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false | That 's that 's great. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | Uh. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | Do we have an agenda ? Liz Liz and Andreas can't sh can't uh , can't come. | QMSum_135 |
false | I do. | QMSum_135 |
false | So , they won't be here. | QMSum_135 |
false | I have agenda and it 's all me. | QMSum_135 |
false | Did | QMSum_135 |
false | Cuz no one sent me anything else. | QMSum_135 |
false | Did they send , uh , the messages to you about the meeting today ? | QMSum_135 |
false | I have no idea but I just got it a few minutes ago. | QMSum_135 |
false | Oh. | QMSum_135 |
false | Right when you were in my office it arrived. | QMSum_135 |
false | Oh. OK , cuz I checked my mail. I didn't have anything. | QMSum_135 |
false | So , does anyone have any a agenda items other than me ? I actually have one more also which is to talk about the digits. | QMSum_135 |
false | Uh , right , so so I I was just gonna talk briefly about the NSF ITR. | QMSum_135 |
false | Mm - hmm. Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | Oh , great. | QMSum_135 |
false | Uh , and then , you have | QMSum_135 |
false | Can w | QMSum_135 |
false | I mean , I won't say much , but uh , but then , uh , you said wanna talk about digits ? | QMSum_135 |
false | I have a short thing about digits and then uh I wanna talk a little bit about naming conventions , although it 's unclear whether this is the right place to talk about it. So maybe just talk about it very briefly and take the details to the people who for whom it 's relevant. | QMSum_135 |
false | Right. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | I could always say something about transcription. I 've been but but uh , well | QMSum_135 |
false | Well if we Yeah , we shouldn't add things in just to add things in. I 'm actually pretty busy today , | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | so if we can we | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah , yeah , yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | a short meeting would be fine. | QMSum_135 |
false | This does sound like we 're doing fine , yeah. That won't do. | QMSum_135 |
false | So the only thing I wanna say about digits is , we are pretty much done with the first test set. There are probably forms here and there that are marked as having been read that weren't really read. So I won't really know until I go through all the transcriber forms and extract out pieces that are in error. So I wa Uh. Two things. The first is what should we do about digits that were misread ? My opinion is , um , we should just throw them out completely , and have them read again by someone else. You know , the grouping is completely random , | QMSum_135 |
false | Uh - huh. | QMSum_135 |
false | so it it 's perfectly fine to put a a group together again of errors and have them re - read , just to finish out the test set. | QMSum_135 |
false | Oh ! By throw them out completely ? | QMSum_135 |
false | Um , the other thing you could do is change the transcript to match what they really said. So those are those are the two options. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_135 |
false | But there 's often things where people do false starts. I know I 've done it , where I say say a | QMSum_135 |
false | What the transcribers did with that is if they did a correction , and they eventually did read the right string , you extract the right string. | QMSum_135 |
false | Oh , you 're talking about where they completely read the wrong string and didn't correct it ? | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. And didn't notice. Which happens in a few places. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | Ah. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | So so | QMSum_135 |
false | Well , and s and you 're talking string - wise , you 're not talking about the entire page ? | QMSum_135 |
false | Correct. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | I get it. | QMSum_135 |
false | And so the the two options are change the transcript to match what they really said , but then but then the transcript isn't the Aurora test set anymore. I don't think that really matters because the conditions are so different. And that would be a little easier. | QMSum_135 |
false | Well how many are how how often does that happen ? | QMSum_135 |
false | Mmm , five or six times. | QMSum_135 |
false | Oh , so it 's not very much. | QMSum_135 |
false | No , it 's not much at all. | QMSum_135 |
false | Seems like we should just change the transcripts | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | OK. | QMSum_135 |
false | to match. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah , it 's five or six times out of thousands ? | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | Four thousand. | QMSum_135 |
false | Four thousand ? | QMSum_135 |
false | Four thous Ah ! Four thousand. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah , it 's | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah , I would , uh , tak do the easy way , | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | OK. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | It it 's kinda nice I mean , wh who knows what studies people will be doing on on speaker - dependent things | QMSum_135 |
false | Mmm. | QMSum_135 |
false | and so I think having having it all | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_135 |
false | the speakers who we had is is at least interesting. | QMSum_135 |
false | So you um , how many digits have been transcribed now ? | QMSum_135 |
false | Four thousand lines. And each line is between one and about ten digits. | QMSum_135 |
false | Four thousand lines ? | QMSum_135 |
false | I didn't I didn't compute the average. I think the average was around four or five. | QMSum_135 |
false | So that 's a couple hours of of , uh , speech , probably. | QMSum_135 |
false | Wow. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yep. Yep. | QMSum_135 |
false | Which is a yeah reasonable reasonable test set. | QMSum_135 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_135 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_135 |
false | And , Jane , I do have a set of forms which I think you have copies of somewhere. | QMSum_135 |
false | Mm - hmm. Yeah , true. | QMSum_135 |
false | Oh you do ? Oh OK , good , good. | QMSum_135 |
false | Mm - hmm. Mm - hmm. | QMSum_135 |
false | Yeah , I was just wond I thought I had had all of them back from you. And then the other thing is that , uh , the forms in front of us here that we 're gonna read later , were suggested by Liz | QMSum_135 |
false | No , not yet. | QMSum_135 |
false | because she wanted to elicit some different prosodics from digits. And so , uh , I just wanted people to , take a quick look at the instructions | QMSum_135 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_135 |
false | Eight eight two two two nine. | QMSum_135 |
false | and the way it wa worked and see if it makes sense and if anyone has any comments on it. | QMSum_135 |
false | I see. And the decision here , uh , was to continue with uh the words rather than the the numerics. | QMSum_135 |
false | Uh , yes , although we could switch it back. The problem was O and zero. Although we could switch it back and tell them always to say " zero " or always to say " O ". | QMSum_135 |
false | Oh | QMSum_135 |
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