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I have read -just today- two articles dripping of hate and offence to a great deal of people. I could find as much matching hatred in your articles as I have found in some of the self-righteous "Kill-in-the-name of God" people. I don't know why you are so attcaking to everyone, is it a reaction to the hatred calls on this newsgroup, or is it a reaction to hardships you have seen and experienced from before... I have learnt not to judge people by only what they say, but rather try to put myself in their place and aspire to understand their feelings. I hope you would be able to do the same with everyone, starting by your ownself, because only through that you could be able to understand your feelings and act in a the manner you would aspire everyone to adopt. Thanks for your time
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HELP! I just received my Falcon 2.2.1 upgrade from Spectrum Holobyte today. My SE is running Sys 7.0.1 with 4mb of RAM. Like the instructions said, I only installed Disk 2 (The program...no start up screen or music). I just downloaded Macsbug from ftp.apple.com like it said, and installed it in my System folder. I restarted the mac an hour later, and it wouldn't completely boot off the internal HD. I get the "happy mac", then it disappears, only to reappear and repeat the cycle continuously. I never even get the "Welcome to Macintosh" message. Norton utilities fixed about 12 new problems, but the same thing still happened. What do I do? Please e-mail to "[email protected]" THANKS IN ADVANCE!!! Victor Orly ;
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Here! Here! But any call for responsibility and accountability from police is invariably interpreted as being "soft on crime". Being "tough on crime" and building more prisons and seizing more property is the politically astute thing to do these days. And citizen complacency! Don't forget the politicians that write the laws that make it easy for the police agencies to become corrupt. The War on Some Drugs brought us this corruption and only an end to it (legalization) will stop the corruption.
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I don't doubt that this will be the attitude of many corporate leaders. It's understandable--most corporate execs don't know much about cryptology, and it's easy to get taken in by someone peddling snake oil. And, the proposed scheme *is* a major improvement in telephone security to what exists now. The problem is that, with any security scheme of this kind, you have to concern yourself with the weakest link in the chain. I suspect that NSA has put a fairly strong encryption algorithm in this wiretap chip of theirs, probably at least as strong as (say) DES in OFB-mode. Unfortunately, the existence of the key-registry system seems to make possible all kinds of possible attacks at a small fraction of the expense of trying to build (say) a DES keysearch machine. As originally described, it sounded like any police / court combination could acquire the key for a given chip. I hope that's not the case, since it would imply a glaring hole. (How much does it cost to find *one* crooked jodge and *one* crooked cop? Especially for a foreign intelligence agency or organized crime boss?) However, even if more intelligent schemes are used to allow access to the unencrypted phone conversations, there will be weak- nesses. They may be very expensive, and very difficult. But who would trust his/her confidential information to an encryption scheme that, for (say) $100,000 could by cracked one time in a hundred? (DES, for all the complaints about a 56-bit key, would probably cost several million dollars to build a keysearch machine for.) How many million dollars would the confidential phone messages of the GM headquarters be worth to Nissan, Chrysler, or Audi? How about home phones of major execs and important engineers and designers? "Gee, Mr Jones, I understand you've had some financial problems lately. Maybe I can help..." Indeed, if NSA really designed the algorithm to be secure, it's very likely as secure as IDEA or 2-key DES. However, the system as a whole isn't resistant to "practical cryptanalysis." In _The Puzzle Palace_, Bamford describes how several NSA employees were turned by foreign (presumably KGB) agents, despite security measures that I doubt any Big 8 accounting firm could match. And NSA confidential data was *not* subject to being requested by thousands of police organizations and courts across the land.
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Hi, I'm looking to buy a 17" monitor soon, and it seems that I can't decide what monitor I should buy. I have a MAG 17S (this is a .25 dpi version and it using a TRINITON tube) and a NANAO 560i in mind. Does anyone know of any specification or problems these monitor have? Actually, any related opinions at buying a 17" monitor will be welcomed. Thanks in advance,
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Hi, Right now I should do some characterization of opamps. Because I don't have special equipment for this task, I have to do this job with relativly simple equipments (Frequency sweeper, DSO, etc.). Does anyone know good test circuitry for characterization of opamps? Especially for measuring open-loop gain, phase margin, PSSR, CMMR and so on. Are there any books or application notes on this subject available? Please reply vi e-mail or nn. Thanks Mark
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YESSS! You make me proud to be an 'Merkun. Good thing you didn't get shot though. Don't try that with a good'ole boy in Texas. I once had a jeep driver south of Conroe cut me off (I was in my car) after I had flipped him off for doing something really idiotic and senseless. All 280 lbs of him stretches out of his jeep; he walks back (he is blocking all traffic between Dallas and Houston since the freeway has been squeezed into a single lane) and says to me, "Stick that finger out again and I'll rip it off your hand and shove it down your sorry-ass throat." I stared straight ahead, unblinking. A hundred cars were honking. Eventually he got back into his jeep, face beet-red with anger, and all the rest of the way back to Houston I tailed him, waving, honking, flipping him off, yelling... I'm glad he decided not to shoot me. /-----b-o-d-y---i-s---t-h-e---b-i-k-e----------------------------\ \-----------------------s-o-u-l---i-s---t-h-e---r-i-d-e-r--------/
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I have an addition to the FAQ regarding "why are there no atheist hospitals." If I recall correctly, Johns Hopkins was built to provide medical services without the "backing" of a religious group...thus making it a hospital "dedicated to the glory of [weak] atheism." Might someone check up on this?
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What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened. The BATF needs more people, better weapons and more armored transports. When they meet hostile fire they should be able to use more force instead of retreating to a stand off. If you are going to do a job then do it right. The BATF is there to protect us and they must have the proper equipment and people to do the job. With the WoD and the increased crime in the streets the BATF is needed more now then ever. If they blast away a few good fokes then that is the price we all have to pay for law and order in this country. Look at all the good people that died in wars to protect this great country of ours.
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Oh? Hellman said ``each user will get to choose his or her own key.'' That's the key which I called K_P, the session key. According to Hellman, if Alice and Bob are communicating with the Clipper Chip, then Alice chooses ``her own key'' and Bob chooses ``his own key.'' This is incompatible with the suggestion that when Alice and Bob are talking, they use a _common_ K_P, chosen by classical or public-key approaches. The protocol/key-management description published so far is either incomplete or incorrect. It leaves me with no idea of how the system would actually _work_. I hope the CPSR FOIA request succeeds so that we get full details.
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You get a mic with the C650 if you get it with the internal CD ROM drive. Gary --
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The reason for the existence of hell is justice. Fear is only an effect of the reality of hell. -- boundary, the catechist
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% telnet csrc.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying... Connected to csrc.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 first.org sendmail 4.1/NIST ready at Sat, 17 Apr 93 20:42:56 EDT expn clipper 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250 <[email protected]> quit 221 first.org closing connection Connection closed. Note also: % telnet csmes.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying 129.6.54.2... Connected to csmes.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 csmes.ncsl.nist.gov sendmail 4.1/NIST(rbj/dougm) ready at Sat, 17 Apr 93 23:08:58 EDT expn mgrsplus 250-<[email protected]> 250-Irene Gilbert <igilbert> 250-Dennis Branstad <branstad> 250-Robert Rosenthal <rmr> 250-Gene Troy <troy> 250-<[email protected]> 250-Dennis Steinauer <dds> 250 <[email protected]> telnet mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying 129.6.48.199... Connected to mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov sendmail 4.1/rbj/jck-3 ready at Sat, 17 Apr 93 23:06:50 EDT expn csspab 250-<burrows@ecf> 250-<mcnulty@ecf> 250-Bill Colvin <colvin> 250-<[email protected]> 250-John Kuyers <kuyers> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-<[email protected]> 250-Eddie Zeitler <zeitler> 250-Cris Castro <castro> 250 <[email protected]> % telnet st1.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying 129.6.54.91... Connected to st1.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 st1.ncsl.nist.gov SEndMaIl 4.1/NBS-rbj.11 rEadY At Sat, 17 Apr 93 23:13:43 EDT expn smid 250 Miles Smid <smid> expn katzke 250 Stuart Katzke <katzke> quit 221 st1.ncsl.nist.gov closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. % telnet ecf.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying 129.6.48.2... Connected to ecf.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 ECF.NCSL.NIST.GOV TGV/MultiNet SMTP service ready. expn burrows 250 Burrows, James <burrows> expn mcnulty 250 McNulty, Lynn <mcnulty> quit 221 ECF.NCSL.NIST.GOV TGV/MultiNet SMTP service complete. % whois -h rs.internic.net first.org National Institute of Standards and Technology (FIRST-DOM) 225/A216 NIST GAITHERSBURG, MD 20899 Domain Name: FIRST.ORG Administrative Contact: Wack, John P. (JPW18) [email protected] (301) 975-3411 (FTS) 879-3411 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hunt, Craig W. (CWH3) [email protected] (301) 975-3827 (FTS) 879-3827 Record last updated on 17-Dec-91. Domain servers in listed order: DOVE.NIST.GOV 129.6.16.2 AMES.ARC.NASA.GOV 128.102.18.3 The InterNIC Registration Services Host ONLY contains Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
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I finally got a 24 bit viewer for my POVRAY generated .TGA files. It was written in C by Sean Malloy and he kindly sent me a copy. He wrote it for the same purpose, to view .TGA files using his SpeedStar 24. It ONLY works with the SpeedStar 24 and I cannot send copies since it is not my program. I believe the author may release a version at a future time when the program is more developed. He may or may not comment on this, as he pleases. Thanks to all who were helpful. Regards,
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ATTN: Those who live inthe Philadelphia Metro area... Back in September I was listening to WIP, and I remember the morning guys were talking with Mayor Ed Rendell. The topic of conversation was a new ball park for the Phillies. The location for this new park was suggested to be near 30th St Station. At the time, the mayor was optimisitic that in the future this could become a reality. Has there been any new news on this subject or is it still a pipe dream? I know the city of Philadelphia has other projects ahead, such as the new convention center and the upcoming Spectrum II. But it would be nice to see this a reality. It is planned that the Phillies leave the VET and leave it solely to the Eagles (and if that's the case, the Eagles should make the VET a grass stadium, but that's another story). I want to see that day!
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Reply-to: [email protected] Is there a FAQ on Cyrix 486DLC? If I missed it, could anyone please repost or email it to me? Thanks in advance. ... Alexander Poylisher, Internet: [email protected]; FidoNet: 1:2603/106
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I don't know about the specific problem mentioned in your message, but I definitely had SCSI problems between my Q700 and my venerable Jasmine Megadrive 10 cartridge drives. My solution was to get Silverlining. None of the loops that involved blind writes worked to the drives; in fact the only loop that worked was the "Macintosh Software" loop (whatever that means).
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Hey, it might to interesting to read some of these posts... Especially from ones who still regularly posts on alt.atheism! Hee hee hee. *I* ain't going to say.... --- " Whatever promises that have been made can than be broken. "
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Actually, I could care less what his salary is. It has something to do with the fact that we live in America, and everyone is entitled to whatever he can legally obtain. If Sandy Alderson and the Haas family willingly negotiate a salary of $35 million per year with Rickey, I couldn't care less. But what REALLY GETS MY GOAT is the bullshit he spouted in spring training, about `Well... sometimes I may not play as hard, or might be hurt more often, in a place where I'm not appreciated'. This quote was in the Chronicle about the second week of camp, and strongly suggests that he was going to dog it all year if the ownership didn't kiss his butt and ante up some more money. For God's sake, Rickey, you signed a contract 4 years ago, now honor it and play! Say all you want to about Steve Garvey, and believe me, I hated him too, but at least when he put his signature on a piece of paper he shut his mouth and played hard until the contract was up.
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Macintosh II cx with 40 MB HD, 8 MB RAM and 19" monochrome monitor (Ikegami) is for sale. Asking $3,000, no reasonable (best) offer will be rejected. Contact Konrad at (416) 365-0564m Mon-Frii 9-5.
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Anyone out there in netland have a spare data pod or two from an old 1615A Hewlett Packard logic analyzer? If you do, I'd like to buy it off of you. The pod's part number is 10248B. As a side note, anyone know of any good surplus dealer or other organization that would carry wayward logic analzer pods?
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I'm writing an application running under X (using Motif), and I need to do some stuff when the application quits. Now, when I shut down my X Windows session, it doesn't seem to send a SIGTERM (or whatever) signal to my application (I'm trapping various signals like that). Therefore, I thought I could use an X signal to check for my top level window being destroyed. However I seem to get DestroyNotify events whenever I move windows. Is there any way for me to check that the window is actually being destroyed (some field to check or some combination of events?). Replies by e-mail please and I will summarise. Thanks for any help, Ian
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: >I just got to thinking: why don't manufacturers still make bikes with turbos? : > etc .... Because they add a lot of expense and complexity and make for a less reliable and less controllable bike. As an extreme example the CX500 Turbo cost as much as a Mike Hailwood Replica Ducati.
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Ok, I'll admit it. I can't find a quote with my meager online resources. but i did find this little gem: ``When the Arabs set off their volcano, there will only be Arabs in this part of the world. Our people will continue to fuel the torch of the revolution with rivers of blood until the whole of the occupied homeland is liberated...'' --- Yasser Arafat, AP, 3/12/79 So, Ahmed is right. There was nothing about driving Jews into the sea, just a bit of "ethnic cleansing," and a river of blood. Is this an improvement? Adam Adam Shostack [email protected]
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--------------------------- The federal government has used such laws to allow mutliple charges in order to prevent more crimes than would nromally occur just from two people being pissed off at each other. The federal government has an interest in the intent of the perpetrators in the pursuit of preventing violations of civil rights. It's the way they broke the back of the Klan, by putting a lot of people away for a very long time for harrassing blacks specifically. It is a principle that has been well recognized as constitutionally valid since over 100 years ago. It has been used whenever a select group was getting bashed or harrassed more than any other person would just for being part of a minority. It is the only way we made the defeat of the south stick after the Civil War. People who harrassed free blacks, when normally they wouldn't find themselves harrassing just anyone walking around were expeditiously tried and jailed for 5 to 8 years until nobody wanted to try it anymore. Now with the 14th amendment guarantee of equal protection under the law, the law can use multiple crime and severe penalty involving intent as much as is needed to protect even one human that is a hated minority to somebody. They can call out the national guard just for them, as they did the school girls in Alabama during desegregation in the 1950's, and the president can nationalize the state militia and turn the guns of the militia that were being used to bar blacks right around to point at the thousands in the crowd with an order to shoot that they would have to obey or face possible death by firing squad under the Uniform Code of Military Justice for failing to obey a direct order while under arms! And by god, they did! Those southern boys turned right around an fixed bayonets! And the governor was left standing and was arrested by the federal marshalls that had brought the order to nationalize the guard. And that's why we need such an ability in federal jurisdiction. -RSW
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( Below is my response to Dr. Denning's letter to Steven Bellovin. Comments are invited. - Paul ) In alt.privacy.clipper, Steve Bellovin posted your message to him, which included a brief passage concerning selection of agencies as escrow agencies. I am glad to see that the proposal as written states that the escrow agencies won't be law enforcement agencies. I would argue, however, that *one* of the escrow agencies shouldn't be federal at all. As a private citizen, I would feel much more "secure in my person and papers" knowing that an organization committed to individual civil liberties- the ACLU and the NRA come to mind- was safeguarding half of my key. Both the ACLU and the NRA are resistent to government pressure by the simple expedient fact that they are not supported, funded, or overtly controlled by the government. Of those federal and federally funded candidate agencies that you mentioned, I have the following comments: - SRI, Rand, Mitre, and national labs: I agree that they have great experience safeguarding sensitive information. I am not convinced that they would adequately safeguard _this_ information, since in any case requiring disclosure, there's likely to be sigificant pressure for disclosure- possibly *wrongful* disclosure. - GAO: perhaps. I would like to see more concrete evidence of their fidelity and ability. - *TREASURY*? Surely you're joking. Perhaps you'd ask BATF to safeguard keys. Maybe the Federal Reserve would be a better choice. Ever since last fall's "trial balloon" was posted in sci.crypt, your name has been synonymous with those who place a great deal of trust in the ability of government agencies and agents to act within the law. I agree with you in part: those agencies and agents *almost always* act properly. However, there have been enough cases where _sworn agents of the Federal Government_ have acted wrongly to make me feel that having two federal agencies as key repositories is unacceptable. Respectfully, -Paul Robichaux (not speaking for NTI, BCSS, or NASA)
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Did you remember to clamp ground to the engine block first?
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Two LH Research SM11-1 power supplies (series SM10). 1000W, 5V, 200A (currently wired for 115VAC) Control lines: +/- sense, on/off, pwr. fail, high/lo margin, current monitor (List price from LH Research $824.00 each, qty. 1-9) Asking $350.00 for the pair obo
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I note that you make no such case as you claim can be 'even more easily made'. Yes, the argument can (and has) been made that current government policy creates even larger market barriers than there were in the first place, but there is no such term as 'government failure', since the government can change policies whenever it pleases. The market doesn't do that and is governed by (relatively) well-understood forces. This libertopican bilge about 'moral arguments' about taxation, etc., is, at bottom, so much simplistic economic thinking. It can only be 'justified' by cliche derision of anyone who knows more about economics than the libertopian -- which is what invariably happens. Tripe a la Tommy, the new libertopian dish. Wherever do you get this inflated idea of your own importance? -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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%I say buy out Henderson's contract and let him go bag groceries. Next %season, you'll be able to sign him for nothing. That goes for any bitching %ball player.
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Dorin, Let's not forget that the soldiers were killed not murdered. The distinction is not trivial. Murder happens to innocent people, not people whose line of work is to kill or be killed. It just so happened that these soldiers, in the line of duty, were killed by the opposition. And resistance is different from terrorism. Certainly the athletes in Munich were victims of terrorists (though some might call them freedom fighters). Their deaths cannot be compared to those of soldiers who are killed by resistance fighters. Don't forget that it was the French Resistance to the Nazi occupying forces which eventually succeeded in driving out the hostile occupiers in WWII. Diplomacy has not worked with Israel and the Lebanese people are tired of being occupied! They are now turning to the only option they see as viable. (Don't forget that it worked in driving out the US) -marc
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It's my understanding that the next release of UIM/X, due out last February :-) has full support for C++. I use XDesigner which does not have the interpreter or UI meta languages of these other tools but does fully support C++ code generation, reusable templates via C++ classes which are generated, a variety of other handy features for using C++ and layout functions in different ways, and generates Motif 1.2 code (including drag 'n drop, internationalization, etc.). Fits in quite nicely with Doug Young's paradigm for C++/Motif. Available in the US from VI Corp, in Europe from Imperial Software, London (see FAQ for details).
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If I read you right, you're saying in essence that, with a larger economy, nations will have more discretionary funds to *waste* on a lunar facility. That was certainly partially the case with Apollo, but real Lunar colonies will probably require a continuing military, scientific, or commercial reason for being rather than just a "we have the money, why not?" approach. It's conceivable that Luna will have a military purpose, it's possible that Luna will have a commercial purpose, but it's most likely that Luna will only have a scientific purpose for the next several hundred years at least. Therefore, Lunar bases should be predicated on funding levels little different from those found for Antarctic bases. Can you put a 200 person base on the Moon for $30 million a year? Even if you use grad students? Gary
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: : Oh yeah, I just read in another newsgroup that the T560i uses a : high quality Trinitron tube than is in most monitors.(the Sony : 1604S for example) and this is where the extra cost comes from. It : is also where the high bandwidth comes from, and the fantastic : image, and the large image size, etc, etc... : : It's also where the two annoying lines across the screen (one a third : down, the other two thirds down) come from. : The 2 lines are not a result of the high end trinitron tube, these 2 wires will be found on all 17" trinitron tubes (e.g., Mitsubishi 17", Sony 1604, etc). On 14" Sony tubes, you'll find one wire. Their level of annoyance is purely subjective. I'm so happy with the sharpness of the T560i that I don't even notice the lines. The T560i uses a Trinitron SA tube which, when viewed as a complete tube, has a larger diameter than the standard Trinitron tube. This results in a flatter screen than other 17" monitors using the standard trinitron (which has a vertically flat but not horizontally flat surface), and apparently the ability to provide a tighter beam focus.
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Living things maintain small electric fields to (1) enhance certain chemical reactions, (2) promote communication of states with in a cell, (3) communicate between cells (of which the nervous system is a specialized example), and perhaps other uses. These electric fields change with location and time in a large organism. Special photographic techniques such as applying external fields in Kirillian photography interact with these fields or the resistances caused by these fields to make interesting pictures. Perhaps such pictures will be diagonistic of disease problems in organisms when better understood. Perhaps not. Studying the overall electric activity of biological systems is several hundred years old, but not a popular activity. Perhaps, except in the case of a few tissues like nerves and the electric senses of fishes, it is hard to reduce the investigation into small pieces that can be clearly analyzed. There are some hints that manipulating electric fields is a useful therapy such as speeding the healing of broken bones, but not understood why.
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It's about time. Why do atheists spend so much time paying attention to the bible, anyway? Face it, there are better things to do with your life! I used to chuckle and snort over the silliness in that book and the absurdity of people believing in it as truth, etc. Why do we spend so little time on the Mayan religion, or the Native Americans? Heck, the Native Americans have signifigantly more interesting myths. Also, what about the Egyptians. I think we pay so much attention to Christianity because we accept it as a _religion_ and not a mythology, which I find more accurate. I try to be tolerant. It gets very hard when someone places a book under my nose and tells me it's special. It's not.
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Are you (two) joking? Is the entire Internet flaming you (two)? Ahh!, now I remember that Ohmite company was the first introducing "the pink colored resistor", only for electronics working females ;-)
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Archive-name: graphics/resources-list/part3 Last-modified: 1993/04/17 Computer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY POSTING [ PART 3/3 ] =================================================== Last Change : 17 April 1993 11. Scene generators/geographical data/Maps/Data files ====================================================== DEMs (Digital Elevation Models) ------------------------------- DEMs (Digital Elevation Models) as well as other cartographic data [huge] is available from spectrum.xerox.com [192.70.225.78], /pub/map. Contact: Lee Moore -- Webster Research Center, Xerox Corp. -- Voice: +1 (716) 422 2496 Arpa, Internet: [email protected] [ Check also on ncgia.ucsb.edu (128.111.254.105), /pub/dems -- nfotis ] Many of these files are also available on CD-ROM selled by USGS: "1:2,000,000 scale Digital Line Graph (DLG) Data". Contains datas for all 50 states. Price is about $28, call to or visit in offices in Menlo Park, in Reston, Virginia (800-USA-MAPS). The Data User Services Division of the Bureau of the Census also has data on CD-ROM (TSO standard format) that is derived from USGS 1:100,000 map data. Call (301) 763-4100 for more info or they have a BBS at (301) 763-1568. [ From Dr.Dobbs #198 March 1993: ] "The U.S. Defense Mapping Agency, in cooperation with their counterpart agencies in CANADA, the U.K., and Australia, have released the Digital Chart of the World (DCW). This chart consists of over 1.5 gigabytes of reasonable quality vector data distributed on four CD-ROMS. .... includes coastlines, rivers, roads, railrays, airports,cities, towns, spot elevations, and depths, and over 100,000 place names." It is ISO9660 compatible and only $200.00 available from: U.S. Geological Survey P.O. Box 25286 Denver Federal Center Denver, CO 80225 Digital Distribution Services Energy, Mines, and Resources Canada 615 Booth Street Ottawa, ON K1A 0E9 Canada Director General of Military Survey (Survey 3) Elmwood Avenue Feltham, Middlesex TW13 7AH United Kingdom Director of Survey, Australian Army Department of Defense Campbell Park Offices (CP2-4-24) Campbell ACT 2601 Australia Fractal Landscape Generators ---------------------------- Public Domain: Many people have written fractal landscape generators. for example for the Mac some of these generators were written by [email protected] (Paul D. Bourke). Many of the programs are available from the FTP sites and mail archive servers. Check with Archie. Commercial: Vista Pro 3.0 for the Amiga from Virtual Reality Labs -- list price is about $100. Their address is: VRL 2341 Ganador court San Luis Obispo, CA 93401 Telephone or FAX (805) 545-8515 Scenery Animator (also for the Amiga) is of the same caliber with Vista Pro 2. Check with: Natural Graphics P.O. Box 1963 Raklin, CA 95677 Phone (916) 624-1436 Don't forget to ask about companion programs and data disks/tapes. Vista Pro 3 has been ported to the PCs. CIA World Map II ---------------- [ NOTE: this database is quite out of date, and not topologically structured. If you need a standard for world cartographic data, wait for the Digital Chart of the World. This 1:1M database has been produced from the Defense Mapping Agency's ONCs and will be available, together with searching and viewing software, on a number of CD-ROMs later this summer. ] Check into HANAUMA.STANFORD.EDU and UCSD.EDU (see ftp list above) The CIA database consists of coastlines, rivers and political boundaries in the form of line strokes. Also on hanauma.stanford.edu is a 720x360 array of elevation data, containing one ieee floating point number for every half degree longitude and latitude. A program for decoding the database, mfil, can be found on the machine pi1.arc.umn.edu (137.66.130.11). There's another program, which reads a compressed CIA Data Bank file and builds a PHIGS hierachical structure. It uses a PHIGS extension known as polyline sets for performance, but you can use regular polylines. Ask Joe Stewart <[email protected]>. The raw data at Stanford require the vplot package to be able to view it. (was posted in comp.sources.unix). To be more exact, you'll have to compile just the libvplot routines, not the whole package. NCAR data --------- NCAR (National Center for Atmospheric Research) has many types of terrain data, ranging from elevation datasets at various resolutions, to information about soil types, vegetation, etc. This data is not free -- they charge from $40 to $90 or more, depending on the data volume and media (exabyte tape, 3480 cartridge, 9-track tape, IBM PC floppy, and FTP transfer are all available). Their data archive is mostly research oriented, not hobbyist oriented. For more information, email to [email protected]. UNC data tapes with voxel data -------------- There are 2 "public domain" tapes with data for the comparison and testing of various volume rendering algorithms (mainly MRI and CT scans). These tapes are distributed by the SoftLab of UNC @ Chapel Hill. ([email protected]) The data sets (volume I and II) are also available via anonymous FTP from omicron.cs.unc.edu [128.109.136.159] in pub/softlab/CHVRTD NASA ---- Many US agencies such as NASA publish CD-ROMs with many altimetry data from various space missions, eg. Viking for Mars, Magellan for Venus, etc. Especially for NASA, I would suggest to call the following address for more info: National Space Science Date Center Goddard Space Flight Center Greenbelt, Maryland 20771 Telephone: (301) 286-6695 Email address: [email protected] The data catalog (*not* the data itself) is available online. Internet users can telnet to nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.10.4) and log in as 'NODIS' (no password). You can also dial in at (301)-286-9000 (300, 1200, or 2400 baud, 8 bits, no parity, one stop). At the "Enter Number:" prompt, enter MD and carriage return. When the system responds "Call Complete," enter a few more carriage returns to get the "Username:" and log in as 'NODIS' (no password). NSSDCA is also an anonymous FTP site, but no comprehensive list of what's there is available at present. Earth Sciences Data ------------------- There's a listing of anonymous FTP sites for earth science data, including imagery. This listing is called "Earth Sciences Resources on Internet", and you can get it via anonymous FTP from csn.org [128.138.213.21] in the directory COGS under the name "internet.resources.earth.sci" Some sites include: aurelie.soest.hawaii.edu [128.171.151.121]: pub/avhrr/images - AVHRR images ames.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.18.3]: pub/SPACE/CDROM - images from Magellan and Viking missions etc. pub/SPACE/Index contains a listing of files available in the whole archive (the index is about 200K by itself). There's also an e-mail server for the people without Internet access: send a letter to [email protected] (or ames!archive-server). In the subject of your letter (or in the body), use commands like: send SPACE Index send SPACE SHUTTLE/ss01.23.91 (Capitalization is important! Only text files are handled by the email server at present) vab02.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.23.47]: pub/gifs/misc/landsat - Landsat photos in GIF and JPEG format [ It was shut down - nfotis; anyone has a copy of this archive?? ] Others ------ Daily values of river discharge, streamflow, and daily weather data is available from EarthInfo, 5541 Central Ave., Boulder CO 80301. These disks are expensive, around $500, but there are quantity discounts. (303) 938-1788. Check vmd.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.98], the wx directory carries data regarding surface analysis, weather radar, and sat view pics in GIF format (updated hourly) pioneer.unm.edu [129.24.9.217] is the Space and Planetary Image Facility (located on the University of New Mexico campus) FTP server. It provides Anonymous FTP access to >150 CD-ROMS with data/images. A disk with earthquake data, topography, gravity, geopolitical info is available from NGDC (National Geophysical Data Center), 325 Broadway, Boulder, CO 80303. (303) 497-6958. EOSAT (at least in the US) now sells Landsat MSS data older than two years old for $200 per scene, and they have been talking about a similar deal for Landsat TM data. The MSS data are 4 bands, 80 meter resolution. Check out anonymous FTP to ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in UNIX/PolyView/alpha-shape for a tool that creates convex hulls alpha-shapes (a generalization of the convex hull) from 3D point sets. The GRIPS II (Gov. Raster Image Processing Software) CD-ROM is available from CD-ROM Inc. at 1-800-821-5245 for $49. Code for viewing ADRG (Arc Digitised Raster Graphics) files is available on the GRIPS II CD-ROM. The U.S. Army Engineer Topographic Labs (Juan Perez) code is also available via FTP ( adrg.zip archive in spectrum.xerox.com ) NRCC range data --------------- Rioux M., Cournoyer L. "The NRCC Three-Dimensional Image Data Files", Tech. Report, CNRC 29077, National Research Council Canada, Ottawa, Canada, 1988 [ From what I understand, these data are from a laser range finder, and you can a copy for research purposes ] ========================================================================== 12. 3D scanners - Digitized 3D Data =================================== a. Cyberware Labs, Monterey, CA, manufactures a 3D color laser digitizer which can be used to model parts of, or a complete, human body. They run a service bureau also, so they can digitize models for you. Address: Cyberware Labs, Inc 8 Harris Ct, Suite 3D Monterey, CA 93940 Phone: (408)373-1441, Fax: (408)373-3582 b. Polhemus makes a 6D input device (actually a couple of models) that senses position (3D) and *orientation* (+3D) based on electromagnetic field interference. This equipment is also incorporated in the VPL Dataglove. This hardware is also called ISOTRACK, from Keiser Aerospace. Ascension Technology makes a similar 3D input device. There is a company, Applied Sciences(?), that makes a 3D input device (position only) based on speed of sound triangulation. c. A company that specializes in digitizing is Viewpoint. You can ask for Viewpoint's _free_ 100 page catalog full of ready to ship datasets from categories such as cars, anatomy, aircraft,sports, boats, trains, animals and others. Though these objects are quite expensive, the cataloge is nevertheless of interest for it has pictures of all the available objects in wireframe , polygon mesh. Contact: Viewpoint, 870 West Center, Orem, Utah 84057 ph# 801-224-2222 fax# 801-224-2272 1-800-DATASET ------ Some addresses for companies that make digitizers: Ascension Technology Bird, Flock of Birds, Big Bird: 6d trackers P.O. Box 527, Burlington, VT 05402 Phone: (802) 655-7879, Fax: (802) 655-5904 Polhemus Incorporated Digitizer: 6d trackers P.O. Box 560, Hercules Dr. Colchester, Vt. 05446 Tel: (802) 655-3159 Logitech Inc. Red Baron, ultrasonic 6D mouse 6506 Kaiser Dr. Freemont, CA 94555 Tel: (415) 795-8500w Shooting Star Technology Mechanical Headtracker 1921 Holdom Ave. Burnaby, B.C. Canada V5B 3W4 Tel: (604) 298-8574 Fax: (604) 298-8580 Spaceball Technologies, Inc. Spaceball: 6d stationary input device 600 Suffolk Street Lowell, MA, 01854 Tel: (508) 970-0330 Fax: (508) 970-0199 Tel in Mountain View: (415) 966-8123 Transfinite Systems Gold Brick: PowerGlove for Macintosh P.O. Box N MIT Branch Post Office Cambridge, MA 02139-0903 Tel: (617) 969-9570 email: [email protected] VPL Research, Inc. EyePhone: head-mounted display DataGlove: glove/hand input device VPL Research Inc. 950 Tower Lane 14th Floor Foster City, CA 94404 Tel: (415) 312-0200 Fax: (415) 312-9356 SimGraphics Engineering Flying Mouse: 6d input device 1137 Huntington Rd. Suite A-1 South Pasadena, CA 91030-4563 (213) 255-0900 ======================================================================== 13. Background imagery/textures/datafiles ========================================= First, check in the FTP places that are mentioned in the FAQ or in the FTP list above. 24-bit scanning: ---------------- Get a good 24-bit scanner, like Epson's. Suggested is an SCSI port for speed. Eric Haines had a suggestion in RT News, Volume 4, #3 : scan textures for wallpapers and floor coverings, etc. from doll house supplies. So you have a rather cheap way to scan patterns that don't have scaling troubles associated with real materials and scanning area. Books with textures: -------------------- Find some houses/books/magazines that carry photographic material. Educorp, 1-619-536-9999, sells CD-ROMS with various imagery - also a wide variety of stock art is available. Stock art from big-name stock art houses, such as Comstock, UNIPHOTO, and Metro Image Base, is available. In Italy, there's a company called Belvedere that makes such books for the purpose of clipping their pages for inclusion in your graphics work. Their address is: Edition Belvedere Co. Ltd., 00196 Rome Italy, Piazzale Flaminio, 19 Tel. (06) 360-44-88, Fax (06) 360-29-60 Texture Libraries: ------------------ a. Mannikin Sceptre Graphics announced TexTiles, a set of 256x256 24-bit textures. Initial shipments in 24-bit IFF (for Amigas), soon in 24-bit TIFF format. Algorithmically built for tiled surfaces. SRP is $40 / volume (each volume = 40 images @ 10 disks). Demo disks for $5 are available. Contact: Mannikin Sceptre Graphics 1600 Indiana Ave. Winter Park, FL 32789 Phone: (407) 384-9484 FAX: (407) 647-7242 b. ESSENCE is a library of 65 (sixty-five) new algoritmic textures for Imagine by Impulse, Inc. These textures are FULLY compatible with the floating point versions of Imagine 2.0, Imagine 1.1, and even Turbo Silver. Written by Steve Worley. For more info contact: Essence Info Apex Software Publishing 405 El Camino Real Suite 121 Menlo Park CA 94025 USA [ What about Texture City ?? ] ========================================================================== 14. Introduction to rendering algorithms ======================================== a. Ray-Tracing: --------------- I assume you have a general understanding of Computer Graphics. No? Then read some of the books that the FAQ contains. For Ray-Tracing, I would suggest: An Introduction to Ray Tracing, Andrew Glassner (ed.), Academic Press 1989, ISBN 0-12-286160-4 Note that I have not read the book, but I feel that you can't be wrong using his book. An errata list was posted in comp.graphics by Eric Haines ([email protected]) There's a more concise reference also: Roman Kuchkuda , UNC @ Chapel Hill: "An Introduction to Ray Tracing", in "Theoretical Foundations for Computer Graphics and CAD", ed. R.A.E.Earnshaw, NATO AS, Vol. F-40., pp. 1039-1060. Printed by Springer-Verlag, 1988. It contains code for a small, but fundamentally complete ray-tracer. b. Z-buffer (depth-buffer) -------------------------- A good reference is: _Procedural Elements for Computer Graphics_, David F. Rogers, McGraw-Hill, New York, 1985, pages 265-272 and 280-284. c. Others: ---------- ??? [ More info is needed -- nfotis ] ======================================================================== 15. Where can I find the geometric data for the: ================================================ a. Teapot ? ----------- "Displays on Display" column of IEEE CG&A Jan '87 has the whole story about origin of the Martin Newell's teapot. The article also has the bezier patch model and a Pascal program to display the wireframe model of the teapot. IEEE CG&A Sep '87 in Jim Blinn's column "Jim Blinn's Corner" describes an another way to model the teapot; Bezier curves with rotations for example are used. The OFF and SPD packages have these objects, so you're advised to get them to avoid typing the data yourself. The OFF data is triangles at a specific resolution (around 8x8[x4 triangles] meshing per patch). The SPD package provides the spline patch descriptions and performs a tessellation at any specified resolution. b. Space Shuttle ? ------------------ Tolis Lerios <[email protected]> has built a list of Space Shuttle datafiles. Here's a summary (From his sci.space list): model1: A modified version of the newsgroup model (model2) 406 vertices (296 useful, i.e. referred to in the polygon descriptions.) 389 polygons (233 3-vertex, 146 4-vertex, 7 5-vertex, 3 6-vertex). Payload doors non-existent. Units: unknown. Simon Marshall ([email protected]) has a copy. He said there is no proprietary information associated with it. model2: The newsgroup model, in OFF format. You can find it in gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au , file pub/off/objects/shuttle.geo hanauma.stanford.edu , /pub/graphics/Comp.graphics/objects/shuttle.data model3: The triangles' model. This model is stored in several files, each defining portions of the model. Greg Henderson ([email protected]) has a copy. He did not mention any restriction on the model's distribution. model4: The NASA model. The file starts off with a header line containing three real numbers, defining the offsets used by Lockheed in their simulations: <x offset> <y offset> <z offset> From then on, the file consists of a sequence of polygon descriptions 3473 vertices. 2748 polygons (407 3-vertex, 2268 4-vertex, 33 5-vertex, 14 6-vertex, 10 7-vertex, 8 8-vertex, 8 12-vertex, 2 13-vertex, 2 15-vertex, 17 16-vertex, 2 17-vertex, 2 18-vertex, 3 19-vertex, 8 24-vertex). Payload doors closed. Units: inches. Jon Berndt ([email protected]) seems to be responsible for the model Proprietary info: unknown model5: The old shuttle model. The file consists of a sequence of polygon descriptions. 104 vertices. 452 polygons (11 3-vertex, 41 4-vertex). Payload doors open. Units: meters. We have been using this model at STAR Labs, Stanford University, for some years now. Contact me ([email protected]) or my supervisor Scott Williams ([email protected]) if you want a copy. ======================================================================== 16. Image annotation software ============================= a. Touchup runs in Sunview and is pretty good. It reads in rasterfiles, but even if your image isn't normally stored in rasterfile format you could use screendump to make it a rasterfile. b. Idraw (part of Stanford's InterViews distribution) can handle some image formats in addition to being a MacDraw like tool. I'm not sure exactly what they are. You can ftp the idraw's binary from interviews.stanford.edu. c. Tgif is another MacDraw like tool that can handle X11 bitmap (xbm) and X11 pixmap (xpm) formats. If the image you have is in formats other than xbm or xpm, you can get the pbmplus toolkit to convert things like gif or even some Macintosh formats to xpm. Tgif's sources are available in the pub directory on cs.ucla.edu (Version 2.12 of tgif at patchlevel 7 plus patch8 and patch9) d. Use the editimage facility of KHOROS (see below). This is just one utility in the overall system- you can essentially do all your image processing and macdraw-type graphics using this package. e. You might be able to get by with PBMPlus. pbmtext gives you text output bitmaps which can be overlaid on top of your image. f. 'ice' requires Sun hardware running OpenWindows 3.It's a PostScript-based graphical editor,and it's available for anonymous ftp from Internet host eo.soest.hawaii.edu (128.171.151.12). Requires Sun C++ 2.0 and two other locally developed packages, the LXT library (an Xlib-based toolkit) and a small C++ class library. All files (pub/ice.tar.Z, pub/lxt.tar.Z and pub/ldgoc++.tar.Z) are available in compressed tar format. pub/ice.tar.Z contains a README that gives installation instructions, as well as an extensive man page (ice.1). A statically-linked compressed executable pub/ice-sun4.Z for SPARC systems is also available for ftp. All software is the property of Columbia University and may not be redistributed without permission. ice means Image Composition Environment and it's an imaging tool that allows raster images to be combined with a wide variety of PostScript annotations in WYSIWYG fashion via X11 imaging routines and NeWS PostScript rasterizing. g. Use ImageMagick to annotate an image from your X server. Pick the position of your text with the cursor and choose your font and pen color from a pull-down menu. ImageMagick can read and write many of the more popular image formats. ImageMagick is available as export.lcs.mit.edu: contrib/ImageMagick.tar.Z or at your nearest X11 archive. ======================================================================== 17. Scientific visualization stuff ================================== X Data Slice (xds) ------------------- Bundled with the X11 distribution from MIT, in the contrib directory. Available at ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.20.50] (either as a source or binaries for various platforms). National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA) Tool Suite ----------------------------------------------------------------- Platforms: Unix Workstations (DEC, IBM, SGI, Sun) Apple MacIntosh Cray supercomputers Availability: Now available. Source code in the public domain. FTP from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu. Contact: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Computing Applications Building 605 E. Springfield Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 Cost: Free (zero dollars). The suite includes tools for 2D image and 3D scene analysis and visualization. The code is actively maintained and updated. Spyglass -------- They sell commercial versions of the NCSA tools. Examples are: Spyglass Dicer (3D volumetric data analysis package) Platform: Mac Spyglass Transform (2D data analysis package) Platforms: Mac, SGI, Sun, DEC, HP, IBM Contact: Spyglass, Inc. P.O. Box 6388 Champaign, IL 61826 (217) 355-6000 KHOROS 1.0 Patch 5 ------------------ Available via anonymous ftp at pprg.eece.unm.edu (129.24.24.10). cd to /pub/khoros to see what is available. It is HUGE (> 100 MB), but good. Needs Unix and X11R4. Freely copied (NOT PD), complete with sources and docs. Very extensive and at its heart is visual programming. Khoros components include a visual programming language, code generators for extending the visual language and adding new application packages to the system, an interactive user interface editor, an interactive image display package, an extensive library of image and signal processing routines, and 2D/3D plotting packages. See comp.soft-sys.khoros on Usenet and the relative FAQ for more info.... Contact: The Khoros Group Room 110 EECE Dept. University of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131 Email: [email protected] MacPhase -------- Analysis & Visualization Application for the Macintosh. Operates on 1D and 2D data arrays. Import/Export several different file formats. Several different plotting options such as gray scale, color raster, 3D Wire frame, 3D surface, contour, vector, line, and combinations. FFTs, filtering, and other math functions, color look up editor, array calculator, etc. Shareware, available via anonymous ftp from sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the info-mac/app directory. For other information contact Doug Norton (e-mail: 74017.461@@compuserve.com) IRIS Explorer ------------- It's an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, existing code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently is available now on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on other platforms in time. [ Bundled with every new SGI machine, as far as I know] See comp.graphics.explorer or comp.sys.sgi for discussion of the package. There are also two FTP servers for related stuff, modules etc.: ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk [129.215.56.29] swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.54.33] - mirror of the UK site apE --- Back in the 'old good days', you could get apE for nearly free. Now has gone commercial and the following vendor supplies it: TaraVisual Corporation 929 Harrison Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43215 Tel: 1-800-458-8731 and (614) 291-2912 Fax: (614) 291-2867 Cost: $895 (plus tax); runtime version with a site-license for a single user (at a time), no limit on the number of machines in a cluster. $895 includes support/maintenance and upgrades. Source code more. Additional user licenses $360. The name of the package has become apE III (TM). Khoros is very similar to apE on philosophy, as are AVS and Explorer. AVS --- See also: comp.graphics.avs Platforms: CONVEX, CRAY, DEC, Evans & Sutherland, HP, IBM, Kubota, Set Technologies, SGI, Stardent, SUN, Wavetracer Availability: AVS4 available on all the above: For all UNIX workstations. Contact: Advanced Visual Systems Inc. 300 Fifth Ave. Waltham, MA 02154 (617)-890-4300 Telephone (617)-890-8287 Fax [email protected] Email Advanced Visual Systems Inc. for: CRAY, HP, IBM, SGI, Stardent, SUN CONVEX for CONVEX Advanced Visual Systems Inc. or CRAY for CRAY DEC for DEC Evans & Sutherland for Evans & Sutherland Advanced Visual Systems Inc. or IBM for IBM Kubota Pacific Inc. for Kubota Set Technologies for Set Technologies Wavetracer for Wavetracer FTP Site: for modules, data sets, other info: avs.ncsc.org (128.109.178.23) WIT --- In a nutshell it's a package of the same genre as AVS,Explorer,etc. It seems more a image processing system than a generic SciVi system (IMHO) Major elements are: - a visual programming language, which automatically exploits the inherent parallelism - a code generator which converts the graph to a standalone program Iconified libraries present a rich set of point, filter, io, transform, morphological, segmentation, and measurement operations. A flow library allows graphs to employ broadcast, merge, synchronization, conditional, and sequencing control strategies. WIT delivers an object-oriented, distributed, visual programming environment which allows users to rapidly design solutions to their imaging problems. Users can consolidate both software and hardware developments within a complete CAD-like workspace by adding their own operators (C functions), objects (data structures), and servers (specialized hardware). WIT runs on Sun, HP9000/7xx, SGI and supports Datacube MV-20/200 hardware allowing you to run your graphs in real-time. For a free WIT demo disk, call, FAX, or e-mail ([email protected]) us stating your complete name, address, voice, FAX, e-mail info. and desired platform. Pricing: WIT for Sparc, one yr. free upgrades, 30 days technical support....................$5000 US Academic institutions: discounts available Contact: Logical Vision Ltd. Suite 108-3700 Gilmore Way Burnaby, B.C., CANADA V5G 4M1 Tel: 604-435-2587 Fax: 604-435-8840 Terry Arden <[email protected]> VIS-5D ------ A system for visually exploring the output of 5-D gridded data sets such as those made by weather models. Platforms: SGI IRIS with VGX, GTX, TG, or G graphics, SGI Crimson or Indigo (R4000, Elan graphics suggested), IRIX 4.0.x IBM RS/6000 with GL graphics, AIX version 3 or later; Stardent GS-1000 and GS-2000 (with TrueColor display) In any case, 32 (or more) MB of RAM are suggested. You can get it freely (thanks to NASA support) via anonymous ftp: ftp iris.ssec.wisc.edu (or ftp 144.92.108.63), then ftp> cd pub/vis5d ftp> ascii ftp> get README ftp> bye NOTE: You can find the package also on wuarchive.wustl.edu in the graphics/graphics/packages directory. Read section 2 of the README file for full instructions on how to get and install VIS-5D. Contact: Bill Hibbard ([email protected]) Brian Paul ([email protected]) DATAexplorer (IBM) ------------------ Platforms : IBM Risc System 6000, IBM POWER Visualization Server (SIMD mesh 32 i860s, 40 MHz) Working on (announced) : SGI, HP, Sun Contact: Your local IBM Rep. For a trial package ask your rep to contact : David Kilgore Data Explorer Product Marketing YKTVMH(KILCORE), (708) 981-4510 Wavefront --------- Data Visualizer, Personal Visualizer, Advanced Visualizer. Platforms: SGI, SUN, IBM RS6000, HP, DEC Availability: Available on all the above platforms from Wavefront Technologies. Educational programs and site licenses are available. Contacts: Mike Wilson ([email protected]) Wavefront Technologies, Inc. 530 East Montecito Street Santa Barbara, CA 93103 805-962-8117 FAX: 805-963-0410 Wavefront Europe Guldenspoorstraat 21-23 B-9000 Gent, Belgium 32-91-25-45-55 FAX: 32-91-23-44-56 Wavefront Technologies Japan 17F Shinjuku-sumitomo Bldg 2-6-1 Nishi-shinjuku, Shunjuku-Ku Tokyo 168 Japan 81-3-3342-7330 FAX 81-3-3342-7353 PLOT3D and FAST from NASA Ames ------------------------------ These packages are distributed from COSMIC at least (for FAST ask Pat Elson <[email protected]> for distribution information). In general, these codes are for US citizens only :-( XGRAPH ------ On the contrib tape of X11R5. Its specialty is display of up to 64 data sets (2D). NCAR ---- National Center for Atmospheric Research. One of the original graphics packages. Runs on Sun, RS6000, SGI, VAX, Cray Y-MP, DecStations, and more. Contact: Graphics Information NCAR Scientific Computing Division P.O. Box 3000 Boulder, CO 80307-3000 (303)-497-1201 [email protected] Cost: .edu $750 Unlimited users .gov $750 1 user $1500 5 users $3000 25 users .com users multiply .gov * 2.0 IDL --- An environment for scientific computing and visualization. Based on an array oriented language, IDL includes 2D and 3D graphics, matrix manupulation, signal and image processing, basic statistics, gridding, mapping, and a widget based system for building GUI for IDL applications (Open Look, Motif, or MS-Windows). Environments: DEC (VMS and Ultrix), HP, IBM RS6000, SGI, Sun, Microsoft Windows. (Mac version in progress) Cost: $1500 to $3750, Educational and quantity discounts available. See also: comp.lang.idl-pvwave (the IDL-PVWAVE bundle) Contact: Research Systems Inc. 777 29th Street, Suite 302 Boulder, CO 80303 Phone: 303-786-9900 FAX: 303-786-9909 E-mail: [email protected] Demo available via FTP. Call or E-mail for details. IDL/SIPS -------- "A lot of people are using IDL with a package called SIPS. This was developed at the University of Colorado (Boulder) by some people working for Alex Goetz. You might try contacting them if you already have IDL or would be willing to buy it. It's a few thousand dollars (American) I expect for IDL and the other should be free. Those are the general purpose packages I've heard of, besides what TerraMar has. SIPS _was_ written for AVIRIS imagery. I'm not sure how general purpose it is. You would have to contact Goetz or one of his people and ask. I have another piece of software (PCW) that does PC and Walsh transformations with pseudocoloring and clustering and limited image modification (you can compute an image using selected components). I've used it on 70 megabyte AVIRIS images without problems, but for the best speed you need an external DSP card. It will work without it, but large images take quite a while (50-70 times as long) to process. That's a freebie if you want it" "My favorite is IDL (Interactive Data Language) from Research Systems, Inc. IDL is in my opinion, much better and infinitely easier. Its programming language is very strong and easy -- very Pascal-like. It handles the number-crunching very well, also. Personally, I like doing the number-crunching with IDL on the VAX (or Mathematica, Igor, or even Excel on the Mac if it's not too hairy), then bringing it over to NIH Image for the imaging part. I have yet to encounter any situation which that combination couldn't handle, and the speed and ease of use (compared to IRAF) was incredible. By the way, it's mostly astronomical image processing which I've been doing. This means image enhancement, cleaning up bad lines/pixels, and some other traditional image processing routines. Then, for example, taking a graph of intensity versus position along a line I choose with the mouse, then doing a curve fit to that line (which I might do like in KaleidaGraph.) " [ For IDL call Research Systems , for PV-WAVE call Precision Visuals and for SIPS call University of Colorado @ Boulder . From what I can understand, you can get packaged programs from Research Systems, though -- nfotis ] Visual3 ------- contact Robert Haimes, MIT FieldView --------- An interactive program designed to assist an engineer in investigating fluid dynamics data sets. Platforms: SGI, IBM, HP, SUN, X-terminals Availability: Currently available on all of the above platforms. Educational programs and volume discounts are available. Contact: Intelligent Light P.O. Box 65 Fair Lawn, NJ 07410 (201)794-7550 Steve Kramer ([email protected]) SciAn ------ SciAn is primarily intended to do 3-D visualizations of data in an interactive environment with the ability to generate animations using frame-accurate video recording devices. A user manual, on-line help, and technical notes will help you use the program. Cost : 0 (Free), source code provided via ftp. Platforms : SGI 4D machines and IBM RS/6000 with the GL card + Z-buffer Where to find it: ftp.scri.fsu.edu [144.174.128.34] : /pub/SciAn A mirror is monu1.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.101] : /pub/SciAn SCRY ---- [ From the README : ] Scry is a distributed image handling system that pro- vides image transport and compression on local and wide area networks, image viewing on workstations, recording on video equipment, and storage on disk. The system can be distri- buted among workstations, between supercomputers and works- tations, and between supercomputers, workstations and video animation controllers. The system is most commonly used to produce video based movie displays of images resulting from visualization of time dependent data, complex 3D data sets, and image processing operations. Both the clients and servers run on a variety of systems that provide UNIX-like C run-time environments, and 4BSD sockets. The source is available for anonymous ftp: csam.lbl.gov [128.3.254.6] : pub/scry.tar.Z Contact: Bill Johnston, ([email protected], ...ucbvax!csam.lbl.gov!johnston) or David Robertson ([email protected], ...ucbvax!csam.lbl.gov!davidr) Imaging Technologies Group MS 50B/2239 Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road Berkeley, CA 94720 SVLIB / FVS ----------- SVLIB is an X-Windows widget set based on the OSF (Open Software Foundation) Motif widget set. SVLIB widgets are macro-widgets comprising lower level Motif widgets such as buttons, scrollbars, menus, and drawing areas. It is designed to address the reusability of 2D visualization routines and each widget in the library is an encapsulation of a specific visualization technique such as colormap manipulation, image display, and contour plotting. It is targetted to run on UNIX workstations supporting OSF/Motif. Currently, only color monitors are supported. Since SVLIB is a collection of widgets developed in the same spirit as the OSF/Motif user interface widget set, it integrates seamlessly with the Motif widgets. Programmers using SVLIB widgets see the same interface and design as other Motif widgets. FVS is a visualization software for Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) simulations. FVS is designed to accept data generated from these simulations and apply various visualization techniques to present these data graphically. FVS accepts three-dimensional multi-block data recorded in NCSA HDF format. iti.gov.sg [192.122.132.130] : /pub/svlib (Scientific Visualization) /pu/fvs; These directories contain demo binaries for Sun4/SGI Cost : US$200 for academic and US$300 for non-academic institutions. (For each of the above items). You're getting the source for the licence. Contact ------- Miss Quek Lee Hian Member of Technical Staff Information Technology Institute National Computer Board NCB Building 71, Sicence Park Drive Singapore 0511 Republic of Singapore Tel : (65)7720435 Fax : (65)7795966 Email : [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------- GVLware Distribution: Bob - An interactive volume renderer for the SGI Raz - A disk based movie player for the SGI Icol - Motif color editor --------------------------------------------------------- The Army High Performance Computing Research Center (AHPCRC) has been developing a set of tools to work with large time dependent 2D and 3D data sets. In the Graphics and Visualization Lab (GVL) we are using these tools along side standard packages, such as SGI Explorer and the Utah Raster Toolkit, to render 3D volumes and create digital movies. A couple of the more general purpose programs have been bundled into a package called "GVLware". GVLware, currently consisting of Bob, Raz and Icol, is now available via ftp. The most interesting program is probably Bob, an interactive volume renderer for the SGI. Raz streams raster images from disk to an SGI screen, enabling movies larger than memory to be played. Icol is a color map editor that works with Bob and Raz. Source and pre-built binaries for IRIX 4.0.5 are included. To acquire GVLware, anonymous ftp to: machine - ftp.arc.umn.edu file - /pub/gvl.tar.Z To use GVLware: mkdir gvl ; cd gvl zcat gvl.tar.Z | tar xvf - more README Some Bob features: Motif interface, SGI GL rendering Renders 64 cubed data set in 0.1 to 1.0 seconds on a VGX Alpha Compositing and Maximum Value rendering, in perspective (only Maximum Value rendering on Personal Iris) Data must be a "Brick of Bytes", on a regularly spaced grid Animation, subvolumes, subsampling, stereo Some Raz features: Motif interface, SGI GL rendering Loads files to a raw disk partition, then streams to screen (requires an empty disk partition to be set aside) Script interface available for movie sequences Can stream from memory, like NCSA XImage Some Icol features: Motif interface Easy to create interpolated color maps between key points RGB, HSV and YUV color spaces, multiple file formats Communicates changes automatically to Bob and Raz Has been tested on SGI, Sun, DEC and Cray systems BTW: Bob == Brick of Bytes Icol == Interpolated Color Raz == ? (just a name) Please send any comments to [email protected] This software collection is supported by the Army Research Office contract number DAALO3-89-C-0038 with the University of Minnesota Army High Performance Computing Research Center. IAP --- Imaging Applications Platform is a commercial package for medical and scientific visualization. It does volume rendering, binary surface rendering, multiplanar reformating, image manipulation, cine sequencing, intermixes geometry and text with images and provides measurement and coordinate transform abilities. It can provide hardcopy on most medical film printers, image database functionality and interconnection to most medical (CT/MRI/etc) scanners. It is client/server based and provides an object oriented interface. It runs on most high performance workstations and takes full advantage of parallelism where it is available. It is robust, efficient and will be submitted for FDA approval for use in medical applications. Cost: $20K for OEM developer, $10K for educational developer and run times starting at $8900 and going down based on quantity. The developer packages include two days training for two people in Toronto. Available from: ISG Technologies 6509 Airport Road Mississauga, Ontario, Canada, L4V-1S7 (416) 672-2100 e-mail: Rod Gilchrist <[email protected]> ======================================================================== 18. Molecular visualization stuff ================================= [ Based on a list from [email protected] < Cristy > , which asked for systems for displaying Molecular Dynamics, MD for short ] Flex ---- It is a public domain package written by Michael Pique, at The Scripps Research Institute, La Jolla, CA. Flex is stored as a compressed, tar'ed archive (about 3.4MB) at perutz.scripps.edu [137.131.152.27], in pub/flex. It displays molecular models and MD trajectories. MacMolecule ----------- (for Macintosh). I searched with Archie, and the most promising place is sumex-aim.stanford.edu (info-mac/app, and info-mac/art/qt for a demo) MD-DISPLAY ---------- Runs on SGI machines. Call Terry Lybrand ([email protected]). XtalView -------- It is a crystallography package that does visualize molecules and much more. It uses the XView toolkit. Call Duncan McRee <[email protected]> [email protected]: ----------------------------- I am writing my own visualization code right now. I look at MD output (a specific format, easy to alter for the subroutine) on PC's. My program has hooks into GKS. If your friend has access to Phigs for X (PEX) and fortran bindings, I would be happy to share my evolving code (free of charge). Right now it can display supercells of up to 65 atoms (easy to change), and up to 100 time steps, drawing nearest neighbor bonds between 2 defining nn radii. It works acceptably fast on a 10Mhz 286. [email protected]: ------------------------------ I did a project on Molecular Visualization for my Master's Thesis, using UNIX/X11/Motif which generates a simple point and space-filling model. KGNGRAF ------- KGNGRAF is part of MOTECC-91. Look on malena.crs4.it (156.148.7.12), in pub/motecc. motecc.info.txt Information about MOTECC-91 in plain ascii format. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- motecc.info.troff Information about MOTECC-91 in troff format. motecc.form.troff MOTECC-91 order form in troff format. motecc.license.troff MOTECC-91 license agreement in troff format. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- motecc.info.ps Information about MOTECC-91 in PostScript format. motecc.form.ps MOTECC-91 order form in PostScript format. motecc.license.ps MOTECC-91 license agreement in PostScript format. [email protected]: ------------------------ I'm working on molecular dynamic too. A friend of mine and I have developed a program to display an MD run dynamically on Silicon Graphics. We are working to improve it, but it doesn't work under X, we are using the graphi. lib. of the Silicon Gr. because they are much faster then X. When we'll end it we'll post on the news info about where to get it with ftp. (Will be free software). XBall V2.0 ---------- Written by David Nedde. Call [email protected]. XMol ---- An X Window System program that uses OSF/Motif for the display and analysis of molecular model data. Data from several common file formats can be read and written; current formats include: Alchemy, CHEMLAB-II, Gaussian, MOLSIM, MOPAC, PDB, and MSCI's XYZ format (which has been designed for simplicity in translating to and from other formats). XMol also allows for conversion between several of these formats. Xmol is available at ftp.msc.edu. Read pub/xmol/README for further details. INSIGHT II ---------- from BIOSYM Technologies Inc. SCARECROW --------- The program has been published in J. Molecular Graphics 10 (1992) 33. The program can analyze and display CHARMM, DISCOVER, YASP and MUMOD trajectories. The program package contains also software for the generation of probe surfaces, proton affinity surfaces and molecular orbitals from an extended Huckel program. It works on Silicon Graphics machines. Contact Leif Laaksonen <[email protected] or [email protected]> MULTI ----- ns.niehs.nih.gov [157.98.8.8] : /pub - MULTI 3.0 (Multi-Process Molecular Modeling Suite) +MindTool +-------- + It runs under SunView, and requires a fortran compiler and Sun's CGI + libraries. MindTool is a tool provided for the interactive graphic + manipulation of molecules and atoms. Currently, up to 10,000 + atoms may be input. + Available via anonymous FTP, at rani.chem.yale.edu, directory + /pub/MindTool ( Check with Archie for other sites if that's too far ) [ I would also suggest looking at least in SGI's Applications Directory. It contains many more packages - nfotis ] =========================================================================== 19. GIS (Geographical Information Systems software) =================================================== GRASS ----- (Geographic Resource Analysis Support System) of the US Army Construction Engineering Research Lab (CERL). It is a popular geographic and remote sensing image processing package. Many may think of GRASS as a Geographic Information System rather than an Image Processing package, although it is reported to have significant image processing capabilities. Feature Descriptions I use GRASS because it's public domain and can be obtained through the internet for free. GRASS runs in Unix and is written in C. The source code can be obtained through an anonymous ftp from the Office of Grass Integration. You then compile the source code for your machine, using scripts provided with GRASS. I would recommend GRASS for someone who already has a workstation and is on a limited budget. GRASS is not very user-friendly, compared to Macintosh software." A first review of overview documentation indicates that it looks useful and has some pixel resampling functions not in other packages plus good general purpose image enhancement routines (fft). Kelly Maurice at Vexcel Corp. in Boulder, CO is a primary user of GRASS . This gentleman has used the GRASS software and developed multi-spectral (238 bands ??) volumetric rendering, full color, on Suns and Stardents. It was a really effective interface. Vexcel Corp. currently has a contract to map part of Venus and convert the Magellan radar data into contour maps. You can call them at (303) 444-0094 or email care of [email protected] 192.92.90.68 Host Configuration Requirements If you are willing to run A/UX you could install GRASS on a Macintosh which has significant image analysis and import capabilities for satellite data. GRASS is public-domain, and can run on a high-end PC under UNIX. It is raster-based, has some image-processing capability, and can display vector data (but analysis must be done in the raster environment). I have used GRASS V.3 on a SUN workstation and found it easy to use. It is best, of course, for data that are well represented in raster (grid-cell) form. Availability CERL's Office of Grass Integration (OGI) maintains an ftp server: moon.cecer.army.mil (129.229.20.254). Mail regarding this site should be addressed to [email protected]. This location will be the new "canonical" source for GRASS software, as well as bug fixes, contributed sources, documentation, and other files. This FTP server also supports dynamic compression and uncompression and "tar" archiving of files. A feature attraction of the server is John Parks' GRASS tutorial. Because the manual is still in beta-test stage, John requests that people only acquire it if they are willing to review it and mail him comments/corrections. The OGI is not currently maintaining this document, so all correspondence about it should be directed to [email protected] Support Listserv mailing lists: [email protected] (for GRASS users; application-level questions, support concerns, miscellaneous questions, etc) Send subscribe commands to [email protected]. [email protected] (for GRASS programmers; system-level questions and tips, tricks, and techniques of design and implementation of GRASS applications) Send subscribe commands to [email protected]. Both lists are maintained by the Office of Grass Integration (subset of the Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Lab in Champaign, IL). The OGI is providing the lists as a service to the community; while OGI and CERL employees will participate in the lists, we can make no claim as to content or veracity of messages that pass through the list. If you have questions, problems, or comments, send E-mail to [email protected] and a human will respond. Microstation Imager ------------------- Intergraph (based in Huntsville Alabama) sells a wide range of GIS software/hardware. Microstation is a base graphics package that Imager sits on top of. Imager is basically an image processing package with a heavy GIS/remote sensing flavor. Feature Description Basic geometry manipulations: flip, mirror, rotate, generalized affine. Rectification: Affine, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th order models as well as a projective model (warp an image to a vector map or to another image). RGB to IHS and IHS to RGB conversion. Principal component analysis. Classification: K-means and isodata. Fourier Xforms: Forward, filtering and reverse. Filters: High pass, low pass, edge enhancing, median, generic. Complex Histogram/Contrast control. Layer Controller: manages up to 64 images at a time -- user can extract single bands from a 3 band image or create color images by combining various individual bands, etc. The package is designed for a remote sensing application (it can handle VERY LARGE images) and there is all kinds of other software available for GIS applications. Host Configuration Requirements It runs on Intergraph Workstations (a Unix machine similar to a Sun) though there were rumors (there are always rumors) that the software would be ported to PC and possibly a Sun environment. PCI --- A company called PCI, Inc., out of Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada, makes an array of software utilities for processing, manipulation, and use of remote sensing data in eight or ten different "industry standard" formats: LGSOWG, BSQ, LANDSAT, and a couple of others whose titles I forget. The software is available in versions for MS-DOS, Unix workstations (among them HP, Sun, and IBM), and VMS, and quite possibly other platforms by now. I use the VMS version. The "PCI software" consists of several classes/groups/packages of utilities, grouped by function but all operating on a common "PCI database" disk file. The "Tape I/O" package is a set of utility programs which read from the various remote-sensing industry tape formats INTO, or write those formats out FROM, the "PCI database" file; this is the only package I use or know much about. Other packages can display data from the PCI database to one or another of several PCI-supported third-party color displays, output numeric or bitmap representation of image data to an attached printer, e.g. an Epson-type dot-matrix graphics printer. You might be more spe- cifically interested in the mathematical operations package: histo- gram and Fourier analysis, equalization, user-specified operations (e.g. "multiply channel 1 by 3, add channel 2, and store as channel 5"), and God only knows what all else -- there's a LOT. I don't have and don't use these, so can't say much about them; you only buy the packages your particular application/interest calls for. Each utility is controlled by from one to eight "parameters," read from a common "parameter file" which must be (in VMS anyway) in your "default directory." Some utilities will share parameters and use the same parameter for a different purpose, so it can get a bit confusing setting up a series of operations. The standard PCI environment contains a scripting language very similar to IBM-PC BASIC, but which allows you to automate the process of setting up parameters for a common, complicated, lengthy or difficult series of utility executions. (In VMS I can also invoke utilities independently from a DCL command procedure.) There's also an optional programming library which allows you to write compiled language programs which can interface with (read from/write to) the PCI data structures (database file, parameter file). The PCI software is designed specifically for remote-sensing images, but requires such a level of operator expertise that, once you reach the level where you can handle r-s images, you can figure out ways to handle a few other things as well. For instance, the Tape I/O package offers a utility for reading headerless multi-band (what Adobe PhotoShop on the Macintosh calls "raw") data from tape, in a number of different "interleave" orders. This turns out to be ideal for manipulating the graphic-arts industry's "CT2T" format, would probably (I haven't tried) handle Targa, and so on. Above all, however, you HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING or you can screw up to the Nth degree and have to start over. It's worth noting that the PCI "database" file is designed to contain not only "raster" (image) data, but vectors (for overlaying map information entered via digitizing table), land-use, and all manner of other information (I observe that a remote-sensing image tape often contains all manner of information about the spectral bands, latitude, longitude, time, date, etc. of the original satellite pass; all of this can go into the PCI "database"). I _believe_ that on workstations the built-in display is used. On VAX systems OTHER than workstations PCI supports only a couple of specific third-party display systems (the name Gould/Deanza seems to come to mind). One of MY personal workarounds was a display program which would display directly from a PCI "database" file to a Peritek VCT-Q (Q-bus 24-bit DirectColor) display subsystem. PCI software COULD be "overkill" in your case; it seems designed for the very "high end" applications/users, i.e. those for whom a Mac/PC largely doesn't suffice (although as you know the gap is getting smaller all the time). It's probably no coincidence that PCI is located in Canada, a country which does a LOT of its land/resource management via remote sensing; I believe the Canadian government uses PCI software for some of its work in these areas. SPAM (Spectral Analysis Manager) -------------------------------- Back in 1985 JPL developed something called SPAM (Spectral Analysis Manager) which got a fair amount of use at the time. That was designed for Airborne Imaging Spectrometer imagery (byte data, <= 256 pixels across by <= 512 lines by <= 256 bands); a modified version has since been developed for AVIRIS (Airborne VIsual and InfraRed Imaging Spectrometer) which uses much larger images. Spam does none of these things (rectification, classification, PC and IHS transformations, filtering, contrast enhancement, overlays). Actually, it does limited filtering and contrast enhancement (stretching). Spam is aimed at spectral identification and clustering. The original Spam uses X or SunView to display. The AVIRIS version may require VICAR, an executive based on TAE, and may also require a frame buffer. I can refer you to people if you're interested. PCW requires X for display. MAP II ------ Among the Mac GIS systems, MAP II is distributed by John Wiley. CLRview ------- CLRview is a 3-dimensional visualization program designed to exploit the real-time capabilities of Silicon Graphics IRIS computers. This program is designed to provide a core set of tools to aid in the visualization of information from CAD and GIS sources. It supports the integration of many common but disperate data sources such as DXF, TIN, DEM, Lattices, and Arc/Info Coverages among others. CLRview can be obtained from explorer.dgp.utoronto.ca (128.100.1.129) in the directory pub/sgi/clrview. Contact: Rodney Hoinkes Head of Design Applications Centre for Landscape Research University of Toronto Tel: (416) 978-7197 Email: [email protected] ========================================================================== End of Resource Listing
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Very simple. "X-Soviet Armenian government must pay for their crime of genocide against 2.5 million Muslims by admitting to the crime and making reparations to the Turks and Kurds." After all, your criminal grandparents exterminated 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914 and 1920. <[email protected]> [email protected] (Hovig Heghinian) You must be a new 'Arromdian'. You are counting on ASALA/SDPA/ARF crooks and criminals to prove something for you? No wonder you are in such a mess. That criminal idiot and 'its' forged/non-existent junk has already been trashed out by Mutlu, Cosar, Akgun, Uludamar, Akman, Oflazer and hundreds of people. Moreover, ASALA/SDPA/ARF criminals are responsible for the massacre of the Turkish people that also prevent them from entering Turkiye and TRNC. SDPA has yet to renounce its charter which specifically calls for the second genocide of the Turkish people. This racist, barbarian and criminal view has been touted by the fascist x-Soviet Armenian government as merely a step on the road to said genocide. Now where shall I begin? #From: [email protected] (Parlakbilek Ahmet) #Subject: YALANCI, LIAR : DAVIDIAN #Keywords: Davidian, the biggest liar #Message-ID: <[email protected]> Following is the article that Davidian claims that Hasan Mutlu is a liar: [some parts are deleted] - - - Receiving this message, I checked the reference, L.Kuper,"Genocide..." and what I have found was totally consistent with what Davidian said.The book was like "voice of Armenian revolutionists" and although I read the whole book, I could not find the original quota. But there was one more thing to check:The original posting of Mutlu.I found the original article of Mutlu.It is as follows: ====================================================================== ====== QUATO IS THE SAME, REFERENCE IS DIFFERENT ! DAVIDIAN LIED AGAIN, AND THIS TIME HE CHANGED THE ORIGINAL POSTING OF MUTLU JUST TO ACCUSE HIM TO BE A LIAR. Davidian, thank you for writing the page number correctly... You are the biggest liar I have ever seen.This example showed me that tomorrow you can lie again, and you may try to make me a liar this time.So I decided not to read your articles and not to write answers to you.I also advise all the netters to do the same.We can not prevent your lies, but at least we may save time by not dealing with your lies. And for the following line: I also return all the insults you wrote about Mutlu to you. I hope you will be drowned in your lies. Ahmet PARLAKBILEK #From: [email protected] (Vedat Dogan) #Message-ID: <[email protected]> n>crap posted by Mr. [(*]! o boy! Please, can you tell us why those quotes are "crap"?..because you do not like them!!!...because they really exist...why? As I said in my previous posting, those quotes exactly exist in the source given by Serdar Argic .. You couldn't reject it... Here we go again.. In the book I have, both the front page and the Author's preface give the same year: 1923 and 15 January, 1923, respectively! (Anyone can check it at her/his library,if not, I can send you the copies of pages, please ask by sct) I really don't care what year it was first published(1923 or 1924) What I care about is what the book writes about murders, tortures,et..in the given quotes by Serdar Argic, and your denial of these quotes..and your groundless accussations, etc. [...] I claim I have a book in my hand published in 1923(first publication) and it exactly has the same quoted info as the book published in 1934(Serdar Argic's Reference) has..You couldn't reject it..but, now you are avoiding the real issues by twisting around.. Let's see how you lie!..(from 'non-existing' quotes to re-publication) First you said there was no such a quote in the given reference..You called Serdar Argic a liar!.. I said to you, NO, MR.Davidian, there exactly existed such a quote... (I even gave the call number, page numbers..you could't reject it.) And now, you are lying again and talking about "modified,re-published book" (without any proof :how, when, where, by whom, etc..).. (by the way, how is it possible to re-publish the book in 1923 if it was first published in 1924(your claim).I am sure that you have some 'pretty well suited theories', as usual) And I am ready to send the copies of the necessary pages to anybody who wants to compare the fact and Mr.Davidian's lies...I also give the call number and page numbers again for the library use, which are: 949.6 R 198 and the page numbers to verify the quotes:218 and 215 Now, are you claiming that there can't be such a reference by saying "it is not possible..." ..If not, what is your point? Differences in the number of pages? Mine was published in 1923..Serdar Argic's was in 1934.. No need to use the same book size and the same letter charachter in both publications,etc, etc.. does it give you an idea!! The issue was not the number of pages the book has..or the year first published.. And you tried to hide the whole point.. the point is that both books have the exactly the same quotes about how moslems are killed, tortured,etc by Armenians..and those quotes given by Serdar Argic exist!! It was the issue, wasn't-it? you were not able to object it...Does it bother you anyway? You name all these tortures and murders (by Armenians) as a "crap".. People who think like you are among the main reasons why the World still has so many "craps" in the 1993. Any question? <[email protected]> [email protected] (Hovig Heghinian) Well, apparently we have another son of Dro 'the Butcher' to contend with. You should indeed be happy to know that you rekindled a huge discussion on distortions propagated by several of your contemporaries. If you feel that you can simply act as an Armenian governmental crony in this forum you will be sadly mistaken and duly embarrassed. This is not a lecture to another historical revisionist and a genocide apologist, but a fact. I will dissect article-by-article, paragraph-by-paragraph, line-by-line, lie-by-lie, revision-by-revision, written by those on this net, who plan to 'prove' that the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds is nothing less than a classic un-redressed genocide. We are neither in x-Soviet Union, nor in some similar ultra-nationalist fascist dictatorship, that employs the dictates of Hitler to quell domestic unrest. Also, feel free to distribute all responses to your nearest ASALA/SDPA/ARF terrorists, the Armenian pseudo-scholars, or to those affiliated with the Armenian criminal organizations. Armenian government got away with the genocide of 2.5 million Turkish men, women and children and is enjoying the fruits of that genocide. You, and those like you, will not get away with the genocide's cover-up. Not a chance. Serdar Argic
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Hello, Has anyone used the Requirements Analsys methodology Hatley & Pirbhai ? I am a British final year real-time degree student, and as a project I am covering this methodology. I would be very grateful to anyone who could give me their views on this method. Please mail me if you feel you can help, and I will send you my questions. Thanks in advance,
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FOR SALE: IBM-compatible XT personal computer (DOS) Brand: Acer Age: 4.5 years Specs: 640K RAM 20 meg hard drive 5 -1/4 floppy drive Color monitor 2400 baud USRobotics internal modem Bundled with loads of software: word processing, communications, spreadsheet, games. A good computer that successfully got me through all of my BA, MS, and half of my PhD (I decided to switch to a Mac for my dissertation). Perfect for high school student, college student, or person who needs basic word processing, spreadsheet, and/or database capabilities. Best offer. Reply to Laura Gurak [email protected]
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dillon comments that Space Food Sticks may have bad digestive properties. I don't think so. I think most NASA food products were designed to be low fiber 'zero-residue' products so as to minimize the difficulties of waste disposal. I'd doubt they'd deploy anything that caused whole sale GI distress. There aren't enough plastic baggies in the world for a bad case of GI disease.
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Uh, Gerald, I think he was joking...
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Roland HS-60 (SynthPlus 60) - 6 voice polyphonic fully programmable analog synthesizer - 61 full size keys - MIDI - Memory to store 128 patches - built in speakers - Connectors: MIDI in thru out, Input(2), Expansion Pedal, Head Phones, Tape Load & Save, Patch Shift, Pedal Hold, Output(2) Asking $225
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Well, my newsreader shows the UUE file as having lots of spaces, which means it's broken before I even try to download it. Did anyone get it to uudecode successfully? Aengus
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I have 16MB of memory on my 386SX. I have been running Windows without a swap file for several months. Will Mathcad 4.0 be happy with this, or insist on a swap file?
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You can avoid these problems entirely by installing an oil drain valve in place of the bolt. I have one on both of my cars. There have been no leaks in 210,000 miles (combined miles on both cars).
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There is a widget already defined for GL. It is the GlxMDraw (motif) or GlxDraw (athena) widget. It is similar to a XmDrawingArea, except that it allows you to use GL calls to render into the window. Look at glxlink, glxunlink, glxgetconfig, and glxwinset in the man pages. The GlxMDraw widget works pretty well. OpenGL will be an improvement. I think GL is a little easier to use and a little more powerful, but that's just an opinion. Mileage may vary.
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From: [email protected] (Rob Stampfli) >separate locations to gain credibility. If they are seized and you are >compelled to decrypt it, you simply explain that you are an amateur >cryptologist playing around with one time pads, and that the first >file is the pad for the second. They XOR the two files, and sure >enough, out pops a copy of "War and Peace". So, judging from recent history, at this point they drop the original charges, preemptively find you guilty of copyright violations, and seize your computer, your home, and your financial reserves under federal forfeiture laws. Ah no - what *really* happens is that they turn up at the court with *another* file which when exored with your document gives up the famous E911 document :-) [And I tell you, some judges would fall for it...]
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(a.k.a. Serdar Argic, The Merciful and Compassionate) [Serdar Argic's bountiful, divine, all-knowing, and footnoted wisdom is regrettably omitted for this solemn tribute.] WHERE CAN I JOIN THE SERDAR ARGIC FAN CLUB? DO I GET A T-SHIRT? --The Friendly Neighborhood Alien--
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Frequently of late, I have been reacting to something added to restaurant foods. What happens is that the inside of my throat starts to feel "puffy", like I have a cold, and also at times the inside of my mouth (especially the tongue) and lips also feel puffy. The situations around these symptoms almost always involve restaurants (usually chinese), the most notable cases: a cheap chinese fast food chain, a japanese steak house (I had the steak), and another chinese fast food chain where I SAW the cook put about a tablespoon or two of what looked like sugar or salt into my fried rice. I am under the impression that MSG "enhances" flavor by causing the taste buds to swell. If this is correct, I do not find it unreasonable to assume that high doses of MSG can cause other mouth tissues to swell. Also, as the many of the occurances (including two of the above) involved beef, and as beef is frequently tenderized with MSG, this is what I suspect as being the cause. I wouldn't be at all surprised if toxicity studies of MSG in animals showed it as being harmless, as it would be very startling to hear a lab rat or rhesus monkey complain about their throats feeling funny. Anyone who wishes to explain how the majority of food additives are totally harmless is welcome to e-mail me with the results of any studied they know of. I will probably respond to them however with a reminder of how long it took to prove that smoking causes cancer (which the tobacco companies still deny). - DM (If I sound grumpy, it's because I had beef with broccoli for lunch today, and now it hurts to swallow) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Myers (Madman) | If the creator had intended us to walk [email protected] | upright, he wouldn't have given us knuckles
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Therein lies the rub. The HD slash cut, or baloney cuts as some call them, ARE NOT STOCK mufflers. They're sold for "off-road use only," and are much louder than stock mufflers.
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I had asked everyone about problems installing a 4 meg simm and an 8 meg simm in my Centris 610, but the folks at the local Apple store called the folks in Cupertino and found that you can't have simms of different speeds in one machine, even if they are both fast enough - ie - My 80 ns 8 meg and 60ns 4 meg simms were incompatibable... Just thought people might want to know..... Jason.
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It can suppress secretion of prolactin. Is useful in cases of galactorrhea. Some adenomas of the pituitary secret too much. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and [email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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IM pleased to announce a new revolutionary device that allows you to copy super nintendo and genesis games to floppy disk. Then later play from floppy disk with out the cart. This is a independent system that interfaces with your SNES or Genesis. OTHER FEATURES *Store multiple copies of cart. save game to disk (up to 32 saves to disk) *Save your position in SNES games that don't norally have a save feature *Switch your SNES into slow motion mode *Use codes to get unlimited lives and other "cheats" in many games. The Multi-Game Hunter is capable of copying both SNES and Genesis game carts to standard IBM PC formated floppy disks. The games can them be played directly from the floppy disk. NOTE:IT does not require a PC Full color on-screen icons and menus make operation for the MGH so simple that even a child could operate it. Options can be selected simply by choosing the selection with the game controller and pressin a button. Add a Game saver adapter to your system for more game playing power. The Game saver allows you to save your position to disk in almost any SNES game! Reload your saved position any time. Enable it's slow-motion feature for those really tough games. For more control over game play, We have the Game finger software. The game finger software can give you unlimited lives or warp you to new levels in your favorite SNES games. Bring back to life those really frustrating games. Also if you know how to program 6518 6502 ASM code you can create your own SNES demos or games. MGH includes Base unit,disk drive (high density 3.5 drive), 16megabit RAM, 256 SRAM, all adapters and comes ready to hook up to your gameing system. ONly thing not included is the power supply which you can pick up at radio shack. All for only $500 DISCLAMER the customer assumes all responsibility for the use and or misuse of this product. We in no way encourage nor condone the use of this product for software piracy. This device is intended soley for making legal backup copies. Neither Nintendo or Sega has giving official endorsement of the products described herein.
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Does that mean that they're gonna bring back the Biscayne and Bel Air?
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[KK] david Yes? [KK] give it a rest. will you ??? No. [KK] it is increasingly becoming very annoying... Barbarism is rather annoying for you, now isn't it, especially when it comes from from a country, Azerbaijan, that claims Turkey as its number one ally, protector, and mentor!
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^^ Funny you should mention it...this is exactly the case I was going to make. I will grant that a star like Mario will draw fans, even if the team sucks. But this is short term only; I still do not think the attendance increase will last, unless the team is a winning/competitive/improving/butt-kicking one. Pittsburgh was still getting better, so people continued to support them. If they suddenly dropped to, say, 50 points, you'd have knee surgery for some of the people jumping off the bandwagon. Ok. My numbers came from the NHL Guide and Record Book. You can give the credit to Mario since he deserves it. But my point is that it wasn't Mario himself, but it was the *expectation* of things to come (i.e. a winning team) that he created by being the next great hockey superstar. And before anybody jumps in and says I'm nit-picking and mincing words, go back and read from where this thread started... It might help to think about what would go through a fan's mind who suddenly found an interest in Mario and the Pens. Was it "gee, Mario Lemieux is amazing, I'll go watch him play", or was it "gee, now we've got a *kick* *ass* guy on *our* side, I'll go watch him play". I think it was the latter. I don't think this is accurate. The *tickets* sell, but people don't go to the games. I think this thread has already been discussed...season ticket holders in LA don't always use their tickets. So in effect, after the Kings initial success following Gretzky's arrival (68 to 91 points, same source) and corresponding attendance jump, there has been an effective drop in attendance even though ticket sales may not have changed much. Whether or not the Kings are a 'winner' is debatable. I claim that since Gretzky's arrival they have at the very least been competitive...I also claim that McNall has made a stupid move in trying to reassemble the Oiler dynasty...but that's another story and included only because I don't like McNall:-). Anyway, McNall did do some heavy marketing around Gretzky, and that undoubtedly was also responsible for the attendance and merchandising sales, etc. But as I said, when the Kings have been in there little tailspins over the past couple of years there have been empty seats at the Forum even if the tickets were sold. For the short term, IMO. Although I think that it's inevitable that the team will improve with a player such as Lemieux or Gretzky, simply because they make people around them better. Well, at least we are in full agreement here! So are you saying Roger has ever had a valid point? <couldn't resist...> Yes, but they are doing no worse than last year. I think the same type of reasoning I applied to a new Pittsburgh fan applies to all the extra people showing up at Winnipeg games. It's difficult to predict, but do you think that if the Jets miss the playoffs next season that in the year after they will maintain their attendance levels? I seriously doubt it, because in that case the expectation of an improving team would be gone, with or without Selanne.
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Apparently not. Many people complain about the confusion that results from the filemanager/progman split. It's just a basic flaw.
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Relying on Canadian tourists and transplanted Northeasterners to support a team in Miami is crazy; espaecially when you have really deserving cities without a team such as San Diego & Milwaukee. I wish the Panthers or whatever their name is well but if they can't sell to Hispanics, they're in deep doo-doo. Already, there are rumors that Tampa may move to Milwaukee.
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I am in the process of installing X11R5 on my Sun Sparcstation 2 and have run into a problem. I imagine it has something to do with a missing screen driver, or something along those lines, but figured someone out there in Internet land might be able to help. I am installing it on a machine that already has OpenLook installed, and would like to have both installed concurrently. Thus, I set it up to compile to my /usr/X11R5 directory. I worked out all the kinks in getting it compiled (with gcc), so that it compiles without any warnings. I need it installed for PEX-SI, so I set all those appropriate flags. When I run it, however, I get a message along the lines of: Getting interface configuration : Operation not supported on socket sunOpenFrameBuffer : Inappropriate ioctl for device Fatal server error : no screens found Any ideas on how I can fix it? Please respond by e-mail at the below address. Thanks in advance. -Dan -- "I do not want to be immortalized through my works; I want to be immortalized through not dying." -Woody Allen
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Archive-name: space/constants Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:39:04 $ CONSTANTS AND EQUATIONS FOR CALCULATIONS This list was originally compiled by Dale Greer. Additions would be appreciated. Numbers in parentheses are approximations that will serve for most blue-skying purposes. Unix systems provide the 'units' program, useful in converting between different systems (metric/English, etc.) NUMBERS 7726 m/s (8000) -- Earth orbital velocity at 300 km altitude 3075 m/s (3000) -- Earth orbital velocity at 35786 km (geosync) 6371 km (6400) -- Mean radius of Earth 6378 km (6400) -- Equatorial radius of Earth 1738 km (1700) -- Mean radius of Moon 5.974e24 kg (6e24) -- Mass of Earth 7.348e22 kg (7e22) -- Mass of Moon 1.989e30 kg (2e30) -- Mass of Sun 3.986e14 m^3/s^2 (4e14) -- Gravitational constant times mass of Earth 4.903e12 m^3/s^2 (5e12) -- Gravitational constant times mass of Moon 1.327e20 m^3/s^2 (13e19) -- Gravitational constant times mass of Sun 384401 km ( 4e5) -- Mean Earth-Moon distance 1.496e11 m (15e10) -- Mean Earth-Sun distance (Astronomical Unit) 1 megaton (MT) TNT = about 4.2e15 J or the energy equivalent of about .05 kg (50 gm) of matter. Ref: J.R Williams, "The Energy Level of Things", Air Force Special Weapons Center (ARDC), Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico, 1963. Also see "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons", compiled by S. Glasstone and P.J. Dolan, published by the US Department of Defense (obtain from the GPO). EQUATIONS Where d is distance, v is velocity, a is acceleration, t is time. Additional more specialized equations are available from: ames.arc.nasa.gov:pub/SPACE/FAQ/MoreEquations For constant acceleration d = d0 + vt + .5at^2 v = v0 + at v^2 = 2ad Acceleration on a cylinder (space colony, etc.) of radius r and rotation period t: a = 4 pi**2 r / t^2 For circular Keplerian orbits where: Vc = velocity of a circular orbit Vesc = escape velocity M = Total mass of orbiting and orbited bodies G = Gravitational constant (defined below) u = G * M (can be measured much more accurately than G or M) K = -G * M / 2 / a r = radius of orbit (measured from center of mass of system) V = orbital velocity P = orbital period a = semimajor axis of orbit Vc = sqrt(M * G / r) Vesc = sqrt(2 * M * G / r) = sqrt(2) * Vc V^2 = u/a P = 2 pi/(Sqrt(u/a^3)) K = 1/2 V**2 - G * M / r (conservation of energy) The period of an eccentric orbit is the same as the period of a circular orbit with the same semi-major axis. Change in velocity required for a plane change of angle phi in a circular orbit: delta V = 2 sqrt(GM/r) sin (phi/2) Energy to put mass m into a circular orbit (ignores rotational velocity, which reduces the energy a bit). GMm (1/Re - 1/2Rcirc) Re = radius of the earth Rcirc = radius of the circular orbit. Classical rocket equation, where dv = change in velocity Isp = specific impulse of engine Ve = exhaust velocity x = reaction mass m1 = rocket mass excluding reaction mass g = 9.80665 m / s^2 Ve = Isp * g dv = Ve * ln((m1 + x) / m1) = Ve * ln((final mass) / (initial mass)) Relativistic rocket equation (constant acceleration) t (unaccelerated) = c/a * sinh(a*t/c) d = c**2/a * (cosh(a*t/c) - 1) v = c * tanh(a*t/c) Relativistic rocket with exhaust velocity Ve and mass ratio MR: at/c = Ve/c * ln(MR), or t (unaccelerated) = c/a * sinh(Ve/c * ln(MR)) d = c**2/a * (cosh(Ve/C * ln(MR)) - 1) v = c * tanh(Ve/C * ln(MR)) Converting from parallax to distance: d (in parsecs) = 1 / p (in arc seconds) d (in astronomical units) = 206265 / p Miscellaneous f=ma -- Force is mass times acceleration w=fd -- Work (energy) is force times distance Atmospheric density varies as exp(-mgz/kT) where z is altitude, m is molecular weight in kg of air, g is local acceleration of gravity, T is temperature, k is Bolztmann's constant. On Earth up to 100 km, d = d0*exp(-z*1.42e-4) where d is density, d0 is density at 0km, is approximately true, so d@12km (40000 ft) = d0*.18 d@9 km (30000 ft) = d0*.27 d@6 km (20000 ft) = d0*.43 d@3 km (10000 ft) = d0*.65 Atmospheric scale height Dry lapse rate (in km at emission level) (K/km) ------------------------- -------------- Earth 7.5 9.8 Mars 11 4.4 Venus 4.9 10.5 Titan 18 1.3 Jupiter 19 2.0 Saturn 37 0.7 Uranus 24 0.7 Neptune 21 0.8 Triton 8 1 Titius-Bode Law for approximating planetary distances: R(n) = 0.4 + 0.3 * 2^N Astronomical Units (N = -infinity for Mercury, 0 for Venus, 1 for Earth, etc.) This fits fairly well except for Neptune. CONSTANTS 6.62618e-34 J-s (7e-34) -- Planck's Constant "h" 1.054589e-34 J-s (1e-34) -- Planck's Constant / (2 * PI), "h bar" 1.3807e-23 J/K (1.4e-23) - Boltzmann's Constant "k" 5.6697e-8 W/m^2/K (6e-8) -- Stephan-Boltzmann Constant "sigma" 6.673e-11 N m^2/kg^2 (7e-11) -- Newton's Gravitational Constant "G" 0.0029 m K (3e-3) -- Wien's Constant "sigma(W)" 3.827e26 W (4e26) -- Luminosity of Sun 1370 W / m^2 (1400) -- Solar Constant (intensity at 1 AU) 6.96e8 m (7e8) -- radius of Sun 1738 km (2e3) -- radius of Moon 299792458 m/s (3e8) -- speed of light in vacuum "c" 9.46053e15 m (1e16) -- light year 206264.806 AU (2e5) -- \ 3.2616 light years (3) -- --> parsec 3.0856e16 m (3e16) -- / Black Hole radius (also called Schwarzschild Radius): 2GM/c^2, where G is Newton's Grav Constant, M is mass of BH, c is speed of light Things to add (somebody look them up!) Basic rocketry numbers & equations Aerodynamical stuff Energy to put a pound into orbit or accelerate to interstellar velocities. Non-circular cases?
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Whenever I start File Manager, the status bar is not displayed, even though it is selected in the options menu. If I deselect it, then select it again, the bar appears. Anyone have any ideas why this is happening? Thanks
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Do you or does anyone you know have a wrecked 1981 or later R80(anything) or R100(anything) that they are interested in getting rid of? I need a motor, but will buy a whole bike. email replies to: [email protected] or: [email protected]
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I just put one in my machine last week. I have an AST 486/66. I was getting ~10million winmarks with my Diamond SS24, and the #9 board is doing ~20million winmarks. From my brief experiences with it, i'm very satisfied. BTW, this is with Win 3.1.
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I have made this clear elsewhere but will do so again. Khomeini put a price on the head of someone in another country, this makes him a jerk as well as an international outlaw. Khomeini advocates the view that there was a series of twelve Islamic leaders (the Twelve Imams) who are free of error or sin. This makes him a heretic. In the Qur'an Muhammad is chastised for error directly by God; the Qur'an says that Muhammad is the greatest example of proper Islamic behavior; thus no muslim is free from error. Perhaps it seems so to you, but this is hardly the case. There is widespread agreement about matters of Islam. There certainly are many viewpoints on issues which are not particularly Islamic in and of themselves, but this is so for any large group of people under the same name. The Qur'an is not particularly imprecise in wording, though it is true that several interpretations are possible in the interpretations of many words. However, as an entire text the Qur'an makes its meanings precise enough for intelligent people free from power lust to come to agreement about them.
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Following a series of miscarriages, my wife was given a transfusion of my white cells. (The theory as I understand it is that there is some kind of immune blocking that prevents the body from attacking the pregnancy as it normally would a "foreign" body. Where this blocking is deficient, the body evicts the "intruder", resulting in a miscarriage. The white cells apparently enhance the blocking capability.) Following the transfusion, she successfully carried the next pregnancy to term, and Jake is now an active 9 month-old who cannot wait to walk. We're now thinking about having another child, but no one (including the OBGYN who supervised the first transfusion) really seems to know whether or not the transfusion process needs to be repeated for successive pregnancies. Is there anyone in net-land who has experience with this? Thanks...Gene (and Jane and Jake)
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That will make it easy for a car thief. Saves him/her the trouble of popping your ignition!
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Of course it releases radiation! Thats why your car goes faster when you punch the holes in it. All that radiation gets on your engine and gives it "pep" (scientific term). You get more horsepower & torque too! If you don't know what HP & torque are, you can read mile long threads on the subject, but they are all wrong. Horsepower is how much power a horse can make pulling a Subaru, and torque is a name invented by Craftsman for a wrench.
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How about some numbers here? Some kind of benchmark? If you want, let me start it - 486DX2-66 - 32 SPECint92, 16 SPECfp92 . Numbers? Pentium @66MHz - 65 SPECint92, 57 SPECfp92 . PowerPC @66MHz - 50 SPECint92, 80 SPECfp92 . (Note this is the 601) (Alpha @150MHz - 74 SPECint92,126 SPECfp92 - just for comparison) Not in a clock-doubled system. There isn't a doubling in performance, but it _is_ quite significant. Maybe about a 70% increase in performance. Besides, for 0 wait state performance, you'd need a cache anyway. I mean, who uses a processor that runs at the speed of 80ns SIMMs? Note that this memory speed corresponds to a clock speed of 12.5 MHz. Numbers? -- Ravikumar Venkateswar [email protected]
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What's with you stupid dorks from the "Western Business School"???!!! First there was that Cary asshole, and now you. Don't you have anything better to do instead of being obnoxious, antagonistic little shits over the network??? Why don't you just take a hike, and stop embarrasing yourself, your school, and Canada!
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Possibly because gay/bi men are less likely to get married? What was the purpose of this post? If it was to show a mindless obsession with statistics, an incredibly flawed system of reasoning, and a repellent hatemonger agenda, then the purpose was accomplished with panache. (a) Get a clue. (b) Get a life. (c) Get out of my face. I'm not in yours. Drewcifer
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Hmmm. Here's food for thought: " ...but rather be in fear of him who can destroy both soul and body in gehenna." Math 10:28
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<>Hismanal (astemizole) is most definitely linked to weight gain. <>It really is peculiar that some antihistamines have this effect, <>and even more so an antihistamine like astemizole which purportedly <>doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier and so tends not to cause <>drowsiness. < <The original poster mentioned fatigue. I had that too, but it was <mostly due to the really bizarre dreams I was having -- I wasn't getting <any rest. My doctor said that was a common reaction. If astemizole <doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier, how does it cause that side <effect? Any ideas?
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Does anyone know if a source for the TCM3105 modem chips (as used in the Baycom and my PMP modems)? Ideally, something that is geared toward hobbyists: small quantity, mail order, etc. For years, we've been buying them from a distributor (Marshall) by the hundreds for PMP kits. But orders have dropped to the point where we can no longer afford to offer this service. And all of the distributors I've checked have some crazy minimum order ($100, or so). I'd like to find a source for those still interested in building PMP kits. Any suggestions?
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Yes, please create the group alt.raytrace soon!! I'm hooked on pov. geez. like I don't have anything better to do.... OH!! dave letterman is on...
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The Swiss population is (and well was) far larger than that. I think your question should be, "...losing sleep over a million expert riflemen?" Certainly he could have conquered Switzerland, but a million armed militiamen (especially in a mountainous area, where tanks' effectiveness is limited) would have made it a real pain. The question a conqueror would ask, is "is it worth the trouble?" The more difficult an invasion is, the more likely the answer would be "no." Certainly a million riflemen (as opposed to a professional army of only ten or twenty thousand, the best a country the size of Switzerland could support), makes invasions more difficult. Really? In 1939? I'm not even sure you could prove that today (despite the steriotype.) Certainly the Swiss bankers were not essential to the German war-time economy.
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I don't think the Book of Mormon was supposedly translated from Biblical Hebrew. I've read that "prophet Joseph Smith" traslated the gold tablets from some sort of Egyptian-ish language. Former Mormons, PLEASE post.
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DJ> Subject: New aircraft TU-154M for leasing, set spare parts. DJ> ~~ DJ> There are a few things wrong with the potential sale of this DJ> aircraft: DJ> There is starting to be a glut of new aircraft on the market DJ> (Airlines are taking delivery, then mothballing their new DJ> planes). DJ> Unless the fuel efficiency is better than the Airbus 320 or DJ> Boeing 767, this plane is not economically feasible for the DJ> major players (airlines). Unless the price is real cheap, and DJ> you have an owner that doesn't care about fuel economy (Saudi DJ> Family, maybe??) sales ought to be pretty glim. Ummm... I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a gov't aid program to subsidize and/or underwrite the lease... that could make it quite an attractive arrangement... Bizarre? Yes. Impossible? Not really...
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This isn't entirely true. It is true that TrueType fonts are larger than their ATM counterparts, but ATM fonts *do* get minimal compression. Running Stacker 3.0 report generator, I get: File Type: Compression Ratio: ------------- ------------------ *.TTF (TrueType) 1.4:1.0 *.PFB (ATM) 1.1:1.0 *.PFM (ATM Metric) 11.8:1.0 Although the metric files are small, they compress quite largely. And, as you can see, even the regular .PFB files have *some* compression. So, doing the math on one such comparitive font file: TTF Times = 83260 bytes/1.4 = 59471 bytes (compressed) PFB Times = 51549 bytes/1.1 = 46862 bytes (Compressed) You still win out, even if the ATM Times font *isn't* compressed. Your mileage may vary depending on compression program.
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Oh... I forgot... Art Shamsky, former Red and Mets player. Batted .301 between injuries in 1969 (fell short of qualifying for Top 10 because of injuries and platoon with Ron Swoboda; no Swobo wasn't Jewish).
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So it was a complete non-sequitur, is that it? How does coming up with a derisory deal tell us anything about the existence of "objective" values. You're asking us to accept that the deal you offered would be turned down, and we believe that, not because we appeal to objective values but becasue we know, or think we know, something about people. All the people we know exhibit *subjective* values that would lead them to reject a deal of $1 for all of the land in America. Great. Now, so what?
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Good point, but I was just thinking.. I wanted to sell my HP28sx calculator here in this newsgroup... It is called a calculator, but really it is a computer, albeit a small one, but it does function as one... How come car adds are acceptable? They cant run without computers nowadays.... Where does one draw the line? Accept it, live with it, and if you care to, avoid it.... jonathan
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Lowenstein is NOT Jewish. However, there is a long list including Hank Greenberg, Moe Berg, Rod Carew (a convert), the Sherry brothers, Art Shamsky, and Ron Blomberg.
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Except for the fact that there seems to be a lot of high scoring AL games also and I don't think the expansion teams directly affect them. K. Scott Day ([email protected]) Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center Code 1252 Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * "The point to remember is that what the government gives * it must first take away." * -John S. Coleman
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If you specify the rootwindow when you are creating your GC. You may use Xlib to draw over multiple windows. I have an application that does something similar for rubber banding. curs_move = XCreateFontCursor (disp_data, XC_crosshair); geom_vals.foreground = blck_pixl ^ grey_dark; geom_vals.plane_mask = AllPlanes; geom_vals.line_width = 0; geom_vals.function = GXxor; geom_vals.subwindow_mode = IncludeInferiors; evnt_mask= GCForeground | GCPlaneMask | GCLineWidth | GCFunction | GCSubwindowMode; geom_gcon= XCreateGC (disp_data, root_iden, evnt_mask, &geom_vals); later I can move the rubber band or bands using the following logic /**********************************************************************/ void Tselect::move_bands (int delt_xloc, int delt_yloc) /****/ stuff deleted ... XDrawRectangle (disp_data, root_iden, geom_gcon, sele_pntr->rootx, sele_pntr->rooty, sele_pntr->xlnth, sele_pntr->ylnth); undraw old one sele_pntr->papax+= delt_xloc; sele_pntr->papay+= delt_yloc; sele_pntr->rootx+= delt_xloc; sele_pntr->rooty+= delt_yloc; XDrawRectangle (disp_data, root_iden, geom_gcon, sele_pntr->rootx, sele_pntr->rooty, sele_pntr->xlnth, sele_pntr->ylnth); draw new one more stuff deleted hope this helps -- Brian Dealy |301-572-8267| It not knowing where it's at [email protected] | | that's important,it's knowing !uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy | | where it's not at... B.Dylan
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Your kidding, $210.00, man o man, you can buy the system new for $49.00 at Electronic Boutique and those games are only about $15 - $20.00 brand new. Maybe you should think about that price again if you REALLY need the money. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Wayne State University Steve Teolis 6050 Cass Ave. # 238 Detroit, MI 48202
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[KT] HELLO, shit face david, I see that you are still around. I dont want to [KT] see your shitty writings posted here man. I told you. So ... close your eyes and walk away. [KT] You are getting itchy as your fucking country. I have been defending the history of the Armenians on this network for over six years. I have seen the likes of you enter his forum, make fools of themselves, and "simply vanish" as did the Armenians in 1915! [KT] Hey , and dont give me that freedom of speach bullshit once more. Realize sir, you are not in Turkey! In the USA freedom of speech is not considered "bullshit". It is because of such freedoms that Turks like yourself are allowed to attend Georgia Tech. [KT] Because your freedom has ended when you started writing things about my [KT] people. And try to translate this "ebenin donu butti kafa David.". What's the problem? If you can't stand the heat -- leave! Your government murdered 1.5 million Armenians and you would have me stay quiet to suit your personal fancy or some fascist fetish regarding the greatness of Turkey! Well, that is simply too bad. [KT] BYE, ANACIM HADE. [KT] TIMUCIN Pis bogaz!
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Geez wharfie, do you have to be so difficult? Mine was built in December '88, which qualifies as pretty dang early, and it most certainly grinds away.
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This is a test. Thanks.
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And doubtless, when an atheist does an act of charity they temporarily become a Baptist.
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Years ago when I was an intern, an obese young woman was brought into the ER comatose after having been reported to have grand mal seizures why attending a "corn festival". We pumped her stomach and obtained what seemed like a couple of liters of corn, much of it intact kernals. After a few hours she woke up and was fine. I was tempted to sign her out as "acute corn intoxication." -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and [email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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Israel - Happy 45th Birthday!
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I am very interested in investigations of starvation for improving health. I am the young Russian reseacher and have highest medical education and expierence in reseach work in biological field and would like to work on this problem. Can anybody send me the adresses of the hospitals or Medical Centers where scientific problems of human starvation for the health are investigated? Also I would like to set scientific contacts with colleagues who deals with investigations in this field. I would be very appreciated anyone reply me. Pls, contact by post: 142292, Russia, Moscow Region, Puschino, P.O. box 46, for Kravchenko N. ; or by e-mail: [email protected]
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I've been reading, with much confusion, about whether or not to use ATManager. Lately, all the packages I've been buying have all included ATManager as a "bonus" I do some desktop publishing using PageMaker and Coreldraw. Coreldraw comes with a nifty laser disk that contains over 200 diff types. Add that to the TTfonts that come with win31 and you have a decent amount of fonts. I print my creations out on an HP4 Postcript, at 600 dpi resolution with the "Resolution Enhancement Technology" and .. well ... I get some darn good copies. So good that there isn't any diff whether or not ATManager is turned on or not. Is it worth it to run ATM at all? Especially with these better printer technologies ... and TT?
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