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This is a very good point. AT&T obviously knew and participated in the
development of the Clipper chip. This amounts to unfair business practice and
gives AT&T an early monopoly on the market [hopefully a non-existant market].
Other companies that compete with AT&T in the cellular market (Motorola, NEC, etc)
have grounds to file a complaint over this.
It would seem that the one fact that the government has overlooked in this
whole fiasco is the economic standpoint. As others have mentioned, the most
difficulty the Clipper chip faces is an economic one. Let's face it, the
average consumer doesn't care or know that the Clipper is a bad idea. If
there is a perceived need for cellular encryption, then the companies will
provide one. Most likely, a standard will emerge. But if the Clipper is
too expensive (and $25 a chip is way too much) then they will develope their
own or buy a cheaper one. I give SCT my full support, and hope the
Clipper chip goes the way of the Beta video tape format.
Also hope they get sued over re-using the name Clipper.
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Go with the Mercedes, if you can afford it. I think the 300 wagon starts around
50k, although it could be 60k.
There is no comparison with any of the other cars listed.
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Well, this particular thread of vituperation slopped its venom over
into alt.atheism, where we spend most of our time entertaining
arguments against our belief system, without resorting to accusing
others of bigotry. It's somewhat ironic that our exposure to bigotry
happens in this instance to have originated in rec.scouting, since I
always understood scouting to teach tolerance and diversity. I
understand bigotry to be irrational prejudice against other people who
happen to be of a different race, religion, ethnic background, sex, or
other inconsequential characteristics. All the evidence I've seen
indicates that sexual orientation and lack of belief in gods are
exactly such inconsequential characteristics. Thus, pending further
evidence, I conclude that those who show prejudice against such people
are bigots, and organizations that exclude such people are
discriminatory. | alt.atheism | [
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You are making precisely one of the points I wanted to make.
I fully agree with you that there is a big distinction between the
*process* of science and the end result.
As an end result of science, one wants to get results that are
objectively verifiable. But there is nothing objective about the
*process* of science.
If good empirical research were done and showed that there is some merit
to homeopathic remedies, this would certainly be valuable information.
But it would still not mean that homeopathy qualifies as a science. This
is where you and I disagree with Turpin. In order to have science, one
must have a theoretical structure that makes sense, not a mere
collection of empirically validated random hypotheses.
Experiment and empirical studies are an important part of science, but
they are merely the culmination of scientific research. The most
important part of true scientific methodology is SCIENTIFIC THINKING.
Without this, one does not have any hypotheses worth testing. (No,
hypotheses do not just leap out at you after you look at enough data.
Nor do they simply come to you in a flash one day while you're shaving or
looking out the window. At least not unless you've done a lot of really
good thinking beforehand.)
The difference between a Nobel Prize level scientist and a mediocre
scientist does not lie in the quality of their empirical methodology.
It depends on the quality of their THINKING.
It really bothers me that so many graduate students seem to believe that
they are doing science merely because they are conducting empirical
studies. And it bothers me even more that there are many fields, such as
certain parts of psychology, where there seems to be no thinking at all,
but mere studies testing ad hoc hypotheses.
And I'm especially offended by Russell Turpin's repeated assertion that
science amounts to nothing more than avoiding mistakes. Simply avoiding
mistakes doesn't get you anywhere.
--
In the arguments between behaviorists and cognitivists, psychology seems
less like a science than a collection of competing religious sects. | sci.med | [
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I was my understanding that the purpose of those removeable-front-panels
were to make the radio useless, and thus discourage theft (that is if the
cover were removed by the owner and taken along whenever the car was left.)
If those covers were sold for anything remarkably less than the radio
originally costs, or even sold at all,
then the above discouragement wouldn't be so great.
I personally would be unhappy, if I bought a radio like that, thinking that
removing the cover greatly depreciated the radio's value, and the covers were
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Larry:
The subject content IS serious; as is the question.
On one hand you state that "things have changed dramatically" but, at the
same time nothing you "can think of has changed". Your girlfriend seems
to want to see a counselor, but you don't.
I'd recommend that you examine your hesitation to see a counselor. It's
a very good environment to examine issues.
The fact of the matter is: your girlfriend has a different perception than
you. The TWO of you need to address the issue in order to resolve it.
Please consider going to a counselor with your girlfriend. What could it
possibly hurt? | sci.med | [
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Hello,
I'm trying to get a drum program to work that I downloaded from
ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the pub/pc/win3/sounds directory. It's called
drum.zip.
I have an ATI Stereo FX card with the latest Windows drivers installed.
When I try to run the drum program, it reports that a MIDI device is not
installed, however the drivers utility in the control panel reports that it
is installed.
Anyone have any idea how to set up the MIDI device so that the drum program
will work with my setup? What I'm trying to do is use my computer as a
metronome. Someone suggested that I try one of the drum machines that are
circulating around out there. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Terry | comp.os.ms-windows.misc | [
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This reminds me of the last Graham Kerr cooking show I saw. Today he
smoked meat on the stovetop in a big pot! He used a strange technique
I'd never seen before.
He took a big pot with lid, and placed a tray in it made from aluminum foil.
The tray was about the size and shape of a typical coffee-table ash tray,
made by crumpling a sheet of foil around the edges.
In the tray, he placed a couple spoonfuls of brown sugar, a similar
quantity of brown rice (he said any rice will do), the contents of two
teabags of Earl Grey tea, and a few cloves.
On top of this was placed an ordinary aluminum basket-type steamer, with
two chicken breasts in it. The lid was put on, and the whole assembly
went on the stovetop at high heat for 10 or 12 minutes.
Later, he removed what looked like smoked chicken breasts. What surprises
and concerns me are:
1) No wood chips. Where does the smoke flavor come from?
2) About 5 or 10 years ago, I remember hearing that carmel color
(obtained by caramelizing sugar -- a common coloring and flavoring
agent) had been found to be carcinogenic. I believe they injected
it under the skin of rats, or something. If the results were conclusive,
caramel color would not be legal in the U.S., yet it is still being
used. Was the initial research result found to be incorrect, or what?
3) About 5 or 10 years ago, I remember Earl Grey tea being implicated
as carcinogenic, because it contains oil of bergamot (an extract
from the skin of a type of citrus fruit). Does anyone know whatever
happened with that story? If it were carcinogenic, Earl Grey tea
could not have it as an additive, yet it apparently continues to do
so.
WRT natural wood smoke (I've smoking a duck right now, as it happens),
I've noticed that a heavily-smoked food item will have an unpleasant tangy
taste when eaten directly out of the smoker if the smoke has only recently
stopped flowing. I find the best taste to be had by using dry wood chips,
getting lots of smoke right up at the beginning of the cooking process,
then slowly barbequing for hours and hours without adding additional wood chips.
My theory is that the unpleasant tangy molecules are low-molecular weight
stuff, like terpenes, and that the smoky flavor molecules are some sort
of larger molecule more similar to tar. The long barbeque time after
the initial intensive smoke drives off the low-molecular weight stuff,
just leaving the flavor behind. Does anyone know if my theory is correct?
I also remember hearing that the combustion products of fat dripping
on the charcoal and burning are carcinogenic. For that reason, and because
it covers the product with soot and some unpleasant tanginess, I only grill
non-drippy meats like prawns directly over hot coals. I do stuff like this
duck by indirect heat. I have a long rectangular Weber, and I put the coals
at one end and the meat at the other end. The fat drops directly on the
floor below the meat, and next time I use the barbeque I make the fire
in that end to burn off the fat and help ignite the coals.
And yet another reason I've heard not to smoke or barbeque meat is that
smoked cured meat, like pork sausage and bacon, contains
nitrosamines, which are carcinogenic. I'm pretty sure this claim actually
has some standing, don't know about the others. | sci.med | [
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10 month old stereo system for sale. Luxman R-351 receiver, Onkyo TA-RW404
tape deck, and Polk Monitor M4.6 book shelf speakers are for sale. Receiver
has 5 year warranty, and all equipment is in excellent condition. Paid $950
for the system and willing to consider the best offer. Will sell seperate
pieces also if desired. Please send best offer to [email protected].
Speakers: Polk Monitor M4.6 bookshelf speakers
Paid $250 pair. Willing to consider best offer.
Receiver: Luxman R-351 receiver with 5 year (yes 5 years) warranty.
Paid $475. Willing to consider best offer.
Full remote, 2 pairs of speaker connections,
60 watts per channel, but drives like a 150 watts per channel
Has all the standard features, and more.
Tape Deck: Onkyo TA-RW404 tape deck
Paid $275. Willing to consider best offer.
Dual cassette, Dolby B, C, and HX Pro.
Input level control for recording, auto reverse both sides.
Has all standard features.
Send E-mail with best offer to [email protected] | misc.forsale | [
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Bobby, there's a question here that I just HAVE to ask. If all
of your posts aren't some sort of extended, elaborate hoax, why
are you trying so hard to convince the entire civilised world
that you're feeble minded? You have a talent for saying the most
absurd things. Here's a little sign for you, print it, cut it out
and put it on top of your computer/terminal.
ENGAGE BRAIN PRIOR TO OPERATING KEYBOARD
(Having said all that, I must admit we all get a laugh from
your stuff.)
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[...deletions...]
An "Islamic Bank" is something which operates in a different fashion to
your modern bank, as I have explained here (on another thread) before.
For example, Islamic banks don't pay fixed interests on deposits, but a
return on investments (which varies according to the market, and is not
fixed like interest is).
Islamic banks are a relatively new phenomenon in the Islamic world.
There are no Islamic banks in "the West", including the USA, to my
knowledge. I doubt if the market for them exists there -- at least not
while "Islamic banks" are at a relatively early stage of their
development as is the case now. BCCI is most certainly not an "Islamic
bank" -- did BCCI ever pay a fixed interest rate on deposits? If the
answer to this question is "yes", then BCCI was not an Islamic bank, as
Islamic banks are specifically set up to _not_ pay or charge interest.
Whether some Muslims partially owned the bank or whatever is completely
irrelevant. | alt.atheism | [
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And who was it that insisted sidestand cutout switches were right up
there with tachometers, something like a curse from God?
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I think all connections in Norway can handle touchtone dialing.
The Oslo-region has one system, the rest of the country another system.
(Almost right for pulsdialing.)
Some phones have a little switch inside, so you are able to use them
all over Norway, or you can just renumber the numbers on your phone.
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This is a very impotant update, I will omit just a few lines, and add
some "overhead" for the sake of the copyright :-)
I say despite all the bad news for Muslims around the world, things are
shaping up very well, a lot of killings might happen in the near future,
though (as if Bosnia is not a lot).
Right now, I feel like saying what Martillo said : "the stage is set".
I don't think that things will be the same in ten year,
On the pessimistic/realistic side, we can only see the stage set for more
wars imposed on our people, and governments being remote controlled.
to fight each other and to oppress their own people, but I am confident
they will all fall:
I venture to list the order: Sudan/Yemen alliance, Algeria/Libya in 5 years,
Tunisia one year later but Egypt may face direct colonization very soon to
prevent an Islamic government which might take over after Egypt attacks
SUdan and is envolved in atrocities there as it fails to achieve
victory. Meanwhile Saudia faces a civil war and goes to war
with Yemen/Sudan over it, The new North African
Alliance (Algeria/Tun/Libya) goes to war with Morocco who attacks it.
U.S/France involved everywhere but cannot concentrate on one place,
especially that Syria/Jordan/Iraq have to be kept under control.
After the cloud clears, I do not know what the end result will be,
O.K back to reality:
CAIRO, Egypt (UPI) -- The Cairo-based Arab Organization for Human
Rights (AOHR) Sunday called on King Fahd of Saudi Arabia to order the
release of members of the kingdom's first human rights group. | talk.politics.mideast | [
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Last night I had a dream that my dad bought a Viper.
I took it out for a test drive, without his knowledge,
and had to push it all the way home just to avoid a ticket.
Wierd dream, I wonder what it means.... | rec.autos | [
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Several years back one of the radar detectors manufacturers, in
defiance to Virginia's law against radar detectors, passed out
thousands of fake cardboard radar detectors at truck stops near
the Virginia State lines. At that time there were no radar
detector Detectors! I am not sure of the impact but I would
imagine that enforcement of the law by visually sighting a
radar detector became difficult - if not impossible!
As I said earlier, efforts to throw out or eliminate the VA law
against radar detectors has been in vain. In fact, effective
Jan. 1, 1993, the fine for possession of a radar detector
accessable to the driver of a vehicle in VA is now $250.00.
I have noted an interesting anomality with my Alinco DR-100 2
meter ham transceiver.... It will make a *cheap* radar detector
scream! I am not sure of the range, but it is obvious by the
brake lights that it can be at least 50 feet at 50 watts! :-) | sci.electronics | [
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has any one heard of a sedative called "Rhoepnol"? Made by LaRouche,
I believe. Any info as to side effects or equivalent tranquillizers?
thanks....
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Ah, not in the USA. Thats a relief, thought 'reality' must be slipping for a
second. :-)
St Noam was on the radio tonight, he has just published a new book "501 years".
Published by South End i guess. Could some bostonian confirm please?
I would love to hear what he thinks of the Clipper scam.
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Precisely, why not Cuba?? Why not??? The Hatians are being ruled by thugs
and their elected leader has asked support to reestablish the peoples will. If
the U.S. or any other democracy wishes to, they are in the perfect right to
help them without any whining from thir parties. After all if it turns out to
be colonialism and the poeple don't like it, they' find a way to throw them out.
Who ever said people who commit genocide have the right to commit genocide??
I want a world where criminals agains humanity have no place to hide, while you
want special sovereignties designed to protect them. Nobody has the right to
commit crimes against humanity, and if they do they loose all right to self
determination. If this is classical colonialism, then so be it. | talk.politics.mideast | [
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: >
: >I think you're letting atheist mythology confuse you on the issue of
: (WEBSTER: myth: "a traditional or legendary story...
: ...a belief...whose truth is accepted uncritically.")
: How does that qualify?
: Indeed, it's almost oxymoronic...a rather amusing instance.
: I've found that most atheists hold almost no atheist-views as
: "accepted uncritically," especially the few that are legend.
: Many are trying to explain basic truths, as myths do, but
: they don't meet the other criterions.
Andrew,
The myth to which I refer is the convoluted counterfeit athiests have
created to make religion appear absurd. Rather than approach religion
(including Christainity) in a rational manner and debating its claims
-as the are stated-, atheists concoct outrageous parodies and then
hold the religious accountable for beliefs they don't have. What is
more accurately oxymoric is the a term like, reasonable atheist.
Bill
: >Divine justice. According to the most fundamental doctrines of
: >Christianity, When the first man sinned, he was at that time the
: You accuse him of referencing mythology, then you procede to
: launch your own xtian mythology. (This time meeting all the
: requirements of myth.)
Here's a good example of of what I said above. Read the post again, I
said, "Acoording to ...", which means I am referring to Christian
doctrine (as I understand it), if I am speaking for myself you'll know
it. My purpose in posting was to present a basic overview of Christain
doctrines since it seemed germane.
Bill
: >with those who pretend not to know what is being said and what it
: >means. When atheists claim that they do -not- know if God exists and
: >don't know what He wants, they contradict the Bible which clearly says
: >that -everyone- knows. The authority of the Bible is its claim to be
: ...should I repeat what I wrote above for the sake of getting
: it across? You may trust the Bible, but your trusting it doesn't
: make it any more credible to me.
: If the Bible says that everyone knows, that's clearly reason
: to doubt the Bible, because not everyone "knows" your alleged
: god's alleged existance.
Again I am paraphrasing Christian doctrine which is very clear on this
point, your dispute is not with me ...
Bill
: >refuted while the species-wide condemnation is justified. Those that
: >claim that there is no evidence for the existence of God or that His will is
: >unknown, must deliberately ignore the Bible; the ignorance itself is
: >no excuse.
: 1) No, they don't have to ignore the Bible. The Bible is far
: from universally accepted. The Bible is NOT a proof of god;
: it is only a proof that some people have thought that there
: was a god. (Or does it prove even that? They might have been
: writing it as series of fiction short-stories. As in the
: case of Dionetics.) Assuming the writers believed it, the
: only thing it could possibly prove is that they believed it.
: And that's ignoring the problem of whether or not all the
: interpretations and Biblical-philosophers were correct.
: 2) There are people who have truly never heard of the Bible.
: 3) Again, read the FAQ.
1) Here again you miss the point. The Bible itself is not the point,
it's what it contains. It makes no difference who accpets the Bible or
even who's unaware of its existence, Christians hold that it applies
universally because mankind shares the same nature and the same fate
and the same innate knowledge of God.
2) See above
3) If you read my post with same care as read the FAQ, we wouldn't be
having this conversation.
Bill
: >freedom. You are free to ignore God in the same way you are free to
: >ignore gravity and the consequences are inevitable and well known
: >in both cases. That an atheist can't accept the evidence means only
: Bzzt...wrong answer!
: Gravity is directly THERE. It doesn't stop exerting a direct and
: rationally undeniable influence if you ignore it. God, on the
: other hand, doesn't generally show up in the supermarket, except
: on the tabloids. God doesn't exert a rationally undeniable influence.
: Gravity is obvious; gods aren't.
As I said, the evidence is there, you just don't accept it, here at
least we agree.
Bill
: >Secondly, human reason is very comforatble with the concept of God, so
: >much so that it is, in itself, intrinsic to our nature. Human reason
: >always comes back to the question of God, in every generation and in
: No, human reason hasn't always come back to the existance of
: "God"; it has usually come back to the existance of "god".
: In other words, it doesn't generally come back to the xtian
: god, it comes back to whether there is any god. And, in much
: of oriental philosophic history, it generally doesn't pop up as
: the idea of a god so much as the question of what natural forces
: are and which ones are out there. From a world-wide view,
: human nature just makes us wonder how the universe came to
: be and/or what force(s) are currently in control. A natural
: tendancy to believe in "God" only exists in religious wishful
: thinking.
Yes, human reason does always come back to the existence of God, we're
having this discussion are we not?
Bill
: >I said all this to make the point that Christianity is eminently
: >reasonable, that Divine justice is just and human nature is much
: >different than what atheists think it is. Whether you agree or not
: YOU certainly are not correct on human nature. You are, at
: the least, basing your views on a completely eurocentric
: approach. Try looking at the outside world as well when
: you attempt to sum up all of humanity.
Well this is interesting, Truth is to be determined by it politically
correct content. Granted it's extremely unhip to be a WASP male, and
anything European is contemptable, but I thought this kind of
dialogue, the purpose of a.a, was to get at the truth of things. But
then I remember the oxymoron, reasonalble atheist, and I understand. | alt.atheism | [
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Read Issue #2 of Wired Magazine. It has a long article on the "hype" of
3DO. I've noticed that every article talks with the designers and how
"great" it is, but never show any pictures of the output (or at least
pictures that one can understand)
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I have a strange piece of equipment to unload. It is a Ether+ SCSI interface.
Apparently, it can be plugged into a SCSI port and from there to an ethernet.
That way you save a slot. Nifty. Well, I assume you people know more about it,
so, judging by the $350 price tag new, I'll ask, say, $75? Anybody interested?
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Posting this for a friend
Sunnyvale, California
1982 Porsche 928 GTS Package
leather interior
european handling package
sunroof
cruise control
88,000k miles
new paint
Immaculate in every way
********** DELIVERY POSSIBLE TO DESTINATION WITH DEPOSIT ********
$10,000 firm
Low book is 11,500 High book is 16,000
Phone (408) 296-4444 Frank Rosqui
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>By the way, news.announce.newusers has an article (can't remember which
>one) that recommends reading a newsgroup for 1 month before posting.
>This makes sense because you get an idea who the players are and what
>the current discussions are about.
>Am I the only one who followed that advice?
No, I spent a month just reading, too, mainly because I did not know
much about the way atheists think. I even printed out the FAQs and
discussed it with a friend before I started posting.
Alt.atheism deals with religious issues (more appropriately, lack of
religious beliefs), which are by their very nature very controversial.
It makes sense to read what is being discussed and how just to make
sure you are not repeating something others have said better.
Petri
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Can the Sabres win two more games against the Bruins?
I think game three in Buffalo will be the most important of the
series. If the Sabres lose that game, the party will be over. It will
be hello next year.
The key for the remaining games in the series will be whether Fuhr can
keep up his brillliant goaltending and if Mogilny can continue skate by
the Bruins. He has shown demonstrated excellent speed.
Finally, the Sabres appear to have shown up for the post season.
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'saving face' unless you are confusing
the FBI with the BATF who are the ones who were in charge of the
original search warrant.
Independant Negotiators? What was there to negotiate? Any sort of plea
bargin has to be brought to the court, the negotiators can't negotiate
charges or sentences. FBI negotitators did make a deal for the
Dividians to come out. Koresh showed he was not negotiating in good
faith and there is no reason to believe independent negotiators
would have done any better. | talk.religion.misc | [
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Speaking from experience, one doesn't need drugs to become disoriented
during hospital stays. I was in hosp for 5 days in late Jan; what with
general noise at all hours of night, staff coming every time I turned over,
or whatever, to check me out, I didn't get much sustained sleep at night.
Spent days groggy & dozing, and all it was from my perspective was that I
was TIRED! | sci.med | [
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Driving While Impared. It allows for prosecution of drivers under the
influence of a variety of drugs.
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Only problem is that Zombo was traded to St. Louis last year for goalie
Vincent Riendeau.
I think that while Chevy is not among the elite class of goalies, he is
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Gee, you'd think Winnipeg would be tops on that list, what with 8 regulars
being European.
Well, being a Jet fan, I sometimes wish that Bure would get knocked silly
too. (Nothing serious, just enough to keep him out of a game. :)
In most cases, the owners have very little to do with it. They give their
general managers one order when it comes to the draft...find me the best
players so that our team will win the Stanley Cup. Whether that player is
in Kindersley, Saskatchewan or Chelyabinsk, Russia, if the GM believes him
to be the better player, the GM should be drafting him.
Where do you get off calling the NHL THEIR league, when referring to Canadian
players. It doesn't belong to them, it belongs to the owners. The owners
can do what they want. While a 'Canadian content' rule might be enforcable
here in Canada, there is enough doubt that it would be enforcable in the US
that the CFL (sorry for the football reference) didn't even TRY to push their
import ratio rule on the Sacromento Goldminers.
Increasing the competition for the 'elite' positions, in most cases, would
make players better anyways. (Oh yeah, and how many Europeans play at the
lower levels of professional hockey in North America? While there are some
that play in the AHL, or the IHL where that's an NHL team's primary farm
club, you don't hear of many Europeans playing in the CHL, the ECHL, or on
the secondary farm teams in the IHL. (ie. the Jets do have a few Russian
players in Moncton, but I don't believe there are any Europeans in Ft. Wayne.))
So with all those teams, there are plenty of positions for hockey players
in North America.
I'm in favour of the NHL being the league for the premier players in the
world. I've grown up with Europeans playing on 'my' team, and some of those
players were the among the best in the world. From Hedberg, Nilsson, and
Sjoberg, to Sel{nne, Zhamnov, and Olausson, and all those in between and to
come, I wouldn't have it any other way. | rec.sport.hockey | [
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I would like to know about the current fax software available for
Windows. Does it take a 9600 baud fax/modem or 14.4K ? Please
respond with info.
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Those areas became states.
Puerto Rico has the population needed to become a state. But the ethnic
mix there is such that Puerto Rico will probably never become a state.
I say we cut them loose. If they don't want to become a state, we
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: Hi All,
: Would anyone out there in 'net-land' happen to have an
: authentic, sure-fire way of making this great sauce that
: is used to adorn Gyro's and Souvlaki?
: Thanks,
I have a receipe at home that was posted to me by one of our fellow
netters about a month ago. I am recalling this from memory but
I think I'm fairly close (by the way it was GREAT!)
1 pint of plain yogurt
1/2 med. sized cucumber finely shredded
3 cloves of garlic (more or less by taste)
1/4 tsp dill weed
The yogurt is dumped into a strainer lined with a coffee
filter and allowed to drain at least 2 hours (you can
adjust the consistancy of the sauce by increasing this time
up to 24 hours)
The shredded cuc is drained the same way
Mix it all together and let it steep for at least
2 hours (it's better the next day) and enjoy! | sci.med | [
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: This may be an FAQ (if so, please direct me to the known answer) but I
: am getting frustrated and looking for help.
:
: I am running Win 3.1 with NDW 2.2 on a 486sx with 8 meg of memory and a
: 6 meg perm swap file and am getting exceedingly frustrated that my
: applications are not giving back system resources when I close them.
:
I've noticed this also. The way it was explained to me is that Windows
does not clear the upper memory blocks after a program is done. Anyone
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Nonononnononono....its "From the Nile to the Nile.....the Long way!" ;-)
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If a six year old child does a funny trick and you say well done he will
do it again and it may be funny. Then they may repeat it over and over
again bu you still have to pretend its funny even though it isn't any
more. Once they are older than six you expect them to realise that doing
the same thing over and over again isn't funny any more.
Basicaly Ed fails to be amusing because he is merely crass. He does not
make jokes that have any political content beyond attempting to ridicule
their target. Calling someone Slick Willie is not funny even if you put
on a red nose while you say it, it was a good debating point used on the
spur of the moment 12 months ago but now its use merely demonstrates that the
user couldn't think of anything original to say.
In the UK there is a tradition of old retired Colnels who bore the dinner
guests rigid with their descriptions of old campagns. Ed is clearly one
of this type of people who fails to see when a joke is spent.
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But why McGwire, and not Carter? I can see some justification for Bonds or
Thomas, because they tend to have higher batting averages, but the major
difference I see between McGwire and Carter is that Carter doesn't draw
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Is there a Chicago Cubs mailing list?? If so, I'd like to join.
Any help appreciated....
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I thought Bill James' latest book completely and totally sucked. I bought
it, but will not purchase anything of his ever again without THOROUGHLY
looking at it first. What tripe.
The book is inconsistent, and filled with selective analysis. James
claims to be looking forward, and then makes some absolutely bizarre
statements of value. Not only that, but I got the impression he
probably glanced at the book for about an hour before he put his name
on it.
To say I was disappointed is a grand understatement.
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One of the candidates that has been suggested for a key registration
body is the ACLU. I think this is poor choice. The ACLU is
essentially a group of auditors: they audit how people's civil
liberties are administered. Traditionally, auditors do not like to get
involved in the design or operational aspects of things, and with good
reason.
When I was a systems programmer, it always infuriated me that the
auditors would come in and tell us our implementation stunk from a
security point of view, but wouldn't tell us how to fix it. I always
figured they just liked to critcize, without doing the work to help fix
the problem.
Then I took a stint as an auditor, and I found out the real reason.
Auditors don't like to recommend solutions, because it puts them in a
bad position if they have to criticize the implementation later. The
auditee can say, "Well, you told us this way would be OK." It
compromises the independence that is a necessary part of the auditor's
job.
Taking the case at hand, suppose ACLU becomes a key half registrar.
Suppose that, perhaps through some error on ACLU's part, a key half gets
away that shouldn't, and is used to deprive someone of her civil
liberties. The ACLU gets wind of this, and wants to take it to court.
But they end up being at the same time on the side of the defendant
and of the plaintiff, which is not an easy position to be in.
There are exceptions to the complete independence of auditors: at one
place where I worked, when payroll checks were printed, they were signed
automatically by a signature drum on the bursting machine. This drum
was kept by the auditors (who also kept the check stock), and
was brought down to Data Processing when it was time to do the checks.
I believe the difference between this situation and the key registration
situation is that it is fairly obvious when it is time to do the payroll
checks: if they were done yesterday, and someone wants to do them again
today, he better be able to produce yesterday's checks so that they can
be destroyed. Determining which of the many requests for key halves are
legit is a trickier process, one much more prone to mistakes that could
put the ACLU in a protecting-the-client versus protecting-the-ACLU
conflict of interest.
As always, my opinions are my own. | sci.crypt | [
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In fairness, we should note that if you look up "speculum" in the
dictionary (which I did when this question first surfaced), the first
definition is "a mirror or polished metal plate used as a reflector in
optical instruments."
Which doesn't mean the name fits in this context, but it's not as far
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Are there any vendors supporting pressure sensitive tablet/pen with X? I
will appreciate any pointers.
Thanks, Sanjay
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Depression can also have various chemical (environmental) components.
I noticed that I became depressed in various buildings, and at home
when the air conditioning was on. Subsequent testing revealed that
I was allergic to stemphyllium, a mold commonly found in air conditioners.
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conner peripherals has a 1-800 number with a touch-tone /voice response
data bank giving all the info.
if you call 1-800 directory assisatnce (1-800-555-1212) and ask for the
phone number of "conner peripherals," you should get what you need. | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware | [
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nobody seems to have noticed that the clipper chip *must* have been
under development for considerably longer than the 3 months that
clinton has been president. this is not something that choosing
choosing bush over clinton would have changed in the slightest; it has
been in the works for some time.
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3.5844614505767822
] |
Devorski unfortunately helped to taint an otherwise brilliant display
by MacLean. The Canucks tied up the Jets so tightly that I thought that
they were mailing them.
BTW, Greg...next time, don't fall asleep in geography class, it's pretty
sad when a fellow in Norway can spell Winnipeg properly and a guy in
North America can't.
One more thing...how LONG has Vancouver been in the NHL? How many
championships do they have?
Oh yeah...and I CAN go to the Arena and see not one, not two, but
*six* championship banners hanging from the rafters. 3 Stanley Cup
banners, and 3 Avco Cup banners. My NHL guide says that Vancouver has
won the Cup once (as many times as the rockin' town of Kenora has won it!) | rec.sport.hockey | [
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It just goes to show that not all evangelical fundamentalists are pharisitical!
I wear a black leather jacket, like classic rock, but no longer have the long
locks I once had. However, I too rely upon the Bible as a basis for Christian
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Try peeling the skin back at the base of your other fingernails
(not too hard, now, don't want to hurt yourself). You'll find
nice little lunulas there if you can peel it back enough.
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
[email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | sci.med | [
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Right. We'll probably end up giving them weapons.
During WWII, the British managed to supply arms to the Yugoslavs despite
German occupation. If the Europeans had the will to do anything besides
sponsoring peace conferences, they would have no problem putting any kind of
weapon they wanted into Bosnia.
I guess I would favor ending the embargo if the Congress would pass a law
forbidding export of US military supplies to Yugoslavia, including via third
parties. Until then the risks of the US being drawn into a more active
role would be too great. I do not see the arms embargo as a major factor in
the outcome of the war.
Both sides are certainly not equal in the eyes of the press. And that's
about all we have to go on, isn't it?
And I wish you'd quit hurling words like racist around. There are many levels
at which people react to what they see. At the most fundamental level, you
do not have to consciously recognize the racial element - you simply tend to
empathize more with people who are like yourself. As far preferring
Christian over Moslem, I am an atheist myself, and I think you'll agree that
in the US, the majority of people do not typically discriminate on the basis of
religion, nor give it a particularly important place in their world view.
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Sounds a little odd but I sold an Amiga hand scanner to
an elementary school teacher in south Florida (Miami, I
think) but I have just recently found that I still have
the scanner manual. The original shipment included the
software manual, disks, packaging, etc.
Basically, I have since lost the name & address of the
person I sold it to...and I would like to get it to him.
If that person sees this, please send me an email to:
[email protected]
thanx, and sorry for taking up net space. | misc.forsale | [
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No. The christians were leary of having an atheist spokesman
(seems so clandestine, and all that), so they had him removed. Of
course, Keith is busy explaining to his fellow captives how he
isn't really being persecuted, since (after all) they *are*
feeding him, and any resistance on his part would only be viewed
as trouble making.
I understand he did make a bit of a fuss when they tatooed "In God
We Trust" on his forehead, though.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Bob Beauchaine [email protected]
They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,
and sank Manhattan out at sea. | alt.atheism | [
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2.016409158706665
] |
Antihistamines have been the active ingredient of OTC sleep aids for
decades. Go to any drugstore and look at the packages of such sleep
aids as Sominex, Nytol, etc. The active ingredient is:
diphenhydramine, the same antihistamine that's in Benadryl.
--
Steven Litvintchouk
MITRE Corporation
202 Burlington Road
Bedford, MA 01730-1420 | sci.med | [
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Can anyone tell me the procedure for hooking a Personal Laserwriter NTR
serially to a mac? The documentation says it can be done, but I'm not sure of
the correct switch setting to use out of the given non-appletalk switch
options. Also, will I need to install a new driver so that the Chooser knows
the printer is hooked up directly (not networked)? | comp.sys.mac.hardware | [
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All right. Not saying I know any more than the average salesguy, I'll give
your question a shot.
The key issue that I bought my BJ-200 on was ink drying speed. You really
have to try awful hard to get the BJ-200 ink to smear. The HP DeskJets need
10-15 seconds to completely dry. In both cases, however, do not get your
pages wet. Unlike laser printers, the material on your pages is INK, not
toner. But that should go without saying.
My PC has very little memory (only 2Meg RAM), so the BJ-200 takes a little
while to print ----- but every application I use takes a while to run. Once
the computer is solely printing, it purs like a kitten and puts pages out
every 15-30 seconds, depending on how detailed your graphics are.
The BJ-200 can do Windows soft fonts. I'm assuming that the DeskJet can, or
HP wouldn't sell many......
Size is another factor. The BJ-200 is much smaller, but the HP is built
like a tank. I bet the BJ-200 would get damaged first.
Finally, the print quality. I LOVE the BJ-200's resolution. It looks like
a good laser quality print. The HP's I've used.....they look like ink. Not
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Alison J Wyld wrote to All:
AJW> Does anyone know of an English language edition that does not show the
AJW> verse (or even chapter) numbers.
[...]
clh> [The original NEB put verse numbers only in the margin [...]
Kenneth Wuest's expanded translation of the New Testament does the same - it puts the range of verse numbers next to the top of each paragraph. Being an expanded translation it is quite verbose though - more suitable for detailed study than for quick reading.
Mike
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What's the latest and greatest way to dim incandescent lamps ?
March '93 Circuit Cellar has part one of an article about
dimming 120VAC lamps, but it seems to lead into phase-
control as the best method for controlling brightness.
I've always hated phase-control for the RFI, buzzing
filaments and non-linear adjustment range. I had
heard that you can modulate the AC line on a cycle by
cycle basis to get better results. To cut the lamp's
power to 50% you would givemsay 20 cycles of AC, then
nothing for another 20 cycles. I wonder if anyone has
tried this or knows what the pro stuff is using. Any
advice is appreciated!
Ken
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Firstly, an aside:
I agree that the weakness exists, but I have a lot of trouble
believing that it represents a difficulty in real life. Given:
1. the purpose of the one-time pad is to give unbreakable security,
and the expense of key distribution etc., imply that the clients
really do want that level of security
2. These same people want to keep P a secret
I find it hard to believe that Eve might happen to have a copy of P
lying around.
(I am aware that the same argument applies to Eve knowing even a small
part of the message, but Eve must know EXACTLY where (which bytes) in
C her known susequence starts, or the result will be garbled. I find
this at least as surprising.)
Back to the question:
If I had the resources to use a one-time-pad for such transmissions, I
would also append a Message Authentication Code to the message, using up
the next bits of the one-time-pad as the key perhaps. Your original
question basically asked whether there was any way to authenticate the
message with the same degree of security as the Pad itself provided,
and I don't know the answer. However, I would propose the following
for discussion.
Alice and Bob have an arbitrary number of secret, random bits to
share, which Eve doesn't know. She finds them out (effectively) by
knowing some P and the corresponding C. It is the fact that they
CORRESPOND that causes the problem. If a message authentication code was to
be created using some one-time-pad operation such that Eve could not
know which parts of the MAC were affected by which parts of the input,
she would be unable to forge a MAC to correspond.
What is required is a non-linear combiner of parts of the message.
(Non-linear so that simply xoring or subtracting or whatever doesn't
have exactly the same effect).
Now, at the end of the encrypted message C, Alice appends a n-bit MAC
computed as follows (S2 means the next full chunk of the one time pad):
1. compute C2 = P xor S2, and pad to an n-bit boundary with more of S
2. break C2 into n-bit chunks
3. set MAC to 0 (initialisation vector)
4. for i in each chunk sequentially
set MAC = MAC NLOP C2[i]
At the end of this process MAC is the Message Authentication Code.
(Bob verifies the MAC in the obvious manner; he recovers the
plaintext P, then uses some more of his pad to reproduce the MAC in
the same manner.)
NLOP is the non-linear operator, and there is the rub. The simplest
non-linear operator I can think of is an S-box; that is, have a fixed
(even published) permutation of the n-bit integers, an indexable table
called Sbox, and use:
x NLOP y = x xor Sbox[y].
Practically speaking, I think this solves your problem, as Eve never
sees the intermediate output C2, and hence can't deduce S2 or perform any valid
substitution on it.
Also practically speaking, you want the MAC to be fairly large, say 32
bits, but you might not want a 4 gigabyte (say) S-box, so you might
work on 4 byte-sized S-boxes, but I think that is an irrelevant detail
for the discussion at hand.
Who will be first to point out my errors, or give me a pointer to some
literature? | sci.crypt | [
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About 50 people so far have asked, "Once the FBI gets your Clipper keys,
won't they be able to read all your future and past traffic?"
There has been no response from NIST, NSA, Ms. Denning, Mr. Hellman, or
anyone else who might be able to give us an authoritative answer.
This is troubling.
Didn't NSA think about this? Or is it a feature, and they thought we
wouldn't notice?
I would have thought that by now they would have responded with something
of the form, "Well, that won't be a problem because ...."
Very curious. | sci.crypt | [
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Money orders operate pretty much like checks, with both parties being
supposed to sign them. I assume you'd have to show the buy-back people
an ID, and you'd then have a money order made out to that ID.
As far as traceable as a practical matter, I don't know, it would
depend on whether they bother to computerize who the recipient's name is
on the money order and bother keying that sort of thing in. I'd say
certainly the police and the buyback people would keep a record of who
they gave money orders out to.
There might be some questions asked, I suppose, if somebody
brought in a number of weapons each time over a series of "buy back"
programs.
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Disclaimer -- This is for fun.
In my computerized baseball game, I keep track of a category called
"stolen hits", defined as a play made that "an average fielder would not
make with average effort." Using the 1992 Defensive Averages posted
by Sherri Nichols (Thanks Sherri!), I've figured out some defensive stats
for the leftfielders. Hits Stolen have been redefined as "Plays Kevin
Bass would not have made."
OK, I realize that's unfair. Kevin's probably the victim of pitching staff,
fluke shots, and a monster park factor. But let's put it this way: If we
replaced every leftfielder in the league with someone with Kevin's 49.4% out
making ability, how many extra hits would go by?
To try and correlate it to reality a little more, I've calculated Net
Hits Stolen, based on the number of outs made compared to what a league
average fielder would make. By the same method I've calculated Net Extra
Bases (doubles and triples let by).
Finally, I throw all this into a a formula I call Defensive Contribution, or
DCON :->. Basically, it represents the defensive contribution of a player.
I add this number to OPS to get DOPS (Defense + Onbase Plus Slug), which
should represent the player's total contribution to the team. So don't
take it too seriously. The formula for DCON appears at the end of this
article.
The short version -- definition of terms
HS -- Hits Stolen -- Extra outs compared to Kurt Stillwell
NHS -- Net Hits Stolen -- Extra outs compared to average fielder
NDP -- Net Double Plays -- Extra double plays turned compared to avg fielder
NEB -- Net Extra Bases -- Extra bases prevented compared to avg. fielder
DCON -- Defensive Contribution -- bases and hits prevented, as a rate.
DOPS -- DCON + OPS -- quick & dirty measure of player's total contribution.
National League
Name HS NHS NEB DCON DOPS
Gonzalez, L. 63 28 20 .192 .866
Gilkey, B. 52 23 14 .150 .941
Clark, G. 46 11 11 .065 .726
Alou, M. 20 3 12 .052 .835
Bonds, B. 54 9 -7 .019 1.099
May, D. 21 0 -7 -.020 .659
Gant, R. 31 -5 -2 -.021 .715
Bass, K. 0 -24 -4 -.126 .600
Ordered by DOPS
1.099 Bonds
.941 Gilkey
.866 Gonzalez
.835 Alou
.726 Clark
.718 *NL Average*
.715 Gant
.659 May
.600 Bass
American League
---------------
Name HS NHS NEB DCON DOPS
Raines, T. 53 22 20 .111 .896
Anderson, B. 65 30 8 .102 .924
Henderson, R. 43 20 4 .101 .984
Vaughn, G. 55 27 -3 .095 .817
Gladden, D. 25 4 8 .038 .699
Hall, M. 29 6 -2 .017 .756
Mack, S. 38 6 -8 .005 .866
Polonia, L. 10 -11 10 -.019 .647
McReynolds, K. 13 -8 -9 -.064 .711
Maldanado, C. 9 -21 -12 -.105 .714
Reimer, K. 5 -18 -16 -.102 .671
Order by DOPS
.984 Henderson
.924 Anderson
.896 Raines
.866 Mack
.817 Vaughn
.756 Hall
.733 *AL Average*
.714 Maldanado
.711 McReynolds
.699 Gladden
.671 Reimer
.647 Polonia
More discussion --
DCON formula: ((NHS + NDP)/PA) + ((NHS + NDP + NEB)/AB)
Why such a bizzare formula? Basically, it's designed to be added into the
OPS, with the idea that "a run prevented is as important as a run scored".
The extra outs are factored into OBP, while the extra bases removed are
factored into SLG. That's why I used PA and AB as the divisors.
For more discussion see the post on Hits Stolen -- First Base 1992
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| ([email protected]) |*| Baseball fanatic | rec.sport.baseball | [
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...
This is a common misconception, shared my many manufacturers, programmers,
and users alike. COM3, for example, is simply the third equipped COMM
port, not necessarily the one with I/O address 3E8. The BIOS just
searches sequentially through a set of potential COMM port addresses. The
first equipped port it finds will become COM1, etc. If you're playing by
the rules, you can't have a COM4 unless you have a COM3 equipped. The set
of "standard" (whatever that means) port addresses merely reflects the
order in which the BIOS searches the I/O address space in its search for
serial ports.
So, what you have is indeed COM3 at the non-standard address 2E8. Were
this address in the 4th table slot instead, programs which query the BIOS
to determine the number of installed COMM ports would not find it, as the
field in the BIOS data area which contains this number would indicate that
there are but 3 COMM ports installed. (Frankly, I don't know of a simgle
program that would actually have a problem with this.)
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This is probably a stupid question but as I am new to the motorcycle scene
I don't really know anything about it. What is DoD?
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It just received FDA approval a few months ago. I have a
prescription which I haven't had to use yet. I believe the
company [Glaxol] is developing an oral form. At this stage, one
must inject the drug into one's muscle. The doctor said that
within 30 minutes, the migraine is gone for good!
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dale> I found an oddity with our SGI Indigo (MIPS R3000 chip).
dale> When xlock +nolock is running, and I am working remotely
dale> or in batch (at) mode, the runtime of my programs (as timed
dale> by using clock() in the code itself) is ~25% slower than if
dale> xlock is NOT running. No other processes seem to affect my
dale> runtimes, yet this is very consistent!
Unless you run `xlock -mode blank`, xlock consumes CPU time generating
the nice animated display. The code you are running is competing with
xlock for the CPU. If you run top (via a remote login), you can really
see what is going on.
=-=-=
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I got the univesa driver available over the net. I thought that finally
my 1-meg oak board would be able to show 680x1024 256 colors. Unfortunately a
program still says that I can't do this. Is it the fault of the program (fractint)
or is there something wrong with my card.
univesa- a free driver available over the net that makes many boards
vesa compatible.
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When I use telix (or kermit) in WIN 3.1, or use telix after exiting windows
to dos, telix can not find the serial port. If you have some ideas on how
to solve this problem or where I can find further information, send me email
or send it to the news group. Thanks.
Dale Erickson
[email protected] | comp.os.ms-windows.misc | [
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I have a Gateway 4dx2/66v. Does anyone know if I csn (or can't)
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Archive-name: ripem/faq
Last-update: 31 Mar 93 22:00:00 -0500
ABOUT THIS POSTING
------------------
This is a listing of likely questions and information about RIPEM, a
program for public key mail encryption. It (this FAQ, not RIPEM) was
written and will be maintained by Marc VanHeyningen
<[email protected]>. It will be posted to a variety of
newsgroups on a monthly basis; follow-up discussion specific to RIPEM
is redirected to the group alt.security.ripem.
WHAT'S NEW
----------
I am now running a World Wide Web archive of RIPEM information. It
does not contain much of anything that isn't available elsewhere, but
it has convenient pointers to the most current version of this FAQ and
some other stuff. The URL is "http://cs.indiana.edu/ripem/dir.html".
This month's version has a fair amount of new pointers to information
on patents and stuff like that. I've also reordered a few things to
have a more sensible ordering. I hope I don't have to edit this again
soon. :-)
DISCLAIMER
----------
Nothing in this FAQ should be considered legal advice, or anything
other than one layperson's opinion. If you want real legal advice,
talk to a real lawyer, preferably one with experience in patent law,
export regulations, or whatever area of law is in question.
LIST OF QUESTIONS
-----------------
1) What is RIPEM?
2) How can I get RIPEM?
3) Will RIPEM run on my machine?
4) Will RIPEM work with my mailer?
5) What is RSA?
6) What is DES?
7) What is a fingerprint, like MD5?
8) What is PEM?
9) What's this about distributing and authenticating keys?
10) Isn't it a bad idea to use patented algorithms in standards like PEM?
11) What about RSADSI/PKP?
12) Why do all RIPEM public keys look very similar?
13) What is PGP?
14) What about RPEM?
15) What is MIME?
16) What is TIS/PEM?
17) I have this simple way to defeat the security of RIPEM...
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
---------------------
1) What is RIPEM?
RIPEM is a (not yet complete, but useful) implementation of Privacy
Enhanced Mail (PEM). RIPEM allows your electronic mail to have the
four security facilities provided by PEM: disclosure protection
(optional), originator authenticity, message integrity measures, and
non-repudiation of origin (always). (See: "What is PEM?")
RIPEM was written primarily by Mark Riordan <[email protected]>.
Most of the code is in the public domain, except for the RSA routines,
which are a library called RSAREF licensed from RSA Data Security Inc.
The current version of RIPEM is 1.0.5; the current version of the
Macintosh port of RIPEM is 0.7.
2) How can I get RIPEM?
RIPEM uses the library of cryptographic routines RSAREF, which is
considered munitions and thus is export-restricted from distribution
to persons who are not citizens or permanent residents in the U.S or
Canada without an export license. No such license has been obtained
(nor would one likely be granted unless the RSA key exchange were
shortened to 512 bits and the symmetric cipher changed to something
weaker than DES. There are some suggestions that this situation may
change now that Clinton is in office.) The author requests in the
README file that this law not be violated:
#Please do not export the cryptographic code in this distribution
#outside of the USA or Canada. This is a personal request from me,
#the author of RIPEM, and a condition of your use of RIPEM.
Note that RSAREF is not in the public domain, and a license for it is
included with the distribution. You should read it before using
RIPEM.
RIPEM is available via anonymous FTP to citizens and permanent
residents in the U.S. from rsa.com; cd to rsaref/ and read the README
file for info. Note that the non-RSAREF portion of RIPEM is not a
product of RSA Data Security, Incorporated; they merely are helping
distribute it.
RIPEM, as well as some other crypt stuff, has its "home site" on
ripem.msu.edu, which is open to non-anonymous FTP for users in the
U.S. and Canada who are citizens or permanent residents. To find out
how to obtain access, FTP there, cd to pub/crypt/, and read the file
GETTING_ACCESS. For convenience, binaries for many architectures are
available here in addition to the full source tree.
3) Will RIPEM run on my machine?
Probably. It has already been ported to MS-DOS and most flavors of
Unix (SunOS, NeXT, Linux, AIX, ULTRIX, Solaris, etc.) Ports to
Macintosh include a standard UNIX-style port and a rather nice
Mac-like port written by Raymond Lau, author of StuffIt. More ports
are expected, and help of users is invited.
4) Will RIPEM work with my mailer?
Probably. How easy and clean the effective interface is will depend
on the sophistication and modularity of the mailer, though. The users
guide, included with the distribution, discusses ways to use RIPEM
with many popular mailers, including Berkeley, mush, Elm, and MH.
Code is also included in elisp to allow easy use of RIPEM inside GNU
Emacs.
If you make a new interface for RIPEM or create an improvement on one
in the distribution which you believe is convenient to use, secure,
and may be useful to others, feel free to post it to alt.security.ripem.
5) What is RSA?
RSA is a crypto system which is asymmetric, or public-key. This means
that there are two different, related keys: one to encrypt and one to
decrypt. Because one cannot (reasonably) be derived from the other,
you may publish your encryption, or public, key widely and keep your
decryption, or private, key to yourself. Anyone can use your public
key to encrypt a message, but only you hold the private key needed to
decrypt it. Note that the "message" sent with RSA is normally just
the DES key to the real plaintext. (See "What is DES?")
Note that the above only provides for disclosure protection. For
originator authenticity, message integrity, and non-repudiation of
origin services to be implemented, the fingerprint of the message
(See "What is a fingerprint, like MD5?") is encrypted with the
sender's private key. The recipient, or a dispute-resolving
authority, can use the sender's public key to decrypt it and confirm
that the message must have come from the sender and was not altered.
RSA was named for the three men (Rivest, Shamir and Adleman) who
invented it. To find out lots more about RSA and modern cryptography
in general, ftp to rsa.com and look in pub/faq/. Some information
also may be in sci.crypt.
6) What is DES?
DES is the Data Encryption Standard, a widely used symmetric, or
secret-key, crypto system. Unlike RSA, DES uses the same key to
encrypt and decrypt messages. However, DES is much faster than RSA.
RIPEM uses both DES and RSA; it generates a random key and encrypts
your mail with DES using that key. It then encrypts that key with the
recipient's public RSA key and includes the result in the letter,
allowing the recipient to recover the DES key.
DES is sometimes considered weak because it is somewhat old and uses a
key length considered too short by modern standards. However, it
should be reasonably safe against an opponent smaller than a large
corporation or government agency. It is not likely that the PEM
standard will incorporate support for other symmetric ciphers in the
near future, because there is a strong feeling that PEM should be
stable so it can become utilized widely without early problems with
interoperability.
7) What is a fingerprint, like MD5?
MD5 is a message digest algorithm produced by RSA Data Security Inc.
It provides a 128-bit fingerprint, or cryptographically secure hash,
of the plaintext. It is cryptographically secure because it is not
possible (in a reasonable amount of computation) to produce a
different plaintext which produces the same fingerprint. Thus,
instead of signing the entire message with the sender's private key,
only the MD5 of the message needs to be signed for authentication.
MD5s can also be exchanged directly for authentication; for example,
RIPEM public keys include an MD5 of the public key in the file, so
parties wishing to confirm their keys are authentic via a separate
channel merely need exchange MD5s of keys and verify their accuracy.
MD5 is sometimes used for other purposes; for example, it is often
used to map an input of arbitrary length to 128 bits of data, as a
passphrase interpreter or cookie generator.
MD5 is described in its entirety (including an implementation in C) in
RFC 1321.
There have been some recent suggestions that MD5 may not be as strong
a hash as was originally believed; presumably some other hash
function will be used if this is accepted as true.
8) What is PEM?
PEM is Privacy Enhanced Mail, a standard for allowing transfer of
encrypted electronic mail generated over a long period of time by a
working group of experts. It is described in RFCs 1421-1424; these
documents have been approved and obsolete the old RFCs 1113-1115.
RIPEM is not really a complete implementation of PEM, because PEM
specifies certificates for authenticating keys, which RIPEM does not
handle at this time. Their addition is planned.
9) What's this about distributing and authenticating keys?
For a remote user to be able to send secure mail to you, she must know
your public key. For you to be able to confirm that the message
received came from her, you must know her public key. It is important
that this information be accurate; if a "bad guy" convinces her that
his key is in fact yours, she will send messages which he can read.
RIPEM allows for three methods of key management: a central server,
the distributed finger servers, and a flat file. All three are
described in the RIPEM users guide which is part of the distribution.
None of them provide perfect security. The PEM standard calls for
key management by certificates; the addition of this feature to RIPEM
is planned, but chicken-egg issues still exist.
10) Isn't it a bad idea to use patented algorithms in standards like PEM?
This issue has been considered in the standards process. RFC 1310,
the specification for Internet standards, has a discussion (section
6) on what specifications for nondiscriminatory availability must be
met for a patented method to be included in a standard. RFC 1421
addresses this issue with regard to the patents covering public-key
cryptography.
This does not, of course, mean that all questions are settled or that
everyone is in agreement. An interesting exchange on the use of
patented algorithms in standards with regard to public-key
cryptography is in the League for Programming Freedom archive
(available via FTP: ftp.uu.net:/doc/lpf) in the files bidzos.letter
and bidzos.response. (Amusingly, the LPF files on ftp.uu.net are
compressed with a patented algorithm.)
11) What about RSADSI/PKP?
RSA Data Security, Inc. (RSADSI) is a California-based company
specializing in cryptographic technologies. Public Key Partners is a
firm which holds exclusive sub-licensing rights of the following U.S.
patents and all of their corresponding foreign patents:
Cryptographic Apparatus and Method
("Diffie-Hellman")............................... No. 4,200,770
Public Key Cryptographic Apparatus
and Method ("Hellman-Merkle").................... No. 4,218,582
Cryptographic Communications System and
Method ("RSA")................................... No. 4,405,829
Exponential Cryptographic Apparatus
and Method ("Hellman-Pohlig").................... No. 4,424,414
PKP claims these four patents cover all known methods of public key
cryptography. The two businesses are rather closely related (for
example, the same person, Jim Bidzos, is president of both of them.)
PKP has licensed this technology to a considerable number of
companies (IBM, DEC, Motorola, AT&T, Lotus...) for use in their
products. PKP has also threatened and filed lawsuits defending their
patents.
RIPEM was originally created with no connection to RSADSI other than
its use of the RSAREF library, and for no reason other than its
author's desire to see widespread use of public-key cryptography.
However, after the ball started rolling, people at RSADSI got
interested. RSADSI decided to carry RIPEM on its FTP site, and some
people there started making their own RIPEM keys and contributing
code. RIPEM even won the "Best Application Built on RSAREF in 1992"
award.
12) Why do all RIPEM public keys look very similar?
RIPEM public keys begin with a PKCS (Public-Key Cryptography
Standards) identifier describing various characteristics about the
key, so the first bunch of characters in your key may be the same as
those of lots of other people's keys. This does not mean your keys
are similar, but only that they are the same class of key, were
generated with the same program, are of the same length, etc.
13) What is PGP?
PGP is another cryptographic mail program called Pretty Good Privacy.
PGP has been around longer than RIPEM, and works somewhat differently.
PGP is not compatible with RIPEM in any way, though PGP does also use RSA.
A few major differences between PGP and RIPEM:
- PGP has more key management features, particularly for users without
a direct network connection.
- RIPEM conforms to the PEM RFCs and thus has a greater probability
of working with other PEM software. PGP makes no attempt to be
compatible with anything other than itself.
- RIPEM uses RSAREF, a library of RSA routines from RSADSI which
comes with a license allowing noncommercial use. PGP uses its own
implementation of RSA. PKP claims that it is a violation of its
patents to "make, use or sell" PGP in the U.S. or Canada without
either a license or written permission. (See: "DISCLAIMER")
(See: "What about RSADSI/PKP?") Phil Zimmermann, the author of
PGP, stopped distributing it after being threatened with legal
action; he believed that a licensing scheme could be arranged, but
it hasn't happened and there seems little prospect of it happening
in the future. He acknowledges in the PGP User's Guide:
#In fact, if you live in the USA, and you are not a Federal agency,
#you shouldn't actually run PGP on your computer, because Public
#Key Partners wants to forbid you from running my software. PGP is
#contraband.
- Both PGP and RIPEM are export-restricted, and cannot be sent outside
the U.S. and Canada without an export license. However, PGP
already exists on many ftp sites in Europe and other places.
Whether you use PGP or RIPEM or whatever, the documentation to PGP is
recommended reading to anyone interested in such issues.
Unfortunately, it's not distributed separately from the program,
which can be difficult to find in the U.S. on FTP sites due to
liability concerns.
14) What about RPEM?
RPEM stands for Rabin Privacy Enhanced Mail. It was similar to RIPEM,
but used a public-key cipher invented by Rabin (which is not RSA) in
an attempt to avoid the patents on public-key systems. It was
written by Mark Riordan, who later wrote RIPEM.
Its distribution was halted when, contrary to the beliefs of many
(including Rabin), PKP claimed that their patents were broad enough
to cover the cipher employed. This claim is not universally
accepted, but was not challenged for pragmatic reasons.
RPEM is not really used anymore. It is not compatible with RIPEM or PGP.
15) What is MIME?
MIME stands for Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions, and is
described in RFC 1341. You can find out about it in the newsgroup
comp.mail.mime; a FAQ exists on it. How PEM should interact with
MIME is not yet entirely clear; some people use the stopgap solution
of having a MIME type application/x-ripem in order to send RIPEM
messages as MIME ones. I hope some standards will emerge. Draft
Internet documents exist on the matter.
16) What is TIS/PEM?
Trusted Information Systems is working on a version of Privacy
Enhanced Mail for general availability. Last I heard, it was
rumored to be integrated into an existing mail user agent (MH)
rather than a stand-alone system, and in beta test. I don't know
much more than that.
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You talking bout the same Noemi I know? She makes me think of big bore
hand guns and extreme weirdness. This babe rode a CSR300 across the desert! And
a borrowed XL100 on the Death Ride. Don't fuck with her man, your making a big
mistake.
--
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Has someone a list of CD-ROM's with no SCSI-Interface and if known
how much they are present in the market.
Please mail direcktly as I am not reguarly reading the group.
I'll post a summary if wanted.
Thanks
Ihno
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Geez, I think some of these people have been too long on the net,
you are not going to convince anyone of anything through violent
language, one wonders why so many have violent tounges...
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4.787092208862305,
0.3452874422073364
] |
I believe it is illegal to send any cryptographic code out of the country
without an export license. (Others will correct me if this is inaccurate.)
Dunno if you'd get one for the particular code you have; the only way to
find out is to apply for a license.
Note that you need to distinguish between what is legal to send to Canada if
YOU have such a license, and what is legal to send if you don't.
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Yesterday, I went to the Boeing shareholders meeting. It was a bit shorter
than I expected. Last year (when the stock was first down), they made a big
presentation on the 777, and other programs. This year, it was much more
bare-bones.
In any case, I wanted to ask a question that the board of directors would
hear, and so I got there early, and figured that If I didn't get to the mike,
maybe they would read mine off of a card, and so I wrote it down, and handed it
in.
After the meeting started, Mr. Shrontz said that he would only answer written
questions, in order to be fair to the people in the overflow room that only
had monitors downstairs. Naturally, I was crushed.
So, when question and answer time came, I was suprised to find my question
being read and answered. Admittedly near the end of the ones that he took.
Presumably getting there early, and getting the question in early made all
the difference.
So, on to the substance. The question was
Is Boeing looking at anything BEYOND the high speed Civil Transport, such
as a commercial space launch system, and if not, how will Boeing compete
with the reusable single stage to orbit technology presently being developed
by Mcdonnell Douglass?
Well, he read it without a hitch, and without editing, with impressed me,
then he answered it very quickly treating it as a two part question, last
part first.
This is to the best of my recollection what he said.
As far as single stage to orbit technology, we think that we have a better
answer in a two stage approach, and we are talking to some of our customers
about that. As far as commercialization, that is a long ways off. The High
speed Civil Transport is about as far out as our commercial planning goes at
this point.
So, this tells me that Boeing still considers space to be a non-commercial
arena, and for the most part this is true, however it also tells me that
they consider there to be enough money in building space launchers for them
to persue work on their own.
Now, I do have a friend on the spacelifter program at boeing. Actually,
this is a mis-nomer, as there is no spacelifter contract for the work that this
guy is doing, however, he is doing work in preparation of a proposal for space
lifter contracts. He won't tell me what he is doing, but maybe this is where
the TSTO action is taking place at boeing. At the very minimum, the chairman
of the board of boeing said that they have an approach in mind, and they are
trying to do something with it.
Anybody know anything further?
Is this really news?
Does this threaten further work on DC-? ? | sci.space | [
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I'm also interested in such a program. But most of all I'd like to know
wich program is able to convert GIF or PCX to DXF !!! When I have this
program, I can scan pictures and frase (or something like that !) them.
This will be beyond the limit !!! | comp.graphics | [
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This seems a strange argument to make considering that Canada's
violent crime rate in general is far lower than that of the U.S. (Our
non-gun crime rate is greater than their *entire* crime rate). It
would seem strange to suggest that it, to, were the result of gun
control laws.
I think if we looked we'd find very specific (cultural and
enforcement) reasons why the non-gun rate is low as well, and then
that reasons could be applied to the with-gun rates as easily.
Aside from the fact that I find the idea of being punished
because somebody might steal something from me and go and commit a
crime with it a silly solution, it still doesn't address the
question of Canada. (Which is now, by the way, blaming their rising
gun-crime rate on the U.S. Strange that the border used to "magically"
keep the guns out, but now isn't.)
The other side of the coin, of course, is that far "illegal drugs"
are purchases legally or stolen from people who purchase them legally.
I've still not been convinced that guns, a commodity which criminals
have shown their perfectly willing to pay for from illegal sources
(stolen either from police, military, or civilian) we wouldn't simply
see South American sources from which drugs come start smuggling guns as
well, since there's a thriving gun manufacturing industry down there.
And as was not pointed out in the study, but in critiques
of it, (two seperate articles by James Wright and David Kopel come
to mind) it was pointed out that the difference was *also* almost
entirely minority related. That is, the gun crime rate skyrocketed
for poor minorities (Blacks and Hispanics primarily) while when you
compared the white majority they were virutally identical.
The problem with the NEJM study was they compared minority vs.
non-minority percentages but failed to take into account the relative
conditions of those minorities. That there was an eqaul percentage of
nomn-whites was about as far as they went. They failed to take into
account that the non-whites in either city were not living in the
same conditions.
If the situation was entirely based on availability of guns,
then we'd expect that the white rates, the two groups which are
arguably fairly comparative in the two cities, would have a far
higher rate in Seattle. Yet the majority in Seattle is not only
not significantly higher when the minorities are excluded, but slightly
lower.
The point is, of course, that many of the U.S. "inner-city"
problems are not mirrored in Canada. As such if there is a condition
which is significantly different in Canada from the U.S., and violent
crime is highly correlated to that area, suggesting that gun control
is the source of Canada's low rate is highly questionable. (As one
Canadian pointed out on talk.politics.guns, Canada's major gun control
in 1978 did not result in either a reduction or a slowing of an increase
in violent crime rates, which have been rising steadily since. Apparently
they didn't even mirror the U.S.s very large drop of violent crime in
the early eighties.
True only to a certain extent. Take Washington D.C., where
gun control was instituted while it had crime problems true, but that
crime proceeded to explode afterwards. Similarly for New York.
The question is not simply a point in time where crime was high
or low. Did the gun control significantly and positively impact
violent crime. Since it's gone up in those areas, often faster than it
was going up before, you can't simply dismiss the high crime rate by
saying gun control was caused by it. Yes, gun control may be instituted
to deal with high crime. But if the crime is not positively impacted, you
can't continually say that that crime rate was entirely a cause of
that gun control, since much of that crime rate increased after gun control
was implemented, just as happened in Canada.
As would be expected if violent crime was generally independent
of gun control.
Would this be the laws which made manufacturers liable for what
others did with their guns, and suddenly the police found nobody would
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The last time we discussed homosexuality, I asked whether anyone could
identify any other act besides homosexual intercourse that the Bible
prohibited, but which might in some circumstances bring no apparent
harm to anyone. Put another way, the question is whether homosexual
intercourse is the only act that Christians are supposed to believe
is immoral solely on the basis that God says it is, with no insight
being offered as to *why* it is immoral. No one could answer my
question in either form from the Bible. (I did get an interesting
response based on Roman Catholic theology).
However, I think now that I can at least answer my first question.
Link Hudson pointed me to it in his recent comments about sleeping
with one's aunt. Incest is held to be immoral in every society,
that is, there are some degrees of relationship where marriage
(and thus, intercouse) is prohibited. The Bible is no exception.
The trouble is that it may be difficult to see *why* a particular
relationship qualifies as incestuous. Societies differ as to
how they define incest. Genetic reasons are sometimes offered, but
all the Biblical cases cannot be dealt with that way. Why can't
a man sleep with his step mother--assuming that his father is
dead and that he has "married" her? How does this case differ
from the *duty* to marry one's brother's childless wife.
Are these two cases parallel? Does the Bible prohibit some incestuous
marriages and homosexual marriages for the same reason, perhaps
that God knows they are not good for us and yet we are incapable
of understanding why.
P.S. Please don't bother writing me to tell me that I am a homophobe,
as some did last time. My mind is not made up on these questions.
You don't know whether I am homophobic or not. You don't
know me. To call me or anyone else a homophobe without knowing the
person may be as much an expression of bigotry as some homophobic
remarks. | soc.religion.christian | [
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Sorry for the repeat of this request, but does anyone know of a good
free/shareware program with which I can create ray-traces and save
them as bit-mapped files? (Of course if there is such a thing =)
Thanks in advance | comp.graphics | [
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##I strongly suggest that you look up a book called THE BIBLE, THE QURAN, AND
##SCIENCE by Maurice Baucaille, a French surgeon. It is not comprehensive,
##but, it is well researched. I imagine your library has it or can get it
##for you through interlibrary loan.
##
I shall try to get hold of it (when I have time to read of course :-)
##In short, Dr Baucaille began investigating the Bible because of pre-
##ceived scientific inaccuracies and inconsistencies. He assumed that
##some of the problems may have been caused by poor translations in by-
##gone days. So, he read what he could find in Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic.
##What he found was that the problems didn't go away, they got worse.
##Then, he decided to see if other religions had the same problems.
##So, he picked up the Holy Qur'an (in French) and found similar prob-
##lems, but not as many. SO, he applied the same logoic as he had
##with the Bible: he learned to read it in Arabic. The problems he
##had found with the French version went away in Arabic. He was unable
##to find a wealth of scientific statements in the Holy Qur'an, but,
##what he did find made sense with modern understanding. So, he
##investigated the Traditions (the hadith) to see what they had to
##say about science. they were filled with science problems; after
##all, they were contemporary narratives from a time which had, by
##pour standards, a primitive world view. His conclusion was that,
##while he was impressed that what little the Holy Qur'an had to
##say about science was accurate, he was far more impressed that the
##Holy Qur'an did not contain the same rampant errors evidenced in
##the Traditions. How would a man of 7th Century Arabia have known
##what *not to include* in the Holy Qur'an (assuming he had authored
##it)?
##
So in short the writer (or writers) of Quran decided to stay away from
science. (if you do not open your mouth, then you don't put you foot into
your mouth either).
But then if you say Quran does not talk much about science, then one can
not make claims (like Bobby does) that you have great science in Quran.
Basically I want to say that *none* of the religious texts are supposed to
be scientific treatises. So I am just requesting the theists to stop making
such wild claims.
--- Vinayak
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vinayak dutt
e-mail: [email protected]
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WHY!!! DC/Baltimore is one of the top media markets (=the only thing the NHL
seems to care about these days), they've been doing far better than the NBA
Bullets at the gate for the last five years. The team has been a perennial
contender and fan support has been good to excellent . . . Why should Pollin
move to city that's five times smaller but has as many teams in other pro
sports. I don't get it...
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Has anyone heard what game ESPN is showing tonight. They said they will
show whatever game means the most playoff-wise. I would assume this would
be the Blues-Tampa game or the Minnesota-Red Wings game... Anyone heard for
sure???
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Hey puppy, you are getting further around the bend every day. But
I wouldn't miss your adolescent ravings for the world, everyone
needs a good laugh now and then. :-)
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I have tried almost everything under the sun to get a null modem connection
between a Mac Duo 210 and a PC. I have used MacKermit and VersaTerm on
the Mac side. I have used Procomm, Kermit, and Softerm (on OS/2) on
the PC (or PS) side. I have used non-Hardware handshaking and hardware
ahdshaking cables. And know MY hands are shaking from the effort. Nothing
has allowed file transfers from the Mac to the PS.
In general, I can type back and forth with no trouble, but only if both sides
are set to speeds OVER 9600 baud. I cannot send files from the Mac to the
PS at all, and file transfers from the Duo to the PS are not possible.
When I do a straight ascii send, I can send from the PS to the Duo flawlessly.
I can send Binhex files this way quite fast, and I know that the
transmission is error free.
But straight ascii sent from the Mac to the PS is full of errors.
Unless, of course, I do text pacing so slow that it is like human
typing. (well, like 2-3 times faster than human typing).
I would like to hear from ANYONE who has been able to transfer files
from a Duo 210 to a PS via modem or null modem. If you can do it, please
tell me your EXACT combination of hardware and software. Obviously, I am
talking of a true serial port modem, not the express modem. Maybe some
kind soul with access to a modem and a Duo 210 can check this out for me.
Right now, I am of the opinion that it won't work at high speeds because
of the power interrupts on the Duo, and it won't work at low speeds
because of some crazy reason I don't understand.
Could I hear from someone attesting that they can really pump information
out the serial port of a Duo 210 fast? Like via a modem or via a
sys-ex dump?
Could anyone with a Duo help me out?? I am going absolutely INSANE.
I wanna know if the problem is MY Duo, or all Duo 210s, or all Duos,
or just me.
Yes, I have checked the cable 1,000,000 times. And not only can I type
back and forth, but Zterm alerts the users if s/he uses hardware handshaking
and CTS is down. So I know that hardware handshaking is working. And also,
According to Zterm port stats, the buffer never overflows.
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I am looking for shanghai, solitaire game with mahjongg tiles
for PC's. if you have a copy laying around, send email to:
[email protected]
thanks, | misc.forsale | [
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ya know that kind of funny cause I've seen Kariya on Campus
with a Sharks hat on.......
Pat Ellis
P.S. GO BRUINS GO UMAINE BLACK BEARS 42-1-2 NUMBER 1......
HOCKEY EAST REGULARS SEASON CHAMPIONS.....
HOCKEY EAST TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS>......
PAUL KARIYA, HOBEY BAKER AWARD WINNER.......
NCAA DIV. 1 HOCKEY TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am a little confused on all of the models of the 88-89 bonnevilles.
I have heard of the LE SE LSE SSE SSEI. Could someone tell me the
differences are far as features or performance. I am also curious to
know what the book value is for prefereably the 89 model. And how much
less than book value can you usually get them for. In other words how
much are they in demand this time of year. I have heard that the mid-spring
early summer is the best time to buy. | rec.autos | [
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This sounds like a VERY good thing to do.
I will now, whenever I don't have my handy-dandy automatic coin
fetcher/toll payer (Annette :-) with me.
Thanks for the tip.
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: As a new BMW owner I was thinking about signing up for the MOA, but
: right now it is beginning to look suspiciously like throwing money
: down a rathole.
i concur with this.
the politics and bickering going on has
ruined BMWMOA to me. because of the
politics and fighting, i'm i'm going to
let my current membership lapse when it's
up for renewal.
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You may have been emailed this, but the IIsi's power supply is not rated to
handle the GC board. Remember when the si came out and everyone complained
about it's power supply. This is one result of apple providing a low-cost
computer and I think they got a lot of flack for having a relatively high end
computer (at the time anyways) that couldn't even support their own video
board. Even if this isn't what is causing your problems, you might develop
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