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false | So , you take the query , and and | QMSum_45 |
false | On the other hand , uh , FrameNet could well be useful. So do you know the FrameNet story ? | QMSum_45 |
false | Um , yeah. Uh , not not too much , | QMSum_45 |
false | OK. | QMSum_45 |
false | but uh , | QMSum_45 |
false | Oh. Th - that 's another thing you might wanna look into while you 're here. | QMSum_45 |
false | I have a rough overview. | QMSum_45 |
false | Because , um , you know , the standard story is that keyworks keywords evoke frames , and the frames may well give you additional keywords or uh , if you know that that that a a bunch of keywords uh , indicate a frame , then you can find documents that actually have the whole frame , rather th than just uh , individual | QMSum_45 |
false | Mmm. Mmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | So there 's a lot of stuff , and people are looking at that. Most of the work here is just trying to get the frames right. There 's linguists and stuff and there 's a lot of it and they 're they 're busily working away. But there are some application efforts trying to exploit it. And this looks t it seems to be that this is a place where you might be able to do that. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I 'm sure I could learn a lot about um , yeah , just how to how to come up with these structures , | QMSum_45 |
false | Mmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | cuz it 's it 's very easy to whip up something quickly , but it maybe then makes sense to to me , but not to anybody else , and and if we want to share and integrate things , they must well , they must be well designed really. | QMSum_45 |
false | Remember the uh , Prashant story ? | QMSum_45 |
false | Right. | QMSum_45 |
false | The absolutely no no linguistic background person that the IU sent over here. | QMSum_45 |
false | Right. | QMSum_45 |
false | And Andreas and I tried to come up wi or we had come up actually with a eh with him working on an interface for FrameNet , as it was back then , that would p do some of the work for this machine , | QMSum_45 |
false | Right. Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | which uh , never got done because Prashant found a happy occupation | QMSum_45 |
false | W yeah , I know , I mean it it he w he did w what what he did was much more s sensible for him. | QMSum_45 |
false | which in the Absolutely. Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | I think uh , | QMSum_45 |
false | But so I 'm just saying , the uh , we had that idea | QMSum_45 |
false | you know Yeah. The idea was there. Yeah , OK. | QMSum_45 |
false | uh to to exploit FrameNet there as well. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | Hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | And um. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah , actually you guys never | QMSum_45 |
false | And Srini 's doing information extraction also , right ? | QMSum_45 |
false | Right. | QMSum_45 |
false | with that FrameNet base. | QMSum_45 |
false | Mmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | So you you guys never sent anybody else from I U. | QMSum_45 |
false | Except except Prashant ? | QMSum_45 |
false | You were y no Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | Um , | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh , this was supposedly an exchange program , and I we you know , it 's fine. We don't care , but it just I 'm a little surprised that uh , Andreas didn't come up with anyone else he wanted to send. | QMSum_45 |
false | Hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh I don't know , I mean the uh | QMSum_45 |
false | Alright. I mean I had forgotten a I To be honest with you , I 'd totally forgotten we had a program. | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh it 's in the program ? | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh I I think it 's it 's really the lack of students uh , at IU at the moment. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. Yeah. No , no. There was a whole co There was a little contract signed. It was Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah , yeah. I think it 's ju it 's more the lack of of students , really , and w we have all these sponsors that are always sort of eager to get some teams. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah , I know. | QMSum_45 |
false | Mmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | Right. | QMSum_45 |
false | But | QMSum_45 |
false | Right. | QMSum_45 |
false | Well I mean if if I were a student , I 'd love to come here , rather than work for some German company , or | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. Right. | QMSum_45 |
false | You are being recorded right now , so beware. | QMSum_45 |
false | Oh , right ! | QMSum_45 |
false | Well , I didn't say anybody to anything to offend well , except for the sponsors maybe , but | QMSum_45 |
false | Right. Anyway. Right. So I thi tha that 's that 's one of the things that might be worth looking into while you 're here. | QMSum_45 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh , unfortunately , Srini , who is heavily involved in DAML and all this sort of stuff is himself out of town. | QMSum_45 |
false | Mm - hmm. Well I 'll go to the uh , Semantic Web Workshop , uh , in two weeks. | QMSum_45 |
false | Right , and Yeah , for for some reason he 's not doing that. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. Well , he had other things to do. | QMSum_45 |
false | I don't know why he @ @ oh , I , who knows ? | QMSum_45 |
false | The uh | QMSum_45 |
false | Anyway , s yeah , you 'll see you 'll certainly see a lot of the people there. | QMSum_45 |
false | The other person I thought of is Dan Gildea ? because he did some work on topic spotting | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. St - statistical stuff. That would be a very good idea. | QMSum_45 |
false | w um , which is , I mean , you I mean. I don't Depending on how well you wanna integrate with that end , | QMSum_45 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | you know , like , taking the data and fig you said the learning systems that figure out We There 's someone in ICSI who actually has been working on has worked on that kinda stuff , and he 's worked with frame net , so you could talk to him about , you know , both of those things at once. | QMSum_45 |
false | Mm - hmm. Mm - hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | So. And he just finished writing a draft of his thesis. So. I u Dan Gildea , GILDEA. | QMSum_45 |
false | So , uh , who is that again ? | QMSum_45 |
false | And , he 's in one of the rooms on the fifth floor and stuff , | QMSum_45 |
false | Who ? I can take you to his office. | QMSum_45 |
false | and | QMSum_45 |
false | It 's just around the corner. | QMSum_45 |
false | OK , great. | QMSum_45 |
false | Hmm. Well , if you fal solve the problem , hope you can do one for us too. | QMSum_45 |
false | Alright , was there anything else for this ? One of these times soon we 're gonna hear about construal. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. I 'm sure. I have um I think it was November two thousand three or some No. Wh - I had something in my calendar. | QMSum_45 |
false | Oh , OK. Right. | QMSum_45 |
false | Um , | QMSum_45 |
false | Wait a second. That 's a long way away. | QMSum_45 |
false | Good thinking ! | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh well , maybe I can I can bribe my way out of this. So. So I did some double checking and it seems like spring break in two thousand one. | QMSum_45 |
false | Talk about changing the topic. | QMSum_45 |
false | No. | QMSum_45 |
false | Well , no , but he 's he 's he 's he 's as you said , he 's , like the state legislature , he 's trying to offer us bribes. | QMSum_45 |
false | At least this is a private meeting. Right , exactly , OK , that 's the link. | QMSum_45 |
false | This uh Oh , they refused the budget again ? Is it so about CITRIS ? Yeah , still nothing. | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh , this this this t the s we 're , uh , involved in a literally three hundred million dollar uh , program. Uh , with the State of California. And , the State of California is now a month and a half behind its legis its legally required date to approve a budget. So the budget has not been approved. And two days ago There 's two l you know , so , two branches of legislature. One branch approved it , | QMSum_45 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | and , um , yesterdayday there was this uh uh I thought that the other branch would just approve it , but now there 's actually a little back sliding to people who who approved it got flak from there , eh anyway. So , um Oh ! I have to tell you a wonderful story about this , OK ? And then we 'll go. So , I it turns out I wound up having lunch today with a guy named Tom Kalil. KILL KALIL. And , uh , he now works at Berkeley. In fact he 's hired to run a lot of CITRIS , even though we don't have the money they So they 've been hiring people right and left , so , uh , they think the money 's coming. So and he was , I think , the chief staffer to Clinton on technology matters. He was in the White House , I don't remember what he was saying. A anyway , like that. And , is now doing all the politics for CITRIS , but also , has a uh , a lot of interest in uh , actually doing things for society , so digital divide and stuff like that. So that 's s interesting to me but maybe not to you. But the really interesting thing was , he st he s he s said something about , you know I 'm interested in things that have high social multiplier , something that is of great social value. He said , " for example " , this was his only example , " if you had a adult literacy program that was as good as an individual tutor , and as compelling as a video game , then that would have a huge social impact ". I said , " Oh great ! That 's a good problem to work on. " Anyway. So it was nice that uh , he 's got this view , of A , that 's what you should try to do , and B , uh , language would be a good way to do it. | QMSum_45 |
false | Mmm. Definitely. | QMSum_45 |
false | So that 's So anyway , that 's the end of the story. | QMSum_45 |
false | But for adults and not for the children. | QMSum_45 |
false | This was Yeah. I didn't push him on the ch on the child thing , | QMSum_45 |
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