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Maybe.
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Well , I 'm not sure I 'm not sure that 's a solved problem.
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y Well , but I think
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Oh , OK.
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Right ? Of how to how to generate queries from a
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How to do this from the summary.
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Yeah.
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I , uh
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That was sort of what my question was aimed towards.
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So what you want to h to do is , people who were there , who later see , uh , minutes and s put in summary form , which is not gonna be at the same time as the meeting. There 's no way that can happen. Are we gonna later go over it
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Hmm.
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Right.
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Right.
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and , like , make up some stuff to which these notes would be an answer , or or a deeper Yeah. I mean
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Or or just a memory refresher.
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But that 's done off they have to do that off - line.
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Yep. I agree.
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You
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I 'm also wondering if we could ask the the people a a question which would be " what was the most interesting thing you got out of this meeting ? " Becau - in terms of like informativeness ,
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That 's a good one.
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it might be , you know , that the summary would would not in even include what the person thought was the most interesting fact.
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I would think that would be the most likely thing.
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Dan doesn't know what sex he is.
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Yeah , really.
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But actually I would say that 's a better thing to ask than have them summarize the meeting.
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I think you get two different types of information.
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You get two Yeah , that 's true.
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Yeah.
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Because you get , like , the general structure of important points and what the what the meeting was about.
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Hey.
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Ah
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Yeah.
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We 're still here.
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So you get the general structure , the important points of what the meeting was about with the summary. But with the " what 's the most interesting thing you learned ? " Uh , so the fact that , uh , I know that Transcriber uses Snack is something that I thought was interesting
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Going to see the kids.
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You you can keep it on.
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and that and that Dan worked on on that. So I thought that was really you know. So , I mean , you could ge pick up some of the micro items that wouldn't even occur as major headings
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Mm - hmm.
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but could be very informative.
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Yeah , that 's actually a really good idea.
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I think it wouldn't be too , uh , uh , cost - intensive either. You know , I mean , it 's like something someone can do pretty easily on the spur of the moment.
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Are you thinking about just asking one participant or all of them ?
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As many are willing to do it.
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Make it a voluntary thing ,
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Yeah. Cuz you 'll get cuz you 'll get very different answers from everybody , right ?
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and then Yeah. That 's why I was wondering.
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So
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Well , maybe one thing we could do is for the meetings we 've already done I mean , I we didn't take minutes and we don't have summaries. But , uh , people could , like , listen to them a little bit and generate some queries.
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Yeah.
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Of course Jane doesn't need to. I 'm sure you have that meeting memorized by now.
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Yeah.
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But actually it would be an easy thing to just go around the room and say what was the most interesting thing you learned ,
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Mmm.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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for those pe people willing to stay.
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And that I think it would pick up the micro - structure , the some some of the little things that would be hidden.
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And and that might be something people are willing to stay for.
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Boy , I I don't know how we get at this
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That would be interesting.
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Yeah , but when you go around the room you might just get the effect that somebody says something
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Or want to get up and leave.
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and then you go around the room and they say " yeah , me too , I agree. "
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Me too , me too , me too.
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Yeah.
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That 's fine.
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So
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On the other hand people might try and come up with different ones , right ?
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Well
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They might say " oh , I was gonna say that one but now I have to think of something else ".
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Well , you have the other thing , that that they know why we 're doing it. We 'll I mean , we 'll we 'll be telling them that the reason we 're trying to do this is is to d generate queries in the future , so try to pick things that other people didn't say.
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It 's gonna take some thought. I mean , It seemed The kind of , uh , interest that I had in this thing initially was , uh , that i basically the form that you 're doing something else later ,
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Mm - hmm.
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and you want to pick up something from this meeting related to the something else. So it 's really the imp the the list of what 's important 's in the something else
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Right.
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rather than the
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Mmm.
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And it might be something minor of minor importance to the meeting.
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Mm - hmm.
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Right.
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Uh , in fact if if it was really major , if it 's the thing that really stuck in your head , then you might not need to go back and and and check on it even. So it 's it 's that you 're trying to find You 're you 've now You weren't interested Say I I said " well , I wasn't that much interested in dialogue , I 'm more of an acoustics person ".
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Right.
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But but thr three months from now if for some reason I get really interested in dialogue , and I 'm " well what is what was that part that that that , uh , Mari was saying ? "
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Yeah , like Jim Bass says " add a few lines on dialogue in your next perf "
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Uh
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then I 'm trying to fi I mean , that 's that 's when I look in general when I look things up most , is when it 's something that didn't really stick in my head the first time around and but for some new reason I 'm I 'm I 'm interested in in in the old stuff.
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But that that 's gonna be very hard to generate.
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Well , I That 's hard to generate
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So , I don't I don't know.
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Mm - hmm.
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Do we
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and and I think that 's half of what i I would use it for. But I also a lot of times um , make you know , think to myself " this is interesting ,
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Mm - hmm.
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I 've gotta come back and follow up on it ".
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Mm - hmm. Mm - hmm.
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So , things that I think are interesting , um , I would be , uh , wanting to do a query about. And also , I like the idea of going around the room , because if somebody else thought something was interesting , I 'd kind of want to know about it and then I 'd want to follow up on it.
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Hmm.
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Yeah. That that might get at some of what I was I was concerned about , uh , being interested in something later that w uh , I didn't consider to be important the first time , which for me is actually the dominant thing , because if I thought it was really important it tends to stick more than if I didn't , but some new task comes along that makes me want to look up.
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But But what 's interesting to me may not b have been interesting to you.
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