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[04:38] <barrydk> Morning everyone
[04:49] <Kilos> morning inetpro barrydk mazal and others
[05:00] <mazal> Môre oom
[05:11] <Kilos> sjoe ek groet hier en tara wat 4nm is en nhaines wat 11nm is
[05:11] <Kilos> hele wereld hier gedek nou
[05:14] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[07:09] <Kilos> hmm... such silence
[07:48] <Squirm> Morning
[07:48] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[07:53] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac
[07:54] <TinuvaMac> good morning Kilos? How goes on this amazing tools day?
[07:54] <Kilos> lol whats the amazing tools day
[07:55] <Kilos> im struggling with repos , 3 different repos give failed to fetch messages
[07:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://www.onedayonly.co.za/medical-marijuana-5g-bankie-of-the-finest.html?utm_source=OneDayOnly&utm_campaign=e911e56662-01_April_20153_31_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_34763bf86d-e911e56662-400194505&mc_cid=e911e56662&mc_eid=41244ed95b
[08:02] <Kilos> We're obviously not selling weed today. This is just our way of drawing your attention to a few charities who desperately need your support.
[08:02] <Kilos> and good morning ThatGraemeGuy
[08:02] <Squirm> Kilos: I think you forget what the date is
[08:03] <Kilos> oh ya
[08:03] <Kilos> is that why the repos are failing on some packages as well
[08:07] <Kilos> i need to restart. wbb
[08:10] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:12] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:12] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:12] <Kilos> always at work, dont you go home anymore?
[08:13] <psyatw> well, I spend about 9-10 hours a day at work
[08:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:13] <psyatw> and then I often go to meetups in the evening
[08:13] <Kilos> what kinda meetups
[08:13] <Kilos> you young okes are naughty
[08:13] <psyatw> technology, languages, entrepreneurship
[08:13] <psyatw> haha
[08:13] <Kilos> aha
[08:14] <Kilos> i believe you but millions wouldnt
[08:14] <psyatw> I think Dublin has a unique landscape for that
[08:14] <psyatw> it's very small but there are so many things going on here
[08:15] <psyatw> I can go to most of these places on foot, usually it only takes me 15-30 minutes to get there
[08:15] <Kilos> nice so you get some exercise as well
[08:15] <psyatw> that's a good thing too indeed
[08:15] <Kilos> lol
[08:15] <psyatw> but I walk to and from work anyway
[08:15] <psyatw> and often I also go home for lunch
[08:16] <Kilos> good keep it up
[08:16] <psyatw> yes, I will
[08:17] <psyatw> did I mention the hackathon I went to on Saturday?
[08:18] <Kilos> no
[08:18] <psyatw> I got to speak to an Ubuntu developer working for Canonical
[08:18] <psyatw> and he showed me the Ubuntu phone
[08:18] <Kilos> cool
[08:18] <psyatw> yeah
[08:18] <Kilos> who is he?
[08:18] <Kilos> and why isnt he here?
[08:18] <psyatw> just the Twitter app crashed on both phones, I don't know if that was bad luck or what
[08:18] <psyatw> Gerry Boland
[08:19] <psyatw> hmm
[08:19] <psyatw> he's from Ireland
[08:19] <Kilos> i dont care
[08:19] <psyatw> so I guess he is in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-ie
[08:19] <Kilos> you also there now but you here
[08:19] <psyatw> let me see if I can catch him online
[08:19] <Kilos> oh ok
[08:21] <psyatw> I don't see him or I don' t recognise him
[08:21] <psyatw> don't*
[08:21] <Kilos> lol np
[08:31] <Kilos> hi lin
[08:35] <TinuvaMac> 09:54 Kilos: lol whats the amazing tools day <--- news sites are all annoying
[08:36] <Kilos> lol
[09:01] <lin> see www.gentoo.org for an example
[09:01] <lin> lol
[09:13] <Kilos> i struggle enough on normal days
[09:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://com.google/
[09:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> also http://maps.google.com/ and click pacman view
[09:16] <Kilos> where is pacman view
[09:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> bottom left
[09:18] <Kilos> there arent enough roads in this area it says hehe
[09:18] <Kilos> i never liked pacman
[09:18] <Kilos> too clever for me
[12:24] <Squirm> Lol
[12:24] <Squirm> ThatGraemeGuy: yeah - It's cool
[12:24] <Squirm> Maybe have been playing last night :p
[12:25] <Squirm> Around my house
[15:24] <Kilos> hi magellanic
[15:24] <magellanic> hey
[15:31] <Kilos> Maaz seen cantide
[15:31] <Maaz> Kilos: cantide was last seen 2 months, 28 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes and 49 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-01-03 16:25:21 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-01-03 17:15:44 SAST
[15:33] <Kilos> found him https://www.facebook.com/karl.wortmann
[15:33] <Kilos> now he cant get away
[16:10] <Squirm> 'lo
[16:16] <Kilos> hi Squirm i restart
[16:16] <Squirm> restart what?
[16:16] <Squirm> Oh
[16:16] <Squirm> ok?
[17:23] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:39] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[17:39] <Kilos> fixit
[17:50] <Kilos> today was a bad da in za. no one even had coffee
[17:50] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[17:50] * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:50] <Kilos> hoi
[17:52] <Kilos> i got a one year old problem that for some reason i never asked for help before
[17:52] <Kilos> kubuntu problem
[17:54] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:54] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[17:54] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:17] <magellanic> installed windows 8 today, after years.
[18:17] <inetpro> magellanic: and?
[18:17] <inetpro> good evening
[18:17] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos
[18:17] <inetpro> and pong as well
[18:18] <Kilos> lol
[18:18] <Kilos> inetpro tell me what to do to make songs play properly here please
[18:19] <inetpro> vlc
[18:19] <Kilos> they all choppy on vlc amerok mplayer and some more
[18:19] <magellanic> amazing, switching all home PCs. you can see why linux can't compete as a desktop
[18:19] <inetpro> magellanic: lekker grapjas
[18:20] <magellanic> heya inetpro. grapjas?
[18:20] <inetpro> magellanic: you don't know the word grapjas?
[18:21] <Kilos> thats like roger federercompeting with rafael nadal
[18:22] <magellanic> inetpro: nope
[18:22] <magellanic> Kilos: it is?
[18:22] <Kilos> grapjas=joker
[18:22] <inetpro> ai! Kilosm where does he come from?
[18:22] <magellanic> hehe okay, I tried.
[18:22] <Kilos> compare apples with apples
[18:22] <magellanic> april 1 didn't work, windows is still crap
[18:23] <Kilos> win 8 isnt too bad if you add the start button and panel
[18:23] <inetpro> oh shucks!
[18:23] <magellanic> :p
[18:24] * inetpro forgot the date
[18:24] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <Kilos> my music being choppy isnt a joke
[18:24] <Kilos> dunno why i let it ride so long
[18:24] <inetpro> was supposed to sleep all day
[18:25] <Kilos> you did
[18:25] <inetpro> some of the jokes are just annoying
[18:26] <Kilos> fix my kde man im tired of playing songs on windows
[18:26] * inetpro prefers to stay below the radar on a day like today
[18:27] <magellanic> what do you mean choppy?
[18:27] <Kilos> bits missing
[18:27] <Kilos> like stuttering
[18:27] <inetpro> Kilos: I don't have such problems
[18:27] <Kilos> ya inetpro but why do i?
[18:28] <magellanic> tried different players?
[18:28] <magellanic> just to sese
[18:28] <inetpro> murphy lives with you in the same house
[18:28] <Kilos> lol
[18:28] <Kilos> mplayer amerok vlc
[18:29] <magellanic> what sound card and driver?
[18:29] <Kilos> and dragon player
[18:29] <Kilos> onboard sound
[18:30] <magellanic> lspci and paste it on pastebin
[18:31] <Kilos> http://bin.snyman.info/md989
[18:33] <magellanic> you have 2?
[18:33] <Kilos> 2 what?
[18:34] <magellanic> sound cards
[18:34] <Kilos> oh do i
[18:34] <magellanic> lspci -vv and paste
[18:34] <Kilos> thats lekker, where is the other one
[18:35] <Kilos> http://bin.snyman.info/4p8gz
[18:37] <Kilos> oh maybe other sound is in the graphics card
[18:38] <Kilos> hdmi thing
[18:42] <magellanic> what hdmi thing
[18:46] <Kilos> the 210 graphics card has a hdmi socket in it as well
[18:47] <Kilos> i think its hdmi
[18:47] <magellanic> seems like that then, comes up as nvidia "cardexpert" device
[18:47] <Kilos> i dont understand high definition sound
[18:48] <magellanic> have you tried playing with alsa mixer settings, sometimes that does it
[18:48] <Kilos> i cant use that, it uses a funny cable
[18:48] <Kilos> ya i tried alsa player too
[18:49] <Kilos> oh settings no i havent looked in there
[18:49] <magellanic> try alsamixer on the terminal
[18:49] <magellanic> q to quit
[18:49] <magellanic> pick the right card
[18:51] <Kilos> it only shows one
[18:52] <magellanic> which one
[18:52] <Kilos> Card: HDA Intel PCH
[18:52] <magellanic> f6 to select a card
[18:52] <Kilos> Chip: Realtek ALC662 rev3
[18:53] <magellanic> adjust volume, if it works, should be the right one
[18:53] <Kilos> it was on default i moved it to 0 because 1 is nvidia
[18:54] <magellanic> esc to quit sorry, not q
[18:56] <Kilos> turned master volume down but sound still distorts
[19:02] <Kilos> maybe i must remover the nvidia card and use everything from onboard and see
[19:02] <magellanic> might be worth a try
[19:02] <Kilos> maybe they are clashing
[19:03] <magellanic> they seem to be using the same driver
[19:03] <Kilos> i cant remember if unity also had sound probs here, can try that as well
[19:04] <magellanic> grep intel /etc/modprobe.conf/*
[19:04] <magellanic> curious
[19:04] <magellanic> grep intel /etc/modprobe.d/*
[19:04] <Kilos> grep: /etc/modprobe.conf/*: No such file or directory
[19:04] <magellanic> rather
[19:05] <Kilos> http://bin.snyman.info/r3mz4
[19:06] <magellanic> okay, nothing interesting
[19:08] <magellanic> try this, https://askubuntu.com/questions/138266/distorted-and-choppy-audio
[19:08] <magellanic> first answer there
[19:08] <Kilos> ok
[19:17] <Kilos> i remember somewhere in the past having to disable auto mute as well, but no idea when
[19:18] <Kilos> will only see what happened after restart. but not now
[19:18] <magellanic> see second answer on that post
[19:18] <Kilos> ty magellanic
[19:18] <magellanic> second answer is about auto mute
[19:19] <Kilos> ive done both so well see tomorrow
[19:19] <magellanic> cool
[19:19] <Kilos> if it doesnt work ill try removing graphics card
[19:20] <magellanic> then you might get graphics issues :p
[19:20] <Kilos> very frustrating, i must go play taras songs on windows
[19:20] <Kilos> lol
[19:21] <magellanic> I told you, win8 hey, it's the future
[19:21] <magellanic> :p
[19:21] <Kilos> lol
[19:21] <Kilos> not for me ty
[19:21] <Kilos> im just playing with it so i can help kids
[19:32] <Kilos> inetpro what sound card do you use?
[19:32] <Kilos> maybe i must save for a graphics card without the hdmi sound built in
[19:36] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
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2015-04-01-#kubuntu-devel
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[04:25] <valorie> I don't have permissions necessary to do this ^^^
[04:27] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226
[04:27] <darthanubis> I can confirm that removing kubuntu-notification-helper solves the issue for now
[04:27] <darthanubis> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67778-Kubuntu-15-04-Beta-2-unusable-after-a-short-period-of-time/page2
[04:35] <valorie> darthanubis: is this a new update?
[04:35] <valorie> I've not seen a problem
[04:36] <darthanubis> at least from yesterday
[04:36] <valorie> baloo_file is the only thing that acts up occasionally for me
[04:37] <darthanubis> do you have the notification helper installed and have you recently rebooted since the yesterday updates?
[04:39] <valorie> $ apt-cache policy kubuntu-notification-helper
[04:39] <valorie> kubuntu-notification-helper:
[04:39] <valorie> Installed: 15.04ubuntu3
[04:39] <valorie> Candidate: 15.04ubuntu3
[04:40] <valorie> I did not restart today, but I did yesterday
[04:40] <valorie> when did that drop?
[04:41] <valorie> since muon-updater started working again, I'll just been clicking that when I see it
[04:41] <darthanubis> not sure, I'm guess yesterday from teh bug report and forum posts
[04:42] <valorie> I'll try restarting a bit later
[04:42] <valorie> busy now
[04:42] <valorie> oh, the bug is confirmed already
[04:42] <valorie> I can still tick the "hurts me too" button if I notice the problem
[05:03] <frecel> is anyone awake
[05:03] <frecel> I'm having some critical issues with kwin in 15.04
[05:13] <valorie> but you didn't say *what* issues
[05:15] * tazz hugs valorie
[05:16] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}}}}s to tazz
[07:04] <sitter> Riddell: I seem to be missing the 5.2.2 tag in muon repo apparently
[07:04] <sitter> just a fyi
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:31] <Riddell> sitter: mm I noticed that yesterday, there is one there but I'm not sure it's where it should be
[07:31] <Riddell> hola lordievader
[07:32] <lordievader> Hey Riddell, how are you doing?
[07:33] <valorie> nice job with shadeslayer yesterday, Riddell
[07:36] <Riddell> valorie: oh thanks, did we do ok?
[07:36] <Riddell> lordievader: dreich day in barcelona but I'm still happy :)
[07:36] <sitter> File muon_5.2.2-1-0ubuntu3.debian.tar.xz already exists in Primary Archive for Ubuntu, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors.
[07:36] <sitter> * Add upstream_branch.diff for upstream Plasma/5.2 branch
[07:36] <sitter> -- Jonathan Riddell <[email protected]> Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:07:44 +0200
[07:36] <sitter> Riddell: >.<
[07:36] <sitter> sync with git and shit
[07:37] <Riddell> sitter: oh you mean tag in packaging?
[07:37] <sitter> no, I mean upstream repo has no tag in the Plasma/5.2 branch
[07:37] <Riddell> sitter: I fixed kubuntu-notifications-helper to work yesterday and it seems now people are complaining that it's working a bit too hard
[07:37] <sitter> and your packaging stuff is not in the repo
[07:37] <sitter> so now I replicated the work
[07:37] <Riddell> gotcha
[07:45] <sitter> Riddell: what happened to knh?
[07:45] <yofel> lp 1434226 happened
[07:46] <sitter> wtf
[07:46] <sitter> that function
[07:47] <sitter> Riddell: your knh changes are also not in git
[07:48] <sitter> url = kde:scratch/sitter/kubuntu-notification-helper
[07:51] <yofel> sitter: that is certainly not the right repository... and as knh has no VCS set in debian/control, it's not in git anywhere
[07:53] <sitter> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fsitter%2Fkubuntu-notification-helper.git
[07:53] <yofel> I meant that your scratch repos are like the last place I would look at if I would search for a knh repo...
[07:54] <sitter> be that as it may, that's where it lives :P
[07:54] <sitter> someone could playgroundify them
[07:54] <yofel> then at least add Vcs-Git pointing to that -.-
[07:54] <sitter> then we'd also be able to draw translations from kde
[07:54] <sitter> yofel: well now I can't because the repo is not up-to-date :P
[07:55] <Riddell> I tested kcm-whoopsie for translations and wondered why they didn't work, turns out lp translations are just not very good, we should get that moved to playground too
[07:55] <yofel> sitter: as I said, without a Vcs setting, that's really your fault ^^
[07:56] <sitter> Riddell: they don't work because they haven't been imported until this week or last
[07:56] <sitter> I think I sent a mail about that
[07:56] <sitter> yofel: yes
[07:57] <Riddell> sitter: right you did, now they "work" just the translations are out of date but maybe lp translators will catch up
[07:58] <sitter> well they are out of date because they only were available for translation for like 1 week and probably pitti didn't even upload a translation import from lp->archive in that time frame anyway ;)
[07:58] <sitter> (assuming they actually are available for translation at all now, which I haven't checked)
[07:59] <Riddell> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/kde-config-whoopsie/+pots/kcm-whoopsie/es/+translate has "Copyright 2013-2014 Harald Sitter"
[07:59] <sitter> groovy then
[07:59] <sitter> perhaps we should shoot a mail to the translation list
[08:00] <Riddell> please do :)
[08:00] <sitter> mh
[08:00] <sitter> Riddell: spanish occurs to me a bit badly maintained anyway
[08:00] <sitter> those strings aren't new
[08:00] <sitter> in fact, I am not sure there were any new main strings at all... only metadata stuff could have changed
[08:01] <sitter> so yeah, playgroundification would be a reasonable thing :P
[08:04] <sitter> that knh patch needs test backing
[08:04] <sitter> in fact, the recursy function should have had one to begin with
[08:12] <Riddell> sitter: I'll e-mail [email protected]
[08:12] <sitter> ok
[08:13] <kbroulik> is there a way to turn a kubuntu weekly ci installation into a regular beta 2 install? eg. removing some repositories or so?
[08:14] <sitter> sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable-weekly && sudo apt-add-repository -r ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable-weekly && sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[08:22] <kbroulik> sitter: <3
[08:25] <Riddell> waa spotify linux client doesn't work any more, missing the version of libgcrypt it wants :(
[08:25] <sitter> third party software deployment on linux - much awesome
[08:26] <Riddell> ximion will sort that out with Limba
[08:32] <soee> good morning
[08:49] <xennex81> another question, the same question, once more: will any amount of goodness from the visuals of plasma4 (oxygen, air ...) make it through in plasma5, or at least in 15.04?
[08:49] <xennex81> i am intending to have my 15.04 look a bit still like my 14.10, I guess that is the issue.
[08:50] <xennex81> I was asking in #ubuntu+1:
[08:50] <xennex81> "plasma 4. Has these themes. Oxygen. But most importantly Air, I guess. It looks pretty fancy with high contrast. At least when compared to Plasma 5 breeze light theme."
[08:51] <xennex81> "it has nice icons. It was often said that 15.04 woudl ship plasma5 "by default" but I hear say that plasma5 is going to be the only option."
[08:51] <Riddell> xennex81: sure you can install oxygen on plasma 5
[08:51] <xennex81> that's [sic] --> would.. Okay
[08:51] <Riddell> at least icons and qt widget theme, dunno about plasma theme
[08:51] <Riddell> hi soee, your bug with muon should be fixed in the upload yesterday
[08:52] <xennex81> right, currently I am using the base default of Kubuntu 14.10 with something changed to Oxygen (basically the window decorations theme or something, I mean the overall theme).
[08:52] <xennex81> Oxygen itself in this install doesn't seem to ship with the required stuff for changing anything else (everying is set to "File..." as if I can only load a file with the required theme options or the files)
[08:53] <xennex81> "although I feel that having an option to select the older looks is a great asset to any distribution and certainly to this one."
[08:54] <xennex81> but if what you say is true that would be great, is that hard?
[08:54] <soee> Riddell: confirmed, thank you
[08:55] <xennex81> "it would just be great if any of the old would seep through in the new."
[08:55] <xennex81> "and I don't really know how to explain myself but it's really simple. The question is really whether these icons and themes are present or could be present or will be made present in 15.04, by any chance whatsoever?" <--- this is what I had asked, just for reference
[08:55] <soee> nice one http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/04/enhancing-user-experience-through-the-compositor/
[08:55] <xennex81> i mean is it just a matter of selecting a package from the repo?
[08:56] <xennex81> sounds cool, but more about this
[08:57] <xennex81> what is the "plasma theme"?
[09:00] <xennex81> there is "style" for Applications, for Colours, Icons, and there is also Workspace Appearance -> Desktop Theme
[09:00] <xennex81> i think you mean the latter right, @Riddell
[09:02] <Riddell> Desktop Theme will be plasma theme yes
[09:02] <Riddell> user support is usually better in #kubuntu BTW
[09:04] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/107/parsed_console/job/vivid_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/107/parsed_console/log_content.html#WARNING1
[09:08] <Riddell> sitter: what am I to look at ?
[09:08] <sitter> Riddell: warnings about missing qml dependencies ;)
[09:10] <Riddell> kwin-addons has missing dependencies... and plasma-widget-kimpanel has missing dependencies... ?
[09:10] <Riddell> how is that done?
[09:11] <Riddell> and when will we get dh_qml to just add them magically like dh_shlibs? :)
[09:11] <sitter> that's post-build stuff unfortunately
[09:11] <sitter> otherwise you'd have to have qml deps as build-deps
[09:11] <sitter> which seems a bit meh considering they are runtime
[09:12] <Riddell> shrug, there are worse things in the world
[09:12] <Riddell> "KCI-I :: QtQuick.Controls[1.0] not found." so you wrote some magic to do that?
[09:13] <sitter> anyway, what happens is: it installs each of the debs generated by the source, lists their content, parses all *.qml files to extract their imports, then tries to lookup the actual module according to the lookup rules, it purges the package and autoremoves the deps again and moves on to the next package
[09:14] <sitter> i.e. basic principle: if installing the package does not also install the module, the module must be missing
[09:16] <Riddell> seems sensible
[09:18] <soee> someone can take a lok @ #kubuntu and the problem user has - QT apps starts very slow (~ 1 minute), there is a output form konsole when starting Dolphin
[09:25] <Riddell> nvidia-prima is to "hybrid graphics (Intel+NVIDIA)" what the heck is Intel+NVIDIA?
[09:27] <yofel> two gpus?
[09:27] <soee> :D
[09:27] <Riddell> but but.. why?
[09:27] <Riddell> and why mix manufacturers?
[09:27] <sitter> nobody knows why
[09:28] <soee> well intel need less power etc. so yo can use it for exaple when you dont need any fancy gpu speed i think
[09:28] <Riddell> d_ed: does sddm have ways to do this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-April/009405.html
[09:29] <Riddell> display-setup-script=/sbin/prime-offload display-stopped-script=/sbin/prime-switch
[09:29] <sitter> Riddell: intel makes cheapo weak onboard graphics,nvidia makes expensive heavy duty graphics. since intel would need less powa the two get combined depending on what is needed
[09:29] <soee> when you do some graphic processing, gaming etc. you need more powerfull gpu = nvidia
[09:30] <soee> but it works like this i think: even when you are using nvidia, it rendres all but it anyway goes through intel to be displayd on screen ;)
[09:31] <sitter> well, the graphics would have to go over some bus, who it belongs to doesn't matter
[09:32] <sitter> it's not like the nvidia gpu would process it and then intel would process it again, data would simply run over the (idle anyway) intel bus
[09:32] <sitter> anywho
[09:32] <sitter> it's all very silly IMO
[09:34] <soee> well there is one plus, when using nvidai + propriety drivers, it almost impossible to get screen not tearing, with intel all works just smooth :)
[09:34] <soee> this is most visible with some dynamic scenes like in the movies or when playing some games
[09:35] <sitter> clearly the solution there is to fix the driver rather than have two gpus :P
[09:37] <soee> true :)
[09:37] <soee> but in 14.10 i had teh nvidia-prime working pretty nice
[09:38] <soee> but sine im on vivid i use only inel as nvidia-prime wont work here atm :)
[09:41] <soee> @ #kubutnu [11:40] <avtolik> hey guys, do you know why kwalletmanager5 is missing from the kubuntu plasma 5 repo?
[09:41] <soee> *kubuntu
[10:00] <soee> https://plus.google.com/+L%C3%AAPh%C6%B0%C6%A1ng2210/posts/NaAjYW75VXb
[10:01] <sitter> soee: there is no kwalletmanager5
[10:02] <soee> sitter: and what he needs to get wifi passwords saved ?
[10:03] <sitter> kwallet5
[10:06] <Riddell> yay bug 1426132 fixed
[10:07] * sitter falls over
[10:07] <sitter> Riddell: are you going to push your knh upload to git plz
[10:08] <Riddell> yep, just need to reboot after the upgrade test
[10:10] <soee> Riddell: did you checked the merge request from ahoneybun @ kubuntu docs in help center ?
[10:13] <Riddell> soee: URL?
[10:14] <soee> Riddell: i think this one [23:20] <ahoneybun> Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/vivid/+merge/254841
[10:15] <yofel> Riddell: protip: commit your change to git and generate the upload package from that. That way you don't forget to commit
[10:15] <Riddell> thanks soee
[10:15] <Riddell> yofel: what did I fail with that on?
[10:15] <yofel> knh? ^^
[10:16] <Riddell> oh well as you say there's nothing to indicate it even had a git repository :)
[10:16] <yofel> oh right, nvm me ^^
[10:29] <soee> why notifications should suggest kscreensaver
[10:33] <Riddell> to install extra ones, but we don't have kscreensaver any more
[10:33] <Riddell> cos really there's only so many flying toasters you can have before you get bored
[10:34] <soee> :)
[10:47] <Riddell> hmm muchos breakage in kubuntu-notification-helper
[10:55] <sitter> badly written software
[10:57] <Riddell> nonsense, just needs some toucing up
[10:59] <sitter> it is
[10:59] <sitter> just like kubuntu-debug-installer
[10:59] <sitter> crap made when we were younger
[11:03] <Riddell> hmm, do we actually have a release upgrade notification in 15.04?
[11:03] <Riddell> muon installer does it but does muon-notifier?
[11:35] <sitter> that hook class in knh gives me a headache
[11:36] <sitter> yofel: which hook file is causing the recursion?
[11:37] <Riddell> good question, that code wouldn't be run if there isn't a hook file
[11:38] <Riddell> yofel, tsdgeos: what do you have in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d ?
[11:40] <ahoneybun> thanks soee
[11:41] <yofel> hm, I removed knh on this system, but here I have "apt-file-update dropbox-start-required ecryptfs-record-passphrase steam-install-notify"
[11:41] <yofel> checking my notebook will have to wait until evening
[11:43] <Riddell> yofel: that's fine any one will cause the bug
[11:45] <ahoneybun> Riddell: for some reason the main branch of ubiquity was missing the last icon as well, I think I fixed the first icon, I ran "bzr add" on all the files. The first icon was missing cuz I edited the welcome.html for the screenshot.
[11:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ok, what do I need to get the fix?
[11:47] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I made the changes to my branch so just a merge for the ubiquity
[11:48] <ahoneybun> I'll grab the url
[11:48] <ahoneybun> https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/vivid/+merge/254846
[11:48] <Riddell> lovely
[11:48] <ahoneybun> let me fix the last few permissions
[11:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you also did lots of updates to -docs package? is that to make it all kf5 style docs?
[11:49] <ahoneybun> Riddell: to fix that one bug mostly (with yofel help a lot)
[11:49] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you have an nvidia? do you know what driver manager installs when you tell it to install stuff?
[11:50] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I do, not sure what it does everytime I installer the nonfree driver I can never get the system to work right
[11:51] <ahoneybun> \o/ no more permission changes!
[11:51] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ubiquity is all good to merge (no extra work for you this time)
[11:54] <sitter> woah
[11:54] <sitter> that hook parser seems a bit weird
[11:54] <Riddell> sitter: how so?
[11:54] <ahoneybun> for the docs https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/vivid/+merge/254841
[11:54] <Riddell> it's badly named
[11:55] <sitter> I can rip out half the entires in my test case and the hook class still thinks the file is valid
[11:55] <sitter> I can remove the entire name and it will still be happy >.<
[11:55] <Riddell> sitter: I don't think it's formally specified, Command=true is probably a valid file
[11:56] <sitter> Riddell: the code talks of a spec. but even if it there wasn't one no name and no description pretty much consistute an invalid hook as far as the gui is concerned
[11:57] <sitter> anyway, I have some highlevel test, I just need an example file that causes recursion
[11:58] <Riddell> sitter: don't they all?
[11:58] <Riddell> it calls getField()
[11:58] <Riddell> which calls getField()
[11:58] <Riddell> but it never actually parses the field
[12:00] * ahoneybun would love to get notifications from IRC
[12:00] <yofel> hm, felix supposedly fixed that in quassel
[12:01] <ahoneybun> in konversation
[12:01] <Riddell> doesn't it?
[12:01] <Riddell> nudge sho if not I guess
[12:01] <sitter> Riddell: nope, I don't understand the code
[12:03] <sitter> ah you are probably right
[12:03] <sitter> how did that ever work Oo
[12:04] <sitter> it's actually possible that it broke in the port
[12:04] <sitter> the lookup flatness looks like something I would write
[12:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: there will be one more update to kubuntu-docs before release as I update the installer slides on the wiki
[12:05] <sitter> ah yes
[12:05] <sitter> I did change the lookup
[12:05] <sitter> it didn't get more loopy though, it was inifinite recursion previously as well Oo
[12:07] <Riddell> ahoneybun: we also need to work out how the translations for the slideshow works
[12:09] <ahoneybun> Riddell: of course, not sure how it worked before but I'll help
[12:09] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu_95.dsc up!
[12:09] <ahoneybun> :) I got a email \o/
[12:10] <ahoneybun> I'll grab a daily build tomorrow and test
[12:11] <ahoneybun> work bbl
[12:13] <sitter> oh oh oh
[12:13] <sitter> Riddell: I broke it!
[12:13] <sitter> there used to be readFile(str, locale) and readFile(str), I folded the two and now it's infinity read
[12:14] <Riddell> ¡que facha!
[12:15] <Riddell> sitter: shall we put this into playground?
[12:16] <sitter> everything must go into playground
[12:16] <Riddell> turns out I'm not the only one who doesn't sync archive with git, harald also made an upload that isn't in git :)
[12:16] <Riddell> pushed now
[12:17] <Riddell> "Launchpad currently recommends translating kubuntu-notification-helper in Ubuntu Utopic. " hmm we're a month from release why is launchpad still recomending utopic
[12:18] <sitter> Riddell: what did I not push?
[12:19] <Riddell> sitter: + * Set library translation domain for kded and kcm
[12:19] <sitter> fancy
[12:21] <Riddell> "Launchpad currently recommends translating kde-config-whoopsie in Ubuntu Vivid. " good fixed, whatever would ubuntu do without us?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <Riddell> hmm even the export tar from launchpad is weird for translations
[12:25] <tsdgeos> Riddell: tsdgeos_work@xps:~$ ls /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/
[12:25] <tsdgeos> apt-file-update data-downloads-failed steam-install-notify
[12:25] <tsdgeos> Riddell: i uninstalled the kubuntu package yesterday if it matters
[12:26] <Riddell> tsdgeos: could you pastebin this? for asdf in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/*; do echo ${asdf}; cat ${asdf}; done
[12:27] <tsdgeos> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10717990/
[12:31] <Riddell> thanks
[12:31] <Riddell> sitter: some example files for you ↑
[12:32] <sitter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718018/
[12:32] <sitter> qq
[12:34] <sitter> the function is even more wrong
[12:34] <sitter> jebus
[12:35] <sitter> I feel like I am rewriting code I wrote in libkubuntu already
[12:35] * sitter looks
[12:35] <Riddell> sitter: I pushed an updated launchpad translations export
[12:36] <sitter> Riddell: a what now?
[12:36] <Riddell> sitter: what don't you understand?
[12:37] <Riddell> sitter: pushed fix for bug 1439139
[12:38] <Riddell> sitter: does moving to playground need a kde sysadmin request?
[12:39] <Riddell> https://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Application_Lifecycle seems to still talk about svn
[12:45] <Riddell> sitter: https://sysadmin.kde.org/tickets/index.php?page=tickets&act=doadd submitted to request a new playground repository then I think we get instructions to move it and then we talk to i18n people I guess
[12:55] <Riddell> "kf5.kded: kded module "notificationhelper" still uses .desktop files ("kded/notificationhelper.desktop"). Please port it to JSON metadata." moans kded
[12:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: could you help me understand the nvivia issue a bit more?
[13:02] <xennex81> soee: Isn't that intel+nvidia the same as what AMD was doing with ATI, ie. if you have a defined set of matching chips (onboard AMD and discrete ATI) that then it *could* work together but the marginal gains were so low that you really wondered if it was anything more than a nice idea?
[13:03] <xennex81> soee: or is it these days about power consumption?
[13:03] <xennex81> soee: being less I mean.
[13:03] <soee> xennex81: tbh, i never had any ati card so im not usre this gpu segment
[13:04] <soee> what i read bout this, it was power save etc. topic. We have nvidia prime only on laptops
[13:05] <soee> because here you want to save power etc. if you dont need some nice gpu power most of teh time
[13:05] <soee> it would be pointless to have nvidia active and used then
[13:05] <soee> thats teh point i thin
[13:05] <soee> *think
[13:05] <xennex81> soee: I'd have to look into this current technology but it seems odd to me that there'd actually be a form of GPU-offloading, but I guess it's there if the driver supports both.... (that nVidia Primus).
[13:06] <xennex81> yeah I guess, looking into it a bit, interesting :)
[13:07] <xennex81> anyway, I just wanted to mention that it seems odd @sitter
[13:07] <sitter> ?
[13:08] <sitter> Riddell: while you are pestering sysadmins file tickets for all the kubuntu repos I have in my scratch :P
[13:09] <xennex81> about the nvidia primus thing, something is bugging me about it ;-). Never mind though.
[13:10] <soee_> uhm, i was discronnected :<
[13:11] <soee_> xennex81: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/optimus_technology_uk.html
[13:11] <soee_> you can watch teh short video there lso
[13:12] <soee_> on windows it works a bit less coplicad then linux. hre we have to switch gpu and relogin
[13:13] <soee_> on windows you can rightclick on app and pick from contet menu the gpu that should be used
[13:14] <soee_> i think some latops offer option in bios to turn off one o the cards
[13:14] <soee_> sadly not on my dell
[13:16] <soee_> Riddell: i think this explains all http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/optimus_technology/optimus_technology_popup_uk.html :D
[13:16] <xennex81> i see that there is a "bumblebee" project that you have to install for it
[13:16] <soee_> you want just nvidia-prime package tbh
[13:17] <soee_> it adds cli or gui (in nvidia-settings) to switch gpus
[13:17] <soee_> but dont try now as it does not ork with sddm :-)
[13:18] <xennex81> ok, nevermind.
[13:21] <xennex81> Riddell: I had asked my themes in Vivid question on #kubuntu at first, I was redirected to #ubuntu+1, then to #kubuntu-devel, sorry if I am burdening you here.
[13:40] <Riddell> sitter: is there a way to list those?
[13:43] <sitter> Riddell: quickgit.kde.org?
[13:44] <soee_> i think this is teh most annoying bug atm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1407152
[13:44] <soee_> is it easy to fix ?
[13:47] <Riddell> soee_: it's an upstream bug i think, d_ed is that what we were talking about earlier? ↑
[13:47] <d_ed> probably, but I don't think it's SDDM
[13:47] <d_ed> given ksmserver is still running
[13:54] <Riddell> kcm-driver-manager -> kde-config-driver-manager
[13:54] <Riddell> kcm-whoopsie -> kde-config-whoopsie
[13:54] <Riddell> sitter: how about those renames for debian's policy on naming kcms?
[13:55] <sitter> fine by me
[13:55] <sitter> got annoyed by it the other day as well ^^
[13:55] <sitter> I think the source packages might even be named differently than their repos
[13:55] <sitter> its very weird all
[14:03] <Riddell> tickets opened for kde-config-whoopsie git repository
[14:03] <Riddell> kubuntu-debug-installer git archive
[14:03] <Riddell> Move kubuntu-notificaitons-helper to playground
[14:03] <Riddell> kde-config-driver-manager git archive
[14:09] <sitter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718498/
[14:09] <sitter> just once I'd like to fix a bug without having to write a ton of code to fix another bug that appeared in the course of fixing the initial bug
[14:12] <Riddell> but then how would you show your elite coding powers?
[14:13] <sitter> good point :O
[14:14] <Riddell> "hookevent" is an annoying name, the user visible name is "upgrade information" neither is very descriptive and neither match the other
[14:14] <Riddell> although "other notifications" is not very descriptive :)
[14:15] <Riddell> but too late for string changes
[14:17] <Riddell> mparillo: upgrade from 14.10 is working, might be worth a tweet or two :)
[14:18] * Riddell removes warning from kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-vivid-beta-2
[14:20] <xennex81> seriously? Entire upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 is working?
[14:21] <soee_> ;]
[14:22] <Riddell> well it's not completely broken, more testing appreciated
[14:22] <sitter> such a waste of time
[14:22] <sitter> Riddell: [ubuntu/vivid-proposed] kubuntu-notification-helper 15.04ubuntu4 (Waiting for approval)
[14:24] <Riddell> sitter: rejected, you forgot my fix which I just pushed
[14:25] <sitter> mh
[14:25] <BluesKaj> glad you guys mentioned the upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 isn't quite ready yet , was about to do-release-upgrade -d
[14:25] <sitter> Riddell: you didn't add a changelog entry
[14:25] <sitter> oh oh
[14:25] <sitter> Riddell: the update translation commit seems wrong
[14:25] <sitter> they should come from some language-pack
[14:26] <Riddell> from where?
[14:26] <sitter> language-pack-en: /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_AU/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_notificationhelper.mo
[14:26] <Riddell> you want them extracted from 100 language-pack packages?
[14:26] <Riddell> why?
[14:27] <xennex81> i might do it in a harddrive install (no VM) prior to see if I can install it from scratch (15.04 that is, if I'm not going to install Ubuntu GNOME for a change first -- I have a bit of a rambunctiousness planned) but it will be a few weeks.
[14:27] <sitter> Riddell: noooo, they are to be used from there
[14:27] <sitter> Riddell: the import you did is being stripped during build
[14:27] <sitter> the solution here is to patch ki18n to search locale-langpack
[14:27] <sitter> Riddell: new upload incoming
[14:28] <Riddell> sitter: hang on, we still have bug 1439147
[14:28] <Riddell> although I guess with the kded issue we should get a fix in pronto
[14:28] <sitter> yah
[14:28] <Riddell> sitter: needs X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes removed and then it won't get stripped?
[14:29] <sitter> then the languages don't get updated
[14:29] <sitter> the solution is to patch ki18n :P
[14:29] <Riddell> ki18n does read from locale-langpack
[14:30] <sitter> then the import is useless anyway
[14:30] <Riddell> we don't want the languages to get updated don't we? we want to move translations upstream
[14:30] <sitter> as I was saying... the translations are in the langpack
[14:30] <sitter> Riddell: not for 15.04 we don't
[14:30] <Riddell> right but we want to move to them being upstream
[14:30] <Riddell> well 15.04 can do whatever it wants :)
[14:30] <sitter> yes we want them from upstream, but right now we have no upstream translations :P
[14:31] <sitter> all we have is lunchpad tranlsations and the workflow for those is to land via langpacks
[14:31] <sitter> so that's what we have to stick with until we have upstream translations
[14:32] <Riddell> yep
[14:32] <Riddell> anyway good stuff sitter
[14:38] <Riddell> why do none of the files in this thing have comments?!
[14:40] <Riddell> restricted install notifier is only shown when an app calls it like k3b?
[14:40] <Riddell> when did flash-install get shown?
[14:43] <KDDA> anyone got a fix for kded5 going buck crazy and consuming RAM and swap, bring system to its knees?
[14:44] <Riddell> KDDA: yep, sitter is being wonderful and has coded one especially for you
[14:44] <Riddell> keep an eye on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/15.04ubuntu4
[14:45] <tsdgeos> KDDA: or just uninstall the kubuntu-notification-helper for now :D
[14:46] * Riddell wonders why the download icon in breeze is a floppy disk
[14:49] <KDDA> what is causing it?!?
[14:51] <Riddell> it's a coding error, recursive call
[14:53] <tsdgeos> KDDA: or just uninstall the kubuntu-notification-helper for now :D
[14:53] <tsdgeos> he
[14:53] <tsdgeos> too slow
[14:53] <tsdgeos> need to be faster next time
[14:55] <KDDA> This is crazy
[14:55] <tsdgeos> KDDA: or just uninstall the kubuntu-notification-helper for now :D
[14:55] <KDDA> I did
[14:55] <tsdgeos> then you should not be having issues anymore
[14:55] <tsdgeos> are you?
[14:56] <KDDA> it happens all of a sudden
[14:56] <tsdgeos> should be fixed by removing kubuntu-notification-helper
[14:56] <tsdgeos> it fixed it for me
[14:56] <tsdgeos> truth be told i also removed all apport-
[14:56] <tsdgeos> packages
[14:57] <sitter> too much fancy tech that could be failing
[14:57] * sitter out
[14:57] <KDDA> what is the actual problem?
[14:57] <sitter> someone drop me an email should there still be a grave issue with the notification-helper in the ubuntu4 upload
[14:58] <KDDA> is it nvidia
[15:00] <Riddell> no it's notification-helper
[15:02] <darthanubis> with kubuntu-notification-helper being fixed, temporarily removed for me as well, I wake up to baloo-file using 100% cpu. Will that get resolved as well. I'm sure it will, but is there something I can do to avoid it for now?
[15:05] <Riddell> no changes for baloo forthcoming
[15:05] <Riddell> get a backtrace and send it to bugs.kde.org
[15:05] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, disable desktop search in system settings and see if that helps
[15:06] <darthanubis> ok
[15:11] <BluesKaj> thing is baloo only indexes for a very short time afaik, correct me if I'm mistaken
[15:12] <BluesKaj> since I don't use it
[15:21] <mgraesslin> valorie: please tell people to use forum.kde.org instead of pinging me :-)
[15:21] <soee> oh oh i have new notification after upating ntification helper ;) something bout incomplete language pack
[15:42] <Riddell> soee: yep, all part of this kubuntu-notification-helper fixage
[15:42] <Riddell> soee: does it work sensibly?
[15:43] <soee> Riddell: define sensibly :)
[15:46] <Riddell> soee: does it give you a nice dialog that explains what it's doing then install language packs?
[15:46] <mparillo> Riddell: I will be happy to tweet the update (and remove the not recommended from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu), but (1) Is a 32-bit test necessary first, and (2) maybe I should slow down on the Kubuntu Wire. I saw this complaint: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=281#disqus_thread
[15:47] <Riddell> mparillo: yeah I guess stuff on kubuntu.org isn't needed on wire
[15:48] <Riddell> mparillo: while you're at it you could include that kded going mad is fixed with kubuntu-notification-helper 15.04ubuntu4 in the archive shortly
[15:58] <soee> Riddell: not exactly
[16:02] <soee> Riddell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETeERqwZ6M&feature=youtu.be
[16:04] <soee> Riddell: when we talk about UX, if we click on notification it shows 2 windows, there should be one imo (for admin password) and than if authorisation is fine, second that installes the missing packages.
[16:04] <soee> Riddell: alo if we cancel the first window, error is thrown that authorization failed
[16:04] <soee> Riddell: here simply all windows should be closed and notification icon placed back on panel systray
[16:05] <soee> also it wuld be good ot know what packages are going to be installed
[16:06] <soee> here we dont have any information about it
[16:06] <soee> that is for UX
[16:09] <Riddell> 2 dialogs seems like a small issue
[16:10] <Riddell> if you cancel it then authorisatoin did fail :)
[16:10] <Riddell> but yeah I take your point it's not ideal
[16:10] <Riddell> report bugs on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper if you like
[16:11] <Riddell> and list of packages would be nice (if hidden probably)
[16:12] <soee> ill create bug report
[16:15] <Riddell> soee: and does it otherwise work?
[16:16] <soee> Riddell: how can i make the notification to show up again in systray after i caceled the installation like on video ?
[16:20] <Riddell> soee: killall kded5; kded5
[16:22] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun soee jose KDDA I've just migrated to using a child theme, please take a look over the site and report to me any issues
[16:22] <jose> link?
[16:22] <ovidiu-florin> here's the link again: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[16:23] <KDDA> does the shortcode for the copyright statetment work?
[16:26] <jose> thanks ovidiu-florin
[16:26] <soee> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1439303
[16:27] <soee> oh crap helper not center =:)
[16:28] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: haven't tried that yet
[16:28] <ovidiu-florin> I wanted to get the original functionality there first
[16:29] <soee> Riddell: restarting kded5 doesnt brig the icon back
[16:29] <ovidiu-florin> jose: do you want to k=take care of this: https://trello.com/c/Knf0m4ED/25-edit-http-www-kubuntu-org-news-kubuntu-14-10-to-note-that-ppa-next-is-no-longer-supported
[16:29] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: To Do :: Edit http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.10 to note that ppa-next is no longer supported. ++ ]
[16:29] <ovidiu-florin> on both sites
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> jose: on both sites
[16:30] <jose> I'd do it but I'm currently swamped with work I've missed in the last couple days
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> ok then
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: is ^^ urgent?
[16:30] <soee> ovidiu-florin: give some space between content and footer
[16:31] <soee> ok now the icon is back
[16:34] <soee> ovidiu-florin: here http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/ i would make all icons in the same shape - circles
[16:34] <soee> laso i woudl give them some space horizontally and to avoid linebreak, make them a bit smaller
[16:36] <soee> Riddell: the missing language files seems to be installed but we dont have any confirmation message like: all missing language files have been installed. you shoould now bla bla . . :)
[16:36] <Riddell> soee: if they're all installed it's all good, no need to disturb the user
[16:36] <soee> Riddell: well i didn;t have any error so i assume they were installed when progress bar reach 100% :)
[16:41] <ovidiu-florin> soee jose Riddell KDDA ahoneybun do we need the top navigation bar? with the logo? We already have those links in the featured area and in the footer.
[16:41] <jose> I'd say yes. however, it shows in two rows and not just one
[16:41] <jose> the donate button makes a second row
[16:42] <ovidiu-florin> I know, that's because I increased the font size
[16:43] <soee> yes it shoudl stay
[16:43] <soee> imo
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin> it's kind of useless IMO
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin> but I think like an engineer, not a designer
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin> anyone else?
[16:48] <ovidiu-florin> otherwise I'd remove one of the menu items
[16:50] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: the point is they're common across the whole site
[16:51] <ovidiu-florin> so's the footer
[16:51] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[16:51] <ovidiu-florin> but I see your point
[16:51] <soee> Riddell: how many user will look @ footer ? :)
[16:51] <Riddell> without the top bar how do you go from http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/ to the front page? or to download? the footer is too fiddly
[16:51] <Riddell> soee: not many I guess
[16:51] <soee> this part is often completely ignored b users
[16:52] <Riddell> right
[16:55] <ovidiu-florin> soee Riddell jose ahoneybun KDDA how does the nav bar look now: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[16:56] <jose> yes
[16:56] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: nice
[16:56] <jose> woot woot
[16:56] <soee> ovidiu-florin: on -md screens it breaks to lines
[16:56] <soee> make font bigger, and padding for menu items smaller
[16:58] <soee> menu items shoudl have text-lign: center so on small screens they would work better
[16:58] <soee> *text-align
[16:59] <ovidiu-florin> soee: the font is 16px, I believe it's big enough
[16:59] <soee> yes i had to refresh
[17:00] <soee> also remove top margin from #logo not it makes a 3 pixels white space under main navigation when item is hovered
[17:00] <soee> or you can give #logo element fixed height
[17:01] <soee> and make image responsive
[17:03] <soee> this theme uses so old bootrstap styles :/
[17:05] <ovidiu-florin> soee: fixed height?
[17:05] <ovidiu-florin> why?
[17:05] <ovidiu-florin> instead of max-height?
[17:07] <soee> if container have height defined, then on child element - img - you can use height: 100% so th logo become responisve
[17:07] <soee> now teh logo height decides about whole top panel height
[17:08] <soee> i would make the kubuntu logo bit smaller
[17:09] <soee> but such change would require to giving top panel ow height so it will render properly on small screens ;)
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I've set #logo to 70px height
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin> but I still see it as 62PX
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin> WTFudge?
[17:12] <mparillo> I removed the "Please note upgrade from Kubuntu Plasma5 14.10 is not supported and is unlikely to work, these users will need to reinstall" and the "Not Recommended" from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu
[17:13] <Riddell> mparillo: ooh hang on that's wrong
[17:13] <Riddell> upgrade from Kubuntu Plasma5 14.10 is not supported
[17:14] <Riddell> mparillo: the change is Please note that this approach is affected by (Bug:1426132) baloo is not replaced by baloo-kf5 on dist upgrade '''breaking release upgrade
[17:14] <Riddell> which I already removed from the wiki page
[17:14] <ovidiu-florin> soee: fixed....
[17:14] <soee> ovidiu-florin: because you have also max-height set
[17:16] <soee> ovidiu-florin: it needs also some chnages when panel is affixed mode
[17:18] <mparillo> Reverted, Sorry.
[17:19] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I don't understand
[17:23] <soee> ovidiu-florin: if you scroll page down, the top panel gets fixed positon (at the top) but with current #logo height under image and menu items there is a lot of space as this elements in fixed top panel position have smaller size
[17:28] <ovidiu-florin> soee: fixed
[17:31] <soee> ovidiu-florin: you but hgive there #logo liek 8px top maring when panel is fixed
[17:31] <soee> *yup
[17:32] <Riddell> ahoneybun, yofel: kubuntu-docs uploaded thanks for that. I can't merge with lp:kubuntu-docs because I don't have access, I've e-mailed the admin of the group. what's the git repo on kde git about?
[17:38] <ovidiu-florin> soee: like this it looks more centered, at least on my screen
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[17:44] <Riddell> hmm, shall I move kdelibs4 docs from /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML to /usr/share/doc/HTML ? this'll make docs work but will make us incompatible with debian and have to recompile everything
[17:47] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: why do that?
[17:48] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: "make docs work" currently khelpcentre can't read docs from kdelibs4 apps
[17:48] <ovidiu-florin> is the location hardcoded?
[17:48] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yes in the kdelibs configure command
[17:49] <ovidiu-florin> how does Debian solve this problem?
[17:49] <Riddell> they haven't changed to plasma 5 yet
[17:49] <ovidiu-florin> ah
[17:49] <ovidiu-florin> can't we have a symlink?
[17:52] <Riddell> I don't think so, it's already a directory so if you make a symlink there it'll go "no there's a directory here"
[17:53] <ovidiu-florin> soee: feedback please: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/
[17:53] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I can't make them round, unless I use some mask and hide part of the images
[17:54] <ovidiu-florin> I'd rather give them a nice border and a background, and make them all square
[17:55] <soee> ovidiu-florin: click here on teh submenu Applications or Pro Aps https://www.apple.com/pl/mac/
[17:56] <soee> they are presented pretty nice
[17:57] <ovidiu-florin> soee: you'd have to talk to VDG for that
[17:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: got any thoughts on docs question? ↑
[17:57] <ovidiu-florin> tell them to be consistent
[18:05] <Riddell> hi Erthe
[18:06] <Erthe> Installed 15.04 Beta 2 yesterday; after being logged into the desktop for about 10 - 30 minutes, the system becomes unresponsive, how would I log this bug?
[18:06] <Erthe> Riddell: Hey Riddell
[18:08] <Erthe> Running on Nvidia GeForce 750 GTX, 64bit install, sddm and Plasma.
[18:08] <Erthe> But I don't know the cause.
[18:09] <Riddell> Erthe: install kubuntu-notification-helper 15.04ubuntu4
[18:09] <soee> Erthe: the dailt iso, or beta uso ?
[18:09] <soee> *daily
[18:09] <Riddell> log out and in and see if it continures
[18:09] <Riddell> continues
[18:09] <Erthe> soee: The Beta 2 ISO
[18:10] <Erthe> Riddell: OK, back shortly in Konversation then.
[18:10] <soee> Erthe: ok follow Riddells instruction
[18:13] <Erthe> Riddell: What was that package again?
[18:16] <soee> Erthe: kubuntu-notification-helper
[18:16] <Erthe> It's installed.
[18:16] <soee> https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-notification-helper
[18:16] <soee> Erthe: what version ?
[18:16] <Erthe> It says newest.
[18:16] <soee> apt-cache policy kubuntu-notification-helpe
[18:17] <soee> apt-cache policy kubuntu-notification-helper
[18:17] <Erthe> 15.04ubuntu3
[18:18] <soee> Erthe: install *4
[18:18] <soee> download the biuld your system uses https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/15.04ubuntu4
[18:20] <Erthe> OK, let's see how that went, bbiab.
[18:27] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what parts of GCC do we ship? https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=tree
[18:28] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: um dunno, I assume it's all in the archive
[18:28] <ovidiu-florin> it isn't
[18:28] <ovidiu-florin> I need this for debugging: https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=tree;f=libstdc%2B%2B-v3/python;h=db2b5361387fa7378b07c88848c1a433072d32c4;hb=HEAD
[18:29] <ovidiu-florin> how can I track gcc packaging and see if there's a possibility to add that
[18:29] <ovidiu-florin> in the package, or a sepparate one
[18:29] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^ ???
[18:29] <Riddell> doko is the gcc dude in ubuntu
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> on which channel should I ask?
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: ping
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: how did you call that function to set the year automatically?
[18:31] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: #ubuntu-devel I guess
[18:35] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Sort of pong?
[18:36] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: any luck on the link thing?
[18:36] <ovidiu-florin> links*
[18:36] <lordievader> ?
[18:36] <ovidiu-florin> wait
[18:36] <ovidiu-florin> what was the last status?
[18:36] <ovidiu-florin> I forgot
[18:36] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: pong
[18:36] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Err you asked me to rerun the scripts, I did, gave you a new list.
[18:37] <ovidiu-florin> yes, I remember now
[18:37] <ovidiu-florin> I need to filter that with my script
[18:37] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: do we need that "Discover Kubuntu" if we have a big button for the feature tour?
[18:38] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: please avoid using the WP editor on pages
[18:38] <ovidiu-florin> it breaks the JavaScript in the posts
[18:38] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: at leas untill I make it not break them anymore
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: use just the text editor (HTML) for now
[18:39] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: so don't make edits till your done, ok
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> :))
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> no
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> just don't use the visual editor
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: where do you see "Discover Kubuntu"?
[18:40] <ahoneybun> bottom
[18:40] <ovidiu-florin> ah
[18:40] <ovidiu-florin> found it
[18:40] <ovidiu-florin> removing now
[18:40] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: what did you ping me about?
[18:40] <ovidiu-florin> soee: are you still around//
[18:40] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[18:40] <ovidiu-florin> the editor
[18:40] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[18:40] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ^
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> because the feature page internal links broke when you removed the Kontact KMail duplication
[18:41] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I saw that, sorry
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> it's fixed now
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> so, no problem
[18:42] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I'm going to update the screenshots for the installation part of the Docs but I'll keep it in my branch till we get control of the ubuntu-docs core
[18:45] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: I cleaned up the filtered file
[18:45] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: https://trello.com/c/36EqHCdB/20-make-sure-all-urls-from-the-old-site-are-available-valid-on-the-new-site
[18:45] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: To Do :: make sure all urls from the old site are available/valid on the new site ++ OT, OB, JAR]
[18:51] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: they should be all fixed, can you run a check?
[18:51] <ahoneybun> back
[18:51] <ahoneybun> darn wifi
[18:52] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do you need me to install the nvidia drivers and report back?
[18:54] <Riddell> ahoneybun: would be useful, I'm not sure what happens
[18:54] <Riddell> ahoneybun: if you could install it from driver manager in system settings and let me know what's in /var/log/apt/term.log
[18:54] <xennex81> i am wanting to start translating something for you guys but I'm starting with the userbase wiki I guess
[18:54] <Riddell> xennex81: thanks :)
[18:54] <ahoneybun> Riddell: let me jump into irc on another machine and report back
[18:55] <xennex81> if there is anything you want me to do in terms of translating software or whatever, drop me a line, but it'd be dutch only, so I guess you need me somewhere in some system right?
[18:55] <xennex81> i mean obviously it is just one language mostly
[18:55] <Riddell> xennex81: also https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2015-April/006838.html but I guess you need to be in the launchpad group for that
[18:55] <ahoneybun> Riddell: should I use the recommanded driver?
[18:56] <ahoneybun> I have 4 listed
[18:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: dunno what are the options?
[18:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: screenshot?
[18:57] <ahoneybun> let me grab one Riddell
[18:58] <ahoneybun_> http://imgur.com/oTE37Z5
[18:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: ah i guess that'll install nvidia-346-updates or similar
[18:59] <ahoneybun> /var/log/apt/term.log
[19:00] <xennex81> Riddell: these three are already translated in Dutch, just not Frysian etc. but that is not very important
[19:00] <ahoneybun_> keeping that for later so I know where to look
[19:00] <xennex81> but thanks
[19:00] <ahoneybun> Riddell: so recommanded then?
[19:01] <Riddell> ahoneybun: pardon?
[19:01] <xennex81> I have added myself to the userbase translator list, now just waiting to be added to the list
[19:01] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what's that drink? http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/kubuntu-9-04-beta-available/
[19:01] <xennex81> ie. get an account :p
[19:01] <ahoneybun> Riddell: use the recommanded driver then?
[19:01] <ahoneybun> *recommended
[19:01] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: scotland's national drink :) http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/bundles/irnbruwebsiteframework/scenes/drinks/a/[email protected]?4
[19:02] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I guess so
[19:02] <ahoneybun> ok
[19:03] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: and that was an official Kubuntu limited edition?
[19:03] <ovidiu-florin> :P
[19:03] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: limited to the one I stuck the sticker onto :)
[19:04] <ovidiu-florin> nice
[19:04] <Riddell> ahoneybun: good luck I need to wander off
[19:04] * Riddell wanders off
[19:04] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/9.04-release/desktop_thumb.png can you give me this file?
[19:05] * ahoneybun takes a shower brb
[19:05] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: actually everything in that folder
[19:11] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: and the same for the 9.10 folder
[19:18] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: do you have the pictures for those or should I mark this as done?
[19:25] <ahoneybun> Riddell: other then the desktop taking a bit longer to load up and a error message about "-session" I'm back up. Log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10720152/
[19:31] <ahoneybun> did anyone notice that the installer uses oxygen icons for the check marks and x's
[21:18] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Err, could you remind me in the weekend if I haven't done it by then?
[21:18] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[21:23] <KDDA> is kubuntu-notification-helper fixed now?
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA I've added the shortcode for the copyright
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> thank you for the sugestion
[21:30] <KDDA> it working now within child theme?
[21:30] <soee> what the wih the chanell topic ?
[21:31] <KDDA> when is Vivid offical launch?
[21:31] <soee> yofel: ?
[21:31] <yofel> !schedule
[21:31] <yofel> hm..
[21:31] <soee> no no yofel: [23:30] <soee> what the wih the chanell topic ?
[21:31] <yofel> KDDA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[21:32] <yofel> soee: oh...
[21:32] <yofel> we got spammed I guess? -.-
[21:32] <soee> i dunno :)
[21:35] <soee> i fixed it :D
[21:35] <yofel> beat my by ~2s :P
[21:36] <soee> -.-
[21:36] <yofel> ^^
[21:36] <yofel> thanks
[21:36] <soee> lukly konversation has history
[21:47] <soee> notification for required system reboot works fine :)
[22:01] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: not urgent, but another user in #kubuntu said s/he had found that and used the advice to upgrade to 14.10 + ppa-next
[22:01] <valorie> since we no longer support that, we should remove or change that advice in all our pages - my search didn't turn that one up
[22:27] <ovidiu-florin> can't we turn that into an alias to the valid ppa?
[22:27] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: ^
[22:27] <ovidiu-florin> or make a blog post with an oficial statement that we no longer support that ppa
[22:27] <valorie> well, if people want plasma5, they should install the vivid beta
[22:28] <valorie> really, the point is to stop giving out bad advice
[22:28] <ovidiu-florin> ok, I'll look into it tomorrow, if someone doesn't fix it by then
[22:28] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed
[22:28] <valorie> it could even be lined-through with html
[22:28] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[22:28] <valorie> niters
[22:29] * valorie would fix, but has no permissions to the website
[22:29] <valorie> sweet dreams, ovidiu-florin
[22:33] <ahoneybun> valorie: still there?
[22:47] <valorie> yes, I'm here
[22:47] <valorie> finally finished reading up -- looks like I missed a busy day
[22:55] <ahoneybun> darn you konversion
[22:55] <ahoneybun> valorie: I could make a blog post
[23:09] <valorie> about?
[23:09] <valorie> sorry, the power blinked for a min and I was off checking that all the electronics were ok
[23:19] <mparillo> valorie: I can change some things on the website. Where did you find the advice to upgrade to 14.10 + ppa-next
[23:22] <ahoneybun> valorie: about ppa-next
[23:22] <valorie> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.10
[23:22] <valorie> I put the link in the trello card I wrote about it
[23:23] <valorie> so if you fix it, please move the trello card
[23:31] <ahoneybun> I have no access to the old site sorry
[23:31] <ahoneybun> just the new one
[23:32] <mparillo> I hacked it pretty hard.
[23:33] <mparillo> I have to run.
[23:33] <mparillo> I will try to update the Trello Card tonight.
[23:35] <valorie> thanks mparillo
[23:38] <mparillo> Trello does not like rekonq. Switching to Chrome. How do I claim the task.
[23:38] <valorie> just move from ToDo to Doing
[23:39] <mparillo> I cannot. Do I need permissions?
[23:39] <valorie> hmmm
[23:40] <valorie> are you a member of the board?
[23:41] <valorie> should be a little link up on the top-right
[23:41] <valorie> I don't see you, mparillo
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[06:31] <Raiser> Boa Noite galera, Preciso da ajudar de vcs. alguem ON
[06:31] <Raiser> Boa Noite galera, Preciso da ajudar de vcs. alguem ON?
[08:23] <barna> Raiser,
[08:23] <barna> Raiser, não pergunte se alguem pode te ajudar, fale o seu problema
[08:24] <barna> Raiser, tipo eu manjo de um tanto de coisas, e não entendo nada de outras, não sei se posso te ajudar, já que não sei qual o seu problema.
[11:00] <ftptiago> Bom dia?
[11:28] <junim> criar server apache? o que e ?
[11:29] <junim> criar server apache ajuda
[11:31] <junim> ajuda alguem como criar servidor apache
[12:28] * LOrdN1x bom dia all
[14:12] <ad0nai> Pessoal, qual o software que posso utilizar para gravar vídeo aulas?
[14:16] <dbcbr> bom dia a todos
[14:16] <dbcbr> preciso de um help
[14:16] <dbcbr> o meu ubuntu deu erro na hora de atualizar e agora nao inicia mais
[14:17] <dbcbr> o que eu posso fazer?
[14:18] <dbcbr> desde ja agradeço a ajuda!!
[14:19] <Elfon> dbcbr: que tipo de erro?
[14:19] <dbcbr> apos o boot ele entra na tela de login
[14:19] <Elfon> qua a mensagem?
[14:19] <dbcbr> apos o login o ubuntu trava e volta pra tela de login
[14:19] <dbcbr> nao aparece mensagem
[14:20] <dbcbr> so pergunta se vc quer reportar
[14:20] <Elfon> dbcbr: bom..api é melhor perguntar à alguém mais avançado...pq não uso ubuntu
[14:20] <Elfon> hggdh: pode ajudar?
[14:46] <Raiser> barna bom dia.
[14:47] <Raiser> galera eu preciso sabe de alguem que usa linux a muito tempo, quero sair do XP para o Linux, só qe já ouvi muita gente falando que linux é dificil de mexe e nao tem programas para ele,só que ja vi outros videos falando de linux e estou afim de testa ele
[14:48] <Maninho> bom amigo
[14:48] <Elfon> Raiser: eu não uso windows há uns 2 anos
[14:48] <Maninho> linux nao é complicado, tem tudo que precisa no linux, so tenha em mente q sao programas parecidos
[14:48] <Elfon> Raiser: existem diferentes linuxs (distros) pra todos os gostos....hj em dia é possível fazer tudo :)
[14:49] <Elfon> só coisas muito específicas que são masi trabalhosas
[14:51] <Raiser> Hum... estou muito afim de trocar para liux, já ouvi fala muito bem dele pelo motivo de nao precisa de anti virus e outras coisas. vejo td dia videos de pessoas mostrado como eh o linux que achei muito massa. só que nao sei, tenho medo de coloca e não sabe para onde ir.
[14:54] <Elfon> Raiser: vc pode fazer duas coisas...instalar em dualboot com o windows ou em uma máquina virtual com o vistualbox
[14:54] <Elfon> quando se sentir à vontade vc instala no hd todo
[14:55] <Raiser> hummmm
[14:56] <dbcbr> ou simplesmente testa-lo antes de instalar de verdade
[14:56] <dbcbr> o linux tem essa opção
[14:56] <Elfon> Raiser: pra um usuário comum eu sou fã do OpenSuse, OpenMandriva/Mageia/Rosa e Ubuntu
[14:56] <Elfon> aí vc escolhe
[14:57] <dbcbr> nesse exato momento estou tendo que reinstalar o meu
[14:57] <dbcbr> hehe
[14:57] <dbcbr> acabei de baixar no proprio site do ubuntu a versao mais nova
[14:57] <dbcbr> e estou reinstalando por cima
[14:57] <Elfon> Raiser: pq aos poucos vc vai ter que vê algumas coisas particulares, mas simples, java pra acessar sites de bancos, etc
[14:57] <dbcbr> tomara que de certo
[14:58] <dbcbr> nao se preocupe tem muitos foruns onde vc pode pedir ajuda
[14:58] <dbcbr> como esse aqui
[14:59] <dbcbr> alem de encontrar muitas dicas de como resolver os problemas que aparecem
[14:59] <Elfon> Raiser: vc ode instalar todos numa máquina virtual e executar pelo windows
[14:59] <dbcbr> eu uso tanto windows como linux
[14:59] <Elfon> quando tiver À vontade vc escolhe :)
[14:59] <Raiser> Hummm
[14:59] <Raiser> ouvi fala desse Ubuntu mesmo
[15:00] <dbcbr> a versao mais nova e a 14.10
[15:01] <dbcbr> tem 1.1gb de tamanho
[15:01] <dbcbr> e rapidinho de baixar
[15:01] <dbcbr> vale a pena dar uma olhada nela
[15:02] <Raiser> mais para isso eu ia ter que formada aqui e coloca ela
[15:03] <dbcbr> nao precisa
[15:03] <dbcbr> vc pode so testala
[15:03] <dbcbr> ele nao vai apagar nada
[15:03] <dbcbr> ou pode pedir que ele faça dual boot
[15:04] <dbcbr> coloca o linux junto com o windows
[15:04] <dbcbr> assim vc escolhe qual usar quando iniciar
[15:06] <Raiser> eu posso baixar ele, e instala junto com o windows? que não dar em nada
[15:07] <dbcbr> sim
[15:09] <Raiser> e como eu faço isso de dualboot, não entendo muito bem dessas coisas
[15:09] <dbcbr> o ubuntu faz por vc
[15:09] <Elfon> Raiser: se não estiver familiarizado com o particionamento (é simples) é sempre recomendável um back up antes :)
[15:09] <dbcbr> e so vc mandar
[15:09] <dbcbr> na hora da instalação
[15:10] <Raiser> qual é o site do Ubuntu
[15:10] <dbcbr> isso tambem :)
[15:11] <dbcbr> ubuntu.org.br
[15:13] <Raiser> vou baixar ele aqui.
[15:14] <dbcbr> blz
[15:14] <dbcbr> galera to indo nessa
[15:14] <dbcbr> abraços
[16:23] <ad0nai> Pessoal, qual o software que posso utilizar para gravar vídeo aulas?
[16:44] <Elfon> Boa tarde!
[16:44] <Elfon> Alguem utiliza o smplayer?
[16:44] <Elfon> esse player é maluco com acentos....hahahha
[17:18] <lieber> ad0nai, se for para screencast eu aconselho o Simple Screen Recorder
[17:29] <Elfon> PEssoal, como faz pra executar o gerenciador de arquivos do ubuntu como root?
[17:29] <Elfon> qual o nome dele?
[17:29] <lieber> Elfon, sudo thunar .
[17:29] <Elfon> ok
[17:29] <lieber> Elfon, ops
[17:29] <lieber> O seu provavelmente é nautilus
[17:30] <lieber> confundi as bolas
[17:30] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[17:30] <lieber> boa
[17:31] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[17:31] <lieber> +-
[17:31] <lieber> mirqui, eai
[17:31] <mirqui> xii velho , quer falar?
[17:31] <mirqui> aqui vamos todos bem graças a deus
[17:32] <lieber> ah trabalho vei
[17:32] <lieber> mt mt trabalho e poquinho vida
[17:32] <mirqui> bom , vê por outro lado
[17:32] <mirqui> muito trabalho = dindin no final do mês
[17:33] <mirqui> pior se não tivesse nada e tivesse que correr de atraz
[17:33] <lieber> éa claro
[17:33] <lieber> e eu gosto do que faço, sei nem do que to reclamando
[17:34] <lieber> o problema é qd é 14 horas por dia
[17:34] <mirqui> a situação está preta ai fora cara , estão chamando urubu de meu louro , conhece esta máxima
[17:35] <mirqui> não é 24x12 ?
[17:35] <mirqui> 7x12 quero dizer
[17:36] <lieber> naada quem dera
[17:37] <mirqui> bom, tens celular e pc
[17:37] <mirqui> virtualmente tú está com os teus
[17:38] <lieber> ah ta de boa
[17:38] <mirqui> vai dizer que final de semana não rola um futebol?
[17:38] <lieber> nada nem jogo isso
[17:38] <lieber> mas eu tiro um domingo sim po pra ficar de boa
[17:38] <mirqui> ou o que seja para te distrair , algo deves fazer
[17:38] <lieber> faço sim
[17:39] <mirqui> então ahaha não é tão ruim assim :)
[17:39] <lieber> não, não tem nada ruim, só estou +-
[17:40] <lieber> o que pra mim é um problema, tá +- pq eu dormi tarde trabalhando e acordei cedo pro mesmo
[17:40] <mirqui> ahaha meia boca quer dizer , crise dos 30 anos é isso velho ahaha?
[17:40] <lieber> e tá assim o mês td
[17:41] <lieber> tenho 21 anos
[17:41] <mirqui> picos de trabalho
[17:41] <mirqui> uma hora afloxa
[17:41] <mirqui> aflocha
[17:41] <lieber> sim acho q é até por isso q trabalho
[17:41] <lieber> pois sei q dias melhores virão
[17:41] <mirqui> como te disse melhor ter trabalho do que não ter
[17:42] <lieber> sem duvidas
[17:42] <lieber> o ócio é insuportável
[17:42] <mirqui> toma uns ginseng com pó de guarana , resolve ahaha
[17:42] <mirqui> ócio é bom
[17:43] <mirqui> rotina é ruim
[17:43] <mirqui> tú está chateado por causa da rotina
[17:43] <lieber> sim claro
[17:43] <lieber> mas estou com isso pq sei que ficar parado é pior
[17:44] <lieber> não digo ocio exporadico
[17:44] <mirqui> vc quer subir na carreira , é isso?
[17:44] <mirqui> sua firma não de dá essa chance?
[17:44] <lieber> sou autonomo
[17:45] <mirqui> ?? então
[17:47] <lieber> mirqui, ué eu fazer meus horários não quer dizer que eu tenho tempo
[17:47] <lieber> eu ainda tenho prazos
[17:48] <mirqui> sim , eu sei
[17:49] <mirqui> vc quer dizer que seus horários são ao extremo que não da para vc experimentar crescer na profissão , é isso?
[17:50] <lieber> claro que dá
[17:51] <lieber> pra crescer no profissão só trabalhano ue
[17:51] <mirqui> hahah cada um sabe de sí , mas pesa os prós e os contras e vê se não está no lucro
[17:54] <lieber> mirqui heheh vai passar, só hoje que eu não tô mt legal.. tanto que tou dando uma relaxada aq no irc
[17:55] <lieber> essa noite eu dou uma regulada no sono, vou deitar mais cedo um pouco, e amanhã já estou melhor pro batente
[17:55] <mirqui> ahaha toca um raul ai :)
[17:55] <mirqui> se você quizer tomar banho de chapeu , ou discutir calos gardel , então ... :)
[17:56] <lieber> um esporte tb faz falta
[17:56] <lieber> alivia pra caralho a tensão
[17:57] <mirqui> baa velho , fiz exer cício ontem e hoje sai de manhã , estou todo doido
[17:57] <mirqui> exercício
[17:57] <lieber> todo doido?
[17:57] <lieber> rs
[17:57] <lieber> po eu fico mo bem qd dou um rolezim
[17:58] <mirqui> doido não é dôido ahaha olha o português :)
[17:58] <lieber> assim, o corpo fica doendo, mas relaxado
[17:59] <mirqui> haaa dar umrolê tbm é bom , mas o motivo não foi tão nobre ( mulher ) , foi exer cício mesmo
[17:59] <lieber> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[17:59] <lieber> rolê é mulher por aí?
[17:59] <lieber> daonde és
[17:59] <mirqui> sul , e tú?
[18:00] <lieber> sul de minas
[18:00] <mirqui> haaa quase gaúcho , baaa , ahaha
[18:00] <lieber> hehehe eu dou um rolezim de skate
[18:01] <lieber> é meu exercício
[18:01] <mirqui> numca andei de skate , já andei de patins
[18:01] <mirqui> na minha época era mais patins
[18:04] <lieber> patins é manero tb
[18:05] <mirqui> de esporte só não fiz os radicais , mas é mais fácil dizer o que eu não fiz
[18:06] <lieber> mirqui, não sei mt bem o conceito de radical
[18:06] <lieber> skate é?
[18:07] <mirqui> rapel , tirolela , kaidsurf
[18:07] <mirqui> skete é soft :)
[18:07] <mirqui> skate
[18:07] <lieber> o q q é soft?
[18:07] <lieber> e futebol é o q?
[18:07] <mirqui> maneiro
[18:08] <mirqui> tranquilo
[18:08] <mirqui> agora estou mais parado que agua de poço ahaha
[18:09] <mirqui> qualquer dia te conto minha estória :)
[18:09] <lieber> hehehe
[18:10] <mirqui> tbm tenho meus cavacos do ofício ahaha
[18:25] <mirqui> outra hora falamos , fui :)
[19:19] <JCCO> Ola boa tarde!
[19:20] <JCCO> alguém mais entendido em ubuntu pode me ajudar???
[19:20] <Elfon> JCCO: qual o problema?
[19:20] <JCCO> eu tinha no meu pc
[19:21] <JCCO> ubuntu e windows... o windows deu pau e fui reisntalá-lo mas não consigo acessar o ubuntu mais
[19:22] <JCCO> tem como restaurar o acesso ao ubunto?
[19:24] <Elfon> JCCO: isso é pq o windows chuta o gerenciador de inicialização
[19:24] <Elfon> olha...vc teria que pesquisar como restaurar o grub
[19:24] <Elfon> eu não sei como se faz isso
[19:24] <Elfon> mas não costuma ser dificil
[19:25] <JCCO> onde acho alguma coisa sobre
[19:28] <Elfon> JCCO: http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/recuperando-o-boot-grub-ubuntu-depois-de-instalar-o-windows/
[19:31] <JCCO> valeu
[19:32] <JCCO> estou pesquisando aqui
[20:17] <JCCO> Elfon - Muito obrigado, agora esta funcionando perfeitamente!
[20:47] <eltonfernandes> olá amigos... gostaria de saber se podem me ajudar. eu possuo um compaq presario cq40-612BR e o wireless nao funciona. podem me linkar com algum driver?
[20:50] <Elfon> caraca....tem alguns que são a jato...perguntam e nem esperam
[20:50] <Elfon> acham que é o antigo msn? hahaha
[20:55] <Guest86194> Pessoal, boa tarde!
[20:56] <Guest86194> Alguém sabe me dizer qual é o último kernel suportado oficialmente pela Canonical para o Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[20:56] <Elfon> Guest86194: tem algum hardware q depende disso?
[20:58] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[20:58] <Guest86194> Tendo problemas com o touchpad
[20:59] <Guest86194> tô usando o kernel 3.13.0-48-generic
[20:59] <Guest86194> Atualizei para o 3.19... touchpad funcionou, mas bugou várias outras coisas.
[20:59] <Elfon> vixi
[20:59] <Guest86194> tentei as versões 3.16 e 3.18 também
[20:59] <Elfon> Guest86194: se não for um pc de produção...vc podia tentar a versão que não é lts
[21:00] <Guest86194> o touchpad funfou... mas o sistema ficou muito instável
[21:00] <Elfon> eu não sei pq não uso ubuntu
[21:00] <andrelm> é de produção Elfon...
[21:01] <Elfon> bom...aí não sei não
[21:01] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[21:06] <andrelm> Usando Lenovo Ultrabook IdeaPad Core i7 Nvidia Gforce 8GB Mem
[21:17] <andrelm> Achei aqui: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14.1-trusty/
[21:17] <andrelm> Instalando agora pra testar
[21:50] <andrelm> Pra ficar caso alguém tenha o mesmo problema: consegui fazer o touchpad funcionar com o Kernel 3.18.1, mas percebi que a temperatura está oscilando muito e sem motivo aparente. Tudo fechado... só o XChat aberto e a temperatura sai de 50º para 75º em segundos... depois volta... depois vai.
[21:56] <astroo-> complicado na teoria
[21:57] <astroo-> ve o que consume muito cpu
[21:57] <eumesmo> Qual a melhor forma de estudar um sistema linux, metodologia, pois tenho todo o conteúdo.
[21:57] <astroo-> e ve se a pasta termica do cpu esta ok que isso nao e normal
[22:34] <hggdh> sobre a pergunta do guest, por volta das 16:55 UTC: *todos* os kernels da 14.04 são suportados
[23:23] <Rudolf> andrelm: use o powertop
[23:23] <Rudolf> andrelm: ele te dá quem tá consumindo recurso
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[08:32] <Kostic> Да вас похвалим, баш вам добра она спајалица. Форум је јузерфрендлијазовнији за 73.6% више него пре. :)
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[04:49] <Kilos> evening nhaines and others on the dark side
[04:50] <Kilos> morning those that see the light already
[04:51] <nhaines> Good evening! :)
[04:51] <Kilos> :-)
[04:52] <Kilos> do we have any ausies here?
[07:11] <Kilos> hi dpm
[07:11] <Kilos> where are you situated ?
[07:14] <dpm> hi Kilos
[07:14] <dpm> in Germany
[07:14] <Kilos> ah cool
[23:53] <Ramobuntu> Hi!
[23:54] <Ramobuntu> Hello everybody! How are you?
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:18] <pitti> Good morning
[05:18] <pitti> Laney: ooh!
[06:06] <didrocks> good morning
[06:10] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, comment ça va ?
[06:10] <didrocks> pitti: ça va, et toi ?
[06:10] <pitti> didrocks: ça va bien, merci !
[06:10] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:11] <seb128> hey didrocks & pitti
[06:11] <didrocks> hey seb128
[06:11] <pitti> didrocks: seems the dbus fix works quite well
[06:11] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[06:11] <pitti> didrocks: do you have time to look at the nfs-utils FTBFS?
[06:11] <didrocks> pitti: dbus fix -> oh nice!
[06:11] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, it's on my list, I have also the empty overrides to fix
[06:12] <didrocks> pitti: and I have a systemd binary without upstream patches ready to get tested under adb
[06:12] <didrocks> adt*
[06:12] <pitti> didrocks: I went through the systemd-stable patches last night; the most likely one might be http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=6e392c9c45
[06:12] <pitti> but I didn't start a bisect yet
[06:13] <didrocks> pitti: I have the 2 journald content btw:
[06:13] <didrocks> success: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10712382/
[06:13] <pitti> didrocks: so for some reason fsck gets started twice?
[06:13] <didrocks> failing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10712359/
[06:13] <didrocks> pitti: no, it's not actually (I misread), it's just the order is different
[06:14] <didrocks> Mar 31 18:20:37 autopkgtest systemd[1]: Starting Show Plymouth Boot Screen...
[06:14] <didrocks> (once fsck is done)
[06:14] <didrocks> in the failing case
[06:14] <didrocks> Mar 31 18:30:52 autopkgtest systemd[1]: Starting Show Plymouth Boot Screen...
[06:14] <didrocks> (during fsck)
[06:14] <didrocks> in the success one
[06:15] <didrocks> it's like with -5ubuntu1 root fsck was blocking everything
[06:17] <didrocks> pitti: I can fix easily the nfs-utils one (I wonder why I didn't get a FTBFS email though, my filters are normally fine)
[06:17] <didrocks> pitti: it's a debdiff reapply on a "clean" after build dpkg-source -x issue
[06:18] <didrocks> pitti: but as I noticed an issue with .override and upstart, I needed to reupload that one (with some others) anyway
[06:35] <didrocks> pitti: nfs-utils builds fine, and adjustements done, pushing now
[06:35] <pitti> didrocks: cheers!
[07:40] <didrocks> pitti: is it possible to not have adt-run using /tmp at home? I'm having no space left as /tmp is tmpfs (first time yesterday, not sure why the size exploded to more than 3G… something smells wrong here)
[07:40] <didrocks> s/home/all/
[07:41] <pitti> didrocks: "at home"? you mean for creating temp files? Setting $TMPDIR ought to work
[07:41] <didrocks> "at all" ^
[07:41] <didrocks> ok :)
[07:41] <pitti> didrocks: but that does smell weird, right; is the overlay so big, or some other file?
[07:41] <didrocks> pitti: well, it wasn't yesterday afternoon…
[07:42] <didrocks> it's installing lightdm and such
[07:42] <didrocks> but I don't think it should explod to 3G…
[07:46] <pitti> didrocks: certainly not
[07:47] <pitti> maybe 1G (some test cases have really heavy dependencies)
[07:49] <pitti> but I never really checked
[07:49] <pitti> I usually have 7G free in /tmp/
[07:51] <didrocks> yeah I only allocated 2G
[07:51] <didrocks> just weird this started yesterday evening…
[07:51] <didrocks> anyway, I'm unblocked for now
[07:52] <didrocks> pitti: so, -5ubuntu1, reverting upstream v219 stable branch patches -> works
[07:52] <pitti> didrocks: out for ~30 mins for some errands
[07:52] <didrocks> pitti: doing a rebuild only with the commit you pointed now
[07:52] <didrocks> see you!
[07:52] * pitti hugs didrocks
[07:52] * didrocks hugs pitti back
[08:04] <Laney> happy don't believe anything you read on the internet day
[08:04] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:04] <didrocks> Laney: happy don't ready the Internet today
[08:06] <Laney> :)
[08:06] <Laney> what's up?
[08:10] <Laney> ogra_: can you help guide the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/lxc-android-config/+bug/1437633 through?
[08:10] <Laney> don't know how RTM works
[08:10] <didrocks> Laney: doing override changes!
[08:11] <didrocks> I need to fix whoopse-preferences still, but finishing some other things on systemd first
[08:11] <didrocks> yourself?
[08:12] <ogra_> Laney, oh, thats for RTM ... i didnt notice ... for vivid lxc-android-config is currently blocked in silo 19
[08:13] <Laney> needs fixing in both
[08:13] <Laney> differently
[08:13] <ogra_> Laney, i'll try to land it in RTM then
[08:13] <Laney> thx
[08:13] <ogra_> vivid needs to wait
[08:13] <Laney> can you actually QA changes to this file without uploading?
[08:14] <ogra_> in a silo ...
[08:15] <Laney> i thought it had to be installed at image time
[08:17] <ogra_> sadly thats not how silos are tested today ...
[08:17] * ogra_ still waits for per-silo images ...
[08:18] <Laney> yes indeed
[08:18] <happyaron> Laney: about bug #1439006, he asked to add Japanese when we are doing that for zh_*, but he sent the email to ubuntu-desktop@ quite late, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-April/004650.html
[08:18] <Laney> that's what I'm saying
[08:18] <Laney> happyaron: I know
[08:18] <happyaron> ok
[08:18] <happyaron> just in case.
[08:18] <ogra_> Laney, will hopefully happen one day ... until thenn QA installs the PPA packages and tests that ...
[08:19] <Laney> I hope they go readonly again after that
[08:19] <Laney> ^o)
[08:43] <didrocks> pitti: this commit isn't the one :(
[08:44] <pitti> didrocks: ok; it just looked like the most plausible one, I didn't run any actual tests with it; sorry
[08:44] <didrocks> no worry
[08:45] <didrocks> I'm afaid a real bisect will be needed then
[08:47] <pitti> Laney: shutdown is working reliably for you now?
[08:47] <pitti> didrocks: you can probably cut out a lot of the commits (man page fixes, string updates, etc.)
[08:48] <Laney> pitti: yes indeed; I just duped the bug
[08:48] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, would have been cool to have the v219 tag in the stable branch though
[08:49] <pitti> didrocks: indeed -- a88a..
[08:49] <didrocks> pitti: thanks!
[08:49] <didrocks> pitti: any special trick you are using to generate the huge diff?
[08:49] <pitti> didrocks: "git diff a88a.."
[08:49] <didrocks> ok, simply that :)
[08:50] <pitti> didrocks: I didn't want to import a gazillion tiny patches, easier to get and maintain like that
[08:50] <didrocks> pitti: yeah
[08:53] <didrocks> pitti: hum, did you really generate it like that? Some upstream patches like the fsck one aren't in your v219-stable.patch
[08:53] <pitti> didrocks: your fsckd patches aren't in v219-stable
[08:53] <didrocks> pitti: ah, sorry, forget about me
[08:53] <didrocks> yeah, wrong branch
[08:53] <pitti> they are also separate in debian/patches
[08:53] <pitti> ah :)
[08:55] <ogra_> seb128, https://plus.google.com/+OliverGrawert/posts/eK5X7voSxRr do we have a bug open for the graph ?
[08:56] <seb128> ogra_, that url is about theming and shows dekko?
[08:56] <ogra_> err
[08:56] <ogra_> sorry
[08:56] <ogra_> wrong paste
[08:56] <seb128> no worry :-)
[08:57] <ogra_> (and thats not dekko, look closer ;) )
[08:57] <seb128> I guess you are going to show me a charge graph with pits?
[08:57] <seb128> oh, right ;-)
[08:57] <ogra_> https://plus.google.com/+OliverGrawert/posts/6k3ZhoHb5mp
[08:57] <ogra_> not pits ... just a gap at the start i always see
[08:58] <ogra_> looks like the first value is not properly initialized
[08:58] <seb128> oh, yeah, not reported I guess, but I saw it as well
[08:58] * ogra_ will report then
[08:58] <seb128> can you open a bug on u-s-s?
[08:58] <seb128> danke
[08:58] <ogra_> yep :)
[08:58] <seb128> I'm going to have a look
[09:25] <Laney> hmm
[09:26] <Laney> network isn't coming up in my lxc container
[09:26] <Laney> ifup eth0 gets it to come up though
[09:52] <Laney> as does systemctl start ifup@eth0
[09:52] <Laney> bleg
[10:00] <Laney> how does this sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i BindsTo work?
[10:00] <Laney> udev I guess
[10:12] <davmor2> seb128: can you try something on vivid desktop, create a file, from nautilus put it into the trash, then from the bin right click and select empty the bin. Does it open a second nautilus window for you?
[10:17] <seb128> davmor2, I can confirm, another variant from bug #1436297
[10:17] <davmor2> seb128: cool I was just checking if it was fixed and I didn't have it yet :)
[11:05] <ogra_> seb128, bug 1439122 (sorry, took a bit)
[11:23] <seb128> ogra_, danke
[12:20] <Trevinho> attente: about "are you able to run gnome-terminal under the mir proving server?": Yes, I am, but I've to use older versions (trusty one) of gnome-terminal as new ones rely on dbus which wasn't working here
[12:21] <attente> Trevinho: ah, ok. do you happen to know what changed?
[12:21] <Trevinho> attente: I think that they're using gApplication now, so the singleton doesn't work
[12:21] <Trevinho> attente: but I've been using the older version happly
[12:21] <Trevinho> attente: I think the problem was a missing dbus session daemon on mir, but hat might be fixable...
[12:22] <Trevinho> I just didn't spend time on that
[12:22] <attente> Trevinho: i thought it was enough to have the DBUS_SESSION_ADDRESS set properly but for some reason it wasn't
[12:22] <Trevinho> seb128: thanks for looking at 1436297, I was off a few days :)
[12:22] <Trevinho> yeah, I had it set, but it's not enough
[12:22] <seb128> Trevinho, yw! there are still some issues, does bamf special case nautilus as well?
[12:23] <Trevinho> seb128: mhmh, I think there's something about the transfer window, but I don't recall if that was removed...
[12:23] * Trevinho checks
[12:23] <Trevinho> seb128: mh, no I don't see that anymore
[12:24] <seb128> Trevinho, in fact the remaining issue might be a nautilus one
[12:24] <seb128> Trevinho, let it to me, I might be you back again later
[12:24] <Trevinho> ok
[13:51] <seb128> didrocks, https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/1775190c-d7ea-11e4-be13-fa163e78b027
[13:51] <seb128> was that supposed to be fixed?
[13:52] <seb128> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/oneconf/hosts.py", line 69, in __init__
[13:52] <seb128> with open('/var/lib/dbus/machine-id') as fp:
[13:52] <seb128> FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/dbus/machine-id'
[13:52] <seb128>
[13:52] <seb128> didrocks, ignore that, the installs are 0 day but the installation media is outdated
[15:29] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, it's fixed ideally
[15:29] <didrocks> seb128: for the other crash, I wonder if I shouldn't just add a workaround
[15:35] <seb128> didrocks, you mean https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/6ecdec0e7e98a62311268646d93e2a11b734390a ?
[15:35] <seb128> the bt is not really useful right? it's just sign of an issue in the other side?
[15:36] <didrocks> seb128: no, more on that one: https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/44254dfe1ed3a5acdec9c4e4172b009e905dcd89
[15:36] <didrocks> seb128: like, maybe we can just have the daemon exit 1
[15:36] <didrocks> like "giving up"
[15:36] <didrocks> or just having an empty package list
[15:37] <didrocks> needs to look to not having too many "dbus client didn't receive answer"
[15:37] <seb128> the corresponding launchpad bug is a duplicate of a closed bug
[15:37] <seb128> it's all a bit confusing
[15:38] <didrocks> seb128: I never grasp successfully errors.ubuntu.com TBH
[15:38] <didrocks> seb128: I guess this happens when the apt database is confused though, can be multiple cases
[15:38] <seb128> k
[15:38] <seb128> but it's a regression from the python3 port from barry?
[15:39] <didrocks> IIRC, I was escaping it in some way before the port, right
[15:42] * didrocks found the systemd commit introducing the regression btw
[15:42] <didrocks> that one! over the 160 :p
[15:42] <seb128> didrocks, well done!
[15:42] <seb128> which commit was it?
[15:42] <didrocks> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/patch/?id=b238b0eaf71449e128480bb5a5875a4b51cafd6f
[15:42] <didrocks> a simple .service file change
[15:42] * seb128 bets on the fsckd plymouth integration!
[15:42] <didrocks> roh
[15:43] * didrocks slaps seb128
[15:43] <didrocks> :)
[15:43] <seb128> sorry, need to start trolling, people are off on friday this week :p
[15:43] <seb128> heh ^^
[15:43] <didrocks> yeah, thanks for thinking about them!
[15:43] <didrocks> the consequence is that the boot order is all changed then
[15:43] <didrocks> plymouth isn't started before fsck finishes
[15:43] <didrocks> and so on
[15:43] <didrocks> (30s boot delay on the adt testbed)
[16:00] <seb128> Laney, soooo, in those "desktop got renamed, let's create compat ones" game, why did we end up adding NoDisplay=true to the new name?$
[16:00] <Laney> to not show two
[16:00] <seb128> why the new one
[16:00] <seb128> and not the old one?
[16:01] <Laney> the new one is the new name
[16:01] <Laney> old one is for compatibility
[16:01] <seb128> right
[16:01] <seb128> but why don't we want to show the new name?
[16:04] <seb128> Laney, the reason I'm asking is that on current vivid, the dash lists nautilus.desktop and not org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop, so if you click on nautilus in the dash or dnd that icon to the launcher it fails to match the running instance which is org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop
[16:04] <seb128> bug #1436297
[16:04] <seb128> Trevinho, also, how does bamf know what .desktop corresponds to an xwindow?
[16:04] <seb128> because nautilus seems special
[16:04] <seb128> the same is not an issue with totem or file-roller which had the same .desktop rename dance
[16:22] <seb128> cyphermox, hey, do you think you could look at/upstream at least https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1418260
[16:23] <seb128> it's a segfault in nm-applet that started with 0.9.10, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/91da1afe1d626059f88ff4a6f225718a2e20ed3d
[16:23] <seb128> it's not specific to us
[16:23] <seb128> https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/reports/352711/
[16:31] <Laney> sorry, was debugging syslog being spammed
[16:31] <Laney> ENOSPC -> remove some files -> 2 minutes later, ENOSPC
[16:31] <Laney> systemd was looping a umount and spamming syslog
[16:32] <Laney> IIRC it's on this one because some environment (panel or xfce maybe) was respecting NoDisplay
[16:32] <Laney> so if people have customised menus they would get broken
[16:34] <Laney> not sure why unity doesn't handle this case
[16:52] <cyphermox> seb128: ok
[16:53] <seb128> cyphermox, thanks
[16:53] <seb128> Laney, well, the issue is that unity respects NoDisplay
[16:54] <seb128> Laney, so it lists nautilus.desktop in the dash and not org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop which is NoDisplay=true
[16:54] <seb128> Laney, or bamf matches nautilus with o.g.N.d
[16:54] <seb128> so if you run nautilus from the dash the launcher gets an extra icon for n.d rather than using the o.g.N.d one
[16:59] <Laney> It's meant to respect NoDisplay for the dash, otherwise this exercise would not work at all
[17:00] <Laney> I just told you why it's on the .desktop file that it is
[17:01] <Trevinho> seb128: there are multiple ways...
[17:01] <Trevinho> seb128: first we use class name
[17:01] <Trevinho> then we can use app-id (as per larsu work)
[17:01] <Trevinho> or we end up using the PID and process name
[17:04] <Laney> how come the org.gnome desktop file was getting involved?
[17:07] <Laney> ah I guess because of MimeType
[17:08] <Laney> might be clever to move this to the other one
[17:08] <Laney> but there's been some other changes to use the new name for nautilus ...
[17:12] * Laney goes away, see you tomorrow
[17:16] <ricotz> hi, looks like the just uploaded language-selector has some syntax issue in /etc/profile.d/cedilla-brazil.sh causing bash to choke
[17:23] <seb128> Laney, I think we don't understand each other
[17:23] <seb128> Laney, unity does respect NoDisplay, which is the issue
[17:23] <seb128> since o.g.N.d has the NoDisplay=true it lists nautilus.desktop
[17:24] <seb128> or the running instance is o.g.N.d
[17:24] <seb128> so it doesn't match
[17:24] <seb128> to work the dash would need to list the new desktop, which means having the NoDisplay is the compat old name
[17:25] <seb128> Laney, Trevinho, that's bug #1439309
[19:13] <Laney> seb128: I'm asking *why* that new one got used
[20:06] <kenvandine> robru, silo 23 has dropped off the spreadsheet and the dashboard shows it as test passed
[20:07] <kenvandine> when i add it back, how do i associate my silo with the line on the spreadsheet?
[20:13] <robru> kenvandine: copy & paste error? you asked me that in -ci-eng already
[20:13] <robru> or this one was first and I missed the highlight, sorry ;-)
[20:14] <kenvandine> robru, this was the first, realized it was wrong channel
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2015-04-01-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:30] <bluesabre> evening folks
[00:30] <Unit193> Howdy.
[00:35] <bluesabre> hey Unit193
[00:35] <bluesabre> how goes?
[00:35] <Unit193> Playing with Launchpad git, a backup script, and music. You?
[00:37] <bluesabre> Just got home from a nice hike
[00:37] <bluesabre> thinking about what do to next
[00:37] <Unit193> Nice.
[01:06] <nerdistmonk> hmmm not much longer and i will get to experience the joy of my first "devel" version leap
[01:06] <nerdistmonk> hopefully its as simple as double checking sources.list and just running a routine update afterwards
[01:11] <nerdistmonk> hmmm 15.10 Wascally Wabbit.....you guys got to use that one haha
[01:22] <nerdistmonk> ^one of the codenames that is on the list for consideration, though im not sure if WB would approve of its use.
[06:20] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Any update on me getting ~xubuntu-dev access?
[09:54] <ochosi> folks, just so you know, i'm travelling around for ~1 week from today onwards, so i'll be a bit MIA until next thursday
[09:54] <ochosi> i'll try to check in every now and then though, but don't expect me to get too much done ;)
[09:55] <slickymasterWork> travel safe ochosi anf have fun
[09:56] <ochosi> thanks, will do!
[13:05] <elfy> ochosi: have fun
[17:42] <elfy> evening peeps
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-nl
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[07:06] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[07:41] <Goudfazant3991> hallo allemaal
[07:42] <lordievader> o/
[07:42] <Goudfazant3991> 3 tera byte geformatteerd
[07:42] <Goudfazant3991> nouw heeft de grub weer de windows schijf overgenomen
[07:43] <Goudfazant3991> omdat ik vergeten was de sata kabel er af te halen
[07:45] <Goudfazant3991> dus als ik nu opstart kom ik in het grub scherm en kan ik een keuze maken of naar Terminal of naar windows
[07:46] <Goudfazant3991> maar ik moet toch wel steeds de dvd er in doen om te werken zoals nu
[07:48] <Sling> ok
[07:50] <Goudfazant3991> als ik 14.04 installeer dan doet hij dat wel / maar als ik afsluit en overnieuw opstart dan is dat geen wat ik heb geinstalleerd 14.04 weer weg?
[07:52] <Goudfazant3991> en komt de terminal met login weer te voorschijn
[07:52] <Goudfazant3991> die doet het wel goed
[07:53] <Goudfazant3991> alle gegevens van ok,ok,ok, ect,ect
[07:57] <Goudfazant3991> command voor aansturing voor printer blijft uit
[07:58] <Goudfazant3991> printf werkt niet
[07:59] <Goudfazant3991> sudo apt-get pr werk niet
[08:00] <lordievader> Mogelijk ligt het aan mij, maar ik snap er geen fluit van. Aan de ene kant zeg je dat je de dvd nodig hebt (live-sessie), en aan de andere kant krijg ik de indruk dat je van je installatie gebruik maakt.
[08:02] <Goudfazant3991> lorievader je hoeft ook geen fluit te snappen als je de kreten maar snapt
[08:03] <Goudfazant3991> zoals >> dmesg << werkt wel binnen de ter
[08:03] <lordievader> Juist. Ik hou mij er wel buiten.
[08:04] <Goudfazant3991> wat is de bedoeling daar van >> ik hou mij er wel buiten??
[08:05] <Goudfazant3991> gisteren was het toch format de schijf overnieuw.
[08:06] <Goudfazant3991> heb ik gedaan
[08:08] <Goudfazant3991> lordievader begrijpt U nou niet dat hij steeds die ubuntu 14.04 niet pakt
[08:08] <Goudfazant3991> maar wel die Terminal
[08:09] <lordievader> Ik weet niet meer wat ik wel en niet moet geloven.
[08:09] <Goudfazant3991> ik heb gisteren alles schoon gemaakt van die 3 Tera
[08:10] <lordievader> Ik zou zeggen dat je volledig overnieuw begint. Maakt het waarschijnlijk voor zowel jou, als ons, begrijpelijker.
[08:10] <Goudfazant3991> en ben gewoon begonnen met de 14.04 dvd van ubuntu
[08:11] <Goudfazant3991> te installeren
[08:11] <lordievader> Overigens moet ik zeggen dat ik nu geen tijd heb om er in te steken. Ik moet met andere zaken bezig.
[08:15] <Goudfazant3991> o sorry , je moet altijd doen wat je zelf denk wat het beste voor je is; maar altans nog bedankt voor zover
[08:15] <Goudfazant3991> en nog een fijne dag
[08:35] <mandje> lol. er moet echt een interventie-team naar de goud-voliere. denk ergens in belgie. ik heb een busje waar 6 mensen in kunnen. ;)
[08:39] <jpjacobs> inderdaad
[08:39] <jpjacobs> het wordt met de dag hilarischer
[08:40] <jpjacobs> is er geen LUG die thuis interventies doet?
[10:29] <mandje> wat is er aan de hand als gnome-system-monitor staat te klapperen tussen 8% cpu en > 60% cpu?
[10:30] <jpjacobs> niet zoveel denk ik. Hoeveel cores heeft je CPU?
[10:32] <mandje> 4 stuks. ik vind system monitor verdraaid handig tooltje maar dat ie vaak zoveel cpu pakt snap ik niet.
[10:34] * mandje gaat zoeken naar terminal alternatief voor sys mon.
[10:34] <jpjacobs> htop is netjes
[10:35] <lordievader> mandje: Atop, die ziet daadwerkelijk alle processen.
[10:35] <lordievader> Ook shortlived ones.
[10:41] <mandje> danke. ik vind hier nog meer suggesties. http://askubuntu.com/questions/124159/a-light-alternative-to-gnome-system-monitor
[11:56] <oldsk00l> weet iemand een goede winamp cloon voor linux ?
[11:57] <Middernacht> oldsk00l: http://www.xmms.org/ misschien is dit iets?
[12:01] <lordievader> mpd ftw \o/
[12:04] <oldsk00l> Middernacht: kan ik daar ook mee over het netwerk de muziek weg trekken ?
[12:05] <Fermata> Of we betalen gewoon voor muziek.
[12:09] <Middernacht> oldsk00l: Ik heb geen idee
[12:09] <oldsk00l> ok
[12:09] <lordievader> Mpd doet wel aan netwerken :D
[12:12] <Middernacht> MPD doet een hele hoop, maar daar moet je over het algemeen ook een hele hoop voor doen :p
[12:12] <oldsk00l> lordievader: mpd heet het zo, of heeft het een voledige naam
[12:12] <lordievader> Meh, niet echt. Gewoon een stream erin jassen en op play drukken.
[12:12] <lordievader> oldsk00l: Music Player Daemon staat het voor.
[12:14] <Middernacht> lordievader: Dat is waar, maar ik denk dat je wel even zoet bent voordat het op Winamp begint te lijken.
[12:15] <lordievader> Dat moet je ook gewoon niet willen :P
[12:15] <Middernacht> Ook dat ben ik met je eens lordievader. :)
[12:18] <mandje> je moet ook gewoon windoos gebruiken. dat hep tenminste goeje program.. eh. aps.
[12:18] <lordievader> mandje: Lightroom, ik ben het met jou eens ;)
[12:19] <Middernacht> mandje: akkoord, je ga tog nie in zo'n zwart venstertje zitte tikkuh
[12:27] <oldsk00l> Middernacht: hoeft er niet op te lijken hoor was gewoon nieuwschierig :P
[12:32] <Middernacht> oldsk00l: Ik was vroeger een hele erge fan van Amarok, ik weet niet wat de staat er nu van is. Maar toen in 2007 was het de bom. In ieder geval voor mij.
[12:33] <oldsk00l> Middernacht: oke dat ken ik niet
[12:37] <lordievader> Amarok 1.4 was geweldig. 2.x ben ik niet echt over te spreken. Gelukkig is er Clementine.
[16:02] <JanC> oldsk00l: Winamp kloon → Audacious; maar persoonlijk ben ik wel meer fan van Quod Libet
[16:20] <jpjacobs> tegenwoordig is vlc voor muziek ook niet slecht ... maar vermits ik tegenwoordig veel op windows hang gebruik ik nogal wat foobar2000
[16:21] <jpjacobs> geen idee of die ook voor ubuntu bestaat
[16:21] <oldsk00l> jpjacobs: ok:p zal de opties is ff overwegen :P
[16:26] <SCHAAP137> jpjacobs, je kunt 'm probleemloos onder WINE draaien
[16:26] <SCHAAP137> werkt prima hierzo
[16:26] <SCHAAP137> kgebruik foobar2000 of Clementine
[17:04] <bambixmuts> Exit
[18:28] <OerHeks> Als ik muziek afspeel met Thunderbird, heb ik geeneens een equaliser nodig.
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: heb je deze al gezien: https://ninjablocks.com/#/
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> Operating System
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> Snappy Ubuntu Core
[18:38] <OerHeks> nice !
[18:39] <OerHeks> Niet dat ik zo'n ding wil hebben, maar eindelijk een voorbeeld
[18:39] <Fermata> Ziet eruit als een gaaf dingetje ja.
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> internet of things komt op ons af met razend snel tempo
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> dan heb ik toch liever dat het spul op ubuntu draait :p
[18:41] <OerHeks> zeker, als je onderaan ziet welke bekende lr.c. lampen er mee werken, mooi
[18:41] <OerHeks> * r.c.
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> straks komt de apple watch, en loopt iedereen als robot over onze planeet : o
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> nog een google bril erbij en android phone en je lijkt wel op een android
[18:42] <OerHeks> zonder zoń phone voel je je fijntjes alleen.
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> draai ubuntu touch op men nexus7 en voel me toch niet alleen hoor :p
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:42] <rick_h_> evening
[01:06] <cmaloney> How's the day so far?
[01:07] <jrwren> keep it rocking
[01:19] <cscheib> are there any worthwhile linux and/or devopsy groups around town other than MUG? compiling a list of stuff for my Puppet User Group
[01:21] <cscheib> jrwren: ^^
[01:21] <cscheib> or jcastro ^^
[01:23] <cmaloney> There's MDLUG
[01:23] <jrwren> he said worthwhile :p
[01:23] <cmaloney> Not sure how DevOps they are but it's another Linux / UNIX group
[01:23] <cmaloney> jrwren: behave.
[01:24] <cscheib> well, if he didn't say it, I would have
[01:25] <cscheib> :P
[01:51] <greg-g> Another night where beinng serenaded by Mark Lanegan is needed.
[01:57] <cmaloney> http://www.metalinjection.net/video/zach-hills-drum-stick-pov-cam-might-make-you-puke
[01:57] <cmaloney> How about this?
[02:02] <greg-g> nope
[02:05] <cmaloney> nope nope, or just nope?
[02:07] <greg-g> don't need a seizure tonight :)
[02:09] <cmaloney> Actually if you're a drummer you won't have too much trouble seeing what's going on.
[02:10] <greg-g> yeah, wasn't too bad in that respect, but man, hurt my eyes
[02:19] <greg-g> and then a switch to a couple QOTSA songs, next in the queue are some Desert Sessions albums
[02:20] <cscheib> LIke Clockwork is an awesome album
[02:22] <greg-g> I actually don't have that one yet :/
[02:22] <cscheib> it's on Spotify, if you have that.
[02:23] <greg-g> nope
[02:24] <greg-g> I do like listening to Dave Grohl play the drums
[10:17] <jcastro> cscheib, not sure, but I might check this out: http://www.meetup.com/AWS-Michigan/
[10:18] <jcastro> I've never been though
[12:07] <cmaloney> Happy "Don't Take Anything Seriously" day.
[12:09] <cmaloney> https://www.gentoo.org/
[12:09] <cmaloney> OK, this is pretty cool.
[12:14] <_stink_> hah, nice
[14:18] <cscheib> jcastro: Chef? ouch.
[14:18] <jcastro> ok since everyone keeps asking, no, we're not nuking your puppet install
[14:19] <cscheib> April 1's an interesting release date, heh
[14:21] <jrwren> supporting chef and puppet is no different than supporting mysql and postgresql
[14:22] <jrwren> or supporting sendmail, exim and postfix
[14:22] <jrwren> they are all really good, so we want to support them all
[14:51] <cmaloney> jrwren: Ansible, postfix, postgresql
[14:51] <cmaloney> fixed that for you.
[14:59] <jrwren> wha?
[15:00] <jrwren> cmaloney: so opinionated :)
[15:05] <greg-g> cmaloney: http://www.reddit.com/r/stonerrock/comments/31107t/new_tool_music_leak_they_just_released_a_sneak/
[15:07] <cmaloney> greg-g: Yeah, I'm holding out until the album is in my hot little hands. :)
[15:07] <greg-g> I loved the "such polyrhythms" comment
[15:07] <cmaloney> greg-g: yeah, could see that one coming.
[15:08] <cmaloney> Also: Subscribed to the Stoner Rock reddit
[15:09] * greg-g nods
[15:09] <greg-g> good stuff
[15:10] <cmaloney> Might as well. Subscribed to the Epic Metal / Prog Metal / Prog Rock Music reddits
[15:10] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/progmetal <- Still love this mascot.
[15:10] <greg-g> nice
[15:10] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/progrockmusic <- And this one.
[15:13] <greg-g> heh, yeah, looks like the same person made all three of those (including epicmetal)
[15:21] <cmaloney> Yeah
[15:21] <cmaloney> The Epic Metal one is OK. The other two I want as tattoos.
[15:21] <greg-g> hah
[15:26] <greg-g> we just hired another DD at WMF :)
[15:26] <greg-g> we have a thing for them
[15:27] <cmaloney> Need a clarification, please.
[15:27] <greg-g> Debian Developer
[15:27] <cmaloney> Thank you.
[15:27] <cmaloney> Mind did not go there directly.
[15:28] <greg-g> sorry
[15:28] <cmaloney> No worries. :)
[15:28] <cmaloney> Figured where my mind went was uncharacteristic for a hiring decision. :)
[15:29] <greg-g> on another topic: yay! the blinkenlights UI option for offlineimap works again (not sure when it was fixed)
[15:40] <cscheib> WMF?
[15:40] <greg-g> Wikimedia Foundation
[15:42] <cscheib> ah
http://www.meetup.com/Detroit-Craftsman-Guild/events/221391424/
[15:46] <jrwren> derekv2: what do they build?
[15:46] <derekv2> softwares
[16:17] <derekv2> you include an example app. the example app uses angular, so I can't follow anything you did. You used grunt, and you used it in some sort of nonstandard way, so I have no idea how to build you demo.
[16:18] <derekv2> i don't think you understand the purpose of example apps
[16:18] <derekv2> s/you/this guy
[18:45] <cscheib> jcastro: ha, you got Puppet's CEO to comment on your chef announcement
[18:45] <jcastro> hah yeah
[18:45] <jcastro> I doubt I'm on the xmas card list
[18:45] <cscheib> haha
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-pt
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[20:57] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.450734
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[14:04] <bwmaker> Morning, ladies and gents.
[14:08] <wrst> hello bwmaker
[14:15] <bwmaker> How's it going?
[15:30] <wrst> pretty good bwmaker, and you?
[15:30] <wrst> hello excid3|cloud
[15:32] <bwmaker> wrst: Good. Nice day out, getting some things going that I've been fighting with but it coming together.
[15:33] <bwmaker> Hi excid3|cloud. Welcome!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.453268
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-us-or
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[01:25] <c_smith> soooo.... for food for the release party, not sure what I'll do (short on money without even having to pay to repair a laptop), anyone have suggestions as to how to keep costs to a reasonable level?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.455539
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-ca
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[16:43] <genii> BobJonkman: Heh, I sent Sergio an invite to his RedHat email from my Ubuntu email, he gave me his personal one in the reply ( he will attend ). I wonder if the company email servers there flag stuff coming in from competitors
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-se
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[07:18] <HeMan> Morrn!
[08:09] <MarkusDBX> Någon som vet ett sätt att X11 forwarda java applikationer utan att det blir ur-segt!!!. Verkar som att JVM maskinen laggar ner rejält.
[11:19] <peyam> hej
[11:19] <peyam> vad är Horny Handyman?
[11:19] <peyam> står åp dn
[11:55] <Hund_> Jag har installerat Xubuntu på mammas dator. Jag har det på svenska åt henne. Men mapparna (Bilder osv) är inte på svenska?
[11:57] <Coffe> Hund har för mig den frågar om du vill göra om dess namn till svenska.. men är inte säker.
[11:58] <Hund_> Coffe, Vart skulle den ha frågat det?
[11:58] <Coffe> första inloggningen.. men är som sagt inte säker.. har för mig jag läste att de skulle ta bort det.. från 12.10
[11:59] <Hund_> Och en annan grej. Varför frågar den efter mitt lösenord när jag gör administrativa saker på hennes konto?
[11:59] <Coffe> för den ska göra det
[11:59] <Coffe> för det kräver root.
[12:00] <Coffe> och hon inte har rättighet att köra sudo
[12:00] <Hund_> Jag har lagt till henne i /etc/sudoers
[12:01] <Hund_> Det är lite förvirrande när man ibland behöver ange hennes lösenord och ibland mitt.
[12:07] <Hund_> Så
[12:07] <Hund_> Mapparna är löst.
[12:07] <Hund_> Det var jag som var dålig på att googla första gången. :P
[13:14] <ePax> 0_o
[13:19] <Coffe> uwwwwh haglar
[15:37] <Amoz> hur svårt är att det använda den nya funktionen för live-patching i linux 4.0? är det ens värt för en vanlig hemserver?
[16:15] <Hund> Amoz: Jag skulle gissa på att det är en bagatell.
[16:17] <Amoz> Hund, verkar tyvärr inte så =/ v4.0 introducerar tydligen bara stödet för mer avancerade användare (sysadmins etc.) så jag tolkar det som att det inte är "automagiskt" för tillfället. Aja, nöjer mig med lite fler btrfs-fixar istället ^_^
[16:18] <HeMan> det är väl inte ens komplett?
[16:18] <HeMan> dvs det är en bra början men det går inte använda än?
[16:18] <Hund> Amoz: Jag försöker läsa om det på Slashdot. Men efter en kommentar så mynnar det ut i något flamewar om något helt annat.
[16:19] <Amoz> HeMan, möjligt, men på OMGubuntu så verkar det som att det på nåt sätt *går* att fixa till det , men det kanske är väldigt jobbigt eller nåt :P
[16:24] <HeMan> http://lwn.net/Articles/634649/
[16:25] <andol> HeMan: s#http://#https://#
[16:25] <HeMan> eller http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=1d9c5d79e6e4385aea6f69c23ba543717434ed70 om man vill ha lite mer hard core info
[16:26] <HeMan> andol: meh!
[16:26] <HeMan> andol: jag är ju så nöjd att det går över ipv6!
[16:26] <HeMan> :)
[16:26] <andol> Förövrigt applicerbart på båda länkarna :)
[16:26] <HeMan> jo
[16:28] <larsemil> HeMan: toolchainen för att bygga rpi imagen är....
[16:28] <larsemil> 37G stor...
[16:29] <Amoz> uh. undrar varför de börjar basunera ut "live patching!!!" om det knappt ens går att använda O_O
[16:31] <HeMan> larsemil: heh
[16:32] <HeMan> Amoz: iofs så sa Linus Torvalds "... (incomplete) live-patching mechanism..."
[16:33] <Amoz> HeMan, i detta fall menade jag de = nyhetssidor :) så det är inte Torvalds fel
[16:33] <HeMan> Amoz: ne, nyhetssidorna har varit lite väl glada i att berätta om live patchningen
[16:34] <Amoz> idd
[16:34] <Amoz> nästan det som har nämnts som "main feature" i mina ögon
[16:34] <larsemil> HeMan: är ju bisarrt
[16:35] <Hund> Jag var helt övertygad om att det var klart efter att man ha läst på "OMG! Ubuntu" osv.
[16:35] <HeMan> larsemil: jag tror iofs Androids byggmiljö är gigantisk
[16:36] <larsemil> uppenbarligen
[16:36] <HeMan> larsemil: jag har kollegor som gjort Android-prylar och de har pratat om det
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-ru
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[03:23] <mapps> hello
[10:12] <tagezi> утра всем
[10:15] <SergeyIT> утра
[10:20] <UNIm95> Ping
[10:20] <UNIm95> !ping
[10:20] <ubuntuhelp> 100500 bytes from google.com (100.500.0.0): icmp_seq=100 ttl=500 time=0 ms
[10:21] <UNIm95> Всем привет. Я что-нибудь пропустил?
[10:41] <SergeyIT> спи спокойно
[10:58] * UNIm95 z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z
[12:37] <Haron> O/msg ubuntuhelp !help
[13:47] <SergeyIT> tagezi: у вас там грозы?
[14:01] <froover> Драйвера для виртуальной графики в virtualbox не работают с релиза со вторыv сервис паком Ubuntu 14.04.2 приходится использовать образ с драйверами от virtualbox, и устанавливать расширение мимо пакетного менеджера.
[14:01] <froover> Баг с этим событие оформлялся на lanchpad?
[14:01] <froover> Проблем нет с Ubuntu 14.04. и 14.10
[14:10] <tagezi> SergeyIT: на горизонте чо стороны Выборга полыхает но до нас не дошло
[19:21] <Sergey_IT> зачем тут то скакать?
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2015-04-13-#launchpad-dev
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[15:28] <sil2100> cjwatson: yaay, saw the getLatestSourcePublication() merge getting approved and merged, finally I get get rid of all my http-abusing workarounds
[15:29] <sil2100> Thanks guys
[15:29] <sil2100> :)
[15:29] <cjwatson> sil2100: excellent :)
[23:01] <cjwatson> git fanfic: http://hirez.livejournal.com/497893.html
[23:31] <lifeless> blink
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.480166
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-it
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[05:46] <akis24> giorno
[09:06] <davegarath> !paste
[09:06] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[11:20] <glpiana> ola
[15:20] <anubi|asus> 'sera
[15:20] <anubi|asus> come faccio ad eliminare in modo permanente l'interfaccia eth0 ?
[15:21] <krabador> "ad eliminare in modo permanente" ---> la disabiliti dal bios
[15:22] <anubi|asus> allora
[15:22] <anubi|asus> partiamo dall'inizio
[15:22] <krabador> appunto.
[15:22] <anubi|asus> il mio ultrabbok non ha una porta ethernet
[15:22] <anubi|asus> utilizoz un adattatore usb-ethernet
[15:23] <anubi|asus> stavo facendo qualche prova per cancellare la cache dei lease dhcp
[15:23] <anubi|asus> sudo dhcp -r eth0.
[15:23] <anubi|asus> riavvio
[15:24] <anubi|asus> mi connetto alla rete wired con l'adattatore e mi spunta una nuova interfaccia
[15:24] <anubi|asus> rename5
[15:24] <anubi|asus> do una sistematina al file 70-persistent-net.rules
[15:25] <anubi|asus> ma vedo che il mac dell'adattatore è diverso dal mac associato all'interfaccia eth0
[15:25] <anubi|asus> che me la ritrovo sempre
[15:25] <anubi|asus> anche quando tolgo l'adattatore usb-ethernet
[15:26] <krabador> anubi|asus, hai una copia dell'originale 70-persistent-net.rules ?
[15:26] <anubi|asus> purtroppo no
[15:26] <anubi|asus> ma ho solo commentato
[15:26] <krabador> ah,ok, se hai fatto modifiche reversibili, uguale
[15:27] <anubi|asus> # USB device 0x:0x (asix)
[15:27] <anubi|asus> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:0c:f6:f1:3d:68", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1"
[15:27] <krabador> allora, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces , lasci soltanto
[15:27] <krabador> auto lo
[15:27] <krabador> iface lo inet loopback
[15:28] <anubi|asus> se metto eth0 mi spunta poi l'interfaccia rename5,6
[15:28] <anubi|asus> già fatto
[15:28] <krabador> sudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[15:28] <krabador> cerchi [ifupdown]
[15:29] <krabador> e gli assegni managed=false
[15:29] <krabador> al riavvio, ti gestisci le schede da networl manager
[15:29] <anubi|asus> è già così
[15:30] <krabador> anubi|asus, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:30] <krabador> cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit
[15:30] <anubi|asus> che cos'è?
[15:30] <krabador> cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf | pastebinit
[15:31] <anubi|asus> http://paste.debian.net/166543/
[15:31] <anubi|asus> che figata
[15:31] <anubi|asus> non lo conoscevo
[15:33] <anubi|asus> ho cancellato il file dhclient.leases
[15:33] <anubi|asus> krabador, secondo te può aver influito ?
[15:33] <krabador> cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit
[15:34] <anubi|asus> http://paste.debian.net/166544/
[15:34] <krabador> ifconfig | pastebinit
[15:36] <anubi|asus> http://paste.debian.net/166545/
[15:39] <krabador> sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[15:40] <anubi|asus> lshw non va
[15:41] <anubi|asus> comando non trovato
[15:42] <krabador> su ubuntu c'è.
[15:45] <anubi|asus> ehm ho una debian testing....fratellini siamo :)
[15:46] <anubi|asus> http://paste.debian.net/166548/
[15:46] <anubi|asus> installato
[15:47] <krabador> product: iPhone --- logical name: eth0
[15:48] <anubi|asus> meeeeeeeeeeee
[15:48] <anubi|asus> era nascoto dietro il monitor
[15:49] <krabador> con quello che costa, lo nascondi pure ?
[15:50] <anubi|asus> è un 4s
[15:50] <anubi|asus> è entrato nel quarto anno
[15:50] <anubi|asus> miracoloooo
[15:51] <anubi|asus> spe riavvio
[15:51] <anubi|asus> veidmoa che succede
[15:51] <anubi|asus> sto tornando krabador
[15:51] <krabador> riavvio anch'io
[15:51] <anubi|asus> ok
[15:52] <anubi|asus> poi mi devi dire come
[15:52] <anubi|asus> svuotare la cache dei lease dhcp
[15:55] <anubi|asus> krabador,
[15:55] <anubi|asus> va
[15:55] <anubi|asus> tutto ok
[15:55] <anubi|asus> andiamo al problema più semplice
[15:56] <anubi|asus> svuotare la cache del dhcp
[15:57] <anubi|asus> http://paste.debian.net/166549/
[15:58] <anubi|asus> anche se cancello sto file
[15:58] <anubi|asus> o lo modifico
[15:58] <anubi|asus> sempre .152 mi da
[15:58] <anubi|asus> deve darmi .151
[17:21] <anubi|asus> krabador,
[17:21] <anubi|asus> ci sei ?
[17:31] <anubi|asus> per il dhcp ?
[18:52] <itkk> buonasera
[18:53] <itkk> ho appena installato ubuntu 14.4 sul mio portatile asus n61jq
[18:53] <itkk> esiste un driver per il touchpad?
[18:57] <krabador> itkk, non funziona proprio?
[19:02] <itkk> krabador funziona ma non posso per esempio simulare il tasto destro premendo con tre dita sul touchpad...
[19:02] <itkk> su windows con i driver potevo farlo
[19:03] <krabador> itkk, feature speciali, purtroppo sono questioni spinose, in quanto si possono supportare, soltanto in presenza di documentazione da parte del produttore del device
[19:03] <itkk> quindi non ho speranze?
[19:15] <cristian_c> multitouch
[19:16] <itkk> ecco il multitouch non mi funziona.. c'è un modo per abilitarlo?
[19:17] <cristian_c> itkk, a volte con software esterno a quello preinstallato
[19:17] <cristian_c> a volte configurando lo strumento a riga di comando xinput
[19:17] <cristian_c> in ogni caso, non è una cosa banale
[19:18] <cristian_c> quindi la domanda è se ne vale la pena
[19:19] <itkk> mi sarebbe molto utile perche il tasto destro del touchpad non funziona molto bene
[19:19] <cristian_c> itkk, tasto soft?
[19:19] <cristian_c> itkk, che problemi hai col tasto destro?
[19:20] <itkk> in pratica anche se clicco non funziona
[19:20] <itkk> era un problema che avevo anche su windows
[19:20] <itkk> penso che sia rotto il pulsante
[19:21] <itkk> o meglio ci sono delle volte che funziona.. ho anche provato a smontarlo per vedere se c'era sporco sotto o altro
[19:21] <itkk> ma niente
[19:23] <itkk> su windows ormai non ci facevo più caso perchè utilizzavo il multitouch
[19:25] <cristian_c> itkk, ok
[19:25] <cristian_c> itkk, un attimo
[19:25] <itkk> cristian_c certo
[19:28] <cristian_c> !info touchegg
[19:28] <ubot-it> touchegg (source: touchegg): Multitouch gesture recognizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 63 kB, installed size 183 kB
[19:28] <cristian_c> ma ricordo ci fosse un bug
[19:29] <cristian_c> itkk, anzi, kde dovrebbe permettere di configurarlo
[19:29] <cristian_c> itkk, a questo punto ti consiglio una cosa
[19:29] <cristian_c> itkk, scaricati una live di kubuntu, prova in live a configurare
[19:29] <cristian_c> da interfaccia grafica
[19:30] <cristian_c> itkk, solo come prova
[19:31] <itkk> cristian_c dimmi
[19:31] <cristian_c> itkk, niente di più di quello che ho detto
[19:32] <cristian_c> facendo una ricerca, alcuni utenti confermano che il multitouch funge su quel portatile, qualche anno fa sicuramente
[19:32] <cristian_c> bisogna vedere se effettivamente il supporto al multitouch in generale, è stato rimosso in unity, del touchpad intendo
[19:33] <itkk> ah ho capito
[19:33] <itkk> allora proverò
[19:33] <cristian_c> 'Il multitouch del touchpad Helan funziona ed è configurabile dal systemsetting di kde e supporta fino a tre dita, come su windows. Purtroppo non esistono ancora le funzioni ruota e pitch to zoom a livello software, ma il resto funziona.'
[19:34] <itkk> Grande... se si riuscisse a configurare su unity sarebbe perfetto
[19:35] <itkk> vedrò di fare qualche ricerca
[19:35] <itkk> per quanto riguarda la scheda video invece ho bisogno di installare driver?
[19:35] <cristian_c> itkk, la vedo dura, almeno facilmente, o almeno dura senza applicazioni esterne tipo touchegg
[19:36] <cristian_c> sempre che touchegg funzioni a dovere
[19:36] <cristian_c> itkk, non ho visto bene quel portatile, ma monta una radeon?
[19:36] <itkk> si hd 5730
[19:36] <cristian_c> ati 5730
[19:36] <cristian_c> ok
[19:37] <cristian_c> itkk, secondo me , per quella scheda è scaduto il supporto ufficiale da parte di amd per i driver proprietari
[19:37] <cristian_c> itkk, 14.10?
[19:37] <itkk> no 14.04
[19:37] <itkk> se intendi la versione di ubuntu
[19:38] <cristian_c> in ogni caso, potrai usare soltanto i driver open
[19:38] <cristian_c> itkk, la scheda grafica non è particolarmente recente
[19:38] <itkk> sisi infatti ha i suoi anni questo portatile
[19:38] <cristian_c> itkk, visto che i driver closed per quella scheda li trovi solo su rilasci precedenti di ubuntu
[19:39] <cristian_c> ma è scaduto il supporto per le vecchie ubuntu, quindi sulle nuove ti devi accontentare dei driver open
[19:39] <cristian_c> itkk, poi dipende dall'utilizzo che devi fare
[19:39] <itkk> in pratica cosa cambia?
[19:39] <cristian_c> ma gli open sono già preinstallati e in uso
[19:40] <cristian_c> itkk, gli open sono già integrati nel kernel
[19:40] <cristian_c> quelli proprietari sono closed e li sviluppa amd
[19:41] <cristian_c> ma sulla 14.04 non c'è più il supporto per tale scheda da parte dei driver proprietari, che generalmente sono più performanti
[19:41] <cristian_c> sopratutto nel gaming
[19:41] <cristian_c> e in generale come prestazioni
[19:41] <itkk> mannaggia
[19:41] <cristian_c> eh, va beh
[19:42] <itkk> vabbe mi accontenterò di questi :)
[19:42] <cristian_c> itkk, non so se nella 12.04 i driver closed sono ancora disponibili
[19:42] <cristian_c> itkk, ok
[19:42] <krabador> cristian_c, le ati 5xxx sono supportate ancora dai catalyst
[19:42] <cristian_c> krabador, ecco, io ne avevo una e ricordavo non lo fossero più
[19:43] <cristian_c> ma forse è una 4xxx e mi confondo
[19:43] <itkk> c'è un modo per verificare se la mia scheda è ancora supportata?
[19:44] <cristian_c> itkk, allora puoi subito controllare in Driver aggiuntivo
[19:44] <cristian_c> dovrebbero essere disponibili
[19:44] <cristian_c> se sono in Driver aggiuntivi, allora lo è
[19:44] <krabador> itkk, se hai una ati HD 5xxx in su
[19:44] <krabador> lo è
[19:45] <itkk> ok sono in driver aggiuntivi ed effettivamente come dice krabador ho due driver proprietari
[19:45] <krabador> solo che il catalyst inserito di default nella 14.04 è un po' vecchiotto
[19:46] <itkk> ho provato a cliccare sul diver fglrx e a fare applica modiche ma mi si riabilita x.org x server
[19:47] <itkk> *sul driver
[19:52] <cristian_c> uhm
[19:58] <itkk> ho provato a riavviare ma niente
[19:59] <krabador> itkk, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:59] <krabador> itkk, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:59] <krabador> dopo un po' restituisce un link, postalo pure qui
[20:01] <itkk> kabrador ecco http://paste.ubuntu.com/10818100/
[20:01] <krabador> non hai problemi con i link dei repository
[20:12] <itkk> per quanto riguarda il multitouch mi sono appena reso conto che basta premere con due dita sul touchpad e mi simula il tasto destro del mouse
[20:12] <itkk> quindi problema risolto :)
[20:12] <cristian_c> itkk, ottimo
[20:12] <cristian_c> :D
[20:12] <cristian_c> itkk, puoi postare una schermata di Driver aggiuntivi?
[20:12] <cristian_c> !image
[20:12] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[20:13] <itkk> si lo stavo facendo proprio ora :)
[20:13] <cristian_c> itkk, digita anche: dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[20:14] <cristian_c> incollando il risultato su pastebin
[20:14] <itkk> http://imgur.com/5RvWNGZ
[20:15] <cristian_c> ok
[20:15] <itkk> cristian_c ho digitato quel comando ma non ho avuto alcun risultato
[20:15] <cristian_c> ok
[20:15] <cristian_c> itkk, dunque, digita: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[20:15] <cristian_c> posta la risposta su pastebin
[20:16] <cristian_c> !paste
[20:16] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:17] <itkk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10818196/
[20:18] <krabador> itkk, hai 14.04.2 ?
[20:18] <krabador> figura di merda di ubuntu
[20:18] <krabador> in tempo reale
[20:20] <itkk> kabrador come faccio a vedere la versione esatta di ubuntu?
[20:20] <itkk> da dettagli mi da ubuntu 14.04
[20:21] <itkk> ok si 14.04.2
[20:21] <itkk> ho dato cat /etc/issue
[20:22] <krabador> itkk, allora, 14.04.2 ha un problema con l'isntallazione di fglrx, per una questione inerente a xorg pacchettizzato al suo interno
[20:22] <krabador> itkk, quando hai installato?
[20:22] <itkk> oggi pomeriggio
[20:26] <krabador> itkk, allora, sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[20:27] <itkk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10818279/
[20:38] <cristian_c> itkk, se provi ancora con: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[20:38] <cristian_c> cosa ottieni?
[20:39] <itkk> ho postato prima il link di pastebin
[20:40] <itkk> cristian_c http://paste.ubuntu.com/10818196/
[20:40] <itkk> ah scusa non avevo letto prova ancora
[20:40] <itkk> provo subito
[20:40] <itkk> ok di nuovo la stessa cosa di prima
[20:40] <krabador> itkk, allora, scarica ed installa 14.04.1
[20:41] <itkk> quindi devo formattare tutto oppure è possibile fare qualcosa da terminale?
[20:44] <krabador> itkk, o aspetti che facciano il fix del problema, in 14.04.2 , oppure installi 14.04.1 ed installi il driver
[20:44] <itkk> allora domani se ho tempo penso che proverò a mettere la 14.04.1
[20:45] <itkk> cristian_c e krabador vi ringrazio per la disponibilità :)
[20:45] <krabador> di niente
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-es
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[00:09] <Xago> hola muchachos...necesito encontrar el driver de audio para 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[00:14] <Xago> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
[00:14] <Xago> es un hp envy 15-j106la
[00:40] <Xago> será que están todos durmiendo?
[03:23] <mapps> hola
[03:24] <Hanom1960> o/
[03:25] <mapps> ;D
[03:26] <Hanom1960> How are you?
[03:27] <mapps> I'm good;D just finished work
[03:27] <Hanom1960> Bien :D
[03:27] <Hanom1960> me alegra oir eso
[03:30] <mapps> :D
[07:25] <successus> salud o/
[08:03] * merrick saluda
[09:25] <Rebass> Buenos dias a todos.
[09:26] <Rebass> Tengo un Ubuntu 12.04 como servidor LTSP (distribución LliureX) y se me está reiniciando "de repente" sin poder ver qué está pasando. En el syslog no veo nada que, aparentemente, esté provocando ese reboot. Alguien me puede decir qué puedo hacer para intentar averiguar qué está provocando ese reinicio? Puedo forzar a crear algun tipo de dump o similar?
[09:34] <Rebass> al hacer last | head -n 50 veo un par de crash...
[10:23] <erAbuelo> buenos dias
[13:17] <successus__> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[14:21] <ivedci89-desktop> hola cada rato ubuntu se muestra trabado y no sé qué es...
[14:22] <ivedci89-desktop> las aplicaciones quedan en gris varias veces durante el uso comun
[14:22] <ivedci89-desktop> uso ubuntu 14
[14:24] <ivedci89-desktop> sospeche de que el disco esté dañado pero aun dice Disco correcto (aunque 16 sectores erroneos)
[14:28] <ivedci89-desktop> es cierto que he instalado muchisimas cosas en este ubuntu...pero lo habia hecho similar antes y en otro equipos y no quedaba asi tan lento...
[14:55] <successus> salud o*
[14:56] <successus> salud o/
[18:26] <Guest12888> hola. cuando marco la opccion permitir la instalacion de paquetes no confiables en el centro de software cuando vuelvo abrir el centro esa opccion esta desmarcada
[18:28] <loginl> Guest12888, solo conosco a las lineas . no veo opcion .
[18:28] <Guest12888> lo puedo hacer con comandos?
[18:29] <loginl> normalmente esta opcion esta en /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:30] <mimecar> el sistema te tiene que avisar siempre de que instalas ese tipo de paquetes
[18:32] <cony_> fiero
[18:32] <Guest12888> esque no me deja instalar desde el centro de paquetes de ubuntu. el boton de instalar siempre esta en gris
[18:33] <mimecar> ¿qué versión de Ubuntu estás usando?
[18:33] <Guest12888> puede ser que borrara esa opccion sin querer?
[18:33] <Guest12888> 14.10
[18:33] <mimecar> ¿con todas las actualizaciones?
[18:33] <Guest12888> si
[18:34] <mimecar> ¿qué paquete quieres instalar?
[18:34] <Guest12888> ahora mismo ninguno. pero desde el centro de software nunca puedo siempr tengo que instalar desde la consola
[18:35] <mimecar> intenta no instalar paquetes sueltos, tendrás menos problemas
[18:36] <Guest12888> ego que nstala con apt-get install .....
[18:36] <Guest12888> siempre tengo que instalar con apt-get install ...
[18:37] <mimecar> ¿esos paquetes no tienen ningún repositorio PPA asociado?
[18:38] <Guest12888> como puedo editar /etc/apt/sources.list para poder instalar paquetes no confiables?
[18:38] <mimecar> no puedes
[18:38] <mimecar> siempre te tiene que salir el aviso de que el paquete no es fiable
[18:38] <Guest12888> algunos si otros no. desde consola pongo sus ppa y sin problemas.
[18:39] <mimecar> los PPA tienen actualizaciones, los paquetes sueltos no
[18:39] <Guest12888> entonces porque no puedo instalar desde el centro de software?
[18:39] <mimecar> te debería salir una casilla para aceptar instalar un paquete que no es seguro
[18:39] <Guest12888> hace poco estuve borrando ppa erroneos desde entonces me sucede esto
[18:40] <mimecar> ¿cómo los borraste?
[18:41] <Guest12888> creo que desde app manager o editando el archivo sources.list
[18:42] <mimecar> los paquetes no se quitan de esa forma
[18:42] <mimecar> usa ppapurge
[18:42] <Guest12888> cual seria el comando completo
[18:43] <mimecar> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/183841
[18:45] <Guest12888> y ahora que pasa con los que e quitado? y eso como afecta al centro de software para no poder instalar?
[18:46] <mimecar> si sólo has quitado la línea del deb no debería afectar al centro de software
[18:46] <mimecar> siempre que no hayas instalado alguna aplicacion que lo modifique
[18:48] <Guest12888> como se si e quitado las lineas deb?
[18:49] <Guest12888> tambien me fallan las llaves publicas de los programas
[18:49] <mimecar> ¿has añadido las llaves públicas de los PPA?
[18:50] <Guest12888> siempre con todos los programas que lo ponen en los tutoriales
[18:50] <mimecar> entonces no te puede pedir ninguna llave pública de esos repositorios
[18:51] <Guest12888> cuando actualizo me pone: W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net utopic Release: Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 9F47B51FD05009CB
[18:52] <Guest12888> asi un monton de veces con muchos programas
[18:52] <mimecar> eso será que tienes un repositorio que no has importado la llave
[18:52] <mimecar> esa llave parece que no existe
[18:52] <Guest12888> eso me pasa desde que toque los repositorios. antes tenia todas las llaves
[18:53] <Guest12888> esos errores no salian
[18:53] <mimecar> esa llave no existe
[18:53] <mimecar> elimina los repositorios que no uses
[18:55] <Guest12888> tengo muchos. como se cuales funcionan y cuales no?
[18:55] <mimecar> ¿cuántos son "muchos"?
[18:56] <Guest12888> hay alguna manera de enseñartelos?
[18:56] <mimecar> pon en pastebin la salida de 'sudo apt-get update'
[18:59] <Guest12888> http://pastebin.com/QR46sZFL
[19:00] <mimecar> bunkus está caído
[19:01] <mimecar> ¿no tienes las llaves de Ubuntu 14.10?
[19:01] <mimecar> W: Error de GPG: http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic Release: Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[19:01] <mimecar> ¿cómo has instalado esa versión de Ubuntu?
[19:02] <Guest12888> la tengo desde 14.04
[19:02] <mimecar> las firmas las deberías tener al actualizar a la 14.10
[19:03] <mimecar> si no las has borrado al hacer la "limpieza" no le veo lógica
[19:04] <mimecar> te faltan firmas de varios repositorios
[19:04] <Guest12888> uso bleachbit para limpiar todo
[19:04] <mimecar> esas herramientas se tienen que manejar con cuidado
[19:06] <mimecar> tendrás que añadir de nuevo las firmas
[19:07] <Guest12888> cual seria la manera mas comoda de hacerlo?
[19:08] <mimecar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/520828/gpg-error-no-pubkey-warning-the-following-packages-cannot-be-authenticated
[19:09] <Guest12888> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[19:10] <Guest12888> poniendo eso y sustituyendo solo el ultimo numero?
[19:10] <mimecar> esa es una de las firmas que te falla?
[20:20] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
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2015-04-13-#juju
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[09:35] <cory_fu> Spads: http://big-data-charm-helpers.readthedocs.org/en/latest/examples/framework.html
[11:20] <apuimedo> can juju bundle use "charm: 'local:....'"? Cause bundle proof does not recognize it
[11:23] <apuimedo> marcoceppi_: ^^
[11:24] <marcoceppi_> apuimedo: not charm: local, but branch: <bzr branch> will work, and I think local: may work as well
[11:24] <apuimedo> oh good
[11:24] <apuimedo> let me check
[11:26] <apuimedo> local: makes the proofer through an error (just like branch: does )
[11:26] <apuimedo> I think the proofer supports charm:
[11:27] <apuimedo> since it fails with KeyError: 'charm'
[11:30] <marcoceppi_> can you post your whole bundle
[11:30] <marcoceppi_> you can't use local for charm-store bundles, just for local bundles
[12:07] <apuimedo> marcoceppi_: it's a local bundle atm
[12:34] <lazyPower> apuimedo: if this is just for testing/deployment, thats not an issue. When you go for charm store promulgation you'll want to refactor out the local: and plug in cs:series/service-revision
[12:34] <apuimedo> indeed ;-)
[12:35] <apuimedo> lazyPower: One thing that should be done is to find some way to document the protocols
[12:35] <apuimedo> for the openstack services it could be quite useful
[12:35] <lazyPower> when you say protocols you mean the relationship interfaces?
[12:35] <apuimedo> not when it's simple setting or getting
[12:35] <apuimedo> interface protocols, yes
[12:35] <lazyPower> We started doing that in our charm readmes/doc sites
[12:36] <apuimedo> but when it's two-or-more steps
[12:36] <lazyPower> http://chuckbutler.github.io/docker-charm/user/configuration.html
[12:37] <lazyPower> i've adopted the pattern of: sends variables (or data) / receives variables (or data) - i need to normalize that nomenclature, but its handy to have as a reference.
[12:37] <apuimedo> I was trying to think of something that could present the information of complicated services
[12:37] <apuimedo> but the best I could come up with was flow charts
[12:37] <lazyPower> you know, i did that with the DNS charm as well
[12:37] <apuimedo> specially when there are config variables involved
[12:37] <lazyPower> https://github.com/chuckbutler/DNS-Charm/tree/master/docs
[12:38] <lazyPower> but yeah - i understand what you're getting at. this is somethin gi've been noodling/experimenting with since i started
[12:38] <lazyPower> i feel our current "grep the source" model is for the birds.
[12:38] <lazyPower> we were talking about doing code analysis to scan the relationships and update a listing somewhere. I still might do this, and any charms that dont make it through the lexer are manually parsed
[12:38] <apuimedo> lazyPower: those are cool graphs :-)
[12:39] <lazyPower> draw.io - i can take no credit :)
[12:39] <apuimedo> :-)
[12:40] <apuimedo> that looks easier than my graphviz approach
[13:05] <schkovich> nice work lazyPower :)
[13:06] <lazyPower> thanks schkovich
[13:52] <jose> marcoceppi_, lazyPower, mbruzek: I won't be able to join you for the Juju Office Hours this time, I'll be in class
[13:52] <mbruzek> OK.
[13:53] <mbruzek> Study hard!
[13:53] <mbruzek> Or Pay attention!
[13:53] <jose> :P
[13:53] <jose> sure, sure...
[14:47] <schkovich> Is it safe to assume that JUJU_ENV_NAME will be always set?
[15:04] <cory_fu> cmars: http://big-data-charm-helpers.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[15:04] <cory_fu> cmars: lp:~bigdata-dev/charm-helpers/framework
[15:30] <marcoceppi_> schkovich: so long as you're in a hook context, yes
[15:52] <AskUbuntu> Juju - Can't access juju charm store | http://askubuntu.com/q/608792
[18:25] <Guest36694> is there a good mail server charm?
[18:25] <lazyPower> There is a postfix charm Guest36694
[18:26] <lazyPower> admittedly i have limited interaction with it
[18:26] <lazyPower> https://jujucharms.com/postfix/precise/2
[18:28] <VijayT_> Hi
[18:28] <Guest36694> hmm. looked for it. jujucharms.com search doesn't return anything for 'postfix' or 'mail'
[18:29] <VijayT_> do we need to install juju as root?
[18:29] <VijayT_> using root login
[18:30] <lazyPower> Guest36694: that link should have shown the postfix charm in teh store
[18:30] <lazyPower> VijayT_: you do not, juju is happy running as a user. if it requiers elevated privs it will prompt you for a sudo password
[18:30] <Guest36694> I see it. just letting you know.
[18:30] <Guest36694> it will return if I separate 'post fix'
[18:30] <lazyPower> interesting, i searched for postfix. I think they are in the middle of a deployment
[18:31] <lazyPower> I'll follow up with our webops/ui engineering team however, thanks for the heads up Guest36694
[18:32] <VijayT_> thanks lazypower
[21:27] <msbrown> How does one prevent juju-deployer from giving identical iSCSI initiator names to hosts?
[23:23] <lazyPower> msbrown: thats a very specific question, and i'm not sure i have an answer. That might be worthwhile to ping the list
[23:24] <lazyPower> msbrown: [email protected] - there's a sprint going on with the juju teams so they are mostly in EU timezones right now
[23:27] <blahdeblah> lazyPower: I don't suppose you got a chance to look at my questions about the quassel-core amulet tests? :-)
[23:28] <lazyPower> blahdeblah: i have not, but i can take a look
[23:28] <blahdeblah> lazyPower: I don't think I put them in the MP; I pinged you a few days ago in canonical #juju
[23:28] <lazyPower> https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/999439 >
[23:28] <mup> Bug #999439: Need charm for quassel-core <new-charm> <Juju Charms Collection:Fix Committed by paulgear> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/999439>
[23:28] <lazyPower> oh
[23:28] <blahdeblah> lazyPower: I can find them again if needed
[23:28] <lazyPower> that would be brilliant if you dont mind
[23:30] <blahdeblah> lazyPower: The main question is why the deployment setup has to be a class method instead of an instance method, since this seems to prevent running of multiple deployments from the same test.
[23:33] <lazyPower> when issued through bundletester I was getting weird side effects from the deployment, and this is a byproduct of using instance methods. Converting it to a class kept the deployment on point in the test - but its a worthwhile discussion to bring up on the list to see if we can mod the testing tools to support both.
[23:33] <blahdeblah> Now that I know how to access class methods & variables in python, this is less of a big deal than it was. ;-)
[23:33] <lazyPower> While it works in some cases, i've run into cases where it just flat out side-effects the test into working once, then failing on the next run :|
[23:34] <lazyPower> i wish i had a better answer, but i can describe the effect vs the fix - this was actually suggested by mbruzek to me about 3 weeks ago when i ran into the issue
[23:34] <blahdeblah> OK
[23:34] <blahdeblah> Next Q: is there a good way to tighten the test loop, preferably by running locally somehow? It's a bit frustrating having to wait for hours/days to see the test results, only to find it's some stupid by-product of my python inexperience.
[23:35] <lazyPower> surely, you can kick off the test against the local provider using bundletester. my preferred method is bundletester -F -l DEBUG -v -e local - you can use any substrate vs CI
[23:36] <lazyPower> standing up quassel + Mysql should be fairly quick on the local provider
[23:36] <blahdeblah> Any doc on the setup required?
[23:37] <lazyPower> https://github.com/juju-solutions/bundletester
[23:37] <blahdeblah> ta
[23:38] <lazyPower> np :)
[23:38] <lazyPower> if you need further clarification on the testing loop with charms, I have a session coming up this week with an ISV
[23:38] <lazyPower> and i see about adding you to it if they are OK with having a third party sit in
[23:39] <blahdeblah> lazyPower: That would be great; I'm in UTC+10, though, so don't make it a big deal if timing is an issue.
[23:39] <lazyPower> Its friday 11-12pm EDT
[23:39] <blahdeblah> thanks again, lazyPower
[23:39] <lazyPower> np blahdeblah, happy to help.
[23:40] <lazyPower> I'll ship an email over to the team and circle back if you're still interested @ the time difference.
[23:40] <lazyPower> s/@/with/
[23:40] <blahdeblah> thanks
[23:40] <blahdeblah> what's the UTC offset of EDT?
[23:41] <lazyPower> 5 hours
[23:41] <lazyPower> UTC Offset: UTC -4:00
[23:42] <lazyPower> forgot, UTC doesn't observe DST
[23:42] <blahdeblah> That's kinda the whole point of UTC. ;-)
[23:42] <lazyPower> its been a long day :D
[23:42] <blahdeblah> :-)
[23:43] <blahdeblah> That time would probably work reasonable well for me
[23:43] <blahdeblah> thanks
[23:43] <lazyPower> np, i'll ping once i've got confirmation
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[06:36] <xubuntu49w> how do you know what version of xubuntu you are running
[07:31] <gnumbknuts> inxi -Fxxx
[13:29] <xubuntu71w> hi everyone; i have an issue with Vino which shows as installed via synaptic PM but not to be found in Applications Menu .On a another distribution with a less recent package it could be found in Applications Menu or executable from urs/sbin but on Xubuntu 14.04 it’s in usr/share and is non execuatble the package is vino 3.8.1-Oboutu1 VNC server for GNOME
[17:06] <tiyteeze> hey, I need help, on my nexus 7 I can not migrate to xubuntu (I am on ubuntu 12.10), can you help me?
[17:19] <xangua> what does a nexus 7 has to do with xubuntu¿
[17:22] <genii> Ubuntu touch does not currently have an Xubuntu port
[17:30] <tiyteeze> I installed it on a nexus 7 with ubuntu installer on nexus 7
[17:30] <tiyteeze> ain't it no comand to download xfce?
[17:32] <xangua> you installed ubuntu touch
[17:32] <tiyteeze> nop
[17:32] <tiyteeze> ubuntu with unity desktop
[17:32] <tiyteeze> and I am not in multi rom
[17:33] <xangua> (12:32:07) tiyteeze: hey, it made a 404 error every time to install xubuntu-dektop on my nexus 7 (ubuntu 12.10) can someone help me? - you are also using an unsupported OS
[17:33] <tiyteeze> am I?
[17:33] <xangua> !12.10
[17:34] <tiyteeze> thanks guys
[17:34] <tiyteeze> and will it run xubuntu 14.04 like on my computer?
[17:36] <xangua> perhaps you should get a conventional computer, or just install it in your computer
[17:37] <tiyteeze> I have installed it on both my computers but I also need it on my nexus 7^
[17:37] <tiyteeze> ^^
[17:37] <tiyteeze> It runs very well on ubuntu but I prefer Xubuntu
[17:38] <tiyteeze> even gimp runs well
[17:56] <genii> Examining the contents of http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid/Contents-armhf.gz shows xubuntu-desktop is in there. ( also utopic and trusty )
[21:40] <xubuntu_> im using xubuntu
[21:41] <optikcypher> for the first time
[21:41] <mrkramps> yeah, happened to me once too
[21:42] <optikcypher> hey if you make a custom mother board an add two network cards cable them together could you loop information if you killed the electronics to it then feed the data wirelessly to another computer
[21:42] <drc> "...but I got better."
[21:43] <drc> optikcypher: This is not the place for such a question...I start with ##hardware.
[22:35] <kopple> hello, is there a way to have my desktop icons' position remembered by XFCE? I'd like them to not end up hidden by my desktop widgets at every boot since they're rearranged automatically
[22:50] <mrkramps> kopple, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfdesktop/+bug/1335492
[22:52] <kopple> mrkramps: thanks
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-uk
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[02:12] <diddledan> this was posted in another room, but https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t42.1790-2/11097880_809151599172890_356111680_n.mp4?oh=ac38253012576f02eef814bfea47586a&oe=552B41B0
[02:33] <ali1234> warburtons bread is the most horrible bread ever
[02:33] <ali1234> and that advert makes them look like neo-nazis
[03:07] <mapps> hi all
[03:12] <diddledan> allo mapps
[03:12] <mapps> oFF TO PRAHA on sunday;D
[03:12] <diddledan> ali1234: aye the bread from warburtons is of the type that I refer to as "blotting paper"
[03:13] <mapps> 19th-26th april:)
[04:23] <MartijnVdS> morningsa
[04:24] <mapps> morning MartijnVdS
[06:51] <knightwise> morning peeps
[06:52] <knightwise> just installing the new stable version of Freya and giving it a go
[06:54] <knightwise> looks pretty good at first sight
[06:56] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:56] <knightwise> yo MooDoo
[06:56] <knightwise> how are you doing :)
[06:57] <MooDoo> hello knightwise yeah i'm ok thanks.
[07:01] <knightwise> installing Freya for the moment . looks very good
[07:01] <knightwise> very mature distro
[07:46] <MooDoo> knightwise: elemental?
[07:48] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:52] <zmoylan-pi> good $time_description *
[07:54] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[07:55] <zmoylan-pi> monday the 13th... should be worse than a friday the 13th which kinda cancel each other out? :-P
[07:55] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[08:15] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:16] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 how are you on this fine day?
[08:16] <davmor2> MooDoo: awake
[08:16] <davmor2> MooDoo: you?
[08:16] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah i'm ok thanks :)
[08:21] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday and happy Scrabble Day! :-D
[08:22] * zmoylan-pi boggles...
[08:22] <MooDoo> howdy JamesTait Oxyphenbutazone that's 1778 points to you
[08:22] <JamesTait> Well played. ;)
[08:23] <davmor2> MooDoo: that's not a word there is an o missing :P
[08:24] <davmor2> Oxypheno, surely
[08:24] <MooDoo> ah shush you
[08:24] <MooDoo> ooo books arriving today forgot about that - sorry totally irrelevant change of subject
[08:26] <davmor2> MooDoo: you're just trying to get away from the fact that the dyslexic knew you spelt a word wrong :P admit it :D
[08:28] <MooDoo> davmor2: cough cough
[08:28] <MooDoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyphenbutazone - nope
[08:28] * zmoylan-pi hands MooDoo a throat lozenge
[08:28] <davmor2> MooDoo: highest score ever was BENZOXYCAMPHORS 1830
[08:29] <MooDoo> damn you google
[08:29] <MooDoo> I will beat you one day morley
[08:29] <MooDoo> :D
[08:30] * zmoylan-pi wonders what the profession of the person who scored that was...
[08:30] <MooDoo> footballer ;)
[08:32] <zmoylan-pi> ah it seems to be the theroretical maximum and didn't happen in a competition...
[09:05] <Myrtti_> time of day
[09:06] <Myrtti> https://youtu.be/r0IZ_TEzg7M I wonder if it'll be available on Linux
[09:07] <MooDoo> looks fun
[09:08] <Myrtti> I can't decide if his accent is intentional or is it like that for real
[09:11] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: professional scrabble players
[09:12] <zmoylan-pi> so a video game version of skanger me banger? :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RlXJCwSjwg
[09:14] <popey> Myrtti: well, it's unity5.. so should be able to
[09:18] <popey> Myrtti: that guy is hilarious
[09:18] <Myrtti> popey: apparently the car is modeled to ridiculous reality
[09:19] <popey> yeah, it looks like it
[09:19] <Myrtti> I don't understand anything of cars but apparently the engine starts to knock if the vents have been assembled wrongly
[09:19] <Myrtti> etc
[09:19] <Myrtti> vents, valves, whathaveyou
[09:19] <Myrtti> needs all the fluids refilled etc
[09:20] <popey> yeah valves.
[09:21] <Myrtti> summer car is a Finnish institution of buying a banger in the spring (preferably with recently renewed car insurance (in Finland it's attached to the car, not the driver) and recent MOT, drive it around and then get it baled once winter is turning in and you'd have to change into winter tyres you don't have and don't want to buy
[09:21] * davmor2 so wants it to be vents now :D
[09:22] <Myrtti> http://www.johannesrojola.com/msc/
[09:24] <davmor2> JamesTait, MooDoo: I wonder if you could cram in floccinaucinihilipilification or pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis :D
[09:24] <willcooke> czajkowski, ping?
[09:24] <JamesTait> davmor2, bless you.
[09:25] <davmor2> I don't think the board is wide enough for either but they are such nice words
[09:29] <popey> Myrtti: he is quite funny
[09:31] <knightwise> boom :)
[09:31] <knightwise> ubuntu phone just arrived
[09:31] <popey> \o/
[09:31] <Myrtti> I think I might have cracked my Nexus 5 screen on the London trip :-|
[09:32] <davmor2> Knightmare: don't install machine vs machine you will lose hours of your life
[09:32] <Myrtti> shoved it too hard into my full handbag
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> ouch, priced a replacement screen?
[09:33] <Myrtti> 75 to 99 with installation
[09:33] <directhex_> that's not so bad, honestly
[09:34] <directhex_> it's a high res screen, and hard to replace
[09:34] <Myrtti> almost went to a place to have it changed while we were in London but someone said that I shouldn't rush into things. Well, that means that I'm now very much not rushing because this certainly is not London where I could have gotten it fixed the same day
[09:35] <directhex_> /o\
[09:35] <directhex_> lots of cobblers do screen repair too
[09:36] <directhex_> it's a transferrable skill! replacing touchscreens is almost exactly the same as nailing heels to shoes
[09:38] <zmoylan-pi> my father a trained cobbler _was_ a dab hand with electrics and electronics in his day...
[09:38] <popey> cobblers
[09:38] <popey> awls
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> i did have a cobbler in train station alter a bag back in 90s to make a compartment for psion 5 to slide into that saved it a few dents and bangs
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> kinda of a holster within the bag
[09:41] <popey> pew pew pew!
[09:49] <MooDoo> why can i picture popey behind a sofa playing cowboys and indians with his kids when he says pew pew pew!
[09:49] <popey> I bought a load of caps for Sams guns
[09:49] <MooDoo> ahem i mean playing starwars lol
[09:50] <MooDoo> popey: the ones in a strip or little red ones?
[09:50] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004RI7ZNQ a thousand shots for 5.50
[09:50] <MooDoo> yup i remember them :D
[09:51] <MooDoo> i remember the brown ones that came in a long strip, you used to rub a stone down a load of them lol
[09:51] <popey> no, the plastic ringsyeah
[09:52] <MooDoo> ah the memories
[09:52] <zmoylan-pi> ah the plastic rings that you cut off the actual caps and put them in guns that fitted onto keyrings. very loud
[09:53] <zmoylan-pi> i still occasionly see the plastic rings caps in discount stores, haven't seen the paper roll caps since early 80s
[09:53] <davmor2> MooDoo: I picture popey playing lazer tag with his kids and his wife walking in and ruining all the fun ala Castle :)
[09:54] <popey> yesterday all the kids in the street were out playing
[09:54] <popey> easter break is cool when it's sunny
[09:54] <popey> there's about 15 kids in our road, and they're all similar ages, and all get on well
[09:54] * davmor2 pictures popey out with them starting the water fight cause that's the way he rolls
[09:54] <zmoylan-pi> when i play ad&d at one group we all use nerf to settle arguments, works well :-)
[09:56] <MooDoo> davmor2: next time there will be a nerf gun outside with a message "Hi, I also have a nurf gun and am hidden in the house, looser cooks tea" ;)
[09:57] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:57] <davmor2> MooDoo: hahahaha
[09:58] <zmoylan-pi> i think i saw that on reddit :-)
[10:09] <czajkowski> willcooke: pong
[10:11] <MooDoo> zmoylan-pi: yeah probably where i got it from, just seemed appropriate.
[10:17] <willcooke> czajkowski, Do you happen to remember the name of that lad who installed Ubuntu on his mates computers at school? I can't find the article anywhere.
[10:31] <diplo> /j #telegram
[10:31] <diplo> Oops :)
[10:40] <czajkowski> willcooke: pm ?
[10:41] <willcooke> czajkowski, thx
[10:46] <czajkowski> popey: willcooke FYI https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ie/2013-December/001366.html
[13:19] <popey> Myrtti: saw this and thought of you https://twitter.com/kartsa82/status/587605750253486080
[13:20] <zmoylan-pi> i saw a moomin dvd on sale yesterday and thought of posting a pic here...
[13:25] <MooDoo> love the moomins
[13:28] <DJones> A friend of mine from Finland is mad on Moomins, her partner must send her at least one picture a day on moomin art/decor/themed cups/knitting patterns etc
[13:33] <brobostigon> any ideas on something like pushbullet/pushover that can push irssi highlights to ubuntu touch?
[14:03] <davmor2> MooDoo: next you'll be saying you like noggin the nog and ivor the engine too ;)
[14:04] <zmoylan-pi> clangers and bagpuss too
[14:33] <MooDoo> davmor2: and others :) fireball xl5, joe 90, terrahawks etc etc
[14:33] <foobarry> i watched bertha the other day
[14:35] <davmor2> MooDoo: battle of the planets, starfleet, thunderbirds, captain scarlet, dungeons and dragons, teenage mutant ninja turtles, transforms, thundercats, he-man, THE MUPPETS and fraggle rock
[14:36] <mapps> is betfair working?
[14:36] <mapps> can someone check
[14:36] <mapps> www.betfair.com
[14:36] <mapps> just timing out for me;/
[14:37] <ali1234> terrahawks was great. you don;t see stuff like this in kids shows any more: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/71/200493485_3768ae3e23.jpg
[14:37] <foobarry> bruce forsyth?
[14:38] <moreati1> mapps: it's down http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.betfair.com
[14:38] <ali1234> http://s.sidereel.com/episodes/159751/featured/28464.jpg
[14:38] <popey> Yeah, I loved Terrahawks
[14:38] <popey> especially the cubes vs balls thing
[14:38] <popey> with Windsor Davies as the voice
[14:39] <ali1234> i had a terrahawks colouring book
[14:39] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZC9B0YJ8W8 nostalgia!
[14:39] <mapps> thanks
[14:40] <Myrtti> Cities:Skylines players might benefit from watching Twitch's best traffic mangler, CleaveTV on http://twitch.tv/cleavetv
[14:40] <mapps> so it isnt my end - last month couldnt get on for a week yet worked for everyone else
[14:40] <Myrtti> I still suck in the game tho
[14:41] <davmor2> popey: MooDoo: you're both of the right age, do you remember Black Hole?
[14:41] <ali1234> you mean disney's the black hole?
[14:42] <davmor2> ali1234: yeap the one with maximillion and old ben
[14:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: yes loved it
[14:42] <MooDoo> vincent
[14:42] <davmor2> popey: the balls in terrahawks video reminded me of it :)
[14:43] <davmor2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5pOiyD4h6E and old ben was the beat up one :)
[14:47] <MooDoo> davmor2: http://www.bugeyedmonster.com/toys/blackhole/blackhole/blowup/334inchall.jpg
[14:47] <MooDoo> davmor2: it was old bob
[14:48] <davmor2> MooDoo: I new it was old and began with b I was close :D
[14:48] <davmor2> Old bobs the name and shootings the game :D
[14:49] <MooDoo> :d
[14:49] <MooDoo> did you look at the photo?
[14:52] <ali1234> does anyone remember a live action show that was like king arthur vs aliens?
[14:54] <bigcalm> o.O
[14:54] <bigcalm> Dungeon Quest?
[14:56] <ali1234> the aliens all wore black leather and had storm troopers with laser guns
[14:56] <ali1234> and king arthur had magic
[14:56] <foobarry> sounds like some pervy geeks dream
[14:57] <ali1234> i think the aliens might have been time travellers
[14:57] <ali1234> would have been on tv around 1984
[14:57] <bigcalm> 70s 80s or 90s?
[14:57] <bigcalm> Okay
[14:57] <ali1234> and it was a british show
[14:58] <bigcalm> http://www.imdb.com/list/ls002724091/
[14:58] <ali1234> it wasn't a kids show
[14:59] <bigcalm> That changes matters a lot
[14:59] <ali1234> well, i mean it wasn't on kids TV
[14:59] <ali1234> it was like doctor who
[14:59] <ali1234> or merlin/atlantis that they show now
[15:00] <foobarry> ah
[15:03] <foobarry> knights of god?
[15:04] <ali1234> yes that could very well be it
[15:05] <foobarry> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_God
[15:05] <ali1234> yes that is definitely it
[15:05] <ali1234> there's a helicopter in the intro
[15:05] <ali1234> i was gonna say i thought there was a helicopter
[15:06] <ali1234> oh look there's the laser gun storm troopers
[15:06] <ali1234> and more black helicopters
[15:07] <foobarry> i never saw it
[15:07] <ali1234> apparently it was only ever shown once
[15:07] <foobarry> i have a lifelong habit of not really watching ITV
[15:07] <foobarry> it was canned due to lameness apparently
[15:07] <mapps> lol
[15:08] <awilkins> Really it was canned because Arthur beats the fascists!
[15:08] <mapps> betfair's down due to a DDOS attack
[15:08] <awilkins> We can't have the proles thinking they can win!
[15:08] <mapps> been down 4 hours!
[15:08] <mapps> paying their 'engineers' and other people fortunes and cant deal with a DDOS attack
[15:08] <mapps> pathetic
[15:09] <foobarry> :-|
[15:09] <foobarry> its very hard to deal with DDOS
[15:09] <mapps> well
[15:09] <mapps> I'm sure the likes of Google/twitter/facebook get targeted..no?
[15:09] <foobarry> because its very similar actually supplying a web service
[15:10] <mapps> not sure what that means
[15:11] <awilkins> Beating DDOS is really only possible if you have a large distributed infrastructure
[15:11] <foobarry> if you have a web service that is popular
[15:12] <foobarry> then it supplies web pages to lots of different people
[15:12] <foobarry> a DDOS is very similar to that
[15:12] <foobarry> the first D in DDOS suggests that there are various/many sources
[15:13] <mapps> ya
[15:21] <mapps> you mean because theyd have multiple servers multiple locations
[15:21] <mapps> i assumed betfair would too
[15:21] <foobarry> yeah sure,
[15:21] <foobarry> but DDOS will eat them all
[15:21] <foobarry> given sufficient capacity
[15:22] <mapps> yea
[15:23] <mapps> theyre trying to claim it's a competitor on twitter
[15:23] <mapps> ;]
[15:26] <foobarry> i have no love for betting companies
[15:26] <mapps> they pay me very well so im happy enough
[15:26] <mapps> only reason i moved ;]
[15:27] <ali1234> is there some large gambling event currently?
[15:27] <ali1234> if i was a betfair competitor i would have ddos'ed them on saturday
[15:27] <mapps> nah
[15:27] <mapps> yea saturdays are our busy day
[15:27] <mapps> like 150 events in play
[15:28] <ali1234> especially when it's the boat race and the grand national
[15:28] <mapps> sometimes on CL days our site goes down due to demand
[15:28] <mapps> the money that comes in every minute is quite shocking
[15:28] <mapps> people refer to work as 'the big green machine' just prints money O_o
[15:32] <diddledan> mapps: can they print some money for me? (without requiring me to gamble) :-p
[15:33] <mapps> ;]
[15:33] <mapps> bit tired today hm
[15:56] <ChunkzZ> what channels are you guys on, on freenode? I'm on 24.
[15:56] <daftykins> some ubuntu, some Kodi... some chat
[15:57] <popey> only 49 now. trimmed down a bit
[15:58] <ChunkzZ> what one's popey ?
[15:58] <popey> wat?
[15:58] <popey> oh, which channels
[15:58] <popey> lots :)
[15:58] <ChunkzZ> pic ?
[15:58] <popey> nah. I'd have to blur some out
[15:59] <daftykins> ChunkzZ: why don't you ask us what you're really after? because asking people what channels they're in isn't exactly... normal.
[15:59] <ChunkzZ> daftykins, I'm not after anything!!!!!!!!
[15:59] <diddledan> plus you can just /whois them
[15:59] <ChunkzZ> popey, okay no worries
[15:59] <daftykins> ooook.
[16:00] <Laney> not on freenode you can't
[16:00] <daftykins> sure you can, depends on those channel modes though
[16:00] <diddledan> oh fair enough, Laney , I just assumed having never tried it
[16:00] <Laney> (by default)
[16:00] <Laney> no, it depends on user mode +i which is on by default
[16:00] <daftykins> oh ok
[16:01] <daftykins> things used to be much different on Quakenet
[16:01] <ChunkzZ> daftykins, you're the 1 who ripped in to me about kodi?
[16:02] <daftykins> i don't have a clue what you mean
[16:03] <ChunkzZ> you were on about some illegal stuff, remmeber now?
[16:03] <ChunkzZ> streaming is illegal etc etc etc or whatever shit you said. :p
[16:03] <ChunkzZ> sorry excuse my French
[16:04] <diddledan> o_O
[16:04] <diddledan> streaming isn't inherently illegal. it's only illegal if you're streaming copyright works that you haven't got license for
[16:04] <daftykins> oh probably, enforcing channel policy in #kodi of not permitting illegal addons or repos to be spoken of
[16:05] <daftykins> well regardless of if that was me, another channel isn't the place to discuss that.
[16:05] <diddledan> o...k...
[16:06] <diddledan> guess he didn't like the answer?
[16:06] <ChunkzZ> daftykins, diddledan https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-group-admits-streaming-movies-isnt-illegal-130624/ that is all see ya
[16:07] <daftykins> sadly #kodi attracts a lot of idiots who aren't even aware of what they're being told not to discuss, so they start throwing out links like the above that are trying to justify their actions... when the main issue is simply that in #kodi the naughty repos and add-ons are off topic :)
[16:08] <daftykins> unfortunately a lot of people out there make money by loading up little devices with these copyright infringing addons then sell them with Kodi as their base, which then make them come to #kodi when something doesn't work
[16:12] <directhex_> bloody teenagers
[16:12] <popey> s/teenagers/people/
[16:15] <awilkins> Grrarr. Outlook.com is being annoying by refusing to accept mails from my personal domain. Feel I may have spoiled something by defining SPF records.
[16:15] <awilkins> Even when relayed through my DNS provider it's not working
[16:15] <daftykins> outlook.com eh - novel choice 0o
[16:15] <awilkins> It's our work email provider
[16:16] <awilkins> Trying to get my Redmine server to mail things to it
[16:16] <awilkins> I have postfix / dovecot all nicely running on the server
[16:16] <awilkins> It mails things to GMail just fine
[16:16] <awilkins> Even though GMail was initially canning it as spam (switched to my DNS mail relay and it's in my inbox)
[16:17] <diddledan> awilkins: afaicr outlook andpreviously hotmail require that you submit your spf details via a webform because microsoft don't trust standards
[16:17] <daftykins> lol
[16:18] <awilkins> *donk*
[16:19] <awilkins> My home IP (where my server is at) is on some evil blocklist they have
[16:19] <awilkins> Got a "sod off" message from their server
[16:20] <bashrc_> I have the same issue
[16:20] <bashrc_> some domains won't accept email from me because of a spurious IP based blocklist
[16:21] <awilkins> Aha, now they are at least going to my junkbpox
[16:23] <awilkins> A quick mark of them as not-junk and it's going to my inbox
[16:23] <awilkins> HUzzah
[16:24] <awilkins> I don't sync my junkbox to Thunderbird
[16:42] <popey> golly https://twitter.com/unity3d/status/587492191829958656
[16:42] <popey> is the 3ds powerful enough to run unity3d games?
[18:40] <foobarry> does vlc on ubuntu stream to chromecast?
[18:42] <foobarry> maybe ill just plugin hdmi
[18:46] <popey> dont see how it can
[18:47] <davmor2> popey: it does say the new nitendo 3ds
[18:47] <popey> yeah
[18:47] <davmor2> popey: I don't know if that means there is going to be a new one released
[18:48] <popey> a new one was recently announced
[18:49] <davmor2> popey: indeed just looking at it now
[18:49] <ali1234> presumably you still have to jump through all the nintendo licensing hoops though?
[18:49] <popey> I guess
[18:49] <popey> no real "official" indie game scene on nintendo is there?
[18:49] <ali1234> no, only homebrew linux stuff
[18:49] <ali1234> afaik
[18:52] <davmor2> popey: so looking at the spec the new 3ds sounds like a tablet with 2 small screens instead of one large one
[18:53] <ali1234> the old one was too
[18:53] <ali1234> nintendo have been using ARM since the gameboy advance
[19:35] <directhex_> davmor2: your comment on spec is more true than you realise
[19:35] <directhex_> davmor2: the "2ds" cut-price 2d-only 3ds variant is literally a larger lcd with a bunch of it hidden behind plastic, as it's cheaper than 2 separate smaller screens
[19:36] <MartijnVdS> and when it breaks, it's all broken at once!
[21:11] <mapps> phew
[21:11] <mapps> thought id lost my sim
[21:11] <mapps> got a dual sim phone but both are nano phone takes micro..couldnt even order the adapter to gib;/
[21:11] <mapps> waiting for it to arrive in spain#
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[08:45] <chuckboris> hat jemand schon den Kernel 4.0 in Betrieb? Der ist heute fertig!
[08:47] <apollo13> chuckboris: ja und? das ist genauso spannend (oder nicht) wie jedes 3.x release :p
[08:48] <chuckboris> tolle Antwort...ob spannend oder nicht nützt mir nichts.
[08:48] <apollo13> chuckboris: naja, was soll dir nützen? in nem normalen ubuntu release wird der erstmal nicht reinkommen
[08:49] <apollo13> sprich für kernel 4.0 sachen bist hier falsch, eher ubuntu-next…
[08:50] <chuckboris> in wie fern wird er nicht aufgenommen? Gibt es irgendwo etwas zum Nachlesen der Gründe dazu?
[08:50] <chuckboris> aber Danke für den Tipp mit next :)
[08:50] <apollo13> er wird schon aufgenommen, aber nicht ins aktuelle release für das es hier support gibt…
[08:50] <apollo13> er kommt möglicherweise in 15.10 oder 16.04
[08:51] <chuckboris> 15.04 auch nicht... hätte ich jetzt nicht gedacht
[08:51] <chuckboris> dann bestimmt 15.10
[08:51] <leszek> neuer kernel bedeutet meist neue Probleme
[08:52] <leszek> deshalb lieber auf 4.0.x warten
[08:53] <chuckboris> Das ist richtig....und daher dachte ich frag mal nach ob Ihn hier jemand in Betrieb hat ;) Gibt ja immer und überall so leutchen die probieren
[08:53] <apollo13> chuckboris: ich kenne die ubuntu policies nicht, aber ich würde in 15.10 auf 3.19 setzen
[08:53] <apollo13> chuckboris: ja ich hab ihn in betrieb, aber das hat dann wohl kaum was mit ubuntu support zu tun -- vor allem wo ich kein ubuntu hab ;)
[08:55] <chuckboris> was Betreibst Du wenn man fragen darf? Debian Variation aber doch sicherlich? oder bist auf Centos etc...Unterwegs
[08:55] <apollo13> och, debian, centos, aix und ein paar ubuntu kisten
[08:55] <leszek> bleeding edge
[08:56] <apollo13> leszek: nennt sich integration testing
[08:56] <dadrc> apollo13 benutzt nur LFS.
[08:56] <apollo13> niemals! :þ
[08:56] <leszek> aix ist vor allen dingen bleeding :P
[08:56] <apollo13> das ist selbst mir zu doof
[08:56] <apollo13> leszek: bleeding auf jeden fall, edge vlt nicht :(
[08:57] <apollo13> nur blute eher ich wenn ich damit was tun muss^^
[09:03] <leszek> :)
[09:04] <apollo13> aber wenn die maschinen mal rennen: aix rockt alles weg, die dinger sind rock solid
[11:03] <k1l> chuckboris: wenn du neue kernel testen willst schau die die mainline kernel an. da ubuntu releases rausbringt und vor dem release einen freeze macht wirds den 4er frühstens in 15.10 geben und somit auch erst danach als backports kernel fürs 14.04er pointrelease
[11:25] <uniX67> gruß an alle. problem: LVM partitionstabelle ist out of order. möchte gerne das problem beheben. erbitte tatkräftige "remote"-unterstützung.
[11:25] <uniX67> bin unsicher ob das problem richtig bestimmt wurde
[11:26] <uniX67> es kann sein dass die diagnose falsch ist
[11:26] <chuckboris> k1l werde ich mal in Betracht ziehen...Danke dir
[11:35] <geser> uniX67: wie hat sich das Problem dargestellt?
[11:37] <uniX67> laptop eingeschalltet. der boot vorgang geriet in einer art schleife.
[11:39] <dadrc> live-cd booten, logs suchen, würd ich vorschlagen
[11:39] <uniX67> dadrc: moment...
[11:46] <uniX67> grundstätzliche frage: muss ich den laptop neu starten, um die logs generiert zu bekommen? oder die, die ich in /var/log sehe, richtig sind? boot.log & dmesg
[11:48] <dadrc> das sind schon die richtigen, wenn du auf die platte gewechselt hast und nicht die vom livesystem anguckst
[11:48] <uniX67> dadrc: welche log ist aussagekräftig genug? gibt es viele...
[11:49] <dadrc> dmesg ist meistens ein guter anfang
[11:49] <dadrc> syslog auch
[11:49] <uniX67> gibt es auch, ja
[11:50] <dadrc> pack die beiden mal in einen pastebin
[11:51] <uniX67> dadrc: 1. syslog
[11:51] <uniX67> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815277/
[11:51] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[11:52] <uniX67> dadrc: 2. boot.log
[11:52] <k1l> die logs vom live system helfen nur nicht. du musst die platte mounten und dort die logs hernehmen.
[11:53] <uniX67> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815292/
[11:53] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[11:57] <uniX67> k1l: ist der HD jetzt nicht gemounted? im nautilus ist er zu sehen?
[11:59] <uniX67> also die live-cd generiet eigene logs.
[11:59] <dadrc> Ja
[11:59] <dadrc> Die sind aber nicht weiter von Interesse
[12:01] <uniX67> dadrc: ich wieß nicht, wie ich die richtigen gereriere. als sudo: mount/dev/sda2?
[12:01] <uniX67> dadrc: sda1=boot
[12:02] <dadrc> uniX67, einfach im Nautilus auf die Platte klicken, dann auf der Platte in var/log wechseln und die Logs von da kopieren
[12:04] <uniX67> dadrc: hab ich. moment. in der reihenfolge:
[12:08] <uniX67> 1.boot.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815346/
[12:08] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:09] <uniX67> 2.1. syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815352/
[12:09] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:11] <uniX67> 2.2 syslog1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815355/
[12:11] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:12] <dadrc> das sieht irgendwie alles sauber aus :/
[12:12] <uniX67> aber was fehlt ist syslog von gestern abend... ca 19 uhr... wo das problem aufgetreten ist
[12:13] <uniX67> frage: wenn ich neustart mache, generiert sich eine neue AKTUELLE syslog?
[12:13] <dadrc> jo
[12:13] <apollo13> wenn er die root partition nicht mountet gibts auch kein syslog
[12:14] <dadrc> guter punkt.
[12:14] <uniX67> also?
[12:14] <dadrc> Wenn er nicht bis dahin kommt …
[12:14] <dadrc> Wie weit kommt er denn?
[12:14] <apollo13> in die busybox gehen und debuggen anfangen
[12:15] <uniX67> busybox?
[12:16] <uniX67> also gestern habe ich nur mitbekommen, dass ERROR bei ... tabelle aufgetretten war. sda... irgendwas...
[12:17] <uniX67> kann man sich diesen bericht anschauen?
[12:17] <apollo13> nein
[12:17] <uniX67> der muss doch irgendwo liegen...
[12:17] <uniX67> :-(
[12:17] <apollo13> ja im memory
[12:17] <uniX67> schad
[12:17] <dadrc> Kann ja nirgends gespeichert werden, weil die Platte nicht will
[12:17] <dadrc> Im Notfall einen "Screenshot" machen, mitm Handy :>
[12:18] <apollo13> aber in der busybox sollte dmesg gehen
[12:18] <uniX67> soll ich vielleicht dmsg anzeigen?
[12:18] <uniX67> dmEsg
[12:19] <uniX67> aber eigentlich schwachsinn
[12:19] <uniX67> oder?
[12:19] <uniX67> wird auch veraltet und nicht aktuell sein
[12:20] <uniX67> apollo13: was ich eine busybox?
[12:20] <uniX67> wo finde ich sie?
[12:21] <apollo13> normalerweise sollte dich das ding bei fehlern reindroppen
[12:21] <apollo13> aber so oder so wennst auf ner livecd bist versuch mal das lvm manuell zu assemblen, wenns da keine fehler gibt bist auf nem guten weg
[12:23] <uniX67> wie assemble ich lvm? kann ich das mit einem befehl anstossen?
[12:24] <apollo13> naja, halt mehr oder weniger pvscan, pvs, vgscan, vgs, vgchange -ay und dann halt mal schaun was da so ist…
[12:24] <apollo13> lies dir aber lieber die manpages zu den dingern durch
[12:26] <uniX67> wo befindet sich der LOST+FOUND verzeichnis?
[12:26] <apollo13> ??
[12:26] <apollo13> was hat das damit zu tun
[12:26] <uniX67> vielleicht wurde dort etwas nutzliches abgelegt?
[12:27] <koegs> uniX67: fängst du wieder an nicht auf die leute zu hören?
[12:27] <apollo13> nein
[12:27] <apollo13> dort wird genau gar nix abgelegt
[12:28] <apollo13> außerdem ist es lost+found (sic)
[12:29] <uniX67> apollo13: dann gehe ich die sachen durch: pvscan, pvs, vgscan, vgs, vgchange -ay
[12:31] <uniX67> apollo13: pvscan http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815444/
[12:31] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:32] <uniX67> apollo13: pvs http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815453/
[12:32] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:34] <uniX67> apollo13: vgscan http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815459/
[12:34] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:35] <uniX67> apollo13: vgs http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815467/
[12:35] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:36] <apollo13> uhm, ich meinte damit nicht dass ich die alle sehen will :þ
[12:36] <apollo13> du sollst dir die anschauen und entsprechend ausführen was nötig ist^^
[12:36] <apollo13> mir reicht wenn du sagst ob nach vgchange -ay alles so ist wie es sein soll
[12:38] <uniX67> apollo13: vgchange -ay http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815505/
[12:38] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:38] <uniX67> aus meiner sicht JA
[12:38] <apollo13> kein grund zu schreien
[12:38] <uniX67> sorry
[12:38] <apollo13> dann mounte dir das system nach /mnt bau das initramfs neu und reboote und schau dann dass du die fehlermeldung mitschreibst/fotografierst
[12:40] <uniX67> system nach /mnt mounten? autsch...
[12:41] <uniX67> gibt es dafür einen befehl?
[12:42] <apollo13> eine ganze reihe
[12:42] <uniX67> :-))
[12:42] <apollo13> so wie zb im wiki zur widerherstellung von grub beschrieben ist
[12:42] <apollo13> aber nachdenken was du tust und nicht einfach blind befehle abtippen
[12:42] <uniX67> ah, da war ich heute..
[12:42] <uniX67> moment
[12:47] <uniX67> apollo13: der beschreibung GRUB soll im MBR derselben Platte - also /dev/sda - installiert werden. bei mir laut fdisk -l ist das nicht der fall.
[12:48] <apollo13> wann hab ich gesagt, dass du grub neu installieren sollst?! außerdem zeigt dir fdisk -l nicht an wo grub installiert ist
[12:49] <uniX67> apollo13: ah, ok.. weiter lesen.. moment
[12:53] <uniX67> apollo13: Methode 5: GRUB wiederherstellen bei Benutzung von LVM - das ist doch bei mir der fall, oder?
[12:53] <apollo13> *sigh*
[12:54] <apollo13> grub interessiert hier aktuell keinen, oder hast du ein problem mit grub?
[12:56] <uniX67> zitat: <apollo13> so wie zb im wiki zur widerherstellung von grub beschrieben ist
[12:56] <apollo13> uniX67: ja, den teil von "system nach /mnt" mounten -- der ist dort auch beschrieben, heißt aber jetzt nicht dass du grub widerherstellen sollst
[12:56] <apollo13> tu doch lesen was ich schreib…
[12:57] <uniX67> ups. momento.
[13:03] <uniX67> apollo13: also die LV einbinden
[13:05] <uniX67> und es gibt 3 davon: /root, /home, /swap
[13:07] <uniX67> mount /dev/mapper/vg-root /mnt/ubuntu/root
[13:07] <uniX67> mount /dev/mapper/vg-home /mnt/ubuntu/home
[13:08] <uniX67> mount /dev/mapper/vg-swap /mnt/ubuntu/swap
[13:09] <uniX67> und
[13:10] <uniX67> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ubuntu/boot
[13:10] <uniX67> boot-partition einbinden
[13:10] <uniX67> ist die vorgehensweise richtig?
[13:20] <DerRaiden> Ich hab da nen kleines problem mit meinem neuen Acer Laptop. Bis vor kurzem hatte ich noch Antergos installiert hier hatte sich nach dem Herunterfahren ddas Gerät abgeschaltet bzw. nach einleiten des Rebootes neugestartet. Jetzt wollte ich mal Ubuntu Mate 15.04 Testen, hier Funktionieren die genannten sachen nicht. Auch Ubuntu Gnome 14.10 zeigt das selbe Symptom. Ein eintrag in grub mit noapic half nicht.
[13:33] <uniX67> apollo13: muss es dabei der schritt vollzogen werden: mkdir /mnt/ubuntu?
[13:34] <uniX67> apollo13: wieso erstelle ich ein mnt/ubuntu verzeicchnis?
[13:46] <uniX67> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815915/
[13:46] <kubine> uniX67: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[13:46] <uniX67> was mache ich bei der GEQUIRRRRLTEN SCHEISSE falsch!!!!
[13:48] <k1l> was sagt denn der wiki artikel zu "mount"?
[13:49] <k1l> ich dachte du wolltest lernen und lesen?
[13:49] <uniX67> welchen artikel sollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll sich den lesen
[13:49] <uniX67> einer sagt grub
[13:49] <k1l> ich zitiere mal wieder aus der wiki seite, die du ja nicht gelesen hast: "Um ein Dateisystem einhängen zu können, muss zuerst ein Einhängepunkt (Mountpunkt) vorhanden sein."
[13:49] <uniX67> und verwiest mich dahi
[13:49] <uniX67> n
[13:50] <uniX67> anderer fragt nach mount
[13:50] <k1l> uniX67: stellst du dich extra so dumm?
[13:50] <uniX67> nein, aber unter support stelle ich mir folgender vor:
[13:50] <k1l> uniX67: du willst doch mount benutzen und hast zu mount eine frage. also guck in die wiki seite (oder in die manpage) von mount.
[13:50] <uniX67> mach 1.
[13:50] <uniX67> mach 2
[13:50] <uniX67> mach 3
[13:51] <k1l> haha
[13:51] <k1l> uniX67: endlich bist du mal ehrlich und sagst, dass du nur einfach befehle hingerotzt haben willst weil du keinen bock auf lernen oder lesen hast.
[13:52] <uniX67> meine fressse .... ein enfaches problem... und die quellerei geht doch schon seit 2 tagen
[13:52] <uniX67> genauso wie mit tor-button
[13:52] <k1l> aber das gibst hier nicht. hier gibts hilfe zur selbsthilfe. du suchst bezahlten support. also nimm geld in die hand und bezahl wen damit er deine arbeit macht
[13:53] <k1l> ganz im ernst: installier einfach ein ubuntu neu. ohne lvm, oder schnickschnack dem die nicht verstehen wirst. einfach ein normales ubuntu.
[13:54] <uniX67> du liegst falsch. ich kenne die denkweise. bezahlten support und der ganze kram. in meine abteilung, die ich jahrelang geleitet habe, war ich mit genau diesem problem konfrontiert.
[13:54] <k1l> und wenn du dann wieder ein cooles howto siehst "hey hier das coole zeug, das brauchst du unbedingt". dann liest du dich erstmal in das thema ein damit du weißt was du da machst. und nicht hinterher rumheulst, dass dein system kaputt ist.
[13:54] <uniX67> besonders IT leute sind da auf dem auge blind
[13:55] <uniX67> gena. sehr wahrscheinlich ist das problem in 15 sec. gelöst, aaaaaaaaaaaber nein...
[13:56] <k1l> uniX67: zahl mir 150euro die stunde und dann bete ich dir vor was du machen musst. sonst arbeite ich weiter und zeige dir den lösungsweg und du musst aber selber einarbeiten. weil du sollst ja beim nächsten mal nicht wieder herkommen müssen sondern wissen wie du das problem löst
[13:56] <uniX67> lies dies, lies das... und vielleicht doch noch dies und jenet....
[13:56] <uniX67> toll
[13:58] <uniX67> klaasse argumetation... was machst du den hier? verdienst du hier geld, oder supportest du? und dann wenn? die jenigen die eigentlich support NICHT brauchen?
[13:58] <uniX67> toll
[13:58] <LetoThe2nd> uniX67: jetzt ist wieder gut, bitte.
[13:58] <uniX67> ich smeiss mich weg
[13:58] <LetoThe2nd> uniX67: offensichtlich ist gerade niemand da, der dir assistieren kann/will/sonstwas.
[13:59] <uniX67> let
[13:59] <LetoThe2nd> uniX67: das tut mir dann leid, aber ist nichts das sich jetzt durch mehr getexte lösen liesse. also, bitte mal durchatmen, und später wieder versuchen. danke.
[13:59] <uniX67> LetoThe2nd: ah, merke ich gerade seit 4 wochen
[14:00] <LetoThe2nd> tut mir leid zu hören, aber es ändert nichts an der lage. wenn hier keiner helfen kann oder will, hast du keinen anspruch darauf. sorry.
[14:03] <uniX67> LetoThe2nd: ich denke Du liegst falsch. ich merke schon, ob jemand nicht hilft, weil er es nicht kann. das kann ich schon unterscheiden von einer perversen art der dezenten hinweisung auf mangelhaftes know-how.
[14:04] <LetoThe2nd> dann tuts mir leid, ich habs cersucht.
[14:04] <Fuchs> *seufz*
[14:04] <Fuchs> uniX67: Du darfst Dich nun mal ein wenig abkuehlen,d raussen
[14:15] <dreamon_> was macht man wenn man gerade keinen Fenstermanager am laufen hat und noch einen Wichtigen Process am laufen hat. Ich hab aus gewohnheit auf minimieren geklickt. Nun ist das Fenster weg, aber es läuft noch im Hintergrund..
[14:18] <LetoThe2nd> für nen shellprozess: reptyr. für gui-krempel, keine ahnung, ausser warten und abschätzen wie "wichtig" der prozess wirklich ist.
[14:19] <DerRaiden> hat keiner ne idee zu meinem roblem? :|
[14:20] <dreamon_> Dumm gelaufen. nur wegen diesem minimieren geklicke.. nicht mal alt+tab geht..
[14:21] <dreamon_> LetoThe2nd, haha.. ich habs gefunden. Nur in der Konsole "unity" eingeben. :)
[14:24] <tm_ebis> oder STRG+ALT+F1 -> einloggen -> Prozess beenden
[14:28] <dreamon_> tm_ebis, Wollte ihn ja nicht beenden.. sondern weiter damit arbeiten.
[14:29] <tm_ebis> dreamon_, achso sorry, dann hatte ich die Frage falsch interpretiert
[15:48] <mnass> moin - http://pastebin.com/uH1P2v93 - Ist die Swap Parition bei mir eingebunden? Der zeigt 0 an bei Gesamt .. das is irgendwie komisch oder?
[15:48] <kubine> mnass: Title: Gesamt Belegt Frei Gemeinsam Puffer Cache Speicher: 16290592 - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[18:08] <dreamon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10817463/ -> Ich werde gerade mit diesen Fehlern tod geschlagen. Kann ich das irgendwie fixen?
[18:08] <kubine> dreamon: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[18:15] <dreamon> habs im griff
[18:33] <DerRaiden> hat hier jemand ahnung von ubuntu mit uefi installieren?
[18:34] <ring0> mnass, vielleicht "swap on". hast du mal hier geguckt? http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Swap#Swap-anlegen
[18:34] <kubine> ring0: Title: Swap › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[18:35] <ring0> DerRaiden, frag einfach. was ist denn das problem?
[18:36] <ring0> DerRaiden, pauschal könnte http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EFI_Bootmanagement für dich interessant sein
[18:36] <DerRaiden> ich habe hier ein acer laptop mit uefi und wollte ubuntu-mate installieren, im legacy modus geht es aber er geht beim herunterfahren nicht aus... im uefi modus habe ich folgende partitionen erstellt:
[18:36] <kubine> ring0: Title: EFI Bootmanagement › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[18:36] <DerRaiden> efi-boot ( hier hat der installer efi files hinterlegt) eine root partition und eine home partition
[18:36] <DerRaiden> auf der root partition hat der installer einen boot ordner erstellt mit grub
[18:37] <DerRaiden> nach der installation und reboot sagt er no disc found
[18:39] <ring0> hm. hast du im bios das bootmedium auf deine platte geändert?
[18:41] <DerRaiden> ich hatte vorher antergos als uefi installiert das lief ohne probleme
[18:41] <DerRaiden> ich kann auch im bios nur uefi an oder aus schalten, und secure mode aus oder an aber das half auch nicht
[18:41] <DerRaiden> ist nur ein insyde bios da geht nicht viel
[18:41] <ring0> kann man da nicht einstellen, wovon gebootet werden soll?
[18:42] <Mundus> Hi,
[18:42] <Mundus> nach dem Anmelden auf Ubuntu 14.04 erhalte ich bei meiner Kennung immer den Hinweis
[18:42] <Mundus> System Program Problems Detect
[18:42] <Mundus> Wie kann ich den Fehler finden und beheben?
[18:42] <DerRaiden> doch das schon
[18:42] <DerRaiden> aber da steht die ssd schon ganz oben
[18:42] <ring0> DerRaiden, bei "no disc found" würde ich auf nämlich auf das dvd-laufwerk tippen
[18:42] <ring0> ach so, na dann :)
[18:43] <DerRaiden> und im boot menü vom efi wird die platte aber nicht angezeigt
[18:43] <DerRaiden> das problem hatte ich bei antergos auch
[18:43] <ring0> das ist komisch
[18:43] <DerRaiden> da hatte ich de platte mit mbr formatiert
[18:43] <DerRaiden> aber bei ubuntu kann man das im installer ja nicht direkt einstellen das er gpt machen soll
[18:44] <ring0> bei manuell partitionieren sollte das auch gehen
[18:44] <DerRaiden> da kann ich nur neue partitionstabelle erstellen, keine auswahl welche art
[18:45] <ring0> welche iso nimmst du denn?
[18:46] <DerRaiden> ubuntu mate 15.04 beta 2 hatte ich genommen
[18:46] <DerRaiden> ich fahre sie gerade nochmal im virtualbox hoch
[18:47] <ring0> bei betas kann es natürlich durchaus sein, dass der installer noch fehlschlägt. aber da wissen die jungs in #ubuntu-de+1 mehr bescheid
[18:49] <DerRaiden> http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3956/5ok6aco4_jpg.htm das rscheint bei Prtitionsauswahl sonstige
[18:49] <kubine> DerRaiden: Title: ubumate.JPG - directupload.net (at www.directupload.net)
[18:50] <ring0> jo, zuerst neue partitionstabelle, dann partitionen hinzufügen
[18:50] <ring0> bei + - ändern
[18:50] <DerRaiden> jo
[18:51] <DerRaiden> und wenn ich im efi modus hochlade habe ich zwei zusätzliche arten.... efi-boot und bios-boot
[18:51] <DerRaiden> bei ersteller efi boot partition sind die efi files dort drin und grub auf der root partition
[18:53] <DerRaiden> ansonsten würde ich einfach mal austesten wenn ubuntu die partition selbst vor nimmt was er dann alles wie erstellt
[18:56] <ring0> hab mal nachgeguckt
[18:56] <ring0> ich hab eine bios-boot
[18:57] <ring0> dann wird auch entsprechend ein gpt erstellt
[18:57] <DerRaiden> und wofür ist die efi-boot
[19:00] <ring0> wenn man statt der alten bios methode efi nutzen will. z.b. mit secure boot
[19:00] <ring0> ist hier eigentlich ganz gut erklärt: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EFI_Grundlagen
[19:00] <kubine> ring0: Title: EFI Grundlagen › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:01] <pausiert> hi
[19:02] <pausiert> ich habe ein ubuntu 14.10 frisch installiert und die gesamte festplatte verschlüsselt. beim neustart bleibt der bildschirm nach dem grub schwarz. bis ich auf die linke pfeiltaste drücke und im "terminal modus" das passwort eingebe. nach einem weiteren linkdruck erscheint dann auch die grafische eingabe. ideen warum die nicht automatisch startet?
[19:02] <mnass> ring0, in der fstab war ne falsche UUID eingetragen
[19:03] <mnass> Hat sich alles geklärt
[19:03] <ring0> mnass, hihi
[19:04] <DerRaiden> genau diese dateien werden auch angelegt in /efi/ubuntu
[19:04] <DerRaiden> ich kann dann im bios unter secure boot die files auch auswählen aber ist es denn auch richtig das grub totzdem auf der root partiton liegt und nicht auf der efi partition ?
[19:05] <ring0> DerRaiden, wenn du efi nutzt soll /efi/ angelegt werden ja, sonst nein
[19:05] <DerRaiden> so hatte ich das
[19:05] <DerRaiden> auf der lagen dann die efi files mehr nicht
[19:06] <ring0> grub soll auf die root partiton liegen, sofern du keine separate /boot partition hast
[19:06] <DerRaiden> so war das auch
[19:06] <DerRaiden> wenn ich die efi partition anlege müsste er ja dann auch gpt tabelle erstellen
[19:07] <ring0> wieso nimmst du nicht bios-boot einfach?
[19:09] <DerRaiden> ist bios-boot denn auch für efi?
[19:09] <ring0> du hast den artikel nicht gelesen, ne? ;)
[19:11] <DerRaiden> doch mom
[19:11] <DerRaiden> ^^
[19:11] <DerRaiden> vlt zu schnell
[19:12] <ring0> es gibt auch eine ganze themenseite dazu: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EFI_Bootmanagement
[19:12] <kubine> ring0: Title: EFI Bootmanagement › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:15] <DerRaiden> If Ubuntu is installed on a GPT disk (...) create a BIOS-Boot partition (1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag) at the start of its disk. <- das meinste richtig ?
[19:16] <DerRaiden> die hat mir nämlich gefeht
[19:16] <DerRaiden> gefehlt
[19:17] <ring0> jo. grundsätzlich gibt es zwei modi: 1. im "bios" efi aktiviert (eventuell auch secure boot), dann nimmst du die efi-boot
[19:18] <ring0> 2. im "bios" legacy modus gewählt, dann bios-boot mit dem 1 mb freien speicher, den du gerade gefunden hast ;)
[19:18] <DerRaiden> erste modi funzt bei mir aber nicht
[19:19] <DerRaiden> da sagt er ja wie gesagt no disc found
[19:19] <DerRaiden> uefi aktiviert mit secure boot
[19:20] <ring0> wenn du unbedingt efi nutzen willst, auf zu http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EFI_Installieren
[19:20] <kubine> ring0: Title: EFI Installieren › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:20] <ring0> ich würde aber einfach efi im legacy oder aus nutzen, und modus 2 wählen
[19:22] <DerRaiden> da ist mein problem das das acer teil nach herunterfahren nicht abschaltet oder er beim reboot sich aufhängt...... ich hab auch schon acpi=off und noapic im grub eingetragen brachte beides nichts, im englischen channel sagten se dann das einer es mit efi lösen konnte das problem
[19:23] <DerRaiden> ein etwas blödes problem was ich damit halt habe
[19:24] <ring0> naja, ich glaub da ist irgendwo ein fehler in deiner konfiguration. wenn du sauber modus 1 oder modus 2 nimmst, geht beides
[19:25] <DerRaiden> ich probiers morgen nochmal aus hab das gerät jetzt leider auch nicht hier zum weiter testen, aber ich danke dir trotzdem für die mühe
[19:25] <ring0> gerne
[19:26] <DerRaiden> wenigstens der usb stick bootet im efi modus mit gp tabelle ^^
[19:27] <ring0> Mundus, guck mal in /var/crash. da sollten die logfiles sein. zuständig dafür ist http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Apport
[19:27] <kubine> ring0: Title: Apport › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:30] <Mundus> ring0: Danke.
[19:31] <Mundus> Wie kann ich das Programm bzw. die Fehlerursache erkennen? Den kompletten Bericht zu pastebin ist wohl kaum zielführend, oder?
[19:32] <ring0> wenn da nix persönliches drin ist, kannst du das doch mal pasten. vielleicht erkennt es jemand
[19:41] <Mundus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10818001/
[19:41] <kubine> Mundus: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[19:45] <ring0> ja, der unity-greeter hat da einen fehler bei dir wohl. das ist das fenster bei unity, bei dem du dich beim start mit user und passwort anmeldest
[19:46] <kitikonti> hi
[19:46] <ring0> Mundus, läuft denn die anmeldung an sich?
[19:47] <Mundus> ring0: Die Anmeldung läuft aus meiner Sicht problemlos.
[19:48] <Mundus> Der Hinweis erscheint auch nur bei meiner Nutzerkennung, also alle anderen Nutzer erhalten keine Fehlermeldung.
[19:48] <kitikonti> ich wollte mit vagrant einen ubuntu server aufsetzen, der host ist ein mac, und die virtualisierung laeuft ueber virtualbox. aufgrund der schlechten performance von den virtual box shared folder wird ja empfohlen das man nfs verwendet, jedoch laeuft das irgend wie nicht so wie ich moechte
[19:49] <kitikonti> aufgrund von fehlenden berechtigungen kann ich am server in den shared folder so gut wie gar nix machen
[19:49] <stevieh> na, dann gib halt die richtigen berechtigungen.
[19:49] <kitikonti> kann ich auch ned
[19:49] <kitikonti> auch dafuer fehlen mir die berechtigungen
[19:50] <kitikonti> auch nicht wenn ich sudo verwende
[19:50] <stevieh> na, das wird doch eher auf der serverseite sein, oder?
[19:50] <sash_> Machste auch am Host, nicht am Client.
[19:51] <kitikonti> ja sag ich ja, auf der serverseite kann ich nichts in den shared foldern machen
[19:51] <stevieh> ok, reden wir von Mac Seite und Ubuntu Seite. Wo kannst du nix machen?
[19:52] <kitikonti> ubuntu
[19:52] <sash_> Ja, dann kannst du da halt nichts gegen tun. Wenn bspw. der shared Folder read only für das virtualisierte System ist, dann ist das eben so.
[19:52] <stevieh> und wer ist der nfs server?
[19:52] <sash_> Da kannst du aus dem Ubuntu raus nichts gegen machen.
[19:53] <kitikonti> ich vermute mal das der mac der nfs server ist, aber das kann ich nicht genau sagen wie vagrant das macht
[19:54] <stevieh> wer mounted denn was wo?
[19:54] <ring0> Mundus, ok. entweder einen neuen sauberen nutzer anlegen, die daten kopieren oder den fehler ignorieren. kannst die fehlerberichte auch abschalten bei bedarf
[19:55] <ring0> Mundus, falls du den fehler natürlich melden möchtest, kannst du das gerne tun: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Fehler_melden
[19:55] <kubine> ring0: Title: Fehler melden › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:56] <ring0> Mundus, auf launchpad könnte man z.b. auch nach schon vorhandenen fehler bezüglich unity-greeter gucken. oft ist sowas auch schon gemeldet und wird in einer nächsten version gefixt
[19:56] <kitikonti> stevieh hmm das kann ich nicht sagen, das macht vagrant mit virtual box selbst
[19:56] <kitikonti> https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/synced-folders/nfs.html
[19:56] <kubine> kitikonti: Title: NFS - Synced Folders - Vagrant Documentation (at docs.vagrantup.com)
[19:57] <kitikonti> so the server is the mac
[19:58] <stevieh> so isses. Dann musst du das da richtig einstellen. man nfs
[19:58] <stevieh> und das hat mit sashs einwand IMHO nix zu tun.
[20:02] <kitikonti> hmm mir kommt das trotzdem etwas komisch vor, kann mir nicht vorstellen das da alle anderen die vagrant/virtualbox/nfs verwenden da auch solche probleme haben
[20:04] <Mundus> ring0: Ich vermute eher, dass ich bei irgendwelchen "Probier-Aktionen" Einstellungen verstellt habe;). Aber danke für deine Hilfe.
[20:05] <ring0> Mundus, liegt wohl nicht ganz so fern, ja ;)
[20:05] <stevieh> kitikonti: das ist ganz normal. Bei den Computas geht nix ab werk...
[20:06] <kitikonti> stevieh aber grundsaetlich zu nfs, da ich mich damit noch nie befasst habe weil ich bis vor kurzem so und so nur windows hatte, es ist schon moeglich das beide seiten ganz normal in den nfs share arbeiten?
[20:06] <Guest71246> habe mir eine eigene lightdm konfigurationsdatei angelegt, die aber seltsamerweise nicht beachtet wird unter kubuntu
[20:06] <stevieh> kitikonti: ja. eine reine frage der Rechte.
[20:06] <Guest71246> 14.04.2
[20:07] <apollo13> ganz normal und nfs :þ
[20:07] <apollo13> dass ich das in einem satz noch erleben darf
[20:07] <kitikonti> stevieh und wie sieht das auch wenn irgend eine der beiden seiten die besitzer/gruppe der dateien veraendert?
[20:08] <stevieh> dann sollte der nutzer auf der anderen Seite hoffentlich die passenden Rechte haben ;-)
[20:09] <stevieh> keine Sorgen, ich muss auf meinem Kodi die Dateien auch immer rektal weglöschen, weil ichs nicht schnalle :-)
[20:09] <apollo13> wobei das bei nfs eh relativ ist, da es auf die uid geht und das auf beiden seiten ganz andere nutzer sein können
[20:10] <kitikonti> apollo13 ja das ist so und so auch noch ein problem, aber zumindest mit sudo sollte ich ja trotzdem alles aendern koennen
[20:10] <apollo13> meh, NFSv4 verwenden
[20:12] <Anf> Guten Abend, hätte man eine kleine frage, ich hab im Mainboard 4 Sata anschlüsse, davon 2 Schwarze, einen Weißen und einen Blauen, möchte jetzt gerne wissen, welche von den 6GB/s sind, eigendlich sind die Weißen ja immer 6Gb/s und die schwarzen sind meistens immer 3GB/s, aber was ist mit den einen Blauen, kann man das mit Ubuntu und einem Befehl herausfinden? Auf dem Mainboard steht auch nichts unter dem Blauen Anschluss.
[20:13] <stevieh> anschliessen und bonnie laufen lassen?
[20:13] <apollo13> dokumentation lesen :þ
[20:14] <apollo13> außerdem brauchts kein bonnie, smartctl sagt dir schon wie viel der stecker kann und was ausgehandelt wurde
[20:14] <Anf> Ich hab leider die Papiere von dem PC nicht mehr, und auf dem Mainboard steht auch nicht das Modell. Das ist ja das Problem
[20:15] <apollo13> hwinfo sollte dir auch das sagen
[20:15] <Guest71246> Guten Abend, irgendwie wird meine Konfigurationsdatei für Lightdm nicht beachtet?
[20:15] <dasjoe> Anf: "dmidecode -t baseboard" sollte dir das Mainboard nennen können
[20:16] <Anf> hwinfo gibt mir fehler aus
[20:19] <Anf> Ich sehe gerade, das Hardinfo nachinstalliert werden muss, ist das richtig?
[20:19] <mrkramps> Anf, gut möglich
[20:20] <Anf> Ich schau erstmal was mir "sudo lshw -C system " sagt
[20:20] <Anf> gibt mir leider nur den Hersteller raus, was ich ja auch weiß :)
[20:23] <mrkramps> Anf, dmidecode (s.o.) hat auch kein ergebnis gebracht?
[20:23] <dasjoe> Anf: dann kannst du das schonmal ein bisschen eingrenzen. Hersteller + IDs von Chipset + Audiochip + Netzwerkadapter und so mal in Richtung Google werfen
[20:29] <Anf> Habs mit einem Befehl gefunden; Dell 0C2KJT Finde aber nichts bei Googel zu den Anschlüssen :(
[20:30] <stevieh> na, Dell Manuals sollte es aber geben.
[20:31] <Anf> ja klar, aber googel findet nur das Mainboard zum kaufen bei Aliexpress :)
[20:32] <Anf> Hab ne seite gefunden, dort steht alle 4 sind Sata 3GB/s haben aber 3 verschiedene Farben, bisschen unlogisch :)
[20:34] <mrkramps> Anf, muss jetzt nichts heißen, dass die unterschiedliche farben haben
[20:34] <apollo13> ist wohl nen inspiron?
[20:35] <mrkramps> 580?
[20:35] <apollo13> würde ich meinen ja
[20:36] <mrkramps> http://www.manualslib.com/manual/681154/Dell-Inspiron-580.html
[20:36] <kubine> mrkramps: Title: DELL INSPIRON 580 SERVICE MANUAL Pdf Download. (at www.manualslib.com)
[20:36] <Anf> Ja, ein Inspiron 580
[20:36] <apollo13> warum sagste das nicht gleich
[20:38] <Anf> hab gerade erst selber gefunden
[20:38] <Anf> Soll ich mir wirkich die ganze Bedinngsanleitung durschschauen? Blaubt Iht, das es da steht?
[20:38] <apollo13> ich denke nicht, ich würde einfach platte anstecken und mit smartctl schaun^^
[20:41] <mrkramps> die werden alle SATA II mit 3Gb/s sein
[20:42] <dreamon> ich habe es irgendwie geschafft das lightdm/gdm/unity-greeter nicht mehr startet. .. Ich kann mich nicht mehr einloggen.
[20:43] <dreamon> startx bringt die gui. aber ohne Fenstermanager.
[20:43] <k1l> dont use startx
[20:43] <dreamon> k1l, what else.. I have no gui anymore
[20:43] <k1l> wenn du mit startx rumfummelst hast du dir eh schon total viele rechte zernagelt
[20:44] <k1l> starte lightdm (wenn es ein normales ubuntu ist) und schau was er für fehler bringt
[20:45] <dreamon> es passiert gar nix.
[20:45] <dreamon> keine Meldung
[20:45] <Anf> hab smartmontools installiert, aber we kann ichs damit testen?
[20:46] <k1l> dreamon: sudo start lightdm
[20:46] <dreamon> bei gdm seh ich die Uhrzeit, habe aber keine Möglichkeit mit anzumelden.
[20:47] <dreamon> Ok ich reboote
[20:47] <k1l> dreamon: welches ubuntu ist das da genau? welche desktop? welche dm?
[20:47] <dreamon> 14.10 ubuntu cinnamon ..
[20:47] <dreamon> mom ich probier mal kurz
[20:49] <mrkramps> Anf, sudo smartctl -i /dev/sd? # wobei ? dem entsprechend des laufwerks angepasst werden muss
[20:51] <dreamon> k1l, failed to start lightdm -> Ich komm dann in dieses menu wo Low Graphic Mode steht.. und man mit dem gekreuzten mauszeiger rumfährt
[20:52] <k1l> dreamon: also wird der video treiber geladen?
[20:53] <dreamon> y
[20:53] <mrkramps> dreamon, Xorg.0.log?
[20:53] <Anf> SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s) Was meint er damit?
[20:54] <apollo13> dass du 3gb/s verwendest
[20:54] <dreamon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10818405/
[20:54] <kubine> dreamon: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[20:55] <mrkramps> Anf, deine platte aber SATA III könnte
[20:55] <Anf> ok, das ist auch die Platte die im bei Schwarz angeschlossen habe, teste gleich mal mit der Platte die im Weißen Anschluss ist, mal schauen ob die 6GB/s ist :)
[20:55] <k1l> dreamon: [ 105.736] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[20:56] <k1l> dreamon: wo hast du den treiber installiert? vom offiziellen ubuntu repo oder von der nvidia seite oder von nem ppa?
[20:56] <dreamon> k1l, Hmm.. hab mit nvidia eh immer nur probleme gehabt. da es eine hybrid karte ist, hätte ich mit dem Intel auch keine Probleme
[20:57] <dreamon> k1l, Ich hab gar keinen installiert. oder nouvau.. oder wie der heißt..
[20:57] <k1l> welche karte ist es denn genau?
[20:57] <dreamon> lsmod zeigt -> video 20128 2 i915,nouveau
[20:58] <dreamon> NVIDIA Corporation GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev a1)
[20:58] <Anf> Die Platte die im Weißen ist, gibt mir auch das selbe raus? Komisch ich hab gedacht Weiße Anschlüsse währen 6GB/s
[20:58] <mrkramps> Anf, die farben sind nicht allgemeingültig und ggf. herstellerbedingt eingefärbt
[20:58] <bekks> Die Anschlüße sagen eigentlich nur, dass sie bunt sind :)
[20:59] <stevieh> ich würde schon sagen, die blauen sind blauer als die weissen.
[20:59] <mrkramps> dabei sind die in bunt ungerade ports und die in schwatt gerade ports
[20:59] <k1l> dreamon: die sollte locker mit dem normalen treiber arbeiten
[20:59] <mrkramps> aber SATA II sind die alle
[21:00] <Anf> Im Bios hab ich auch nichts gefunden, man kann da auch nichts umstellen, schade, dan kann ich wohl doch keine SSD einbauen
[21:01] <apollo13> Anf: hä?
[21:01] <mrkramps> Anf, tüllich geht da eine SSD rein
[21:01] <dreamon> Ok, ich versuchs mal zu installieren. Sind ja immer noch die gleichen nvidia Treiber VersionsNr. wie unter 14.04
[21:01] <Anf> Ja, aber mit 3GB/s
[21:01] <mrkramps> Anf, ja und?!
[21:01] <apollo13> was glaubst denn du was ne ssd packt :þ
[21:01] <Anf> Hab irgendwo gelesen, das man für SSD 6GB/s braucht
[21:02] <mrkramps> Anf, völliger quatsch
[21:02] <apollo13> 300mb/s ist im regelfall nicht viel unter dem was ne ssd kann (je nach access pattern)
[21:02] <apollo13> aber noch immer nen gewaltiger gewinn über ne hdd
[21:03] <k1l> Anf: selbst bei 3gb/s ist eine ssd noch meilen weit schneller als eine hdd. und das merkt man total am system wenn da eine ssd drin ist.
[21:03] <sash_> Anf: Der Profi nennt das "Schwuppdizität".
[21:03] <sash_> :)
[21:04] <Anf> ok, ich hab nur auf den SSD's 6GB/s gelesen, und hab gedacht, das der Rechner es unterstützen muss, diese 6GB/s
[21:04] <k1l> auf meinem alten dell vostro 1500 hat die ssd den gnadenstoß um jahre nach hinten verschoben. und das ding konnte auch nur 3gb/s
[21:05] <dreamon> k1l, DANKE.. Endlich wieder ein anmelden möglich.. auch wenn cinnamon ständig abstürzt.
[21:07] <mrkramps> Anf, SATA ist abwärtskampatibel
[21:07] <Anf> was soll das den heißen?
[21:07] <mrkramps> Anf, was SATA III kann, kann auch II
[21:08] <k1l> sata 6gb/s in sata3gb/s reingesteckt macht halt einfach nur 3gb/s. sonst klappts aber
[21:09] <Anf> Ja klar, das es klappt, aber ich hab gedacht, wen der Rechner 6GB/s kann, das die SSD schneller währe, das es auch mit 3GB/s klappt ist ja logisch, aber ob es genau so schnell wird?
[21:10] <mrkramps> Anf, der SATA controller schafft eine übertragung von max. 6 Gb/s … das schafft im moment kaum (gar kein?) gerät
[21:10] <k1l> Anf: bleib mal auf dem teppich
[21:11] <k1l> wenn deine kiste überhaupt nur sata3gbs kann, dann ist das immernoch ein höllenritt im vergleich
[21:15] <Anf> ok, das heißt das man mit 3GB/s und einer SSD trotzdem viel schneller ist, als mit HDD
[21:16] <bekks> Man hat weniger Latenz.
[21:16] <bekks> Dadurch hat man mehr IOPS.
[21:16] <k1l> Anf: aber hallo
[21:16] * bekks hat heute ein Windows in VMware auf SSDs betrieben - 725MB/s schreibend :P
[21:16] <bekks> "Ja, man ist schneller."
[21:17] <Anf> und wen man statt dem 3GB/s im PC einen 6GB/s anschluss hat, wäre man noch schneller, oder tut es da nichts mehr viel?
[21:17] <apollo13> bekks: toll was nen iocache alles kann, ne?
[21:18] <k1l> Anf: hätte wäre wenn hilft dir nicht weiter. kauf ne ssd, klopp die in deinen rechner. fertig
[21:18] <Anf> ok, alles klar :)
[21:18] <apollo13> s/kauf ne ssd/kauf ne ordentliche ssd/ :p
[21:19] <bekks> apollo13: Das waren zuviele Daten für den IO Cache. Aber der Großteil ging durch den Cache, ja.
[21:19] <Anf> Ich hab die Samsung 850 Pro 128GB im Auge
[21:20] <Anf> Ist das was Gutes, kann man mit der SSD was falsch machen?
[21:20] <stevieh> ja, man kann sie zu klein kaufen.
[21:22] <Anf> ja, aber für Ubuntu und die Programme, müssten doch 128 GB reichen?
[21:22] <Anf> Ubuntu nimmt doch nur ein paar GB weg und die Programme nehmen doch nicht mehr als 100GB ein
[21:23] <mrkramps> Anf, grundsätzlich reicht das, aber was genau du mit dem gerät machst udn wofür die SSD sonst noch vorteilhaft sein könnte, könnte wir nicht beurteilen
[21:24] <Anf> klar, aber für Ubuntu und die ganzen Programmen müssten die 120 doch reichen, die Daten wie Musik und Bilder usw. speichere ich auf meiner NAS
[21:24] <stevieh> da reicht sogar weniger...
[21:26] <Anf> Gerade meintest Du, das man die SSD zu klein kaufen kann, jetzt reicht sogar noch weniger, was den nun? :)
[21:27] <mrkramps> Anf, gibt eben anwendungsfälle, in denen eine SSD < 128GB sinnvoller sein kann
[21:27] <stevieh> :-)
[21:28] <Anf> ja, war auch scherz, Ihr wustet ja noch nicht, für was ich die einsetzen werde
[21:28] <stevieh> nur mit OS und programmen wirst du schwerlich über 64Gig kommen, aber meine einzige SSD mit 256 Gig war mir dann auch zu eng...
[21:29] <apollo13> mhm, du --si qt-opensource* -> 30 gb :þ
[21:30] <apollo13> irgendwann wirds eng ;)
[21:30] <stevieh> es wird immer eng
[21:30] <Anf> welche Programme hast Du den, das deine 256 mit Ubuntu und Programmen voll ist?
[21:31] <stevieh> ich sagte nicht, mit programmen.
[21:31] <pc-world> wie krieg ich (mehr oder weniger exakte, d. h. nicht df) Partitionsgröße einer Partition in GiB?
[21:32] <apollo13> pc-world: was ist an df nicht exakt?
[21:32] <stevieh> df -h sagt das sehr genau
[21:32] <Anf> ja, wen du da nicht nur Programme und Ubuntu hast klar, da kann auch eine 1TB zu eng werden :)
[21:34] <stevieh> sag ich doch ;-)
[21:34] <stevieh> wobei, die 3 TB reichen jetzt langsam.
[21:35] <Anf> klar, ich hab es falsch verstanden, ich hab gedacht, das du die 256GB SSD mit Ubuntu und Programmen voll bekommen hast :)
[21:35] <Anf> Aber du hast die 3TB nicht als SSD, oder :)
[21:35] <apollo13> dubdidub
[21:35] <apollo13> ist heutzutage auch nimmer soooo teuer
[21:36] <apollo13> aber als datengrab eher sinnlos
[21:36] <stevieh> das besprechen wir jetzt hier nicht weiter ;-)
[21:38] <Anf> klar, für Datengrad eine große SSD fonde ich auch mehr als Sinnlos, zu Teuer und da braucht man doch diese Leistund der SSD nicht wirklich.
[21:38] <pc-world> Wie kann ich die Diskrepanz zwischen LVM- und df-Output rausfinden? http://pastebin.com/vJhXiQhL
[21:38] <kubine> pc-world: Title: $ df -h /dev/mapper/luks- Filesystem - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[21:39] <apollo13> pc-world: ignorieren
[21:43] <apollo13> ich wäre mir nichtmal sicher dass die lv size unbedingt dem useable space entspricht
[21:44] <pc-world> 4 GB für metadaten oder was auch immer wär aber bisschen viel… (Mir geht es drum die Diskrepanz zu verstehen, der "verlorene" Speicher ist mir egal)
[21:52] <apollo13> pc-world: nen overhead von knapp 2% finde ich okay
[21:52] <pc-world> ich seh grad der Unterschied ist ja zwischen LUKS und dem ext4 Filesystem… wie kann LUKS 4GB für nichts verschlingen? Oder stimmt die Ausgabe von df vielleicht doch nicht?
[21:52] <apollo13> luks ist kein fs
[21:53] <apollo13> ext4 schon und braucht inode tables die dir als speicherplatz wegfallen
[21:53] <pc-world> ich mein den Output von lsblk
[21:53] <apollo13> per default alle 128 mb diskspace 2 mb inodes
[21:53] <pc-world> aber inodes gehören ja zum Filesystem, also zeigt df doch nicht die wirkliche Partitionsgröße an?
[21:53] <apollo13> 294000 durch 130 ist dann ja 2261 was 4-5gb wären
[21:54] <apollo13> kA, hab nie darüber nachgedacht, aber meine milchbuben rechnung macht mir zumindest halbwegs sinn :p
[21:55] <apollo13> Specify the size of each inode in bytes. The inode-size value must be a power of 2 larger or equal to 128. The larger the inode-size the more space the inode table will consume, and this reduces the usable space in
[21:55] <apollo13> the filesystem and can also negatively impact performance. It is not possible to change this value after the filesystem is created.
[21:56] <apollo13> pc-world: also ich würde das einfach so hinnehmen, du kannst ja das fs neu erstellen mit anderen inode optionen und schaun ob du das ändern kannst
[22:01] <apollo13> pc-world: https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Disk_Layout#Layout ich würde annehmen dass df die "data blocks" anzeigt
[22:01] <kubine> apollo13: Title: Ext4 Disk Layout - Ext4 (at ext4.wiki.kernel.org)
[22:01] <Anf> Wollte nochmal kurz nachfragen, ich bekomme manchmal diesen Fehler "W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages Hash-Summe stimmt nicht überein" wen ich die Update machen möchte, so wie jetzt gerade eben, wieso kommt dieser Fehler, was ist falsch?
[22:13] <bekks> Die Checksumme des deb Pakets und die Checksumme in der Katalogdatei unterscheiden sich.
[22:13] <bekks> Benutzt du irgendeinen Proxy, z.B. apt-cacher-ng, oder squid oder so?
[22:14] <pc-world> okay, inodes klingt sinnvoll
[22:14] <pc-world> df hat auch einen -i Parameter für Inodes, aber weiß nicht so recht wie man die in Blöcke bzw. Bytes umrechnen könnte
[22:27] <bekks> df -i sagt Dir doch in der ersten Zeile, wie du das umrechnen kannst.
[22:42] <Anf> ich hab kein Proxy oder änliches, aber der Fehler kommt immer ab und zu?
[22:48] <bekks> Das liegt an einer Race Condition auf dem Mirror Server den du nutzt.
[22:49] <Anf> ok, aber wie kann ich es ändern, der server wird doch automatisch benutzt und ausgewählt?
[22:50] <bekks> Der synchronisiert die Dateien von seinem Masterserver. Wenn Du jetzt die Dateien A (deb Paket) und B (Katalogdatei) holst, kann es passieren, dass eine der beiden bereits vom Master übertragen wurde, die andere noch nicht. Dann versuchst du, die andere vom Mirror zu holen, die passt aber noch nicht zur ersten Datei.
[22:50] <bekks> Das kannst du nicht ändern, außer zu warten, z.B. eine Stunde, und dann nochmal ein apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade durchführen.
[22:52] <Anf> wen das so ist, dan liegt es daran das ich die Updates mehrmals am Tag durchführe, um zu gucken, ob es was neues gibt, deswegen reicht die Zeit vielleicht nicht
[22:52] <bekks> Genau.
[22:53] <bekks> Mach das Update einfach max. einmal am Tag.
[22:53] <Anf> ok, alles klar, ich hab nur gedacht, das ich was falsch im system verändert habe, und hab den Fehler Nie bis jetzt verstanden, vielen Dank
[22:53] <mrkramps> und nicht unbedingt nachts
[22:54] <bekks> Gerne :)
[22:55] <bekks> Ich durfte mich wochenlang mit apt-cacher-ng herumschlagen, und feststellen, dass einige externe Quellen Verzögerungen von bis zu 24h haben.
[22:55] <Anf> Sind die Server Nachts am schlafen, oder warum nicht Nachts :)
[22:56] <bekks> Weil die Server nachst selbst syncen.
[22:56] <Anf> ok, alles klar
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2015-04-13-#juju-gui
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[05:57] <rick_h_> lazyPower: yea, ingestion is longer now that it goes through two systems and such.
[05:58] <lazyPower> i thought I was the only one paranoid enough to check IRC at 2am
[05:58] <rick_h_> heh I'm in germany so it's about 6hrs later for me :)
[05:59] <rick_h_> lazyPower: so heads up, team is in EU time this week in case you come hunting for us
[05:59] <lazyPower> Fair enough, and on that note - i'm headed out
[05:59] <rick_h_> night
[05:59] <lazyPower> o/ have a good spring @ nburg
[05:59] <lazyPower> *sprint
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2015-04-13-#cloud-init
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[06:13] <soumi> hey
[06:13] <soumi> i have cloud init issue with centos5 image
[06:13] <soumi> have any one faced it earlier
[06:13] <soumi> ?
[06:15] <soumi> the issue is that, it doesn't add the ssh keys :(.. in console.log.. I get the below logs:
[06:15] <soumi> found data source: DataSourceEc2
[06:15] <soumi> 2015-04-09 09:54:52,315 - cc_ssh.py[WARNING]: applying credentials failed!
[06:15] <soumi> clod-init package I am using is cloud-init-0.6.3-0.12.bzr532.el5
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-nz
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[09:02] <mwhudson> morning
[20:35] <olly> morning
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:35] <jjohansen> \o
[16:35] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:35] <tyhicks> hello
[16:36] * sbeattie waves
[16:37] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:37] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Apr 13 16:37:03 2015 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:37] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:37] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:37] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> hi
[16:37] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:38] <tyhicks> Johan Van de Wauw (johanvdw) provided debdiffs for trusty-vivid for freexl (LP: #1437087)
[16:38] <tyhicks> Thomas Ward (teward) provided a debdiff for utopic for wireshark (LP: #1440202)
[16:38] <tyhicks> Stefan Bader (smb) provided debdiffs for trusty and utopic for xen
[16:38] <tyhicks> Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :)
[16:38] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:39] <tyhicks> jdstrand: I think you're busy right now so we're going to skip ahead to mdeslaur
[16:39] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:39] <mdeslaur> I'm on triage this week
[16:39] <mdeslaur> and I have a half-day off on wednesay
[16:39] <mdeslaur> I just published some tasty and delicious ntp updates
[16:39] <mdeslaur> and I'm currently testing a bunch of libx11-related updates
[16:40] <mdeslaur> I have an embargoed issue to release tomorrow also
[16:40] <mdeslaur> and a few more things to work on after that
[16:40] <mdeslaur> that's about it, sbeattie, you're up
[16:40] <sbeattie> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:41] <sbeattie> I'm trying to review apparmor patches and pull things together for a trusty SRU and 2.9.2 release (to base the python utils in the SRU off of)
[16:42] <tyhicks> very nice
[16:42] <sbeattie> I've also again got gcc pie on my plate
[16:42] <sbeattie> that's the plan for this week. tyhicks?
[16:43] <tyhicks> sbeattie: all that is left for the gcc pie work is to benchmark a number of programs before the next dev release archive opens?
[16:44] <sbeattie> I still want to do a bit more test builds against it to look for build breakages.
[16:44] <sbeattie> (as well as the benchmarking, that is)
[16:45] <tyhicks> sbeattie: ok - those are two pretty important items so let me know if anything unexpected pops up this week
[16:45] <sbeattie> okay
[16:46] <tyhicks> sbeattie: we'll try to find someone else to handle any distractions :)
[16:46] <tyhicks> I'm handling the community role this week
[16:47] <tyhicks> my planned work looks quite a bit like last week
[16:47] <tyhicks> Vivid systemd/sbuild/schroot bugs (LP: #1427264) (LP: #1438942)
[16:47] <tyhicks> Restart work on AppArmor kernel keyring mediation for user data encryption
[16:47] <tyhicks> Send out the patches to fix bug #1430532
[16:47] <tyhicks> I worked on those ^ patches yesterday and I hope to send them out shortly
[16:48] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[16:48] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:48] <jdstrand> tyhicks: fyi, I can give an update
[16:48] <tyhicks> ok
[16:48] <tyhicks> jjohansen: hang on a sec
[16:49] <tyhicks> jdstrand: go ahead :)
[16:49] <jdstrand> I'm sprinting with the ubuntu core team this week
[16:49] <jdstrand> focusing on snappy, specifically seccomp and review tools
[16:49] <jdstrand> I think that is it from me
[16:50] <tyhicks> jdstrand: thanks! no need to stick around here - get back to the sprint :)
[16:50] <tyhicks> jjohansen: go ahead
[16:50] <jdstrand> hehe, thanks! :)
[16:51] <jjohansen> I'll be getting back to apparmor upstream cleanup again this week. I also have some stuff to do to get ready for the monthly apparmor meeting tomorrow, and an embargoed issue
[16:53] <jjohansen> that is it from me sarnold you're up
[16:53] <sarnold> I'm on bug triage this week; I'm working on the python-cryptography MIR; perhaps the conntrac MIR, perhaps the outstanding openstack update tests. I may also do some smallish apparmor patch reviews as focus/attention span permits
[16:54] <sarnold> that's it for me, chrisccoulson?
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> I've got Oxide updates to do this week. I'll also be handling an embargoed issue
[16:55] <chrisccoulson> I'm going to spend some time getting Firefox on precise in shape, ready for the next release in a few weeks
[16:55] <chrisccoulson> other than that, I'll be working though Oxide bugs as usual
[16:56] <tyhicks> chrisccoulson: have you had a chance to get FF building in precise yet? (I don't think you've had much time to work on it)
[16:56] <chrisccoulson> tyhicks, I've got it building fine, but without the hardening flags (hardening-wrapper doesn't work, as the new compiler is installed in /usr/lib/gcc-mozilla/bin/g++)
[16:57] <tyhicks> ah
[16:57] <tyhicks> sounds like nice progress :)
[16:57] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:57] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:58] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:58] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libnids.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/sanlock.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/krb5.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pdns.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:58] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/getmail4.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[17:00] <tyhicks> mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: Thanks!
[17:00] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 17:00:11 2015 UTC.
[17:00] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-04-13-16.37.moin.txt
[17:00] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
[17:00] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks!
[17:00] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks
[17:00] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks!
[20:49] <twiler> Hello?
[20:50] <twiler> Anyone there?
[21:01] <twiler> Hello?
[21:03] <PaulW2U> hello twiler, were you looking for anything in particular?
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-gnome
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[00:48] <penguin1263> how come when i tested gnome shell 3.16 in vmware player the cursor broke
[01:10] <mem11> Hello ubuntu-gnome people. Please read this paste about a weird flow in gdm config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10812680/
[01:29] <darkxst> mem11, we dont set TimedLogin
[01:30] <darkxst> by defaut all setting in custom.conf are commented out
[01:30] <darkxst> penguin1263, not sure it works here
[01:31] <darkxst> missing cursor used to be due to the cursor plugin in settings-deamon but that has moved into mutter/gnome-shell now
[01:57] <mem11> darkxst, so I should post this elsewhere?
[01:58] <darkxst> you must have made the changes
[02:05] <mem11> I'm certain I didn't make such conflicting configs
[02:10] <darkxst> mem11, I am certain that it its disable by default
[02:12] <mem11> I understand that. The described actions are resulting in unintended results though
[02:14] <mem11> I'll try to reproduce this on a fresh VM
[02:27] <darkxst> mem11, auto login is never enabled either (Except on the Live USB/CD session)
[02:28] <darkxst> this is the default settings
[02:28] <darkxst> [daemon]
[02:28] <darkxst> # Uncoment the line below to force the login screen to use Xorg
[02:28] <darkxst> #WaylandEnable=false
[02:28] <darkxst> # Enabling automatic login
[02:28] <darkxst> # AutomaticLoginEnable = true
[02:28] <darkxst> # AutomaticLogin = user1
[02:28] <darkxst> # Enabling timed login
[02:28] <darkxst> # TimedLoginEnable = true
[02:28] <darkxst> # TimedLogin = user1
[02:28] <darkxst> # TimedLoginDelay = 10
[02:49] <mem11> Darn. VM guest without guest additions sucks with Gnome
[02:50] <darkxst> vmware or vbox?
[02:50] <darkxst> mem11, I only use vmware, since vbox in general sucks
[02:51] <mem11> fair point
[02:51] <mem11> using vbox
[02:52] <darkxst> mem11, really, just grab vmware player (free for personal use)
[02:52] <darkxst> all the important bits like graphics drivers are in the mainline kernel
[07:06] <tuchkata> hi
[07:07] <tuchkata> anyone uses GNOME 3.16 with ubuntu?
[07:13] <darkxst> tuchkata, yes, its on gnome3-staging ppa
[07:13] <tuchkata> with which version of Ubuntu do you use it?
[07:13] <tuchkata> 14.10?
[07:13] <darkxst> no 15.04
[07:14] <tuchkata> ok, with beta then
[07:14] <tuchkata> and how is it working
[07:14] <tuchkata> are there any bugs
[07:14] <tuchkata> or at least big bugs
[07:17] <tuchkata> darkxst?
[07:18] <darkxst> tuchkata, I would say 15.04 with stock GNOME is more stable than 14.10
[07:18] <darkxst> 3.16 still has a few annoying issues, but certainly usable
[07:19] <tuchkata> what are the issues ?
[07:21] <tuchkata> because I really like 3.16
[07:21] <tuchkata> and I am pretty used to Ubuntu
[07:21] <tuchkata> and don't want to migrate to Fedora
[07:22] <darkxst> media keys stop working sometimes
[07:22] <tuchkata> thats not a big problem for me
[07:28] <tuchkata> I want to migrate from Mint with Cinammon to Gnome 3.16 again Ubuntu based
[07:28] <tuchkata> then it looks like I will wait 10 more days for Ubuntu 15.04 and then upgrade to Gnome 3.16
[07:33] <darkxst> tuchkata, nothing much will change between then and now as far as 15.04 goes
[07:33] <darkxst> I think 3.16.1 will be released this week though
[07:33] <tuchkata> nice
[07:33] <tuchkata> i will give it a try
[08:04] <mgedmin> are volume up/down/mute considered media keys?
[08:07] <darkxst> ues
[08:07] <darkxst> yes
[08:17] <darkxst> mgedmin, didnt you file that bug??
[08:17] <mgedmin> no, I'm still on 14.10
[08:17] <mgedmin> -ENOTIME
[08:18] <darkxst> must have been someone else then!
[14:47] <r_rios> Help. I just installe chromium and it's crashing when I got to GMail or G+.
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-server
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[00:57] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[00:57] <pr3d4t0r> Trying to recover some data from an HDD with a damaged boot sector. This was installed on an Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS; I have a brand new disk with Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS loaded. From what I gathered yesterday the rest of the disk is fine, only the boot partition is bad. When I plug both to a SATA black port each, GRUB tries to boot the bad, not the good drive.
[00:57] <pr3d4t0r> Good drive is on ata1, bad drive is on ata2. I can't figure out on the ROM set up how to change priorities. The system works fine if only the new HDD is plugged to ata1. Please advise on how to proceed and thanks in advance.
[00:57] <pr3d4t0r> (Intel motherboard, admin access to setup utility and physical access to the mobo if I need to look for jumpers or something else.)
[00:57] <pr3d4t0r> Thanks in advance.
[07:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:56] <krzychu> Hey, I am running kernel 3.2 on my LVS machines. It receives lot of networking traffic and perform lot of nats and other conntrack related work. is it true that in kernel 3.8 there were some modifications in conntrack which makes it performance better?
[08:57] <krzychu> It is ubuntu 12.04 server
[09:04] <OpenTokix> krzychu: is most of the traffic http?
[09:06] <krzychu> OpenTokix, yes
[09:30] <OpenTokix> krzychu: Add your port 80 to the raw NOTRACK target, - since http isnt stateful, there is no point in conntracking it
[10:18] <igalic> hello happy people o/~
[10:22] <igalic> i'm trying to network boot / install a machine, and i'm getting: http://i.imgur.com/9aQFmdz.png
[10:24] <Sling> and with network boot you mean a pxe installer? or netinstall image? or?
[10:30] <Odd_Bloke> A friend of mine is hitting problems using 'service mongodb ...' and '/etc/init.d/mongodb ...'; should the Upstart and SysV stuff play nicely together, or should they stick with one or the other?
[10:35] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: if there's an upstart job, don't call /etc/init.d/ directly.
[10:36] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: safest to use "service" all the time
[10:37] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: there was a bug somewhere to make it less easy to shoot yourself in the foot but I can't find it right now.
[10:37] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: Ack; I think they're running in to problems with new packages but old Chef scripts.
[10:37] <Odd_Bloke> (i.e. the packages use Upstart to start the job, but their Chef scripts are using /etc/init.d/...)
[10:37] <Odd_Bloke> So I'll just tell them to stop that. :p
[10:38] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5/+bug/1273462
[10:57] <igalic> Sling: yes, that's what i mean. i'm pxe booting the netinstaller from the standard iso
[11:07] <igalic> cobbler creates a pxe boot with these two files from the iso: https://gist.github.com/igalic/769087e09c049e225665
[11:15] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: Turns out they're actually using 10gen's packages. *grumble grumble*
[11:58] <igalic> Sling: so, any idea how to fix it? :O
[11:59] <Sling> sorry, $stuff happened and now im going into a meeting-streak
[11:59] <Sling> mondays
[12:01] <igalic> oh noe ._.
[12:40] <igalic> found, and updated this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1302158 not sure it's the exact one i'm hitting.
[15:14] <jamespage> stgraber, hallyn: can you think of any nasty side effects that running irqbalance inside and outside of the container might have?
[15:30] <hallyn_> jamespage: well, they'll step over each other's policy calculations, presumably
[15:31] <hallyn_> or might thrash both trying to force some task (in the container) being on different processors
[15:31] <hallyn_> but i'v enot used irqbalance or looked at the source
[15:33] <rbasak> Would/should irqbalance inside a container actually be able to mess with things anyway?
[15:49] <flipapy> it will be my first server if i install ubuntu server on this hdd, anyone have any tips on starting from scratch? what i need to know? how to go about learning from the beginning?
[15:51] <genii> flipapy: The server guide is a good start. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[15:51] <flipapy> i suppose i just want to elarn about it, how to run one how to set one up as a main hub so i can monitor and protet a few inhouse computers, serve as a main database etc. thanks genii ill check it out
[15:51] <genii> No problemmo
[15:54] <flipapy> im an ave user on pc's install remove softwr noissues, install os, no probs, even a little cli here and there, nothing serious i know, im justwondering given that baseline of an ave user, what do you think my learning curve would be to getting semi profficient, at least for my own purposes, on ubuntu server? is it a general beginners server ? thank you and sorry for the length of this.
[16:03] <flipapy> just realized i better becoem proficient in cli before i runa server. ok well thanks agian, planned on doing that eventually anyway. cool, bye
[16:41] <eagles0513875> hey guys is there a PPA with nagios 4
[16:42] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: did you search launchapd?
[16:42] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: searched google but its not returning me anything of use
[16:42] <pmatulis> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[16:43] <eagles0513875> thanks pmatulis was finding alot on how to install from source
[16:44] <pmatulis> "searched google", that's interesting
[16:45] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: reason im asking this is nagios 3 is rather out dated im aware that i should probably file an upstream debian bug against nagios there and it will find its way into ubuntu
[16:46] <pmatulis> eagles0513875: yep, good idea
[16:46] <eagles0513875> pmatulis: guess im stuck with nagios 3 for now
[16:47] <eagles0513875> not much out there it seems in the way of a ppa sadly
[16:47] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: I wouldn't bet on it, but I think the existence of a /run/cloud-init directory is enough to know that there will be the expected files in it.
[16:47] <eagles0513875> the nagios inc ppa hasnt had activity in 49 weeks from what i can tell
[16:48] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: At least, this is true for the versions in Ubuntu (i.e. precise doesn't have that directory, but trusty onward do).
[16:48] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: but if I'm really quick, I might be able to get in before cloud-init has created it. Eg. on LXC. On a VM maybe not in practise, but I probably shouldn't rely on that behaviour of cloud-init (choosing to order what it does related to starting ssh).
[16:48] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: in any case I'd like a single thing to work in all cases, including LXC where I can get to the filesystem before init has even done anything.
[16:50] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: Ah, good point, I hadn't considered when the directory is created.
[16:50] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: I hadn't either until I started writing to /tmp before the tmp cleaner had done its thing, and wondered where all the files went :)
[16:50] <Odd_Bloke> :D
[17:17] <ikonia> don't file an upstream bug to debian
[17:17] <ikonia> file a bug to Ubuntu and let the ubuntu team push it up steam IF it's a valid bug for upstream
[17:33] <eagles0513875> ikonia: is it no longer the norm to file upstream bugs to get into ubuntu?
[17:33] <eagles0513875> that was what i was always told to file upstream and once upstream gets it updated it trickles its way down into ubuntu
[17:34] <ikonia> eagles0513875: you where never told that
[17:34] <eagles0513875> ikonia: well i will file a bug on launchpad
[17:34] <ikonia> if the bug is with the core package then it will need to go to debian - but are you qualitified to say it is %100 a problem with the debian pacvkage ?
[17:35] <eagles0513875> ill be honest i am not
[17:35] <lucidguy> $11k Supermicro server/storage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10817128/ vs Dell $18k option http://paste.ubuntu.com/10817128/ What would you choose?
[17:35] <ikonia> lucidguy: choose what's best for youi
[17:37] <teward> lucidguy: also use correct pastebin links (they;re identical)
[17:37] <lucidguy> In many ways they are similiar.. I'm looking for opinions. I could use them both. Just wondering if anyone has more experience with these two products in helping me decide.
[17:41] <lucidguy> tweard, sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/10817128/ vs http://paste.ubuntu.com/10817144/
[17:48] <lucidguy> teward, thoughts?
[21:50] <jvwjgames> i am having a problem with apach2
[21:50] <jvwjgames> [Mon Apr 13 15:44:11.558027 2015] [alias:warn] [pid 17435] AH00671: The ScriptAlias directive in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mailman.conf at line 4 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier ScriptAlias.
[21:52] <jvwjgames> nevermind i fixed it
[23:57] <superboot> Hi all. I am looking for a manifest of 10.04.3 server edition. Any hints?
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[02:10] <imgbot> [03:40] <imgbot> [03:40] <imgbot> [08:10] <Mirv> not sure if it makes sense to have meetings this week without jib_el and sil, but today I need to jump towards dentist part 1 anyway now.
[08:10] <Mirv> let's have meetings if there's a specific issue that's worth chatting about in a hangout
[08:11] <ogra_> +1
[08:11] <ogra_> popey, davmor2 ^^^ anything to discuss this morning ?
[08:20] <davmor2> ogra_: not sure what popey's responce was, I'm assuming that the new oxide finally built and is in the image right?
[08:20] <ogra_> davmor2, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/270.changes
[08:22] <davmor2> ogra_: in that case as far as I know we are retesting the web based subsection of the regression suite and once that passes letting you know
[08:24] <popey> ogra_: davmor2 +1
[08:24] <ogra_> is that davmor3 ?
[08:25] <davmor2> ogra_: davmor3 is my evil twin brother you don't want his opinion ;)
[08:52] <popey> xcihelp: (possibly fginther as he last touched it) calc reboot is doing two jenkins jobs per merge. https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-calculator-app/reboot-white-splash-screen/+merge/255912
[08:52] <popey> bah
[08:52] <popey> cihelp: (possibly fginther as he last touched it) calc reboot is doing two jenkins jobs per merge. https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-calculator-app/reboot-white-splash-screen/+merge/255912
[09:45] <dbarth_> trainguards: ping? do you still need an oxide build for ota-3 ?
[09:50] <Mirv> dbarth_: my understanding was that it landed in http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/270.changes
[09:50] <Mirv> and is being tested now
[09:51] <ogra_> was 1.6.2 the one we were waiting for ?
[09:51] * ogra_ isnt up to date with these version numbers
[09:52] <Mirv> ogra_: 1.6.3, you mean?
[09:52] <Mirv> liboxideqtcore0:armhf from 1.6.2-0ubuntu0.14.10.1~ppa1 to 1.6.3-0ubuntu0.14.10.1~ppa1
[09:52] <ogra_> err, yes ;)
[09:56] <dbarth_> 1.6.3 yes, with the viewport zoom fix
[09:56] <dbarth_> Mirv: ok, thanks; just checking in case there was something stuck
[09:58] * ogra_ has recieved the update on sunday morning ... i dont see any ill behavior here
[10:04] <dbarth_> ogra_: the issue was about https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1442458
[10:04] <ogra_> yeah, i know :)
[10:04] <ogra_> i tried a few desktop sites, they all worked fine, no carshes
[10:04] <ogra_> (i didnt try the welcome wizard, thats up to QA)
[11:23] <ogra_> fginther, plars, can either of you explain to me why desktop kernel adt runs happen on krillin devices ?
[11:24] * ogra_ is specifically looking at http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/AutoPkgTest/job/vivid-adt-linux/lastBuild/? on the private jenkins instance ... it says it runs on krillin-08 ?
[11:26] <ogra_> (and why the heck does a one line change in initramfs-tools result in a kernel build from source as test ... )
[12:58] <pmcgowan> morning
[13:03] <seb128> hey pmcgowan
[13:04] <pmcgowan> seb128, hey
[13:04] <pmcgowan> no sil or jibel it seems
[13:05] <ogra_> nope, both off
[13:05] <pmcgowan> who is doing regression testing?
[13:05] <ogra_> pmcgowan, 270 has all the changes
[13:05] <pmcgowan> indeed
[13:05] <ogra_> not sure who in QA does the tests
[13:05] <pmcgowan> rvr, maybe?
[13:05] <ogra_> davmor2, ^^^ ?
[13:06] <pmcgowan> 270 works for me this weekend
[13:06] <ogra_> same here
[13:06] <ogra_> no issues with desktop sites or zooming
[13:06] <popey> ship it!
[13:06] <ogra_> yeah, who needs QA signoff
[13:08] <davmor2> pmcgowan: QA are, jibel is at the sprint not sure yet who will post the results. we are currently re-running anything that is reliant on the browser so far so good, so be back to you shortly
[13:08] <pmcgowan> davmor2, very good
[13:16] <balloons> cihelp, can you check the jenkins jobs for calculator app? It seems both the normal job and the reboot job are running on mp's
[13:16] <balloons> see https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-calculator-app/reboot-white-splash-screen/+merge/255912
[13:18] <ted> rsalveti, Thanks for reviewing the i-sound branch and throwing it into your silo!
[13:26] <Mirv> dbarth_: ^
[13:31] <Mirv> ogra_: could you ack compiz + unity packaging changes? switch to python3 in migration scripts https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-014-2-publish/
[13:31] <bregma> it's just a little ack
[13:32] <ogra_> Mirv, ack ...
[13:33] <Mirv> ack!
[13:49] <dbarth_> Mirv: approved
[13:50] <dbarth_> Mirv: could you also help me reconfig silo 22 (i swapped a branch but there's no reconfig button in the spreadsheet that i can find)
[13:54] <fginther> popey, balloons, I've disabled the calculator-app-reboot jobs
[13:55] <popey> thanks fginther
[13:55] <fginther> popey, sorry for the delay, we're sprinting this week
[13:56] <balloons> fginther, :-)
[13:56] <popey> no worries
[13:59] <fginther> ogra_, desktop kernel adt runs? are you referring to where jenkins is running jobs?
[14:00] <ogra_> fginther, i'm referring to proposed migration ... an upload of initramfs-tools causes a complete source to binary build of the kernel source ... which is totaly pointless and wastes several hours (turnaround time for initramfs-tools used to be a few minutes) ... it also runs completely pointless boot tests on phones now
[14:01] <ogra_> fginther, we need a white/blacklist or some such to not bluntly run such tests on totally unrealted packages
[14:15] <Mirv> dbarth_: note the new reconfig option in the landing tools menu, can you try it?
[14:16] <fginther> ogra_, ok, I see now what you are referring too... initramfs-tools has a reverse dependency on the kernel (which must complete its autopkg test in order to pass). So, I understand your comment now.
[14:16] <ogra_> fginther, riht, i would like us to have a white/blacklist for such special cases where we can permanently override pointless tests
[14:27] <rsalveti> ted: thanks for the fix :-)
[14:50] <sil2100> jibel_: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/ota-3.commitlog <- here's the commitlog, but as I was afraid, we're missing many landing bindings because of the problems with the spreadsheet
[14:52] <sil2100> Mirv: hey! Any problems with landings in teh morning?
[15:02] <jgdx> trainguards, could you please reconfigure silo 6? Thank you.
[15:02] <sil2100> jgdx: on it
[15:02] <jgdx> sil2100, thank you
[15:04] <sil2100> jgdx: done
[15:04] <jgdx> sil2100, rog
[15:08] <jgdx> thank you queuebot, you rock
[15:08] <sil2100> ;)
[15:11] <Mirv> sil2100: nothing special
[15:12] <Mirv> sil2100: good flights? :)
[15:12] <davmor2> sil2100: has become cancel crazed someone slap him back to his senses
[15:13] <sil2100> Mirv: longish, but I survived (no murderous pilots)
[15:14] <Mirv> survival is the most important thing..
[15:15] <sil2100> davmor2: ha, robru is really happy with that change!
[16:06] <om26er> pete-woods, Hi!
[16:25] <om26er> pete-woods, How can I verify fix in bug 1434379 ?
[16:32] <nerochiaro> bfiller_meeting: ok, i will wrap up this one in a way that anyone can pick it up, then discuss with olivier and get on these tomorrow morning
[16:32] <rsalveti> om26er: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10816903/
[16:32] <rsalveti> om26er: this was how it got validated for RTM
[16:35] <om26er> rsalveti, I was planning to ask you incase I didn't get response from Pete :)
[16:52] <om26er> ted, Hi! is bug 1437355 strictly desktop-specific ?
[16:53] <robru> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/ubuntu-settings-components/1390136.laggy-backends/+merge/252754 need this top approved in order to publish
[16:55] <Mirv> indeed
[16:57] <ted> om26er, No, it's device only. It is in the desktop hook.
[16:57] <ted> om26er, Which is the hook used to process desktop files.
[16:58] <om26er> ted, heh, ok. The comment in the spreadsheet made it sound like it was desktop specific.
[17:02] <Saviq> robru, sorries, ACKed
[17:02] <robru> Saviq: thanks
[17:05] <robru> Saviq: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-025-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/unity8_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ so this looks really wrong, is this upload intended to revert version ...320?
[17:46] <om26er> ted, anything else to look for except for the TestPlan ?
[18:34] <rvr> alex-abreu: Besides manual tests, anything special to check for silo 17? (Remove webbkit dependencies)
[18:35] <alex-abreu> rvr, besides webapps & webbrowser tests, nothing really
[18:36] <rvr> alex-abreu: Oookis. Approving it.
[18:52] <robru> dbarth__: alex-abreu: justinmcp: need these MP's top-approved: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-017-2-publish/69/console
[18:53] <alex-abreu> robru, approved them
[18:53] <robru> alex-abreu: thanks
[19:03] <dbarth__> robru: ah, alex-abreu beat me to it :)
[19:06] <robru> dbarth__: thanks for checking!
[19:06] <robru> ted: hey it seems we have 5 free silos now, did you want that vivid+1 one now?
[19:16] <Saviq> robru, this looks wrong indeed, but none of the unity8 MPs touch the changelog...
[19:16] <Saviq> robru, so it must've been the train that messed up the changelog??
[19:24] <robru> Saviq: yikes, i'm not sure how...
[19:26] <robru> Saviq: the only thing I can suggest is to rebuild, but I just checked the timestamps, and the most recent build is newer than when the last release merged to trunk, so I don't know how this situation could have arisen. this kind of thing should only happen if you build a new silo before the previous silo finishes merging.
[19:32] <robru> Saviq: don't rebuild yet, I'll poke at some stuff and see what happens...
[19:33] <Saviq> robru, I just looked at the full diff and at least the contents are correct
[19:33] <popey> 32
[19:34] <popey> bah
[19:34] <Saviq> robru, so at worst I'd rather we publish that and fix changelog manually
[19:35] <robru> Saviq: oh, ok... hmmmm
[19:36] <robru> Saviq: ok, will publish then.
[19:37] <Saviq> tx
[19:37] <robru> Saviq: i'll prep a branch with a fixed changelog that we can merge once that lands
[19:57] <sil2100> jibel: wow, devel image promotion takes like 15 minutes per one image or even more
[22:18] <sil2100> popey: hey!
[22:18] <popey> hello sil2100
[22:18] <sil2100> popey: in case you're still around...
[22:18] <sil2100> popey: we have a problem with calculator!
[22:18] <sil2100> ;)
[22:18] <popey> what?
[22:18] <sil2100> popey: sooo, basically the reboot of a reboot broke all smoketesting, since it has no tests
[22:18] <popey> I specifically raised this before it landed with fginther
[22:19] <popey> because I expected this. He said he'd fixed it.
[22:19] <sil2100> popey: and since smoketesting infrastructure assumes and expects each of the apps to have tests, it's b0rken
[22:19] <sil2100> hm, I still see 4 images without tests along with the newest one
[22:20] <sil2100> popey: anyway, I guess the simplest and best fix would be to add at least one quick almost-dummy test
[22:20] <sil2100> I think we did the same for terminal once
[22:20] <sil2100> popey: could you maybe contact the app developers about that?
[22:21] <popey> le sigh
[22:21] <sil2100> Oh
[22:21] <sil2100> popey: actually!
[22:21] <popey> frustrating given I pre-empted this
[22:21] <sil2100> popey: wait wait, heh... actually jibel said there are tests but they're in a non-standard directory
[22:24] <sil2100> popey: so, hmmm...
[22:25] <popey> bfiller: happy belated birthday
[22:26] <sil2100> popey: so, anyway, for the smoketesting to work we would need the tests/ directory be in the main source directory
[22:27] <sil2100> popey: since otherwise phablet-click-test-setup won't be able to find it
[22:27] <sil2100> popey: it's not smart enough to look for the tests in random directories ;p
[22:27] <popey> sil2100: if someone wants to prepare a merge, I'll take a look and approve now.
[22:29] <sil2100> I'll try looking into that later maybe, would be best for a real app developer to do that since he has better knowledge of why actually all of that is in the /app directory
[22:29] <sil2100> popey: could you forward that to someone if I don't prepare a merge beforehand?
[22:31] <popey> sil2100: would be more helpful if the person who found this issue filed a bug against calculator.
[22:31] <popey> and then we can prioritise it accordingly
[22:35] <sil2100> popey: will do that now
[22:38] <popey> thanks
[22:45] <sil2100> popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1443680
[22:46] <sil2100> popey: as said, tomorrow I might find time to quickly patch-up an MR
[22:46] <popey> uhhhh
[22:46] <popey> calendar?
[22:46] <popey> you said calculator?
[22:46] <sil2100> AaaaaAAh
[22:46] <sil2100> Crraaap
[22:46] <sil2100> Sorry, calculator it was supposed to be
[22:46] <sil2100> Bah
[22:46] * sil2100 is stupid
[22:47] <popey> heh
[22:47] <popey> thanks for filing
[22:47] <sil2100> popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1443680
[22:48] * popey thinks that phablet-click-test-setup shouldn't be this fragile
[22:48] * popey further thinks the entire infra breaking because _one_ app fails is madness cubed.
[22:48] <popey> but we've had this conversation before, the last time this happened.
[22:48] <popey> ..and we'll have it again, the next time.
[22:48] <popey> :(
[22:48] <sil2100> popey: well, I wouldn't say phablet-click-test-setup is too fragile here, I think that the smoketesting infra shouldn't be so stupid
[22:49] <sil2100> So the smoketesting part is the part that's wrong here
[22:49] <popey> Ya.
[22:49] <popey> One we can laugh about over a beer in a few years.
[22:49] <sil2100> But that's a CI project, and they're overloaded with work
[22:49] <sil2100> :|
[22:51] <sil2100> So best way to fix it is to fix it on our side
[23:18] <sil2100> o/
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[00:25] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Linux Kernel 4.0 Features Live Kernel Patching, PS3 Support http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/JXHmsvJWv5A/linux-kernel-4-0-new-features
[05:56] <napsy> jutro
[08:28] <sasa84> ola čikaZ :D
[08:29] <napsy> elow
[08:30] <idioterna> bardan
[08:44] <CrazyLemon> buhdej
[08:45] <slax0r> jutro
[08:45] <dz0ny> dan
[08:46] <dz0ny> and china is having fun times
[08:46] <dz0ny> http://drp.io/XkTp93pi
[08:46] <Seniorita> drp.io - free, fast, private and easy images and files sharing
[08:48] <slax0r> drp.io? derp input/output?
[08:57] <sasa84> ja CrazyLemon...a si že vstal????
[08:58] <sasa84> praise the lord!
[08:58] <CrazyLemon> sasa84 wtf? zakaj pa misliš da obstajajo mobilne naprave? da se lahk sprehajaš z njimi ali da lahko ircaš iz postelje?!?1??!? think gaddemit think!
[08:58] <sasa84> ampak ti si za kompom :\
[08:59] <CrazyLemon> says who?
[09:00] <sasa84> sičniki+šumniki + napaka "?!?1??!?"
[09:00] <sasa84> tako napako te
[09:01] <sasa84> težko nrdiš na fonu :P
[09:01] <CrazyLemon> za razliko od tebe js imam na telefonu slovensko tipkovnico!
[09:01] <jabuk> When I end up doing the demo in front of the client when it was not planned at all http://tclhost.com/vcz3IIK.jpg
[09:01] <sasa84> pfffffff
[09:03] <sasa84> CrazyLemon: bod dec pa priznej, da si že vstal no :P
[09:03] <sasa84> ooo, jst bi še eno kofe
[09:03] <sasa84> zdobersek: kofi?
[09:03] <zdobersek> sasa84: :'/
[09:03] <CrazyLemon> nič ne bom priznal..nič!
[09:03] <zdobersek> sasa84: JA
[09:03] <zdobersek> plz
[09:04] <sasa84> joj, moj zlati fant zdobersek
[09:42] * sasa84 postreže zdobersek s kavico
[10:01] * slax0r wants coffee too
[10:16] <sasa84_> ooo, bogi slax0r
[10:16] <sasa84_> na, še mal je ostal :P
[10:20] <zdobersek> sasa84_: hvala
[10:21] <sasa84_> prego prego zdobersek
[10:21] <zdobersek> si, grande
[10:35] <yang> dz0ny: si tam ?
[10:35] <CrazyLemon> tu zihr ni!
[10:44] <CrazyLemon> http://www.rtvslo.si/slovenija/botrstvo-cez-luknjo-v-stropu-razpeta-plasticna-ponjava/362741
[10:44] <jabuk> my boss when I ask a raise http://i.imgur.com/GZ8UBTh.gif
[10:44] <Seniorita> Botrstvo: Čez luknjo v stropu razpeta plastična ponjava :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[10:44] <Seniorita> »Četrtošolec Nejc: "Sošolci pravijo, da sem čuden, ker nimam veliko denarja, ker imam drugačne zvezke in ker včasih ne morem na kak šolski izlet."«
[10:44] <jabuk> when Windows automatically reboots after an update and all changes weren’t saved http://i.imgur.com/B54K9Gr.gif
[10:56] <slax0r> sasa84_: pa ce bi mi sam zos ulila bi bilo bols k to scanje k ga mamo tukaj
[11:10] <yang> tej sojini jogurti iz Hoferja so pa kar ok
[11:11] <yang> sicer so s cokoladno ali vanlijevo aromo, mas tut natur
[11:12] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1OnDgBNlRU
[11:12] <Seniorita> The EuroDiVision Contest - feat. Angela Merkel, Slavoj Žižek & IMF [RAP NEWS 31] - YouTube
[11:12] <Seniorita> »We've all heard of EuroVision. But there's another song that’s being sung across Europe - the peoples' chants of protest against Europe's austerity measures....«
[11:12] <yang> hmmmm
[11:13] <yang> I'd like to connect with you on Linkedin - Ladislav Troha
[11:13] <yang> kje je pa tale mene najdu...
[11:13] <napsy> a ni to on psiho
[11:13] <napsy> nek wannabe politik
[11:13] <yang> ne vem ce je psiho, morda ima prav v tem kar govori, ampak jaz ne vem za kaj tocno se zavzema
[11:14] <CrazyLemon> a ni to tisti ki je gladovno stavkal nekaj let nazaj? vojak or smth
[11:14] <yang> je tud gladovno stavkal
[11:14] <napsy> mja, mislim da nima vse poslihtan v glavi
[11:18] <Matthai> precej ubrisan tip
[11:18] <Matthai> resen psiho
[11:22] <idioterna> je psiho
[11:22] <idioterna> potrjujem!
[11:22] <idioterna> uradno.
[11:23] <napsy> ma ko sm se mel facebook sm se z njim neki kregu
[11:23] <napsy> ko je hotu za predsednika drzave kandidirat
[11:23] <napsy> cist obseden z levico pa zarotami
[11:24] <CrazyLemon> mogoče je obseden z resnico!
[11:25] <idioterna> nije sasvim citav
[11:27] <zdobersek> napsy doing the dirty work
[11:46] <sasa84_> psiho je :P
[11:58] <zdobersek> wat en psycho
[12:11] <sasa84_> ou jes, še en kofe :D
[12:11] <zdobersek> yes please
[12:15] <sasa84_> oui oui oui
[12:41] <yang> https://www.odesk.com/jobs/Easy-task-Wake-the-morning_~01967d9d2f8e9a535c
[12:41] <Seniorita> Easy task: Wake me up in the morning! - Freelance Job in None - As needed - Less than 10 hrs/week for more than 6 months - oDesk
[12:41] <Seniorita> »I need someone to wake me up every working day at around 9.00 am GMT+2 with a call to my mobile phone. In the (max) 5 minute phone call, you'll need to:- make sure I'm fully awake- ask me questions like "What are your main tasks for today"- read my tasks or reminders for the day (I'll give you access to my calendar)- check if I've logged into Skype while we're on call (to make sure I turned on my computer)Very simple task, 5 minutes of work, 5 day
[12:41] <zdobersek> feckin 1%ers
[12:49] <CrazyLemon> hm.. iz slovenije en
[12:49] <jabuk> how it feels like when speed debugging goes right http://i.imgur.com/nB4tLwM.gif
[12:50] <zdobersek> hm ...
[12:53] <CrazyLemon> https://www.odesk.com/o/jobs/job/_~0162378af5570a8ff0/
[12:53] <Seniorita> Someone Smart to Help Me With Outreach and Social Media - Freelance Job in None - As needed - Less than 10 hrs/week for more than 6 months - oDesk
[12:53] <Seniorita> »Hey there, I need someone to lend a hand with email outreach, communication with partners, social media, etc. on as-needed basis.If you're enthusiastic about building a community around a brand, social media marketing, email marketing, email outreach, driving traffic, generating leads, social media marketing, this is the perfect job for you. You'll be working closely with me and the rest of the team, learning a lot about online marketing along the
[13:04] <sasa84_> miške moje zlate... šibam
[13:04] <sasa84_> lepo vas pozdravljam in želim obilo ... (vstavi po želji)
[13:05] <sasa84_> čafči :D
[13:40] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[13:40] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Sabina Ddumba - Effortless.
[14:50] <CrazyLemon> https://github.com/tdryer/hangups
[14:50] <Seniorita> tdryer/hangups · GitHub
[14:50] <Seniorita> »hangups - the first third-party instant messaging client for Google Hangouts«
[14:59] <CrazyLemon> https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/587430225572601859/photo/1
[14:59] <Seniorita> SpaceX auf Twitter: "Just Read the Instructions on location & ready for tomorrow’s 1st stage landing attempt. http://t.co/tdni53IviI http://t.co/GYeCp0DDc8"
[14:59] <CrazyLemon> T-5h
[15:38] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2567-1: NTP vulnerabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2567-1/
[16:03] <CrazyLemon> http://www.rtvslo.si/lokalne-novice/uspelo-mu-je-shujsati-kar-141-kilogramov/362757
[16:03] <Seniorita> Uspelo mu je shujšati kar 141 kilogramov :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[16:03] <Seniorita> »Ivan Navoj je zagotovo medicinski fenomen. Sam, brez tablet, kirurških posegov in drugih terapij je v dveh letih shujšal neverjetnih 141 kilogramov.«
[16:03] <CrazyLemon> holy sh!t
[16:03] <jabuk> when I review the intern’s code http://i.imgur.com/lfKdmjO.gif
[16:10] <gregorsk> Hola folk, kaj je najboljši iskalnik po lokalnih datotekah za Ubuntu
[16:10] <gregorsk> rabim neki, kar naredi soliden indeks
[16:11] <CrazyLemon> find!
[16:11] <gregorsk> ahm
[16:11] <gregorsk> tudi v pdf ?
[16:12] <gregorsk> vem da sm leta nazaj uporabljal Beagle...
[16:14] <Sky[x]> lp
[16:15] <dz0ny> there is only one
[16:15] <dz0ny> filetracker
[16:15] <gregorsk> filetracker
[16:15] <gregorsk> ok :)
[16:16] <dz0ny> pol mas pa plugine za različne datotek
[16:16] <dz0ny> pa default je nameščen :)
[16:17] <gregorsk> ahm ahm :)
[16:17] <gregorsk> ja problem je samo, da mam jz neko okleščeno verzijo ubuntuja
[16:17] <gregorsk> zdej sm dal dol neki k se imenuje tracker
[16:18] <dz0ny> :D
[16:18] <dz0ny> me too
[16:18] <gregorsk> hehe
[16:18] <gregorsk> matr, pa ne vem sploh kje tole nastavim grrr
[16:19] <dz0ny> .apt tracker-miner-fs
[16:19] <jabuk> tracker-miner-fs {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[16:19] <dz0ny> pol pa nautilus odpreš pa napišeš not
[16:19] <dz0ny> or unity menu
[16:19] <dz0ny> or gnome-search-tool
[16:21] <gregorsk> jeez :( meni mora iskat po pdf -jih
[16:21] <gregorsk> dammit
[16:22] <dz0ny> sej ti išče ffs
[16:22] <dz0ny> i quit
[16:22] <gregorsk> ahm ahm :) ok ok
[16:23] <CrazyLemon> liar..you didnt quit
[16:23] <CrazyLemon> we can see you!
[16:24] <CrazyLemon> to je bil part!
[16:24] <CrazyLemon> ffs!
[16:24] <CrazyLemon> :>
[16:25] <zdobbie> 'ere we go
[16:26] <zdobbie> .yt wiener wiener
[16:26] <jabuk> South Park - Wiener Song HD - Game of Thrones (ena minuta) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjzC2DRgEo4 ♥6,786 ▶1,558,140
[16:35] <zdobbie> kolk Hrvatov
[16:41] <CrazyLemon> kolk
[16:44] <zdobbie> dozens
[16:46] <CrazyLemon> how many dozens?
[16:49] <zdobbie> 0.4
[16:49] <CrazyLemon> thats hardly 'dozens' thats not even a dozen
[16:57] <zdobbie> more like 4 dozenths
[16:57] <zdobbie> or whatevs
[16:58] <zdobbie> anyway, MANY
[17:13] <CrazyLemon> http://www.androidauthority.com/xiaomi-just-sold-2-12-million-smartphones-in-12-hours-599571/
[17:13] <Seniorita> Xiaomi just sold 2.11 million smartphones in 12 hours
[17:13] <Seniorita> »Update:And... it's a Guinness World Record.Original post:Chinese smartphone manufacturer Xiaomi may not be the most prominent device maker in the world, but they're sure trying to change that. At the company's Mi Fan Festival 2015 in celebration of its 5th anniversary, Xiaomi discounted quite a few popular smartphones and accessories in hopes to achieve record-breaking numbers. As it turns out, they did just that.By the end of the 12-hour long f
[17:16] <zdobbie> wat en IDC
[17:38] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2568-1: libx11, libxrender vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2568-1/
[17:55] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny tisto je bil part :p
[17:55] <CrazyLemon> but wb!
[18:31] <upd> https://cryptowat.ch/bitfinex/btcusd/15min weee
[18:31] <Seniorita> Bitfinex Bitcoin/USD live price chart - Cryptowatch
[18:31] <Seniorita> »Live price chart and market data for Bitfinex Bitcoin/USD exchange«
[18:33] <dz0ny> crashing like windows 95
[18:33] <idioterna> eh
[18:33] <idioterna> 225
[18:33] <idioterna> to pa res ni crash
[18:42] <yang> se mi zdi da se je bitcoin ustalil med 200-250
[18:44] <zdobbie> invest today
[18:44] <zdobbie> profit tomorrow
[18:44] <yang> pa tud loto je treba igrat
[18:45] <yang> tm lahk se bolj obogatis
[18:45] <dz0ny> al pa mercator pika kartice :)
[18:45] <yang> hehehe
[18:46] <zdobbie> tus kartica
[18:46] <zdobbie> loh gres se v kino
[18:46] <dz0ny> omv kartica
[18:46] <dz0ny> ti in avto zastonj pijeta
[18:46] <dz0ny> ni boljega
[18:47] <yang> :)
[18:47] <idioterna> http://i.imgur.com/Lx7h1W0.jpg
[18:47] <yang> zdej se bo bencin pocenil spet
[18:48] <zdobbie> bitcard
[18:48] <zdobbie> cer je v bitcoinu prihodnost
[18:48] <zdobbie> your transactions shall be public
[18:48] <idioterna> sej sm vedu da se bo to zgodil k se bojo vsi zacel na strom vozt
[18:48] <idioterna> re:pika
[18:48] <idioterna> https://41.media.tumblr.com/f8d9017b18ae02a4b72ec255ab833a05/tumblr_nmqno0ccyz1s2jikwo1_1280.png
[18:49] <zdobbie> dons sem kupoval v Merkurju, in so me spraseval za kartico
[18:50] <yang> ma
[18:50] <zdobbie> sem mislu, da jo rabim zato, da lahko na gumb pritisnem in dobim 5-90% popusta
[18:50] <yang> rabis v bistvu samo lyoness kartico
[18:50] <yang> pa zbiras od vseh popuste na eno
[18:50] <zdobbie> pa je nisem mel, ampak sem vseen moral(!) prtisnt na gump
[18:50] <zdobbie> gumb
[18:50] <zdobbie> dobu 5%
[18:51] <yang> zdobbie: prodajalka te MORA vprasat
[18:51] <yang> sej te ne sprasuje zato k nima drucga dela
[18:51] <yang> tak je pravilnik
[18:51] <yang> kot te na crpalki prasajo ce bi kupil se milko v akciji pa burek
[18:51] <zdobbie> ma ja
[18:51] <zdobbie> yang: ni vprasala, kr zapovedla
[18:51] <zdobbie> jst pa nisem delu anarhije
[18:51] <yang> sej vsake tolk se kaksen razburi "Kaj me posiljujete s kartico"
[18:52] <idioterna> folk se rad vsaja ja
[18:52] <yang> te kartice in cigareti delajo vrste v trgovinah
[18:52] <idioterna> res ja
[18:52] <zdobbie> jst sem vljudno nelojalen
[18:52] <yang> predno najde prave cigarete je 3 minute
[18:53] <zdobbie> ampak se vedno kupujem povecini v Sparu
[18:53] <idioterna> prepovedat
[18:53] <idioterna> kartice in cigarete
[18:53] <idioterna> avti delajo pa guzvo na cestah
[18:53] <idioterna> prepovedat
[18:53] <idioterna> v blokih so pa narkomani
[18:53] <idioterna> prepovedat.
[18:53] <yang> ce nima pravih cigaret mora zadaj po njih v skladisce
[18:53] <yang> pol cakas tko 7 minut
[18:53] <idioterna> kriminal ja
[18:54] <idioterna> ker ne mors kr odlozit kosarce pa jit ven
[18:54] <yang> aja pa poloznice
[18:54] <yang> se lahko se placuje
[18:54] <yang> tist pa cakas tko enih 10 min
[18:54] <yang> ker nobena ne zna prav z njimi delat "Glej, ne prebere mi, a ti znas"
[18:56] <idioterna> najbols da nehas hodt v trgovino
[18:56] <idioterna> po pravic povedan js druge resitve ne vidm
[18:56] <zdobbie> be the part of the shut-in economy
[18:56] <yang> hodim v hofer, tm so cigareti samopostrezni , poloznic pa nimajo, pa una ma normo kok hitr more skenirat izdelke
[18:57] <zdobbie> a ti kadis?
[18:57] <yang> ne
[18:57] <zdobbie> preprican?
[18:57] <yang> samo pasivno
[18:57] <yang> kadar grem k sosedom
[18:57] <zdobbie> a tak si ti
[18:58] <CrazyLemon> niso ciki samopostrezni
[18:58] <CrazyLemon> oni ti morajo odpret
[18:59] <idioterna> liar
[18:59] <idioterna> skos inhalira od spodnga soseda
[18:59] <idioterna> yang: ce hods v hofer, zakaj pa pol jamras nad stacunami k jih ne obiskujes?
[18:59] <idioterna> za hobi?
[18:59] <yang> sej grem tut vcasih v kako drugo stacuno
[18:59] <idioterna> kej tacga
[19:01] <zdobbie> wat en fallazie
[19:07] <idioterna> js pa skos hodm u cist smesne stacune
[19:07] <idioterna> pa stojim v vrstah
[19:07] <idioterna> pa se ne sekiram
[19:07] <idioterna> zarad mene ce kdo doktorat zagovarja na blagajni
[19:07] <zdobbie> zakaj se pol sekiras glede gnece na cesti?
[19:07] <idioterna> zato k mi trobjo k se mim pelem :)
[19:08] <idioterna> sej men je vseen ce mi trobjo
[19:08] <idioterna> ampak bolnisnica je zravn!
[19:08] <zdobbie> trobji to 'VENGA VENGA'
[19:08] <zdobbie> VENGA IDIOTTA
[19:09] <idioterna> enkrat sta se dve taljanke drle s piranske cerkve dol na uno stran prot strunjanu
[19:09] <idioterna> 'ciao nudista!'
[19:09] <CrazyLemon> a si ti bil nudista?
[19:10] <zdobbie> al je bil se en zraven?
[19:11] <idioterna> jsm vedno nudista
[19:11] <idioterna> tut kdr sm oblecen
[19:13] <yang> idioterna: drugic reci "ciao bella, vienni qua"
[19:14] <idioterna> nocm
[19:14] <idioterna> ni bla pretirano bella
[19:14] <idioterna> redke italjanke so
[19:14] <yang> hmmm
[19:15] <zdobbie> oh no he didn't
[19:16] <idioterna> sej se mi zdi da se mu zdi sumljiv
[19:16] <idioterna> ampak zgleda da ne zna cist dobr povedat kva sm ga usrou :)
[19:16] <yang> s taljani je tko, da mors znat taljansk, drgac se naus nic zmenil
[19:17] <zdobbie> Zizek bi bil dober
[19:17] <idioterna> mogoce s ksnimi starimi cepci
[19:17] <idioterna> mularija cist uredu zna anglesk
[19:18] <yang> ma nc ne znajo
[19:18] <yang> jst sem enkrat bival z enim taljanom k se je 5 let ucil taljansk
[19:18] <yang> pa je sel v zacetni tecaj anglescine
[19:19] <yang> pa pol na koncu tecaja ga prasa anglezinja "how much did you learn" pa pravi "eeeee, cosa?"
[19:19] <idioterna> cudn
[19:19] <idioterna> jsm se pa vse po anglesk zmenu z njimi
[19:19] <yang> jst pa kr po taljansk
[19:19] <zdobbie> yang: a tis primorc?
[19:20] <yang> napol ja
[19:20] <idioterna> en star avtobusar je prsu u lublano
[19:20] <idioterna> taljan
[19:20] <idioterna> pa ni znou anglesk
[19:20] <idioterna> francosk je pa znou
[19:20] <idioterna> tko da sm mu pol po francosk razlozu
[19:20] <idioterna> da je na grad interdit au samedi sol
[19:25] <zdobbie> easy peasy
[19:27] <CrazyLemon> mularija zna angleško? očitno si srečal zelo pametno mularijo
[19:29] <idioterna> https://eternallybored.org/imgs/misc/stare-reklame/
[19:29] <idioterna> se kr hude
[19:29] <Seniorita> Gallery
[19:30] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: ja prov bukovi niso bli no
[19:30] <idioterna> sej jih nism na izpit povabu
[19:30] <idioterna> pac znal so se pogovarjat
[19:34] <upd> https://eternallybored.org/imgs/misc/stare-reklame/Haid%20&%20Neu%203.jpg
[19:34] <upd> MORE
[19:34] <upd> lol
[19:34] <upd> kolk so to stare reklame
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> idioterna ocitno so samo ti ki pridejo v koper malo bl 'bukovi'
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> ker se ne znajo pogovarjat
[19:38] <idioterna> upd: 1920-1930
[19:39] <upd> ql
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> -10!
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> gademit..skozi nos ne morem dihat
[19:45] <idioterna> -10 what
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> 1920-1930
[19:46] <idioterna> aja
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> .yt accountant needed
[19:46] <jabuk> Marc Gatland, Accountant Needed! (nekaj sekund) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gzWOUGoR14 ♥4 ▶1,132
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> ^
[19:49] <yang> klesce za onduliranje https://eternallybored.org/imgs/misc/stare-reklame/Elektroindustrija%201.jpg
[19:51] <yang> moja stara mama je se sivala na tak stroj
[19:52] <yang> jaz se spomnim, da je sivala, ko sem bil se jaz otrok
[19:53] <yang> Bata cevlji se pa niso dost spremenil https://eternallybored.org/imgs/misc/stare-reklame/Bata.jpg
[19:56] <yang> heh https://eternallybored.org/imgs/misc/stare-reklame/Radion%201.jpg
[19:57] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: u so mathy
[20:01] <yang> tole si velja zapomniti, ce boste imeli kdaj tezave z usb kljucki https://s5tech.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1116
[20:03] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ty
[20:03] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie but i'm currently in doubt.. ali naj grem čez svoj budget za kolo ali ne
[20:04] <CrazyLemon> ker sm najdu eno hudo karbonsko kolo
[20:04] <zdobbie> rabljeno?
[20:04] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ja
[20:04] <zdobbie> kolk rabljeno?
[20:04] <CrazyLemon> campa chorus gor.. pa fulcrum racing zero
[20:05] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ne piše koliko rabljeno.. zgleda pa zelo ohranjeno
[20:10] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
[20:10] <Seniorita> SpaceX | Webcast
[20:10] <Seniorita> »SpaceX designs, manufactures and launches advanced rockets and spacecraft..«
[20:10] <CrazyLemon> T-5m
[20:11] <yang> Kaksnbe so kaj vase izkusnje z Medion robo iz Hoferja, ravno berem da je to Nemski Lenovo
[20:12] <dz0ny> t-17m
[20:12] <CrazyLemon> ohišje kot ohišje.. ne izdelujejo procesorja, rama, diska sam sestavijo vse skupaj
[20:12] <dz0ny> sem se ze ustraau
[20:12] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny t-2m je do livestreama :)
[20:12] <zdobbie> https://savetheinternet.eu
[20:12] <Seniorita> Save the Internet - contact your representative today!
[20:12] <Seniorita> »Save the Internet in Europe«
[20:13] <zdobbie> a cmo Soltesa obvestit?
[20:14] <yang> http://catalog.aldi.com/emag/sl_SL/print/Letak_KT16_2015/html5.html#7
[20:14] <Seniorita> Letak_KT16_2015
[20:18] <dz0ny> http://i.imgur.com/v1s1ukG.jpg
[20:18] <CrazyLemon> who she
[20:18] <dz0ny> jessica
[20:18] <dz0ny> how you not know her from true blood
[20:18] <dz0ny> zdej v daredevil igra
[20:19] <CrazyLemon> ker 1. ne gledam true blood
[20:19] <CrazyLemon> 2. nisem gledal daredevila
[20:19] <dz0ny> your loss
[20:19] <CrazyLemon> so..nice boobs?
[20:20] <dz0ny> http://i.imgur.com/RQPLlDa.jpg
[20:20] <dz0ny> ^^ boobs
[20:21] <CrazyLemon> nice ones indeed
[20:21] <zdobbie> look at all the phalluses talking
[20:23] <zdobbie> T-10:00
[20:23] <dz0ny> http://imgur.com/SDCM7U0.jpg
[20:23] <dz0ny> Stana :)
[20:24] <CrazyLemon> a se komu stream ne dela?
[20:24] <dz0ny> works for me
[20:24] <dz0ny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVUCVYRGcUo
[20:24] <Seniorita> SpaceX CRS-6 Launch - YouTube
[20:24] <Seniorita> »After six successful missions to the International Space Station, including five official resupply missions for NASA, SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon spa...«
[20:25] <CrazyLemon> ty
[20:25] <zdobbie> T-8:00
[20:25] <CrazyLemon> ni še
[20:25] <zdobbie> NITROGEN ACS CLOSEOUT STARTING
[20:25] <CrazyLemon> zdaj je
[20:25] <dz0ny> edne bi mogu app anrdit
[20:26] <zdobbie> STAGE 2 FTV MOTIONS
[20:26] <dz0ny> k kaze vse streme hkrati :)
[20:26] <zdobbie> kok bi zmonetiziru?
[20:26] <yang> dz0ny: tehnicno slaba fotka
[20:26] <zdobbie> STAGE 1 HEATERS CLOSING UP
[20:26] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny eden bi mogu k jabuku dodat da pise T-X
[20:26] <CrazyLemon> :D
[20:26] <dz0ny> ja to je na eventih
[20:26] <zdobbie> T-7:00
[20:27] <zdobbie> STAGE 2 HEATERS CLOSING OUT
[20:27] <zdobbie> up, out, whatevz
[20:27] <zdobbie> VEHICLE SWITCHING TO INTERNAL POWER
[20:27] <zdobbie> STAGE 2 HAS STARTED
[20:27] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: rabljen karbonc ... IMO se ne splaca it cez budget
[20:27] <zdobbie> T-6:00
[20:27] <zdobbie> TANKS RESPOglksnghfdshk /slkfg z
[20:28] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ampak je res lep.. pa obroci so hudi, oprema je dobra pa lep je :(
[20:28] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: pa rabljen
[20:28] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: listen to the man
[20:28] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ja.. ampak ce ne bi bil rabljen bi bila cena cca. 5x višja! :)
[20:29] <dz0ny> also cord so premaknil
[20:29] <dz0ny> zanimiv
[20:29] <zdobbie> men je pa stream padu
[20:29] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie edino prav
[20:29] <CrazyLemon> amm dz0ny a bo stream tudi landinga?
[20:29] <CrazyLemon> na read the instructions ?
[20:30] <dz0ny> dunno
[20:30] <dz0ny> abort
[20:30] <dz0ny> meh
[20:30] <zdobbie> neeeee
[20:30] <CrazyLemon> ma jeboga hold
[20:31] <zdobbie> 'weather violation'
[20:31] <CrazyLemon> weather is fine!
[20:31] <CrazyLemon> lej.. white clouds
[20:31] <zdobbie> jutri ob enakem casu pol
[20:31] <CrazyLemon> ja
[20:31] <zdobbie> k
[20:33] <yang> http://www.cd-cc.si/sl/glasba/ nice DB query error
[20:33] <Seniorita> Glasba - Cankarjev Dom
[21:34] <upd> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/13/nsa_back_doors_are_a_bad_idea_give_us_a_front_door_key/
[21:34] <Seniorita> NSA: 'Back doors are a bad idea, give us a FRONT door key' • The Register
[21:34] <Seniorita> »Spooks in still-don't-like-encryption shock«
[22:16] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 19.km SV od KARLOVCA (HRVAŠKA) @14/04/2015 00:06:30 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.65+N,+15.66+E
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-africa
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[07:02] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[07:03] <Kilos> ongolaBoy cyrilb and others ^^
[07:04] <Kilos> kenju254 emk daker R0ok_ ^^
[08:01] <Kilos> hi d4rk-5c0rp
[08:02] <Kilos> wake tunisia ubuntu peeps and get them to join us https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[08:05] <Kilos> hihi elacheche
[08:05] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[08:07] <ongolaBoy> Kilos: hi :)
[08:07] <Kilos> :D
[08:35] <d4rk-5c0rp> hi Kilos
[08:35] <Kilos> hehe just approved your brother
[08:35] <d4rk-5c0rp> hahaha :D
[08:35] <elacheche> Hey guys!
[08:36] <Kilos> we at 5 already
[08:36] <Kilos> hi elacheche
[08:36] <Kilos> looks like there are only 3 ubuntu users in tunisia
[08:37] <Kilos> and one sleeps all the time
[08:43] <elacheche> :)
[08:43] <Kilos> welcome to the team elacheche
[08:50] <elacheche> thx kenju254
[08:50] <elacheche> Kilos, :à
[08:50] <elacheche> :)
[08:50] <Kilos> lol
[10:42] <Padroni> now what?
[10:42] <Kilos> what what?
[12:18] <Private_User> Kilos: hey, the ##ubuntu-za-social channel is getting :( we need more people to create a buzz there so all our ubuntu peeps can also be social
[12:18] <Kilos> lol none seems to even have time to say anything here
[12:18] <spotty> Kilos: By the way, Private_User on freenode told me "Tell Kilos to join ##ubuntu-za-social now" 5 minutes and 10 seconds ago
[12:18] <spotty> Kilos: By the way, Private_User on freenode told me "tell Kilos this channel is becoming sad with number of people declining" 4 minutes and 17 seconds ago
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-vn
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[18:08] <refgl1> room mình có vẻ vắng
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2015-04-13-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[19:52] <cub> Hello folks, long time no see!
[19:54] <DalekSec> Heh, yes it has been. Howdy.
[19:55] <cub> However, after this coming weekend I hope to leave some other responsibilities behind and be able to come back to some ubuntu studio stuff
[20:00] <cub> Just managed to find a bit of time to set up my computer in the new home office again. And to set up my dual monitor with dwm. Good times.
[20:19] <cub> See ya a bit more frequently soon! G'night
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2015-04-13-#juju-dev
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[05:41] <jw4> clear
[05:41] <jw4> :)
[05:54] <jam> hey jw4, are you in the plenary room now?
[06:02] <jw4> jam, I think so
[06:03] <jw4> I'm sitting next to marcoceppi_
[06:03] <jw4> :)
[06:03] <jam> :). Richard Waagner Saal should be plenary. Just saying hi. I'm not in Nuremberg this week, so I figured I'd hang out as much as I can to say hi on IRC
[06:04] <jw4> cool, I'm sorry to miss seeing you jam
[06:05] <jam> same. I was looking forward to it, but my wife also has an important work conference this week, and I won the last time we had a conflict
[06:07] <jam> rick_h_: ping, I'm curious to hear a summary of your Juju API discussion in 2 hrs.
[06:09] <rick_h_> jam: ok
[06:11] <rick_h_> jam: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G0GeXJ2qGpl8xYDOmud20lQwumIoUu47hUR-Sk7H0Ig/edit#heading=h.hkd4am63fnj6 is the notes for the pre-session stuff
[06:11] <jam> rick_h_: thx
[12:13] <mgz> rogpeppe: https://github.com/juju/xml/pull/4
[13:00] <mgz> 'want resolved mode "", got "no-hooks"; still waiting'
[13:05] <mup> Bug #1443432 was opened: 1.23b4 i/o timeout, LXC instances can't talk to state server <cloud-archive> <landscape> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443432>
[13:05] <mup> Bug #1443440 was opened: 1.23-beta4 sporadically fails autotests <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443440>
[13:28] <mgz> mwhudson: I'm wondering if I can remove the workaround for bug 1425788 - but I'm assuming it's basically bug 1381671 so semi-randomly appears?
[13:28] <mup> Bug #1425788: multiple definition of http.HandlerFunc <ci> <gccgo> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Fix Released by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1425788>
[13:28] <mup> Bug #1381671: reboot tests fail to build on gccgo <ci> <gccgo> <patch> <reboot> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Fix Released by gz> <gcc-4.9 (Ubuntu):Invalid> <gccgo-5 (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <gccgo-go (Ubuntu):In Progress by mwhudson> <gcc-4.9 (Ubuntu Trusty):Invalid> <gccgo-5 (Ubuntu
[13:28] <mup> Trusty):Invalid> <gccgo-go (Ubuntu Trusty):New> <gcc-4.9 (Ubuntu Utopic):Invalid> <gccgo-5 (Ubuntu Utopic):Invalid> <gccgo-go (Ubuntu Utopic):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1381671>
[13:28] <mgz> so, just because I'm not hitting it now, probably doesn't mean it's safe to build that file, till we're using a gccgo build with the fix
[13:30] <mwhudson> mgz: sounds plausible
[13:31] <mwhudson> mgz: i think yes
[13:35] <mup> Bug #1443432 changed: 1.23b4 i/o timeout, LXC instances can't talk to state server <cloud-archive> <landscape> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443432>
[14:47] <jw4> marcoceppi_: oi... have a sec?
[14:49] <jw4> marcoceppi_: how do we generate a new charm stub?
[15:00] <davecheney> natefinch: curl https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.linux-amd64.tar.gz | tar xz
[15:01] <davecheney> natefinch: curl https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.linux-amd64.tar.gz | tar -C /usr/local xz
[15:17] <marcoceppi_> jw4: read the docs ;)
[15:32] <mup> Bug #1439535 changed: 1.23-beta websocket incompatibility <api> <deployer> <regression> <juju-core:Invalid> <python-jujuclient:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439535>
[17:14] <mup> Bug #1443541 was opened: juju 1.23b4 vivid panic: runtime error: invalid memory address or nil pointer dereference <openstack> <uosci> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443541>
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-au
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[21:50] <locodir-user> morning
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-touch
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[07:00] <rpadovani> Anyone on vivid has this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/powerd/+bug/1443278
[07:02] <Apacheuk> question: if I'm on my phone how do I report a bug to launchpad... Is ubuntu-bug or similar available?
[07:03] <Apacheuk> Morning by the way
[07:11] <robin-hero> Hi all! Anybody knows what's up wtith the OTA update?
[07:42] <Mirv> robin-hero: I think there's no absolutely final date yet for the next OTA, but hopefully this week...
[07:43] <Mirv> the last I know was that there's one more bug being investigated, but the fix could land today
[07:46] <robin-hero> Mirv: Thanks, I can't wait for the battery life improvments, It is very fustrating that I need to carry my charger everywhere I go :)
[07:50] <Mirv> yeah, the battery life improvements coming look awesome :)
[07:51] <sturmflut-work> Battery life is already not that bad IMO
[07:51] <robin-hero> sturmflut-work: I need to charge my phone everyday.
[07:52] <sturmflut-work> robin-hero: That is absolutely normal compared to every Android phone I ever owned.
[07:52] <sturmflut-work> The last phone I owned that didn't have to be charged every day was a Siemens M35.
[07:53] <robin-hero> sturmflut-work: The battery decreases 3% for me every hour,even nights, when I don't do anything
[07:54] <robin-hero> I tried the -propsed channel, and my phone can operate for 2,5 days with the same usage (1 day for r20).
[07:54] <robin-hero> I think it is much better
[07:54] <juzzlin_> robin-hero: check with e.g. top if there's some process constantly consuming CPU time
[07:55] <robin-hero> juzzlin_: It is normal with the r20 relase... this is why I'm looking forward to the OTA update :)
[07:56] <juzzlin_> yeah, me too :)
[07:59] <Jame> Hello ？ I add a PushClient component in .qml file, and in .apparmor file add "push-notification-client" policy, the PushClient signal an error:qml : GOT ERROR bad auth
[08:01] <Jame> the above error disappear after I add "ubuntu-push-helper" template in .apparmor file,but my application will crash, at the same time report the following information:UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is running, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have rejected the incoming connection, so check its log file
[08:01] <ogra_> sturmflut-work, well, the battery life doesnt even remotely reach the 8 days standby the OTA brings :)
[08:01] <Jame> which hero will hep me ?
[08:02] <ogra_> Jame, wait for aquaruis, he might be able (but is usually rather around in european evenings) ... he wrote https://caxton.herokuapp.com/ and should know a bit about using the notification system
[08:04] <robin-hero> ogra_: do you have a screenshot of this super battery life? :)
[08:05] <ogra_> robin-hero, only some on the way towards that ... the last one was http://i.imgur.com/xq472i3.png ... 43% after 5 days
[08:06] <robin-hero> what a pity :)
[08:07] <ogra_> i sadly hit bug 1442166 which drained the weak battery before i could take a final screenshot
[08:07] <robin-hero> do you know any info about the OTA update? Will it release this week?
[08:08] <ogra_> but if you dont touch the device at all 8-9 days should be easy
[08:08] <ogra_> we hope so
[08:08] <ogra_> there is one nasty bug that still is in verification currently
[08:14] <robin-hero> ogra_: so if this bug will be fix in time, bq should sign-off too, right?
[08:15] <ogra_> right
[08:15] <robin-hero> so I think it is more likely end of the week
[08:20] <Jame> thank ogra_. do you have example about the use of unity-notification? I want to send a notification.
[08:21] <ogra_> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/platform/guides/push-notifications-client-guide/ only this
[08:21] <ogra_> i have never used it myself
[08:22] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday and happy Scrabble Day! :-D
[08:22] <mandel> Elleo, morning! I believed I found bug in osk, imaging the following scenarion. TextField with DoubleValidator (not setting the locale) and an input hint for real numbers. The osk in this cases shows the numberpad, which is correct BUT it does not use the input locale to decide which is the decimals separator
[08:23] <mandel> Elleo, at that point, the user can just use '.' to separate decimals, yet if his locale is french or some other that uses ',' the double validator wont allow him to write decimal numbers
[08:24] <mandel> Elleo, so, osk such check the input locale and change the decimal separator accordingly. I fixed this in my app by setting the double validator to always use "en" as the locale, but it should not be done like that..
[08:28] <Jame> I found example in unity-notifications/examples/interactive-notification.py, and I push it to my device and run this python script, but report error:ImportError: No module named 'pynotify'
[08:29] <Jame> I need to install pynotify module but I do not know how to install
[08:29] <Jame> in my phone
[08:29] <faenil> abeato: morning :) how can I edit the apn file? trying to workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1435776
[08:29] <faenil> I tried editing gprs file, but it gets reset when I disable/enable mobile data
[08:30] <abeato> faenil, you need to stop ofono first
[08:31] <faenil> and then it will keep the changes?
[08:31] <abeato> faenil, yes
[08:31] <faenil> I should have thought about that...great, thanks ;)
[08:32] <abeato> faenil, np, a fix for this should land soon, it was a problem with NM
[08:39] <Elleo> mandel: yeah, that sounds like a bug, could you create a bug report?
[08:39] <mandel> Elleo, if you give me the project I will + add a small example code :)
[08:41] <faenil> abeato: ah ok :) maybe I should just wait for the fix so that I can test the upgrade path and see if it really fixes it
[08:41] <faenil> is there any eta about that?
[08:41] <faenil> is "soon" 1 day or 1 week? :D
[08:42] <Elleo> mandel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-keyboard
[08:42] <abeato> faenil, not sure, but say 1 week... anyway I am thinking that what you need to do is add some random password to your APN, you can do that from the APN editor
[08:43] <abeato> no need to stop ofono/edit manually the gpra file
[08:43] <abeato> *gprs
[08:43] <faenil> I tried that but it didn't work?
[08:44] <abeato> faenil, why? it did not really change the password?
[08:44] <faenil> abeato: it's not possible to switch to the custom apn, the tick doesn't move
[08:45] <abeato> faenil, oh, some APN editor bug :-(
[08:45] <faenil> hehe ;)
[08:45] <abeato> ok, I guess you will have to edit manually the gprs file
[08:45] <faenil> sure, np
[09:01] <faenil> abeato: works \o/
[09:01] <abeato> faenil, :)
[09:16] <mariogrip> YES! I got wifi working!!!
[09:16] <brunch875> Congratulations man!
[09:16] <faenil> congrats :)
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> mariogrip: on wich device
[09:16] <mariogrip> Oneplus one
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> nice
[09:19] <brunch875> I want to be in the utouch mailing list but membership for the ubuntu phone team is necessary. Is there any responsibility involved or can anyone join?
[09:26] <_1_butt> wet
[09:26] <robin-hero> brunch875: anybody can join
[09:27] <brunch875> neato, I'll join right away
[09:27] <_1_butt> anybody?
[09:27] <_1_butt> who speaks English?
[09:27] <_1_butt> and is wet?
[09:27] <_1_butt> nah?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> _1_butt: this is not the channel for dating or whatsoever
[09:28] <brunch875> considering human body is about 65% water and this is an english channel...
[09:28] <_1_butt> then what is this channel for?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> _1_butt: ubuntu touch talk
[09:29] <brunch875> ubuntu is a gnu/linux operating system based on debian
[09:29] <brunch875> touch is because the phone is tactile
[09:29] <_1_butt> wtf
[09:29] <_1_butt> where can I find pretty horny girls?
[09:30] <_1_butt> suggest
[09:30] <brunch875> try the internet/google
[09:30] <brunch875> this is more about software development
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> popey: alive?
[09:30] <popey> of course
[09:30] <_1_butt> Oh I see
[09:30] <popey> _1_butt: stop
[09:30] <_1_butt> I heard this was for casual dating
[09:30] <popey> you can leave now
[09:30] <_1_butt> sorry nerds tc
[09:32] <popey> ogra_: my 64GB microsd card arrived, it's pre-formatted exfat
[09:44] <ogra_> popey, yeah, you need to reformat it as vfat
[09:44] <popey> yeah, did that and discovered a (known) but that it doesn't remount until you remove the card and re-insert
[09:44] <ogra_> i think mandel fixed that for the OTA
[09:45] <brunch875> when is the OTA hitting us?
[09:45] <brunch875> was it this week?
[09:45] <mandel> popey, should have been fixed, yes
[09:45] <brunch875> I can't wait :)
[09:46] <popey> mandel: its fixed in vivid, but is it fixed in rtm?
[09:47] <mandel> popey, it should, since ciborium is the same in both AFAIK
[09:47] <popey> ok
[09:47] <popey> thanks
[09:57] <mandel> popey, is there is any issue let me know, but the app should be a lot better now
[09:57] <popey> I'll try it on my proposed phone
[09:57] <mandel> popey, I nearly re-wrote the entire thing.. and I should find time to make more changes... time.. I need more time :-/
[09:58] <popey> don't we all :)
[10:03] <Saviq> mardy, hey, can you maybe point me as to where I should file a bug about the U1 SSO web login? when I mess up my password, after correcting it, the SSO process doesn't continue but I'm left in the U1 website
[10:44] <AskUbuntu> Turning on auto-expunge emails in Dekko? | http://askubuntu.com/q/608698
[10:48] <Se7> hi guys ubuntu wubi still downlodable?
[10:53] <popey> Se7: Linux User Group goes full circle. From LUG to Hackspace and now LUG in a Hackspace. http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2015-April/081927.html
[10:53] <popey> bah
[10:53] <popey> Se7: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/
[10:53] <mandel> ogra, do you know if ubuntu-device-flash has an argument to pass the serial of the device to flash? similar to adb -s FOO
[10:54] <mandel> oh, not a single -s but --serial, ogra_ ignore me :)
[10:54] <Se7> tnx popey :)
[11:07] <davmor2> popey: Se7: that version of wubi might not be what you expect. It might only be the one on the image which is the menu to trigger a reboot in windows
[11:08] <popey> is that all it does now?
[11:08] <popey> wow
[11:09] <davmor2> popey: it give a bunch of info and stuff and allows you to reboot into the live cd session, there was no-one really supporting the wubi back end and it didn't work on uefi setups so was becoming more unstable as time went on
[11:09] <davmor2> Se7: ^
[11:09] <popey> right
[11:09] <Se7> ^
[11:10] <davmor2> popey: was dropped as an installer pre 14.04 if I recall correctly
[11:10] <mardy> Saviq: I'm afraid I don't know. It 's probably one of these, but I don't know which: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone/+related-projects
[11:10] <mardy> Saviq: dobey will know
[11:10] <Se7> tnx for the answer
[11:10] <Saviq> mardy, thanks :)
[11:28] <mariogrip> is there any way of setting 24hours time format?
[11:28] <ogra_> it is pulled from your locale settings automatically
[11:29] <ogra_> set a proper locale and you get the proper time format
[11:32] <mariogrip> i set it to English (UK), but so there isn't any way of having it changing that without changing language?
[11:32] <mariogrip> it worked btw
[11:33] <ogra_> not currently, no
[11:34] <ogra_> you would have to hack LC_TIME to point to a locale that has the format you want
[12:22] <jgdx> is there a backup tool for the phone?
[12:25] <popey> there's rsync ㋛
[12:28] <jgdx> that's just too high level
[12:29] <jgdx> would be nice to have ubuntu-device-backup and ubuntu-device-restore :)
[12:29] <ogra_> yes
[12:33] <victor_bq> some bq costumers have asked me for backup tool
[12:33] <popey> victor_bq: to backup their data?
[12:34] <victor_bq> yes
[12:34] <victor_bq> due to some bugs/behaviours that requiere wipe
[12:34] <popey> I can think of two ways to do this. Either as an app on the device (harder) or a desktop app (easier)
[12:35] <popey> I backup my phone every 6 hours with rsnapshot. But yes, a simpler tool would be ideal.
[12:43] <davmor2> jgdx: I have steps that you could turn into something that could be command run https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/SiloTestingGuidelines bottom of the page
[12:43] <jgdx> davmor2, cool, looking
[12:44] <davmor2> jgdx: only issue is you need adb in recovery for that to work so not ideal
[12:49] <robin-hero> nik90: Hi! I saw there is a "reboot" branch for the weather app in launchpad. Could you tell me (or link me) some informations when it will be change the default weather app?
[12:50] <jgdx> davmor2, ideal for customers you mean?
[12:54] <davmor2> jgdx: as a solution not ideal but I assume there is probably a way around it
[13:02] <dobey> Saviq: a problem with login.u.c, or with the u1 account plug-in in system settings?
[13:06] <studio_> hi
[13:07] <popey> hello
[13:09] <studio_> ok, i figured out how to build cifs nfs and nfsd modules for the bq e4.5, but i have to re-flash ubuntu on it to test it
[13:09] <studio_> :)
[13:10] <ogra_> studio_, there is a readme file in the tree btw ... did you find it, i think the build instructions have been tested
[13:14] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, I checked my phone booted after following them :-)
[13:17] <mpt> “You have an approximate of 13 additional unread messages” ಠ_ಠ
[13:17] <john-mcaleely> + or - 0
[13:19] <Saviq> dobey, login.u.c
[13:22] <dobey> Saviq: canonical-identity-provider i think is the project you want to file a bug against then
[13:22] <Saviq> dobey, thanks!
[13:23] <Saviq> ah, bug there already
[13:23] <Saviq> bug #1257303
[13:36] <nik90> robin-hero: Hey, the weather-reboot will replace the default weather app when it is ready. We are following the blueprint at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+spec/weather-reboot
[13:38] <brunch875> I've registered to my very first mailing list, which honorably is ubuntu phone! Wooo!
[13:38] <brunch875> Now the big question is whether to hit reply-list or reply-all when replying
[13:38] <brunch875> looks like there are tons of discrepancies over the internet
[13:40] <jgdx> mpt, hi, how are you?
[13:41] <mpt> busy
[13:44] <dadexix86> hi! is it normal that the camera stops recording videos when the screen goes blank?
[13:49] <dobey> brunch875: reply all is almost always what you should always use, for any e-mail, regardless of whether it's on a list or not :)
[13:49] <brunch875> thanks man, that snapped me out of confusion
[13:49] <ogra_> dobey, uh
[13:50] <ogra_> if its a list, use reply-to list :)
[13:50] * brunch875 hurt himself in confusion
[13:50] <dobey> ogra_: that doesn't work if the person you're replying to isn't subscribed, and their mail was moderated through :)
[13:51] <jgdx> dadexix86, have you looked at https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app
[13:51] <dobey> ogra_: reply all is always the safest bet.
[13:51] <mpnegro> hi
[13:51] <ogra_> dobey, if i recieve a mail from a list i expect the people participating in the discussion to be on the list
[13:51] <mpnegro> anyone experience problems with imap?
[13:52] <brunch875> imap?
[13:52] <ogra_> reply a-.- totally messes up the ML headers (and many peoples filters)
[13:52] <dobey> ogra_: i have learned to have no expectations about anything any more :)
[13:52] <ogra_> *reply-all
[13:52] <jgdx> dadexix86, maybe file a bug if you can't find anything and a developer will look at it.
[13:52] <dadexix86> jgdx, yes and there is nothing about it, so I wanted to know if this would be considered a bug or a feature :)
[13:52] <brunch875> mpnegro: do you have trouble with your emails?
[13:52] <mpnegro> with the mail client of ubuntu phone
[13:53] <mpnegro> yes
[13:53] <brunch875> dekko?
[13:53] <dobey> mpnegro: #dekko might be a better channel to ask about dekko, really :)
[13:53] <ogra_> oh, it has its own channel now ?
[13:53] <ogra_> nice
[13:53] <dobey> i think so, yes
[13:54] <brunch875> I'm using dekko with imap, no issues
[13:54] <dobey> i recall popey or someone mentioning it before anyway
[13:54] <popey> ya
[13:56] <davmor3> rvr ping
[13:56] <rvr> davmor3: pong
[13:57] <davmor3> rvr thanks 3g seems to be working then
[13:58] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu Phone : Change device name | http://askubuntu.com/q/608754
[13:58] <rvr> davmor3: You're welcome
[14:21] <kenvandine> jgdx, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1438633/view/head:/plugins/about/PageComponent.qml
[14:22] <kenvandine> jgdx, can you grab that file and test it on your device?
[14:22] <kenvandine> i tried to just get more debugging output for the blank updates page, but now i can't reproduce it
[14:24] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu Phone--is there one that works in the Americas? | http://askubuntu.com/q/608759
[14:24] <Mirv> renatu: hey! what about testing the silo 004? there's only 2 days left before vivid final freeze
[14:25] <Mirv> after that it'd be vivid+1 plus backport to vivid-rtm if wanted
[14:25] <renatu> Mirv, I tested and is working nice
[14:26] <jgdx> kenvandine, sher. That's vivid, right?
[14:26] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:26] <Mirv> renatu: oh, ok. so which device and image? so that I can mark the silo as tested.
[14:26] <kenvandine> maybe not getting the pageComponent inline fixed it... not sure why
[14:27] <kenvandine> i assigned the pageComponent to load to a variable
[14:27] <kenvandine> jgdx, tested your steps several times... worked
[14:27] <kenvandine> weird
[14:30] <renatu> Mirv, Ubuntu 15.04(r178) krillin
[14:31] <Mirv> renatu: thanks! I'll gather my AP results still and then I'll publish the silo.
[14:31] <renatu> Mirv, thanks
[14:34] <Fredl_> anyone wo knows how tom importiert contacts from my old Androide phone tom my ubuntu phone without using google account?
[14:38] <AskUbuntu> What's my current best purchase option for a new Ubuntu Touch install - Nexus 10 or 7? | http://askubuntu.com/q/608763
[14:38] <ogra_> Frethere is a way to import vcf files via commandline if you can make it export your contacts to vcf
[14:46] <jgdx> kenvandine, silo 6 introduces new strings. What are the consequences of that now?
[14:46] <jgdx> can it land at all?
[14:47] <kenvandine> oh right... is that from the cellular design updates?
[14:47] <jgdx> kenvandine, yeah
[14:49] <kenvandine> seb128, ^^
[14:49] <kenvandine> seb128, you're the most likely candidate to yell at us :)
[14:50] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, grrrr
[14:50] <seb128> :-)
[14:50] * kenvandine hugs seb128
[14:50] <seb128> but fine with me, we are just not going to get translations in vivid
[14:50] <seb128> but I guess we need to branch vivid to some 15.04-rtm and roll there?
[14:50] <kenvandine> dunno if we're ready for that
[14:52] <seb128> kenvandine, are we fine freezing things with ui changes and no translations in vivid?
[14:53] <seb128> it means that if we roll rtm to vivid it's going to be uncorrectly translated
[14:53] <kenvandine> i really don't know
[14:53] <seb128> pmcgowan, ^
[14:53] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, this change is bringing the cellular panel closer to the design
[14:54] <pmcgowan> seb128, seems we will need W to open up so new translations happen?
[14:55] <pmcgowan> or can we do them directly on rtm
[14:55] <kenvandine> i guess we could branch for 15.04-rtm and translate there
[14:56] <seb128> pmcgowan, I guess we can have updates through SRUs
[14:56] <kenvandine> we have to do it at some point
[14:56] <pmcgowan> we hope to rebase rtm this week
[14:56] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:56] <kenvandine> so if we land this, we could get it translated in rtm
[14:57] <pmcgowan> maybe wait to land it after we rebase
[14:57] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:57] <kenvandine> safest
[14:57] <kenvandine> until W opens
[14:59] <kenvandine> jgdx, ^^ so i guess drop it from the silo
[15:00] <jgdx> kenvandine, imma ok with it
[15:06] <aquarius> zyga, ping about ucs
[15:11] <zyga> aquarius: hey
[15:11] <zyga> aquarius: :)
[15:11] <zyga> aquarius: I didn't recognize your nic
[15:11] <zyga> aquarius: so about ucs
[15:11] <zyga> aquarius: 1) let's get it to work 2) let's get it right 3) let's get it public
[15:12] <zyga> aquarius: the goal for me is to be able to let everyone use ucs to just put a python component inside their app
[15:13] <zyga> aquarius: as stated on G+, the trick is to extract .so file from the pyotherside deb from the archive
[15:13] <zyga> aquarius: (you can to this for each architecture to get fat packages later)
[15:13] <zyga> aquarius: and .qmldir or whatever that file is calle
[15:13] <zyga> aquarius: and that gives you all of pyotherside
[15:14] <zyga> aquarius: pyotherside links to qt5 and to libpython so you also need libpython3.4 .so from the second deb
[15:14] <zyga> aquarius: a typical click package with main.qml, lib/$arch/*.so works okay on all three platforms (x86 emulator, amd64 and real arm phones)
[15:15] <zyga> aquarius: the new debs I made are even better as they remove the requirement to use stdlib from the phone, it's now shipped inside pyotherside
[15:15] <zyga> aquarius: the actual component needs to be refreshed each time python has a security fix
[15:15] <zyga> aquarius: or each time pyotherside has a fix/release (so far that's not that frequent)
[15:15] <zyga> aquarius: the way ucs gets this is one topic
[15:16] <zyga> aquarius: but the way developers get it via ucs should be totally standard
[15:16] <zyga> aquarius: so that they can just use the common workflow
[15:16] <zyga> aquarius: for ucs I think I can upload a new version each time there is a release of either of the two dependencies (at first)
[15:16] <zyga> aquarius: and we can automate the process later if it's needed
[15:16] <zyga> aquarius: for now I'd like to get to a point that it can be used in basic way
[15:17] <zyga> aquarius: will ucs somehow merge with the SDK?
[15:18] <aquarius> zyga, sorry, otp, with you shortly
[15:19] <ogra_> zyga, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usensord/+bug/1442166 probably something you want to subscribe to (the title is slightly worng)
[15:22] <zyga> ogra_: thanks, I guess that affects all the apps using vibration
[15:23] <ogra_> zyga, yeap
[15:23] <ogra_> i'm hitting it all the time recently ... the fix should be easy
[15:24] <zyga> ogra_: what is the cause? do you know?
[15:25] <ogra_> zyga, the vibrator doesnt use a wakelock ... so the phone goes back to sleep after triggering the event
[15:25] <ogra_> which means it never knows about the end of the event because it is already asleep
[15:25] <zyga> :D
[15:26] <zyga> cool bug
[15:26] <zyga> interesting impact of suspend on programs
[15:27] <ogra_> well, i learned that it doesnt save you from draining your battery :)
[15:33] <aquarius> zyga, what you're describing is exactly how ucs (well, my proposed version of ucs, with the community components included) is supposed to work. It *should* work like that already. You'll see from the docs (specifically http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sil/component-store/community-components/view/head:/docs/contribute-community.rst) that what you do is assemble a Launchpad branch with the binary .so files and a metad
[15:33] <aquarius> ata file in, and then use "ucs submit" to tell the server about that component
[15:33] <jgdx> awe_, abeato, is lte apns ready to be implemented in uss?
[15:33] <abeato> jgdx, it has not landed yet, waiting for QA sign-pff
[15:33] <aquarius> zyga, but this stuff hasn't been *used* much yet, so there may be flaws in how it works
[15:33] <abeato> *sign-off
[15:34] <jgdx> abeato, ah, so waiting for landing
[15:34] <zyga> aquarius: when I created a branch of c-s that had pyotherside it didn't seem to work, I tried bin/ lib/ etc
[15:34] <abeato> jgdx, yes
[15:34] <zyga> aquarius: I think the missing part is the thing done on the device, which adds lib/$arch to search path
[15:34] <awe_> abeato, jgdx, hoping it'll get approved today...
[15:35] <zyga> aquarius: I'm busy on plainbox code now but I can look at that later
[15:35] <zyga> aquarius: a trivial example with a hello world QML plugin is much appreciated :)
[15:35] <zyga> (binary plugin)
[15:35] <jgdx> awe_, abeato, thanks you. I'm crossing fingers
[15:35] <jgdx> thanks you haha
[15:35] <abeato> :D
[15:36] * ferridom is looking around.. (", ) ( ,") ('_')
[15:38] <zyga> aquarius: one more thing I don't understand is frameworks, should the binary bits be provided for each framework separately (it seems so)
[15:38] <aquarius> zyga, if you get my branch, and do "./script/ucs search", you'll see that there is a "sil/CommandExec" community component. That comphttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sil/+junk/CommandExec/filesonent exists in launchpad as
[15:38] <zyga> aquarius: this might be a hole in current ucs design
[15:38] <aquarius> zyga, if you get my branch, and do "./script/ucs search", you'll see that there is a "sil/CommandExec" community component. That component exists in launchpad as http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sil/+junk/CommandExec/files
[15:38] <aquarius> (sorry, cut and paste error :))
[15:39] <aquarius> that branch contains all the build files and source etc, but it doesn't have to -- the only bits ucs cares about are /qmllib and /ubuntu_component_store.json
[15:39] <aquarius> that's an example of a (trivial) binary component
[15:39] <zyga> aquarius: ah, qmllib, I couldn't find that in any documentation I read (I followed the guide on readthedocs)
[15:39] <aquarius> zyga, I'm not sure what to do about frameworks.
[15:40] <zyga> aquarius: I'll check it out and try to submit pyotherside
[15:40] <zyga> aquarius: I'll ping you with a branch for instructions
[15:40] <aquarius> zyga, ah. The readthedocs stuff is for current trunk. My stuff, which has all the community component work in it, isn't in trunk. You want http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sil/component-store/community-components and specifically http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sil/component-store/community-components/view/head:/docs/contribute-community.rst for documentation on how to add compiled community components.
[15:41] <zyga> aquarius: thanks, I'll follow that then
[15:41] <aquarius> The existing ucs does not do binary components at all, and I don't think nik90 plans for it to do so -- existing ucs is about well-tested well-documented QML-only components which are owned by the UCS team.
[15:41] <zyga> aquarius: will your stuff merge with trunk anytime soon?
[15:41] <aquarius> My community store is much more like, say, pypi or npm; anyone can submit anything, and whether it's well-tested and good enough is up to the developer who's using it to assess for themselves.
[15:42] <zyga> I see
[15:42] <zyga> will there be one ucs?
[15:42] <zyga> one tool?
[15:42] <aquarius> I want there to be, certainly!
[15:42] <zyga> or two?
[15:42] <nik90> aquarius, zyga: I am fine with ucs supporting binary components. Which is also why I am totally with aquarius's proposal of core, community components..I am sorry, I just haven't had the time to merge it to trunk
[15:42] <zyga> any idea on timelines for that? I can dogfood pyotherside for checkbox-touch
[15:43] <zyga> nik90: hey! :)
[15:43] <nik90> zyga: hi :)
[15:43] <zyga> that sounds great
[15:43] <zyga> (do think about frameworks though)
[15:43] <nik90> aquarius, zyga: The MP requires debian packaging to be done and tested as well since otherwise it would break the existing developer's workflow
[15:43] <zyga> it seems like a big hole waiting to bite us
[15:43] <aquarius> this community stuff is a really big change to how ucs works (there are other docs in my branch which explain all that), and it really needs someone who understands all this compilation stuff to work with it and find all the problems in it, so I can see why nik90's been reluctant :)
[15:43] <zyga> nik90: debian packaging for what?
[15:43] <zyga> nik90: for each component?
[15:44] <zyga> nik90: or for the new ucs workflow with community bits
[15:44] <nik90> zyga: I created a ucs package which developers can install it on their system and install components by "ucs install component-name"
[15:44] <nik90> zyga: so that has been rewritten in python by aquarius
[15:44] <zyga> nik90: yeah, I got the ppa installed
[15:44] <zyga> (I'm not sure which one I got though)
[15:44] <zyga> nik90: what is install expected to do though? get the branch from launchpad or something more?
[15:45] <nik90> zyga: well the current binary just gets the component code from launchpad and installs it in the developer's project directory
[15:45] * aquarius nods. The existing trunk ucs (which is what is packaged by nik90) has a "ucs" command line tool which is a shell script. I rewrote the ucs utility in Python because it's quite a lot more complicated now -- curated components (those that are in current ucs trunk) are checked out of launchpad directly; community components has the ucs util talk to the server and the server says "the stuff you want is in this
[15:46] <aquarius> all the rst files in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sil/component-store/community-components/files/63/docs help to explain this stuff
[15:46] <nik90> zyga: the one proposed by aquarius is more feature filled as in it supports a curated and community store which is awesome
[15:46] <zyga> ah, ok
[15:46] <zyga> so
[15:46] <zyga> for me, I need to update the layout of my component
[15:46] <aquarius> Sorry, I know this is confusing :)
[15:46] <zyga> qmldir vs bin/lib
[15:47] <zyga> and update the script that builds it so that it's easier each time
[15:47] <nik90> zyga: the benefit of a community store is that you can host your component in your own server (github) etc and then just provide the link to ucs. so no more reviews needed to get it into the store :)
[15:47] <zyga> and push that somewhere
[15:47] <zyga> and poke you guys for review :)
[15:47] <zyga> (review as to what I did wrong)
[15:47] <zyga> the bits are straight from Debian
[15:47] <aquarius> zyga, well, sort of. As it happens you have to host community components on launchpad, but yeah, what nik90 is saying is right :)
[15:47] <zyga> I'm fine with launchpad (git support, whee)
[15:48] <nik90> aquarius: Frankly if you think your branch is ready and you are confident with it, let's go ahead and merge it. I think this would take ucs to the next level.
[15:48] <zyga> though it's really irrelevant for this component
[15:48] <zyga> \o/
[15:48] <zyga> do it, I'll dog-food this in the evening
[15:48] <zyga> nik90: just rebuild the ppa package once it lands
[15:48] <nik90> zyga: yes
[15:48] <aquarius> zyga, yeah -- you'll just have a script which downloads the deb files, unpacks things from them into a folder, and then bzr commits the folder to launchpad and then ucs submits the launchpad branch
[15:49] <nik90> aquarius: Do you want to go through your branch one last time before I merge it to trunk?
[15:49] <aquarius> nik90, I am unsure about two things with my branch -- does it break any of your existing uses? And is the download-a-binary-and-put-it-on-the-path ucs install stuff actually doing the right thing?
[15:49] <aquarius> nik90, the first one I don't know about because I haven't used the curated store enough to know if I've broken it
[15:50] <zyga> aquarius: that's exactly what I have, just using wrong paths now :)
[15:50] <aquarius> nik90, and the second one I don't know about because I don't know enough about all the compilation stuff, which is why I'm really glad that zyga wants to use it because he *does* know and can help us fix it if it's broken :)
[15:50] <nik90> aquarius: I am pretty sure it doesn't support binaries components since they require differnent paths
[15:51] <nik90> zyga: so the binary component that you are providing, will it be precompiled for the different platforms like armhf, i386 etc? or is it the raw code that needs to be compiled on developer's machines?
[15:51] <aquarius> nik90, mine supports binary components, certainly, and yours doesn't, so that's fine -- I'm not breaking anything with the community component stuff
[15:51] <nik90> aquarius: oh ok, that's awesome
[15:51] <zyga> nik90: precompiled, I get the debs from the archive
[15:51] <aquarius> nik90, but does my ucs script correctly install your existing components?
[15:51] <zyga> nik90: for each architecture
[15:51] <aquarius> nik90, I think it does, but I don't know enough to be sure
[15:51] <zyga> nik90: using apt to know the latest versions each time (it's pretty shmick :)
[15:52] <nik90> aquarius: When I tested your branch, the curated components did work as expected
[15:52] <nik90> that I am sure of
[15:52] <aquarius> nik90, cool. I'd suggest waiting for now until zyga tries using ucs for a binary component, because the likeliness that I've done something stupid somewhere is quite high :)
[15:53] <aquarius> nik90, but if it works for pyotherside (or it doesn't and we can fix the bits that don't work) then I'd certainly like to see it merged to trunk and then installable from the ppa!
[15:53] <nik90> aquarius: if it does break after all this revamp, we can work on it slowly to fix it. Until then developers can grab the components directly from launchpad
[15:53] <nik90> ack.
[15:53] <zyga> ok
[15:53] <zyga> pyotherside has gotten some fantastic features lately
[15:53] <zyga> opengl
[15:54] <aquarius> ya. I would really like to use pyotherside
[15:54] <aquarius> I just don't want to have to have a qmake or cmake project in order to do it
[15:54] <nik90> zyga: curious, but how big are the apps created with pyotherside since the app needs to ship the binaries and python libraries with it?
[15:54] <aquarius> having a pure QML project in which I can do "ucs install pyotherside" and then use python stuff is totally excellent when possible; this is precisely absolutely why I designed the ucs in the first place :)
[15:56] <zyga> nik90: pyotherside with stdlib is ... 3M on amd64
[15:56] <nik90> aquarius: the problem is that qmlproject thinks it is platform independent when in reality the binary plugin you shipped is not..that's why cmake and qmake are preferred to build the binaries for respective platform while installing it.
[15:56] <zyga> nik90: python is 4.2M
[15:56] <zyga> nik90: so around 7M per app
[15:56] <aquarius> nik90, I get that that's a problem, but it is a wrong problem. The rules for binary ucs components are: you have to provide a compiled version for *each* architecture, and a fat click package will be built.
[15:57] <aquarius> so you can use a pure qml project quite happily.
[15:57] <nik90> zyga: hmm that's still within reasonable limits
[15:57] <zyga> nik90: without stdlib it's 200K for pyotherside
[15:57] <zyga> nik90: without libpython that's just 200K (the cost of not having it in the platform)
[15:57] <aquarius> someone who says "waaah waaah disk space waaaah" is welcome to not use ucs and assemble their project themselves by hand; that's the price of being whiny about disc space :)
[15:57] <zyga> iff the platform could contain python + stdlib as a given that's comparable to an image
[15:58] <nik90> aquarius: agreed, well the fat package story in the sdk is not ready afaik..but yeah we will get back to this when that's ready :)
[15:58] <zyga> I strongly hope that future frameworks will recognize this and add python
[15:58] <zyga> especially since it's not going away anytime soon
[15:58] <aquarius> nik90, yeah, but that's because the sdk people need to hurry up, not because it's a bad idea ;-)
[15:58] <aquarius> don't tell Zoltan I said that. :)
[15:59] <nik90> zyga: may be when more and more apps start shipping python + pyotherside, it would make a compiling case for ogra_ to agree to ship it in the image
[15:59] <bzoltan> aquarius: what, when, who? Me? No way...
[15:59] <zyga> nik90: we ship it in the image
[15:59] * aquarius grins at bzoltan
[15:59] * bzoltan just does not get it
[15:59] <zyga> nik90: just 'not part of framework' yada yada
[15:59] <nik90> zyga: ah ok
[15:59] <ogra_> nik90, lol, i will *never* agree to ship python ...:)
[15:59] <zyga> nik90: though we do ship python3 the interpreter
[15:59] <zyga> nik90: not python3 the library
[15:59] <zyga> nik90: I plan on having better packages later, with static python linked into pyotherside
[16:00] <zyga> nik90: and with subset of the standard library, tailored to each app
[16:00] <ogra_> python is great for prototyping ... but not for serious stuff on a constrained system
[16:00] <aquarius> I think that pyotherside itself and pyotherside-stdlib ought to be two separate components, but I'm not bullish about that
[16:00] <zyga> ogra_: tell that to blackberry that ship their most succesful product (the hub)
[16:00] <zyga> ogra_: it's written in python
[16:00] <ogra_> zyga, poor them :)
[16:00] <zyga> ogra_: I think you are just wrong
[16:00] <zyga> ogra_: javascript and python are equal here
[16:00] <zyga> ogra_: just python is far more mature as a language
[16:01] * ogra_ works with ARM sicne 6 years now ... i havent seen python perform any good on any ARM til today
[16:01] <ogra_> i would rather completely get rid of it in the image ... but we sadly have system-image in python that keeps it around
[16:01] <nik90> ok ok we are diving into a much bigger topic than intended :P
[16:01] <ogra_> haha
[16:01] <zyga> ogra_: well, that's your word, for me python is plenty fast since all of the critical stuff is in C anyway
[16:02] <zyga> ;-)
[16:02] <ogra_> and guys ... btw ... use VIM, emacs sucks
[16:02] <ogra_> !
[16:02] <zyga> ogra_: and if BB can ship their key product on it time and again, it must be doable
[16:02] <ogra_> zyga, well, snappy will solve all this and enable users to simply install python on their phone
[16:03] <zyga> ogra_: as a library of sorts that enables true reuse?
[16:03] <zyga> ogra_: that's interesting, I didn't know that
[16:03] <ogra_> as a framework
[16:03] <zyga> ogra_: framework?
[16:03] <zyga> ah
[16:03] <zyga> right
[16:03] <zyga> (I was asking if it will be a framework)
[16:03] <zyga> but you beat me to it
[16:03] <ogra_> (which is a bundle of libraries)
[16:03] <zyga> yeah yeah
[16:03] <nik90> aquarius: I will test your branch with the latest trunk again and then do the standard test of installing components from curated and community. I think if that passes, I will get the debian rdy today and ship it. We can test the binary stuff after that since the basic requirement of being able to install qml curated and community components will be satisfied as a start.
[16:04] <ogra_> the framework story on snappy is still a bit young though
[16:04] <ogra_> and when we switch the phone to snappy is also not clear yet
[16:04] <zyga> ogra_: I'll be working on plainbox framework for snappy soon
[16:04] <ogra_> (but i'm eagerly looking forward to it ... )
[16:04] <zyga> ogra_: I'll bug you more about that (the glory of having a system testing framework)
[16:05] <ogra_> :)
[16:05] <mpt> jgdx, awe_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#New_design_.28in_progress.29
[16:05] <awe_> thank mpt!
[16:07] <aquarius> nik90, cool
[16:09] <nik90> charles: ping
[16:10] * zyga wonders what it would take to make pypy + pyotherside a reality
[16:11] <jgdx> mpt, cool, thank you
[16:24] <gQuigs> can we add the phone RTM image to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases, I'm curious how long we plan on supporting it, or when the next major update will come
[16:25] <jgdx> seb128, you want to test your silo btw?
[16:25] <jgdx> kenvandine, ^?
[16:25] <seb128> jgdx, sure can, is that vivid or rtm?
[16:25] <ogra_> gQuigs, the phone doesnt actually have releases ... it is a rollin distro
[16:25] <ogra_> *rolling
[16:26] <jgdx> seb128, vivid 06
[16:26] <ogra_> and the phone also doesnt really have "images" ...
[16:26] <ogra_> it has channels ...
[16:26] <gQuigs> ogra_: but it still has an EOL date - and it's based on a specific release
[16:27] <ogra_> nothing of this can be easily translated into the old release model
[16:27] <ogra_> no, it isnt
[16:27] <seb128> jgdx, k
[16:27] <ogra_> it neither has an EOL datew nor is it based on a specific release ... it gets constantly re-based
[16:27] <ogra_> endusers get monthly updates
[16:29] <ogra_> the concept is completely different from the old distro model
[16:29] <seb128> jgdx, hum, vivid device is flat, I'm charging a bit to power it on and then testing
[16:29] <ogra_> (and will hopefully replace it once)
[16:29] <gQuigs> ogra_: I was told a while ago, that it would get the next LTS equivalent, and then be EOL
[16:30] <ogra_> gQuigs, then you were told wrong :)
[16:30] <mpt> jgdx, awe_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking?action=diff&rev2=258&rev1=256#apn-mobile
[16:30] <gQuigs> ogra_: it was sabdfl :P ~ but yea it was a while ago
[16:30] <ogra_> the RTM channel will constantly get fed with updates from the devel distro in a completely rolling model
[16:31] <ogra_> it will never go away
[16:31] <gQuigs> ogra_: if we're going to support the phone for at least 3 years, that a huge selling point
[16:31] <ogra_> i hope we can even support them longer :)
[16:31] <jgdx> seb128, okay, do you want me to mark it untested?
[16:31] <ogra_> but i guess at one point the HW limits will kick in
[16:31] <gQuigs> ogra_: that's what I'd like to start documenting.. that we are more predictable than android :)
[16:32] <seb128> jgdx, no, those are only trivial fixes, should be fine
[16:32] <ogra_> i.e. 512M ram might not be enoughj to run ubuntu on your phone in 2-3 years
[16:32] <jgdx> seb128, kk
[16:32] <ogra_> but from an upgrade POV (if you take the HW out of the equation) it should be possible to theoretically support phones for their whole lifetime
[16:33] <jgdx> mpt, thanks. Reset is still a bit ambiguous to me, does it fit the scope of the spec to discuss what how "apn" should be reset?
[16:33] <gQuigs> ogra_: but we don't have any written commitment I can add to the release page?
[16:33] <ogra_> nope
[16:33] <gQuigs> or I guess a sub-page specific to devices might be needed at some point
[16:34] <ogra_> well, we have that ports page
[16:34] <ogra_> !devices
[16:37] <gQuigs> hmm... add a supported for / until column.. to "Working with ubuntu-device-flash"
[16:37] <jgdx> kenvandine, I can't reproduce the bug at all now.
[16:50] <studio_> maybe stupid question, but how to get the penguin to the boot-logo on the e4.5?
[16:53] <nik90> aquarius: hey, when I try installing a community component, I get the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/10817028/
[16:53] <nik90> aquarius: I am trying to install it inside a standard cmake project
[16:53] <aquarius> nik90, the way I determine this is:
[16:53] <aquarius> Pure QML projects are in a folder Foo which has a Foo.qmlproject file in it.
[16:53] <aquarius> qMake-based projects are in a folder Foo which has a Foo.pro file in it.
[16:53] <aquarius> CMake-based projects are in a folder Foo which has CMakeLists.txt and that
[16:53] <aquarius> file contains a project(Foo ...) line in it.
[16:54] <AskUbuntu> ubuntu touch web app url, sub domain | http://askubuntu.com/q/608826
[16:54] <aquarius> This is exactly the sort of thing where I don't know if what I've done is *correct* :)
[16:55] <aquarius> So, it thinks you're not in a project. This could be because the above rules are incorrect, or because the above rules are fine and they're implemented wrong, or something else...
[16:55] <nik90> aquarius: here's is the project tree https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/podbird/trunk/files
[16:55] <nik90> aquarius: I tried installing it while being inside the root folder, app and also UI
[16:56] <aquarius> ok trying it out
[16:57] <aquarius> works fine for me!
[16:57] <nik90> which folder did you try it in?
[16:58] <aquarius> root
[16:58] <aquarius> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10817071/
[16:59] * aquarius looks puzzled.
[16:59] <aquarius> I can't think why it would work for me and not you!
[17:00] <nik90> hmm let me try something
[17:01] <nik90> aquarius: hmm now it works when I replicated the way you ran the command
[17:01] <nik90> aquarius: previously I copied your script to /usr/bin
[17:02] <nik90> and then ran ucs install sil/GenericPodcastApp inside the root podbird folder
[17:02] <nik90> that hits the errpr
[17:02] <nik90> error*
[17:02] * aquarius does the puzzled look
[17:02] <aquarius> why in blazes would that make a difference? I hate computers.
[17:03] <nik90> May be you should try coping it to your /usr/bin and see if it still works for you .. that's where the ppa package installs it
[17:03] <aquarius> works fine with it in ~/bin, which is on my path
[17:04] <studio_> damn, i installed ut to "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed" and i am not able to add a hidden wireless network.?
[17:05] <nik90> aquarius: ok..I will continue testing and then see if I hit this after installing the deb package
[17:06] <aquarius> works fine with ucs in /usr/bin too
[17:06] <aquarius> am most puzzled
[17:06] <studio_> i can't insert sid nor key?
[17:07] <nik90> aquarius: oh then I have no idea :P .. no worries
[17:09] <nik90> studio_: why don't you just copy the network config from your computer to your phone? (for now)
[17:10] <aquarius> studio_: it doesn't seem to be possible to connect to a hidden network in a convenient way. If you're comfortable with the terminal, then http://askubuntu.com/questions/262155/how-do-i-connect-to-wireless-network-with-hidden-ssid-on-ubuntu-touch explains how you can set it up in a fairly technical way.
[17:10] <studio_> nik90, i flashed a brand new "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed" on my phone. 5 days ago i had no problems with that.
[17:10] <nik90> studio_: ah ok
[17:11] <studio_> i am back from Android to UT right now ...
[17:13] <studio_> cool, now i have a boot-loop! seems to be now on "ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed" for bq ...
[17:15] <studio_> hmm ... that is not so cool as i thought ...
[17:18] <studio_> after "cold reset" i was able to start the phone "normal" ...
[17:21] <studio_> 15.04 r183 is the image i use in the moment ...
[17:23] <nik90> aquarius: we might have to get someone to review the cmake rules since automatic configuration of the cmake files isnt working
[17:23] <nik90> aquarius: On creating the podbird click package, the ubuntu_component_store folder isn't included..which raises the issue that every project's folder structure and thereby their cmake files will be different
[17:23] <aquarius> nik90, I am not very surprised. I have only the most rudimentary understanding of cmake -- I did what I could, but I'm not a bit surprised that it isn't working...
[17:24] <nik90> aquarius: may be we should just resort to just adding a folder with the components and let the app dev figure that part out
[17:24] <popey> studio_: don't think that image has had much testing
[17:24] <nik90> considering they chose to use cmake in the first place
[17:24] <aquarius> nik90, I want the component store to exist precisely so that people do not have to know about cmake and qmake
[17:24] <nik90> aquarius: I agree, but why would someone go with a cmake project if they are not comfortable with it?
[17:25] <aquarius> nik90, I'd be OK with the component store only working automatically in pure qml projects, certainly. But all the SDK people who think that you're not a proper programmer unless you're writing C++ and cmake tend not to like that sort of thing :)
[17:25] <nik90> aquarius: well then those SDK people should then help add that support into UCS
[17:26] <aquarius> nik90, I concur, and I did ask for help, I just didn't get any :)
[17:26] <nik90> aquarius: yeah I remember..I wasn't blaming you ;)
[17:26] * bzoltan wishes that the sdk people would mean more than this 2 heads
[17:26] <nik90> bzoltan: do you highlight "sdk" or something
[17:27] <studio_> popey, after a reboot i was able to connect to my hidden network. now i'll try my kernel-modules ...
[17:27] <bzoltan> nik90: you figured right
[17:29] <nik90> aquarius: The problem is that we both are not experience with cmake enough to add these rules to ucs..and adding a CMakeLists.txt file which doesn't work would just lead to a bad experience imo.
[17:29] <bzoltan> aquarius: The integration of the UCS to the QtC is on the roadmap. It would be a cool feature ... but I need doing hands too, not only the idea :)
[17:29] <aquarius> bzoltan, yep; that's why we've built a prototype :)
[17:29] <bzoltan> nik90: I would not invest too much in cmake ... qmake is the way to go, even qmlprojects are in shaky base
[17:29] <nik90> bzoltan: I knw you are short staffed, but we can only go so far with our experience
[17:29] <aquarius> as nik90 says, neither of us know enough about cmake or qmake to actually have it integrate properly with cmake or qmake projects
[17:30] <aquarius> the reason I want ucs to exist is precisely *because* one should not have to know cmake to write apps :)
[17:32] <kenvandine> jgdx, at all meaning with my fix or even without it?
[17:33] <bzoltan> aquarius: cmake is evil, qmake rocks ... adding stuff to a qmake project from the QtC is doable, doing it with cmake is mission impossible
[17:34] * mcphail wishes Qt had gone with Automake. He can understand that one
[17:48] <kenvandine> jgdx, i was thinking more about qml test vs autopilot to test pushing the updates page from the about page
[17:48] <kenvandine> that has to be an autopilot test, because we specifically need to test that UI which gets the update page and pushes it on the PageStack
[17:49] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, hey :-) Did you enjoy your holidays? :-)
[17:51] <nik90> aquarius: quick question, do you know the dependencies for the new ucs? I need to include them in the debian control file.
[17:52] <nik90> aquarius: I have included python-bzrlib as one dependency which is used a lot. But I notice that imports like Flask.
[17:52] <nik90> aquarius: Do we need to include those as well?
[17:58] <studio_> hmm, "sudo insmod /lib/modules/cifs.ko" made no error on the bq e4.5, so it is working?
[18:02] <studio_> come on guys, i am not the kernel guy, but please tell me, i am on the correct way?
[18:12] <studio_> nobody here?
[18:15] <jgdx> kenvandine, not at all, even without the fix
[18:15] <jgdx> arrg
[18:15] <popey> studio_: people are here, as you can see, but people may not have the skills to answer your question or may be afk
[18:16] <popey> studio_: or maybe you're not providing enough information for people to be able to answer.
[18:16] <popey> studio_: also, patience.
[18:16] <studio_> mount - t cifs ... is not working. do i need to add "CONFIG_CIFS_XATTR=y" and "CONFIG_CIFS_POSIX=y" to the kernel?
[18:17] <kenvandine> jgdx, grrr
[18:20] <kenvandine> jgdx, i did reproduce it again without my fix
[18:20] <kenvandine> hate this bug
[18:23] <jgdx> kenvandine, I can flash an older image. I just flashed today, could be relevant
[18:24] <kenvandine> jgdx, ok
[18:26] <aquarius> nik90, hey sorry was eating dinner.
[18:27] <aquarius> nik90, flask is used by the server; the server doesn't go into the deb
[18:27] <aquarius> nik90, script/ucs is, I believe, all that I changed which gets packaged. The server folder is separate (it runs the server that ucs submit submits to).
[18:28] <nik90> aquarius: ok in that case the only new change that was required was adding python-bzrlib dependency
[18:28] <nik90> everything else stays the same
[18:28] <aquarius> nik90, cool. I did try to not do anything massively complex :)
[18:28] <nik90> aquarius: I have the debian fix branch ready to merge into your MP
[18:28] <nik90> aquarius: ;)
[18:28] <aquarius> nik90, I see the review notes. I'll try to grab some time to work on that
[18:29] <nik90> aquarius: cool
[18:29] <nik90> aquarius: just ping me when you are done, I don't seem to get email notifications on MP changes
[18:49] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, hey o/
[19:02] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, o/
[19:03] <aquarius> nik90, aha, I have replicated your "not in an sdk project" issue. Will now fix :)
[19:04] <gingermouse> Hi all! Does anyone know which PPA contains a package with the Xmir command in it?
[19:08] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu touch HTML5 performance | http://askubuntu.com/q/608872
[19:10] <aquarius> nik90, https://code.launchpad.net/~sil/component-store/community-components/+merge/245510
[19:13] <aquarius> nik90, note that importing installed components is different now with new ucs
[19:34] <AskUbuntu> How to make a USB Ethernet adapter work with Ubuntu Phone? | http://askubuntu.com/q/608879
[19:34] <nik90> aquarius: will test it out now
[19:39] * ogra_ wonders if he didnt hear aquarius recently say that newly published apps should show up immediately in the webstore
[19:39] <nik90> aquarius: I see in the docs that it says import ubuntu_component_store.Curated.EmptyState 1.0
[19:39] <nik90> aquarius: anyway we can make that UCS.Curated.EmptyState 1.0 ?
[19:40] <nik90> aquarius: also how does the versioning work here?
[19:40] <aquarius> ogra_, no; Brian Douglass's cron job still only runs infrequently. However, if you've just published an app then there's a link in the FAQ on the store to a thing where you can name your app and it'll fetch it and add it to the store immediately.
[19:40] <ogra_> aquarius, ah, well, i can wait ... :
[19:40] <ogra_> :)
[19:41] <cwayne_> mariogrip, heya, nice job on the wifi fix :)
[19:41] <aquarius> ogra_, just stick the name of the app into that form and it'll appear immediately
[19:41] <aquarius> nik90, we could make it be UCS, but then the top-level folder will have to be named UCS rather than ubuntu_component_store, and that name seems a little bit generic to me...
[19:41] <mariogrip> cwayne_ Thanks!
[19:41] <ogra_> ah, shweet ! https://uappexplorer.com/app/google-plus.ogra
[19:41] <ogra_> aquarius, thanks :)
[19:41] <cwayne_> mariogrip, what was the fix?
[19:42] <nik90> aquarius: ah ok .. that makes sense
[19:42] <nik90> aquarius: then let's leave it like that
[19:42] <mariogrip> cwayne_: I had to revert to conn_init
[19:42] <aquarius> nik90, version number of a component is defined in ubuntu_component_store.json. Updating that, or not, is up to the component author.
[19:42] <nik90> aquarius: and looks like the "not in the sdk project" issue seems fixed ;)
[19:42] <mariogrip> cwayne_: it was using qcom cne
[19:43] <aquarius> nik90, it is fixed, 'cos I fixed it :) Forgot to mention that in the commit message...
[19:43] <nik90> aquarius: that's great. So if I had sil.GenericPodcastApp.1.0 installed and if I run "ucs update", would it create sil.GenericPodcastApp.1.1 if the component author updated it?
[19:44] <mariogrip> ogra_: is apparmor needed to use the store?
[19:44] <aquarius> nik90, no. ucs update isn't implemented yet, precisely because I don't know what's best to do in that situation. What do you think should happen?
[19:44] <ogra_> mariogrip, to run click apps ...
[19:44] <nik90> aquarius: sry I meant "ucs update sil/GeneralPocastApp" since I see that in your docs
[19:45] <ogra_> the store only needs a U1 accont
[19:45] <ogra_> might be that click falls over when installing the app if apparmor isnt in the kernel, not sure
[19:45] <aquarius> nik90, note that ucs install someone/Something will just blithely overwrite any existing version of the component in the project, so that's the same as ucs update :)
[19:45] <cwayne_> mariogrip, ah, so it wasn't anything with the fstab and the firmware dir not being mounted?
[19:45] <nik90> aquarius: Ah ok..here's what I have noticed people do with UCS.
[19:46] <mariogrip> cwayne_: it was that too
[19:46] <cwayne_> mariogrip, is that what got the sound workin'?
[19:46] <mariogrip> ogra_: i cannot add an account for some reason
[19:46] <nik90> aquarius: they install a component like the WelcomeWizard etc, modify it and leave it downstream since the changes are only applicable to them or for whatever reason.
[19:46] <mariogrip> cwayne_: i got sound working with removing some unsupported file formats
[19:46] <nik90> aquarius: in that case, "ucs update" should preferably not override their changes since they wouldnt like it.
[19:46] <aquarius> nik90, totally, yep. That's why I'm frightened of "ucs update", and it will throw NotImplementedError if you try to use it :)
[19:47] <mariogrip> ogra_: and the store is giving apparmor errors, so that's why i was thinking apparmor was needed
[19:47] <cwayne_> mariogrip, ah, ok.. any idea what to do re: modem? i wonder if it needs stuff in ofono
[19:48] <nik90> aquarius: I think that's fine for now..I will try to get a poll or something running in our g+ community to see how best to approach such a use case.
[19:48] <ogra_> mariogrip, weird, but it probably does then ... so i guess apparmor is the next thing on your TODO thn :)
[19:48] <ogra_> *then
[19:49] <mariogrip> cwayne_: i think i need to revert back to ril from cne there also (i think, i need to look into that more)
[19:49] <nik90> aquarius: Can you merge my fix-debian-packaging branch and then we merge your MP to trunk?
[19:49] <mariogrip> ogra_ yeah, i guess so :)
[19:49] <nik90> aquarius: I will then push out the update to the PPA and then test the whole system out before making an announcement.
[19:50] <aquarius> yep
[19:50] <nik90> awesome
[19:51] <aquarius> merged
[19:51] <aquarius> I have assumed it was OK without review because I don't understand deban packaging ;)
[19:53] <nik90> aquarius: well the debian change is tiny, so that's fine
[19:53] <ogra_> mariogrip, a friend of mine pinged me on G+ for build instructions, do yu have them anywhere ?
[19:53] * ogra_ remembers there was a forum post or some such
[19:54] <mariogrip> ogra_ https://github.com/ubuntu-touch-oneplus-one/ubuntu-touch-for-oneplus-one
[19:54] <ogra_> thanks !
[19:54] <nik90> aquarius: also do note that I cannot make head/tail of some parts of your code due to me being a noob in python flask and those kind of stuff. But I trust your judgement on that :P
[19:54] <aquarius> nik90, :)
[19:54] <nik90> aquarius: and there goes my super clean bash script :P
[19:55] <aquarius> nik90, yeah, I know. Sorry. I did originally think of extending it, but it would have been a nightmare...
[19:55] <nik90> aquarius: no worries...personalyl excited about the community store and the ease of adding stuff to it.
[20:11] <TenLeftFingers> Got my BQ phone today :) very impressed with the quality of the II A
[20:12] <TenLeftFingers> And as you can tell I'm using it to write this.
[20:13] <TenLeftFingers> Can anyone tell me if they are also habing problems syncing their google contacts?
[20:16] <TenLeftFingers> I'm only getting seven of my google comtacts synced to the phone out of over a hundred
[20:20] <popey> TenLeftFingers: not seen that
[20:41] <nik90> aquarius: we are live! Docs Updated, PPA has new package for trusty..In a few minutes it should also be published to utopic and vivid series as well.
[20:41] <aquarius> nik90, coolio :-)
[20:41] <brunch875> what the what what? Are you hitting us with the update?
[20:41] <aquarius> brunch875, this isn't an update to Ubuntu itself :)
[20:41] <aquarius> brunch875, it's a project that nik90 and I are working on to help app developers for Ubuntu.
[20:42] <aquarius> nik90, I'd like to see zyga successfully publish pyotherside to the community store before making a big noise about this update
[20:42] <brunch875> it sounds good either way!
[20:42] <aquarius> brunch875, we hope so, certainly :)
[20:42] <brunch875> what's the candy?
[20:42] <nik90> aquarius: ack. I am going to publish a component to the community store now :P
[20:43] <nik90> brunch875: We created a Component Store where app developers can get commonly used components to use in their apps instead of having to create it from scratch.
[20:44] <brunch875> oi that sounds great!
[20:44] <nik90> brunch875: we recently pushed out an update to make it much easier app devs to submit their own components to the store easily.
[20:44] <nik90> brunch875: we will make an announcement once we get some initial testing out of the way. You will find out more then :)
[21:12] <AskUbuntu> Hide notification bar on Ubuntu phone (QML) | http://askubuntu.com/q/608923
[21:27] <nik90> aquarius: Does it make sense to recommend developers to first push their components to the community store where it stays for a while before making moving it to the curated store?
[21:28] <aquarius> not sure
[21:28] <aquarius> I'm inclined to say that the curated store provides a different sort of experience to the community store
[21:29] <aquarius> the curated store is for really well-written things -- essentially, things that the developer feels really ought to be part of the SDK because they're excellent
[21:30] <aquarius> the community store doesn't really have that vibe about it -- it's a much more free-for-all sort of thing. I'd expect there to be multiple different components which do the same thing in the community store, for example, and I'd expect that not to happen in the curated store
[21:30] <aquarius> so I don't think that the community store is really an audition for being curated.
[21:30] <aquarius> On the other hand, it may well be useful for a component to get some use and testing before the developer knows whether it's really ready for being curated.
[21:31] <nik90> ok
[21:31] <aquarius> that is -- if someone shows up with a really good component and wants to propose it be curated, you'd be daft to say "no no things ought to go into the community store first to Prove Their Worth"
[21:32] <aquarius> equally, if someone shows up with a proposal for the curated store and you don't think it's ready, you might suggest that they publish it to the community store first
[21:33] <nik90> yeah I need to put that wording carefully
[21:34] <aquarius> yeah. You don't want people to see either store as being a "rejection" or a "goal", I think; it's about where a component best fits, not about how worthy it is
[21:34] <aquarius> otherwise you'll have a bunch of people annoyed that their component isn't "good enough" to be curated and demanding a "promotion"
[21:34] <aquarius> which will just make your life stressful :)
[21:35] <nik90> yeah
[21:35] <nik90> funny enough that's what I had in mind when I asked that question :P
[22:29] <nik90> aquarius: how does one remove a component from the community store?
[22:29] <aquarius> nik90, at the moment, by pinging me
[22:29] <aquarius> the issue there is that submission does not require authentication
[22:29] <aquarius> (deliberately)
[22:29] <aquarius> and I don't want you to be able to remove my components
[22:30] <nik90> aquarius: ok..because I saw this big "DO_NOT_EDIT_THIS_FILE_BY_HAND" :P and was worried if the server had provision to remove components
[22:31] <aquarius> I'm not sure how to solve that. I *think* the best way is to require that you make the destination branch invalid as a component somehow (obvious way: remove ubuntu_component_store.json) and then "ucs remove sil/Component" will look at the existing branch it knows about, see it's no longer a branch, and remove it from the list
[22:31] <nik90> aquarius: I will mention that quickly in the docs for now as a temporary info msg.
[22:31] <aquarius> the reason you mustn't edit that file by hand is that the UCS server maintains its own copy of it, and if you edit the one in Launchpad, the server's copy gets out of sync and then it all goes wrong ;)
[22:31] <nik90> aquarius: is it possible to check the existence of a lp branch?
[22:32] <nik90> if app dev deletes his lp branch and then submits that as an *update*, it would be removed from the list
[22:32] <aquarius> it is -- when you submit a component to the community store, the server fetches your branch and pokes around in it to confirm that it's a valid-looking component (it has an ubuntu_component_store.json, that file contains required metadata, etc)
[22:32] <aquarius> ya, I think that that's the best way, I just haven't implemented it yet :)
[22:33] <nik90> aquarius: yeah ofc this is v0.2...it is to be expected
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[15:42] <alan_g> kdub: AlbertA RAOF now returning void. Please check: https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/first-pass-of-surface-spec-modification/+merge/255707
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:02] <cartes9> 안녕하세요
[00:10] <bluedusk> DarkCircle, 저 걍 켜두고 다니는거죠 컴터 ㅋㅋ
[00:10] <bluedusk> 야근 따위 하지 않아요
[00:21] <jun__> 안녕하세요~~~ 좋은 아침입니다~
[00:21] <cartes9> 네~
[00:21] <cartes9> 좋은 아침입니다.
[00:25] <jun__> 오늘 날씨 진짜 좋네요.. 살짝 더운감도 있지만.. ㅎㅎ
[00:25] <jun__> 주말에 다들 꽃놀이 갔다오셨나요~??
[00:25] <cartes9> 전 어제
[00:26] <cartes9> 계속 DNS 구축붙잡고 있는데 잘 안되네요
[00:26] <cartes9> 저 좀 도와주세요. ㅠㅠ
[00:26] <jun__> ................... 전 허접이라...도움이 될만한게 없을텐데요....
[00:27] <jun__> 고수님들 호출!!! ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:27] <jun__> DNS이야기 나올때마다 토론하시던분이 누구시더라..??
[00:30] <bluedusk> AutoWiZ_znc, << 이분이실껄요?
[00:47] <jun__> AutoWiz_znc 님 엊그제 주말 새벽에도 계속 일 하고 계시던데...
[00:52] <AutoWiZ_znc> 음...
[00:52] <AutoWiZ_znc> 오늘은 살짝 늦게 출근했네요 ㅎㅎ
[00:53] <AutoWiZ_znc> DNS bind 서버 쓰실려는 거지요?
[00:53] <cartes9> 네
[00:53] <cartes9> 안녕하세요
[00:53] <AutoWiZ_znc> 완전 처음이라 힘드신건지 , 아니면 특정 부분에서 걸려서 힘드신건지요?
[00:54] <cartes9> 일단; 지금 dotname.co.kr 에서 호스트 등록을
[00:54] <cartes9> 어제 하고 오늘은 주소를 바꿨는데
[00:54] <cartes9> 인제 변경하는데 퍼져나가는게 좀 걸리는지
[00:55] <cartes9> 다시 바꿔줘도 또 옛날 IP주소로 나오고 하네요
[00:55] <AutoWiZ_znc> 각 도메인마다 기본 네임서버는 정해져 있는데요
[00:55] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그 네임서버 한테 직접 물어볼 수 있습니다.
[00:55] <cartes9> 완전 처음이라 힘든거 같아요.
[00:56] <AutoWiZ_znc> nslookup domain.com ns.domain.com 처럼 뒤에 네임서버 이름이나 ip 를 주면 되는데요
[00:56] <AutoWiZ_znc> 도메인을 알려주실 수 있으신가요?
[00:57] <cartes9> 네
[00:57] <cartes9> laniel.net
[00:57] <cartes9> ns1.laniel.net, ns2.laniel.net
[00:57] <cartes9> 이에요.
[00:57] <cartes9> 엇
[00:57] <cartes9> ns.laniel.net*
[01:01] <cartes9> AutoWiZ_znc, 혹시 조회해 보셨나요?
[01:01] <AutoWiZ_znc> 예 조회가 아예 안되네요
[01:01] <AutoWiZ_znc> 등록은 제대로 된거 맞는지요?
[01:02] <cartes9> 네 일단 호스트 등록을 해야하는걸로 알고있는데요
[01:02] <cartes9> 도메인등록업체에서?
[01:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 네 거기서 도메인이 등록이 되어야 하는데
[01:02] <cartes9> 지금 좀 이상해요
[01:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그 회사에 전화를 해서 현재 상황 설명하고 문의를 해보시는것도 방법일거 같습니다.
[01:03] <cartes9> 제가 ns1을 ns로 바꿔서
[01:03] <cartes9> 잔 캐시(?)가 남은거같아요
[01:03] <cartes9> 오늘 아침에요
[01:24] <AutoWiZ_znc> 캐쉬가 남으면 엉뚱한 자료라도 나와야 하는데
[01:24] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아무 자료도 조회가 안되요
[01:24] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아 쿼리를 이제 봤네요
[01:25] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저 1~ 2시간 외출좀 할께요
[01:25] <AutoWiZ_znc> 시간되면 핸폰으로 irc 들어올지도
[01:25] <AutoWiZ_znc> ㅋㅋ
[01:29] <HolyKnight> http://i2.imgtong.com/1504/31d7f4d98a62f6db4bfa4a2d170edfbe_433N5mnUDFsGI.jpg
[02:09] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ 신암행어사.... 진짜 군이 이상하게 돌아가는거 같네요
[02:14] <jun__> Seony님 안녕하세요~
[02:19] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[02:19] <Seony> 아무리해도 잘 안되신다는 글 나중에 봤습니다 ㅎㄹㅎ
[02:19] <Seony> 제가 도와드릴 부분이 있으면 말씀하세요
[02:20] <jun__> 계정이 북미껄로 안넘어가요 ㅜㅜ
[02:20] <Seony> 아마 새로 만드셔야할걸요
[02:21] <jun__> 계정 탈퇴하고 다시 만들어야 할까봐요....ㅎㅎㅎ
[02:21] <Seony> 북미 배틀넷으로 가셔서 거기서 새로 아이디를 만들어보세요
[02:21] <Seony> us.battle.net
[02:22] <jun__> https://kr.battle.net/account/support/personal-verification/select-verification.html?verificationRefererType=ACCOUNT_CREATION
[02:22] <jun__> 북미 배틀넷에서 접근해도 한국 배틀넷으로 바뀌어버리네요..
[02:22] <Seony> 그건 아마 캐쉬 때문에 그런 듯 싶으니, private mode로 브라우저 하나 띄워보세요
[02:26] <jun__> 캐쉬 날리고 Inprivate 모드로 변경해도 마찬가지네요... 접속 주소로 확인하는건가..;;
[02:26] <Seony> 페이지 하단 접속지역 바꿔도 그래요?
[02:28] <jun__> 예.. 언어는 바뀌는데 지역은 변경이 안되네요
[02:31] <Seony> 음... 북미 계정 만드는 법이 따로있는게 아닌지... 제가 대신 만들어드릴까요 ㅎㅎ
[02:32] <jun__> 예~ 하나 만들어주세요~
[02:32] <jun__> 필요한 부분이 있으면 알려드릴께요
[02:36] <Seony> jun__: 쿼리 보내드렸어요
[03:52] <HolyKnight> 서니찡 ㅎㅇㅇ
[03:55] <HolyKnight> http://media.daum.net/economic/others/newsview?newsid=20150413091004962&RIGHT_HOT=R1
[03:56] <HolyKnight> http://media.daum.net/digital/others/newsview?newsid=20150401073008868
[03:58] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[04:10] <DarkCircle> 9급 공무원 ㅎㅎ
[04:11] <DarkCircle> 말은 안정적이라고 하는데 오래하다 나가는 사람 못봤습니다. 정년 되기 전에 박차고 나가죠. 뒤늦게 들어가면 갈수록 봉급이 짜고 호봉수는 어차피 처음에 들어간 연도 기준으로 받는거다보니까 ...
[04:13] <DarkCircle> 정말 어디 오갈데없는 사람이라면 9급 공무원만한 자리가 없는데 9급 공무원은 말이 "미래가 보장" 됐다고는 하는데 사실은 공무원 연금 지금도 그렇지만 깎이는 중이고 앞으로도 점점 ... 정년 이후의 혜택은 줄어듭니다. 사설 연금 보험이 더 낫죠.
[04:24] <jun__> 하... 공무원이라...
[04:39] <bluedusk> 서니찡 ㅎㅇㅇ
[04:40] <bluedusk> 엌 난 혼나려나..ㅠ
[04:40] <jason_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[04:56] <bluedusk> jason_, 님 왜 이럴때만 나오시는거죠?
[04:57] <jason_> 그럼? 요...
[04:57] <jason_> ㅎ
[04:57] <bluedusk> 저도 이직좀 굽신굽신
[04:58] <jason_> 뉘신지~
[05:31] <bluedusk> jason_, 접니다 bluedusk
[05:31] <jason_> 잘 지내죠? ^^
[05:31] <jason_> \
[05:32] <bluedusk> 뭐 그냥 저냥 잘 못지내요 ㅋ
[05:46] <jason_> ㅎ
[06:04] <razGon_MINILA> 우리나라는 진짜 걸구 넘어지는거 많더군요.
[06:04] <razGon_MINILA> 가장 좋은건 조폭으로 불법 대부사업.
[06:04] <razGon_MINILA> 이게 가장 나을드ㅡㅅ.
[06:04] <razGon_MINILA> 허가 안받아도 되고.
[06:04] <razGon_MINILA> 쩝.
[06:09] <razGon_MINILA> startup을 쉽게 해야 하는데 걸리는게 넘많아요.
[06:09] <razGon_MINILA> startup하면 일정기간동안 세금을 면제해주거나 감세 해주는게 좋은데.
[06:10] <razGon_MINILA> 아니면 startup 투자한 부분에 대해서는 감세를 해준다든가요.
[06:10] <razGon_MINILA> 이번에 핀테크가 더 활성화되기위해서 기술적인 부분보다 법적인 부분에 개발도 필요핤듯해요.
[06:11] <razGon_MINILA> 내가 문말을 하고 있었죠? ㅋㅋㅋ 그냥 영어 공부나.ㅋ
[06:51] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아 안녕하세요
[06:51] <cartes9> 안녕하세요
[06:53] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저 혹시 dns 문제는 끝난건가요?
[06:53] <bluedusk> AutoWiZ_znc, 잘 모르겠습니다
[06:55] <cartes9> 제가 지금은 자격증 시험이 있어서 그거 연습하면서 시간을 쓸려구요.
[06:55] <cartes9> 잠깐 쉬고있어요.
[06:56] <bluedusk> 오 무슨 자격증이요?
[06:56] <cartes9> 컴활2급이요
[06:57] <cartes9> AutoWiZ_znc, 나중에 혹시 괜찮으시다면 도움좀 여쭙고 싶네요.
[07:07] <AutoWiZ_znc> 예 그러시지요~
[07:07] <cartes9> 네.. 감사드립니다
[07:08] <bluedusk> >_<)/
[07:09] <cartes9> ^^?
[07:50] <jason_KR_> 오즈께서 DNS 말씀하시니 생각나는데, 요즘 포럼 웹 사이트 입장할 수 없죠?
[07:50] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요 j 님
[07:51] <AutoWiZ_znc> 어라? 안되는군요
[07:52] <AutoWiZ_znc> 서버가 죽었다던가 그런문제일려나?
[07:52] <AutoWiZ_znc> 일려나요? 제 pc 라도 무상 제공해드려야 하는 상황인건지
[07:53] <imsu> 안녕하세요 ^
[07:53] <imsu> ^^
[07:55] <Seony> 임수 하이
[07:57] <bluedusk> jason_KR_, 서버 사망했다던데요?
[07:57] <bluedusk> 하드웨어 문제라는 소문이 있던데요
[07:57] <bluedusk> imsu, 임수님 하이
[07:57] <bluedusk> 하앜하앜
[08:33] <AutoWiZ_znc> 임수 하이하이~~
[08:39] <DarkCircle> 근데 정말 하드웨어 문제일지 ...
[08:39] <DarkCircle> 아니면 커널을 잘못 심어서 그런지는 -ㅅ-a ............
[08:42] <bluedusk> DarkCircle, 하드웨어 불량인거 같아요
[08:42] <bluedusk> ecc 메모리가 나간거 같던데
[08:42] <DarkCircle> 고뤠요 ?ㅅ?
[08:42] <DarkCircle> 근데 로그상으로는 프로세서가 나간거 같이 보이던데 훔훔
[08:43] <DarkCircle> 얼마나 훅기로 안불었으면 ... 음 정말 먼지 작살일거 같은데 ㅡ,.ㅡ
[08:43] <DarkCircle> 시간나면 한번 빼서 콤뿌렛쌰로 쏵~ 한번 불어제껴야 -ㅅ-
[08:46] <bluedusk> 아 프로세서였나?
[08:46] <bluedusk> 걍 대충 봐서 몰겠 ㅋ
[08:48] <bluedusk> 퇴근해야지
[08:48] <bluedusk> DarkCircle, 퇴근하시죠
[08:49] <DarkCircle> 전 이미 퇴근과 동시에 또 다른 출근 'ㅅ'/
[09:33] <AutoWiZ_znc> 우와 다크서클님 투잡?
[09:33] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 아직도 회사 ㅠㅠ
[11:30] <HolyKnight> http://www.zdnet.co.kr/news/news_view.asp?artice_id=20150413103009
[13:26] <razgon_MBP> 후... 섬을 가는 것을 중단했습니다.
[14:27] <PotatoGim^Home> 안녕하세요~~
[14:54] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[17:53] <PotatoGim^Home> 똑똑똑
[17:54] <AutoWiZ_znc> 네네\
[18:00] <PotatoGim^Home> 와우. 이른 시간에 계시네요 ㅎㅎ
[18:05] <AutoWiZ_znc> 이게 이르다고 해야할지 늦었다고 해야할지 ㅠㅠ
[18:18] <PotatoGim^Home> ㅎㅎ 애매한 시간이긴 하네요..
[18:47] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:57] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요~
[19:02] <Work^Seony> 어김없이 계시네요
[19:07] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뭐 있을때도 있고 없을때도 있고 그런거지요
[19:09] <Work^Seony> 거의 계시는거 같은데요 ㅎㅎ
[23:52] <HolyKnight> @windshoes: 1.농담의 역학 : 힘없는 사람이 힘 있는 사람을 농담의 대상으로 삼는 것을 풍자(諷刺)라 말하고, 힘없는 사람이 힘없는 사람끼리 주고받는 농담을 해학(諧謔)이라 말하며, 힘없는 사람이 자신을 소재로 웃으며 농담을 던지는 것을 자조(自嘲)라 말한다.
[23:53] <HolyKnight> @windshoes: 2.농담의 역학 : 힘있는 사람이 힘없는 사람을 상대로 던지는 농담을 희롱(戱弄)이라 하며, 힘있는 사람이 힘없는 사람의 이익을 탐하여 속이고 놀리는 것을 농락(籠絡)이라 하고, 힘있는 사람이 힘없는 사람을 비웃고 괴롭히는 것을 폭력(暴力)이라 한다.
[23:54] <Work^Seony> 참 여러가지 의미가 있네요 ㅎㅎ
[23:55] <AutoWiZ_znc> 좋은 말씀 잘 들었습니다 ㅎ
[23:55] <AutoWiZ_znc> 남에게 희롱 주지 않도록 주의 해야하겠습니다.
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-release
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[08:41] <ogra_> can someone approve the initramfs-tools upload above please (this is slightly urgent to unbreak a certain phone image)
[08:43] <ogra_> infinity, ^^^ once you wake up ^^^
[08:54] <ogra_> Laney, ^^^ ?
[08:54] <ogra_> (i see you are in ubuntu-release)
[09:21] <davmor2> ogra_: you'd better fix it damn you, Or I'm jumping on a plane to Germany ;)
[09:25] <Laney> ogra_: I don't really understand it
[09:25] <Laney> also, please make it not refer to a private bug one way or another
[09:25] <ogra_> Laney, what ?= the change ?
[09:25] <Laney> yes
[09:26] <ogra_> if root= is set to /dev/ram on the kernel cmdline and systempart is also set we dont want /dev/ram being taken into account ...
[09:26] <Laney> I can read the shell :P
[09:26] <Laney> I just don't know the context well enough to review it sensibly
[09:27] <ogra_> sigh
[09:31] <Laney> ogra_: OK, looks sane I think, just file a public bug please
[09:32] <ogra_> will do
[09:32] <Laney> thx
[09:46] <ogra_> Laney, new bug new luck :)
[09:58] * ogra_ hugs Laney
[10:12] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I have forked versions of Ambiance and Radiance for Ubuntu MATE call Ambinat-MATE and Radiant-MATE.
[10:12] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I've aligned them with ubuntu-themes 14.04+15.04.20150410-0ubuntu1 which incorporates many bugs fixes.
[10:13] <flexiondotorg> Laney, As the Ambiant-MATE and Radiant-MATE themes are only used in Ubuntu MATE do you see any obstacles for a sponsoring request once I've prepared the debdiff?
[10:20] <Laney> flexiondotorg: Technically no, but why do you need to fork instead of adding rules to the regular theme?
[10:26] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Perhaps in 15.10 it will be possible to unify them again. But my merge proposals when unactioned (when unofficial) last year so I had no other option.
[10:27] <flexiondotorg> *went unactioned
[10:27] <Laney> Did you remind anyone?
[10:27] <flexiondotorg> I tried. But to be fair, I don't know all the ins and outs of sponsoring back then either.
[10:28] <flexiondotorg> So, they may not have been appropriately flagged.
[10:30] <Laney> flexiondotorg: I guess it's https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-themes/mate-fixes/+merge/229649 ?
[10:30] <Laney> (and other things?)
[10:31] <Laney> Well, could you talk to larsu first and see what his opinion is?
[10:31] <Laney> Then we can decide whether to fork or unify them
[10:37] <flexiondotorg> Laney, kind of. That was an MP to add essential MATE compatibility.
[10:38] <flexiondotorg> Laney, In my current forks I have a one line GTK3 tweak which suits MATE but is probably not suitable for Ubuntu. It override symbolic icons with full colour icons.
[10:38] <flexiondotorg> Laney, And of course the colour theme is different in Ubuntu MATE compared to Ubuntu.
[10:39] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I'll be happy to discuss this for 15.10 and see what can be done to remove the duplication.
[10:45] * ogra_ tickles the publisher with a feather ...
[11:17] <rbasak> infinity: could you look at syslinux-themes-debian in trusty-proposed and utopic-proposed when you process SRU today please? It'd be nice to have this landed before Vivid's release as they fix a do-release-upgrade problem.
[11:18] <rbasak> (428 people marked "affected" from previous upgrades)
[11:19] * ogra_ glares at the top right of https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-linux/lastBuild/
[11:20] <ogra_> doesn anyone know why 86 desktop kernels do their adt tests on a phone ?
[11:20] <ogra_> unless krillin-08 isnt a phone anymore
[11:21] <ogra_> evam i reading that page wrong ?
[11:21] <ogra_> bah, no ev ...
[14:01] <ginggs> hi release team, would someone look at approving an FFe please? LP: #1434814
[14:08] <balloons> infinity, when do you plan to create the release milestone on the image tracker? Next Monday?
[14:09] <infinity> balloons: Probably Friday afternoon.
[14:09] <balloons> infinity, ack ty.
[15:05] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Is it bad form to subscribe ubuntu-release to bug I think I release critical?
[15:05] <flexiondotorg> infinity, If so, what is the correct way to raise awareness other than the QA tracker?
[15:10] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Give it a rls-v-incoming tag.
[15:11] <flexiondotorg> infinity, And I won't be treading on any toes by doing that?
[15:16] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks. Tags added.
[18:59] <coreycb> arges, hi, friendly reminder on 2014.1.4
[19:12] <sil2100> Hello everyone! I'll be disabling the importer on nusakan for a moment as the every-5-min runs conflict with my image copy intents
[19:45] <arges> coreycb: ah, yea sprinting at this moment, i'll take a look
[19:46] <coreycb> arges, thanks
[19:53] <arges> coreycb: should be good, please check
[20:01] <coreycb> arges, looks good, thanks!
[20:17] <wxl> Riddell: there is some reason to believe that bug 1441843 affects kubuntu, too? sgclark and Kamilion had kind of suggested as such.
[20:18] <wxl> stgraber: ypwong: darkxst: zequence: you may want to check out bug 1441843 and see if it affects you guys as well
[20:19] <stgraber> edubuntu is lts only, so not caring very much
[20:20] <wxl> okie dokie :)
[20:20] <wxl> what about mate, flexiondotorg? is it affected by 1441843?
[20:21] <wxl> …because, oddly, Xubuntu is NOT affected, apparently.
[20:22] <jdstrand> infinity: thanks for cathing that think-o
[20:22] <jdstrand> catching
[20:22] <jdstrand> jeez
[20:23] <wxl> infinity: i trust recent vivid dailies for ubuntu proper has no such problems in vms?
[20:41] <infinity> wxl: Fairly sure I'd have people yelling at me if Ubuntu was broken that way.
[20:41] <wxl> infinity: i would suspect as such, but it's worth looking into
[20:45] * tumbleweed is a terrible release team member. Just looking at things when I get privately asked :/
[20:57] <sil2100> Hello! I re-enabled the importer again
[21:25] * Riddell uploading kde frameworks 5.9
[21:49] <robru> infinity: http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/BootTest/job/vivid-boottest-webbrowser-app/lastBuild can I get you to poke this boottest failure through? thx
[22:12] <robru> Saviq: ok silo 25 landed and I pushed the changelog fix to trunk. will sort itself out next time you do a release (I won't bother doing a new release just for a changelog fix)
[22:22] <darkxst> wxl, ubuntu GNOME is booting fine in VMware 11
[22:23] <wxl> darkxst: good to hear. could you double check virtualbox and then update the description of that bug in the "does not affect" section? thanks in advance :)
[22:24] <infinity> robru: Retried.
[22:27] <robru> infinity: thanks
[22:52] <darkxst> somebody uploaded the vivid fglrx to trusty-proposed, bug 1129409
[22:54] <darkxst> well fglrx-installer-updates
[23:01] <darkxst> i suppose it was intentional, but still its broken
[23:14] <wxl> infinity: can you help us get our xserver-xorg-video-* packages back? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1441843
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2015-04-13-#lubuntu
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[00:35] <rexuss> Hi, I'm using a static IP for my lubuntu 14.10, however, when I checked the NetworkManager.conf file, I didn't see any IP address there. I also checked the /etc/network/interfaces file and it doesn't show any IP address which I assigned. Where else should I search for that?
[00:38] <teward> rexuss: I'm not sure you should be looking at a specific conf file, rather you should be using the NetworkManager GUI for that kind of stuff. You can also see if the IP is assigned by doing `ifconfig` on the command line
[00:40] <rexuss> teward: shouldn't it stored in one of the configuration file? I'm just curious actually.
[00:56] <teward> rexuss: probably, but as my network's static IP assignments are handled as static DHCP reservations, I'm not sure where you would be looking :/
[00:58] <rexuss> teward, I looked again in the /etc/NetworkManager directory. there's a directory called system-connections and there's a file called eth0. when I looked at it, it turns out that all the configurations are stored there :)
[01:09] <teward> rexuss: there you go :)
[01:10] <teward> rexuss: it probably stores it per interface, yes.
[01:10] <teward> :)
[01:12] <rexuss> teward: similar to what we see in the GUI
[01:15] <teward> mhm
[01:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Hello! I want to know where I would be able to find stuff to fix my problems... when I open up Teeworlds, Minetest or AssaultCube my whole system freezes and I have to manually reboot.
[01:45] <JohnnyComeL8ly> (By which I mean, shut it down by using the power button to interrupt the power.)
[01:57] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Hi, everybody.
[02:00] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'll be back later.
[10:51] <schmtzl90> hi, what is the default lock screen´s name?
[10:53] <schmtzl90> lxsession-default lock does not work
[11:16] <tlkr> didn't it change to use xscreensaver in 14.10? or am I imagining that
[11:17] <tlkr> either way xscreensaver-command -lock works on mine, do not remember if I changed it.
[11:18] <schmtzl90> i am using 14.04. sry for not mentioning it it
[11:28] <pntkrtr> Hola, amigos, tengo un problema con lbuntu a la hora de ejecutar scripts de bash, desde la opción "Ejecutar en un terminal", ya que se carga el terminal pero no el script, no se pasa como parametro y el script queda esperando comando. ¿Alguna idea, por favor? Gracias.
[11:29] <pntkrtr> Hello friends, I have a problem with lubuntu when run bash scripts from the "Run in Terminal", because the terminal is loaded but not the script charged and executed, not passed as parameter and the script waits command input. Any ideas, pease? Thanks.
[11:32] <pntkrtr> There is someone?
[11:32] <pntkrtr> Hola, hay alguien ahí?
[11:55] <schmtzl90> light-locker is the default lock screen in 14.04. if you want to launch by shortcut you can use the command "light-locker-command -l"
[22:41] <gassho> Well how about that :/
[22:43] <ianorlin> gassho what is your question?
[22:44] <gassho> I found the answer in the docs.
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-pl
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[00:18] <m477_> ktos mi wypil wudeczke ^^
[13:51] <Ashiren> :v
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.751217
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"Ashiren",
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-kernel
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[02:36] <FourDollars> Hi, http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/info/kernel-version-map.html is not up to date. Could someone help to update it?
[02:44] <apw> FourDollars, hmmmm, i'll stick it on my list, thats just strange
[02:45] <FourDollars> apw: thx
[02:59] <apw> FourDollars, ok, seems we lost a cronjob somewhere along the line, i've fixed that up and re-run it, it should now be up to date
[03:04] <FourDollars> apw: It works now. Thx a lot.
[11:31] <ogra_> apw, do you happen to know who defines the autopkg tests for initramfs tools ?
[11:32] <ogra_> looking at why migration of my last initramfs-tools upload takes so long i see that one of its tests seems to be to build the amd64 and i386 kernel binaries from source ... that seems quite overkill (and i'm not sure what it is supposed to test)
[11:42] <apw> ogra_, that is a limitation of the dep-8 autorunners, that test is there to ensure that things like compiler updates and the like don't stop the kernle from buildnig
[11:43] <ogra_> but why initramfs-tools ?
[11:43] <apw> ogra_, however, there is no way as things stand to tell which dpeendant package is triggering the testing
[11:43] <ogra_> ah :/
[11:43] <apw> it is interdependant on the kernel, so it triggers the kernel tests
[11:43] <apw> and we can't tell "why" so we can only do "all of them"
[11:43] <ogra_> yeah, understood ... quite awkward
[11:44] <apw> pitti can tell you more about what would be needed to make it better, better than i can, but we basically need the adt interface into the tests to have the concept of "why"
[11:44] <apw> as we also rebuild the kernel as a result of buiding the kernel when testing the kernel itself, which is as dumb as a large bag of hammers
[11:45] <ogra_> right, yeah, i just wanted to know whats triggers it ... (why it also triggers boot tests on a device where it cant replace the initrd is another thing ... (phones))
[11:45] <apw> ogra_, yes ... adt is pretty lame at these kinds of time. it is building a kernel you don't even run too
[11:46] <ogra_> well, lookin at this boot test stuff it seems to seriously do something ... even with reboots and all ... i just dont get how you can test it if you have no way to actually use the binary initrd
[11:47] <apw> ogra_, it is curtinaly not tied to initramfs-tools intentionally and thoughtfully, so do not be suprised if it makes no sense, looking for sense in the behavoiur will make your head hurt in spades
[11:47] <apw> it is the price of doing business with britney
[11:47] <ogra_> lol
[11:47] <ogra_> ok
[11:48] <apw> having a way for the adt tests to know the context of their triggering so they can be more selecting in what any why they test should be on CIs backlog if it isn't already
[11:48] <ogra_> yeah
[11:49] <ogra_> this all-new "agile" development is pretty slow :)
[13:58] <jdstrand> ogasawara: hey, what is the status of the snappy 15.04 kernel-- is it frozen? apparently arm64 seccomp is not (enabled/available) on the snappy kernel and was wondering if we should pursue trying to get this in: http://lwn.net/Articles/623201/
[14:02] <ogasawara> jdstrand: checking, one sec. I'm sitting right next to ppisati.
[14:03] <jdstrand> awesome, thanks!
[14:09] <ogasawara> jdstrand: sooo, we believe it is enabled already for arm64
[14:11] <jdstrand> hmm
[14:12] <jdstrand> maybe we just need a rebuild for the snappy package
[14:12] <jdstrand> err
[14:12] <jdstrand> seccomp package
[14:12] <jdstrand> let me try that
[14:15] <jdstrand> ogasawara: I seem to need 2.2.0. thanks for checking that
[14:15] <ogasawara> jdstrand: np
[16:02] <igalic> so! i've asked this queestion already in #ubuntu-server, but nobody was able to answer it :( so i'm asking here again!
[16:04] <igalic> i've updated my cobbler setup with the ubuntu 14.04.2 server iso (was .1), using its initrd and kernel https://gist.github.com/igalic/769087e09c049e225665 to pxe install virtual machines. The result, however, is: http://i.imgur.com/9aQFmdz.png
[16:05] <igalic> found, and updated this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1302158 not sure it's the exact one i'm hitting.
[16:23] <igalic> hrm… it appears that my isp's mirrir is lagging behind.
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.765818
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu+1
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[07:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:52] <aikidouke> what group is responsible for composing daily builds and releases?
[15:55] <peppelakappa> hello, anyone with haswell graphics there? I'm experiencing a strange problem: a core of my cpu is stuck at 70% load, even without nothing cpu-intensive running
[15:59] <genii> aikidouke: Each team ( Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu ) has their own team with a core group of devs and a team leader that push out their respective dailies
[16:02] <aikidouke> genII: thanks, Im looking for the name of the team for ubuntu, want to learn more about the process and possibly contribute/volunteer
[16:02] <genii> aikidouke: Might want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams
[16:03] <genii> aikidouke: Those are the ones more directly related to Ubuntu. The other flavours have their own respective teams that aren't listed on there however
[16:04] <aikidouke> ok thanks again
[19:27] <MichaelP> running 15.04... for etc/X11 do i need to create xorg.conf.d for 2-radeon.conf ? or is it somewhere else
[19:30] <k1l> you dont need to create a xorg conf usually
[19:30] <MichaelP> found it usr/share/x11/xorg.conf.d
[19:30] <genii> !xorgconf
[19:33] <MichaelP> i useing the free driver... that why i need xorg.conf.d... for 20-radeon.conf
[19:35] <MichaelP> Where is the fglrx driver in 15.04
[23:27] <MichaelP> kubuntu 15.04 everytime i start to move mouse up center of screen and to left side. screen starts turning blue. closer to the corner bluer it gets... http://i.imgur.com/IPIBADm.jpg
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.771420
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2015-04-13-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[08:18] <ypwong> nudtrobert, aron说你得找一下人传 activity-log 那个包
[11:50] <nudtrobert> 已经OK了
[11:50] <nudtrobert> ypwong
[11:50] <ypwong> nudtrobert, thanks
[11:51] <nudtrobert> 在LP上确认了翻译，等着自动导入
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.774926
| 2015-04-13T00:00:00 |
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"ypwong"
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2015-04-13-#maas
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[05:43] <mup> Bug #1443257 was opened: 1.8b1: regiond.log reported as data file instead of ascii text by file <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443257>
[10:19] <mup> Bug #1443344 was opened: MAAS node details page shows BMC password in cleartext <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443344>
[10:19] <mup> Bug #1443346 was opened: utils.fs.atomic_write does not preserve file ownership <MAAS:In Progress by ubuntudotcom1> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443346>
[10:44] <AskUbuntu> in a public/private network deployment of MAAS + Openstack why does MAAS need to know about the public network? | http://askubuntu.com/q/608697
[12:29] <mup> Bug #1443408 was opened: Web UI ignores "Choose your image" and deploys some other image anyway <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443408>
[12:29] <mup> Bug #1443410 was opened: Node.devices and Device.objects return different model classes <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443410>
[12:41] <mup> Bug #1443408 changed: Web UI ignores "Choose your image" and deploys some other image anyway <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443408>
[12:41] <mup> Bug #1443410 changed: Node.devices and Device.objects return different model classes <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443410>
[12:50] <mup> Bug #1443425 was opened: Node page displays network section offset off the right of the screen in web UI <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443425>
[12:50] <mup> Bug #1443408 was opened: Web UI ignores "Choose your image" and deploys some other image anyway <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443408>
[12:50] <mup> Bug #1443410 was opened: Node.devices and Device.objects return different model classes <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443410>
[13:05] <mup> Bug #1443425 changed: Node page displays network section offset off the right of the screen in web UI <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443425>
[14:17] <mup> Bug #1248475 changed: Ubuntu version drop-downs don't reflect contents of the PXE config file <hwe> <landscape> <papercut> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1248475>
[14:29] <mup> Bug #1248475 was opened: Ubuntu version drop-downs don't reflect contents of the PXE config file <hwe> <landscape> <papercut> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1248475>
[14:35] <mup> Bug #1248475 changed: Ubuntu version drop-downs don't reflect contents of the PXE config file <hwe> <landscape> <papercut> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1248475>
[14:35] <mup> Bug #1443473 was opened: 1.8b2 Cluster details page allows user to change cluster status back to pending or rejected <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443473>
[14:50] <mup> Bug #1443473 changed: 1.8b2 Cluster details page allows user to change cluster status back to pending or rejected <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443473>
[15:52] <AskUbuntu> Juju - Can't access juju charm store | http://askubuntu.com/q/608792
[16:02] <mup> Bug #1443519 was opened: when bind reloading is locking, regiond complete blocks. <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443519>
[17:14] <mup> Bug #1443548 was opened: 1.8b2: After executing an action such as deploy, we should get back to filtered list <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443548>
[19:14] <nocker> hi
[19:14] <nocker> question, if I set up a maas server (as cluster and region), with two different networks
[19:14] <nocker> maas-region will be configured in one of the interfaces
[19:15] <nocker> so, nodes connected to the other interface cannot reach the metadataserver
[19:15] <nocker> Do I need to configure the server to route the traffic from the second interface to the ip where region controller is running?
[20:06] <mup> Bug #962895 changed: When nodes are deleted, the dashboard does not return to the state it's in when you first load the dashboard with no nodes present. <dashboard> <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/962895>
[20:06] <mup> Bug #962900 changed: The summary message ("X nodes in this MAAS") on the dashboard flickers when lots of nodes are added. <dashboard> <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/962900>
[20:06] <mup> Bug #971704 changed: Dashboard graph with lots of nodes (>100) in the same state makes the other nodes practically invisible <dashboard> <exploratory-testing> <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/971704>
[20:06] <mup> Bug #1443627 was opened: 1.8beta2: MAAS failes to release nodes <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443627>
[20:06] <mup> Bug #1443631 was opened: maas1.8beta2: Unhandled Error in mark_failed() when stopping regiond <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443631>
[20:24] <mup> Bug #984117 changed: MAAS does not summarise reserved nodes on home page <dashboard> <trivial> <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/984117>
[20:24] <mup> Bug #993734 changed: Dashboard hover message does not update on node change <dashboard> <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/993734>
[20:24] <mup> Bug #1237385 changed: The fast path installer can be enabled on ARM nodes. <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237385>
[20:24] <mup> Bug #1238164 changed: maas-import-ephemerals keeps local .tar.gz files cached which is unnecessary <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238164>
[20:54] <mup> Bug #1443644 was opened: hwe kernels should not be part of the architecture <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443644>
[22:06] <mup> Bug #1443671 was opened: Can't recommission to correct bad IPMI password without hacking node state into Commissioning via SQL <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443671>
[22:12] <mup> Bug #1443673 was opened: No good way to set a default password to use for IPMI, instead of the random password <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443673>
[22:26] <bmorriso> How do I determine what password was set for the ubuntu user so I can access the host on the console?
[22:49] <bmorriso> Is there a way to wipe a disk via the API or CLI?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.780179
| 2015-04-13T00:00:00 |
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"AskUbuntu",
"bmorriso",
"mup",
"nocker"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/13/%23maas.txt",
"channel": "#maas"
}
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-fi
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[04:09] <Mikaela> weechat tosin täällä ja communi-sailfish puhelimella
[10:53] <elias_a> Vinkiksi teille, jotka käytätte Deja-dupia ja törmäätte siihen, että se ei osaakaan poistaa vanhoja backup-tiedostoja vaikka levytila alkaa loppumaan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73163/how-do-i-delete-old-backup-files
[11:16] <elias_a> Paitsi että tuo ei toimikaan noin. Deja-dup ei osaa deletoida näköjään vanhoja pois jos muutan asetusta jälkeenpäin.
[11:17] <elias_a> http://askubuntu.com/questions/92957/why-isnt-deja-dup-making-room-for-more-backups
[11:47] <tale> elias_a: Ehkä deja-dup ajaa poistoja vain kerran vuorokaudessa?
[11:49] <elias_a> tale: Tuossa tapauksessa luulisi, että jos ennen deja-dupin ajamista on pienentänyt säilyttämistä säätelevän muuttujan puolesta vuodesta 60 päivään ja ajanut deja-dupin, datan määrän pitäisi vähentyä kohdejärjestelmässä.
[11:49] <elias_a> tale: Noin ei kuitenkaan käy.
[11:51] <elias_a> Olisi tietysti helpompaa debugata tuota jos tietäisi miten deja-dupin saa käynnistettyä lokittamisen käynnistävän ympäristömuuttujan kanssa.
[11:51] <elias_a> Softaa vain ei näytä pystyvän käynnistävän komentokehotteesta.
[11:52] <tale> elias_a: Voiko duplicity:n käynnistää suoraan?
[11:53] <elias_a> tale: Voi, mutta mitäs iloa siitä on kun ne vivut tarttis saada deja-dupista, jotta tietää mitä on korjaamassa?
[11:54] <tale> ahaa. Minulla on kokemusta vain BackupPC:stä, se poistaa tiedostoja vain keskiyön siivousajon yhteydessä.
[11:54] <elias_a> Jotain outoa tuossa on...
[11:55] <elias_a> Nyt kun pienensin "säilytä x päivää" arvoa 45:een, alkoi poistua dataa.
[11:56] <elias_a> Sama backupsetuppi on kuitenkin ollut jo 5kk, joten luulisi, että 60 päivää vanhempaa kamaakin olisi ollut ja runsaasti.
[11:57] <elias_a> Katsotaan nyt, miten käy. Ehkä se jopa saattaakin toimia.
[11:57] <elias_a> Olennainen ymmärtämistä haittaava juttu deja-dupin dokumentaatiossa on se, että se haluaa säilyttää aina vähintään kaksi täyttä backupia.
[12:05] <elias_a> No eipä sieltä kyllä kovin paljoa lähtenyt.
[12:19] <tale> elias_a: Jos Deja-Dup tekee samoin kuin BackupPC eli hard link jos sama tiedosto on jo levyllä, niin toinen full backup saattaa viedä vain pari prosenttia lisää levytilaa.
[12:19] <tale> Eikä silloin kovin paljon vapaudu levyä jos niitä vanhoja poistaa.
[12:20] <elias_a> tale: Juu. Ei se silti sitä ihmetystä poista, että niitä full-backup -tiedostoja on viime vuoden puolelta runsaastikin.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.793692
| 2015-04-13T00:00:00 |
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"Mikaela",
"elias_a",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
}
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-unity
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[09:19] <tsdgeos> Saviq: you say that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1441822 is asme as https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1431957 ?
[09:19] <tsdgeos> but there is no running activity indicator running tha ti can see
[09:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I'm saying the underlying cause is the same
[09:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, the switch to Animator
[09:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, there is an invisible + !running ActivityIndicator there
[09:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, but still it hogs CPU
[09:20] <Saviq> loicm is looking into it
[09:21] <tsdgeos> ok
[09:24] <greyback> QSG_VISUALIZE=changes is handy for that, if the culprit is occluded
[09:26] <tsdgeos> greyback: not visible as not visible
[09:26] <tsdgeos> not as there's something on top of it
[09:26] <greyback> ah ok
[09:27] <tsdgeos> can someone top approve https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/qt55/+merge/254418 ?
[09:28] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: do you remmeber why i didn't approve https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity-api/filters-iface/+merge/252890 ?
[09:28] <tsdgeos> was it because we where waiting on the other parts of the puzzle?
[09:29] <Saviq> tsdgeos, in theory it should be APPLICATION_API_INCLUDEDIR there...
[09:29] <tsdgeos> trueth
[09:29] <tsdgeos> is that defined?
[09:30] <tsdgeos> it is
[09:30] * tsdgeos fixes
[09:30] <Saviq> pkg_check_modules
[09:31] <Saviq> mzanetti, looks like window pills are lost https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1443319
[09:31] <mzanetti> mhm
[09:31] <mzanetti> I have a branch that improves things in regard to that
[09:32] <mzanetti> but I'd need dednick's one to land first
[09:32] <Saviq> heh, landing is a difficult topic atm :P
[09:32] <mzanetti> yeah well... there's even more to that
[09:32] <mzanetti> https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/desktop-app-focus/+merge/251731
[09:33] <mzanetti> this conflicts all over, and requires daniel's approved branch to land first
[09:33] <mzanetti> so :D
[09:33] <mzanetti> yeah, eventually I'll get that bug fixed :D
[09:37] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, hi! no particular reason, i wasn't pushing for it because we shouldn't probably land this till filters are better defined. if you're happy with it for now, then please approve but i won't land it yet
[09:37] <tsdgeos> ok
[09:37] <tsdgeos> done
[09:37] <tsdgeos> but yeah we need some more definition in that regard
[09:48] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i've made the change in case you want to top approve it again so that it says the proper rev number
[09:49] <Saviq> kk
[09:50] <dednick> mzanetti: i think daniel has fixed this already.
[09:52] <dednick> i remember merging the changes that fixed it into my desktop menus branch last week.
[09:54] <dednick> mzanetti: r1688: DesktopStage - fix focus switch when user taps on window
[09:54] <mzanetti> dednick, ah ok... the testDesktopShell is still useful though (and the reason why my branches depend on this one)
[09:55] <mzanetti> dednick, will you still get that prepared for a merge then?
[09:55] <mzanetti> or should I take over?
[09:55] <dednick> mzanetti: ah. erm, i just deleted the proposal
[09:55] <mzanetti> nooo :D
[09:56] <mzanetti> i have like 5 branches based on it :D
[09:56] <mzanetti> no prob... I'll manage
[09:56] <dednick> mzanetti: buuut. we don't need the desktop shell test. it should be part of testShell apparently
[09:56] <dednick> mzanetti: you can change the type in testShell
[09:56] <dednick> we just need to add a desktop case
[09:57] <dednick> mzanetti: there's a testDesktopStage now though
[09:57] <mzanetti> dednick, I need the shell
[09:58] <mzanetti> oh well... I could mock the PhysicalKeyFilter for that
[09:58] <mzanetti> but then I rather just use the tryShell
[09:58] <dednick> mzanetti: hm. ok. my branch is stil there, i just deleted the proposal. so you can pull out the parts that you need.
[09:59] <mzanetti> yeah... I'll probably just keep it as is then
[09:59] <mzanetti> and have some of your changes in my next MP
[09:59] <dednick> mzanetti: hm. let me update my branch to move the tst_DesktopShell into tst_Shell.
[10:00] <dednick> I need it for my menu stuff anyway. nothing better to do right at this minute.
[10:27] <tsdgeos> is it me or the search line edit in the dash is "broken" in vivid?
[10:27] <tsdgeos> seems like the text is "too high" vertically
[10:29] <dednick> mzanetti: ah. looks like there still is a problem with the app focus.
[10:31] <mzanetti> dednick, yeah... but no prob... I'm working on that anyways
[10:43] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, I don't see any issue
[10:43] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[10:43] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: how new is the imagE?
[10:43] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, not the latest...
[10:44] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, I'm pulling...
[10:45] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: http://imgur.com/Ye0yvFx is what i havge
[10:45] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, oh yeah... it did jump up... that can't be right
[10:47] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, are you on r170?
[10:47] <tsdgeos> latest
[10:47] <tsdgeos> yeah 170 on nexus4
[10:51] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, here too now... can certainly verify this mis-alignment
[10:51] <tsdgeos> k
[10:55] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, it's on the aquaris too
[10:58] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I think there's even a UITK bug for that
[10:58] <Saviq> tsdgeos, bug #1378784
[10:59] <Saviq> MacSlow, so, unity8 built from your branch just crashes 30% of the time on startup outside of autopilot here, I'm trying to get it all built in the demo-stuff PPA (except for your unity8 shellRotation branch) so that we're all on the same apge
[11:00] <Saviq> the crash isn't nice though
[11:00] <MacSlow> Saviq, ok
[11:01] <Saviq> tsdgeos, any ideas how to progress with http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791597/ - gdb and apport say thread 1 sigsegv'ed
[11:01] <Saviq> the property=0x0 seems suspect
[11:02] * tsdgeos checks the line
[11:03] <tsdgeos> yeah propety 0 is bad
[11:03] <tsdgeos> can we reproduce it?
[11:03] <Saviq> tsdgeos, relatively easily, yes
[11:05] <tsdgeos> Saviq: can you try to reproduce with QV4_FORCE_INTERPRETER=1 ? may give us a cleaner backtrace
[11:05] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yup, tryin
[11:17] <Saviq> tsdgeos, looks like that prevents the crash
[11:17] <tsdgeos> booo
[11:18] <tsdgeos> so it's the JIT that's making it crash :/
[11:20] <tsdgeos> or seems it may be
[11:21] <tsdgeos> Saviq: give it QV4_MM_AGGRESSIVE_GC=1 also
[11:21] <tsdgeos> and some patience
[11:21] <tsdgeos> see if that chnages anything
[11:21] <tsdgeos> and maybe change QV4_FORCE_INTERPRETER=1 to just QV4_NO_REGALLOC=1 to see if it's not the interpreter but the registry allocator that may be wrong
[11:23] <Saviq> tsdgeos, good!
[11:24] <Saviq> tsdgeos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815138/
[11:25] <Saviq> except that crash looks completely different..
[11:26] <tsdgeos> yeah
[11:26] <tsdgeos> but may actually be the root cause
[11:26] <Saviq> indeed
[11:27] <tsdgeos> where is this coming from? new crash?
[11:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, shell rotation
[11:27] <tsdgeos> :/
[11:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, this is what MacSlow|lunch's been fighting these past weeks
[11:30] <tsdgeos> ouch :/
[11:30] <tsdgeos> food back later
[12:31] <tsdgeos> back
[13:26] <seb128> Saviq, libubuntu-system-settings ? what is that?
[13:26] <Saviq> seb128, libsystem-settings? /me no remembers ;P
[13:26] <Saviq> seb128, whatever the settings app and wizard use to actually act in the system ;)
[13:26] <seb128> ah, we don't have a lib
[13:26] <seb128> unsure if the wizard still uses u-s-s backends?
[13:27] <Saviq> libsystemsettings1 ??
[13:27] <Saviq> looks like you do
[13:28] <seb128> Saviq, that lib is to write settings panel outside of the u-s-s tree
[13:28] <seb128> like uoa is doing
[13:28] <Saviq> mhm
[13:28] <seb128> it's not having any useful code for doing actions
[13:28] <seb128> the wizard might import private .so from u-s-s though
[13:28] <Saviq> seb128, yeah, I'll leave to mterry to triage
[13:28] <seb128> k
[15:03] <om26er_> tsdgeos, Hi!
[15:03] <tsdgeos> om26er_: hi
[15:03] <tsdgeos> om26er_: i'm in a meeting, is it urgent or can i ping you back in a bit?
[15:03] <om26er_> tsdgeos, sure, ping me back
[15:04] <om26er_> it was re: bug 1417991
[17:30] <tsdgeos> om26er: sorry the meeting took a lot and then i eod'ed
[17:30] <tsdgeos> om26er: can you ping me tomorrow? or is it quick?
[17:30] <om26er> tsdgeos, I figured it... and approved the silo
[17:31] <tsdgeos> ok, good i guess
[17:31] <tsdgeos> sorry
[22:19] <dandrader> hooray! a new unity8 release!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.801170
| 2015-04-13T00:00:00 |
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"MacSlow",
"Saviq",
"dandrader",
"dednick",
"greyback",
"mzanetti",
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"pstolowski",
"seb128",
"tsdgeos"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
}
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2015-04-13-#ubuntustudio
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[04:16] <Guest22524> Is that a bad thing?
[06:30] <mrpl> burp
[06:33] <catchwater> hi
[16:44] <joel__> comment tourner une image de fond d'ecran avec ubuntustudio
[16:44] <joel__> faire un quart de tour
[23:32] <Patero-ng> why did ubunbu crashed on my on a run of live version on a stable computer
[23:34] <Patero-ng> it showed green blocks like a tetris game
[23:34] <Patero-ng> and boom!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.804627
| 2015-04-13T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Guest22524",
"Patero-ng",
"catchwater",
"joel__",
"mrpl"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/13/%23ubuntustudio.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[01:40] <ChinnoDog> JonathanD: 40?
[09:23] <rmg51> Morning
[11:12] <JonathanD> ChinnoDog: yes.
[11:13] <JonathanD> ChinnoDog: typoed window number
[11:33] <waltman> JonathanD: only 40? why so low?
[12:25] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples and whatever else is around
[12:31] <JonathanD> waltman: heh :)
[14:40] <lazyPower> \o
[14:40] <lazyPower> all i have to say: Landscape system management is the bees knees.
[16:13] <waltman> lazyPower: It's so much better than portrait system management!
[16:13] <lazyPower> ikr!
[16:13] <lazyPower> just remember.... ROTATE before you manage, always.
[19:01] <ChinnoDog> I removed xorg-edgers but I still can't install the lts enablement packages. There are conflicts in apt.
[19:05] <ChinnoDog> http://pastebin.com/smFjmHx5
[19:05] <ChinnoDog> I tried using apt-get -s install on the conflicting packages and it leads me to things like telling me it can't install unity8
[19:17] <ChinnoDog> If I try to install xserver-xorg-lts-utopic through synaptic it tells me I have to uninstall all sorts of irrelevant apps like cheese
[19:36] <ChinnoDog> I'm letting aptitude fix it but this may break my Ubuntu completely.
[20:15] <ChinnoDog> I seem to have make it all work without breaking everything. I had to reinstall wine, ubuntu-desktop, and ubuntu-sdk though because aptitude insisted it must be removed to install the LTS enablement packages.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.808958
| 2015-04-13T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"ChinnoDog",
"JonathanD",
"lazyPower",
"rmg51",
"teddy-dbear",
"waltman"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/13/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-news
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[01:07] <pleia2> anyone else about to write summaries? ahoneybun?
[01:07] * pleia2 starts moving things over && prep wiki
[01:11] * ahoneybun looks to write pausing The Walking Dead
[01:11] <pleia2> :D
[01:12] <pleia2> thanks!
[01:14] <Unit193> ahoneybun: Didn't that end two weeks ago?
[01:15] <ahoneybun> Unit193: Netflix :)
[01:15] <ahoneybun> pleia2: sorry I've been lazy this whole weekend
[01:17] <ahoneybun> things are moving! lol
[01:17] <pleia2> haha, sorry, moving stuff over to the wiki :)
[01:18] <ahoneybun> and someone is adding summaries
[01:19] <pleia2> looks like only two people in the document, me and you
[01:20] <pleia2> I do some editorial review when I move stuff over
[01:20] <ahoneybun> yep
[01:23] <Unit193> Sorry, but I've turned out to be terrible with writing those. :3
[01:24] <ahoneybun> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/the-power-of-software-defined-networking-appliances-sdna/ this is a bit out of my range lol
[01:25] <pleia2> ahoneybun: no worries :) I'll take care of it, thanks for your help with the blogosphere articles! be sure to add your name to the bottom of the doc
[01:27] <ahoneybun> np pleia2 I'll try to get more next wee
[01:27] <ahoneybun> *week
[01:36] <pleia2> Unit193: it's not for everyone :) care to link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue412
[01:41] <Unit193> That I can.
[01:43] <Unit193> Good.
[02:04] <pleia2> thanks
[05:46] <PaulW2U> added an "Other Article of Interest" to the wiki
[06:57] <MooDoo> sorry all i did one summary then had a problem with a non sleepy daughter.....:S
[15:29] <PaulW2U> editorial review done
[22:30] <pleia2> wow, I've been trying to release this newsletter for a half hour now
[22:30] <pleia2> work keeps pinging me D:
[22:46] <pleia2> once this is done, I'll get the loco council call for nominees up on the fridge
[22:46] <wxl> yay
[22:47] <pleia2> and tomorrow we should have news re: membership board
[22:47] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 412 for the week April 6 - 12, 2015 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue412
[22:47] <pleia2> it's nice when hotel wifi cooperates :)
[23:01] <pleia2> ok, all done, off to conference social now \o/
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[13:12] <dpm> popey, pleia2, was there an announcement of the result of the restaffing of the membership board? Last thing I saw was the extended call for nominations. Does https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board/+members#active reflect the current board members? (i.e. it seems only one's membership is due to expire in about 2 weeks)
[13:12] <popey> cc are discussing today
[13:12] <popey> announce tomorrow AIUI
[13:13] <dpm> ok, thanks popey
[13:14] <czajkowski> dpm: vote closes today we should be able to give you an update ASAP
[13:15] <dpm> czajkowski, sounds great, thanks for the update
[13:36] <dholbach> hey hey
[13:37] <dholbach> dpm, do you still expect us to have our 1-on-1 today?
[13:38] <dholbach> dpm, there's a snappy standup at the same time and I would like to get a good idea of what's planned
[13:38] <dholbach> dpm, if you want, I could update you maybe tomorrow or something?
[13:44] <dpm> dholbach, hey
[13:44] <dpm> dholbach, no worries, I wasn't expecting to have the call,
[13:44] <dpm> I already thought you'd be busy sprinting
[13:44] <dholbach> :)
[13:45] <dpm> davidcalle might want to sync up with you later
[13:46] <dholbach> sure sure
[13:56] <jose> dpm: hey, sent you a PM
[13:59] <dpm> jose, sorry, I was otp
[13:59] <dpm> done now
[13:59] <jose> np
[15:47] <dholbach> dpm, mhall119, popey, balloons: I'd like to run the community q&a tomorrow - I don't know... is anyone of you interested in helping out?
[15:47] <dholbach> my idea was to bring on some of the snappy folks, like mvo and beuno and make it a snappy themed thing
[15:57] <popey> dholbach: sure, dpm and mhall119 did last week, I'm happy to do this week.
[16:00] <mhall119> dholbach: that would be fun, is your network good enough there?
[16:06] <dholbach> mhall119, I hope it'll have stabilised until tomorrow morning :)
[16:08] <dholbach> popey, cool!
[16:11] <dpm> dholbach, sounds like a great idea
[16:12] <dholbach> cool
[16:32] * popey pokes mhall119 balloons dpm
[16:33] <balloons> popey, coming :-)
[16:35] <balloons> feel free to blame me, I talk to much.. dpm was trying to leave, I just wouldn't let'em
[16:35] <dpm> mhall119, team planning call?
[16:35] <mhall119> dpm: popey balloons dholbach_ I'mgoing to miss the call, my wife is stranded with a dead car battery, I've got to go rescue her
[16:35] * balloons imagines mhall119 with a cape
[16:35] * mhall119 is batman
[16:40] <popey> mhall119: when you're back later can we have a catch up about the podcast
[16:40] <mhall119> sure
[16:40] <mhall119> ok, off now, bbl
[16:40] <popey> thanks
[20:11] <mhall119> popey: sorry I didn't get back to you, you still wnat to chat about the podcast?
[20:11] <popey> mhall119: it's a bit late now, shall we talk tomorrow?
[20:12] <mhall119> popey: works for me,hopefully nothing goes wrong tomorrow :)
[20:12] <popey> hah
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-hr
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[04:43] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro
[05:26] <Mmike> Gut Morgen
[05:26] <Mmike> vileni: lol (re: mercedes s krovnim nosacem :) )
[05:50] <BotaniCar> Jutro !
[05:51] <vileni> Mmike: da nije rege, pomislio bih da je rusija :)
[07:05] <tonil> jelly, naletih na ovog endema,iako su na balkanu cajke u porastu nije ni u murici drugacije https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWMw4vE3J8s
[07:05] <datase> YouTube: Rich Homie Quan - Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh) - 0:03:01 - 2,622,338 views - 22790 likes / 2140 dislikes
[08:41] <tonil> http://i.imgur.com/IemCA0w.gifv
[08:55] <SilverSpace> dan
[09:00] <SilverSpace> bome Legend jos uvijek radi super sa CM romom
[09:14] <vileni> SilverSpace: koja verzija? :)
[10:42] <weshmashian> mornin'
[10:43] <SilverSpace> CM 7.2 za legend
[10:43] <SilverSpace> vileni: android 2.3.7
[10:44] <SilverSpace> to je zadnja stable
[10:44] <SilverSpace> nisam probao bete 4.2
[10:46] <CrazyLemon> CM više nema stable brancha ツ
[10:47] <CrazyLemon> tako da traži milestone
[10:49] <rut> dd
[10:49] <SilverSpace> CrazyLemon: aha
[10:50] <SilverSpace> CrazyLemon: http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=legend
[10:50] <CrazyLemon> SilverSpace nemas srece :)
[10:50] <SilverSpace> :)
[10:51] <SilverSpace> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562595&page=164
[10:51] <SilverSpace> ima beta verzija to mi se ne da stavljati
[10:52] <SilverSpace> ovo radi sasvim solidno na legend
[10:52] <CrazyLemon> ja bi trebao naci motherboard za S2.. jos uvijek je super uredjaj i jedan ljepsih telefona till date
[10:54] <SilverSpace> jucer u kutiji naso htc legend vec i zaboravio na njega i reko da vidim jel su sto popravili sa rotanjem bilo je prije komplicirano to napraviti
[10:54] <SilverSpace> i vidi vraga ima alat
[10:54] <SilverSpace> i sve ok proslo
[10:54] <SilverSpace> CM
[10:54] <SilverSpace> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_legend
[10:55] <SilverSpace> prije je to bilo fakat zajebano
[10:55] <SilverSpace> jos sam imao i krivu verziju HBOOT_a
[10:57] <SilverSpace> mogo bi sad i sony :)
[10:58] * SilverSpace je ljeni pero za te stvari
[11:00] * CrazyLemon nije ljen a ni pero ali radije koristi offical android OTA update
[11:50] <Mmike> SilverSpace: jel' ima kaj za s3 mini da je jednostavno uturit na njega?
[12:20] <tonil> rut, vozdra mesas li 'sta
[12:21] <tonil> Mmike, kolio su ti romovi sigurni u usporedbi sa offical,cini mi se sve kao 2004 i windows xp black ultra edition,zato se bojim upustati
[12:29] <Mmike> tonil: zast pretpostavljas da su oficial romovi sigurni :)
[12:30] <tonil> Mmike, hunch zasto ne bi bili korejski osim kineskoga shita
[12:30] <SilverSpace> Mmike: cemo pogledati :)
[12:31] <tonil> Mmike, zar se stavaljanjem custom solucije ne izdvajas iz mora vecine i postajes interesantna meta
[12:31] <tonil> kako bilo zaba bankarstvo ne bih stavljao ni na oficial ni na custom
[12:31] <tonil> :\
[12:32] <SilverSpace> tonil: toliko ljudi radi oko toga dali stvarno mislis da se netko ne bi izlanuo
[12:32] <tonil> SilverSpace, prepostavka je majka svih zajeba
[12:33] <jelly> SilverSpace: ko se izlane, pravac gitmo
[12:33] <SilverSpace> jelly: :)
[12:35] <SilverSpace> ne mogu xperia miro natjerati u fastboot mode
[12:35] <SilverSpace> kaj god radio
[12:36] <SilverSpace> Vol+ button on your xperia device, connect USB Cable to PC
[12:36] <SilverSpace> i to ne radi
[12:40] <tonil> SilverSpace, ajde kad si u tome,molio bi te za savjet,preporuka zamjene za note 4
[12:40] <tonil> nesto snaznije ali manje
[12:40] <tonil> da ima ok kameru
[12:41] <SilverSpace> jebemu kak kak ne radi a bez toga ne mogu otkljucati bootloader
[12:41] <SilverSpace> koji sam dobio na sluzbenoj stranici
[12:42] <SilverSpace> tonil: kaj kupujes novi mob note je sasvim ok
[12:43] <tonil> SilverSpace, dati cu ovaj prijateljici,uzeo bi za sebe nesto flagshipa
[12:44] <SilverSpace> nerado dajem takve savjete za to moras sam se odlucit
[13:08] <rut> ko sto flesa ?
[13:08] <rut> silver sto flesas ?
[13:08] <BotaniCar> Hvalio se Amerikanac Bosancu kako ima ranč kojeg ne može za tri dana autom obići, a Bosanac će njemu:
[13:08] <BotaniCar> – Im'o sam i ja taki auto pa sam ga prod'o.
[13:08] <rut> tonil sto tebe muci ?
[13:09] <rut> tonil ne mjesam nista .. ko je vidio musko mjesat ??!!
[13:09] <rut> muffin :)
[13:11] <rut> muffin .. daj nemoj me .. pa necu sam vodit konverzaciju
[13:16] <tonil> rut, proliće je,muci me nejebica
[13:16] <tonil> posto sam izbirljiv
[13:16] <rut> tonil pa di je ona sa fax-a ?
[13:16] <rut> tonil desanka .. ?
[13:17] <tonil> rut, draze su mi iz livna, ona sa faxa,bojim se da bio pokupio stogod od nje,a nije mi bas pristojno da kazem platit cu prvo testiranje
[13:17] <rut> tonil aj . nadi nesto i uzivaj
[13:17] <rut> tonil neda mi se o sexu i vezama i tome sl. pisat
[13:18] <tonil> rut, sto se desilo,zar je umro lastan,prije dvije godine jedva si bio docekao
[13:18] <tonil> :\ kako se neki ljudi promjene
[13:25] <rut> ko kaze da sam se promjenio
[13:25] <rut> tonil ostao sam isti
[13:27] <BotaniCar> Bah
[13:27] <BotaniCar> Pričaju dva klinca i jedan kaže:– Moj tata je bolji ot tvoga! – E pa moja mama je bolja od tvoje! – Znam! To kaže i moj tata!!
[13:44] <tonil> BotaniCar, Who needs bitches when you can have cows - http://i.imgur.com/G5bDaRl.jpg
[13:44] <BotaniCar> Opa, lizanje na najjace ! :) Ovako nisam ni tripove lizao ! :)
[13:54] <Vlado9A3CY> bon žur
[14:14] <ivoks> ima netko od vas volkswagen?
[14:14] <ivoks> koji je dobar vw servis kod nas?
[14:28] <jelly> https://github.com/tdryer/hangups open sos klajent za gugl hengauts
[14:40] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kHl4FoK1Ys
[14:40] <datase> YouTube: Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul - 0:03:15 - 49,322,188 views - 112290 likes / 4177 dislikes
[14:49] <Mmike> ivoks: kaj ti je, pa mi smo gospoda :0
[14:51] <ivoks> http://lajk.s3.index.hr/index/800/9622e3d1-db6b-4865-9973-77a53242d7aa.jpeg
[14:51] <ivoks> ne to
[14:51] <ivoks> https://scontent-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11119105_10206481871746058_4735808845526648442_n.jpg?oh=f7b64e6d7a4a0314b11c8663668dc074&oe=55A0652C
[14:51] <ivoks> to
[15:08] <jelly> dakle ti ne znaš koliko poreza imaš platit? :-)
[15:22] <Mmike> Upoznal sam kolegu slovenca :) Srecom on prica hrvatski :)
[15:30] <jelly> A gde je Nataša? Muči me to
[16:15] <ivoks> Mmike: a, kak se ono zove...
[16:15] <ivoks> pricao sam s njim neki dan
[16:15] <ivoks> Mmike: stara mu je hrvatica
[16:16] <ivoks> dakle
[16:16] <ivoks> shell kupio bg
[16:16] <ivoks> to je primarno lng kompanija
[16:17] <ivoks> hm hm
[16:17] <jelly> bg?
[16:18] <ivoks> bg group
[16:18] <jelly> hm, nikad cuo
[16:18] <ivoks> heh
[16:18] <ivoks> samo jedan od najvecih proizvodjaca plina
[16:19] * jelly zna za shell, bp, exxon i gazprom, i to je to
[16:19] <ivoks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BG_Group
[16:19] <jelly> ne bi ni za gazprom znao da nije rusija u vijestima
[16:20] <ivoks> znas i za aral
[16:20] <ivoks> i omv
[16:20] <ivoks> :D
[16:20] <ivoks> i lukoil
[16:20] <ivoks> al da... shell kupovinom bga ima ozbiljne pretenzije na lng
[16:21] <ivoks> ne bi jos rekao da odustaju od nafte, ali ovo je vise nego koketiranje s plinom
[16:23] <ivoks> http://www.shell.com/global/future-energy/natural-gas/liquefied-natural-gas/lng-market.html
[16:28] <Mmike> ivoks: kak stignes pricat s edom i tu ovo :)
[16:29] <jelly> prvi odlazak u penziju u firmi
[16:30] * jelly se ubio u francuskoj salati, rotkvicama, mladom luku i kolacima
[16:30] <Mmike> jelly: daj onaj URL o gitu opet, plz, nemrem do njega
[16:30] <jelly> hmn koji?
[16:30] <jelly> zadnje sto sam slao je cini mi se systemd ne git?
[16:32] <jelly> Mmike: a bio je i onaj za neke improved bzr -> git skripte, jel to mislis
[16:32] <Mmike> ne, ono sa git internal
[16:33] <markosejic> d dan
[16:35] <jelly> Mmike: fak, ne znam na sto mislis :-)
[16:35] <Mmike> jelly: mozda nisi ti posto
[16:37] <ivoks> Mmike: ja sve mogu
[16:37] <ivoks> Mmike: i popravljati probleme s kojima se bavite vec sat vremena
[16:37] <Mmike> ivoks: mene su zvali pred 2 minute :)
[16:37] <Mmike> ivoks: kad zavrsis, pingni
[16:37] <jelly> Mmike: ili to ili mi je pamcenje u kcu
[16:37] <ivoks> pa zavrsio sam
[16:37] <ivoks> sad moram drugima objasnjavati kako se to radi
[16:38] <ivoks> percona je sranje :)
[16:38] <Mmike> ivoks: may I take a look?
[16:38] <ivoks> vec sam resolvao
[16:38] <ivoks> sva tri noda su u syncy
[16:38] <ivoks> syncu
[16:38] <ivoks> grstate je za sve isti
[16:38] <ivoks> 150413 16:36:35 mysqld_safe WSREP: Recovered position cebceb8b-d7c0-11e4-b17e-9a956d498c70:3006553
[16:56] <Mmike> pojest cu najveci kebab u gradu
[16:58] <jelly> heh. connect to t.ht.ht[70.39.84.229]:25: No route to host
[16:59] <Mmike> NISAM JA
[17:00] <obruT> jelly: ht.ht ? :)
[17:01] <jelly> zanimljivo da postoji
[17:02] <frainfreeze> sve postoji
[17:02] <frainfreeze> osobito na .com, di god krenes neki kinezić se zasro -.-
[17:06] <Mmike> jelly: https://codewords.recurse.com/issues/two/git-from-the-inside-out
[17:06] <Mmike> jelly: al' sad kuzim da nisi to ti pejsto :)
[17:12] <jelly> to niko nije pejsto, bar ga u mom logu nema
[17:15] <Mmike> da
[17:15] <Mmike> ja sam se pogubio malo
[17:15] <Mmike> inace, vrijednos stivo
[17:19] <jelly> negdje sam imao neki git i teorija grafova link koji sam cak razumio :
[17:23] <jelly> mozda neka rana verzija onoga sto je sad na http://think-like-a-git.net/ al sad toga ima pun kua
[17:27] <frainfreeze> kupuje tko od vas na protisu?
[17:32] <frainfreeze> na izradbi narudzbe je padajuci izbornik koji, pazi sad, nepada.
[17:32] <frainfreeze> Pa nisam siguran jeli placanje na transakcijski racun jedina opcija ili je to bug.
[17:33] <frainfreeze> 88% da je bag jer site nije automatski izbacio jos neka polja :S
[17:37] <jelly> frainfreeze: u protisu, ducanu, da
[17:38] <jelly> na webu ne, jer je lakse prosetat se 5 minuta
[17:38] <frainfreeze> jelly, ma da?
[17:38] <frainfreeze> 5 min? ako zivis 5 min od protisa :P
[17:39] <frainfreeze> meni je do protisa lipih 300km pa ako cu pješke... :)
[17:39] <jelly> dobro sad kad su se preselili dalje mozda je i 6 minuta
[17:41] <obruT> meni je protis usput doma s posla pa isto radije odem u ducan
[17:42] <jelly> di si ti doma da ti je usput
[17:42] <obruT> Voltino :)
[17:42] <jelly> ah
[18:07] <tonil> ivoks, koje kompanije spadaju pod tu grupaciju
[18:08] <tonil> sto se tice shella on je modenirizarni dutch east india company
[18:09] <tonil> stvarno kojom hebenom flotom bg grupacija operira
[18:11] <tonil> hahaha 25 carriera daj molim te
[18:12] <tonil> to je ko da je autodesk kupio nekog proizvođača plugina za 3dsmax
[18:13] <tonil> ivoks, aj kad imaju muda nek holandezi probaju belgijancima uzet exmar,e onda ćeš vidit belaja
[18:13] <tonil> tamo obični radnici putuju bizniss klasom
[18:25] <ivoks> tonil: pa...
[18:25] <ivoks> tonil: bg je najveci izvoznik plina u SAD-u
[18:26] <ivoks> tonil: i vlasnik tehnologije slicne frackingu
[18:26] <ivoks> pa sad... s obzirom da firma postoji tek 6 godina, a vec je neki igrac...
[18:28] <tonil> ivoks, jedan lundqvist postoji od 1928 i neke, glavni direktor ben putuje na posao biciklom,novi igraci nikad ne mogu smjenit nekoga tko drzi stoljetni monopol... te brojke ne znace nista takve kompanije su mjehuri koji se napusu i puknu,a u tom proces netko opere dosta novca
[18:28] <ivoks> sve je moguce
[18:39] <SilverSpace> jebo sony ne mogu ga nikako natjerati u fastboot mode
[18:55] <infy-> hi
[18:56] <infy-> kaj je fast boot
[18:56] <infy-> vidam to cesto al prelijen sam se educirat :(
[18:59] <SilverSpace> :)
[18:59] <SilverSpace> android mod
[18:59] <infy-> e pa da
[18:59] <infy-> pise meni na ovom
[18:59] <infy-> kineskom mediateku
[19:00] <infy-> fast boot u settings
[19:00] <infy-> al cemu?
[19:00] <SilverSpace> do kjek se dolazi nekom konbinacijom tipki kod paljenja
[19:00] <infy-> kjek?
[19:01] <SilverSpace> sony najcesce se drzi volume + i usteka se usb kabel kad je uredaj ugasen
[19:01] <infy-> za recovery?
[19:01] <SilverSpace> sto kod mene ne ide
[19:02] <infy-> tough luck :o
[19:02] * jelly pretpostavio da to daje brze bootanje nego kad je iskljuceno
[19:03] <SilverSpace> dobio kod od sony koji trebam ukucat da bi otkljucao uredaj a to bez toga ne mogu :(
[19:03] <jelly> nema pod settings?
[19:03] <SilverSpace> na htc sam to jucer uradio bez problema
[19:03] <infy-> http://imgur.com/lthYC1C
[19:03] <jelly> jebo vendorske romove
[19:04] <infy-> to to?
[19:04] <jelly> mozda, makar je cudno da pise "quick boot" umjesto "fast boot"
[19:04] <infy-> da
[19:04] <infy-> mediatek stuff
[19:05] <infy-> ovog dijela nema u AOSP
[19:05] <jelly> na mom mtku je bilo negdje kod developer tools / usb debug / tog sranja
[19:05] <SilverSpace> http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/79207/xperia-miro-fastboot-wont-work
[19:05] <SilverSpace> nisam jedini ima ih hrpu
[19:06] <infy-> miro wow imam jednog takvog kuci
[19:07] <infy-> znaci kad upises taj kôd, to je network lock skineš ili otkljucas bootloader ili... ?
[19:08] <SilverSpace> ima i naredba iz terminal adb reboot bootloader
[19:08] <SilverSpace> ali jebiga bootloder mora bit prija otkljucan
[19:08] <Mmike> jebem ti extra-skupe hotele koji nemogu imat normalan internet
[19:08] <SilverSpace> tako da se samo miro reboota i ne ude u mod
[19:09] <SilverSpace> Mmike: kaj je to normalni
[19:09] <SilverSpace> :)
[19:09] <infy-> jel ima mouda u developer options advanced boot menu?
[19:10] <infy-> ja mogu kad iden rebootat birat download, recovery, soft, hard
[19:10] <infy-> ako je to ukljuceno
[19:10] <SilverSpace> kaj je najgore uspio ga rootat bez toga :)
[19:10] <jelly> rotor? http://imgur.com/gallery/QeEtD6f
[19:11] <SilverSpace> ali bez otkljucavanja ne mogu ugurat novi rom
[19:11] <SilverSpace> nece cigan unutra
[19:12] <SilverSpace> jelly: lol
[19:13] <Mmike> SilverSpace: pa nemrem se usshjat doma
[19:13] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzTt1VnHRM
[19:13] <datase> YouTube: 8 Month Old Deaf Baby's Reaction To Cochlear Implant Being Activated - 0:00:50 - 8,231,383 views - 54129 likes / 689 dislikes
[19:14] <SilverSpace> Mmike: lol macka doma sjedi na zici :)
[19:15] <SilverSpace> oo mozda sam nasao rjesenje
[19:55] <infy-> je li uspilo?
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-discuss
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[04:20] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> new kernel is out:
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/linux-kernel-4-0-new-features
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:33] <OerHeks> Hi BluesKaj
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hi OerHeks
[11:51] <BluesKaj> what's up today ?
[11:53] <OerHeks> monday morning issues, nothing special.
[11:55] <OerHeks> In our dutch channel wants someone to mount a hdd in a VM to scan into a window7 vm for lost files :-D
[11:55] <OerHeks> really .. i need more coffee now
[11:56] <BluesKaj> that's a good idea
[11:56] * BluesKaj heads to the kitchen for more coffee
[11:58] * OerHeks shuffles to the kitchen too
[12:40] <lordievader> That is so not going to work...
[12:40] <lordievader> He lost his files. He just needs to accept that.
[14:54] <BluesKaj> found a dvd I
[14:55] <BluesKaj> been looking for
[14:56] <BluesKaj> for ages .. 2002 vintage , Deep Purple, The making of Machine Head
[15:20] <BluesKaj> altho the actual footage is from 1972 era
[15:21] <BluesKaj> oops wrong chat :)
[15:46] <daftykins> hehe
[15:51] <OerHeks> my internet is so fast, just heard ABBA split up
[16:48] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, ;-)
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu
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[00:00] <velho> Layl: Whats ya doin?
[00:00] <Layl> velho: installing ubuntu
[00:00] <Layl> on an existing windows install
[00:00] <Layl> that uses fakeraid
[00:01] <velho> Layl: Awesome! Sounds like fun lol. Tried the last beta out?
[00:01] <Layl> I'm using 14.10
[00:01] <Layl> not gonna layer up another level of dragons
[00:01] <Layl> I'm already knee deep in them
[00:03] <Layl> daftykins, the mount point for the ext4 one should be / right?
[00:03] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Just FYI, the secondary keyboard was recognized and I used that to get the driver for my primary mouse, and now I'm setting up the keyboard. Fingers crossed it'll work after reboot.
[00:03] <jonne> (y)
[00:05] <daftykins> Layl: yep
[00:05] <Layl> daftykins, it seems it couldn't create the swap space? I have no idea why or what is wrong
[00:05] <daftykins> did it give an error? is this gparted?
[00:06] <Layl> this is the installer
[00:06] <Layl> I've set it to use the swap partition for swap
[00:06] <Layl> and it says it couldn't create the swap space
[00:06] <Layl> I think it's trying to make a new one
[00:06] <daftykins> hmm
[00:07] <daftykins> just clicked to highlight, hit change, then set swap?
[00:07] <Layl> no wait, it's saying it about partition 6, which is the swap one
[00:07] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Finger crossing was successful, keyboard and mouse are functional.
[00:07] <Layl> yea I did that
[00:07] <Layl> should I format the swap partition to be sure
[00:07] <daftykins> from the outdated guide page - "Run the installer. When it gets to it's partitioner, change the mount point on the first partition to / DO NOT format it! Do NOT make any partition changes! The installer partitioner does not understand dmraid partitions properly "
[00:08] <Layl> I see, but that page doesn't at all resemble what I'm looking at
[00:08] <mrdeb> does anyone know fix for via openchrome driver corruption in 14.04, where it worked fine before with s3 kn400
[00:09] <daftykins> Layl: nah it doesn't use the same names and it is 5 years old heh
[00:09] <daftykins> seems sane though
[00:09] <Layl> "the creation of swap space in partition failed" is the error I'm getting
[00:10] <daftykins> hrmm
[00:10] <mrdeb> i dotn want to have to go back to windows xp on it
[00:11] <velho> mrdeb: Your error description is kind of transparent
[00:11] <mrdeb> velho: it is widespread problem after 13.10
[00:11] <velho> mrdeb: And mor or less ambigious
[00:11] <mrdeb> in all lniux versions
[00:12] <daftykins> mrdeb: the nasty VIA unichrome graphics? that hardware is so poor i would either not use it, or try using VESA only
[00:12] <mrdeb> daftykins: it works fine in 12.04 and deb 7
[00:12] <daftykins> velho: actually it's quite easy to follow if you're familiar with the chipset
[00:12] <mrdeb> why is it broken now
[00:12] <daftykins> mrdeb: so keep using 12.04? it's good until 2017
[00:12] <mrdeb> ok i will have to
[00:13] <Layl> daftykins, could it have anything to do with that the two partitions are together in an "extended" partition?
[00:13] <velho> daftykins: Well the question was "how to fix corruption as it worked before?"...
[00:13] <mrdeb> i want to know who broke it
[00:13] <daftykins> mrdeb: yeah good luck with that. it was rubbish hardware when it was new, so i'm amazed it worked as long as to 2012
[00:13] <daftykins> Layl: they are? i thought the EXT4 / was primary
[00:13] <mrdeb> ok
[00:14] <mrdeb> that doesnt mean u have to break driver when it worked before
[00:14] <mrdeb> seems very careful QA
[00:14] <mrdeb> less
[00:14] <Layl> daftykins, it is primary yes
[00:14] <mrdeb> do u agree
[00:14] <Layl> daftykins, here's the screenshot again with the details http://i.imgur.com/aFYkzsZ.jpg
[00:15] <daftykins> mrdeb: i'm afraid i don't really care for old hardware that belongs in a museum. feel free to ask in #linux whose fault it is though ;)
[00:15] <daftykins> Layl: hmm, i would delete those two and the extended partition - then recreate EXT4 as a primary
[00:16] <Layl> daftykins, will do, just gotta close out of the installer and do that then
[00:16] <treats> my filesysem os partition is full
[00:16] <hkrrsx> Back from dinner
[00:16] <treats> but I cant figure out what is causeing it
[00:16] <mrdeb> daftykins: should i stay with debian 7 on it if it will be longer support than 1204
[00:17] <treats> I used the disk analyzer tool, and cleaned things up, but it's not being reflected...
[00:17] <daftykins> mrdeb: this is not a debian channel :)
[00:17] <viejotren> hello, I have a problem with a package (python-pygame) on ubuntu 14.10. it has unmet dependence. the gccbase is newer on the OS. is there anyway to solve it?
[00:17] <daftykins> treats: "df -h | pastebinit" ?
[00:18] <hkrrsx> treats: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/check-your-disk-usage-on-ubuntu-with-disk-usage-analyzer/
[00:18] <hkrrsx> It *should* be built-in on Ubuntu
[00:18] <treats> hkrrsx: I used that and cleaned up the heavy hitters, but it didnt' seem to affect my df- h numbers
[00:19] <viejotren> apt-get -f install is not an option (does not work)
[00:19] <hkrrsx> treats: Then let's see that "df -h | pastebinit" as daftykins requested
[00:19] <alun0_> any php expert online ?
[00:19] <mrdeb> daftykins: so yes
[00:19] <daftykins> alun0_: try the PHP channel(s)
[00:19] <alun0_> could you tell me one please ?
[00:19] <daftykins> !alis | alun0_
[00:20] <daftykins> i'll take a wild stab and guess... #php ? ##php ?
[00:20] <treats> http://pastebin.com/DjadA4y5
[00:20] <hkrrsx> alun0_: /join ##php
[00:20] <alun0_> tks guys
[00:20] <daftykins> treats: what version is this?
[00:21] <treats> and the root dir utilization: http://pastebin.com/qrw8qKU4
[00:21] <mrdeb> how many years more can u use 1204 after 2017 if u put firefox in /opt for autoupdate
[00:21] <daftykins> mrdeb: you can't use 12.04 after April 2017.
[00:21] <treats> 14.01
[00:21] <treats> 14.04**
[00:21] <daftykins> it's dead
[00:21] <daftykins> treats: have you run a "sudo apt-get autoremove" ?
[00:22] <mrdeb> daftykins: yes i can it will work
[00:22] <hkrrsx> treats: Check your /var/log directory for large log files
[00:22] <mrdeb> and u can dl firefox from mozilla nad keep updating it
[00:22] <daftykins> mrdeb: right but it's not supported and you shouldn't do it. it'll be dead.
[00:22] <mrdeb> did u know this? i did
[00:22] <daftykins> mrdeb: that's a really unwise idea.
[00:22] <mrdeb> but computer wont work with 1404 so i would have to see how far debian 7 lts goes
[00:22] <daftykins> treats: i suspect your / volume has hit the 5% reserved for the user 'root' issue
[00:22] <daftykins> i can't comment on debian.
[00:23] <daftykins> or you could replace that ancient graphics hardware of yours :)
[00:23] <Layl> it does not immediately stop, this is an improvement
[00:24] <mrdeb> computer still works
[00:24] <Layl> computer has not been on fire in the last 5 minutes
[00:24] <daftykins> mrdeb: yes but there are safety and security issues with being online... it seems you do not understand this
[00:24] <treats> two things: I see my kern.log.1 at 1542576
[00:24] <treats> safe to delete?
[00:24] <hkrrsx> NO
[00:24] <daftykins> that's tiny.
[00:24] <hkrrsx> Excuse the caps
[00:24] <treats> lol
[00:25] <treats> no big logs than
[00:25] <daftykins> treats: did you run apt-get autoremove yet?
[00:25] <Layl> I should probably be running LTS as well but I can't quite be bothered with the nightmare of outdated packages again
[00:26] <treats> it's docker!
[00:26] <daftykins> non-LTS makes me a very sad panda
[00:26] <daftykins> treats: what?
[00:26] <Layl> it's at least a step up from my previous install: all win8
[00:26] <treats> docker is using my os partition to pull down it's images
[00:26] <daftykins> heh.
[00:26] <treats> need to clean that up and change its behavior
[00:26] <treats> no access to folder... i'll figure it out
[00:27] <treats> I saw a group permission set to "whoopsie"
[00:27] <treats> is this alarming?
[00:27] <treats> I don't recognize the name
[00:27] <daftykins> no that's some kinda bug process i think
[00:27] <treats> thanks daftykins
[00:27] <daftykins> bug related user
[00:32] <jmg> hey guys, how do i change the banner name for exim4
[00:32] <hkrrsx> jmg: /join #exim
[00:35] <rexuss> Hi, I'm using a static IP for my lubuntu, however, when I checked the NetworkManager.conf file, I didn't see any IP address there. I also checked the /etc/network/interfaces file and it doesn't show any IP address which I assigned. Where else should I search for that?
[00:36] <hkrrsx> rexuss: Why are you looking for it anywhere other than the NetworkManager GUI ?
[00:37] <daftykins> ^+1 - it could be in Timbuctoo surely, just as long as it works? :)
[00:37] <rexuss> hkrrsx: just my curiosity to find which file it is storing the configuration in.
[00:38] <Layl> well, grub is starting now
[00:38] <Layl> but windows isn't in the menu
[00:39] <Layl> the partition is still there so I haven't lost anything yet, I can still restore it with a disc
[00:40] <gr33n7007h> rexuss: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections # maybe something in here
[00:41] <daftykins> Layl: does ubuntu boot?
[00:41] <rexuss> gr33n7007h: thank you !! :) they are all there..
[00:42] <gr33n7007h> rexuss: np
[00:42] <Layl> daftykins: it does
[00:42] <daftykins> \o/
[00:43] <Layl> daftykins, though windows doesn't anymore
[00:43] <Layl> I guess people here would consider that a + but I don't
[00:44] <Layl> I'm about to run grub autoconfig to try and fix it
[00:44] <daftykins> only the childish ones - might be able to get it back by playing with boot-repair
[00:44] <daftykins> dunno
[00:44] <hkrrsx> gr33n7007h: Nice find
[00:44] <Layl> I'm keeping my windows partition for those games that don't quite like linux yet
[00:44] <gr33n7007h> anything config releated will be in etc somewhere :)
[00:44] <Layl> and older games
[00:45] <gr33n7007h> *related
[00:48] <mem11> Hello!
[00:49] <daftykins> lo
[00:49] <hkrrsx> mem11: Hello
[00:50] <mem11> I encountered a weird config issue on Ubuntu Gnome. Thought I should share. It could be identified as a bug. Though I couldn't find a webpage reporting it.
[00:51] <mem11> It's a fresh 14.04 and has 2 users: 1 admin, 1 normal
[00:51] <Layl> what's the issue?
[00:51] <hkrrsx> mem11: Please elaborate.
[00:52] <mem11> I don't know about the defaults, but I think it had autologin=true. I set it to false for my admin (before or after I added the 2nd user, I don't remember which)
[00:52] <Layl> it asks you during install
[00:52] <mem11> So my expectation is that my admin would require my password for login to X
[00:52] <wafflejock> yeah should have asked during install believe when you put in your password
[00:53] <mem11> But oh no, the login screen has a progress bar and in 10 seconds I get auto login
[00:53] <mem11> So I look into /etc/gdm/custom.conf and see TimedLogin=True :/
[00:54] <mem11> Even though I have AutoLogin=False now I'm auto logged in, just after _some time_
[00:54] <Layl> I just restarted after ubuntu ran updates and it started into gtub console :/
[00:54] <Layl> *grub
[00:54] <mem11> It's weird
[00:55] <wafflejock> mem11, hmm interesting... I actually have the same but never noticed cause I always just logged in instead of waiting
[00:55] <mem11> I fixed it manually by setting TimedLogin to False, no problem. But this could be fixed somehow, I think
[00:55] <daftykins> Layl: heading off now, good luck with it
[00:55] <Layl> whaaat
[00:55] <Layl> I have no idea what to do from here D:
[00:55] <daftykins> that makes 2 of us
[00:55] <Layl> I'm staring at the grub console
[00:55] <daftykins> !bootrepair
[00:55] <daftykins> other than trying that
[00:56] <daftykins> eh? i thought it did boot
[00:56] <Layl> it did, then I installed updates
[00:56] <daftykins> oh.
[00:56] <Layl> then it asked to restart
[00:56] <mem11> wafflejock: yeah, and there's no TimedLogin option in the GUI too
[00:56] <Layl> I let it do that, then it went into grub console
[00:56] <daftykins> Layl: boot live again, chroot - try update-grub, dunno
[00:56] <daftykins> !chroot
[00:56] <Layl> I'll try that
[00:57] <[Saint]> perhaps a new kernel was installed, the old one autoremoved, and for $some_reason update-grub wasn't called.
[00:57] <wafflejock> mem11, yeah might want to try #ubuntu-gnome or something to see if someone can tell you what's going on or point you to where to file a bug
[00:57] <[Saint]> though, it should have been.
[00:58] <mem11> wafflejock, ok maybe i'll do that
[00:58] <Layl> why am I having so many issues aaargh
[00:58] <wafflejock> mem11, I imagine it's probably still using launchpad for issues but not sure
[01:05] <Layl> update-grub says "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[01:06] <swordsmanz> Layl did you feed it grass ?
[01:06] <Layl> no I did not
[01:06] <swordsmanz> Layl your cow died
[01:06] <Layl> uugggh so far it has taken me 4 hours to try to install ubuntu
[01:07] <swordsmanz> Layl did you try replaceing your bovine simulation unit with a ne wcow ?
[01:08] <Layl> I'm trying really hard to be polite here but that it has taken so much time is really pressing my patience
[01:08] <swordsmanz> Layl did you try the chroot sergestion put forward on the fourums ?
[01:09] <Layl> I did not, I am currently learning what chroot is and how it applies in this situation
[01:09] <samthewildone> lol
[01:09] <veebull> hey all. I'm getting an ssh error message when I try to use `vagrant up` (ubuntu 14.04 host, ubuntu 14.04 vagrant box)
[01:09] <samthewildone> now editing the second video
[01:10] <veebull> The private key to connect to the machine via SSH must be owned
[01:10] <veebull> by the user running Vagrant.
[01:10] <swordsmanz> Layl chroot stands basically for change root, it allows you to apply root privalages from one drive iniroment to another
[01:10] <swordsmanz> enviroment &
[01:10] <veebull> then it gives a path to a file, but I cannot change the ownership of said file
[01:10] <hkrrsx> samthewildone: Wrong buffer again?
[01:11] <samthewildone> yes
[01:11] <hkrrsx> :)
[01:11] <samthewildone> hkrrsx, I automatically connect to this channel and keep forgeting to remove
[01:11] <hkrrsx> samthewildone: np
[01:12] <swordsmanz> Layl another thing you could try is downloading manjaro linux it will likely save you the headache of dealing with the crappy way canonical dose things
[01:12] <swordsmanz> and it has a larger software selection
[01:13] <Ben64> swordsmanz: please don't recommend other distros here
[01:14] <swordsmanz> Ben64 even if its the right advice for the person ?
[01:15] <Layl> I doubt a different distro will solve my raid problems
[01:15] <Ben64> swordsmanz: its not a solution to the problem, its not the right advice, it involves a heavy dose of FUD, and it makes this channel unavailable for support
[01:18] <Layl> I'm getting "already mounted or busy" while trying to chroot
[01:18] <Layl> *while trying to mount
[01:19] <swordsmanz> Layl dismount it and try again
[01:19] <Layl> I haven't mounted it
[01:19] <swordsmanz> well if it say sirt is mounted it proberbly is
[01:19] <swordsmanz> so try to dismount
[01:20] <Layl> how can I unmount something that I don't know where it's mounted to though
[01:20] <swordsmanz> Layl you use df
[01:22] <swordsmanz> or you can cat/proc mounts
[01:23] <mem11> Is there a way to query whether a package came with the distro or not?
[01:23] <Layl> not seeing this specific volume in the list in df
[01:23] <swordsmanz> Layl also it would be pertinent to k now if you are useing softraid or hardraid
[01:23] <Layl> I'm using fakeraid
[01:23] <Layl> unfortunately
[01:23] <swordsmanz> Layl was it set up by the installer ?
[01:23] <Layl> yea it was
[01:24] <Layl> if by installer you mean the place that assembled the computer
[01:24] <hkrrsx> mem11: One way is to check http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[01:24] <hkrrsx> mem11: Another way is to check http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <swordsmanz> Layl no i mean the ubuntu installer
[01:24] <phix> ok Unity is acting up again (I click on something but keyboard focus stays in the previous window), when is Unity being planned to be fixed?
[01:24] <hkrrsx> Or you can apt-cache search <package_name>
[01:24] <Layl> the ubuntu installer did not set up anything, I had to manually create the partitions in gparted
[01:25] <Layl> trying to use umount tells me the volume is not mounted
[01:25] <Layl> this is quite the irritating situation
[01:26] <Layl> since only the livecd is running and both the ubuntu and windows install are bricked, I doubt anything can be keeping the volume busy
[01:26] <mem11> hkrrsx, hmm those would show me if the package is _provided_ but not in the main distro image, wouldn't it?
[01:27] <swordsmanz> Layl so ubuntu is installed but all you need is a bootloader ?
[01:27] <Layl> ubuntu is installed, grub is installed as well
[01:27] <hkrrsx> mem11: The distrowatch.com one would
[01:27] <Layl> but grub launches into a console rather than a menu
[01:28] <Layl> this happened after first being able to start fine, but then after running updates and restarting it stopped working
[01:28] <swordsmanz> Layl do you know where your /boot directory is being stored ?
[01:29] <Layl> I don't know what a /boot directory is
[01:29] <swordsmanz> it is where grub is strored
[01:29] <mem11> hkrrsx, ok thanks it does
[01:29] <swordsmanz> are you doing it all on one partition ?
[01:29] <hkrrsx> mem11: In the "Table Notes and Explanations" section, make sure the radial button next to All Tracked Packages is highlighted and click Refresh
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Layl: Wish I could help more, but anything from -> fuser -m /dev/<raid_device_name> ; see if you can see what is holding the device as busy ?
[01:29] <Layl> I'm using a split windows/ubuntu installation
[01:29] <hkrrsx> That'll give you all 219 packages
[01:29] <Layl> I've also got a swap partition
[01:30] <swordsmanz> Layl but is all your linux stuff configured in a linux partition ?
[01:30] <Layl> Bashing-om, just a sec I'll run that
[01:30] <Layl> swordsmanz, my linux stuff is configured on one partition for the files and one for the swap
[01:30] <wgolden> Hey folks, sorry for the silly question, but i'm looking to buy a new usb wireless adapter; any recommendations ? 14.04 support ?
[01:31] <swordsmanz> lay you need to boot to the install cd then drop to a prompt
[01:31] <Layl> Bashing-om, it doesn't show anything when running that
[01:31] <Layl> swordsmanz, I'm there already
[01:31] <swordsmanz> then you need to chroot into whereever grub is installed
[01:31] <Layl> I can't do that because I can't mount the volume
[01:31] <Layl> it's being held busy by spooky ghosts
[01:32] <hkrrsx> wgolden: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+usb+wireless+adapter&ia=products
[01:32] <swordsmanz> Layl can you give me the ourput of df in a paste
[01:32] <Layl> swordsmanz, I can try if livecd comes with a browser
[01:32] <wgolden> hkrrsx: how very helpful... I asked in here for personal recommendations, not to be linked to a search result.
[01:32] <ablest1980> paste.ubuntu.com
[01:33] <hkrrsx> wgolden: Be respectful.
[01:33] <swordsmanz> also of cat /proc/mounts
[01:33] <[Saint]> Layl: it does.
[01:33] <azizLIGHT> how do i remove a ppa if i never installed anything from it
[01:33] <[Saint]> Layl: it comes with everything a default install does.
[01:33] <wgolden> hkrrsx: How was I disrespectful? you linked to a search result page
[01:33] <hkrrsx> wgolden: You could have gotten nothing. Be respectful or get out.
[01:33] <azizLIGHT> i tried "sudo ppa-purge ppa:nanoshot/ppa" but im getting " Warning: apt-get update failed for some reason"
[01:34] <wgolden> hkrrsx: lol.
[01:34] <wgolden> you could have not replied
[01:34] <wgolden> grow up
[01:34] <Layl> swordsmanz: http://bit.ly/1I5BW3a
[01:35] <[Saint]> wgolden: you need to respect being patronized in here with what is essentially a lmgtfy link, didn't you know?
[01:35] <wgolden> [Saint]: right? :P
[01:36] <swordsmanz> Layl so what hapens if you chroot /cow
[01:36] <[Saint]> wgolden: for an actual answer - I use any of the TP-Link nano USB dongles.
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> i suggest you check some googles with "ubuntu 14.04" usb wifi adaptor problems ... whichever model shows up, dont get that one
[01:37] <Layl> "Failed to get attributes of "cow" no such file or directory"
[01:37] <[Saint]> Either the v1, or the v2, both work out of the box on recent kernels.
[01:37] <[Saint]> and they're cheap - and fast.
[01:37] <wgolden> sweet, will check it out. thx
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> [Saint]: you got a model #
[01:37] <wgolden> I have a linksys ae2500 right now, and it's a bit spotty
[01:37] <[Saint]> I'll get a part number for you, one sec hun.
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> and is it wireless n or ac
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> thank you bb
[01:38] <[Saint]> azizLIGHT: wgolden: TP-Link TL-WN725N
[01:38] <azizLIGHT> nice
[01:38] <azizLIGHT> thank you very much
[01:38] <wgolden> awesome. thank you for the useful info saint :)
[01:38] <[Saint]> Not a problem.
[01:38] <Layl> I find that very often my computers are in states of superposition where two different things will be giving conflicting results
[01:39] <azizLIGHT> seems like a lot of raspberry pi people use that one
[01:39] <[Saint]> Indeed.
[01:39] <[Saint]> 'cos it's cheap, and it "just works"
[01:39] <swordsmanz> Layl what about chroot /
[01:40] <[Saint]> I can actually get near the full 150MB/s transfer rate, too.
[01:40] <azizLIGHT> [Saint]: does it leave a little bit of silver plug visible? or silver disappears into port compeltely?
[01:40] <Layl> swordsmanz, it drops into root user
[01:40] <[Saint]> azizLIGHT: it sits flush with the USB ports in my case.
[01:40] <[Saint]> YMMV.
[01:40] <swordsmanz> Layl try doing a grub-install
[01:40] <[Saint]> azizLIGHT: in fact, it is so small, you need to be careful which ports you put it in because it can be very difficult to retrieve.
[01:40] <[Saint]> ie. in a recessed facet.
[01:40] <Layl> "install device isn't specified"
[01:41] <Layl> I probably should look into the commands I should be giving this
[01:41] <MacDada> Hi, MBP8,2 here, trying to install Ubuntu. I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Trusty guide. Downloaded newest 64bit Ubuntu "pc desktop" version, copied to flash drive with unetbootin app. EFI drive appears on booting, grub loads, but after "enter" to install I get "i8042: No Controller Found" and a freeze. Ideas? Extra notes: I removed the DVD drive and put my hdd in there. SSD took place of HDD. I have 2 partitions on the HDD, one of whi
[01:41] <wgolden> [Saint]: sweet, ordered a few. super cheap. thx for the recommendation
[01:41] <azizLIGHT> [Saint]: i had this problem before i am keen of it now :D i plugged a nano usb drive to my tv and man it was a pain to get out
[01:41] <xbuntu> salve
[01:41] <swordsmanz> Layl grub-install /
[01:42] <Layl> swordsmanz: "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[01:42] <[Saint]> wgolden: not a problem - first hand experience of wireless adapters that work painlessly can be difficult to find.
[01:42] <azizLIGHT> MacDada: just fyi, your message got cut at "I have 2 partitions on the HDD, one of whi"
[01:42] <MacDada> azizLIGHT: "I have 2 partitions on the HDD, one of which is FAT32-formatted and I want it to be replaced with Ubuntu."
[01:43] <swordsmanz> Layl mkdir /boot
[01:43] <Layl> swordsmanz, "file exists"
[01:43] <swordsmanz> Layl grub-install /boot
[01:43] <Layl> swordsmanz: "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[01:45] <swordsmanz> Layl grub-install /dev/sda
[01:45] <Layl> I can in advance say that's not gonna work, /dev/sda doesn't exist
[01:45] <swordsmanz> Layl why is this ?
[01:46] <Layl> I can however install to the very weird path the raid array's volume is at
[01:46] <swordsmanz> yeah do that than
[01:47] <Layl> aaand same thing again, failed to get canonical path of /cow
[01:49] <swordsmanz> lay try chroot pathtoyourdrive /mnt
[01:49] <swordsmanz> Layl we are seing a pattern here tho and im guessing that it will lead back the thse same error
[01:50] <swordsmanz> so i want you to unmount everything but the live cd frist
[01:50] <Layl> alright, how do I do that
[01:52] <swordsmanz> Layl you need to unount /everything but /dev/sr0 /dev/loop0 and tmpfs
[01:53] <swordsmanz> crusialy tho you want to unmount /
[01:53] <swordsmanz> or /dev/cow
[01:53] <administrador> Hello. Anyone knows why I cant install Unetbootin? E: Package 'unetbootin' has no installation candidate
[01:53] <Layl> "df" will give me a list of what's mounted right
[01:53] <Layl> so I can see what I need to unmount
[01:54] <swordsmanz> Layl yes
[01:55] <Jeeves_Moss> is it possible to add a GIT repo to APT?
[01:55] <Bashing-om> administrador: Filename: pool/universe/u/unetbootin/unetbootin_585-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb . Do you have the universe repository enabled in sources.list ?
[01:56] <Layl> swordsmanz, trying to umount /cow is silently failing
[01:56] <Layl> when I run df again it still shows it mounted
[01:56] <administrador> Bashing-om: Yeah, all checked
[01:57] <swordsmanz> Layl what about a dismount of that drive as it is adressed by linux ?
[01:57] <Layl> what does that mean
[01:57] <swordsmanz> so dismount /dev/whateveryourraidis
[01:58] <Layl> can't find the dismount command
[01:58] <swordsmanz> unmount *
[01:58] <Layl> ah alright
[01:58] <Bashing-om> administrador: Do not know then, what returns -> apt-cache policy unetbootin <- ?
[01:59] <Layl> it's apparently not mounted
[01:59] <Layl> should I try to unmount all the partitions as well
[01:59] <swordsmanz> Layl output of df at this point
[01:59] <Layl> df still shows the same
[02:00] <administrador> Bashing-om: unetbootin: Installed: (none) Candidate: 585-2ubuntu1 Version table: 585-2ubuntu1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[02:00] <Layl> doing a quick check, none of the partitions are mounted either
[02:01] * zegodd loves Ubuntu
[02:01] <swordsmanz> lay try mounting that driv eto mnt again
[02:01] <Bashing-om> administrador: Well, you can see it .. try : sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get install unetbootin <- .
[02:01] <Layl> still already mounted or busy
[02:02] <Layl> one thing, previously ubuntu mentioned something about the windows partition being busy and that it might have something to do with fastboot
[02:02] <swordsmanz> ok im calling retarded
[02:03] <administrador> Bashing-om: Thats what I did but got that error message. I am installing it from that link you gave me though, thx.
[02:03] <Layl> the windows partition is currently entirely inaccessable though so I do not have any way to boot into windows to solve the issue
[02:04] <swordsmanz> Layl there is ether something radically wrong with your raid setup or there is something radically wroing with the way ubuntu is handeling things right now
[02:04] <Layl> I'm gonna guess a little of column A a little of column B
[02:05] <swordsmanz> Layl my adice, redo the raid setup yourself from the bios utility, make sure everything is as it should be then try again with a fresh install of a decent distro
[02:05] <Layl> any way I could access the windows drive to get a single file that would be a pain to re-create?
[02:06] <swordsmanz> Layl yes, use a linux life usb that comes ith an ntfs driver preloaded and just pull the files off
[02:06] <Layl> getting an error that the filesystem is readonly on the windows partition
[02:07] <swordsmanz> Layl it being read only will still let you read the file to pull it out
[02:07] <Layl> yea but the file browser aint having none of it
[02:07] <Layl> and is just refusing to open it up
[02:09] <Layl> I am just gonna wipe it all once I get those files and follow the advice to just go for two flat drives with one with windows and one with ubuntu
[02:09] <swordsmanz> Layl use a distro that will set up a good softraid for you
[02:10] <Layl> I am just not going to deal with RAID at all anymore
[02:10] <Layl> I'll just get an SSD
[02:10] <swordsmanz> Layl also are you in raid 0 or raid 1 ?
[02:10] <Layl> raid 1
[02:10] <swordsmanz> so redundent ?
[02:10] <Layl> yea
[02:11] <Layl> I'm just gonna restart from livecd again to get all the mounting in order again because it's not opening anything aymore
[02:11] <swordsmanz> Layl thats best
[02:11] <swordsmanz> it should open up the files then, if not there are other ways to get your data
[02:12] <Layl> honestly my system needed a wipe anyways
[02:12] <Anosss> #android-chat
[02:15] <Layl> I am never letting a hardware retailer set up my raid again
[02:16] <swordsmanz> Layl that is a good idea
[02:18] <Layl> it says my windows partition is in an unsafe state
[02:19] <Anosss> hello
[02:19] <swordsmanz> Layl force it to mount
[02:20] <Layl> how do I force it to mount?
[02:21] <Layl> already got it with -o ro
[02:21] <Layl> looking at my data right now, gonna get a sandwich then get to recovering
[02:23] <Layl> so after getting this all sorted out, will it be easier to install windows first then ubuntu or other way around
[02:23] <Layl> or can I get 90% performance out of windows with a VM
[02:25] <teward> Layl: what exactly are you running on Windows?
[02:25] <Layl> games mainly
[02:25] <teward> Layl: dualboot - install Windows then Ubuntu
[02:25] <teward> do custom installation of Windows, manually define the space to use, etc.
[02:25] <teward> Layl: games inside a VM are... varying in results
[02:26] <Anosss> hello
[02:26] <Anosss> i like chicken
[02:26] <Layl> teward, will it vastly simplify the setup if I have one physical drive per OS?
[02:27] <teward> Layl: i can't comment to that, unfortunately.
[02:27] <teward> I try and keep a gaming-dedicated computer around, and not mess with that
[02:27] <teward> and do most of my daily work in Linux by choice
[02:27] <Layl> well I've been trying to switch to linux for work as well
[02:28] <Layl> but this has not been going smoothly
[02:28] <Layl> since I'm about to faint I'm gonna get that sandwich now
[02:31] <Ben64> Layl: raid usually causes more issues than it solves. backup is the way to go for redundancy, imo
[02:37] <Layl> Ben64, usually all my stuff is online and I don't need anything backed up, I just had a few things on my desktop I rather have copied than have to recreate
[02:39] <Layl> yes! I managed to recover my cities skylines saves
[02:39] <Layl> the day has been saved
[02:52] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[02:52] <ubuntu-studio> why?
[02:53] <raouf> hi
[02:57] <Rohan_> Hi guys can anyone help?
[02:58] <Ben64> Rohan_: ask a question and find out
[02:59] <Rohanppdx> Hi is anyone here?
[03:05] <kaatu> hi , i installed ubuthu using usb , i cant boot it ubunthu the cpu will be on but no display i have to restart the os and select from the menu to get into the os please help
[03:05] <Layl> I would just like to come back to note, I was afraid boot repair would make the problem even worse by not recognizing that it's a raid setup
[03:05] <Layl> I was wrong
[03:06] <Layl> it just fixed all my issues in like... 2 minutes
[03:06] <Layl> including that windows 8 wasn't in the boot list
[03:06] <Layl> all worship boot repair
[03:08] <ryan_46> Layl, Don't know about worship but congrats.
[03:09] <Layl> unfortunately a new problem has appeared, that windows isn't shutting down anymore
[03:09] <Layl> uggghh
[03:09] <Layl> fix one, 2 more crop up
[03:11] <tj83> can someone help me fix my groups? I forgot to use -a when I tried to add a subgroup. now sudo doesnt work. basically wiped out my groups except the one i was adding.
[03:12] <encapsulation> has ubuntu removed the spyware yet?
[03:12] <enav> HELLO PEPS!
[03:13] <tj83> the command I entered in error was: sudo usermod -G dialout tj
[03:13] <tj83> is there not any support for ubuntu in this channel anymore? back in the day people helped people.
[03:14] <les> encapsulation: disabled by default but still present
[03:15] <kaatu> please help i have installed ubuntu 3 times , the ubuntu wont boot intolog in page at first the cpu just stays on i have to restart and select ubuntu fom grub menu ubuntu everytime to get into the os please help to resolve this problem
[03:15] <enav> Im Using Eclipse IDE on Ubuntu 14.04 for PHP development, my only problem is that after some time my Eclipse FTP support stops working (NOOP deathlock) after some random idle time, anyone have a lead to solve this problem? google is not helping much
[03:16] <kaatu> please help i have installed ubuntu 3 times , the ubuntu wont boot intolog in page at first the cpu just stays on i have to restart and select ubuntu fom grub menu ubuntu everytime to get into the os please help to resolve this problem
[03:16] <zerowaitstate> tj83: do you have a livecd?
[03:17] <zerowaitstate> tj83: alternatively, you can reboot into recovery mode
[03:17] <tj83> I can do both. I was just googling. looks like I just open up /etc/groups and add myself to admin and fix the rest after a reboot zerowaitstate
[03:18] <Layl> siiiiggggh now I get "invalid magic number" when trying to boot
[03:18] <kaatu> please help i have installed ubuntu 3 times , the ubuntu wont boot intolog in page at first the cpu just stays on i have to restart and select ubuntu fom grub menu ubuntu everytime to get into the os please help to resolve this problem
[03:18] <kaatu> can any one help me
[03:18] <kaatu> ?????
[03:18] <tj83> zerowaitstate, any tips before I give this a shot?
[03:18] <zerowaitstate> tj83: well, my advice is always do a backup before making major changes to a system, but we're kind of past that point
[03:18] <Ben64> !patience | kaa
[03:18] <Ben64> !patience | kaatu
[03:19] <zerowaitstate> tj83: i think recovery mode would be easier
[03:19] <tj83> zerowaitstate, ya Im going recovery route.
[03:19] <enav> anyone aware of the eclipse hangs FTP support after some idel time?
[03:19] <enav> idle*
[03:20] <zerowaitstate> tj83: i would make note of your fstab beforehand
[03:20] <pavlos> tj83, there is a /var/backups dir ... you may find group.bak there
[03:20] <zerowaitstate> tj83: because you'll have to remount the root filesystem once you're in
[03:21] <kaatu> ?????
[03:21] <zerowaitstate> pavlos: I actually didn't know that was there
[03:21] <tj83> pavlos, it is there. but I dont have permission to open it :( yet anyways
[03:21] <Layl> what's UDMA anyways, saw a thread that says turning it off fixes my problem
[03:21] <tj83> i will look at it once I am there pavlos ty
[03:21] <pavlos> tj83, use sudo
[03:21] <tj83> zerowaitstate, gotcha. thanks.
[03:21] <tj83> pavlos, sudo is broke
[03:22] <zerowaitstate> tj83: you should be able to do ls at least
[03:22] <zerowaitstate> tj83: what's the date on the file
[03:22] <tj83> yes I see its there in /var/backup apr 5th
[03:22] <pavlos> tj83, the perm for the /var/backups/group.bak are 600, only root can see it
[03:23] <phix> so any ideas?
[03:23] <zerowaitstate> pavlos: are those created by dpkg?
[03:23] <tj83> ok. I'm going over to recovery mode to see what I can do. thanks for the leads. be back soon to report.
[03:24] <pavlos> zerowaitstate, not sure which process ... I think every time there is a change is groups, it makes a backup
[03:26] <Layl> does anyone know how to begin about solving "invalid magic number, you need to load the kernel first"?
[03:27] <poz> is hkrrsx still here?
[03:27] <poz> layl, have you made a backup of your hard drive?
[03:27] <hkrrsx> poz, I am
[03:27] <poz> if not, do it now.
[03:27] <Layl> poz: my windows partition is still bootable
[03:27] <Layl> the ubuntu one isn't
[03:27] <poz> i solved my problem. it was a plymouth issue
[03:27] <poz> back up your shit now.
[03:28] <poz> the last time I delt with a magic number i lost everything.
[03:28] <Layl> there's nothing on the ubuntu one I will miss
[03:28] <hkrrsx> poz, good work
[03:28] <pavlos> poz, easy with the language ...
[03:28] <poz> sorry
[03:28] <Layl> it is literally a clean install of ubuntu gnome with updates installed
[03:29] <poz> oh i see
[03:29] <poz> what type of file system?
[03:29] <Layl> ext4
[03:29] <Layl> it booted once, then thrashed grub with the updates
[03:29] <poz> your ubuntu drive has nothing else on it?
[03:29] <Layl> after grub was fixed, it now doesn't boot anymore
[03:30] <Layl> the ubuntu partition has nothing else on it but the drive has my windows partition on it
[03:31] <poz> I did not mean to sware before, but the line "bad magic number in the super block" is not my most feared line of all time.
[03:31] <Layl> it doesn't say anything about a super block
[03:31] <poz> oh okay, you need to be careful then. you might end up toasting your entire drive, not just the partition
[03:32] <Layl> well I don't know what to even do from here
[03:32] <poz> do you have any other drives with equal or more space then your current drive?
[03:32] <Layl> I do not
[03:32] <Layl> this drive is 2Tb
[03:33] <poz> humm
[03:33] <zerowaitstate> pavlos: ah, apparently debian has a script under /etc/cron.daily/passwd that does daily backups of the passwd file if they differ from the previous day
[03:33] <Layl> if I had I would have backed up the windows partition entirely, wiped the drive, undone the RAID setup and made each drive its own OS install
[03:33] <poz> are you in your windows drive right now?
[03:33] <zerowaitstate> pavlos: and group, etc
[03:33] <Layl> I'm right now in the GRUB menu
[03:33] <Layl> I'm chatting from my laptop
[03:34] <poz> oh okay, well can you boot into windows with out any issues?
[03:34] <Layl> yea
[03:34] <Layl> except that fastboot has stopped working
[03:34] <Layl> but turning that off fixes any issues that causes
[03:34] <Cerin> Can someone give me a sanity check? I just downloaded the ISO for Ubuntu 14.04, installed it onto a USB thumbdrive, booted a server from it and started the install...and then it stopped and asked me to insert the CD...which of course I don't have because I'm installing from USB. Am I going crazy? Why does Ubuntu 14.04 *require* a CD-ROM drive?
[03:34] <pavlos> zerowaitstate, great ... I remember that passwd and groups are backed up, did not remember the cron ... thx
[03:34] <poz> I think the first thing you want to identify is if it is hardware or software. however I learnt that it was hardware, far to late in the game to back up my drive. so that is a good thing to do first
[03:35] <Layl> poz, how do I identify this
[03:35] <MichaelTiebesl> Cerin:did you do a md5sum check?
[03:35] <Layl> my raid status screen shows there's nothing wrong with the array
[03:37] <Layl> darn it I just wanted to dual boot ubuntu, why does this have to be so haaaard
[03:38] <tj83> pavlos, zerowaitstate ok got sudo back. whew! what is the standard set of secondary groups for admin users? and on a note on the mount i did have to mount -o rw,remount / to get write access. but worked
[03:38] <poz> Layl, do you still have your ubuntu stick? boot from it and mount your hard drive. then google some things about how to check ext4 file systems... I have to go becuase of work tomorrow or else I would stick around to try and help you. If it is seagate brand name, they have some windows tools called seagate tools that might help you
[03:38] <Cerin> MichaelTiebesl: A corrupted ISO would require installation from CD?!
[03:39] <Layl> I'm just gonna sleep, I've lost way too much sleep because of this and I need to get at least some
[03:39] <zerowaitstate> tj83: adm cdrom sudo plugdev lpadmin dip
[03:39] <zerowaitstate> actually i don't know what dip is
[03:39] <poz> I think I had issues with magic numbers when I was messing with usb sticks... I think I just reformatted and tryed again. if you have ntohing to lose you could reformat on your ubuntu part
[03:40] <zerowaitstate> tj83: adm is the group that log files are often saved under, so you don't have to sudo to read logs
[03:40] <zerowaitstate> tj83: other stuff is self explanatory
[03:40] <zerowaitstate> tj83: did you check out the backup in /var/backups?
[03:41] <zerowaitstate> tj83: while you were gone i googled and apparently ubuntu saves a copy of your groups/passwd/shadow file each day if the backup copy differs from the live copy
[03:41] <Cerin> Where do I even find the md5 for the current ISOs? Canonical doesn't list them on their site anywhere...
[03:41] <zerowaitstate> tj83: it's in /etc/cron.daily/passwd; the code that is
[03:41] <Flannel> Cerin: is this the server ISO?
[03:42] <Cerin> Flannel: yes
[03:42] <pavlos> Cerin, there should be a md5sum.txt
[03:42] <Bashing-om> tj83: Found: dip (Dialup IP) is a smart program that is able to set the speed of the serial device, .
[03:42] <MichaelTiebesl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A14.04_LTS
[03:43] <Flannel> Cerin: So, it's looking for the repository of files on the CD to install from. It's looking for the CDrom drive, which obviously you have none. You should be able to point it to the repository on the USB stick (but I don't know the details, I'd have to muck around with it). Or mount the USB as a CD or something too might work.
[03:44] <Flannel> Cerin: Another (probably easier) alternative is to get the mini.iso, which is the alternate installer (server installer) except it doesn't contain any packages (and instead tries to get them from the internet, which bypasses this problem). You'll have to have an internet connection during the install, however.
[03:44] <zerowaitstate> tj83: oh, I left out sambashare
[03:45] <tj83> zerowaitstate, Bashing-om cool thanks got em all
[03:46] <zerowaitstate> tj83: as a bit of advice, I don't really use usermod much; I use adduser to add a user to a group
[03:46] <Cerin> yes, the checksum is fine, the installer really does need a CD, wow
[03:47] <tj83> I havent used ubuntu for a long time. was till late a fedora user. where i used root or su as needed, I just messed up. thanks for the help
[03:47] <zerowaitstate> tj83: np dude. have a good one
[03:47] <Flannel> Cerin: No, it doesn't.
[03:47] <Cerin> Flannel: yes, it does, you just said so
[03:48] <Flannel> Well, the installer expects a repository on a CD, you should be able to reconfigure it to use the repository on the USB. I said that, not that it requires a CD.
[03:49] <Cerin> You're arguing semantics. The point is the installer won't install unless there's a CD...thus it requires a CD.
[03:49] <Cerin> That's a bug IMHO.
[03:49] <Flannel> Cerin: No. That's not what I said. You SHOULD be able to make it work right now. I just don't have specifics for you on how to do that (and no easy way to try for myself at the moment). Which is different than REQUIRING a CD.
[03:49] <Cerin> If the LiveUSB has enough packages to install but can't because the installer is hard-coded to read from a CD drive...then...jeez, that's really sloppy coding.
[03:50] <tj83> while I am here, can anyone suggest a good application for video capture from USB device.
[03:51] <Cerin> Flannel: Yes, I know, I've installed Ubuntu from only-USB before for 12.04. I don't know why they've broken it for 14.04.
[03:51] <Cerin> This is really frustrating.
[03:51] <Cerin> It's 2015 and the bleeding-edge version of Ubuntu requires a CD-ROM drive.
[03:51] <Flannel> Cerin: It's the exact same installer, so it shouldn't have broken. Was your 12.04 install a command line install?
[03:51] <Cerin> Who even uses CDs anymore?
[03:51] <tj83> Cerin, I installed 14.04 from SD card, technically USB.
[03:52] <Cerin> Flannel: It worked with plain USB for both desktop and server installs. I think it was through the GUI.
[03:52] <Flannel> Cerin: Right, that installs using an entirely different method (ubiquity, not debian-installer).
[03:53] <Cerin> Flannel: Is there a command installer in that ISO, or do I need a different ISO? I didn't see a non-GUI option when I booted?
[03:55] <zerowaitstate> tj83: you should be able to use vlc to do it, but you probably want an actualy video editing app
[03:55] <Flannel> Cerin: No, the desktop CD (liveCD) won't install a server sysstem, only the desktop system, and it's only through the graphical installer.
[03:55] <zerowaitstate> tj83: maybe openshot?
[03:55] <Cerin> Flannel: I'm using the server ISO.
[03:56] <Flannel> Cerin: The mini ISO should work fine, with downloading packages from the internet, or this ISO should work fine, if we can figure out what you need to do to make it happier.
[03:56] <tj83> zerowaitstate, well, I am using a netbook so I need something with as little over-head as possible. to just dump raw to disk.
[03:57] <zerowaitstate> ffmpeg?
[03:57] <Cerin> Flannel: Where's the mini ISO?
[03:57] <tj83> VLC has problem with lag and audio/video sync issues I believe due to resource limitations. ffmpeg hmm... i havent looked into the ability to do it.
[03:57] <Flannel> Cerin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:57] <zerowaitstate> tj83: not really my area of expertism
[04:05] <zerowaitstate> g'night all
[04:05] <Cerin> Flannel: weird, Ubuntu startup disk creator won't accept the mini.iso
[04:07] <Flannel> Cerin: Right, the startup disk creator only works on the desktop ISOs (using ubiquity). The alternate/server/mini ISOs work completely differently, and I'm pretty sure startup disk creator doesn't know what to do with them. The miniISO page has two links on how to run it with a USB stick. I think it's just using dd nowadays.
[04:08] <Flannel> Cerin: yeah, the link is this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2155713&page=2&p=12698910#post12698910
[04:09] <Cerin> Flannel: It worked just fine with a server ISO...
[04:10] <bojan_> Anybody please help me my server has ubuntu OS and it is not booting to GUI but i can access the server through terminal 1 to 6..But all my clients are working good
[04:10] <bojan_> please help me to solve this issue
[04:17] <bojan_> Anybody please help me my server has ubuntu OS and it is not booting to GUI but i can access the server through terminal 1 to 6..But all my clients are working good...please help me to solve this issue
[04:30] <sennn> linux 4.0 release
[04:31] <Flannel> bojan_: Do you have a GUI installed on it and configured to start on boot? (server doesn't have either of those by default)
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> sennn: you mean new kernel 4.0
[04:32] <sennn> lotuspsychje, yes
[04:44] <PHPLearner> hello
[04:44] <PHPLearner> anyone here has tried install APC on ubuntu
[04:44] <PHPLearner> I am on course and I have an assignment due tomorrow
[04:45] <PHPLearner> Today professor gave us coursework than lecture
[04:45] <PHPLearner> I am in the library right now
[04:45] <PHPLearner> I tried a couple of websites follow through each instruction to the letter and got this message
[04:45] <PHPLearner> Error: cannot download "pecl/APC"
[04:45] <PHPLearner> Download failed
[04:45] <PHPLearner> install failed
[04:45] <PHPLearner> I do not know what seems to be wrong
[04:45] <PHPLearner> anyone please help
[04:45] <PHPLearner> I am on my wits end here
[04:45] <PHPLearner> thanks in advance
[04:47] <Flannel> PHPLearner: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[04:47] <Bashing-om> PHPLearner: What command did you run to try and down load the appllication ( from where ) ?
[04:48] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: apt-cache search php-apc
[04:48] <Flannel> PHPLearner: Well, sudo apt-get install php-apc should work for all of them (even if it's a transitional package for some)
[04:48] <PHPLearner> php-apc - APC User Cache for PHP 5 (transitional package)
[04:48] <PHPLearner> php5-apcu - APC User Cache for PHP 5
[04:48] <PHPLearner> this is what I got after the apt-cache command
[04:49] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: did you try what Flannel said?
[04:49] <PHPLearner> yea I did that
[04:50] <PHPLearner> but I got the error message I sent earlier
[04:50] <PHPLearner> I got my instructions from Digital Ocean
[04:50] <PHPLearner> followed it through the letter
[04:50] <PHPLearner> but I always got this message
[04:51] <PHPLearner> could not extract the package.xml file from "/build/buildd/php5-5.5.9+dfsg/pear-build-download/APC-3.1.13.tgz"
[04:51] <PHPLearner> Download of "pecl/apc" succeeded, but it is not a valid package archive
[04:51] <PHPLearner> Error: cannot download "pecl/APC"
[04:51] <PHPLearner> Download failed
[04:51] <PHPLearner> install failed
[04:51] <PHPLearner> but I got the folder for APC-3.1.13 on my Home folder
[04:51] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: so did you try: sudo apt-get install php-apc ?
[04:52] <PHPLearner> yup
[04:52] <Flannel> PHPLearner: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get install php-apc` we'll take a look at what's up.
[04:52] <PHPLearner> it work for a while until I got error message I got above
[04:53] <PHPLearner> ok
[04:53] <PHPLearner> hang on
[04:54] <PHPLearner> here is the link to pastebin http://pastebin.com/s37MEK55
[04:56] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: So you did do: sudo apt-get install php-apc
[04:56] <Flannel> PHPLearner: That's an interesting pastebin. But I don't see `sudo apt-get install php-apc` in there at all.
[04:56] <gr33n7007h> *didn't
[04:57] <kolbe> i have an Ubuntu 14.04 VM with a x86_64 CPU. i added a repository that has a Release file with "Architectures: amd64". when i do ''apt-get update'', the repo i added causes this message: "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"
[04:57] <PHPLearner> Green I did
[04:57] <PHPLearner> this is the outcome
[04:57] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: well it's not in the pastebin you posted
[04:57] <PHPLearner> erwin@erwin-M720SRS:~$ sudo apt-get install php-apc
[04:57] <PHPLearner> Reading package lists... Done
[04:57] <PHPLearner> Building dependency tree
[04:57] <PHPLearner> Reading state information... Done
[04:57] <PHPLearner> php-apc is already the newest version.
[04:57] <PHPLearner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:57] <kolbe> why is Ubuntu running on this VM with an amd64 CPU complaining about being unable to find i386 packages?
[04:57] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: well it's already installed then
[04:59] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: what does `dpkg -l | grep php-apc` say
[04:59] <PHPLearner> do I need to do this command: sudo pecl install apc
[04:59] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: no
[05:00] <PHPLearner> dpkg -l | grep php-apc
[05:00] <PHPLearner> erwin@erwin-M720SRS:~$ dpkg -l | grep php-apc
[05:00] <PHPLearner> ii php-apc 4.0.2-2build1 all APC User Cache for PHP 5 (transitional package)
[05:00] <ibm> can anybody resolve my issue
[05:00] <PHPLearner> sorry for the flooding
[05:00] <PHPLearner> just need this assignment done badly
[05:01] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: yep you've got it installed :)
[05:01] <PHPLearner> tomorrow is the deadline
[05:01] <PHPLearner> ok so how do I know that my APC is working
[05:01] <PHPLearner> I mean how can I check
[05:01] <ibm> i get this errError getting wom my andriod ph to ubuntu " copy file frfile: -6: Not Supported
[05:01] <PHPLearner> is there anything I can do to confirm this
[05:01] <ibm> is there anytbody
[05:02] <ibm> i get this errError getting wom my andriod ph to ubuntu " copy file frfile: -6: Not Supported
[05:02] <SiegeX> I just ran 'crontab -l' as root and was expecting to see entries for the /etc/crontab.XXX (daily,hourly, etc) but it says there is no crontab for root. Where/how does Ubuntu know when to run these scripts at the appropriate time?
[05:03] <ibm> help me resolve this errorError while copying “Visual Basic Tutorial L...oft DataGrid Control.pdf”.
[05:03] <ibm> is anybody here
[05:04] <ibm> anybody here aware of this issue
[05:04] <Flannel> PHPLearner: I'm not familiar with APC, so you may need to configure it. However I do know that it's not currently enabled in apache. You'll need to do that with `sudo a2enmod apcu` and then restart apache to get it to take. Also, according to the Readme.Debian file, if you copy /usr/share/doc/php5-apcu/apc.php to some place on your webserver, you should be able to view it and get some APC-related information (which I guess would show you it's wor
[05:05] <ibm> help me
[05:05] <ibm> help me
[05:06] <PHPLearner> alright
[05:06] <ibm> plz help
[05:06] <PHPLearner> that one I am not pretty sure how to do that
[05:07] <PHPLearner> as what I read earlier apcu is for php5.4 and older
[05:07] <ibm> anybody here
[05:07] <PHPLearner> but thanks though
[05:07] <readwrite> can i boot into ubuntu with uefi turned on? does ubuntu have any signed boot managers?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | readwrite
[05:09] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported)
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !repeat | ibm
[05:12] <erwin> oh man
[05:12] <PHPLearner> hey fellas
[05:13] <bojan> bhangota1
[05:13] <PHPLearner> I cannot make my apache2 to restart
[05:13] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:13] <PHPLearner> If I do service apache2 restart it says failed
[05:13] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:13] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:14] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:14] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:14] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:15] <ibm> help
[05:15] <Flannel> ibm: Please stop repeating your question. If anyone awake right know knew the answer, they'd answer you. A reasonable amount of time to wait would be 30 minutes between questions. In the meantime, try the forums, try search engines, etc.
[05:16] <ibm> not able to find any solution
[05:16] <ibm> Flannel: m sorry
[05:16] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: sudo apache2ctl start
[05:17] <cyclob|work> Hi guys, i'm trying to write a bash script that will change the extension of .html files to .php when they get uploaded. The file names are full length (/home/xx/xxx/x) passed by arguments
[05:17] <PHPLearner> thanks I got it
[05:18] <Ben64> cyclob|work: might want #bash then
[05:18] <cyclob|work> cool thanks
[05:20] <SiegeX> p.s. the answer to my question is that ubuntu uses '/etc/anacrontab'
[05:20] <ibm> Flannel: can u help me
[05:20] <gr33n7007h> ibm: how are you trying to copy the files?
[05:20] <ibm> i drag n drop
[05:20] <gr33n7007h> ibm: I think you have to use adb
[05:20] <ibm> or copy paste through gui
[05:21] <ibm> gr33n7007h: how
[05:21] <PHPLearner> alright fellas I got my APC up and running
[05:21] <PHPLearner> thanks for the attention and effort you gave
[05:21] <PHPLearner> back to my assignment
[05:22] <gr33n7007h> ibm: by installing android dev kit then issuing some thing like adb push/pull local/remote
[05:23] <gr33n7007h> !adb | ibm
[05:23] <gr33n7007h> !info adb | ibm
[05:23] <PHPLearner> hello
[05:24] <gr33n7007h> ibm: sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[05:24] <PHPLearner> how do i find a file apc.ini on my ubuntu linux
[05:24] <PHPLearner> do you know of any faster way
[05:24] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: find / -name "apc.ini"
[05:24] <ibm> gr33n7007h: will i be able to copy through graphical interface after that
[05:25] <gr33n7007h> ibm: I think it's CLI
[05:25] <ibm> gr33n7007h: CLI means
[05:25] <gr33n7007h> ibm: command line interface
[05:26] <ibm> gregL: sir i cant locate my device through CLI .. can u tell me where it is located directory
[05:27] <ibm> ubottu: how to resolve then
[05:28] <ibm> gr33n7007h: ir i cant locate my device through CLI .. can u tell me where it is located directory
[05:28] <gr33n7007h> ibm: sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot # first install these
[05:29] <ibm> gr33n7007h: i have
[05:29] <gr33n7007h> ibm: open a terminal
[05:29] <ibm> gr33n7007h: then
[05:29] <gr33n7007h> type: adb
[05:29] <PHPLearner> thanks green
[05:30] <ibm> gr33n7007h: then
[05:30] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: np
[05:30] <gr33n7007h> ibm: anything show up
[05:30] <bojan> bhangota:hhi
[05:30] <PHPLearner> but green I got a problem though
[05:30] <gr33n7007h> ibm: are you copying from ubuntu to android?
[05:30] <PHPLearner> after I used the command my terminal hanged up man
[05:30] <ibm> gr33n7007h: no andriod to ubuntu
[05:30] <PHPLearner> oh no
[05:31] <PHPLearner> it is searching
[05:31] <PHPLearner> sorry
[05:31] <ibm> gr33n7007h: its displays andriod debug version
[05:32] <gr33n7007h> ibm: adb pull /sdcard/whatever ~/ #something like that I can't test it
[05:32] <gr33n7007h> as i'm on live usb
[05:33] <bojan> bhangota:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10813619
[05:33] <ibm> gr33n7007h: how can i copy thru gui
[05:34] <gr33n7007h> ibm: not sure you can because it's mbt
[05:37] <gr33n7007h> ah just found something called qtadb but it might more of a hassel then it's worth
[05:38] <gr33n7007h> ibm: can adb recognise you device?
[05:39] <ns5> is there a command to list the extra repositories that I've added?
[05:40] <sherlock_regus> msg NickServ identify hazelgrace
[05:41] <Bashing-om> ns5: Not that I am aware explicitly listing PPAs . If you have a Software Center installed -> other sources .
[05:41] <gr33n7007h> sherlock_regus: oops
[05:41] <sherlock_regus> :P
[05:41] <ns5> Bashing-om: no I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 server, there's no X
[05:42] <ns5> Bashing-om: I want to remove all extra repositories and all related keys
[05:42] <sherlock_regus> which channel to join for questions on c programming
[05:42] <gr33n7007h> sherlock_regus: #c
[05:43] <sherlock_regus> for graphic.h also
[05:43] <gr33n7007h> sherlock_regus: sure
[05:43] <Bashing-om> ns5: #rd party (ppa's) should be installed to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -> tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <- .
[05:43] <gr33n7007h> ns5: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[05:45] <ns5> gr33n7007h, Bashing-om: is it ok to directly remove the source files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[05:45] <ns5> is that how we remove PPAs or extra repositories?
[05:45] <Bashing-om> ns5: Best practice is to ppa-purge .
[05:46] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | ns5
[05:46] <gr33n7007h> ns5: you can just remove them manually then apt-get update but ppa-purge it the proper way
[05:46] <ns5> Bashing-om, gr33n7007h: too bad, I have already done "rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[05:49] <Bashing-om> ns5: Haste makes waste . Might have a job to fix the package manager .
[05:52] <ns5> Bashing-om: thanks
[05:52] <danny_stark> al parecer es un chat global
[05:53] <Bashing-om> ns5: :) .. tkae care .
[05:53] <jamesbdev> Hi, I have two VPS servers, one has normal network performance the other one has very slow http and ftp speeds. pretty sure its a configuration issue. can someone help me ?
[05:53] <gr33n7007h> !gmtp
[05:53] <gr33n7007h> !info gmtp
[05:54] <kolbe> i have an Ubuntu 14.04 VM with a x86_64 CPU. i added a repository that has a Release file with "Architectures: amd64". when i do ''apt-get update'', the repo i added causes this message: "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)". why is Ubuntu running on this VM with an amd64 CPU complaining about being unable to find i386 package
[05:54] <kolbe> s?
[05:54] <danny_stark> yeah
[05:54] <gr33n7007h> ah, s/he's gone
[05:54] <jpds_> kolbe: Multiarch support.
[05:55] <kolbe> jpds_: this doesn't seem to happen on some other Ubuntu 14.04 VMs (EC2 instnaces) that I have. is this something i accidentally enabled in just one VM?
[05:55] <jpds_> kolbe: It's probably not enabled on ec2.
[05:56] <kolbe> jpds_: but by default all amd64 Ubuntu installs will have this behavior of complailing about the missing i386 repo?
[05:58] <WhyWouldIDoThat> Hi. I have a dedicated server (so it's headless). I reinstalled the machine yesterday, and forgot to copy the database. The machine only has one "drive" (mirrored raid). I want to try to recover the files. Can i set Ubuntu 12.04 to boot with the filesystem in read only mode on the next boot?
[06:00] <WhyWouldIDoThat> That is, can i set the machine to boot with filesystem in read only mode, but still access it via ssh?
[06:18] <kingBit> _
[06:26] <marvinous> Is there way to scan (not connect, only scan) SSID's of other access points in an access point, with Ubuntu?
[06:27] <dididodo> hi ... i updated from kernel 3.13.0-45 to 3.13.0-49 (on 12.04) and find that CPU temp is significantly cooler. thats nice. just for curiosity, do you have an idea what is the reason for this improvement?
[06:27] <kolbe> marvinous: "other access points in an access point"? that doesn't parse for me
[06:28] <marvinous> kolbe: I've an access point with SSID of "Router1". I want my Router1 to scan SSID's of other nearby routers. Is there a way to do it?
[06:29] <kolbe> marvinous: your access point Router1 is running Ubuntu?
[06:30] <marvinous> kolbe: Sorry for saying router, actually laptops running Ubuntu. Switching between scan mode and ap mode
[06:33] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: iwlist wlanX scan # if i'm understanding correctly
[06:34] <velho> Heyy
[06:34] <marvinous> gr33n7007h: That doesn't work in ap mode.
[06:38] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: is wifi adaptor acting as a router?
[06:39] <marvinous> gr33n7007h: Yes. I just need to only get other SSIDs nearby, not to connect them.
[06:39] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: could you just pastebin iwconfig please
[06:41] <marvinous> gr33n7007h: I'm using that wifi adaptor at the moment for internet connection, I don't think that any output would be helpful but try: http://pastebin.com/u4cMKqAH
[06:42] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: so wlan0 is the one your using as an access point but not at the min
[06:44] <marvinous> gr33n7007h: Yes.
[06:45] <Sramelyor3301> Hey guys I just installed gufw on ubuntu. I have no clue about firewall. Can someone suggest some basic settings for the firewall?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> !ufw | Sramelyor3301
[06:46] <Sramelyor3301> tnx
[06:46] <Sramelyor3301> :)
[06:49] <velho> For some odd reason vlc does prevent my laptop for going suspend
[06:49] <velho> Like i mean after the playlist is over, it should automatically go suspend in X period of time but it doesnt..
[06:53] <bojan> why my ubuntu server cant enter into GUI mode...rather all other terminals are working good
[06:53] <velho> bojan: Terminals the best
[06:53] <bojan> Even all clients are also working good...Clients are booting throgh pxe(LTSP concept)
[06:54] <ikonia> bojan: you need to explain the problem
[06:54] <velho> bojan: Why would you need gui on server?
[06:54] <ikonia> "can't enter gui mode" isn't helpful
[06:54] <ikonia> velho: many servers can run a gui for reasons,
[06:54] <cfhowlett> servers don't have gui modes
[06:54] <cfhowlett> ?
[06:54] <velho> ikonia: And reason?
[06:55] <ikonia> ease of use, gui specific apps, eg: some games servers require a gui manager, virtual node mangers
[06:55] <bojan> dudes saying my ubuntu machine as server because its centralised computer
[06:55] <ikonia> managers
[06:55] <ikonia> bojan: it's fine - what's the actual problem you have
[06:55] <bojan> it worked good till yesterday
[06:55] <velho> Some weird ass xorg problem?
[06:55] <bojan> ikonia:;when the system boots it is hust stuck in the page of showing status for example starting DNS ok
[06:56] <ikonia> velho: please don't make unhelpful comments, let him explain the problem please
[06:56] <ikonia> bojan: so the actual machine doesn't finish booting ?
[06:56] <bojan> ikonia:But when i press ctrl+al+f1 or f2 i can work
[06:56] <ikonia> bojan: they are different VT's
[06:56] <bojan> ikonia:In terminalmode
[06:56] <ikonia> bojan: it sounds like your machine is not booting properly - so not getting to the point where X11 starts
[06:57] <ikonia> bojan: is the point it hangs at always "starting dns" type comments ?
[06:57] <bojan> ikonia:what should i donow??
[06:57] <bojan> ikonia:i said that starting dns for example
[06:58] <ikonia> is it always the same point ?
[06:58] <ikonia> or the same service it fails/hangs on starting ?
[06:58] <velho> But he is able to get into the terminal through super keys, i guess
[06:58] <bojan> ikonia:All the service saying ok
[06:58] <ikonia> by changing VT's yes
[06:58] <ikonia> bojan: they why are you saying it stops on services such as "dns"
[06:59] <bojan> ikonia:it should boot directly to GUI right??
[06:59] <ikonia> bojan: answer the questions I ask
[06:59] <bojan> ikonia;i dont understand ur question clearly
[07:00] <ikonia> bojan: when the machine boots - you say it stops on a service for example "dns" and hangs, is it always the same service or different services ?
[07:00] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: ah, seems it can't bummer
[07:00] <bojan> ikonia:no no u misunderstood it is not hanging because of services it just hangs on the page where ubuntu shows the servic status
[07:01] <ikonia> bojan: so if you do not change VT's - and you just let it boot, what happens ?
[07:01] <bojan> Ikonia:if i say startx it gives error as "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10813885"
[07:02] <bojan> ikonia:it just hangs on that page
[07:02] <ikonia> on what page ?
[07:02] <bojan> starting stopping
[07:02] <ikonia> bojan: you're not making sense
[07:02] <ikonia> you say all the services finish, you also say it hangs
[07:02] <ikonia> which is it ?
[07:03] <bojan> ikonia:if u tellme how to share pictures i will send the screenshot so that u can understand easily
[07:03] <ikonia> I don't want a picture
[07:03] <ikonia> I just want you to tell me does it hang or not if you let it boot on it's own
[07:03] <bojan> yes it hangs
[07:04] <ikonia> right - what is the last line on the screen when it hangs ?
[07:04] <bojan> starting crash reports submission daemon [ok]
[07:05] <ikonia> and it never gets to any sort of login prompt after that ?
[07:06] <bojan> no
[07:06] <bojan> ikonia:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10813999/
[07:06] <ikonia> ok - so that suggests to me your machine is not completing the init process
[07:06] <bojan> ikonia;what is the solution??
[07:07] <ikonia> I would look at the syslog and boot log and see a.) what starts and how b.) if any fail or warn you c.) look at the init scripts and see if there is anything after openssh sever (or the last service) and try to start it manually
[07:07] <bojan> ikonia;i dont know how to do that...pls help me to solve thisout'
[07:08] <ikonia> bojan: you're running a pxe booting LTSP server - but you don't know how to check basic logs ?
[07:08] <ikonia> I'm sorry, I don't think thats an acceptable situation to be in,
[07:08] <bojan> i can give u syslog
[07:08] <bojan> logs
[07:08] <ikonia> I don't want them
[07:08] <ikonia> you need to read them
[07:09] <bojan> ikonia;http://paste.ubuntu.com/10813619/ "syslog"
[07:09] <ikonia> bojan: I don't want them
[07:09] <bojan> ikonia:then what u want exactly??
[07:09] <ikonia> nothing
[07:12] <bojan> ikonia:suggest something
[07:13] <ikonia> I've told YOU what to do
[07:13] <cfhowlett> bojan, he did. he suggested you read the logs.
[07:13] <bojan> cfhowlett:yes i have done it already
[07:14] <ikonia> I gave you 3 steps to do, you've done them already ?
[07:14] <bojan> ikonia:i have checked the logs and pre used commands
[07:15] <ikonia> pre used commands ?
[07:15] <bojan> but the thing is i dont know to edit init scripts
[07:15] <ikonia> you don't have to edit anything
[07:15] <ikonia> I'll step away as I don't think you're paying attention.
[07:15] <bojan> You know am new to ubuntu
[07:16] <bojan> looking for help
[07:16] <ikonia> can't be that new
[07:16] <ikonia> you've set up an LTSP server with pxe booting clients
[07:16] <bojan> yes
[07:17] <bojan> but i never faced these type of problems
[07:17] <bojan> i have studied on how to make a server using ltsp
[07:25] <bojan> ikonia:no warnings or errors in syslog and bootlog
[07:26] <bojan> ikonia:i found error in syslog as init:plymouth-stop pe-start process (2559) terminated with status 1
[07:27] <bojan> ikonia:and kernel logging (proc) stpped
[07:31] <_blitz_> Hi. I am using Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit. I find that some applications does not fit well into the default theme (eg: close, maximize and minimize are on the right side, window borders are "sharp" etc). It looks like GNOME3. Is there any way to fix this? Please see the screenshot to see an example http://pasteboard.co/2wRONPtb.png
[07:58] <aleitaan> video
[08:00] <aleitaan> load [-e] </home/aleitaan/.xchat2/xsys2.conf>
[08:00] <aleitaan> sysinfo
[08:01] <aleitaan> os[Linux 3.16.0-34-lowlatency i686] distro[Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.10GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 74.2% free] disk[Total: 454.4GB, 12.9% free] video[Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller] ether[Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller] sound[HDA-Inte
[08:01] <aleitaan> l - HDA Intel PCH]
[08:01] <aleitaan> video[Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller]
[08:14] <`hypermist`> i need to search a folder full of files but a file for a specific string
[08:14] <`hypermist`> how do i do that
[08:21] <jmg_> can anyone help me -- why does my virtualbox keep crashing as 'aborted' when i try to boot up another os install cd in it?
[08:27] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: what the specific string?
[08:28] <`hypermist`> $url = 'http://192.168.1.1/index.php?call=listreceivedbyaddress¶ms='.$address.'&key='.$key;
[08:28] <`hypermist`> ,etc gr33n7007h
[08:29] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: not sure what to make of that
[08:30] <`hypermist`> Well thats what i need to search for in the listo f files haha
[08:34] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: for file in *; do grep $url = 'http://192.168.1.1/index.php?call=listreceivedbyaddress¶ms='.$address.'&key='.$key; file; done
[08:34] <gr33n7007h> in quotes sorry
[08:34] <`hypermist`> Got it
[08:35] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: ok :)
[08:35] <EriC^^> `hypermist`: grep -r listreceivedbyaddress <dir to search>
[08:36] <`hypermist`> well apparently i dont have that anywhere in my files for this foldr well derp
[08:37] <`hypermist`> Meh i'll continue dis later
[08:37] * gr33n7007h wonders why I always over complicate things
[08:38] <`hypermist`> gr33n7007h, either method always works right ?
[08:39] <EriC^^> `hypermist`: the special chars might be a problem, you'd have to escape them with \
[08:39] <EriC^^> try just searching for listreceivedbyaddress first
[08:40] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: what EriC^^ said
[08:46] <tos-1> `hypermist`: EriC^^'s method is preferable since it also outputs the file where a match was found.
[08:46] <tos-1> *the filename
[08:47] <chuckboris> has anyone had the kernel 4.0 operating? The finished today!
[08:48] <tos-1> chuckboris: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[08:49] <tos-1> That should usually work; however, as always it comes without any warranty. :)
[08:52] <tos-1> Especially don't assume it goes without problems (because of ABI and API changes). I think one example which will break is virtualbox when trying to install newer kernels to 14.04.
[08:57] <`hypermist`> yea i know tos-1 i used it haha
[08:57] <`hypermist`> But apparently i dont have that in my files anywhere
[08:57] <`hypermist`> xD
[09:18] <bojan> why my /boot is having lot of images like this...How to clear that because my /boot is having only 100 MB and already 93 MB is gone..http://paste.ubuntu.com/10814541/
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> bojan: maybe bleachbit can clear it out
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | bojan
[09:21] <ikonia> you dont need any app
[09:21] <ikonia> open the package manager and remove the kernel packages you don't need
[09:21] <bojan> ikonia:sorry i was in tension at that time and now the problem solved..
[09:22] <bojan> ikonia:the problem which i asked is some mismatch of xserver and i installed ubuntu-desktop..Its working good now
[09:24] <bojan> lotuspsychje:Why do i need many versions of images in /boot??
[09:24] <hiexpo> hola ikonia
[09:24] <bojan> one or two is enough right??
[09:25] <ikonia> bojan: you can have as many/few as you feel safe
[09:27] <bojan> ikonia:ok
[09:37] <Guest43567> Helloo, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, and I can't seem to start a custom X session (Using the .xinitrc / .xsession files)
[09:38] <MP24> There is no option in the GDM "session" dropdown- only specific options like "ubuntu" and "Xfce"
[09:38] <MP24> I compiled my own WM so I want to start it from .xinitrc
[09:40] <Elench> MP24: out of curiosity, which WM?
[09:40] <MP24> Elench: xmonad, but I'm not using the stock ubuntu package (I'm using the cabal version)
[09:41] <OerHeks> MP24, GDM is old, ubuntu uses lightdm ..
[09:41] <MP24> OerHeks: oh I just assumed it was gdm :-)
[09:41] <MP24> is that the graphical login, right?
[09:41] <Elench> Yeah, I'm using StumpWM, you need to add a .desktop file
[09:41] <OerHeks> sudo service lightdm start
[09:42] <Elench> MP24: take a look at /usr/share/xsessions/
[09:42] <Elench> Oh, or not
[09:43] <MP24> oops, sorry I was disconnected
[09:43] <Elench> MP24: take a look at /usr/share/xsessions/
[09:44] <Elench> That's where the login thingie looks for options
[09:44] <MP24> Elench: Right, there are only three
[09:44] <Elench> Add another
[09:44] <MP24> ubuntu.desktop, xfce.desktop, xubuntu.desktop
[09:44] <MP24> Elench: unfortunately I can't, I don't have root
[09:44] <MP24> (it's a work machine)
[09:44] <Elench> Ah, sorry
[09:44] <MP24> Is it impossible to do without root?
[09:45] <Elench> Then my advice is basically useful, but kudos for choosing a better than average WM :þ
[09:45] <MP24> haha thanks :p
[09:46] <MP24> I can request one to be added from an admin, does "Exec" work with a full path like /home/me/bin/xmonad ?
[09:46] <Elench> WFM with /home/Elench/versioncontrolled/stumpwm/stumpwm
[09:46] <tos-1> MP24: Of course.
[09:47] <MP24> i'll probably just do that then!
[09:47] <MP24> is there a way to make "use .xinitrc" an option though?
[09:47] <OerHeks> MP24, without root priv, you cannot do anything
[09:48] <MP24> OerHeks: OK, thanks!
[09:48] <MP24> saves me the time haha
[09:50] <MP24> cheers guys!
[10:02] <sudomarize> i'm getting a lot of artifacts on my screen (not sure if this is the right term actually, basically there are faint impressions from other windows on my screen), anyone know what could be causing this?
[10:02] <sudomarize> it's on my thinkpad x240, thought it might be a distro issue, but i changed from 14.04 to elementaryos (ubuntu-based) and the problem still persists.
[10:03] <sudomarize> if anyone has any idea of what could be causing this issue please let me know
[10:03] <OerHeks> sudomarize, did you install any prop driver?
[10:03] <trijntje> sudomarize: bad cable can give shadows
[10:03] <sudomarize> OerHeks: what's a prop driver?
[10:04] <OerHeks> proprietary
[10:04] <sudomarize> trijntje: ah so it's a problem with the machine?
[10:04] <sudomarize> OerHeks: er nope haven't done that
[10:04] <sudomarize> didn't realize there were any
[10:05] <huig> clear
[10:05] <OerHeks> type driver is dash, or whatever elementary uses ..
[10:05] <trijntje> sudomarize: ah, on a laptop, that makes it hard to check. Can you see if you get the same issue in the bios? Faint shadows etc? If so i'd say its the connection between the screen and the video card
[10:06] <sudomarize> trijntje: they appear when i turn on the laptop and i need to enter my passphrase to decrypt my /home folder (not sure if this is bios)
[10:07] <huig> hello, i have a pc with two users, lets say user1 and user2. when i connect an usb storage device to the pc, how it is decided where to mount it?how could i achieve to have read access from both user1 and user2
[10:07] <trijntje> no, the bios is before that, you should probably check your laptop manual to see how you can get there, its different for every pc
[10:07] <OerHeks> huig, normally it mounts under /media/
[10:08] <OerHeks> huig, read access, what type of partition is on that usb?
[10:08] <huig> OerHeks: yeah, but with user1 i can access it but without user2 i can't
[10:08] <sudomarize> trijntje: when i was running on 14.04, i don't recall seeing the shadows in BIOS then, only after exiting BIOS
[10:09] <EriC^^> huig: you can mount it manually somewhere else
[10:09] <EriC^^> huig: is it ntfs fat ?
[10:09] <huig> EriC^^: yeah
[10:10] <huig> the problem is i am ssh-ing the pc, and i can access it with user2, don't have root privilegues. i am trying to access the usb that it is at /media but i don't have access to it with user2
[10:10] <EriC^^> huig: mount it with the options you want
[10:11] <EriC^^> huig: you'll have to remount it
[10:11] <EriC^^> huig: do you have access to user1?
[10:11] <huig> EriC^^: no, only user2
[10:12] <OerHeks> so ssh has no access to /media/ .. of to the usb ... ?
[10:12] <OerHeks> of-or
[10:13] <OerHeks> (which is a good thing i guess)
[10:13] <gryzor> hi. How can I upgrade a 12.10 installation? do-release-upgrade fails stating my ubuntu installation is unsupported, which is the reason why I'm trying to upgrade...
[10:13] <huig> OerHeks: i tried doing it locally. i create a user and then opened another tty to login with that user. and i didn't have access with that user to /media
[10:13] <huig> s/create/created
[10:14] <OerHeks> gryzor, that would be a long long way > 12.10 - 13.04 - 13.10 - 14.04 lts ...
[10:14] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[10:14] <gryzor> OerHeks: that's fine
[10:14] <gryzor> thanks :)
[10:14] <EriC^^> huig: /media/<user> can only be accessed by <user>
[10:14] <OerHeks> gryzor, see the eolupgrades url, howto all old-releases in your sourceslist
[10:14] <EriC^^> huig: you'd have to add another user to as an ACL
[10:15] <huig> EriC^^: but why is that usb mounted in /media/user1 and it isn't mounted at /media/user2?
[10:15] <EriC^^> huig: cause gvfs automounts it under the user that's logged on
[10:16] <huig> EriC^^: and what if the usb is connected before an user loggs?
[10:16] <EriC^^> it won't automount
[10:17] <EriC^^> if it's in /etc/fstab with auto as an option it would automount when you boot the pc
[10:17] <huig> EriC^^: so if the user connects the usb before it loggs, could i ssh with user2 and mount it to /media/user2?
[10:18] <gerry_> ciao.. sto usando una macchina virtuale creata con virtualbox nella quale ho installato xubuntu 14.04
[10:19] <gerry_> chromium con verisione aggiornata alla 41 non funziona più bene...
[10:19] <OerHeks> gerry_, this channel is english only please
[10:19] <OerHeks> !it | gerry
[10:19] <EriC^^> huig: try udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdxY
[10:20] <gerry_> hi.. I installed xubuntu 14.04 on a vm created with virtualbox..
[10:20] <huig> EriC^^: right now i can't try it
[10:20] <gerry_> if update chromium at version 41.x stops to work right
[10:21] <gerry_> anybofy knows something about this problem?
[10:21] <huig> EriC^^: but it is possible to mount it to my user without being root?
[10:21] <EriC^^> yes, using udisksctl
[10:22] <huig> EriC^^: so althought it will mount to /media/usr1, i could access /dev/sdxY and mount it to wherever i want withouth being root?that would be just great!!
[10:22] <EriC^^> and udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdxY to unmount
[10:22] <EriC^^> ( unmount not umount )
[10:23] <EriC^^> huig: it will mount to whatever user runs the command
[10:23] <huig> EriC^^: so tu sum up, /dev has read access to all users?
[10:24] <gerry_> it seems that chromium, from a certain version, stops to work properly.. but just on vitualbox machine
[10:27] <EriC^^> huig: ah no
[10:27] <OerHeks> gerry_, did the install give any error?
[10:27] <OerHeks> gerry try in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f # to see if this corrects problems
[10:28] <chotaz`w> I have to run "sudo lsusb" everytime I bootup so my USB ports actually start working. How can I explain and fix this?
[10:28] <EriC^^> huig: i think your user has to have sudo for it to work over ssh
[10:28] <EriC^^> just tried it out
[10:28] <huig> EriC^^: tried to do it locally. but udisksctl -b mount /dev/sdb1 gived me an error: is already mounted at ...
[10:29] <gerry_> installation with ubuntu center.. no errors
[10:29] <EriC^^> yeah that means it's already mounted
[10:29] <padler> citrix
[10:29] <huig> EriC^^: so it can't be mounted twice?
[10:29] <gerry_> ok.. i try...
[10:30] <EriC^^> huig: are you using ssh?
[10:30] <EriC^^> cause it won't work
[10:30] <huig> EriC^^: no, only tried to do it locally
[10:31] <EriC^^> huig: unmount it first
[10:31] <huig> EriC^^: the trick if the other user has to see it mounted too haha
[10:32] <EriC^^> i dont follow
[10:33] <EriC^^> huig: am i helping you spy on someone or get their stuff?
[10:34] <huig> EriC^^: hahaha no, if not i couldn't ssh that pc. i am doing it just for fun with my laptop and pc
[10:35] <gerry_> no.. executing apt-get install -f don't correct the problem
[10:35] <gerry_> I execute atp-get autoremove too.. but problem still exist
[10:38] <OerHeks> gerry_, any diskspace left on that VM ?
[10:38] <OerHeks> gerry_, tries to restart the VM ?
[10:38] <OerHeks> tried*
[10:40] <gerry_> restart done.. but doesn't work... it's a bug on virtualbox!? I think... in a vmware machine chromium works fine
[10:41] <gerry_> in my virtualbox vm it works until 40.x version..
[10:43] <hateball> gerry_: What does "stop working properly" even mean? Does the application start at all?
[10:43] <amro_> hello
[10:44] <gerry_> no.. chromium starts.. but if I try to change orders of tabs (for example) I can't do it anymore...
[10:45] <g105b> Hi, how do I pin a terminal-based application to the launcher, so it behaves as a self-contained app rather than interacting with my other terminal windows?
[10:45] <gerry_> if I open developer tools with ctrl+shift+i I can't resize area
[10:45] <gerry_> there's many problems
[10:47] <Hackwar> hi folks, can I shutdown a server while it is reshaping a RAID? I've been changing my RAID1 to a RAID5 with 2 disks and then added 2 additional disks. Right now it is reshaping that RAID and says it will take 2 more days until everything is fine again. After that, I will extend the filesystem on that RAID. In any case, I'm expecting additonal RAM today and wanted to install it asap.
[10:47] <OerHeks> Hackwar, no, let it run
[10:47] <Hackwar> So, can I shut down the server to do that and then fire it up again and it will continue at that point in time or does it start all over again?
[10:47] <Hackwar> ok
[10:48] <ika> hello everyone i've installed ubuntu yesterday ... and just for fun createt a secound user and got a problem now when i log in with the new user and want to use the terminal i cant use the terminal history with the arrow keys ... if i press one of the key it writes signs like: [[A; or something like that gow can i fix that? =)
[10:48] <EriC^^> ika: how did you create the user?
[10:48] <EriC^^> useradd?
[10:48] <ika> yes
[10:48] <Kaby> hello guys i need an advice which is the best antivirus for ubuntu 14.10
[10:48] <EriC^^> ok, adduser is more thorough and interactive
[10:48] <OerHeks> !antivirus
[10:49] <EriC^^> ika: or else you need to set the shell for the user and create the user with a home dir
[10:49] <Kaby> OerHeks, so ubuntu don't need antivirus ?
[10:50] <OerHeks> Kaby, standard updated clamTK should do fine. for ubuntu.
[10:50] <Kaby> oh ok
[10:51] <ika> i createt the user with a home directory but got an error message when i tried to make his the bash but got an error ...
[10:51] <ika> *his shell the bash
[10:51] <OerHeks> Kaby, but if you really want it, check out that page
[10:51] <Kaby> OerHeks, i am downloading it from download center now
[10:51] <EriC^^> ika: chsh <user> -s /bin/bash
[10:51] <EriC^^> something like that
[10:51] <ika> ok thy iĺl try =)
[10:52] <zenguy> Should i get these two low latency .deb files while installing a new kernel ? is it necessary ?(linux-headers-low latency.deb and linux-image-low latency.deb)
[10:53] <OerHeks> zenguy, normally no. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[10:54] <zenguy> OerHeks: ok thank you
[10:55] <ika> hmh still not working :/ tried chsh ika -s /bin/bash and same with sudo i didnt get an error message but still cant use the arrow keys .... do i need to restart ubuntu before it has an effect maybe?
[10:58] <tj83> anyone familiar with avconv options? I want to record from a v4l2 source and I'm able to do so. When I look at the verbose output I see that its in the wrong size 720x480 not 640x480 and it seems YUV420p which is a PAL standard? It should be NTSC
[11:02] <gfodranoel> Good Morning!
[11:03] <tj83> g'morning gfodranoel
[11:04] <gfodranoel> where are you speaking from, tj83?
[11:05] <tj83> Georgia, US
[11:05] <murcha> hi
[11:05] <gfodranoel> Very good. Nice to meet you!
[11:06] <gfodranoel> Hi Murcha! Nice to meet you!
[11:06] <tj83> having morning coffee, trying to figure out some of these avconv options for video capture.
[11:06] <murcha> i run an script with &, now the scripts keeps running and sending me emails. how should i stop the script
[11:08] <gfodranoel> murcha: you know the script name?
[11:08] <tj83> murcha, maybe it set up a chron task? is it a set time interval? look in /etc/chrontab and other cron files in /etc?
[11:09] <murcha> gfodranoel: i created the script my self
[11:09] <tj83> crontab* not chron coffee not working yet.
[11:09] <murcha> gfodranoel: it is a shell script
[11:10] <murcha> tj83: i just check crontab -l not found there
[11:11] <gfodranoel> murcha: ps -ef | grep script_name
[11:11] <gfodranoel> murcha: take the PID number and then use the command
[11:11] <gfodranoel> murcha: kill pid_number
[11:11] <gfodranoel> murcha: it is a shell script
[11:12] <gfodranoel> murcha: it is a shell
[11:12] <gfodranoel> murcha: it is a terminal
[11:12] <gfodranoel> i'm sorry
[11:12] <murcha> gfodranoel: it is a shell scrip, inside a loop that runs every 10 second. then i used ./alet.sh & to run the command
[11:13] <murcha> gfodranoel: now it runs all the time
[11:13] <tj83> https://0paste.tk/7440 murcha can you show us the script? that might help figure out what is happening.
[11:13] <gfodranoel> murcha: do it then
[11:14] <gfodranoel> murcha: ps -ef |grep alet
[11:14] <gfodranoel> murcha: use the terminal (xterm)
[11:14] <gfodranoel> murcha: in root mode
[11:16] <cyberbrai> hot to copy and paste the file through ssh in ubuntu 14.04lts
[11:16] <cyberbrai> hot = how
[11:16] <murcha> gfodranoel: i did ps to find the id, and then killed the pid. But still i get the emails
[11:17] <somekindofwizard> I have a problem. Whenever I need to enter my password to get root previliges the window for entering your password fails to appear. I am running Ubuntu Server with a KDE GUI.
[11:17] <cyberbrai> any help
[11:17] <gfodranoel> murcha: may still be with exit status
[11:18] <gfodranoel> murcha: or let's say, is still in the queue
[11:18] <tj83> cyberbrai, man scp
[11:18] <cyberbrai> tj83 yes scp
[11:19] <murcha> gfodranoel: will it remove from queue or should i do an action to remove it from the queue?
[11:19] <gfodranoel> murcha: you can verify that the process is still there?
[11:19] <tj83> cyberbrai, command "man scp" will give you all the info
[11:19] <cyberbrai> I've tried
[11:19] <cyberbrai> scp <file> <username>@<IP address or hostname>:<Destination>
[11:20] <gfodranoel> murcha: he at some point will leave all of the line
[11:21] <gfodranoel> murcha: try using the command: kill -9 pid
[11:21] <cyberbrai> tj83 just for example send any command
[11:21] <tlkr> cyberbrai, that 's correct, what error are you getting?
[11:21] <tj83> cyberbrai, its been a while, but I believe the user@ip first then the file. check http://www.binarytides.com/linux-scp-command/
[11:22] <murcha> gfodranoel: i did but it closed even my ssh connection
[11:22] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: try using -> scp -rp file user@ip:/destination
[11:23] <cyberbrai> gfodranoel wait i tried
[11:24] <geirha> cyberbrai: if the destination support sftp, then you can connect with the gui file browser (nautilus) which will allow you to drag and drop files to and from
[11:24] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: which the message that tells you to
[11:24] <guite> Hi all. Is there anyone here who succeeded in running an lxc container of a debian/jessie on an ubuntu 14.04 ?
[11:24] <guite> I have a many problems I can’t solve
[11:25] <cyberbrai> gfodranoel on first time i am not understand the format
[11:25] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: ok
[11:25] <guite> first one being => http://pastebin.com/LNjEYXyD
[11:25] <cyberbrai> gfodranoel i have a file in downloads and i want to copy and paste in another user home
[11:26] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: scp -rp <file> <username>@<IP address or hostname>:/home/name
[11:27] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: this command is only for sending files to remote destinations
[11:27] <cyberbrai> ok
[11:28] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: the file copy will be from one machine to another different?
[11:28] <murcha> gfodranoel: it didn't help stoping the emails
[11:29] <geirha> murcha: Could you show the script that's "running out of control"?
[11:30] <gfodranoel> murcha: which the sending mail service being used? you can tell me?
[11:30] <gfodranoel> murcha: we will try to stop the service
[11:30] <geirha> It also matters if it was run as a script, or a loop run in an interactive session
[11:32] <murcha> geirha: http://pastebin.com/Tc66Ja25
[11:32] <geirha> murcha: there's no loop there
[11:32] <murcha> gfodranoel: i deleted the loop
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:33] <murcha> geirha: i deleted the loop
[11:33] <geirha> murcha: So there's no way to see what the code running now looks like?
[11:34] <gfodranoel> murcha: no use to clean the script loop
[11:34] <gfodranoel> murcha: if he is still with the active process, will not take effect
[11:34] <murcha> geirha: is it running from some crap
[11:36] <geirha> murcha: doesn't help much :/
[11:41] <geirha> Without seeing the while loop you used, it's hard to know what process(es) to kill
[11:42] <geirha> (there's also a big difference in running said while loop from a script and from an interactive shell session)
[11:44] <Eightynine> Hi. Can anyone please help me to install and configure any window manager to make my system lightweght, fast and usable?
[11:45] <gfodranoel> Eightynine: What is your Linux distro?
[11:46] <geirha> or rather, what Ubuntu release
[11:46] <Eightynine> It was Ubuntu LTS with Gnome, but I changed my DE to MATE with Uubuntu MATE look and feel.
[11:47] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop package Eightynine
[11:47] <bazhang> !lubuntu | Eightynine
[11:47] <brainvvash> Eightynine: MATE is not lightweght, fast and usable?
[11:49] <Eightynine> I installed LXDE too but I don't like it. It looks old and I don't like it's menu. MATE consumes 400-600 MB RAM and sometimes it's menu lags. Also it's menu is overloaded with options.
[11:49] <gfodranoel> Eightynine: There is also Xubuntu which refers to XFCE. Very light and beautiful. I believe that will provide you a great experience: http://xubuntu.org/
[11:50] <Eightynine> Thunar is totally unusable, and also fonts were small, rendering was bad. Don't know why.
[11:52] <bazhang> whats the ram and cpu on the Eightynine
[11:53] <bazhang> also what video card Eightynine
[11:53] <hydrajump> hi if APT has an older version of a package and a newer version is available but only as source. Is there a way to see how the package was built, so I can build a newer one using the source?
[11:53] <Eightynine> Phenom II X4 B93, 4 GB DDR3-1333, Radeon 6750
[11:54] <hydrajump> the package I'm looking at is postfix. In APT the version is 2.x.x and the latest stable version is 3.0.0.
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> hydrajump are you a developer?
[11:54] <Eightynine> It seems like brightness is too high, also pixels are very big, in some places they are just huge.
[11:54] <bazhang> Eightynine, that card is very old, what driver are you using
[11:55] <hejsan> Hello, why does top/uptime show I have 15 users but I'm the only user and w only shows two sessions from me?
[11:55] <bazhang> additionally Eightynine what version of ubuntu is this
[11:56] <Eightynine> Open-source driver. I hate AMD proprietary drivers. I already told that Ubuntu LTS
[11:56] <bazhang> lsb_release -a in terminal Eightynine
[11:56] <Eightynine> You need version? It's 14.04.2
[11:57] <bazhang> also Eightynine please pastebin your sources.list
[11:58] <Eightynine> I expected wonderful fonts and rendering from Ubuntu, that's how it's famous(sorry, my english is not so good, don't know how to tell you to make you understand what I mean)
[11:59] <Guest-5979> hi everyboy
[11:59] <OerHeks> Eightynine, have you tried a different font?
[11:59] <bazhang> Eightynine, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras yet, thats where the wonderful fonts come from
[12:00] <gfodranoel> Eightynine: Do you speak Portuguese?
[12:00] <Eightynine> They were pretty good in Gnome but fonts in panel was not so good. And in LXDE and XFCE they are not so good at all. I'll try to install those extras
[12:01] <Eightynine> Not at all. Only russian. But on russian channel people reply long
[12:01] <bazhang> Eightynine, thats the very first thing you should install on a new ubuntu install
[12:02] <Eightynine> Thanks. What about my graphics card I'm planning to replace it with GT740. What can you say about this?
[12:02] <bazhang> Eightynine, look online and see about ubuntu/linux support first, before buying any hardware at all
[12:03] <BluesKaj> eilSeq, nvidia has fewer problems with linux drivers than amd/ati
[12:03] <bazhang> BluesKaj, what about that particular card,. he should websearch first
[12:04] <BluesKaj> bazhang, you're right of course, but statement was a generalm observation
[12:04] <BluesKaj> my statement that is
[12:05] <BluesKaj> sorry eilSeq , wrong nick
[12:05] <Minus_> hi
[12:10] <Minus_> i need some help: i'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop with personalization made with kickstart and debconf. In the debconf and kickstart file there is the initial user name and encrypted password, but when i install ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the program always ask me password
[12:11] <Minus_> i try to use my files with ubuntu-server, and everything is ok
[12:11] <Minus_> it's nos works with ubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <Layl> me again, so the story so far, trying to install ubuntu in dual boot on fastraid, did this so far: gparted to set up partitions -> install with manually setting the partitions in the installer -> ubuntu works but windows is gone from grub -> update ubuntu -> nothing works, grub starts into console -> run boot-repair -> now only windows boots and ubuntu gives "invalid magic number"
[12:12] <Layl> *fakeraid
[12:12] <Layl> not fastraid
[12:12] <Layl> certainly not fastraid
[12:14] <Layl> anyone got any tips on what to do from here to get ubuntu running again?
[12:14] <megapixel> How to restore userprofile after reinstall ubuntu?
[12:14] <megapixel> Dont format /home
[12:14] <megapixel> nickname 1-1
[12:15] <bennie> groeten bennie ha ha
[12:18] <Eightynine> I'm here again.
[12:18] <Tester> Hii all
[12:18] <Minus_> someone can help me for installing ubuntu-desktop 14.04 LTs with kickstart ou debconf. The probleme is that even the encrypt password is on the config file the interface ask me inital use name and his password. Thank you for your help
[12:18] <Eightynine> Hi Tester.
[12:19] <Tester> i am not getting side menu after doing startx
[12:19] <Eightynine> What DE do you use?
[12:19] <Tester> Eightynine: how to know that? well i am using ubuntu 14.04
[12:20] <OerHeks> Tester, uh oh, startx is depreciated, it is "sudo service lightdm start "now
[12:20] <Eightynine> If you are using XFCE, try startxfce4
[12:20] <Tester> no i am not using xface
[12:20] <Tester> i guess it is gnome
[12:20] <Tester> I am not sure
[12:21] <Eightynine> I didn't know about that. Could this be a cause of "Can not connect to X Server"?
[12:21] <Tester> OerHeks: but previously it was working fine
[12:21] <OerHeks> Tester, doubtfull.
[12:21] <Tester> No x server connects fine
[12:21] <Layl> any information on how to fix the "invalid magic number, you need to load the kernel first" problem?
[12:21] <Eightynine> I don't know how to check DE.
[12:22] <Tester> Eightynine: as i do startx i get my wallpaper but no launch bar (side menu)
[12:23] <Tester> OerHeks: is it gone after update?
[12:23] <brainvvash> Tester: why don't you start the session via the login greeter?
[12:24] <Eightynine> I think you're using either Gnome or Unity.
[12:24] <Tester> yes
[12:24] <Tester> i got it by renaming ~/.config/dconf/user
[12:24] <Eightynine> What about my graphics and font rendering issues and menu lags in MATE?
[12:25] <Smoth> Hi guys, I'd like to make a popular freeware application (teampseack3) easily avabile for ubuntu via a package, is there any way to do that whitout having to pay? Let's say I made a package that works the way flashplugin-installer does, that could fit into launchapd?
[12:25] <brainvvash> Eightynine: did you ask in the MATE channel?
[12:25] <Smoth> teamspeak*
[12:25] <OerHeks> Tester, login with tty2 ( ctrl alt F2) and 'rm -rf ~/.Xauthority' and reboot. this might fix your issue that startx created.
[12:28] <OerHeks> Smoth, there is an reason why teamspeak does not provide packages in a PPA on launchpad, ask them why.
[12:28] <OerHeks> Smoth, probably because they do not give the sourcecode for review.
[12:28] <Smoth> OerHeks: I'm curious
[12:29] <Smoth> OerHeks: that's well known
[12:36] <newbnewb> anyone home?
[12:36] <newbnewb> i could use some help
[12:37] <teward> newbnewb: just ask your real question and address the channel
[12:38] <IncredibleHighIQ> how to list top 100 channels in x-chat?
[12:38] <IncredibleHighIQ> or whatever client
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> newbnewb let's hear it
[12:38] <newbnewb> teward I don't use IRC much at all...does "address the channel" just mean ask in general or is their some etiquette?
[12:38] <OerHeks> IncredibleHighIQ, go into the menu: server: list of channels
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> IncredibleHighIQ ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <OerHeks> IncredibleHighIQ, then select the number row, easy peasy
[12:39] <Layl> Could I get some help? My ubuntu partition fails to boot
[12:39] <Layl> it gives me "invalid magic number, you need to load the kernel first"
[12:39] <Layl> I've already run boot-repair, it got me from not showing anything in grub at all to this
[12:40] <newbnewb> ok thanks....I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and am trying to find a way to show all apps? I am using Unity...and it only show 5 or 6 apps....some like firefox are only on the dock...I googled but didn't see a working solution
[12:40] <newbnewb> im sorry for the ignorance but the unity icon top left...cant remember its name...when I click it I only see a few apps....show more doesn't show all
[12:40] <OerHeks> newbnewb, open dash, and select the white "A" icon on the bottom
[12:41] <badbodh> layl did you select one of the partitions to write mbr? during install that is...
[12:41] <newbnewb> ah the software center?
[12:41] <Layl> badbodh: I did, it wrote to the correct partition for my setup
[12:41] <Layl> which was /dev/mapper/somethingsomething_Volume01
[12:41] <newbnewb> is there a way to see them all in one click? when i open the dash it defaults to "applications"....but doesnt show all
[12:42] <OerHeks> newbnewb, then see right top corner 'filter results' and click on that
[12:42] <newbnewb> the
[12:42] <bijoo_> Hi DPKG says oracle-java7 uninstalled ; but in fact it's installed manually in the right location; how can I make DPKG "aware" of that so it shows it's installed?
[12:42] <badbodh> layl that isn't how it shows on the installer. There you choose sda,sdb etc for mbr
[12:42] <badbodh> is it a fresh install or old?
[12:42] <newbnewb> OerHeks I see that and Applications is selected in the filter
[12:42] <Layl> badbodh, yea it doesn't for me because I've got a weird fakeraid setup
[12:42] <Layl> it's a fresh install on an next to an existing windows install
[12:43] <newbnewb> but for some reason not all show
[12:43] <OerHeks> !java | bijoo_ read this page howto select your java version
[12:43] <Layl> installing grub to /dev/sda will not boot into grub at all, installing to that one in mapper will boot to grub
[12:44] <newbnewb> Help, thunderbird, videos, texteditor,calculator and rhythmbox are all that show....firefox and libreoffice are in the dock
[12:44] <badbodh> layl oh, dunno much about fakeraid sorry
[12:44] <Layl> I can currently still choose and boot into windows, just the ubuntu install doesn't work
[12:44] <Layl> I do not think it is a problem with fakeraid anymore
[12:44] <badbodh> if your windows bootloader shows, it means grub wasn't installed correctly
[12:44] <Layl> no, windows shows in the grub menu
[12:44] <Layl> it doesn't immediately go to windows
[12:45] <badbodh> oh kk
[12:45] <Layl> as well, I've previously been able, after install, to boot into ubuntu
[12:45] <Layl> but after running updates and restarting, it refused to boot anymore
[12:45] <Layl> it showed me a grub bash shell instead
[12:45] <pikaciu> Layl try installing grub from windows
[12:45] <Layl> so after running boot repair from a livecd, I'm now in this situation, where windows and ubuntu show in grub
[12:45] <Layl> but ubuntu doesn't start
[12:45] <sudomarize> what does "sudo apt-get install -y" do?
[12:45] <newbnewb> when I open the dash it defaults with the Home icon highlighted at bottom and Applications the only category....but not all apps show despite selecting for it in the filter
[12:46] <sudomarize> the "-y" part specifically
[12:46] <ikonia> sudomarize: nothing as you have not specified a package
[12:46] <Layl> pikaciu, I think grub is installed fine, it's starting up without issues
[12:46] <ikonia> -y is auto respond with "yes"
[12:46] <sudomarize> ikonia: thanks
[12:46] <OerHeks> sudomarize, nothing without the name of a package ( -y will answer y on all questions)
[12:46] <newbnewb> can someome help me in private? I am getting overwhelmed by the messages....new to this
[12:47] <cryptic0> I added a new path to a binary in /etc/environment, then logged out and back in, but the changes aren't taking effect.
[12:47] <cryptic0> Also tried source /etc/environment in vain
[12:47] <badbodh> layl yeah grub is fine, but it cannot detect where your ubuntu root partition is
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> newbnewb if you go private and no solution is found, then you would have to start over, explaining everything
[12:47] <bijoo_> OerHeks: already ran update-alternatives; thanks for suggestion, though issue's still there: how to make 'dpkg' aware of manually installed package
[12:47] <Layl> badbodh, should I run an update-grub2 or won't that do much in this case?
[12:48] <newbnewb> ok monkeydust....just hard to keep up...I am old and not good at this stuff
[12:48] <badbodh> Layl yeah do that see what error ,if any, it throws up
[12:48] <pikaciu> Layl recovery mode from grub ?
[12:48] <badbodh> also try read this link if you haven't
[12:48] <badbodh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[12:48] <bijoo_> I think I found the answer to question : http://askubuntu.com/questions/71510/how-do-i-create-a-ppa/493577#493577
[12:49] <Layl> badbodh, what should I pass to update-grub2 to make it aware of where grub is installed to I don't think it's gonna grab it by default (had problems before)
[12:49] <Layl> pikaciu, recovery mode?
[12:50] <pikaciu> Layl you dont't have Advanced Options in grub ?
[12:50] <Layl> oh right it's in there, I'll try that in a bit after running update-grub2
[12:50] <untaken> I have a multi monitor setup, how can I invoke a keyboard shortcut to move to the left/right monitor? ie move the focus on my cursor
[12:50] <badbodh> pikaciu it won't matter, magic number problem means grub can't see ubuntu's root partition
[12:50] <badbodh> won't boot anyway
[12:51] <pikaciu> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:51] <Layl> if I select a different kernel version in that list it will give something other than invalid magic number btw
[12:51] <badbodh> Layl boot into usb/dvd and 'sudo grub-install /dev/-wherever you choose-'
[12:51] <pikaciu> Layl did you encrypt ?
[12:51] <OerHeks> bijoo_, i think you must read " How do I install Oracle JRE 7?" on that java page
[12:52] <Layl> I did not encrypt
[12:52] <philinux> Firefox 37.0.1 on Ubuntu 14.10 maxing out cpu, anyone else getting this?
[12:52] <Layl> badbodh, grub has already been reinstalled, this is the result of after an install of grub
[12:52] <badbodh> Layl: first run 'lsblk' or 'sudo blkid' in terminal to know how your hard drives are identified
[12:52] <Layl> boot repair did the reinstall
[12:52] <badbodh> but maybe not in the right location
[12:53] <Layl> when it gave me the commands to copypaste it was in the right location and if it wasn't installed it wouldn't even show up on boot right?
[12:54] <Layl> I'm just wondering now what went wrong that an ubuntu update could wreck itself so badly
[12:54] <badbodh> Layl hmm, that's true. Just run update-grub from live usb then
[12:55] <Layl> if I had a backup drive large enough I would just dump the entire windows partition to it and revert my raid to 2 separate drives, one for each OS
[12:56] <Layl> badbodh, update-grub2 shows "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[12:57] <badbodh> eh where did the /cow come from?
[12:57] <Layl> from the process of trying to get anything to show up in grub at all yesterday, I can already guess this will be a repeating issue
[12:57] <pikaciu> from a farm
[12:57] <Layl> I just ran "sudo update-grub2"
[12:57] <Layl> not sure if I should have passed it anything
[12:57] <Layl> or chrooted into anything
[12:59] <badbodh> normally ubuntu never needed to be chrooted, even the help page syas just update-grub
[12:59] <badbodh> chroot then
[12:59] <Layl> badbodh: chroot the volume or the ubuntu partition?
[12:59] <badbodh> if you can't mount your root, that's a good news
[12:59] <badbodh> ubuntu's root partition
[13:00] <badbodh> first mount it in /mnt
[13:00] <Layl> alright, just a moment while I do that with the gigantic name of it
[13:02] <Layl> badbodh: I've chrooted it, now I'm gonna run update-grub2 again
[13:02] <badbodh> good luck
[13:02] <Layl> "cannot find a device for /"
[13:02] <bijoo_> OerHeks: I ended up installing it your way; though wish I could have used manual one :( now have duplicate jdks on there; :)
[13:03] <bijoo_> OerHeks: thanks for your help and suggestion here.
[13:03] <badbodh> Layl what? how can it not find a device? you just mounted it...and chrooted to it
[13:03] <Layl> badbodh, and there's nothing in /dev/mapper/ here
[13:04] <Layl> not my volume, not my partitions
[13:04] <Layl> only something called "control"
[13:04] <pikaciu> Layl if you get realllllly despaired you can try , from win, Grub2Win. once it helped me
[13:04] <Layl> but it's not a grub problem is it?
[13:04] <newbnewb> help with the dash please? I am trying to make it so I can see all apps with one click....but it only shows 6 of them in the dash no matter how I filter
[13:04] <badbodh> looks like your raid thingy is messing up
[13:04] <Layl> if this needs a reinstall of ubuntu I can do that
[13:04] <badbodh> but try his method anyway
[13:04] <Layl> uggh it will just take so much extra time
[13:05] <badbodh> well you said it was a frsh install
[13:06] <badbodh> re-install, and this time observe what is getting updated
[13:06] <Layl> it's a lot of things though
[13:06] <badbodh> did you use synaptic to upgrade/
[13:06] <badbodh> ?
[13:06] <Layl> it was updating for like 10 minutes
[13:06] <Layl> I just got a window pop up that said it was going to update
[13:06] <badbodh> oh, that is supposed to be the safe way
[13:06] <liu_> hello
[13:06] <badbodh> lol
[13:06] <liu_> i am chinese
[13:07] <Layl> after that update it just didn't boot anymore
[13:07] <Layl> again, if I in the advanced menu in grub select an older kernel version to boot to, it doesn't show "invalid magic number" but something else
[13:07] <badbodh> what does it show?
[13:07] <Layl> kinda feels like it messed up a kernel update big time
[13:07] <Layl> give me a moment to restart my PC and i'll take a look
[13:09] <Layl> badbodh: "device-mapper; device lookup failed"
[13:10] <badbodh> check your bios, your raided drives are messing up
[13:10] <Layl> what should I be checking for
[13:11] <Layl> the raid status screen shows everything's alright
[13:11] <badbodh> don't know, ubutu does have a nasty habit of changing hard disk settings in bios
[13:11] <badbodh> check those
[13:11] <Layl> wouldn't that also affect windows though
[13:11] <Layl> because windows still boots fine
[13:12] <OerHeks> huh ? " changing hard disk settings in bios" ?
[13:12] <ofoto> when i right click i can only open file with archive manager , xarchiver , gdebi. ubuntu software center doesnt show itself even in full list of programs ,any ideas what to do ? i thought purge and reinstall but asking first seems better
[13:12] <badbodh> windows 7 should, if it doesn't you can always change it back
[13:12] <ofoto> about .deb files
[13:12] <Layl> badbodh, no I mean if it has changed hard drive settings wouldn't that have already affected windows
[13:12] <rainbowtux> Hi all, small OT question: is there a good tutorial to build a system booting from squashfs?
[13:13] <Layl> as well I wouldn't know what to look for as I don't generally look into the bios
[13:13] <hateball> ofoto: gdebi is used to install debs in the gui
[13:13] <hateball> ofoto: if you are not installing them from a repository (software center)
[13:13] <badbodh> layl if you are using win7, it will alwys work no matter how badly you mess up the bios :D
[13:13] <OerHeks> ofoto, gdebi, or comandline sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[13:14] <badbodh> anyways forget about that, re-install buntu
[13:14] <DerRaiden> I've problem on my acer laptop, if i shutdown it doesn't turn off and the reboot doesn't go too, i tested with ubuntu gnome 14.10 and ubuntu-mate 15.04 does anyone know what the problem could be?
[13:14] <Layl> badbodh, oh wait, I just found a stackoverflow ubuntu question about mounting the device
[13:15] <Layl> it says I need to manually mount /dev and such
[13:15] <badbodh> oh, do share the link
[13:15] <ofoto> i can use gdebi but i cant use software center for deb files anymore
[13:15] <badbodh> ok
[13:15] <DerRaiden> couple days ago i used antergos where it goes quite well
[13:15] <Layl> badbodh, http://askubuntu.com/questions/82759/error-you-need-to-load-the-kernel-first-in-grub
[13:15] <badbodh> you mounted the device before doing a chroot right?
[13:16] <Layl> I did not
[13:16] <EriC^^> Layl: are you reinstalling grub?
[13:16] <Layl> I mounted the partition
[13:16] <Layl> not the dev thing
[13:16] <Layl> EriC^^, I don't even know
[13:16] <EriC^^> what's the problem?
[13:16] <Layl> "invalid magic number" when booting into ubuntu
[13:16] <Layl> windows still boots fine
[13:17] <Layl> well, except that fastboot is broken now in windows
[13:17] <OerHeks> ofoto, if you double click the deb, softwarecenter will open, maybe it takes a minut to read the package, be patient
[13:17] <dorelyo> how do I make oneko cat run at starup? :D
[13:17] <EriC^^> Layl: did you try an older kernel?
[13:17] <Layl> EriC^^, I did try to select an older kernel in grub, it doesn't boot either though it seems to get further
[13:18] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[13:18] <Layl> "device-mapper; device lookup failed"
[13:18] <Layl> abridged version of the error
[13:18] <Layl> it's looking in /dev/sda2 as well it seems
[13:18] <badbodh> layl you mount the partition before doing chroot, then the terminal will work as if you were in your original ubuntu root folder
[13:18] <Layl> which isn't correct since my raid setup's stuff is in /dev/mapper/
[13:19] <ofoto> when i double click the deb file it open it with file archiver , like zip files , if i load software center and try to install from main menu , file->install is gray/unclickable
[13:19] <badbodh> layl that's why update-grub didn't work
[13:19] <Layl> badbodh, I did that
[13:19] <OerHeks> ofoto, care to name us the deb / url ?
[13:19] <EriC^^> Layl: type sudo parted -l and pastebin it
[13:19] <ofoto> all deb files ,not just 1
[13:20] <Layl> EriC^^, just a moment while I re-start the livecd again
[13:20] <EriC^^> ok
[13:20] <OerHeks> ofoto, 'all' is such a wide spread, so you don't want to say wich from where?
[13:21] <ofoto> get-dep repository
[13:21] <Layl> EriC^^, meanwhile some more information, after the update grub just entirely only showed a bash shell, only when I rain boot-repair it showed ubuntu and windows again in a list
[13:21] <EriC^^> ok
[13:21] <ofoto> same for any .deb file i have ever downloaded , double click open archive manager
[13:22] <OerHeks> ofoto, what is the error when you use comandline "sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb"
[13:22] <ofoto> i dont get any errors with dpkg
[13:23] <newbnewb> can someone please help me in private? I am having a few probelms and cant get any answers
[13:23] <OerHeks> ofoto, solved then.
[13:23] <ofoto> just the gui ubuntu software-center is not associated with deb files any more
[13:24] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815776/
[13:24] <EriC^^> ofoto: right click > properties > open with, select software center and set as default
[13:24] <OerHeks> i think you want things too fast, softwarecenter is slow during reading a .deb you downloaded yourself
[13:25] <OerHeks> first you get the normal softwarecenter screen, and it kan take up minutes to read a deb, depending on the size
[13:25] <ofoto> when i right click open with software center is not in the list , not even in full programs list
[13:25] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_cbhbiideb_Volume01p3 /mnt
[13:26] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^, alright I've done that
[13:27] <newbnewb> anyone please?
[13:27] <marianne_> hey guys... can a US resident please validate if StarzPlay opens to a log in screen for you?
[13:27] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[13:27] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^, done, no errors so far
[13:27] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: sudo chroot /mnt
[13:27] <marianne_> In chrome and in Firefox
[13:27] <ofoto> would purge and reinstalling software-center fix things or make them worse ?
[13:27] <Layl-livedvd> alright, still no errors
[13:28] <EriC^^> ofoto: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-properties-gtk
[13:28] <roh_> how to use metasploit
[13:29] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ( it'll update the kernel too and other packages .. )
[13:29] <newbnewb> im trying solutions posted in askubntu and google and nothing works...and nobody will answer me here....is there another resource?
[13:29] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: it could remove something to install something else so check what it says before you hit y if it matters
[13:29] <Layl-livedvd> seems like it's upgrading 12 things
[13:29] <EriC^^> ok
[13:30] <roh_> how to use metasploit
[13:30] <Layl-livedvd> it's showing no removing things though
[13:30] <Layl-livedvd> alright it's done with that
[13:31] <EriC^^> ok, type update-initramfs -u -k all
[13:31] <lattera> so it looks like /boot is out of space... is there a way to clean /boot up?
[13:31] <roh_> how to convert mac address to ip address
[13:31] <EriC^^> lattera: remove old kernels
[13:31] <newbnewb> ok im giving up on linux...always troubles...no answers work....nobody will help
[13:31] <ofoto> eric^^ nice i tried but still didnt get fixed !
[13:31] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^, alright, it's done with that as well without any problems
[13:32] <EriC^^> ofoto: is it in /usr/share/applications ?
[13:32] <OerHeks> roh_, clearly you don't understand what mac adress is. and metasploit is not supported here.
[13:32] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[13:32] <Layl-livedvd> should that be /dev/sda?
[13:32] <EriC^^> i think so
[13:32] <hateball> newbnewb: Generally people don't like PM's, why not just state your question here?
[13:32] <Layl-livedvd> during the install /dev/sda was the default it installed grub to, which didn't work, I had to reinstall to the Volume01 one instead
[13:33] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: try /dev/mapper/isw_cbhbiideb_Volume01
[13:33] <Layl-livedvd> alright, just a sec
[13:33] <ofoto> yea it shows up in there
[13:33] <newbnewb> thanks for not helping a brand new user.....who cant get things to work....I appreciate the helpful environment you assholes....I was excited to try again after a few false starts that always went like this..now I remember why.....
[13:33] <newbnewb> linux is a hassle and users wont help or teach new people
[13:33] <hateball> Heh
[13:33] <OerHeks> sorry for answering you, newbnewb, good luck.
[13:33] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^: "Installation finished, no error reported"
[13:34] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: ok, update-grub
[13:34] <Layl-livedvd> also it said it installed for i386-pc platform, is that correct even though it's an x86_64 install
[13:34] <newbnewb> oerheks you didnt
[13:34] <Layl-livedvd> alright, I've ran update-grub
[13:34] <newbnewb> what you said didnt work then you just ignroed the rest
[13:34] <newbnewb> nobody will actually help
[13:34] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: ok, type exit and try rebooting
[13:35] <newbnewb> its the same in forums
[13:35] <Layl-livedvd> it found 2 linux images, 2 recovery linux images, win8 and win8 restore
[13:35] <bazhang> newbnewb, I see no question from you at all
[13:35] <Layl-livedvd> alright gonna reboot now
[13:35] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: ok, great
[13:35] <newbnewb> bazhang I have asked several times
[13:35] <bazhang> newbnewb, no name calling at here either
[13:35] <trijntje> newbnewb: you have to be patient, and I find it helps not to call people assholes if you wnat help from them
[13:35] <bazhang> newbnewb, so repeat it
[13:35] <newbnewb> now I am having a new issue and again no solution in askubuntu or online works
[13:36] <ofoto> what is the issue ?
[13:36] <bazhang> newbnewb, say the exact issue, stop repeating that
[13:36] <craig_> quit
[13:36] <newbnewb> trinntje I asked alomst an hour ago...
[13:36] <Layl> EriC^^, thanks a lot for the help so far
[13:36] <EriC^^> Layl: no problem
[13:36] <bazhang> newbnewb, that i s way outside people scroll abilities
[13:36] <Layl> booting into ubuntu shows still "invalid magic number"
[13:36] <bazhang> newbnewb, ask now
[13:36] <newbnewb> well new issue is software center wont load....new install...I dont know CLI commands except to cut and paste
[13:36] <newbnewb> none of the solutions online worked
[13:36] <ofoto> software-center
[13:37] <EriC^^> Layl: does it mention anything else?
[13:37] <ofoto> im loading it from command line just type software-center
[13:37] <newbnewb> every time I enter something an online solution says works I never get the same results
[13:37] <Layl> EriC^^: "you need to load the kernel first"
[13:37] <bazhang> newbnewb, so what version of ubuntu is this, what are your system specs, how much ram, what cpu, what graphics card, which driver for that graphics card
[13:38] <newbnewb> i also have a hard time following IRC as its small and moves too fast....I am old and not as quick as you guys
[13:38] <bazhang> newbnewb, I need all that info
[13:38] <newbnewb> if I could get help in private so I dont have to scan all text it would help
[13:38] <bazhang> newbnewb, so scroll up one line, and it will slow waaaay down
[13:38] <newbnewb> sorry I am just really frsutrated and not good at this
[13:38] <ofoto> press the up button to find the msgs u put before
[13:39] <bazhang> newbnewb, thats not the way it works here, ask your question in channel for all eyes to see and help
[13:39] <bazhang> newbnewb, please answer the questions I put for you above
[13:39] <Layl> EriC^^, it can't go into recovery mode as well for that kernel version
[13:39] <EriC^^> Layl: i see
[13:40] <Layl> I can go into the other kernel and take a picture of the result
[13:40] <bazhang> newbnewb, what cpu, what graphics card, how much ram, what version of ubuntu, I need all that info
[13:40] <EriC^^> Layl: ok
[13:40] <Layl> woah what
[13:40] <Layl> something just happened
[13:41] <Layl> EriC^^, it still showed the error but now it's showing me a login
[13:41] <Layl> a text one, not a graphical one
[13:41] <EriC^^> that's odd
[13:41] <EriC^^> in the normal ubuntu?
[13:42] <Layl> EriC^^: yes in normal ubuntu but an older kernel version
[13:42] <EriC^^> ok, try logging in
[13:42] <ralph4100> I'm running 14.04 and Chrome is highly unstable - shockwave crashes like once every 30 minutes. Seems to be especially unstable on this machine but pretty bad on others I have as well. Any thoughts on whether this is common?
[13:42] <Layl> EriC^^, it let met log into my account that I set up during install
[13:43] <ralph4100> I'm using Opera at the moment because of this, however I really want to have vim bindings (I use Vimium on Chrome) and there doesn't seem to be anything for Opera.
[13:43] <EriC^^> Layl: ok, type sudo service lightdm restart
[13:43] <Layl> it says it can't start userservice though
[13:43] <Layl> sidenote, I'm running the gnome install of ubuntu
[13:43] <EriC^^> Layl: is this a fresh install?
[13:43] <ralph4100> What I really am asking is - is Chrome horrible on ubuntu/linux for everyone else - or is there something I'm doing wrong?
[13:43] <EriC^^> first boot?
[13:43] <Layl> EriC^^, it's second boot, first boot I only did an update
[13:43] <newbnewb> bazhang I cant keep up....too much here to follow
[13:44] <bazhang> newbnewb, what amount of ram
[13:44] <EriC^^> ralph4100: it's alright, though i haven't had firefox crash in a while on youtube, so i've haven't used chrome in a while
[13:44] <Layl> EriC^^: it says unrecognized service
[13:44] <ofoto> chrome is very smooth for me
[13:44] <newbnewb> 2gb
[13:44] <bazhang> newbnewb, what graphics card
[13:44] <EriC^^> Layl: ok type sudo service gdm restart
[13:45] <newbnewb> im going to try and get on irc from that laptop...I am not using it to be here in irc
[13:45] <newbnewb> give me a few min
[13:45] <Layl> EriC^^, it's showing me a graphical login now
[13:45] <ralph4100> is there a difference in stability between Chrome and Chromium? haven't used Chromium enough to find out how well it works
[13:45] <Layl> this is exciting, one step further to a soluton!
[13:47] <EriC^^> Layl: what was updated earlier?
[13:47] <EriC^^> type less /var/log/apt/history.log
[13:47] <Layl> EriC^^, it just gave me a window pop up that it wanted to update and I let it do that
[13:47] <bazhang> ralph4100, try it and see
[13:47] <Layl> it updated a lot of stuff so I can't easily give a list
[13:47] <Layl> EriC^^, should I login and open up a terminal to add that?
[13:47] <EriC^^> Layl: yeah
[13:48] <EriC^^> Layl: also look in /var/log/gdm or something similar for the gdm logs, it might say why it's not starting
[13:48] <Layl> EriC^^: I've typed less /var/log/apt/history/log
[13:49] <Layl> *history.log
[13:49] <Layl> it's showing me a lot of stuff
[13:49] <Sagar> hello,
[13:49] <Sagar> i am using ubuntu 14.04 and host my dns over cloudflare
[13:49] <Layl> I could pastebin the entire file if you want
[13:49] <Sagar> how can i whitelist cloudflare all ips so that i wouldn't get 522 errors
[13:50] <bazhang> Sagar, try in ##networking
[13:50] <newbnewb> can the person who was PMing me please write me in private again? I cant seem to find them on list
[13:51] <newbnewb> i know I am not good at this stuff and am sorry if its frustrating
[13:51] <bazhang> newbnewb, what version of ubuntu are you on
[13:51] <Layl-Ubuntu> EriC^^, here's the entire log http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815944/
[13:51] <newbnewb> 14.04
[13:51] <Sagar> bazhang ok
[13:51] <bazhang> newbnewb, is this ubuntu, or ubuntu-based, like MINT
[13:51] <newbnewb> ubuntu
[13:51] <newbnewb> installed today
[13:52] <newbnewb> i tried many commands from google for this problem...nothing worked
[13:52] <bazhang> newbnewb, full ubuntu, or lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu
[13:52] <newbnewb> full
[13:52] <bazhang> newbnewb, whats the graphics card for that, hold old is the machine
[13:53] <newbnewb> Intel 945gm x86/mmx/sse2...not sure how old....prob from 2007 or so?
[13:54] <bazhang> newbnewb, the specs on that system mean yes, the full ubuntu is going to be very slow
[13:54] <newbnewb> bazhang would you please PM me? Its really hard for me to keep up....too much info passing constatnly
[13:55] <Layl-Ubuntu> uh oh eric timed out
[13:55] <bazhang> newbnewb, thus the problem with different things loading, like the software center
[13:55] <bazhang> newbnewb, try the package lubuntu-desktop , install , then logout and log in again
[13:56] <newbnewb> i dont know how....according to the specs this should work
[13:56] <newbnewb> i just need someone to guide me
[13:56] <newbnewb> not give me vague info
[13:56] <newbnewb> i need PM but for some reason nobody will do this
[13:56] <bazhang> newbnewb, I just told you the exact package to install, there is nothing even remotely vague about that
[13:56] <newbnewb> and I dont know HOW to isntall a package
[13:57] <newbnewb> as the software center wont load
[13:57] <newbnewb> i am VERY new to this....people are too advanced with their instructions
[13:57] <bazhang> newbnewb, then I will tell you exactly the command you need to put
[13:57] <bazhang> newbnewb, you can simply copy what you see here into a term and it will be installed'
[13:57] <newbnewb> I dont want to install lubuntu....ubuntu should work
[13:58] <newbnewb> according to the specs
[13:58] <newbnewb> and otehrs have this problem according to google
[13:58] <newbnewb> its not my laptops age
[13:58] <bazhang> newbnewb, that is going to be a very slow experience with that graphics card and that amount of ram on a nearly ten year old laptop
[13:59] <newbnewb> its not slow....its not loading at all....and google and ask ubuntu says other have this issue
[13:59] <newbnewb> but the solutions there dont fix it
[13:59] <newbnewb> other parts of the OS work....just the software center is broken
[13:59] <bazhang> newbnewb, this is troubleshooting basics, we need you to try some things, give some info to proceed
[13:59] <newbnewb> when I type in to reinstall it it says packages not available etc
[14:00] <newbnewb> how do I cut and paste from terminal to here?
[14:00] <newbnewb> even basic things like this dont work like I know and its frustrating me
[14:00] <bazhang> if you wont try even the most basic of troubleshooting steps newbnewb then no resolution of your issues will happen
[14:01] <hateball> newbnewb: you can use ctrl+shift+c or v to copy/paste in/from a terminal, as opposed to ctrl+shift in a regular gui app
[14:01] <newbnewb> bazhang I am trying...and have tried...my questions aren't directly answered....I need one on one help
[14:01] <newbnewb> thanks hateball
[14:01] <hateball> newbnewb: Or you can mark the text with the mouse, rightclick and choose copy/paste as well
[14:01] <k1l> newbnewb: ask a specific question, get a specific answer if someone knows it.
[14:01] <newbnewb> irc is overhwlming me as welll since its too many people talking....I am old and slow
[14:02] <hateball> !who | newbnewb, that's why hilighting is helpful
[14:02] <k1l> newbnewb: if you cant handle irc use ubuntuforums, askubuntu, discourse or mailinglists.
[14:03] <newbnewb> kll i tried those and none of their answers worked
[14:03] <newbnewb> and you wait days and then it still doesnt work
[14:03] <newbnewb> and I see others with same problems and no solutions....or it works for some and not others
[14:03] <newbnewb> i just need someone to PM me and walk me through
[14:03] <k1l> newbnewb: please stick to specific technical issues in here.
[14:03] <newbnewb> not sure why nobody will
[14:03] <bazhang> newbnewb, show us the exact things / guides / fixes you have tried
[14:03] <k1l> !pm | newbnewb
[14:04] <yaclm> Hello! If bekks is here: Here is the top output (http://paste.debian.net/166536/) you asked for yesterdas (Laggin input/mouse/everything after startup for up to 1 minuta, could not figure out what causes that much load. htop shows 50% kernel load but no explicit service)
[14:05] <Layl-Ubuntu> so uh, can someone take over from Eric^^ with helping me? He seems to have been disconnected
[14:05] <newbnewb> ok starting simple can I enlarge the irc typing box? everything it too mall
[14:05] <newbnewb> small
[14:05] <ofoto> i fixed my problem with .deb , it seemed that because im running kwin oner xfce i had to go to kde? systemsettings and change/add the association there and relogin
[14:05] <newbnewb> and I dont know the commans here
[14:05] <bazhang> newbnewb, what irc client is that
[14:05] <newbnewb> freenode in webbriwser
[14:05] <newbnewb> webbrowser
[14:05] <Layl-Ubuntu> newbnewb, if you are using webirc (irc in a web browser) you can control-scroll to zoom
[14:07] <Layl-Ubuntu> so it seems ubuntu perhaps has messed up a kernel update? I'm not sure what's going on here
[14:07] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: I just came, what's the issue?
[14:07] <alkisg> A chroot kernel upgrade failed?
[14:07] <newbnewb> i just cant follow here
[14:07] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg, it's a long story in a painful 8 hours (not including sleep break) install of dual boot ubuntu
[14:07] <kaatu> when i try to install ntop from ubuntu software center it gets stuck , can some one help to restart the ubuntu software center
[14:07] <ofoto> newbnewb did u have internet updates on during the installation progress ?
[14:07] <newbnewb> it moves too fast and things are gone before I can cut and psate ans answer...and I cant scroll easy
[14:08] <newbnewb> its just all too hard...
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> currently I'm booted into ubuntu with gnome on an older version of the kernel
[14:08] <newbnewb> thanks anyway
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> in grub, picking the newer version (or the default non-advanced option) gives me "invalid magic number"
[14:08] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: so basically you have abroken dual-boot and you want to fix it?
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> yea, but, this is a pretty much clean install
[14:08] <kaatu> when i try to install ntop from ubuntu software center it gets stuck , can some one help to restart the ubuntu software center
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> ubuntu first time did boot
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> but after it updated it did not anymore
[14:08] <kaatu> when i try to install ntop from ubuntu software center it gets stuck , can some one help to restart the ubuntu software center kindly some one help
[14:09] <Layl-Ubuntu> now it boots again but only in the old kernel version
[14:09] <Layl-Ubuntu> and it doesn't start dgm by default
[14:09] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: I can look with vnc if you want (I'm a sysadmin, it'll just take too long via irc..) - sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[14:09] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg: as well, after the ubuntu update, it didn't show anything in grub anymore, I had to run the boot-repair tool to get anything back
[14:10] <yaclm> Hello! My laptop lags after startup and there is a huge delay for mouse and keyboard inputs. htop shows 50% cpu load (kernel) but doesn't show which command causes this huge load. any hints, keywords, solutions? (top output: http://paste.debian.net/166536/)
[14:10] <alkisg> I've seen boot-repair mess up things numerous times...
[14:10] <kaatu> when i try to install ntop from ubuntu software center it gets stuck , can some one help to restart the ubuntu software center kindly some one help
[14:10] <ofoto> software-center
[14:11] <Layl> alkisg: I'm still here from my laptop
[14:11] <alkisg> OK
[14:11] <Layl> alkisg, keep in mind, this is a fakeraid setup
[14:11] <alkisg> Layl: ah, dual boot with windows, not with another ubuntu, right?
[14:11] <Layl> alkisg, /dev/something isn't the hard drive, it's /dev/mapper/something_Volume01
[14:11] <Layl> alkisg, it's dual boot with windows yea
[14:11] <alkisg> OK
[14:12] <Layl> alkisg, as well, grub repeatively has shown me someting with i386 dispite this being a x86_64 install
[14:13] <Layl> alkisg, there /dev/sda won't work, the initial install was with that it just booted to windows
[14:13] <alkisg> Layl: you're not using efi, are you?
[14:13] <Layl> alkisg, as far as I know my motherboard doesn't support efi
[14:13] <Layl> I recall when I did some kernel programming that I checked that as an option and it wasn't available
[14:14] <Layl> alkisg, keep in mind this is booted from my install, not from a livecd
[14:14] <Layl> alkisg: p1 and p2 are windows, p3 is ubuntu p4 is swap
[14:16] <alkisg> Layl: wait, you said you were having boot issues, and it wasn't booting into X, but now I'm seeing it booted in X?
[14:16] <Layl> alkisg, it doesn't boot with the default option in grub, but it does with the older kernel version
[14:16] <Layl> however it does show errors on booting
[14:16] <Layl> and it won't start gdm by default
[14:16] <alkisg> OK
[14:22] <alkisg> Layl, I'm not seeing any errors that way, you'd have to reboot with a live cd, so that I can install kvm there, and then boot the disk in a VM to see the boot process...
[14:22] <alkisg> ...I'm not sure if it's worth it for a new installation though
[14:23] <Layl> alkisg, I'll reboot into the live CD, would just re-installing be faster?
[14:23] <Layl> I'm afraid that it will just give the same problem again though
[14:23] <alkisg> Layl, I guess so, and if you see that it's a kernel regression, you'd just report it to launchpad..
[14:23] <alkisg> You can also test without RAID
[14:23] <Layl> alkisg, alright gonna reboot into liveCD now
[14:24] <alkisg> OK
[14:24] <Layl> alkisg, if I could disable my raid and not loose all my data on my windows machine that would be very nice
[14:24] <Layl> because that one isn't a clean install
[14:24] <alkisg> Layl: it's a software raid, which means that you can use the ubuntu partitions without a raid there
[14:24] <alkisg> I.e. have raid in windows, no raid in ubuntu
[14:24] <Layl> alkisg, it's not software raid though, it's fakeraid
[14:25] <DerRaiden> I've problem on my acer laptop, if i shutdown it doesn't turn off and the reboot doesn't go too, i tested with ubuntu gnome 14.10 and ubuntu-mate 15.04 does anyone know what the problem could be? i'd tried acpi=off noapic and so on
[14:25] <alkisg> Layl, doesn't gparted see the partitions normally and allow you to format them individually?
[14:25] <Layl> alkisg, nope it shows it as one big drive
[14:26] <r_rios> I just installed chromium in Ubuntu 14.10 and it's crashing when I browse GMail and G+. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
[14:26] <alkisg> when you run gparted /dev/sda it shows the dev/mapper instead?
[14:26] <Layl> oh, I just run the gui for gparted
[14:26] <alkisg> Layl: btw, you might want to prefer 14.04 instead of 14.10, because it's LTS
[14:26] <Layl> alkisg, I don't know, I tend to run a lot of very up to date stuff to get development tools working
[14:26] <alkisg> And it might happen that you don't get the regression there
[14:27] <alkisg> More people maintain PPAs for LTS releases than for non-LTS ones
[14:27] <TinoDidriksen> Where do I best report an X crash bug that's happening on 14.04 LTS with lts-utopic xorg and kernel installed? Somewhere on Launchpad or directly to Freedesktop?
[14:27] <alkisg> Layl: in any case, 15.04 would be better than 14.10, no?
[14:28] <Layl> alkisg, 15.04? I thought LTS was 14.04
[14:28] <alkisg> Layl: yes, I suggest 14.04 first, 15.04 second, 14.10 third
[14:28] <Layl> might want to go for 15.04 then, is there a gnome installer for that?
[14:29] <alkisg> Like, ubuntu-gnome? Or just Unity?
[14:29] <Layl> ubuntu-gnome
[14:29] <alkisg> I believe so, google a bit
[14:30] <Layl> alkisg, I'm seeing an iso though it's marked "beta 1"
[14:30] <alkisg> It's 10 days before release, get the last daily build one
[14:31] <alkisg> Layl: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/
[14:31] <Layl> alkisg, yep just found that as well
[14:31] <Layl> alright the livecd is started
[14:31] <Layl> give me a moment to start up irc and terminal again
[14:31] <designbybeck_> What does get stand for in apt-get ? I can't seem to find anything on that
[14:32] <k1l> designbybeck_: its a program name. like" what does "beck" stand for in your nickname" :)
[14:33] <Layl-Ubuntu> alright, got it all running here
[14:33] <designbybeck_> ha...figured as much k1l
[14:33] <ioria> apt is advanced package tool , get could mean 'activate'
[14:34] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg, could you give me the line again to remote in?
[14:34] <designbybeck_> yeah ioria I knew what apt stood for, but I couldn't find anything on "get"
[14:34] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: aren't you going to do the clean install?
[14:34] <Layl-Ubuntu> well I could do that as well
[14:34] <k1l> apt, apt-get and apt-cache are frontends for the libraries used
[14:34] <Layl-Ubuntu> it's probably gonna trash all over the grub entry for windows again though
[14:34] <alkisg> update-manager => options => enable universe; apt-get update; apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[14:36] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg, huh that line is opening up a window asking me to do updates
[14:36] <alkisg> there's an options button somewhere there
[14:36] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: ah, software-properties-gtk will also do :)
[14:37] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg: what do you mean?
[14:37] <alkisg> Instead of running update-manager and clicking on settings, you can enable the universe repository from software-properties-gtk
[14:37] <Layl-Ubuntu> ah nevermind I misunderstood that line, I see the settings now
[14:39] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg: I'm not sure how I can enable universe in the settings, it's not giving me a checkmark next to universe
[14:39] <geirha> codepython777: You should get your connection fixed
[14:40] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: can't help there without seeing your screen, maybe you can directly put the line in sources.list... google a bit about "enable universe ubuntu"
[14:40] <Layl> alkisg, ran the line without enabling universe
[14:40] <alkisg> Layl, ah, you have an ubuntu-gnome live cd, which already has universe enabled :)
[14:44] <ioria> designbybeck_, maybe is related to get or wget used by apt for searching package and other stuff
[14:45] <designbybeck_> ahh ioria I knew of wget, maybe so... Not a big deal, I just always wondered where that came from
[14:45] <alkisg> Layl, so, in kvm it boots with the latest kernel
[14:45] <alkisg> No gdm there though
[14:46] <alkisg> I think you should try with 14.04 or 15.04, so that you don't debug already resolved issues...
[14:46] <Layl> I'll try with 15.04
[14:46] <Layl> just to make sure it won't try to re-install a kernel again
[14:46] <danbower^work> i've just executed some debug code on the cli and there's an outrageous amount of text. cli won't respond to a ctrl-c. is it possible to kill it from another tmux window?
[14:48] <alkisg> Layl, if you want, you can remove raid members from there, format them etc
[14:48] <alkisg> Or you can keep using raid, whatever you like
[14:49] <Layl> alkisg, can I from here safely install ubuntu to non-raid?
[14:49] <Layl> by creating new partitions for it
[14:49] <alkisg> If you remove raid members correctly, yes
[14:49] <Layl> then installing grub to /dev/sda?
[14:49] <alkisg> But if you just go ahead and format them, you'll have issues...
[14:49] <alkisg> Yes you can install grub to both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb if you want
[14:50] <Layl> hm, so I'm not quite sure what to do here then, what's the correct way to add/remove stuff here then?
[14:51] <alkisg> Layl, if you're not very experienced with raid just leave it as it is, it's fine
[14:51] <Layl> alright then, should I format the partitions to allow ubuntu to install to them?
[14:52] <Layl> I recall it being said that the installer doesn't like fakeraid setups and formatting from there won't work
[14:53] <Agent_Smith_BR> .
[14:53] <alkisg> Layl, I'm not sure how the installer copes with raid nowadays, but you should be able to use mdadm, gparted etc
[14:54] <Agent86> Hi all
[14:54] <Agent86> how can I get a status of avconv to use in a progress bar
[14:54] <Layl> alkisg, I'll re-do how I formatted the partitions before, could you watch along to see if I'm doing it right?
[14:54] <Layl> meanwhile on my laptop I'm burning a dvd with 15.04
[14:55] <Agent86> in other words avcon starts converting and I want to know the progress in percent
[14:55] <r_rios> It's a segmentation fault
[14:55] <alkisg> Layl, I don't have *that* much free time, but if the problem persists after installing 15.04, I could have a look then
[14:55] <Layl> alright
[14:55] <Agent86> does avcon have something or perhaps a python subsystem
[14:56] <Layl> I'll just stay a bit in this chat then while I do the install of 15.04 and see if it works
[14:56] <Agent86> *avconv
[14:56] <Layl> alkisg, one last question for that install, should I be installing grub to Volume01 or /dev/sda when I'm using raid?
[14:57] <alkisg> Layl, I'm not sure about fakeraid, on software raid I had to install it to /dev/sda
[14:57] <alkisg> Since it worked with dev/mapper, use that now too
[14:57] <Layl> previously on fakeraid, it didn't work to /dev/sda, so I think it's gonna have to be Volume01 then
[14:57] <r_rios> Here's the segfault when I try to open GMail: http://pastebin.com/wstymUm4
[14:58] <ioria> Agent86, this is for ffmpeg but maybe you can adapt for avconv : https://gist.github.com/pruperting/397509
[14:58] <Layl> alkisg, thanks a lot for the help and patience with this problem
[14:59] <ars23> hi!
[14:59] <alkisg> You're welcome Layl, although I couldn't help much other than the advice for reinstallation :)
[15:01] <azizLIGHT> is there a gui tool to manage user groups on 14.04
[15:02] <jeff_> hi
[15:03] <pbx> azizLIGHT, nothing built in
[15:03] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, not standard, sudo apt-get gnome-system-tools >> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/install-users-groups-management-tool-ubuntu1404/
[15:03] <lisak> hi, after ubuntu-server 14.04 installation, it boots up but due to a video card problem it doesn't enter login
[15:04] <azizLIGHT> hm ok
[15:04] <lisak> is it possible to disable it somehow? I don't even need it, I'll use ssh only
[15:04] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell what groups currently exist
[15:05] <genii> azizLIGHT: Whatever's in /etc/group are all the groups
[15:05] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, type terminal 'groups' and you see what group you are in
[15:05] <yorwos> 15.04 is only as beta out yes ?
[15:06] <OerHeks> or that tool users&groups maybe??
[15:06] <OerHeks> yorwos, beta2 yes
[15:07] <yorwos> i wonder if upgrade will be ok or if clean install will be preffered again heh
[15:07] <Agent86> yikes that a bit complex to calc percentage of work done
[15:08] <OerHeks> yorwos, when you upgrade, download the iso first and put it on usb. That is where i start with.
[15:08] <Agent86> what vid card do you have ?
[15:09] <Agent86> if you have GTX 970 / 980 then I believe you need upgraded version of cuda
[15:12] <Agent86> interesting avconv seems to have a -stats option but I'm not sure how to use it
[15:15] <pavlos> Agent86, https://libav.org/avconv.html ... -stats ... print encoding progress/statistics, On by default
[15:16] <Agent86> on by default I see that, and it does print to screen but I want to use this info from stats to create a python ttk.Progressbar
[15:16] <Agent86> I just need calculations so not sure how to create a -stats variable to capture info from the console to a python variable
[15:17] <Agent86> although the encoding progress is strange in avconv it does not really show any percentage as you would think it's more of a bytes/s etc.
[15:18] <Layl> the ubuntu installer does not instantly die on trying to install the first time, this is a good improvement over previous attempts
[15:19] <Layl> for good measure, should I manually run update-grub from ubuntu before restarting after installing updates?
[15:26] <Sohail-Ahmed> I have a trouble remove a package using apt-get purge. http://pastebin.com/P1xTLYg7
[15:27] <geirha> Sohail-Ahmed: What does this say? dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/doconce
[15:27] <Layl> the moment of truth, does it still boot
[15:28] <Sohail-Ahmed> geirha: it says 'no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/doconce.'
[15:28] <geirha> Sohail-Ahmed: then it's not installed via a deb package, and cannot be uninstalled with apt
[15:29] <illoxx> test
[15:29] <Sohail-Ahmed> geirha: yes I installed it via sudo python setup.py install
[15:30] <geirha> Sohail-Ahmed: Then it might not be easy to uninstall
[15:30] <Sohail-Ahmed> geirha: and python setup.py uninstall does not work either
[15:30] <Sohail-Ahmed> geirha: any suggestions?
[15:31] <Layl> Alright, alkisg it seems to boot fine now
[15:31] <geirha> Sohail-Ahmed: http://askubuntu.com/q/38692/9016
[15:31] <OerHeks> Sohail-Ahmed, did you get it from here ? https://github.com/hplgit/doconce
[15:31] <threecatstwodogs> does ulimit -n not work anymore ?
[15:31] <Sohail-Ahmed> yes
[15:31] <OerHeks> maybe they have an uninstall.py too
[15:31] <threecatstwodogs> sysctl fs.file-max returns different to ulimit -n
[15:33] <Layl> well that only took 18 hours including a sleep break
[15:34] <Layl> I consider that a net win over the last time I tried to install debian
[15:34] <EriC^^> Layl: hey, sorry i got dc did you solve the problem?
[15:34] <pavlos> threecatstwodogs, http://serverfault.com/questions/122679/how-do-ulimit-n-and-proc-sys-fs-file-max-differ
[15:34] <Layl> EriC^^, yep what solved the issue was format and install 15.04 instead
[15:34] <EriC^^> hehe :D
[15:35] <Layl> which does not make a kernel update so there's no way for grub to get confused to hell and back
[15:35] <kolbe> i have an Ubuntu 14.04 VM with a x86_64 CPU. i added a repository that has a Release file with "Architectures: amd64". when i do ''apt-get update'', the repo i added causes this message: "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)". i'm told this is because of "multiarch support". is it configurable?
[15:35] <Layl> now I can finally do the #1 goal I wanted gnome grub for, to have a material design theme
[15:35] <Layl> so worth it
[15:35] <EriC^^> cool
[15:36] <Layl> oh, one question, I've got an nvidia card, should I install drivers from the nvidia website before that will work right
[15:36] <Layl> it's a pretty recent card
[15:36] <Layl> was state of the art when I bought it
[15:36] <EriC^^> Layl: no idea, i have ati myself but the open source seem to run cooler and ok
[15:36] <EriC^^> are you going to game on it?
[15:37] <Layl> only with the games that run
[15:37] <Layl> I kept my windows install just for games
[15:37] <Layl> also for tools that only work on windows *shakes fist in the general direction of valve's hamer*
[15:37] <GoClick> How can I get the system to upgrade packages without bumping the minor version? So I’m using Foo 2.7.3 and Foo 2.7.4 is out but so is 2.8.3 and I know the 2.8 branch is massively incompatible with other software I’m using?
[15:38] <OerHeks> kolbe, maybe you have 32 bit ubuntu in your vm , check your current kernel > uname -a
[15:38] <EriC^^> Layl: might be worth checking out the nvidia drivers if you're going to game
[15:38] <kolbe> OerHeks: uname -a shows x86_64
[15:39] <OerHeks> kolbe, oke, what repo ?
[15:39] <EriC^^> Layl: sometimes it's a hassle though and could break stuff, i tried latest ati was a pita to remove, nvidia might be easier though
[15:39] <kolbe> OerHeks: it's one that someone in my company created (i'm testing it and i found this problem)
[15:40] <OerHeks> kolbe, good test.
[15:40] <OerHeks> kolbe, they need to build the 64 bit version then
[15:40] <threecatstwodogs> how would i tell if i was running out of tcp/ip connections or file descriptors
[15:40] <kolbe> OerHeks: the 64 bit version already exists. the message given by apt-get is "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages'"
[15:41] <threecatstwodogs> I'm locking up a webserver that has almost zero load
[15:41] <kolbe> OerHeks: for some reason my 64-bit Ubuntu installation is complaining when it can't find a repository for 32-bit packages
[15:42] <aikidouke> does anyone know what group is responsible for composing daily-builds and releases for ubuntu?
[15:42] <SiegeX> Can I use both cron and anacron together? I have a task that I want to run at a specific time and it's on a 24/7 VPS
[15:43] <OerHeks> kolbe, not really an error from ubuntu's side, that repo sucks.
[15:43] <kolbe> OerHeks: that's fine. i'm asking why the OS is looking for packages for an architecture other than the one used by its kernel.
[15:44] <kolbe> OerHeks: i understand there's a problem with the repo, and i'm going to try to get it fixed, but i'm trying to get some additional information and learn a bit about Ubuntu in the meantime.
[15:46] <qiyexuejiunai> my first try
[15:46] <qiyexuejiunai> hello,anybody
[15:46] <OerHeks> kolbe, for instance, if that repo gives a list with packages:i386 and there has been a change, only with i386 packages and they build them fresh, the x86-64 part will surely find only older/depreciated/removed versions.
[15:46] <asad2005> I bought a new 4TB hard disk which i plan to use as data drive, what file system should i use and should i make single or more than one partition. I am using ubuntu 15.04 beta
[15:46] <daftykins> qiyexuejiunai: yes? ask a support question if you have one
[15:46] <kolbe> OerHeks: there are no i386 packages at all for this product, so i don't see that being a problem.
[15:46] <EriC^^> asad2005: do you plan to use it with ubuntu only or windows too?
[15:47] <qiyexuejiunai> Can I speak Chinese
[15:47] <peppelakappa> hello there, anyone using iris graphics on his ubuntu laptop?
[15:47] <EriC^^> qiyexuejiunai: /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:47] <qiyexuejiunai> ok
[15:47] <kolbe> OerHeks: i don't *care* if there are i386 packages available, because i don't want to install them on my x86_64 VM. if I don't care about the i386 packages, why does Ubuntu care about them?
[15:48] <flipapy> is this channel ok to ask about ubuntu server?
[15:48] <asad2005> EriC^^: Ubuntu only
[15:48] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server is even better
[15:48] <EriC^^> asad2005: use ext4
[15:48] <flipapy> thnks daftykins
[15:48] <peppelakappa> i'm experiencing a big, strange problem with CPU usage, and my graphics performances are really bad
[15:49] <kinslayer> I cant use a headset on my ubuntu laptop, it only wants to send sound to my external hdmi screen any suggestions
[15:49] <asad2005> EriC^^: and should i maek multi partitions
[15:49] <daftykins> peppelakappa: what version?
[15:49] <EriC^^> asad2005: up to you, theoretically, if one system gets corrupted you'd still have data
[15:49] <peppelakappa> daftykins, basically every version since 14.04
[15:49] <peppelakappa> a core is stuck at 70% usage, even when doing absolutely anything
[15:50] <daftykins> peppelakappa: including? so all kernels 3.13+ ?
[15:50] <peppelakappa> daftykins, the problem appears to be existing since 3.14 kernel
[15:50] <twokay> evenin all....got a small problem with executables being run from the shell... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10816653/ Any ideas on why even if its in my path it cant be found and is looking in an old location (I removed the package ruby and compiled my own)
[15:51] <daftykins> peppelakappa: so 3.13 is fine? :P
[15:51] <peppelakappa> daftykins, yeah
[15:51] <daftykins> so the solution sounds like to run 14.04 to me.
[15:51] <peppelakappa> i'm using a retina mbp so having latest kernel releases is a must
[15:51] <daftykins> oh a mac - ok that changes everything entirely
[15:51] <peppelakappa> *sigh*
[15:51] <daftykins> wait for 15.04 to go final then
[15:52] <EriC^^> twokay: type ls -l `which ruby`
[15:52] <yorwos> peppe , i dont know , one time i was running @folding , all my cpus at 100% , i had closed the program it didnt show in task manager but it was obviously running
[15:52] <EriC^^> twokay: maybe the symlink is broken
[15:52] <peppelakappa> this is why I asked if someone have this problem too: i'm on 15.05 daily and the problem persists :-/
[15:52] <peppelakappa> yorwos, heh, there's no process eating cpu, even perf top says nothing
[15:53] <twokay> EriC^^: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138093 Apr 13 16:01 /usr/local/bin/ruby
[15:53] <EriC^^> twokay: what happens when you type /usr/local/bin/ruby
[15:53] <twokay> it works.
[15:53] <daftykins> peppelakappa: ok well 15.04 talk is in #ubuntu+1
[15:53] <twokay> am I beig daft or is this odd?
[15:53] <OerHeks> peppelakappa, only one core, 70% ? is that bad?
[15:54] <peppelakappa> daftykins, joining, ty
[15:54] <yorwos> i mean @folding was still running but it didnt show in task manager , higher cpu usage was 3% while the xfce cpu graph plugin showed it at full 100%
[15:54] <peppelakappa> OerHeks, it's really bad considering that's a notebook after all
[15:54] <EriC^^> twokay: no, it's pretty odd
[15:54] <peppelakappa> and for example, framerate on cs:go is awful probably because of this
[15:54] <twokay> thought so...Im not a linux newbie really. Feels like it tho :)
[15:54] <EriC^^> twokay: are there any aliases? try alias
[15:55] <twokay> unless its a symlink...yeah thats it.one sec
[15:55] <twokay> EriC^^: nope no mention of it
[15:56] <twokay> EriC^^: symlink in another location onthe path pointing to the old version? a locate doesnt find it nor does a find.
[15:56] <daftykins> peppelakappa: tried a non-unity desktop?
[15:56] <EriC^^> twokay: which returns that so when you type ruby it should run it
[15:56] <peppelakappa> daftykins, running i3
[15:56] <EriC^^> unless there's an alias
[15:56] <yorwos> yesterday i was stuck at 30% also for no-reason , but i rebooted and it was fixed
[15:56] <EriC^^> dunno
[15:57] <daftykins> peppelakappa: i take it you've experimented to rule that out?
[15:57] <peppelakappa> daftykins, tried any combination: i3 w/compton and without, unity, fluxbox. It isn't related to this
[15:57] <twokay> EriC^^: yeah me too....Ill figure it out. Ive checked the obvious so Ive missed something obviously. Thanks for the help.
[15:57] <EriC^^> twokay: ah wait
[15:57] <peppelakappa> maybe a driver issue, because with nomodeset, no problem
[15:58] <twokay> EriC^^: ...waiting :)
[15:58] <daftykins> peppelakappa: ah well. i'd ask further but can't support 15.04 in here
[15:58] <EriC^^> which says it's in /usr/local/bin , but bash complains about /usr/bin
[15:58] <peppelakappa> this strange bug is the only thing preventing me from using linux on this machine... argh
[15:59] <EriC^^> twokay: are you on ubuntu?
[15:59] <EriC^^> twokay: feels like arch or something
[15:59] <twokay> EriC^^: yeah thats the odd bit... /usr/bin/ruby doesnt exist. Ubuntu 14.04
[15:59] <anmol> hiiiiiiii
[16:00] <EriC^^> twokay: type dpkg -L ruby | grep bin
[16:00] <anmol> heyyyyyyyyyyy fuck off
[16:00] <twokay> EriC^^: dpkg-query: package 'ruby' is not installed (as expect I removed the old package and compiled my own ruby)
[16:00] <EriC^^> anmol: nice
[16:01] <anmol> ??
[16:01] <anmol> ubuntu uckubuntu
[16:01] <anmol> fuckubuntu
[16:02] <peppelakappa> oh well
[16:02] <EriC^^> twokay: ok, you could probably fix it by doing sudo ln -s /usr/bin/ruby /usr/local/bin/ruby
[16:02] <daftykins> !ops | anmol
[16:02] <EriC^^> twokay: no idea why it's doing that though
[16:03] <anmol> feeling lonely
[16:03] <newbnewb> Ive installed Unbuntu 14.04 twice now....both times the software center will not work from the beginning....if I use "sudo apt-get purge software-center" I get
[16:03] <newbnewb> Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:03] <anmol> error 208
[16:03] <newbnewb> i tried remove as well and get same command
[16:03] <newbnewb> same output I mean
[16:04] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you checksum the iso?
[16:04] <daftykins> newbnewb: sounds like your installation or install media are damaged - or the hard disk you're installing to is faulty
[16:04] <genii> anmol: Still no reason to spam profanity into the support channel.
[16:04] <anmol> idk
[16:04] <anmol> ??
[16:04] <newbnewb> i dont know how to do that ericC....I am a grumpy old man who is barely keeping up and often not
[16:04] <EriC^^> newbnewb: do you still have the iso you downloaded?
[16:05] <genii> anmol: This channel is to assist Ubuntu users. If you don't have a support question about Ubuntu, or if you're not assisting a user, don't spam the channel
[16:05] <newbnewb> actually no....it was on the previous install and I foolishly didnt save it....all I have is the bootable usb...
[16:05] <newbnewb> my internet is 1mbs so it takes hours to get an iso
[16:05] <anmol> pls anyone help me its emergency!
[16:06] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok mount the bootable usb, and open a terminal
[16:06] <twokay> EriC^^: Got it....and Ive got no idea how...but I accidently closed my shell down...relogged in and it works. So just out of interest that seems like once I uninstalled the package some realitime config was left behind but what could that be? Its quite important really because we will be mass installing servers and this could cause problems.
[16:06] <newbnewb> ok....be patient with me as I am slow
[16:06] <tgm4883> anmol: what is the problem?
[16:07] <newbnewb> !EricC it's mounted and terminal open
[16:07] <anmol> after installing ubuntu my laptop is overheating even if it is idle
[16:07] <tgm4883> what laptop/
[16:07] <twokay> EriC^^: an alias would show up surely, as would a symlink or path change. Ill try to reporoduce it. Thanks for the help tho.
[16:08] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, cd to the mountpoint, it's probably in /media/<user>/<uuid>
[16:08] <newbnewb> how? i dont know even basic commands sorry
[16:08] <EriC^^> twokay: ok, no problem
[16:08] <yorwos> anmol it must be the gpu , install proprietary drivers
[16:09] <EriC^^> newbnewb: type cd /media , type ls to see the files, then cd <user> and so on
[16:09] <peppelakappa> ok this is awkward
[16:09] <daftykins> is it?
[16:09] <newbnewb> is user the entire string up to the $? or just before the :
[16:10] <daftykins> user@hostname is how the prompt appears
[16:10] <peppelakappa> fixed that bug with another google search, appears to be a well-known bug http://askubuntu.com/questions/176565/why-does-kworker-cpu-usage-get-so-high
[16:10] <EriC^^> anmol: open a terminal and type top
[16:10] <peppelakappa> now let's hope csgo runs better now
[16:11] <EriC^^> newbnewb: there shouldn't be a $? or :
[16:11] <newbnewb> EricC when I type ls it only says "toshiba"
[16:11] <daftykins> peppelakappa: i'd still prefer you held this discussion in #ubuntu+1 since your installed version is off topic here.
[16:11] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok type cd toshiba
[16:11] <newbnewb> EricC done
[16:11] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ls again
[16:12] <newbnewb> 32gb usb
[16:12] <EriC^^> newbnewb: or type cd and hit tab a couple times
[16:12] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok type cd and hit tab so it autocompletes it
[16:12] <newbnewb> cd-create-profile cd-iccdump toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba$ cd
[16:13] <EriC^^> newbnewb: usually if there's a space in a file you have to use quotes like cd "32gb usb" or escape the space with \ like cd 32gb\ usb
[16:13] <newbnewb> im lost...i have no idea what I am doing....when I put cd and tabbed that last from me is the output
[16:13] <EriC^^> newbnewb: put a space after cd then hit tab
[16:14] <newbnewb> do I need to go back or being in media still is ok?
[16:14] <EriC^^> you should be in toshiba right now
[16:14] <newbnewb> ah yes sorry
[16:15] <newbnewb> when i put space then cd then tab tab it outputs same
[16:15] <newbnewb> the cd-createprofile etc
[16:15] <EriC^^> newbnewb: put the space after cd
[16:15] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it think you want to autocomplete the cd command right now
[16:15] <EriC^^> *thinks
[16:16] <newbnewb> i got space 32GB\ USB/
[16:17] <EriC^^> if you type cd<space> and hit tab it'll look for dirs in your current directory
[16:17] <EriC^^> ok, great
[16:17] <newbnewb> this is where I am now : toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$
[16:17] <EriC^^> ok, type ls
[16:17] <newbnewb> autorun.inf casper-rw ldlinux.sys pool syslinux boot dists md5sum.txt preseed wubi.exe casper install pics README.diskdefines toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$
[16:20] <anmol> Anyone know how to install IDM on ubuntu
[16:21] <kris_pol> tried to use telnet on one of the open ports , answer was " couldn`t parse request" or connection closed by foreign host . what does it mean?
[16:22] <newbnewb> great
[16:23] <kris_pol> how to solve it?
[16:23] <genii> kris_pol: It means that port is running oms service which requires a set of interactions between it and the client ( in this case your telnet session) but it didn't receive anything it recognized as valid input
[16:24] <genii> s/oms/some
[16:24] <anmol> Does Samsung provide drivers for ubuntu?
[16:24] <Ziber> How can I add a dummy network interface
[16:24] <Ziber> ?
[16:25] <EriC^> newbnewb: still there?
[16:25] <newbnewb> yep
[16:25] <EriC^> sorry i got dc
[16:25] <newbnewb> np
[16:26] <genii> anmol: Samsung makes a lot of products. Whisch one more specifically do you have in mind?
[16:26] <newbnewb> the sfotware center seems to be troublesome according to google but no real solutions found
[16:26] <newbnewb> rest of the os seems to work
[16:26] <anmol> For laptop.
[16:27] <newbnewb> but I cant even unsintall etc....and when I try to install it "fails to parse"
[16:28] <anmol> Yippee 5 MB downloaded in 20 minutes hurrrah
[16:28] <genii> anmol: If it's a Chromebook, no. Although Ubuntu can be made to run on it.
[16:28] <anmol> geni, What are you saying?
[16:29] <kris_pol> should I search for it on another channel?
[16:29] <Ziber> I've done "ip link set name <device> dev dummy0" on two ubuntu servers, but it's not working on a third. It says it can't find the dummy0 device.
[16:30] <genii> anmol: I'm saying that if you asking about Samsung-supplied Linux drivers for their Chromebook line, they do not provide any because Google provides the entire embedded OS with all the drivers it needs for what is supposed to be delivered to the consumer.
[16:30] <anmol> why ubuntu use cpu even when it is idle when windows dont?
[16:31] <nogoodnamesleft> Does Ubuntu not have Java 8 in main repo?
[16:31] <newbnewb> can anyone else help me? the person who was helping seems to have isp problems
[16:31] <adminewb> hi all
[16:31] <GoClick> anmol: Because Windows is lying to you.
[16:31] <xangua> nogoodnamesleft: no
[16:31] <dale_> how do I get rid of the arrows slider and have a regular window slider
[16:31] <nogoodnamesleft> May I ask why Ubuntu does not have Java 8 in main repo?
[16:32] <xangua> nogoodnamesleft: licences, you can install openjdk
[16:32] <GoClick> nogoodnamesleft: Licensing
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> !latest | nogoodnamesleft here's why
[16:32] <nogoodnamesleft> Ah ok. And openjdk is version 8 compatible?
[16:33] <anmol> Goclick, but hardware dont lie. when i use ubuntu my fan runs at full speed while in windows not until i dont put a load on cpu
[16:34] <GoClick> anmol: Fan speed is controlled by OS, Ubuntu may not have drivers to throttle your fans. Although it’s entierly possible Ubuntu is running more commands. Windows doesn’t do all that much stuff out of the box in the background. Ubuntu is indexing for search and generally (I may be crucefied for saying this) actually kind of bloaty
[16:34] <GoClick> nogoodnamesleft: OpenJDK is v7
[16:35] <GoClick> nogoodnamesleft: My mistake no it’s Java 8
[16:35] <adminewb> trying here to diagnose some trouble logging in to unity desktop on trusty; rather than just log in to a certain account's desktop (while other accounts are fine), it just blacks the screen for a moment and repaints the same login greeter; where do I find the pertinent log files? /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesn't appear to be the one
[16:35] <anmol> Goclick. i think fan speed is controlled by BIOS and a OS has nothing to do with it
[16:36] <adminewb> I should mention that login to the troubled account on a tty works fine
[16:36] <nogoodnamesleft> I found pakcage "openjdk-8-jre" in Universe
[16:36] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[16:36] <ponyrider> OerHeks: yep thats the one
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> anmol is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[16:37] <Johnny_Linux> Terabytes are termite-like desert insects
[16:37] <Johnny_Linux> wrong room
[16:38] <nogoodnamesleft> Thanks guys. Openjdk-8-jre seems to have fixed the problem with Jython.
[16:38] <OerHeks> adminewb, login with tty2 ( ctrl alt F2) and see the permissions of ~/.Xauthority , is it owned by root or the $USER ?
[16:39] <GoClick> anmol: perhaps, but in my experience motherboards often run the fans at full speed unless the OS tells them to run it slower. A good sign one way or another is what does the fan do durring boot. Remember every hardware manufacturer is in bed with Microsoft so Windows can do a lot of things out of the box
[16:39] <adminewb> OerHeks, it's owned by root:root
[16:39] <OerHeks> adminewb, that is the problem, it should be owned by the user.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Windows is the Main Stream, hence: MS Windows
[16:39] <adminewb> this may have come about during an fsck cleanup after a syscrash
[16:40] <anmol> blahh blahh blahhh
[16:40] <adminewb> OerHeks much obliged
[16:40] <OerHeks> * known issue, sometimes this is done by starting the wm with startx, depreciated
[16:40] <OerHeks> adminewb, iirc you can remove the file, it will be recreated next login ?
[16:40] <adminewb> OerHeks got it, will try that
[16:49] <ubuntuterrorist> hello
[16:50] <_Raiz> ubuntuterrorist, Hey.
[16:51] <ubuntuterrorist> I want to install Ubuntu in /dev/sda2, between (primary) sda1 and sda3 (Windows) but installed is trying to resize partitions
[16:51] <r_rios> The Ubuntu build of Chromium seems to be segfaulting
[16:51] <ubuntuterrorist> installer
[16:52] <r_rios> When opening gmail.com
[16:52] <_Raiz> ubuntuterrorist, resizing the partitions to what?
[16:53] <ubuntuterrorist> _Raiz: it wants to resize sda3 (NTFS) to allocate space for UBuntu
[16:53] <_Raiz> ubuntuterrorist, Then you need more space for ubuntu.
[16:53] <ubuntuterrorist> _Raiz: I tried to format sda2 with EXT4
[16:53] <georgelappies> ubuntuterrorist, try using manual partitioning
[16:53] <ubuntuterrorist> _Raiz: Ubuntu can be install in sda2, it has plenty of space
[16:53] <georgelappies> yeah what _Raiz said
[16:53] <ubuntuterrorist> georgelappies: I tried
[16:54] <_Raiz> ubuntuterrorist, What's the size of /dev/sda2
[16:54] <ubuntuterrorist> Select sda2, click on Change...
[16:54] <ubuntuterrorist> more than 100gb
[16:54] <ubuntuterrorist> brb
[16:57] <anmol> Are you here?
[16:58] <anmol> Are you here photographer?
[16:59] <ubuntuterrorist> _Rarity georgelappies: sda2 has almost 200gb
[16:59] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: make sure you are only making a root partition. ie "/" -ONLY and not also making a /boot /opt etc etc.
[16:59] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: and format it with ext4?
[17:00] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: do I select it / as mountpoint?
[17:00] <ponyrider> yes ext4 is great
[17:01] <ubuntuterrorist> format ext4 and select /
[17:01] <anmol> Is there any channel for making friends?
[17:01] <psf_> Hi, can you please recommend any good programming irc rooms?
[17:01] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: yes make that the only mountpoint. dont make a /boot
[17:01] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: you can make a /home if you like
[17:02] <tgm4883> anmol: psf_ non support requests go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:02] <psf_> ok, i got there, thank you
[17:05] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: sda2 ext4 / is ready. is it safe to click install now?
[17:06] <ubuntuterrorist> and how would I create /home in sda2 along with /
[17:06] <EriC^^> ubuntuterrorist: you want a separate home partition?
[17:06] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[17:06] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: selecting "/" mountpoint makes the whole installation on one partition. ie /dev/sda2
[17:07] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: if you want a /home you can add that as another mountpoint
[17:08] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: so your partitons will be sda2 > / ... sda3 > /home ...
[17:08] <ubuntuterrorist> sda3 is used by windows
[17:08] <ubuntuterrorist> sda4 could be /home
[17:08] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: it will be renamed. sdaX ...
[17:08] <ubuntuterrorist> but for that sda3 would be resized
[17:08] <ubuntuterrorist> hum
[17:09] <ubuntuterrorist> I will install everything in sda2
[17:09] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: no it wont be resized. just add the mountpoints on sda2. everything is automatics. sda3 (windows) wont be touched
[17:10] <ubuntuterrorist> I don't know
[17:16] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: the installer is warning about missing swap partition
[17:18] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: ubuntu installer does not offer the option to resize the partition
[17:19] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: dont resize the partition
[17:19] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: you can make an option swap partition of say.. 1gb. i am not sure if its necessary anymore...
[17:19] <thiebaude> ^
[17:19] <ubuntuterrorist> 4GB of RAM
[17:20] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: the warning says installation will have problems without swap
[17:20] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: yeah if you make a swap, and you have a modern computer, make it <1GB
[17:21] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: you prob dont need one though.
[17:21] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: I can't see how I can create /home and swap
[17:23] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: you dont HAVE to do it. if you want a /home partiton add that as a mountpoint.
[17:24] <ubuntuterrorist> I don't know how to do it
[17:24] <ubuntuterrorist> I chose to install ubuntu alongside windows
[17:26] <Mitt> ubuntuterrorist do you really need to have /home?
[17:26] <ubuntuterrorist> maybe not but I do need a swap
[17:26] <ubuntuterrorist> I can't choose the size and mountpoint for it
[17:26] <Mitt> ubuntuterrorist installer creates swap automatically
[17:27] <Mitt> you can actually resize
[17:27] <Mitt> pretty easy though
[17:27] <Pinkamen1_D> Unity crashed somehow but I managed to open a terminal and run it again without restarting
[17:27] <Pinkamen1_D> Can I somehow send this process to the background ?
[17:28] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D what process?
[17:28] <ubuntuterrorist> Mitt: it doesn't
[17:29] <Mitt> ubuntuterrorist you will see after first reboot
[17:29] <ubuntuterrorist> Mitt: the warning doesn't say it will create swap
[17:29] <tgm4883> Mitt: it shouldn't be warning him about not having swap
[17:29] <ubuntuterrorist> it asks me to create swap
[17:29] <ubuntuterrorist> and I can't
[17:30] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: did you go into the manual partitioning thing?
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> no
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> I chose install ubuntu alongside windows
[17:30] <Pinkamen1_D> unity
[17:30] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: were you in there earlier?
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> no
[17:30] <Pinkamen1_D> as in, I just typed the word unity
[17:30] <Mitt> ubuntuterrorist install without, than resize windowz partition for some swap
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> Mitt: installer as for root partition
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> asks
[17:31] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: it shouldn't
[17:31] <ioria> ubuntuterrorist, you can create a swap file after
[17:31] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D so unity is running what do you need else?
[17:31] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: you could just do manual partitioning. Should be easy enough
[17:31] <ubuntuterrorist> maybe
[17:31] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: how many disks do you have
[17:32] <Pinkamen1_D> Well, not so much as an emergency but more of a curiousity question, supposing I wanted to close the gnome terminal window but send unity to the background
[17:32] <tiyteeze> hey, it made a 404 error every time to install xubuntu-dektop on my nexus 7 (ubuntu 12.10) can someone help me?
[17:32] <Pinkamen1_D> how to do that?
[17:32] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D closing the terminal will cause the ending of the process since it's running from terminal
[17:32] <Pinkamen1_D> I cant use the usual ALT+f2 trick
[17:33] <Mitt> you better reboot
[17:33] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: I only have one
[17:33] <Pinkamen1_D> lol, wer working with linux here, we don't have to resort to that. =D
[17:33] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: then it should be easy enough to just partition some space out and set up the partitions
[17:34] <ubuntuterrorist> I get the same results by selecting "something else"
[17:34] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ok, but did you set up the parititons when selecting that?
[17:34] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D lol but then don't close the terminal
[17:35] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: I can only select sda2, choose filesystem type and mount point
[17:35] <ubuntuterrorist> I cannot resize anything
[17:35] <ubuntuterrorist> the only solution is to ignore the swap warning
[17:35] <Pinkamen1_D> Sure, its unusual, but I KNOW someone knows a way to launch a process without requiring that the actual graphical window stay open. For example, whatever process is called when you press alt+f2
[17:35] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: what is sda2?
[17:35] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: empty partition
[17:36] <ubuntuterrorist> sda1 windows, sda3 windows
[17:36] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D app launcher
[17:36] <ubuntuterrorist> sda2 should be ubuntu
[17:36] <Pinkamen1_D> what is that binary called?
[17:36] <Mitt> it's on keyboard shortcuts
[17:37] <Pinkamen1_D> But I can not use unity things before launching unity.
[17:37] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: I might have to boot the iso in a VM to check this. Shouldn't sda2 actually be nothing right now since we haven't installed anything yet?
[17:37] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D look for words with "launcher"
[17:37] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: I believe it should just be labeled free space
[17:38] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: sda2 is empty, it "should be ubuntu" after I install it there
[17:38] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: Can you delete sda2
[17:38] <ben__> hi
[17:39] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: no it shows free space
[17:39] <ubuntuterrorist> now
[17:39] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: perfect
[17:40] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: how big of a swap partition do you want?
[17:40] <ubuntuterrorist> now what
[17:40] <ubuntuterrorist> that depends if I'm going to hibernate
[17:41] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: well I can't answer that for you...
[17:41] <ubuntuterrorist> I'm thinking
[17:42] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: swap can't be encrypted, so no
[17:42] <ubuntuterrorist> 1gb should be enough
[17:43] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ok, how large is the free space
[17:43] <ubuntuterrorist> almost 200gb
[17:43] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ok, so make a new partition on the free space that is 1GB in size and mark it as SWAP
[17:44] <sh4dow> hi
[17:44] <pontolino> hi
[17:45] <sh4dow> hi
[17:45] <shazzr> pontolino: hi there
[17:45] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: ok now for boot?
[17:45] <ubuntuterrorist> 100MB?
[17:46] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: do you want to make a bunch of separate partitions?
[17:46] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: or you could just let everything be on the same partition
[17:46] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: the default partitioner puts everything on one
[17:46] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: swap, boot, root, home
[17:47] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ok, so a 100MB /boot should be fine
[17:47] * tgm4883 crosses fingers that this is all on an extended partition
[17:47] <ubuntuterrorist> for root is more tricky
[17:47] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: it is
[17:47] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: good
[17:47] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: why is root more tricky
[17:48] <ubuntuterrorist> depends of what I'm going to install
[17:48] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: make it like 30GB
[17:48] <ubuntuterrorist> ok
[17:48] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: you could do less if you want, but that's a pretty safe amount
[17:49] <ubuntuterrorist> 20GB should be enough
[17:50] <tgm4883> ok
[17:50] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: ext2 or ext4 for boot?
[17:50] <mcphail> ubuntuterrorist: Out of interest, can I ask why you're splitting the install over different partitions? It tends to cause headaches for little benefit
[17:51] <mcphail> "because I can" would be a perfectly reasonable response :)
[17:51] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ext4
[17:51] <ubuntuterrorist> mcphail: because I want
[17:51] <mcphail> ubuntuterrorist: fair enough
[17:52] <CJKay> Hi all, I'm running a server trying to force TLS on my OpenLDAP configuration, but I'm getting this: ldap_start_tls: Protocol error (2)
[17:52] <CJKay> additional info: unsupported extended operation
[17:53] <ubuntuterrorist> a quick search shows that ext4 is faster than ext2 but it has journaling
[17:53] <CJKay> According to all sources it definitely should be supported so I could do with some help
[17:53] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: put what you want. I'm just saying that the default ubuntu install puts it all on one partition which uses ext4
[17:54] <ubuntuterrorist> ok
[17:57] <baxx> I'm having trouble with LaTex as the Ubuntu Repos are a bit behind the official sites. I'm wondering about how I would go about uninstalling and reinstalling tex, and what I should be aware of htere.
[17:58] <tgm4883> baxx: uninstalling and reinstalling the same version?
[17:58] <tgm4883> baxx: that would be "apt-get install --reinstall tex"
[17:58] <baxx> tgm4883: No - I have pdflatex 2.1, I think what I need is 3.0
[17:59] <baxx> reinstalling the same version would leave me in the same position i think
[17:59] <tgm4883> baxx: have you found that 3.0 is available somewhere?
[17:59] <baxx> I think that 3.0 is available from the Tug site
[17:59] <Mitt> baxx if the needed version is not available in the repos, you better compile it
[18:00] <baxx> tgm4883: to use the drawing here http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/159127/drawing-simple-graph-pattern-with-tikz/159162#159162
[18:00] <baxx> it needs a later version that the Ubuntu repo gives
[18:00] <baxx> Mitt: do you mean downloading it from the Tug site?
[18:00] <Mitt> baxx sure
[18:00] <baxx> that would be uninstalling the one I have on my system first no?
[18:01] <baxx> Mitt: ^
[18:01] <Eightynine> Hi. How can I make application windows look modern in LXDE on Ubuntu? Also how can I change LXDE start menu icon to look like Windows 8.1?
[18:01] <Mitt> baxx it will
[18:01] <Mitt> baxx it will upgrade your version
[18:01] <Yaki> hi Eightynine
[18:01] <baxx> Mitt: well thats kind of my query I guess, I think this post explains my point better : http://askubuntu.com/questions/608845/uninstall-latex-and-reinstall-from-official-site
[18:02] <Mitt> baxx but keep the downloaded folderso you can remove it easily
[18:03] <baxx> Mitt: I'm not following - downloading the version from Tug site will upgrade my version, so that I don't have to delete what I have?
[18:03] <tgm4883> baxx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/486170/upgrade-from-tex-live-from-2013-to-2014-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:03] <baxx> tgm4883: thanks for that, I'll have a look now
[18:03] <ioria> Eightynine, i remember an LXMenuEditor, but no more
[18:03] <CJKay> Hi all, I'm running a server trying to force TLS on my OpenLDAP configuration, but I'm getting this: ldap_start_tls: Protocol error (2); additional info: unsupported extended operation
[18:03] <CJKay> According to all sources it definitely should be supported (and it really is not up to scratch if it isn't) so I could do with some help
[18:03] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[18:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am installing x86 ubuntu on virtualbox
[18:04] <Mitt> baxx no, of course no
[18:04] <PlotCitizen> Hey, I've run two separate files that contain identical data (I've used hexdump to verify there's not more or less) through a hash and it's a different one for each file, why is that?
[18:05] <baxx> Mitt: that wasn't obvious to me from what you said
[18:05] <Eightynine> How to completely remove MATE? I turned my Ubuntu to Ubuntu MATE but this DE is heavy and menu lags.
[18:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> after I start the installer, it stays on the splash screen for a sec or 2 then the screen turns plack and says tsc: Fast TSC calibration faled
[18:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> *black
[18:06] <Mitt> Eightynine install synaptic, search for mate, remove all its components and install gtkorphan to clean unnecessary libs
[18:07] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, virtual box ?
[18:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea
[18:09] <Eightynine> By the way why aptitude and Synaptic has been removed from Ubuntu by developers?
[18:10] <CJKay> "User-friendliness"
[18:10] <CJKay> aka "ask the marketing guy"
[18:10] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, can you access grub ?
[18:10] <Mitt> Eightynine aptitude is removed? synaptic does not follow their view on computing, same they hiding the terminal on unity
[18:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> I forgot what is the button to do it?
[18:11] <Eightynine> It would be better if they made a good package manager because dpkg and Gdebi are crap and can't resolve dependancies good.
[18:11] <tgm4883> CJKay: to be fair, it's not like they just removed them. They have the software center now
[18:11] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, shift or canc
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine you mean, removed from the iso? to keep the iso small enough
[18:11] <tgm4883> Eightynine: use the software center
[18:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> btw, this is on a installer cd
[18:12] <rektide> is there a program i can execute from a terminal to get Passwords & Keys ?
[18:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[18:12] <baxx> tgm4883: thanks for the link, that post doesn't mention anything abount uninstalling the previous version though, I'm guessing that this is something that I should do. ALso, what about other packages that have been installed via Ubuntus package manager such as LuaLatex and stuff?
[18:12] <CJKay> tgm4883: It doesn't really suffice IMO
[18:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> I got to the menu
[18:12] <CJKay> Still, at least it's still in the repos
[18:12] <tgm4883> CJKay: is there a reason behind that statement?
[18:12] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, try editing the grub menu with clocksource=tsc before quite slpash
[18:12] <Eightynine> It lacks some software. I could install Virtualbox, Skype and TeamViewer in Linux Mint using Software Center but there's no TeamViewer in Software Center in Ubuntu.
[18:12] <CJKay> tgm4883: You can't copy and paste instructions in the software centre and have magical things happen
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> it says try Ubuntu. Install Ubuntu, Check disc, test memory, boot from firs hdd
[18:13] <tgm4883> CJKay: you can copy and paste instructions in synaptic?
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> there if more options
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> F
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> F6
[18:13] <CJKay> tgm4883: It wasn't a literal statement
[18:13] <tgm4883> Eightynine: that has to do with repos, not the particular interface
[18:13] <daddy> Hi everybody
[18:13] <tgm4883> CJKay: strawman argument
[18:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> so, ioria, do I remove quiet splash?
[18:14] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, no ...
[18:14] <CJKay> tgm4883: I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment so I can't provide examples for either argument
[18:14] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, add clocksource=tsc
[18:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> its just 1 long line of text
[18:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[18:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> before the -- ?
[18:15] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, quit splash
[18:15] <MDTech-us_MAN> what you mean
[18:16] <tgm4883> CJKay: well it's good that you're on here telling everyone how software center doesn't meet your needs with all these facts to back up your statements ;)
[18:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> sorry for slight noobness. I didn't mess around in grub for some time
[18:16] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, you just have to add that parameter
[18:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[18:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> ahh
[18:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> better
[18:19] <manh> hi
[18:19] <manh> how can i get the list of room on Smuxi?
[18:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> I had to remove quiet splash for some arbitrary reason
[18:20] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, you can remove spash and add text if you wanna a text strap
[18:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> it is starting...
[18:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> i think....
[18:20] <baxx> tgm4883: not sure if you saw my last msg re the removal of previous packages, managing packages that I have installed via offical repos. The thread you linked doesn't say anything about the uninstallation of things, just about adding the 2014 package, cheers
[18:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> hmm
[18:21] <PlotCitizen> Hey, I've run two separate files that contain identical data (I've used hexdump to verify there's not more or less) through a hash and it's a different one for each file, why is that?
[18:22] <tgm4883> baxx: idk. I would guess that removing the other packages should be fine
[18:22] <PCatinean> how does one reload the console?
[18:22] <ubuntuterrorist> blank screen
[18:22] <SchrodingersScat> PCatinean: reset?
[18:22] <PCatinean> when it's broken, a.k.a you cannot see what you are typing any more
[18:22] <PCatinean> thank you!
[18:22] <PCatinean> that was it
[18:22] <baxx> tgm4883: cheers, but would you remove ALL tex packages and reinstall them all? Things such as LuaLatex and others that I've downloaded
[18:23] <SchrodingersScat> PCatinean: welcome, happens to me all the time :)
[18:23] <Eightynine> How can I edit image to cut something from it?
[18:23] <ioria> ubuntuterrorist, no space for grub, maybe
[18:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> it seems stuck on hid-generic 0003:80EE:0021.0001: input,hidraw0: UUSB HID v1.10 Mouse [VirtualBox USB Tablet] on usb-0000:00:06.0-1/input0
[18:23] <PCatinean> SchrodingersScat, I swar I tried, reload, reboot, remake, restart, re...whatever
[18:23] <PCatinean> It was killing me...
[18:23] <PCatinean> swear*
[18:23] <ubuntuterrorist> ioria: no, grub is there. ubuntu booted but screen was blank
[18:23] <ioria> ubuntuterrorist, nomodeset
[18:23] <ubuntuterrorist> ok
[18:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea....
[18:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> it sure is stuck
[18:25] <adac> Guys I have really a lot of trouble with my lenovo T430s and the docking station and the moniotrs that hang on the dockingstation. MOst of the time my pc freezes when I unplug and plug it in again. Also on startup it cannot detect the monitor and all becomes very slow. Then I either have to shut it down by force or sometimes after 5 minutes it is able to detect the monitor
[18:25] <adac> really I cannot work like this
[18:25] <adac> I'm out of ideas
[18:27] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, what you have for mouse ?
[18:27] <hkrrsx> morning
[18:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> whatever Virtualbox says
[18:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> the host is Windows witha normal usb mouse
[18:28] <ubuntuterrorist> No UMS support in radeon module
[18:28] <tgm4883> baxx: no, just remove the texlive stuff
[18:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> ioria, ^
[18:28] <ubuntuterrorist> wtf
[18:29] <ubuntuterrorist> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1407505
[18:29] <Combatjuan> Hello. I have ~200 servers running Ubuntu 14.04. Of them ~50% have pid_max set to 32768, ~50% to 49152, but the newest two have it set to 147456. I can't figure out what is setting them that way. It's not in sysctl.conf. syslog sets it to that value on boot. Why? Where? How?
[18:31] <Combatjuan> The internet seems to think that pid_max is set by /etc/sysctl.conf but it's not being set there. And it looks like threads.h controls the default value but I don't see how that could be getting the value 147456. I feel like I've googled to the end of the internet. So here I am. any ideas?
[18:32] <hkrrsx> Combatjuan: Check this out .... http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-increase-pid-limits.html
[18:32] <Combatjuan> hkrrsx: Yes. That shows how to set it but not where the default would be coming from.
[18:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> maybe it is somehow calculated on install
[18:33] <genii> Combatjuan: Check /etc/security/limits.conf
[18:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> or on boot
[18:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> or that
[18:33] <Combatjuan> I think that's likely. And given that the two new servers run V3 intel server processors, it seems likely it somehow comes from there. But I can't find where it's even saved on disk.
[18:35] <MDTech-us_MAN> check genii's suggestion
[18:35] <Combatjuan> genii, nothing in there. More generally, the following have no results: grep 147456 -R /etc; grep pid_max -R /etc -i;
[18:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> then it may be calculated on boot
[18:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> which is smarted than only doing it on install
[18:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> if it is done on install, then there may be problems if the hardware was upgraded and it did not change it
[18:36] <Combatjuan> Very true. So I guess I can force it to some value <= 65536 in sysctl.conf.
[18:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> but why would you need it to be the same in the first place?
[18:37] <genii> Combatjuan: Yeah you could use kernel.pid_max value in there
[18:37] <genii> Perhaps they are running different kernels than the others
[18:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> if it is calculated by the system, then there must be some reason they are different
[18:38] <_Trullo> when is linux 4 beeing released?
[18:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> check the kernels are the same, like genii said
[18:38] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN, you can try with others parameters after clocksource, - acpi_pm, or hpet
[18:38] <genii> MDTech-us_MAN: Yes, that's why I'm wondering about kernel versions. Might be 32vs 64 bit kernel thing, or later kernel might have higher default
[18:39] <genii> _Trullo: You could ask in ##linux
[18:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea, exactly my point, genii
[18:39] <EriC^^> cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
[18:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> ioria, i'll give it a try
[18:40] <EriC^^> it's in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libprocps.so.3.0.0
[18:41] <genii> So libprocps3 package
[18:42] <Combatjuan> genii - They are running the same kernels (well, at least most of them are).
[18:43] <genii> Combatjuan: Operative word here might be "most"
[18:43] <Combatjuan> Nah. My sample size on this is large enough that I'm certain those are the only machines that have the 147456 value. And they've had it on their last 3 kernel versions. None of the others have on the same kernel versions.
[18:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> well, if there are 2 different servers with the same kernel but different pidmax....
[18:44] <Combatjuan> MDTech-us_MAN: That is the case.
[18:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> so, my guess is it is calculated somewhere, somehow
[18:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> possibly according to the specs
[18:45] <Combatjuan> EriC^^: I think you may have been talking to me. pid_max is 147456 (as given by /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max) on 2 servers and something different on a hundred others.
[18:48] <genii> Thonly other limiting factor for pid I can think of would be the limit of subdirectories allowed on a partuclar filesystem since /proc<Pdid#> has to be created for each one
[18:48] <sergio_> hello
[18:49] <genii> meh typos
[18:50] <Combatjuan> genii: That's actually an interesting theory.... Well, they're all ext4, but it does just so happen that the two that have 147456 are also the only two that have SSDs (which may have changed some part of the filesystem setup during the install?)
[18:50] <Guest52849> how do Isolve a "failed to fetch" error on ubuntu update
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> Guest52849 if it's a ppa, rmeove it
[18:50] <izimh> hello
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> remove*
[18:50] <Guest52849> how to solve the #failed to fetch" error on ubuntu update
[18:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> Combatjuan, well, that does affect the specs in a good way, so if it is calculated by specs, then there it is
[18:53] <jmadero> is there a way to integrate google voice (for text messaging) into pidgin
[18:54] <Combatjuan> MDTech-us_MAN, genii: Ok. I'll go with that as an explanation. Thank you both.
[18:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> np
[18:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> you should be able to change it if you desperatly need to
[18:55] <ronh> "Install ubuntu alongside windows" <- if I select that will I be asked to what disk and partition will ubuntu be installed?
[18:55] <EriC^^> ronh: i dont think so
[18:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> no
[18:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> it may let you chose which disk though
[18:56] <ronh> how does it decide, then?
[18:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> it also asks the size
[18:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> the size of the partition
[18:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> well, what else whould you want to give it?
[18:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> its just a more user friendly way of saying "Install Ubuntu on another partition on the drive that Windows is installed to"
[18:58] <ronh> I have 250GB ssd and I left 50GB for ubuntu.. along side some data disks. not sure if I should trust ubuntu installation to get it right. will it at least ask for confirmation? how smart does it try to be
[18:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> ronh: ^
[18:58] <OerHeks> It will give a confirmation.
[18:58] <EriC^^> ronh: partition yourself, why find out
[18:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea
[18:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> it gives confirmation
[18:59] <EriC^^> click on Something else
[18:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> or if you want to feel smart click something else
[18:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> just dont forget to add swap and assign the root drive
[18:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> partition i mean
[18:59] <ronh> do I need swap? I wasn't counting for it.
[19:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> ...
[19:00] <ronh> 16 GB of ram
[19:00] <ioria> wow
[19:00] <EriC^^> ronh: only if you want hibernation
[19:00] <ronh> standard would be swap = ram * 2, yes? that is a lot of SSD space
[19:00] <bekks> ronh: You need swap == ram if you plan to use hibernation.
[19:00] <EriC^^> ronh: yes, in 1994 or something
[19:00] <bekks> ronh: That standard was outdated 15 years ago :)
[19:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291378/do-we-still-need-swap-partitions-on-desktop
[19:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> so, if you do not want to hibernate, it will be fine to have like 4-8GB
[19:02] <EriC^^> he will probably never use that
[19:02] <dasdre> my audio is dead, no devices detected, alsamixer cannot open mixer: No such file or directory, and /dev/sndstat does not exist. what do?
[19:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> depends on what he does
[19:02] <EriC^^> dasdre: try rebooting
[19:03] <dasdre> It worked earlier, but then i tried to install gnome (botched it, broken packages and shit)
[19:03] <dasdre> i should probably ppa-purge
[19:03] <MDTech-us_MAN> I actually never had an SSD in any of my computers only 1+TB HDDs, so I wouldn't know
[19:04] <tgm4883> bekks: isn't it RAM+1MB? I thought there was a tiny bit of overhead
[19:04] <ronh> if I need to hibernate would swap need to equal ram in size?
[19:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> at least
[19:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> there is always sleep though....
[19:04] <bekks> ronh: Yes.
[19:04] <bekks> ronh: you'll need a small overhead too, like 100M.
[19:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> I tried hibernating on my laptop, no go
[19:05] <dasdre> how do i unfuck my packages
[19:05] <dasdre> i tried to install gnome but there shit with broken packages
[19:05] <dasdre> do i ppa-purge and try again
[19:05] <EriC^^> dasdre: did you install from a ppa?
[19:05] <dasdre> yeah
[19:06] <dasdre> the gnome3 ppa
[19:06] <EriC^^> try to ppa-purge
[19:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> it actually was disabled by default, but after I enabled it and tried it, it got all buggy after hibernation
[19:06] <dasdre> i'm doing that atm
[19:08] <dasdre> can i remove these: http://pastebin.com/wRnZVCev
[19:09] <ayy> ayy lmao
ayy lmao
[19:10] <dasdre> just do /me lmao
[19:10] <ayy> you cant make me
[19:10] * bekks can
[19:11] <ayy> i have ubuntu fgt
[19:11] <ayy> good luck
[19:12] <dasdre> 2/3 gnome ppas
[19:13] <bleg> Hi, is it okay to ask Clonezilla backup questions here? I'm trying to clone a partition to local disk. The first warning message it gives me says it will overwrite partition sdb2, which is fine. The 2nd warning message it gives me says it will overwrite sdb, which is NOT fine.
[19:13] <dasdre> 3/3
[19:13] <dasdre> gtgt
[19:13] <dasdre> *gtg
[19:13] <bazhang> bleg, they have a channel here on freenode, you realize
[19:14] <bleg> Oh, whoops. Thanks
[19:14] <bazhang> #clonezilla bleg
[19:14] <bazhang> np
[19:17] <TimeVirus> hello I'm having a heck of a time getting this installed onto this Compaq Presario CQ56 - I have freed up 1 of the primary partitions to get it on but I would also like to use LVM for the new Ubuntu install
[19:17] <TimeVirus> supyp?
[19:17] <TimeVirus> the LVM option is grayed out
[19:18] <TimeVirus> why would it not be available
[19:18] <TimeVirus> I need 2 free partitions?
[19:20] <ioria> TimeVirus, you got Windows 8 ?
[19:20] <gunnar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall
[19:20] <TimeVirus> no sir not and hopefully never
[19:21] <ioria> :-P
[19:21] <ioria> TimeVirus, other OS ?
[19:21] <TimeVirus> win 7 in there now
[19:21] <TimeVirus> this isnt going to be my puter
[19:21] <TimeVirus> it belongs to a friend of mine I'm trying to get him on an Ubuntu
[19:22] <TimeVirus> I'm pretty sure thats going to be rough as it can get
[19:22] <TimeVirus> so I dont want to wipe out win 7 just yet
[19:22] <TimeVirus> for him
[19:22] <ioria> TimeVirus, uefi motherboard ?
[19:22] <gunnar> TimeVirus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#LVM_Installation_Guides
[19:23] <TimeVirus> not sure about mom board
[19:23] <gunnar> Ok then
[19:24] <gunnar> TimeVirus: It seems there are some limitations on when you can use LVM.
[19:24] <TimeVirus> I've got Xubuntu Live in the laptop now how would I find out what mobo hes got without inxi?
[19:24] <TimeVirus> really?
[19:24] <TimeVirus> wow
[19:25] <TimeVirus> I mean LVM and Ubuntu need 2 primary partitions the?
[19:25] <gunnar> TimeVirus: by that I just mean, for example when doing dual boot LVM can not be used and so on.
[19:25] <TimeVirus> then*
[19:25] <TimeVirus> oh I see
[19:25] <TimeVirus> ok
[19:25] <TimeVirus> bah
[19:25] <ofoto> i was using kwin over xfce , i uninstalled amd proprietary but now im getting error on the window effects because they require OpenGL and choosing any of them doesnt work
[19:26] <ioria> TimeVirus, try this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/470632/install-lvm-dual-boot-with-windows
[19:26] <TimeVirus> then I have to have 2 primary partitions, 1 for Ubuntu and 1 for swap, yes?
[19:26] <gunnar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/470632/install-lvm-dual-boot-with-windows
[19:26] <TimeVirus> I was hoping to use LVM with 1 partiton
[19:26] <TimeVirus> aha
[19:26] <gunnar> sorry.
[19:26] <gunnar> Checking ioria's link
[19:27] <TimeVirus> also remember reading somewhere that Linux doesnt even need 1 primary partition
[19:27] <TimeVirus> at least for Ubuntu is that untrue?
[19:27] <TimeVirus> must be
[19:27] <gunnar> OK I think this will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[19:28] <gunnar> absorb the wisdom.
[19:28] <TimeVirus> lol
[19:28] <gunnar> ioira: :P
[19:29] <TimeVirus> getting this guy on Linux is ROUGH!
[19:29] <ioria> hi gunnar how are you doing ?
[19:29] <gunnar> Super, you?
[19:29] <yorwos> should i try to purge kde-workspace and reinstall it or does it look like something is weird with my system ? i also seem to have lots of xorg.conf files but they all look like backups , either.original-3 or fglrx-3
[19:29] <ioria> gunnar so and so , thanx for asking
[19:30] <gunnar> ioria: anythin for you :D
[19:30] <magicuk> /msg NickServ SETPASS magicuk eiafemmbkmym st2011
[19:30] <magicuk> ffs
[19:30] <magicuk> oops
[19:30] <gunnar> HAHAH!
[19:30] <magicuk> lmao
[19:30] <magicuk> i hate nickserv
[19:30] <magicuk> :)
[19:31] <TimeVirus> lol
[19:31] <yorwos> if i "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to reconfigure it it says there is no such file
[19:31] <magicuk> Hey guys long time no speak , yes i just fucked up oh well
[19:31] <Ben64> yorwos: it doesn't exist by default, and thats not how to reconfigure it
[19:31] <magicuk> :)
[19:31] <Ben64> magicuk: watch the language
[19:32] <genii> yorwos: No xorg.conf is created ny default any longer.
[19:32] <genii> ny/by
[19:32] <magicuk> brbg
[19:32] <magicuk> brb
[19:32] <TimeVirus> so just to clear this up - Ubuntu and Swap each need ot have a primary partition to be installed - is that right? Dual boot included ofc
[19:32] <Ben64> TimeVirus: no
[19:32] <yorwos> is there a reason i shouold create one ?
[19:32] <k1l> TimeVirus: make an extended partition and put all ubuntu partitions in there
[19:32] <TimeVirus> ok
[19:33] <yorwos> my problem is kwin cant use opengl after uninstalling amd proprie
[19:33] <TimeVirus> cool then
[19:33] <TimeVirus> thanks
[19:33] <k1l> so the extended counts as one primary then
[19:33] <TimeVirus> right got it thanks
[19:33] <RudyValencia-> Hi, so I'm trying to set up an email server for my organization, is there a good guide on how to set up a proper, secure email server?
[19:34] <ioria> RudyValencia-, sure ... give me a sec
[19:34] <RudyValencia> thanks
[19:35] <zerobyte> RudyValencia: i like this one -> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mail_Server_setup
[19:35] <AloeVera> Hello!
[19:36] <RudyValencia> does it provide secure (TLS-encrypted) access?
[19:36] <zerobyte> yes
[19:36] <yorwos> does this opengl thing have to do with xorg.conf maybe or should i look other solutions ?
[19:36] <magicuk> finaly :)
[19:36] <magicuk> sorry about that lol
[19:36] <zerobyte> lol
[19:36] <genii> yorwos: Did you purge the proprietary ones as described here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx
[19:36] <AloeVera> yorwos: didnt see your issue, but openGL problems are usually related to your drivers
[19:37] <ioria> RudyValencia-, in two words, you have to install postfix and dovecot, plus amavis clamav and if you want virtual user a database managment...
[19:38] <ioria> RudyValencia, sure if you configure postfix and dovecot
[19:38] <yorwos> i used http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers the commands seem to be the same
[19:38] <RudyValencia> ah
[19:38] <RudyValencia> OK I'll try again :)
[19:39] <ioria> RudyValencia, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mail_Server_setup
[19:39] <gunnar> ioria: One quick question, just for kicks I want to set up my own mail server, I'm thinking about forwarding all my gmal stuff there. What do you think about anubis and an intermediary?
[19:39] <gunnar> anubis as an intermediary*
[19:39] <stacks88> RudyValencia google iredmail
[19:39] <ioria> RudyValencia, a smart host is another thing...
[19:39] <stacks88> its a good solution rolled into one
[19:40] <yorwos> ok i have to reboot brb
[19:40] <stacks88> but you may want to create a guest linux vm for it and run it on there
[19:40] <stacks88> i too was needign a mail solution
[19:40] <ioria> RudyValencia, i thought it was for internal usage
[19:40] <stacks88> and im telling you iredmail was a savior
[19:40] <ioria> RudyValencia, but it can be done
[19:40] <stacks88> It uses dovecot, postfix and all that
[19:40] <RudyValencia> all it will be is email for a handful of domains
[19:41] <RudyValencia> and with aliases
[19:41] <RudyValencia> I'll try out iredmail :)
[19:41] <ioria> RudyValencia, virtual users you eman ?
[19:41] <gunnar> ioria: do you know anything at all about anubisÐ
[19:41] <RudyValencia> gunnar: no
[19:41] <RudyValencia> oops, sorry
[19:42] <ioria> gunnar ... not at the moment , sorry :_(
[19:42] <RudyValencia> ioria: yeah, e.g. [email protected] goes to [email protected] and [email protected]
[19:42] <gunnar> ioria: that's ok, thanks anyway :)
[19:42] <ioria> RudyValencia, yes, np
[19:42] <RudyValencia> hm, $500 for iredadmin with web panel is a bit much
[19:42] <RudyValencia> oops iredmail
[19:42] <stacks88> RudyValencia you dont need the pro panel
[19:42] <stacks88> it comes w/ free panel
[19:43] <ioria> RudyValencia, :-)
[19:43] <RudyValencia> oh, does it provide enough to configure simple email with secure (TLS) access and virtual addresses?
[19:43] <stacks88> yeah
[19:43] <ioria> RudyValencia, it's not difficult... i was looking for a good link... that now exists only in italian..
[19:43] <stacks88> RudyValencia i was just like you. I was sitting there trying to do dovecot and postfix by hand and all that, and its possible, but screw all that. iredmail is one big solution its dope. trust me, you'll see. Create a linux guest vm and put it on there and you will see
[19:44] <RudyValencia> stacks88: I'll just set it up on this new Linode VM I'm building
[19:44] <gunnar> stacks88: You wouldn't happen to be one of the devs if iredmail, would you? :P
[19:44] <gunnar> of*
[19:44] <ioria> RudyValencia, here we are: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[19:44] <stacks88> gunnar did you do /msg or /notice
[19:45] <stacks88> so i know how to reply back
[19:45] <RudyValencia> I'll give iredmail a try
[19:45] <gunnar> I'm just messing with ya, I'm clearly not in any useful gear. off to offtopic I go.
[19:45] <stacks88> no i know
[19:45] <stacks88> but ive been wondering
[19:46] <stacks88> when people send me a message that way
[19:46] <stacks88> its the same way you sent it
[19:46] <stacks88> so im asking you, did you do /msg or /notice
[19:46] <gunnar> using a cli irc client, do no idea.
[19:46] <gunnar> so*
[19:47] <gunnar> Going to off-topic before I feel the fury of OerHeks
[19:48] <yorwos> my opengl kwin issue didnt resolve unfortunately
[19:49] <AloeVera> OOH IVE DEALT WITH THAT
[19:49] <AloeVera> try setting it to xrender
[19:50] <yorwos> xrender goes by default now , but i cant use wobble and magic lamp and i dont know what else i was using
[19:50] <AloeVera> welp
[19:50] <AloeVera> try openGL3 + egl
[19:52] <yorwos> i tried all possible combos , xrender-1.2-2-3.1 and native-raster in each but none works
[19:52] <AloeVera> sounds like a video driver issue then?
[19:52] <Puppolo_killer> ciao
[19:54] <yorwos> dunno ... shouold i try to install amd proprie again to see if it fixes itself i guess ?
[19:54] <yorwos> i dont see much left to try
[19:54] <yorwos> reinstalled xorg and all
[19:54] <ioria> gunnar have a good supper ... bye
[19:55] <EriC^^> yorwos: did you install the ati driver from their website?
[19:55] <mmiller13> Does anyone know if apt-get dis-upgrade would also upgrade my kernel
[19:55] <EriC^^> mmiller13: yeah
[19:55] <yorwos> i had installed it from the website yes
[19:55] <EriC^^> it does
[19:55] <mmiller13> Thanks...
[19:55] <EriC^^> yorwos: ok and you tried to remove it and stuff got messed up?
[19:56] <EriC^^> yorwos: there's supposed to be an uninstall bin in /usr/share/ati or so, i didn't find it though
[19:57] <EriC^^> and purging it and reinstalling the xorg ones wouldn't boot so i had to reinstall the ati ones
[19:57] <yorwos> i removed it and kwin window manager running on top of my xfce lost some effects with the error u need opengl for this and click opengl options does nothing
[19:57] <mmiller13> Does anyone know why my comp keeps overheating? Especially when I use excell graphics
[19:57] <EriC^^> and some way or another when i ran dist-upgrade a few days later everything worked again and im back on the open source ones
[19:57] <yorwos> i booted , and for some reason i have no xorg.conf anymore but im using graphics heh
[19:58] <yorwos> some thiings came up on update lets hope
[19:59] <EriC^^> it might work
[20:00] <EriC^^> yorwos: it asked me whether i wanted to remove fglrx-core and something else
[20:00] <postmodern> how does one undo a dpkg --add --rename --divert ?
[20:01] <yorwos> well ill just update xorg and reboot
[20:01] <yorwos> just in cases the updates needs it
[20:02] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install --reintall xserver-xorg-video-all
[20:03] <yorwos> ok did it
[20:03] <yorwos> rebooting heh
[20:03] <yorwos> brb
[20:07] <yorwos> YEAA :D its fixed
[20:07] <EriC^^> cool :D
[20:08] <john_doe_jr> how to merge unallocated space using gparted ubuntu
[20:08] <yorwos> thanx :)
[20:08] <EriC^^> yorwos: no problem :)
[20:10] <nicolas_> ok
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr if both partitions are primary or extended (must be the same) : backup, then delete the other partition, merge, put data back
[20:12] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: boot a live usb if it's an ubuntu partition and right click and click on resize
[20:13] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: backing up first is probably a good idea
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr EriC^^ resizing without dataloss can be done, technically, but it takes forever (I tried it)
[20:15] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: never tried it but i guess it would unless the space is right after the partition
[20:15] <EriC^^> then it should only take a few seconds
[20:19] <le_tout_pettit> hello! can anybody help me decide between kubuntu or ubuntu gnome?
[20:19] <le_tout_pettit> in terms of productivity (i'm a translator and an amateur designer)
[20:19] <EriC^^> le_tout_pettit: it's really a matter of preference, try them both and decide
[20:19] <newbnewb> I cant get software manager or software updater to work on a new install
[20:19] <newbnewb> ive reintalled twice
[20:19] <le_tout_pettit> which one has the best software?
[20:20] <newbnewb> ive tried to follow fixes on askubuntu and advice from others online and nothing works....can somebody try and help?
[20:20] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you end up checksumming the usb?
[20:20] <EriC^^> le_tout_pettit: i never tried kde long enough to know
[20:20] <le_tout_pettit> EriC^^: i find goddies and 'baddies' in both but i see kde apps have a very active app development while gnome is staying in too simple things
[20:20] <EriC^^> i thought it was pretty ugly and bloated (imho) and removed it pretty quickly
[20:20] <yorwos> im a photographer i chose xfce
[20:20] <newbnewb> Eric I dont know how and we lost contact
[20:21] <newbnewb> I had no idea where we were in terminal...I was just doing what you said
[20:21] <yorwos> xfce+kwin on top heh
[20:21] <le_tout_pettit> lol
[20:21] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i got disconnected
[20:21] <yorwos> i like the fact the panels r so customizable , im running 3 of them around my screen
[20:22] <newbnewb> sure I wasnt complaining....just saying I had no idea how to continue
[20:22] <newbnewb> and nobody picked it up
[20:22] <EriC^^> newbnewb: mount the usb again and then open a terminal and type lsblk
[20:22] <le_tout_pettit> i have a weird feeling, i love gnome shell, it's behavior and its look but here i'm feeling i'm loosing amazing kde apps
[20:22] <le_tout_pettit> :S
[20:22] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i know
[20:22] <newbnewb> ok I did that
[20:23] <newbnewb> toshiba@toshibalaptop:~$ lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 111.8G 0 disk ├─sda1 8:1 0 243M 0 part /boot ├─sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part └─sda5 8:5 0 111.6G 0 part ├─ubuntu--vg-root (dm-0) 252:0 0 109.6G 0 lvm / └─ubuntu--vg-swap_1 (dm-1) 252:1
[20:23] <yorwos> when u say shell u mean the terminal ?
[20:23] <le_tout_pettit> nope, i mean gnome-shell
[20:23] <le_tout_pettit> lol
[20:23] <EriC^^> newbnewb: paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> newbnewb next time, use a !pastebin for such long pastes
[20:24] <newbnewb> paste.ubuntu.com only?
[20:24] <yorwos> the system can ban u for long pastes i was banned for it heh
[20:24] <yorwos> its automatic
[20:24] <EriC^^> newbnewb: or any other pastebin
[20:24] <EriC^^> newbnewb: mount the usb in nautilus
[20:24] <newbnewb> i mean I was confused as to exactly what to enter and what was instruction
[20:24] <newbnewb> just put "paste.ubuntu.com" and enter?
[20:25] <EriC^^> newbnewb: oh, no it's a website
[20:25] <newbnewb> you want me to go to ubuntu.com?
[20:25] <newbnewb> im lost
[20:25] <EriC^^> le_tout_pettit: like what kde apps?
[20:25] <MirodroidU2> le_tout_pettit, Gnome-shell is a terminal :|
[20:26] <EriC^^> le_tout_pettit: you could install the apps i think, it would install the qt libraries and you could use the apps too i think
[20:26] <MirodroidU2> same with Konsole
[20:26] <le_tout_pettit> like digikam, krita, lokalize, for example
[20:28] <le_tout_pettit> but lokalize for example even install dolphin
[20:28] <le_tout_pettit> it's like i don't want a gnome with dolphin :S that's weird lol
[20:29] <newbnewb> can anyone else help me? EricC doesnt have stable enough internet it seems
[20:29] <EriC^> newbnewb: i got dc
[20:30] <newbnewb> I know...your internet is worse than mine ;)
[20:30] <newbnewb> jesus
[20:30] <newbnewb> its pointless
[20:30] <EriC^> yeah usually i use another connection but it's limited traffic and i've not recharged yet
[20:30] <newbnewb> ok
[20:30] <EriC^> anyways yeah go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste whatever output you get
[20:31] <ferz> Hi
[20:31] <EriC^> or install pastebinit and it'll upload the output for you and give you a link
[20:31] <EriC^> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:31] <newbnewb> command not found
[20:31] <newbnewb> ok
[20:31] <ferz> I've a trouble with laptop keyboard: it seems disabled. I've to use a external usb keyboard.
[20:32] <EriC^> ferz: does it work right after the pc boots?
[20:32] <EriC^> like for the bios?
[20:32] <newbnewb> @EricC sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:32] <newbnewb> oops sorry
[20:32] <newbnewb> Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. toshiba@toshibalaptop:~$
[20:32] <newbnewb> this is what I get whenever I try to instal/uninstall/purge anything
[20:33] <ferz> EriC^: it worked fine until last afternoon suspend
[20:33] <EriC^> ferz: turn off the laptop, remove the battery and put it back in
[20:33] <newbnewb> same output when I tried to uninstall and reinstall Softwre manager etc
[20:33] <ferz> EriC^: I've not modified the bios
[20:33] <EriC^> ferz: you could hold the power button if you wanted to make sure the capacitors all discharge
[20:33] <ferz> EriC^: ok
[20:34] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok mount the usb
[20:34] <newbnewb> its mounted
[20:34] <EriC^> ok type df | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:34] <ferz> EriC^: so you think that's a pc trouble not an OS trouble.
[20:35] <OerHeks> newbnewb, do you run this in terminal with softwarecenter open, by any chance?
[20:35] <newbnewb> http://termbin.com/gyyu toshiba@toshibalaptop:~$
[20:35] <EriC^> ferz: try to enter the bios to know if it's an os or pc issue
[20:35] <ronh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq says I need 20 GB swap to be able to hibernate on a system with 16GB ram.. not 16+1?
[20:35] <newbnewb> OerHeks Sotware Center and Software Updater wont open
[20:35] <EriC^> ferz: i think it might have to do with the pc not shutting off properly and removing the battery might fix it
[20:35] <newbnewb> they start....dont populate...then go away
[20:35] <udevd> could anyone download driver.tar.gz from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267961&page=12 and send it to [email protected]?
[20:35] <ferz> EriC^: thank you
[20:35] <udevd> i do not want to register just for some attachment
[20:36] <EriC^> ferz: no problem
[20:36] <newbnewb> and the notification thing gives an error about packages not being able to open or be parsed
[20:36] <anjo_n3gro> .i,
[20:37] <EriC^> newbnewb: type md5sum -c /media/toshiba/32GB\ USB/md5sum.txt
[20:38] <newbnewb> you want me to paste all output? its a lot and seems rude to fill the entire screen here
[20:38] <udevd> ...pretty please?
[20:38] <udevd> 20:35 < udevd> could anyone download driver.tar.gz from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267961&page=12 and send it to [email protected]?
[20:38] <EriC^> newbnewb: type md5sum -c /media/toshiba/32GB\ USB/md5sum.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:39] <newbnewb> again a LOT of output
[20:39] <EriC^> newbnewb: any failed files?
[20:39] <ronh> s
[20:39] <newbnewb> mostly saying no such file or firectory and 54 not able to be read
[20:39] <newbnewb> yeah most all say failed
[20:39] <EriC^> newbnewb: type md5sum -c /media/toshiba/32GB\ USB/md5sum.txt | grep -i fail
[20:39] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, iso downloading time
[20:40] <newbnewb> so its bad?
[20:40] <EriC^> yeah
[20:40] <EriC^> do some say OK and not failed?
[20:40] <EriC^> just a sanity check
[20:40] <newbnewb> how does it work except for the software center and updater if so much is wrong?
[20:40] <newbnewb> let me look again to see if any are ok
[20:41] <EriC^> newbnewb: maybe you have to cd first
[20:41] <newbnewb> EricC all of them say either no such file or directory or failed
[20:41] <EriC^> try cd /media/toshiba/32GB\ USB
[20:41] <EriC^> ok cd first
[20:42] <newbnewb> ok done
[20:42] <newbnewb> how to you go back to main directory just so I know?
[20:42] <EriC^> and type ls and tell us if there is a md5sum.txt file there
[20:42] <newbnewb> toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$ ls autorun.inf casper-rw ldlinux.sys pool syslinux boot dists md5sum.txt preseed wubi.exe casper install pics README.diskdefines toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$
[20:42] <EriC^> newbnewb: cd .. takes you back a dir, cd alone takes you to your home dir
[20:43] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, type md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[20:43] <newbnewb> all say ok this time
[20:44] <EriC^> are you sure
[20:44] <EriC^> try md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i fail
[20:44] <newbnewb> yes its about one page of output and all say ok....will do other command now
[20:45] <newbnewb> toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$ md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i fail
[20:53] <newbnewb> Eric C still there?
[20:53] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, type sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[20:54] <EriC^> newbnewb: and sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* just in case
[20:55] <newbnewb> rm: cannot remove ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial’: Is a directory
[20:55] <newbnewb> eas output for first one
[20:55] <EriC^> no problem
[20:55] <EriC^> ok
[20:55] <sed> hello all i'm newest
[20:55] <newbnewb> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[20:56] <newbnewb> sorry
[20:56] <newbnewb> rm: cannot remove ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*’: No such file or directory
[20:56] <newbnewb> output for second one
[20:56] <EriC^> newbnewb: type sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[20:56] <EriC^> that might be why it wasn't working
[20:57] <newbnewb> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial’: File exists
[20:57] <newbnewb> i must be in some twilight zone as nothing anyone tells me works like it should :P
[20:57] <EriC^> those errors dont make sense
[20:57] <newbnewb> yeah so goes everything I do
[20:57] <EriC^> type ls -ld /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[20:58] <EriC^> ah actually they do
[20:58] <EriC^> the partial dir is empty
[20:58] <newbnewb> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 13 10:19 /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[20:58] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, type sudo apt-get update
[20:59] <newbnewb> its working....but it always ends the same with a failure when I do this
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> I wonder, how is it, that newbnewb struggles so hard?
[20:59] <newbnewb> saying unable to parse etc...will see
[20:59] <newbnewb> Monkey Dust I am old and slow....but I am also doing exactly as told and it doesnt work...I dont know ahts wrong
[21:00] <newbnewb> its why I get so frustrated....nothing does as expected
[21:00] <newbnewb> and even you guys who are experts are unable to sort it ...so what chance do I ahve?
[21:01] <newbnewb> maybe I should get an iPad and give up on life :P
[21:02] <k1l> newbnewb: i see you just giving the complain story, again. please stick to actually facts. this is just demotivating others to help you
[21:02] <newbnewb> kll i was just explaining
[21:02] <Nytram> Serious question time. Anyone know an irc where I can talk to webdevs with the view to creating a website for me?
[21:03] <bprompt> Nytram: #css-lance or hmmm #web maybe
[21:03] <newbnewb> trying to put human face on my frustration...showing I am trying
[21:03] <k1l> !alis | Nytram try this to find channels
[21:04] <bprompt> Nytram: there's always www.rentacoder.com also
[21:05] <twiler> Hello?
[21:05] <bprompt> allo
[21:05] <twiler> Anyone there?
[21:05] <newbnewb> EricC its done and this time didnt end with the usual error
[21:05] <newbnewb> usually ends with failure and unable to parse after all the dowloading
[21:05] <twiler> WOW! Real live oeople!
[21:05] <bprompt> heheh
[21:06] <newbnewb> this time says fetched 22mb and reading lists is done
[21:06] <twiler> OK, I'm gonna ask for help here, and hope that someone can help me!
[21:06] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, great
[21:06] <bprompt> twiler: bear in mind the channel topic
[21:07] <EriC^> newbnewb: type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:07] <newbnewb> oh....usually I am in root right? this time we did it in the usb drive
[21:07] <newbnewb> still from being in usb drive?
[21:07] <twiler> OK, bprompt I apologize
[21:07] <EriC^> newbnewb: yeah it doesn't matter
[21:07] <Nytram> bprompt, Excellent, thank you. 8)
[21:07] <bprompt> np
[21:08] <bprompt> !ask | twiler
[21:08] <newbnewb> ok....says 230mb will be added so will take some time as I have 1mbps internet
[21:08] <newbnewb> probably an hour I think
[21:08] <bprompt> hmmm 230mbs over a 1mbps is peanuts
[21:08] <newbnewb> yeah its out in country and its terrible
[21:09] <bprompt> that should take no more than hmmm about 10mins or less
[21:09] <newbnewb> well a 1gb movie takes 3 or 4 hours so I was guessing
[21:09] <bprompt> newbnewb: you said 1mbs .....hmmm
[21:09] <OerHeks> newbnewb, that is faster than a 56k6 modem
[21:10] <tasaif> my question is: is it possible to run a 32bit binary on a 64bit platform in userspace?
[21:10] <tasaif> without sudo access
[21:11] <twiler> So I need help starting openbazaar, is there a ./start command in terminal that is standard, or is ./start OpenBazaar correct? I ask, because I can't seem to get it started, so, any help whatsoever would be appreciated, as #openbazaar is all quiet :/
[21:11] <newbnewb> OerHeks I just know its very slow....I had 50 in last place and it was few min per gb......now takes hours
[21:11] <newbnewb> maybe there is another limiting factor I dont understand
[21:11] <EriC^> twiler: how did you install openbazaar?
[21:11] <Nytram> thanks ubottu
[21:11] <tasaif> twiler
[21:12] <tasaif> how did you install openbazaar?
[21:12] <twiler> @EriC using terminal, why?
[21:12] <tasaif> did you do apt-get install (somethign) ?
[21:12] <bprompt> twiler: you mean, you compiled it?
[21:12] <twiler> @tasaif: using terminal why?
[21:13] <tasaif> twiler: ^
[21:13] <twiler> @bprompt: I don't know what that means, so, I'm gonna assume that I didn't compile it..
[21:13] <genii> "using terminal" is not specific enough. You coulod have wgettted it from somewhere and then ran make, or you could have ran apt-get install, or any number of things in the terminal
[21:13] <twiler> IT was an apt-get
[21:14] <EriC^> twiler: did you type sudo apt-get install openbazaar ? or cd openbazaar and make make install ?
[21:14] <twiler> @genii using apt-get
[21:14] <tasaif> twiler did you check your start menu or equivalent to see if an entry was created?
[21:14] <twiler> @EriC sudo apt-get
[21:14] <EriC^> twiler: ok, are you using unity?
[21:14] <tasaif> did you type bazaar into the unity thing and see if anything came up?
[21:14] <k1l> its not in the repos, afaik
[21:14] <EriC^> or xubuntu etc. ?
[21:15] <tasaif> k1l: maybe he added a different repo
[21:15] <k1l> i guess we will never know :/
[21:15] <twiler> um.. no, let me check, although every single other time i started the application, it was using terminal
[21:15] <twiler> but, I will check, brb
[21:15] <EriC^> apt-cache policy guys
[21:16] <tasaif> wuzzat?
[21:16] <Namedotval> is there any way to bind another key to scroll xterm? my mousewheel is broken and my laptop doesnt have pgup/pgdown
[21:16] <tasaif> EriC^: oh cool, learn something new every day
[21:16] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bzr
[21:17] <twiler> OK, there is no start menu entry whatsoever
[21:18] <OerHeks> !info qbzr
[21:18] <EriC^> twiler: if you're using unity open the dash and type bazaar
[21:19] <EriC^> twiler: if you're on xubuntu try alt+f2 i think
[21:19] <tasaif> OerHeks: openbazaar != bazaar
[21:19] <twiler> I get the folder that it's installed to and a file called openbazaar in that folder, but, no icon like there is for say, Google Chrome, when I type "chrome"
[21:19] <EriC^> twiler: what folder?
[21:20] <EriC^> twiler: you mean in the dash?
[21:20] <EriC^> twiler: type dpkg -l | grep bazaar
[21:20] <twiler> Yes, if I type it into the screen that comes up when I hit the "super" key?
[21:20] <twiler> That's the dash, right?
[21:21] <EriC^> yeah
[21:21] <EriC^> twiler: type dpkg -l | grep "bazaar\|bzr" | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:22] <promet> has anyone tried running 14.10 from a pendrive? it seems to be eerily fast...
[21:22] <tasaif> EriC^: learned 2 newe things today
[21:22] <twiler> OK EriC I typed that
[21:22] <twiler> and hit enter
[21:22] <EriC^> tasaif: cool
[21:23] <EriC^> twiler: ok, what's the link it gavE?
[21:23] <twiler> http://termbin.com/nec0
[21:23] <twiler> Is that what you were expecting?
[21:24] <twiler> Hey, Eric, I have to jet for about 20 minutes, but I will be bafk
[21:24] <EriC^> well, not what i wanted no
[21:24] <twiler> back8
[21:24] <twiler> ok?
[21:24] <EriC^> twiler: ok
[21:24] <twiler> Thank you SO much@
[21:24] <twiler> I mean it, big time!
[21:24] <EriC^> no problem!
[21:25] <tasaif> twiler: try openbazaar start
[21:25] <twiler> EriC you have always been a great help to me, every single time I have needed your help
[21:26] <EriC^> twiler: you're welcome :)
[21:30] <daved_> Hi! Is this a good channel to ask about LVM setup/usage?
[21:30] <newbnewb> EricC its unpacking things but an alert also came up on desktop saying "system alert report problem yes or no"
[21:30] <newbnewb> does show what problem though
[21:31] <newbnewb> "System problem detected" "do you want to report Problem?"
[21:31] <EriC^> newbnewb: it's usually nothing, if you press details it should say what crashed
[21:31] <newbnewb> no details button
[21:31] <EriC^> it's not a big deal though, i used to get a lot too, you can disable it if you want
[21:31] <newbnewb> choices are cancel and report
[21:31] <newbnewb> ok
[21:31] <EriC^> report if you want
[21:32] <sga> Hi everyone, I'm having difficulties to run the rc.local script at startup, although it runs fine manually. It is executable by everyone (-rwxr-xr-x), but it doesn't run at startup. I'm a bit puzzled
[21:32] <EriC^> sga: what are you trying to run in it?
[21:33] <newbnewb> "sorry ubuntu has experienced an internal error"
[21:33] <daved_> I am confused about LVM: I installed assuming I could easily resize filesystem folders, but doesn't seem so
[21:33] <newbnewb> another alert says restart firefox....should I do that and come back or what for terminal to finish?
[21:33] <sga> Eric^: http://dpaste.com/1JDPW3F
[21:34] <sga> basic shell commands : launch guake and another program
[21:34] <EriC^> newbnewb: you can restart firefox it probably got updated
[21:34] <newbnewb> ok brb
[21:35] <EriC^> sga: yuo can't launch quake from rc.local
[21:35] <EriC^> *guake
[21:35] <EriC^> that's run by root before you even login to your user
[21:35] <sga> EriC^: but when I start Linux, guake is not executing. I need to start it manually
[21:36] <EriC^> sga: open the dash and type startup and add the programs there
[21:36] <Nytram> Exactly
[21:36] <Nytram> Was reading this and thinking "what?"
[21:36] <sga> I'm on Linux Mint, so I'm not sure I can do that
[21:36] <Nytram> Yes you can
[21:36] <Nytram> I use mint
[21:37] <sga> Okay, is dash a program ?
[21:37] <Nytram> But in Windows 7 right now. heheh
[21:37] <sga> I feel you
[21:37] <wafflejock> sga, you don't need dash just the startup applications GUI ideally, dash is just used for searching installed apps basically
[21:37] <oussama> hello
[21:37] <Nytram> Hey oussama
[21:37] <newbnewb> EricC its done
[21:38] <newbnewb> toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$
[21:38] <sga> Ah, I located the startup application
[21:38] <Nytram> ;0
[21:38] <Nytram> oops
[21:38] <Nytram> ;)
[21:39] <sga> Okay, so guake apparently is started with this tool
[21:39] <sga> But it actually is not started when I boot Linux
[21:39] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok
[21:39] <tgm4883> sga: have you tried the Linux Mint channel?
[21:39] <wafflejock> sga, hmm works here, have guake and just have it running on startup not sure about mint though I'm on Ubuntu Gnome
[21:40] <tgm4883> !mint | sgsa
[21:40] <tgm4883> sga^
[21:40] <sga> tgm4483: yes, but not responding atm
[21:41] <tgm4883> sga: so you thought you would try here, where none of us know what changes linux mint has done to anything?
[21:43] <sga> tgm4483: I'm a new Linux user, I don't exactly know what is common between distros and what is not, so I figured I could ask here
[21:43] <sga> wafflejock: hmm ok, I'm going to look more
[21:44] <tgm4883> sga: ok, well official Ubuntu flavors are supported here. Derivatives are not as we don't know what changes they have made that could be breaking what you are seeing
[21:44] <sga> tgm4883: thanks for the tip
[21:47] <newbnewb> EricC what should I do next?
[21:47] <EriC^^> newbnewb: whatever you want :)
[21:47] <newbnewb> its finsihed?
[21:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:48] <EriC^^> you could add the universe repository if it's not added yet
[21:48] <newbnewb> how to do this?
[21:48] <newbnewb> ah software manager is missing as well now
[21:48] <newbnewb> disappeared from dock
[21:49] <EriC^^> open the dash and type software then click on ..
[21:49] <EriC^^> ok type software and if you get software center click and drag it to the launcher
[21:49] <newbnewb> ok did it
[21:50] <newbnewb> EricC ok software center opened right....
[21:50] <EriC^^> ok click on edit > software sources
[21:51] <newbnewb> EricC sorry I dont see edit anywhere
[21:51] <newbnewb> oh damn...in menu...im stupid sorry
[21:51] <EriC^^> up to the left in the global menu
[21:52] <newbnewb> ok now what?
[21:53] <newbnewb> it doesnt do anything when I choose software sources...just closes menu
[21:53] <EriC^^> clink on universe so it has a check
[21:53] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok open the dash and type software then click on software & updates
[21:54] <newbnewb> nothing happens
[21:54] <EriC^^> open a terminal and type software-properties-gtk
[21:54] <newbnewb> ugh....more things not working :P
[21:54] <newbnewb> ok
[21:55] <newbnewb> i did this and nothing happens...jsut puts root prompt again
[21:55] <newbnewb> i wonder why nothing works as it should....
[21:55] <EriC^^> !find software-properties-gtk
[21:55] <EriC^^> newbnewb: type sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-properties-gtk
[21:56] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you reboot after the upgrade?
[21:56] <newbnewb> Eric do you know why so many things were out of whack compared to usual?
[21:57] <newbnewb> Ah no didnt...was I supposed to? Sorry
[21:57] <EriC^^> newbnewb: well if it installed a new kernel, you could boot into it and use it
[21:58] <newbnewb> so should I reboot now? or keep going in terminal? I did the resintall and it worked
[21:58] <EriC^^> newbnewb: well try opening it again
[21:58] <newbnewb> ok its open now
[21:59] <EriC^^> ok nice
[21:59] <newbnewb> what do I do in it now?
[21:59] <EriC^^> click on universe so it has a check next to it
[21:59] <EriC^^> it's the second one i think
[22:00] <newbnewb> already checked
[22:00] <EriC^^> ok, if you want codecs and mp3 stuff and stuff with copyrights etc click the 2 below it
[22:00] <EriC^^> multiverse and something i forgot what
[22:00] <newbnewb> ok
[22:00] <newbnewb> they are all chekced
[22:00] <EriC^^> ok
[22:01] <newbnewb> except source code
[22:01] <EriC^^> not needed unless you want to download source code
[22:01] <newbnewb> ok
[22:01] <shovel_boss> http://youtu.be/P32JDvu0b-0
[22:01] <mmiller13> Does anyone have a solution to this: I upgrade my distro using apt-get and I opt to modify my grub so I dont have the entry to select the new distro on startup
[22:01] <mmiller13> heed help
[22:01] <shovel_boss> you are much welcone
[22:01] <newbnewb> options are revert and close
[22:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, click close
[22:02] <roundcirle> mmiller13: never upgrade your distor
[22:02] <roundcirle> *distro
[22:02] <mmiller13> why not
[22:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you can customize the terminal if you want
[22:02] <roundcirle> mmiller13: except you like pain
[22:02] <OerHeks> !ot | shovel_boss
[22:02] <sga> !guidelines
[22:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: and install compiz and use the click on launcher item to minimize which is pretty useful
[22:03] <roundcirle> mmiller13: depending on the case i suggest a fresh install
[22:03] <newbnewb> ok
[22:03] <mmiller13> ok but my question is how to add the new entry to grub
[22:03] <newbnewb> so do I need to do anything else to make it normal? or should it be back to what it should have been after installing?
[22:03] <roundcirle> mmiller13: you also get rid of corrupted stuff that piles up somewhere nobody looks for
[22:03] <roundcirle> mmiller13: oh sorry XD
[22:03] <roundcirle> mmiller13: so its too late now
[22:03] <OerHeks> roundcirle, fud! upgrade is not a problem. and there will be a cleanup.
[22:03] <newbnewb> i want to make sure I am starting from the beginning so I dont mess somehting up
[22:04] <mmiller13> ok but I need to a way to select the new installation on the grub screen
[22:04] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i've no idea, seems you had a problem with the software center
[22:04] <Bashing-om> mmiller13: Have you ran terminal command -> sudo update-grub <- ? To pick up new/added items ?
[22:04] <roundcirle> mmiller13: im looking for it, sorry for irritating you
[22:05] <newbnewb> so is there some command or package I can install that will make it like it should be from start?
[22:05] <EriC^^> newbnewb: what do you mean?
[22:05] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you want to checksum the whole installation ( metaphorically )
[22:05] <EriC^^> :D
[22:05] <newbnewb> i mean I would like to have it set up like it should be from a normal install....so I can try and learn and change from there
[22:06] <newbnewb> and make sure I am not starting with other things not as they should be
[22:06] <newbnewb> is it possible?
[22:06] <EriC^^> newbnewb: well, you could attempt something
[22:06] <newbnewb> or I just have to try and see if any new troubles happen?
[22:06] <EriC^^> or that :P
[22:06] <EriC^^> there's debsums , it's supposed to check the md5sum of all the packages that are installed
[22:06] <EriC^^> !info debsums
[22:07] <newbnewb> ok...and the question I first came here for before software center broke....how can I make all apps show in one folder?
[22:07] <EriC^^> you could run it if you wanted, it would take an hour i guess
[22:07] <EriC^^> maybe less
[22:07] <newbnewb> ive tried selecting filter for apps and it only shows 6 of them....and some only show in dock
[22:08] <EriC^^> newbnewb: press super+a
[22:08] <EriC^^> then show all items
[22:08] <newbnewb> sorry what is super?
[22:08] <EriC^^> the win key
[22:08] <newbnewb> i dont have a win key
[22:08] <EriC^^> or open the dash and click on the app icon at the bottom
[22:08] <newbnewb> ctrl fn alt
[22:08] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it's the one next to alt
[22:09] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:09] <mmiller13> If I apt-get dist-upgrade would that go through the installation process over again or would it skipped whats already been installed
[22:09] <newbnewb> is there a way to have a top level folder with all apps on dock or desktop?
[22:10] <newbnewb> so I dont have to search or go three levels into dash?
[22:10] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah type ln -s ~/Desktop /usr/share/applications
[22:10] <newbnewb> normally in osx I have a folder in dock for apps....and all show there
[22:10] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah type ln -s ~/Desktop/apps /usr/share/applications
[22:11] <newbnewb> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘/usr/share/applications/apps’: Permission denied
[22:12] <bprompt> newbnewb: maybe you meant ln -s /usr/share/applications ~/Desktop/apps
[22:12] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ah sorry, ln -s /usr/share/applications ~/Desktop/apps
[22:12] <newbnewb> thanks....now can I put it in the dock?
[22:13] <newbnewb> it doesnt seem to allow dragging there
[22:14] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you want it like a menu?
[22:14] <newbnewb> when i first came here my problem was trying to get folders in the dock....so I could have apps folder, photos folder, mucis folder etc all in dock
[22:14] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you want to click on it and have it open the dir?
[22:14] <newbnewb> I guess.....in osx dock I have few apps on one side...then a divider....then few folders on right
[22:14] <EriC^^> newbnewb: or hover over it and display?
[22:14] <newbnewb> I guess? Sorry I am not sure about terminlogy.
[22:14] <mmiller13> Bashing-om: Would sudo upgrade-grub add the new os installation to the grub menu
[22:15] <EriC^^> newbnewb: if you want to click on it and have it open in the file manager then it's pretty easy
[22:15] <newbnewb> ok how to do that?
[22:16] <EriC^^> newbnewb: if you want to hover over it and have it display stuff i'm not sure how you could do that without cairo dock etc.
[22:16] <EriC^^> cairo dock is pretty similar to mac btw
[22:16] <EriC^^> i guess
[22:16] <newbnewb> yeah osx displays with hover I guess but its same use for me to have it open to window....I just want to minimize my clicks....see all apps with one click from dock....all music etc
[22:17] <newbnewb> what do you think is best option?
[22:17] <newbnewb> goal is to reduce clicks to get to stuff
[22:17] <EriC^^> music is like 2 clicks away
[22:17] <EriC^^> nautilus > music
[22:17] <newbnewb> i dont know what nautilus is
[22:17] <EriC^^> the file manager
[22:18] <newbnewb> ah
[22:18] <EriC^^> alt+tab is pretty useful
[22:18] <newbnewb> so can I reduce that by one and ahve the music folder in the dock?
[22:18] <newbnewb> same with apps...photos...videos
[22:18] <newbnewb> is cairo a dock like docky?
[22:19] <newbnewb> hmmm I just looked at that app shortcut we made on desktop and there aren't any icons
[22:20] <newbnewb> its blank white icons or ones with gibberish
[22:20] <newbnewb> photo lens for unity is only thing in there with an actual stylized icon
[22:22] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah, type sudo cp /usr/share/applications/nautilus.desktop /usr/share/applications/mymusic.desktop
[22:22] <EriC^^> newbnewb: try nautilus /usr/share/applications
[22:23] <orafu> my unity-2d on precise has become transparent: it does not show a menu bar or launcher anymore. But they remain functional: a mouse-over gives me tooltips and mouse clicks work as usual; what can I do to get the menu and launcher (and Docky, BTW) displayed again? (I already killed unity-2d-panel and unity-2d-shell and they restarted, but nothing changed)
[22:24] <newbnewb> Eric that second one brought up a window with all apps...but its not anywhere in an icon on dock...when I close it its gone
[22:24] <newbnewb> the one we made before on dock is still messed up
[22:24] <newbnewb> should I delete that old one?
[22:24] <EriC^^> newbnewb: the one on the desktop?
[22:25] <orafu> is my problem related to compiz?
[22:26] <newbnewb> the first one we made that is a file thatsays "apps" and has a lock in corner is on desktop....its not correct inside....when I used the nautilus /usr/share/applications command a window ipens from the nautilus icon but when I close it goes back in there and I cant open it directly without command again
[22:27] <newbnewb> I want to put an app folder in the dock...that clicking will show all apps like that command does
[22:27] <newbnewb> that command produces a window with all apps just like I want....but its not reproducable without typing in terminal again
[22:28] <twokay> Just sayin...job interview tomorrow...panic is setting in...servers are nearly setup...portfolio is nearly done...wish me luck! :)
[22:29] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok
[22:29] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah, type sudo cp /usr/share/applications/nautilus.desktop /usr/share/applications/allapps.desktop
[22:30] <EriC^^> do one that's called mymusic.desktop and any other dirs you want to put on the launcher
[22:30] <newbnewb> ok will try....I tried to copy the app folder to the desktop to try and it messes the icons up inside....dont knw why
[22:31] <newbnewb> EricC nothing happened
[22:33] <EriC^^> newbnewb: if it returns nothing then it worked
[22:33] <newbnewb> if I open dash and go to computer/user/share there is a folder "applications"...just what I want in the dock....
[22:33] <EriC^^> newbnewb: type sudo nano /usr/share/applications/allapps.desktop
[22:33] <EriC^^> newbnewb: or just cd first to /usr/share/applications , and type sudo nano allapps.desktop
[22:33] <newbnewb> but there is no new folder in dock
[22:34] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it's there but you need to edit the name and command
[22:35] <orafu> hmmm... after more than 1 hour, the menu and launcher came back
[22:35] <newbnewb> I did the last command and the output is this
[22:35] <newbnewb> [Desktop Entry] Name=Files Comment=Access and organize files Keywords=folder;manager;explore;disk;filesystem; Exec=nautilus --new-window %U Icon=system-file-manager Terminal=false Type=Application StartupNotify=true OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity; Categories=GNOME;GTK;Utility;Core;FileManager; MimeType=inode/directory;application/x-gnome-saved-search; X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Bugzilla=GNOME X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Product=nautilus X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=g
[22:36] <newbnewb> and I see no new folder or icon in dock
[22:36] <EriC^^> newbnewb: paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[22:36] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, change Name= to Name=Music
[22:36] <newbnewb> where? right now there is no prompt
[22:36] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i mean Name=Apps
[22:37] <EriC^^> newbnewb: after you type sudo nano allapps.desktop
[22:37] <EriC^^> that's a text editor
[22:37] <newbnewb> ok did it
[22:37] <newbnewb> X? for exit?
[22:37] <newbnewb> shift X?
[22:37] <EriC^^> ctrl+o to save
[22:37] <EriC^^> hold on
[22:38] <EriC^^> change the name
[22:38] <EriC^^> and Exec=nautilus /usr/share/applications
[22:38] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! I tried to install some 32-bit libraries on a 64-bit install, and now I can't get apt-get upgrade to work. Where to start?
[22:39] <newbnewb> EricC change file name to save to apps also?
[22:39] <EriC^^> make a mymusic.desktop too and change the name and replace Exec= with Exec=nautilus /home/<user>/Music
[22:39] <EriC^^> etc.
[22:39] * EriC^^ goes to get a soda..
[22:39] <newbnewb> im lost
[22:41] <mmiller13> Does anyone know much about apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:42] <mmiller13> I didnt add the option to add the entry to grub bootloader so I cant boot into the new istallation
[22:42] <mmiller13> i used sudo upgrade-grub and still no luck
[22:43] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i dont follow
[22:43] <genii> mmiller13: It's update, not upgrade. So: sudo update-grub
[22:43] <EriC^^> mmiller13: you're trying to get grub to appear?
[22:43] <mmiller13> correct update
[22:43] <newbnewb> so I am in that editor...I changed name to Applications
[22:44] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, change the Exec=
[22:44] <newbnewb> control O to save it...then it asks "File Name to Write:"
[22:44] <mmiller13> so I need the new installation added to my grub
[22:44] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you cd to /usr/share/applications earlier?
[22:44] <newbnewb> i have to look...i have a hard time following as I dont know the meaning of these commands mostly
[22:45] <newbnewb> i dont know as I am in this editor and cant look back
[22:45] <newbnewb> i suck at this cli stuff
[22:45] <EriC^^> newbnewb: nevermind, when you press ctrl+o
[22:45] <EriC^^> it should already say allapps.desktop
[22:45] <EriC^^> just hit enter
[22:46] <newbnewb> it moved cursor back up to Name
[22:46] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, press ctrl+x
[22:46] <newbnewb> ok...so yes I am in the right directory
[22:46] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:47] <EriC^^> type nautilus /usr/share/applications
[22:47] <EriC^^> and drag the icon that says Applications to the desktop
[22:47] <newbnewb> to desktop or dock?
[22:47] <EriC^^> desktop
[22:48] <newbnewb> error while moving
[22:49] <bishoy> hello
[22:49] <EriC^^> newbnewb: right click > copy
[22:49] <EriC^^> paste it on the desktop
[22:50] <mmiller13> So I thought I run apt-get dist-upgrade again but It wont allow me to re install
[22:50] <newbnewb> my turn to dc....
[22:51] <newbnewb> ok EricC it worked and I put in dock....it looks just like Nautilus....when I repeat for Music etc will they all look like file cabinet too?
[22:51] <newbnewb> actually I dont think I can rpeat as I got lost in the steps :P
[22:51] <ki7mt> Hello all, maybe a question for ubuntu-devel, but does anyone know of a native Ubuntu package that uses diversions ( https://wiki.debian.org/Adding%20and%20removing%20diversions) during installation?
[22:52] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah, you can change the icon
[22:53] <newbnewb> how....I right clicked to see if there was some options....nothing is intuitive or where I think it would be
[22:53] <newbnewb> no properties or settings etc with a right click on the icon
[22:54] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you have to change it in the .desktop file
[22:54] <EriC^^> Icon=
[22:54] <Kenb52> Hi All I figured out the easy way to install format and use a hard drive in Ubuntu and/or Zorin Linux. Use Disk Util also known as Disks in Zorin. But do not use Gparted.
[22:54] <OerHeks> !info dpkg-divert
[22:55] <newbnewb> where is that?
[22:55] <newbnewb> why is everything so cryptic? its confusing
[22:55] <newbnewb> nothing is obvious
[22:55] <EriC^^> newbnewb: sudo nano allapps.desktop
[22:55] <newbnewb> how can I find it in the gui?
[22:56] <genii> OerHeks: dpkg-divert is part of dpkg package
[22:56] <newbnewb> i have no idea what I am doing in the terminal and am just transcribing instructons....I need to see it to understandit
[22:56] <OerHeks> thanks genii just found http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/dpkg-divert.8.html but not sure this is what ki7mt needs
[22:56] <ki7mt> OerHeks, It does exist: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/dpkg-divert.8.html
[22:57] <newbnewb> i dont think I can repeat this process for music and pictures etc as it was so confusing I got lost
[22:57] <Kenb52> Ny question of the day, is this. I added to Startup tool, to mount my Network share, and In PCMANFM It is bookmarked. That seemed to work perfect but some particular 3rd party apps, still do not seem to see it until you open up PCMANFM. So I am wondering beyond using say Gigolo to automount, is there a best way to automount the share, so that Clementine in partitcular can see it?
[22:58] <ki7mt> OerHeks, yes, that's what script I need to use, but I can't find a Ubuntu package that is using it. Mostly they use update-alternatives., which I may have to use that in conjunction with Conflicts: xxx
[22:58] <newbnewb> dammit its not working the same now...the applications icon in the dock opens the home folder now
[22:58] <newbnewb> wtf
[22:59] <newbnewb> and suddenly firefox has no minimize and close buttons
[22:59] <newbnewb> so frustrating
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> newbnewb whatever went wrong durin installation, all should work out of the box
[23:00] <newbnewb> i thought it should....everything is a mess
[23:00] <malgorath> I have 4 drives in my computer not in use and I was thinking of raiding the, they are all same exact drive type. DOes anyone have a site or link that would help me with this?
[23:00] <newbnewb> i downloaded from the ubuntu site
[23:00] <Kenb52> newbnewb Its an Xwindows problem, but I am newb also
[23:00] <do0fY3> hi all
[23:00] <do0fY3> someone here who wants to help a noob with 1 or 2 thing? :D
[23:00] <Pazooza> Mine does, v37.0.1 from mirrors
[23:01] <newbnewb> EricC.....the Applications Icon we made and put in the dock....it doesnt behave the same now
[23:01] <newbnewb> I open it and it acts just like the nautilus icon...taking me to home
[23:02] <do0fY3> i need help formatting and mouting 2 drives on a ubuntu machine
[23:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did it work before?
[23:03] <newbnewb> yes
[23:03] <newbnewb> no idea what happened
[23:03] <newbnewb> I didnt do anything but open it
[23:03] <Kenb52> Deja dup, if you copy around the backup you have to go into location and select the right one, and it seems to list the same hard drive twice, the top one seems to work however.
[23:04] <newbnewb> this is ridiculous
[23:04] <newbnewb> ubuntu was supposed to be newbie friendly
[23:05] <tgm4883> newbnewb: what are you trying to do?
[23:05] <Kenb52> do0fy3: are you installing Ubuntu or just installing more storage drives?
[23:05] <newbnewb> tgm4883 EricC has been helping me all day long....the software manager and software updater were broken....i tried reinstalling a few times....he fixed it but not without troubles
[23:06] <do0fY3> no, i installed zentyal on an ssd. there are 2 more 4TB hdds in there and i want them to perma mount and use them as network storage
[23:06] <tgm4883> newbnewb: something tells me I don't even want to touch this
[23:06] <do0fY3> but i dont even understand how to get them running :D
[23:06] <newbnewb> now I am tyring to put folders in the dock....for apps, music, photos etc so I have easy access to all those at top level
[23:06] <Kenb52> Disk Utility is by far the best way to do stuff rather than GPARTED which will not allow you to own the hard drive after formatting it.
[23:07] <newbnewb> i do exactly what I am told...the outputs don't make sense often...something does work then it breaks suddenly later...I cant even get things stable to start learning
[23:07] <compdoc> newbnewb, those things dont break by themselves, for no reason
[23:07] <newbnewb> they have
[23:07] <newbnewb> everyone says that....then it happens and they say "hmm that doesn make sense"
[23:07] <tgm4883> newbnewb: no... they don't
[23:07] <do0fY3> disk utility? on console?
[23:08] <do0fY3> or via zentyal backend?
[23:08] <newbnewb> tgm...my point is i do something I am told....if it works then it seems to stop later
[23:08] <Kenb52> What makes sense to 1 person does not make sense to all'
[23:08] <newbnewb> this apps folder is an example
[23:08] <tgm4883> newbnewb: so I'm guessing that just right clicking the nautilus icon and clicking on what you want to access is too much?
[23:08] <newbnewb> he helped me create it...put it in doc...it did what I wanted
[23:08] <Kenb52> Can be too much.
[23:08] <newbnewb> its not to much but I simply want to cut one click out and have them on the dock like OSX
[23:08] <newbnewb> its just preference....and I dont know why its so complicated
[23:09] <newbnewb> we did it...it worked...now it doesnt
[23:09] <do0fY3> can someone tell me how to permanent mound sdc oder sdb to a folder?
[23:09] <newbnewb> all I did was open it and close it...second time I opened it something different came up
[23:09] <Kenb52> Hmm my Vizio TV/Monitor does NOT like me turning on my FL gooseneck lamp. It causes the monitor to black out for a second.
[23:09] <newbnewb> EricC are you still here?
[23:09] <tgm4883> newbnewb: I've got to head home soon, but can you pastebin what is in that file?
[23:10] <newbnewb> tgm I dont know what pastebin means....I am brand new...and have spent 3 days trying to get installed and set up
[23:10] <newbnewb> and its still wonky
[23:11] <newbnewb> everyone tells me different commands or advice....80% doesnt work...then people get irritated at me
[23:11] <tgm4883> !pastebin | newbnewb
[23:11] <newbnewb> i just wanted to install...and learn
[23:11] <Kenb52> So does anyone know how to make Clementine music player, to see the bookmarked shares ??
[23:12] <Kenb52> Only when system is first booted. You open PCMANFM and after that it is fine.
[23:12] <newbnewb> i dont even understand what I a supposed to paste.....shit
[23:12] <newbnewb> three days of this is gotten me bruned out
[23:13] <tgm4883> newbnewb: the contents of the file that is no longer working
[23:13] <newbnewb> i deleted it from the dock since it didnt work...so I cant do that
[23:13] <daved_> Hi--I have LVM questions about how to re-size the filesystem folders. Anybody able to help?
[23:14] <newbnewb> it was an icon that looked like a file cabinet...just like Nautlus....and instead of nautlius it was named applications and opened to all the apps visible in a window
[23:14] <tgm4883> newbnewb: I'm honestly now sure what you want from us then. If you are just going to moan and complain please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:14] <EriC^^> newbnewb: if you want a dock like mac and easy access icons you could install cairo-dock
[23:14] <Kenb52> How do I automount shares in PCMANFM?
[23:14] <newbnewb> tgm I am not JUST moaning jesus
[23:14] <newbnewb> things dont work...then I get told I am wrong
[23:14] <newbnewb> im doing what I am told....exactly
[23:15] <newbnewb> thanks eric
[23:15] <newbnewb> will try...hopefully it will work
[23:15] <tgm4883> newbnewb: I ask you to post some stuff, you don't have anything to post. You can't tell me what you are trying to do now, it's time to go home, so I'm out
[23:16] <newbnewb> I told you and you are more interested in telling me what I am doing wrong in your eyes like most here
[23:16] <newbnewb> EricC is the only one helping
[23:16] <bazhang> newbnewb, stop that
[23:17] <newbnewb> he has been more than patient....others just want to tell me why I am wrong
[23:17] <bazhang> newbnewb, many are helping you here
[23:17] <newbnewb> who?
[23:17] <Kenb52> I find the google searched stuff is usually wrong. I guess that Gigolo is the only really simple workaround to get this done.
[23:17] <newbnewb> EricC is only one who fixed anything and it took all day....
[23:17] <bazhang> newbnewb, but you are not giving us the info we need
[23:17] <newbnewb> i give what I can and what I know
[23:17] <newbnewb> i explain my limits and people still wont accept
[23:18] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i got it working here
[23:18] <newbnewb> EricC cairo?
[23:18] <EriC^^> no the applications icon in the launcher
[23:18] <newbnewb> oh
[23:18] <newbnewb> i dont know what changed
[23:18] <newbnewb> it worked for me too
[23:18] <EriC^^> i had to add it twice though
[23:18] <newbnewb> then second opening of it suddenly it acted like nautilus icon
[23:19] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:19] <EriC^^> mine turned both into applications icons
[23:19] <newbnewb> if I use cairo can I just drag and drop those folders?
[23:19] <EriC^^> so i unlocked them from the launcher and readded and they worked
[23:19] <newbnewb> rather than all this CLI stuff?
[23:19] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i've only used cairo shortly then uninstalled
[23:19] <EriC^^> but i remember it had alot of customization stuff
[23:19] <newbnewb> its chinese to me what we did to get it on the dock...I couldnt repeat it alone
[23:19] <newbnewb> ok
[23:20] <newbnewb> if it works how can I shut off the unity launcher dock so I dont have two docks
[23:20] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you could try to add it back and see if it works
[23:20] <EriC^^> if you're keen on using the launcher
[23:20] <EriC^^> or you could give cairo a shot
[23:21] <newbnewb> EricC I could never manage again....without step by step instructions
[23:21] <newbnewb> and I am sure yuou are as sick of this as me
[23:21] <Kenb52> Anyone know of a better desktop icon organizer?
[23:21] <EriC^^> newbnewb: just type nautilus /usr/share/applications and drag it to the launcher
[23:22] <newbnewb> there is nothing to drag
[23:22] <newbnewb> it just opens a nautlius window with all the apps showing....
[23:22] <newbnewb> no icon for just apps is created
[23:22] <EriC^^> anyways it seems like a bad idea
[23:23] <EriC^^> i'm noticing the icon flashes red and stalls if you have both open etc.
[23:23] <EriC^^> cairo would be better i guess, try it out
[23:23] <newbnewb> if i just drag the apps icon from within the folder with all apps showing it just creates another nautilus file cabinet
[23:24] <newbnewb> ok so if I use cairo how do I shut off the unity launcher so I dont have two docks
[23:24] <EriC^^> if you hover over it does it say applications or files?
[23:25] <newbnewb> applicaitons...and now my normal nautilus file is gone
[23:26] <newbnewb> all I have is the one saying applications but that opens to what nautilus opened to...the home folder
[23:26] <newbnewb> wtf
[23:26] <newbnewb> I put the new applications icon in the dock like you said...and nautilus disappeared
[23:27] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i think you have to unlock both and add them
[23:27] <EriC^^> but anyways i dont like it
[23:27] <EriC^^> nautilus hangs for a bit before opening
[23:27] <EriC^^> use cairo-dock instead
[23:27] <newbnewb> I dont know how
[23:27] <newbnewb> nautilus is gone now
[23:27] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
[23:27] <limpc> i have a very annoying problem. im trying to install ubuntu 14.04.2 on a machine. but it keeps failing when trying to install grub, with "the 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install to /target/."
[23:27] <EriC^^> newbnewb: open the dash and type files and drag it there
[23:28] <EriC^^> then type sudo rm /usr/share/applications/allapps.desktop
[23:28] <newbnewb> there are two iterations of it along with the applications file in the search results
[23:28] <EriC^^> add the one that says files alone
[23:29] <newbnewb> two of them say files...does it matter which?
[23:29] <EriC^^> newbnewb: try clicking on one and see if it works right
[23:29] <EriC^^> i have a files and files-gksu
[23:30] <newbnewb> they both work
[23:30] <newbnewb> they are identical
[23:30] <newbnewb> somehow I created two
[23:30] <EriC^^> maybe you used the mymusic.desktop before?
[23:30] <newbnewb> i dont know..im so confused now
[23:30] <EriC^^> type ls -l /usr/share/applications | grep music
[23:30] <newbnewb> how do I delete the second one?
[23:30] <newbnewb> i dont even know where it is as I dont udnerstand the file structure
[23:31] <bazhang> !fhs
[23:31] <bazhang> newbnewb, ^
[23:32] <newbnewb> EricC how do I delete the second Files?
[23:32] <newbnewb> so I dont have two when I search
[23:32] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you type ls -l /usr/share...?
[23:32] <newbnewb> when?
[23:32] <newbnewb> should I do that now?
[23:32] <EriC^^> type ls -l /usr/share/applications | grep music
[23:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:33] <newbnewb> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 688 Apr 13 17:22 mymusic.desktop toshiba@toshibalaptop:/usr/share/applications$
[23:33] <eric__> i dont speak english
[23:33] <eric__> portuguese...
[23:33] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo rm /usr/share/applications/mymusic.desktop
[23:33] <limpc> no suggestions anyone?
[23:33] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ^
[23:34] <twiler> Is EriC still here?
[23:34] <newbnewb> nothing happened
[23:34] <twiler> I told him I'd be back on in 20 minutes over an hour ago :(
[23:35] <twiler> Something came up...
[23:35] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok
[23:35] <EriC^^> hey twiler ..
[23:36] <newbnewb> i just want to get it back to as it was now....how do I do that?
[23:36] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it shouldn't be there anymore
[23:36] <newbnewb> to get rid of the second files
[23:36] <newbnewb> it is
[23:36] <newbnewb> of course
[23:37] <newbnewb> ok I am done....im exhausted and have bothered you all day and its still wonky
[23:37] <newbnewb> im sorry
[23:37] <newbnewb> i really appreciate your kindness
[23:37] <newbnewb> i dont have endurance and patience to spend hours and hours just to get something to a baseline to START learning
[23:38] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it was deleted?
[23:38] <newbnewb> EricC thank you for being so kind
[23:38] <newbnewb> no its there
[23:38] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you still have 2 files?
[23:38] <newbnewb> but I am fried so I am going....thanks for all
[23:39] <newbnewb> maybe I will try again anotehr time
[23:39] <newbnewb> you are very patient and kind
[23:39] <limpc> ive been struggling with this problem since last night
[23:39] <limpc> its my main machine, so i cant work, this is pissing me off
[23:39] <EriC^^> limpc: what's the problem?
[23:40] <limpc> im trying to install ubuntu 14.04.2 on a machine. but it keeps failing when trying to install grub, with "the 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install to /target/."
[23:40] <EriC^^> limpc: anything special about the setup?
[23:41] <limpc> its got an uefi bios. but theres no option to enable/disable secure boot
[23:41] <EriC^^> limpc: dual boot/
[23:41] <EriC^^> ?
[23:41] <limpc> i had ubuntu on this same drive and same machine before. i dont get why i suddenly cant install.
[23:41] <limpc> no.
[23:41] <EriC^^> are you manually partitioning?
[23:42] <limpc> i let the installer auto partition the first 3 times. tried manual the 3rd
[23:42] <limpc> er 4th
[23:42] <EriC^^> ok did you make an efi partition and set the mountpoint and whatnot
[23:42] <limpc> yes
[23:43] <limpc> 550mb efi /boot rest are ext4
[23:43] <EriC^^> did you checksum the iso?
[23:43] <limpc> the installer runs fine? i can run the check though hd on
[23:43] <EriC^^> ok checksum the iso
[23:47] <limpc> no errors found on check
[23:47] <EriC^^> so the md5 match?
[23:47] <limpc> i ran the disk check in the installer
[23:47] <EriC^^> ok
[23:47] <EriC^^> boot the live usb
[23:47] <limpc> into full desktop (try) or installer?
[23:48] <EriC^^> try
[23:48] <limpc> k. its xubuntu btw in case that matters.
[23:49] <limpc> its up.
[23:49] <EriC^^> ok type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:49] <EriC^^> then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:50] <limpc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819272/
[23:53] <limpc> EriC^^, see my link?
[23:53] <EriC^^> limpc: type gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit
[23:53] <daved_> I need to re-size some system folders in an LVM disk, and I do't know how
[23:54] <limpc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819285/
[23:54] <jmg> i just /part
[23:55] <EriC^^> limpc: type sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[23:57] <limpc> EriC^^, done. are you wanting me to run grub-install?
[23:58] <EriC^^> limpc: i'm not sure if the installation is complete when grub is installing
[23:59] <EriC^^> type pastebinit /mnt/etc/fstab
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-quality
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[14:10] <brendand> elopio, did you see that problem?
[14:13] <elopio> brendand: can you write a test that does global rect in a loop and checks that it's always the same?
[14:13] <elopio> this definitely has nothing to do with the sdk.
[14:14] <elopio> the problem has to be between autopilot and the shell. gerry did a hack on globalRect to take into account the indicators bar. That might be related too.
[14:16] <elopio> brendand: also, I didn't bring a mako. Can you reproduce that on krillin?
[14:17] <brendand> elopio, haven't tried on krillin yet. will do
[14:17] <elopio> brendand: if you make a branch with the test, I can debug on krillin here.
[14:33] <brendand> elopio, yeah i'll aim to do that by eod
[14:43] <elopio> pitti: do you have a link to the snappy specs you mentioned?
[14:44] <pitti> elopio: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oNYSBInP9CW1tJNnixiddPnPEah0_XMOTPaaLzltoVc/edit
[14:44] <brendand> elopio, indeed it doesn't fail on krillin
[14:44] <elopio> brendand: crazy shit.
[14:44] <brendand> elopio, maybe i'll go take some drugs, see if it makes sense then
[14:44] <elopio> I should have brought my mako.
[14:44] <elopio> brendand: drugs are always the way!
[14:45] <pitti> elopio: under "snappy security for snaps"
[14:45] <brendand> elopio, i know but i keep getting in trouble when i put them on my expense report :/
[14:46] <brendand> elopio, i'll go back to mako now and see what i can figure out
[14:51] <elopio> brendand: if you get that loop failing reliably, please send an email to veebers and gerry.
[15:04] <brendand> elopio, i'm thinking now it's to do with the indicator bar
[15:08] <elopio> brendand: what gerry did was basicaly to patch the globalRect so it adds up the bar size in case it's visible.
[15:08] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Are you available?
[15:08] <brendand> elopio, something is wrong with that
[15:08] <elfy> flexiondotorg: I am
[15:09] <brendand> elopio, some assumptions were made based on krillin i guess
[15:10] <brendand> elopio, i need to investigate more before i can explain it properly
[15:10] <elopio> brendand: this sounds interesting. Thanks for taking care of it, I would have never imagined globalRect being wrong.
[15:10] <brendand> elopio, it looks like in some circumstances the test runs with a different gu setting?
[15:10] <brendand> elopio, and then it works
[15:10] <elopio> brendand: ohhh
[15:11] <elopio> brendand: we are patching the gu for the test.
[15:11] <brendand> elopio, oooooh
[15:11] <brendand> :o
[15:11] <elopio> but the gu used to get the size of the globalRect shouldn't be patched.
[15:11] <elopio> hum
[15:12] <elopio> brendand: ok, if you are sure that's the problem, then it makes sense to do the test at a lower level.
[15:12] <elopio> don't use autopilot at all.
[15:12] <brendand> elopio, you're using the InitCtlEnv fixture to set that?
[15:12] <elopio> brendand: yes.
[15:13] <elopio> or an alternative would be to restart unity so it takes the new GU.
[15:13] <brendand> elopio, yeah it works if unity restarts
[15:15] <brendand> elopio, ubuntu-ui-toolkit so far doesn't have any python unit tests right?
[15:15] <brendand> elopio, was trying to find a place to put a unit test but didn't see any
[15:16] <elopio> brendand: I would put it in the same place, just not inherit from autopilot.
[15:16] <brendand> elopio, ok
[15:16] <elopio> I knew I was doing something stupid.
[15:23] <brendand> elopio, but it seems we have uncovered a problem though so maybe working around it isn't ideal?
[15:23] <brendand> elopio, doesn't this show an issue with gerrys code?
[15:23] <elopio> brendand: yes, it's a known hack that they need to remove.
[15:23] <elopio> brendand: let me try to find more information.
[15:24] <brendand> elopio, i mean i can easily write a unit test and get this landed but it seems like it's not the whole story
[15:24] <elopio> if I remember correctly, this will miserably fail when we have non-maximized windows.
[15:25] <elopio> brendand: for now, this is not going to bite us. But maybe it raises the priority for them to remove the hack.
[15:26] <elopio> brendand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtmir/+bug/1422523
[15:27] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1346633
[15:38] <brendand> elopio, have a look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~brendan-donegan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/grid_units_unit_test/revision/1422 and tell me if you think it's adequate...
[15:39] <elopio> brendand: it's good.
[15:41] <brendand> elopio, ok to overwrite your branch?
[15:41] <elopio> brendand: my branch is owned by the team. It means you can do with it anything you like.
[15:42] <brendand> elopio, well yes. but #courtesy :)
[15:42] <brendand> ok now to wait for jenkins results
[15:43] <brendand> hopefully it won't be too difficult to land the other two branches from here
[15:43] <brendand> elopio, this problem won't impact the other merge proposals?
[15:44] <elopio> brendand: no. This only means that we will be able to express the y from the bottom in gu.
[15:45] <elopio> in the tests with a gu env var change, we restart unity.
[15:56] <brendand> elopio, would be good to get your review for https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/grid_units/+merge/248980 again
[16:01] <elopio> brendand: +1. You can ping timp to get a review.
[16:01] <elopio> he's the one who requested this.
[16:14] <t1mp> brendand, elopio: I'll check it
[16:26] <t1mp> brendand: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/grid_units/+merge/248980 looks good
[16:26] <t1mp> brendand: if it is done like this, I'll top-approve
[18:33] <brendand> t1mp, there were some flake8 issues in https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/grid_units/+merge/248980, fixed now, if you can re top-approve
[18:40] <jodh> elopio: hi - no idea what errors you are referring to, but have you read the snappy test doc yet? https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1R_Tw0N0QbEpjFeYf9XnVV8Gp8ldT2Ig0PO6MfR-kuSM/edit#heading=h.axacykx0hozl
[18:46] <elopio> jodh: I haven't. Thanks for the pointer.
[18:46] <elopio> jodh: I was just wondering what kind of errors have you encountered while running tests manually. Like links to a couple of bugs you have reported would be nice.
[18:54] <balloons> elfy, wow, so the images are still having issues? This is what you get for going away
[18:59] <elopio> nuclearbob: do you have a link to the current sprint's backlog? I can't find it.
[18:59] <nuclearbob> elopio: there's the sprint backlog lane here: https://trello.com/b/8dD0UPNl/qa-stakeholders-backlog
[18:59] <nuclearbob> that's the one I have
[19:03] <elopio> nuclearbob: found it https://trello.com/b/YDGg3VF0/sprint-2015-qa-6
[19:04] <nuclearbob> elopio: oh, thanks. That's useful
[19:04] <jodh> elopio: take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/10817742/. I'll add some more details to the gdoc above on the upgrader as it may be useful to you...
[19:04] <elopio> jodh: that's perfect, thanks.
[19:07] <elopio> jfunk: I'm going to add to the CI backlog a card for running the ubuntu-ota-tests.
[19:07] <jfunk> sure ping when it's ready
[19:07] <jfunk> let's talk about it
[19:07] <elopio> Ursinha: can you please remind me of the process? Should I just add a card, or tell you and ev first?
[19:08] <jfunk> elopio: I'd also like to talk about how to run them regularly until they are up and running in CI
[19:09] <elopio> jfunk: should be the same as the sanity. But probably it becomes too much for only one person to run it all, so we might need to rotate.
[19:09] <elopio> nuclearbob: how much time is it taking for you to run the sanity daily?
[19:09] <jfunk> and where are the results
[19:09] <jfunk> nuclearbob: ^
[19:11] <nuclearbob> elopio: I've been running it while I'm running power stuff on another device. Right now the results are just stored locally, but one of my tasks today is creating a spreadsheet to upload that. My existing results are formatted to go into it, and I'll link it before I EOD
[19:16] <jodh> elopio: see "Further Information" at the end of https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1R_Tw0N0QbEpjFeYf9XnVV8Gp8ldT2Ig0PO6MfR-kuSM/edit#
[19:17] <elopio> sorry, wrong button.
[19:17] <elopio> jodh: got it. Thanks!
[19:34] <t1mp> brendand: okay. I happroved https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/grid_units/+merge/248980 again
[19:46] <jodh> elopio: fyi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1424586
[21:26] <Ursinha> elopio: send us an email and we'll get to you asap :)
[22:20] <veebers> hey, re: the provisioning in the doc, for the sanity tests it's expected that the networking is setup before being run, but the notes say the opposite
[22:24] <elopio> veebers: the sanity is able to provision the network.
[22:24] <elopio> what we discussed here after looking the provisioning script for boottest is that the least CI does during provisioning, the better for us.
[22:25] <elopio> because on that script they are disabling the wizard, which we want to test. And they are making the image writable, which we don't want to do.
[22:26] <veebers> elopio: the readme in the sanity suite states: The test suite requires that a network is available to download the test
[22:26] <veebers> dependencies (see `Setup the network using phablet-network`_).
[22:28] <elopio> veebers: there must be a network for the phone to connect to. But if the phone is not connected to that network, we can call the sanity with --network so it connects.
[22:29] <elopio> veebers: actually, lets roll back. Do you think setting up the phone network should be a task of the provisioning tool, or a task for the test?
[22:30] <veebers> elopio: there needs to be a network connection before the tests right, for adb to d/l all the req. deps.
[22:30] <elopio> veebers: it depends on how you define a test. When does the test start, when we run ubuntu-sanity-test, or when we run adt-run?
[22:30] <elopio> we need the network to be set up before adt-run. But not before calling ubuntu-sanity-test --network.
[22:31] <veebers> elopio: well, I would say that the tests are called 'test_<blah>' anything else is the wrapper :-) So maybe the wrapper should provision the network before adt-run gets called
[22:32] <veebers> I had failed to realise that there was the --network option
[22:32] <elopio> veebers: right.
[22:32] <elopio> so we have two types of provisioning.
[22:32] <elopio> there are three steps:
[22:32] <veebers> so ultimately either phablet-netowrk or --network needs to get called
[22:33] <elopio> 1. get me a free device, mako, devel, image #
[22:33] <elopio> 2. set up the job: set up the network, create the config file.
[22:34] <elopio> 3. run the test.
[22:34] <elopio> what we discussed was that step 1 is CIs job.
[22:34] <elopio> steps 2 and 3 are our job.
[22:35] <veebers> elopio: when you say "set up the job" is that the header for the next 2 steps or are you saying that we'll create the jenkins/whatever job config and have to maintain that?
[22:36] <elopio> but there are many other ways to split the three steps. So your input here is useful.
[22:36] <elopio> veebers: hum, yes, I guess taking care of step #2 will also mean that we maintain the jenkins job
[22:38] <elopio> at least now it's clear that this section in the document needs to be cleared :)
[22:38] <veebers> elopio: that makes me a little nervous as that's outside our normal operations (creating, maintaining jenkins job) but perhaps that's just because we haven't needed to yet
[22:38] <veebers> yeah :-)
[22:38] <elopio> veebers: what I would like to know is where do you think that the line between CI and QA should be.
[22:39] <veebers> a suggestion would be for us to provide a mechanism (a script I guess) that generates a config file and you pass it the serial, the wifi details.
[22:39] <veebers> so then CI could create a job that does 1. then calls this script passing the details needed, then runs the test
[22:40] <veebers> I'm not sure if either team as a 'decree' or whatever, but my (possibly incorrect) understanding is that CI is tasked with automating established test suites (among other things of course)
[22:42] <elopio> veebers: that sounds ok. We give CI all the commands needed to run the test.
[22:42] <elopio> and they put it in a job.
[22:43] <veebers> elopio: right, we should work closely with them though, I don't like the idea of throwing this stuff over the wall and expecting them to sort it out (and vice versa)
[22:44] <elopio> veebers: yes, I agree with everything you have said.
[22:45] <elopio> veebers: the problem we found was that steps 1 and 2 were in the same script, not easy to modify.
[22:47] <veebers> right, we should be able to resolve that easily though
[22:47] <elopio> so we didn't actually discussed how step 2 should be. Just that they should be separated.
[22:49] <elopio> veebers: on the case of boottest, it's actually not that easy. The script they have is pretty big.
[22:51] <veebers> elopio: remind which the boottest is?
[23:03] <elopio> veebers: the boottest flashes a device, and uses adt-run to execute "ls" in the device.
[23:03] <veebers> elopio: ah right, I was a little confused which test it was (still thinking of the sanity tests)
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:31] <hoxily> 早
[00:54] <ZCCCCCC> 卧槽
[00:54] <ZCCCCCC> 昵称又换了
[00:54] <ZCCCCCC> 坑爹啊
[01:00] <hoxily> hoxbot111: quit()
[01:09] <jusss> hoxily: 今天挤地铁差点把笔记本和手机挤坏了，擦擦擦
[01:17] <hoxily> 包包背前面啊
[01:17] <hoxily> jusss: 背后面容易受到挤压
[01:18] <ZCCCCCC> 卧槽
[01:18] <ZCCCCCC> jusss 帝都地铁比上海还坑
[01:18] <ZCCCCCC> 摩擦摩擦
[01:19] <jusss> hoxily: 举起来了，在进去时被旁边的栏杆卡了下，在那挤了下，差点挤坏了
[01:20] <jusss> 擦擦擦我
[01:22] <gfxmode> ASUS的笔记本太薄，我屏幕被挤坏过
[01:22] <gfxmode> 小心电脑屏幕
[01:37] <jusss> 我的也是asus，厚沉重，没被挤坏
[01:37] <ZCCCCCC> juss 我的mac还好
[01:37] <ZCCCCCC> 不用担心被挤坏
[01:38] <ZCCCCCC> 摔了一下，角都撞卷起来了，依然没坏
[01:38] <jusss> 不过手机和笔记本屏幕上都多了一条横印，擦擦擦
[01:39] <ZCCCCCC> 什么横印
[01:41] <jusss> gfxmode: 一般公司试用期需要自己带电脑吗
[01:44] <ZCCCCCC> 你带电脑要做什么
[01:44] <ZCCCCCC> 你什么公司啊
[01:47] <jiero> jusss: 说明公司资源不足。或者不特别保密。
[01:47] <jiero> ZCCCCCC: 有的公司没啥秘密的。
[01:48] <ZCCCCCC> －－
[01:49] <gfxmode> jusss: 我们这边试用期不需要自己带电脑
[01:50] <jusss> gfxmode: 哦
[01:54] <hoxily> QQ钻皇，QQ世界最尊贵身份——QQ钻皇，共享超过270项特权，更有9大专属特权，让您畅享互联世界。
[01:56] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 在？
[01:56] <BuMangHuo> jiero: http://img03.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i3/1043627683/TB2WvSEXVXXXXbpXXXXXXXXXXXX-1043627683.jpg
[01:57] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 怎么了？
[01:57] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 不对啊，这个箱子，你看看 20 吋的大小
[01:57] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 差不多啊。
[01:57] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 长 35cm 高 55cm
[01:57] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 瞎扯
[01:57] <BuMangHuo> jiero: https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&q=sqrt(35^2+55^2)cm=?in&oq=sqrt(35^2+55^2)cm=?in&gs_l=serp.3..19.350187.350697.0.351496.2.2.0.0.0.0.397.397.3-1.1.0.msedr...0...1c.1.64.serp..1.1.397.vA9kOXNR618
[01:58] <BuMangHuo> jiero: sqrt(35^2+55^2)cm=?in => 25.666 啊
[01:58] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 能告诉我有没有比 GNOME的 calc 更好用的计算器软件？
[01:58] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 不论是 windows android kde 默认都太扯
[01:58] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 我的箱子今天早上量了一下， 长 35cm, 高 50cm， 算出来刚好 24寸啊
[01:59] <hoxily> http://jifen.qq.com/mall/mall.shtml?id=2050
[01:59] <^k^> hoxily: ⇪ QQ积分
[01:59] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 那就是对方错了。垃圾
[01:59] <hoxily> jusss: 这个好厉害
[01:59] <hoxily> jusss: 不需要 燃气，纯靠电弧点燃
[02:00] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 你买啥，什么要求？
[02:00] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 我当时就随意买了个。139元。
[02:01] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 我想买个比我的这个大一点儿的箱子
[02:01] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 不知道尺寸到底多少
[02:01] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 我好奇，是不是内部尺寸22？
[02:01] <onlylove> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43664
[02:01] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | 分析进攻性的大炮
[02:01] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 按对角线算，我的那个刚好是 24 啊
[02:02] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 所以我现在不清楚到底买 24 还是 多少的了
[02:02] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 那就买更大的
[02:02] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 可是淘宝卖家的尺寸规格里面，我的那个大小是 20吋
[02:02] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: http://img03.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i3/1043627683/TB2WvSEXVXXXXbpXXXXXXXXXXXX-1043627683.jpg 你看看这个
[02:02] <jusss> hoxily: 我在纠结lisp in bash
[02:03] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 额，你按照他的尺寸来要不？
[02:03] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 我的意思是，箱子的尺寸到底是怎么算的
[02:03] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 中国的标准一向混乱哈。
[02:03] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 你找通用尺寸算法？这个像专用的
[02:04] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 反正错了，也没惩罚
[02:04] <onlylove> jiero: 滚
[02:04] <jiero> onlylove: 滚
[02:04] <onlylove> jiero: 鞋子还美国一个，法国一个，中国一个呢，我买了双鞋，上面5个尺码
[02:04] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 可是有的箱子它卖的时候只有寸，没有 cm 的规格哇
[02:04] <onlylove> jiero: 动不动就中国标准混乱，你咋不说美国混乱
[02:05] <jiero> onlylove 和美国有啥关系！！
[02:05] <onlylove> jiero: 那中国的标准混乱在哪里？
[02:05] <jiero> onlylove 同样 20寸 差异超级大。。。
[02:05] <hoxily> http://gd1.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/2406665954/TB2H69iXVXXXXb2XpXXXXXXXXXX_!!2406665954.jpg
[02:06] <freeflying> BuMangHuo, ubuntu下用啥抓cd音轨
[02:06] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 不知道啊。。。
[02:07] <jiero> freeflying: 你还有cd。。。
[02:07] <onlylove> jiero: 你不执行标准，叫中国的标准一向混乱，呵呵
[02:07] <onlylove> freeflying: gnome下面有个叫cd榨汁机的东西？
[02:07] <jiero> onlylove: 不强制要求的标准算啥？
[02:08] <onlylove> jiero: 推荐标准
[02:08] <freeflying> onlylove, 叫啥名字
[02:08] <onlylove> freeflying: 我记得中文名就叫CD榨汁机
[02:08] <jiero> onlylove: 22寸和24寸和20寸没差别算啥？
[02:09] <onlylove> jiero: 偷工减料
[02:09] <jiero> onlylove: 。。。
[02:09] <onlylove> jiero: 标准是死的
[02:09] <onlylove> jiero: 不按标准做不叫标准混乱
[02:09] <BuMangHuo> freeflying: 我都没有 cd
[02:09] <jiero> onlylove: 叫什么？市场虚标？
[02:09] <onlylove> jiero: 没事别犯傻，大家都知道哪个方向是北，我非要说那是西北
[02:09] <BuMangHuo> ji
[02:10] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 其实我在 linux 一直没有找到一个好用的计算器啊
[02:10] <onlylove> jiero: 市场上的虚标还少？看看电脑电源就知道了
[02:10] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 20寸：长50cm* 宽34cm* 高19cm?
[02:11] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 对啊，我量了下我的箱子就是这样大
[02:11] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 这个问题在于，他没说从里面还是从外面
[02:11] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 还没算轮子
[02:11] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 算了
[02:11] <jiero> onlylove: 有标准木 - 查查
[02:11] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 他算轮子 55cm 高
[02:11] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 我量的不算轮子 50cm
[02:12] <BuMangHuo> 。。。 话说讨论轮子会不会被监控
[02:13] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: http://wenku.baidu.com/link?url=5JvseCAyx9R3k7k7WooMsngjVFSGpOkNNQTV1FmoZmJXBwAbWKY6ayOv0xYbTLCF0OE7iLWRcJZngKMk7_AA9BYOc0-XyvyewaWGUEnwzWi
[02:13] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 旅行箱的尺寸、使用及挑选详细介绍_百度文库
[02:13] <freeflying> BuMangHuo, 写一个
[02:13] <freeflying> BuMangHuo, 给ubuntu phone写个，马克会送个手机给你
[02:13] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 轮子是什么？
[02:14] <gfxmode> 买万向轮的旅行箱方便一点，我之前的不是万向轮
[02:14] <gfxmode> freeflying: 我现在一般用Python当计算器用
[02:15] <iIlL10Oo> 运行 irb
[02:15] <jiero> freeflying: rhythmbox
[02:15] <onlylove> freeflying: http://blog.renren.com/share/285214429/8335988331
[02:15] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Linux下的CD抓轨及编码 – 【人人分享-人人网】
[02:15] <ZCCCCCC> http://weibo.com/11931406/home?topnav=1&wvr=6
[02:15] <^k^> ZCCCCCC: ⇪ Sina Visitor System
[02:15] <gfxmode> 只是有些时候，Python会把0.2 + 0.1 = 0.30000000000000004
[02:15] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 买了要勤退 - 不好用就要退，所以早买，早拼单，一下买多个。然后当面验货退货。
[02:15] <BuMangHuo> gfxmode: 我现在发现万向轮一点都不方便
[02:16] <gfxmode> BuMangHuo: ？
[02:16] <BuMangHuo> gfxmode: 至少我觉得现在的带万向轮的箱子应该加一个刹车装置
[02:16] <BuMangHuo> gfxmode: 比如我带着箱子坐公交车，箱子放车上空的地方，只要车一晃动，它就乱跑
[02:16] <BuMangHuo> gfxmode: 这一点太不合理了吧
[02:17] <jusss`> 想把lisp的代码和数据互换的方法在bash里用用,
[02:17] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 应该箱子附带一个绑定装置，绑在身上直接正常走路就好了
[02:18] <gfxmode> BuMangHuo: 侧放或平放吧。加刹车片的箱子，感觉太高大上了
[02:18] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 虽然是这样 - 但是你竟然能找到空位- 我都是坐在箱子上！
[02:18] <iIlL10Oo> > 0.1 + 0.2
[02:18] <^k^> iIlL10Oo: 0.30000000000000004
[02:19] <jiero> > 0.3+ 0.9
[02:19] <^k^> jiero: 1.2
[02:19] <onlylove_> 我觉得我需要买双拖鞋放工位了
[02:20] <jiero> > 0.3 + 0.9
[02:20] <jiero> 额。为啥难道是 iIlL10Oo的bot
[02:20] <^k^> jiero: 1.2
[02:20] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 有时候会有一串0
[02:21] <onlylove_> >90000000+0.00000001
[02:21] <onlylove_> > 90000000+0.00000001
[02:21] <^k^> onlylove_: 90000000.00000001
[02:21] <jiero> onlylove: 买，反正拖鞋经常￥7~8一双包邮，最便宜的鞋子。。。
[02:22] <onlylove> > 90000000000000000000000+0.000000000000000000000000000001
[02:22] <^k^> onlylove: 9.0e+22
[02:23] <onlylove> 果然还是会忽略
[02:23] <onlylove> > 90000000000000000000000+0.1
[02:23] <^k^> onlylove: 9.0e+22
[02:23] <gfrog> BuMangHuo: 带着有刹车的箱子竟然坐公交？ 人家设计的时候根本没考虑这种状况吧
[02:23] <onlylove> iIlL10Oo: 精度不够啊
[02:24] <onlylove> > 90000000000000000000000+1
[02:24] <^k^> onlylove: 90000000000000000000001
[02:24] <iIlL10Oo> onlylove: 现实中，这种情况会有吗？
[02:25] <onlylove> 脚闷的难受，到底是鞋子的问题还是啥问题……难道到了穿凉鞋的时候了？
[02:27] <MSErgo4K> onlylove: 鞋子的问题.
[02:27] <MSErgo4K> onlylove: 买双轻量跑鞋就行了.
[02:27] <gfxmode> onlylove: 这种是二进制表示浮点数的精度问题，C语言输出也是这样的
[02:27] <MSErgo4K> onlylove: 我第一次穿的时候, 走路感觉鞋里的风嗖嗖的
[02:27] <jackness> onlylove: 你要买鞋子啊？
[02:28] <jusss> > 1469735486796301478^23
[02:29] <^k^> jusss: 1469735486796301489 => https://eval.in/312576
[02:29] <hoxily> hoxbot1: 1469735486796301478**23
[02:29] <hoxbot1> 7022652002558771211480675337798057908616254256090581432758489972881393472751199548947811695630882481676505602750005546564007837075891858205119148312550201066238104930894328193517984308560777862603805989162599076328906241961031291733059535454978195445780293544306521556327429995824779241896208349342117028941902132767260700380142322958870860855895869441587552639801742289796733882986362475762948570499912872415201329152
[02:29] <onlylove__> gfxmode: 我知道大多数程序都有这个问题，所以看下K有没有
[02:30] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 其实也不一定刹车啊，随便有个锁定装置就好啊
[02:30] <BuMangHuo> 只要别让乱跑就好了
[02:31] <gfxmode> 以后不买公路车了，买个带万向轮的箱子上路
[02:31] <hoxily> hoxbot1: decimal.Decimal('90000000000000000000000')+decimal.Decimal('0.000000000000000000000000000001')
[02:31] <hoxbot1> 90000000000000000000000.00000
[02:31] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 倒着放
[02:31] <BuMangHuo> 额
[02:32] <BuMangHuo> 好像是个思路，躺着放的话太占地方
[02:32] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4k|brb: brb 壕早啊
[02:33] <hoxily> hoxbot1: decimal.setcontext(decimal.Context(40)) or (decimal.Decimal('90000000000000000000000')+decimal.Decimal('0.000000000000000000000000000001'))
[02:33] <hoxbot1> 90000000000000000000000.00000000000000000
[02:34] <hoxily> hoxbot1: decimal.setcontext(decimal.Context(80)) or (decimal.Decimal('90000000000000000000000')+decimal.Decimal('0.000000000000000000000000000001'))
[02:34] <hoxbot1> 90000000000000000000000.000000000000000000000000000001
[02:38] <onlylove__> BuMangHuo: 别想了，如果轮上没锁定，还是抓着吧
[02:41] <onlylove__> windows真TM的事情多，昨天又杀毒浪费一晚上，结果毛没捉出来，我的NFS17躺着中枪
[02:41] <palomino|working> ...
[02:43] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing, 国航世界卡今年没羊毛了
[02:44] <roylez> freeflying: 壕又去哪玩去了？
[02:44] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 事情是这样的，我周五回家的时候，YY提示6点左右异地手机登陆，我没有手机YY，而且那个时间我是在等地铁，没可能上，所以我改密码了，然后昨晚上我又被别人踢下来了
[02:45] <freeflying> roylez, 苦逼上班啊
[02:45] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 然后我怀疑自己中奖了，然后……折腾到3点
[02:45] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 我严重怀疑欢聚的安全性
[02:45] <palomino|working> 欢聚是什么?_?
[02:46] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 欢聚时代，和YY的关系就像腾讯和QQ的关系
[02:46] <palomino|working> 哦...
[02:46] <palomino|working> 没用过..
[02:47] <onlylove__> 我觉得是时候扔掉PC捡起游戏机了
[02:47] <palomino|working> 像我一样单独弄个游戏pc
[02:47] <onlylove__> 一个连用户账号安全都不能保证的公司，要他何用
[02:48] <^k^> palomino|working: define:欢聚 not defined.
[02:48] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 不，我要PS1234
[02:48] <palomino|working> ...
[02:48] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 还有XBOX全系列，WII全系列
[02:48] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 至于steam么，听说那东西BUG不少
[02:48] <jiero> 谁知道 蓝牙3.0外置键盘和 4.0外置键盘是否对主机能耗有不同影响？
[02:49] <jiero> palomino|working: 破马知道吗？
[02:49] <jiero> palomino|working: 蓝牙3.0设备消耗主机更多吗？
[02:49] <onlylove__> jiero: 鱼唇，破马都不用键盘的
[02:49] <palomino|working> steam啊,天天用 onlylove__
[02:49] <palomino|working> 4.0更省电吧 jiero
[02:49] <palomino|working> 不过3.0也没感觉有多少消耗
[02:50] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 我听说那东西很多热键是写死的，然后游戏里面各种热键不能用
[02:50] <palomino|working> 哦,从来不用它的热键...
[02:50] <palomino|working> 只是拿它购买下载安装启动游戏罢了...
[02:56] <freeflying> tf卡现在快跟一次性的差不多了
[02:57] <jackness> tf卡是什么东西
[02:58] <palomino|working> 就是microsd
[03:01] <BuMangHuo> palomino|working: 壕
[03:01] <BuMangHuo> palomino|working: 单独游戏 pc
[03:01] <BuMangHuo> 在pad上玩了几天梦幻西游，玩不动了
[03:02] <onlylove__> BuMangHuo: 这算啥，土豪马还有高清专用，办公专用…………………………一堆
[03:02] <palomino|working> 其余高清/办公什么的的合并成1台了...
[03:04] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 壕
[03:04] <palomino|working> 还缺一台nas
[03:04] <freeflying> palomino|working, 还有台专门录制和小蜜爱爱的
[03:05] <palomino|working> 没有小蜜啊
[03:05] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing, 你的那照片打印机型号是啥
[03:05] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: cp910
[03:06] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing, 日元和欧元现在真够低的
[03:06] <jackness> 现在是互联网金融时代
[03:07] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 胖子好像也满低
[03:07] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 弄得我都想屯些胖子了
[03:08] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing, 胖子是啥
[03:08] <palomino|working> pounds
[03:08] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: pounds
[03:10] <kandu> onlylove__: 啥热键写死了？
[03:10] <onlylove__> kandu: 昨天在论坛看帖子看到的，不知道是啥
[03:10] <sennn> 今天买了个小米手环......
[03:11] <onlylove__> 快递咋还不来
[03:12] <sennn> 感觉不值......
[03:14] <jusss> onlylove__: 你买啥了
[03:14] <onlylove__> jusss: 买了件衬衣
[03:15] <O0XX> onlylove__: 买了个表
[03:15] <onlylove__> O0XX: 你有钱，我不能和你比
[03:15] <sennn> 谁买apple watch 谁二
[03:16] <sennn> 有钱任性,没钱认命
[03:16] <jusss> palomino|working: 不是pants吗？
[03:16] <O0XX> onlylove__: 有钱的人是 -> MSErgo4k BuMangHuo happyaron
[03:17] <onlylove__> O0XX: 那你发买了个表几个意思
[03:17] <onlylove__> O0XX: 我可以理解为骂人么
[03:17] <MSErgo4k> O0XX: ... ...
[03:17] <O0XX> onlylove__: 你猜
[03:18] <sennn> biao 表
[03:18] <jusss> onlylove__: 震我下电话，我不接，找个理由出去
[03:21] <onlylove> jusss: 1691那个？
[03:22] <jusss> onlylove: 对
[03:23] <jusss> onlylove: thanks
[03:23] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 收集到一枚日本邮票, 自动售票机打印出来的那种
[03:23] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 你去日本了？
[03:24] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 没有啊, 别人给我寄的东西
[03:24] <nyfair> 麻蛋，outlook发送25M附件要先上传到onedrive，巨硬这是跟g婊学的脑残了吧
[03:24] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: ……
[03:24] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 竟然还用邮票，不是ems么？
[03:24] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 是啊, 一个900yan的邮票
[03:24] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 壕
[03:25] <HowIsItGoing> nyfair: 拿邮件传base64 code效率差啊
[03:26] <nyfair> HowIsItGoing: 差啥，也就多1/4，又没差一个数量级
[03:26] <HowIsItGoing> nyfair: 差了25%，还不够多？
[03:26] <nyfair> 25%算啥
[03:27] <nyfair> 1g的文件也就多个250Mb，20s就下完了，比折腾网盘快多了
[03:29] <nyfair> 据说玻璃渣为了支持乌克兰的民主运动，把克里米亚人的大菠萝和山口山账号封了？
[03:30] <jusss> bash这间接执行好像又让我回到了当时学c的指针时的迷茫
[03:30] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 软件中心报错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469477 请大侠帮忙解答下,运行软件中心就会报这种错误,python已经更新了还是不行 dejya@dejya:/usr/bin$ software-center Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/software-center", line 36, in <module> from softwarecenter.utils import ( File "/usr/sha
[03:30] <^k^> ─> re/software-center/softwarecenter/utils.py", line 19, in <module> import dbus File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ …
[03:31] <jusss> nyfair: 乌克兰妹子好
[03:31] <jusss> 能推掉几个就爽了
[03:31] <jusss> 倒
[03:32] <palomino|working> ....带宽壕 nyfair
[03:34] <kingbo> hi
[03:34] <^k^> kingbo:点点点. 11:34
[03:35] <jusss> l1="echo hello"; l2="$l1"; l3="echo $l1"; $l1; $l2; $($l3);
[03:37] <jackness> 还是中国妹子漂亮
[03:37] <jackness> 我喜欢中国妹子
[03:45] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 帮内推个项目助理? 萌妹子, 简历里有照片.
[03:45] <kevinying> 水缸和牙签
[03:45] <freeflying> nyfair, 你的巨硬也成互联网公司了
[03:46] <sennn> Kio vi estas?
[03:46] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 对啊 发我简历就成
[03:46] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 应届生
[03:46] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 口以?
[03:46] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 所以是实习？
[03:46] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 不是鹅厂么？
[03:46] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 我司估计不招
[03:46] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 是鹅
[03:47] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 六月份就毕业了, 还实习??
[03:47] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 研究生？ 校招我还真不知道 得问问
[03:47] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 本科生, 问吧.
[03:47] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 哦 于是又是错过校招的呗。。。
[03:47] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 昂.
[03:48] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 又是考研失败的呗
[03:48] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 不是.
[03:48] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 这个妹子脑子正常.
[03:48] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 相比于去年那个来说
[03:49] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: if_else: 兄.
[03:50] <cherrot> MSErgo4k,lol
[03:50] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: if_else: 贵粗粮招聘不?
[03:50] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: lol~
[03:50] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 你也知道
[03:50] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 当然知道, 不然为啥扔过去
[03:50] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 我估计悬
[03:50] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 昂.
[03:50] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, =。= =。=
[03:50] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: lol~
[03:51] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: BuMangHuo: 改天一起出来吃饭啊
[03:51] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 哦草, 你跳槽成功了那顿饭还没请我和 BuMangHuo 呢!
[03:52] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 鹅厂都是走流程 校招补招我也问不到什么 只能靠已经入职的师兄们来确认组里是否还有hc
[03:52] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 4月份实习生招聘 9月份校招
[03:52] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 随便帮我问问你熟悉的组吧?
[03:52] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 那现在岂不是有实习生招聘?
[03:52] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 有的啊
[03:53] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 好.
[03:53] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 那就帮推实习生吧.
[03:53] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 其实他可以参加实习招聘 曾经有室友就是这么进去的
[03:53] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 昂.
[03:53] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 好.
[03:54] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 然后我再问问前同事们有木有招的
[03:54] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 好.
[03:54] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 项目助理？ 类似于产品经理和项目经理？
[03:54] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 那我转给你.
[03:54] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 昂, 产品助理
[03:55] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 刚说错了
[03:55] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 类似于打杂的产品经理
[03:55] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 嗯 你让他尝试一下实习生招聘
[03:55] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 就是, 产品经理的最低级别
[03:55] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 好.
[03:55] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 实习生内推只考虑技术岗 所以木有内推
[03:55] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 哦.
[03:55] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 只考虑北京吗
[03:56] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 对
[03:56] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 好的 我帮你问问
[03:56] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 给我介绍漂亮妹纸我就请吃饭 lol
[03:57] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 本来你要是现在帮忙推, 就有照片来确认一下是不是萌妹子了, 不过貌似不需要发给你了
[03:59] <BuMangHuo> //
[04:00] <BuMangHuo> 对啊
[04:00] <BuMangHuo> 发啊发啊
[04:02] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, =。= 发给我确实意义不大 估计问不到
[04:02] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 昂.
[04:02] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 那也要发啊魂淡！
[04:03] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 呵呵哒
[04:03] <tryit> MSErgo4k, 妹子缘真好～
[04:04] <jackness> 额。。。我还没有妹子呢
[04:04] <jackness> 帮我也找个吧
[04:06] <MSErgo4k> tryit: 昂.
[04:12] <farseerfc> 求問有人在HP Gen9的服務器上裝過Ubuntu 14.04麼，Smart Storage的驅動怎麼解決的？
[04:18] <jackness> 这个好像没有遇到过 智能存储的驱动？不太明白
[04:19] <farseerfc> 是一個raid控制器的驅動
[04:23] <onlylove> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43675
[04:23] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | Linux 4.0发布
[04:23] <onlylove> 内核4.0时代
[04:24] <onlylove> 我还在想2.6那不久之前的事情……
[04:25] <cherrot> 我们老得太快了
[04:26] <farseerfc> 只是2.6.60而已啦
[04:27] <palomino|working> lol
[04:27] <palomino|working> 说得好
[04:31] <jackness> raid不懂
[04:32] <jackness> 内核4.0了吗
[04:35] <onlylove> cherrot: 我想着我有个事情要问你来着，就是想不起是啥了
[04:44] <if_e1se> MSErgo4k: 开发？招。。。
[04:45] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: 产品
[04:45] <if_e1se> MSErgo4k: 乃，工作几年了。产品经理招的
[04:45] <if_e1se> MSErgo4k: 发个简历，我帮你内推一下看看
[04:45] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: 不是我, 是个萌妹子.
[04:45] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: 应届生, 要不?
[04:46] <if_e1se> MSErgo4k: 应届生。。。哪年毕业什么的？我不确定，校园招聘是否已经招满了
[04:46] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: 今年毕业, 六月份.
[04:47] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: 帮问问啦~
[04:47] <if_e1se> MSErgo4k: 囧rz 今年毕业，现在才想起找工作。。。太凶残了。我给问问
[04:47] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: 好.
[04:47] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: thx!
[04:48] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 是啊 为啥现在才找
[04:49] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 中大的？
[04:49] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 我怎么知道...
[04:49] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 不是 ,北京的
[04:49] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 你才是妹子壕啊
[04:49] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 我老妈的干闺女
[04:49] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 我就见过两面
[04:50] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 正面和背面？
[04:50] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: 赞赞哒
[04:50] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 你老妈缺我这样的干女婿不 ;)
[04:51] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: ... 人家有男朋友啊
[04:52] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 又没结婚生娃
[04:52] <MSErgo4k> cherrot: ... ...
[04:53] <jackness> 工作不容易的
[04:54] <cherrot> MSErgo4k, 她男朋友不介意的
[04:54] <jackness> 额。。。
[04:56] <tryit> cherrot, +1
[04:59] <onlylove> cherrot: 她应该不介意多一个男朋友，这样貌似好一点？
[05:00] <cherrot> onlylove, 男py
[05:01] <onlylove> 一把5块钱的办公剪刀，到了超市，为毛变12块了！
[05:02] <onlylove> 我TM想买个剪刀都有人要翻番赚钱
[05:03] <jackness> https://github.com/nyfair/freeweb
[05:03] <^k^> ⇪ ti: nyfair/freeweb · GitHub
[05:04] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 表號 : 一富翁不通文墨﹐有借馬者柬雲﹕"偶欲他出﹐告假駿足一乘。"翁大怒曰﹕"我便是一雙足﹐如何借得﹖"傍友代解曰﹕"所謂駿足者﹐馬之稱號也。"翁乃大笑曰﹕"不信念生也有表號。"
[05:04] <BuMangHuo> ，，，，
[05:04] * BuMangHuo 去跟淘宝js恶斗
[05:05] <BuMangHuo> 天猫小二现在完全是给卖家服务的么
[05:05] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k: 萌妹子推荐给我, 我招实习生
[05:06] <MSErgo4k> QiongMangHuo: 产品经理
[05:06] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k: 嗯 我招
[05:06] <MSErgo4k> QiongMangHuo: 你发jd来
[05:06] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k: 职位, 产品经理, 要求, 萌妹子, 工资, 面议
[05:07] <MSErgo4k> QiongMangHuo: 没申请链接?
[05:07] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k: 咩
[05:07] <MSErgo4k> QiongMangHuo: 昂.
[05:07] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 早
[05:08] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 今天上班这么早啊
[05:08] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 嗯哼
[05:08] <BuMangHuo> 额，后面这个语气词是做啥的
[05:08] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 剑网3好玩不
[05:09] <MSErgo4k> QiongMangHuo: 你不靠谱, 我还是等等 if_e1se 兄的结果吧
[05:09] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k: 求萌妹子
[05:09] <MSErgo4k> QiongMangHuo: 你不要白老板了?
[05:09] <jackness> 萌妹子好吃香
[05:09] <QiongMangHuo> ...
[05:09] <MSErgo4k> QiongMangHuo: 始乱终弃?
[05:10] <if_e1se> MSErgo4k: 我。说了也不算，之前给我一个同学推荐过。HR 那边说，产品经理校招已经招满了。。。
[05:10] <if_e1se> MSErgo4k: 一会儿看看 HR 怎么说吧。
[05:10] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: 昂, 明白, 满了就算了~
[05:10] <MSErgo4k> if_e1se: 好, 多谢!
[05:10] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[05:11] <QiongMangHuo> if_e1se: 窝也想去有萌妹子的小米
[05:11] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 壕
[05:11] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 乖
[05:11] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 我不太喜欢去萌妹子多的地方啊，眼看着一个个的都跟人走了，疼在心上啊
[05:12] <BuMangHuo> 还是看不见的不心烦
[05:12] <jackness> 你们太好色了吧 天天想着妹子 现在好妹子很难找
[05:12] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 壕要单干了？ 壕好旅游去了？
[05:13] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 没钱单干 没钱旅游啊
[05:14] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 你要是09年问我我极力推荐，现在问，哦，你可能的话，别玩
[05:14] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 已经进入圈钱模式，国产游戏的寿命，你知道的
[05:15] <jackness> onlylove:现在网页游戏比较快
[05:15] <jackness> onlylove: 但是很烧钱的
[05:16] <onlylove> jackness: 傻
[05:16] <onlylove> jackness: 烧钱的游戏哪个好玩？
[05:16] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 好吧
[05:16] <onlylove> jackness: 你看魔兽十年
[05:16] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 那我再找一个
[05:16] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 无聊很
[05:16] <jackness> onlylove: 那你玩什么游戏？
[05:16] <onlylove> jackness: 我仍然认为魔兽好玩
[05:16] <onlylove> jackness: 剑网三
[05:17] <jackness> onlylove: 魔兽世界我玩过了 魔兽争霸我玩过了 都不错 不太烧钱
[05:17] <onlylove> jackness: 别问我为啥，陪亲友玩而已
[05:17] <onlylove> jackness: 亲友不在，立刻A
[05:17] <jackness> onlylove: 我还玩过剑侠情缘网络版
[05:18] <jackness> onlylove: 剑网太大了吧 下载要很久 还要更新
[05:18] <onlylove> jackness: 魔兽争霸要钱？除了CD钱貌似不要了吧，别没事和我搭话，我现在很忙
[05:18] <onlylove> jackness: 你TM有完没完，过来给我修BUG！
[05:18] <onlylove> jackness: 不修滚！
[05:18] <jackness> onlylove: 我推荐网页游戏的微端 速度快 点了就能玩
[05:19] <onlylove> jackness: 你TM的是不是傻？
[05:20] <onlylove> jackness: 就那些垃圾页游，能玩？
[05:20] <onlylove> jackness: 还有，赶紧给我修BUG，既然你不肯走
[05:20] <jackness> onlylove: 能不能不要骂我 我最怕人骂我打我了
[05:20] <jackness> onlylove: 什么bug 我水平不够
[05:25] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[05:27] <tryit> BuMangHuo, 不在乎几个妹子吧，千人斩的称号不是浪得虚名的
[05:28] <BuMangHuo> tryit: 洒洒水啦
[05:29] <tryit> BuMangHuo, :)
[05:29] <jackness> 妹子都被你们抢光了
[05:34] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 新手求助E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken pack http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469479 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Inco
[05:34] <^k^> ─> ming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: bu …
[05:39] <jusss> test
[05:39] <^k^> jusss:点点点. 13:39
[05:41] * HowIsItGoing 想去帝都玩耍，看花花
[05:43] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 来嘛 来嘛
[05:43] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 周六去凤凰岭
[05:44] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 想去禅房
[05:44] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 不过花可能都落了
[05:44] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 那是啥?
[05:45] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 妙峰山边上一条叉路，花儿比妙好看
[05:55] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 重新安装win7,如何恢复双系统菜单? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469482 Dell笔记本电脑,原装windows 7系统,后来加装UBT14.04后成双系统,使用正常. 现在win7系统有问题,准备使用dell原有的一键恢复系统,重新安装win7系统, 担心这样的结果会改写MBR,使原有的双系统菜单消
[05:58] <BuMangHuo> 一到周末就天气不好
[06:00] <if_e1se> MSErgo4k`: HR 说除非 **特别优秀** 才行。。。
[06:03] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 所以应该周末逃出北京
[06:04] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 去河北去山西去山东去河南
[06:04] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 过阵子去内蒙
[06:05] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 这么多地方啊
[06:06] <BuMangHuo> 想去趟山西来着
[06:07] <MSErgo4k`> if_e1se: 昂... ...
[06:07] <MSErgo4k`> if_e1se: 一下子好难拿捏...
[06:11] <hoxily> hoxbot1: quit()
[06:12] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 你的车子发货木有
[06:12] <MSErgo4k`> BuMangHuo: 没呢.
[06:12] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 等下一代小盒子出来就连电视一起买!
[06:12] <BuMangHuo> 小交效率慢啊
[06:12] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 买显示器吧, 多用途.
[06:13] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 带sound bar的显示器.
[06:13] <BuMangHuo> 小米显示器？
[06:13] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 以后连电脑也行.
[06:13] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 很贵吧?
[06:13] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 同尺寸比电视贵.
[06:14] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 不过, 省了以后买显示器的钱啊
[06:14] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 显示器也是提高程序员生活质量的东西啊
[06:14] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 有道理啊
[06:15] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: binli那个就很好, 两千多. 自己配个soundbar
[06:16] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: dell的都可以装speaker 确实不错
[06:16] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 不是都可以, 但是高端的都可以.
[06:17] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 大同，去年我2天来回，看恒山和云岗石窟
[06:17] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 很爽
[06:17] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 话说我连我们家附近的石窟还没去过来着
[06:17] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 哪个？
[06:17] <BuMangHuo> 甘肃有俩来着
[06:18] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 敦煌、麦积山
[06:18] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 卧槽，啥时候一起去吧
[06:18] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 敦煌比较远，但是天水的麦积山比较近
[06:19] <BuMangHuo> 可惜交通这些乱七八糟的原因，很少外地人去甘肃旅游
[06:20] * BuMangHuo 看到 linux 4.0 就想哼喜羊羊啊
[06:22] <BuMangHuo> http://cn.nytstyle.com/travel/20150410/t10srilanka/
[06:22] <BuMangHuo> 这个地方赞
[06:22] <^k^> BuMangHuo: ⇪ 斯里兰卡群山间的隐秘茶乡 - 纽约时报 国际生活
QiongMangHuo: 显示器也是提高程序员生活质量的东西啊 <-- 说得太好了
[06:24] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: MSErgo4k` palomino|working 买买买
[06:24] <BuMangHuo> palomino|working: 哦，你不用买了
[06:24] <palomino|working> 我也得买..
[06:25] <BuMangHuo> palomino|working: 你说的是显示器厂家对吧
[06:25] <BuMangHuo> 现在股市这么好，收购吧
[06:25] <palomino|working> = =
[06:26] <palomino|working> 能有钱买厂早退休了..
[06:30] <MSErgo4k`> palomino|working: 另外两个就是人体工学座椅和人体工学键盘
[06:35] <palomino|working> 说得太好了
[06:35] <palomino|working> 但是人体工程学无线机械键盘可供选择的种类很少啊..
[06:36] <BuMangHuo> 人体工学 还机械键盘 还无线， 这要求多啊
[06:36] <BuMangHuo> palomino|working: 目前大多数还是3选1吧
[06:36] <palomino|working> 也不是没有,但是..
[06:37] <BuMangHuo> 人体工学座椅？ 之前yahoo 的卖完了/
[06:37] <BuMangHuo> ？
[06:37] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 支持画中画的显示器, 最适合了. http://item.jd.com/1125203.html
[06:38] <^k^> MSErgo4k`: ⇪ 【飞利浦288P6LJEB】飞利浦（PHILIPS） 288P6LJEB 28英寸宽屏 带LED背光源的4K超高清显示器【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东 pp: 3299.00
[06:39] <onlylove> 我发现我京东买把剪刀，加上运费都比超市便宜！
[06:39] <palomino|working> lol
[06:39] <palomino|working> 超市太坑
[06:39] <palomino|working> :O MSErgo4k`
[06:41] * QiongMangHuo 求在twitter web自动预览instagram图片的方法 cc Destine
[06:41] <palomino|working> tn面板,怎么到10亿色的...
[06:43] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 我是。。。发的那个也。。。
[06:43] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 你是创造问题的, 给个解决方案吧...
[06:44] * BuMangHuo 求手机客户端不要自动预览 twitter 的方法
[06:46] <BuMangHuo> fo 的类似正妹tm之类的 发的推在公共场合自动加载出来不好玩
[06:47] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 关注我的instagram？问题就解决了
[06:48] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 拆掉twitter
[06:48] <QiongMangHuo> ...
[06:48] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: https://github.com/OTRMan/otr.to-chat 这个不错
[06:48] <^k^> ⇪ ti: OTRMan/otr.to-chat · GitHub
[06:50] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 用的人少 还是会暴露
[06:50] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 我希望的是那种可以混在其他流量里 感觉不出来的聊天方式
[06:55] <BuMangHuo> 那俩车都撞那样了，人居然都活着？
[06:55] <palomino|working> 是啊
[06:55] <palomino|working> 所以应该开的不快?
[06:55] <BuMangHuo> 还是人车好啊
[06:56] <abc_> 超跑的驾驶室构造特殊
[06:56] <BuMangHuo> 哦啊
[06:56] <BuMangHuo> http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/411b4aefjw1er2ml63fhoj20ql0zkwh6.jpg
[06:57] <BuMangHuo> 这种车的牌子在哪里啊
[06:57] <BuMangHuo> 红色那辆好像还有牌儿
[06:58] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 需要那么复杂的么
[06:59] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 既然搞了 当然安全第一
[07:00] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.04 • 弱弱的问下，Ubuntu15.04 LTS大概什么时候出 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469483 ，现在用的是14.04，刚好准备换硬盘，重做系统，索性就换15.04了，想知道还要多久出。 zz: strawhat7 — 2015-04-13 14:45
[07:03] * MSErgo4k` java万岁.
[07:04] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 研究了一下, 除非关掉某个安全选项 否则不可以, sigh...
[07:05] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 关掉。
[07:05] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 我刚在调那个js脚本, 提示安全block... 还是算了
[07:06] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 所以你真的不要直接关注我的instagram么？
[07:08] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 天使之翼被揚不過死死按在飲水機邊上
[07:09] <BuMangHuo> tor: symbol lookup error: tor: undefined symbol: evutil_secure_rng_set_urandom_device_file 这是啥情况
[07:10] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 没有instagram
[07:10] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 社交网络恐惧症
[07:10] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 装。。。
[07:11] <QiongMangHuo> huntxu: 最近表现很差?
[07:11] <MSErgo4k`> 没instagram... twitter也不用...
[07:11] * MSErgo4k` 因为我不会翻墙啊
[07:11] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: young太高光了
[07:15] * MSErgo4k` java大法好, 退C保平安
[07:18] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: https://www.v2ex.com/t/183418#reply0
[07:18] <^k^> ⇪ ti: [创新工场-TheONE 智能钢琴] 招聘：中高级 Java 软件开发工程师 - V2EX
[07:18] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: https://www.v2ex.com/t/183419#reply0
[07:18] <^k^> ⇪ ti: [创新工场-TheONE 智能钢琴] 招聘：高级 Android 开发工程师 - V2EX
[07:18] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 妹子很多的公司 去吧
[07:18] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 妹子很多的公司 去吧, Java Guru
[07:19] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 逼格太高了吧?
[07:19] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 其实不高
[07:20] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 快去快去
[07:20] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 9.钢琴随时弹，公司有专门的琴房，工作之余去弹弹琴，轻松惬意。这还不高?
[07:20] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 有很多打谱的姑娘在琴房
[07:20] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 这你都知道?
[07:20] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 嗯, 他们HR让我帮忙宣传
[07:21] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 所以一下子想到你, Java Guru
[07:21] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 乖!
[07:21] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: 正在学java, 等我学会了就投
[07:22] * MSErgo4k` 知乎跟launchpad一样被python坑了吧...
[07:24] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: elsa很尴尬的看了你们一眼然后撩了一下头发.
[07:25] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 我们在讨论<权力的游戏>
[07:25] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: ... ... 你自己信?
[07:28] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: 是这样的，据传泄露了
[07:28] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 啥? 泄露了?
[07:28] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43672
[07:28] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | 权力的游戏第五季大面积泄漏
[07:28] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 我没说这个啊..
[07:28] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 真的说的这个
[07:28] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: 你不在讨论权利游戏么
[07:28] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 我没.
[07:28] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 不会java想去咋办
[07:28] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: QiongMangHuo 在.
[07:28] <palomino|working> 没有高清,不堪入目啊
[07:29] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 跟我一样, 赶紧学java, 我正在学
[07:29] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 现在正在看java的pdf呢
[07:29] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 我其实这几天在忙活下cinderella
[07:29] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4k`: 先前在说兰尼斯特家族的两兄妹
[07:29] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 据一个妹子评价不错……
[07:30] <QiongMangHuo> palomino|working: 第一集720p有了
[07:30] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kw=%E5%A5%B3%E5%AD%90%E6%88%92%E8%89%B2&ie=utf-8
[07:30] <^k^> MSErgo4k`: ⇪ 女子戒色吧_百度贴吧
[07:30] <QiongMangHuo> ...
[07:30] <cherrot> MSErgo4k`, 你的兴趣还真广唉
[07:30] <MSErgo4k`> cherrot: 啥?
[07:30] <MSErgo4k`> cherrot: 哦, 你说java啊.
[07:30] * QiongMangHuo afk
[07:31] <cherrot> MSErgo4k`, 女子戒色
[07:31] <MSErgo4k`> cherrot: 帮你们找的福利啊. 里面满满的福利.
[07:32] <cherrot> MSErgo4k`, 直接给福利链接
[07:32] <onlylove> 我记得一台钢琴的网站，貌似邮箱还是@xiaoyezi.com
[07:32] <MSErgo4k`> cherrot: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3671448907
[07:32] <alvin_rxg> Title: The ONE 智能钢琴 (@ 1tai.com *FROM* xiaoyezi.com)
[07:32] <^k^> MSErgo4k`: ⇪ 我要戒色！_女子戒色吧_百度贴吧
[07:33] <cherrot> MSErgo4k`, 真棒
[07:33] <MSErgo4k`> cherrot: 满满的福利啊
[07:38] <onlylove> 不懂福利在哪里……
[07:38] <palomino|working> cinderella... onlylove
[07:38] <palomino|working> 我老婆一直闹着要看
[07:38] <palomino|working> 我一直推三阻四,heihei
[07:39] <MSErgo4k`> palomino|working: 你有老婆了?
[07:39] <palomino|working> 是啊
[07:39] <onlylove> palomino|working: 让她看吧，没准高兴了晚上给你加个菜啥的
[07:40] <palomino|working> 正打算减肥呢...
[07:40] <onlylove> palomino|working: 减肥什么的，看 adam
[07:40] <palomino|working> 额
[07:41] <onlylove> palomino|working: 所以有些事别强求了，能减多少算多少
[07:41] <onlylove> palomino|working: 饭该吃得吃
[07:42] <palomino|working> 我还以为是说要我跟他一♂起♂减♂肥呢
[07:42] <palomino|working> 再不减我有生命危险了
[07:43] <onlylove> palomino|working: 那你还是减吧
[07:44] <jussss> palomino|working: 那你得100+ kg吧
[07:44] <palomino|working> 是的 jussss
[07:46] <onlylove_> 这破网……
[07:46] <onlylove_> jackness那货总算走了，每天有事没事不好好用功，到这边搭话能学到啥
[07:48] <jussss> palomino|working: 问个邪恶的，你老婆多少kg
[07:49] <gebjgd> jussss, 压路机般的感受
[07:50] <palomino|working> lol
[07:50] <jussss> gebjgd: 你太邪恶了
[07:52] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 少吃 多运动
[07:52] <palomino|working> 恩
[07:52] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 如果老觉得饿 就多喝水
[07:52] <palomino|working> 其实根据我以前的经验..运动到位就不怎么饿了
[07:53] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 其实你还是吃的太多了
[07:53] <palomino|working> 我吃的很少了
[07:53] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 如何少？
[07:53] <palomino|working> 早晨1片面包1个鸡蛋2片火腿
[07:53] <palomino|working> 中午多一片面包
[07:53] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 晚饭那？
[07:53] <palomino|working> 晚上一小碗米饭外加一些菜
[07:53] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 那还能继续胖？
[07:54] <palomino|working> 没继续胖
[07:54] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 但是没瘦？
[07:54] <palomino|working> 体重保持得挺好-_-
[07:54] <palomino|working> 是啊
[07:54] <gebjgd> palomino|working, ...... 继续减
[07:54] <palomino|working> 所以还是得锻炼
[07:54] <palomino|working> 缺乏运动
[07:54] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 别吃面包 吃米饭
[07:54] <palomino|working> 不行
[07:54] <palomino|working> 血糖
[07:54] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 。。。。。。 你有糖尿病？
[07:54] <palomino|working> 对
[07:54] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 小心了
[07:55] <palomino|working> 只能吃全麦面包
[07:55] <palomino|working> 吃米饭血糖蹭蹭的
[07:55] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 天天下班去走路2个小时
[07:55] <palomino|working> 没那么多时间
[07:55] <palomino|working> 而且2小时走不到家..
[07:55] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 那你这么下去可不行
[07:55] <gebjgd> 时间会更少 我是说生命的时间
[07:56] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 骑车上班
[07:56] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 坚持半年
[07:56] <palomino|working> ...
[07:56] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 20公里有么？
[07:56] <palomino|working> 18km
[07:56] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 问题不大
[07:56] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 买辆好车
[07:57] <palomino|working> 不要
[07:57] <palomino|working> 家里有椭圆机
[07:57] <palomino|working> 回家跑去
[07:59] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 膝盖损伤
[07:59] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 游泳
[08:00] <palomino|working> 椭圆机不伤膝盖
[08:00] <palomino|working> 我以前用跑步机来着
[08:00] <palomino|working> 现在膝盖疼...
[08:00] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 胖了 不能直接跑步
[08:00] <palomino|working> 游泳是个不错的运动
[08:00] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 建个私人游泳池吧
[08:00] <palomino|working> 等天热了,我到楼下健身房办个卡去
[08:00] <onlylove> 土豪马好可怜的样子
[08:00] <palomino|working> ...
[08:00] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 反正你有钱
[08:00] <onlylove> palomino|working: 你要不找个瑜伽老师？
[08:01] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 胖了之后最好的减肥方法 汽车上下班 游泳
[08:01] <palomino|working> 穷得很了...
[08:01] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 等你瘦到标准体重再跑步
[08:01] <palomino|working> 瑜伽做不来啊 onlylove
[08:01] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 骑车上下班
[08:02] <palomino|working> 不要
[08:02] <palomino|working> 楼下没地方停车
[08:02] <palomino|working> 车会丢的
[08:02] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 看距离
[08:02] <gebjgd> onlylove, 7公里上
[08:02] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 如果我这种地铁一个半小时的，骑车会疯掉
[08:02] <gebjgd> onlylove, 就能减肥
[08:02] <gebjgd> onlylove, 不怕 多少公里
[08:02] <palomino|working> 其实以前我年轻时
[08:03] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 25单程
[08:03] <gebjgd> onlylove, 还好
[08:03] <palomino|working> 每天得骑13公里上班去
[08:03] <palomino|working> 但是也没瘦,主要是那时候吃的实在太多了..
[08:03] <palomino|working> 比现在饭量3倍以上
[08:03] <gebjgd> onlylove, 我同事骑行 150公里
[08:03] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 收支平衡
[08:03] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 时间伤不起
[08:03] <gebjgd> palomino|working, 你现在不平衡
[08:03] <palomino|working> 那时候不懂啊 gebjgd
[08:03] <gebjgd> onlylove, 那就活的短呗
[08:04] <gebjgd> onlylove, 生命长度变短 一回事
[08:04] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 地铁尚且一个半小时，你骑车再快能快哪里去，你每天上下班8个小时么
[08:05] <palomino|working> 骑车走直线,从房顶上过去...
[08:06] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 我想开飞机飞过去
[08:06] <gebjgd> onlylove, 25公里你基本上2个小时能骑完
[08:06] <palomino|working> lol onlylove_
[08:07] <MSErgo4k`> QiongMangHuo: http://www.mgpyh.com/recommend/125160959/
[08:07] <^k^> MSErgo4k`: ⇪ Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 固态硬盘 $89 可直邮 MGPYH 买个便宜货
[08:07] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 我不认为我比烧电的家伙跑得快，而且帝都空气你知道
[08:07] <palomino|working> $89
[08:07] <palomino|working> 便宜啊
[08:07] <onlylove_> palomino|working: $不是￥
[08:08] <palomino|working> 那也便宜啊..才500多
[08:08] <onlylove_> 好吧……其实我想说，能买2T的机械了
[08:08] <palomino|working> 这样...
[08:09] <onlylove_> 当然250G够用了
[08:09] <onlylove_> 我只是觉得这东西寿命不如机械的
[08:09] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 如果只有一个硬盘, 500块钱肯定买这个不买机械啦
[08:09] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 如果笔记本用, ssd寿命好过机械.
[08:09] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: 掉速和磨损
[08:09] <q_> markdown的代码折叠怎么写啊？
[08:09] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: 机械用多久就那速度
[08:09] <palomino|working> 寿命其实挺长的...之前那个测试,最少也写了700T数据进去啊
[08:10] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 掉速不能忍
[08:10] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 机械掉速度的. 马达
[08:10] <palomino|working> 掉速还好啊,不是很严重 onlylove_
[08:10] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 掉速度之后, 也比机械硬盘快.
[08:10] <palomino|working> 没错..
[08:10] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: 不是和机械比
[08:10] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: 你SSD和机械比速度，什么出息
[08:10] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 啥? 你在说啥?
[08:11] <onlylove_> 就和现在金山似的，明明时间收费游戏，非要和道具收费比
[08:11] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: 我说，掉速以后的速度和新盘比不能忍
[08:11] <onlylove_> MSErgo4k`: 和机械比，你有本事比容量
[08:11] <MSErgo4k`> onlylove_: 但是还是要买ssd啊, 因为掉速度之后也比机械快
[08:12] <palomino|working> http://news.mydrivers.com/1/399/399849_3.htm
[08:12] <^k^> palomino|working: ⇪ 固态硬盘连写2500TB：终于……全死了！-固态硬盘,连续写入,金士顿,HyperX 3K,三星,840 Pro-驱动之家
[08:12] <palomino|working> 并没掉多少
[08:12] <MSErgo4k`> palomino|working: 是的, 而且在 笔记本上寿命好过机械硬盘
[08:12] <MSErgo4k`> palomino|working: 现在ssd这么便宜, 真是福音啊
[08:12] <palomino|working> 没有笔记本~~
[08:13] <MSErgo4k`> palomino|working: 我没有台式机...
[08:13] <palomino|working> lol
[08:15] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[08:22] <yunfan> palomino|working: 2500T不算多 很坑爹
[08:22] <yunfan> palomino|working: 期待massive storage of mram
[08:23] <palomino|working> ....
[08:23] <palomino|working> 这还坑
[08:23] <palomino|working> 普通用户谁能写这么多数据啊
[08:23] <palomino|working> 256g的硬盘,每天写一遍1年才多少啊...
[08:24] <gebjgd> yunfan, 你到底存了多少a片？
[08:26] <BuMangHuo> 2500t?
[08:26] <yunfan> gebjgd: 不是 你要考虑个问题 这个是总写入 他肯定是设置每个节点都写的
[08:26] <yunfan> gebjgd: 而实际上你可能进场读写某一块
[08:26] <yunfan> 你总不希望盘上到处都有坏块吧
[08:26] <yunfan> palomino|working: 哥是普通用户么？
[08:27] <palomino|working> who knows
[08:27] <palomino|working> 你担心的读写某一块的问题不存在啊
[08:28] <palomino|working> 主控会做磨损平衡的
[08:30] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 读书 : "名人说没有书的房子就是没有灵魂的躯体。""有书不读的人,那便是灵魂出壳。"
[08:32] <yunfan> 比较担心这个事
[08:58] * QiongMangHuo 小麦王好甜
[09:05] <nyfair> 最近下了个开源的匿名聊天软件，发现那玩意cpu占用率超高。然后去看了下源代码，libbitcoin是什么玩意
[09:05] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: 牛牛 包养我!
[09:06] <iMadper> nyfair: 牛牛 包养我!
[09:07] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 日收20w的菊苣！
[09:09] <palomino|working> 挖矿的 nyfair
[09:09] * jussss 什么时候能升职ceo 迎娶 nyfair 走上人生巅峰
[09:10] <nyfair> 话说现在上暗网，是不是只要‘托’就够了
[09:11] <palomino|working> 很久没用托了
[09:12] <nyfair> 我也是
[09:15] <nyfair> http://static.koukuko.com/h/image/2015-3-13/3d6bccd3-3fe3-4004-b292-d4cddf5d89ec.jpg
[09:16] <palomino|working> 玄不救非，氪不改命的意思是“玄学不可能拯救非洲人，氪金不能改变命运”。
[09:17] <QiongMangHuo> palomino|working: 大湿
[09:17] <palomino|working> 放狗搜的..
[09:45] <onlylove> 项目文件丢失，就责怪java版本和eclipse版本，印度阿三的水平，我就呵呵下
[09:46] <palomino|working> ...
[09:46] <palomino|working> 我一般责怪windows
[09:47] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 我觉得这个阿三就是找打的，不打他脸他不好受
[09:47] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 我明天试试能不能打肿
[09:47] <palomino|working> 加油
[09:59] <BuMangHuo> 当当下线了/
[09:59] <BuMangHuo> ？
[10:05] <nyfair> onlylove__: 自从我把eclipse删了，上班无比轻松
[10:05] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://i2.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g4/M08/0B/00/Cg-4WlI2olmIHBbUAAD4fUIwvP0AALrJgF1dhoAAPiV868.jpg 快点修好,我还要上快乐麻花网呢
[10:06] <nyfair> 话说玻璃渣不让克里米亚人民玩游戏，是不是应该有人跳出来高喊自由民主，拥抱乌克兰啊
[10:08] <nyfair> 这家伙是谁？他哪来的Op
[10:09] <Kves> 新 启动和引导 • 安装系统后遇到的关于grub以及无法启动系统的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469484 原来电脑装有windows和ubuntu，后来要重装ubuntu，然后重装了。结果问题来了，装完之后grub启动界面没了，也就是在该出现选择windows或者ubuntu的时候没有出现这个界面，而是略微停
[10:09] <Kves> ─> 顿一会之后直接进入ubuntu。开始以为是grub出现了问题，于是执行sudo update-grub更新了grub.cf …
[10:11] <onlylove> nyfair: 你不知道小K小名叫kves？
[10:12] <onlylove> nyfair: 克里米亚那边安心打架，玩毛游戏
[10:15] <nyfair> 克里米亚人民不该有玩网络游戏的自由？
[10:31] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 我靠，我这信息又被卖了
[11:39] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://i4.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g4/M06/0B/00/Cg-4WVI2rLaIEEYGAAEIG1d0RtUAALrSAC7cy4AAQgz554.jpg 完美吻合
[11:58] <perr> 咩
[12:12] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 关于在vps服务器上架设VPN的问题讨论 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469486 为了实现安全连接到工作区，我购买了一个云服务器，但是配置好vpn连接后，vpn连接出现以下错误提示 错误提示：800 错误提示 619 错误提示 628 以及连接被挂起。 请教各位大神，
[12:12] <^k^> ─> 这些问题产生的原因是什么。请详细解答。谢谢各位大神了。 zz: jackness — 2015-04-13 20:11
[12:50] <^k^> 新 Arch发行版 • GTK3程序中不能激活fcitx输入法。其他程序可以。求教 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469487 请教大家一个问题。刚装完ARCH和Gnome-shell。使用fcitx输入法。发现fcitx在GTK3程序中无法激活。 具体表现在在GTK3程序中，比如gnome-terninal和Gedit等就是不行，无法激活输入法，显示无
[12:50] <^k^> ─> 输入窗口。 但是其他可以 ，比如QT下面，我QT程序装得少，在virtualbox中尝试，发现可以 …
[12:52] <^k^> 新 Arch发行版 • GTK3程序中不能激活fcitx输入法。其他程序可以。求教 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469489 请教大家一个问题。刚装完ARCH和Gnome-shell。使用fcitx输入法。发现fcitx在GTK3程序中无法激活。 具体表现在在GTK3程序中，比如gnome-terninal和Gedit等就是不行，无法激活输入法，显示无
[12:52] <^k^> ─> 输入窗口。 但是其他可以 ，比如QT下面，我QT程序装得少，在virtualbox中尝试，发现可以 …
[13:07] <archl> roylez,
[13:07] <roylez> archl: ?
[13:07] <archl> roylez, 我还是不知道自己想要什么呢
[13:08] <roylez> archl: 有工作了吗？
[13:08] <archl> roylez, 想辞了
[13:08] <archl> roylez 想创业但不想干同样的事情。
[13:08] <roylez> archl: 那吃什么呢？
[13:09] <archl> roylez, 西北风
[13:09] <archl> roylez, 最低生活保障应该可以赚到。。。
[13:09] <roylez> archl: 你可以考虑去参加10天的冥想课程清理下
[13:09] <archl> roylez, 我想全世界都听我的。
[13:09] <archl> roylez, 哈哈
[13:10] <roylez> archl: 想以后后悔少就少说这种自欺欺人的
[13:10] <archl> roylez, 冥想会越来越乱吧。
[13:11] <archl> roylez, 我不想为自己积累什么东西，想要的都和自己没有直接关系。
[13:14] <archl> 永远是，如果有这个就好了。
[13:24] <onlylove> 没有如果
[13:27] <iotouch> 想找什么工作了
[13:27] <iotouch> 会什么编程语言
[14:03] <iMadper> 谁家网速快? 帮我测个东西?
[14:04] <iMadper> lainme: 蓝莓姐, 帮忙测个网速?
[14:08] <onlylove> jusss: Furious 7这个，现在有能看的版本下载不
[14:10] <jusss> onlylove: 没有，倒是有fifty shades of grey你要不
[14:11] <onlylove> jusss: 文艺重口味/
[14:11] <onlylove> jusss: 看那个你直接找个岛国动作片看不就好了
[14:27] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://i0.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g4/M05/0A/0F/Cg-4WlI2nh6IfQn4AADKVsHq7h4AALrFwHiejYAAMpu520.jpg 这发型好有冲击力哟
[14:57] <lainme> iMadper: 哪个？我这里网页快打不开了。
[14:57] <iMadper> lainme: http://59.157.4.42/mini/index-php.html
[14:57] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ Speedtest.net Mini Bandwidth Speed Test
[14:57] <iMadper> lainme: 这个, 方便的话跑一下, 不方便就算了~
[14:59] * iMadper 先去杀个人, 回来再说
[15:00] <lainme> iMadper: download 3.4Mbps
[15:03] <iMadper> lainme: 多谢!
[15:15] <cherrot> iMadper, 换vps了？
[15:17] <iMadper> cherrot: 没.
[15:17] <iMadper> cherrot: 帮忙跑一下?
[15:17] <iMadper> cherrot: 然后给解图看看
[15:17] <cherrot> iMadper, 我在更新系统 影响不？
[15:18] <iMadper> cherrot: 先跑一下嘛~
[15:18] <cherrot> iMadper, 好啊
[15:20] <cherrot> iMadper, 可一直黑屏是闹哪样？
[15:20] <iMadper> cherrot: 渣网速, 你不用跑了
[15:21] <cherrot> iMadper, 这是要挂代理的节奏啊
[15:21] <cherrot> iMadper, 代理1 24.27
[15:22] <cherrot> iMadper, 杭州代理 4.24
[15:22] <cherrot> iMadper, 杭州代理2 3.5
[15:23] <cherrot> iMadper, 坡国代理 3.88
[15:23] <cherrot> iMadper, 妈蛋
[15:23] <lainme> 好多代理
[15:24] <cherrot> 上网姿势多样化 :D
[15:30] <O0XX|Qiong> time
[15:30] <O0XX|Qiong> hi
[15:30] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong:点点点. 23:29
[15:49] <qiyexuejiunai> 好乱啊，第一次玩这个，看见各种刷屏，还好懂一点英文
[21:41] <jackness> 大家早上好！
[21:41] <jackness> 早森
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[05:07] <zsombi_> mhall119: if you want to catch it anywhere, you must choose a component (i.e. Page) and catch it there.
[05:13] <zsombi_> mhall119: see http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-keys.html
[06:09] <Guest7105> Hello ？ I add a PushClient component in .qml file, and in .apparmor file add "push-notification-client" policy, the PushClient signal an error:qml: GOT ERROR bad auth
[06:10] <Guest7105> which hero can help me ?
[06:12] <Guest7105> when I add "ubuntu-push-helper" template in .apparmor file, my application will crash, at the same time report the following information:UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is running, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have rejected the incoming connection, so check its log file
[06:14] <Guest7105> please help me ？
[10:00] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, hey, is there a way to translate the .desktop file from a qmake based project?
[11:05] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: good question, i think not atm
[11:56] <mivoligo> mzanetti: ping
[11:56] <mzanetti> mivoligo, hey ho
[11:56] <mivoligo> mzanetti: nice stopwatch :D
[11:57] <mzanetti> heh
[11:57] <mzanetti> when I saw noone managed to do that yet I was a bit disappointed and did it myself
[11:58] <mivoligo> mzanetti: what I really need to ask you is the "speed" limit for enemies
[11:59] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I set something like "20" but it's not much faster then "4"
[12:00] <mzanetti> mivoligo, erm... I find that hard to believe
[12:01] <mivoligo> mzanetti: hmm.. I thought maybe there's a upper limit for "speed"
[12:01] <mzanetti> mivoligo, well, is it faster, no?
[12:02] <mzanetti> mivoligo, if you want you can also use 100 for the speed. then it should be much faster
[12:02] <mivoligo> mzanetti: it is faster but not 5 times
[12:02] <mzanetti> ah, that could be... let me look up the formula
[12:02] <mivoligo> ok
[12:03] <mzanetti> mivoligo, qreal diff = (m_engine->stepSize() + 0.001 * m_speed) * m_engine->gameSpeed();
[12:04] <mzanetti> basically setting it to 10 should make it twice as fast as 1
[12:04] <mzanetti> or something like that
[12:04] <mivoligo> ah ok
[12:05] <mivoligo> back to enemies.json then :D
[12:07] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, logged it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1443351
[12:09] <mivoligo> mzanetti: btw are you going to do the tower rotating thing? Without rotating is not that bad but with it would be nicer :)
[12:09] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: ok thx
[12:09] <mzanetti> mivoligo, hmm... good question...
[12:10] <mzanetti> mivoligo, I'll try to give it a look soonish
[12:10] <mivoligo> mzanetti: thanks
[12:11] <mivoligo> speed 100 is working nice :D
[12:14] <mzanetti> haha
[12:14] <mzanetti> that will be a fast one
[12:34] <mhall119> zsombi_: I'm doing iton the Page now, but if I click the Header of a page on a page stack, the Page component doesn't get focus
[12:34] <zsombi_> mhall119: uhm. I'm sorry, I don't get what the key handling has to do with teh mouse/touch events
[12:35] <mhall119> zsombi_: I think it has to do with focus scopes, and the fact that the Header's is different from the Page's
[12:35] <zsombi_> mhall119: key events should also go to non-focused items...
[12:36] <zsombi_> mhall119: they don't seem to...
[12:36] <mhall119> zsombi_: what I'm trying to do is catch an F5 key press on a page to refresh it's content, but if I clicked on the header instead of the content of the Page, it won't work
[12:37] <zsombi_> mhall119: right, as keys seem to go only to the focused item, in which case it'll be the header...
[12:37] <mhall119> zsombi_: currently my code looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815509/
[12:39] <zsombi_> mhall119: we should have sthing in the header, like Keys.forwardTo: []
[12:39] <zsombi_> mhall119: file a bug to t1mp
[12:43] <mhall119> zsombi_: t1mp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1443424
[12:44] <zsombi_> mhall119: thx!
[12:50] <zsombi_> mhall119: thinking of that bug, forwarding key events is not straight forward, as you may want to navigate between the header actions, so in that case the events should not be forwarded to the page at all. so it can be that it is more like works as desired than a bug
[12:51] <mhall119> zsombi_: could we forward anythign that's not being used by the Header?
[12:53] <zsombi_> mhall119: it all depends on the UX constraints, i.e. if they want to handle horizontal arrows to navivate between the actions, then other keys (except TAB/SHIFT+TAB) could be forwarded, yes
[12:53] <zsombi_> but I bet you'd also want those, right?
[12:54] <zsombi_> mhall119: so far we did not get any directions on how to show the focused element, if you'd have that, then it would be visible, that once you papped on the Header that grabs the focus, your content on teh page is no longer highlighted, so you should not even try to navigate there
[12:54] <mhall119> zsombi_: yes, but for keys that actually do something when the header has focus I would accept requiring the user to click the content portion of the page
[12:54] <t1mp> zsombi_, mhall119: seems tricky..
[12:54] <zsombi_> s/papped/tapped
[12:55] <zsombi_> mhall119: yes... as said, right now you don't see whos' having teh focus...
[12:55] <t1mp> zsombi_: perhaps we should allow keybindings to be attached to actions which are in the header?
[12:55] <zsombi_> t1mp: what keybindings?
[12:55] <mhall119> zsombi_: I guess what I really need is a way to attack Keys.onPressed to "the current top of the PageStack" which would be both the Header and Page
[12:56] <mhall119> s/attack/attach/
[12:56] <t1mp> zsombi_: F5
[12:56] <zsombi_> t1mp: ah, yes, planned with menus :)
[12:56] <zsombi_> t1mp: shortcut is the right term :)
[12:56] <mhall119> that might work, yeah
[12:56] <t1mp> zsombi_: ok
[12:56] <zsombi_> t1mp: see Menu API document, and enjoy :)
[12:57] <t1mp> zsombi_: still the header shold not 'eat' them if they are defined in a menu
[12:57] <mhall119> on a different note, is there a plan to add a 'color' property to an action for coloring it's icon?
[12:58] <zsombi_> t1mp: right, as they will also be in teh Action
[12:58] <zsombi_> mhall119: nope
[12:58] <zsombi_> mhall119: Action is a generic thing, coloring is the control specific part
[12:58] <mhall119> :/ ok
[12:58] <zsombi_> mhall119: so if you want to have colors somewhere, you must use it in place
[12:59] <zsombi_> t1mp: however, an Action should only grab the shortcuts when active, so if in a menu, it should only grab it if the menu is active
[13:00] <zsombi_> t1mp: think about teh stock actions, which may not even be used in a page.... you should not activate an action if not used
[13:02] <t1mp> zsombi_: stock actions?
[13:02] <zsombi_> t1mp: so when the header's actions are active (i.e. shown on teh page) the shortcuts should be triggerable. And if one header element is focused, the navigation keys should move the focus in between elements and not forwarded to the Page
[13:02] <zsombi_> t1mp: yes
[13:02] <t1mp> what are stock actions?
[13:02] <zsombi_> t1mp: imagoine you declare all your app's actions in a file, you call them stock actions
[13:02] <t1mp> zsombi_: if you have an app on your desktop, the shortcuts are always active, also when the menu is closed
[13:03] <zsombi_> t1mp: because those actions are also active
[13:04] <zsombi_> t1mp: but you may overrule a shortcut with a "local" action, meaning you'd have two actions with teh same shortcut, so only the current context one should be activated then
[13:05] <t1mp> yeah
[13:52] <kalikiana> t1mp: another review? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/orientationManual/+merge/254753
[13:57] <karni> Is there a way to ensure an Ubuntu One account is created without actually going through all steps described in this guide? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/platform/guides/online-accounts-developer-guide/ - it seems artifical to show a list with a single item, becase only one Ubuntu One account is supported. What I'm trying to achieve is, when there's no U1 account, the PushClient can't set-up itself (as it uses U1), so I simply want ...
[13:57] <karni> ... to pop open an account configuration page (I would assume, same as accountService.authenticate(), just without that whole account list boilerplate)
[13:59] <karni> or is it expected for apps that use U1 to show "hey, please select your account [ 1 account on the list ]" ?
[14:23] <ogra_> why does everyone suddenly produce stopwatch apps ...
[14:23] <ogra_> (and why does nobody add an egg time to his !!!)
[14:24] <ogra_> *timer
[14:31] <mhall119> zsombi_: BTW, instead of linking to upstream, you can link to our version of the docs: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/QtQuick.Keys/
[14:39] <nik90> ogra_: because a timer app is dead on arrival without platform support
[14:40] <ogra_> nik90, pfft ... so i have to eat hard boiled eggs because of bzoltan ?
[14:41] <nik90> ogra_: isn't that the golden rule? blame bzoltan for everything .. and he accepts it like a gentleman?
[14:41] * nik90 ducks
[14:41] <ogra_> i dont want him to accept it ! i want creamy eggs !!
[14:41] * ogra_ stomps his foot and shakes his cane
[14:42] <ogra_> :)
[14:44] <bzoltan> nik90: yes, that is what I do... what did I screw up again?
[14:45] <nik90> bzoltan: well this time you did nothing wrong...just me and ogra_ taking a stab at you for no reason ;-) ...
[14:45] <bzoltan> ogra_: creamy egg? That is easy ... 43.5C for 36 minutes :)
[14:45] * nik90 blames the universe for no timer support in ubuntu touch
[14:46] <bzoltan> nik90: ogra_: I actually did propose tp use the same timerd as used in meego, but the idea was dropped.
[14:46] <ogra_> bzoltan, so if i twist your head, will you start ticking ... and will you ring in 36min ? :P
[14:46] <ogra_> well, we need something :)
[14:47] <bzoltan> ogra_: with my limted knowledge about human anatomy... no, I doubt :)
[14:47] <ogra_> though indeed your app could fake that ... compute the right time to set an alarm and use that instaed ...
[14:47] <nik90> ogra_: yes but not with the current alarm backend that we have
[14:47] <ogra_> with a detached faked UI
[14:47] <nik90> ogra_: it would show up in the indicator and would require patches in various levels
[14:48] <ogra_> ouch
[14:48] <nik90> ogra_: we are planning for a much simpler new alarms backend, but that work will only start next cycle
[14:49] <nik90> ogra_: where we essentially a simple Dbus API where the SDK talks directly to indicator-datetime
[14:49] <nik90> which right now is a bit complicated due to the EDS middle man
[14:49] <ogra_> yeah, that sounds good
[14:50] <nik90> ogra_: and this is the reasoning I will provide everytime *somebody* complains about lack of timer :P
[14:53] <t1mp> kalikiana: another review done. I left some comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/orientationManual/+merge/254753
[14:58] <pendigging> recently updated docker app docker 1.5.0.002 fails to install on ubuntu core dev 15.04
[14:58] <pendigging> ubuntu@localhost:/var/log$ sudo snappy install docker docker 8 MB [[14:59] <ogra_> pendigging, snappy questions should go to #snappy
[14:59] <pendigging> So, noted. Thanks. I will go there.
[15:00] <rickspencer3> hey, I just saw that there is no suru icon for import
[15:00] <rickspencer3> what are folks using for that?
[15:12] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, hey, is there a current "best" doc to use for content hub?
[15:12] <rickspencer3> I want to add import functionality by importing content in a text document
[15:13] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:16] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, sorry, in a meeting
[15:17] <t1mp> rickspencer3: perhaps the 'plus' icon?\
[15:17] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, no problem
[15:17] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, I'm using this in the meantime: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Content.index/
[15:17] <rickspencer3> tyt
[15:17] <kenvandine> that's probably the best one right now
[15:27] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, I assume this means that I don't have one of the necessary objects set up correctly??
[15:27] <rickspencer3> void ContentTransfer::setTransfer(com::ubuntu::content::Transfer*) No valid transfer object passed: QObject(0x0)
[15:27] <rickspencer3> bool ContentTransfer::start() Transfer can't be started
[15:27] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, can you pastebin your code somewhere and i'll take a look after this sprint meeting
[15:28] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rick-rickspencer3/+junk/flash2/view/head:/Main.qml
[15:30] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, you are using the default peer for Documents
[15:30] <kenvandine> which there is none
[15:31] <kenvandine> you need to use the peer picker
[15:31] <rickspencer3> uh
[15:31] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, I'm just sort of copy and pasting from here:
[15:31] <rickspencer3> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Content.index/
[15:32] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, so I need to change content peer to be contentpicker?
[15:32] <kenvandine> yeah, that would work for say pictures
[15:32] <kenvandine> because we have a default peer for it
[15:33] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, so, I really am not sure what to do now
[15:34] <rickspencer3> just want to import a text file, tbh
[15:34] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, hang on :)
[15:35] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/+junk/hub-importer/view/head:/hub-importer.qml#L278
[15:35] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, for an example
[15:37] <rickspencer3> wow, that looks pretty complicated
[15:37] <rickspencer3> I expected it would be more like traditional dialog code
[15:37] <renatu> charles_, any update on silo 8?
[15:37] <rickspencer3> "system please let me pick a document"
[15:37] <kenvandine> you could use a dialog there if you like
[15:37] <kenvandine> my example uses a page
[15:37] <renatu> charles_, can we build it again?
[15:37] <charles_> renatu, in a meeting, will ping you ack
[15:37] <kenvandine> but, some folks have had problems using a dialog
[15:37] <charles_> renatu, yes, will do
[15:38] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, well, what I mean by that is that most systems have a few lines of code to accomplish this
[15:38] <rickspencer3> and one or maybe 2 objects
[15:38] <kenvandine> it's just one component for the peer picker
[15:38] <kenvandine> ContentPeerPicker
[15:39] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, not sure what you mean
[15:39] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, let me ask the question differently ...
[15:39] <rickspencer3> if I want to allow the user to import a text file, what is the easiest way to do that?
[15:39] <kenvandine> you can use the ContentPeerPicker any way you like, but i prefer in as a Page
[15:40] <kenvandine> s/in/it/
[15:40] <kenvandine> the ContentPeerPicker will show the available apps to import for the type
[15:40] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, I still don't understand, sorry
[15:40] <kenvandine> :)
[15:40] <rickspencer3> CotentPeerPicker is a component that I need to host in the UI somewhere
[15:41] <rickspencer3> ?
[15:41] <kenvandine> yes
[15:41] <kenvandine> i like to use it as a page on the pagestack
[15:41] <kenvandine> it's designed to be full screen
[15:42] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, oh, I have tabs in my UI, so I thought a page stack was not good for that
[15:42] <rickspencer3> like, hard to mix page stacks and tabs
[15:42] <kenvandine> i haven't used tabs lately
[15:42] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, in any case, so I need to create a contentPeerPicker
[15:42] <kenvandine> but you could just make it fill the current tab
[15:42] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:42] <rickspencer3> then I need to set up connections?
[15:43] <charles> renatu, silo 8 build restarted
[15:43] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:43] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, that code looks very complicated
[15:43] <kenvandine> you just need to know when activeTransfer is charged
[15:43] <kenvandine> so just one signal you care about
[15:43] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, and inside that signal I handle the text file that I got?
[15:44] <rickspencer3> so I need 2 objects
[15:44] <kenvandine> you get the item out of the items
[15:44] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:44] <rickspencer3> ok
[15:44] <kenvandine> ContentTransfer.items will be a list of ContentItem
[15:44] <kenvandine> ContentItem.url will be the file uri
[15:44] <rickspencer3> ok
[15:45] <rickspencer3> let me give it a try with the simple case, just a content peer picker and a connections
[15:45] <kenvandine> let me know how it goes
[15:46] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, so, I just let the peer picker live at app start up, and make it visible in some way at the user's request?
[15:46] <kenvandine> sure
[15:57] <kalikiana> t1mp: damn, you're finding good stuff. and even though it wasn't the solution your comment led me to find a way to ditch the sleep! https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/orientationManual/+merge/254753
[15:59] <mhall119> zsombi_: t1mp: Ubuntu.Components.ListItems.Standard.hovered doesn't seem to work for me
[15:59] <mhall119> I put an onHoveredChanged on my list item delegate, and it's never triggered
[16:00] <mhall119> zsombi_: setting the ListView.currentIndex did work to enable keyboard navigation,but I can't make it change the style of the delegate to show the user which one has focus
[16:01] <mhall119> neither selected nor hovered seem to change
[16:02] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, so, you can't use ContentPeerPicker in a dialog, and you can't use PageStack with tabs, so, you can't use ContentPeerPicker with tabs?
[16:03] <renatu> charles, thanks
[16:04] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, i'm sure you can
[16:04] <kenvandine> Elleo, ^^
[16:04] <kenvandine> have you seen anything using it with tabs?
[16:04] <rickspencer3> ok, let me kick the qml around a bit
[16:05] <Elleo> rickspencer3: you can use the peer picker in a dialog, there's an example of that in the webbrowser-app
[16:05] <mhall119> rickspencer3: you can use pagestack with tabs under a very narrow set of circumstances
[16:05] <kenvandine> Elleo, but didn't the address book app run into problems in a dialog?
[16:05] <Elleo> rickspencer3: well, inside a popover anyway
[16:05] <rickspencer3> does it now seem like we should have a picker dialog component that just does all this easily?
[16:05] <Elleo> kenvandine: that's fixed
[16:05] <kenvandine> ah right
[16:06] <Elleo> kenvandine: that was due to us not setting the parent on the dialog iirc
[16:06] <Elleo> kenvandine: so it didn't get destroyed properly
[16:06] <kenvandine> yeah, i remember now
[16:06] <rickspencer3> ok, if a page inside the dialog and put the picker inside the page, it mostly works
[16:14] <t1mp> kalikiana: let me see what you did..
[16:18] <t1mp> kalikiana: do you still need the rotating.wait_for(False)?
[16:19] <t1mp> mhall119: that comes from this line in AbstractButton: property bool hovered: __acceptEvents && mouseArea.containsMouse
[16:19] <t1mp> mhall119: not sure what could break it.. perhaps ListViews do something weird?
[16:20] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, so, I got this far:
[16:20] <rickspencer3> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rick-rickspencer3/+junk/flash2/view/head:/components/ImportDialog.qml
[16:21] <t1mp> mhall119: the "selected" property you have to set to true.. then a Rectangle should be rendered at the background of the list item
[16:21] <kalikiana> t1mp: hmmm maybe not, I'll check
[16:21] <rickspencer3> but in the emulator, the contentpeerpicker always says that nothing can offer the content type
[16:21] <rickspencer3> I tried Documents, All, and Pictures
[16:21] <rickspencer3> and I installed the file browser
[16:26] <kalikiana> t1mp: indeed it's no longer needed, pushed
[16:28] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, so you doesn't seen any apps, weird
[16:28] <t1mp> kalikiana: thanks, looks good
[16:28] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, do you think it could be because it is on the emulator?
[16:29] <kenvandine> shouldn't be
[16:29] <kenvandine> you have gallery installed, so Pictures should certainly show gallery
[16:29] <kenvandine> Elleo, ^^ thoughts on rickspencer3's peer picker in a dialog?
[16:29] <rickspencer3> let me actually make sure that gallery is installed
[16:30] <Elleo> rickspencer3: do you have the content_exchange permission?
[16:30] <kenvandine> oh!
[16:30] <kenvandine> haha
[16:30] <rickspencer3> d'oh
[16:30] <Elleo> :)
[16:30] <kenvandine> i should have asked that first :)
[16:30] <rickspencer3> every. damn. time.
[16:30] <Elleo> heh
[16:31] <Elleo> it'd be nice if the SDK monitored the syslog for denials and prompted developers about the permissions they're missing for features they're using
[16:31] <rickspencer3> still not working
[16:31] <Elleo> rickspencer3: have you bumped up the version number? not sure if permission changes get accounted for if the package version hasn't changed
[16:32] <Elleo> iirc that used to be the case, not sure if it still is
[16:32] <rickspencer3> well, I'm just running it from the sdk, but I'll try bumping the version
[16:32] <Elleo> ah yeah, the SDK should do a complete uninstall I think, so shouldn't hit that
[16:32] <rickspencer3> \o/
[16:32] <bzoltan> Elleo: your idea just landed on the SDK feature pool
[16:32] <Elleo> bzoltan: awesome :)
[16:33] <rickspencer3> Elleo, bumping the version did it
[16:33] <Elleo> rickspencer3: ah, great :)
[16:33] <rickspencer3> so, maybe later this week, I'll see if I can turn my dialog into something reusable
[16:33] <rickspencer3> seems liked you should be able to go:
[16:33] <rickspencer3> ImportDialog {
[16:34] <rickspencer3> onContentSelected: {}
[16:34] <rickspencer3> }
[16:34] <Elleo> yeah, might be good to have some slightly higher level API for common content picking cases
[16:35] <rickspencer3> I would default to ContentType.All, but let the developer change that
[16:37] <mhall119> zsombi_: I got it working, I have to call forceActiveFocus() on the PageStack.currentPage every time it changed, should this be the default behavior?
[16:38] <kalikiana> btw does contenthub have any list of past files? or does it have to be maintained by the app?
[16:42] <Elleo> kalikiana: content-hub forgets about transfers as soon as they're completed/aborted
[16:44] <kalikiana> Elleo: so that means the list used in the examples is something I'd have to save in u1db? https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.Content.ContentHub/
[16:45] <Elleo> kalikiana: what're you wanting to store the transfer info for?
[16:46] <kalikiana> Elleo: long term I'd like my app to be able to edit files, and display a list of files to open
[16:49] <Elleo> kalikiana: you don't really need a list of the past transfers though do you? just list the files in the directory you're storing incoming files in?
[16:49] <kalikiana> Elleo: hmm effectively yes
[16:51] <kalikiana> now that you mention it, I could probably use http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qt-labs-folderlistmodel-folderlistmodel.html
[16:51] <kalikiana> thanks!
[16:52] <Elleo> kalikiana: cool :)
[16:53] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, Elleo may I assume that if I have this url, I can simply open the file and read it now?
[16:53] <rickspencer3> file:///home/phablet/.cache/flash.rickspencer3/HubIncoming/5/text.txt
[16:53] <rickspencer3> i.e. it's working up the point where my app has access to the file?
[16:54] <Elleo> rickspencer3: yep
[16:54] <rickspencer3> \o/
[16:55] <rickspencer3> good point at which to take a break :)
[16:56] <Elleo> :)
[17:18] <mhall119> Elleo: kenvandine: what's the proper way of getting a file out of ~/.cache/ and into the app's folder when transfering via content hub?
[17:31] <kenvandine> mhall119, ContentItem.move()
[17:41] <mhall119> kenvandine: does that return true if the move fails but the fallback to copy succeeds?
[17:41] <DS-McGuire> ballons, you are in the Help App team correct?
[17:41] <kenvandine> mhall119, i think so
[17:46] <kenvandine> mhall119, basically it returns true if the file ends up in the place you expected it to be
[18:02] <mhall119> ok, I think my issue is with U1db then
[18:43] <zsombi_> [17:31:38] <mhall119> zsombi_: BTW, instead of linking to upstream, you can link to our version of the docs: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/QtQuick.Keys/
[18:45] <zsombi_> mhall119: tbh, it was easier for me to find it on Qt.io... our doc is pretty messy...
[18:45] <zsombi_> [19:00:15] <mhall119> zsombi_: setting the ListView.currentIndex did work to enable keyboard navigation,but I can't make it change the style of the delegate to show the user which one has focus
[18:45] <zsombi_> mhall119: as said, we don't have any hint from design on how shoudl we show the focus
[18:48] <mhall119> zsombi_: our doc will be getting better shortly
[18:48] <zsombi_> [19:38:03] <mhall119> zsombi_: I got it working, I have to call forceActiveFocus() on the PageStack.currentPage every time it changed, should this be the default behavior?
[18:48] <zsombi_> mhall119: nope
[18:49] <mhall119> zsombi_: is there any way *I* can define how to show focus? I believe I could if one of the ListItem.Standard's properties changed
[18:50] <zsombi_> mhall119: That'll be really nice... the "under development" is reeeeaaallllly outdated, the Ubuntu.Components
[18:50] <zsombi_> mhall119: you can "define" by drawing somethiong if a component is focus... it should be done on StyledItem level
[18:51] <mhall119> zsombi_: the "under development" is still in the docs packages
[18:51] <zsombi_> mhall119: I meant this https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/development/
[18:51] <zsombi_> mhall119: I cannot see the other
[18:52] <mhall119> zsombi_: everything on that part of the site is imported from doc packages in the archive
[18:52] <mhall119> zsombi_: so ubuntu-ui-toolkit-doc in utopic's archive
[18:52] <zsombi_> mhall119: my only concern is that both the stable and the development snapshot docs are the same :(
[18:53] <zsombi_> so one cannot be sure what is a stable and a development doc
[18:53] <mhall119> zsombi_: both "current" and "development" URLs point to the same docs right now
[18:54] <mhall119> because the current stable framework version is also the most recent framework version
[18:54] <mhall119> unless bzoltan has created a ubuntu-sdk-15.04 framework
[18:54] <zsombi_> mhall119: yeah... and we've already released 1.2, which belongs to 15.04...
[18:54] <zsombi_> and you cannot see those docs anywhere
[18:54] <mhall119> zsombi_: but there's no way for app devs to target that
[18:54] <mhall119> so there are no docs telling them to try
[18:55] <zsombi_> mhall119: even the 14.10 is not up to date
[18:55] <mhall119> again, once we have a new framework defined that includes those updates, we can upload the docs for it
[18:55] <mhall119> zsombi_: what is out of date?
[18:55] <zsombi_> mhall119: ServiceProperties component is missing, Haptics singleton as well...
[18:56] <zsombi_> mhall119: it should be under Ubuntu.Components
[18:56] <mhall119> Ubuntu.Components.ServiceProperties?
[18:57] <bzoltan> mhall119: I am not the one who creates frameworks. lool is the one.
[18:57] <zsombi_> mhall119: yes, as component
[18:58] <mhall119> zsombi_: is it in ubuntu-ui-toolkit-doc in utopic's archive?
[18:58] <zsombi_> as well as Ubuntu.Components.Haptics
[18:59] <mhall119> zsombi_: ubuntu-ui-toolkit-doc_1.1.1279+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1_all.deb is what I'm using
[18:59] <ahoneybun> unity-voice-service
[18:59] <mhall119> I don't see either component in the extracted .deb package
[19:00] <zsombi_> mhall119: that' sbad, we had to release them post-RTM deadline for the OtherVibrate feature support...
[19:01] <zsombi_> mhall119: it might have been released later than 7th of October
[19:01] <zsombi_> mhall119: but yes, it had been released for 1.1, so should be there
[19:03] <mhall119> zsombi_: update the doc file in the archive and it will get imported
[19:04] <zsombi_> mhall119: ok, however you might need to use some later package if available
[19:04] <zsombi_> mhall119: we had to add API later due to some unplanned features...
[19:05] <mhall119> zsombi_: tell me where I can download the package from
[19:06] <zsombi_> mhall119: uhh... I have to check that, I'll let U know tomorrow
[19:27] <renatu> Mirv, ping
[19:52] <nik90> mhall119: it is possible to target Ubuntu.Components 1.2 using the 14.10 framework on the 15.04 devel images
[19:52] <nik90> mhall119: and considering that RTM will rebase on vivid soon, it should also be visible in the docs for developers to prepare for that
[19:56] <balloons> nik90, where are you at with clock app and tests? did everything get sorted or no?
[19:58] <nik90> balloons: Sry I haven't sorted it out and frankly I am not getting the motivation to fix that.
[19:59] <nik90> Part of why I have just fixed some other minor stuff in the clock.
[19:59] <nik90> sry
[19:59] <balloons> nik90, I'm not here to beat you into submission :-) Just wondering if you needed help or not. Sounds like it's morphed into something quite painful
[20:01] <nik90> balloons: I know, but I am just feeling guilty for not putting more effort into it. Its just that the whole bootstrapping thing is way too much work and I have some serious issues with vivid on the phone where I can no longer develop apps without constantly rebooting my phone.
[20:01] <balloons> If there's anything you want to point me at, feel free to. I'll slot some time to have a look at it this week. And don't worry, I won't bug you further about it :-)
[20:01] <balloons> nik90, that's not great news to hear, but it is honest. Obviously that's not something that can continue
[20:02] <mhall119> nik90: Ubuntu.Components 1.2 was not part of the 14.10 framework, so we can't tell if a given device that has the 14.10 framework also has the 1.2 components
[20:04] <nik90> balloons: I don't know why others aren't noticing bug 1429415, but it really annoys the hell out of me. and that's partly why I am avoiding vivid unless I am absolutely required to test a clock app MP on it.
[20:05] <nik90> mhall119: hmm that's true..I guess that boils down to the lack of a official ubuntu-sdk-15.10-dev1 framework.
[20:12] <mhall119> yup
[20:24] <newsages> hi all
[20:27] <newsages> if I have one QJsonArray on C++ where is the best mode to store? 1 U1db document for all array or x Document for x rows in Array?
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[05:14] <Ionic> hi
[05:14] <Ionic> stupid question: how do I get the build logs for packages built on launchpaid?
[05:14] <Ionic> s/paid/pad/
[05:16] <Ionic> hm, maybe via the "built" link in a package detail view
[05:16] <Ionic> ah, indeed, there's a buildlog
[10:11] <rbasak> pitti: in bug 1347859, there's a claim that systemd is doing things to do with biosdevname in addition to the biosdevname package on some distributions. Do you know if this is accurate for Ubuntu?
[10:18] <rbasak> cjwatson: looking at ^^ bug. Am I right in understanding that the intention was to never introduce biosdevname interface renaming on distribution upgrades? The reporter seems to claim it happened, but I see no relevant code that was cause it to happen. Presumably he shouldn't have had biosdevname installed before the upgrade and not after either, as the only thing that installs it is the installer?
[10:19] <mantas-baltix> hi devs ;)
[11:11] <tseliot> Riddell: so, I've filed LP: #1443364 , which only affects hybrid graphics and systemd. All users should be affected, regardless of the desktop environment. I wrote about a manual workaround in LP: #1428328
[11:13] <Riddell> bug 1443364
[11:47] <ogra_> pitti, poke ...
[11:54] <mantas-baltix> Hi, I stuck on important issue with building packages from recipe - can't build package imported from GIT - bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.NoSuchRevision: CHKInventoryRepository
[11:54] <mantas-baltix> This issue exists for few months and other people also are affected, see https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/264781
[11:54] <mantas-baltix> and bug #1433680
[12:04] <mantas-baltix> bug is reported a month ago, 2 answers are asked, what should I do?
[13:14] <cjwatson> rbasak: I haven't looked at the details, but I don't *think* we meant to introduce this on upgrades
[13:17] <rbasak> cjwatson: thanks. I don't see how we might have introduced it on upgrades either, but I might have missed something.
[13:18] <pitti> Good morning!
[13:18] <pitti> rbasak: in Debian/Ubuntu we disable the predictable interface names (similar, but not identical to biosdevname) by default; you can enable them wit net.ifnames=1
[13:19] <rbasak> pitti: OK. Thanks!
[13:19] <rbasak> I'll write an initial response in the bug.
[13:20] <pitti> rbasak: I'll have a look at the bug and follow up there
[13:21] <pitti> ogra_: hey
[13:22] <ogra_> pitti, so i just wasted half my day waiting for a one line fix in initrd to migrate from -proposed ... what is the reason we do two fill kernel builds as part of the migration test ?
[13:22] <ogra_> initramfs-tools shouldnt have anything to do with kernel builds ...
[13:23] <ogra_> pitti, also, while watching that, i was looking at the boot test on krillin ... it doesnt seem like we ever actually boot the initrd that gets produced by the package ... what are we testing there ?
[13:24] <pitti> ogra_: ah, in urgent cases you can certainly ask the RT to push that through faster
[13:24] <pitti> ogra_: apparently initramfs-tools depends on kernel packages, we do reverse dep testing
[13:24] <ogra_> pitti, by doin a complet binary build of the dep ?
[13:24] <ogra_> that seems the wrong way round
[13:25] <pitti> ogra_: ah yes, that certainly isn't necessary for initramfs-tools uploads
[13:25] <ogra_> right ... do we have some kind of overrdie file that we could add this to ?
[13:25] <pitti> ogra_: we added that mostly for the purpose of testing gcc, binutils, glibc uploads
[13:26] <pitti> ogra_: not right now; we can add a "reason why this test is running" once we have non-retarded infrastructure to run these tests, and indeed the linux triggers come up every other week
[13:26] <pitti> but not with our current CI system, I'm afraid :(
[13:26] <ogra_> :(
[13:26] <ogra_> ok
[13:26] <ogra_> pitti, what about the boot tests ... what do they actually test ?
[13:27] <pitti> ogra_: these are vila's; I think they mostly just instsall the proposed package on a touch image and see that it still boots and ends up in unity
[13:27] <ogra_> i dont see anything replace the initrd on the device (and it wouldnt be possible on krillin without a complete device tarball build)
[13:27] <pitti> (I don't know what exactly they do, I'm afraid)
[13:27] <ogra_> ah
[13:27] <ogra_> so for initramfs-tools that would be pointelss as well
[13:28] <ogra_> (at leats on phones)
[13:34] <pitti> ogra_: I thought boot tests are triggered by packages which are installed on touch; is it?
[13:34] <pitti> ogra_: but perhaps CI has a blacklist for such cases
[13:35] <ogra_> yeah, that would be nice
[13:35] <ogra_> currently that test (in case of initramfs-tools) is just uselessly wasting time
[13:40] <pitti> rbasak: oh, that bug is old, and not systemd specific; so it's rathe specific to ubuntu server which has installed biosdevname for a while?
[13:43] <rbasak> pitti: looking back (I've linked from the bug), all our alternate installers have been installing biosdevname for a while.
[14:16] <pitti> tseliot: the u-d-c fix was just accepted by the RT team FYI
[14:16] <tseliot> pitti: great. Thanks again!
[14:16] <tseliot> Riddell: the fix for the hybrid graphics issue ^
[14:40] <pitti> smoser, infinity: all the wolfe VMs seem to be AWOL; do you have a minute to have a look?
[14:42] <fionnan> Anyone getting `ERROR: Could not generate AppArmor profile for docker_docker_1.5.0.002.json...` when installing docker on a fresh snappy instance? Traceback here: http://pastebin.com/ChQmLUmq
[14:51] <seb128> pitti, I don't remember now, did you see/reply to my ping about langpack updates in vivid?
[14:51] <pitti> seb128: I don't think so
[14:52] <pitti> seb128: but anyway, they should be fine again now; we just got a new export from LP
[14:52] <pitti> seb128: so the next cron run (Tue morning CET) ought to work
[14:52] <seb128> pitti, Colin said on friday you need to trigger an export
[14:52] <pitti> seb128: it's on my radar
[14:52] <seb128> oh ok
[14:52] <seb128> great
[14:52] <seb128> thanks
[15:19] <flexiondotorg> ricotz, Do the new versions of Plank/Docky have the zoom animation when you hover/move over the dock?
[15:34] <ricotz> flexiondotorg, hi, no ( btw there is #plank )
[15:38] * flexiondotorg joins #plank
[18:49] <elopio> cyphermox: when you have some time, can you please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1441893 ?
[19:07] <caribou> Laney: I have just rechecked Bug #1442235 regarding InDep depencancies
[19:07] <Laney> caribou: It's uploaded
[19:08] <caribou> Laney: oh, great. I reran the tests only to find out that I was overriding build_arch_all in my .rc file
[19:08] <caribou> Laney: thanks a lot !
[19:10] <Laney> caribou: It's a difference in which rules targets are called between precise & trusty - search for "debian/rules" in the build logs to see
[19:10] <Laney> no problem!
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[14:57] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: poke. still around?
[15:03] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Yo
[15:04] <flexiondotorg> flexiondotorg, Nope. I couldn't get any useful output via a tty. I've not had the chance to look today :(
[15:20] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: ok, but it looks like things are working nicely here in a VM for whatever weird reason
[15:20] <cyphermox> oh wait, you're talking about oem
[15:21] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: wondering if you want to give a try to checking my fix for casper reboot from the liveCD
[15:21] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I can totally do that.
[15:21] <cyphermox> ok, I'll get you the details
[15:21] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Ping me the info :)
[15:22] <cyphermox> so, you'll want to try to install https://launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+archive/ubuntu/installer-dev/+sourcepub/4941695/+listing-archive-extra on a liveCD
[15:22] <cyphermox> that or apply the diff once it's available
[15:24] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Can I apply that by boot the live session and installing the required packages?
[15:24] <cyphermox> yes
[15:25] <cyphermox> it's only changing something that runs on shutdown
[15:25] <flexiondotorg> Do I need to remaster the iso?
[15:25] <cyphermox> nope
[15:25] <flexiondotorg> Cool.
[15:25] * flexiondotorg goes testing.
[15:25] <cyphermox> you should be able to even add-apt-repository && apt update && apt install casper
[15:26] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, That was my plan.
[15:49] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, http://imgur.com/TOspsIs
[15:49] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I clicked restart and briefly saw some shutdown message but no option to press enter to eject media.
[15:49] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Then what you see in the image above.
[15:49] <cyphermox> yeah, something got broken there, I'm not sure
[15:49] <cyphermox> maybe bad iso?
[15:49] <cyphermox> *sigh*
[15:50] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, But no automatic reboot.
[15:50] <cyphermox> well, no
[15:50] <cyphermox> that message would break things badly
[15:50] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, zsync say the iso is good.
[15:50] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, That was i386.
[15:50] <flexiondotorg> I'll test again on amd64.
[15:50] <cyphermox> ok
[16:11] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Same on amd64 :(
[16:12] <cyphermox> boo
[16:12] <cyphermox> oh well
[16:12] <cyphermox> was that in VMs?
[16:12] <cyphermox> or on actual hardware?
[16:15] <cyphermox> maybe it really does need to be on a remastered iso
[16:34] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, In VMs
[16:34] <cyphermox> virtualbox then?
[16:35] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Yes, at work now. So VirtualBox.
[16:43] <cyphermox> ok
[16:44] <cyphermox> well, it looks like it works in qemu, this is troubling
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-ops
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[12:08] <krabador> excuse me, i would know if that http://chat.ubuntu-it.org/ , with wrong redirect, depends from international Ubuntu site administrators
[12:24] <krabador> am i voiced?
[12:25] <popey> krabador: looks like it's hosted by canonical, but I don't know who in the Ubuntu-IT community manages it..
[12:25] <krabador> popey: yes , a staff, i asked , but 2 days of nothing
[12:26] <popey> does anyone in #ubuntu-it know who looks after the site?
[12:27] <krabador> for that i would ask directly to administrators
[13:45] <bazhang> starts by calling everyone a-holes after no one goes for the PM plz support
[13:46] <bazhang> all guides tried, nothing worked
[13:46] <bazhang> irc too fast, oh wait I have to switch machines now
[14:06] <Pici> bazhang: they're using the webchat, I wonder if it is embedded in some page somewhere that it making it not "fullscreen" like normal.
[14:06] <bazhang> still no basic answers , just more delays
[14:07] <bazhang> he wants the full elegant ubuntu gnome experience on an ancient intel card, 2gb ram, 10yr old lappy
[14:08] <bazhang> @random gimmepony gimmeHURD
[14:09] <bazhang> refuses all offers of help in channel, all suggestions, must be via PM
[17:47] <teward> can someone banforward in #ubuntu to ##fix_your_connection on this guy?
[17:47] <teward> [2015-04-13 13:46:42] * Mike9863 (~Mike9863@2600:1001:b027:26d9:3cd4:4e6:3c0e:cf8b) has joined #ubuntu
[17:47] <teward> [2015-04-13 13:46:43] * Mike9863 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[17:47] <teward> (repeatedly doing that)
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-arm
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[14:58] <ars23> one question: what can be the cause of message: [ 18.254389] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: hardware isn't capable of remote wakeup
[15:02] <genii> ars23: Sounds like the driver tries to enable WOL but the hardware doesn't support it.
[15:04] <ars23> yes, seems so... I also read that can be a power issue ( not enough amps) but it's strange that this problem appeared only 2 days ago and because of it i cannot configure internet on a rasperry that I use as a development board
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[01:14] <Unit193> OLF planning meeting, btw.
[11:18] <dzho> #ohiolinux is one of those channels that never quite makes it into my irssi settings
[19:59] <Unit193> My OFTC irssi basically just has a text file with /join #foo, I need to actually setup proper autojoins.
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-design
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[12:39] <rpadovani> Hi all :-) I'm looking for an HR image of vivid vervet, to insert it on a LoCo team website. Something like http://ubuntu-it.org/sites/default/files/features/ubuntu/screenshots/welcome.jpg
[12:39] <rpadovani> (but with a vervet and not a thar :-)
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-us-dc
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[17:27] <swift110> hey all
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2015-04-13-#bzr
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[14:47] <sidi_> I forked a branch, added some commits into my own fork, and I now need to merge new commits from the original parent I forked. What would be the correct command to do this?
[14:49] <fullermd> Just 'bzr merge' should do it.
[14:51] <sidi_> fullermd, thanks! that did it
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[00:36] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: ok, builds are a happening, we'll see if any fail but I don't think they should since they completed on vivid https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+recipe/xmltv-daily
[00:39] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: I think* that technically those daily builds should be called 0.5.66, but it's just a cosmetic change
[00:42] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: yep, all successful, you should be able to update now
[10:52] <mythtv> Is there an auto-ban on webchat.freenode.net users at #mythtv & #mythtv-users ? Otherwise I have no clue why I can't get in.
[10:54] <mythtv> hmm, apparently my name is 'mythtv'.. must be some somewonkyness in between qwebirc and herbert.freenode.net
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-no
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[08:46] <RoyK> Malinux: fikk du til vhs rip? med bare usb-tv-dingsen?
[08:47] <Malinux> jepp, men da gikk jeg opp på kernel 3.19, men mulig det skal gå med 3.18 også
[08:48] <Malinux> valgte video camera i stedet for analog tv som input i vlc
[08:48] <Malinux> og wii-en var stilt inn på 480i i stedet for 576i, slik at det forklarer hvorfor jeg måtte stille den på ntsc for å fange noe opp, men rettet det opp i wii-en
[08:48] <Malinux> så det så
[08:49] <RoyK> ...så da er det bare å sette igang med å rippe for å bli kvitt VHS-driten en gang for alle? ;)
[17:23] <shazzr> Malinux: Hvilken USB-tv-dings har du?
[18:09] <Malinux> shazzr: jeg har Fushicai USBTV007 Video Grabber
[18:09] <Malinux> er denne jeg kjøpte: http://www.ps.no/LIFEVIEW-Not-Only-TV-Video-Editor-USB-Deluxe--Audio-Video-grabber/cat-p/c/p10624692
[18:41] <geirha> hihi, post-it med passord på veggen ... under tv-intervju :)
[18:41] <geirha> http://e24.no/digital/denne-giganttabben-gjorde-at-is-klarte-aa-hacke-fransk-tv-stasjonen/23433691
[18:49] <RoyK> geirha: *flire* :D
[19:03] <hjd> http://act.osdc.no/osdc2015no/ Open source konferanse i Oslo om ca. en måned. :) Bla. egne spor for Perl og Qt.
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-ar
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[13:58] <buenaventura> buenas o/
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2015-04-13-#launchpad
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[10:25] <mantas-baltix> hi
[10:27] <mantas-baltix> I stuck on important issue with building packages from recipe - can't build package imported from GIT - bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.NoSuchRevision: CHKInventoryRepository
[10:28] <mantas-baltix> This issue exists for few months and other people also are affected, see https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/264781
[10:28] <mantas-baltix> and bug #1433680
[10:44] <mantas-baltix> bug is reported a month ago, 2 answers are asked, what should I do?
[11:51] <mantas-baltix> menesis: labas
[11:52] <menesis> labas, Mantai
[14:35] <mantas-baltix> I stuck on important issue with building packages from recipe - can't build package imported from GIT - bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.NoSuchRevision: CHKInventoryRepository
[14:35] <mantas-baltix> This issue exists for few months and other people also are affected, see https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/264781
[14:35] <mantas-baltix> and bug #1433680
[14:36] <mantas-baltix> I asked about this launchpad problem few hours ago but didn't got any answer
[14:40] <mantas-baltix> how I can help to solve this issue?
[15:06] <cjwatson> mantas-baltix: You might find somebody in #bzr who can untangle what's wrong with the bzr repository here, but realistically I suspect this will be fixed by adding some kind of native Git recipe building support ...
[15:07] <cjwatson> mantas-baltix: "bzr check --verbose lp:~baltix/atomix/atomix-debian" shows some inconsistencies, so it might be possible to disentangle. I don't know enough bzr internals though
[15:11] <mantas-baltix> cjwatson: thanks for info, but the same build problem appears not only with lp:~baltix/atomix/atomix-debian but also with other repos, imported from git, see bug #1433680
[15:36] <cjwatson> mantas-baltix: Ah, I think the problem is that the upstream tag is bad
[15:37] <cjwatson> You can see it in "bzr tags", with some tags showing a question mark
[15:38] <cjwatson> mantas-baltix: If you want to help track this down, perhaps see if running a bzr-git import locally on the same repository yields the same incorrect tags
[15:44] <cjwatson> bzr-git being broken in vivid isn't helping matters
[15:47] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10816614/
[15:47] <dobey> it doesn't help that developers who use git sometimes often like to rebase directly in master or whatever, after an MP was merged in. i've had weird things happen before as a result of that, when building with recipes on lp
[15:48] <cjwatson> So that's going to take bzr-git debugging
[15:48] <cjwatson> Rebasing isn't relevant here
[15:48] <cjwatson> Or maybe the git tag is just broken, I guess I should check that
[16:00] <dobey> well, sometimes tags get dropped when people rebase i guess. the worst problme i've had from rebasing though is that the bzr revno ends up being the same as it was for a previous build, and the upload fails, even though there were new revisions.
[16:01] <cjwatson> This is not rebases, please stop derailing
[16:02] <cjwatson> The problem is the upstream tag pointing to something not in the specific branch being imported
[16:02] <cjwatson> But that's not because of a rebase
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2015-04-13-#kubuntu
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[00:53] <gunndawg> darthanubis: 0/
[01:28] <gazalam> Anyone else have an issue with the update for 15.04 today? My desktop is black after I log in. Nothing is displayed except for the update manager
[01:29] <gazalam> if I put the cursor in the top left it still shows the blue glow to get to the task switcher
[01:39] <Syco54645> hello, running the latest beta of kubuntu and having an issue getting my terminal to load my .profile file by default
[02:06] <Erthe> Hey folks. Does anyone know of a way to enable global keyboard shortcuts to kmail?
[02:18] <drdoom> is there a default way to do desktop sharing (vnc or the like) in kubuntu 14.10?
[02:21] <Erthe> KRDC
[02:21] <Erthe> Launcher > Applications Tab --> Internet -> Remote Desktop Sharing
[02:22] <Erthe> Although, that's the client.
[02:23] <drdoom> correct, I don't care about the client. I need a server
[02:24] <Erthe> I've used this too: https://www.nomachine.com/download/linux&id=1
[02:24] <Erthe> Free for personal use.
[02:25] <drdoom> Erthe: I appreciate that but with NX you then have to have a separate NX client as well
[02:25] <drdoom> if I really want to be involved, I could do x2go
[02:25] <Erthe> You'll need a client either way drdoom
[02:25] <Erthe> VNC is available on Kubuntu
[02:25] <drdoom> I believe the default ubuntu has what is effectively a builtin vnc server via a checkbox
[02:26] <drdoom> the issue isn't the alternatives. it's trying to make it as simple as possible for a user who knows jack about remote desktop sharing on their end
[02:26] <drdoom> assume this user is like a grandmother without any experience
[02:26] <Erthe> VNC client is pretty easy to use.
[02:27] <Erthe> https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-14.04
[02:27] <Erthe> That should point you in the right direction.
[02:27] <drdoom> yes, I have used the clients for years. but last time I messed with vnc server on linux, it didn't do as expected. I don't remember all the details
[02:27] <Erthe> Configuration of most services under Linux have become much easier to work with in the last few years.
[02:28] <Erthe> And that howto should provide you with all you need.
[02:28] <drdoom> if I have to get into the box and do it myself, that's ok. I like the standard ubuntu idea of making a vnc server via checkbox immediately active and ready to go outside of configuring the router for port forwarding
[02:29] <Erthe> There may be options like that for KDE too, I don't use it.
[02:29] <drdoom> I can neither ssh in or vnc/rdp/nx/x2go at the moment. what about things like gotomeeting, have you guys tested that for something quick and simple?
[02:29] <Erthe> GoToMeeting uses a Win32 plugin.
[02:29] <drdoom> yeah, I'm looking for people with kde experience for exactly this reason. I don't see anything obvious searching around
[02:30] <Erthe> But you could Wine it and do it through Pipelight
[02:30] <drdoom> doesn't have to be gotomeeting, teamviewer, webex, etc
[02:30] <Erthe> Why can't you SSH into the box?
[02:30] <drdoom> no port forward
[02:30] <Erthe> That's a networking issue in any configuration.
[02:30] <drdoom> of course
[02:31] <Erthe> You'd have to use a browser-based plugin that can't share data over http
[02:31] <Erthe> *can share
[02:31] <drdoom> coulda woulda shoulda. the idea is that we have a challenge with a user who knows very little and a need to remote in
[02:31] <Erthe> Best case scenario if you have to support it, is do support intervals.
[02:31] <Erthe> With Kubuntu you can design the desktop as you see fit.
[02:32] <Erthe> You could make it incredibly simple.
[02:33] <Erthe> Does your side of the fence have the capability to forward ports by IP?
[02:34] * Erthe has an idea.
[02:35] <drdoom> yes
[02:35] <drdoom> reverse listen?
[02:42] <drdoom> In any event, thanks for the help Erthe
[02:43] <drdoom> maybe I should just play around with vnc server again when I am able to get back to that box
[02:54] <Erthe> drdoom: You could setup a script on the opposite end that exports the X display to your location and runs a terminal.
[02:54] <Erthe> So you'd end up getting a Konsole window in your X display.
[02:54] <Erthe> That's local to the remote box.
[02:55] <drdoom> right, but then x server runs without encryption, which needs ssh, etc
[02:55] <drdoom> I will eventually be able to get back to that box, but this is more a thought experiment on how to help people in these situations
[02:55] <drdoom> :D
[02:56] <drdoom> something like join.me or gotomeeting aren't really possible since they don't have linux non-exe plugins, but they would be great for a temporary way in to port forward and setup vnc, etc
[02:56] <drdoom> teaching myself more about x forwarding with a vm now, neat stuff
[02:57] <Erthe> With respect to gtm or join.me you *can* install the plugin through pipelight
[02:57] <Erthe> Well, through wine, and run it with pipelight.
[02:57] <drdoom> not familiar with that
[02:57] <drdoom> ok, so it wants wine
[02:57] <Erthe> pipelight runs silverlight apps in linux browsers
[02:57] <drdoom> oh ok
[02:58] <Erthe> So if it's a Silverlight app for join.me, it's possible
[02:58] <drdoom> are gotomeeting and the like effectively using silverlight?
[02:58] <Erthe> Well, I don't know, but if one of them does that's an open route to take.
[02:58] <drdoom> I see
[02:59] <drdoom> looks like all I really need is to make sure I install openssh-server and port forward along with fail2ban when I'm on location
[02:59] <Erthe> Yup.
[02:59] <drdoom> then I can either ssh directly or x forward an app I might need
[02:59] <Erthe> I want Mumble to get screen sharing.
[02:59] <drdoom> I would normally do this but it's my brother I hadn't seen in a long time and he twisted my arm into getting drunk
[02:59] <Erthe> That'll solve a lot of issues.
[02:59] <drdoom> :D
[03:00] <Erthe> Hope you find your solution :D
[03:00] <drdoom> thanks for bouncing ideas back to me
[03:01] <Erthe> With *nix, if there isn't a solution, create one. And no problem.
[03:03] <drdoom> true true. I like the idea of setting up a kde desktop that's what I need it to be universally
[03:04] <Erthe> I wish KDE had a cloud service to store all of my desktop settings so, when I reinstall or in the event of a system disaster, I can resync my settings.
[03:05] <drdoom> how do we stop showing join and parts in the web irc client?
[03:06] <drdoom> probably not a bad idea for the settings although doesn't ubuntu use ubuntu one for stuff like that?
[03:06] <drdoom> linux mint has something but I believe it's just a local backup
[03:06] <Erthe> I'm kinda thinking something through OpenDesktop.org
[03:07] <drdoom> I know some of the programmer types use git and create a "dotfiles" dir for stuff like config files
[03:07] <Erthe> So Kubuntu, SuSE, whatever your KDE settings are stored globally.
[03:07] <Erthe> *nods*
[03:08] <Erthe> I don't want to pay for a private Github repo though, and I'm not sure I want some personal settings browsable by others.
[03:09] <drdoom> I didn't realize you had to pay
[03:10] <drdoom> I'm sure there's a way to do something like what you want with dropbox and scripts
[03:10] <drdoom> but I don't always trust things like dropbox
[03:10] <drdoom> depends on your level of paranoia
[03:13] <Erthe> Public repos are free on GH
[03:13] <Erthe> Google Drive was an idea I had too.
[03:13] <Erthe> grive is pretty handy
[03:14] <stormchaser3000> hi
[03:14] <stormchaser3000> does anyone know if installing ublock on rekonq is possible?
[03:17] <Erthe> I don't know if Rekonq can make use of the modern FF plugins or not.
[03:17] <Erthe> stormchaser3000: Install it in FF and try loading up Rekonq. I doubt it's possible, but ya never know.
[03:18] <Erthe> https://userbase.kde.org/Rekonq/FAQs#How_do_I_enable_Adblock.3F
[03:22] <Viperisthebest> hello
[03:23] <stormchaser3000> ugh
[03:23] <stormchaser3000> is there a way i can use the rekonq ad block
[03:23] <stormchaser3000> without disableing rekonq from visiting most websites
[03:24] <Erthe> stormchaser3000: You're beyond my realm of knowledge, I use Chrome.
[03:24] <Erthe> Viperisthebest: Hi.
[03:24] <stormchaser3000> because when i enable rekonq's ad block. rekonq doesn't want to connect to most websites
[03:24] <Erthe> Read about how to configured it.
[03:25] <Erthe> *configure
[03:26] <Viperisthebest> I'm trying to install the latest nvidia driver, it says the pre-install script has failed, and nouveau won't let me install it
[03:30] <Viperisthebest> I think I have to add more things to the nouveau blacklist file it created for me
[03:31] <Viperisthebest> Do you know anything about nvidia Erthe?
[03:35] <Viperisthebest> Erthe does kubuntu come with the latest version of java already installed?
[04:01] <drdoom> Erthe: are you familiar with VPSes?
[04:12] <drdoom> Erthe: you might be able to run a free vm at one of the sites that has an educational slant (Azure?) and rsync that way
[04:48] <Erthe> drdoom: I think I may concoct a web service and propose it's use.
[04:49] <Erthe> drdoom: And yes I'm familiar with VPSs.
[05:19] <drdoom> Erthe: sounds good
[06:19] <parsnip> ll
[06:43] <soee> good morning
[06:46] <Erthe> Good morning soee.
[06:47] <Erthe> Having a hell of a time with Kmail today.
[07:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:13] <Guest91709> добрый день
[07:13] <lordievader> !ru | Guest91709
[08:03] <s_20> since baloo is having a field with one of my CPUs, is there a way to see how the indexing (which it is for i assume) has already progressed?
[08:36] <s_20> well after a reboot (for other reasons) baloo seems to be happy again
[11:18] <donniezazen> s_20: indexing is suppose to be superfast which would mean showing progression is either not feasble or useful.
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <Syco54645> hello, running the latest beta of kubuntu and having an issue getting my terminal to load my .profile file by default
[11:44] <rick_> looking good...#Plasma5
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Syco54645, try it in the run command/ktunner
[11:46] <BluesKaj> err krunner
[11:46] <rick_> is it a bug or something?
[11:46] <rick_> Krunner???\
[11:47] <BluesKaj> could be, it's a dev OS
[11:47] <BluesKaj> alt+f2
[11:48] <BluesKaj> or righy click on the desktop, choose run command
[11:48] <BluesKaj> err right
[13:19] <wellington> Olá
[13:19] <wellington> alguém pode me da uma ajudinha ???
[13:19] <wellington> to com uns problemas com o KDE com plasma5
[13:45] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys.
[13:45] <lordievader> o/
[13:46] <LINKSWORD2> Question: I'm looking for a video editor, preferrably one that can handle FLV to AVI. Any suggestions?
[14:03] <rmrfchik> hi, is there way to install kubuntu from behind proxy?
[14:03] <rmrfchik> installer says "no internet"
[14:05] <Walex> rmrfchik: the installer is wrong! The Internet still exists...
[14:05] <hateball> Well you don't *have* to have a internet connection during the install
[14:05] <rmrfchik> this confuses me
[14:05] <rmrfchik> ok
[14:05] <Walex> rmrfchik: the existince of a proxy does not matter. what matters is that it has an address etc. that can be routed/NATed to the internet
[14:06] <hateball> It just makes it easier to grab things like restricted-packages and language packs and such if you are connected during install
[14:06] <BluesKaj> rmrfchik, don't choose updates or 3rd party in th einstaller
[17:23] <P3D03MP1R3> why would you log this chat?
[17:23] <P3D03MP1R3> why not make it anonymous?
[17:24] <sithlord48> pretty sure freenode logs all chatrooms
[17:25] <P3D03MP1R3> are there any kids here? or is it just grown ups?
[17:25] <sithlord48> idk
[17:28] <genii> P3D03MP1R3: It doesn't matter if there are any kids here or not, if they are using Kubuntu and arfe needing or giving support for it. The channel rules of all *buntu channels require them to be family-friendly
[17:29] <P3D03MP1R3> i'm very family friendly
[17:29] <P3D03MP1R3> i love kids and families
[17:29] <P3D03MP1R3> especially kids
[17:38] <faust> P3D03MP1R3: you are not funny
[17:39] <P3D03MP1R3> that's because i'm not a comedian faust
[17:39] <faust> P3D03MP1R3: this is sad
[17:40] <P3D03MP1R3> you're sad? go fuck kids it will make you happy
[19:24] <MichaelP> in kubuntu can't find xorg.conf.d .. arch is etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[19:29] <xennex81> question... what channel can I go to to ask about embedded browsers, or single purpose browser? (web browsers, I want something for a wiki that doesn't coincide with other windows)
[19:29] <F03SD> нинужно вобщем говоря)))
[19:32] <MoonUnit`> MichaelP: ptu my conf in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[19:33] <MoonUnit`> *put
[19:34] <MichaelP> MoonUnit`: already found it
[19:38] <genii> MoonUnit`: Every time I see you here I imagine your last name is Zappa ;)
[19:39] <MoonUnit`> :)
[22:33] <phoenixz> Will Kubunti 15.04 have wayland?
[22:33] <phoenixz> instead of X ?
[22:38] <deadmund> Anybody here?
[22:40] <genii> phoenixz: Xorg 1.16
[22:41] <genii> deadmund: Better if you have a support question just to say it in the channel and see if anyone takes it up
[22:48] <deadmund> genii: I figured it out already. haha, sorry!
[22:54] <Simonious> so I just dropped a DVD with the new ISO into a machine and it boots up, but then on the quit/try/install screen it hangs forever.. Mouse clicks do nothing. Enter does nothing. Only the Enter while 'quit' is selected does something - it just tosses up the confirmation box, but I don't want to quit, I want to do the install. There are no errors. If I go to a command line and type commands the DVD spins up at least.. W
[23:35] <MichaelP> kubuntu 15.04 everytime i start to move mouse up center of screen and to left side. screen starts turning blue. closer to the corner bluer it gets... http://i.imgur.com/IPIBADm.jpg
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2015-04-13-#snappy
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[03:00] <fishcooker> apk ini apkah di surabaya kah?
[03:00] <fishcooker> *sorry typo
[06:19] <jchodyniecki> installed snappy on ESXi, virtualbox, and vagrant and the ubuntu/ubuntu user/pass doesn't work on any of them
[06:19] <jchodyniecki> any help?
[08:22] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday and happy Scrabble Day! :-D
[13:49] <dholbach> mvo, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/click-reviewers-tools/run-pyflakes3/+merge/255821
[14:27] <fionnan> Anyone getting `ERROR: Could not generate AppArmor profile for docker_docker_1.5.0.002.json...` when installing docker on a fresh snappy instance? Traceback is here: http://pastebin.com/ChQmLUmq
[14:54] <mterry> snappy-go no longer allows you to build a snap with an unknown framework?
[15:01] <pendigging> Recently update snappy app docker 1.5.0.002 fails to install on ubuntu core dev 15.04.
[15:01] <pendigging> ubuntu@localhost:/var/log$ sudo snappy install docker docker 8 MB [[15:02] <pendigging> Any workaround?
[15:04] <ogra_> asac, ^^^^
[15:04] <ogra_> two people already
[15:04] <fionnan> yup
[15:08] <jdstrand> pendigging: are you using the latest promoted image or the latest devel-proposed?
[15:08] <jdstrand> pendigging: actually, can you paste: system-image-cli -i
[15:09] <pendigging> ubuntu@localhost:~$ system-image-cli -i current build number: 145 device name: generic_amd64 channel: ubuntu-core/devel last update: 2015-02-24 19:19:17 version version: 145 version ubuntu: 20150223.2 version raw-device: 20150223.2 ubuntu@localhost:~$
[15:09] <jdstrand> let me try
[15:11] <jdstrand> pendigging: ah, that is the old promoted image
[15:11] <jdstrand> fionnan: hey, can you give the output of: system-image-cli -i
[15:13] <jdstrand> pendigging: you need to update your system with snappy update and reboot
[15:14] <pendigging> jdstrand: Tx much! I will give it a whirl!
[15:24] <fionnan> jdstrand: yup, here you go
[15:24] <fionnan> http://pastebin.com/NLt2exvx
[15:25] <pendigging> jdstrand: That worked for me. Again, tx :-)
[15:25] <jdstrand> fionnan: right, the same thing I told pendigging applies to you. you need to update your system with snappy update
[15:25] <jdstrand> pendigging: nice!
[15:25] <jdstrand> asac: re ogra's ping, I handled it
[15:34] <dholbach> links:
[15:34] <dholbach> http://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy
[15:34] <dholbach> https://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/porting/
[15:35] <lool> thnka dholbach
[15:35] <dholbach> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy/snappy/files/head:/docs/
[15:35] <dholbach> anytime
[15:35] <lool> repeating for the couple of recent joiners
[15:36] <lool> http://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy
[15:36] <lool> https://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/porting/
[15:36] <lool> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy/snappy/files/head:/docs/
[15:43] <elopio> http://www.wefearchange.org/2015/04/creating-python-snaps.html
[15:43] <elopio> I'm playing with ^
[15:55] <lool> slide deck with links: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1DCeQ1lSsZQaGAyUeJGOdCbTVstG1DYViw9wc2GUpK7w/edit#slide=id.g606de2313_017
[16:22] <lool> sergiusens: the porting guide says snappy-dev/beta for the PPA with latest device-flash; I'm using snappy-dev/tools though; which one is the right one?
[16:22] <lool> NB: there are trusty users here
[16:23] * ogra_ always uses phablet-team/tools
[16:23] <ogra_> :P
[16:34] <fionnan> jdstrand: Cheers!
[16:36] <sergiusens> lool: I'm on trusty
[16:36] <sergiusens> lool: and using the tools ppa, that said I need to copy it to beta
[16:38] <lool> sergiusens: I told everyone to use the tools PPA now
[17:12] <lool> sergiusens: do you have the power adapter for the ninja SDK? if not, what's the voltage?
[17:12] <vila__> mvo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snappy/+bug/1443557 feel free to re-assign
[17:23] <mvo> vila__: thanks, I put it on our trello board
[18:39] <elopio> jodh: ping. We are at the snappy sprint and they told us you have been running tests.
[18:39] <elopio> jodh: could you join #ubuntu-quality and tell us which kind of tests have you been running, and the kind of errors you have found?
[19:34] <tgm4883> Having difficulty getting the snappy image booting on the beaglebone black. following the instructions on http://www.ubuntu.com/things#try-beaglebone I've got the image on the micro SD card, but when the card is inserted I don't seem to get anything happening on the beaglebone. Just the one power light
[19:35] <tgm4883> puting other things on the card (debian, ubuntu) boots up fine
[19:35] <lool> hwang4: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1DCeQ1lSsZQaGAyUeJGOdCbTVstG1DYViw9wc2GUpK7w/edit
[19:36] <hamo> mvo: ping
[19:36] <mvo> hamo: pong
[19:37] <hamo> mvo: Hi...https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snappy/+bug/1443599
[19:37] <hamo> mvo: I found some issue during usage
[19:37] <hamo> mvo: and I have proposed a patch, could you help to review it?
[19:38] <mvo> hamo: YES, sounds great, let me have a look
[19:38] <hamo> mvo: thanks :-)
[19:44] <hamo> mvo: I saw you approve it... Thanks very much for your reivew
[19:44] <hamo> mvo: what should I do next?
[20:26] <mvo> hamo: hm, let me think about this for a minute or two
[20:29] <lool> Nikolay: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ninja/README
[20:29] <lool> ogra_: ^ was that the latest ninja sdk bits you had?
[20:29] <lool> ogra_: we're running a hands on workshop and I've proposed Nikolay to create an OEM snap for ths board
[20:48] <sergiusens> hamo: if you want to contribute, maybe adding support for snappy info to list the oem snaps if they exist
[20:48] <sergiusens> hamo: or the other one would be to have snappy list follow the spacing spec
[21:22] <tbo_> can I chroot into snappy from ubuntu?
[22:02] <sergiusens> mvo: Chipaca https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snappy/installFactorX/+merge/256042
[22:31] <Chipaca> sergiusens: when you feel like taking a break, https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/touch/+merge/255650
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-za
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[03:47] <Kilos> morning all
[04:43] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[04:44] <Tonberry> more
[04:46] <Kilos> hi barrydk
[04:47] <barrydk> More Kilos en andere
[06:08] <Squirm> Morning
[06:08] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:08] <Squirm> Meh, Taxi's have blocked the entrance to the Business Park I work in
[06:08] <Squirm> and are about to start burning tyres
[06:09] <Kilos> ai!
[06:10] <Kilos> and part of our power probs are because the same thing has been happening at madupe power station for weeks
[06:35] <plustwo> good morning all
[06:37] <Kilos> hi plustwo
[06:42] <Squirm> Off to work now, chat soonish
[06:42] <Kilos> ok
[06:42] <Kilos> go safe
[06:51] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:52] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[06:52] <Kilos> lol me weird
[06:56] * Kilos just made kaaings in the micro, just as lekker and so much faster
[06:56] <Kilos> but you must do it on defrost mode
[07:39] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[07:42] <SDCDev> hey Kilos
[07:57] <Kilos> oh SDCDev have you joined us yet at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members
[07:57] <SDCDev> Im having problems signing in with ubuntu one for some reason ;\
[07:57] <Kilos> its just slow
[07:58] <SDCDev> it worked this time :D
[07:58] <Kilos> oh it was this thats slow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members
[07:58] <Kilos> yay
[07:59] <Kilos> next task too please ^^
[08:09] <SDCDev> doesn't work for me on that one :( times out
[08:09] <Kilos> wow
[08:10] <Kilos> you sure you got it right
[08:10] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members
[08:13] <SDCDev> eventually logged in... do I have to create my own wiki and stuff? O.o
[08:13] <SDCDev> looks like allot of work on a busy day :P mebbe i'll do it tonight :)
[08:13] <Kilos> no
[08:13] <Kilos> anytime is fine
[08:14] <Kilos> you just add yourself on the wiki page
[08:19] <Kilos> you only worry about your wiki page when applying for official ubuntu membership
[08:19] <Kilos> but with your lp joining you are now a member of ubuntu-za
[08:20] <Kilos> :D
[08:20] <SDCDev> :> :D
[08:20] <SDCDev> wait is this a swingers club?
[08:20] <Kilos> what is that?
[08:21] <SDCDev> lol Im just kidding :)
[08:21] <SDCDev> google
[08:21] <Kilos> lol
[08:21] <Kilos> no its most likely naughty
[08:22] <SDCDev> :P
[08:22] <Kilos> im too old to be naughty
[08:24] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[08:24] <pieter2627> morning Kilos, how are things?
[08:25] <Kilos> going strong ty and there
[08:25] <pieter2627> gearing up ty
[08:25] <Kilos> we have a mailing list for africa too now, you can join
[08:26] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[08:26] <pieter2627> oh ok, will check it
[08:30] <Kilos> anyone that has the energy and time can join and help me when i am stuck when new users need help
[08:30] <Kilos> i think the site will draw many new peeps to ubuntu
[08:31] <Kilos> i hope so anyway
[08:31] <Kilos> inetpro no comments? sjoe
[08:31] <Kilos> must be sleeping in the corner at the DC
[08:31] <Kilos> hehe
[08:41] <Kilos> hi Kerbero
[08:41] <Kilos> wb
[08:41] <Kilos> you been missing lots
[08:41] <Kerbero> dankie oom kilos
[08:41] <Kerbero> different office
[08:42] <Kilos> aha
[08:42] <Kerbero> only sometimes visit the old one and restart my irc
[08:42] <Kilos> eish
[08:42] <Kilos> make a plan man
[08:43] <Kilos> what good is an office without irc
[08:43] <Kerbero> lol
[08:43] <Kerbero> an irc-less office is a productive office
[08:43] <Kilos> rofl
[08:44] <Kilos> thats because you guys open too many channels
[08:58] <Kilos> hi Padroni
[08:58] <Padroni> hi Kilos
[08:58] <Padroni> how are you?
[08:59] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[08:59] <Padroni> I'm good thanx
[08:59] <Kilos> do you share your skills on mailing lists
[08:59] <Kilos> helping new peeps that is
[09:15] <Squirm> 'lo
[09:16] <Kilos> yay you made it Squirm
[09:17] <Squirm> Yeah, got in at 10. Ended up getting food from Food Lover's down the road for breakfast. Did a U-Turn on the M3 when I saw the backlog :D
[09:17] <Kilos> lol
[09:17] <superfly> Squirm: what's up with the M3?
[09:17] <superfly> oh, gotcha
[09:17] * superfly scrolled up
[09:29] <Kilos> hows superfly and family?
[09:39] <superfly> Kilos: OK, thanks. Family is (slowly) getting better
[09:39] <Kilos> ai!
[09:42] <Kilos> not lekker when little ones are sick
[10:12] <SilverCode> does anyone know what the standard per hour rate for outsourced development is in SA?
[10:27] <superfly> SilverCode: not really, but for an independent contracter I'd expect +/- 350/hour
[10:34] <Padroni> #back
[10:35] <Padroni> sorry Kilos - who were you referring to: <Kilos> do you share your skills on mailing lists
[10:35] <Padroni> ?
[10:35] <Kilos> you Padroni
[10:35] <Padroni> you want to know whether I share knowledge via the mailing list?
[10:36] <Padroni> think I have interacted once with the mailing list
[10:36] <Kilos> help mainly Padroni
[10:36] <Padroni> If there's something I feel I can contribute, I will
[10:36] <Kilos> im hoping to attract news peeps
[10:36] <Padroni> oh
[10:36] <Padroni> I am working on getting more peeps into ubuntu
[10:36] <Padroni> I personally feel ubuntu is the future of computing
[10:37] <Kilos> goog man
[10:37] <Kilos> ip
[10:37] <Kilos> yip too
[10:37] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[10:37] <Kilos> you can join all 5 of us there
[10:40] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[10:40] <Padroni> #joined
[10:40] <Kilos> im waiting for the mail
[10:41] <Kilos> approved
[10:44] <Kilos> new blog on the block guys, you may add help articles as well
[10:44] <Kilos> Maaz padroni.blog
[10:44] <Maaz> http://compunation.co.za/
[10:46] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[10:46] <Kilos> didnt see you come in
[10:47] <Kilos> im hoping the africa project goes viral when the site goes online Padroni
[10:47] <Padroni> which site>
[10:48] <Padroni> ?
[10:48] <Padroni> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[10:48] <Kilos> ubuntu-africa.info
[10:48] <Padroni> ah ok
[10:49] <Kilos> its very beautiful
[10:49] <Kilos> well will be
[10:51] <Kilos> that nick shouls be changed to pietertjie
[10:52] <Kilos> Padroni the guys have been slaving on the site and when we run it on local host its very cool
[10:54] <Kilos> wb inetpro
[10:54] <Padroni> would like to see it
[10:57] <Kilos> wb plustwo
[10:57] <Kilos> Padroni youve seen ubuntu-za.org
[10:58] <Padroni> yes?
[10:58] <Padroni> looks the same?
[10:58] <Kilos> well the africa one is cooler
[11:02] <Kilos> youll have to be patient
[11:02] <Kilos> hehe
[11:05] <Kilos> Maaz seen jacques_stry
[11:05] <Maaz> Kilos: jacques_stry was last seen 17 days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 41 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-03-26 15:48:23 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-03-26 20:18:12 SAST
[11:05] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:13] <Kilos> Padroni do you know how to do the bzr and nikola stuff to run locally?
[11:13] <Kilos> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-africa
[11:14] <Padroni> I have never used either
[11:14] <Padroni> can't be hard to figure out though
[11:14] <Kilos> there is a tutorial for bzr on our site
[11:15] <Kilos> jacsays he will be here tonight
[11:15] <Kilos> jacques
[11:16] <Padroni> ok
[11:16] <Kilos> these peeps that take vacation and leave irc at home
[11:25] <Kilos> the fly at least gives a running commentary
[11:31] <Padroni> hehe
[11:44] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[11:44] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[12:17] <Private_User> Kilos: hey, the ##ubuntu-za-social channel is getting :( even the creator no longer joins that channel
[12:18] <Kilos> lol i have too many open to be able to carry on without making mess ups Private_User
[12:18] <Private_User> lol
[12:20] <Kilos> even the pro was chatting in afrikaans to the yanks last night so i dont feel too bad
[12:20] <Symmetria> PXE Boot + Ubuntu network install image = FTW
[12:20] <Symmetria> especially if you on a seriously fast connection
[13:02] <Padroni> so
[13:07] <Squirm> More taxi strokes
[13:07] <Squirm> Home time
[13:20] <Kilos> lol
[13:48] <Kilos> hi MaNI welcome to ubuntu-za
[13:49] <MaNI> hi
[13:52] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[13:59] <plustwo> Kilos: who else is on the bug squad?
[13:59] <Kilos> pieter2627 and um
[13:59] <Kilos> er
[14:00] <Kilos> i forget his nick now
[14:00] <plustwo> ok
[14:01] <Kilos> well try find some more
[14:02] <Kilos> its a game for clever peeps
[14:02] <Kilos> i think if the pro had more time he would join too
[14:03] <Kilos> octoquad\
[14:03] <pieter2627> octoquad is the other peep
[14:03] <Kilos> i had to go search
[14:03] <Kilos> lol
[14:03] <pieter2627> ah Kilos beated me
[14:04] <Kilos> haha for once i win
[14:04] <Kilos> MaNI tell us about yourself
[14:05] <pieter2627> s/beated/beat/
[14:05] <Kilos> dit ook ja
[14:06] <MaNI> heh, okay - I'm a software developer in cape town, and long term linux enthusiast, I use mostly gentoo but I have various other distros on VMs etc. and at least one ubuntu machine somewhere :p
[14:06] <Kilos> cool
[14:06] <Kilos> you welcome to hang here by us, we have quite a few guys in CT
[14:08] <MaNI> okay cool
[14:26] <Padroni> anyone here on the ubuntu-za group on FB?
[14:26] <Kilos> i think so
[14:26] <Kilos> maybe me too but fb sucks
[14:26] <Kilos> why?
[14:27] <Padroni> just wondering
[14:27] <Padroni> there's a group there
[14:27] <Padroni> maybe we can get them to become active here?
[14:28] <Kilos> can you see who they are
[14:28] <Kilos> arent most here already?
[14:31] <Kilos> we actually have a lot of members that dont do irc
[14:32] <Kilos> wb plustwo
[14:36] <Kilos> i looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software) today
[14:37] <Kilos> but thats only with unity hey?
[14:39] <Padroni> xchat comes default with 'buntu
[14:39] <Padroni> and it works fine
[14:39] <Kilos> no man for the graphics thing in place of X
[14:40] <Padroni> oh
[14:57] <Kilos> i must be with the ubuntu group on FB, just got a mail notification
[15:47] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[15:48] <Kilos> hi georgelappies
[15:52] <Kilos> georgelappies have you joined here yet ? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members
[15:55] <georgelappies> have now :)
[15:55] <Kilos> and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members
[15:56] <Kilos> :D
[15:57] <Kilos> shout if you need help
[16:13] <Kilos> georgelappies ?
[16:15] <georgelappies> Hi Kilos, where do you register for the second one?
[16:15] <Kilos> you just edit it and add yourself at the bottom georgelappies
[16:16] <Kilos> you have to login i think
[16:16] <georgelappies> ok, will check it out
[16:17] <Kilos> ty
[16:17] <Kilos> its easiest to copy paste the last one the just edit it
[16:19] <Kilos> s/the/then
[16:24] <Kilos> wb Tonberry
[16:25] <Kilos> ty georgelappies and welcome to ubuntu-za officially that is
[16:25] <georgelappies> thanks Kilos
[16:26] <Kilos> oop syou broke something
[16:28] <Kilos> inetpro fixit
[16:28] <Kilos> plustwo you want some work??
[16:31] <Kilos> hi there DalekSec sorry ive been half asleep all day
[16:33] <Tonberry> oh hi
[17:04] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:16] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:17] <georgelappies> have a nice meal Kilos
[17:19] <Kilos> yeah ty tummy full now
[17:20] <Kilos> you can go see my wiki page then youll see why i just park off here
[17:20] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos#preview
[17:21] <Kilos> maybe without the #preview
[17:22] * Symmetria snores
[17:22] <Kilos> haha bored again?
[17:22] <georgelappies> yeah that formatting is wierd
[17:22] <Symmetria> Im on my way home, and in the time its taken me I coulda driven from East London to Grahamstown
[17:22] <Symmetria> infact I'd probably be almost in port elizabeth ;p
[17:22] <Kilos> wow
[17:23] <Symmetria> heh, 2 hours and 45 minutes so far
[17:23] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:23] <Symmetria> lol in no traffic it takes 15 minutes
[17:24] <Kilos> wow
[17:24] <Symmetria> almost home now :p
[17:25] <georgelappies> where you driving Symmetria
[17:27] <Symmetria> lol from from the office in Nairobi
[17:27] <Symmetria> ok, arriving at home, time to go eat and watch the football game, FINALLY
[17:29] <Kilos> MaNI are you still here?
[17:29] <MaNI> yeah
[17:29] <Kilos> do you want to become an ubuntu-za mamber?
[17:29] <Kilos> member too
[17:29] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members
[17:30] <Kilos> you can be our gentoo support man
[17:31] <MaNI> haha, think I'm commited to enough teams already for now thanks, but I'll hang around in IRC and let you know if I change my mind :)
[17:31] <Kilos> cool
[17:37] <hibana> Guten Abend
[17:38] <Kilos> hi hibana can you do a quick job for us?
[17:38] <Kilos> or send inetpro
[17:38] * hibana kicks inetpro
[17:39] <Kilos> lol
[17:39] <inetpro> eish! Who was that?
[17:39] <inetpro> oh
[17:39] <inetpro> hi everyone
[17:39] <Kilos> the wiki members page got corruted again
[17:39] <Kilos> hello inetpro hassles at work?
[17:39] <inetpro> nope
[17:40] <Kilos> you went offline twice today
[17:40] <Kilos> naughty
[17:40] <Kilos> only loadshedding or upgrading is an acceptable excuse
[17:41] <Kilos> oh inetpro tell me too please
[17:42] <Kilos> how can i see the wiki in one line
[17:42] <Kilos> in edit mode of course
[17:42] <Kilos> im sure ill get it right if it doesnt do the wrap thing
[17:45] <Kilos> evening hibana how was your day
[17:45] <Kilos> ?
[17:47] <Kilos> hi superfly
[17:51] <inetpro> Kilos: fixed
[17:51] <Kilos> ty so much
[17:51] <Kilos> what was the prob?
[17:52] <Kilos> the page is growing hey
[17:52] <inetpro> Kilos: remember Edit, Select All, Copy, Paste in kate, Edit, Select all, Copy, Paste to Wiki, Preview, Save
[17:53] <inetpro> last ||
[17:53] <Kilos> ai!
[17:53] <inetpro> I added a blank line now
[17:53] <Kilos> cool ty
[17:53] <inetpro> and I sorted again
[17:54] <Kilos> the bird just told me you fixed it
[17:54] <Kilos> i see that too, i had to hunt for peeps
[17:55] <inetpro> too many now
[17:55] <Kilos> lol must i chase some
[17:55] <Kilos> ?
[17:56] <hibana> Kilos: NOOOO!!!
[17:56] <Kilos> lol
[17:57] <Kilos> hibana is my friend, from my first day here
[17:57] <Kilos> so good to have him back
[18:00] <inetpro> Kilos: probably someone tripped over a cable
[18:00] <Kilos> aha
[18:01] <Kilos> i had such a good laugh last night
[18:01] * inetpro has no idea what happened
[18:01] <Kilos> nice to see im not the only one that chats in wrong channels
[18:01] <inetpro> whatever it was nobody was brave enough to talk about it
[18:09] <Kilos> i often get mixed up between here and pidgin
[18:09] <Kilos> especially rugby days
[18:09] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[18:09] <pieter2627> hi all
[18:16] <Kilos> hey guys if you need help without all the ai!' and RTFS ask hibana. he is a proper gentleman and understands better than others how to help when someone is struggling
[18:17] <Kilos> oh inetpro sorry i missed the reply list button last night
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: no problemo
[18:28] <Kilos> hibana will you help me work out a marketing strategy for the africa site?
[18:29] <Kilos> you are close enought to kick the pro when he slacks off
[18:29] <Kilos> our site must hit the world like a tsunami
[18:32] <inetpro> ai!
[18:33] <Kilos> not ai! man, aye is the right word
[18:39] <Kilos> hehe and so the wave starts https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+members
[18:41] <inetpro> wave?
[18:42] <Kilos> tsunami
[18:42] <Kilos> large wall of water
[18:43] <Kilos> normally started by an earthquake somewhere
[18:43] <pieter2627> ...undersea
[18:43] <Kilos> there too ya but this time we are the earthquake
[18:44] <Kilos> pieter2627 have you joined?
[18:44] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+members
[18:44] <pieter2627> 5 secs ago :P
[18:44] <Kilos> well done
[18:45] <Kilos> woooo
[18:45] <inetpro> ai!
[18:45] <Kilos> what now inetpro
[18:49] * inetpro falling asleep
[18:49] <Kilos> whew so early
[18:49] <Kilos> go sleep old man
[18:50] * pieter2627 is catching inetpro's symptom
[18:50] <Kilos> lol
[18:50] * Kilos yawns
[19:06] <Kilos> sjoe inetpro
[19:06] <Kilos> kyk locoteam
[19:18] * Squirm looks around
[19:18] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[19:28] <pieter2627> will see again tomorrow
[19:28] <pieter2627> \quit Tired
[19:28] <Kilos> sleep tight pieter2627
[19:29] <pieter2627> \me to tired to type correct command
[19:29] <pieter2627> \quit Tired
[19:29] <pieter2627> LOL
[19:31] <Kilos> Maaz tell pieter2627 use a forward slash /me
[19:31] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell pieter2627 on freenode
[20:07] <Squirm> Gnight all
[20:07] <Kilos> night Squirm
[20:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
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2015-04-13-#kubuntu-devel
|
[00:18] <ahoneybun> Kernel 4.0 released today!
[03:17] <frecel> ahoneybun: isn't it an arbitrary number at this point?
[04:17] <DalekSec> Pretty much.
[06:43] <soee> good morning
[07:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:20] <sitter> Riddell: ping
[08:21] <soee> what was the command to check gpu ?
[08:22] <lordievader> soee: How check? Like what you have?
[08:22] <soee> lordievader: yes
[08:23] <lordievader> soee: lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA
[08:23] <lordievader> Or read the list lshw outputs.
[08:24] <soee> lordievader: nice, thank you
[08:27] <soee> guys propriety drivers for nvidai cards work fine for you in Vivid ?
[08:34] <sitter> does anyone want to do very simple packaging changes to make CI happy? ^^
[08:35] <sitter> Riddell: where do I pack the rfkill udev rule? data package? seems a bit meh-sy
[08:42] <sitter> Riddell: why is http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_dbus-config-rename.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable not upstreamed?
[08:49] <Riddell> sitter: I managed to convince him to put it in upstream
[08:49] <Riddell> sitter: so hopefully it's already in there
[08:51] <sitter> Riddell: the rfkill is there, I am asking where we should put it packagingwise
[09:10] * ovidiu-florin is turning 24 today
[09:11] <Riddell> a young spring chicken :)
[09:11] <ovidiu-florin> Thank you Riddell
[09:13] * Riddell slides an irn-bru down the table to ovidiu-florin
[09:13] * ovidiu-florin googles irn-bru
[09:13] <ovidiu-florin> thank you :D
[09:15] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Congratulations!
[09:17] <ovidiu-florin> I'll be drinking http://www.dragosasaftei.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/fotografie-de-produs-cu-amintire-silva-dark-7.jpg and http://www.letspartystore.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/bere_nenea_iancu_lps.jpg and http://blufftonbeerfest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/hobgoblin.jpg this evening
[09:17] <soee> ovidiu-florin: all the best and next 24 years with kubutnu :D
[09:18] <ovidiu-florin> and also: http://www.carrefour-online.ro/-/media/Images/Products/1/2/0/N1_5942016300611.png?w=460&h=460&q=90&bc=white
[09:19] <ovidiu-florin> Thank you lordievader and soee
[09:20] <Riddell> Hob Goblin++
[09:21] <Riddell> just be careful of that Țuică ovidiu-florin!
[09:21] <ovidiu-florin> oh
[09:21] <ovidiu-florin> that will just get things started
[09:22] <ovidiu-florin> beer is just for warmup
[09:23] <Riddell> oh do be careful, we need our website master alive!
[09:28] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: don't worry
[09:29] <ovidiu-florin> this is something usual in Romania
[09:36] <sitter> kubotu: order birthday package for ovidiu-florin
[09:36] * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[09:36] * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to ovidiu-florin and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[09:36] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday ovidiu-florin, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[09:36] <kubotu> Happy Birthday ovidiu-florin :D
[09:36] <kubotu> To your health!
[09:37] * ovidiu-florin opens the present...
[09:38] <ovidiu-florin> Ohhh
[09:38] <ovidiu-florin> I love it '
[09:38] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[09:44] <Riddell> sitter: no alcohol before midday!
[09:44] <Riddell> even on ovidiu-florin's birthday
[09:49] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: happy birthday!
[09:53] <sitter> Riddell: blame kubotu. he's bad influence
[10:24] <sitter> Riddell: you sillt haven't answered where to put the udev rule packagingwise :P
[10:25] <Riddell> sitter: doesn't cmake put it somewhere sane?
[10:31] <sitter> Riddell: which package
[10:35] <Riddell> sitter: libkf5bluezqt5 ?
[10:36] <sitter> Riddell: but then the lib becomes non-multiarch and contains un-soversioned data files
[10:37] <sitter> former I don't care so much about, but latter sucks quite a bit
[10:42] <Riddell> sitter: so add a libkf5bluezqt-data ?
[10:42] <sitter> that was my question :P
[10:51] <sitter> mhhh
[10:51] <sitter> then again
[10:51] <sitter> god I hate packaging
[10:55] <Riddell> sitter: shall we just switch to arch linux and stop bothering with packaging?
[10:55] <Riddell> or an installer for that matter
[10:56] <sitter> upstream seems to be fine with arch
[10:57] <Riddell> upstream is a bunch of nutters who don't know the first thing about usable software
[10:57] <Riddell> oh wait, did I say that out loud :)
[10:58] <shadeslayer> heh
[10:59] <shadeslayer> Guys it's not even Friday yet :p
[11:07] <Riddell> it was friday only the other day
[11:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what country are you in today?
[11:08] <shadeslayer> Still in London :)
[11:08] <shadeslayer> Its been sunny all weel
[11:08] <shadeslayer> *week
[11:10] <Riddell> rare
[11:12] <shadeslayer> :)
[11:13] <shadeslayer> I went golfing on the weekend and now everything is sore
[11:13] <shadeslayer> Golf and badminton xD
[11:13] <Riddell> is golf a tiring sport? it's just walking around a field no?
[11:14] <shadeslayer> I drove a 100 balls on the driving range
[11:14] <Riddell> soee: you may be interested in bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443364
[11:15] <Riddell> shadeslayer: simple leaver mechanics, hardly hard work for you I'm sure
[11:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: still doesn't mean you dont get sore
[11:18] <soee> Riddell: this is the one Alverto posted in comment to my bug report ?
[11:18] <soee> *Alberto
[11:20] <Riddell> soee: dunno could be
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <BluesKaj> some panel widgets still don't work , like icons-only task manager, and it's been so for a while now
[11:44] <BluesKaj> ok , now I see how it's setup, riight click in the panel and choose alternatives and a gui pops up with a choice that actually works
[11:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://i.imgur.com/19Yf1Vb.jpg
[11:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: found at a bus stop last night
[11:54] <Riddell> ah, if only it were true :)
[11:59] <shadeslayer> ;)
[12:00] <shadeslayer> d_ed: ^^
[12:01] <ScottK> Riddell: libxext released.
[12:06] <soee> how to make vivid work really smooth on my pc ? kill baloo_file process
[12:11] <BluesKaj> soee, and akonadi
[12:51] <micmord> Riddell: bug 1443430
[14:41] <sitter> hm
[14:41] <shadeslayer> mh
[14:41] <sitter> Riddell, shadeslayer: is there a reason the patch-parser is running on ~jr rather than the shared account on qa.kubuntu?
[14:42] <shadeslayer> idk
[14:42] <shadeslayer> Possibly jr set it up
[14:43] <sitter> shadeslayer: btw, I am dropping author/date fallback to git for now. seeing as the thing should support both git and bzr that needs abstractoring
[14:43] <shadeslayer> okie dokie
[15:33] <sitter> we really need to do something about the amount of silly git clones we have all over the place
[15:40] * shadeslayer gives sitter a flamethrower
[15:40] <shadeslayer> sitter: btw how do you want to solve the issue of having the | seperator in build deps
[15:55] <sitter> shadeslayer: hm?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> sitter: Build-Depends: foo | bar
[15:55] <shadeslayer> we only parse foo at the moment
[16:17] <sitter> shadeslayer: as I said last time you asked the exact same question... Relationship class needs to be fixed to account for this
[16:17] <shadeslayer> yeah but how /o\
[16:17] <shadeslayer> like
[16:18] <shadeslayer> you need some sort of priority ordering
[16:19] <sitter> shadeslayer: Array is an ordered data structures
[16:19] <sitter> -s
[16:21] <shadeslayer> I don't have a clue what you're suggesting here, since if you have 2 of those then there are like 4 combinations of the build deps
[16:21] <shadeslayer> any one of which could be valid
[16:25] <sitter> shadeslayer: are you asking me how to implement a dependency resolver or what's the question here?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> yes, implementing a dep resolver
[16:26] <shadeslayer> wouldn't that have to go into the control parser
[16:27] <shadeslayer> hm, maybe not, thinking about it is giving me a headache
[16:27] <shadeslayer> ok, wtf dpkg-buildpackage
[16:28] <shadeslayer> build source with sbuild, works, build source with custom tooling, broken
[16:28] <sitter> shadeslayer: how many *parsers* do you know that implement a dependency resolver? Oo
[16:29] <shadeslayer> sitter: ok, so resolver goes ontop of control parser
[16:29] <shadeslayer> hm
[16:29] <shadeslayer> fun
[16:29] <sitter> anyway ... either use whatever script sbuild/pbuilder use
[16:30] <sitter> or implement a simplified version of the pbuilder one... which IIRC basically installs a fake package via dpkg with the build-depends of your source used as the depends of the fake and then runs apt-get -f install to have apt resolve the now broken dependency tree
[16:30] <sitter> there's possibly less cumbersome approaches though
[16:30] <sitter> i.e I would really just use the existing script from pbuilder TBH
[16:31] <sitter> oh gosh
[16:31] <sitter> such late
[16:32] <shadeslayer> it's only 6:30
[16:32] <sitter> Riddell: if you get a chance maybe send me a mail with what ruby version the patch-parser in your home is run against
[16:32] <sitter> I fear I wrote somewhat too newish code
[16:32] <shadeslayer> http://squirrel-lang.org/
[16:32] <shadeslayer> quite nutty that one
[16:38] <Sick_Rimmit> shadeslayer: What has a Hazel nut in every Class ;-)
[16:43] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:50] <darthanubis> does anyone else notice plasmashell start to use 20-35% memory?
[17:04] <yofel> % doesn't tell much, here it usually sits around at ~380MiB
[17:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ping, can you send that gnome patch upstream to Debian too
[17:52] <shadeslayer> yofel: do you know how to figure out what env var comes from where
[17:52] <yofel> no
[17:52] <shadeslayer> I have a random one in my PATH
[17:52] <shadeslayer> no clue where it comes from
[18:30] <ahoneybun> happy birthday ovidiu-florin!
[18:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: which gnome patch?
[18:42] <Riddell> soee: "15:16 < pitti> tseliot: the u-d-c fix was just accepted by the RT team FYI
[18:42] <Riddell> that may fix your issue?
[18:43] <soee> Riddell: will test, but wirst i need to take shower
[18:48] <soee> Riddell: it is fix in ubuntu-drivers-common ?
[18:56] <Riddell> sgclark: so what do you think about uploading kf5.9?
[19:06] <sgclark> Riddell: to archive?
[19:06] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah, it seemed to build smooth enough, have you heard of any problems?
[19:07] <sgclark> Riddell: I have not heard any no. I personally have not yet tested it.
[19:07] <sgclark> let me do that first.. here in a min
[19:07] <Riddell> thanks, I'm testing too
[19:08] <Riddell> I think if it's all good I'll run the script and upload
[19:10] <Riddell> I'll also add https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123355/ to fix the kf5people translations
[19:10] <sgclark> Riddell: ok thank you
[19:24] <soee> :/
[19:25] <soee> Update installed with propriety driver and system broken
[19:46] <soee> reinstaling system :/
[20:24] <Riddell> 21:17 < wxl> Riddell: there is some reason to believe that bug 1441843 affects kubuntu, too? sgclark and Kamilion had kind of suggested as such.
[20:24] <Riddell> anyone tested lately?
[20:24] <sgclark> not lately, I just remember it
[20:33] <mparillo> I installed to a VMware Player VM, and had no problem with Beta 2. Want me to re-test with a daily?
[20:50] <valorie> wth, apport just crashed again while I was trying to report a bug on update-manager-kde
[20:50] <valorie> core dump!
[20:56] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1443659
[21:10] <soee> this nvidia-prime stuff is a big fail so far :/
[21:12] <Riddell> mparillo: that would be useful
[21:14] <sgclark> though I recall ours to be a virtualbox issue
[21:17] <valorie> omg, why is launchpad so opaque
[21:17] <valorie> I just want to file a freaking bug
[21:19] <sgclark> lol
[21:19] <sgclark> yeah it is not user friendly in filing bugs
[21:19] <valorie> I'll ask a question instead, since apport crashes
[21:19] <valorie> damn
[21:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nvm
[21:22] <yofel> valorie: from what I see, the kde UI crashes, so use "DISPLAY= apport-cli /var/crash/<apport_crashfile>"
[21:24] <valorie> yofel: use that where?
[21:24] <yofel> konsole
[21:24] <yofel> though I can't know the exact filename you need
[21:24] <valorie> in another attempt to file the bug, you mean?
[21:25] <yofel> well, that'll omit the KDE UI, so you should be able to use apport fine
[21:25] <valorie> ah
[21:25] * Riddell uploading kde frameworks 5.9
[21:25] <valorie> I "asked" https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/265138
[21:26] <valorie> yofel:
[21:26] <valorie> $ DISPLAY= apport-cli /var/crash/<apport_crashfile>
[21:26] <valorie> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[21:26] <yofel> well, that was an example as I didn't know what you wanted to do. You probably want "DISPLAY= apport-cli update-manager-kde"
[21:27] <valorie> ok, trying that
[21:27] <valorie> oooo, seems to be working
[21:28] <valorie> so is there a bug I should file on bko, and if so, on what?
[21:29] <valorie> weeeee, that seems to be working
[21:29] <valorie> thank you yofel
[21:30] <yofel> sure
[21:30] <yofel> gave me a rare chance to wear my ubuntu bugsquad hat for a change ^^
[21:33] <valorie> :-)
[21:34] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1443666
[21:35] <valorie> so back to the real issue: what is the KDE bug keeping me from using apport to file that bug properly?
[21:37] <yofel> looks like a bug in apport-kde to me
[21:39] <valorie> well, I've filed two bugs on apport
[21:39] <valorie> and I'm not the only one apport is crashing on
[21:39] <valorie> so is apport-kde our application, or KDE's?
[21:39] <yofel> our
[21:40] <valorie> as a bugsquadder, you can move that to our plate, right?
[21:40] <valorie> or do I need to file another bug?
[21:40] <valorie> I'm not convinced it isn't apport itself
[21:41] <yofel> put on our RC list
[21:42] <valorie> however, coffee ingested, house to clean, away from keyboard now
[21:44] <yofel> well, the issue is a TypeError in our UI refresh code. Not that I fully get what that code does...
[21:45] <mparillo> Riddell: I am downloading the daily iso now to test 1441843.
[21:47] <mparillo> Nobody here running zsync for Windows are they?
[22:00] * genii 's ears perk up at the mention of his favourite caffeinated beverage
[22:02] <Riddell> irn bru?
[22:02] <yofel> coffee ;P
[22:03] <genii> mmmm coffee
[22:03] <Riddell> now available in space http://www.networkworld.com/article/2908031/security0/the-international-space-station-finally-gets-an-espresso-machine.html
[22:04] <genii> Heh, yes, I saw that earlier today on the aborted SpaceX flight feed
[22:06] <mparillo> Logging off to test bug 1441843 with today's ISO
[22:08] <shadeslayer> DLNA, Y U NO WORK
[22:52] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: you can change the topic now :P
[22:52] * ovidiu-florin wonders if it's still his birthday in some countries
[22:55] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: you can change the topic too
[22:55] <shadeslayer> it's not locked
[23:52] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1441843 does not seem to apply to Kubuntu (at least on VMware Player 6.0.5 build-2443746) I just used today's ISO.
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-br
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[00:11] <tscorrea> Boa noite amigo!
[00:15] <astroo-> ola
[00:16] <tscorrea> Estou tentando instalar o ubuntu, através do virtual box...Tenho windows 8, sistema 64x. Logo após selecionar o Iso ( ubuntu) ele mostra um erro: fast TSC calibibration failied
[00:16] <tscorrea> Olá Astro, e a partir desse erro, não acontece mais nada
[00:17] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[00:17] <tscorrea> legal obrigado, é a primeira vez que entro aqui!
[00:18] <astroo-> bem-vindo
[00:34] <astroo-> tscorrea quando ninguem reponde tenta de 30 a 30 minutos voltar a por a pergunta
[00:35] <tscorrea> vou fazer isso, obrigado
[00:36] <PSKOL> tscorrea, vc selecionou o tipo de sistema... no caso o Ubuntu x64?
[00:36] <tscorrea> Estou tentando instalar o ubuntu, através do virtual box...Tenho windows 8, sistema 64x. Logo após selecionar o Iso ( ubuntu) ele mostra um erro: fast TSC calibibration failed
[00:36] <PSKOL> botou o iso no cdrom da maquina virtual?
[00:43] <tscorrea> PSKOl, sim selecionei ele certinho, desculpe a ignorancia como faço para colocar o iso no cd rom da maquina virtual, é aquela configuração em armazenamento? no qual seleciono o iso?
[00:43] <PSKOL> tscorrea, abre a configuraçao da dessa VM ubuntu ai, ai tem la a parte aonde tem o HD, ai em baixo tem o cdrom
[00:44] <PSKOL> ai vc clica na setinha, bota a iso ai depois vc da start na VM
[00:46] <tscorrea> PKSOL vou fazer isso
[00:48] <tscorrea> isso ali está IDE secundario master e no caso, o local da iso é meu pen-drive pode ser?
[00:49] <PSKOL> pode
[00:49] <tscorrea> ai tem a descrição..tipo: imagem, tamanho: 996 mb
[00:49] <PSKOL> so iniciar a vm agora
[00:50] <PSKOL> a ISO esta dentro do pendrive?
[00:50] <PSKOL> ou vc fez um pendrive bootavel?
[00:51] <tscorrea> a iso está dentro do pen-drive, não fiz o boot
[00:52] <tscorrea> é muito estranho..ele aparece essa linha de erro...e fica na tela roxa como se fosse carregar a tela de instalação
[00:52] <tscorrea> achei que era alguma coisa relacionado com pouco espaço para o windows, mas não deu certo tb
[01:05] <tscorrea> PSKOL consegui instalar pelo VMware player, valeu a atenção ..obrigado
[01:05] <PSKOL> tscorrea, blz
[02:45] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[11:48] <Rudolf> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-4.0-rc1-Kernel-Released
[12:47] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[13:48] <Maxluan> Gostaria de saber se eu instalar o ubuntu 15.04 beta ele vai atualizar pra versão final quando ela for lançada?
[13:57] <CyberWorld> BOM DIA GALERA
[14:07] <Maxluan> Gostaria de saber se eu instalar o ubuntu 15.04 beta ele vai atualizar pra versão final quando ela for lançada?
[14:11] <CyberWorld> e ja tem disponivel ?
[14:27] <homini> Olá bom dia
[14:28] <homini> estou com uma dúvida a respeito da instalação de servidor de email na digital ocean
[14:28] <homini> alguém poderia me ajudar?
[14:30] <homini> eu instalei esse https://github.com/marklee77/ansible-role-mailserver
[14:35] <ule> homini: qual objetivo do seu mail server?
[14:35] <homini> quero aprender
[14:35] <homini> teste
[14:36] <ule> humm entao blz
[14:36] <ule> senao eu recomendaria nao esquentar a cabeca com isso
[14:36] <ule> pegar um servico pago de email
[14:40] <toter> homini: A digital ocean possui excelentes tutoriais para configurar os mais diversos serviços... em inglês
[14:41] <toter> os tutoriais que eles disponibilizam são fantásticos... tenho um droplet configurado e esses tutoriais facilitaram bastante
[14:42] <homini> vou tentar pelos tutos, valeu pela dica
[14:42] <toter> infelizmente preciso dar uma dica que geralmente quase nunca é seguida por nós tupiniquins: aprenda inglês
[14:42] <toter> :)
[14:43] <toter> o básico do básico é aqui: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-postfix-e-mail-server-with-dovecot
[14:46] <ule> toter: nice
[14:46] <ule> toter: :)
[14:47] <toter> aprendi bastante seguindo os tutoriais oficiais da digital ocean
[14:47] <ule> toter: eles pagavam por tutoriais.. por isso eles tem tutoriais de boa qualidade
[14:47] <toter> é verdade
[14:47] <toter> ainda pagam, se não me engano
[14:47] <ule> fecharam as portas
[14:47] <ule> ultima vez q fui la ver
[14:47] <toter> :/
[14:48] <toter> não sabia
[14:48] <ule> tinha gente vivendo disso
[14:48] <ule> :P
[14:48] <toter> vou dar uma olhada
[14:49] <toter> creio que ainda estão pagando...
[14:49] <toter> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/get-paid-to-write
[14:49] <telec> bom dia pessoal, alguem ai sabe como impedir de um modulo do kernel iniciar ?
[14:50] <ule> telec: chmod +0 modulo.so ?
[14:50] <ule> :P
[14:50] <telec> oi ?
[14:51] <telec> oO
[14:51] <telec> eu usei blacklist ...
[14:51] <telec> mas nao funcionou
[14:51] <telec> :\
[14:51] <telec> continua iniciando
[14:52] <toter> qual módulo vc. está tentando desativar?
[14:52] <telec> dvb_usb_rtl28xxu
[14:52] <telec> ele só sobe qdo plugo o dongle na usb
[14:54] <toter> vc. acha que ele está desacelerando a sua máquina? Pq. vc. quer desativá-lo?
[14:54] <toter> Vc. usa esse dongle frequentemente?
[14:55] <telec> toter, eu quero desativar, pq uso um prog q usa ele via libusb, e nao funciona se o driver original tiver up
[14:55] <telec> se eu dou um rmmod no modulo o prog funciona
[14:55] <toter> é para assistir tv? ou vc. está usando ele para escutar rádio-frequência?
[14:56] <toter> nossa... que interrrogatório, hehehe...
[14:56] <telec> toter, to usando ele pra SDR, rádio
[14:56] <toter> telec: vou te falar a real...
[14:56] <toter> eu tenho um dongle desse
[14:56] <toter> na verdade, eu não perdi tempo em configurá-lo no linux
[14:57] <toter> tem um programa para windows chamado zadig
[14:57] <toter> que faz isso que vc. está querendo... com um click do mouse
[14:57] <telec> toter, eu conheço, eu usava ele no windows, tenho 8 dongles desse ... uso a mts anos
[14:57] <telec> mas quero usar gnuradio
[14:58] <toter> ah sim...
[14:58] <telec> ele funciona perfeito se eu dou rmmod
[14:58] <telec> só q nao quero fazer isso toda vez q for usar
[14:59] <toter> bom, eu realmente não sei...
[15:00] <toter> entendo... o gnuradio oferece algo a mais do que o sdrsharp??
[15:00] <toter> esse programinha para o windows é fenomenal... e roda via wine
[15:01] <toter> se vc. usa rmmod no linux, funciona... é manual, mas funciona... no windows, o zadig tb. é manual, toda vez é preciso ativá-lo
[15:01] <telec> toter, cara, o gnuradio oferece muito mais ... pq vc mesmo pode fazer seu diagrama de processamento de sinais
[15:02] <toter> esse tópico de RTL-SDR ainda não possui uma ferramente específica que faz tudo automático...
[15:02] <toter> talvez é por isso que é divertido :)
[15:02] <toter> vc. pode fazer um bash script para automatizar certas tarefas
[15:02] <toter> já li a respeito do gnuradio... mas esse processamento de sinais seria algo para usar com um hardware mais potente, não é mesmo?
[15:02] <toter> tipo o HackRF
[15:03] <toter> que recebe e transmite
[15:03] <telec> toter, sim, tambem, mas o gnuradio permite uma analize melhor dos sinais
[15:04] <telec> vc pode fazer qualquer coisa com ele na verdade
[15:04] <telec> eu vou usa-lo como analizador de baseband pros transmissores q faço
[15:04] <toter> entendo... bom... quaisquer novidades que vc. descobrir, atualize-nos aqui no canal
[15:04] <toter> RTL-SDR é um tópico super interessante
[15:05] <telec> toter, eu adoro esse dongle, comprei 8 deles, pra caso um dia parem de fabricar kkk
[15:05] <toter> para quem estiver interessado em saber mais...
[15:05] <toter> dei uma palestra básica sobre RTL-SDR
[15:05] <toter> vou colocar o link da palestra aqui, um momento
[15:06] <Raphywsk> Olá, estou pensando em instalar o os no meu not, gostaria de saber se é possível, sem perder o windows?
[15:08] <toter> paciência ao esperar carregar o pdf... pois ele tem 15 mb... http://bit.ly/ondas2014
[15:08] <toter> telec: tenho apenas um :(
[15:09] <telec> toter, tenho 8 , e planos pra comprar um USRP
[15:09] <telec> um dia ...
[15:10] <telec> kkk
[15:10] <telec> pq custa 3k
[15:10] <toter> pois é... já ia comentar sobre o preço
[15:10] <telec> toter, mas o USRP é o pai dos SDR
[15:10] <telec> sem nenhuma duvida
[15:10] <telec> tem o HackRF tb
[15:10] <telec> mas ...
[15:10] <telec> eu prefiro o USRP
[15:12] <toter> entendo... vc. já testou ads-b? o que vc. já testou de interessante?
[15:13] <telec> toter, sim, eu já liguei o ADSB dentro do aeroporto de congonhas, peguei avião pra caramba
[15:15] <toter> já fiz uns testes aqui no aeroporto de goiânia
[15:16] <telec> toter, eu sou da area de RF ... sou radioamador a uns 10 anos, sou apaixonado pro essa area
[16:40] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[16:40] <CyberWorld> Boa tarde
[16:41] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[16:42] <CyberWorld> tranquilo e por ai ?
[16:43] <mirqui> aqui vamos todos bem graças a deus :)
[16:43] <mirqui> quais são as novas?
[18:32] <Elfon> PEssoal, só consigo acessar em modo leitura pastas compartilhadas no samba... o que pode ser?
[18:37] <CyberWorld> ja tentou atualizar o samba
[18:37] <CyberWorld> ?
[18:39] <Elfon> CyberWorld: atualizou na semana passada
[18:39] <Elfon> não se se é pau no samba ou alguma coisa que bugou aqui
[18:40] <CyberWorld> desinstala e instala de novo pow
[18:40] <CyberWorld> pelo terminal
[18:41] <Patrezze> Pessoal, em ambiente corporativo. Algum de você já teve experiência de autenticar o usuário do domínio (seja implementando com o samba ou AD)?
[18:41] <Patrezze> vocês*
[18:42] <Patrezze> com estação de trabalho com distribuição ubuntu. Ou autenticam o usuário de rede com outra tecnologia?
[18:43] <Patrezze> A pergunta não como faz, mas sim o que tem utilizado. :)
[18:44] <Patrezze> já me falaram de serviço radius para autenticar usuário que utilizem estações de trabalho linux
[18:44] <CyberWorld> vc quer autentica um usurio numa rede ?
[18:47] <Patrezze> Sim. Para usuário com win já sabemos que ad ou samba é o mais comum. Mas digamos que o mesmo usuário vá utilizar uma estação de trabalho em outro setor da empresa que seja linux.
[18:47] <Patrezze> faria ele autenticar pelo AD para acessar essa estação de trabalho?
[18:47] <CyberWorld> porra bicho eu lembrava como faz isso
[18:48] <CyberWorld> mais agora deu branco
[18:48] <CyberWorld> eu sei q vc autoriza o usuario como se fosse um documento
[18:48] <CyberWorld> pelo chmod
[18:48] <CyberWorld> mais n sei como faz agora
[18:49] <Patrezze> ou seria outro serviço, que consume o mesmo LDAP que o Samba ou AD consomem.
[18:49] <Patrezze> entendi
[18:49] <Patrezze> me falaram que com radius é capaz de executar comandos no linux quando usuário autenticasse
[18:56] <ule> acredito que sim
[18:56] <ule> radius vc pode gerar logs.. criar triggers
[18:56] <ule> provedores ISP tem mta automacao nisso
[18:56] <ule> para ver se o cara esta com a conta em dia
[18:56] <ule> :)
[18:57] <Patrezze> Legal. A ideia seria uma autenticação centralizada para usuários que usem o linux.
[18:58] <Patrezze> Dentro da instituição
[19:00] <rafael> LDAP
[19:01] <Patrezze> Isso, o LDAP ficaria por trás do serviço.
[19:18] <rafael> Apenas um problema com LDAP
[21:04] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[04:57] <Kilos> hello world
[05:23] <toddc> hi Kilos
[05:25] <Kilos> hi toddc can you tell me where you are located please, for my timezone list
[05:25] <Kilos> hehe you cant be far off us
[05:25] <toddc> US AZ
[05:26] <Kilos> unless you still in sunday night
[05:26] <Kilos> whew
[05:26] <toddc> yes Sunday night still here
[05:27] <Kilos> whew we are 07.30 in the morning
[05:27] <Kilos> ty for the info
[05:27] <toddc> I prefer night work
[05:27] <Kilos> whew
[05:45] <Kilos> hi dpm taihsiang
[05:45] <taihsiang> hi Kilos
[06:57] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:57] <Kilos> hi MooDoo
[09:18] * superfly has family in AZ
[09:19] <Kilos> ah
[09:19] <superfly> Kilos: they are 9 hours behind us
[09:20] <Kilos> shame like nhaines and the weed and crash kid
[11:19] <Kilos> hi TaeheeJang
[11:19] <TaeheeJang> Kilos: Good day Kilos! how are you?
[11:19] <Kilos> well ty and you?
[11:20] <TaeheeJang> I'm spending busy days because mid-term test of my college is next week...
[11:20] <TaeheeJang> But I'm fine lol
[11:21] <Kilos> aha
[12:45] <Kilos> hi PabloRubianes
[12:49] <PabloRubianes> hello Kilos, how are you?
[12:50] <Kilos> well ty PabloRubianes and you?
[12:50] <PabloRubianes> fine, but getting to work... :(
[12:50] <Kilos> lol
[12:50] <PabloRubianes> hehehe
[12:50] <Kilos> thats life
[12:50] <PabloRubianes> yeap
[12:51] <Kilos> no work , no eat
[12:51] <PabloRubianes> and no tech stuff
[12:51] <Kilos> yeah
[13:39] <Kilos> ohi dholbach you well?
[13:39] <Kilos> :D
[13:40] <dholbach> hey Kilos
[17:05] <tiyteeze> hey, ned
[17:06] <tiyteeze> I need help, on my nexus 7 I can not migrate to xubuntu (I am on ubuntu 12.10), can you help me?
[17:14] <belkinsa> Please /join #ubuntu for tech support, this channel is for LoCo support only.
[18:26] <Kilos> hi JanC
[18:30] <Kilos> wb dholbach
[18:31] <dholbach> hey, thanks :)
[18:41] <Kilos> could all ubuntu peeps in africa please join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+members
[18:42] <Kilos> and if you guys get queries from peeps in africa please point them there and #ubuntu-africa
[18:46] <dholbach> and/or you could invite the African LoCo teams to be part of the team?
[18:46] <Kilos> i have dholbach a few times already
[18:46] <Kilos> hehe
[18:47] <Kilos> now i will start mailing the dead or dying locos and trying to revive them
[18:48] <Kilos> the prob seems to be that the locos have faded out and the odd ubuntu users have gone into the lugs or just drift around on their own
[18:49] <belkinsa> That's like the case everywhere else in our LoCo Community.
[18:50] <Kilos> we just have to find a way to revive the interest
[18:50] <Kilos> the 9 locos i have connected to are all excited
[18:51] <belkinsa> Maybe a planning meeting could help with the 9?
[18:51] <Kilos> im waiting for neo32 to finish a project
[18:51] <Kilos> another week i think
[18:52] <Kilos> it seems i am the only one with time to spare
[18:53] <dholbach> nice!
[18:53] <belkinsa> I know how you feel
[18:53] <dholbach> meeting up is a good idea
[18:53] <Kilos> haha
[18:53] <belkinsa> You can just have the meeting with neo and e-mail the minutes to him.
[18:53] <Kilos> i do chat to them on irc whenever they show their faces
[18:53] <Kilos> nono he must be there
[18:54] <Kilos> i need to delegate some
[18:54] <Kilos> im still hunting up the other 9 dead locos
[18:54] <belkinsa> I think you need to use #ubuntu-meeting
[18:55] <belkinsa> For the meeting and use the mailing list to make the call for it
[18:55] <belkinsa> And doodle poll to get the suggested times
[18:55] <belkinsa> Mailing-list = your LoCo's
[18:56] <Kilos> well im asking each one to join the list at the moment , it was only generated last night and we have 6 there already so it can only grow from here on
[18:56] <Kilos> hi MooDoo
[18:57] <MooDoo> howdy
[18:57] <belkinsa> Aren't you a Member? Maybe you can post something about on your blog if you have one or mail the news team to add something about this to the news letter?
[18:58] <Kilos> i will be mailing the news team as soon as the site goes live
[18:58] <MooDoo> you could always just mention it in #ubuntu-news as well?
[18:59] <Kilos> should be soon depending on other commitments
[18:59] <Kilos> im hoping pleia2 can add something in the weekly magazine too
[18:59] <Kilos> but i want the site live first
[18:59] <belkinsa> Ah, I see.
[19:00] <Kilos> have run it on local and it is beautiful
[19:00] <Kilos> ill drop the link here the minute it goes live
[19:00] <belkinsa> Alright.
[19:01] <MooDoo> i've come in halfway through this, what's the site about ? lol
[19:01] <Kilos> ubuntu-africa
[19:01] * belkinsa never asked too
[19:01] <Kilos> static site
[19:02] <MooDoo> Kilos: don't forget if you have ubuntu in the domain name, you'll need to get permission to use the trademark, i did with ubuntu.technology
[19:02] <Kilos> oh my
[19:03] <MooDoo> it's really easy to arrange
[19:03] <Kilos> i got permission for an official irc channel #ubuntu-africa
[19:04] <MooDoo> yes but for a domain you need to sign something from the trademark team at canonical - http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/contact-us
[19:04] <Kilos> and asked if it could be hosted by ubuntu
[19:04] <MooDoo> this is only for a domain that has the word ubuntu in it
[19:04] <Kilos> i already have ubuntu-africa.info
[19:05] <Kilos> i was told ubuntu couldnt host it so superfly is hosting the site
[19:05] <MooDoo> yes but your still using the ubuntu trademark and for that you need permission
[19:05] <Kilos> ok let me ask there
[19:05] <Kilos> whew
[19:09] <MooDoo> I also had to have this on my site - ubuntu.technology/disclaimer/ a disclaimer
[19:09] <Kilos> whew
[19:15] <Kilos> ok ive applied at http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/contact-us
[19:19] <Kilos> hopefully i ticked all the right stuff
[19:20] <Kilos> does anyone here view that application
[19:21] <Kilos> MooDoo can you tell me more about the disclaimer please
[20:33] <superfly> Kilos: from their terms and policies, I don't see how we'd be infringing anything, but being clear about it is probably a good thing anyways.
[20:34] <Kilos> ah cool , i have applied for permission to use the trademark anyway
[20:34] <Kilos> ty superfly
[20:37] <Kilos> night everyone
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-desktop
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[04:43] <larsu> good morning!
[05:43] <didrocks> good morning
[07:04] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[07:04] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:04] <seb128> hey didrocks :-)
[07:38] <willcooke> morning
[07:39] <didrocks> happy Monday willcooke!
[07:47] <FJKong> seb128: hey seb
[07:47] <FJKong> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1380981 which team maintain this ?
[07:48] <willcooke> Cr crashing on startup again :/
[07:48] * willcooke runs in debug mode
[07:48] <willcooke> hey FJKong, didrocks
[07:48] <FJKong> willcooke: morning
[07:50] <didrocks> FJKong: foundation team is maintaining ubiquity, you should poke cyphermox I guess
[07:51] <FJKong> didrocks: ok thanks
[07:53] <willcooke> didrocks, I caught a sigsegv in Cr start up in gdb - what do I do now? Just type "bt"?
[07:54] <darkxst> willcooke, "t a a bt" is usually the best
[07:55] <didrocks> willcooke: thread apply all
[07:55] <didrocks> and then bt full
[07:55] <didrocks> which is "t a a bt" equivalent (but easier to remember IMHO with the full semantic)
[07:56] <willcooke> thx didrocks
[07:57] <darkxst> didrocks, I find that theory to fall over, since sometimes you need 2-3 letters to disambiguate the commands ;(
[07:57] <darkxst> and I don't really wanna be typing the full things
[07:59] <seb128> FJKong, hey, what didrocks said
[07:59] <FJKong> seb128: yp I will ping him
[08:00] <willcooke> didrocks, how do I save this to a file to upload to LP?
[08:01] <didrocks> willcooke: before typing bt full:
[08:01] <didrocks> set logging on
[08:01] <didrocks> bt full
[08:01] <didrocks> set logging off
[08:01] <didrocks> -> this will save in gdb.txt in your current dir
[08:08] <willcooke> didrocks, can I do that "bt full" after I've done a "t a a bt" - will all the information still be correct?
[08:09] <didrocks> willcooke: sure, it will keep the same state
[08:10] <willcooke> didrocks, great, thanks very much
[08:11] <didrocks> yw!
[09:13] <seb128> bah
[09:14] * seb128 gives the look to https://launchpadlibrarian.net/202763833/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.xdg-user-dirs_0.15-2ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:14] <seb128> it's building locally and in a pbuilder
[09:14] <seb128> no f clue what's wrong :-/
[09:15] * didrocks is having "fun" as well with python_distutils & python3
[09:17] <Laney> seb128: fails for me in sbuild
[09:17] <Laney> indeed there is no po/aa.po
[09:17] <seb128> Laney, shrug
[09:18] <seb128> but it's in the launchpad_translation_export patch
[09:18] <seb128> and it's there when I apt-get source
[09:18] * seb128 doesn't get it
[09:18] <Laney> haha
[09:18] <Laney> that patch is bugged
[09:19] <seb128> ?
[09:19] <seb128> wfm
[09:19] <Laney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10814554/
[09:19] <didrocks> yeah, no aa.po in the patch
[09:19] <seb128> ?
[09:20] <Laney> no po/
[09:20] <didrocks> seb128: some are in the <root>/
[09:20] <seb128> $ patch -p1 < debian/patches/launchpad_translation_export.patch
[09:20] <seb128> patching file aa.po
[09:20] <Laney> not po/aa.po
[09:20] <didrocks> xdg-user-dirs-0.15/aa.po
[09:20] <seb128> grumpf
[09:20] <seb128> why does it build in a pbuilder?
[09:20] <seb128> or locally
[09:21] <Laney> nfi
[09:21] <Laney> but mv *.po po/ makes it build for me
[09:21] <seb128> thanks, let me fix that
[09:22] <seb128> apt-get source xdg-user-dirs
[09:22] <seb128> cd xdg-user-dirs-0.15
[09:22] <seb128> $ ls po
[09:22] <seb128> aa.po en_CA.po kk.po quot.sed
[09:22] <seb128> go figure...
[09:22] <seb128> grrrr
[09:22] <seb128> k, that's the old version because I don't have a deb-src for proposed
[09:22] <seb128> Laney, didrocks, thanks
[09:23] <Laney> haha
[09:23] <didrocks> ahah, no worry! :)
[09:23] <Laney> bad release team for approving that
[09:24] <didrocks> those guys…
[09:24] <Laney> cowboys
[11:38] <willcooke> Working at home for years, yet only today do I consider slicing my sandwich diagonally
[11:39] <willcooke> It's the future.
[11:53] <willcooke> (abuse of position) qengho, I just logged this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1443395
[12:13] <davmor2> willcooke: what you need good sir is a sandwich toaster it cuts it like that automagically and turns the contents of the sandwich into molten Lava ;)
[12:13] <willcooke> davmor2, Ohhhhh! I loves me a toasted sandwhich! I don't think I'd be able to stop eating them
[12:14] <willcooke> *sandwich
[12:14] <willcooke> As I've always said, if you want your sandwich to be taken seriously it really needs to slightly resemble a shell
[12:17] <qengho> willcooke: eh? Weird.Are any processes eating CPU time then?
[12:18] <willcooke> qengho, strangely - gnome keyring (which I saw another report about)
[12:19] <qengho> qengho: ah ah ah. I know what that is.
[12:19] <willcooke> qengho, once I've got over that initial issue - it seems to be fine all day, then switch off and back on - and /sometimes/ the problem comes back
[12:22] <qengho> willcooke: Cr wants to cache all the keys to use in auth. Know the pop-up name, address, password form completion? It doesn't ask gnome-keyring for a match on every form key-press. It constructs a list at startup. The IO is too hard on gnome-keyring. I'll try to back it off.
[12:22] <willcooke> ah, nice one!
[12:22] <willcooke> thx qengho
[12:39] <seb128> willcooke, qengho, that's https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=98601 right?
[12:43] <willcooke> hrm, could be
[12:47] <qengho> Yes, that's the one, seb128.
[12:47] <seb128> k
[13:03] <desrt> willcooke: new launch today, btw :)
[13:03] <willcooke> desrt, ooooh!! Feed?
[13:03] * willcooke googles
[13:03] <desrt> it's at 16h30 EST if the weather holds out
[13:07] <flexiondotorg> Does, what will become Unity 8, require a compositor?
[13:07] <desrt> flexiondotorg: it has its own compositor built-in
[13:07] <desrt> there is no uncomposited mode under mir
[13:07] <seb128> hey desrt
[13:07] <flexiondotorg> desrt, OK. Understood.
[13:07] <desrt> hi seb :)
[13:08] <flexiondotorg> desrt, Does it has a software compositor fallback or require a GPU?
[13:08] <desrt> i'm sure it would be able to use llvmpipe
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> desrt, Thanks.
[13:09] <seb128> bug #1118903
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> seb128, Thanks.
[13:09] <seb128> yw!
[13:20] <seb128> hey pitti, had a good trip? didn't wake up too early?
[13:21] <ogra_> melatonin FTW !
[13:21] <pitti> bonjour tout le monde !
[13:21] <pitti> hey seb128
[13:21] <didrocks> mterry is closing a Quickly blueprint for 13.04
[13:21] <didrocks> bonjour pitti !
[13:22] <pitti> seb128: well, I woke up several times on Sunday and stopped sleeping at 4:30, today at 5:15, so progress!
[13:22] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[13:22] <pitti> alors, beaucoup de temps pour du travail et courier
[13:22] <seb128> pitti, c'est tôt ! :-(
[13:22] <didrocks> en parlant de courir, c'est l'heure !
[13:23] <pitti> didrocks: :) enjoy!
[13:23] <didrocks> pitti: thanks, hope the coffee will keep you awake :)
[13:24] <seb128> didrocks, enjoy
[13:24] <pitti> didrocks: je ne bois pas du café :)
[13:24] <pitti> didrocks: mais je me sense d'accord
[14:45] <seb128> kenvandine, do you have any clue about the issue with the updates panel loading?
[14:45] <seb128> or just doing random debug poking to try to get some idea about it?
[14:47] <kenvandine> seb128, i have a branch that seems to randomly fix it :)
[14:47] <kenvandine> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1438633/view/head:/plugins/about/PageComponent.qml
[14:47] <seb128> kenvandine, doing what? having a sleep(1) in the loader? ;-)
[14:48] <kenvandine> seb128, i can't reproduce it with that
[14:48] <kenvandine> no...
[14:48] <kenvandine> just setting a variable from the getByName call
[14:48] <kenvandine> instead of doing it inline
[14:48] <seb128> kenvandine, I saw that diff, it's what made me ping you
[14:48] <kenvandine> i was just doing that to get some debug output
[14:48] <seb128> but I didn't see a change, just console.warn calls
[14:48] <kenvandine> and now i can't reproduce it :/
[14:48] <seb128> right
[14:48] <seb128> maybe timing
[14:48] <kenvandine> i reverted it
[14:49] <kenvandine> and reproduced it again
[14:49] <seb128> like you slowed down things?
[14:49] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:49] <kenvandine> must be racy
[14:54] <willcooke> Guess what this is: http://i.imgur.com/ffoKyoT.png
[14:54] <willcooke> popey, ^^
[14:54] <willcooke> anyone ^^^
[14:55] <Laney> places where your stolen garden gnome has been photographed
[14:55] <willcooke> The garden gnomes bit is correct
[14:55] <popey> :)
[14:55] <willcooke> I hacked up a script which took the city date from the directory and geo coded it and stuck it on a map
[14:56] <willcooke> Poor show Kazakh Ubuntu fans - apply for more jobs at Canonical
[14:58] <qengho> We need more Africans.
[15:03] <willcooke> yes
[15:03] <desrt> nearly all of our africans are europeans
[15:03] <Laney> the #1 guy is african, it's all good
[15:04] <desrt> (Canaries and Réunion)
[15:05] <didrocks> nobody react to have been treated of gnome? :p
[15:06] * desrt has no objection to being called a gnome :)
[15:06] <willcooke> :D
[15:25] <seb128> cyphermox, hey
[15:25] <cyphermox> hey!
[15:25] <cyphermox> seb128: how are you?
[15:26] <seb128> cyphermox, did you see my mention that the nm-applet segfault seems not fixed?
[15:26] <cyphermox> I did
[15:26] <seb128> cyphermox, I'm good, thanks! How are you?
[15:26] <cyphermox> not too bad
[15:26] <cyphermox> i thought I had answered it was going to take more work, it should have been fine
[15:26] <seb128> cyphermox, should upstream it, maybe they have a clue about the issue and fix it (then we can backport the patch)
[15:26] <cyphermox> yeah, should be upstreamed
[15:26] <seb128> cyphermox, can you do it? ;-)
[15:26] <cyphermox> ...
[15:27] <seb128> lol
[15:27] <cyphermox> I guess I can spend the extra 2 minutes to do it, yes ;)
[15:27] <cyphermox> where is that bug again?
[15:27] <seb128> cyphermox, thanks, it's more that you know upstream/n-m better so you might be more suited to deal with followups than me
[15:27] <seb128> cyphermox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1418260
[15:27] <cyphermox> ta
[15:28] <seb128> cyphermox, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1181128 is a fedora equivalent if you want to show upstream that it's not Ubuntu specific
[15:28] <seb128> cyphermox, yw!
[15:30] <seb128> happyaron, what's the status on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1439202 ?
[15:32] <seb128> ted, hey, do you have any idea what https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/45a450ff9d534458de5666d47abe150801af4041 is about?
[15:32] <seb128> indicator-session-unknown-user-error in upstart, seems like a weird report
[15:32] <seb128> is that a recoverable error or something?
[15:33] <ted> seb128, Give me a minute, OTP.
[15:33] <seb128> ted, sure, no hurry
[15:33] <Laney> desrt: dconf-editor's COPYING says LGPL 2.1 but about says GPL 2+ --- who wins? :)
[15:33] <Laney> hi, btw!
[15:34] <seb128> TheMuso, hey, could you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1425447 (not sure if you saw the bug assignment/comments)
[15:35] <ted> seb128, Yeah, seems to be a recoverable error, I think that charles_ made it.
[15:35] <ted> seb128, Seems like were getting a uid of zero in there...
[15:35] <ted> charles_, An instance: https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/a0a947c0-e1d6-11e4-9f12-fa163e75317b
[15:35] <seb128> indeed
[15:36] * charles_ looks
[15:36] <seb128> charles_, ted, bug #1443502 (not sure why e.u.c thinks it's an "upstart" bug?)
[15:37] <ted> seb128, It's probably because it happens when i-session is shutting down, so by the time apport gets to getting the PID information it is no longer existing, so it reports on the parent.
[15:37] <seb128> k
[15:38] <seb128> charles, ted, oh, another one for you (and then I stop the nagging for today ;-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1432446 ... seems like the handling of missing session bus is incomplete
[15:39] <desrt> Laney: uhm... about, i guess
[15:39] <desrt> Laney: COPYING is probably because dconf itself was lgpl and i forgot to change that
[15:39] <Laney> ya, figured
[15:40] <Laney> merci
[15:40] * Laney loves writing debian/copyright
[15:40] <ted> seb128, I think that charles already has that on his TODO
[15:41] <seb128> k
[15:41] <seb128> larsu, Laney, was the "gedit underline errors" issues supposed to be fixed? it does underline those in light grey here, it's almost not visible
[15:42] <Laney> yes, works here
[15:42] <seb128> I wonder if I need a session restart?
[15:42] <seb128> brb
[15:42] <Laney> do you have the latest light-themes?
[15:44] <charles> seb128, ted, ack, I even got a card for it added to this sprint
[15:44] <seb128> charles, great, thanks
[15:44] <charles> (as of about 30 minutes ago)
[15:45] <seb128> Laney, larsu, sorry, seems like I didn't get the ubuntu-themes update when I updated earlier for some reason
[15:47] <Laney> at least it's an easy fix :P
[15:48] <seb128> ;-)
[15:50] <Laney> unpacking ubuntu-docs always kills my SSD
[15:58] <happyaron> seb128: is looking at it now
[15:58] <seb128> happyaron, thanks
[15:59] <happyaron> seb128: possibly it will be tomorrow to give a treatment..
[16:00] <seb128> happyaron, sure, that's not an issue
[16:48] <didrocks> see you tomorrow guys
[17:07] <larsu> seb128: sorry was out for early dinner and looking at an appartment. Seems the issue solved itself though?
[17:11] <seb128> larsu, it is yes, thanks
[17:11] <larsu> :)
[20:31] <desrt> damnit
[20:31] <desrt> another scrub :(
[20:32] <desrt> evil weather
[21:10] <TheMuso> seb128: I have asked upstream about whether those crashers already are patched post 6.0. If I'm told they are not, I will be filing them upstream and tagging he launchpad bugs appropriately.
[21:14] <TheMuso> ugy, I wish my client would not tab complete if the person wasn't online. :S
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[09:20] <slickymasterWork> Unit193, you forgot to add the last meeting log to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[10:22] <slickymasterWork> knome, I think that there's something wrong with the team calendar page. It's not loading the calendar, see http://imgur.com/kIO1yxo
[10:36] <knome> works for me
[10:36] <slickymasterWork> I'm just getting http://imgur.com/kIO1yxo
[10:36] <knome> do you have some js/google blocked?
[10:37] <slickymasterWork> not there, I haven't
[10:37] <knome> then i don't know what's happening
[10:37] <slickymasterWork> can you please add the next meeting http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xubuntu+community+meeting&iso=20150415T21
[10:37] <knome> i see that too, but then it loads the calendar
[10:38] <slickymasterWork> I have a medical appointment in 15 minutes
[10:38] <knome> i will at some point
[10:38] <slickymasterWork> ok, thanks
[10:38] <slickymasterWork> got run
[10:47] <knome> hmm, is it thursday 16 or wednesday 15?
[10:48] <knome> i guess wed
[10:51] <knome> Unit193, why isn't the last meeting logs linked in the meetings page?
[13:27] <slickymasterWork> lol knome, already asked Unit193 that
[16:56] <brainwash> ochosi: did you ping anyone from the ubuntu team and inform them about the ubiquity + xfdesktop icon bug?
[17:38] <knome> slickymasterWork, i assumed it was that and set the meeting up in the calendar for wed and also changed the meeting wiki page to say wed.
[17:38] <slickymasterWork> and you assumed right knome, thanks
[17:38] <knome> np
[19:50] <Unit193> knome: I did the other things, missed that one.
[19:52] <knome> which ever one that might be then...:P
[20:03] <Unit193> Added the meeting, changed the agenda and the header, and whathever else.
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-nl
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[07:04] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[08:45] <mandje> mogguh.
[08:45] <mandje> idd JanC. zit er zomaar in bij banshee en rythmbox. zonder poeha worden itunes shares getoond. alleen benaderen lukt niet want ik zie ergens dat de itunes niet hoger dan 7.0 moet zijn. de recente versie is 12.x. ahum. :)
[08:46] <lordievader> Klinkt als Windows, "hey het begint met 'Windows 9' dat is vast 95 of 98 ".
[08:53] <trijntje> heeft dat er niet ook mee te maken dat apple expres compatibiliteit sloopt? Dat was ook zo met de ipod nano dacht ik, eerst werkte die wel met rhythmbox maar na een update niet meer omdat ze vanalles op het apparaat encrypten ineens
[08:56] <mandje> ja apple zal vast oorzaak probleem zijn. zal allemaal wel reverse engineered moeten worden na iedere verandering bij itunes. te veel gedoe.
[08:57] <lordievader> Ach Itunes over Qemu gaat best prima.
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> heb vroeger ook libmobiledevice getest, kweet niet of nog goed is nu?
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> of itunes via wine/playonlinux
[08:58] <mandje> lordievader: dat is dan een windows itunes draaien als zelfstandig proces binnen linux of in een windows VM?
[08:59] <mandje> goed idee wel. itunes via wine/playonlinux. van alle gezeur af. :)
[09:00] <lordievader> In een Windows VM, met de iDevice doorgelust.
[09:01] <mandje> iDevice hangend aan usb door naar VM.
[09:03] <mandje> libmobiledevice laatst iets mee geprobeerd. dat gaf geen oplossing weet ik nog. vage notie van: neuh, wil niet.
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> ziet er nochtans uit dat nog updates uitkomen regelmatig
[09:08] <lordievader> Volgens mij kreeg ik, toen ik het voor het laatst probeerde, steeds de melding "vertrouwd U deze computer", "ja", "vertrouwd U deze computer", "ja", loop. Volgens mij vertrouwd mijn iPad mijn input niet.
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> ja sinds die icloud hack zal apple wel alles strikter gemaakt hebben ook
[09:14] <mandje> nieuwste IOS update heeft nu eindelijk een NL optie. alleen mannen-stem nog. ik nu maar es kijken of het iets nuttig is. lachen. wil die steeds moeder bellen omdat het verkeerd verstaan wordt. zoekt naar moeder in contacten. kan niet vinden.. ik zeg: moeder is dood, overleden. zegt ie: ok. en weer een volgende keer doet ie hetzelfde. goed, zover reikt de 'intelligentie'. een streep zetten door 'moeder' is al te moeilijk. :)
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> geef mij maar een veilige ubuntu phone :p
[09:16] <mandje> *ging over siri
[11:32] <vraagje> Goedemiddag
[11:32] <vraagje> Iemand aanwezig die mij kan helpen met een vraagje?
[11:33] <OerHeks> hallo vraagje
[11:34] <vraagje> Ik heb een vraagje
[11:35] <vraagje> Ik moet voor een project een ubuntu server versie hebben die pittig lek is welke zou je mij aanraden?
[11:35] <OerHeks> een hele oude, daar krijg je geen updates voor
[11:35] <OerHeks> heartbleed etc
[11:36] <vraagje> Ja er moet aardig wat lekjes inzitten
[11:38] <OerHeks> probeer ubuntu server 11.04 of zoiets, unsupported. http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:39] <vraagje> Oke! Thanks!!!:D
[11:40] <OerHeks> Pak een torrent, unsupported versions zijn gewist van http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[11:41] <vraagje> ik vond deze website nog http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[11:42] <OerHeks> oh ja, die is er ook nog
[11:43] <OerHeks> door ubuntu met 'old-releases' te vervangen in je sources.list kan je wel wat programma's installeren ook nog
[11:44] <mysterio> hallo allemaal, hoe kan ik vanuit virtualbox een fysieke harde schijf selecteren, om die met recuva in een virtuele windows 7 te laten scannen op lost files?
[11:47] <vraagje> ahh oke Thanks OerHeks!
[11:52] <OerHeks> .. vanuit virtualbox ... op een virtuele windows 7 .. wat een rare omweg.
[11:53] <OerHeks> kan dat wel, een virtuele windows scannen ? vraag maar eerst eens in ##windows ofzo
[12:19] <mysterio> Ik weet niet of dat kan, maar ik heb ubuntu over mijn ntfs harde schijf heen geinstallleerd, en wil nog wat office en visual studio bestanden terughalen. met photorec kan ik niet op een usb stick saven, recuva werkt prima, maar alleen onder windows. Vandaar de virtuele windows 7, maar die moet dat wel toegang hebben tot de gedeelde mappen(Partities) op de harde schijf, op die manier probeer ik de bestanden terug te halen.
[12:20] <mysterio> Als er een efficientere oplossing is om enkele files terug te halen, zonder ubuntu te saboteren verneem ik dat graag hier. Inspirerende groet, Mysterio
[12:32] <SCHAAP137> ik heb een voorstel
[12:33] <SCHAAP137> laten we met échte namen ook toestaan dat er speciale tekens in voorkomen, en dat een hoofdletter niet meer per se aan het begin hoeft
[12:34] <trijntje> mysterio: je bent je bestanden gegarandeerd kwijt. je hebt het systeem nu al zoveel gebruikt dat alle data overschreven is.
[12:34] <OerHeks> ~-=OerHeks=-~ lijkt me wel wat, handig om te tiepen
[12:36] <mysterio> hoi Treintje. dat kan wel zo zijn, maar ik heb ook nog niet het verlossende antwoord, al helpt het nu niet, dan wel een volgende keer of voor iemand anders
[12:36] <mysterio> Sorry, Trijntje
[12:39] <trijntje> mysterio: wat je wilt met virtualbox kan niet, je kan voor zover ik weet de gast geen root-toegang op de harddisk van de host geven
[12:39] <trijntje> je kan het beste vanaf de usb/dvd waarmee je geinstalleerrd hebt opstarten, en daarin photoreq installeren en kijken of je nog wat terug kunt halen
[12:41] <mysterio> heb ik gedaan, en hij haalt wat terug, maar kan dat alleen volgens mij opslaan in de lokale map, niet op een usb of andere partitie
[12:51] <trijntje> mysterio: waarom kan je dat niet op een andere partitie of usb stick opslaan?
[12:53] <mysterio> die staat niet bij de selectie
[12:53] <trijntje> selectie?
[12:55] <trijntje> mysterio: deze persoon legt uit hoe je naar een andere map kan in photorec, het begin kan je negeren omdat je al geinstalleerd hebt http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/recoverdeletedfiles/
[12:57] <mysterio> dank trijntje, ik zal die tutorial nog een keer door nemen, en laat het uiteindelijke resultaat hier nog weten. nog een fijne dag, en dank voor het meedenken
[12:57] <trijntje> mysterio: succes er mee
[17:59] <JJ__> Goede avond allemaal
[18:02] <lordievader> o/
[18:02] <oldsk00l> iemand ervaring met unrealircd
[18:02] <JJ__> nope
[18:04] <JJ__> Heb lubuntu ondanks geinstalleerd en ben al helmaal fan1 maar heb nog een probleem met de video of geleuid kaart is daar iemnd handig mee?
[18:04] <oldsk00l> jammer
[18:04] <oldsk00l> zoek namelijk de command op oper status terug te krijgen
[18:04] <oldsk00l> hbe eigen irc server draaien maar naar stroom storing heb ik geen oper status meer
[18:04] <JJ__> doet het wel via de 3,5 mm plug maar niet via de speakers
[18:07] <systeem> oldsk00l: /oper username pass?
[18:12] <oldsk00l> en dat in het dest betrevende channel
[18:14] <oldsk00l> ik bedoel operatwer in een channel he
[18:15] <systeem> ah /mode +o user
[18:16] <lordievader> Daarvoor moet je meestal zelf wel op rechten hebben.
[18:16] <systeem> dat is gewoon op, ipv oper :)
[18:16] <systeem> mja, anders via chanserv
[18:18] <oldsk00l> andere channel aanmaken zeg maar
[18:18] <oldsk00l> wand als ik dat intiets zie ik : No such nick/channel
[18:19] <systeem> ?
[18:19] <oldsk00l> als ik /mode +o intoets zie ik no user or channel
[18:20] <lordievader> Daar moet nog een user achter.
[18:26] <oldsk00l> dat blijft hij zeggen +o: No such nick/channel
[18:28] <lordievader> Is dat waar?
[18:29] <oldsk00l> raar he
[18:32] <oldsk00l> jup
[18:32] <oldsk00l> en krijg geen operator status in de channel
[18:32] <oldsk00l> had een channel aangemaakt op mijn eigen server maar naar een stroom uitval. zijn ik en een andere persoon gewoon users geworden nu is er geen oper meer
[18:32] <oldsk00l> en ik wil wel opr status terug zeg maar
[18:32] <oldsk00l> channel operatore terug zeg maar
[18:33] <OerHeks> log in op je server en herstart je irc service ?
[18:33] <lordievader> oldsk00l: Ik heb een backlog ;)
[18:33] <lordievader> oldsk00l: Maar is hetgeen wat hij zegt waar?
[18:35] <oldsk00l> lordievader: * #01101: You're not channel operator
[18:35] <oldsk00l> * +o: No such nick/channel
[18:35] <oldsk00l> * #01101: You're not channel operator
[18:35] <oldsk00l> dat zegt mijn back log
[18:36] <lordievader> That makes sens.
[18:36] <lordievader> sense*
[18:36] <lordievader> Ik zou zeggen lees de documentatie, je bent vast niet de eerste die dit overkomt.
[18:40] <oldsk00l> snbap ik heb het al opgelost :P
[18:40] <oldsk00l> lordievader: bednakt weer de redende eengel he :P
[18:41] <lordievader> Documentatie lost alles op \o/
[18:45] <oldsk00l> idd
[18:45] <oldsk00l> had al ghelezen beste is om ff iedereen van de server te kicken en dan al eerste te gaan joinen :P
[19:29] <systeem> oldsk00l: voor zulke situaties heb je nickserv, chanserv enz.
[19:30] <systeem> dan kun je altijd op worden
[19:30] <oldsk00l> idd
[19:30] <systeem> zonder iedereen eruit te hoeven kicken :p
[19:30] <oldsk00l> oke
[19:30] <oldsk00l> dan word je weer op zeg maar
[19:31] <oldsk00l> als je die command invoert
[19:31] <systeem> eerst identifyen met nickserv
[19:31] <systeem> en daarna kun je chanserv bedienen
[19:31] <oldsk00l> oke :P
[19:31] <oldsk00l> handig
[19:31] <systeem> yep
[19:49] <oldsk00l> hij zegt dan dit ChanServ: No such nick/channel
[19:49] <oldsk00l> part kan i kwel maar register niet
[19:50] <oldsk00l> ik bedoel; drop
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-co
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[15:47] <yona_ikel> quien es el operador aqui
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[00:50] <derekv> daredevil, so dark
[13:44] <cmaloney> Morning
[13:49] <brousch> ayep
[15:15] <greg-g> hah: https://www.globalsign.com/en/ssl/ssl-open-source/
[15:15] <greg-g> think someone is afraid of letsencrypt?
[15:57] <cmaloney> What the hell?
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"cmaloney",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-pt
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[21:04] <astroo-> ola pesssoal
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[18:26] <bwmaker> Happy Monday.
[21:29] <wrst> well Monday at least :)
[21:56] <bwmaker> Monday...
[22:12] <Unit193> Ba daa ba da da da.
[22:52] <wrst> ha ha
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"bwmaker",
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2015-04-13-#ubuntu-ie
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[10:42] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:42] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[10:42] <czajkowski> anyone rember the guy who installed Ubuntu in schools in ireland
[10:42] <czajkowski> his dad is on the ubuntu-ie list
[10:42] <czajkowski> and it was in a newspaper
[10:42] <zmoylan-pi> wasn't there a news paper article about that?
[10:43] <zmoylan-pi> dynf
[10:43] <czajkowski> there was and for the life of me I cannot remmeber it
[10:43] <zmoylan-pi> let me have a google...
[10:45] <czajkowski> thanks
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> not showing in email archive or google. where is the ubuntu-ie irc log held? i've gone through dozens of reformats since then
[11:14] <ebel> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[11:20] <zmoylan-pi> was it this kid? http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/roundup/articles/2013/02/13/4014435-computer-whiz-11-saves-businessman-thousandsbr/
[11:58] <czajkowski> zmoylan-pi: you genius!
[11:58] <czajkowski> yes
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> got it from airurandos twitter history :-)
[11:59] <czajkowski> ahhhhhhh
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> quickest to scroll back through tweets as they are very to the point... :-D
[12:00] * zmoylan-pi is celebrating after winning €350 from lotto :-)
[12:00] <czajkowski> oh nice
[12:00] <czajkowski> congrats
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> very, that's a new screen and a rasp pi 2 hopefully running ubuntu
[12:03] <czajkowski> :D
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"ebel",
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-ir
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[10:00] <MahdiPOnline> سلام!
[10:00] <MahdiPOnline> یه مشکلی پیدا کردم که نتونستم جایی واسش راه حل پیدا کنم. در رابطه با desktop enviroment
[10:01] <MahdiPOnline> من از سینامن استفاده میکنم و قبل از اون gnome و kde داشتم
[10:01] <MahdiPOnline> حالا وقتی سوییچ میکنم به یونیتی یه تیکش ظاهر kdeه. یه سری آیکونا ماله گنومه و ...
[10:01] <MahdiPOnline> کسی میدونه باید چیکار کرد؟
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-us-or
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[00:30] <kereltis> Watching lfnw on jblive
[00:30] <kereltis> Pretty funky music
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-se
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[09:51] <goopen> Amoz: Hej
[10:05] <Amoz> goopen, gbye
[20:06] <maxjezy> !Pingu
[20:07] <maxjezy> ge mig en Pongo någon!
[20:26] <Linda^> Varför har jag higlight på pingu? :(
[20:39] <gmathe> hej är det någon här som använder vim?
[20:47] <maxjezy> yes och ajax här
[20:47] <maxjezy> vim ser man aldrig till längre
[20:53] <gmathe> varför ser man aldrig vim längre?
[21:37] <Philip5> !Linda^
[21:38] <Philip5> nähä
[21:42] <peterg> Cha-cha, bloggeeen!
[21:43] <Guest10565> Allmän undran: är pizza-varianterna som finns på pizzerior i Sverige standardiserade på något sätt?
[21:43] <Guest10565> I så fall, varifrån kommer dessa från början?
[21:44] <Guest10565> Jag har nämligen under en tid satt mig för att testa i stort sett alla varianter, och slutresultatet är att jag anser att alla smakar apa förutom vesuvio, cappriciosa och möjligtvis calzone.
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"Guest10565",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[19:11] <MichaelPaoli> Berkeley Linux Users Group (BerkeleyLUG) http://www.berkeleylug.com/?page_id=67 We're at Bobby G's now ... also have some newest Ubuntu 15.04 & Debian 8.0.0
[19:11] <darthrobot> Title: [Berkeley Linux Users Group » Meetings]
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-ru
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[13:13] <andrex> эх
[13:13] <andrex> bsd надаставить...
[13:15] <aleksei`> добрый день
[13:25] <Sergey_IT> надазначитнада
[16:37] <andrex> @voice
[16:37] <andrex> @list
[16:37] <lector> andrex: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Bantracker, Channel, Config, Encyclopedia, Google, Misc, NickAuth, Owner, PackageInfo, Plugin, Quote, Relay, Reply, Seen, Services, Status, Topic, User, and Utilities
[16:38] <andrex> @devoice
[16:39] <andrex> осталось базу из html в sqlite забабахать
[20:07] <rosner> Здорова всем
[20:07] <Sergey_IT> и тебе
[20:08] <rosner> рад всех видеть
[20:08] <rosner> Сегодня установил линукс минт
[20:08] <rosner> сказка
[20:09] <Sergey_IT> все сказки с страшилками
[20:09] <rosner> пока страшилок не нашел
[20:10] <Sergey_IT> чем дальше тем страшнее
[20:10] <rosner> все устроило и даже в восторге от этой системы
[20:13] <rosner> благодарен создателям
[20:13] <rosner> большое им спасибо
[20:14] <rosner> особенно тем людям ктороые работали с переводом
[20:17] <Sergey_IT> это хорошо, конечно, но я русским не пользуюсь
[20:18] <rosner> каждому свое
[20:18] <Sergey_IT> привычка
[20:19] <rosner> английский язык это язык больных людей, в 18 веке в европе чума была и цинга
[20:19] <rosner> и это сказалось на их языках
[20:19] <rosner> прозношения
[20:20] <rosner> Россию болезнь обошла стороной тогда
[20:21] <rosner> ксажелению нашь язык тоже извратили путем реформ наччиная с Кирила и Мефодия и до комунистов постоянно убирали буквы
[20:22] <rosner> в итоге Русский язык потяр образность
[20:22] <rosner> * потерял
[20:23] <rosner> но я не хочу о грустном
[20:25] <Sergey_IT> языки меняются непрерывно
[20:27] <Sergey_IT> знание 2-3 языков должно быть нормой
[20:29] <rosner> меняется, в худшую сторону
[20:30] <rosner> все урезается и сокращается
[20:30] <rosner> раньше небыло алфавита, была буквица от чего и букварь
[20:30] <Sergey_IT> ворчишь, как старик
[20:30] <rosner> возможно
[20:31] <rosner> но ничего не меняет
[20:31] <rosner> сути
[20:31] <Sergey_IT> азбука
[20:31] <rosner> да
[20:31] <rosner> вот ведь
[20:32] <rosner> ошибочка
[20:33] <rosner> в алфавите А в буквице Азмъ и это имеет значение как начало, исток, я, от, Божественное, а в алфовите просто А
[20:34] <rosner> и так все буквы в буквице имеют смысл
[20:34] <rosner> что приводит к образованию
[20:34] <rosner> а сейчас нет
[20:34] <rosner> сейчас алфавит
[20:35] <rosner> просто А
[20:38] <Sergey_IT> а я на учебниках видел название -азбука
[20:38] <Sergey_IT> а у тебя в голове алфавит )
[20:38] <rosner> ты там в нем что уччил ?
[20:38] <rosner> алфават
[20:39] <rosner> а не буквицу
[20:39] <Sergey_IT> азбуку учил
[20:39] <rosner> в ней алфавит имеется если что
[20:40] <rosner> букварь ты не помнишь
[20:41] <Sergey_IT> А́збука (от аз и буки) — то же, что алфавит, чаще всего используется для обозначения кириллического алфавита
[20:41] <Sergey_IT> и букварь помню (учился по нему)
[20:42] <rosner> вот
[20:43] <Sergey_IT> что, вот?
[20:43] <rosner> учился ты
[20:43] <rosner> по нему
[20:43] <Sergey_IT> все течет, все изменяется
[20:43] <rosner> неспорит никто
[20:44] <rosner> я про то что касаемо языка то это в худшую сторону
[20:44] <rosner> урезание приводит его к потере глубинного смысла
[20:44] <Sergey_IT> для кого в худшую? Кто это определяет?
[20:44] <rosner> для меня
[20:45] <rosner> не переживай я тебе ничего не навязывал высказал свою точку зрения не более того
[20:45] <rosner> у тебя есть своя точка
[20:45] <rosner> и тебе с ней жить
[20:45] <Sergey_IT> я и не переживаю )
[20:46] <rosner> зачем спросил тогда
[20:46] <rosner> для кого в худшую
[20:46] <Sergey_IT> вот использование мата везде - это плохо
[20:46] <rosner> да
[20:47] <rosner> такие слова несут всебе отрицательную энергию кторая наносит вред и тому кто сказал это
[20:48] <Sergey_IT> а спросил про "худшую" - это в историческом плане неизвестно
[20:48] <Sergey_IT> Ломоносова почитай и Пушкина - разные языки
[20:48] <rosner> кто когда жил ?
[20:48] <rosner> время
[20:48] <rosner> разное
[20:51] <Sergey_IT> не очень < 100 лет. А от нас до Пушкина - 200, а язык меньше изменился
[20:51] <rosner> комунисты одни только сколько выкинули букв посмотри
[20:52] <rosner> Петр 1
[20:52] <rosner> выкинул
[20:52] <rosner> пошукай в инете тему эту сам увидешь историю реформы
[20:53] <Sergey_IT> буквы - это еще не язык
[20:53] <rosner> Сергей, я тут первый день ты бы не помог разобраться
[20:53] <rosner> ну здрасте
[20:53] <rosner> буква это основа основ
[20:54] <Sergey_IT> "сначала было слово"
[20:54] <rosner> Азъ
[20:54] <rosner> это
[20:54] <rosner> Было
[20:55] <rosner> Глаголъ
[20:55] <rosner> хотя нет
[20:55] <rosner> не глаголъ
[20:55] <rosner> село
[20:55] <rosner> вроде
[20:56] <Sergey_IT> я вот читал книги 17в. И понимал, а там гласных нет
[20:56] <rosner> надо смотреть
[20:56] <rosner> там их намного больше даже
[20:56] <Sergey_IT> где?
[20:57] <rosner> Сегдей тема долгая да и сам бы все посмотрел сейчас инфы много ты бы помог мне разобраться
[20:57] <rosner> с прогой этой
[20:57] <rosner> где в настройках сделать оповещения сообщений ?
[20:58] <rosner> а то я не слышу когда приходят сообщения а я не могу постоянно смотреть в чат
[20:59] <rosner> я занят сейчас немного
[20:59] <rosner> не вкурсе как настроить ?
[21:00] <rosner> все, все разобрался
[21:00] <rosner> отбой тогда
[21:00] <Sergey_IT> у меня звук отключен
[21:00] <rosner> я включил
[21:01] <rosner> все нормально
[22:47] <rosner> Привет всем
[22:47] <rosner> не пойму как сохранять настройки видео карты
[22:49] <rosner> ниже написано сохранить я нажимаю открываеться окно и выбор куда сохранить я сохранял но после перезагрузки системы все слетает
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2024-05-13T22:11:15.144646
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[20:10] <cjwatson> wgrant: mind if I pick up the "separate services for turnip frontend/virt/storage daemons" task from you? I was going to start on cleaning up our logging tomorrow morning, but that's going to be easier if I first separate out all the services and sort out the whole twisted logging malarkey
[20:23] <wgrant> cjwatson: oh sure
[20:28] <cjwatson> ok, grabbed
[22:59] <cjwatson> wgrant: I seem to remember you had some thoughts on adding a request id to turnip so that we could track log messages associated with failures sensibly. Did you have any thoughts on how to do that in a useful way now that the services are separated?
[23:02] <cjwatson> It would be nice not to have to extend all the various protocols involved to put a request ID at the front, but I suppose it's possible ...
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-it
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[04:55] <Innerina> Sto dalla sessione Mate ma non riesco a ripristinarlo perché settando Compiz da Mate Tweak mi ha preso Unity!!! E non mi trova più la roba di Mate, come lancio Mate Tweak?!
[04:56] <Innerina> Mi trova solo il terminale di Mate!
[07:19] <akis24> giorno
[07:36] <Dany__> !chat
[07:36] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[07:37] <Dany__> join #ubuntu-it-chat
[07:47] <partenopeo> mi potete dire come posso installare ubuntu da terminale ?
[07:47] <partenopeo> scusate chrome da terminale
[07:48] <partenopeo> installare un programma da terminale
[07:49] <akis24> partenopeo: chrome non è presente nei repo ufficiali devi scaricare la versione adatta . deb
[07:50] <partenopeo> si ma lo trove nel software center ma però non riesco a installare
[07:50] <partenopeo> allroa lo volevo installare da terminale
[07:50] <partenopeo> stranamente ogni volta che tento di installare il software mi dice o riparare o mi dice ok
[07:51] <partenopeo> allora ho pensato di installare il pacchetto da terminale
[07:51] <akis24> partenopeo: intendi chromium o chrome ?
[07:52] <partenopeo> chromium
[07:52] <akis24> partenopeo: versione di ubuntu ?
[07:52] <partenopeo> si
[07:52] <akis24> partenopeo: che versione usi di ubuntu ?
[07:52] <partenopeo> 14 lts
[07:53] <akis24> partenopeo: apri il terminale e dai sudo apt-get update e metti tutto su paste ..
[07:53] <akis24> !paste | partenopeo
[07:53] <ubot-it> partenopeo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[07:56] <partenopeo> scusa ma quale testo devo incollare?
[07:57] <akis24> partenopeo: fai copia e incolla di quello che hai sul terminale sulla pagina indicata ... incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[08:00] <partenopeo> questo e il messaggio che arriva :L'azione potrebbe richiedere l'installazione di pacchetti da sorgenti non autenticate.
[08:02] <akis24> partenopeo: devi farmi vedere quello che hai sul terminale... selezionalo col mouse e incollalo al link che ti ho indicato " http://paste.ubuntu.com/ " metti il tuo nick e poi premi paste si aprira' una pagina col risultato copi l'indirizzo e e lo metti qui in canale ...
[08:25] <Dany__> Buongiorno, chiedo aiuto
[08:27] <Dany__> ho installato ubunto su pendrive, da ieri che cerco di settare lingua, tastiera e orario in italiano, ma al riavvio tutto torna normalmente
[08:31] <pietroalbini> Dany__, nel senso, hai creato una live usb?
[08:31] <Dany__> si
[08:31] <pietroalbini> Dany__, allora è perfettamente normale :)
[08:31] <Dany__> immaginavo
[08:31] <Dany__> volevo imparare a conoscere linux, prima di installarlo al pc
[08:32] <Dany__> ma senza poter installare nulla ufff
[08:32] <pietroalbini> Dany__, le live usb caricano tutte le modifiche che fai nella ram, ed essendo la ram non persistente quando spegni il computer tutte le modifiche che hai fatto scompaiono
[08:32] <Dany__> considerando che la lingua italiana non l-ha mai salvata
[08:32] <Dany__> scaricata perfettamente ma non va
[08:33] <Dany__> pietroalbini: quindi per conoscere a fondo il software devo per forza insallarlo nel pc?
[08:33] <pietroalbini> Dany__, si :)
[08:34] <pietroalbini> Dany__, l'obiettivo delle live usb non è di fornire un sistema usabile tutti i giorni, ma uno strumento che permette di vedere se non ci sono incompatibilità, installare e risolvere eventuali problemi ad un'installazione
[08:34] <Dany__> capito
[08:35] <pietroalbini> (tipo se fai qualche casino e ubuntu non si avvia più)
[08:35] <pietroalbini> :)
[08:35] <Dany__> ok
[08:35] <Dany__> grazie
[08:35] <pietroalbini> np
[09:06] <b00k3r_> giorno
[09:12] <b00k3r> giorno
[09:24] <bip> Ciao a tutti :)
[09:41] <Piecogne> Salve a tutti, ho un problema: ho un toshiba c50-a-15e, e vorrei installare ubuntu. premetto già che questo pc ha uefi. ho gia installato il sistema operativo sia su chiavetta che su pc, ho modifcato la sequenza di accensione dando priorità ai cd, ho quindi disattivato il secureboot e il fastboot, ma quando riavvio il pc con il disco all'interno, n
[09:41] <Piecogne> on si avvia il programma di installazione ubuntu..... qualcuno sa darmi una mano??
[09:46] <Piecogne> scusate c'è qualcuno?
[09:47] <Tdk200> Salve ho un'urgente bisogno di aiuto. Ho lasciato il mio pc lubuntu connesso alla rete internet per tutta la notte, stavo scaricando dei file tramite il programma torrent del sistema. Questa mattina controllo il pc è mi segnala spazio sul dispostivo esaurito.
[09:47] <Tdk200> io avevo 77 gb liberi sull'hd
[09:48] <Tdk200> ma adesso risulta tutto occupato
[09:48] <Piecogne> sto facendo domande anche io, quindi non so aiutarti...
[09:48] <Piecogne> nel caso tu hai un idea per risolvere il mio problema?
[09:48] <cristian_c> Piecogne, sei l'utente di ieri
[09:49] <Tdk200> con questo problema non mi fa aprire firefox e da firefox cosa ancor più grave sono spariti tutti i siti preferiti le navigazioni effettuate con annessi segnalibri
[09:49] <cristian_c> Piecogne, hai utilizzato un masterizzatore
[09:49] <Tdk200> Come faccio a capire cosa sta usando i miei 77 gb liberi?
[09:49] <cristian_c> Piecogne, in ogni caso non chiedere se c'è qualcuno
[09:49] <Piecogne> no, ieri ero fuori dall'italia in vacanza....
[09:49] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | Piecogne
[09:49] <ubot-it> Piecogne: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[09:49] <Piecogne> ok
[09:49] <cristian_c> Piecogne, eddai
[09:50] <Piecogne> comunque si, ho utilizzato imgburner
[09:50] <Tdk200> cristian potresti aiutarmi con questo grave problema che ho???
[09:50] <f843d0> Tdk200: sicuro di avere liberi i 77 Gb? Apri un terminale con Ctrl+Alt+T e usa il comando df -H per vedere lo stato di occupazione delle partizioni di sistema
[09:50] <cristian_c> Tdk200, devi liberarlo
[09:51] <Tdk200> cristian_c: io lo vedo da gestore disco mi dice che è tutto occupato
[09:51] <Tdk200> ma non so cosa ha occupato tutto questo spazio
[09:52] <cristian_c> Tdk200, forse ciò che hai scaricato via torrent?
[09:52] <Tdk200> poi il mio firefox è impazzito
[09:52] <Piecogne> ma che file hai scaricato?
[09:52] <Tdk200> cristian_c: ma era roba da 1/2 gb
[09:52] <Tdk200> nn 77
[09:52] <cristian_c> Tdk200, riesci ad aprire un terminale?
[09:53] <cristian_c> Piecogne, quindi è un masterizzatore esterno?
[09:53] <cristian_c> usb
[09:53] <Tdk200> cristian_c: aspè facciamo così risolviamo una cosa alla volta. Potresti dirmi come faccio a recuperare tutti i miei siti che avevo salvati in firefox??
[09:53] <Tdk200> per me è importantissimo recuperarli
[09:53] <Piecogne> in che senso masterizzatore esterno?
[09:53] <cristian_c> Tdk200, nel file history
[09:53] <Tdk200> dovrei risalire in qualche cartella
[09:53] <cristian_c> anzi, scusa, bookmarks.html
[09:53] <Tdk200> nel sistema
[09:54] <cristian_c> Piecogne, se non sbaglio il c-50 non ha masterizzatore
[09:54] <cristian_c> è un netbook
[09:54] <Tdk200> perchè da firefox tutto è assurdamente sparito tutto
[09:54] <Piecogne> ha il lettore per cd/dvd
[09:54] <Piecogne> si trova sulla sinistra
[09:54] <Tdk200> sono in preda ad una crisi di nervi avevo diversi siti importanti da controllare
[09:55] <Piecogne> mi dispiace, anche io sono in crisi...
[09:55] <cristian_c> Tdk200, ls .mozilla/firefox/*.default
[09:55] <f843d0> Tdk200: sicuro che il sistema ha concesso al tuo utente usuale di avviare la sessione? Hai controllato l'output del comando whoami?
[09:55] <Piecogne> oggi è tutta la mattina che sto dietro a questa cosa e non ci riesco
[09:55] <cristian_c> f843d0, ottima domanda
[09:56] <Tdk200> ho effettuato l'accesso con il mio nome utente e psw
Salve a tutti, ho un problema: ho un toshiba c50-a-15e, e vorrei installare ubuntu. premetto già che questo pc ha uefi. ho gia installato il sistema operativo sia su chiavetta che su pc, ho modifcato la sequenza di accensione dando priorità ai cd, ho quindi disattivato il secureboot e il fastboot, ma quando riavvio il pc con il disco all'interno, n
on si avvia il programma di installazione ubuntu..... qualcuno sa darmi una mano??
[09:56] <f843d0> Ok, allora forse Firefox e` in crisi perche` non potra` fare uso dei file temporanei
[09:57] <cristian_c> Piecogne, se tu spiegassi, cosa appare, quando riavvii il pc...
[09:57] <Tdk200> è possibile che sia stato vittima di un attacco e che mi abbiano cancellato tutto?
[09:57] <cristian_c> Piecogne, in sequenza
[09:57] <Piecogne> ok, ora ti spiego
[09:57] <Tdk200> e riempito lhd
[09:57] <cristian_c> Tdk200, per favore, digita il comando indicato
[09:57] <cristian_c> Piecogne, dettagliatamente
[09:57] <Tdk200> fatto sono io mi dice
[09:58] <cristian_c> !paste | Tdk200
[09:58] <ubot-it> Tdk200: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:58] <Piecogne> appare la scritta TOSHIBA LEADING INNOVATION, poi per un attimo c'è una schermata tutta nera, ma è normale, e poi si apre la pagina dove inserire la password per entrare in windows
[09:59] <cristian_c> ok
[09:59] <Tdk200> cristian_c: cosa incollo il fatto che mi dice che sono io l'utente
[09:59] <Piecogne> comunque ti ringrazio per la pazienza
Tdk200, ls .mozilla/firefox/*.default
[09:59] <cristian_c> non mi pare tu l'abbia digitato
[09:59] <Tdk200> no nn devo resettarlo mozzilla devo recuperare i miei segnalibri
[10:00] <Tdk200> mi potresti dire dove posso trovarli nelle cartelle in ubuntu
[10:01] <cristian_c> Piecogne, ok, trovato qualcosa
[10:01] <cristian_c> Piecogne, per il tuo portatile
[10:01] <cristian_c> Tdk200, che c'entra con il comando?
[10:01] <Piecogne> ti ascolto
[10:01] <cristian_c> Tdk200, non stai seguendo
[10:02] <cristian_c> Tdk200, puoi per piacere digitare il comando?
[10:02] <Tdk200> ciaoooo
[10:02] <cristian_c> Piecogne, in pratica devi provare F12
[10:02] <cristian_c> Piecogne, all'avvio del pc
[10:02] <cristian_c> dopo la schermata del logo
[10:02] <Piecogne> si?
[10:02] <cristian_c> e accedi al boot menu, in cui selezionare la periferica da cui bootare
[10:03] <Piecogne> ok
[10:03] <cristian_c> ora non so se devi riattivare secure boot e compagnia bella
[10:03] <cristian_c> Piecogne, ma tu prova le varie modalità
[10:03] <Piecogne> la sequenza che è impostata al momento è dvd
[10:03] <cristian_c> Piecogne, comunque, il fastboot effettivamente andrebbe disattivato, penso
[10:03] <Piecogne> e poi il resto
[10:03] <cristian_c> per via del fatto che windows è ibernato con fastboot attivo
[10:04] <Piecogne> il fast book è disattivato
[10:04] <cristian_c> Piecogne, intanto fai questo
[10:04] <cristian_c> fare in modo che inizi il boot da usb o dvd
[10:04] <cristian_c> poi il resto si vede
[10:04] <cristian_c> Piecogne, da quale pc stai chattando?
[10:04] <Piecogne> da un fisso
[10:04] <Piecogne> e intanto opero sul portatile
[10:05] <Piecogne> comunque la sequenza è già impostata come dici tu
[10:05] <cristian_c> Piecogne, ok, quindi puoi operare sul portatile mentre stai chattando dal fisso?
[10:05] <Piecogne> esatto
[10:06] <cristian_c> allora prova
appare la scritta TOSHIBA LEADING INNOVATION, poi per un attimo c'è una schermata tutta nera, ma è normale, e poi si apre la pagina dove inserire la password per entrare in windows
[10:07] <cristian_c> praticamente, premi F12 durante la schermata nera
[10:07] <cristian_c> ossessivamente :D
[10:07] <Piecogne> ok
[10:07] <Piecogne> ho finito adesso, ma non succede nulla
[10:08] <Piecogne> non è cambiato nulla da priima
[10:08] <cristian_c> Piecogne, cos'hai fatto?
[10:08] <cristian_c> Piecogne, il file .iso è a 32 o a 64 bit?
[10:08] <cristian_c> Piecogne, puoi postare schermate del bios?
[10:09] <Piecogne> 64 bit
[10:09] <Piecogne> comunque sono entrato nel bios, e ho modificato la sessione di avvio nel menu boot
[10:10] <Piecogne> dando priorità ai cd
[10:10] <Piecogne> poi ho salvato premendo f10 e sono uscito
[10:10] <cristian_c> Piecogne, puoi postare una schermata del logo?
[10:10] <cristian_c> potrebbe aiutare molto
[10:11] <cristian_c> inoltre, la documentazione toshiba aiuta su questo, eh
[10:11] <cristian_c> Piecogne, prova a premere F12 sulla schermata del logo toshiba
[10:12] <cristian_c> poi ci sono tasti di scelta rapida, C e U , rispettivamente per il cd e l'usb
[10:13] <Piecogne> ok mi stacco un atimo che mi hanno chiamato e poi torno
[10:13] <Piecogne> grazie comunque
[11:05] <tdk200> cristian_c: scusami se sono scappato ma nn volevo impostare a defaut firefox
[11:05] <cristian_c> tdk200, io non ho capito perché non digiti il comando, considerato che è innocuo
[11:05] <tdk200> comunque cosa alquanto strana, stavo cercando di salvare il salvabile dall'hd e stavo pensando di formattare
[11:05] <cristian_c> !comandi | tdk200
[11:05] <ubot-it> tdk200: trovi i comandi base su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/ComandiBase - Gestione di File e Directory: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/ComandiBase#gestionefiledirectory - Terminale e File Manager: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/RigaDiComando
[11:06] <tdk200> dopo un pò che spostavo i file, ha riaggiornato lo stato dell'hd e mi è uscito spazio libero 80 gb :S
[11:06] <tdk200> secondo te come cosa è strana???
[11:06] <cristian_c> tdk200, se non spieghi esattamente cos'hai fatto...
[11:07] <tdk200> ti spiego
[11:07] <cristian_c> tdk200, e considerato che non hai voluto digitare il comando, che avrebbe fornito informazioni in merito
[11:07] <cristian_c> anzi, il comando giusto è: df -h
[11:08] <tdk200> Ieri ho lasciato il pc a scaricare con transmission, tutta la notte. Stamani sono andato al pc e mi diceva HD pieno :O io sono rimasto intontito ho provato ad avviare firefox e sembrava resettato
[11:08] <tdk200> mi sono quindi messo l'anima in pace pensando dovessi formattare tutto, ho preso hd esterno ed ho iniziato a spostare file
[11:09] <cristian_c> tdk200, bastava che per i segnalibri tu cercassi dove ho indicato
[11:10] <cristian_c> c'è anche du -H come comando
[11:10] <tdk200> dopo poco che spostavo i file, nella barra di stato della cartella mi ha visualizzato spazio disponibile che prima segnava 0 a 88 gb liberi
[11:10] <cristian_c> ma elenca l'utilizzo su disco di ogni singolo file
[11:10] <tdk200> :S
[11:11] <cristian_c> ergo, va impostata la sintassi del comando du
[11:11] <tdk200> può darsi che l'hd era andato in standby Può essere??
[11:11] <tdk200> cristian_c: mi stai leggendo?
[11:11] <cristian_c> tdk200, se non controlli l'utilizzo del disco...
[11:11] <tdk200> come faccio a controllarlo?
[11:11] <cristian_c> tdk200, se avessi letto quanto scrivevo sopra...
[11:12] <tdk200> si ma mandare il tuo comando nn serve adesso che si è ripreso :S
[11:13] <cristian_c> tdk200, non hai fornito informazioni adeguate al momento
[11:13] <tdk200> cristian_c: sembri un robot :D
[11:32] <cristian_c> tdk200, dovesse ricapitarti, torna qui e fornisci le informazioni richieste
[11:32] <cristian_c> in modo da poter capire esattamente cos'hai fatto
[11:56] <tdk200> OK cristian_c credo comunque che l'hd sia andato in una strana forma di standby e che l'hd si sia un pò rincoglionito nella notte, ed il sistema operativo segnalava hd full
[12:22] <sauro> ciao a tutti
[12:22] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[12:29] <sauro> ho appena aggiornato il mio sistema a 15.04 e tutto è andato apparentemente bene. Al riavvio, dopo qualche minuto di lavoro, mi è apparso un messaggio che mi ha avvertito di avere la / (su partizione dedicata) piena. Dopo le verifiche del caso, ho trovato la /var/lib/apt/lists/partial occupata da 18 gb di files compressi. ho spostato la carte
[12:29] <sauro> lla in questione fuori dalla partizione / ed al riavvio sembra tutto ok. E' normale questo comportamento? Grazie.
[12:34] <jester-> sauro: se le cache sono piene si svuota puare apt
[12:34] <jester-> pure
[12:38] <sauro> jester : ciao jester, puoi spiegarmi meglio. è la prima volta che mi capita questo problema ad un aggiornamento di versione e vorrei capire cosa è successo.
[12:39] <jester-> sauro: sudo apt-get clean
[12:40] <jester-> sauro: sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:40] <whoodie> Salve a tutti, ho installato Xubuntu 14.04 e purtroppo ho un problema: quando cerco di effettuare l'upload di immagini su qualsiasi sito (Tinypic, Postimage, Facebook, ecc.) e cerco la foto con l'opzione cerca, scrivendo il nome non mi da nessun risultato!
[12:41] <whoodie> Il problema persiste anche su Google Chrome e Chromium, secondo voi da cosa è dovuto? Grazie
[12:43] <sauro> jester: ma perchè la cache si è riempita fino a satutare la partizione / ?
[12:44] <sauro> "saturare"
[12:45] <jester-> sauro: perchè se ogni tanto non la svuoti si simmano i .deb sdcaricati da apt
[12:46] <jester-> come se non dai ogni tanto autoremove
[12:46] <jester-> rimane roba zompbi e 127 kernel
[12:48] <davegarath> sauro: se hai aggiornato la distro da una versione all 'altra è normale perché hai aggiornato praticamente tutti i packages che sono rimasti in cache
[12:48] <sauro> jester: è strano, perchè pulisco abbastanza spesso il sistema con ubuntu tweak e di kernel tengo solo la versione precedente a quella in uso (per sicurezza).
[12:49] <cristian_c> whoodie, sulla dash?
[12:49] <cristian_c> whoodie, dove hai eseguito la ricerca dalla dash?
[12:54] <sauro> davegarath: si, ho aggiornato da 14.10 , ma hai precedenti avanzamenti non avevo mai notato questo comportamento.
[12:55] <jester-> sauro: lasa sta il tweak
[12:55] <davegarath> sauro: se non hai mai lanciato un sudo apt-get clean si saranno accumulati molti paccketti
[12:55] <jester-> !pulireubuntu | sauro
[12:56] <ubot-it> sauro: pulire ubuntu is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/PulireUbuntu
[12:57] <whoodie> cristian quando effettuo l'upload si apre una finestra (non so ben cosa sia) e se clicco su cerca e scrivo il nome della foto, non la trova (devo fare il percorso completo: Scrivania->Foto->nomefoto.png)
[13:05] <sauro> ok, grazie a tutti
[13:06] <dadexix86> sauro, è un problema noto dell'avanzamento coi server italiani. passa ai server internazionali (vedi in forum le ultime discussioni, non sei il solo ;) )
[13:07] <sauro> dadexix86 : ok, ne consigli qualcuno in particolare?
[13:08] <dadexix86> Sì, il "Server principale"
[13:09] <cristian_c> whoodie, puoi postare una schermata, quando esegui l'upload?
[13:09] <cristian_c> !image
[13:09] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[13:10] <jester-> sauro: server italia è sminchiato da tanto tempo, metti italia crazy che va bene
[13:12] <sauro> lester: in che senso "sminchiato" ho 5 macchine che si aggiornano da quel server......
[13:12] <sauro> "jester"
[13:13] <jester-> sauro: da sempre errori faendo lìapdate
[13:13] <jester-> update*
[13:14] <sauro> jeste: questo lo avevo notato (a volte non aggiorna in automantico), ma è affidabile come aggiornamenti?
[13:15] <sauro> "jester"
[13:15] <krabador> sauro, jester-
[13:15] <jester-> sauro: cambialo
[13:15] <jester-> altro-->italia-->crazysticass
[13:15] <sauro> jester: ok, fatto (almeno su questa macchina)
[13:16] <jester-> sauro: da sorgenti software
[13:23] <sauro> grazie a tutti, siete sempre molto utili. ora devo andare.
[13:23] <sauro> ciao
[13:39] <tdk200> cristian_c: ho scoperto dove sta il problema
[13:39] <wwig> ciao a tutti, se installo ubuntu su chiavetta usb (non live) tramite il mio pc desktop e poi uso la chiavetta da notebook cambia qualcosa?
[13:40] <krabador> wwig, se la pendrive è fatta correttamente, e non ci sono particolarità nel bios che deve lanciarla in boot, parte ovunque
[13:40] <wwig> semplice
[13:40] <tdk200> ho appena premuto su verifica disponibilita aggiornamenti da lubuntu e mi si blocca su una voce del repository
[13:40] <jester-> wwig: devi aver cura di installare grub dulla usb e poi. logicamente, fare boot da usb
[13:41] <wwig> grazie krabador e jester-
[13:41] <jester-> e installare mbr su usb prima di installare
[13:41] <tdk200> e continua a scaricare ad oltranza diversi GB di file ma nn so cosa sono
[13:41] <tdk200> jester-: ciao
[13:41] <cristian_c> tdk200, java?
[13:41] <tdk200> ti mando uno screen
[13:41] <jester-> wwig: di defualt installa grub sul primo disco rigido se poi non hai la usb connessa non parte una cippa
[13:41] <tdk200> la cosa è un pò assurda
[13:41] <krabador> wwig, puoi avere qualche problema con differenze hardware marcate
[13:42] <tdk200> !image
[13:42] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[13:42] <wwig> ho la live di kubuntu su usb e una pendrive vuota, inserisco la live e la pendrive vuota sul mio desktop, lancio l'installazione sulla pendrive come se fosse un hdd normale
[13:42] <wwig> partite dal presupposto che non ho altri harddisk
[13:42] <krabador> wwig, se hai intenzione di avere "una chiave per domarli tutti" in tasca, ci sono degli accorgimenti che dovresti applicare
[13:42] <wwig> solo usb live e pendrive vuota
[13:43] <wwig> cosa devo fare?
[13:44] <wwig> sto provando ad installare kubuntu su pendrive da usblive ma sta impiegando 6 ore....
[13:44] <tdk200> jester-: prima parlavo con cristian_c e volevo informarlo riguardo a questo problema che sembra essere una cosa un pò assurda. Ti spiego jester- cosa mi è successo stamani. Ieri sera ho lasciato il pc acceso a scaricare con transmission e stamani avevo tutto l'hd pieno.
[13:44] <tdk200> non riuscivo a capire cosa avesse riempito l'hd in questo modo. Cmq mi ero messo con l'anima in pace che dovevo formattare
[13:45] <tdk200> dopo poco che spostavo dati su un hd esterno, tutto di un colpo l'hd da 0 gb disponibili che avevo è passato ad 80 gb liberi
[13:45] <tdk200> https://imgur.com/XRUMoOD
[13:46] <tdk200> adesso ho verificato la disponibilità di aggiornamenti e il sistema su una di queste voci andava avanti ad oltranza a scaricare molti gb
[13:46] <tdk200> guarda la foto che ho postato jester- non capisco cosa possa essere
[13:47] <jester-> tdk200: cambia il server
[13:47] <wwig> krabador:cosa devo fare?
[13:47] <tdk200> come si fa jester-
[13:47] <tdk200> ?
[13:47] <jester-> tdk200: da sorgenti software
[13:48] <jester-> tdk200: o sudo software-properties-gtk
[13:48] <tdk200> https://imgur.com/km3fviW
[13:49] <tdk200> scelgo la voce sottostante?? Non badare al ppa quelli sono disattivati
[13:49] <jester-> tdk200: etichetta software per ubuntu
[13:49] <jester-> tdk200: ckick su server
[13:50] <tdk200> è selezionato server italia
[13:50] <jester-> altro
[13:50] <jester-> italia click su +
[13:50] <jester-> scegli crazy
[13:50] <tdk200> mirror crazynetwork?
[13:51] <jester-> eh
[13:51] <jester-> tdk200: avevi assai di ppa
[13:51] <jester-> veleno suggno
[13:51] <tdk200> sisi però nn mi hanno rovinato l'avanzamento, o per lo meno lo spero
[13:52] <tdk200> li ha cmq disabilitati in automatico
[13:52] <wwig> jester-: normale che impieghi tanto tempo per installarsi su usb?
[13:52] <tdk200> se alcune voci fa inattivo è normale??
[13:52] <jester-> wwig: usb è un collo di bottiglia
[13:53] <wwig> e possono volerci ore?
[13:53] <jester-> tdk200: avanzando distattiva i server non uffciali
[13:53] <jester-> ufficiali
[13:53] <wwig> incredibile, ora dopo circa 6 ore si sta velocizzando tutto
[13:54] <tdk200> capito io adesso ho premuto su verifica aggiornamenti ha fatto tutto come si deve e nn mi segnala nulla. Però con il casino che è successo stanotte, adesso all'avvio di lubuntu mi segnala un problema con il flash plugin ma nn so di che genere
[13:55] <whoodie> http://s12.postimg.org/7dm49k6vx/risorse1.png
[13:55] <whoodie> ecco l'immagine del mio problema (quando cerco di effettuare l'upload di foto su internet, cliccando su cerca e scrivendo il nome, non le trova!)
[13:56] <jester-> tdk200: camabiato il server sudo apt-get update e poi sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[13:56] <wwig> jester-: è possibile che impieghi 6 ore?
[13:57] <cristian_c> tdk200, in realtà, il download dei singoli pacchetti non è detto che avvenga in ordine sequenziale
[13:57] <jester-> wwig: sei ore sono un po tante
[13:57] <tdk200> capisco
[13:58] <cristian_c> ah, effettivamente avevi aggiunto dei ppa
[13:58] <cristian_c> allora sì
[13:58] <tdk200> cristian_c: cmq se leggi sopra ho scoperto il mio problema dei gb scaricati a go go dal sstema
[13:58] <wwig> jester-: infatti, comunque ora come per magia si sta svegliando
[13:58] <jester-> wwig: comunque il passaggi o dei dati e loro scrittura su usb è parecchio piu lenta che su hd
[13:58] <cristian_c> tdk200, ppa sono pericolosi
[13:58] <tdk200> lo faceva nel momento di ricercare aggiornamenti ma il problema nn è nei ppa che sono disattivati ma da quelli principali di lubuntu
[13:58] <cristian_c> tranne alcune limitate eccezioni
[13:59] <tdk200> Cmq volevo segnalare che la pag per accedere alla chat di supporto on line non funge
[13:59] <wwig> jester-: sì questo lo so, ma 6 ore mi sembrano uno sproposito, su questo notebook non c'è hard disk e lo userò da pendrive. Ci sono dei problemi?
[13:59] <cristian_c> tdk200, se aggiugi ppa, hai buone probabilità di rendere il sistema instabile
[13:59] <cristian_c> sopratutto durante gli avanzamenti
[13:59] <cristian_c> +n
[13:59] <tdk200> sono andato nella sezione supporto di ubutu e premendo su chat supporto non apre questa chat
[14:00] <jester-> tdk200: sei nella chat ubuntu adesso
[14:00] <tdk200> si ma da freenode
[14:00] <tdk200> non dalla pag ubuntu
[14:00] <dark0z> salve a tutti cè qualcuno che puo dedicarmi 2 minuti ? ho bisogno di aiuto su una installazione in dual boot
[14:00] <jester-> da
[14:01] <jester-> !qualcuno | dark0z
[14:01] <ubot-it> dark0z: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[14:01] <krabador> tdk200, /join #ubuntu-it-chat , cosa fa?
[14:02] <tdk200> :D no krabador scusami forse nn mi sono spiegato :D io dico da qua http://chat.ubuntu-it.org/
[14:02] <tdk200> se uno preme su supporto a me non apre nessuna web caht
[14:02] <tdk200> chat*
[14:03] <tdk200> è un disguido che volevo segnalare nn so se lo fa solo a me, io credo che nessuno possa accedervi da la
[14:03] <jester-> tdk200: sto provando e funza bnissimo
[14:03] <tdk200> :S
[14:03] <jester-> sono sticazzi
[14:03] <pietroalbini> tdk200, hai cliccato su "va bene" in basso per i cookie?
[14:03] <dark0z> domanda: ho installato in dual con le partizioni come si devono e ho scelto come destinazione del boot la partizione efi dove sta anche il boot loader di win .. il mio problema è che il pc è un asus eeebook e quanto pare ci sono incomprensioni nel senso che per far partire le cose ho bisogno del famosissimo file bootia32 nonostante l'architettura s
[14:03] <dark0z> ia a 64.. ho installato ubuntu e ovviamente il grub non parte in nessuna occasione .. temo che il problema sia proprio che le distro di ubuntu a 64 nn hanno il supporto a 32 ovviamente qualcuno puo aiutarmi ?
[14:03] <Gio2180> Buonasera.
[14:04] <tdk200> pietroalbini: saggio :D
[14:04] <pietroalbini> tdk200, funziona dopo?
[14:04] <cristian_c> dark0z, x205ta?
[14:04] <Gio2180> Ho croptato una chiavetta usb con veracrypt, ma adesso, quando la inserisco, non mi compare tra i dischi.
[14:04] <tdk200> yes nn si nota proprio la scritta cookie :D
[14:04] <krabador> "<tdk200> si ma da freenode
non dalla pag ubuntu"
[14:04] <cristian_c> dark0z, no privato
[14:04] <dark0z> ok scusa
[14:04] <dark0z> cmq si 205ta
[14:04] <tdk200> krabador: tutto risolto :D
[14:05] <cristian_c> dark0z, x205ta è un bordello su linux
[14:05] <dark0z> me ne sto accorgendo è un mese che cerco di installarlo
[14:05] <cristian_c> dovuto allo scarso supporto bay trail
[14:06] <pietroalbini> tdk200, ok, cerco di vedere cosa non va in quello script :)
[14:06] <cristian_c> dark0z, allora, c'è una discussione specifica su ubuntuforums
[14:06] <cristian_c> dark0z, dove hanno risolto la maggior parte dei problemi
[14:06] <cristian_c> tra cui anche quello del grub
[14:06] <krabador> tdk200, è un problema molto noto
[14:06] <krabador> si settiname
[14:06] <pietroalbini> krabador, il problema è che ci sono solo 24 ore ogni giorno :P
[14:06] <tdk200> pietroalbini: se ce la fate, ingrandite quella scritta che sta sotto sennò nn si vede :D
[14:07] <dark0z> temo di aver già provato tutto... :\
[14:07] <krabador> pietroalbini, ma 7 giorni in una settimana,ed il triplo in 3
[14:07] <pietroalbini> krabador, ma c'è anche scuola, e il mio stato di salute in questo momento non è il massimo
[14:08] <pietroalbini> (altrimenti sarei a pordenone :'(
[14:08] <krabador> pietroalbini, mi dispiace
[14:08] <krabador> pietroalbini, ti ci vuole una mano
[14:09] <pietroalbini> krabador, vuoi unirti al gruppo web?
[14:10] <cristian_c> dark0z, allora
[14:10] <cristian_c> dark0z, spiega il 'tutto' che hai già provato
[14:10] <dark0z> ho provato a cambiare ogni tipo di ISO mounter.. versioni di ubuntu e destinazione del boot durante l'installazione
[14:11] <dark0z> ho seguito varie guide ma data la mia nn profonda conoscenza non capisco alcuni passaggi e mi perdo ovviamente
[14:11] <cristian_c> dark0z, ma quella discussione l'avevi letta?
[14:12] <dark0z> quale scusami ?
[14:12] <cristian_c> dark0z, sì sì, capisco che non sia banale nel tuo specifico caso (quel pc)
[14:12] <cristian_c> quella su ubuntuforums, ora te la linko
[14:12] <dark0z> ok manda
[14:12] <cristian_c> dark0z, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254322
[14:13] <cristian_c> dark0z, però ti consiglio di aprire una discussione apposita o scrivere su Chiedi, se hai un account su uno dei due
[14:14] <jester-> dark0z: prova a dare sudo updatedb
[14:14] <dark0z> è molto casinoso da seguire effettivamente si aprii su chiedi un post ma 0 risposte per ora cmq questo post non lo avevo mai visto
[14:15] <cristian_c> dark0z, https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-14.10-install-asus-x205ta.md
[14:15] <dark0z> jester per intenderci dalla live e basta possso fare comandi di terminale >.<
[14:16] <dark0z> uu questa sembra fatta apposta per i newbie come me
[14:16] <cristian_c> dark0z, sì github lo spiegano
[14:16] <cristian_c> *in
[14:16] <cristian_c> dark0z, ovviamente, solo la prima parte riguardante grub e il boot
[14:16] <cristian_c> per il resto devi seguire la discussione su ubuntuforum
[14:17] <cristian_c> sopratutto le ultime pagine che contengono varie soluzioni per il riconoscimento dell'hardware
[14:17] <dark0z> che casino wow vediamo un po
[14:17] <cristian_c> dark0z, ma cose come l'audio non funzioneranno ancora
[14:17] <cristian_c> visto che non hanno patchato il kernel
[14:17] <dark0z> a me basta che vada per il terminale ed altre cose base sono ad informatica il primo anno e sostanzialmente per ora mi serviva per c >.<
[14:19] <dark0z> lo so che sembra stupido volerci mettere ubuntu solo per quello ma se non mi abituo all'ambiente rischio di perdere qualcosa a prescindere da questi pareri personali probo a seguire la guida linkata cristian
[14:19] <dark0z> mi metto a lavoro
[14:20] <cristian_c> dark0z,
dark0z, però ti consiglio di aprire una discussione apposita o scrivere su Chiedi, se hai un account su uno dei due
[14:20] <dark0z> ok
[14:20] <cristian_c> dark0z, anche per lasciare traccia visibile di tutto il procedimento
[14:20] <cristian_c> per essere utile ad altri nella ricerca
[14:20] <dark0z> sicuramente
[14:21] <cristian_c> *sul forum
[14:21] <dark0z> intanto procedo nel mio caso mi segno i passi e poi creo un post =)
[14:21] <cristian_c> ok
[14:32] <akis24> sera
[14:32] <jester-> ola akis24
[14:33] <dark0z> la guida fa riferimento a una distro già installata ma se creo la flash come ho sempre fatto ? perkè non ho possibilità di installare distro da altre parti ..
[14:34] <cristian_c> dark0z, allora
[14:35] <cristian_c> dark0z, quel riferimento che leggi all'inizio
[14:35] <cristian_c> dark0z, significa che devi compilare il software da un altro pc con ubuntu
[14:35] <cristian_c> ti serve comunque una macchina in cui preparare l'occorrente
[14:35] <cristian_c> che non è quella di destinazione finale
[14:35] <dark0z> capisco
[14:36] <cristian_c> dark0z, al limite puoi pure usare una live su un altro pc
[14:36] <cristian_c> caso estremo
[14:36] <cristian_c> o forse anche una macchina virtuale
[14:36] <dark0z> per quanto riguarda invece la distro mi consigli di tenere la 14.04.2 ?
[14:36] <cristian_c> dark0z, di quale pc parli?
[14:37] <dark0z> entrambi sia da dove devo compilare quelle cose e quello che devo installare
[14:37] <cristian_c> dark0z, le risposte sono diverse
[14:37] <cristian_c> dark0z, la live o la vm possono essere qualsiasi, diciamo 14.10 o 15.04 vanno entrambe bene
[14:38] <cristian_c> dark0z, mentre sull'asus ti serve una macchina con l'ultima ubuntu, che non basta perché la 15.04 ha il kernel 3.10
[14:38] <cristian_c> *3.19
[14:38] <cristian_c> mentre per il riconoscimento di alcune parti dell'hardware ti serve il kernel 4.0
[14:39] <cristian_c> che comunque viene spiegato come installarlo
[14:39] <dark0z> ok
[14:39] <dark0z> quindi lavoro con 15.04 su entrambi così risparmio tempo di download >.<
[14:39] <cristian_c> dark0z, come preferisci, va bene come hai detto
[14:40] <dark0z> sperando che comandi o altre cose nn siano totalmente diverse rispetto alla guida ma da neofita non credo abbiamo fatto cambiamenti così radicali
[14:41] <cristian_c> dark0z, in pratica, la macchia ausiliaria con ubuntu ti serve per compilare grub
[14:41] <cristian_c> dark0z, in ogni caso, appunto chiedi qua o scrivi nel forum
[14:41] <cristian_c> per qualsiasi problema
[14:42] <dark0z> sisi ho visto monto una vm con 15.04 e seguo passo passo
[14:43] <dark0z> aspetto il download :p in ogni caso per ora ti ringrazio ! lascio irc aperto mentre lavoro così appena ho novità o domande posso farle live
[14:45] <cristian_c> ok
[14:47] <Vivio> Buonasera
[14:47] <jester-> !ciao | Vivio
[14:47] <ubot-it> Vivio: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[14:48] <Vivio> posso chiedere qui aiuto per il mio pc ubuntu?
[14:48] <jester-> !chiedi
[14:48] <ubot-it> per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[14:52] <Vivio> ok, ho appena installato ubuntu server 14.04.2 LTS e lagga tantissimo. Ping perfetto, speedtest ok, non sembrano esserci altri problemi di rete. E' un bug conosciuto? Fix? Grazie
[14:52] <Vivio> ssh lagga tantissimo*
[14:53] <jester-> Vivio: non mi risulta. sei da wifi eth rete locale o internet?
[14:53] <Vivio> eth
[14:53] <Vivio> locale
[14:53] <jester-> tanti pc in lan?
[14:54] <Vivio> in questo momento 1 in lan (ubuntu), un mac e due iPhone
[14:54] <Vivio> gli ultimi su wifi
[14:54] <jester-> mica poco
[14:54] <jester-> prova a disconnettere qualcosa
[14:55] <Vivio> ok, ma non ho mai avuto di questi problemi anche con più device connessi
[14:56] <jester-> Vivio: non so che altro dirti, bug non mi pare ce ne siano a proposito
[14:57] <Vivio> ok, controllo staccando tutto e lasciando solo ubuntu e il mac
[14:57] <wwig> jester-: puoi seguirmi nell'installazione un momento? ho un notebook senza hard disk, una live usb e una pendrive da 10GB
[14:57] <wwig> Come devo procedere?
[14:58] <jester-> wwig: installazione da dvd o altra usb
[14:58] <wwig> da live usb su pendrive USB
[14:58] <wwig> jester-:
[14:58] <cristian_c> wwig, sei già in live?
[14:58] <jester-> wwig: fai normale installazione, non avendo hd la piazzi su usb2
[14:59] <cristian_c> sì, è praticamente analoga all'installazione su hard disk, solo che cambia il supporto
[14:59] <wwig> jester-: quindi come un'installazione normale su hdd? perchè ad un certo punto mi dava un errore su sdc media
[14:59] <jester-> wwig: pari pari
[15:00] <jester-> sceglierai usa tutto il disco che nel tuo caso è la usb
[15:00] <cristian_c> wwig, se non posti una foto dell'errore, possiamo continuare a discutere all'infinito
[15:00] <wwig> jester-: invece volendo farla da pc destop, disinstallando tutti gli hard disk, poi posso utilizzarla sul notebook?
[15:01] <jester-> wwig: se il notebook è compatibile non c'è problema
[15:01] <Vivio> usando una usb il sistema rimane abbastanza fluido?
[15:01] <cristian_c> Vivio, eh, dipende
[15:01] <wwig> jester-: compatibile in quali termini?
[15:01] <cristian_c> usb più lenta
[15:02] <jester-> Vivio: rallenta parecchio
[15:02] <jester-> e dvd ancora di piu
[15:02] <Vivio> quello per forza, secondo me diventa inutilizzabile
[15:02] <Vivio> almeno con la GUI
[15:02] <cristian_c> dipende anche dal pc
[15:03] <jester-> dipende anche dal pc che hai, se vecchio e con usb1 lascia perdere
[15:03] <Vivio> forse con una 3.0 recupera, ma già la 2
[15:03] <cristian_c> jester-, eh
[15:07] <wwig> jester-: compatibile in quali termini?
[15:07] <cristian_c> wwig, questo lo verifichi da live
[15:08] <jester-> wwig: dal punto di vista harware wifi e palle varie
[15:17] <wwig> è stato un parto ma alla fine sembra funzionare
[15:19] <cristian_c> hai installato?
[15:27] <wwig> sì ma è ingestibile
[15:27] <wwig> troppo lenta
dipende anche dal pc
[15:28] <cristian_c> wwig, quale pc?
[15:29] <wwig> cristian_c: va benino come notebook, i requisiti sono ben al di sopra dei minimi
[15:29] <cristian_c> wwig, quali sono le caratteristiche?
[15:30] <wwig> cristian_c: te l'ho scritto sopra
[15:30] <wwig> il collo di bottiglia è questa USB che fa pietà
ciao a tutti, se installo ubuntu su chiavetta usb (non live) tramite il mio pc desktop e poi uso la chiavetta da notebook cambia qualcosa?
[15:31] <cristian_c> non le vedo
[15:32] <wwig> cristian_c: sono ben al di sopra delle minime richieste
[15:32] <cristian_c> cioè?
[15:35] <wwig> cristian_c: assemblo hardware da 15 anni, se ti dico che i requisiti minimi sono più che soddisfatti credici e morta lì :D
[15:35] <wwig> non ho voglia di farti l'elenco
[15:36] <cristian_c> wwig, bene, perché per capire se il problema è quello, e non è chiaro se si parli di ubuntu su usb o via live, servirebbero maggiori informazioni
[15:37] <wwig> la chiavetta è vecchiotta cristian_c
[15:37] <cristian_c> ok
[15:37] <cristian_c> wwig, quella da 16 GB?
[15:37] <wwig> 10
[15:38] <cristian_c> wwig, comunque, puoi verificare la velocità
[15:39] <cristian_c> tramite dd mandando la scrittura in /dev/null
[15:39] <cristian_c> c'è un comando apposito
[18:10] <dark0z> sapete come fare a far vedere le penne usb su una macchina virtuale con sopra linux montata con hypervisor ?
[18:33] <versilia> ciao. per utilizzare virtualbox dovrei usare i gruppi. cosa vuol dire?
[18:34] <versilia> c'è qualcuno?
[18:44] <cristian_c> dark0z, spiega
[18:44] <cristian_c> dark0z, se stai usando winz, non so bene quale programma tu stia utilizzando
[18:44] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | versilia
[18:44] <ubot-it> versilia: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[18:45] <cristian_c> versilia, ormai dovresti saperlo
[18:48] <dark0z> scusami cristian_c sto usando hyper visor quello di win 8
[18:49] <dark0z> ma ormai ho letto un sacco di thread ci sto rinunciando mi sto montando un pc momentaneo con rottami e reinstallo tutto li per fare la procedura che tu sai
[18:49] <cristian_c> dark0z, bastava virtualbox
[18:49] <cristian_c> lol
[18:50] <dark0z> ma mi prende anche lhd che ho gia modificato ?
[18:50] <cristian_c> facile e sicuro
[18:50] <dark0z> cioè me lo recupera ?
[18:50] <cristian_c> dark0z, ?
[18:50] <cristian_c> a cosa ti riferisci?
[18:50] <dark0z> dico le installazioni che ho fatto sull'hd virtuale sono recuperabili con virtualbox oppure no ?
[18:50] <cristian_c> non so se converte le macchine virtuali di hyper-v
[18:51] <cristian_c> dark0z, di certo con virtualbox non ci sono problemi
[18:51] <cristian_c> è a prova di niubbo
[18:51] <dark0z> ahah
[18:51] <cristian_c> lo utilizzo sempre
[18:51] <cristian_c> proprio perché è più semplice da utilizzare
[18:51] <dark0z> saperlo prima cavolo
[18:51] <dark0z> ho speso tutto il pomeriggio per niente
[18:52] <cristian_c> dark0z, potevi chiedere
[18:52] <dark0z> >.<
[18:52] <dark0z> vabbè vediamo sto scaricando virtual
[18:52] <cristian_c> dark0z, le usb le abiliti con l'extension pack
[18:53] <cristian_c> quindi scaricati anche l'extension pack per la tua versione di virtualbox
[18:53] <cristian_c> lo trovi sempre nella pagina di download di virtualbox
[18:54] <dark0z> ok messe a scaricare anche quelle grazie =)
[18:54] <cristian_c> l'extension pack lo installi o aprendolo con virtualbox, oppure dalla scheda estensioni nelle preferenze di virtualbox
[18:54] <dark0z> easy
[18:54] <dark0z> intanto mangio >.< mentre scarica
[18:56] <cristian_c> dark0z, in ogni caso, non è necessario masterizzare il file .iso su usb per lanciare la live in virtualbox
[18:57] <cristian_c> puoi direttamente caricarci il file .iso per installare ubuntu in macchina virtuale
[18:57] <dark0z> ps cmq sto lack di hyperv è clamoroso è come aver costruito una macchina che non puo solo mandare il motore in folle
[18:57] <dark0z> sisi
[18:57] <dark0z> come in hyper
[19:10] <versilia> cristian_c: l'extension è installata ho chiesto cosa sono i gruppi su ubuntu
[19:11] <cristian_c> versilia, non dicevo a te, ma a dark0z
[19:11] <versilia> cristian_c: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10901564/
[19:13] <cristian_c> versilia, http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permessi_%28Unix%29
[19:14] <cristian_c> versilia, sì, infatti, per impostare i filtri su usb, devi aggiungere il tuo utente al gruppo vboxusers
[19:14] <cristian_c> versilia, sempre che tu abbia fatto questo
[19:16] <cristian_c> versilia, comunque, per montare dispositivi in macchina virtuale non serve agire sui filtri
[19:19] <cristian_c> versilia, ah, ovviamente per i gruppi si intende quelli nel sistema host, non guest
[19:27] <krabador> versilia , non funziona a modino?
[20:01] <cristian_c> dark0z, fatto?
[20:02] <cristian_c> lol
[20:04] <dark0z> rieccomi cristian scusa
[20:05] <dark0z> hai letto cosa ho scritto ?
[20:05] <cristian_c> dark0z, non hai scritto
[20:12] <dark0z> rieccomi cristian ci sei ?
[20:13] <cristian_c> !chiedi | dark0z
[20:13] <ubot-it> dark0z: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[20:13] <dark0z> ciao senti ho installavo virtualbox ma non mi fa montare sistemi a 64 mi visualizza solo quelli a 32 sai darmi un tip a riguardo ?
[20:13] <dark0z> ovviamente posso montarli a 64 visto che con hypervisor l'ho fatto..
[20:14] <cristian_c> dark0z, hai la virtualizzazione attiva?
[20:14] <cristian_c> nelle opzioni bios del processore?
[20:14] <dark0z> dell'host ?
[20:14] <cristian_c> sì
[20:14] <dark0z> non ho mai controllato sinceramente
[20:14] <cristian_c> dark0z, processore inter, amd?
[20:14] <dark0z> intel
[20:15] <Carlin0> dark0z, impostazioni della macchina → sistema → processori → metti 2
[20:15] <cristian_c> Intel VT-x/Vanderpool
[20:15] <cristian_c> Se invece VirtualBox è eseguito su una macchina non dotata di virtualizzazione hardware, le prestazioni saranno nettamente inferiori a quelle della macchina reale. Inoltre non sarà possibile utilizzare sistemi guest a 64 bit.
[20:16] <cristian_c> Dopo aver verificato che il proprio pc supporti la virtualizzazione hardware, è necessario verificare se essa è regolarmente attivata.
[20:17] <cristian_c> All'interno del BIOS esistono varie denominazioni per questa funzionalità, in genere si trova indicata con i nomi VT-X, AMD-V, Intel Vanderpool, Virtualization Technology o similari.
[20:18] <dark0z> cristian non centra niente che con hyperv monto a 64 senza problemi ? magari è solo una cosa di virtualbox ?
[20:18] <cristian_c> dark0z, cosa intendi con 'monto'?
[20:19] <zaga> ciao a tutti
[20:20] <zaga> come faccio ad ottenere un id alto con mule adunanza?
[20:20] <Carlin0> !ciao | zaga
[20:20] <ubot-it> zaga: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[20:20] <cristian_c> !chat | zaga
[20:20] <ubot-it> zaga: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:20] <dark0z> scusami sono crashato cristian
[20:21] <zaga> vorrei sapere qualcosa di piu su mule su ubuntu 14.04.
[20:21] <cristian_c> zaga, ok, ma non chiederlo qui
[20:21] <dark0z> con montare intendevo che prima ho installato tranquillamente la 15.04 a 64 bit su una macchina virtuale fatta con hypervisor
[20:21] <Carlin0> zaga, leggi anche o scrivi solo ?
[20:21] <cristian_c> puoi benissimo domandare in -chat
[20:21] <cristian_c> dark0z, ora cosa ottieni?
[20:22] <zaga> uso amule su ubuntu mi pareva inerente ... credi ci sia un'irc anche per il mulo?
[20:22] <cristian_c> dark0z, hai controllato il bios?
[20:22] <dark0z> no non ho controllato nel bios
[20:22] <cristian_c> zaga, qui si parla di tematiche strettamente legate a ubuntu, come l'installazione
[20:22] <cristian_c> dark0z, il funzionamento specifico di emule è altra cosa
[20:22] <zaga> ok scusate offtopic allora.
[20:22] <zaga> sorry
[20:22] <cristian_c> indipendentemente dalla piattaforma sulla quale viene installato
[20:23] <cristian_c> zaga, tra l'altro ci sarà una documentazione ufficiale che potrai consultare
[20:23] <cristian_c> dark0z, hai creato la macchina virtuale, intanto?
[20:23] <dark0z> si ma a 32 bit
[20:23] <Carlin0> ma in linea di massima essendo fastweb una rete nettata non avrai mai id alto
[20:24] <cristian_c> dark0z, cosa ottieni nel menù?
[20:24] <Carlin0> nattata*
[20:24] <zaga> grazie ancora e cercherò un supporto specifico
[20:24] <dark0z> ma di virtual box cristian ?
[20:24] <Carlin0> !chat | zaga
[20:24] <ubot-it> zaga: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:26] <dark0z> non capisco a quale menu ti riferisci
[20:27] <cristian_c> zaga, /join #emule-italian su irc.emule.it
[20:27] <cristian_c> dark0z, sì
[20:27] <zaga> join #emule-italian su irc.emule.it
[20:27] <cristian_c> dark0z, quello di creazione della macchina virtuale
[20:27] <cristian_c> zaga, devi collegarti prima al server irc.emule.it e poi entrare nel canale #emule-italian
[20:28] <zaga> ok
[20:29] <versilia> cristian_c: ci sei?
[20:29] <versilia> scusa ma ero andato a mangiare
[20:30] <dark0z> si mi dice crea macchina virtuale
[20:30] <dark0z> poi mi chiede tipo
[20:30] <dark0z> e versione
[20:30] <dark0z> solo che nelle versioni ci sono solo modalità a 32 bit da selezionare
[20:30] <versilia> kr
[20:30] <dark0z> qualsiasi sia il tipo di sistema operativo che scelgo win o linux o altro
[20:31] <Carlin0> dark0z, metti altro
[20:31] <Carlin0> c'è la scelta altro no ?
[20:31] <dark0z> si
[20:31] <Carlin0> eh
[20:31] <dark0z> e poi uknow ?
[20:31] <dark0z> uknow
[20:31] <dark0z> unknow sorry
[20:31] <Carlin0> poi cosa vuoi tu ma l'importante dark0z ...
[20:31] <Carlin0> dark0z, impostazioni della macchina → sistema → processori → metti 2
[20:32] <cristian_c> dark0z, controlla nel bios, appunto
[20:32] <cristian_c> dark0z, e controlla anche quello che ti ha detto prima carlino
[20:32] <Carlin0> che di default ne mette uno solo
[20:32] <dark0z> si sto facendo il procedimento di carlin0 e vado a controllare le cpu
[20:33] <dark0z> intanto vi ringrazio per la pazienza
[20:35] <versilia> cristian_c: ma scusa cosa sono i grupppi in un sistema linux? come si modificano e dove si controllano?
[20:35] <versilia> ovviamentre cristian_c o qualcun altro
[20:36] <cristian_c> versilia, hai letto quel che scrissi prima?
[20:36] <versilia> si, e mi spiega cosa sono gli utenti e cosa servono ( per dare permessi diversi)
[20:37] <versilia> però cristian_c non mi dice su ubuntu come si modificano utenti e gruppi
[20:37] <cristian_c> versilia,
[20:37] <cristian_c> versilia, Utenti e gruppi
[20:37] <cristian_c> versilia, tra l'altro il messaggio ti indicava anche come farlo da terminale
[20:37] <cristian_c> quello che hai pastato
[20:38] <dark0z> ok scegliendo altro e sconosciuto nel sistema non mi fa aumentare l'uso a piu di 1 cpu
[20:39] <cristian_c> dark0z, ti consiglio di dare un'occhiata al bios
[20:39] <dark0z> ok
[20:39] <Carlin0> certo dark0z vi perdete in un bicchiere d'acqua
[20:39] <dark0z> cioè ?
[20:40] <Carlin0> non era difficile scegliere altro invece di dire : mi propone solo SO a 32 bit
[20:40] <dark0z> ... io lo avevo detto che mi propone solo so a 32 bit
[20:41] <cristian_c> dark0z, il pc è a 64 bit?
[20:41] <cristian_c> processore
[20:41] <dark0z> si
[20:41] <cristian_c> dark0z, che pc è?
[20:42] <dark0z> un asus n56v
[20:43] <dark0z> i7-3630qm 2.4 ghz
[20:43] <dark0z> sia il processore che il SO sono a 64
[20:44] <Carlin0> dark0z, http://i.imgur.com/z436Fb3.png
[20:45] <versilia> cristian_c: ma non succede nulla da terminale
[20:46] <cristian_c> versilia, non succede nulla nel senso?
[20:47] <versilia> cristian_c: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10902634/
[20:47] <dark0z> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/fqSurd8eQnCeGzWG6vyV
[20:47] <dark0z> questo è quello che posso vedere io carlin0
[20:47] <cristian_c> versilia, non è che il tuo utente si chiama simone e basta?
[20:47] <versilia> cristian_c: boh
[20:48] <Carlin0> dark0z, che virtualbox stai usando ? dove l'hai presa ?
[20:48] <cristian_c> versilia, whoami
[20:48] <versilia> cristian_c: yes
[20:48] <krabador> versilia, rimanda groups
[20:48] <dark0z> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[20:48] <dark0z> da qui
[20:48] <dark0z> la versione per windows
[20:48] <versilia> krabador: scusa?
[20:49] <cristian_c> versilia, nel senso, hai digitato: whoami?
[20:49] <versilia> cristian_c: si
[20:49] <Carlin0> dark0z, non uso win da anni
[20:49] <matadores> sapreste dirmi un programma per masterizzare o è predefinito su ubuntu?
[20:49] <Carlin0> quella che ti ho mostrato io è quella per linux
[20:49] <krabador> versilia, se digiti gropus e dai invio , vedi se hai aggiunto l'user al gruppo
[20:49] <krabador> matadores, sudo apt-get install brasero
[20:49] <cristian_c> versilia, risultato?
[20:50] <matadores> oggi non ho installato ma adesso lo installerò
[20:51] <dark0z> capisco in realtà mi serve solo per montare una versione di ubuntu per creare una versione di grub particolare per poter installare ubuntu su un eeebook seguendo una guida la cosa è molto complicata è da oggi che ci lavoro carlin0 scusa la mia ignoranza
[20:51] <Carlin0> dark0z, ma la vbox che hai installato è a 32 o 64 bit ?
[20:51] <matadores> krabador
[20:51] <versilia> cristian_c: krabador http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10902680/
[20:51] <dark0z> cè un installer solo che fa sia da 32 che da 64 ne cerco uno che fa solo da 64 indipendentemente dalla versione
[20:52] <cristian_c> Carlin0, giustissima domanda
[20:52] <cristian_c> non ci avevo pensato
[20:52] <Carlin0> dark0z, cerca di capire , non parlo del macchina virtuale ma del programma virtualbox
[20:53] <versilia> ehi
[20:53] <dark0z> il programma virtualbox ha un eseguibile solo da scaricare marcato come 32/64 non esistono 2 installer diversi per 32 o 64 carlin0
[20:53] <matadores> raga devo fa crea immagine disco?
[20:54] <krabador> versilia, gpasswd -a simone vboxusers
[20:54] <matadores> per mettere su dvd il sistema operativo kubuntu?
[20:54] <dark0z> e su informazioni non mi dice quale versione installa carlin0
[20:54] <krabador> matadores, fa una domanda precisa.
[20:54] <cristian_c> visto
[20:54] <versilia> krabador: mi da permesso negato come mai?
[20:54] <matadores> sto programma che mi hai detto non lo trovo
[20:55] <cristian_c> versilia, puoi aprire Utenti e gruppi?
[20:55] <krabador> versilia, sudo
[20:55] <matadores> ho dato il comando che mi hai detto e ha detto che lo tengo
[20:55] <matadores> ma non lo vedo
[20:55] <Carlin0> dark0z, si però adesso parliamoci chiaro : quasto problema riguarda win non centra una cippa con ubuntu eh
[20:55] <krabador> matadores, apri un terminale, digita sudo apt-get install brasero
[20:55] <krabador> matadores, ed avrai un programma per masterizzare
[20:56] <versilia> Aggiunta dell'utente simone al gruppo vboxusers evviva!!!!!!
[20:56] <krabador> sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[20:56] <Carlin0> versilia, devi reboootare adesso
[20:56] <krabador> e fa partire virtualbox
[20:56] <dark0z> mi serve per installare ubuntu tutto cio carlin0 ma se non vuoi aiutarmi non importa lasciami perdere
[20:56] <Carlin0> devi rebootare
[20:56] <versilia> Carlin0: tutto???
[20:57] <matadores> dici a me?
[20:57] <krabador> versilia, o riavvii, o mandi quello che ti ho detto
[20:57] <krabador> e provi a lanciare virtualbox
[20:57] <versilia> ho fatto, riavvio e riavvio virtual , ok ?
[20:57] <cristian_c> dark0z, in ogni caso, come detto, controlla il bios
[20:57] <matadores> l'ho trovato dinalmente
[20:57] <krabador> matadores, che ubuntu liscia o derivata?
[20:58] <dark0z> ok cristian_c sto provvedendo grazie
[20:58] <krabador> versilia, se mandi quello che ti ho detto puoi anche non riavviare
[20:58] <krabador> versilia, non mischiare le cose
[20:58] <versilia> krabador: allora non ho capito... cosa mando?
[20:58] <cristian_c> dark0z, sezione Advanced -> Intel Virtualization technology -> Enabled
[20:58] <krabador> versilia, <krabador> sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[20:58] <cristian_c> dark0z, http://i.stack.imgur.com/ttR1U.png
[20:59] <matadores> sempre stesso ubuntu io ma ieri ho scaricato kubuntu per il q1 ultra e non lo ho fatto oggi e procedo stasra all'istallazzione
[20:59] <dark0z> ok grazie vedo subito
[20:59] <krabador> matadores, e adesso stai quindi usando ubuntu e non derivata, giusto ?
[20:59] <matadores> no sul toshiba satellite meglio ubuntu che ho
[21:00] <matadores> 14.04.2 lts
[21:00] <krabador> matadores, allora clicca in alto a sinistra, l'icona, e inizia a scrivere brasero
[21:00] <krabador> comparirà tra le applicazioni
[21:00] <versilia> krabador: fatto ma non viene fuori nulla
[21:00] <matadores> trovato il programma
[21:00] <krabador> versilia, sudo modprobe non da risultati
[21:00] <versilia> no
[21:00] <krabador> non è una domanda.
[21:00] <versilia> ah oj
[21:00] <versilia> ok
[21:01] <krabador> carica adesso virtualbox
[21:01] <matadores> oddio non ricorda che devo selezionare immaggine per creare il dvd di istallazzione?
[21:01] <krabador> matadores, guarda , un mio amico, per fare un cd di mp3, seleziona gli mp3
[21:02] <Carlin0> copia/incolla
[21:02] <krabador> !iso | matadores
[21:02] <ubot-it> matadores: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[21:02] <matadores> scusate ma sto impallato perche mi sono rimasti 3 dvd e ho paura di sbagliare a selezionare
[21:04] <krabador> matadores, l'importante è che ti assicuri che la sessione di masterizzazione sia finalizzata, ovvero chiuda il dvd
[21:05] <matadores> ok iniziata masterizzazione fatto come dice guida seleziono la iso poi dico di fare
[21:06] <matadores> speriamo che questo q 1 ultra da morto torni mezzo morto
[21:08] <Carlin0> matadores, ma non dovevi metterci xubuntu ?
[21:08] <matadores> si quello sta masterizzando quello che mi avete detto ieri
[21:08] <krabador> matadores, l'importante è che tu stia masterizzando il file iso della versione piu' adatta
[21:09] <matadores> ieri mi avete detto ultima versione dixubuntu
[21:09] <krabador> matadores, per hardware datato xubuntu/lubuntu
[21:10] <krabador> se troppo vecchio lubuntu
[21:10] <Carlin0> si si ma tu prima hai scritto kubuntu e mi è sorto il dubbio
[21:10] <matadores> però ricordo che la versione del q1 ulta che ho già dalla fabrica usci con un gb di ram
sempre stesso ubuntu io ma ieri ho scaricato kubuntu per il q1 ultra e non lo ho fatto oggi e procedo stasra all'istallazzione
[21:11] <matadores> xubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.iso
[21:11] <matadores> ecco cosa ho scaricato notte scorsa
[21:12] <Carlin0> xubuntu va bene e vedrai che ti piacerà
[21:12] <matadores> importante e che funzioni
[21:12] <matadores> perchè mio figlio sapeva usarlo bene per vedere video
[21:13] <matadores> e mia moglie non si ricorda come si usa un pc
[21:13] <Carlin0> !chat | matadores
[21:13] <ubot-it> matadores: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[21:14] <matadores> quindi carlino e quel ragazzo che metto ignore?
[21:14] <matadores> o e un altro?
[21:14] <krabador> matadores, è cristian_c
[21:14] <cristian_c> -,-
[21:14] <cristian_c> matadores, non è questione di simpatia
[21:14] <cristian_c> matadores, semplicemente , stai divagando, in un canale di supporto
[21:21] <mean> salve
[21:22] <krabador> !ciao | mean
[21:22] <ubot-it> mean: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[21:22] <mean> io problemi con ubuntu mate
[21:23] <krabador> mean, poni la tua domanda
[21:23] <mean> no mi legge scheda video
[21:23] <mean> vi servono informazioni da terminale?
[21:23] <krabador> mean, apri un terminale
[21:23] <mean> aperto
[21:23] <mean> poi
[21:23] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:23] <krabador> sudo lshw -C video
[21:24] <krabador> il secondo darà un link
[21:24] <krabador> incollalo qui
[21:24] <krabador> sudo lshw -C video | pastebinit
[21:24] <krabador> questo
[21:24] <krabador> manda questo , al posto del secondo
[21:24] <mean> mi controllate il pc da remoto
[21:24] <mean> ??
[21:25] <Carlin0> mean, segui krabador
[21:25] <mean> E: Impossibile impostare il blocco /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:25] <mean> E: Impossibile acquisire il blocco sulla directory di amministrazione (/var/lib/dpkg/). Un altro processo potrebbe tenerla occupata.
[21:25] <matadores> passatemi per favore la scheda che parla del q1 ulta
[21:25] <dark0z> niente la intel virtualization tecnology è disabilitata su questa macchina cristian_c intanto ho già montato una macchina di supporto ormai faccio tutto li troppo casino per una macchina virtuale
[21:25] <krabador> mean, non si effettua qui servizio di remoto
[21:26] <krabador> mean, chiudi gestore di pacchetti , software center, se aperti
[21:26] <mean> dice questo
[21:26] <mean> ok capito
[21:26] <cristian_c> dark0z, eh, dovevi abilitarla prima
[21:26] <mean> chiuso
[21:26] <cristian_c> altrimenti niente 64 bit
[21:26] <cristian_c> in virtuale
[21:27] <krabador> rimanda i 2 comandi , sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:27] <krabador> e sudo lshw -C video | pastebinit
[21:28] <mean> lo sta caricando aspe n'attimo ok grazie ancora
[21:34] <mean> ho caricato ok ma cosi vedete ip??
[21:34] <krabador> mean, puoi mandare il secondo comando per favore?
[21:34] <krabador> serve soltanto a vedere che scheda video hai, con precisione
[21:34] <mean> l'ho mandato
[21:35] <Carlin0> pasta il link
[21:35] <krabador> mean, restituisce un link
[21:35] <krabador> che , come dettoti prima
[21:35] <krabador> devi
[21:35] <krabador> incollare
[21:35] <krabador> qui
[21:35] <mean> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo lshw -C video
[21:35] <mean> *-display
[21:35] <mean> description: VGA compatible controller
[21:35] <mean> product: RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4530/4570/545v]
[21:35] <mean> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[22:47] <matadores> !chat
[22:47] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-es
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[00:00] <cookie^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846904
[00:01] <cookie^> lee eso
[00:02] <depth> te agradesco, voy a darle un vistazo
[15:13] <tendroid> Para chipsets amlogic arm dual core ¿que distros de ubuntu hay disponibles?
[15:22] * tendroid is using a RT3069BT running Android 4.4.2 (KOT49H)
[16:01] <Miriam> hola
[16:01] <Knight80> Hola Miriam
[16:01] <Knight80> ¿A qué te refieres con que no sabes cómo utilizar Impress?
[16:01] <Miriam> necesito ayuda porque no se como usar openoffice impress
[16:02] <Miriam> es la primera vez que lo uso
[16:02] <Knight80> Miriam ¿Qué es lo que no sabes hacer con Impress?
[16:02] <Miriam> no se como se edita una diapositiva, por ejemplo
[16:03] <Miriam> puedo insertarlas y editar su diseño pero no como escribir el texto
[16:03] <Knight80> Miriam Por defecto tienes plantillas, haciendo doble click sobre el cuadro de texto, lo editas.
[16:04] <Knight80> En realidad es haciendo un simple click
[16:04] <Knight80> No doble
[16:04] <Knight80> :)
[16:04] <Knight80> Pero si quieres crear tu propio cuadro de texto, pulsa F2
[16:05] <Knight80> O bien haz click sobre la herramienta cuadro de texto de la parte inferior de la pantalla de Impress.
[16:06] <Knight80> Después traza un rectángulo o cuadrado para crear el cuadro de texto y escribe ahí.
[16:07] <Knight80> Miriam ¿Lo has conseguido?
[16:07] <Miriam> a ver, en mi pantalla aparecen las diferentes diapositivas y a cada una le he dado el diseño que he querido a parir de el panel tareas
[16:08] <Miriam> pero no consigo editarlas individualmente
[16:09] <Knight80> Pincha sobre una de ellas
[16:09] <Knight80> ¿Qué aparece?
[16:09] <Miriam> nada
[16:10] <Knight80> ¿No te aparece la diapositiva?
[16:10] <Miriam> se destaca con una cuadro azul alrededor pero no se abre
[16:11] <Knight80> Pincha con el botón derecho y elige "Diseño de diapositiva"
[16:11] <Miriam> vale
[16:11] <Miriam> se abre el panel de tareas
[16:12] <Knight80> ¿Ves unas pestañas que dicen "Normal", "Esquema", "Notas", "Folleto" ...etc?
[16:12] <Knight80> Pincha en Normal
[16:12] <Miriam> si
[16:12] <Miriam> Por fin !
[16:12] <Knight80> ¿Te aparece ahora?
[16:12] <Miriam> la diapositiva simplemente
[16:13] <Knight80> ¿Era eso lo que necesitabas?
[16:13] <Miriam> si
[16:13] <Knight80> ok
[16:13] <Miriam> antes a pesar de que le habia dado a normal varias veces me salian las diapositivas juntas
[16:14] <Knight80> extraño
[16:14] <Knight80> Prueba a abrir de nuevo el archivo y pinchar en Normal otra vez
[16:17] <Miriam> Esta vez si ha salido como queria
[16:17] <Knight80> Me alegro ;)
[16:17] <Miriam> probablemente toqué alguna pestaña que no debia y no sabia regresar
[16:17] <Knight80> Lo más seguro
[16:19] <Miriam> gracias por la ayuda
[16:19] <Miriam> :)
[16:19] <Knight80> De nada, un placer
[16:19] <Knight80> :)
[16:41] <maveri12> hola buenas,voy a instalar ubuntu pero me gustaría que me ayudarais con una duda que tengo. voy a instalarlo en un portatil con ssd, tengo entendido que usar brtfs o xfs es mejor que ext4 en ssd, cual deberia usar?
[16:41] <ivedci89> hola vieron gnome-disks que te dice "El disco esta correcto" ... bueno, me gustaria saber eso desde terminal, lo intenté con smartctl pero parece marcar errores:
[16:42] <ivedci89> !pastebin
[16:43] <ivedci89> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10899827/
[19:23] * merrick saluda.
[20:01] <successus> salud o/
[20:36] <aryklein> hello guys
[21:27] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato
[21:50] <demo> Buenaaas!
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-dk-moede
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[11:32] <Christian_Arvai> nå, jeg er ikke den eneste, der logger tidligt på, sikkert fordi at vi kender os selv, og ved at vi glemmer det på andre mpåder ;)
[13:51] <henning2> Christian_Arvai: Og så er det os som mere eller mindre altd er online - om man er ved computeren eller ej ;-)
[13:53] <sbc> Hej alle :)
[13:53] <buddig> hej
[13:53] <Zilvador> Hej folk :)
[13:53] <neglesaks> däv
[13:53] <Momsemor> Er kun med på sidelinien.... dårlig mave, så render til og fra :-(
[13:54] <neglesaks> tag den bærbare med på tønden?
[13:54] <Momsemor> Hi, hi.... ja, det var da en ide ;-)
[13:56] <Klaus_Rasmussen> momsemor til cykelløb
[13:56] <Zilvador> Åh nej. God bedring Jannie
[13:56] <Momsemor> Takker...
[13:56] <lars_t_h> god dag til alle
[13:57] <Klaus_Rasmussen> hej lath
[13:58] <Zilvador> Jeg hører, at det ikke regner så meget i Jylland, som det gør i Kbh lige nu.
[13:59] <sbc> Zilvador, Tørvejr nu i Odense, men det har regnet tidligere :)
[13:59] <Zilvador> Jeg håber, at vi også får lidt bedre vejr senere så :)
[13:59] <buddig> God bedring Jannie
[14:00] <Momsemor> Tak, Henning :-)
[14:00] <sbc> Zilvador, Skal du ikke alligevel side indenfor foran computeren og skrive referatet fra mødet rent senere? :P
[14:00] <sbc> så gør vejret vel ingen forskel :)
[14:00] <sbc> Nåh, klokkken er vist ved at være 16, så jeg tror godt vi kan sige velkommen til Generalforsamlingen i Foreningen af danske Ubuntubrugere.
[14:00] <Zilvador> Haha...tja, det kan du have ret i
[14:01] <sbc> Jeg tror vi er relativt få nok til at vi har tid til at lave en hurtig navne-runde før vi går i gang med dagsordenen. Jeg smidder også lige links til vedtægter, dagsorden osv. lige om lidt :)
[14:01] <sbc> ... men
[14:01] * sbc er Søren Caspersen, formand i foreningen, og bosidende i Odense :)
[14:01] <Christian_Arvai> christian arvai, holeby, admin i forum
[14:01] <Zilvador> Mit navn er Daniel Ejsing-Duun. Jeg er bestyrelsesmedlem, loco-kontakt og bor i København.
[14:02] <Momsemor> Jannie Udengaard, Hadsten, Medlem af Bestyrelsen
[14:02] <nicky> Nicky Thomassen, forum-admin
[14:02] * lars_t_h er pt bestyrelsesmedlem og genopstiller
[14:02] * neglesaks er Peter Perlsø, Lyngby på Djævleøen, fungerende Kasserer
[14:03] * wangerin er Henning fra Sønderborg - formand for AlsLUG.
[14:03] <buddig> Henning Buddig kommer i buntu Aarhus og på forumet
[14:03] <Klaus_Rasmussen> redaktør
[14:04] <Futte> er Flemming Jensen og er fra Brønderslev kanten
[14:05] <Blueeyez> Kenneth Rasmussen, Esbjerg, Ubuntu Esbjerg
[14:05] <sbc> Velkommen til alle sammen - hvis der er flere der har lyst til at sige hej, så kan de bare gøre det løbende.
[14:05] <sbc> Vi har en dagsorden:
[14:05] <sbc> 1. Valg af dirigent
[14:05] <sbc> 2. Valg af referent
[14:05] <sbc> 3. Valg af stemmetællere
[14:05] <sbc> 4. Formandens beretning
[14:05] <sbc> 5. Regnskabsaflæggelse
[14:05] <sbc> 6. Behandling af indkomne forslag
[14:05] <sbc> 7. Godkendelse af budget
[14:05] <sbc> 8. Valg af bestyrelse
[14:05] <sbc> * Valg af formand
[14:05] <sbc> * Valg af kasser
[14:05] <sbc> * Valg af 3 bestyrelsesmedlemmer og 2 suppleanter
[14:05] <sbc> * Valg af revisor (ikke bestyrelsesmedlem)
[14:05] <sbc> * Valg af LoCo kontakt
[14:05] <sbc> 9. Eventuelt
[14:05] <sbc> Den kan også findes her:
[14:06] <sbc> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-dk/943/detail/
[14:06] <sbc> Vedtægterne kan læses her:
[14:06] <sbc> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/soeren-b-c/UbuntuDK/master/vedt%C3%A6gter.md
[14:06] <sbc> og det er vist også det vi får brug for :)
[14:06] <sbc> Lad os starte med første punkt:
[14:06] <sbc> 1. Valg af dirigent
[14:06] * sbc stiller gerne op, men vil også gerne overlade tjansen til andre! :)
[14:06] <lars_t_h> +1
[14:06] <nicky> +1 for sbc :-)
[14:06] <Zilvador> Du skal være velkommen :)
[14:06] <Klaus_Rasmussen> +1
[14:06] <Futte> +1 for sbc
[14:07] <buddig> +1
[14:07] <sbc> Den snupper jeg.
[14:07] <wangerin> +1
[14:07] <Blueeyez> +1
[14:07] <sbc> Jeg skal starte med at beklage at de sidste ting med regnskab og budget blev udsendt så sent i går (og vist aldrig nåede frem til mail-listen), men jeg håber det går.
[14:07] <sbc> Næste punkt er:
[14:07] <sbc> 2. Valg af referent
[14:07] * sbc kigger sig omkring :)
[14:08] <Zilvador> Har du ikke allerede peget på mig? :p
[14:08] <sbc> Zilvador, Du er en helt hvis du gidder :)
[14:08] <lars_t_h> +1 for Zilvador hvis han vil
[14:08] <Klaus_Rasmussen> +1
[14:08] <Futte> +1
[14:08] <nicky> +1
[14:08] <Zilvador> Hehe...jeg skal nok, hvis der ikke er andre
[14:09] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[14:09] <buddig> +1
[14:09] <Blueeyez> +1
[14:09] <sbc> super!
[14:09] <sbc> 3. Valg af stemmetællere
[14:09] <sbc> Selvom vi stemmer i irc-kanalen skal vi iføgle vedtægterne vælge stemmetællere (i flertal). Nogen frivillige?
[14:10] <Zilvador> Gerne
[14:11] <Zilvador> Andre?
[14:11] <Zilvador> Alle, der kan tælle til ti, er kandidater :)
[14:12] <neglesaks> Jeg kan tælle til tre
[14:12] <Klaus_Rasmussen> +1
[14:12] <sbc> neglesaks, Jeg tror godt du kan magte lidt mere end tre. Vil du tælle stemmer lidt senere?
[14:12] <buddig> +1
[14:12] <neglesaks> Ja :)
[14:13] <Zilvador> Jeg håber lidt, at vores kasserer kan tælle ;)
[14:13] <sbc> så Zilvador og neglesaks tæller stemmer (sammen med os andre) :)
[14:13] <Klaus_Rasmussen> hehe
[14:13] <sbc> Næste punkt:
[14:13] <sbc> 4. Formandens beretning
[14:14] <sbc> Det har været et meget stille år for os. Vi har drevet Forum / hjemmeside, og der er gang i lokal-afdelingerne. Vi har stået for DVD rundsending, men vi har ikke haft store arrangementer på benene. Ingen release-party eller lignende. Det kunne man håbe blev bedre i fremtiden. Men det afhænger af det arbejde i alle er villige til at lægge.
[14:14] <sbc> Det er en meget kort beretning, men det er det jeg har.
[14:14] <sbc> Er der nogen kommentarer til beretningen?
[14:15] <lars_t_h> Der syhes ikke at være så mange aktive medlemmer som for nogle år siden.
[14:15] <Christian_Arvai> godkendt herfra. aktiviteten skal vi gøre noget ved. sp er så hvordan
[14:16] <neglesaks> Korrekt, men det kan være at der er gået karriere og muligvis familie i den for manges vedkommende.
[14:16] <neglesaks> Ligeledes godkendt herfra.
[14:16] <nicky> Også her, god berretning
[14:16] <Christian_Arvai> personligt kan jeg ikke ligge så meget de næste 1½ år
[14:16] <sbc> lars_t_h, Christian_Arvai Jeg tror folk flytter fokus andre steder hen. og unge/studerende bliver nok ikke aktive.
[14:17] <Zilvador> Tja...man kunne vel nævne, at vi har fået støtte og tilbud om et form for partnerskab med DKUUG
[14:17] <sbc> jeg tror hvis jeg var 20-25 i dag og skulle ligge frivilligt arbejde ville det måske være mere med fokus på privatliv/sikkerhed på nettet. og der er Ubuntu mere et redskab end en mål.
[14:17] <sbc> Zilvador, Sandt. Teknisk set først i 2015, men ja, vi har fået 2000+ kr. fra dkuug bl.a. til drift af hjemmeside.
[14:18] <Christian_Arvai> sjovt nok samme mål jeg har med min uddannelse ;)
[14:18] <wangerin> Her nede i forenden, ser vi deværre ikke så mange gamle brugere, men har masser af nye brugere som vi hjælper. Så den del der dækker udbredelse af budskabet ser ud til at virke fint
[14:18] <Zilvador> Bestyrelsesåret går vel fra maj til april :)
[14:18] <sbc> Zilvador, Det har du nok egentlig ret i. Min fejl :)
[14:18] <Klaus_Rasmussen> har installeret Ubuntu på 2 venners PCér
[14:18] <sbc> wangerin, Vender de tilbage og bliver "aktive" når de har fået hjælp?
[14:20] <wangerin> Nogle af dem. Vi har jævnt mange gengangere til vore møder, men de er meget tilbageholdende, fordi det er nybegndere. Både mht liux og i mange tiltælde også IT generelt.
[14:21] <lars_t_h> wangerin, så måske skal den nye generation af Ubuntu brugere først lige have en god bunke erfaring?
[14:21] <Christian_Arvai> som udgangspunkt kan vi se aktiviteten følge kvaliteten af MS-udgivelser. Vista var *** og det gav en masse aktive medlemmer. Win7 kører ok, Win8 er et misforster, og dersværre tror jeg at de rammer med Win10, så det giver ikke et bust
[14:21] <neglesaks> Lige mine tanker, CA
[14:22] <sbc> aktivitet osv. er rigtigt spændende, men måske vi skal gemme det til efter generalforsmalingen eller til Eventuelt, så vi kan få overstået det formelle først? Er det ok hvis vi går videre i dagsordenen så?
[14:22] <wangerin> lars_t_h: Ja. Så længe man ikke føler sig sikker i værktøjet er det svært at skulle hjælpe andre
[14:22] <Christian_Arvai> sad to say. vi har testet W10 i klasen i virtualbox, og det skal nok blive populært
[14:22] <neglesaks> Videre, tak.
[14:22] <sbc> Ok, næste punkt:
[14:22] <sbc> 5. Regnskabsaflæggelse
[14:23] <sbc> Regnskabet kan hentes her:
[14:23] <sbc> https://www.dropbox.com/s/87pynlvn1pwbejy/REGNSKAB%20for%20Udk%202014.ods?dl=0
[14:23] <sbc> (hvis jeg ramte det rette link)
[14:23] <neglesaks> Det ser sådan ud.
[14:23] <sbc> neglesaks, Vil du sige et par ord?
[14:23] <neglesaks> Naturligvis. 2014 har afspejlet foreningens stille aktivitetsniveau.
[14:23] <wangerin> Christian_Arvai: Vi har rigtigt mange som er blevet "tvunget" til at købe ny pc, og derefter ser vores reklame og kommer forbi for at få pustet liv i deres gamle maskiner. En del af dem kommer efterfølglende og vil også ha lubuntu på deres nye maskiner, så nej win8 er ikke lykken for alle :-)
[14:24] <Zilvador> Hvad ligger der bag 'Betaling for DVD'er'?
[14:24] <neglesaks> Vi har haft relativt få udgifter, og størstedelen af disse er i forbindelse med vores hosting af website samt krypto-certifikat. Dertil småudgifter til forsendelse af DvD'er osv.
[14:25] <neglesaks> VI har haft ganske få private donationer på plussiden.
[14:26] <neglesaks> Betalinger for DVD'er ved sbc måske noget om? Det var en transation der var foretaget før jeg kom til.
[14:26] * sbc kigger i webbank. Hang on.
[14:26] <neglesaks> Jeg dækker budget på 2015 når vi har afrundet dette.
[14:26] <lars_t_h> porto?, Zilvador , sbc
[14:27] <Zilvador> Jeg mindes bare ikke at have hørt om så høj en betaling
[14:27] <neglesaks> Jeg har den sbc. Det er to indbetalinger for fragt af medier. Var det til nogen af vores lokalgrupper?
[14:27] <neglesaks> Det er 100+25 i to seperate indbetalinger.
[14:27] <Zilvador> De plejer ikke at betale
[14:28] <neglesaks> dato: 10/jan og 20/jan 2014.
[14:28] <sbc> neglesaks, Zilvador Det er vist fra privatpersoner som har fået tilsendt DVD'er og har ville betale for porto.
[14:28] <Zilvador> Fra hvor mange? Jeg mindes kun at have sendt til en privatperson
[14:28] <neglesaks> Ah. Så det er at betragte som en art privat donation til foreningen :)
[14:28] <sbc> neglesaks, Ja, det kunne måske have været slået sammen.
[14:28] <Zilvador> Nej, privatpersoner skal betale, hvis de vil have tilsendt DVD'er :)
[14:29] <sbc> Zilvador, oh, det huskede jeg ikke.
[14:29] <Blueeyez> De 25 kr er vidst fra mig... :-)
[14:29] <sbc> Blueeyez, bor du i haslev?
[14:29] <Blueeyez> Hmm nej så det ik den 25 kr :-)
[14:29] <Christian_Arvai> jeg tror at de 100kr sidste år er fra mig
[14:29] <Zilvador> Jeg mener ikke, at vi støtter gratis udsendelse af DVD'er til alle, der måtte ønske det. Det ville jeg personligt ikke bryde mig om og jeg kan heller ikke bruge det som argument, når jeg bestiller flere DVD'er
[14:29] <neglesaks> Godt, siden vi har navnene på det skyldige kan vi gå videre?
[14:30] <Christian_Arvai> heheh
[14:30] <sbc> neglesaks, gerne for min skyld. Vil du sige mere til regnskabet?
[14:30] <sbc> medmindre andre har spørgsmål / kommentarer?
[14:30] <neglesaks> For 2015 har jeg sammen med SBC og Nicky budgetlagt fmed en fortsat forvetning om lav foreningsaktivitet.
[14:31] <sbc> Budget: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzp6eqbbzkgdfge/Budget%20for%20Udk%202015.ods?dl=0
[14:31] <buddig> Det store punke er hostingen, og hvis det stod til mig, så gik vi tilbage til one.com, da de har løst de midlertidige problemer. de havde, da vi flyttede
[14:31] <Zilvador> Angående udgifterne til serveraktivitet vil jeg gerne minde bestyrelses på, at vi er blevet tilbudt af DKUUG at have vores servere gratis hos dem. Dermed kunen vi komme af med vores største udgift
[14:31] <neglesaks> Vi har som kort nævnt, modtaget 2000 kr fra DK-UUG, og dette hjælper gevaldigt på regnskabet, og giver foreningen flere år at løbe på ved det aktuelle udgiftsaktivitet, selv hvis vi antager at der ikke komemr uderligere private bidrag til foreningen.
[14:31] <Zilvador> Men jeg har ikke fået reaktioner på det endnu
[14:32] <neglesaks> Derudover kan jeg konstatere at vi er afskåret fra AdSense indtægter, siden Google & Co. var så fline at lukke vores konto uden at give os en grund.
[14:32] <Blueeyez> Hvad er fordele/ulemper ved at have server igennem dem?
[14:32] <Zilvador> Jeg ser ingen ulemper ind til videre
[14:33] <Zilvador> Og ang. Adsense - Nicky og Anders skulle gerne være i gang med at sætte en ny konto op :)
[14:33] <neglesaks> Slutteligt kan jeg sige at der har være overensstemmelse mellem kontostand samt forelagte udgiftsbilag, så regnskabet synes værende i orden. Foreningens aktuelle kontostand er ca 7600 kr.
[14:33] <neglesaks> Jeg har ikke yderligere at berette, sbc.
[14:34] <sbc> Spørgsmål eller kommentarer til regnskab / neglesaks ?
[14:34] <lars_t_h> buddig, vi har desværre en lidt tung opsætning der kræver en del ressourser så det er nok ikke en mulighed lige for øjeblikket (flytte tilbage til one.com)
[14:34] <Zilvador> Beklager afbrydelsen. Jeg viste ikke, at det var en beretning :)
[14:34] <Zilvador> Og ja...jeg har jo lige givet en del kommentarer
[14:34] <Blueeyez> lars_t_h ubuntudanmark.dk?
[14:35] <lars_t_h> Blueeyez, ja
[14:35] <Klaus_Rasmussen> hvorfor ikke DK-UUG?
[14:35] <sbc> Zilvador, Skal vi tage diskussion om at flytte hosting til dkuug til et senere møde, hvor der ligger et konkret beslutningsforslag?
[14:35] <Blueeyez> +1
[14:35] <lars_t_h> +1
[14:35] <Klaus_Rasmussen> +1
[14:35] <nicky> +1
[14:35] <Zilvador> sbc, ikke muligt
[14:35] <Blueeyez> og i må godt samle en masse info om emnet os :-)
[14:36] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[14:36] <Zilvador> Vi mangler en vurdering fra administratorerne i forhold til vores opsætning
[14:36] <Christian_Arvai> +1 , jeg er overhovedet inde i det pt. jeg har først tid om 2 mdr
[14:36] <Christian_Arvai> nicky eller anders kan evt tage det
[14:36] <sbc> Zilvador, Jeg tror ikke jeg forstår dig. Kan du tage den fra toppen for min skyld, jeg er vist helt sat af?
[14:36] <Zilvador> :)
[14:37] <Zilvador> DKUUG tilbyder os gratis serverplads på deres servere
[14:37] <neglesaks> Kan jeg bede om forsamlingens holdning til det forelagte regnskab, samt beretning?
[14:37] <Blueeyez> info om deres servere?
[14:37] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[14:37] <lars_t_h> +1
[14:37] <Zilvador> Det kan betyde, at vi mister vores tungeste udgift
[14:37] <Klaus_Rasmussen> +1
[14:37] <nicky> Nu er Anders her jo desværre ikke, men vi er enige om, at fuld SSH-adgang til hostingserveren er nødvendigt. Vi ved endnu ikke om DK-UUG tilbyder det
[14:37] <Zilvador> Men vi mangler stadig et svar på, om det er muligt.
[14:37] <Zilvador> Da vores opsætning er en smule kompleks
[14:37] <neglesaks> Hvem er dirigent?
[14:38] <Klaus_Rasmussen> gg
[14:38] <sbc> neglesaks, Det forsøger jeg at være, sorry, det flyder lidt.
[14:38] <Christian_Arvai> (angel)
[14:38] <neglesaks> Tak :)
[14:38] <sbc> ok, så da vi ikke har alt info om evt. flytning af hosting lukker vi den debat nu. Den må komme på et andet tidspunkt.
[14:38] <sbc> Er der nogen indvendinger mod regnskabet, så skal man råbe op nu!
[14:38] <sbc> ... ellers går vi videre (der er stadig en lang dagsorden...)
[14:39] <sbc> Næste punkt:
[14:39] <sbc> 6. Behandling af indkomne forslag
[14:39] <sbc> Der er et par forslag om ændring af vedtægter.
[14:39] <sbc> Første forslag:
[14:39] <sbc> Det foreslås at i §4 stk. 4 ændres "kasser" til "kasserer" og "LoCo kontakt" til "LoCo-kontakt"
[14:39] <sbc> Motivation: Retstavning.
[14:39] <sbc> Stillet af Daniel (og / eller jannie ) :)
[14:39] * lars_t_h har læst dem og er +1 for alle forslag
[14:39] <sbc> Er der nogen der har lyst til at tale imod?
[14:40] <sbc> lars_t_h, Vi tager dem lige et af gangen :)
[14:40] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[14:40] <lars_t_h> +1
[14:40] <nicky> Enig i ændringen
[14:40] <Klaus_Rasmussen> +1
[14:40] <Momsemor> +1
[14:40] <Blueeyez> +1
[14:40] <Futte> +1
[14:40] <sbc> Hvis ingen vil tale imod forslaget kan vi tage afstemning (som er i gang kan jeg se).
[14:40] <Zilvador> +1 ;)
[14:40] <sbc> Det ser ud til at blive vedtaget...
[14:40] <neglesaks> +1
[14:40] <Blueeyez> sbc hvis jeg ku' så gjorde jeg det ;-)
[14:40] <wangerin> +1 ingen indevendinger til stavningen ;-)
[14:41] <sbc> Blueeyez, ikke forstået?
[14:41] <Blueeyez> sbc hvis jeg kunne tale imod, så gjorde jeg det..
[14:41] <sbc> ahh, ok :)
[14:41] <Blueeyez> ;-)
[14:41] <sbc> Det er vedtaget.
[14:41] <sbc> Næste ændringsforslag:
[14:41] <sbc> §4 Stk. 5. omskrives, så det har følgende ordlyd:
[14:41] <sbc> Stk. 5. Forslag, der ønskes behandlet på generalforsamlingen, skal være bestyrelsen i hænde senest 8 dage før generalforsamlingen; og udsendes til medlemmerne per email senest 5 dage før generalforsamlingen. Forslag om vedtægtsændringer, der ønskes behandlet, skal være bestyrelsen i hænde senest 8 dage før generalforsamlingen og udsendes til medlemmerne per email senest 5 dage før generalforsamlingen.
[14:41] <sbc> §4 Stk. 6. omskrives, så det har følgende ordlyd:
[14:41] <sbc> Stk 6. Opstilling til tillidsposter skal ske skriftligt til bestyrelsen senest 8 dage før generalforsamlingen og skal udsendes til medlemmerne, senest 5 dage før generalforsamlingen. Hvis ikke der er opstillet nok til kampvalg, kan nominering ske på selve generalforsamlingen, hvis mindst 5 fremmødte ønsker dette.
[14:41] <sbc> Motivation: De nuværende tre forskellige tidsfrister gør det administrative arbejde med indkaldelse unødigt besværligt. Da vi ikke er ved at drukne i forslag og vedtægtsændringer tror jeg godt vi alle kan klare at fristerne rykkes som skitseret i forslaget.
[14:42] <sbc> Er der nogen som har lyst til at tale imod forslaget?
[14:42] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[14:42] <lars_t_h> +1
[14:42] <nicky> +1
[14:42] <sbc> ok, vi stemmer :)
[14:42] <Momsemor> +1
[14:42] <Klaus_Rasmussen> +1
[14:42] <neglesaks> +1
[14:42] <Blueeyez> +1
[14:42] <Futte> +1
[14:43] <wangerin> +1
[14:43] <Zilvador> +1
[14:43] <sbc> Det ser også ud til at blive vedtaget. Næste forslag:
[14:43] <lars_t_h> sbc, skulle man præcicere hvor "til betyrelsen" er?
[14:43] * AJenbo underskylder han har sovet over sig, det var en lang lørdag :/
[14:43] <sbc> lars_t_h, God pointe!
[14:43] <sbc> AJenbo, Velkommen til. Godt at se dig!
[14:43] <lars_t_h> hej AJenbo
[14:43] <Christian_Arvai> hejsa
[14:43] <nicky> Hej Anders :-)
[14:43] <Zilvador> Velkommen til Anders :)
[14:43] <AJenbo> Hej alle sammen :)
[14:43] <Momsemor> Godmorgen Anders
[14:44] <AJenbo> Det er også godt at se jer :)
[14:44] <Christian_Arvai> ilm
[14:44] <sbc> Nu bliver jeg i tvivl. Kan vi ændre i forslagene her, eller skal det formelt igennem endnu en generalforsamling, hvis vi vil lave yderligere ændringer?
[14:44] <lars_t_h> En præcision er vel ikke en markant ændring eller hvad?
[14:45] <nicky> Det ville jeg tro, for vi er over tidsfristen for forslag
[14:45] <Zilvador> sbc, jeg tror ikke, at det står nævnt, men som regel kan man foretage små ændringer her og større ændringer skal på en ny generalforsamling
[14:45] <AJenbo> jeg tror det plejer at være sådan at hvis der er 66 til stede kan man godt lave ændringer
[14:45] <Klaus_Rasmussen> trorr jeg ik vi ka
[14:46] <lars_t_h> AJenbo, du mener det man kalder "absolut flertal"?
[14:46] <sbc> ok, så hvordan skal det specificeres. Skal der bare stå "vha. e-mail til bestyrelsen / formanden"?
[14:46] <Zilvador> Vist nedstemt :). Skal evt. tages op på ekstraordinæar generalforsamling
[14:46] <wangerin> Jeg ser heller ingen problemer i småændringer i forslag på generealforsamlingen - det er da meget normalt at der sker justeringer
[14:46] <AJenbo> lars_t_h: ja
[14:47] <lars_t_h> sbc, man kan også skrive at det skal stå som et indlæg i den tråd der omhandler generalforsamlingen og at indlægget skal være det der er i "bestyrelsen" forumet.
[14:47] <sbc> Vil nogen gøre indsigelse for at vi laver små ændringer, så råb op nu!
[14:48] <nicky> !
[14:48] <sbc> nicky, skyd
[14:48] <nicky> Jeg ved ikke, jeg ville egentlig foretrække at vi ikke lavede mindre ændringer
[14:49] <nicky> Og så enten ændrer det om 1 år igen, eller ved en forsamling tidligere /
[14:49] <lars_t_h> Så næste møde er alm møde og ekstraordinær generalforsamling??
[14:50] <nicky> Det kunne vi fx godt aftale
[14:50] <nicky> Og vi kan jo stadig stemme / godkende det nuværende forslag
[14:50] <sbc> nicky, når jeg tænker efter hælder jeg også mere til dette. Det bliver rodet 15 mennesker i en irc kanal at få en formulering på plads, specielt når vi har en lang dagsorden foran os. Så hellere noget fornuftigt gennemarbejdet vi har haft tid til at læse og tænke efter.
[14:50] <Momsemor> +1
[14:50] <Blueeyez> +1
[14:50] <nicky> +1
[14:51] <Zilvador> +1
[14:51] <lars_t_h> god kombination, +1 til dete forslag og så præcision senere
[14:51] <sbc> ok, så tilbage til det oprindelige forslag. Er der nogen der vil tale imod det?
[14:51] <sbc> Så stemmer vi om forslag nr. to. Hvem kan stemme for?
[14:51] <lars_t_h> +1
[14:51] <Blueeyez> +1
[14:51] <Momsemor> +1
[14:51] <nicky> +1
[14:51] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[14:51] <neglesaks> +1
[14:51] <Zilvador> +1
[14:51] <sbc> Det er vist vedtaget.
[14:52] <sbc> Forslag nr. tre:
[14:52] <sbc> §4 stk. 4
[14:52] <sbc> Punktet "Valg af bestyrelse" erstattes med:
[14:52] <sbc> Valg af bestyrelse
[14:52] <sbc> Valg af Formand (lige år)
[14:52] <sbc> Valg af Kasserer (ulige år)
[14:52] <sbc> Valg af max 7 menige bestyrelsesmedlemmer (2-4 i lige år og 1-3 i ulige år) og 2 suppleanter
[14:52] <sbc> Valg af revisor (ikke bestyrelsesmedlem)
[14:52] <sbc> Valg af LoCo kontakt (kan godt være et bestyrelsesmedlem)
[14:52] <sbc> § 6. Stk. 1 ændres til:
[14:52] <sbc> Stk. 1 Foreningens daglige ledelse udgøres af bestyrelsen, der foruden Formanden består af Kassereren, og 3-7 medlemmer. Bestyrelsen vælges af generalforsamlingen for en 2-årig periode, således, at der vælges Formand + 2-4 medlemmer i lige år og Kasserer + 1-3 medlemmer i ulige år. Formand og Kasserer kan ikke være på valg samme år.
[14:52] <sbc> Motivation:
[14:52] <sbc> 2 årig valgperiode med Formand + 2-4 medlemmer på valg i lige år og Kasserer + 1-3 medlemmer i ulige år sikrer, at bestyrelsen ikke pludselig består af ene "uerfarne" medlemmer.
[14:52] <sbc> En bestyrelse af Formand, Kasserer og 3-7 medlemmer giver mulighed for valg af flere medlemmer, hvis flere ønsker valg og bestyrelsesarbejdet synes måske ikke så "overvældende", når der er flere om det. Ved evt. stemmelighed tæller Formandens stemme dobbelt.
[14:52] <sbc> Er der nogen der vil tale imod forslaget?
[14:52] <Zilvador> !
[14:52] <sbc> Zilvador, du har ordet
[14:53] <Zilvador> Jeg kan frygte, at mulige kandidater kan blive demotiveret ved den lange valgperiode.
[14:53] * lars_t_h er ikke skræmt
[14:53] <Christian_Arvai> enig med Zilvador
[14:53] <Zilvador> Jeg kan sagtens se fornuften i det, men i kraft af den manglende tilslutning til valgene, får vi nok ikke mange nye til at stille op ved at forlænge valgperioden
[14:54] <Zilvador> Og jeg vil rigtigt gerne se nye ansigter til bestyerlsesmøderne og i bestyrelsen for at skabe mere liv :) /
[14:54] <lars_t_h> Man kunne jo altid bakke ud og lade en suppleant komme til.
[14:54] <sbc> andre der ønsker ordet, for at tale for / imod?
[14:54] <nicky> Jeg syntes det virker som et fornuftigt kompromis, så bestyrelsen ikke kan være helt grøn
[14:54] <Momsemor> !
[14:54] <sbc> Momsemor, værsgo
[14:55] <neglesaks> !
[14:55] <Klaus_Rasmussen> nødt til at gå
[14:55] <nicky> Klaus_Rasmussen, tak for i dag :-)
[14:55] <Momsemor> Jeg tror ikke, det har den helt store betydning, om det er 1 eller 2 år, men det, at man sidder med "erfarne" folk er vigtigt
[14:55] <Christian_Arvai> vi ses klaus
[14:55] <Momsemor> /
[14:56] <sbc> neglesaks, værsgo
[14:56] <lars_t_h> Jeg er enig med Momsemor
[14:56] <neglesaks> Nu er det for sent at stille formelle forslag, men kan det tænkes at vi kan have en kasserersuppleeant, evt. en som kan træde til fra bestyrelsen?
[14:57] <neglesaks> Det kan jo være at jeg eller en anden person uventet bliver kørt over af en damptromle osv.
[14:57] <buddig> Forslaget lyder fornuftigt, stemmer for, selv om jeg ikke lige husker hvordan det er nu.
[14:57] <Christian_Arvai> hov hov ... det var sku en mazda der ramte mig !! ;)
[14:58] <nicky> Strengt tage burde der også være en supplant-løsning for formanden
[14:58] <buddig> Christian_Arvai, den ramte dig forhåbentlig under fødderne
[14:58] <sbc> neglesaks, nicky: det husker vi til næste år / næste generalforsamling.
[14:58] <sbc> Er der andre der vil tale for / imod forslaget?
[14:58] <lars_t_h> Det med kasserer suppleant er godt emne til ekstraordinær generalforsamling
[14:59] <lars_t_h> +1
[14:59] <sbc> Hvis der ikke er det så går vi til afstemning. Hvem kan stemme for forslaget?
[14:59] <buddig> +1
[14:59] <Momsemor> +1
[14:59] <nicky> +1
[14:59] <Blueeyez> +1
[14:59] <AJenbo> +1
[14:59] <Zilvador> Jeg stemmer desværre imod :)
[14:59] <neglesaks> +1
[14:59] <Christian_Arvai> -1
[15:00] <Blueeyez> hvad stemmer vi om?
[15:00] <sbc> Blueeyez, forslag nr. tre, stillet af Jannie / Momsemor.
[15:00] <neglesaks> Hm, ja, kan vi gerntage det? Al snakken støjer desværre :I
[15:00] <lars_t_h> se kl 16:52:06
[15:00] <Blueeyez> altså om suppleant til div poster?
[15:01] <sbc> Kan vi ikke lige få folk til at repsekterer talerrække, og markere med ! hvis man ønsker ordet.
[15:01] <sbc> Når alle skriver i et væk mistes overblikket.
[15:01] <Blueeyez> !
[15:01] <sbc> Så hvis man vil "have ordet" så markerer man med !.
[15:01] <sbc> Tak!
[15:01] <sbc> Blueeyez, Du har ordet
[15:01] <sbc> (vi vender tilbage til afstemningen lige om lidt!)
[15:02] <Blueeyez> Forslaget at der skal sidde erfarne mennesker så bestyelsen ikke er helt grøn? /
[15:02] <sbc> Ok, Forslaget er således:
[15:02] <sbc> §4 stk. 4
[15:02] <sbc> Punktet "Valg af bestyrelse" erstattes med:
[15:02] <sbc> Valg af bestyrelse
[15:02] <sbc> Valg af Formand (lige år)
[15:02] <sbc> Valg af Kasserer (ulige år)
[15:02] <sbc> Valg af max 7 menige bestyrelsesmedlemmer (2-4 i lige år og 1-3 i ulige år) og 2 suppleanter
[15:02] <sbc> Valg af revisor (ikke bestyrelsesmedlem)
[15:02] <sbc> Valg af LoCo kontakt (kan godt være et bestyrelsesmedlem)
[15:02] <sbc> § 6. Stk. 1 ændres til:
[15:02] <sbc> Stk. 1 Foreningens daglige ledelse udgøres af bestyrelsen, der foruden Formanden består af Kassereren, og 3-7 medlemmer. Bestyrelsen vælges af generalforsamlingen for en 2-årig periode, således, at der vælges Formand + 2-4 medlemmer i lige år og Kasserer + 1-3 medlemmer i ulige år. Formand og Kasserer kan ikke være på valg samme år.
[15:02] <sbc> Motivation:
[15:02] <sbc> 2 årig valgperiode med Formand + 2-4 medlemmer på valg i lige år og Kasserer + 1-3 medlemmer i ulige år sikrer, at bestyrelsen ikke pludselig består af ene "uerfarne" medlemmer.
[15:02] <sbc> En bestyrelse af Formand, Kasserer og 3-7 medlemmer giver mulighed for valg af flere medlemmer, hvis flere ønsker valg og bestyrelsesarbejdet synes måske ikke så "overvældende", når der er flere om det. Ved evt. stemmelighed tæller Formandens stemme dobbelt.
[15:02] <sbc> Vi stemmer nu for / imod forlsaget, med +1 / -1.
[15:02] <sbc> (igen)
[15:03] <nicky> +1
[15:03] <Momsemor> +1
[15:03] <Blueeyez> +1
[15:03] <neglesaks> +1
[15:03] <sbc> (dem der stemte før må meget gerne stemme igen, så det bliver mere overskueligt - undskyld ulejligheden)
[15:03] <Zilvador> -1
[15:03] <Christian_Arvai> -1
[15:04] <sbc> Der kan stemmes 30 sek endnu...
[15:04] <lars_t_h> +1
[15:04] <sbc> Forslaget er vedtaget.
[15:04] <neglesaks> 5 for; 2 imod
[15:04] <Zilvador> Stemmetæller 1 siger 5 for og 2 imod :)
[15:04] <neglesaks> Accord.
[15:04] <sbc> neglesaks, Zilvador :)
[15:04] <sbc> Næste punkt:
[15:04] <sbc> 7. Godkendelse af budget
[15:05] <sbc> Er der nogen som ønsker ordet, før vi stemmer?
[15:05] <neglesaks> Jeg har aldderede fremlagt budget for 2015 - skal jeg gentage det?
[15:05] <sbc> neglesaks, vi har ikke formelt stemt om det, så det tænker jeg lige vi gør, men der behøves vist ikke siges noget?
[15:05] <sbc> medmindre nogen vil tale imod forslaget...?
[15:05] <sbc> det lader det ikke til.
[15:06] <sbc> Vi stemmer om budgetforslaget, som kan læses her:
[15:06] <sbc> Budgetforslag: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzp6eqbbzkgdfge/Budget%20for%20Udk%202015.ods?dl=0
[15:06] <sbc> +1
[15:06] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[15:06] <lars_t_h> +1
[15:06] <nicky> +1
[15:06] <Momsemor> +1
[15:06] <neglesaks> +1
[15:06] <buddig> +1
[15:06] <Zilvador> +1
[15:06] <sbc> Det er vist vedtaget. Næste punkt
[15:06] <sbc> 8. Valg af bestyrelse
[15:06] <sbc> * Valg af formand
[15:06] <sbc> Jeg stiller op, er der andre kandidater?
[15:07] <sbc> Så er det nu man skal springe frem!
[15:07] <Momsemor> !
[15:07] <sbc> Momsemor, værsgo
[15:07] <AJenbo> !
[15:07] <Zilvador> !
[15:08] <Momsemor> Træder de nye vedtægter ikke i kraft med øjeblikkelig virkning? /
[15:08] <neglesaks> Jo.
[15:08] <Momsemor> !
[15:08] <sbc> "Vedtægtsændringerne træder i kraft med virkning fra den generalforsamling, de vedtages på."
[15:08] <Momsemor> Så er det vel Kassereren, der er på valg?
[15:09] <sbc> AJenbo, værsgo
[15:09] <AJenbo> Jeg kan ikke læse budgettet uden en drop box konto, det måtte gerne være frit tilgængeligt næste gang.
[15:09] <AJenbo> Der for jeg ikke har stemt for / mo det.
[15:09] <AJenbo> slut /
[15:10] <neglesaks> AJenbo, jeg kan maile dig det?
[15:10] <nicky> Kan du ikke bare lukke pop'en?
[15:10] <sbc> AJenbo, Det gik lidt hurtigt i går. Jeg ved godt det er dårlig stil. Det bliver lige lagt et fornuftigt sted efter mødet, online!
[15:10] <sbc> Zilvador, værsgo
[15:10] <Zilvador> Samme som Jannie, men spørgsmålet var egentlig, om formanden nu dermed også skal stille op for to år /
[15:10] <AJenbo> !
[15:11] <Momsemor> !
[15:11] <sbc> Momsemor, værsgo
[15:11] <Momsemor> Formanden er på valg til næste år (lige år) /
[15:11] <sbc> AJenbo, værsgo
[15:12] <AJenbo> nicky har ret hvis man trykker de rigtige steder får man lov at hente file, my bad :( Slut /
[15:12] <sbc> Momsemor, værsgo (igen?)
[15:12] <Momsemor> Har "talt" /
[15:13] <sbc> Jeg tror jeg har mistet overblikket. I må lige "holde mig i håndne" hvis jeg roder rundt... men så er det valg af kasserer nu?
[15:13] <Momsemor> Jep ;-)
[15:13] <nicky> Yep :-)
[15:13] <sbc> OK :)
[15:13] <sbc> Hvem stiller op som Kasserer?
[15:14] * sbc kigger sig omkring...
[15:14] <Blueeyez> !
[15:14] <sbc> Blueeyez, værsgo
[15:14] <Blueeyez> Som kasseer så er det blot ren økonomi man styrer? eller er der mere?
[15:14] <Blueeyez> - /
[15:14] <neglesaks> Ren bogføring.
[15:15] <sbc> Blueeyez, er du fristet?
[15:15] <Blueeyez> Vil godt prøve
[15:15] <neglesaks> Jeg har lavet regnearkene nemme at hitte ud af, og stå gerne tilgængelig for at hjælpe og give råd, besvare spørgsmål m.v
[15:15] <Blueeyez> Jae, det er vel uden for meget fag ord?
[15:15] <neglesaks> Jeg vil selv gerne træde fra pga. personlige grunde.
[15:15] <neglesaks> Blueeyez, ikke meget fagfnidder.
[15:15] <Blueeyez> er frisk så :-)
[15:15] <sbc> neglesaks, Du skal have tak for det arbejde du har lagt! :)
[15:15] <lars_t_h> +1 for Blueeyez
[15:16] <Klaus_Rasmussen> +1
[15:16] <nicky> +1
[15:16] <buddig> +1
[15:16] <neglesaks> Tak, omend det er småting. En anden gang hvor jeg ikke er mere belastet ville jeg gerne gøre en større indsats.
[15:16] <neglesaks> +1
[15:16] <Zilvador> +1
[15:16] <sbc> Super, vi har en Kasserer valgt!
[15:16] <AJenbo> +1 for blueeyez
[15:16] <neglesaks> Tillykke Blueeyez
[15:16] <Momsemor> Tak til Neglesaks og +1 til Blueeyes
[15:17] <Blueeyez> Tak :-) og tak fordi du vil støtte hvis behovet kommer :-)
[15:17] <sbc> Næste punkt. Valg af 1-3 bestyrelsesmedlemmer (og den nuværende bestyrelse bliver så alle i bestyrelsen?)
[15:17] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[15:17] <nicky> +1
[15:17] <buddig> !
[15:17] <sbc> buddig, værsgo
[15:18] <lars_t_h> !
[15:18] <buddig> har de siddende accepteret genvalg? /
[15:18] <sbc> lars_t_h, værsgo
[15:18] <sbc> buddig, god pointe.
[15:18] <AJenbo> !
[15:18] <AJenbo> Jeg vil gerne acceptere genvalg :) /
[15:19] <lars_t_h> Medmindre jeg stadig er i bestyrelsen pga vdtægtsændringerne, så genopstiler jeg /
[15:19] <sbc> AJenbo, værsgo
[15:19] <AJenbo> Jeg vil gerne acceptere genvalg :) /
[15:19] <sbc> er der andre der ønsker ordet?
[15:19] <sbc> Er der nogen kandidater til bestyrelsen (som ikke allerede sidder i bestyrelsen)?
[15:19] <Momsemor> Jeg bliver også på min pind ;-)
[15:20] <sbc> vi skulle jo gerne have nogle friske kræfter ind i bestyrelsen også ;)
[15:20] <nicky> Jeg vil gerne stille op
[15:20] <buddig> !
[15:20] <Momsemor> Ja, kom u, vi bider ikke ;-9 (ret meget)
[15:20] <sbc> buddig, værsgo
[15:20] <Zilvador> !
[15:20] <lars_t_h> Momsemor, haha
[15:21] <sbc> nicky, lyder godt!
[15:21] <Momsemor> Super
[15:21] <buddig> Med de accepter, består bestyrelsen kun af friske kræfter.:-)
[15:22] <sbc> Zilvador, værsgo
[15:22] <Momsemor> Henning, som du kan sige det ;-9
[15:22] <Zilvador> Jeg kan godt blive siddende som følge af vedtægterne, men jeg regner også med at tage mig af færre administrative opgaver, da jeg kan mærke, at det ikke er det, der motiverer mig.
[15:22] <Zilvador> /
[15:23] <sbc> ok
[15:23] <sbc> Så vi har nicky som kandidat til bestyrelsen. Andre (nogen jeg har overset)?
[15:24] <sbc> ok, vi stemmer for nickys plads i bestyrelsen.
[15:24] <sbc> +1
[15:24] <Christian_Arvai> +1
[15:24] <Momsemor> +1
[15:24] <AJenbo> +1
[15:24] <Blueeyez> +1
[15:24] <buddig> +1
[15:24] <Zilvador> +1
[15:24] <lars_t_h> +1
[15:24] <nicky> Jamen jeg takker mange gange :-)
[15:24] <neglesaks> +1
[15:24] <sbc> Så skal vi evt. vælge to suppleanter.
[15:25] <sbc> Er der snart nogen i kanalen som ikke har nogen tillidsposter...?
[15:25] <Zilvador> Tror jeg ikke
[15:25] <sbc> Det kan være vi hopper det punkt over? Ellers skal man råbe op nu!
[15:26] <sbc> Valg af revisor (ikke bestyrelsesmedlem)
[15:26] <sbc> Hvem var det der havde kontakt til vores nuværende revisor?
[15:26] <sbc> som jeg har glemt hvem er... :(
[15:26] <neglesaks> Jeg vil gerne stille op som revisor, jeg kan på siden assistere voor nye kasserer.
[15:26] <sbc> cool!
[15:27] <Momsemor> +1
[15:27] <buddig> +1
[15:27] <sbc> der lader ikke til at være nogen protester / modkandidater :)
[15:27] <sbc> +1
[15:27] <Blueeyez> +1
[15:27] <sbc> Så når vi til:
[15:27] <sbc> Valg af LoCo kontakt (kan godt være et bestyrelsesmedlem)
[15:27] <sbc> Hvem stiller op?
[15:27] <lars_t_h> +1
[15:27] <AJenbo> +1
[15:28] <Zilvador> Andre er meget velkomne til at tage over, hvis det interesserer dem.
[15:28] <sbc> Zilvador, Der er vist ikke bid - du hænger på den :)
[15:29] <Zilvador> :)
[15:29] <nicky> +1
[15:29] <Blueeyez> +1
[15:29] <sbc> +1
[15:29] <Momsemor> Vil du?
[15:29] <sbc> Momsemor, var det til Zilvador du spurgte?
[15:30] <Momsemor> Ja, sorry
[15:30] <Zilvador> Jeg kan godt sidde og holde posten varm
[15:30] <Momsemor> +1
[15:30] <Zilvador> Og tak for spørgsmålet :)
[15:31] <sbc> Så nåede vi gennem. Tillykke til alle de valgte :)
[15:31] <sbc> Sidste punkt:
[15:31] <sbc> Eventuelt
[15:31] <sbc> Er der nogen som ønsker ordet?
[15:31] <lars_t_h> !
[15:31] <Zilvador> !
[15:31] <lars_t_h> Den der ekstraordinære generalforsamling
[15:32] <sbc> lars_t_h, værsgo
[15:32] <lars_t_h> /
[15:32] <sbc> lars_t_h, ikke forstået. Kan du gentage /uddybe?
[15:33] <lars_t_h> Der var jo punkt 2 med den der præcisering som kræver en ekstraordinær generalforsaming - der var også en som havde et andet emne
[15:33] <lars_t_h> /
[15:33] <sbc> Zilvador, værsgo
[15:34] <Zilvador> Nu hvor Nicky og Ajenbo er her, kan vi måske få en status på Adsense-implementeringen? :)
[15:34] <Zilvador> Jeg mener, at det var dem, der havde bolden
[15:35] <AJenbo> !
[15:35] <Zilvador> /
[15:35] <sbc> AJenbo, værsgo
[15:35] <AJenbo> Det er helt og aldels udelukket for os at gøre brug af google reklamer på ubuntudanmark.dk domænet
[15:36] <Zilvador> !
[15:36] <AJenbo> Google har ikke været til at hukke eller stikke i, men jeg vil prøve at se om jeg via mit nye arbejde kan finde en måde at snakke med nogen i google der kan løfte banløysningen.
[15:36] <AJenbo> /
[15:37] <sbc> Zilvador, værsgo
[15:37] <Zilvador> Det var synd. Men jeg håber, at vi kan gøre noget, så vi kan få en reel indtægtskilde.
[15:37] <Zilvador> Andet spørgsmål: Hvad skal vi gøre med forslaget om at skifte hostingudbyder til DKUUG's løsning? Har administratorerne interesse og hvad skal de bruge for at finde ud af, om det er muligt?
[15:38] <Zilvador> De er velkomne til at få en kontakt hos DKUUG for at komme med uddybende spørgsmål. /
[15:38] <sbc> nicky, AJenbo Har I lyst til at svare, eller skal vi tage den over mail, og ikke her på mødet?
[15:39] <sbc> Andet til eventuelt?
[15:39] <AJenbo> !
[15:39] <sbc> AJenbo, værsgo
[15:40] <Momsemor> !
[15:40] <AJenbo> Du kunne nok være fint at flytte, vi skal bare lige have overskud til at gøre det og så planlægge det.
[15:40] <AJenbo> /
[15:40] <Zilvador> !
[15:40] <lars_t_h> !
[15:40] <sbc> Momsemor, værsgo
[15:41] <Momsemor> Hvor lang er indkaldelsesfristen for ekstraordinær Generalforsamling og er der IRC-møde på tirsdag? /
[15:41] <sbc> !
[15:41] <sbc> Zilvador, værsgo
[15:41] <Zilvador> Jeg har ikke selv planlagt med IRC-møde på tirsdag. Andre er velkomne til at sætte det op :)
[15:42] <Zilvador> En anden lille ting fra mig. Af personlige årsager regner jeg ikke med at kalde ind til og arrangere møder fremover, som jeg har i et stykke tid nu. Jeg håber, at nogle andre vil tage over for en stund :) /
[15:42] <sbc> lars_t_h, værsgo
[15:42] <lars_t_h> letsencrypt.org har planlagt at udstede SSL certificater gratis fra omkring midten af 2015, og så er der en 1 ekstra udgift mindre.
[15:42] <lars_t_h> /
[15:42] <Zilvador> +1
[15:43] <lars_t_h> Mozilla Foundation er platinium sponsor i det projekt
[15:43] <AJenbo> !
[15:43] <sbc> så er det mig :)
[15:43] <sbc> Stk. 2. Indkaldelsesfristen for en ekstraordinær generalforsamling er 2 uger.
[15:43] <sbc> Jeg vil forsøge at holde møde-fanen højt, men tager gerne mod hjælp, specielt til det praktiske med dagsorden, oprette møder på de forskellige platforme osv.
[15:43] <sbc> Jeg syntes et kort møde for den nye bestyrelse tirsdag ville være fint.
[15:43] <sbc> AJenbo, værsgo
[15:44] <AJenbo> Jeg kunne nok godt overtales til at begynde at sende indkalderserne ud, selv om det måske virker lidt ironisk med min lidt spottede fremmøden.
[15:44] <AJenbo> /
[15:44] <sbc> Andet til eventuelt?
[15:45] <Zilvador> Evt. et Hip-hip-hurra for Vivid Vervet?
[15:45] <sbc> Så siger jeg tak for et godt møde og god ro og orden. Fortsat go' søndag!
[15:45] <sbc> Zilvador, Selvfølgelig!
[15:45] <Zilvador> Hehe
[15:45] <sbc> (og Debian 8?)
[15:45] <Zilvador> Ja da!
[15:45] <sbc> Hurra Hurra Hurra!
[15:45] <lars_t_h> Nå er Debian 8 ude nu?
[15:45] <sbc> Næste lts er... 16.04 ?
[15:46] <Zilvador> Jep
[15:46] <sbc> lars_t_h, https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150426
[15:46] <lars_t_h> takker sbc
[15:46] <sbc> Zilvador, Det er om et år... hvis vi skulle få noget release på benene så er det måske mere realistisk, end 15.10 ?
[15:46] <sbc> release-party?
[15:46] <Momsemor> Fortsat god søndag, høres ved på tirsdag :-)
[15:47] <lars_t_h> Jeg er specielt interresseret i en opdatering libc, hvor en slem DNS look bug er fjernet.
[15:47] <Zilvador> sbc, det har du ret i. Jeg deltager gerne, hvis der er ideer
[15:47] <lars_t_h> s/libc/glibc
[15:47] <sbc> Nåh, tak for i aften :) Vi ses / snakkes :D
[15:47] <Blueeyez> neglesaks og sbc
[15:47] <Zilvador> Vi ses :)
[15:47] <AJenbo> tak for endnu et år i en dejlig forening
[15:47] <sbc> Blueeyez, ja?
[15:47] <Zilvador> Jeg kan desværre nok ikke være der på tirsdag
[15:48] <Zilvador> Selv tak :)
[15:48] <Blueeyez> sbc neglesaks jeg skal lige rettes til :-)
[15:48] <neglesaks> sbc, sender du en mail til Blueeyez og jeg, så returnerer jeg den endelige regnskabspakke.
[15:48] <sbc> Blueeyez, vil du lige give mig din e-mail?
[15:48] <Blueeyez> [email protected]
[15:49] <neglesaks> sender mail nu
[15:49] <Blueeyez> ;-)
[15:49] <sbc> neglesaks, Jeg sender ingen mail så ;)
[15:50] <Blueeyez> neglesaks du bruger vel ikke google talk?
[15:50] <Blueeyez> sbc bruger du google talk?
[15:50] <sbc> Blueeyez, sjældent, men har det.
[15:50] <Klaus_Rasmussen> hej med jer
[15:51] <Blueeyez> okay, bar til evt henvendelse nu da jeg er i systemet ;-)
[15:51] <sbc> Blueeyez, det er fint.
[15:51] <sbc> Tak for i aften alle sammen. Ses / snakkes.
[15:52] <Blueeyez> neglesaks status? :-)
[15:54] <neglesaks> mail er på vej
[15:54] <neglesaks> tak for GF allesammen...
[15:55] <Blueeyez> super :-) tak i lige måde :-)
[15:55] <Blueeyez> smutter så :-)
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[12:48] <jackweirdy> Is anyone using juju to prepare their development environment?
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2015-04-26-#xubuntu
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[01:54] <len__> Does anyone know why some apps show up as running apps in the session manager, and some don't?
[01:55] <len__> If they don't show up in that list they can't be saved with the session.
[01:55] <len__> unless hardcoded in a autostartup section instead.
[01:56] <len__> I want sublime text sessions to be saved, but they are invisible to the session manager for some reason.
[01:56] <len__> Chrome/Chromium don't show up either, but Firefox shows up fine.
[01:57] <len__> I don't get what is going on.
[01:58] <len__> Everything shows up fine in xfce's task manager though--it is only the session manager that has selective vision.
[02:59] <holstein> Guest69247: where did you get sublime text? AFAIK, its not in the repos
[03:00] <holstein> maybe the creators can tell you how to include it
[03:00] <holstein> you could be talking about non repo packages
[03:13] <Guest69247> Directly from Sublime Text. It's not really a ST issue though.
[03:14] <Guest69247> Seems as if it is another case of Gnome devs pissing on standards and interoperability and stripping out XSMP support in place of their own way.
[03:14] <Guest69247> All KDE apps are detected.
[03:15] <holstein> !language | Guest69247
[03:17] <Guest69247> Sublime text is some kind of mystery hybred using gtk and custom build libs.
[03:17] <holstein> Guest69247: its not in the repos, AFAIK
[03:17] <Guest69247> No. It is self contained. Runs on all distros.
[03:18] <Guest69247> Blazing fast too.
[03:18] <holstein> Guest69247: sure.. so, its a stand alone binary, that the system isnt aware of.. theres your answer
[03:18] <holstein> you didnt install it, for the system to be aware of it.. that can be related to what you are asking about
[03:19] <Guest69247> No. I'm not just talking about sublime.
[03:19] <holstein> Guest69247: sure.. me to
[03:19] <Guest69247> Gnome has recently been stripping xsmp (x session management protocol).
[03:20] <Guest69247> All apps that don't show up are gtk-based
[03:20] <holstein> Guest69247: and, also, the ones you mention are not in the repo
[03:21] <holstein> Guest69247: but, if you feel you have a bug with gnome, i say, report it
[03:21] <Guest69247> It is not a bug. It is intentional.
[03:21] <Guest69247> They don't care about anyone not running gnome.
[03:21] <Guest69247> rolling their own
[03:22] <Guest69247> instead of following standards
[03:22] <holstein> Guest69247: cool.. sounds like you know what the issue is, then.. let a volunteer know if you have a support question.. we can use #xubuntu-offtopic for chatting about gnome
[03:23] <Guest69247> Well, I didn't know when I first posted, but researched duing the interim to find out code was intentionally removed.
[03:33] <Hudsonkem_> hello?
[03:33] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: yes..
[03:33] <holstein> to recap, you are missing the cursor.. its invisible
[03:33] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10893230/
[03:34] <Hudsonkem_> yes..
[03:34] <holstein> you are up to date with upgrades, and using *some* unknown version of xubuntu.. would you like to state that for the volunteers?
[03:35] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: what i want you to do is, note this.. http://itsfoss.com/invisible-mouse-cursor-ubuntu-1310/ and try it next time it happens, please
[03:35] <holstein> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false
[03:35] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: try that in tty, next time it happens..
[03:35] <holstein> !tty
[03:35] <holstein> or, in the GUI terminal, if you can get to it without the cursor
[03:35] <Hudsonkem_> ok
[03:37] <Hudsonkem_> so I know the basics of linux system. And you will reproduce the inssue now and try it
[03:37] <Hudsonkem_> I will*
[03:37] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: how?
[03:37] <Hudsonkem_> restart
[03:38] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: in what way to you make it happen? you stated it just happens, randomly? what do you do to make it happen?
[03:38] <Hudsonkem_> yes
[03:38] <Hudsonkem_> just reboot or turn off the computer, when I turn on it have this inssue
[03:39] <holstein> regardless of our misunderstanding each other.. do you understand the suggestion?
[03:39] <Hudsonkem_> but I noticed when load screen work with correct resolution the cursor works and when not it not
[03:40] <holstein> i also was thinking GPU driver related
[03:40] <holstein> with a dual GPU. nvidia ion, for example
[03:41] <Hudsonkem_> so. I am not installed drivers because I am using xubuntu 15.04 but it not happining on 14.10 without drivers
[03:42] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: you have not installed what drivers? the nvidia ones?
[03:42] <Hudsonkem_> intel "01.org"
[03:42] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: so the above fix doesnt address it?
[03:43] <Hudsonkem_> the driver not realised to my xubuntu version
[03:43] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: what driver?
[03:43] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: have you tried the fix? if its a driver issue, as i already suggested, the fix wont address that
[03:44] <holstein> i asked what drivers you have for the GPU before
[03:44] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: can i please help you find a native language channel?
[03:44] <Hudsonkem_> yes
[03:45] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: well, do share what language you speak, and id be glad to assist with that
[03:45] <Hudsonkem_> intel hda driver
[03:46] <Hudsonkem_> português PT
[03:46] <Hudsonkem_> português BR
[03:47] <holstein> !pt
[03:47] <Hudsonkem_> it support xubuntu too?
[03:48] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[03:48] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: its likely slow/dead, and you'll nead to email someone...
[03:48] <Hudsonkem_> but different Desktop "xfce"
[03:48] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: otherwise, try the fix i suggested, and let me know
[03:48] <holstein> Hudsonkem_: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[06:01] <rayduf> completely disable sleep/suspend mode...how?
[06:07] <mantys89> hello, is there any way change orage calendar theme to match numix color scheme???
[06:19] <eikon81g> Hey all.. Just stopping in for a quick question..
[06:19] <eikon81g> I was thinking about doing the upgrade to 15.04 should I just take the extra time and do a fresh install?
[06:21] <eikon81g> anyone experienced crazyness outside of the notes "bug"
[06:22] <mantys89> fresh install is better, but before that you can do system backup with clonezilla...
[06:23] <eikon81g> gotcha. I was thinking the same thing.. I've tweaked this install so much Idk if I will get it back how I like it so I'm squeemish..
[06:23] <eikon81g> lol
[06:25] <mantys89> xubuntu 15.04 have some bugs with lightdm-gtk-greeter, but nothing serious...
[06:28] <eikon81g> ok well that's good I have been using the terminal pm commands to suspend and reboot etc.
[06:28] <eikon81g> I don't mess with lightdm much just initial login
[06:31] <mantys89> lightdm-gtk-greeter have some problems with theming, with numix and other themes, top panel looks weird...
[06:32] <eikon81g> Ahh
[06:32] <eikon81g> well ty for the heads up..
[12:47] <xubuntu29w> hi there, trying to upgrade from xubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 using the software updater. When I click on the Upgrade ... button the software updater just quits
[12:47] <cfhowlett> xubuntu29w, try from terminal and observe error messages. sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:48] <xubuntu29w> when I start the software updater on the command line, I get: Error executing command as another user: Not authorized
[12:49] <cfhowlett> xubuntu29w, self-explanatory ... use your system admin account
[12:51] <xubuntu29w> hmm, that's weird. The sw updater comes up every day and asks me If I want to install updates. If I select yes, it asks me for my password and goes ahead and installs the updates. Why does the upgrade process behave differently?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> xubuntu29w, permissions ...
[12:53] <xubuntu29w> doing the upgrade no using sudo do-release-upgrade, but wondering why sw updater couldn't it just issue the same command?
[12:54] <xubuntu29w> thanx for your help, btw :-)
[12:55] <cfhowlett> xubuntu29w, I'd *guess* your current user is not authorized to perform an OS install. upgrading currently install software should require fewer privileges?
[12:58] <xubuntu29w> I haven't done anything special with my user. I was created during the install of xubuntu. And the same user was able to sudo do-release-upgrade on the command line, so why shouldn't he be able to do it in the UI? And even if the user didn't have the required premission, the UI should info the user about this, and not offer an upgrade button, which silently fails.
[12:58] <xubuntu29w> did you upgrade already?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> xubuntu29w, no. I only run LTS so I'm good until next year.
[13:00] <cfhowlett> xubuntu29w, as for the error, yeah, that sounds like a bug.
[13:00] <xubuntu29w> :-) ok. I was just wondering how the upgrade button behaves for other users. I'd consider the current behaviour a bug.
[13:01] <cfhowlett> agreed
[13:02] <xubuntu29w> glad, we agree :-) downloading of new version is comple. It's happily upgrading the packages now. hope it still works after reboot
[14:21] <deltaray> After upgrading to 15.04, I'm having a strange problem with screenlocks.
[14:22] <deltaray> When I lock the screen, it does lock the screen, but it just shows a blank off-white screen.
[14:22] <deltaray> To get back in, I have to click the mouse and then I see the password dialogue.
[14:22] <deltaray> Anyone else having this issue?
[14:22] <deltaray> Don't see any mention of it in the last month on a web search.
[14:23] <brainwash> deltaray: multi monitor setup?
[14:25] <brainwash> bug 1426664
[14:36] <pjotter> Hello everyone. I am experiencing a weird problem in Xubuntu 12.04 that I can't find any solution for.
[14:36] <pjotter> It concerns the placing and size of some of the popup menu's of the panel
[14:36] <pjotter> There are some applications that sometimes generate popups that seem to be mislplaced or wrongly sized.
[14:37] <pjotter> This happens a lot when the content of the popup is actively changed.
[14:38] <pjotter> For instance the network icon.. If I disable the network, some of the options in the popup will vanish, causing the popup to be smaller. If I then click on the network icon, the popup is displayed hovering above the panel
[14:38] <pjotter> However, clicking the icon again will show a correct popup
[14:39] <pjotter> Does anybody know any sollution to this? Is it a bug in xfce4?
[14:40] <brainwash> is your panel placed on the bottom?
[14:40] <pjotter> Yes it is
[14:40] <brainwash> then it is a known bug
[14:40] <brainwash> but there is no solution
[14:41] <pjotter> Ok. Do you know by what keywords I can find this bug? I have been searching but haven't found any reference to this.
[14:42] <brainwash> bug 965953
[14:42] <pjotter> brainwash: Will puuting the panel on top solve the issue?
[14:42] <brainwash> worth a try
[14:43] <pjotter> I just did... it appears to be working
[14:43] <brainwash> you could remove the indicator plugin from your panel config
[14:43] <brainwash> that way, the network applet will use the classic tray icon
[14:44] <pjotter> Well, I'd rather not... need those on a regular basis, so
[14:44] <brainwash> yeah, it would also remove the sound indicator (well, any of the unity indicators)
[14:44] <pjotter> O wait... you mean to say that the problem is caused by the indicator plugin?
[14:45] <brainwash> not directly, but the indicators themself seem to be the cause
[14:46] <brainwash> the indicator plugin is used to display these indicators
[14:46] <pjotter> Yes, the xfce4-indicator-plugin
[14:46] <brainwash> you can temporary remove it from your panel config
[14:46] <pjotter> What if I remove this thing from the panel? Will I still be able to see some of the icons that normally reside in there?
[14:47] <brainwash> test it
[14:47] <brainwash> it can be easily readded
[14:47] <pjotter> I'll do that... just a moment
[14:47] <brainwash> you may need to restart the panel with xfce4-panel -r
[15:22] <Guest96557> i bet this has been asked a couple of times, when is it possible to do an upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 with the integrated updater, since even update-manager -d does nothing
[15:26] <cq-aux> hi I've deleted something important > I can't control my laptop screen shutting actions
[15:26] <cq-aux> all I can remember removing was lightdm
[15:27] <cq-aux> now I'd like to shut the lid and have it keep running
[15:27] <cq-aux> but I've stuffed that up somehow
[15:38] <pleia2> Guest96557: you don't want to do it with -d, since 15.04 has been released and development on the next version hasn't begun, the update-manager should pick up the upgrade on its own (it does for me on all my systems)
[15:38] <Guest96557> pleia2, i tried that without the "-d" as well
[15:39] <pleia2> Guest96557: strange, might need to manually `apt-get update` on the command line if you've disabled that
[15:39] <Guest96557> i will try that
[15:39] <Guest96557> brb
[15:39] <Guest96557> ty
[18:18] <TimeVirus> I'm beginning to believe my wifi driver is crap (over time seems to be getting worse) If I sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer will it over-write what is there currently?
[18:18] <Unit193> I don't remember how the postinst script runs, but you should still have the tarball and fw-cutter, so why not just re-extract?
[18:19] <holstein> TimeVirus: you can remove what you installed before, to make sure.. you can also usually "get away" with adding those in a live iso, and testing.. personally, i'll just pull them out, and swap the hardware, since, i find the cost so low to replace, and give me a much easier time in the OS i choose to use
[18:19] <holstein> though, i agree with Unit193 ^
[18:20] <holstein> personally, i'll try all options i can.. even the windows driver in ndiswrapper.. i'll test a bit, and then, replace the hardware if i cant find something acceptably stable
[18:26] <TimeVirus> I sure hope I dont run into this crud with intel 6205 wifi
[18:27] <holstein> when you have the opportunity, buy with linux support in mind
[18:29] <TimeVirus> intel is not ?
[18:30] <holstein> TimeVirus: anything can be.. intel just makes hardware.. if someone, such as intel, specifically provides linux support, thats great
[18:30] <TimeVirus> intel make drivers as well as hw, no?
[18:31] <holstein> TimeVirus: ask them.. they (intel) typically support linux.. but, if they dont, they dont.. and, with some hardware they dont
[18:31] <TimeVirus> dont the maunafcturers of some given hardware make the drivers?
[18:31] <holstein> the issue is, just buying some hardware, of any manufacturer, and expecting linux to "just work"
[18:32] <TimeVirus> so I need to learn how to write my own driver. But that is not legal most of the time, right?
[18:32] <holstein> i find it helpful to, before purchase, do some research, and see where the linux support is, if at all. and try to make sure i can return the hardware if it doenst work for my needs
[18:32] <holstein> TimeVirus: legal? to write software?
[18:32] <TimeVirus> drivers
[18:32] <TimeVirus> firmware
[18:32] <holstein> TimeVirus: it would likely be illegal to see a driver like that, in some way
[18:32] <holstein> but, you wont make a "better" driver than what is already out there
[18:32] <holstein> the issue is, maybe, as in your case, thats the "best" driver option there is
[18:33] <holstein> linux isnt doing anything to prevent broadcom from making a driver.. but, if they dont, and they also dont provide information that allows a community member, or another company to, then, the support can be with compromise, or non-existent
[18:33] <TimeVirus> so were is the DB that would tell me if some given hw has linux driver?
[18:33] <holstein> TimeVirus: ideally, each manufacturer would provide that
[18:34] <holstein> TimeVirus: and, they actually do.. its just empty for most, since, they dont provide *any* linux support
[18:34] <holstein> TimeVirus: all im saying is, it can be beneficial to ask the question *before* getting hardware.. and expect linux support from the manufacturer
[18:34] <TimeVirus> ask who?
[18:34] <holstein> TimeVirus: the creator of the hardware
[18:35] <holstein> TimeVirus: linux is completely open. .anyone can choose to support it.. if they dont, then, it can be problematic for the end user trying to use it
[18:37] <holstein> all im suggesting is, take the responsiblilty on. try and not approach it like "well, im going to buy something that specifically states support for windows and OSX on the box, and i certainly hope linux supports it".. take a step back at that point, and check for a linux supported device
[18:37] <bazhang> device id ubuntu <--- thats the search term I use
[18:38] <bazhang> if the only listing are in hindi on a google search, then dont buy it
[18:38] <holstein> yup. or "linux".. or "debian".. all of that can be relevant.. but, its handy to do that before purchase, or make sure you can return the device
[18:38] <holstein> since, you are not promised linux support..
[18:39] <holstein> the chipsets can change, as well.. all the manufacturer has to do is provide the drivers they promise.. and if the chipset changes, you *could* read, certain device works in ubuntu.. but, the *same* device doenst for you and others
[18:39] <holstein> being specific with the device ID helps with that ^
[18:39] <bazhang> even companies that DO write device drivers, like certain NIC devices, dont always do a good job of it
[18:39] <holstein> yup.. :/
[18:40] <holstein> i find, its "better" with ones that just provide information
[18:40] <bazhang> ralink comes to mind
[18:41] <bazhang> research first always
[18:41] <holstein> sometimes, you get handed hardware.. and thats fine. but, you cant expect magic from linux.. linux is not able to facilitate its support onto all devices
[18:42] <holstein> those companies pay folks to make and test drivers and software for the operating systems they promise support for.. we take that responsibility on ourselves when we run another OS on the hardware and support it ourselves
[20:04] <oddi> hi, is there a non pae iso of xubuntu available for download?
[20:05] <Unit193> There are only PAE and 64bit images.
[20:05] <oddi> guess i'm stuck with 12.04 then :/
[20:06] <oddi> thanks anyways
[20:06] <Unit193> oddi: What processor/
[20:07] <oddi> 2 sec, let me check
[20:07] <oddi> pentium m
[20:07] <Unit193> There's a chance you can use forcepae=1
[20:08] <oddi> i'll give it a try, thanks :)
[20:08] <Unit193> Good luck.
[20:12] <oddi> it worked, thanks alot
[20:12] <Unit193> Great.
[21:06] <xubuntu93w> Hi all! I need some help after upgrading to Vivid Vervet. Switching to Console mode (CTRL-ALT-F1, CTRL-ALT-F2...) is no longer working, as screns stay completely black. Any ideas please?
[21:29] <sky1215> hello everyone i'm new to xubuntu
[21:29] <sky1215> so far i like it
[21:29] <knome> glad to hear
[21:30] <sky1215> i like it better than regular ubuntu. It seems lighter and faster
[21:30] <sky1215> so is this the official support channel?
[21:30] <sky1215> for tech support or is this general chat channel?
[21:30] <knome> as the topic says, this is the support channel
[21:31] <knome> general chatter at #xubuntu-offtopic
[21:31] <sky1215> oh sorry didn't see that
[21:31] <sky1215> ok
[21:31] <sky1215> thnx
[21:32] <sky1215> how can i register my nick?
[21:33] <knome> !register | sky1215
[21:34] <sky1215> ok thanks so much
[22:54] <yousir> How do i change the "Whisker Menu" style, to the more minimal one, without the search bar?
[22:56] <Unit193> Remove whisker from the panel, add "Applications menu"
[22:57] <yousir> Unit193:Thanks dude! :)
[22:58] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[23:01] <pjotter> could someone explain: What is the difference between the panel notification area and the xfce4-indicator-plugin? Why do some icons appear in the notification area and others as an icon in the indicator area?
[23:02] <Unit193> Because some are indicators, some are tray icons.
[23:03] <deltaray> brainwash: By the way, it was the bug with the multi monitor setup. Sorry, got called away from the discussion.
[23:03] <pjotter> Ok, so what exactly is an 'indicator'?
[23:04] <pjotter> I use, for instance, the app. 'radiotray'. If I run it, it appears as an icon in the indicator area?
[23:06] <pjotter> But if I run the taskmanager, it appears in the notification area.
[23:34] <knome> pjotter, some applications provide indicators, others tray icons
[23:35] <knome> pjotter, they look and feel more or less the same for the end user
[23:52] <pjotter> knome. Yes, indeed. Hence, my question. Thanks for the answer.
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[00:09] * zmoylan-pi tests if it was the iron enriched corn by preparing the giant acme magnet...
[00:09] * daftykins slides along the ground toward zmoylan-pi
[00:09] <zmoylan-pi> thank goodness for free shipping :-P
[00:10] * zmoylan-pi reverses the polarity at the thought of daftykins approaching...
[00:10] <daftykins> ;_;
[00:11] * zmoylan-pi puts out free bagels to console daftykins
[00:13] <daftykins> and treats for my cat? she was in my arms at the time
[00:14] <zmoylan-pi> she's a cat, she'll want some of whatever you're eating right up to the point of eating it.
[00:15] <daftykins> :>
[00:16] <penguin42> perhaps she'll eat the holes
[00:18] <zmoylan-pi> of course some cats love cheese
[00:18] <daftykins> o0
[00:19] <daftykins> she decorated the floor around me whilst i was poised on the tip of my sofa playing a game online with friends, Friday night
[00:19] <daftykins> i could only reach to push her off the rug at least :P
[00:19] <zmoylan-pi> and one of our cats adored porridge
[00:19] <zmoylan-pi> warm milky porridge
[00:25] <zmoylan-pi> perfect brekkie before a long morning snooze
[00:28] <penguin42> which lasts until lunch
[00:34] <zmoylan-pi> then a light lunch preceding the afternoon snooze
[00:40] <penguin42> which lasts until dinner
[00:41] <zmoylan-pi> or tea time depending on wether you're working class/middle class
[00:42] <zmoylan-pi> then if it's winter camping out to sleep as close to fireplace as is possible
[00:43] <penguin42> yep, my type of life
[00:44] <zmoylan-pi> i swear if the fireplace we had didn't have a glass door on the front she'd have climbed in sometimes
[00:45] <zmoylan-pi> she sat so close that her nose had a tiny scar from touching the glass when she started to doze off
[00:45] <penguin42> haha
[00:46] <daftykins> :D d'aww
[00:46] <zmoylan-pi> then after her fur got too hot to touch she'd fall asleep under sofa till she cooled down
[00:46] <zmoylan-pi> she was basically a huge heat sink in the house... :-)
[00:47] <daftykins> gah just missed a photo op of my cat using the TV remotes as a pillow
[00:47] <daftykins> :D
[06:37] <Knightwise> morning everyone
[08:36] <TheProphet[S]> Good morning all
[08:37] <TheProphet[S]> Anyone can help me understand why I have to boot in recovery mode and then resume normal boot to be able to start X in Ubuntu 15.04? If I start without the recovery step the screen remains blank
[08:38] <TheProphet[S]> Can anyone* and please*
[08:43] <TheProphet[S]> I guess it's a bit early on a Sunday to start asking that sort of question
[09:22] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[11:31] <TheProphet[S]> Testing Bioshock infinite on 15.04 after update, if I manage to start the system
[11:32] <TheProphet[S]> It worked at first, although I'm not sure how it managed to send the output onto the hdmi even though analogue was selected
[11:32] <TheProphet[S]> I then quit the game and fiddled with the sound settings, restarted the game and Pc froze
[11:34] <TheProphet[S]> After a hard reboot video output is not visible, I can reboot by going to a tty, I don't see anything though, I just remember the sequence
[11:37] <TheProphet[S]> Then I boot into recovery mode, select resume normal boot and video starts like nothing ever happened. Is there a logical explanation to this?
[11:37] <TheProphet[S]> If I select normal boot procedure from Grub I just get a black screen
[11:39] <TheProphet[S]> Perhaps logic died with Leonard Nimoy
[11:40] <TheProphet[S]> Anyways someone yesterday asked if Bioshock infinite worked after 15.04 update, the answer is yes
[11:41] <TheProphet[S]> Although it freezes it seems
[11:42] <brobostigon> ST4 5* 13:15
[11:46] <TheProphet[S]> After a few seconds of game play,
[11:47] <TheProphet[S]> It froze and I had to reboot
[12:23] <penguin42> Jessie seems to work
[12:27] <ali1234> in general or for bioshock infinite?
[12:30] <penguin42> generally
[12:30] <ali1234> i just saw someone say that NFS mounts don't work properly
[12:30] <penguin42> perfectly normal behaviour for NFS
[12:31] <ali1234> but that was on raspberry pi so who knows what hacked up version they are using
[12:31] <ali1234> well DBTS says it is supposed to be fixed
[12:31] <ali1234> or are you just making a joke about NFS being rubbish?
[12:31] <penguin42> well, it's not rubbish, but it does seem to need some TLC to keep it happy
[12:32] <ali1234> this appears to specifically be the issue where systemd can't mount remote filesystems from fstab
[12:33] <penguin42> ah, using systemd automount or explicit mounts?
[12:33] <ali1234> having NFS mounts in /etc/fstab which work fine, until you upgrade to jessie, and then they don't
[12:33] <penguin42> ah
[12:34] <ali1234> but as i said, raspi, so it's probably hacked up
[12:34] <shauno> I haven't touched jessie yet. I'm a little paranoid about migrating non-systemd boxes to systemd when I can't physically reach them to mop up
[12:34] <ali1234> i can't decide whether to go 15.04 or jessie
[12:34] <ali1234> i'm on 14.04 at the moment
[12:34] <penguin42> ali1234: I'm not sure what the debian story is for Pi, it might be supported?
[12:35] <ali1234> if i go 15.04 i'm stuck on the upgrade train until the next LTS
[12:35] <shauno> I suspect my task for the next few days is going to be duping them into VMs so I can play in a sandpit
[12:36] <ali1234> penguin42: the debian story is "use raspbian" - which is basically a full rebuild of everything with a different arch
[12:37] <ali1234> you can use debian armel i think, if you don't care it's not optimized
[12:37] <penguin42> ali1234: nod, I suspect the Pi2 is less hastle because it's a newer CPU, but I've not followed the Pi much
[12:37] <ali1234> right, the pi2 can run armhf so debian or ubuntu properly optimized
[12:38] <ali1234> the pi1 is stuck with debian's lowest common denominator and cannot run ubuntu at all. hence raspbian
[12:39] <ali1234> however they all have the same crazy bootloader stuff which requires non-trivial modification to the OS
[12:39] <penguin42> nod
[12:41] <penguin42> yeh but that stuff is fairly isolated; most of the userland packages after bootsetup should be OK
[12:42] <shauno> I think that meshes with what I tend to see - people boot raspbian, and then add jessie sources
[12:44] <penguin42> generally on ARM stuff, once you get a fairly modern kernel running you can just slap your favorite userspace in; debootstrap being the easiest thing to do
[12:45] <ali1234> but generally on ARM stuff you are tied to an ancient BSP which makes that impossible
[12:47] <penguin42> yeh, it depends how new your userspace wants; pre systemd you could get away with a fairly old kernel
[13:40] <bashrc> ali1234: whether you go to jessie or 15.04 depends on whether you need recent package versions and don't mind upgrading every 6 months. I use Debian on the server and have been on Jessie for quite a while
[13:41] <ali1234> i don't want to upgrade every six months
[13:41] <ali1234> i want nvidia binary driver to work easily and be able to play games on steam
[13:41] <bashrc> then I'd stick with debian or ubuntu LTS
[13:41] <ali1234> yes, which?
[13:42] <bashrc> depends which you prefer. Is this for desktop or server?
[13:42] <ali1234> desktop
[13:42] <bashrc> with desktop I'd go for ubuntu LTS
[13:42] <ali1234> i prefer ubuntu but i need newer packages than 14.04 has
[13:42] <bashrc> then you have the stability of an LTS, put also with the option to use PPAs
[13:43] <ali1234> i don't care about stability
[13:43] <ali1234> i just don't want to upgrade all the time
[13:43] <ali1234> by upgrade i mean distro upgrade
[13:44] <bashrc> if you really don't care about stability then a rolling release like Arch might be the thing. I don't have any experience on that though
[13:45] <ali1234> is there a rolling release distro that doesn't break every day worse than debian unstable?
[13:45] <ali1234> arch is not it
[13:45] <ali1234> rolling release appears to be an excuse not to ever test releases
[13:46] <bashrc> from my limited experience of rolling releases I think breakages are common. So going with an ubuntu LTS would seem to fit the requirements
[13:46] <bashrc> then if you need very recent packages you can probably just use a PPA
[13:46] <ali1234> yes, except there won't be another one of those for 12 months
[13:46] <ali1234> the newer packages i need include systemd
[13:47] <bashrc> ah, currently I don't think the ubuntu LTS uses systemd, although it might be possible to install it
[13:47] <ali1234> it doesn't and it isn't
[13:47] <ali1234> let me boil it right down to basics
[13:48] <ali1234> i want systemd, nvidia driver, steam, recent xorg, xfce 4.12 all working out of the box, and two years support
[13:48] <ali1234> also the moon on a stick
[13:48] * DJones joking point ali1234 to ##windows :)
[13:49] <DJones> How does steamos deal with that
[13:49] <bashrc> I don't know what xfce version jessie uses, but that requirements list sounds in jessie territory
[13:49] <ali1234> well it doesn't have xfce 4.12 that's for sure
[13:50] <ali1234> jessie has xfce 4.10 still, but that i can deal with
[13:50] <ali1234> bigger issue is does nvidia driver work properly yet with a decently new version?
[13:50] <penguin42> ali1234: Hmm, the current LTS should get the new kernel/X in 6 months if they follow the previous pattern of hardware support
[13:50] <ali1234> last time i tried debian it was a year behind and you had to install it manually
[13:50] <ali1234> penguin42: but not systemd
[13:51] <ali1234> i don't care about kernel at all ...
[13:51] <ali1234> X is meh... as long as it has present
[13:51] <penguin42> ali1234: Well, fedora 22 gives you latest kernel, systemd, and X - but not the 2 year support
[13:52] <ali1234> also RPM is horrible
[13:52] <penguin42> yeh, I want to see what snappy is like
[13:53] <ali1234> last time i tried an rpm distro it was impossible to build any of the packages from source without exactly duplicating the build server
[13:53] <penguin42> that's actually not that hard, I've got the hang of rpmbuild
[13:54] <bashrc> I wrote a packaging system called packagemonkey which does rpm
[13:55] <ali1234> oh sure, rpmbuild. should have worked, it just didn't
[13:56] <ali1234> does it still try to build everything in hardcoded paths under your home directory that you have to rm -rf between every package to stop them conflicting?
[13:56] <bashrc> probably, but my packaging system handles all that drudge work
[13:57] <ali1234> rpm already has a tool that does that - it makes a chroot, installs all dependencies in it, then builds the package with rpmbuild
[13:57] <diddledan> howdo
[13:57] <penguin42> ali1234: almost, it's not quite hard coded but you can change it in a dot file; on one machine I have the %_topdir changed to build it elsewhere
[13:57] <ali1234> and it didn't work properly either
[13:58] <ali1234> well i think it goes without saying that rpm is off the table
[13:58] <ali1234> the question is do i stay on 14.04, install 15.04, or jessie?
[13:59] <bashrc> if you need systemd then it's either 15.04 or jessie
[13:59] <ali1234> yeah
[13:59] <bashrc> 15.04 might give you a newer xfce
[13:59] <penguin42> ali1234: jessie isn't going to get you latest
[13:59] <ali1234> don't need latest, just newer than 14.04
[14:00] <penguin42> ali1234: Have you tried installing 14.04.2 - it will give you a different kernel/X than a 14.04 install unless you change the hardware support packages
[14:00] <ali1234> i don't want a newer kernel
[14:01] <penguin42> so what is it you want that's newer?
[14:01] <ali1234> systemd
[14:01] <penguin42> ah
[14:01] <penguin42> then you need 15.04
[14:01] <ali1234> or jessie, as we have established :)
[14:03] <ali1234> i think it has to be 15.04 really
[14:03] <ali1234> i bet debian doesn't have all the ubuntu gnome patches that make gnome software not suck on all other desktops
[14:03] <penguin42> although debian's gnome isn't that new, so maybe it's less of a problem?
[14:04] <ali1234> it's been a problem since at least 3.12
[14:04] <penguin42> ah ok
[14:05] <bashrc> I think jessie uses gnome 3.14
[14:05] <ali1234> it does
[14:05] <penguin42> yeh
[14:10] <penguin42> ali1234: which desktop do you use and which gnome apps do you use with it?
[14:10] <ali1234> xfce and the pdf viewer
[14:11] <penguin42> ali1234: Yeh I've switched to xfce, but I tend to use KDE's pdf viewer, okular
[14:12] <ali1234> i've got a question
[14:12] <ali1234> why is it when you see screenshots of KDE software, they never ever use oxygen, and always use that theme that looks like gtk?
[14:13] <ali1234> https://okular.kde.org/images/screenies/okular-backend-pdf-1.png
[14:13] <penguin42> because oxygen is really really screwed up ?
[14:13] <ali1234> right. so why was it the default for so long?
[14:14] <penguin42> well it's quite nice look, but the oxygen-gtk renderer just causes so many random bugs
[14:14] <ali1234> oxygen looks awful
[14:14] <penguin42> ok ok, it's a theme
[14:14] <ali1234> it makes everything look slapped together
[14:15] <ali1234> it looks awful for entirely objective reasons
[14:15] * penguin42 is still looking for a compact gtk theme to use in xfce
[14:15] <ali1234> which can't be fixed due to the way Qt works
[14:15] <ali1234> what do you mean by "compact"?
[14:16] <penguin42> ali1234: I find the 'tabs' and buttons tend to use a lot of vertical space
[14:16] <penguin42> ali1234: It annoys me most on terminals, where the tab switching at the bottom takes a couple of rows space up
[14:17] <ali1234> then don't use tabs? use separate windows?
[14:18] * penguin42 likes tabs
[14:18] <ali1234> there's this thing called a taskbar where every window is a tab
[14:18] <ali1234> and you can put it anywhere on the screen that you want. imagine that!
[14:18] * penguin42 scatters terminals everywhere each with a few tabs in
[14:18] * penguin42 would just like his tabs to be a little less podgie
[14:18] <ali1234> what terminal?
[14:19] <penguin42> ali1234: I think it's the same on both terminator and xfce-terminal
[14:19] <ali1234> yeah it is
[14:19] <ali1234> oh, have you set "force dpi" to 96 dpi?
[14:20] <ali1234> that is essential
[14:20] <penguin42> yeh I'm pretty sure I've got that
[14:20] <ali1234> and set font size to 11 pt?
[14:23] <penguin42> see http://imagebin.ca/v/1zfYH9sBBh5a
[14:23] <ali1234> what have you done...
[14:23] <penguin42> haha
[14:23] <ali1234> the tabs are the only thing in that picture that is the correct size
[14:24] <penguin42> it's microcurve title bar theme, so that's nice and small, I've got a nice small font in the terminal - and these *HUGE* tabs
[14:25] <ali1234> just set the system font to like 7 pt
[14:25] <penguin42> but there seems to be so much padding around the text
[14:25] <ali1234> yes, because without that it looks awful
[14:25] <penguin42> (Default font is Sans 9)
[14:25] <ali1234> without that padding it will look like KDE
[14:26] <ali1234> where everything is squashed together and unreadable
[14:26] <penguin42> well, I would like it a bit more squashed, like the title
[14:26] <penguin42> it's readable but with no extra space
[14:26] <ali1234> window borders are just bitmaps in xfwm
[14:27] <ali1234> you will have to hack the gtk theme to get less padding on elements
[14:27] <ali1234> it is written in css for gtk3 and something else for gtk2
[14:27] <penguin42> yeh, as I say, (15:15:18) ***penguin42 is still looking for a compact gtk theme to use in xfce
[14:27] <ali1234> and the css version breaks with every gtk release and someone has to spend several hours fixing it
[14:28] <ali1234> gtk themes pretty much don't exist any more because of this
[14:28] <penguin42> a sad state of affairs
[14:28] <ali1234> xfce has dropped all themes except for greybird and numix
[14:28] <penguin42> brb
[14:31] <ali1234> i would switch to KDE if they made a decent theme
[14:31] <ali1234> the new thing unfortunately does not seem to have fixed any of the alignment issues
[14:32] <ali1234> they did at least get rid of the gradients and boxes everywhere though, so that's something
[14:33] <ali1234> maybe i should make a kde theme
[14:35] <penguin42> ali1234: I've just switched to xfce from KDE, I can't stand KDE5
[14:36] <ali1234> why? it's just the same thing with a much better theme
[14:37] <ali1234> i would probably have to nuke the plasma trash though, and just run xfce panel or something
[14:38] <penguin42> KDE without plasma? Sounds an odd thing to do
[14:39] <diddledan> kde3 was where it was at
[14:39] <diddledan> I liked kde3
[14:39] <ali1234> i think the pdf viewer might be the only app i use which is part of a "desktop environment"
[14:39] <penguin42> diddledan: Yeh
[14:40] <diddledan> the switch between kde3 and 4 was jarring
[14:40] <penguin42> diddledan: I went KDE3->Gnome (2?)->KDE4 (after about 4 years with Gnome2)
[14:40] <diddledan> like "wtf did you do?!"
[14:40] <penguin42> diddledan: Yeh, KDE5 is like that now
[14:40] <ali1234> http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/094/9/b/kde_5_mockup_2_0_by_linix_arts-d7cyuh7.png
[14:40] <diddledan> it was because of kde4 that I went ubuntu
[14:40] <ali1234> this is hilarious
[14:41] <ali1234> arn't mock ups supposed to look *good*?
[14:41] <ali1234> at least they fixed the clock
[14:41] <diddledan> the colours in that are evil
[14:42] <diddledan> green "spotify" followedby "now playing" in white?!
[14:42] <ali1234> now this, this looks good: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CBOhh_ywz1c/VH2TB-RMgKI/AAAAAAAAJyg/ZwiOjKgD-uo/s1600/Manjaro%2B0.8.11.jpg
[14:42] <diddledan> not just green but luminous green
[14:42] <ali1234> i'm not even sure if that is KDE
[14:43] <diddledan> it really annoys me that anything running on kde MUST have a badly placed K in the name
[14:44] <diddledan> oKular
[14:44] <ali1234> i don't mind that
[14:44] <diddledan> and that example with "piKture"
[14:45] <diddledan> and "Kontrol Panel" <-- why can't they call that "K Control Panel"?
[14:46] <ali1234> oh wow that manjaro screenshot is xfce
[14:46] <ali1234> i knew it was too good to be true
[16:55] <daftykins> just been to that castle mountain bikin' event
[16:55] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/15m8ehwwbwjo6nn/AACwtdSjK7Nc0HdIyNmedjx6a?dl=0
[17:13] <shauno> you appear to have borrowed our weather
[17:14] <shauno> (no rush returning it btw, I'm getting kinda used to this bright light)
[17:17] <daftykins> shauno: :D
[17:17] <daftykins> foggy this morn, windy and 10 deg C this afty
[17:21] <shauno> we've had pretty much continuous sun. a bit grayer today, but still totally passable.
[17:21] <shauno> went up to dublin yesterday, got soaked to the skin, and promptly left again
[17:23] <diddledan> shauno: you're lying
[17:23] <diddledan> shauno: ireland doesn't have sun!
[17:23] <shauno> norly!
[17:23] <diddledan> serials?
[17:24] <penguin42> shauno: the sun seems to be over here today
[17:27] <shauno> http://i.imgur.com/APkPbeF.jpg (just to add further shock, I've even been outside)
[17:29] <diddledan> I call shenanigans - that's america
[17:29] <shauno> lol
[17:29] <diddledan> nowai is ireland that pretty!
[17:31] <diddledan> so my masculinity extensions are installed into my NAS
[17:31] <diddledan> I now have 7TEEBEEs to play with
[17:32] <shauno> proofs it's not america - they wouldn't consider that a road, let alone a 2-lane road - http://i.imgur.com/ahvy6TB.jpg
[17:33] <diddledan> no wonder the post office doesn't believe you exist
[17:34] <daftykins> crikey that's a main road :P
[17:34] <diddledan> lol
[17:34] <daftykins> can get two horse and carts going opposite ways down that easy ;)
[17:35] <diddledan> clickity clack over the bridge. and out pops the troll and tries to eat it.
[17:36] <diddledan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Billy_Goats_Gruff
[17:37] <shauno> we actually have carts here :/ well, they call them 'traps'
[17:38] <shauno> had a friend over from slovakia for the week .. she was quite surprised to see them around and about town
[17:39] <shauno> also surprised to see people park their houses on random bits of commanage
[17:39] <daftykins> :D
[17:39] <shauno> got me thinking, it kinda says something when a slovakian thinks your city is "cute but kinda backwards"
[17:39] <daftykins> big alarm bells start sounding, then you know you have to hit the pub yep
[17:40] <daftykins> but these city folk know not what they see ;)
[17:40] <shauno> lol .. well this is ireland's 3rd biggest city :)
[17:40] <diddledan> I like that they actually admit that they're "traps"
[17:40] <shauno> (or 4th .. galway and limerick seem to have some kind of dispute over that)
[17:41] <diddledan> www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA
[17:41] <daftykins> fine Irish fellow there
[17:45] <diddledan> he may have been in the sunbed a bit too long - he looks like a lobster now
[17:45] <shauno> well, this will be fun. I have to knock up a new front panel for something, but the only ruler I can find is old & snapped. so I have about 7cm to work with
[17:45] <diddledan> 3inches ought to be enough for anyone
[17:46] <diddledan> or is that 640KB?
[17:46] <daftykins> i do loathe those ancient and out of context quotes
[17:46] <daftykins> sounds a bit too much like newbies going "hur hur, things change as time passes"
[17:46] <daftykins> http://wccftech.com/intels-6th-generation-skylake-s-processor-lineup-leaked-core-i7-6700k-leads-pack-10-skus-detailed-samples-spotted/
[17:46] <daftykins> got linked to this earlier 0o
[17:47] <daftykins> 4GHz at last
[17:47] <diddledan> I thought intel believed that 4GHz was a myth
[17:48] <shauno> picked this up - http://www.ebay.ie/itm/141361319227 there seems to be 1001 people selling it, and no-one giving a proper set of dimensions :(
[17:48] <penguin42> sigh - I want more cores, give me 8 core, 3.5GHz and I'll be happy
[17:48] <daftykins> isn't that what Haswell-E is, penguin42 ? logical cores anyway
[17:49] <diddledan> shauno: doesn't this count: External dimension: width=220mm Height=52mm depth = 226mm?
[17:49] <shauno> it's not really enough .. I need to know what screws go in the front, and how far from the corners they are
[17:49] <penguin42> daftykins: Haswell-E is I think 6 core, so getting there - but still - come on!
[17:49] <penguin42> daftykins: I think they're upto 15 core in Xeon
[17:50] <diddledan> penguin42: you want 8 full cores or 4 with hypernuts?
[17:50] <penguin42> diddledan: I want my full 8 full cores, none of this hypernuts
[17:50] <daftykins> haha
[17:50] <diddledan> so you want 16 hyperspaces?
[17:51] <penguin42> diddledan: I've got a 5 year old 4 core 2.8GHz i7 here - why bother upgrading? Sure it'll be a bit faster clock/clock - but not vastly
[17:51] <diddledan> I've got an AMD 8core
[17:51] <penguin42> diddledan: Meh, 16 hypernuts would be nice, but it's the cores I really want
[17:51] <penguin42> diddledan: No, you've got an AMD 4 core with their equivalent of HT
[17:51] <daftykins> i don't think i'd buy AMD.
[17:51] <diddledan> penguin42: it's not the same as FTL
[17:51] <penguin42> diddledan: They share chunks between their cores, they're not really 8 independent cores
[17:52] <diddledan> penguin42: it's only the Integer unit that's shared
[17:52] <penguin42> diddledan: Other way, I think it's only the fp unit that's shared
[17:52] <diddledan> the actual guts is all independant
[17:52] <penguin42> still, I want 8 real independent cores
[17:52] <diddledan> it can drive non arithmetic stuff at 8 independance
[17:53] <penguin42> true, I'd rather have 16 cores that are independent, but I'll settle with 8
[17:53] <penguin42> maybe I'd even have a broken 16 core with say 13 cores
[17:53] <daftykins> heh
[17:53] <daftykins> fail-binned
[17:54] <penguin42> yeh, give me 13 cores, I'll be happy
[17:54] * penguin42 uses a machine with 2x6 cores as one of his dev boxes at work; very nice
[17:55] <penguin42> but I'm just bored with Intel not pulling their fingers out for years
[17:55] <shauno> did those omgcores arm boxes ever happen?
[17:55] <penguin42> shauno: They apparently exist but I can't find any to buy - the Cavium ThunderX
[17:55] <diddledan> shauno: the orangebox?
[17:55] <daftykins> why should intel work when AMD suck so hard :(
[17:55] <shauno> nah, I think the orangebox was a bunch of mini intels shoved in one chassis
[17:56] <diddledan> shauno: I think canonical moved away from arm for those replacing them with intels
[17:56] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh exactly
[17:56] <penguin42> daftykins: The problem is Intel just have a very very sharp pin on their chip making equipment, and until AMDs fabs catch up they don't stand much of a chance
[17:56] <daftykins> well that and they don't have fabs :>
[17:57] <daftykins> their designs haven't done too well for a while now too
[17:57] <daftykins> i'd love them to come back (AMD) it'd be great to have true competition again
[17:57] <directhex_> AMD no longer have any dazzle
[17:57] <daftykins> ok i've gotta head out, ttfn \o
[17:57] <directhex_> when was the last time they competed?
[17:57] <daftykins> probably Athlon64 time
[17:57] <directhex_> athlon fx!
[17:57] <penguin42> daftykins: oh yeh, they sold them off to Global foundaries I think?
[17:57] <diddledan> directhex_: back in the 90s they were topdog with the k6-2
[17:58] <directhex_> i had a duron once
[17:58] <directhex_> and athlon64
[17:58] <daftykins> Athlon XP mobile was where it was at ;)
[17:58] <shauno> my amd 486 was smoking. 120MHz 486.
[17:58] * penguin42 had a dual Athlon at one point
[17:58] <penguin42> Athlon MP
[17:58] <directhex_> i7 is fine for me
[17:58] <diddledan> I think they stopped being truly competitive when they no-longer used an "intel equivalence value" in their marketing
[17:59] <directhex_> i think it was the APU days
[18:00] <directhex_> i lost track totally of their sockets, they had like 3 different sockets on the go at once, mostly differentiated by whether the onboard gfx was dire or merely bad
[18:00] <directhex_> i still don't understand amd sockets
[18:01] <diddledan> the AM sockets seem to be backward compatible?
[18:01] <diddledan> e.g. I believe AM3+ can run a processor designed for AM3 or AM2
[18:01] <directhex_> socket am1, fm2, fm2+, and am3+, for desktops
[18:01] <diddledan> (the + is important for omgcores apparently?)
[18:01] <directhex_> all the motherboards are from 2011 too
[18:02] <diddledan> yeah they haven't released a new chipset in forever
[18:02] <directhex_> and their top-end cpu will burn a hole through your floor. 220W!
[18:02] <diddledan> all the recent mobos have been rehashes of existing ones with an efi instead of bios
[18:17] <diddledan> bashrc: you enjoying the yoyo experience?
[20:01] <daftykins> must be the BT effect :D
[20:04] <penguin42> diddledan: They need EFI/GPT partitions to do big disks
[20:10] <daftykins> AMD chipsets went pretty bad for a while
[20:14] <shauno> I gave up on amd when Apple declared Intel the one true saviour (for now)
[20:14] <shauno> which would be funnier if it wasn't true.
[20:16] <ali1234> i was looking at CPUs the other day and it looks like the most expensive AMD CPU is the same price as the cheapest Intel CPU
[20:16] <ali1234> at around £250
[20:16] <penguin42> they have to to get the performance close
[20:16] <daftykins> surely that's not a cheapest
[20:17] <penguin42> no, you can get Intel for about £40
[20:18] <directhex_> you can get a socket-1150 intel for £33.70 delivered
[20:18] <directhex_> dual core 2.4ghz
[20:18] <ali1234> celeron, yes
[20:18] <ali1234> i only looked at quad core cpus
[20:19] <daftykins> i don't buy anything below an i3 :>
[20:19] <penguin42> ali1234: Actually, you're not trying on the AMDs - http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-3rd-gen-opteron-6380-cpu-abu-dhabi-16-core-s-g34-%28lga-1944%29-25ghz-8mb-x-2-l3-cache-115w-without-
[20:19] <ali1234> and it was around £150
[20:19] <ali1234> yeah i didn't look at opteron/xeon either
[20:19] * penguin42 bets that's 2 chips in one package
[20:20] <daftykins> save on the heating next winter!
[20:20] <directhex_> 115W is low for AMD
[20:20] <directhex_> they have 220W chips
[20:21] <ali1234> the cheapest haswell i5 is about the same price as the most expensive amd fx
[20:21] <daftykins> an FX line is still going? crikey
[20:22] <ali1234> well, what is AMDs CPU for the high end consumer these days?
[20:22] <daftykins> i don't have a clue of their lineup at all since i don't tend to consider them even worthy of checking
[20:22] <ali1234> AMD A?
[20:23] <directhex_> they don't have one
[20:23] <directhex_> they literally don't make high end consumer chips. the highest end they ever made is still the fx 9590, which is old
[20:23] <directhex_> http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4440-vs-AMD-FX-9590
[20:24] <directhex_> but you need to add the cost of a liquid cooling system to the amd
[20:26] <directhex_> whereas the i5 haswell comes with a functional cooler
[20:26] <directhex_> since it's 84W vs 220W
[20:26] <daftykins> :S
[20:26] <directhex_> and you *officially* can't run the 9590 off air, according to amd (results may vary in real life)
[20:27] <directhex_> they sell a rebranded asetek AIO water cooler w/ 120mm radiator, the "amd fx-series liquid cooling system"
[20:27] <ali1234> how much is it?
[20:27] <directhex_> struggling to find it in the UK. equivalents are about 40-45 quid
[20:28] <ali1234> the chip is £170 less than the intel chip in your comparison
[20:29] <directhex_> Intel Core i5 4440 Processor Haswell is £144, AMD FX 9590 Processor - 8 Core is £181
[20:29] <directhex_> that's top of the range amd vs cheapest quadcore intel, as requested
[20:29] <directhex_> so add a £40 cooler to that and it's £220 vs £144
[20:30] <directhex_> we could compare a £144 amd? or a £220 intel? what would you prefer?
[20:31] <ali1234> how about FX 8370E (95W - £142) vs the £144 haswell?
[20:32] <directhex_> http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4440-vs-AMD-FX-8370E says ~identical in the aggregate. intel better at single core, amd better at threaded (4 core vs 8 core)
[20:32] <ali1234> figures
[20:35] <directhex_> this is sorta AMD's problem. i had £300 to spend on a processor. amd don't make a processor to appeal to me. the intel i bought wipes the floor with the best amd on the market, in every measure except maybe "value for money"
[20:35] <ali1234> yeah, i agree, that's kinda my point
[20:36] <ali1234> AMD FX run from £60 - £180, intel i5 to i7 runs from £140 to £900
[20:37] <directhex_> only 900?
[20:37] <ali1234> 839 seems to be the most expensive before you get to xeons
[20:38] <directhex_> bargain! should have got one of those
[20:38] <directhex_> ;)
[20:38] <directhex_> witcher 2 seems okay on ultra graphics settings on linux. that's good.
[20:42] <daftykins> did you solve your 15.04 Bioshock issues?
[20:42] <directhex_> not yet
[20:51] <ali1234> who else other than asus makes motherboards with all 4-pin fan connectors?
[20:52] <ali1234> seems like everyone else just has it for the CPU fan and all the others scream
[20:57] <directhex_> hm. not something i've actively paid attention to
[20:57] <directhex_> according to my motherboard manual, it's got 5 4-pin fan headers
[20:57] <directhex_> and no 3-pin
[21:07] <ali1234> directhex_: and what make is it?
[21:07] <directhex_> msi
[21:07] <ali1234> i see. i was actually looking at them... my GPU is MSI and it's very quiet
[21:08] <directhex_> i wanted out-of-the-box linux support.
[21:08] <ali1234> motherboard is ASUS and the CPU bracket lug snapped off, causing the heatsink to fall off while in operation :(
[21:08] <directhex_> not many motherboards advertise that
[21:09] <penguin42> ali1234: Ouch
[21:09] <ali1234> out of the box linux support is also good of course... my brother got a new ASUS mobo recently and virtually nothing on it works in linux, not even the ethernet and sata works properly
[21:09] <directhex_> ali1234: my cooler's bolted to a metal backplate, thankfully :x
[21:10] <ali1234> although to be fair it was a year ago
[21:10] <directhex_> ali1234: that's what i wanted to avoid
[21:10] <directhex_> ali1234: killernic. supported out of the box on ubuntu, but not windows 10 :D
[21:10] <ali1234> silly name though. is it actually good?
[21:11] <directhex_> pfft
[21:11] <directhex_> it's just a nic, tbh. these days, anyway
[21:11] <directhex_> back in the day, the killernic was a $300 (!) network card, for teh gamerz
[21:12] <directhex_> it sold itself as having tcp/ip offloading, for improved game performance. you could also run apps on its embedded cpu, e.g. torrent client running on the nic
[21:12] <directhex_> nowadays it's just a fancy windows driver on top of a conventional firmwareless atheros gigabit chip
[21:12] <ali1234> ah okay
[21:12] <ali1234> i think i prefer it to be the latter, to be honest
[21:13] <directhex_> well, it is. the 163mb gui crap doesn't run on windows 10, so even on windows i'm using the basic ethernet driver for it
[21:13] <directhex_> description: Qualcomm Atheros(R) AR816x/AR817x PCI-E Ethernet Network Driver
[21:14] <daftykins> had someone just yesterday with some kind of alienware laptop, atheros killer NIC was fine but the killer wireless isn't supported by Linux yet
[21:15] <directhex_> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E220x Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
[21:15] <directhex_> ooh, some unknown pci ids. /me submits
[21:18] <daftykins> killer wireless was meant to be waiting on the conversion of firmware from Windows drivers for ath10k
[21:25] <directhex_> submitted 2 new usb controllers to lspci
[21:26] <directhex_> erk forghot to unplug car
[21:29] <daftykins> heh, had to double take that sentence
[21:30] <directhex_> there we go
[21:31] <ali1234> one of my neighbours has a car charger thing on the front of his house now
[21:31] <ali1234> i did wonder how secure that was
[21:31] <directhex_> yeah, i'm waiting on the installer to get one fitted
[21:31] <ali1234> can anyone just steal electricity from them?
[21:31] <directhex_> ali1234: depends on which of the 3 vendors made it
[21:32] <ali1234> based on google images it looks like a ford focus one
[21:32] <directhex_> that's dumb, those aren't subsidized
[21:32] <ali1234> subsidized?
[21:32] <directhex_> podpoint, rolec and chargemaster are the 3 main vendors
[21:33] <directhex_> the govt pays 70% of the costs of getting an ev charger fitted, to a £900 limit
[21:33] <directhex_> so you pay £200 or less
[21:33] <directhex_> the points alone are about £450 without fitting
[21:33] <ali1234> well, i haven't seen it up close, and they all look fairly similar
[21:35] <directhex_> at any rate, rolec have a really cheapy little lock. chargemaster have an isolator switch activated via a key. i honestly don't know for podpoint
[21:36] <directhex_> so you could steal electricity relatively easily... if you have something with a type 2 mennekes socket on it
[21:36] <directhex_> or type 1 j1772
[21:36] <ali1234> like .. an electric car
[21:36] <directhex_> yes!
[21:36] <shauno> I think we make some car chargers too, oddly enough.
[21:37] <directhex_> HAH!
[21:37] <directhex_> pod point has... a padlock hole on the plug
[21:37] <directhex_> you can padlock it to its stand
[21:38] <shauno> seems like something of an afterthought
[21:38] <ali1234> i would just have an on/off switch inside the building, is that a typical thing that you get when it is installed?
[21:40] <directhex_> ali1234: well, as the home owner, you get control over the circuit breaker
[21:40] <directhex_> so you could just flip its circuit in your box
[21:41] <ali1234> that's not exactly convenient though. i was thinking more like the oven on/off switch that you have to have, by law...
[21:41] <directhex_> no, that's not a "thing"
[21:43] <daftykins> i'm sure an electrician could come up with an idea
[22:26] <directhex_> daftykins: it's a threading issue!
[22:26] <directhex_> forced single-processor execution & bioshock runs
[22:27] <daftykins> that's funky 0o
[22:28] <ball> Hmm... I should probably have said "no" when Ubuntu asked me whether to upgrade.
[22:29] <daftykins> ball: :D
[22:31] <directhex_> daftykins: i guess it's not "broken on 15.04", it's "broken on 6-core hyperthreaded processors"
[22:32] <daftykins> hmm i wonder, would disabling HT change much?
[22:32] <daftykins> i'm sure i read something about some modern games hating it at times
[22:33] <ali1234> or just set the core affinity?
[22:33] <ali1234> oh you already did that. carry on
[22:36] <directhex_> 12 threads of obscene power, only execute on one!
[22:37] <directhex_> getting that fixed would be nice
[22:37] <daftykins> only if you're a fan of that game ;)
[22:37] * daftykins wasn't
[22:37] <penguin42> directhex_: I think processors with non-power of 2 cores freaked out simple algorithms
[22:38] <directhex_> penguin42: well, it could be that, i have NPOT cores!
[22:44] <penguin42> directhex_: Can you show me your /proc/cpuinfo ?
[22:45] <directhex_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10903828/
[22:46] <penguin42> directhex_: OK, so 0..5 are one set of threads, 6..11 are the other set
[22:47] <penguin42> pretty much like my 4 core is 0..3,4..7
[22:47] <directhex_> seems that way
[23:23] <daftykins> keep seeing this penguin1263 and thinking "that's not our penguin!"
[23:31] <penguin42> where is that penguin?
[23:31] <daftykins> #ubuntu
[23:31] <penguin42> ah
[23:32] <daftykins> :D
[23:32] <daftykins> imposterrrr!
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[00:01] <rapit> Hi. Ist die xorg.conf unter 15.04 wo anders hin verschwunden? Liegt bei mir standardmäßig nicht unter etc/X11
[00:04] <Lothenon> sie sollte bei einer standard-installation seit 11.10 nicht mehr vorhanden sein
[00:07] <rapit> alles klar, danke. aber sie generieren lassen und dann manuell verändern funktioniert immer noch?
[00:07] <Lothenon> ja
[00:21] <rapit> ist es mit bumblebee möglich, einen dritten monitor (der an der nvidia karte hängt) anzusteuern und dabei dann entsprechend immer nur den nvidia treiber zu verwenden? muss ich den Monitor dazu manuell in die /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia hinzufügen? Mit irgendwelchen besonderen Parametern?
[02:07] <mama999> Mein Stick ist kaputt; wahrscheinlich nur voll. Versuche etwas zu löschen: "Löschprotokoll-Datei konnte nicht angelegt werden: Das Dateisystem ist nur lesbar"
[02:07] <mama999> Da beißt sich die Katze in den Schwanz. Was tun?
[02:10] <nagetier> mama999, kläre doch mal ob der wirklich voll ist
[02:14] <nagetier> mama999, daten sichern, stick rw mounten und neu partitionieren und dadurch löschen
[02:17] <mama999> Danke, nagetier!
[08:30] <blender_> Guten Morgen. Habe auf einem PC das Problem, das nach Standby das Wlan nicht mehr geht. 15.04. Wlan hab ich im NM deaktiviert und wieder aktiviert → zeigt jedoch keine SSIDs an.
[08:33] <blender_> Wie könnte ich die Suche eingrenzen
[08:36] <jokrebel> echt rebooten?
[08:37] <jokrebel> mit WLAN (und andereen) Problemen nach Standby bist Du nicht alleine IIRC
[08:38] <blender_> jokrebel, demnach hast du schon kapituliert.?
[08:40] <blender_> Steck ich in diesem Zustand einen USB Wlan ein dann zeigt NM diesen an und ich kann verbinden
[08:41] <jokrebel> blender_: Schon vor Jahren ;-) Suspend geht entweder OOTB korrekt oder ich nutzt es nicht (mehr) - Hab da schon viel zu viel Zeit reininvestiert und war kein einziges mal erfolgreich. Bei den heutigen Bootzeiten ist mir persönlich da eine ursachenforschung zu blöd.
[08:44] <blender_> Autsch.. du nimmst mir meine Hoffnung
[08:46] <jokrebel> blender_: Was vielleicht noch helfen könnte das (eingebaute?) WLAN mal per Schalter oder Fn-Key-Kombination abzuschalten, kurz zu warten und dann wieder aktivieren.
[08:47] <jokrebel> blender_: Und vielleicht ist http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/kein-wlan-nach-bereitschaft/ noch nen Blick wert
[08:47] <kubine> jokrebel: Title: Kein WLAN nach Bereitschaft › Netzwerk und Internetzugang einrichten › Forum › ubuntuusers.de (at forum.ubuntuusers.de)
[09:10] <blender_> Im Grubmenu werden mir verschiende Kerne und Versionen angezeigt (upstart) ohne upstart und Recovery. Mit Upstartet bootet er in 1/5 der Zeit wie ohne. Ist das Normal?
[09:11] <ppq> blender_, nein
[09:13] <jokrebel> Dachte Upstart wird jetzt gar nicht mehr angeboten zur Auswahl?
[09:13] <blender_> ppq, Upstart ist die Alte Variante? (startet hier sehr schnell)
[09:13] <ppq> blender_, ja, wenn nichts dransteht ist das jetzt (seit 14.10) systemd
[09:14] <jokrebel> eigentlich ist systemd schneller. (Wenn nichts klemmt)
[09:14] <ppq> naja, messbare unterschiede gibt es eigentlich nicht normalerweise
[09:15] <blender_> Ich dachte als ich das erste mal gebootet habe. Ohje. Upgrade schief gelaufen. Mußte ans Telefon und ca. 5Minuten war er dann gestartet. Mit upstart ist er in 25Sekunden da
[09:16] <jokrebel> ich find es auf ein paar Systemen hier gefühlt schneller als vorher. Allerdings nicht gemessen.
[09:16] <ppq> !bootchart > blender_, kannst ja mal damit gucken wo genau es klemmt:
[09:16] <kubine> blender_, kannst ja mal damit gucken wo genau es klemmt:: Informationen zu BootChart finden sich im Wiki unter http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/BootChart
[09:23] <blender_> hat systemd nur was mit dem Bootvorgang zu tun, oder macht das noch mehr?
[09:24] <jokrebel> "nur"...
[09:30] <kurono_> Moin, Leute. Ich habe ein Problem, Linux auf einem MSI Mpc 800k zum laufen zu bekommen. Geht nur im abgesicherten Modus ohne ACPI...
[09:30] <kurono_> Achso, und Windoof funzt ohne Probleme darauf. :-(
[09:32] <jokrebel> wie hast Du denn welches Linux installiert?
[09:33] <kurono_> Ist vollkommen egal, welche Distro. Überall das selbe. Ich installiere/starte via Live CD.
[09:33] <blender_> ppq, Habe bootchart installiert und neu gestartet im /var/log/bootchart ist aber kein Bild drin
[09:34] <kurono_> jokrebel: Wenn ich normal starten will, hängt sich der Startvorgang mit einem fiesen Grafikfehler auf.
[09:35] <jokrebel> kurono_: Welches Ubuntu? Wie lautet der "fiese Fehler" tatsächlich?
[09:36] <bekks> Und wie unterscheidet sich ein fieser von einem unfiesen Fehler? :)
[09:36] <kurono_> jokrebel: Beispiel: Ich starte LinuxMint 17.1 von einer Live CD, es läuft ein wenig im Hintergrund, dann sieht man nur noch ein streifiges Bild aus den Überresten des Grub.
[09:37] <bekks> Mint ist hier ziemlich egal.
[09:37] <kurono_> ACPI ausschalten hilft leider nichts nachdem man installiert hat..
[09:37] <bekks> Warum sollte ACPI dabei helfen?
[09:38] <kurono_> bekks, ist aber auch bei ubuntu das selbe. deshalb insgesamt egal. :-b
[09:38] <bekks> Welches Ubuntu genau setzt Du ein?
[09:38] <kurono_> bekks, weil ich dachte, dass wenn es im abgesicherten modus ohne acpi läuft, das die fehlerquelle ist.
[09:39] <bekks> Der abgesicherte Modus läuft mit dem Standardgrafiktreiber.
[09:39] <kurono_> bekks, 14.04, 13.10 habe ich bisher getestet.
[09:39] <bekks> Welches Ubuntu benutzt Du aktuell?
[09:40] <bekks> 13.10 ist nicht mehr supported, btw.
[09:40] <kurono_> schreiben tue ich gerade von mint aus. :-)
[09:40] <jokrebel> !mint > kurono_
[09:40] <kubine> kurono_: Support für Linux Mint gibt es in #linuxmint-help auf irc.spotchat.org , mehr Infos dazu: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
[09:40] <kurono_> ich weiß, aber da will mir keiner helfen.
[09:41] <jokrebel> ...da da jeder sein eigenes (Grafik)-Süppchen kocht.
[09:41] <bekks> Du hast kein Ubuntu, also hilft Dir hier zumindest auch niemand.
[09:41] <bekks> Wir sind hier wirklich nur der Ubuntusupport, also musst Du Dich bitte an den Mintsupport wenden.
[09:42] <kurono_> Was ist das denn für ein Quatsch? Ob ich nun von Andoid, Mint, Ubuntu oder Arch schreibe ist doch wohl voll egal!
[09:42] <bekks> Welches Ubuntu benutzt Du?
[09:42] <kurono_> es geht doch darum Ubuntu auf meinem Mpc 800k zu installieren.
[09:42] <kurono_> 14.04
[09:42] <bekks> Dabei hilft Dir das Schreiben von Mint aus allerdings - genau gar nicht.
[09:43] <kurono_> Von ubuntu aus auch nicht, richtig?
[09:43] <bekks> Für Ubuntusupport hilft die Benutzung von Ubuntu durchaus.
[09:43] <kurono_> aber nicht auf diesem pc. verstehst du? hier sind 2 pcs am werk. mit diesem schreibe ich nur.
[09:44] <sonotos> öh er will doch support für ubuntu, nur aktuell hat er keins gebootet leute
[09:44] <kurono_> sonotos, endlich! Danke!
[09:44] <bekks> kurono_: Dass da zwei Rechner im Spiel sind, hast Du uns bis jetzt verschwiegen.
[09:44] <bekks> sonotos: Wunderbar, das war gerade deine freiwillige Meldung.
[09:45] <sonotos> ich weiß nichtmal was ein mpc 800 ist, und meine güte was ist denn das für eine stimmung?
[09:45] <kurono_> ja, bekks. dann bist du mich endlich los. :-b
[09:45] <kurono_> ein mpc 800k ist ein barebone von msi.
[09:46] <sonotos> jo und wo ist das problem bei ubuntu? was geht nicht?
[09:46] <sonotos> um mal kurz aufs wesentliche zu kommen
[09:47] <kurono_> ich bekomme ubuntu 14.04 nur im "abgesicherten modus ohne acpi" gestartet. Die installation des korrekten Grafiktreibers danach hilft nicht.
[09:47] <blender_> Das bootchart scheint das systemd nicht zu mögen. mit upstart legt es eine datei an. ein .tgz .. leider kein png dabei. nur Daten werden angezeigt.. ppq kann das systemd also nicht genauer untersuchen.
[09:47] <kurono_> beim normalen start hängt sich der kleine mit einem seltsamen streifigen Bild auf.
[09:47] <bekks> kurono_: Welche Grafikkarte hast du genau, welchen Teiber genau installierst du wie genau?
[09:48] <kurono_> einen moment, kurz.
[09:48] <dreamon> kurono_, Wann siehst du die Streifen zum ersten mal..? gleich beim Einschalten (Biosmeldung, Grub oder beim Bootlogo)?
[09:49] <sonotos> kommst du noch in die konsole? "strg + alt + f1"
[09:49] <kurono_> Nvidia Geforce 5900XT, Treiber: Nvidia173
[09:49] <sonotos> kurono_: hat das ding nen eingebauten intel chipsatz mit drin?
[09:49] <sonotos> also 2 grafikkarten?
[09:49] <kurono_> streifenbild kommt nach der auswahl der bootoption.
[09:50] <dreamon> Das scheint sehr alt zu sein. Glaub die neuen Ubuntu unterstützen das doch gar nicht mehr?
[09:50] <kurono_> intern ist auch was verbaut. aber ich weiß leider nicht was. cpu ist amd.
[09:50] <bekks> Und wie genau installierst du den treiber?
[09:51] <kurono_> mit der nvidia FX5500 funzt es auch nicht.
[09:51] <kurono_> über apt-get.
[09:51] <bekks> Nenn uns den genauen Befehl.
[09:52] <kurono_> sudo apt-get install nvidia-173 ***Passwort***
[09:52] <bekks> Das schreibst Du aber nicht alles in eine Zeile, oder? :)
[09:52] <kurono_> nein. :-)))
[09:55] <bekks> Hast du statt "quiet splash" mal "nomodeset" als Kerneloption benutzt?
[09:55] <kurono_> das kann ich nochmal versuchen.
[09:56] <jokrebel> sonotos: Eine Fehlermeldung die Mint schmeißt hilft halt nicht zwingend dabei Ubuntu zum laufen zu bringen... *seufz*
[09:56] <num7> Ich versuche gerade das Programm Structoizer richtig einzurichten für demu. Dazu hab ich das Paket unter /opt/Structorizer entpackt. In diesen Verzeichnis kann man dann das Programm über ./Structorizer.sh aufrufen. Da ich aber über dmenu aufrufen will wollte ich noch einen symbolischen Link unter /usr/local/bin/ erstellen (ln -s structorizer /opt/Structorizer/Structorizer.sh). Aber über diesen Link lässt sich das Programm nicht starten.
[09:58] <sonotos> jokrebel: jo aber so wie ich das verstanden habe geht es gerade darum 14.4 zum laufen zu bekommen
[09:58] <num7> Wenn ich versuche das Programm über den symbolischen Link zu starten, kann die .jar nicht gefunden werden. (Error: Unable to access jarfile Structorizer.app/Contents/Resources/Java/Structorizer.jar) Heißt das ich muss die Rechte anpassen?
[09:59] <jokrebel> sonotos: Ja, aber der bemängelte Fehler (wenn ich das recht interprätiere) war unter nem Mint
[09:59] <kurono_> ich bin verwirrt. jetzt habe ich die 64bit version von ubuntu normal gestartet, und ich bin weiter... °_o
[10:00] <kurono_> ich dachte 32bit os'se würden auch auf den 64er amd chips laufen?
[10:00] <sonotos> ich hatte das so verstanden, dass er damit ausdrücken wollte dass der sowohl unter mint als auch unter ubuntu kommt. jo eigentlich wollte ich nur etwas schlichten um das aufs wesentliche zurück zu bekommen und keine neue diskussion auf machen
[10:00] <bekks> Tun sie auch.
[10:00] <bekks> Sonst hättest du ein 32bit Ubuntu gar nicht erst booten können.
[10:01] <kurono_> zu früh gefreut. habe nun ein mauscursor, aber sonst nichts
[10:02] <kurono_> und wenn ich die windoof taste drücke, sehe ich den hintergrund und 2 symbole.
[10:02] <kurono_> was zum teufel ist das?
[10:03] <bekks> Ein kaputtes xorg dass den Grafikkartentreiber nicht richtig laden konnte,.
[10:04] <kurono_> ah, okay.
[10:04] <jokrebel> vielleicht könnte da ein nvidia-bugreport.sh helfen. Auch wenn ich mit NVidia eher auf Kriegsfuß stehe. Solch kuriosen Fehler kenn ich mit NVida-Karten schon auch. Aber bisher alles in den Griff bekommen.
[10:04] <kurono_> gibt es einen shortcut für die konsole?
[10:04] <bekks> 0426 114900 < sonotos> kommst du noch in die konsole? "strg + alt + f1"
[10:05] <kurono_> jep.
[10:05] <kurono_> komme ich.
[10:06] <kurono_> können wir da etwas auf das problem eingehen?
[10:10] <subz3r0> um was für ne gpu handelt es sich?
[10:13] <jokrebel> kurono_: nvidia-bugreport erstellen, entpacken und nopsten
[10:16] <bekks> subz3r0: Nvidia 5900XT
[10:16] <kurono_> subz3ro: sowohl die FX5500, als auch die 5900XT.
[10:20] <kurono_> mal rein aus interesse: was wird beim abgesicherten modus ohne acpi als startoption alles eingestellt?
[10:22] <bekks> Das steht in der Kernelcommandline :)
[10:22] <sonotos> kurono_: paste mal den output von dmesg nach http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/
[10:22] <kubine> sonotos: Title: Einträge › Ablage › ubuntuusers.de (at paste.ubuntuusers.de)
[10:23] <kurono_> sonotos, das geht leider schlecht. weil der mpc ja nur begrenzt funktionsfähig ist.
[10:23] <bekks> Installier ssh und dann ist der voll funktionsfähig.
[10:34] <kurono_> habe ich gerade gemacht und bin im netz über einen proprietären treiber gestolpert. als binary. mal sehen, ob das was hilft.
[10:35] <bekks> Viel Glück dabei. Ich würde den nicht installieren.
[10:35] <kurono_> oh, je. warum nicht?
[10:36] <bekks> Weil Dir dann bei JEDEM Kernelupdate das Ding auseinanderfliegen wird.
[10:37] <kurono_> Um ehrlich zu sein, hoffe ich, dass es danach damit getan ist, und ich das teil nicht mehr updaten muss. soll als reine multimedia.station ihren dienst verrichten.
[10:37] <bekks> Dann würde ich nach der Installation auch das Netzkabel ziehen.
[10:38] <kurono_> :-D der hat aber gar kein akku. :-b
[10:40] <subz3r0> bekks: kann so sein, muss aber nicht :) nutze hier auch keinen standard treiber, da der meine gpu nicht unterstützt
[10:40] <jokrebel> kurono_: Er meinte wohl eher das Netzwerkkabel ;-) Ohne den Willen anstehende Aktuallisierungen durchzuführen gehört sowas nicht ans (Inter)Netz
[10:42] <kurono_> jokrebel: das hätte auch genau so ausgesehen. frisst nur volumen.
[10:47] <jokrebel> kurono_: "hätte" ... würdest Du den angeforderten NVidia-Bugreport liefern wären ein paar ausgefuchste User hier vermutlich schon in der Lage gewesen Dein Problem beseitigt zu bekmmen.
[10:50] <Mr_Teatime> Seit dem Update auf 15.04 habe ich das Problem, dass wenn ich in Grub meine Ubuntu Partion wähle, nicht die abfrage der Passphrase für die Entschlüsselung kommt, sondern der Bildschirm einfach schwarz bleibt. Pc abwürgen und neu starten lößt das Problem. Jemand eine Idee für eine Lösung?
[11:13] <jokrebel> Mr_Teatime: Wie? Beim ersten Boot geht es nicht; bei einem erzwungenen Reboot aber dann problemlos?
[11:15] <jokrebel> vielleicht hat systemd ja Probleme beim einbinden irgendeiner Partition die erst sehr verspätet "kommt"?
[11:16] <Mr_Teatime> jokrebel: richtig. Aber wenn ich z.b. auch zwischen Windows und Linux wechsel, funktioniert es nur in ca 40% der fälle Problemlos. Sonst wieder abwürgen > neu starten > ubuntu wählen > passphrase für entschlüsselung eingeben
[11:18] <Mr_Teatime> jokrebel: dachte ich mir auch. Habe irgendwie das gefühl, dass systemd irgendwie nicht mit efi klar kommt. Habe auf nem älteren pc beide Systeme mal aufgesetzt und da funktioniert das reibungslos
[11:18] <jokrebel> Mr_Teatime: Da ich mich mit Verschlüsselung nicht auskenne halte ich mich mit weiteren Vermutungen zurück. Aber generell hat systemd schon strengere Anforderungen an zB. falsche Einträge in der fstab
[11:19] <Mr_Teatime> jokrebel: die Verschlüsselung ist die, welche bei der Ubuntu installaton zur auswahl ist. Weitere Verschlüsselung kommt erst beim gebooteten System über Container.
[11:20] <bekks> Weitere Verschlüsselung über Container?
[11:20] <ppq> die fstab hat damit ja nichts zu tun
[11:20] <ppq> das klingt eher nach grub problem
[11:21] <Mr_Teatime> ppq: irgend eine Idee wo ich da mal ansetzten kann?
[11:22] <bekks> Mr_Teatime: Ich gebe keinen Support in Queries :)
[11:22] <Mr_Teatime> bekks: ist keine support anfrage :) sollte nur das mit den Containern erklären
[11:23] <ppq> Mr_Teatime, ja, setz mal einen timeout in deiner /etc/default/grub. GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT und GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET wegkommentieren und z.b. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 setzen. dann ein sudo update-grub
[11:24] <ppq> falls das was bringt kannst du natürlich auch kleinere werte nehmen
[11:24] <Mr_Teatime> ppq: ok, probiere ich gleich aus
[11:25] <dasjoe> Vermute https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1359689
[11:25] <kubine> dasjoe: Title: Bug #1359689 “cryptsetup password prompt not shown” : Bugs : linux package : Ubuntu (at bugs.launchpad.net)
[11:27] <ppq> joa, klingt so
[11:27] <Mr_Teatime> danke dir dasjoe
[11:32] <Mr_Teatime> ok, Problem kann so gelößt werden. Danke für die Hilfe
[12:35] <jokrebel> xubuntu <-- indicator-multiload ist immer nur für eine Sekunde komplett sichtbar. Da wieder für 2-3 Sekunden nur ein "freier Platz mit in der mitte ein Balken ( ----- ). Wie bekomm ich die dauerhafte Anzeige? (15.04)
[12:43] <stevieh1> hehe, klingt nach bug, oder?
[12:44] <Guest40720> moin
[12:46] <Guest40720> meine frage: habe ein acer aspire E1-572 und ubuntu-mate 14.04 installiert,mein bluetooth will aber keine hardware finden
[12:46] <Guest40720> http://pastebin.com/kYBPG7jR
[12:46] <kubine> Guest40720: Title: E1-572bluetoothproblem - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[12:47] <Guest40720> fehler klingt wie folgender bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1237296
[12:47] <kubine> Guest40720: Title: Bug #1237296 “168c:0036 [Acer Aspire E1-572] ath9k QCA9565/AR956...” : Bugs : linux package : Ubuntu (at bugs.launchpad.net)
[12:47] <Guest40720> kann mir jemand einen tipp oder eine hilfestellung dafür geben?
[13:07] <SpeeFak> steht btrfs eigentlich unter der gpl ?
[13:08] <ring0> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs
[13:08] <kubine> ring0: Title: Btrfs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[13:16] <Guest40720> hier scheint sonntags echt tote hose zu sein :D
[13:16] <stevieh1> Guest40720: im bugreport steht doch, was man machen kann, oder?
[13:17] <Guest40720> das war eher darauf bezogen das man nur channelstatusmeldungen sieht
[13:18] <Guest40720> und das ziel ist ja auch klar,aber der weg erschließt sich mir noch nicht so ganz wenn ich ehrlich bin
[13:18] <stevieh1> ist der rechner ganz frisch installiert?
[13:18] <Guest40720> habe schon gesehen das es nen LTS stack enabeling stack gibt
[13:19] <Guest40720> nee,die maschine läuft schon ne zeit sporadisch und im moment öfters weil mein neuer rechner noch nicht fertig ist
[13:19] <Guest40720> da soll direkt 15.04 drauf wenn ich alle teile zusammen habe
[13:20] <stevieh1> ich persönlich würde den laptop auf 14.10 upgraden und sieht aus, als ob es da geht.
[13:20] <Guest40720> nicht direkt auf 15.04?
[13:20] <stevieh1> und den neuen rechner würde ich auch erst so ab Juni auf 15.04
[13:21] <stevieh1> nein, zum einen, weil es noch ganz frisch ist, zum anderen, weil du ja auf dem weg nach 15.04 eh noch bei 14.10 vorbei musst, wenn du nicht neu installieren willst.
[13:21] <Guest40720> hmm,ok
[13:21] <Guest40720> alles noch neu für mich
[13:21] <Guest40720> war zu lange windows verstrahlt
[13:22] <Guest40720> komme mir stellenweise manchmal bisschen doof vor,weil ich immer viel frage und lese :)
[13:22] <stevieh1> und wenn du der Beschreibung in dem bug fix nicht folgen kannst, würde ich dir als "maximales" aktuell 14.10 empfehlen. Eher 14.04, aber bis du da bluetooth angetreten hast, ist dein Leben vorbei.
[13:22] <stevieh1> allet jut
[13:23] <Guest40720> wie komme ich denn am elegantesten zu 14.10? weil ich würde die holzhammermethode probieren und das mit ner DVD im live modus machen
[13:24] <Guest40720> aber da gabs ja irgendwo nen bug der die ganze platte überschreibt meine ich gelesen zu haben
[13:24] <stevieh1> ?
[13:24] <stevieh1> klick im installierten 14.04 die developer releases an und mach nen Dist upgrade
[13:24] <Guest40720> ich weiß aber nicht ob das bei der ersetzen option war oder bei der upgrade option
[13:26] <stevieh1> ich wüsste nichts von so nem bug
[13:27] <Guest40720> ich suche gerade die dev einstellungen
[13:29] <Guest40720> ich muss das ubuntu buch vom galileo press verlag echt mal fertig lesen....
[13:29] <stevieh1> hehe
[13:30] <Guest40720> ich mache schon ewig mit computern rum und alles und bin gerade echt gefordert seitdem ich windows abgeschafft habe bei mir
[13:30] <stevieh1> btw: With Trusty 3.16.2-031602-generic #201409052035 SMP Sat Sep 6 00:36:44 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 bluetooth works as expected
[13:30] <Guest40720> ist schon echt krass wie man degeneriert wenn man nur den vorgekauten müll aus redmond kriegt
[13:30] <stevieh1> trusty = 14.04. d.h. ab diesem kernel sollte es gehen
[13:31] <Guest40720> magst du mir helfen diesen selbigen zu installieren indem du mich in die richtige richtung schubst?
[13:31] <Guest40720> ich bin nen lernjunkie und will mich verbessern
[13:31] <stevieh1> die 14.04er SW ist aktuell?
[13:32] <Guest40720> alle updates eingespielt die mir das system anbietet
[13:32] <Guest40720> ist ubuntu-mate 14.04
[13:32] <stevieh1> mach mal uname -a
[13:32] <Guest40720> 3.13.0-49-generic #83-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 10 20:11:33 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:33] <Guest40720> mehr steht da nicht,falls du dich wunderst
[13:33] <dasjoe> Guest40720: ich würde auf 14.04 bleiben und einfach den LTS-Enablement-Stack nachschieben wie hier beschrieben: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[13:33] <kubine> dasjoe: Title: Kernel/LTSEnablementStack - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[13:33] <Guest40720> ich weiß aus YT videos dass da mehr stehen könnte
[13:34] <stevieh1> Guest40720: das ist ein guter Tipp, den dasjoe da gibt. Mach das mal
[13:34] <Guest40720> einfach nur kopieren und einfügen - richtig?
[13:35] <dasjoe> Erst lesen, dann machen :)
[13:36] <stevieh1> :-)
[13:36] <stevieh1> und ich geh tennis spielen.
[13:37] <Guest40720> ich darf 12.04 und 14.04 sachen nicht mischen
[13:37] <Guest40720> das ist mir aber klar
[13:38] <Guest40720> das meiste dreht sich in den beschreibungen um 12.04 wenn ich nichts übersehen habe
[13:40] <Guest40720> und wenn ich auf 14.04.2 wechsele muss ich spätestens im august 2016 auf 14.04.5 wechseln wegen dem supportfenster
[13:40] <Guest40720> habe ich sonst was vergessen dasjoe ?
[13:44] <Guest40720> bin gerade echt gespannt ob das klappt wie ich es mir erhoffe :)
[14:28] <Anf> Guten Tag. Eine kleine frage. Wollte gerade meine Bilder von der DigitalKamera auf den PC speichern, hab die SD Karte rausgenommen, und an den PC gesteckt. Leider Öffnet sich bei Mir immer Shotwell Photo Manager, mit dem ich garnicht klarkomme, kann man den Manager abstellen, mir ist lieber, die Bilder einfach im Ordner zu finden, und manuell zu kopieren?
[14:28] <ppq> einfach shotwell deinstallieren
[14:29] <Anf> klar, daran hab ich auch als erstes gedacht, die einfachste lösung, aber anstellen geht nicht?
[14:29] <ppq> keine ahnung
[14:29] <ppq> aber wenn du es eh nicht nutzt...
[14:30] <Anf> ok, da ich das Packet eh nicht brauche, deinstalliere ich es einfach mal.
[14:30] <ppq> *Paket, ohne c ;)
[14:31] <Anf> upps, sorry Schreibfehler :)
[14:36] <Anf> Weiß noch jemand wie der Befehl zu deinstallieren war, nicht der einfache Befehl wo nur das Paket entfernt wird, sondern auch andere Pakete die zu dem Paket gehören?
[14:36] <Lothenon> -purge
[14:37] <ppq> nein
[14:37] <ppq> sudo apt-get --autoremove --purge <paketname>
[14:38] <ppq> das entfernt die abhängigkeiten mit
[14:38] <ppq> äh, --auto-remove
[14:38] <ppq> sudo apt-get --auto-remove --purge remove <paketname>
[14:38] <ppq> so ists richtig
[14:38] <Anf> Super, den Befehl meinte Ich. Vielen Dank Euch
[14:39] <ppq> und natürlich vor dem abnicken gucken was er alles runterschmeißen will.
[14:50] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Wenn 14.04.2 korrekt vorhanden ist und Du regelmäßig "dist-upgrade" laufen lässt bekommst Du autmatisch die nächsten LTS-Point-Releases.
[14:51] <Guest40720> dist-upgrade habe ich noch nie gemacht weil ich immer angst hatte auf die nächste ubuntu version zu kommen
[14:52] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Ein dist-upgrade ist _kein_ (do-)release-upgrade!
[14:53] <Guest40720> und wieder was gelernt
[14:53] <Guest40720> sudo apt dist-upgrade?
[14:53] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Man sollte (nutzt man das Terminal für die updates) immer "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" laufen lassen.
[14:53] <jokrebel> Nur so bekommt man auch die neuen Kernel
[14:53] <Guest40720> ah ok
[14:56] <Guest40720> er hat jetzt cirka 1mb runtergeladen und upgedatet
[14:56] <Guest40720> das ist nen bisschen wenig denke ich
[15:00] <L1ntux> einer von euch ubuntu auf dem nexus 4 im täglichen Einsatz?
[15:00] <L1ntux> hole gleich nen gebrauchtes nexus 4 und wollte es nutzen.
[15:01] <ppq> zum täglichen einsatz taugt das imho noch nicht
[15:01] <ppq> aber zum testen ist ein n4 ne gute idee
[15:02] <L1ntux> :/ warum
[15:02] <L1ntux> akku probleme?
[15:02] <L1ntux> abstürze?
[15:02] <ppq> meinte eher das app angebot
[15:03] <L1ntux> achso, das nicht schlimm
[15:03] <L1ntux> brauch nur telefon, telegram und sms
[15:03] <L1ntux> irgendwann wäre whatsapp noch nett
[15:03] <jokrebel> L1ntux: Habs vor kurzem mal in der Hand gehabt auf nem Nexus 4. Sah schick aus und fühlte sich flüssig an.
[15:03] <L1ntux> wollte es auf der arbeit nutzen
[15:05] <L1ntux> nexus 4 kostet mich nur 100€ und sailfish os, firefox os, ubuntu und Android rennt
[15:05] <L1ntux> gutes frickel handy
[15:35] <rentier_> Huhu! Ich will auf LibreOffice 4.4 updaten aber Synaptic gibt mir nur 4.2.7, meine aktuelle Version!
[15:36] <rentier_> Wie krieg ich das 4.4 drauf?
[15:38] <nagetier> rentier_, https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-4-4
[15:38] <kubine> nagetier: Title: LibreOffice 4.4.x : “LibreOffice Packaging” team (at launchpad.net)
[15:40] <jokrebel> rentier_: Wobei die Frage erlaubt sei ob es einen triftigen Grund gibt eine neuere als die gelieferte Version benutzen zu wollen.
[15:41] <nagetier> rentier_, lese dazu aber auch bitte etwas.. ppa zu verwenden ist nicht immer ganz risikolos - http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Launchpad/PPA
[15:41] <kubine> nagetier: Title: PPA › Launchpad › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[15:41] <ppq> jokrebel, ... sprach der versionitis-patient nummer 1 ;)
[15:42] * jokrebel hatte es noch nicht nötig bei LibreOffice ein PPA zu nutzen weil inbedingt ne neuere Version nötig ist.
[15:45] <rentier_> jokrebel, weil ich diese Verbesserung hier will
[15:45] <rentier_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/138623/sheet-name-font-size-on-libreoffice-calc-is-too-small
[15:45] <kubine> rentier_: Title: 12.04 - Sheet name font size on LibreOffice Calc is too small - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com)
[15:50] <jokrebel> rentier_: 12.04? Warum nicht gleich ein LTS-Upgrade auf 14.04? Da ist dan Version: 4.2.7.2 standardmäßig vorhanden.
[15:50] <rentier_> jokrebel, diese Version will ich gerade loswerden und durch die aktuelle MIT der Verbesserung ersetzen
[15:51] <rentier_> jokrebel, und lass dir gesagt sein: Ich werde JEDES LibreOffice Update so schnell esgeht mitnehmen in der Hoffnung, dass es vielleicht doch endlich halbwegs konkurrenzfähig zu meinem uralten Microsoft Office XP wird.
[15:52] <jokrebel> na ob dann ein altes LTS das richtige Grundgerüst ist? ...
[15:53] <jokrebel> mal davon ausgehend, dass Du diese alte Seite zitierst weil Du mit 12.04 unterwegs bist.
[15:54] <rentier_> jokrebel, nein, die zitiere ich, weil da die Lösung für ein Problem draufstand, das mich ärgert
[15:55] <jokrebel> rentier_: Die neueste Antwort ist schon fast 2 Jahre alt. Dir ist klar, dass sich bei Ubuntu viel getan hat seither?
[15:56] <rentier_> jokrebel, aber nicht in meinem Libreoffice. Da ist das Problem nach wie vor drin.
[15:56] <jokrebel> rentier_: Und nur weil das vor Jahren bei 12.04 ne Lösung war muss das heut nicht mehr zutreffen.,
[15:56] <rentier_> bis gerade eben
[15:56] <rentier_> jetzt ist es weg
[15:56] <rentier_> tschö!
[16:23] <jokrebel> xubuntu <-- indicator-multiload ist immer nur für eine Sekunde komplett sichtbar. Dann immer wieder für 2-3 Sekunden nur ein "freier Platz" mit in der mitte ein Balken ( ----- ). Wie bekomm ich da die dauerhafte Anzeige zurück? (15.04)
[16:43] <Guest40720> ich nochmal: ist es normal das so viele pakete deinstalliert werden müssen beim LTS hardware enabling stack?
[16:45] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Kannst Du "so viele" etwas präzisieren? Oder am besten per Pastebin herzeigen bitte.
[16:46] <Guest40720> waren 40-50 stück glaube ich
[16:46] <Guest40720> 58
[16:47] <bekks> "Glauben" ist sonntags schon mal recht gut. Nur leider überhaupt nicht hilfreich.
[16:47] <jokrebel> ...alles andere als "präziese" aber aus dem "waren" schließe ich eh, dass Du es bereits abgenickt hast ;-)
[16:48] <Guest40720> sind 58 stück
[16:48] <Guest40720> habe mir gerade nochmal die aktuelle,präzise zahl geholt
[16:48] <Guest40720> http://pastebin.com/4hdkJVvf
[16:48] <kubine> Guest40720: Title: 1404LTSHWE - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[16:49] <bekks> "Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt" - das hat nichts mit LTS zu tun.
[16:49] <bekks> Das sind einfach nicht mehr benötigte Abhängigkeiten von anderen Paketen.
[16:51] <Guest40720> skype und steam sind also abhängigkeiten?
[16:51] <Guest40720> oder hat der nicht alles einkopiert?
[16:51] <bekks> skype und steam sind Paket, die du selbst installiert hast.
[16:51] <bekks> Die werden entfernt, weil durch den neuen Kernel Pakete obsolet werden, die beim Entfernen Abhängigkeiten verletzen würden.
[16:52] <Guest40720> finde ich trotzdem scheiße da ich den ganzen mist neu einrichten müsste dann :(
[16:53] <bekks> Wieso das?
[16:53] <bekks> Beim Entfernen werden KEINE Konfigurationsverzeichnisse aus deinem Home entfernt.
[16:55] <Guest40720> oh,ok
[16:55] <Guest40720> bin davon ausgegangen das alles restlos gelöscht wird
[16:56] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Wenn Du niemals "dist-upgrade" gemacht hattest steht jetzt ne ganze Menge an, ja. Dass da dann danach ein bisschen Handarbeit (besonders bei den nicht über die regulären Wege hinzugefügten Programme) nötig ist ist halt einfach so.
[16:57] <Guest40720> habe die liste nochmal durchgeschaut
[16:58] <Guest40720> sind jetzt spontan 4 dinge die ich vermissen würde
[16:58] <Guest40720> die ich aber nachinstallieren kann wenn nötig
[16:59] <Guest40720> was macht "dist-upgrade" eigentlich genau?
[17:00] <jokrebel> Guest40720: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[17:00] <kubine> jokrebel: Title: apt - What is "dist-upgrade" and why does it upgrade more than "upgrade"? - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com)
[17:00] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Oder auch http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/apt/apt-get?redirect=no#Kommandos
[17:01] <kubine> jokrebel: Title: apt-get › apt › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[17:03] <Guest40720> also ist dist-upgrade der hierachisch höchste befehl der die meisten veränderungen mit sich bringt?
[17:07] <bekks> Nein, dist-upgrade tut etwas anderes als upgrade
[17:08] <bekks> Hirarchisch am Höchsten wäre do-release-upgrade
[17:08] <Guest40720> ah,ok
[17:08] <Guest40720> weil die beschreibungen für upgrade und dist-upgrade sind fast identisch
[17:09] <Guest40720> und ich habe noch nie für mich persönlich probleme gehabt mit nur upgrade
[17:09] <Guest40720> dort habe ich auch immer neue pakete gekriegt,deswegen ist es für mich jetzt spontan nicht wirklich verständlich
[17:09] <jokrebel> Guest40720: ...außer dass Du nicht automagisch auf Point-Release .2 gekommen bist.
[17:10] <Guest40720> genau das
[17:10] <jokrebel> ...und neuere Kernel nutzen konntest
[17:10] <Guest40720> ich habe auch ne menge PPAs in meinem system - teilweise waren die schon von anfang an da,wegen dem mate desktop
[17:11] <Guest40720> die muss ich sicherlich auch deaktivieren für den update vorgang auf den stack,richtig?
[17:11] <jokrebel> PPAs sind _nicht_ "von Anfang an da"!
[17:11] <Guest40720> bei ubuntu-mate schon
[17:11] <jokrebel> nö
[17:11] <Guest40720> die sind nämlich erst seit 15.04 offizeller flavor
[17:12] <Guest40720> die versionen davor werden alle mit mate desktop ppas ausgeliefert
[17:12] <Guest40720> die sind da wirklich schon drinne von vornerein
[17:12] <Guest40720> das geht jetzt natürlich nicht mehr weil offizeller teil der ubuntu familie
[17:13] <jokrebel> soweit ich weis gab es Mate bereits mindestesten mit 14.10 auch schon aus offiziellen Quellen.
[17:13] <Guest40720> leider nicht
[17:13] <Guest40720> 14.10 war die erste version
[17:13] <jokrebel> siehste!
[17:13] <Guest40720> danach haben sie 14.04 nachgeschoben wegen longtime
[17:13] <Guest40720> beide mit ppas gebaut
[17:13] <jokrebel> nö
[17:14] <Guest40720> 15.04 ist offizeller release in der ubuntu familie ohne PPAs
[17:14] <jokrebel> seit 14.10 auch ohne PPA installierbar
[17:14] <Guest40720> dann ist wenigstens die 14.04 mit PPAs ausgeliefert worden
[17:14] <Guest40720> die 14.10 habe ich nie probiert
[17:14] <Guest40720> simplescreenrecorder und so habe ich selber hinzugefügt
[17:14] <jokrebel> PPA und "ausgeliefert" passt nicht zusammen ;-)
[17:15] <Guest40720> aber die mate PPAs waren von vornerein drinne
[17:15] <jokrebel> nein
[17:15] <Guest40720> doch
[17:16] <Guest40720> weil die habe ich nicht reingebaut
[17:16] <Guest40720> und es gibt dann nur noch die andere möglichkeit
[17:16] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Dann ist es keine _offizielle_ Ubuntu-Installation (und die Hilfe/Support entsprechend schwer bis unmöglich)
[17:16] <Guest40720> ist ja auch erst seit 15.04 offizelles ubuntu mit canonicals segen
[17:17] <jokrebel> immer noch nein soweit ich weis
[17:17] <Guest40720> doch,wurde jetzt verkündet
[17:18] <Guest40720> ab 15.04 keine bastelleien mehr sondern hilfe von canonical und zugang zu deren buildservice und alles :)
[17:18] <Guest40720> 14.04 und 14.10 sind noch ziemlich bastelig
[17:19] <jokrebel> Guest40720: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/MATE#Installationsmedien *seufz*
[17:19] <kubine> jokrebel: Title: MATE › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[17:20] <Guest40720> genau so!
[17:22] <Guest40720> mein plan war einfach bis 16.04 zu nutzen und dann einfach wenn 16.04 ausgereift ist nen upgrade zu fahren
[17:22] <Guest40720> aber das klappt ja jetzt wohl nicht mehr :(
[17:22] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Wo deckt sich "...mit Ubuntu 14.10 umgesetzt" mit Deiner Behauptung es sei erst seit grade eben "an Board"?
[17:22] <Guest40720> bei 14.04 brauchten sie noch PPAs
[17:23] <Guest40720> bei 14.10 konnten sie die pakete aus dem repo nehmen,aber sie haben erst ab 15.04 den offizellen segen von canonical
[17:23] <jokrebel> und brauchen es noch immer - ja
[17:23] <jokrebel> nein!
[17:24] <Guest40720> das hat der projektleiter ganz schön bei linux unplugged erzählt wie er mit jungs von canonical zusammengesessen hat um das alles in offizelle tücher zu bringen
[17:25] <jokrebel> aber was solls - ich widme mich jetzt wieder wichtigeren Dingen als "seit wann ist Mate in den Repos"
[17:25] <jokrebel> ...MAte ist eh überbewertet </offtopic>
[17:26] <Guest40720> gibt wichtigere dinge,da gebe ich dir recht
[17:26] <Guest40720> ist eigentlich doof sich wegen sowas zu streiten,aber manchmal reizt es einen echt zu sehr
[17:26] <Guest40720> einigen wir uns auf unwichtig? :)
[17:27] <Guest40720> weil ich frage mich noch immer ob ich die PPAs abschalten muss/soll/darf damit der update vorgang funktioniert
[17:27] <jokrebel> schon wichtiger ist, dass man, um LTS aktuell zu halten, schon ab und an dist-upgrade fahren sollte ;-)
[17:28] <Guest40720> weil ich habe gerade echt keine gefühl,gedanken oder was auch immer wie ich weiter vorgehen soll
[17:28] <Guest40720> das habe ich jetzt gelernt und verstanden
[17:28] <Guest40720> dist-upgrade ist eigentlich die große update keule
[17:29] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Bei größeren Veränderungen ist es _immer_ sinnvoll die (händisch unsupported hinzugfügten) PPAs zu deaktivieren und anschließend (ggf. mit den richtigen Versionen) wieder einzupflegen.
[17:29] <Guest40720> alles andere nur teelöffel
[17:29] <Guest40720> und ich zerschieße mir nicht den desktop damit?
[17:30] <Guest40720> weil ich werde ja nicht auf linux 14.10 springen
[17:30] <Guest40720> sondern nur mein 14.04 richtig upgraden
[17:30] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Murphy würde zu Backups auf alle Fälle raten; dann klappt es auch häufiger ohen Tränen-
[17:31] <jokrebel> aber wenn ich das richtig mitbekommen hab hast Du das meiste ja eh schon ausgeführt Guest40720
[17:32] <Guest40720> zu backups würde ich auch greifen,wenn es ein richtig produktives system ist
[17:32] <Guest40720> nutze den gerade nur weil mein anderer PC nicht geht
[17:32] <Guest40720> also keine wirklich wichtigen sachen drauf die man nicht mit ner live disc retten kann
[17:37] <Guest40720> so,ist jetzt durchgelaufen
[17:37] <Guest40720> jetzt noch sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-utopic ?
[17:38] <jokrebel> utopic? Ich dachte Du hast ein 14.04?
[17:38] <Guest40720> habe ich auch
[17:39] <jokrebel> da passt dann aber utopic nicht wirklich würd ich meinen.
[17:40] <bekks> utopic ist 14.10, trusty ist 14.04
[17:40] <jokrebel> und woraus schließt Du dass da überhaupt ein dpkg-reconfigure nötig ist?
[17:41] <Guest40720> ich frage da es so im wiki steht
[17:42] <bekks> Weil was so in welchem Wiki steht?
[17:42] <jokrebel> keine Ahung welchem WSiki Du gerade folgst...
[17:42] <jokrebel> keine Ahnung welchem Wiki Du gerade folgst...
[17:43] <Guest40720> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LTS_Enablement_Stacks
[17:43] <kubine> Guest40720: Title: LTS Enablement Stacks › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[17:44] <bekks> Ja, dann führ das doch aus? :)
[17:46] <Guest40720> erledigt
[17:46] <Guest40720> gab auch keine grafische rückmeldung aus das sich was betan hätte
[17:46] <Guest40720> also keine infos im terminal
[17:47] <Guest40720> jetzt wieder die PPAs rein?
[17:47] <bekks> Welche PPA`?
[17:47] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Den Satz nach dem "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-utopic" hast Du ja hoffentlich gelesen und befolgt!
[17:48] <jokrebel> mindestens erstmal in den neuesten Kernel rebooten würd ich meinen
[17:48] <Guest40720> der satz richtet sich doch an ubuntu 12.04 nutzer
[17:49] <jokrebel> nein?
[17:49] <stevieh> haha, hatten wir es vorhin nicht mit suspend und komische Sachen passieren? jetzt ist mein Mauszeiger weg ;-)
[17:50] <bekks> Guest40720: Der Satz richtet sich an alle LTS Nutzer.
[17:50] <Guest40720> " Falls NICHT der HWE-Stack für 14.04.2 installiert wurde, muss statt "utopic" der entsprechende Codename des HWE-Stacks eingesetzt werden, etwa "trusty" für das Update auf 12.04.5, das den HWE-Stack aus Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) mitbringt."
[17:50] <Guest40720> ich habe das nicht mal groß gemacht
[17:51] <bekks> Welchen LTS Stck hast du denn installiert?
[17:51] <bekks> *Stack
[17:51] <Guest40720> ich habe den HWE für 14.04.2 installiert
[17:51] <Guest40720> und nach der formulierung in der wiki muss ich nichts ändern sondern nur kopieren und ausführen
[17:52] <Guest40720> trusty muss ich nur bei 12.04.5 einsetzen
[17:52] <jokrebel> also bei mir steht da ... Vor einem Neustart des Systems führt man noch ein: >>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-utopic <<<
[17:52] <jokrebel> aus, damit die notwendigen Verknüpfungen (Symlinks) neu erstellt und zugeordnet werden. Falls nicht der HWE-Stack für 14.04.2 installiert wurde, muss statt "utopic" der entsprechende Codename des HWE-Stacks eingesetzt werden, etwa "trusty" für das Update auf 12.04.5, das den HWE-Stack aus Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) mitbringt.j
[17:52] <Guest40720> genau darauf beziehe ich mich
[17:52] <bekks> Guest40720: Es gibt noch mehr LTS Stacks, daher steht da explizit auch noch das Beispiel für trusty.
[17:53] <bekks> Wie dem auch sei, jetzt ist ein Reboot fällig.
[17:53] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Und wenn ich "trusty" fahre muss ich natürlich auch trusty nutzen nicht utopic
[17:54] <Guest40720> trusty braucht man aber nur wenn man HWE für 12.04.5 installiert der features von 14.04 ,oder die formulierung ist grütze o.O
[17:54] <Guest40720> denn so verstehe ich den text nämlich
[17:55] <Guest40720> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-trusty [sudo] password for bjoern: dpkg-query: Paket »xserver-xorg-lts-trusty« ist nicht installiert und es ist keine Information verfügbar Verwenden Sie dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) zum Untersuchen von Archiven und dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) zum Auflisten ihres Inhalts. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg-lts-trusty ist nicht installiert
[17:55] <jokrebel> Guest40720: Mag sein, dass ma das besser schreiben könnte. Its a Wiki - do it ;-)
[17:56] <bekks> "etwa" leitet ein Beispiel ein.
[17:56] <bekks> Daher wird NACH "etwa" trusty für 12.04.5 erwähnt.
[17:57] <jokrebel> ...vermutlich ist bei Guest40720 dieser Schritt ja gar nicht nötig da er ja "nur" nie Dist-Upgrade benutzt hatte.
[17:57] <Guest40720> für mich ist es auch wesentlich logischer die sachen für trusty mit utopic zu bezeichnen weil es ja teile aus 14.10 sind :) aber da streiten sich die geister dran bestimmt
[17:58] <bekks> Die "Dachen für Trusty mit Utopic bezeichnen" ist sachlich falsch.
[17:58] <Guest40720> ich denke ich versuche nen reboot mal
[17:58] <bekks> Sie werden mit Utopic bezeichnet, weil sie aus Utopic stammen.
[17:58] <Guest40720> genau das meine ich
[17:58] <Guest40720> schlecht formuliert
[17:58] <bekks> Du hast etwas ganz anderes gesagt.
[17:59] <Guest40720> darum auch schlecht formuliert
[17:59] <bekks> Würden sie aus Vidid stammen, würden sie nicht Trusty sondern Vivid heissen.
[17:59] <Guest40720> ich reboote mal - mal schauen,bis gleich
[18:06] <guest293923> da bin ich wieder
[18:06] <guest293923> bluetooth funktioniert :)
[18:07] <jokrebel> schön
[18:22] <Etarius> hallo … ich hab mal ne frage … hat wer in letzter zeit mal bei gimp versucht beim normalmap-plugin die 3d-vorschau anzugucken?
[18:23] <guest23948> hat mich mein wlan doch rausgehauen
[18:24] <guest23948> kann ich die PPAs jetzt wieder aktivieren?
[18:31] <bekks> PPA sind eine Userentscheidung. Die sind hier nicht supported ;)
[18:32] <guest23948> ich frage nur wegen der "korrekten" reihenfolge (falls es die gibt) in so einem vorgang
[18:32] <guest23948> es ist mir klar das ich das entscheiden muss
[18:32] <guest23948> :)
[18:36] <guest23948> so,ich muss dann leider auch schon wieder gehen, der hund und die holde warten auf mich - mann sieht sich! :)
[18:37] <Etarius> für die die es wissen wollen was in der 3dvorschau passiert beim gimp-normalmap … http://pastebin.com/9hu6s4AA
[18:37] <kubine> Etarius: Title: [Bash] gimp 2.8 normalmap 3dpreview ERROR - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[19:19] <Perzeus> #freifunk
[19:19] <_moep_> fail
[21:42] <guest345968> nabend
[21:45] <guest345968> ich war vorhin schon mal da,und habe mit hilfe von netten leuten hier mein bluetooth zum laufen gekriegt, jetzt zickt mein wlan -.- ist Atheros QCA9565/ AR9565 mit ath9k treiber
[21:46] <guest345968> kernel ist 3.16
[21:47] <vitus> logs gelesen?
[21:48] <guest345968> wo finde ich denn den log?
[21:48] <vitus> unter /var/log
[21:50] <guest345968> welchen log brauche ich denn? eindeutig erkennbaren netzwerk oder wlan log sehe ich nicht - brauche sicherlich den systemlog?
[21:51] <vitus> im zweifel syslog
[21:52] <guest345968> habe ich mit cat geöffnet
[21:52] <vitus> :-) ne
[21:52] <guest345968> sondern?
[21:53] <guest345968> ich will gerne dazulernen
[21:53] <vitus> guck mit ifconfig nach dein netzwerk und dann suche im syslog danach
[21:54] <vitus> cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan0 oder was auch immer
[21:55] <vitus> bin selber anfänger, wäre so jedenfalls mein erster ansatz
[21:55] <bekks> grep -i wlan /var/log/syslog
[21:56] <vitus> das sieht schöner aus
[21:58] <guest345968> das dann in pastebin,richtig? :)
[21:58] <vitus> naja, mach mal
[21:58] <vitus> aber nur den fehler
[22:00] <vitus> kannst aber auch gleich den fehler google vorwerfen, oft sindet sich dann die lösung
[22:00] <guest345968> ich vermag nicht den fehler zu finden :(
[22:01] <vitus> vielleicht gibt es auch keinen und dein wlan zickt nicht
[22:01] <guest345968> hab mir nen usb stick ins notebook gesteckt damit ich überhaupt hier schreiben kann
[22:01] <guest345968> naja, es lassen sich keine seiten aufrufen obwohl ich verbindung habe
[22:02] <guest345968> ergo muss da ein fehler vorliegen
[22:02] <guest345968> sonst ginge nichts
[22:02] <vitus> der server könnte aus anderen gründen nicht erreichbar sein
[22:03] <vitus> würde netzwerk reloaden und ins syslog gucken
Activation (wlan0/wireless): association took too long, failing activation
[22:04] <guest345968> hab nochmal bisschen gefiltert
[22:04] <guest345968> habe bekks zeile genommen und ne 0 hinzugefügt
[22:04] <vitus> wirf das mal google vor, wird sich sicher eine lösung finden
[22:05] <bekks> guest345968: Der Trick war, eben keine 0 hinzuzufügen :)
[22:06] <guest345968> dann habe ich 2 wlan adapter im auszug
[22:07] <guest345968> soll das so sein?
[22:07] <bekks> Da wir nicht wissen, was da steht - ja.
[22:08] <guest345968> hmm
[22:10] <vitus> bekks weist mit einem riesen hammer auf die fehlermeldung hin, vielleicht willst du die posten?
[22:12] <guest345968> hatte die ja weiter oben gepostet
Activation (wlan0/wireless): association took too long, failing activation
[22:15] <guest345968> was ich aber so beobachten konnte ist dass der netzwerkmanager gar kein wlan fand
[22:15] <guest345968> hier sind sonst so 3-4 im umkreis
[22:15] <vitus> wlan einrichten
[22:22] <guest345968> ich werde mir das nochmal nen bisschen ansehen
[22:23] <guest345968> ist schon spät ^^
[22:23] <guest345968> manchmal rennt die zeit ohne ende
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-bugs
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[17:34] <hjd> Hi :) Could someone please mark bug 533623 as Triaged/Low. Contains enough information to start digging into / easy to work around, nice-to-have not critical feature and from what I can see no duplicates reported either.
[17:41] <hjd> Also is there a tag or other way to mark Ubuntu-specific bugs? I wasn't able to reproduce the issue above in Debian Sid, so it might have been introduced by an Ubuntu delta in some library.
[17:44] <penguin42> hjd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags I don't see anything appropriate?
[18:10] <teward> hjd: if it's an Ubuntu specific bug just file it on Launchpad - if it also affects debian then you'd file a bug against Debian and link it to the Ubuntu bug here on Launchpad, indicating the upstream link.
[18:10] <teward> i don't think there's a 'tag' that is appropriate for what you're trying to mark. A comment to the affect that Debian Unstable is not affected is a good starting point.
[18:10] <teward> (I don't think we need a tag)
[18:22] <hjd> teward: Sure. :) In this case the bug wasn't reproducible in Debian so it doesn't make sense to forward it. Just wondered if there was some way to mark that the bug doesn't appear to be reproducible upstream.
[18:22] <hjd> I added a comment stating I wasn't able to trigger it in Debian Sid.
[18:24] <teward> hjd: then i think that's all you need. looking at the changelogs though I don't see much of a delta between Ubuntu and Debian
[18:24] <teward> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp - expand the Vivid one and you'll see the changelogs from the last version in Utopic
[18:25] <teward> the only changes i see there is that there's string changes for Ubuntu (probably a common delta), and some patches were dropped because included upstream
[18:25] <teward> so i'm not sure where the issue comes up.
[18:29] <teward> (it doesn't immediately appear to me that the delta that exists would keep this issue, but I'm not a gimp expert)
[18:32] <hjd> I don't know either. Didn't see anything immediately suspicious in Ubuntu's gimp patches.
[18:33] <hjd> Since it is related to the behaviour of the dialog, I wonder whether if the actual issue might be located in some underlying library (like gtk2 or something else). I'm afraid I don't know how to test this theory though.
[19:02] <Roanapur> Hello, I have recently installed 15.04 on my laptop. I'm having issues booting under systemd but have no issues booting in upstart. Should I submit a bug under the systemd-boot tag?
[19:02] <penguin42> sounds reasonable - how does it fail?
[19:04] <Roanapur> It asks me to supply a encryption passphase which hasn't been setup.
[19:05] <penguin42> oh that's nasty of it
[19:05] <penguin42> do you have any encrypted partitions at all?
[19:06] <Roanapur> I don't believe so, I encrypt my home folder though. When I use upstart to boot then I am not prompted for any passwords except at the lightdm prompt.
[19:06] <Roanapur> I can get a systemd debug shell but i'm not sure what I should do to effectively submit the report.
[19:07] <penguin42> ok, start by reporting it as a bug, and include that information
[19:09] <Roanapur> Okay, thanks for the help!
[19:10] <penguin42> Roanapur: Does your /etc/fstab look sane?
[19:16] <Roanapur> It looks like it. I have encrypted swap which might be part of the issue
[19:21] <penguin42> ahhhh!
[19:21] <penguin42> Roanapur: Well, if you've got encrypted swap then it needs the key
[19:23] <penguin42> Roanapur: If you've got encrypted swap, then I don't understand how the non-systemd world starts up without asking you
[19:25] <Roanapur> I've done some digging, it looks like its failed silently, swap isnt mounted. I previously had an LTS installed and I done a clean install today, perhaps the same swap is being used?
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2015-04-26-#cloud-init
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[19:37] <smoser> harmw, where would you get a freebsd cloud image ?
[19:50] <harmw> I'd build one myself
[19:50] <harmw> though they do offer vm images
[19:50] <smoser> link ?
[19:50] <smoser> all i see is http://images.openstack.nctu.edu.tw/bsd-cloudinit/
[19:51] <harmw> nono
[19:51] <harmw> thats some other project
[19:51] <harmw> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/VM-IMAGES/
[19:51] <harmw> but those lack cloud, eg. no cloud-init
[19:51] <smoser> do they boot ?
[19:51] <harmw> in a vm, yes
[19:52] <smoser> are they usable ?
[19:52] <smoser> can i ssh in ?
[19:52] <harmw> idk :)
[19:52] <harmw> i've only build my own, using oz
[19:52] <harmw> and installed ci later on
[19:53] <smoser> k. thanks.
[19:55] <smoser> harmw, your mission is to get cloud-init installed in one of those off the shelf images.
[19:55] <smoser> and submit to http://thornelabs.net/2014/06/01/where-to-find-openstack-cloud-images.html on how you did it :)
[19:55] <smoser> harmw, i was just trying to get a freebsd image.
[19:55] <smoser> to add to http://smoser.brickies.net/image-streams/
[19:56] <smoser> that is 'streams' format of data. and you can then sync it into your openstack cloud using http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/simplestreams/example-sync/files
[19:58] <harmw> yea, been wanting to do get ci in an official image
[19:58] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10902086/
[19:58] <harmw> and I'm watching the Hobbit, so quest seems more appropriate
[19:58] <smoser> thats the script that we have syncing smoser-images into our cloud.
[20:03] <smoser> harmw, well, for cloud-init 2, we're going to want c-i testing cluod-init trunk on freebsd.
[20:04] <smoser> so some automated mechanism for doing that wooill be needed.
[20:04] <harmw> ah yes, you sent an e-mail regarding 2.0
[20:04] <harmw> damn
[20:05] <harmw> forgot all about that
[20:06] <harmw> but yes, getting fbsd on par some more is on the short list
[20:06] <harmw> (but that list is already filled beyond everyting :P)
[21:11] <nvucinic> q
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2015-04-26-#ubuntu-nz
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[04:09] <hads> G: I didn't know about 'ESC then num' sequence which works as an alternative.
[04:11] <G> hads: oh thanks
[22:00] <Inspire> hello
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