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false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_78 |
false | I think with | QMSum_78 |
false | the to speech - nonspeech as | QMSum_78 |
false | That 's right. But I think Javier 's | QMSum_78 |
false | it 's only speech or it 's it 's it 's nonspeech. | QMSum_78 |
false | Ah. Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_78 |
false | I think Javier 's might be able to. | QMSum_78 |
false | So. | QMSum_78 |
false | N n | QMSum_78 |
false | It doesn't have the same Gaus - uh , H M M modeling , | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | which is I think a drawback. | QMSum_78 |
false | OK. | QMSum_78 |
false | But , uh | QMSum_78 |
false | Well , it 's sort of has a simple one. | QMSum_78 |
false | Mmm , yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | Does it ? | QMSum_78 |
false | Right ? It 's it 's just it 's just a isn't it just a Gaussian | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | for each ? | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. And then he ch you choose optimal splitting. | QMSum_78 |
false | Hmm. | QMSum_78 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. Oh , it doesn't have it doesn't have any temporal , uh ? | QMSum_78 |
false | Maybe I 'm misremembering , but I did not think it had a Markov | QMSum_78 |
false | I thought it Yeah. I gues I guess I don't remember either. Uh. It 's been a while. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. Uh , I could have a look at it. | QMSum_78 |
false | Javier | QMSum_78 |
false | Uh. | QMSum_78 |
false | So. | QMSum_78 |
false | You mean Ja - eh , eh , Javier program ? | QMSum_78 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_78 |
false | No , Javier di doesn't worked with , uh , a Markov | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah , I didn't think so. | QMSum_78 |
false | He on only train | QMSum_78 |
false | Oh , OK. So he 's just he just computes a Gaussian over potential | QMSum_78 |
false | Yep. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. It was only Gaussian. | QMSum_78 |
false | Oh , I see. I see. | QMSum_78 |
false | And so I I think it would work fine for detecting overlap. | QMSum_78 |
false | This is the idea. | QMSum_78 |
false | And and | QMSum_78 |
false | It 's just , uh , that i it he has the two - pass issue that What he does is , as a first pass he he p he does , um , a guess at where the divisions might be and he overestimates. And that 's just a data reduction step , so that you 're not trying at every time interval. | QMSum_78 |
false | OK. | QMSum_78 |
false | And so those are the putative places where he tries. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. OK. | QMSum_78 |
false | And right now he 's doing that with silence and that doesn't work with the Meeting Recorder. So if we used another method to get the first pass , I think it would probably work. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah , OK. | QMSum_78 |
false | It 's a good method. As long as the len as long the segments are long enough. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | That 's the other problem. | QMSum_78 |
false | So | QMSum_78 |
false | O - k OK. So let me go back to what you had , though. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | Um. | QMSum_78 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_78 |
false | The other thing one could do is Couldn't I mean , it 's So you have two categories | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | and you have Markov models for each. Couldn't you have a third category ? So you have , uh you have , uh , nonspeech , single - person speech , and multiple - person speech ? | QMSum_78 |
false | He has this on his board actually. Don't you have , like those those several different categories on the board ? | QMSum_78 |
false | Right ? And then you have a Markov model for each ? | QMSum_78 |
false | Um I 'm not sure. I I thought about , uh , adding , uh , uh , another class too. But it 's not too easy , I think , the the transition between the different class , to model them in in the system I have now. But it it it could be possible , I think , | QMSum_78 |
false | I see. I see. | QMSum_78 |
false | in principle. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah , I mean , I This is all pretty gross. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | I mean , the th the reason why , uh , I was suggesting originally that we look at features is because I thought , well , we 're doing something we haven't done before , | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | we should at least look at the space and understand | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | It seems like if two people two or more people talk at once , it should get louder , | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | uh , and , uh , uh , there should be some discontinuity in pitch contours , | QMSum_78 |
false | I had the impression. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | and , uh , there should overall be a , um , smaller proportion of the total energy that is explained by any particular harmonic sequence in the spectrum. | QMSum_78 |
false | Right. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | So those are all things that should be there. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_78 |
false | So far , um , uh , Jose has has been By the way , I was told I should be calling you Pepe , but | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | by your friends , but Anyway , | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | um , uh , the has has , uh , been exploring , uh , e largely the energy issue and , um , as with a lot of things , it is not uh , like this , it 's not as simple as it sounds. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | And then there 's , you know Is it energy ? Is it log energy ? Is it LPC residual energy ? Is it is it is it , uh , delta of those things ? Uh , what is it no Obviously , just a simple number absolute number isn't gonna work. So it should be with compared to what ? Should there be a long window for the normalizing factor and a short window for what you 're looking at ? | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | Or , you know , how b short should they be ? So , | QMSum_78 |
false | Hmm. | QMSum_78 |
false | th he 's been playing around with a lot of these different things and and so far at least has not come up with any combination that really gave you an indicator. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | So I I still have a hunch that there 's it 's in there some place , but it may be given that you have a limited time here , it it just may not be the best thing to to to focus on for the remaining of it. | QMSum_78 |
false | Yeah. To overrule , yeah. | QMSum_78 |
false | So pitch - related and harmonic - related , I 'm I 'm somewhat more hopeful for it. | QMSum_78 |
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