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Yeah. So having multiple people might get at some of that.
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By so by going around Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah , I I think you can't get at all of it ,
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Yeah.
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right ? W we just need to start somewhere.
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Yeah , and this is a starting point.
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Uh - huh.
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The question the question then is h h how much bias do we introduce by you know , introduce by saying , you know , this was important now and , you know , maybe tha something else is important later ?
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Mm - hmm.
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I mean , does it does the bias matter ? I I don't know. I mean , uh , that 's , I guess , a question for you guys. But
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Well , and and one thing , we we 're saying " important " and we 're saying " interesting ".
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Uh , yeah , yeah.
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And and those those can be two different things.
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Mm - hmm.
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Sure , sure. But I I I guess that 's the question , really , is that I mean ,
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Mm - hmm.
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does building queries based on what 's important now introduce an irreversible bias on being able to do what Morgan wants to do later ?
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Well , irreversible.
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OK , good.
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That 's that 's
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I I I mean , I guess what I what I I keep coming back to in my own mind is that , um , the soonest we can do it , we need to get up some kind of system
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Yeah.
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Right.
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so that people who 've been involved in the meeting can go back later , even if it 's a poor system in some ways , and , uh and ask the questions that they actually want to know. If you know , if uh , as soon as we can get that going at any kind of level , then I think we 'll have a much better handle on what kind of questions people want to ask than in any anything we do before that. But obviously we have to bootstrap somehow ,
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Right.
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and
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Sure.
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Mm - hmm.
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Right.
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I agree.
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I will say that that I I chose " interesting " because I think it includes also " important " in some cases. But , um , I I I feel like the summary gets at a different type of information.
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I think " important " can often be uninteresting.
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Mmm.
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Mmm. And " interesting " is more interesting than " important ".
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Hmm.
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Well , and and also i it puts a lot of burden on the person to to evaluate. You know , I think inter " interesting " is is non - threatening in
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OK - OK.
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Yeah.
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In the interest of , um ,
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Importance ?
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Yeah.
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generati generating an interesting summary , um
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Mm - hmm. Yeah.
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No , i in the interest of generating some minutes here , uh , and also moving on to action items and other things , let me just go through the things that I wrote down as being important , um , that we at least decided on. CrossPads we were going to try , um , if Landay can get the , uh get them to to you guys , um , and see if they 're interesting. And if they are , then we 'll try to get m do it more. Um , getting electronic summary from a note - taking person if they happen to do it anyway.
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Mm - hmm.
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Um , getting just , uh , digital pictures a couple digital pictures of the the table and boards to set the context of the meeting. Uh , and then going around the room at the end to just say qu ask people to mention something interesting that they learned. So rather than say the most interesting thing , something interesting ,
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and that way you 'll get more variety.
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Sure.
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Mm - hmm.
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I wouldn't even say that " that they learned ".
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That 's good. I like that. I like that.
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OK.
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Yeah.
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Uh , you might want to mention something that that you brought up.
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" Thing that was discussed. " And then the last thing c would be for those people who are willing to stay afterwards and give an oral summary.
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Mm - hmm.
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OK ? Does that pretty much cover everything we talked about ? That well , that we want to do ?
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Mm - hmm. A And one and one qualification on on the oral summaries. They 'd be s they 'd be separate. They wouldn't be hearing each other 's summaries.
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OK.
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Yeah , that 's like n I think that 's gonna predominantly end up being whoever takes down the equipment then.
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And and that would also be that the data would be included in the database.
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Yeah , that would be , let 's see , me.
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Mm - hmm.
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Mm - hmm.
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I mean , there is still this hope that people might actually think of real queries they really want to ask at some point.
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OK.
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And that if if that ever should happen , then we should try and write them down.
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Mm - hmm.
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Right.
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Mm - hmm.
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Give them a reward , a dollar a query ?
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Yeah , really.
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Yeah.
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If they 're real queries.
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OK. So
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Well , and again , if we can figure out a way to jimmy a a a a very rough system , say in a year , then uh , so that in the second and third years we we actually have something to
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Play with and generate real queries from.
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ask queries.
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Right. OK.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So. Yeah.
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Uh
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I think I just wanted to say one thing about queries. I mean , the level of the query could be , you know , very low - level or very high - level. And it gets fuzzier and fuzzier as you go up , right ?
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Well , we 're gonna
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So you need to have some sort of if you start working with queries , some way of identifying what the you know , if this is something that requires a a one - word answer or it 's one place in the recording versus was there general agreement on this issue of all the people who ha
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Hmm.
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You know , you can gen you can ask queries that are meaningful for people.
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Yep.
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In fact , they 're very meaningful cuz they 're very high - level. But they won't exist anywhere in the a you know
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Absolutely. So I think we 're gonna have to start with keywords
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Mm - hmm.
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and and if someone becomes more interested we could work our way up.
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I I 'm I I 'm not so sure I agree with that.
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It But it may well
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But
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Because uh , b because it depends on , uh , what our goal is.
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