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false | Yeah. | QMSum_51 |
false | Um then celebration. | QMSum_51 |
false | Celebration. | QMSum_51 |
false | Cel celebration yes , yes. | QMSum_51 |
false | Ah. | QMSum_51 |
false | Today we have apple juice and after we sell m million of 'em we have champagne. | QMSum_51 |
false | So I I thank you all very much. Um , I think this was very good and um | QMSum_51 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_51 |
false | Mm-hmm. | QMSum_51 |
false | I think we did come up with a new product that's uh feasible. Feasible from the production point of view and feasible from a marketing point of view. | QMSum_51 |
false | Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. | QMSum_51 |
false | So , thank you. | QMSum_51 |
false | Okay. | QMSum_51 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_51 |
false | Thank you. | QMSum_51 |
false | Thank you very much. | QMSum_51 |
false | Okay. Watch I I have my cord behind you here. | QMSum_51 |
false | Okay. | QMSum_51 |
false | Okay. | QMSum_51 |
false | I always get it on here , but getting it off is | QMSum_51 |
false | Do we do we have some time left ? Uh you have | QMSum_51 |
false | They say it's forty minutes. | QMSum_51 |
false | Ah yes we have time later | QMSum_51 |
false | But we we were told we could end the final meeting at any time , whenever we felt we were finished. | QMSum_51 |
false | but we don't | QMSum_51 |
false | Okay. | QMSum_51 |
false | Oh , alright. | QMSum_51 |
false | It'll take me the rest of the time to get my microphone out from my necklace. Oh , there we go. | QMSum_51 |
false | Why ? | QMSum_45 |
false | Um. | QMSum_45 |
false | I 'm known. I | QMSum_45 |
false | No , cuz she already told me it , before she told you. | QMSum_45 |
false | No , she told me a long time ago. She told me she told me like two weeks ago. | QMSum_45 |
false | Oh , well , it doesn't matter what time. | QMSum_45 |
false | OK. You know how to toggle the display width function | QMSum_45 |
false | Well maybe she hadn't just started transcribing me yet. | QMSum_45 |
false | Wow. | QMSum_45 |
false | Anyway. | QMSum_45 |
false | What is it ? | QMSum_45 |
false | Let me explain something to you. | QMSum_45 |
false | Um , | QMSum_45 |
false | My laugh is better than yours. | QMSum_45 |
false | there. | QMSum_45 |
false | I beg to differ. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yo. | QMSum_45 |
false | Um , OK. | QMSum_45 |
false | But you have to say something genuinely funny before you 'll get an example. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | The thing is I don't know how to get to the next page. Here. | QMSum_45 |
false | No. You should be at least be self - satisfied enough to laugh at your own jokes. | QMSum_45 |
false | Actually I thought | QMSum_45 |
false | No , it 's a different laugh. | QMSum_45 |
false | There. | QMSum_45 |
false | Ooh , wow ! | QMSum_45 |
false | How weird. | QMSum_45 |
false | Oh ! Holy mackerel. | QMSum_45 |
false | Wow. Whoa ! | QMSum_45 |
false | What ? ! Oh. OK. I wasn't even doing anything. OK. | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh. | QMSum_45 |
false | Eva 's got a laptop , she 's trying to show it off. | QMSum_45 |
false | That was r actually Robert 's idea. But anyhow. Um | QMSum_45 |
false | O K. So , here we are. | QMSum_45 |
false | Once again. | QMSum_45 |
false | Once again , right , together. Um , so we haven't had a meeting for a while , and and probably won't have one next week , I think a number of people are gone. Um , so Robert , why don't you bring us up to date on where we are with EDU ? | QMSum_45 |
false | Um , uh in a in a smaller group we had uh , talked and decided about continuation of the data collection. So Fey 's time with us is almost officially over , and she brought us some thirty subjects and , t collected the data , and ten dialogues have been transcribed and can be looked at. If you 're interested in that , talk to me. Um , and we found another uh , cogsci student who 's interested in playing wizard for us. Here we 're gonna make it a little bit more complicated for the subjects , uh this round. She 's actually suggested to look um , at the psychology department students , because they have to partake in two experiments in order to fulfill some requirements. So they have to be subjected , before they can actually graduate. And um , we want to design it so that they really have to think about having some time , two days , for example , to plan certain things and figure out which can be done at what time , and , um , sort of package the whole thing in a in a re in a few more complicated um , structure. That 's for the data collection. As for SmartKom , I 'm the last SmartKom meeting I mentioned that we have some problems with the synthesis , which as of this morning should be resolved. And , so , | QMSum_45 |
false | Good. | QMSum_45 |
false | " should be " means they aren't yet , but but I think I have the info now that I need. Plus , Johno and I are meeting tomorrow , so maybe uh uh , when tomorrow is over , we 're done. And ha n hav we 'll never have to look at it again Maybe it 'll take some more time , to be realistic , but at least we 're we 're seeing the end of the tunnel there. That was that. Um , the uh , uh I don't think we need to discuss the formalism that 'll be done officially s once we 're done. Um , something happened , in on Eva 's side with the PRM that we 're gonna look at today , and um , we have a visitor from Bruchsal from the International University. Andreas , I think you 've met everyone except Nancy. | QMSum_45 |
false | Sorry. Hi. Hi. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | Hi. Hi. | QMSum_45 |
false | So when you said " Andreas " I thought you were talking about Stolcke. | QMSum_45 |
false | And , um , | QMSum_45 |
false | Now I know that we aren't , OK. | QMSum_45 |
false | Andy , you actually go by Andy , right ? Oh , OK. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | Eh | QMSum_45 |
false | Cuz there is another Andreas around , | QMSum_45 |
true | Hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | so , to avoid some confusion. | QMSum_45 |
false | That will be Reuter ? Oh , OK. | QMSum_45 |
false | Yeah. | QMSum_45 |
false | So my scientific director of the EML is also the dean of the International University , one of his many occupations that just contributes to the fact that he is very occupied. And , um , the um , he @ @ might tell us a little bit about what he 's actually doing , and why it is s somewhat related , and by uh using maybe some of the same technologies that we are using. And um. Was that enough of an update ? | QMSum_45 |
false | I think so. | QMSum_45 |
false | In what order shall we proceed ? | QMSum_45 |
false | OK. | QMSum_45 |
false | Maybe you have your on - line | QMSum_45 |
false | Uh , yeah , sure. Um , so , I 've be just been looking at , um , Ack ! What are you doing ? Yeah. OK. Um , I 've been looking at the PRM stuff. Um , so , this is , sort of like the latest thing I have on it , and I sorta constructed a couple of classes. Like , a user class , a site class , and and you know , a time , a route , and then and a query class. And I tried to simplify it down a little bit , so that I can actually um , look at it more. It 's the same paper that I gave to Jerry last time. Um , so basically I took out a lot of stuff , a lot of the decision nodes , and then tried to The red lines on the , um , graph are the um , relations between the different um , classes. Like , a user has like , a query , and then , also has , you know um , reference slots to its preferences , um , the special needs and , you know , money , and the user interest. And so this is more or less similar to the flat Bayes - net that I have , you know , with the input nodes and all that. And So I tried to construct the dependency models , and a lot of these stuff I got from the flat Bayes - net , and what they depend on , and it turns out , you know , the CPT 's are really big , if I do that , so I tried to see how I can do , um put in the computational nodes in between. And what that would look like in a PRM. And so I ended up making several classes Actually , you know , a class of with different attributes that are the intermediate nodes , and one of them is like , time affordability money affordability , site availability , and the travel compatibility. And so some of these classes are s some of these attributes only depend on stuff from , say , the user , or s f just from , I don't know , like the site. S like , um , these here , it 's only like , user , but , if you look at travel compatibility for each of these factors , you need to look at a pair of , you know , what the um , preference of the user is versus , you know , what type of an event it is , or you know , which form of transportation the user has and whether , you know , the onsite parking matters to the user , in that case. And that makes the scenario a little different in a PRM , because , um , then you have one - user objects and potentially you can have many different sites in in mind. And so for each of the site you 'll come up with this rating , of travel compatibility. And , they all depend on the same users , but different sites , and that makes a I 'm tr I w I wa have been trying to see whether the PRM would make it more efficient if we do inferencing like that. And so , I guess you end up having fewer number of nodes than in a flat Bayes - net , cuz otherwise you would c well , it 's probably the same. But um , No , you would definitely have be able to re - use , like , um , all the user stuff , and not not having to recompute a lot of the stuff , because it 's all from the user side. So if you changed sites , you you can , you know , save some work on that. But , you know , in the case where , it depends on both the user and the site , then I 'm still having a hard time trying to see how um , using the PRM will help. Um , so anyhow , using those intermediate nodes then , this this would be the class that represent the intermediate nodes. And that would basically it 's just another class in the model , with , you know , references to the user and the site and the time. And then , after you group them together this no the dependencies would of the queries would be reduced to this. And so , you know , it 's easier to specify the CPT and all. Um , so I think that 's about as far as I 've gone on the PRM stuff. | QMSum_45 |
false | Well | QMSum_45 |
false | Right. | QMSum_45 |
false | No. So y you didn't yet tell us what the output is. | QMSum_45 |
false | The output. | QMSum_45 |
false | So what decisions does this make ? | QMSum_45 |
false | OK. So it only makes two decisions , in this model. And one is basically how desirable a site is meaning , um , how good it matches the needs of a user. And the other is the mode of the visit , whether th It 's the EVA decision. Um , so , instead of um , doing a lot of , you know , computation about , you know , which one site it wants of the user wants to visit , I 'll come well , try to come up with like , sort of a list of sites. And for each site , you know , where h how how well it fits , and basically a rating of how well it fits and what to do with it. So. Anything else I missed ? | QMSum_45 |
false | So that was pretty quick. She 's ac uh uh Eva 's got a little write - up on it that uh , probably gives the the details to anybody who needs them. Um , so the You you didn't look at all yet to see if there 's anybody has a implementation. | QMSum_45 |
false | No , not yet , um | QMSum_45 |
false | OK. So one so one of the questions , you know , about these P R Ms is | QMSum_45 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | uh , we aren't gonna build our own interpreter , so if if we can't find one , then we uh , go off and do something else and wait until s one appears. Uh , so one of the things that Eva 's gonna do over the next few weeks is see if we can track that down. Uh , the people at Stanford write papers as if they had one , but , um , we 'll see. So w Anyway. So that 's a a major open issue. If there is an interpreter , it looks like you know , what Eva 's got should run and we should be able to actually um , try to solve , you know , the problems , to actually take the data , and do it. Uh , and we 'll see. Uh , I actually think it is cleaner , and the ability to instantiate , you know , instance of people and sites and stuff , um , will help in the expression. Whether the inference gets any faster or not I don't know. Uh , it wouldn't surprise me if it if it doesn't. | QMSum_45 |
false | Mm - hmm. | QMSum_45 |
false | You know , it 's the same kind of information. I think there are things that you can express this way which you can't express in a normal belief - net , uh , without going to some incredible hacking of sort of rebuilding it on the fly. I mean , the notion of instantiating your el elements from the ontology and stuff fits this very nicely and doesn't fit very well into the extended belief - net. So that was one of the main reasons for doing it. Um. I don't know. So , uh , people who have thought about the problem , like Robert i it looked to me like if Eva were able to come up with a you know , value for each of a number of uh , sites plus its EVA thing , that a travel planner should be able to take it from there. And you know , with some other information about how much time the person has and whatever , and then plan a route. | QMSum_45 |
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