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Since this posting, I've received no replies or followups, so I'm posting here hoping for the feedback I didn't get in rec.audio.car: article number - 9855 Newsgroups: rec.audio.car Path: cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com!vinlai From: [email protected] (vincent.lai) Subject: Third party car antennas ... Message-ID: <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Organization: AT&T Distribution: na Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 20:23:33 GMT I recently saw a particular third party antenna on a new Camry (not mine, but it caught my interest) and a new 626. It seems to replace the factory power antenna and is about a foot long made of plastic tubing. I have seen them on quite a few cars, but I can't find anything more about them in previous r.a.c articles nor in r.a articles. I'd like to know all I can, so any feedback is greatly appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Mom, we're hungry!" - Bud Bundy "Why tell me?" - Peg Bundy Vincent Lai [email protected] forwards mail to [email protected] which eventually winds up in [email protected]
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I think I have the same problem. I think it is caused by the rubber ball in the mouse, which doesn't roll so smooth. The detectors in the mouse notice this and whoops, I hit a mine (using minesweeper :-) ). I think the solution will be buying a new mouse, and/or using a mouse pad.
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Hey folks! Just moments ago, I uploaded the Bungee Jumper After Dark module that was widely talked about on here some time ago. It's at ftp.cica.indiana.edu, in /pub/pc/win3/uploads, titled simply bungee.zip. Be sure to set your ftp connection to binary mode before downloading. If you have any other After Dark shareware/freeware modules, please upload them too. The more the merrier. Andrew --
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Except from clock frequency, what are the differences between the various types of 386 and 486 processors? The following is a list with what I know (or perhaps only what I think I know!). Can anybody extend & correct? 80386: True 32 bit processor. (cache?) 80386SX: Emulates 80386 with a 16 bit bus. 80486: True 32 bit processor. Internal mathematical coprocessor (Correct?) Internal cache (Correct? How big?) (extended instruction set in any way?) 80486SX: Probably sorta like 80486... 80486DX: Probably sorta like 80386... Well, it's not much, but I'm sure there is a lot of people out there who can add a lot of information. Post or email as you prefer.
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Has anyone tried or does anyone know if this procedure will work on an SE/30? Mine's old, slow, and in need of either death or power. -Kelley- -- --------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Kelley Boylan, PowerPC, IBM Austin, (512) 838-1869
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How about Kevin Hatcher? Scored roughly 35 goals, plays 30 minutes a game. That's really sad when two second-rate goalies (Barasso and Belfour) are the main contenders for the Vezina. Call me crazy, but how about Tommy Soderstrom - five shutouts for a 6th place team that doesn't really play defense. It's really unfortunate that the better goalies in the league (McLean, Essensa, Vernon) had unspectacular years. BTW, if you are going to award the Norris on the basis of the last 30 days, why not give the Vezina to Moog? He has been the best goalie over the past month. Arbour or King. Burns will probably win, since playoffs aren't taken into consideration - he's OK in the regular season, but I'm not sure if he's beaten anyone other than Hartford in the playoffs.
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Having met Peter Kingston (of WBT) some years back, he struck me as an exemplery and dedicated Christian whose main concern was with translation of the Word of God and the welfare of the people group he was serving. WBT literature is concerned mainly with providing Scripture in minority languages. The sort of criticism leveled at an organisation such as this along the lines of "ideological manipulation and cultural interference" is probably no more than Christianising and education - in this WBT will stand alongside the early Christian missionaries to parts of Africa, or those groups who worked among native Americans a couple hundred years ago. I think you need to substantiate these attacks as being a legitimate criticism of priorities other than spreading the gospel among underdeveloped people.
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The VW "Thing" Kubelwagen lookalike is still manufactured in Mexico and possibly South America. Good luck importing one-- They probably don't meet US safety and pollution requirements. There are mechanics and junkyards which specialize in VW; they might be helpful for finding a "Thing" unless the WWII re-enacters have grabbed them all. The WWII Kubelwagen was the German equivalent of the Jeep, but was not 4- wheel drive. One is on display at the Patton Museum at Fort Knox, Kentucky, also the rare "Schwimwagen" (sp?) amphibious version, in full-scale dioramas. Highly recommended! --
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The San Jose Mercury News described him as "a 61-year old retired chemical engineer".
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I heard it will be the Minnesota-Detroit game. Don't know the time though. Dave
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Consider this: The BDs had more than one lamp; The tanks made more than one hole in the building. Did anyone else notice on the video that it appeared that wherever there was smoke coming out of the building, there was a tank nearby? The fact that it appears that fires started in several places does not rule out anything. Also, where are these several witnesses? The way I heard it (from the FBI spokesman on CNN) the "witnesses" were all people driving the tanks. Too bad nothing will happen to her or him. The FBI and the media have done their job well.
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A friend of mine is seeing an acupuncturist and wants to know if there is any danger of getting AIDS from the needles. Thanks,
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The South Florida Colons. :)
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Speech by Pete Worden Delivered Before the U.S. Space Foundation Conference Colorado Springs, Colorado April 15, 1993 What a delightful opportunity to cause some trouble. For providing me this forum I would sincerely like to thank the U.S. Space Foundation. My topic today is the Single Stage Rocket Technology rocket or SSRT. By I intend to speak of more. How to lower the cost and make rapid progress. SSRT is to my mind -- and I hope to convince you -- the erupting a new rallying cry for our generation in space -- Faster, Cheaper, and Better. Faster, Cheaper, Better and SSRT represent the passing of a torch from one technical generation to another. It is a new thing to be sure -- but it is also a relearning of old things from past masters. When we rolled out the SSRT baby two weeks ago, so called experts told us it violates the laws of physics -- it made no sense. For example, Dr. Eberhart Rachtin - former president of the Aerospace Corp., said of SSRT in the L.A. Times that it, "defies the best principles of launching payloads into space." Well Dr. Rachtin -- you've made us mad! What are these principles that SSRT defies? Well I'll tell you. It violates the principle that you need a giant program office to build space hardware. It violates the "fact" that it takes 20 years to build something new. And it violates the truism that you cant do anything significant for less than many billions of dollars. It took some of the last generation's experts to teach us some new/old lessons. Werhner Von Braun's first rocket was not a Saturn V. General Schriever's ICBM's didn't take ten years to demonstrate. And the X-1 airplane didn't cost $1 billion. It took one of the great engineers of the 1950's to remind us of these truths -- Max Hunter. Max, to remind you, was a senior engineer in the Thor IRBM program, and old faster, better, cheaper success story. Max has been persistent in a vision of a single stage reusable space launch system since the 1960's. Because he knew it had to be done in affordable steps - Build a little, Test a little. Next he persuaded us to do a technology demonstration. We didn't solicit a bunch of requirements -- they'd just change every few years anyway. [ not included in the speech -- The ALS/NLS has such ephemeral requirements that it would better known as "Shape Shifter" than "Space Lifter." We didn't spend a lot money -- this X-Rocket only cost $60 million. When's the last time we even built a new airplane for that? And it didn't take a lot of time to build -- McDonnell Douglas completed it in 18 months. Finally, the government program office consisted of one very over-worked Air Force Major -- motivated in part by the threat that he'd get to ride on it in a strapped-on lawn chair if it ran over cost or schedule. As I described what SSRT is -- and isn't keep in mind its only a first step. There are several more steps -- and steps that can easily fail -- before the U.S. can field an SSTO. But each step should follow the same principles -- a small management team -- a few years technology demonstration -- and a modest budget. Let me show a few details on SSRT and how it might evolve: (See charts) I'm embarrassed when my generation is compared with the last generation -- the giants of the last great space era, the 1950's and 1960's. They went to the moon - we built a telescope that can't see straight. They soft-landed on Mars - the least we could do is soft-land on Earth! But we do have an answer. We can follow their build a little, test a little philosophy to produce a truly affordable and routine access to space. I know there are nay sayers among you -- those who say SSRT is a stunt. It needs more thermal protection, the engines are wrong, it would be better to land horizontally, etc, etc. I say to you -- we'll see you at White Sands in June. You bring your view-graphs, and I'll bring my rocketship. If we do what we say we can do, then you let us do the next step. [ not included in the speech: If we fail -- you still have your program offices, staff summary sheets, requirement analyses, and decade long programs.]
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I hope you realize that for a cellular phone, you need to subscribe to a Cellular carrier, and it usually takes at least one working day before the service is available to you. Only then you can find out whether the phone is working.
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I wanted to know if any of you out there can recommend a good book about graphics, still and animated, and in VGA/SVGA. Thanks in advance
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I have also heard about HCI claiming thant anyone they get an address from is a member. If this is the case their membership rolls are grossly inflated and we should not call them and give them a name and address to add to their already false rolls. Perhaps if you could get a copy of their existing membership, then pretend to be an existing member, do that several thousand times, you could hurt HCI. But names are power. Remeber the NRA uses the fact that it has 3 million paid members in order to flex its muscles. Perhaps politicians don't realize the lying tactics of HCI, wait a minute, HCI learned it from politicians....
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This kind of argument cries for a comment... : >>...God did not create : >>disease nor is He responsible for the maladies of newborns. : > : >>What God did create was life according to a protein code which is : >>mutable and can evolve. Without delving into a deep discussion of : >>creationism vs evolutionism, God created the original genetic code : >>perfect and without flaw. : > ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Do you have any evidence for this? If the code was once perfect, and has degraded ever since, we _should_ have some evidence in favour of this statement, shouldn't we? Perhaps the biggest "imperfection" of the code is that it is full of non-coding regions, introns, which are so called because they intervene with the coding regions (exons). An impressive amount of evidence suggests that introns are of very ancient origin; it is likely that early exons represented early protein domains. Is the number of introns decreasing or increasing? It appears that intron loss can occur, and species with common ancestry usually have quite similar exon-intron structure in their genes. On the other hand, the possibility that introns have been inserted later, presents several logical difficulties. Introns are removed by a splicing mechanism - this would have to be present, but unused, if introns are inserted. Moreover, intron insertion would have required _precise_ targeting - random insertion would not be tolerated, since sequences for intron removal (self-splicing of mRNA) are conserved. Besides, transposition of a sequence usually leaves a trace - long terminal repeats and target - site duplications, and these are not found in or near intron sequences. I seriously recommend reading textbooks on molecular biology and genetics before posting "theological arguments" like this. Try Watson's Molecular Biology of the Gene or Darnell, Lodish & Baltimore's Molecular Biology of the Cell for starters. : Remember, the question was posed in a theological context (Why does : God cause disease in newborns?), and my answer is likewise from a : theological perspective -- my own. It is no less valid than a purely : scientific perspective, just different. Scientific perspective is supported by the evidence, whereas theological perspectives often fail to fulfil this criterion. : I think you misread my meaning. I said God made the genetic code perfect, : but that doesn't mean it's perfect now. It has certainly evolved since. For the worse? Would you please cite a few references that support your assertion? Your assertion is less valid than the scientific perspective, unless you support it by some evidence. In fact, it has been claimed that parasites and diseases are perhaps more important than we've thought - for instance, sex might have evolved as defence against parasites. (This view is supported by computer simulations of evolution, eg Tierra.) : Perhaps. I thought it was higher energy rays like X-rays, gamma : rays, and cosmic rays that caused most of the damage. In fact, it is thermal energy that does most of the damage, although it is usually mild and easily fixed by enzymatic action. : Actually, neither of us "knows" what the atmosphere was like at the : time when God created life. According to my recollection, most : biologists do not claim that life began 4 billion years ago -- after : all, that would only be a half billion years or so after the earth : was created. It would still be too primitive to support life. I : seem to remember a figure more like 2.5 to 3 billion years ago for : the origination of life on earth. Anyone with a better estimate? I'd replace "created" with "formed", since there is no need to invoke any creator if the Earth can be formed without one. Most recent estimates of the age of the Earth range between 4.6 - 4.8 billion years, and earliest signs of life (not true fossils, but organic, stromatolite-like layers) date back to 3.5 billion years. This would leave more than billion years for the first cells to evolve. I'm sorry I can't give any references, this is based on the course on evolutionary biochemistry I attended here. : >>dominion, it was no great feat for Satan to genetically engineer : >>diseases, both bacterial/viral and genetic. Although the forces of : >>natural selection tend to improve the survivability of species, the : >>degeneration of the genetic code tends to more than offset this. Again, do you _want_ this be true, or do you have any evidence for this supposed "degeneration"? I can understand Scott's reaction: : > Excuse me, but this is so far-fetched that I know you must be : > jesting. Do you know what pathogens are? Do you know what : > Point Mutations are? Do you know that EVERYTHING CAN COME : > ABOUT SPONTANEOUSLY?!!!!! : : In response to your last statement, no, and neither do you. : You may very well believe that and accept it as fact, but you : cannot *know* that. I hope you don't forget this: We have _evidence_ that suggests everything can come about spontaneously. Do you have evidence against this conclusion? In science, one does not have to _believe_ in anything. It is a healthy sign to doubt and disbelieve. But the right path to walk is to take a look at the evidence if you do so, and not to present one's own conclusions prior to this. Theology does not use this method. Therefore, I seriously doubt it could ever come to right conclusions. : >>Human DNA, being more "complex", tends to accumulate errors adversely : >>affecting our well-being and ability to fight off disease, while the : >>simpler DNA of bacteria and viruses tend to become more efficient in : >>causing infection and disease. It is a bad combination. Hence : >>we have newborns that suffer from genetic, viral, and bacterial : >>diseases/disorders. You are supposing a purpose, not a valid move. Bacteria and viruses do not exist to cause disease. They are just another manifests of a general principle of evolution - only replication saves replicators from degradiation. We are just an efficient method for our DNA to survive and replicate. The less efficient methods didn't make it to the present. And for the last time. Please present some evidence for your claim that human DNA is degrading through evolutionary processes. Some people have claimed that the opposite is true - we have suppressed our selection, and thus are bound to degrade. I haven't seen much evidence for either claim. : But then I ask, So? Where is this relevant to my discussion in : answering John's question of why? Why are there genetic diseases, : and why are there so many bacterial and viral diseases which require : babies to develop antibodies. Is it God's fault? (the original : question) -- I say no, it is not. Of course, nothing "evil" is god's fault. But your explanation does not work, it fails miserably. : You may be right. But the fact is that you don't know that : Satan is not responsible, and neither do I. : : Suppose that a powerful, evil being like Satan exists. Would it : be inconceivable that he might be responsible for many of the ills : that affect mankind? I don't think so. He could have done a much better Job. (Pun intended.) The problem is, it seems no Satan is necessary to explain any diseases, they are just as inevitable as any product of evolution. : Did I say that? Where? Seems to me like another bad inference. : Actually what you've done is to oversimplify what I said to the : point that your summary of my words takes on a new context. I : never said that people are "meant" (presumably by God) "to be : punished by getting diseases". Why I did say is that free moral : choices have attendent consequences. If mankind chooses to reject : God, as people have done since the beginning, then they should not : expect God to protect them from adverse events in an entropic : universe. I am not expecting this. If god exists, I expect him to leave us alone. I would also like to hear why do you believe your choices are indeed free. This is an interesting philosophical question, and the answer is not as clear-cut as it seems to be. What consequences would you expect from rejecting Allah? : Oh, I admit it's not perfect (yet). But I'm working on it. :) A good library or a bookstore is a good starting point. : What does this have to do with the price of tea in China, or the : question to which I provided an answer? Biology and Genetics are : fine subjects and important scientific endeavors. But they explain : *how* God created and set up life processes. They don't explain : the why behind creation, life, or its subsequent evolution. Why is there a "why behind"? And your proposition was something that is not supported by the evidence. This is why we recommend these books. Is there any need to invoke any why behind, a prime mover? Evidence for this? If the whole universe can come into existence without any intervention, as recent cosmological theories (Hawking et al) suggest, why do people still insist on this? : Thanks Scotty, for your fine and sagely advice. But I am : not highly motivated to learn all the nitty-gritty details : of biology and genetics, although I'm sure I'd find it a : fascinating subject. For I realize that the details do : not change the Big Picture, that God created life in the : beginning with the ability to change and adapt to its : environment. I'm sorry, but they do. There is no evidence for your big picture, and no need to create anything that is capable of adaptation. It can come into existence without a Supreme Being. Try reading P.W. Atkins' Creation Revisited (Freeman, 1992). Petri
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Having had limited tinea pedis for more than 30 years, and finding it resistant to ALL creams and powders I have tried, I wonder why dermatologists do not use lasers to destroy the fungus. It would seem likely to be effective and inexpensive. Are there good reasons for not using lasers? I was told that dermatology had not yet reached the laser age. John McKay vax2.concordia.ca
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[ Much deletion. He is trying to explain the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of Mary.] If this is true than why in the Genesis story is God concerned that Adam and Eve might also eat from the Tree of Life and live forever and be like gods? Eating of the tree of life would not take away the effects of eating of the Tree of Knowledge. Is there any reason to assume that they had already eaten of the Tree of Life and so had already attained to eternal life? If so, what basis is there for saying that this was taken away from them? To me the wages of sin are a spiritual death, not necessarily a physical death. I can attest to the truth of this interpretation from my own experience. I suspect that many others could attest to this as well. Peace Will ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Homeland? First Nagarno-Karabagh was Armenians homeland today Fizuli, Lacin and several villages (in Azerbadjan) are their homeland. Can't you see the the "Great Armenia" dream in this? With facist methods like killing, raping and bombing villages. The last move was the blast of a truck with 60 kurdish refugees, trying to escape the from Lacin, a city that was "given" to the Kurds by the Armenians. Don't speak about things you don't know: 8 American Cargo planes were heading to Armenia. When the Turkish authorities announced that they were going to search these cargo planes 3 of these planes returned to it's base in Germany. 5 of these planes were searched in Turkey. The content of of the other 3 planes? Not hard to guess, is it? It was sure not humanitarian aid..... Search Turkish planes? You don't know what you are talking about. Turkey's government has announced that it's giving weapons to Azerbadjan since Armenia started to attack Azerbadjan it self, not the Karabag province. So why search a plane for weapons since it's content is announced to be weapons?
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Hello. I have these items for sale. Terms are UPS COD or prepayment by money order. 2 101 keyboards for IBM compatibles 1 Mitsumi 1.2 MB 5 1/4 floppy disk drive 1 Sony SRF-M30 digital AM/FM Stereo Walkman The drive cost me $65, the keyboards were $40 each, and the Sony radio cost $45. I will sell for the best offers. Thank You.
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How about this description: "An object that is, at one time, both a Euclidean square and a Euclidean circle"? I hold that no object satisfying this description could exist. The description is inconsistent, and hence describes an object that could not exist. Now, suppose someone pointed to a bicycle, and said, "That object is, at one time, both a Euclidean square and a Euclidean circle." This does not mean that the bicycle does not exist, it measn that the description was incorrectly applied. The atheist says, "The descriptions of God that I have been presented with are contradictory, and hence describe something that cannot exist." Now, your position (so far as I can gather) is that God exists, but the descriptions atheists have been presented with are simply bad descriptions of It. This is roughly analogous to someone who has never seen a bicycle, and, when they ask for a description from people who claim to have seen one, are told that it is a "Euclidean circle-square". Can they be blamed for doubting rather strongly that this 'bicycle' exists at all? No kidding. :-> Sincerely, Ray Ingles [email protected]
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#Rick Anderson replied to my letter with... # #ra> In article <[email protected]>, #ra> (...) # Just briefly, on something that you mentioned in passing. You refer to # differing interpretations of "create," and say that many Christians may # not agree. So what? That is really irrelevant. We do not base our faith # on how many people think one way or another, do we? The bottom line is # truth, regardless of popularity of opinions. It may be "irrelevant" to you and *your* personal beliefs (or should I say "bias"?), but it is relevant to me and many others. You're right, "the bottom line IS truth," independant from you or anyone else. Since you proclaim "truths" as a self-proclaimed appointee, may I ask you by what authority you do this? Because "it says so in the Bible?" --Does the Bible "say so," or is it YOU, or someone else, who interprets whether a scripture or doctrine conforms to your particular liking or "disapproval"? Excuse moi, but your line of "truths" haven't moved me one bit to persuade me that my beliefs are erroneous. Of all the "preachers" of "truth" on this net, you have struck me as a self-righteous member of the wrecking crew, with no positive message to me or any other Latter-day Saint... BTW, this entire discussion reminds me a lot of the things said by Jesus to the pharisees: "ye hypocrite(s) . . . ye preach about me with your lips, but your hearts are far removed from me..." # Also, I find it rather strange that in trying to persuade that created # and eternally existent are equivalent, you say "granted the Mormon # belief..." You can't grant your conclusion and then expect the point to # have been addressed. In order to reply to the issue, you have to address # and answer the point that was raised, and not just jump to the # conclusion that you grant. Sophistry. Look who's talking: "jumping to conclusions?" You wouldn't do that yourself, right? All YOU address is your own convictions, regardless whether we come up with any Biblical scriptures which supports our points of view, because you reject such interpretations without any consideration whatsoever. # # The Bible states that Lucifer was created. The Bible states that Jesus # is the creator of all. The contradiction that we have is that the LDS # belief is that Jesus and Lucifer were the same. A beautiful example of disinformation and a deliberate misrepresentation of lds doctrine. The former KGB would have loved to employ you. Jesus and lucifer are not "the same," silly, and you know it. (...) # The Mormon belief is that all are children of God. Literally. There is # nothing symbolic about it. This however, contradicts what the Bible # says. The Bible teaches that not everyone is a child of God: Correction: it may contradict would YOU think the Bible says. The Bible indeed does teach that not all are children of God in the sense that they "belong to" or follow God in His footsteps. Satan and his followers have rebelled against God, and are not "children (=followers/redeemed) of God," but it doesn't mean that they were not once created by God, but chose to separate themselves from those who chose to follow God and His plan of salvation. # # The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the # kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked "one"; # (Matthew 13:38) kingdom are those who have remained valiant in their testimony of Jesus (and have shown "works of repentance, etc.), and the children of the wicked one are those who rebelled against God and the lamb. The issue of satan's spirit-origin (and of those who followed him) has not been addressed in this and other verses you copied from your Bible. You purposefully obscured the subject by swamping your "right" with non- related scriptures. (...lots of nice scriptures deleted (NOT Robert W. copyrighted) though...) #ra> > We are told that, "And this is life eternal, that they might know #ra> > thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." #ra> > (John 17:3). Life eternal is to know the only true God. Yet the #ra> > doctrines of the LDS that I have mentioned portray a vastly #ra> > different Jesus, a Jesus that cannot be reconciled with the Jesus of #ra> > the Bible. They are so far removed from each other that to proclaim Correction: "my" Jesus is indeed different than your Jesus, and CAN be reconciled with the Jesus in the Bible. --Not your interpretation of Him, I concur, but I honestly couldn't care less. #ra> > one as being true denies the other from being true. According to the #ra> > Bible, eternal life is dependent on knowing the only true God, and #ra> > not the construct of imagination. In this single posting of yours, I've seen more "constructs of imagination" than in all of the pro-lds mails combined I have read so far in this news group. First get your lds-facts straight before you dare preaching to us about "the only true God," whom you interpret according to your own likes and dislikes, but whose image I cannot reconcile with what I know about Him myself. I guess your grandiose self-image does not allow for other faiths, believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ, but in a different way or fashion than your own. Not that it really matters, the mission and progress of the lds church will go on, boldly and nobly, and no mob or opponent can stop the work from progressing, until it has visited every continent, swept every clime, and sounded in every ear. # This is really a red herring. It doesn't address any issue raised, but # rather, it seeks to obfuscate. The fact that some groups try to read # something into the Bible, doesn't change what the Bible teaches. Sigh. "What the Bible teaches"? Or: "what the bible teaches according to Robert Weiss and co.?" I respect the former, I reject the latter without the remotest feeling that I have rejected Jesus. On the contrary. And by the way, I do respect your interpretations of the Bible, I even grant you being a Christian (following your own image of Him), as much as I am a Christian (following my own image of Him in my heart). (...) # Most of the other replies have instead hop-scotched to the issue of # Bruce McConkie and whether his views were 'official doctrine.' I don't # think that it matters if McConkie's views were canon. That is not the # issue. Were McConkie's writings indicative of Mormon belief on this # subject is the real issue. The indication from Rick is that they may # certainly be. The issue is, of course, that you love to use anything to either mis- represent or ridicule the lds church. The issue of "official doctrine" is obviously very important. McConkie's views have been controversial (e.g. "The Seven Deadly Heresies" has made me a heretic! ;-) at best, or erroneous at worst ("blacks not to receive the priesthood in this dispensation"). I respect him as someone who has made his valuable contribution to the church, but I personally do NOT rely on his personal interpretations (his book "Mormon Doctrine" is oftentimes referred to as "McConkie's Bible" in mormon circles) on mormon doctrine. I rather look to official (doctrinal) sources, and... to Hugh Nibley's books! (The last comment is an lds-insider reference.) Summarizing: McConkie was a wise man who contributed undoubtedly far more to the kingdom of God than I have, but whose views are by no means dogma or accepted doctrine, some of it clearly belongs to personal interpretation and speculation. But having said this, I find McConkie (even in his most biased and speculative moments) far more thought-provoking than the trash coming from your proverbial pen. I'm somewhat appalled that I have allowed myself to sink as low as you in this posting... ============================= Robert Weiss [email protected]
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[stuff deleted] Really? How do you avoid situations which encourage criminals? I'd really like to know. Would you, say, prohibit female college students from riding their bicycles near the university during the daytime? Sounds a bit drastic, doesn't it? Especially when the university is locatd in a nice residential area. A friend of mine was attacked and nearly raped in just this situation. The police didn't feel she was in a situation which 'encouraged criminals'. What do you think? Should we just tell her, that it was her fault for daring to ride a bicycle in the middle of the day? That she didn't avoid a situation that encouraged criminals? If that's the case, then we'd all better put bars on our doors and windows and pray for a police state to keep us all safe. Crime happens in all situations - there are no defined areas that criminals avoid.
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... Of course you never read Arab media, I read Arab, ISRAELI (Jer. Post, and this network is more than enough) and Western (American, French, and British) reports and I can say that if we give Israel -10 and Arabs +10 on the bias scale (of course you can switch the polarities) Israeli newspapers will get either a -9 or -10, American leading newspapers and TV news range from -6 to -10 (yes there are some that are more Israelis than Israelis) The Montreal suburban (a local free newspaper) probably is closer to Kahane's views than some Israeli right wing newspapers, British range from 0 (neutral) to -10, French (that Iknow of, of course) range from +2 (Afro-french magazines) to -10, Arab official media range from 0 to -5 (Egyptian) to +9 in SA. Why no +10? Because they do not want to overdo it and stir people against Israel and therefore against them since they are doing nothing. the average bias of what you read would be probably around -9, while that of the average American would be the same if they do not read or read the new-york times and similar News-makers, and -8 if they read some other RELATIVELY less biased newspapers.
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Check out the May issue of MacWorld; the new servers are on the cover. Should be at your favorite newstand.
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Is it appropriate for the Lord not to reveal certain things before the world (i.e., publish them widely)? These things sacred to Himself. He may place any pre- or post-conditions He feels are necessary. Moreover, there are precedents in scripture where knowledge of sacred things is withheld: 1. After the Transfiguration Jesus instructed Peter, James, and John to "tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead" (Matt. 17:9). If we were living at the time of Savior, there would be no (public) record of this event. 2. A faithful friend of Paul experiences a vision of "paradise" when he "heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter" (2 Cor. 12:4). This person heard something which Paul can not write to the Corinthians (and us). 3. There is an incident recorded in the Book of Mormon where words uttered by "babes" were "forbidden that there should not any man write them (3 Nephi 26:16, the entire text follows for those of you without access to the BOM). 3 Nephi 26:16 Behold, it came to pass on the morrow that the multitude gathered themselves together, and they both saw and heard these children; yea, even babes did open their mouths and utter marvelous things; and the things which they did utter were forbidden that there should not any man write them. Some LDS scholars speculate that these words which could not be written are the sacred portions from temple we are to withhold from the world (but it could be something else). There is much we can discuss about the temple ordinances. We can discuss regarding baptisms and other vicarious ordinances for the dead. We can discuss certain concepts regarding the endowment ("the ritual"). However, there are certain elements I can not discuss with anyone (including other saints) outside of the temple. As a portion of the endowment, we receive the tokens and signs that will permit us access to Heaven. I must keep this knowledge sacred and respect the conditions under which it is revealed to me.
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New England Area Major Flea Market *** DATES *** 1993 P 1 of 2 All events are Ham Radio/ Electronic related except ~_____~ ******************************************************************************* 1993 Contact Source ******************************************************************************* 3 April Upper Saddle River NJ CRRC 9-3 sell @8 Jack W2EHD 201 768 8360 D 4 April Southington CT SARA @HS $20@6:3 $10@8:3 $3@9 N1GCV 203 621 6191 F 17 April Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@8 $1@9 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 18 April Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv $35 for season pass 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 18 April Webster MA ECARA @ Pt Breeze Rest $3 tables $10 Gary 203 974 2564 F 18 April Agawam MA HCRA @ Southwick Rec Ctr $3@9A Bob W1ZGP 203 653 0715 F 23,24,25 April Dayton OH adm $11 sell $30/50++ evenings 513 767 1107 F 2 May Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 A 7-8 May Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG ex13 off rt 16 $5 noon fri WA1IVB sase 15 May N Smithfield RI RIFMRS @VFW Main St 8A Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507 16 May Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 16 May Pittsfield MA @Taconic HS Sell $5@7 Buy $2@8 Cliff W1SJV 413 743 3334 21-22-23 May Rochester NY ARRL-NY Conv @ Monroe FG Harold K2HC 800 724 8515 F 5 June S Burlington VT Mitch WB2JSJ 802 879 6589 6 June Newington CT @HS Flea Les KA1KRP 203 523 0453 12 June Bangor ME Pine St ARC @Hermon ES 146.34/94 8AM-$2 Roger 207 848 3846 20 June Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 17 July Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@8 $1@9 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 17 July Union ME @ Fairground $3@7AM State Conv Skeet KA1LPW 207 622 2915 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 3-29-93 de W1GSL P 1 of 2 ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet [email protected] US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 SASE for updated copy as issued. 1993 Contact Source ******************************************************************************* 18 July Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 24 July Manchester NH NHARA @HI 8A$4 NE DC 300Ts (no TG) WB1HBB 603 432 6011 F 8 Aug White Planes NY WECAfest Sarah N2EYX 914 962 9666 D 8 Aug Wellseley MA WARS+BARS @Babson College Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 T 14 Aug St Albans ME @ Snow Mobile Club Hitch K1HHC 207 796 2282 15 Aug Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 29 Aug Fall River MA BCRA Tom WA1LBK 508 674 4163 T+ 11 Sept Windsor ME @ Fairground $3@7AM Skeet KA1LPW 207 622 2915 12 Sept Gaithersburg MD FAR @Mg Cty FG $5@6A- $7TG Nancy Drahim 703 691 0078 J 12 Sept S Dartmouth MA SE Mass ARA 8A- Dan N1HCV 508 933 0678 + 19 Sept Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 19 Sept Sandy Hook CT Candlewood ARA Harold KB1US A 25 Sept Greenbush ME WCSN/BARC @WCSN xmtr Ed Cockburn 207 732 4366 26 Sept Framingham MA @ HS $12@8 $5@9 $2@10 Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 F 26 Sept Yonkers NY Metro 70 ARC Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 A 15,16 Oct Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG ex13 off rt 16 $5 noon fri K1RQG 17 Oct Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 13 Nov Plymouth MA Mayflower RC @Mem Hall 9-3 sell@8 Jim NM1F 508 747 2224
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What's "loosing?" I vote. I don't consider RKBA an abomination. I'm sure Sarah Brady would be delighted to hear your ranting and raving. However, Clinton has not publically stated that he would like to repeal the Second Amendment. "Tough titty" to you. Are we going to "make do without" like the people in New York City? You know New York City: That gun ban utopia you dream about, with the millions of unregistered handguns? New York City, by the way, has a very high crime rate. Perhaps you should know about a gungrabber's nightmare - Idaho. Here in Idaho, the police give concealed carry permits to anyone over 21 without a criminal record. There are no gungrabber schemes such as FOIDs, waiting periods, "gun a month," or LTCs. And horror of horrors! You don't even NEED a permit to carry a concealed weapon while outside of city limits (although you do need a permit for concealed carry in an automobile). I feel a hell of a lot safer in Boise than I would in your gun ban dream state (e.g., Washington, D.C.). The voting public in Idaho is staunchly pro-gun. Both senators are NRA-endorsed "A" rated! Buy a clue, pal. Get out your wallet and buy another clue. There are millions upon MILLIONS of pre-1968 (i.e., non-4473'ed) firearms out there. They have a half-life approaching eternity. And cosmoline is not exactly tracked by the feds. Gun control laws were passed to PROTECT the KKK from blacks! Drew
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My, this distinction seems quite arbitrary. Blessed is the man whose iniquities are forgiven, whose sin is covered. (Ps. 32:1). and quoted by the apostle Paul: Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. (Rom. 4:6-8) The biblical perspective seems to be that foregiveness and covering are parallel/equivalent concepts in both testaments. The dispensational distinction is unwarranted. I'm sure Rex has Scripture to back this up. You're suggesting Jesus is going to travel around dealing with individual violations of His law -- for millions perhaps billions of people. Such activity for Moses the lawgiver was considered unwise (cf. Ex. 18:13ff). It makes for interesting speculation, though. I'll leave comments on the so-called "bema seat" vs. "throne" judgments to someone else. This also seems like more unnecessary divisions ala dispensationalism.
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[Common complaints about MS Windows deleted...] Hmmmm, why do I get the feeling that this is gonna start one of those endless threads 'Mac Vs Win" and might even end up as "OS/2 Vs Win". Well, I dont know if Windows is a mature OS, if I have seen one (in which case that has to be X-Windows :) ), but dont be so quick to judge... First of all to try to use plain vanilla Windows is as courageous as to try to use plain vanilla DOS. There are _lots_ of very nice commercial and shareware packages/utilities that will boost up Windows past what MS itself thought possible :)... For example, Norton Desktop for Windows 2.0 (a replace- ment for ProgMan) will give you group-within-a-group capability and will even change group icons, it will launch progs by association (well, FileMan does that too) or by dragging the file in the apps icon (now Mac doesnt do that, huh? :) )... And the list goes on and on... Now, Windows _is_ kinda hard to finetune, boost and configure, but thats trhe price to pay for not paying $$$ to get a Mac or an OS/2 capable machine (an entirely differet story ...)... On the other hand if you dont like the idea of PM's icons not correspnding to the files themselves, well they are not supposed to :).. PM is a Program _Launching_ utility not a file manager... Modify your settings to have FM as your shell and not PM, or get a couple of utilities from cica that supposedly give you a 'Mac feel'... I dont wanna get in the discussion which is a better system: Mac's are good in their own way -- they are _different_ not better or worse than Win PCs-- (actually I am writing this from a Mac lab as a user assistant - so dont think I am partial to Win:) ) By all means check out the stuff in cica (ftp to ftp.cica.indiana.edu under the pub/pc/win3 subdir user: anonymous), or wait for StarTrek (Mac's OS on a PC !!! -- the threads we are gonna have then !!! :) )... Just trying to avoid another Mac-Win war...
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No, you don't understand. I said that I don't think people can discuss the subjective merits of religion objectively. This should be obvious. People here have said that everyone would be better off without religion, but this almost certainly isn't true. But, guns and axes are tools, both of which have been used for murder. Should both be taken away? That is to say, I don't think motto misuse warrants its removal. At least not in this case.
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Is there a PD version of cfb, or other PD server stuff, which has a colour frame buffer implementation which works in bitplaned mode, i.e. where the screen memory is grouped so that "bit 0 of every pixel is here, bit 1 is there, etc." The only such beast I know if at the moment is the GfxBase server for the Commodore Amiga, and it is commercial. I don't know if they wrote their own cfb, but I suspect they did. Please respond by email, as I don't read this group. Many thanks Dave
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could convenient then and called Global earth. get meters (on Thought it means Global Positioning System. There are two precision levels, one for army applications (killing has to be very accurate today) and one for civil ones. The civil precision is about 20 to 30m (correct me, if I'm wrong), though, it may be insufficiant for mapping buildings. But there is a way with an additional reference point (e.g. one fixed GPS system in a house) to get the same high precision as the military version, but it gets pretty complicated then. If You use a microwave system (actually this means some type of radar), You need quite a lot of number crunching to get accurate vectorized data out of Your original signals. So the GPS system seems to be the better (and running) idea for Your application(there have been discussions in this newsgroup, don't know of an address anymore). Cheers Robert (HB9NBY)
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Am I the only person who thinks the Reds sleeveless uniforms are ugly? Yet another reason why they won't win the NL West! ;) ------------------------------------------------------- Eric Roush fierkelab@ bchm.biochem.duke.edu "I am a Marxist, of the Groucho sort" Grafitti, Paris, 1968 TANSTAAFL! (although the Internet comes close.)
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Hi all, I've been locked in a small closet chained to a lab bench for the last week or two without access to really important information. I saw the 3.5 million shoulder back on the DL--How long is he out for (i.e. How many millions/inning will he get this year?) Nothing personal against Higuera mind you, just wondering how Bud can keep coffing up money for him when he lets current big producers go over a relative pittance. (Please realize the term "relative pittance" can only be used with sarcasm when discussing baseball salaries.) Additional questions: I did'nt get to see Bones pitch this spring--how is he looking and where is he going to fit in the rotation? How is Surhoff shaping up defensively at third? Are they going to build a new stadium? When?
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I just gotta ask... What ARE these questions you want to ask an active cop? Working on your DoD qualfications? B-) ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----
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You ask where we are. I would echo that question. I'm not trying to be contentious. But assuming that the Pope has universal jurisdiction and authority, what authority do you rely upon for your decisions? What prevents me from choosing ANY doctrine I like and saying that Papal disagreement is an error that will be resolved in time? This is especially true, since Councils of Bishops have basically stood by the Pope. It appears that much of what lies at the heart of this matter is disagreements over what is tradition and Tradition, and also over authority and discipline. My question to the supporters of SSPX is this: Is there ANY way that your positions with respect to church reforms could change and be conformed to those of the Pope? (assuming that the Pope's position does not change and that the leaders of SSPX don't jointly make such choice.) If not, this appears to be claiming infallible teaching authority. If I adopt the view that "I'm NOT wrong, I CAN'T be wrong, and there's NO WAY I'll change my mind, YOU must change yours", that I've either left the Catholic Church or it has left me. The Orthodox Church does not recognize papal authority/jurisdiction viewing authority as present in each bishop, and in Ecumenical Councils. We regard the subsequent development of the doctrines regarding papal authority and jurisdiction to be a separation of the Bishop of Rome from the Orthodox church. Without going into the merits of the Great Schism, at least the Orthodox agree that a split occurred, and don't paly what appear to be semantic games like "He's the Pope, but we don't recognize that what he does is effective...". Words aside, it appears to be a de facto split. We sould argue from now until the Second Coming about what the "real" traditional teaching of the Church is. If this were a simple matter East and West would not have been separated for over 900 years. I thought that the teaching magisterieum of the church did not allow error in teachings regarding faith and morals even in the short term.` I may be wrong here, I'm not Roman Catholic. :-) What would be the effect of a Pope making an ex cathedra statement regarding the SSPX situation? Would it be honored? If not, how do you get around the formal doctrine of infallibility? Again, I'm not trying to be contentions, I'm trying to understand. Since I'm Orthodox, I've got no real vested interest in the outcome, one way or the other. It does if the command was legitimate. SSPX does not view the Pope's commands as legitimate. Why? This is a VERY slippery slope. True enough. One could argue that they are establishing a non-geographic jurisdiction. I don't know if that's even a concept or problem in Catholic circles. Larry Overacker ([email protected]) --
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This will be the first of monthly postings of the newsletter of the Long Island Chapter of the Transplant Recipients International Organization (TRIO). Unfortunately, I was unable to post it before the date of this month's meeting. I'm posting it anyway, and posting it world-wide instead of regional, in the hopes that some of the information may be useful or illustrative. Also, I hope it can be used as an example and inspiration for the posting of other newsletters and data related to organ transplantation and donation. Mike Transplant Recipients International Organization Long Island Chapter P.O. Box 922 Huntington, NY 11743-0922 NEWSLETTER 516/421-3258 APRIL 1993 VOLUME IV No. 8 NEXT MEETING The next meeting is WEDNESDAY APRIL 14 at 8 pm at the Knights of Columbus Emerald Manor, 517 Uniondale Avenue in Uniondale. Our guest speaker will be Dr. Lewis Teperman. Dr. Teperman trained in Pittsburgh under Dr. Starzl and is now the Assistant Director of the Liver Transplant Program at New York University Medical Center. Dr. Teperman will discuss current trends in transplantation and treatment and will answer questions. He is a long time friend of TRIO, surgeon to many of our members, and always a gracious and delightful guest. It is sure to be a very informative, interesting and engaging evening. Our hospitality committee, Bette and Vito Suglia and Jim Spence will be well prepared, and at last the weather should be cooperative. We hope to see a very large gathering to welcome Dr. Teperman. WEDNESDAY APRIL 14 K of C UNIONDALE LAST MEETING It has been noted here before that the Long Island Chapter of TRIO has extraordinary power in predicting bad weather, being able to forecast rain, sleet and snow fully a month in advance. No TV weatherman can match us. This time we not only scored again, but we were also able to disable the Long Island Railroad, making travel REALLY difficult. None the less, many braved the snow and we had an interesting meeting and good conversation. Our scheduled speaker, Mrs. Elizabeth Linnehan, a professional nutritionist, had a family emergency and was not able to attend. She hope she will be with us in the fall to discuss diet and medications. However, Ms. Jennifer Friedman, an image consultant and sister of a liver transplant recipient was kind enough to step in on very short notice. Ms. Friedman gave us a lot of good advice about choosing clothes and makeup, (even a bit for men) to help us look well and healthy and to minimize some of the cosmetic effects of some of the medicine and drugs we take. We are most grateful to Jennifer and thank her for an entertaining evening. ANNUAL MEETING In addition to welcoming Dr. Teperman, the April meeting is also the Annual meeting of the Chapter. This is the official notice of the meeting as required by our By-Laws. The main purpose of the meeting is to review the past year, solicit member views and ideas for better ways to meet their needs, and to elect members of the Board of Directors for the coming two year term. The nominating committee has prepared the following slate for the Board. Anne (Liver Recipient) and Don Treffeisen Robert (Heart Recipient) and Eulene Smith Vito (Kidney Recipient) and Bette Suglia Kay Grenzig (Liver Recipient) Jan Schichtel (Kidney Recipient) Larry Juliano (Kidney Recipient) David Bekofsky (Director Public Education LITP) Those remaining on the Board for another year are: Robert Carroll (Liver, Kidney & Pancreas Recipient) Jerry (Kidney Recipient) and Jeanne Eichhorn Ron (Kidney Donor) and Marie Healy Peter Smith (Bone Marrow Recipient) Patricia Ann Yankus (Kidney and Pancreas Recipient) Walter Ruzak (Kidney Recipient) This may seem to be a big Board, but many hands make light work and with our various medical uncertainties, it is good to have backups for all the jobs on the Board. Therefore, in addition to the slate being presented for voting, nominations will also be accepted from the floor. There is no set number of Board members and there is plenty of work. In addition, brief treasurer's and membership reports will be given and the floor will be open for any new business, suggestions, or comments anyone would like to bring up. We will keep the formal meeting short so that we can spend the majority of the time with Dr. Teperman. FUTURE MEETINGS Remember the scheduled guests for the rest of the year. May 12 Dr. Peter Shaprio, Chief of Psychiatry Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center June 9 Dr. Felix Rappaport, Director of the Stony Brook Kidney Transplant Program. Plan on being with us the second Wednesday of each month. NOTDAW The week of April 18-24 is National Organ and Tissue Donor Awareness Week. NOTDAW. While we are planning news releases, speaking engagements and meetings with Supervisors Gullata and Gaffney, we have decided not to have our softball game because of two year's experience with miserable weather. We all can help spread the word on donor awareness, however. We have found it effective to ask your pastor, or rabbi to publish a letter or announcement in the parish bulletin, allow you to address the congregation, or include mention of the gift of life in his sermon. Attached to this Newsletter is a sample letter and fact sheet you can use. Thank you. DR. STARZL TO BE HONORED The Long Island Chapter of the American Liver Foundation will hold its annual Auction and Dinner Dance on May 7th at the Fountainbleu on Jericho Turnpike in Jericho. Dr. Thomas Starzl will be the honored guest. Tickets are $50 person and are going fast. If you'd like to meet Dr. Starzl, call Anne Treffeisen at (516) 421-3258 for details. MEMBERSHIP NEWS Congratulations to Al Reese. Al received his heart transplant in Pittsburgh after waiting 3 1/2 years. He is home and doing well after only 12 days in hospital. Arthur Michaels, liver recipient, is planning to run the Boston Marathon in April. What fantastic proof that transplantation works! We hope the national press notices. Bob McCormack, after a persistent bout with infection, had his transplanted kidney removed. He is home now, back on dialysis and feeling better. Nicole Healy, kidney recipient and daughter of Ron and Marie, spent the past several weeks in hospital in Miami with problems encountered on vacation. Marie has been with her in Florida. They are back in New York where Nicole's treatment will continue. We wish Nicole a speedy recovery. Kay Grenzig, liver recipient, is mending now after a bad fall that resulted in a broken arm and a broken leg. Kay is a candidate for the Board so we need her well soon. And best wishes to all coming out of the flu. It was a tough winter for many, but the tulips are just under the snow.
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The "so sacred it's secret" explanation is a bit misleading. While there is a profound reverence for the temple endowment, there is no injunction against discussing the ceremony itself in public. But since public discussion is often irreverent, most Mormons would rather keep silent than have a cherished practice maligned. But there are certain elements of the ceremony which participants explicitly covenant not to reveal except in conjunction with the ceremony itself. There are other interpretations to Christian history in this matter. One must recall that most of what we know about the Gnostics was written by their enemies. Eusebius claims that Jesus imparted secret information to Peter, James, and John after His resurrection, and that those apostles transmitted that information to the rest of the Twelve (Eusebius, _Historia Ecclesiastica_ II 1:3-4). Irenaeus claims this information was passed on to the priests and bishops (_Against Heresies_ IV 33:8), but Eusebius disagrees. He claims the secret ceremonies of the Christian church perished with the apostles. Interestingly enough, Eusebius refers to the groups which we today call Gnostics as promulgators of a false gnosis (Eusebius, op. cit., III, 32:7-8). His gripe was not that thay professed *a* gnosis, but that they had the *wrong* one. Writings dealing with Jesus' post-resurrection teachings emphasize secrecy -- not so much a concealment as a policy of not teaching certain things indiscriminately. In one story, Simon Magus opens a dialog with Peter on the nature of God. Peter's response is "You seem to me not to know what a father and a God is: But I could tell you both whence souls are, and when and how they were made; but it is not permitted to me now to disclose these things to you" (_Clementine Recognitions_ II, 60). If any one theme underlies the _Recognitions_ it is the idea that certain doctrines are not to be idly taught, but can be had after a certain level of spiritual maturity is reached. Now one can approach this and other such evidence in many ways. I don't intend that everyone interpret Christian history as I do, but I believe that evidence exists (favorably interpreted, of course) of early Christian rites analogous to those practiced by Mormons today. But if Judaism and Christianity had such ceremonies, would you expect to read about them in public documents? One can search the Book of Mormon and other Mormon scripture and find almost no information on temple worship. Yes, you could establish that Mormons worship in temples, but you would probably be hard pressed to characterize that worship. On that basis, can we conclude that the Bible explains *all* practices which might have taken place, and that absence of such descriptions proves they did not exist? Mormon scholar Dr. Hugh Nibley offers us a list of scriptures from which I have taken a few: 1. "It is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given" (Matt. 13:11). 2. "All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given" (Matt. 19:11). 3. "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now" (John 16:12). 4. "The time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father" (John 16:25). 5. "... unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter" (1 Cor. 3:1-2). 6. "Many things ... I would not write with paper and ink; but I ... come unto you and speak face to face" (2 Jn. 1:12). (Nibley, _Since Cumorah_, pp. 92-94) Again, these can also be interpreted many different ways. I believe they serve to show that not all doctrines which could have been taught were actually taught openly. Historically, Joseph Smith had been adiministering the temple endowment ceremony for nearly a year before joining the Freemasons. There is diary evidence which supports a claim that the rite did not change after Smith became a Mason. It can be argued that Smith had ample exposure to Masonic proceedings through the burlesque of his time and through his brother Hyrum (a Mason), though no specific connection has yet been established. My conversations with Masons (with respect to temple rite transcriptions which have appeared on the net) have led me to believe that the connection from Masonry to Mormonism is fairly tenuous. As our moderator notes, most of what was similar was removed in the recent revisions to the temple ceremony. I believe that critics who charge that Mormon rites were lifted from Freemasonry do not have adequate knowledge of the rites in question. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jay Windley * University of Utah * Salt Lake City [email protected]
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Has anyone used the Number Nine (# 9) Video Graphics adaptor with Windows or Windows NT? What do you think???
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Well, the fact of the matter is that poverty is imperfectly related to social and political instability, while economic inequality is much more strongly related. In virtually all major revolutions including England (the Puritan revolution), France, Russia and China, the revolutions occurred as economies were undergoing substantial long term growth and poverty was declining. What sets off revolutions is massive inequality coupled with a perception on the part of those at the bottom that social change is possible. If "poverty (were) the main engine of social instability," this typical historical pattern would not hold. In fact, revolutions would have been far more typical before the nineteenth century than since that time. [Much deleted...] Sorry, buddy, but some other "blowhards" managed to include the "general welfare" in another portion of the constitution. Article I Section 8: "The Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes...to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and GENERAL WELFARE of the United States..." I guess they wanted to make sure everyone understood they meant what they said in the preamble. But as noted above, the constitution doesn't say that, does it? But since it explicitly includes both the general welfare and defense in Article I, Section 8, I guess you'll grant that botha are constitutional functions. Right? jsh
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Flights of fancy, and other irrational approaches, are common. The crucial thing is not to sit around just having fantasies; they aren't of any use unless they make you do some experiments. I've known a lot of scientists whose fantasies lead them on to creative work; usually they won't admit out loud what the fantasy was, prior to the consumption of a few beers. (Simple example: Warren Jelinek noticed an extremely heavy band on a DNA electrophoresis gel of human ALU fragments. He got very excited, hoping that he'd seen some essential part of the control mechanism for eukaryotic genes. This fantasy led him to sequence samples of the band and carry out binding assays. The result was a well-conserved, 400 or so bp, sequence that occurs about 500,000 times in the human genome. Unfortunately for Warren's fantasy, it turns out to be a transposon that is present in so many copies because it replicates itself and copies itself back into the genome. On the other hand, the characteristics of transposons were much elucidated; the necessity of a cellular reverse transcriptase was recognized; and the standard method of recognizing human DNA was created. Other species have different sets of transposons. Fortunately for me, Warren and I used to eat dinner at T.G.I. Fridays all the time.) I'm not sure that it's random. But there is no known rational mechanism for generating a rich set of interesting hypotheses. If you are really working in an unknown area, it is unlikely that you will have much sense of what might or might not be true; under those circumstances, the best thing to do is just follow whatever instincts you have. If they are wrong, you will find out soon enough; but at least, you will find out _something_. If you try to do experiments at random, with no prior conceptions at all in mind, you will probably get nowhere. Unfortunately, the critical function does sometimes become hostage to non-rational forces. Then we get varieties of pathological science: Lysenko, Mirsky's opposition to DNA-as-gene, cold fusion, and so forth. I don't agree that this follows. In fact, this is _exactly_ the point at which I disagree with Feyerabend. It is a most important part of the culture of science that one keeps one's jealousies out of the refereeing process. Failures there are aplenty, but, on the whole, things work out. Another point: there are a couple of senses of the phrase ``experimental design''. I'd say that the less rational part is in experimental _choice_, not design. Alexander Fleming (Proc. Royal Soc., 1922) chose to look for bacteriophage in his own mucus for strange reasons (Phage had previously been found in locust diarrhea; Fleming probably thought runny bottom, runny nose, what the hell, it's worth a try.) but his method of looking for phage was well-designed to detect anything phage-like; in fact, he found lysozyme. It is not clear to me what you mean by rational vs. irrational. Perhaps you can give a few examples of surprising experiments that were tried out for perfectly rational reasons, or interesting new theories that were first advanced from logical grounds. The main examples I can think of are from modern high-energy physics which is not typical of science as a whole.
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Concerning Christians praying for coporate forgiveness of national sins, Michael Covington claims the following of C.S. Lewis: <>< I was surprised when I heard this same kind of remark from a fellow grad. student I know, especially since he had seminary training. I have read the same essay and do not find Lewis making any such claim. Rather, Lewis is condemning the use of such coporate prayer efforts as platforms to make political jabs at opponents, feigned as confessions of guilt (ie., Lord please forgive us for allowing "insert political issue/idea/platform" to exist in our country, it is wrong and we ask your forgiveness.). I would be interested in knowing what part of the essay you feel condemns national repentance (please quote).
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I am looking for a copy of the following Siggraph publication: Gomez, J.E. "Comments on Event Driven Annimation," Siggraph Course Notes, 10, 1987. If anyone knows of a location where I can obtain a copy of these notes, I would appreciate if they could let me know. Thanks.
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Here in Nanaimo (on Vancouver Island, for you furriners out there) we got the ABC coverage on KOMO. It probably depends on your cable company. I started off switching between the CBC and ABC broadcasts, but finally settled on ABC. I can't stand Don Whitman, and Al Michaels was doing a decent job. He followed the play pretty well, knew all the players' names, and only made a couple of "rookie" mistakes that I noticed. One thing that surprised me is that they never once attempted to explain the offside rule. Am-I-paranoid-or-is-this-really-happening department: There were no fights in the game, but there were a couple of occasions where it looked like a fight was about to start. Both times ABC cut away to show a closeup of a coach or McNall or something. Has ABC decided to adopt the "Spicer policy?"
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Thanks for posting this and making it available. This post will be LONG, I will comment on most of it, and am reluctantly leaving all of the original in place to provide context. Please note that an alt. group has been set up for the Clipper stuff. ^^^^^^^^^ Hum, AT&T, VLSI and Mykotronx are 'industry'? Wonder what happened to IBM, this should be right up their street. And a mandateed scheme is voluntary? Mr Orwell would love this. ^^^^^^^^^ Telephone encryption and scrambleing are years behind digital ones like RSA, IDEA, or even DES. The above, while literaly true, is a clasic straw-man claim in the context of non-real-time circuits such as E-mail and the like. I would modestly propose that a mandated use of ISDN would do more for commun- ications than this lot. Normmaly DES. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Note the use of the word "business" in the above. The whole tenor of this release seems to be establishing a ground rule that only "business" use is legitimate for debate. If you want the nothings you drop in your wife's ear to remain secret and private, that is not even on the agenda for debate. Note that there is NO role for you to contain private info in this. The only reference is to information already in the hands of others. The 'unauthorized release' bit is also drawing a long bow. Most of these cases are by people who have legitimate access abusing it, and revealing, or often selling the info. These people are, of course, in this proposal, the people who will have the keys. The criminals also use lawers, courts, the CIA, white-house officials and pens to go about their business. When will they be outlawed as well? Yeah, several of them would be a better idea than CLipper! Them again, the protections of law and the courts have been seriously erroded over the last decade ofr so. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NSA Yeah, this bit is VERY true. Note the repeated mixing of telephone scrabeling and encryption. A demo of the above claim on an ordanary POTS would be a good nights entertainment I suspect. Note also the 'many'. not 'all', as the general tone implies. ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The case record seems to indicate that what is needed is a brutal tightening of the current abuses. I have not heard, yet, of a case that was impeaded by the use of secure encryption by the men in black. The other side, abuse by law enforcers is well documented, even by govt agencies. And the phone vs other coms is blurred yet again. Lets run that line twice. Not **VERY** carefully what it says. The stated purpose of the key eschrow is to make the use of Clipper compulsory. Note the word "ensure". As to 'protect', or 'law-abiding', I will leave to you. So to the person who asked if it included the outlawing of other encryptions, the answer in this press release is, YES. Just as they only can wiretap now with a warrent. Just makes sure that the illegal ones are preserved. Where do you find many experts. Any ex KGB people looking for a contract? :-) And as a later posting asks, what of the STU-IIIs they already have. It will be very interesting to see if the military and US embasies start to use it. After all, it is secure, isn't it. The govt will answer that point by its own actions. ^^^^^^^^ Again, personal use seems to be a unaskable question. ^^^^^ Ah, so warrents are not always needed it seems. The ITARs seem to slightly impeed this. Note that all this wonderfull stuff will be in secret. Only the 'proper people' will be able to express an opinion, hence only the desired result will emerge. Encryption and codes have been around for millenia. They are generaly in equilibrium with the technology of the time. The systematic study of cyphers has resulted in a swing in favor of the encrypter, AT THE MOMENT. I have no doubt that the factoring problem will fall in time. Probably fofr practical purposes by the middle of the next century. It is a little hard to critisise a non-proposal. Note we drop back to 'phone-mode' again. If this is a true answer, it can be rephrased as " It sucks big time. Anyone who can drive the crypt work-bench will use it for light amusement before breakfast." This link between the security of the key-eschrow, and the actual algorithm is a real winner. Given that I have 2 secret 40 bit numbers, could someone please explain how the details of an encryption algorithm will reveal them? Just make sure you read the CVs REAL carfully, OK. Quick, with out looking back, What name is missing from that list? The people who agree with us and who think there is a buck in it for them. The reverse engineering provisions of the 'Mask-work' act could be relevent here. You don't. Not unless you are one of the 'right people'. They missed the word secret here. He needs a grammar lesson too. I would say "less secure, less conveniant, more expensive ( PGP is free ), less available, and more prone to being comprimised" Proofs to the contarary will be welcome. Note PROOF. They don't seem to be saying anything that makes much sense. And this proposal DOES prohibit it except in a very limited way. And, this is the one explicit reference to personal rights. It is a denial. And yes, I don't think that the Mexicans, Brazilians, and Canucks are included in Clinton et als magnanamous gesture. The 'false tension' is false. The balance is between two repugnant points. The RIGHT to privacy is hand-waved to non-existance by putting it behind the "false assessment". It is assumed that the removal of the right to take what ever steps YOU deem suitable to protect YOUR privacy is non negotiable, hence is defined in the govenment language to be non-existant. If you don't agree, you must be a criminal, as only criminals don't agree with out laws. Also note the non- question. "If what is here was not possible..." It indicates we know that Bush dropped the ball in squashing that nasty < insert suitable retoric > and will stamp out this disorderly, unruley outbreak of freedom and ultra-national sentiment. This one is a real giggle. In Australia or France, they will have to reveal the keys, and the algorithm. Don't think it's at the top of my list of things I must have, so the restrictions will protect me from saleks trying to sell me a bill of crock. Any for any others using it, they must be nuts! Good luck folks.
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hello there ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the Yamaha v-max, pls kindly comment on its handling .
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I am beginning an e-mail discussion group about cell churches. If you are a follower of Jesus Christ and are - in a cell church, or - in a church that is transitioning to a cell church, or - just interested in learning more about cell churches, send me e-mail. (I reserve the right to remove anybody from the group who does not demonstrate a spirit of humility and Christlikeness.)
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Could anyone recommend a mail order distributor for hockey equipment. Thanks in Advance Wayne
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If we had backed him strongly early on I doubt there would be the problem there is now. Many Russians became disillusioned with democracy and reforms when they felt, rightly IMO, that the West didn't care. Yeltsin was virtually promised massive aid (once Bush got over his Gorby-mania.) This probably kept him from dismantling the congress and calling for new elections. Well, the aid didn't come through and we didn't make sure it went to the proper places and now the anti-reformers are gaining strength where before they were in hiding. If they don't reform I don't believe in giving them money. However, I think this is too important to take a non-interventionist approach. This is what really bugs me about Libertarianism -- it sounds like 'it'll all be the same in a hundred years time. no need to do anything.' Despite the wishes of Libertarians, this society is a far way, and getting farther, from being Libertarian. Perhaps voluntary gifts would work if we had the proper framework but we do not have it. We have to face the problem *now*, not in X years when we have a Libertarian dream society. Right now there are huge stumbling blocks to trade, let alone charity. There are still limitations to high-tech exports. NASA can't buy Proton launch vehicles from them. Sure, the market may be able to help a great deal but it can't right now. There are too many obstacles. Instead of fighting against the aid you should be fighting to tear down the obstacles the market and charities have to face. Well, I think limited government is primarily democratic due to it being limited. But the main question is how do you transform a state-run economy and monolithic government into something that even remotely looks like ours? (BTW, sometimes it seems that our government is trying to go the opposite direction) It is not going to be painless and not going to be easy. We simply cannot wait to help when they *have* the 'proper' government. They'll never get there without the aid. It may be too late already. And I'm just excercising mine. As I also said above, another problem I have is with *transformation*. A Libertarian society is not going to happen painlessly or overnight. I have seen nothing about how to take our current government and society and turn it into a minimal government and a responsible self-sufficient populace. They didn't have nuclear weapons 100 years ago. Nor instantaneous communications nor travel to virtually anyplace on the earth in less than a day. Yes, depend on the rulers of the free market and the businesses. Rulers do emerge *somewhere* and they will never represent the opinions of every person on the planet. There must be checks and balances. Checks on the government when it gets out of bounds and checks on industry when it gets out of bounds. Putting all your hopes on the benevolence of the market is, to me, just like putting all your hopes on the benevolence of government.
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Short of changes by the feds, there is no way. Codeine alone is very difficult to prescribe without a lot of hassles. Tylenol #3 is the best compromise. That way he can get refills. The amount of acetominophen he is getting with his codeine won't hurt him any. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and [email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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For a commerical package try WAVE from Precision Visuals 505-530-6563 For a free package try KHOROS from University of New Mexico 508-277-6563 ftp from ptrg.eece.unm.edu Login in anonyomus or ftp with a valid email address as the password cd /pub/khoros/release That will get you to the right place.
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I am continuing to collect user results to produce a more comprehensive report on IIsi clock oscillator upgrades. I you have attempted the modification please drop me a note with details of your experience. The more reports obtained, the more accurate the numbers I will generate. If possible, please include the following: 1) Top speed achieved 2) System configuration at top Mhz setting a) speed rating of the CPU (the last two digits printed on CPU #) b) presence of additional heat sinks c) Nubus & FPU cards used d) floppy drive functionality on both 800 and 1.4 M disks 3) Damage incurred during modification 4) Damage due to higher speed use 5) Average length of time the CPU is on. (i.e. 8 hours a day) 6) Unusual other modifications to the usual procedure
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We have received a number of requests for a reposting of the International Obfuscated C Code Contest rules and guidelines. Also some people requested that these rules be posted to a wider set of groups. Sorry for the cross posting. Some technical clarifications were made to the rules and guidelines (See the diff marks at the right hand edge). The rules and guidelines for this year remain the same, so people who have already or are in the process of submitting entries for the 1993 IOCCC need not worry about these changes. chongo <Landon Curt Noll> /\cc/\ [email protected] Larry Bassel [email protected] =-= #!/bin/sh # This is a shell archive (shar 3.32) # made 04/05/1993 23:00 UTC by [email protected] # Source directory /tmp # # existing files WILL be overwritten # # This shar contains: # length mode name # ------ ---------- ------------------------------------------ # 8971 -r--r--r-- rules # 25592 -r--r--r-- guidelines # 34482 -r--r--r-- mkentry.c # 6418 -r--r--r-- obfuscate.info # # ============= rules ============== echo "x - extracting rules (Text)" sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' > rules && X10th International Obfuscated C Code Contest Rules X XCopyright (c) Landon Curt Noll & Larry Bassel, 1993. XAll Rights Reserved. Permission for personal, education or non-profit use is Xgranted provided this this copyright and notice are included in its entirety Xand remains unaltered. All other uses must receive prior permission in writing Xfrom both Landon Curt Noll and Larry Bassel. X X Obfuscate: tr.v. -cated, -cating, -cates. 1. a. To render obscure. X b. To darken. 2. To confuse: his emotions obfuscated his X judgment. [LLat. obfuscare, to darken : ob(intensive) + X Lat. fuscare, to darken < fuscus, dark.] -obfuscation n. X obfuscatory adj. X X XGOALS OF THE CONTEST: X X * To write the most Obscure/Obfuscated C program under the rules below. X * To show the importance of programming style, in an ironic way. X * To stress C compilers with unusual code. X * To illustrate some of the subtleties of the C language. X * To provide a safe forum for poor C code. :-) X X XNOTE: Changes from the 1993 draft are noted by change bars. ---> | X X XRULES: X X To help us with the volume of entries, we ask that you follow these rules: X X 1) Your entry must be a complete program. X X 2) Your entry must be <= 3217 bytes in length. The number of characters X excluding whitespace (tab, space, newline), and excluding any ; { or } X followed by either whitespace or end of file, must be <= 1536. X X 3) Your entry must be submitted in the following format: X X---entry--- Xrule: 1993 Xfix: y or n (n => this is a new entry, y => this replaces an older entry) Xtitle: title of entry (see comments below) Xentry: Entry number from 0 to 7 inclusive (your 1st entry should by 0) Xdate: Date/time of submission in UTC (see comments below) Xhost: Machine(s) and OS(s) under which your entry was tested X Use tab indented lines if needed X---remark--- X Place remarks about this entry in this section. It would be helpful if X you were to indent your remarks with 4 spaces, though it is not a X requirement. Also, if possible, try to avoid going beyond the 79th X column. Blank lines are permitted. X---author--- Xname: your name Xorg: School/Company/Organization Xaddr: postal address X use tab indented lines to continue X don't forget to include the country Xemail: Email address from a well known site or registered domain. X If you give several forms, list them on separate tab indented lines. Xanon: y or n (y => remain anonymous, n => ok to publish this info) X---info--- XIf your program needs an info file, place a uuencoded copy of it in Xthis section. In the case of multiple info files, use multiple info Xsections. If your entry does not need a info file, skip this section. X---build--- XPlace a uuencoded copy of the command(s) used to compile/build your program Xin this section. It must uudecode into a file named 'build'. The resulting Xfile must be 255 bytes or less. X---program--- XPlace a uuencoded copy of your program in this section. It must uudecode Xinto a file named is 'prog.c'. The resulting file must follow rule #2. X---end--- X X Regarding the above format: X X * The title must match the expression: [a-zA-Z0-9_=][a-zA-Z0-9_=+-]* X and must be 1 to 12 characters in length. X X It is suggested, but not required, that the title should X incorporate your username; in the case of multiple authors, X consider using parts of the usernames of the authors. X X * The date in the ---entry--- section should be given with respect X to UTC. The format of the date should be as returned by asctime() X using the C locale. (see guidelines for more info) X X * You may correct/revise a previously submitted entry by sending X it to the contest email address. Be sure to set 'fix' in the X ---entry--- section to 'n'. The corrected entry must use the same X title and entry number as submittion that is being corrected. Be X sure that you note the resubmittion in the ---remark--- as well. X X * With the exception of the header, all text outside of the above X format may be ignored by the judges. If you need tell the judges X something, put it in the ---remark--- section, or send a separate X Email message to the judges. X X * Information from the ---author--- section will be published unless X 'y' was given to the respective author's 'anon' line. X X * To credit multiple authors, include an ---author--- section for X each author. Each should start with ---author--- line, and X should be found between the ---entry--- and ---build--- sections. X X * The entry's remarks should include: X - what this program does X - how to run the program (sample args or input) X - special compile or execution instructions, if any X - special filename requirements (see rule 4 and 5) X - information about any ---data--- files X - why you think the program is obfuscated X - note if this entry is a re-submission of a previous entry. X - any other remarks (humorous or otherwise) X X * Do not rot13 your entry's remarks. You may suggest that certain X portions of your remarks be rot13ed if your entry wins an award. X X * Info files should be used only to supplement your entry. They X should not be required to exist. X X If your entry does not need an info file, skip the ---info--- X section. If your entry needs multiple info files, use multiple X ---info--- sections, one per info file. You should describe X each info file in the ---remark--- section. X X 4) If your entry is selected as a winner, it will be modified as follows: X X 'build' is incorporated into a makefile, and 'build' is removed X 'prog.c' is renamed to your entry's title, followed by an optional X digit, followed by '.c' X your entry is compiled into a file with the name of your entry's X title, possibly followed by a digit X X If your entry requires that a build file exist, state so in your X entry's remark section. The makefile will be arranged to execute a X build shell script containing the 'build' information. The name of X this build shell script will be your entry's title, possibly followed X by a digit, followed by '.sh'. X X If needed, your entry's remarks should indicate how your entry must X be changed in order to deal with the new filenames. X X 5) The build file, the source and the resulting executable should be X treated as read-only files. If your entry needs to modify these files, X it should make and modify a copy of the appropriate file. If this X occurs, state so in your entry's remarks. X X 6) Entries that cannot be compiled by an ANSI C compiler will be rejected. X Use of common C (K&R + extensions) is permitted, as long as it does not X cause compile errors for ANSI C compilers. X X 7) The program must be of original work. All programs must be in the X public domain. All copyrighted programs will be rejected. X X 8) Entries must be received prior to 07-May-93 0:00 UTC. (UTC is X essentially equivalent to Greenwich Mean Time) Email your entries to: X X ...!{apple,pyramid,sun,uunet}!hoptoad!obfuscate X [email protected] X X We request that your message use the subject 'ioccc entry'. X X If possible, we request that you hold off on Emailing your entries X until 1-Mar-93 0:00 UTC. Early entries will be accepted, however. X We will attempt to email a confirmation to the the first author for X all entries received after 1-Mar-93 0:00 UTC. X X 9) Each person may submit up to 8 entries per contest year. Each entry X must be sent in a separate Email letter. X X 10) Entries requiring human interaction to be built are not allowed. X Compiling an entry produce a file (or files) which may be executed. X X 11) Programs that require special privileges (setuid, setgid, super-user, X special owner or group) are not allowed. X X XFOR MORE INFORMATION: X X The Judging will be done by Landon Noll and Larry Bassel. Please send X questions or comments about the contest, to: X X ...!{apple,pyramid,sun,uunet}!hoptoad!judges (not the address for | X [email protected] submitting entries) | X X The rules and the guidelines may (and often do) change from year to X year. You should be sure you have the current rules and guidelines X prior to submitting entries. To obtain them, send Email to the address | X above and use the subject 'send rules'. | X X One may obtain winners of previous contests (1984 to date), via ftp from: | X X host: ftp.uu.net (192.48.96.9) | X user: anonymous X pass: yourname@yourhost X dir: ~/pub/ioccc | X X As a last resort, previous winners may be obtained by sending Email | X to the above address. Please use the subject 'send YEAR winners', | X where YEAR is a single 4 digit year, a year range, or 'all'. | X X Xchongo <Landon Curt Noll> /\cc/\ [email protected] | XLarry Bassel [email protected] | SHAR_EOF chmod 0444 rules || echo "restore of rules failed" set `wc -c rules`;Wc_c=$1 if test "$Wc_c" != "8971"; then echo original size 8971, current size $Wc_c fi # ============= guidelines ============== echo "x - extracting guidelines (Text)" sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' > guidelines && X10th International Obfuscated C Code Contest Guidelines, Hints and Comments X XCopyright (c) Landon Curt Noll & Larry Bassel, 1993. XAll Rights Reserved. Permission for personal, education or non-profit use is Xgranted provided this this copyright and notice are included in its entirety Xand remains unaltered. All other uses must receive prior permission in writing Xfrom both Landon Curt Noll and Larry Bassel. X XABOUT THIS FILE: X X This file is intended to help people who wish to submit entries to X the International Obfuscated C Code Contest (IOCCC for short). X X This is not the IOCCC rules, though it does contain comments about X them. The guidelines should be viewed as hints and suggestions. X Entries that violate the guidelines but remain within the rules are X allowed. Even so, you are safer if you remain within the guidelines. X X You should read the current IOCCC rules, prior to submitting entries. X The rules are typically sent out with these guidelines. X X Changes from the 1993 draft are noted by change bars. ---> | X X XWHAT IS NEW IN 1993: X X The entry format is better (for us anyway). The program mkentry.c X has been updated. See ENTRY FORMAT. X X We will reject entries that cannot be compiled using an ANSI C X compiler. Certain old Obfuscation hacks that cause ANSI C compilers X fits are no longer permitted. Some of the new issues deal with X non-integral array types, variable number of arguments, C preprocessor X directives and the exit() function. See OUR LIKES AND DISLIKES. X X XHINTS AND SUGGESTIONS: X X You are encouraged to examine the winners of previous contests. See X FOR MORE INFORMATION for details on how to get previous winners. X X Keep in mind that rules change from year to year, so some winning entries X may not be valid entries this year. What was unique and novel one year X might be 'old' the next year. X X An entry is usually examined in a number of ways. We typically apply X a number of tests to an entry: X X * look at the original source X * convert ANSI tri-graphs to ASCII X * C pre-process the source ignoring '#include' lines X * C pre-process the source ignoring '#define' and '#include' lines X * run it through a C beautifier X * examine the algorithm X * lint it X * compile it X * execute it X X You should consider how your entry looks in each of the above tests. X You should ask yourself if your entry remains obscure after it has been X 'cleaned up' by the C pre-processor and a C beautifier. X X Your entry need not do well under all, or in most tests. In certain X cases, a test is not important. Entries that compete for the X 'strangest/most creative source layout' need not do as well as X others in terms of their algorithm. On the other hand, given X two such entries, we are more inclined to pick the entry that X does something interesting when you run it. X X We try to avoid limiting creativity in our rules. As such, we leave X the contest open for creative rule interpretation. As in real life X programming, interpreting a requirements document or a customer request X is important. For this reason, we often award 'worst abuse of the X rules' to an entry that illustrates this point in an ironic way. X X If you do plan to abuse the rules, we suggest that you let us know X in the remarks section. Please note that an invitation to abuse X is not an invitation to break. We are strict when it comes to the X 3217 byte size limit. Also, abusing the entry format tends to X annoy more than amuse. X X We do realize that there are holes in the rules, and invite entries X to attempt to exploit them. We will award 'worst abuse of the rules' X and then plug the hole next year. Even so, we will attempt to use X the smallest plug needed, if not smaller. :-) X X Check out your program and be sure that it works. We sometimes make X the effort to debug an entry that has a slight problem, particularly X in or near the final round. On the other hand, we have seen some X of the best entries fall down because they didn't work. X X We tend to look down on a prime number printer, that claims that X 16 is a prime number. If you do have a bug, you are better off X documenting it. Noting "this entry sometimes prints the 4th power X of a prime by mistake" would save the above entry. And sometimes, X a strange bug/feature can even help the entry! Of course, a correctly X working entry is best. X X XOUR LIKES AND DISLIKES: X X Doing masses of #defines to obscure the source has become 'old'. We X tend to 'see thru' masses of #defines due to our pre-processor tests X that we apply. Simply abusing #defines or -Dfoo=bar won't go as far X as a program that is more well rounded in confusion. X X Many ANSI C compilers dislike the following code, and so do we: X X #define d define X #d foo <-- don't expect this to turn into #define foo X X int i; X j; <-- don't use such implicit type declaration X int k; X X We suggest that you compile your entry with an ANSI C compiler. If you X must use non-ANSI C, such as K&R C, you must avoid areas that result in X compile/link errors for ANSI C compilers. X X Unfortunately, some ANSI C compilers require array indexes to be of | X integral type. Thus, the following classical obfuscation hacks should | X not be used in 1993. This rule may be relaxed in future contests. | X X int i; X char *c; X i[c]; <--- use c[i] instead X (i+3)["string"]; <--- use "string"[i+3] instead X X If your entry uses functions that have a variable number of X arguments, be careful. Systems implement va_list as a wide variety X of ways. Because of this, a number of operations using va_list are X not portable and must not be used: X X * assigning a non-va_list variable to/from a va_list variable X * casting a non-va_list variable into/from a va_list variable X * passing a va_list variable to a function expecting a non-va_list arg X * passing a non-va_list variable to a function expecting a va_list arg X * performing arithmetic on va_list variables X * using va_list as a structure or union X X In particular, do not treat va_list variables as if they were a char **'s. X X Avoid using <varargs.h>, use <stdarg.h> instead. X X If you use C preprocessor directives (#define, #if, #ifdef, ...), X the leading '#' must be the first character on a line. While some X C preprocessors allow whitespace the leading '#', many do not. X X Because the exit() function returns void on some systems, entries X must not assume that it returns an int. X X Small programs are best when they are short, obscure and concise. X While such programs are not as complex as other winners, they do X serve a useful purpose. They are often the only program that people X attempt to completely understand. For this reason, we look for X programs that are compact, and are instructional. X X One line programs should be short one line programs, say around 80 X bytes long. Getting close to 160 bytes is a bit too long in our opinion. X X We tend to dislike programs that: X X * are very hardware specific X * are very OS or Un*x version specific X (index/strchr differences are ok, but socket/streams specific X code is likely not to be) X * dump core or have compiler warnings X (it is ok only if you warn us in the 'remark' header item) X * won't compile under both BSD or SYS V Un*x X * abusing the build file to get around the size limit X * obfuscate by excessive use of ANSI tri-graphs X * are longer than they need to be X * are similar to previous winners X * are identical to previous losers :-) X X Unless you are cramped for space, or unless you are entering the X 'best one liner' category, we suggest that you format your program X in a more creative way than simply forming excessively long lines. X X The build file should not be used to try and get around the size X limit. It is one thing to make use of a several -D's to help out, X but it is quite another to use 200+ bytes of -D's in order to X try and squeeze the source under the size limit. You should feel X free to make use of the build file space, but you are better off X if you show some amount of restraint. X X We allowed whitespace, and in certain cases ; { or } do not impact X your program size (up to a certain point), because we want to get X away from source that is simply a compact blob of characters. X X Given two versions of the same program, one that is a compact blob X of code, and the other that is formatted more like a typical C X program, we tend to favor the second version. Of course, a third X version of the same program that is formatted in an interesting X and/or obfuscated way, would definitely win over the first two! X X We suggest that you avoid trying for the 'smallest self-replicating' X program. We are amazed at the many different sizes that claim X to be the smallest. There is nothing wrong with self-replicating X programs. In fact, a number of winners have been self-replicating. X You might want to avoid the claim of 'smallest', lest we (or others) X know of a smaller one! X X X client entries should be as portable as possible. Entries that X adapt to a wide collection of environments will be favored. Don't X depend on a particular type of display. For example, don't depend X on color or a given size. Don't require backing store. X X X client entries should avoid using X related libraries and X software that is not in wide spread use. We ask that such X client X entries restrict themselves to only the low level Xlib and the X Athena widget set (libX11.a, libXaw.a, libXmu.a and libXt.a). X Don't use M*tif, Xv*ew, or OpenL*ok toolkits, since not everyone X has them. Avoid depending on a particular window manager. Not X everyone has X11r5, and some people are stuck back in X11r4 (or X earlier), so try to target X11r5 without requiring X11r5. Better X yet, try to make your entry run on all version 11 X Window Systems. X X X client entries should not to depend on particular items on X .Xdefaults. If you must do so, be sure to note the required lines X in the ---remark--- section. X X We like programs that: X X * are as concise and small as they need to be X * do something at least quasi-interesting X * pass lint without complaint (not a requirement, but it is nice) X * are portable X * are unique or novel in their obfuscation style X * MAKE USE OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF OBFUSCATION X * make us laugh and/or throw up :-) X X Some types of programs can't excel in some areas. Of course, your X program doesn't have to excel in all areas, but doing well in several X areas really does help. X X We freely admit that interesting, creative or humorous comments in X the ---remark--- section helps your chance of winning. If you had to X read of many twisted entries, you too would enjoy a good laugh or two. X We think the readers of the contest winners do as well. X X Be creative! X X XENTRY FORMAT: X X In order to help us process the many entries, we must request your X assistance by formatting your entries in a certain way. This format, X in addition, allows us to quickly separate information about the X author from the program itself. (see JUDGING PROCESS) X X We have provided the program, mkentry, as an example of how to X format entries. You should be aware of the following warning that X is found in mkentry.c: X X This program attempts to implement the IOCCC rules. Every X attempt has been made to make sure that this program produces X an entry that conforms to the contest rules. In all cases, X where this program differs from the contest rules, the X contest rules will be used. Be sure to check with the X contest rules before submitting an entry. X X You are not required to use mkentry. It is convenient, however, X as it attempts to uuencode the needed files, and attempt to check X the entry against the size rules. X X If you have any suggestions, comments, fixes or complaints about X the mkentry.c program, please send Email to the judges. (see below) X X The following is a sample entry: X X---entry--- Xrule: 1993 Xfix: n Xtitle: chonglab Xentry: 0 Xdate: Mon Mar 1 08:45:20 1993 Xhost: Un*x v6, pdp11/45 X 2.9BSD, pdp11/70 X---remark--- X This is a non-obfuscated obfuscated C program. X X It is likely not to win a prize. But what do you expect from X a short example! X---author--- Xname: Landon Curt Noll Xorg: IOCCC Judging Group Xaddr: Toad Hall X PO Box 170608 X San Francisco, California X 94117-0608 X USA Xemail: [email protected] Xanon: n X---author--- Xname: Larry Bassel Xorg: IOCCC Judging Group Xaddr: Toad Hall X PO Box 170608 X San Francisco, California X 94117-0608 X USA Xemail: hoptoad!sun!lab X [email protected] Xanon: n X---info--- Xbegin 444 info.file XM0V]P>7)I9VAT("AC*2!,86YD;VX@0W5R="!.;VQL+"`Q.3DS+@I!;&P@4FEG XM:'1S(%)E<V5R=F5D+B`@4&5R;6ES<VEO;B!F;W(@<&5R<V]N86PL(&5D=6-A XM=&EO;B!O<B!N;VXM<')O9FET('5S92!I<PIG<F%N=&5D('!R;W9I9&5D('1H XM:7,@=&AI<R!C;W!Y<FEG:'0@86YD(&YO=&EC92!A<F4@:6YC;'5D960@:6X@ XM:71S(&5N=&ER971Y"F%N9"!R96UA:6YS('5N86QT97)E9"X@($%L;"!O=&AE XM<B!U<V5S(&UU<W0@<F5C96EV92!P<FEO<B!P97)M:7-S:6]N(&EN('=R:71I XM;F<*9G)O;2!,86YD;VX@0W5R="!.;VQL+@H*5&AA="!T:&%T(&ES+"!I<RX* XM5&AA="!T:&%T(&ES(&YO="P*("`@(&ES(&YO="!T:&%T('1H870@;F]T(&ES XM+@I4:&%T(&ES+"!T:&%T('1H870@:7,@;F]T+"!I<R$*"@D)+2T@8VAO;F=O XM(#$Y-S0*"DQA<W0@>65A<BP@;VYE('!E<G-O;B!T;VQD('5S('1H870@=&AE XM>2!A8W1U86QL>2!D96-O9&5D('1H:7,@9FEL92X*22!W;VYD97(@:&]W(&UA X9;GD@=VEL;"!D;R!I="!T:&ES('EE87(_"@`` X` Xend X---build--- Xbegin 444 build X28V,@<')O9RYC("UO('!R;V<* X` Xend X---program--- Xbegin 444 prog.c XM;6%I;B@I"GL*(VEF(&1E9FEN960H05]214=)4U1%4D5$7U9/5$527TE.7U-5 XM3DY95D%,15]#04Q)1D]23DE!7U5302D*("`@('!R:6YT9B@B5F]T92!,86YD XM;VX@3F]L;"!F;W(@4W5N;GEV86QE($-I='D@0V]U;F-I;"!S96%T(",Q+EQN X:(BD["B-E;F1I9@H@("`@97AI="@P*3L*?0H` X` Xend X---end--- X X Typically the build file should assume that the source is prog.c X and will compile into prog. If an entry wins, we will rename X its source and binary to avoid filename collision. By tradition, X we use the name of the entry's title, followed by an optional X digit in case of name conflicts. X X If the above entry somehow won the 'least likely to win' award, X we would use chonglab.c and chonglab. X X If your entry depends on, or requires that your build, source X and/or binary files be a particular name, please say so in the X ---remark--- section. If this case applies, it would be be helpful X if you did one of the following: X X * Tell us how to change the filename(s) in your entry. X X * Have the build file make copies of the files. For example: X X cc prog.c -o special_name need special binary X X or rm -f special_src.c need special source X cp prog.c special_src.c X cc special_src.c -o special_name X X or rm -f special_build need special build X tail +4 build > special_build X sh < special_build X X * Assume that we will use the entry title. Send us a version of X your build/program files that uses the name convention. You X should uuencode these files in ---data--- sections. X X If your entry needs to modify its source, info or binary files, X please say so in the ---remark--- section. You should try to avoid X touching your original build, source and binary files. You should X arrange to make copies of the files you intend to modify. This X will allow people to re-generate your entry from scratch. X X Remember that your entry may be built without a build file. We X typically incorporate the build lines into a Makefile. If the X build file must exist, say so in the ---remark--- section. X X If your entry needs special info files, you should uuencode them X into ---info--- sections. In the case of multiple info files, X use multiple ---info--- sections. If no info files are needed, X then skip the ---info--- section. X X Info files are intended to be input, or detailed information that X does not fit well into the ---remark--- section. For example, an X entry that implements a compiler might want to provide some sample X programs for the user to compile. An entry might want to include a X lengthy design document, that might not be appropriate for a X 'hints' file. X X Info files should be used only to supplement your entry. For X example, info files may provide sample input or detailed X information about your entry. Because they are supplemental, X the entry should not require them exist. X X In some cases, your info files might be renamed to avoid name X conflicts. If info files should not be renamed for some reason, X say so in the ---remark--- section. X X Info files must uudecode into the current directory. If they X absolutely must be renamed, or moved into a sub-directory, say X so in the ---remark--- section. X X When submitting multiple entries, be sure that each entry has X a unique entry number from 0 to 7. Your first entry should X have entry number 0. X X With the exception of the header, all text outside of the entry X format may be ignored. That is, don't place text outside of the X entry and expect the judges to see it. (Our decoding tools aren't X AI progs!) If you need tell the the something, put it in the X ---remark--- section, or send a Email to the judges at: X X ...!{apple,pyramid,sun,uunet}!hoptoad!judges (not the address for X [email protected] submitting entries) X X The date should be given with respect to UTC. (Some systems refer X to this as GMT or GMT0) The format of the date should be that as X returned by asctime() in the C locale. An example of such a string is: X X Thr Apr 01 00:47:00 1993 X X This format is similar to the output of the date(1) command. The X string does not include the timezone name before the year. On many X systems, one of the following command will produce a similar string: X X date -u "+%a %h %d %T 19%y" X date -u | sed -e 's/... \(19[0-9][0-9]\)$/\1/' X sh -c 'TZ=UTC date | sed -e "s/... \(19[0-9][0-9]\)$/\1/"' X sh -c 'TZ=GMT date | sed -e "s/... \(19[0-9][0-9]\)$/\1/"' X sh -c 'TZ=GMT0 date | sed -e "s/... \(19[0-9][0-9]\)$/\1/"' X X You are allowed to update/fix/revise your entry. To do so, set X the 'fix' line in the ---entry--- section to 'y' instead of 'n'. X Be sure that the resubmittion uses the same title and entry number X as well, as these are used to determine which entry is to be X replaced. X X XJUDGING PROCESS: X X Entries are judged by Larry Bassel and Landon Curt Noll. X X Entries are unpacked into individual directories. The Email message X is unpacked into individual files, each containing: X X ---entry--- section X all ---author--- sections X all ---info--- sections X ---build--- section X ---program--- section X any other text, including the Email message headers X X Prior to judging, the 'any other text' file is scanned to be sure X it does not contain useful information (or in case the entry was X malformed and did not unpack correctly). Information from the X ---author--- sections are not read until the judging process is X complete, and then only from entries that have won an award. X X The above process helps keep us biased for/against any one particular X individual. We are usually kept in the dark as much as you are X until the final awards are given. We like the surprise of finding X out in the end, who won and where they were from. X X We attempt to keep all entries anonymous, unless they win an award. X Because the main 'prize' of winning is being announced, we make all X attempts to send non-winners into oblivion. We remove all non-winning X files, and shred all related paper. By tradition, we do not even X reveal the number of entries that we received. (for the curious, X we do indicate the volume of paper consumed when presenting the IOCCC X winners at talks) X X After the Usenix announcement, we attempt to send Email to the X authors of the winning entries. One reason we do this is to give X the authors a chance to comment on the way we have presented their X entry. They are given the chance to correct mistakes, typos. We X often accept their suggestions/comments about our remarks as well. X This is done prior to posting the winners to the wide world. X X Judging consists of a number of elimination rounds. During a round, X the collection of entries are divided into two roughly equal piles; X the pile that advances on to the next round, and the pile that does X not. We also re-examine the entries that were eliminated in the X previous round. Thus, an entry gets at least two readings. X X A reading consists of a number of actions: X X * reading the ---entry--- section X * reading the uudecoded ---build--- section X * reading the uudecoded ---program--- section X * reading the uudecoded ---info--- section(s), if any X * passing the source thru the C pre-processor X shipping over any #include files X * performing a number of C beautify/cleanup edits on the source X * passing the beautified source thru the C pre-processor X shipping over any #include files X X In later rounds, other actions are performed: X X * linting the source X * compiling/building the source X * running the program X * performing misc tests on the source and binary X X Until we reduce the stack of entries down to about 25 entries, entries X are judged on an individual basis. An entry is set aside because it X does not, in our opinion, meet the standard established by the round. X When the number of entries thins to about 25 entries, we begin to form X award categories. Entries begin to compete with each other for awards. X An entry often will compete in several categories. X X The actual award category list will vary depending on the types of entries X we receive. A typical category list might be: X X * best small one line program X * best small program X * strangest/most creative source layout X * most useful obfuscated program X * best game that is obfuscated X * most creatively obfuscated program X * most deceptive C code X * best X client (see OUR LIKES AND DISLIKES) X * best abuse of ANSI C X * worst abuse of the rules X * <anything else so strange that it deserves an award> X X We do not limit ourselves to this list. For example, a few entries are so X good/bad that they are declared winners at the start of the final round. X We will invent awards categories for them, if necessary. X X In the final round process, we perform the difficult tasks of X reducing the remaining entries (typically about 25) down to 8 or 10 X winners. Often we are confident that the entries that make it into X the final round are definitely better than the ones that do not X make it. The selection of the winners out of the final round, is X less clear cut. X X Sometimes a final round entry good enough to win, but is beat out X by a similar, but slightly better entry. For this reason, it is X sometimes worthwhile to re-enter an improved version of an entry X that failed to win in a previous year. This assumes, of course, X that the entry is worth improving in the first place! X X More often that not, we select a small entry (usually one line), a X strange/creative layout entry, and an entry that abuses the contest X rules in some way. X X In the end, we traditionally pick one entry as 'best'. Sometimes such X an entry simply far exceeds any of the other entry. More often, the X 'best' is picked because it does well in a number of categories. X X XANNOUNCEMENT OF WINNERS: X X The first announcement, occurs at a Summer Usenix conference. By tradition, X this is done during the latter part of the UUNET/IOCCC BOF, just prior to X the Berkeley BSD, and BSDI BOF. X X Winning entries will be posted in late June to the following groups: X X comp.lang.c comp.unix.wizards alt.sources X X In addition, pointers to these postings are posted to the following X X comp.sources.d alt.sources.d misc.misc X comp.sources.misc comp.windows.x X X Winning entries will be deposited into the uunet archives. See X below for details. X X Often, winning entries are published in selected magazines. Winners X have appeared in books ("The New Hackers Dictionary") and on T-Shirts. X X Last, but not least, winners receive international fame and flames! :-) X X XFOR MORE INFORMATION: X X You may contact the judges by sending Email to the following address: X X ...!{apple,pyramid,sun,uunet}!hoptoad!judges (not the address for X [email protected] submitting entries) X X Questions and comments about the contest are welcome. X X The rules and the guidelines may (and often do) change from year to | X year. You should be sure you have the current rules and guidelines | X prior to submitting entries. To obtain them, send Email to the address | X above and use the subject 'send rules'. | X X One may obtain winners of previous contests (1984 to date), via ftp from: | X X host: ftp.uu.net (192.48.96.9) | X user: anonymous X pass: yourname@yourhost X dir: ~/pub/ioccc | X X As a last resort, previous winners may be obtained by sending Email | X to the above address. Please use the subject 'send YEAR winners', | X where YEAR is a single 4 digit year, a year range, or 'all'. | X X Xchongo <Landon Curt Noll> /\cc/\ [email protected] | XLarry Bassel [email protected] | SHAR_EOF chmod 0444 guidelines || echo "restore of guidelines failed" set `wc -c guidelines`;Wc_c=$1 if test "$Wc_c" != "25592"; then echo original size 25592, current size $Wc_c fi echo "End of part 1, continue with part 2" exit 0
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I tried to E-mail you, but the message bounced. Motorola has a University Support Program through which (I've been told) folks at schools can get sample quantities of parts. If you'd like to try this route, e-mail me for the address/phone #...I don't wish to post it for all the world to see.
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... I think this is a big leap sex->depression. One example is myself, where no sex->depression :) But, seriously 1) promiscuity is on a decline, depression is not and 2) it might be more reasonable to say depression->promiscuity. I think depression is more likely to come from emotional problems (relationships, family, job, friends) and promiscuity is used as an escape. Since I see marriage as a civil and religious bond rather than an emotional bond, I don't see a problem with sex before (not outside of) marriage so long as you have the same commitment and devotion as what is expected from a married couple. Of course, this is just my opinion.
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Likewise for me please. First time I've hear of it, but I've beem looking for something like this for the past few months.
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Has anyone done a model of the 52 pin version of the 68hc11? It doesn't seem to be too big a job, but if someone else has already done it ...
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It's made by Rohm. (as is all BAxxx parts). Call 714-855-2131 and ask if you can get a sample (it's only like a $2 part).
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This is one of the differences between OT prophecy and NT prophecy. In the NT, it is expected that when believers gather, - people will prophesy - the prophecy must be judged (1 Cor 14:29) There is nothing about killing someone who makes a mistake. Scripture is scripture; there is no "gift of scripture". And I don't know about you, but I know that _I_ have made mistakes while filled with the spirit. If you don't give grace to allow people to make mistakes, they will never grow in the use of the spiritual gifts! When we minister in my small group, I encourage people to speak out any impressions or images they think might be from the Lord. Only by trying will they know whether they were right or wrong -- and in either case, they'll have a better handle on it the next time. Didn't you fall when you were learning to ride a bicycle? But you kept on trying, and you learned both from your failures and your successes. Spiritual gifts are no different -- you get better with experience. The canon of Scripture is complete. Does this mean that God no longer speaks? I have heard his voice -- not audibly (though some have), but clearly nonetheless. Is what I heard equivalent to Scripture? No. I have never heard contemporary prophets claim that what they receive from the Lord is on the same level as Scripture; on the contrary, those who are mature obey the Scriptures by submitting their prophecies to fellow believers for judgement. And the most reliable yardstick for judging prophecies is, certainly, the Scriptures themselves. The canon is closed -- but God is not silent! Does it matter what it is called? The question is not how to label it, but how to receive it. Words of knowledge, incidentally, are similar to prophecy (and sometimes the two overlap), but generally it is supernatural knowledge of some fact that could not be known otherwise.
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Hello, I'm doing a paper on censorship in music and I would appreciate it if you took the time to participate in this survey. Please answer as each question asks ('why?' simply means that you have room to explain your answer, if you chose.). The last question is for any comments, questions, or suggestions. Thank you in advance, please E-mail to the address at the end. I) are you [male/female] II) what is your age? III)what is your major/occupation? IV) what type of music do you listen to (check all that apply)? a. hard rock b. metal c. alternative d. blues e. rap f. jazz g. soft rock h. easy listening i. country j. classical k. hard core l. dance m. new age n. others (did I miss any?)____________ 1) Do you think recordings with objectionable or offensive lyrics be labeled? [yes/no] Why? 2) Do you think certain recordings should be banned from minors (under 18 years of age)? [yes/no] why? 3) Do you think certain recordings should be banned. Period. [yes/no] Why? 4) If yes to any of the above, who should decide: a. parents b. government c. music industry d. other________________ feel free to add any comments on this. 5) Do you think [more/less] should be done for controling record sales, or do you think the present labeling system is enough? 6) What is your definition of censorship? Also, feel free to add comments, suggestions, questions, or further explanations. Please E-mail at: [email protected] or hit 'R' to reply. thanks. Matthew T. Thompson disclaimer: if any responses are used in paper, they will be anoynamous (sp?) unless the person specifies they what their name to be used. -- *************This .sig is closed for repairs********************************
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I believe we are down to two: the 15-day and the 60-day. (I don't remember a 30-day, but rather a 21-day. Anyways, it's gone now.) The period length is a minimum, not a maximum. You can keep a guy on the 15-day for as long as you want, IF he's still certified as injured. The player must be periodically re-evaluated to determine if he's still injured (thus you cannot park a player on the DL who maybe is out of options and you do not wish to expose to waivers). If you get someone qualified for the 60-day that reduces the frequency of re-evaluations. There is no longer, I believe, any limit to the number of players you can place on the DL. When there was, you often had to choose and juggle your injured players between the lists. --King "Sparky" Banaian |"No taxes: No new taxes, [email protected] |no old taxes, we are taxed Dept. of Economics, Pitzer College |enough." -- Rep. Alan Keyes Latest 1993 GDP forecast: 2.4% | (please run, Alan!)
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I have read one report of a brave soul who rewired the 40 mhz clock and a higher speed clock oscillator's outputs through a double throw switch to allow different speeds. There was no mention of any attempts to switch speeds on the fly but if the SI uses timing loops anything like a Quadra for accessing its floppy drive, dynamic switching will wreak havoc. A Quadra must reboot after having its clock speed significantly changed or it will be unable to properly access its floppy drive.
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Subject: 1.2 External FD for PS/2 (extremely cheap) I have a brand new 1.2 external floppy drive for PS/2, still in the box. I will sell it for $90 + shipping/firm, which is half of the market price (check page 474 of Computer Shopper, Apr-93 issue, the price is $179 there). Please let me know if you are interested.
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Lloyd Pettit. Yes, it is true that he refused to buy a franchise from the NHL for $50M; but at the time the reason was that the established market for teams was much less than that. He felt that no one would pay $50M for an expansion team, and that he would simply wait to buy an existing franchise for less than that. But the market fooled him, and 5 teams have been created for $50M apiece in the last three years, and even the existing teams can't be moved for less than $50M and I doubt that he could get one for that little. Pettit gambled and lost. Now he'll have to pay more.
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My vote goes to John Vanbiesbrouck. His mask has a skyline of New York City, and on the sides there are a bunch of bees (Beezer). It looks really sharp. -- Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! [email protected] IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
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I have an applicationShell which uses a colormap created with XCreateColormap() and uses all of the colors available for my 8-bit display. When I move the cursor over the window I get the "Technicolor Effect" - which is fine. Basically, my program works. My problem/question is: When I popup a dialogShell to prompt the user for some input I want the XmNdialogStyle to be set to XmDIALOG_PRIMARY_APPLICATION_MODAL. The result is that if my cursor is over the dialogShell I get my colormap, but if the cursor is over the applicationShell (or any window other than the dialogShell) I get the default colormap. But I'd like it so that if my cursor is over _any_ window of my application, I get my colormap. Any suggestions? Thanks,
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The host file requires the names that you'll be using in addition to the ip address sucb as 100.0.0.1 name.server.name 100.2.2.1 name.router.name
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Has anybody generated an X server for Windows NT? If so, are you willing to share your config file and other tricks necessary to make it work? Thanks for any information.
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I have heard that epileptic patients go into seizures if they eat anything with MSG added. This may have something to do with the excitotoxicity of neurons.
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What they would need to do, though, is make sure that nobody has access to decent crypto in the first place. They probably can't tell Clippered voice from Clippered triple-DESed voice until they get their copy of your key. Any criminal who's going to use encryption will do it under cover of Clipper. The only way to avoid this will be to try to prohibit strong encryption. I probably shouldn't say this, but they could try to detect the use of an illegal cypher by transmitting in the clear some statistical properties of the plaintext. An old-fashioned wiretap could then detect the use of pre-encryption, which would drastically increase the measured entropy of the input. A countermeasure to this would be to use steganographic techniques which put out voice. You can tell if the NSA built this feature in: blow on the mike, and observe whether a band of thugs comes through your ceiling.
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These drivers (updated) are available directly from Diamond. they will even ship them to you at no charge.(at least they did for me.)
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Well, actually now that you mention it, a few weeks ago the CBC ran a documentary on "Ice Hockey in Harlem". the Canadian Club of New York (something like that) sponsors a league for kids in Harlem and based on the TV report they all seemed to be having a lot of fun. All playing with regular equipment, jerseys, etc etc, on a proper outdoor rink. It looked just like kids playing hockey anywhere else.
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SSRT ROLLOUT Speech Delivered by Col. Simon P. Worden, The Deputy for Technology, SDIO Mcdonnell Douglas - Huntington Beach April 3,1993 Most of you, as am I, are "children of the 1960's." We grew up in an age of miracles -- Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles, nuclear energy, computers, flights to the moon. But these were miracles of our parent's doing. For a decade and more the pundits have told us - "you've lost it!" The "me" generation is only living on the accomplishments of the past. You and I have even begun to believe the pessimists. We listen in awe as the past generation tells of its triumphs. Living history they are. We are privileged to hear those who did it tell of it. A few weeks ago some of this very team listened in awe as General Bernie Schriever told of his team's work - and yes struggle - to build this nation's Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. What stories can we tell? Blurry-eyed telescopes? Thousand dollar toilet seats? Even our space launch vehicles hearken only of that past great time. They are and seem destined to remain Gen. Schriever's ICBMs. I find it hard to swell with pride that the best new space-lifter idea is to refurbish old Minuteman and Poseidon ballistic missiles. Well - The pessimists are wrong. The legacy is continuing. This event is proof. To our technological parents: We've listened to your stories. We've caught your enthusiasm and can-do spirit. And we've learned from your achievements - and your mistakes. Let me honor one of you who was part of that history and the impetus behind this history - Max Hunter. You are one of the greatest engineers of the firts great age of space exploration. Your insight and discipline built the Thor ICBM - later incorporated into today's most successful launch vehicle - The Delta. You told us in the 60's that a new form of launch vehicle - a single stage reusable rocket - can and should be built. You advocated this idea tirelessly. It was elegantly simple, as are all great breakthroughs. You showed us how to build it. You convinced us it could be done. You are working by our side to weld its components into place. Most important - you reminded us of a prime engineering principle - undoubtably one you learned from the generation before you - the generation that built transcontinental aviation in the 1920's and 30's - build a little and test a little and Max, you passed all of this on to people like Pat Ladner who started this program for the SDI. Douglas Aircraft didn't start with a DC-10. They didn't even start with a DC-3. Our grandfathers built a little, tested a little - even sold a little and made a little money - before they moved on to the next step. They didn't take a decade or more before putting the first "rubber on the road." Max Hunter - you didn't take ten years to build Thor, and by God we're not going to take ten years to show that low cost, single stage, reusable aerospace transportation is real. We ended the cold war in a few short years. It took the same team here today but a few years to show through the Strategic Defense Initiative that the cold war must end. We - you and us - launched a series of satellites - The Delta experiments - in about a year apiece. This, more than anything else signaled our commitment to end the impasse between ourselves and the Soviet Union. Those who made the decisions on both sides have underscored the importance of our work in bringing about a new international relationship. But it is the same team which is now putting in place the framework for an aerospace expansion that is our legacy for the next generation. We will make space access routine and affordable. We built this magnificent flying machine in two years. This summer a true rocket ship will take off and land on earth for the first time. Then we can and surely will build in the next three years a reusable sub-orbital rocket. It will allow us to use space rapidly, affordably, and efficiently as no other nation can. And yes - we'll make a little money off it too! Then - and only then - we'll spend another three years to build a fully reusable single stage to orbit system. The DC-3 of space will be a reality! We may even be able to use some of the rocket propulsion breakthroughs of our former cold war adversaries. What a wonderful irony if this SDI product and Russian efforts to counter SDI merge to power mankind's next step to the stars! To be sure, we must guard against the temptations to leap to the final answer. Robert Goddard's first rockets weren't Saturn V's! If we succumb to the temptation to ask for just a few extra dollars and a few more years to jump immediately to a full orbital system - we will fail. Max Hunter and his colleagues showed the way. Three years and a cloud of dust - in our case rocket exhausts. There is no short-cut. If we expect to reshape the world again - we must do it one brick at a time. Minds on tasks at hand!
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The last sentence is ironic, since so many readers of soc.religion.christian seem to not be embarrassed by apologists such as Josh McDowell and C.S. Lewis. The above also expresses a rather odd sense of history. What makes you think the masses in Aquinas' day, who were mostly illiterate, knew any more about rhetoric and logic than most people today? If writings from the period seem elevated consider that only the cream of the crop, so to speak, could read and write. If everyone in the medieval period "knew the rules" it was a matter of uncritically accepting what they were told. Bill Mayne
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Yesterday I wrote a program to do bilinear interpolation ala Numerical Recipes, with the PBMPLUS libraries. I'm pretty happy with the results, but I'm looking for any already-coded non-linear interpolation schemes before I go ahead an try to write one. Any pointers? --
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How could this possibly be "environmental vandalism" when there is no "environment" to vandalize up there? Since the advertising "is just to help defray costs", it's certainly no surprise that "the taxpayers would bear most of the expense". Sounds like a good idea to me, since the taxpayers would bear _all_ of the expense if they didn't do the advertising. Great idea, they should have done it long ago. I can't believe that a mile-long billboard would have any significant effect on the overall sky brightness. Venus is visible during the day, but nobody complains about that. Besides, it's in LEO, so it would only be visible during twilight when the sky is already bright, and even if it would have some miniscule impact, it would be only for a short time as it goes zipping across the sky. No doubt. People are always looking for something to protest about, so it would be no surprise. Well, look on the, er, bright side. Imagine the looks on the faces of people in primitive tribes out in the middle of nowhere as they look up and see a can of Budweiser flying across the sky... :-D --
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Hey, I have some Star Trek Christmas Ornaments for sale. They are the the Hallmark Shuttle Craft Galileo. They went for $24.00 during christmas. I am willing to sell it for that price + shipping. If you are interested and have some questions, please reply...
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Frankly, no. Offense and defense are equally important. But the pitcher is 80% of the defense. The primary role of every other player is on offense. Even shortstops are a bigger part of the offensive game than of the defensive game. (They might not do much with their part of the offense, but that's another issue.) That being said, I think both Smith and Yount deserve the HOF. They hit pretty well in addition to their defense.
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TOWNHOME FOR SALE IN WHEATON Briarcliffe Lakes of Wheaton Just North Of Butterfield Road Call (708) 682-8222 and ask for Harriet Bode (Prudential Realty) Description: A very neat, well cared for, low maintenance starter coach home in very fine condition located on a cul-de-sac . Just move in. Rooms:(5+1) - Eat in kitchen (10.3 X 9.2) - Large master bedroom (12.6 X 12.6) - Spare Bedroom (12.6 X 10) - Dining Room (10.9 X 9) - Living Room (21 X 11.10) - Utility Room (10 X 5.5) - 1.25 Baths Appliances: - Stove(gas), refrigerator and dish washer - Garage opener - Washer and Dryer - Garbage Disposal - Gas water heater (3 Years Old) - Central A/C with DIGITAL Thermostat. Highlights: - Electric Fire Place in living room. - Sliding glass doors which open up to a patio with a secluded back yard area. - Plenty of storage space with patio storage closet and storage closet in garage. - New ceiling fan in Dining Room, - Completely remodeled bathroom (new wallpaper, shower door, shower tile, etc...) - Mini blinds for all windows - Newer carpets (beige) (About 3 Years old) - One car garage and plenty of guest parking Association Fees: $105.90 which includes the following: - Lawn Maintenance - Snow Removal - All Exterior building maintenance Taxes 1992: $1,700
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Yeah, the news is true...the Leafs lost to the Wings 6-3. Wish I could say I'd seen the whole game but my husband wanted to watch "Young Guns II" on another channel. Sometime between the first time I tuned in and d saw the Leafs tie and the next time I tuned in and heard the score was 5-1, something happened. Please no woofing from Red Wings fans. They're my third favourite team, and if they make it past the Leafs I'll wish them luck. As for Potvin...well, it WAS his fist playoff game.
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I have the following Nth Engine graphics cards for sale w/drivers for AutoCAD R11. Display list proccessing is done through hardware. B640 - 640x480 B752 - 752x580 I will take the highest reanable offer. --
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DN> From: [email protected] (David Nye) DN> Briefly, this is a condition in which patients who have significant DN> residual weakness from childhood polio notice progression of the DN> weakness as they get older. One theory is that the remaining motor DN> neurons have to work harder and so die sooner. If this theory were true, the muscle biopsy would show group atrophy (evidence of acute loss of enlarged motor units); it doesn't. Instead, the biopsy shows scattered, angulated, atrophic fibers. This is more consistent with load-shedding by chronically overworked motor neurons - the neurons survive, at the expense of increasingly denervated muscle.
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I'm looking to build a microphone preamp that has very good low-noise characteristics, large clean gain, and incorportates phantom power (20-48 volts (dc)) for a PZM microphone. I'm leaning towards a good, low-cost (??) instrumentation amplifier to maintain the balanced input from the microphone, for its good CMRR, internal compensation, and because i can use a minimal # of parts. Does anyone out there have any experience, suggestions, advice, etc...that they'd like to pass on, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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[...} Living through those days at the age of 20 and following the internal and external news gives me that knowledge and position. In 1974, Turkey had a democratic goverment and free press at that time. Forget about internal news agencies, I haven't heard anything from any international source about any concentration camps with Greek Cypriot prisoners in Turkey. However, I heard Adana POW camp. It was not secret and well recognized POW camp. I see, They vanished in Turkish labor camps. Turks have decided to acknowledge their existence first but later changed their minds releasing them. Is that it? What do you think happened to them? I thought that MIA's are only the subject of Rambo and Chuck Noris movies. Seems that I am wrong. You don't need to belive me. Turkiye was never a clandestine state in its history, It has been a respected and continuous member of UN since the inception of UN. No body ever questioned the UN membership of Turkey because of what had happened in 1974a and after. Only a short lived arms embargo was imposed unilaterally by USA to satisfy the internal Greek loby. I know what you would say next. Let me answer it before wasting anytime. Yes! UN had a few condemning resolutions against Turkey because of handling the Cyprus problem, especially after the 1980 coup. Well, US and Israel had a few too. What can I say? I am sure during Athens Junta duruing 1960-74, Greeks had their own share too. Have you looked at the latest UN agenda for Cyprus talks mediated by Gali? There was no issue whatsoever about any missing people among the negotiating parties. was there? I heard many times from Denktas interviews by Turkish and International press. He keeps saying that "This was no longer an issue for peace talks." Also, you don't want me fish for the Greek Cypriot politician's words (that Argic had posted zillion times) describing missing peoples as a Greek-Cypriot myth. Seems that there is a different opinions among Greek-Cypriots as well about missing people in Turkish custody. [..] I am not claiming anything. I just told you what was given to Greek Cypriots as an answer by Turkish Goverment/Turkish Cypriots when they wanted to locate some of their own between July 15 and the final cease-fire in late August, 1974. This answer seems to satisfy the international community, the UN, and the Vasilu Goverment (since he did not make it an issue for the peace talks). Also, I am not aware of any UN condemnation against Turkey about any missing Greek-Cypriot. Are you? BTW, do you mean that Nicos Sampson had a bloodless coup d'eta and nobody got hurt in those events? Like I said before. There is even a different opinion among Greek-Cypriots for this myth. The officers in Turkish Army who governed the Adana POW camp must be hell of clever dudes to cover up their tracks 8-). I hope Turkish Army does't have same type of morons for the security of Turkiye. However, this must a good subject for a movie script. One should inform Oliver Stone about this. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If this is what you understood from the paragraph above, you better let your computer system administrator check the character conversion tables in your system. If yours are OK, I should inform mine 8-).
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A weird thing has happened to my computer lately, it gets locked (stops doing anything) at any instance without any reason whatsover. I might be using Edit and gets locked, or i might be at the prompt at the same occurs. It happens almost once every 3 times i connect the computer, Does Anyone have the slight idea what's wrong with it? (If i try to use CTRL-ALT-DEL after that, no response. I have to turn it off and back on again) Thanks. Any help will be really appreciated. E-mail if possible as sometimes i can't access this service.
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If he's not, I will. Put two riders on identical machines. It's the one who knows what he's doing, and why, that will be faster. It *may* be possible to improve your technique if you have no idea what it is, through trial and error, but it is not very effective methodology. Only by understanding the technique of steering a motorcycle can one improve on that technique (I hold that this applies to any human endeavor). Do you consider an understanding of the physics of traction absurd? Are you seriously suggesting that one can form a traction management policy without understanding what it is or what factors increase or decrease available traction? Braking? It is highly unlikely that any biker is going to develop his maximum swerving ability without any knowledge of turning techniques. For most of his riding life this may not be a problem, but in an emergency situation it is very definately placing him at a disadvantage. I disagree. The existance and immense success of riding courses which teach the technique indicate that the concept can be taught in a manner that is neither confusing, nor detracts from any other aspects of the course. Perhaps, but in the ensuing discussion, you strayed far from that point, to claim that knowledge of steering technique is irrelevant to a rider's ability. I find this assertion ludicrous.
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Can someone out there tell me how to switch Window's screen resolution quickly and easily? I know that I can go back into install to do it, but what I'd really like is to have is the ability to just change a couple of startup or configuration files and have the resolution changed. I already have both video drivers that I need on my system, so that isn't a problem. Thanks, Sean.
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Um. How many games have the Orioles won? He is, or will be. No, currently there's no room for him in the rotation. Key is having a Most Impressive April. Abbott is pitching well. Perez is back. Wickman has pitched his way into the rotation, and is holding his spot with an outstanding performance his last time out. And Kamieniecki isn't doing too poorly himself. If the Yankees find themselves in need of a starter, Militello will get another chance. Until then, he'll have to wait in line.
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Hi, netters I am looking for source code that can reads the ascii file or bitmap file and produced the thinned image. For example, to preprocess the character image I want to apply thinning algorithm.
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Hi all, I have a IIsi with a floppy drive that might be bad (and might just be out of alignment, I haven't checked yet. :-)) If the drive is not easily reparable, I'd like to replace it with an _internal_ floptical. Can this be easily done? Can it be done at all? I'm assuming that floptical drives can read and write both 800k and 1.4k floppies. If this is not in fact true, please tell me.
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Cool quote. Better watch it. The theists will jump on you for that... :-) Nanci
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For a good discussion of cryptographically "good" random number generators, check out the draft-ietf-security-randomness-00.txt Internet Draft, available at your local friendly internet drafts repository. A reasonably source of randomness is the output of a cryptographic hash function (e.g., MD5), when fed with a large amount of more-or-less random data. For example, running MD5 on /dev/mem is a slow, but random enough, source of random bits; there are bound to be 128 bits of entropy in the tens (or hundreds) of megabytes of data in a modern workstation's memory, as a fair amount of them are system timers, i/o buffers, etc.
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I had heard the rumors about LA, Cin, Hou, and SD all being interested in Mark Davis, so it doesn't surprise me that a team had to give up something and cash to actually get him. Lynch "MOB"
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