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James Madison, Federalist Paper 41: "It has been urged and echoed, that the power ``to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States,'' amounts to an unlimited commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare... "No stronger proof could be given of the distress under which these writers labor for objections, than their stooping to such a misconstruction. Had no other enumeration or definition of the powers of the Congress been found in the Constitution, than the general expressions just cited, the authors of the objection might have had some color for it; ... But what color can the objection have, when a specification of the objects alluded to by these general terms immediately follows, and is not even separated by a longer pause than a semicolon? ... Nothing is more natural nor common than first to use a general phrase, and then to explain and qualify it by a recital of particulars. --
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I don't meant to defend Eric Molas- I find it somewhat annoying when someone pops up on alt.atheism to tell us all about his (usually atheistic) beliefs, so I can certainly see how Christians might be annoyed- but I'd like to point out a few things. "no meaning from God" is not the same as "no meaning". From my (atheistic) point of view, if you want meaning in your life, you get to go and get some or make some. No free gifts of meaning. (I never quite understood how any God can just "give" your life meaning, actually. If he says you exists to do or be X, that gives you a purpose if you care to accept it, but is that the same thing? But I digress...) This would truely be a miserably existance, which I doubt Eric endures. Life can be enjoyable, so you can live it because you like it, or purposefull, so you can live it to get something done. One should endeavour to make it so, if it is not. Otherwise it would be as you say. Terrible. Probably true. Remeber he almost certainly sees that particular joy as an illusion, and does not want it. So maybe it isn't so bad? As an atheist, I am free to be a human person. I think, love, choose, and create. Ah, now here we begin to diverge. I will not live forever with anyone. (I don't think you will either, but you are welcome to your opinion on the matter.) I tend to agree with you. It's my opinion that (unlike drugs) religions are normal parts of human societies. I think they have outlived their usefullness, but they are evidently quite ordinary, normal things that haven't proved lethal to humanity yet. I have heard this claim quite a few times. Does anybody here know who first came up with the "God-shaped hole" business? You might want to provide some evidence next time you make a claim like this. I don't know Eric, but I do not think it is wise to assume he has a less joy-filled and abundant life because he holds certain beliefs. --- - Dan Johnson And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this irrelevant? Either the data shows something, or it doesn't. Regardless of what other studies show. Admit it. What you SHOWED to us doesn't prove that gay men are more likely to be molesters. Brian
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Too many MDs on the list and not enough RNs in my opinion. Doug
talk.politics.misc
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Actually, the iAPX86 family has a HALT instruction that causes the CPU to cease processing instructions. The CPU resumes processing either by being reset or by receiving an external (hardware) interrupt. This is different from the power management facilities Victor mentions. Of course, whether an operating system's idle loop uses the HALT instruction is another matter entirely. -- Kenneth R. Ballou VOICE: (617) 494-0990 Oberon Software, Inc. FAX: (617) 494-0414 One Memorial Drive, Cambridge, MA 02142 Internet: [email protected]
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I recall a discussion I had heard years ago. It went something like this: The problem with omnipotence (at least as I perceive it) as personified by the christian God ideal is that it is potentially contradictory. If a manifestation such as God is truly infinite in power can God place limits upon itself? . . Some stuff I can't recall. Then some other questions I think I recall correctly: Can God unmake itself? Can God make itself (assuming it doesn't yet exist)? Has God has always existed or is it necessary for an observer to bind all of Gods potential quantum states into reality? Was God nothing more than a primordial force of nature that existed during the earliest stages of universal (inflationary?) creation? Is God a vacuum fluctuation? Given a great enough energy density could we re-create God? Would that make US God and God something else? . . Some more stuff I don't recall concerning creating God. Followed by: Is God self-aware? Is it necessary that God be self-aware? Is God a living entity? Is it necessay that God be a living entity? Is God unchanging or does it evolve? . . Any comments? Post them so that others might benefit from the open inquiry and resulting discussion.
alt.atheism
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There is or was a microwave tower next to Florida's Turnpike, and you could watch the cars hit the breaks as they came in sight of it every morning...
sci.electronics
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The parable of the Prodigal Son is not about who is and who isn't an immoral person. It is about grace and the love of God. Most people would agree with that concerning the younger son. The elder son is simply a negative example of the some thing. He thinks that he must earn his father's love, that he has earned it, that he is entitled to it. His father tells him that he is on the wrong track. He has always been loved--for the same reason his brother has always been: he is his father's son. We are too performance oriented to consistently get the point. We are willing to be saved by grace, but once we are Christians we want to go back to earning and deserving. "Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?" Gal 3:3 NIV
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Apparently needing to clarify his comments from Thursday, Dr. Nizam Plawaby (spelling?), the Medical Examiner for Tarrant County, Texas, who has authority in the Waco deaths, stated that since no autopsies had been performed, there is no evidence for bullet wounds, or evidence against bullet wounds. Janet Reno also stated that she had never been told of bullet wounds by anyone in the Justice Department.
talk.politics.guns
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We're all set to buy one of these for the office, to use for scanning in color photographs and for optical character recognition. We've played with the original grayscale OneScanner and were very pleased. Is the color model comparable in quality? Also, what brand of OCR software would you recommend? We're leaning toward Caere OmniPage. Any better ideas? Thanks.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball Harry talks about this "incident" in his autobiography "Holy Cow." Unfortunately, I can not clarify on this since (1) I read the book a couple of years ago and (2) I do not have my book with me. Anyway, It is a pretty interesting book if you are a Harry or Cubs fan.
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Absolutely, unless you are in the U.S. Then the cager will pull a gun and blow you away.
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Yep! I did one yesterday on my shaftie Vision... I should mention that I had a pillon that helped rotate the bike over :-) . The wheelie was the result of a necessarily agressive acceleration manouver through an intersection (damn San Antonio cagers tend to be REALLY bad drivers). However, I have done one by myself, it just takes a lot of pre-clutch dump rev action.
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Well, there are several bursts in species diversity I can think of. The Cambrian and Ordovician explosions resulted in a vast increase in animal diversity. Likewise, after the one-two punch of the Permian and Triassic extinctions, the number of marine animals rose steadily (**) to an all-time high (*) just prior to the spread of humans. (**) biggest exception being the K/T (bye bye dinos) extinction (*) about 800 families Also, plants arose from green algae and colonized the land in succesive sweeps. Mosses colonized very wet environments first, ferns (who had evolved vascular tissues) took over more territory when they evolved (1). These were eventually (mostly) replaced by gymnosperms (pines and the like) (2) and then (mostly) displaced by angiosperms (flowering plants -- now the dominant plant group on the planet(3). Fungi also radiated greatly with the invasion of the land. (1) around the carboniferous (up to about 200 families) (2) around the triassic (up to maybe 250 families) (3) starting in the cretaceous (rising to about 600 families currently) It's unclear (to me at least) what the max equilibrium number of species the earth can hold (***) and if it has ever hit this in the past. It could be (warning: speculation alert) that diversity has never reached a peak because mass extinctions happen often enough to keep the total number down. (***) This would depend a great deal on how fragmented specific ecosystems were. See Cowen's book "History of Life" for a not-too-technical run-down on, well, like the title sez, the history of life. Or see, Wilson's "Diversity of Life" for a view centered more on current ecology -- this is (IMHO) the best popular biology book of (what the hell, I'll say it) all time. Follow-ups to t.o.
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This is completely false. This is also false. What you need for multisession capability is multisession capability -- which is based on the firmware and electronics, not the drive speed. I'll admit, though, that I have not seen a multisession capable drive that isn't double speed. The above (1 & 2), proves 3 to be false. The Apple CD300 is an excellent double-speed multi-session PhotoCD capable drive. So are drives based on the slightly-faster Toshiba XM3401. Some companies selling such drives are: Spin Peripherals (a bargain at $499) and PLI (a company I hate) and Relax Technologies (a company I know little about other than that they are a longtime player in Mac mailorder, which is usually a good sign). The NEC CDR74 is also a good choice (NEC's own mechanism, I think). ClubMac sells it for around $619. Your welcome, ooh but now I see your from Germany. Most of the mailorder info does you little good, I guess. If not: Spin Peripherals -- 800-466-1200 Club Mac -- 800-258-2622 Relax Tech -- 510-471-6112 Nothing wrong with the Apple, though, which is based on a Sony mechanism and speed-identical to the NEC. The Toshiba's speed advantage is very slight: 20% in average access time (a minor plus) and 10% in data transfer rate (a slightly more important plus).
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Farr's ERA is in the
rec.sport.baseball
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Janet Reno, the FBI, et al were nothing but pawns in Koresh's game. He was a madman who was going to hurt the children, and everyone else in the compound no matter what the FBI did. Such a hostage situation has taken place on numerous occasions with the result of the police trying to take the place by force and the result being the death of the hostages and the gunmen. However, this is the first time I've heard of the blame landing squarely on the police. In this country we have a policy of not negotiating a back down from terrorists and hostage takers since that only encourages other terrorists and hostage takers.
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I have a 512k VRAM chip for sale. Worked fine in my LCII and will give 256 colors on 640 x 480 size screen. Asking $50. I'll cover postage. Speaking of which, does anyone know what the best way to send a chip is. I have a plastic antistatic sleeve, but what's the best way to send it? In an envelope? First class? All info appreciated.
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They sure make it sound like that. Even a simpleton knows a baseball bat is considered a deadly weapon. If one cannot run away (e.g. old, infirm, even middle-aged if the assailant is younger), a handgun is the most effective means of defense. You won't even have to fire a shot 98% of the time. Any real streetfighter (and there are LOTS of them), with or without a knife, will kick the living sh** out of most people "trained in unarmed self defense". For the majority of people, a gun is the most effective form of self defense.
talk.politics.guns
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> This is actually the law that David Irving > will hopefully be found guilty under due to his denial of the Holocaust. > It's too bad that this useless "Centre for Policy Research" isn't in Canada. > It'd set a nice precedent to how the law applies in Cyberspace. > > Steve Well canada is wrong. If it was in the US the ACLU would have made sure that such repressive laws are found unconstitutional. Do you think the Church didn't find Galileo's perception of the universe offensive. Bull shit. There is no reason in the world why we can't say that taking views analogous to the KKK's or some such organization is wrong. There is no reason why some morality may not be legislated. As it is we do not allow theft, or murder, or rape. Why should we allow hateful sppech whose only purpose is to stir anger and violence.
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I am looking at getting a laptop for work and I was trying to decide between the Toshibas and Gateway's Nomad. The price is about the same, but the Gateway has significantly better performance (200MB vs. 120MB hard drive, 50Mhz 486DX2 vs. 25Mhz 486SL) and much cheaper accessories (extra batteries, modem...) The concern I have about Gateway is the durability and reliability. Does anyone out there have any experience with the Gateway Nomad? Thanks,
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About a year ago I started work on a problem that appeared to be very simple and turned out to be quite difficult. I am wondering if anyone on the net has seen this problem and (hopefully) some published solutions to it. The problem is to draw an outline of a surface defined by two roughly parallel cubic splines. For inputs the problem essentially starts with two sets of points where each set of points is on the edge of an object which we treat as two dimensional, i.e. only extant between the edges, but which exists in three dimensional space. To draw the object we 1) fit a cubic spline through the points. Each spline is effectively computed as a sequence of line segments approximating the curve. Each spline has an equal number of segments. We assume that the nth segment along each spline is roughly, but not exactly, the same distance along each spline by any reasonable measure. 2) Take each segment (n) along each spline and match it to the nth segment of the opposing spline. Use the pair of segments to form two triangles which will be filled in to color the surface. 3) Depth sort the triangles 4) Take each triangle in sorted order, project onto a 2D pixmap, draw and color the triangle. Take the edge of the triangle that is along the edge of the surface and draw a line along that edge colored with a special "edge color" It is the edge coloring in step 4 that is at the heart of the problem. The idea is to effectively outline the edge of the surface. The net result however generally has lots of breaks and gaps in the edge of the surface. The reasons for this are fairly complicated. They involve both rasterization problems and problems resulting from the projecting the splines. If anything about this problem sounds familiar we would appreciate knowing about other work in this area.
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I'm replying to someone who asked for information on space camp. I have a brochure that has all different schedules. What age, what level and what program do you want to know the schedule of? Most of the missions are 5 to 8 days long. The address for Huntsville is: Alabama Space Science Exhibit Commission U.S. Space and Rocket Center One Tranquility Base, Huntsville, AL 35807 - Jennifer
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I followed up without a thought of double-checking...if I double-checked every fact people vomited onto the table here on the net, I'd never have time to sleep. But to pass the buck to the person who originally posted that quote... ...well, Michael? Take it away! (wild applause) Drewcifer
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One more time. It ain't about duck hunting. It ain't about lone perps on lonely streets. It's about DEFENDING OUR RIGHTS from the *GOVERNMENT*, which has seen fit to ignore history and attempt once again to take them from us. They WILL SUCCEED if we don't do something NOW. That's why I think the NRA is a bunch of WEENIES, because they have FORGOTTEN that fundamental fact. Pardon all my shouting, but there seem to be a whole helluva lot of people on Condition White, fat, dumb, and happy, sucking that glass teat for all they're worth.... Wake up and smell the cordite, gang, they're shooting at us, and it's high time we shot back, at least with our keyboards..... my two bits'
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Typical 'virvir' drivel. People will think you're just some looney howling in the wires. If you think that this 'clears things up' for me or anyone else, you must also believe that aliens from outer space come to earth regularly and abduct 'Arromdians' of ASALA/SDPA/ARF for medical experiments. There is stronger evidence for *that* you know. 'Propagandist leaflets'? This is an American officer on the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people by the Armenians between 1914 and 1920, not a crook/idiot like yourself. Source: "World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers, Inc., New York (1952). (Memoirs of an American officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people) p. 361 (seventh paragraph) and p. 362 (first paragraph). 'The most are inside houses. Come you and look.' 'No, dammit! My stomach isn't-' 'One is a Turkish officer in uniform. Him you must see.' "We were under those trees by the mosque, in an open space.... 'I don't believe you," I said, but followed to a nail-studded door. The man pushed it ajar, then spurred away, leaving me to check on the corpse. I thought I should, this charge was so constant, so gritted my teeth and went inside. The place was cool but reeked of sodden ashes, and was dark at first, for its stone walls had only window slits. Rags strewed the mud floor around an iron tripod over embers that vented their smoke through roof beams black with soot. All looked bare and empty, but in an inner room flies buzzed. As the door swung shut behind me I saw they came from a man's body lying face up, naked but for its grimy turban. He was about fifty years old by what was left of his face - a rifle butt had bashed an eye. The one left slanted, as with Tartars rather than with Turks. Any uniform once on him was gone, so I'd no proof which he was, and quickly went out, gagging at the mess of his slashed genitals." p. 363 (first paragraph). 'How many people lived there?' 'Oh, about eight hundred.' He yawned. 'Did you see any Turk officers?' 'No, sir. I was in at dawn. All were Tartar civilians in mufti.' "The lieutenant dozed off, then I, but in the small hours a voice woke me - Dro's. He stood in the starlight bawling out an officer. Anyone keelhauled so long and furiously I'd never heard. Then abruptly Dro broke into laughter, quick and simple as child's. Both were a cover for his sense of guilt, I thought, or hoped. For somehow, despite my boast of irreligion, Christian massacring 'infidels' was more horrible than the reverse would have been. From daybreak on, Armenian villagers poured in from miles around..... The women plundered happily, chattering like ravens as they picked over the carcass of Djul. They hauled out every hovel's chattels, the last scrap of food or cloth, and staggered away, packing pots, saddlebags, looms, even spinning-wheels. 'Thank you for a lot, Dro,' I said to him back in camp. 'But now I must leave.'...We shook hands, the captain said 'A bientot, mon camarade.' And for hours the old Molokan scout and I plodded north across parching plains. Like Lot's wife I looked back once to see smoke bathing all, doubtless in a sack of other Moslem villages up to the line of snow that was Iran.'" p. 354. "At morning tea, Dro and his officers spread out a map of this whole high region called the Karabakh. Deep in tactics, they spoke Russian, but I got their contempt for Allied 'neutral' zones and their distrust of promises made by tribal chiefs. A campaign shaped; more raids on Moslem villages." p. 358. "It will be three hours to take," Dro told me. We'd close in on three sides. "The men on foot will not shoot, but use only the bayonets," Merrimanov said, jabbing a rifle in dumbshow. "That is for morale," Dro put in. "We must keep the Moslems in terror." "Soldiers or civilians?" I asked. "There is no difference," said Dro. "All are armed, in uniform or not." "But the women and children?" "Will fly with the others as best they may." p. 360. "The ridges circled a wide expanse, its floors still. Hundreds of feet down, the fog held, solid as cotton flock. 'Djul lies under that,' said Dro, pointing. 'Our men also attack from the other sides.' Then, 'Whee-ee!' - his whistle lined up all at the rock edge. Bayonets clicked upon carbines. Over plunged Archo, his black haunches rippling; then followed the staff, the horde - nose to tail, bellies taking the spur. Armenia in action seemed more like a pageant than war, even though I heard our Utica brass roar. As I watched from the height, it took ages for Djul to show clear. A tsing of machine-gun fire took over from the thumping batteries; cattle lowed, dogs barked, invisible, while I ate a hunk of cheese and drank from a snow puddle. Mist at last folded upward as men shouted, at first heard faintly. The came a shrill wailing. Now among the cloud-streaks rose darker wisps - smoke. Red glimmered about house walls of stone or wattle, into dry weeds on roofs. A mosque stood in clump of trees, thick and green. Through crooked alleys on fire, horsemen were galloping after figures both mounted and on foot. 'Tartarski!' shouted the gunner by me. Others pantomimed them in escape over the rocks, while one twisted a bronze shell-nose, loaded, and yanked breech-cord, firing again and again. Shots wasted, I thought, when by afternoon I looked in vain for fallen branch or body. But these shots and the white bursts of shrapnel in the gullies drowned the women's cries. At length all shooting petered out. I got on my horse and rode down toward Djul. It burned still but little flame showed now. The way was steep and tough, through dense scrub. Finally on flatter ground I came out suddenly, through alders, on smoldering houses. Across trampled wheat my brothers-in- arms were leading off animals, several calves and a lamb." p. 361 (fourth paragraph). "Corpses came next, the first a pretty child with straight black hair, large eyes. She looked about twelve years old. She lay in some stubble where meal lay scattered from the sack she'd been toting. The bayonet had gone through her back, I judged, for blood around was scant. Between the breasts one clot, too small for a bullet wound, crusted her homespun dress. The next was a boy of ten or less, in rawhide jacket and knee-pants. He lay face down in the path by several huts. One arm reached out to the pewter bowl he'd carried, now upset upon its dough. Steel had jabbed just below his neck, into the spine. There were grownups, too, I saw as I led the sorrel around. Djul was empty of the living till I looked up to see beside me Dro's German-speaking colonel. He said all Tartars who had not escaped were dead." p. 358. "...more stories of Armenian murdering Turks when the czarist troops fled north. My hosts told me of their duty here: to keep tabs on brigands, Turkish troop shifts, hidden arms, spies - Christian, Red or Tartar - coming in from Transcaucasus. Then they spoke of the hell that would break loose if Versailles were to put, as threatened, the six 'Armenian' vilayets of Turkey under the control of Erevan... An Armenia without Armenians! Turks under Christian rule? His lips smacked in irony under the droopy red moustache. That's bloodshed - just Smyrna over again on a bigger scale." Serdar Argic
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This is a general question for US readers: How extensive is the playoff coverage down there? In Canada, it is almost impossible not to watch a series on TV (ie the only two series I have not had an opportunity to watch this year are Wash-NYI and Chi-Stl, the latter because I'm in the wrong time zone!). We (in Canada) are basically swamped with coverage, and I wonder how many series/games are televised nationally or even locally in the US and how much precedence they take over, say, local news if the games go into double-OT. Email me so as not to waste bandwidth, please. My news feed is kind of slow anyways.
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Good. Another liberal converted by Waco! If Dave had had something realistic, there would have been none of this "Bradley" vehicle crap.
talk.politics.guns
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Well, the "jettison for youth fast" strategy was his. Also in hindsight, it didn't work all that well, but I think it was more because it left the Sharks on a tightrope without a net, not that it was inherently flawed. It was the injuries that caused us to fall. From all indications, it wasn't the "major" factor, but the "last straw". There were personality conflicts among Shark management, and disagreements over how personnel were going to be handled (not just who was being traded vs. kept, but who was being sent to KC. What Ferriera did, if rumors are right, was not always what the folks behind the bench wanted or needed). I think if they'd kept Ferriera, they would have lost some of their other management staff. Depending on which sources you trust, we might have lost Grillo AND Lombardi AND Murdoch over the summer. Frankly, I want to keep those three. (we may well ahve also lost Kingston, which, of course, is now a moot point). The Sharks have been building an organizational staff that is highly consensual and cooperative. Ferriera wanted to run things his way. There were conflicts. Ferriera lost. That says nothing about his skills or accomplishments -- at that level, a lot is personality and politics. I think he did some good things for the Sharks, but that he never fit in as a "Shark person". I hope he succeeds beyond his wildest dreams down in Anaheim, too, because it'll be good for hockey. (but I want the Ducks to be doormats for a couple of years, so the Sharks succeeed first).
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Heh... Try the rec.autos.sport FAQ. They are always calling ESPN to complain. I'm sure you could find the number for ABC there too, as many west-coast viewers were compaining about how something as boring as hockey cut into the Long Beach GP. =) Were you (and several of the other people here it seems) asleep the day "contracts" were explained? ASPN has a piece of paper saying it MUST show that baseball game if it happens. Many businesses payedd money to have their commercials run during a baseball game. This is a business, not your own personal video servant. Maybe you should put that anger into something positive. For example, I saw ads for the new Dodge both on the ESPN and KBL broadcasts. Why not write to Dodge saying that "thanks to the ads run during the STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS, you will now concider their products in the future. They love to hear stuff like that and in the future will be more willing to buy commercial time for hockey games, giving ESPN (and other networks) more incentive to carry games (just one example) Come on people, as great as we think it is, Hockey does not leapfrog the "big three" overight.
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We are looking for GL source code, which was developed by Silicon Graphics (SGI). We would like to compile it on Sun and HP 9000/700s. If there is anyone already supporting GL on HP and Sun, please respond. Also please respond if anyone knows where the source code is available. Thank you
comp.graphics
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Sorry, I was, but I somehow have misplaced my diskette from the last couple of months or so. However, thanks to the efforts of Bobby, it is being replenished rather quickly! Here is a recent favorite: -- "Satan and the Angels do not have freewill. They do what god tells them to do. " S.N. Mozumder ([email protected]) -- "Satan and the Angels do not have freewill. They do what god tells them to do. "
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Does anyone know what frequencies the wireless transmitter/receiver microphone systems that Radio Shack sells operate at? I've tried everything short of opening one up (not actually owning one makes this difficult...) and just looking.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. These systems are designed for wireless PA systems, etc.. Thanks,
sci.electronics
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Using XPutImage, your source is maintained by the client and the destination is maintained by the server, thus you incur the overhead of transporting through whatever client-server communications mechanism you are using. Is it possible for you to maintain your source images in pixmaps? These are maintained by the server, so copying them into a window is much cheaper. Also make sure you are not sending any unnecessary XSyncs, or running in XSynchonize mode. --
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*** 10 MONTH OLD POLK SYSTEM FOR SALE *** Excellent condition 10 month old (proof available) Polk Monitor 4.6 bookshelf speakers are being offered for sale. The are excellent, and sound great. I am going for a higher model. So I need to sell these speakers. I paid $250 for the pair of bookshelf speakers. I am willing to consider the best offer. Send me your offers. E-mail: [email protected]. Also have excellent condition Luxman receiver R-351 and Onkyo tape deck TA-RW404 for sale. Both are in excellent condition and just 10 months old. Makes an excellent system. Paid $950 for receiver, tape deck and speakers 10 months back, will consider the best offer. Each piece will be sold seperately if wanted. E-mail best offer to [email protected]
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so when is PRODIGY going to open the doors for inetgate to accept internet mail eh? obviously if you can post news, mail should go through as well..
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Try ImageMagick. I cannot test it but one told me it does 24bit. Anyway, are you SURE your Xserver supports 24bit TrueColor visuals ? Check with xdpyinfo !
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The subject says it all. I bought Adobe Type Manager and find it completely useless. I ftped some atm fonts and couldn't install them. What's the use? Are you supposed to be able to convert ATM fonts to Truetype? If there's anyone out there who has this program and actually finds it useful, enlighten me!
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I have a Macc IIci and a Color scanner. I scanned a picture at 600 dpi. When I try to print it on my HP500 color printer, after 10 minutes of making noise, the mac hangs. I would need to reboot it. What does this mean? Do I need to buy more memory? I have 5.0 MB now. I also have about 50 MB of disk free, and the scanned picture is about 12 MB. ---
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It's not a cycle. Free helium will escape from the atmosphere due to its high velocity. It won't be practical to recover it. It has to be mined. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and [email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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Considering the magnitude of loss of life in both the Moro Castle and Titanic disasters, I can't believe you can be so blithe there fred. Besides if a LNG tanker breaks up in a close harbor, you can kiss off quite a lot of population. same thing for any chemical tankers. I know the coast guard makes mandatory safety equipment checks on all watercraft. they use this as an excuse to make narcotics searches, without warrants. I suspect, that commercial craft need a certificate at least similiar in scope to an air worthiness certificate from the DOT.
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[ 3.300631523132324, 3.351811647415161 ]
53 seconds to hash 20M of core (I bet I know who the source of your information is!). No, it's not acceptable if it's part of your login process. But if you are going to use network traffic as the source of pseudo-random information, do the right thing and pass it through a cryptographic hash function, not a compressor. Aside from the fact that it will run faster, it will give better results (think of a cryptographic hash as a function that "distills" randomness). Something along the lines of etherfind -t -x -n | dd bs=1k count=10 2>/dev/null | md5 should do the trick. -t gives you timestamps, and the lack of -u makes sure that dd does not get ten lines as opposed to ten K. The above takes a couple of seconds on a lightly-loaded ethernet.
sci.crypt
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Les Bartel's comments: Let me add my .02 in. I had a A/C installed by the Ford garage and it did not work as well as the A/C that was installed by the factory in pickups identical to mine. I have talked to other people that have had the same result. Don't know if this is just a problem with Ford or what??
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The best I've seen is Visio. Runs under Windows. It's not shareware however. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Williamson aka [email protected] Orlando, Florida
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In this morning's paper (or was it on the radio?), Vizquel was quoted as saying that he could have fielded the ball with his glove and still easily thrown out Riles, that he barehanded it instead so as to make the final play more memorable. Seems a litle cocky to me, but he made it work so he's entitled. -- Doug Dudgeon Dept. of Chemical Engineering, BF-10 [email protected] University of Washington, Seattle
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Off the top of my head, I might try: Given: p_1, p_2, p_3, p_4 Find: p_c (center of sphere determined by p_1, ..., p_4), dist(p_c, p_i) (radius) p_c is the same distance from our four points, so dist(p_c,p_1) = dist(p_c,p_2) = dist(p_c,p_3) = dist(p_c,p_4) Of course, we can square the whole thing to get rid of square roots: distsq(p_c,p_1) = distsq(p_c,p_2) = distsq(p_c,p_3) = distsq(p_c,p_4) Plug in the variables into the distance formula, simplify, and the x^2_c, y^2_c, and z^2_c terms cancel out, leaving you with three linearly independent equations and three unknowns (x_c, y_c, z_c). Solve using your favorite method. :) All the best, - John :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. John S. Eickemeyer :: "The Lord God is subtle, Information Technology Institute :::: but malicious He is not." National Computer Board, Singapore :: Email: [email protected] :: - Albert Einstein
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responds to a lot of grief given to him a.k.a. "The Sagemaster" [ . . .] Most of Scotty's followup *was* irrelevant to the original question, but this is not unusual, as threads often quickly evolve away from the original topic. What I could not understand is why Jim spent so much time responding to what he regarded as irrelevancies. [ . . . ] [ . . . ] Well, I guess hypothetical Adam was "the majority of mankind" seeing how he was the ONLY man at the time. I understand what you mean by "collective," but I think it is an insane perversion of justice. What sort of judge would punish the descendants for a crime committed by their ancestor? Well, I must admit that you probably read a.a. more often than I read the Bible these days. But you missed a couple of good followups to your post. I'm sending you a personal copy of my followup which I hope you will respond to publically in a.a.
alt.atheism
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I'm pretty sure that Sandberg has done this at least once. (I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong.) RBIs and Runs scored are the two most important offensive statistics. You can talk about OBP and SLG% all you want, but the fact remains: The team that scores more runs wins the game! --------------------------------------------- Flame Away -- John Bratt
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A person posted certain stuff to this newsgroup, which were highly selected quotes stripped of their context. Here is the complete posting which was quoted (lacking the context of other postings in which it was made): Probably within 50 years, it will be possible to disassemble and re-assemble our bodies at the molecular level. Not only will flawless cosmetic surgery be possible, but flawless cosmetic PSYCHOSURGERY. What will it be like to store all the prices of shelf-priced bar-coded goods in your head, and catch all the errors they make in the store's favor at SAFEWAY? What will it be like to mentally edit and spell- check your responses to the questions posed by a phone caller selling VACATION TIME-SHARE OPTIONS? Indeed, we are today a nation at risk! The threat is not from bad genes, but bad memes! Memes are the basic units of culture, as opposed to genes which are the units of genetics. We stand on the brink of new meme-amplification technologies! Harmful memes which formerly were restricted in their destructive power will run rampant over the countryside, laying waste to the real benefits that future technology has to offer. For example, Jeremy Rifkin has been busy trying to whip up emotions against the new genetically engineered tomatoes under development at CALGENE. This guy is inventing harmful memes, a virtual memetic Typhoid Mary.
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ST> as for more captain trivia, the next Edmonton ST> catain was Lee Fogilin who was later traded to ST> the Buffalo Sabres, after him was Wayne Gretzky ST> who w traded to L A, then came Kevin Low who ST> nly this year was traded to the N Y Rangers Wasn't Mark Messier Captain of the oilers before Kevin Lowe? But, of course, he was traded as well -- so your point of every Oilers captain being traded is still true.
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Greetings baseballers, I have a choice of two more or less identical conferences to attend, one in Denver, and one in Dallas, both May 24-28. Could some kind Rockies or Rangers (they DO play in the Dallas area, right?) fans please let me know if there are home dates for that week. I'd love to catch a game.
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As far as I know ISDN (call it Swissnet here, and it's being plugged in) it's 8 bit 8000Hz (gives you one channel of 64kBit/sec) I guess you should not go below a sampling rate of 6000 Hz if you want to have same quality as on an analog-line. Anybody knows compression-algorithms & -factors for voice ? Greetings, Germano Caronni
sci.crypt
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LOCATION: Corona del Mar, CA (Orange County) FOR SALE: contemporary custom couch 7' long ( 3 cushions) solid Black raw silk-like material rolled armrests clean design excellent condition (left behind @ parents when moved out of state) $450. or best offer FOR SALE: Wurlitzer Console Piano w/bench Cherry wood great condition $600. or best offer
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Hi world, I want to buy a Spirit II 14400 Data/Fax modem (made in U.S.A.). Have anyone heard about it or using it? What is it's performance? Is it stable or not? Please give me some advice. In addition, I heard a news from local distributor that a new 28800baud CCITT ROM (the distributor said it will be the new CCITT standard.) for this modem will be produced at the end of this year. After replaced the old ROM by this 28800 ROM, this Spirit II can transfer data at 28800baud without any hardware alternation. Is this new true and possible? Would the telephone line really able to transfer at such high speed? Please give me some advice. At last, can anyone tell me how to contact with the central dealer QuickComm. Inc.? (I am not sure whether it in U.S.A. or not.) Please leave me a e-mail. Thank you very much.
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I can see high-voltage type display devices being vulnerable (CRTs, plasma displays, etc.) But Jason beat me to this question. What about EM radiation from low-voltage items like LCD displays?
sci.crypt
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Hello, I'm doing a paper on censorship in music and I would appreciate it if you took the time to participate in this survey. Please answer as each question asks ('why?' simply means that you have room to explain your answer, if you chose.). The last question is for any comments, questions, or suggestions. Thank you in advance, please E-mail to the address at the end. I) are you [male/female] II) what is your age? III)what is your major/occupation? IV) what type of music do you listen to (check all that apply)? a. hard rock b. metal c. alternative d. blues e. rap f. jazz g. soft rock h. easy listening i. country j. classical k. hard core l. dance m. new age n. others (did I miss any?)____________ 1) Do you think recordings with objectionable or offensive lyrics be labeled? [yes/no] Why? 2) Do you think certain recordings should be banned from minors (under 18 years of age)? [yes/no] why? 3) Do you think certain recordings should be banned. Period. [yes/no] Why? 4) If yes to any of the above, who should decide: a. parents b. government c. music industry d. other________________ feel free to add any comments on this. 5) Do you think [more/less] should be done for controling record sales, or do you think the present labeling system is enough? 6) What is your definition of censorship? Also, feel free to add comments, suggestions, questions, or further explanations. Please E-mail at: [email protected] or hit 'R' to reply. thanks. Matthew T. Thompson disclaimer: if any responses are used in paper, they will be anoynamous (sp?) unless the person specifies they what their name to be used. -- *************This .sig is closed for repairs********************************
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: :So much for "infinite patience." : ;I find it hard to swallow that prolonged exposure to "massive" amounts of : :And they said that the bomb dropped on MOVE wouldn't start a fire, either. : :The real kicker, though, is the stated justification for the government's :sudden loss of patience: They wouldn't be able to "rotate their teams" : :This outcome could be foreseen a mile (or two) away, but Reno didn't even : :Malcolm Fuller, Surveying Engineering, University of New Brunswick The really good part: "At this point we're not negotiating," FBI spokesman Bob Ricks said at a news briefing about a half hour before the fire began. "We're saying,'Come out.Come out with your hands up. This matter is over.'" Criminal... so much for Billary saying we won't force the issue... anybody have the WH information number? Figure ol' Bill could use a lesson from the ROTC he scorned: "You are responsible for all that your unit/troops do or fail to do." Want to ask him how he enjoys being responsible for violating the Constitutional rights of a group, resulting in the deaths of over a hundred of them, plus four Federal agents... James
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About a year ago, some kids tossed a rock off an overpass on I-94 near Eau Claire, Wisconsin and it killed the driver below. (I believe he was a schoolteacher from Minnesota.)
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The Clipper Chip will have no effect. Current generation PCs, portable and desktop, all have analog voice -> digital voice and vice versa capabilities. So, I only need a modem output to the telephone, and I can interpose any encryption screen on my voice traffic I want. Not even a big deal, but it will pass muster if the have a way of checking whether I am using their Clipper Chip encryption without a full decoding. I have been chided for stating that Dorthy Denning was intellectually dishonest in the ACM debate and in this newsgroup. I have previously refrained from suggesting that she is arguing on behalf of consulting clients. Now, I say that it is clear that Dorthy Denning has been functioning as a lobbyist, not a computer scientist. She has used legal ethics (truth is what you can convince anyone of), not scientific ethics (truth is understanding the external world). Maybe we can revoke her ACM membership? 8) Lew
sci.crypt
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If available please send to Glen Moore Director Science Centre Wollongong, Australia fax: 61 42 213151 email: [email protected]
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I've seen a film of it, my memory may be faulty, but as I remember it the vehicle was slightly over a meter long, with a thick baseplate 30-40 cm in diameter. I think the narrative said it was propelled by dynamite sticks. There were four detonations within about 2 s, the second coming after about 2 m of flight in. Max altitude seemed to be on the order of 50 m, but that is hard to judge.
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I don't have to "try reading a bit", Pat. I *work* as a government contractor and know what the rules are like. Yes, they sign some (damned few -- which is why everyone is always having to go to Washington to see about next week's funding) multi-year contracts; they also aren't willing to include sufficient cancellation penalties when they *do* decide to cut the multi-year contract and not pay on it (which can happen arbitrarily at any time, no matter what previous plans were) to make the risk acceptable of something like putting up a private space station with the government as the expected prime occupant. I'd like a source for that statement about "the reason they aren't cutting defense spending as much as they would like"; I just don't buy it. The other thing I find a bit 'funny' about your posting, Pat, is that several other people answered the question pretty much the same way I did; mine is the one you comment (and incorrectly, I think) on. I think that says a lot. You and Tommy should move in together. -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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I have the following CDs for sale for $6 each plus postage. All CDs are in perfect condition. Michael Bolton Time, Love & Tenderness Paula Abdul Forever Your Girl Taylor Dayne Tell it to My Heart Lionel Richie The Composer Elvis Presley 18 Number One Hits Bobby Vinton Greatest Hits Super Hits of the 70's (includes Yellow River, Rose Garden, For the Good Times, Help Me Make it through the Night, Mr. Bojangles, Sweet Mary, One Toke Over the Line, Put Your Hand in Hand, Stay Awhile, Woodstock, Silver Bird, I Ain't got time Anymore)
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:-> :-> I am looking for a WIN31 driver (or set) for my Diamond :-> Speedstar 1MB video card. Does anybody know of an archive :-> site that has these? I looked at CICA and it had drivers for :-> the Stealth card and for Generic ET4000 cards but not one :-> specifically for the Speedstar. Is there one? Or has Diamond :-> dropped the Speedstar out of the driver development loop. :-> I just looked at CICA yesterday and noticed that they didn't have anything, but I seem to remember seeing something at WUARCHIVE in the /mirrors/msdos/windows3 directory. I think I got my 3.1 drivers from America Online though. --------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected] is
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After reading some of the reports of possible NHL moves to Milwaukee or that Milwaukee should have an NHL team, I thought I'd pass along a story I heard recently. This is second hand, so I don't know how true it is, but I have no reason to doubt it either. Bradley Center in Milwaukee is home to the Milwaukee Admirals minor leauge hockey team. The owner of the Admirals (sorry, I can't remember his name) either owns or at least shelled out the majority of the funds to build the Bradley Center. Supposedly he was approached by the NHL about an expansion franchise, but turned it down because he thought the franchise fee of $50 million was too high. Like I said, I don't know whether this story is true or just a rumor, but if it's true, don't look for an NHL team in Milwaukee anytime soon. The Admirals aren't going to be forced out of the building and you won't see an NHL club and a minor league club in the same building, especially since the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks play there as well.
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No, they didn't have electrical power, but no, I don't find the idea of Davidians calmly cooking lunch with gas masks on as the FBI knocks the buildings down very credible,either. It's not like this whole discussion is relevant. It started when some- one made the wholly unsubstantiated allegation that the wood stove ig- nited NAPALM the FBI shot into the buildings. I'm not a groveling apoligist for the feds, far from it. But wild ac- cusations like this are ridiculous and obfuscate legitimate criticism of their conduct in this whole affair.
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Am I correct in assuming that the science instruments buffer their acquired data in onboard RAM, which is then downloaded upon receipt of the MRO command?
sci.space
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Paul Fortmann submitted a sermon by Peter Hammond on PRAYING FOR JUSTICE that spoke of the positive value of the Imprecatory (Cursing) Psalms. In this connection, I recommend to the membership the book REFLECTIONS ON THE PSALMS, by C S Lewis, with special reference to the chapter on "Cursing in the Psalms."
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I addressed most of the key issues in this very long (284 lines) post by Dean Kaflowitz in two posts yesterday. The first was made into the title post of a new thread, "Is Dean Kaflowitz terminally irony-impaired?" and the second, more serious one appeared along the thread "A Chaney Post, and a Challenge, reissued and revised" both only in talk.abortion, but I am posting its contents into talk.religion.misc as soon as I exit here. This should be enough for us to thrash out for the next week or so. The second post really grapples with the main bones of contention between us. The first is more lighthearted and tells about such things as KaflowitzDebatingPoints [tm], which he continues to rack up on both talk.abortion and talk.religion.misc, while setting follow-ups to talk.abortion alone. His lame excuse for the latter policy is that he gets a prompt as to where to set follow-ups, and does not follow talk.religion.misc much; this suggests that he is being hypocritical in not also setting his Newsgroups line to talk.abortion alone.
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I used to hate it when people posted messages like this, but now that I am contemplating a purchase, I can see why they do. So, has anyone heard of any upcoming (within the next 6 months) advances in the Powerbook line? Can we expect to see a PowerPC PowerBook at some point in the future (I assume an 040 would take too much power and generate too much heat for installation in a PowerBook)?
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:>Hey, gang, it's not about duck hunting, or about dark alleys, :>it's about black-clad, helmeted and booted troops storming :>houses and violating civil rights under color of law. :> :>Are YOU ready to defend YOUR Constitution? : :Its also about crazy fatigue clad survivalist types blasting the :snot out of people who accidentally stray onto his land in the :name of 'self defense.' Well, the count is now at least 86 dead by government action. How many have been killed in the last year in the manner you described? What, no facts? Oh, how silly of me; I forgot, you don't like guns, so you don't need no stinkin' facts. :Don't get too self-righteous, Mr. gun-toter. Don't get too smug, Mr. gun-hater. Mike Ruff
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[...] I struggled with the margin problem for ages as well, until I finally got hold of the shareware binary editor BEAV133, and dug into NOTEPAD.EXE (there is no SETUP facility to force NOTEPAD to default to 0.0 margins- it's hardwired into code!!!). Do a SEARCH for ".75", then change the offending bytes to ".00", et viola. Who are the guys who hardcode these "options" anyway? I'm interested in whether the problem only rears it's ugly head for certain printers- I'm using an old Epson LX-800 (or is that EX-800? never can remember).
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I know for sure that the Everex Magic I/O EV-170A can be jumpered for a printer mode, or for a general purpose bidirectional I/O mode. Also, I know for sure that the IBM Technical Reference says the following about the Monochrome Display & Printer Adapter and the IBM Parallel Printer Adapter: It is essential that the external device not try to pull these lines [referring to the data lines] to ground. And later: If an external device should be driving data on these pins (in violation of usage ground rules) at the time of an input, this data will be `or'ed with the latch contents. I will accept no responsibility if you incur damages of any kind as a result of my saying, ``I DO NOT know for sure, but I think you should be able to use a traditional parallel port as an input port by writing 0x to the data lines, and then reading from the data lines, while an external device drives them.'' The input data will not be latched, so noise could make this infeasible.
sci.electronics
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crud deleted... You are missing out on a lot of neat old rides. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tuba" (Irwin) "I honk therefore I am" CompuTrac-Richardson,Tx [email protected] DoD #0826 (R75/6)
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Unfortunately, I've got another story to add to this. My girlfriend and I were driving through west L.A., and got pelted by a rock just as we were pulling away from a stoplight. The scary thing was that the rock was heavy enough to put a decent-sized dent in the door of my '72 Riviera which is pretty much solid "Detriot Iron." Couple of inches higher and it would have gone through the window. Chris -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Barrus --- [email protected] --- [email protected] 1972 Buick Riviera boattail, peace through superior automotive power! Sacred cows make the best hamburger - Abbie Hoffman
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His designated point-getter remarks were not only meant for Lemieux, but for Gretzky, Bure, etc. etc. .... and he made those particular remarks last December before Lemieux was diagnosed with Hodgkin's, and as the Leafs started their second half roll, and before Gilmour's great season was being recognized by many people.
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Why do you think he would be called a quack? The quacks don't do cultures. They poo-poo doing more lab tests: "this is Lyme, believe me, I've seen it many times. The lab tests aren't accurate. We'll treat it now." Also, is Dr. N's practice almost exclusively devoted to treating Lyme patients? I don't know *any* orthopedic surgeons who fit this pattern. They are usually GPs. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and [email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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#Rick Anderson replied to my letter with... # #ra> In article <[email protected]>, #ra> (...) # Just briefly, on something that you mentioned in passing. You refer to # differing interpretations of "create," and say that many Christians may # not agree. So what? That is really irrelevant. We do not base our faith # on how many people think one way or another, do we? The bottom line is # truth, regardless of popularity of opinions. It may be "irrelevant" to you and *your* personal beliefs (or should I say "bias"?), but it is relevant to me and many others. You're right, "the bottom line IS truth," independant from you or anyone else. Since you proclaim "truths" as a self-proclaimed appointee, may I ask you by what authority you do this? Because "it says so in the Bible?" --Does the Bible "say so," or is it YOU, or someone else, who interprets whether a scripture or doctrine conforms to your particular liking or "disapproval"? Excuse moi, but your line of "truths" haven't moved me one bit to persuade me that my beliefs are erroneous. Of all the "preachers" of "truth" on this net, you have struck me as a self-righteous member of the wrecking crew, with no positive message to me or any other Latter-day Saint... BTW, this entire discussion reminds me a lot of the things said by Jesus to the pharisees: "ye hypocrite(s) . . . ye preach about me with your lips, but your hearts are far removed from me..." # Also, I find it rather strange that in trying to persuade that created # and eternally existent are equivalent, you say "granted the Mormon # belief..." You can't grant your conclusion and then expect the point to # have been addressed. In order to reply to the issue, you have to address # and answer the point that was raised, and not just jump to the # conclusion that you grant. Sophistry. Look who's talking: "jumping to conclusions?" You wouldn't do that yourself, right? All YOU address is your own convictions, regardless whether we come up with any Biblical scriptures which supports our points of view, because you reject such interpretations without any consideration whatsoever. # # The Bible states that Lucifer was created. The Bible states that Jesus # is the creator of all. The contradiction that we have is that the LDS # belief is that Jesus and Lucifer were the same. A beautiful example of disinformation and a deliberate misrepresentation of lds doctrine. The former KGB would have loved to employ you. Jesus and lucifer are not "the same," silly, and you know it. (...) # The Mormon belief is that all are children of God. Literally. There is # nothing symbolic about it. This however, contradicts what the Bible # says. The Bible teaches that not everyone is a child of God: Correction: it may contradict would YOU think the Bible says. The Bible indeed does teach that not all are children of God in the sense that they "belong to" or follow God in His footsteps. Satan and his followers have rebelled against God, and are not "children (=followers/redeemed) of God," but it doesn't mean that they were not once created by God, but chose to separate themselves from those who chose to follow God and His plan of salvation. # # The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the # kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked "one"; # (Matthew 13:38) kingdom are those who have remained valiant in their testimony of Jesus (and have shown "works of repentance, etc.), and the children of the wicked one are those who rebelled against God and the lamb. The issue of satan's spirit-origin (and of those who followed him) has not been addressed in this and other verses you copied from your Bible. You purposefully obscured the subject by swamping your "right" with non- related scriptures. (...lots of nice scriptures deleted (NOT Robert W. copyrighted) though...) #ra> > We are told that, "And this is life eternal, that they might know #ra> > thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." #ra> > (John 17:3). Life eternal is to know the only true God. Yet the #ra> > doctrines of the LDS that I have mentioned portray a vastly #ra> > different Jesus, a Jesus that cannot be reconciled with the Jesus of #ra> > the Bible. They are so far removed from each other that to proclaim Correction: "my" Jesus is indeed different than your Jesus, and CAN be reconciled with the Jesus in the Bible. --Not your interpretation of Him, I concur, but I honestly couldn't care less. #ra> > one as being true denies the other from being true. According to the #ra> > Bible, eternal life is dependent on knowing the only true God, and #ra> > not the construct of imagination. In this single posting of yours, I've seen more "constructs of imagination" than in all of the pro-lds mails combined I have read so far in this news group. First get your lds-facts straight before you dare preaching to us about "the only true God," whom you interpret according to your own likes and dislikes, but whose image I cannot reconcile with what I know about Him myself. I guess your grandiose self-image does not allow for other faiths, believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ, but in a different way or fashion than your own. Not that it really matters, the mission and progress of the lds church will go on, boldly and nobly, and no mob or opponent can stop the work from progressing, until it has visited every continent, swept every clime, and sounded in every ear. # This is really a red herring. It doesn't address any issue raised, but # rather, it seeks to obfuscate. The fact that some groups try to read # something into the Bible, doesn't change what the Bible teaches. Sigh. "What the Bible teaches"? Or: "what the bible teaches according to Robert Weiss and co.?" I respect the former, I reject the latter without the remotest feeling that I have rejected Jesus. On the contrary. And by the way, I do respect your interpretations of the Bible, I even grant you being a Christian (following your own image of Him), as much as I am a Christian (following my own image of Him in my heart). (...) # Most of the other replies have instead hop-scotched to the issue of # Bruce McConkie and whether his views were 'official doctrine.' I don't # think that it matters if McConkie's views were canon. That is not the # issue. Were McConkie's writings indicative of Mormon belief on this # subject is the real issue. The indication from Rick is that they may # certainly be. The issue is, of course, that you love to use anything to either mis- represent or ridicule the lds church. The issue of "official doctrine" is obviously very important. McConkie's views have been controversial (e.g. "The Seven Deadly Heresies" has made me a heretic! ;-) at best, or erroneous at worst ("blacks not to receive the priesthood in this dispensation"). I respect him as someone who has made his valuable contribution to the church, but I personally do NOT rely on his personal interpretations (his book "Mormon Doctrine" is oftentimes referred to as "McConkie's Bible" in mormon circles) on mormon doctrine. I rather look to official (doctrinal) sources, and... to Hugh Nibley's books! (The last comment is an lds-insider reference.) Summarizing: McConkie was a wise man who contributed undoubtedly far more to the kingdom of God than I have, but whose views are by no means dogma or accepted doctrine, some of it clearly belongs to personal interpretation and speculation. But having said this, I find McConkie (even in his most biased and speculative moments) far more thought-provoking than the trash coming from your proverbial pen. I'm somewhat appalled that I have allowed myself to sink as low as you in this posting... ============================= Robert Weiss [email protected]
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I'd like to thank everyone and anyone who sent me information to help me with my project. _______ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ --| |- | | | | / /\ \ | |\ \ | | \ \/ / | | | -- | / -- \ | | \ \ | | \ / | | | __ | / ----- \ | | \ \| | / /\ \ |_| |__| |__| /__/ \__\ |_| \____| /__/ \_\ I'll send my report to all who requested a copy!
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I'm looking for graphics (clipart, bmp, gif...) of anything relating to ophthalmology (I know it's a weird request). Anything such as eyeglasses, contact lenses, eyes...would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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(Amir Y Rosenblatt) writes > Sam Zbib Writes >>No one in his right mind would sell his freedom and dignity. >>Palestinians are no exception. Perhaps you heard about >>anti-trust in the business world. >> >>Since we are debating the legality of a commercial >>transaction, we must use the laws governing the guidelines >>and ethics of such transactions. Basic ANTI-TRUST law says >>that, while you can purchase IBM stocks for the purpose of >>investing, you can not acquire a large number of those >>shares with the intent or controlling IBM. You can do so >>only if you make your intentions CLEAR apriori . Clearly, >>the Jews who purchased properties from palastenians had some >>designs, they were not buying a dwelling or a real estate. >They were establishing a bridgehead for the European Jews. >> >>The palastenians sold their properties to the Jews in the >>old tradition of arab hospitality. Being a multi-ethnic / >>multi-religious society, accepting the jews as neighbours >>was no different, just another religion. Plus they paid fair >>market value, etc... They did not know they were victims of >>an international conspiracy. (I'm not a conspiracy theorist >>myself, but this one is hard to dismiss). >> Amir: Why would you categorize the sale of land as shafting? was it because it was sold to Jews? was it fair to assume that the fallahin would be mistreated by the jews? is this the norm of any commerce (read shafting) between arabs and jews? Your claim that the Lebanese/Syrian Landlords sold Palestine (if true, even partially) omits the fact that the mandate treaty put Lebanon and Syria under French rule, while Palestine under british. Obiviously, any such landlord would have found himself a foreigner in Palestine and would be motivated to sell, regardless of the price. It is interesting though that you acknowledge that the palestinians were shafted. Do many Israelis or Jews share your opinion ? Do you absolve the purchaser from any ethical commitments just because it wasn't written down? All told, I did not see an answer in your response. The question was whether the intent behind the purchase was aimed at controlling the public assets (land, infra-structure etc...). IMHO the Palestinians have grounds to contest the legality of the purchase, say in world court. Sam
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What about disks? Won't it erase them if you're carrying them in the bag?
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The package is called Sun and Sand, it includes: --5 days/ 4 nights(2+2) accommodations in Orlando and Daytona beach; --hotels are selected from major hotel chains and family resorts; --two adults and up to three children; --fully transferable; --expires at 09/93, $20 for extention of one more year; --it needs a 45 days advance reservation (esp. for peak season), the reservation department will offer a coupon book which may give you saving up to $150. --price: I bought it for $199, which is a good deal for peak seasons. For now, I will not turn down any reasonable offers. must sell. It doesn't include transportation. And you have to pay $3/day for hotel tax.
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A dealer will make money off you in three ways, if you let him: 1) New car markup over his cost (remember his hold-back), 2) Arranging financing through the dealership, and 3) Screwing you on the trade. Keep the deal with the dealer simple by eliminating 2 & 3. Buying a car at "dealer's cost" is meaningless if he makes $1000 on the trade and/or gets a kickback from the bank. Blue book (you need to know if you're talking average wholesale or average retail) is a good guide to value for a car. If you are selling it yourself, try to get average retail, and chances are you'll have done ok. Be careful selling to acquaintances if you ever want them to become friends.
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My Honda has a cable release that can be locked out with the ignition key. The valet key can be left with someone and will NOT unlock the trunk or enable the cable release.
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[ 5.491725444793701, 7.290503025054932 ]
an image of the moon has been caught in a weather satellite images of the earth. it appears in both the 0430-1500UT ir and visual images of the earth. the GIF images can be down loaded from vmd.cso.uiuc.edu and are named CI043015.GIF and CV043015.GIF for the IR and visual images respectively. pretty cool pictures; in the ir it's saturated but in the visual image details on the moon are viewable. the moon is not in the 1400UT images.
sci.space
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I'd appreciate any feedback on capture/playback tools for use with X clients. I have pulled XTM from public domain but it appears to be set up to test X servers not X clients. Any comparisons/comments on regression testing tools would be great - particularly XTM, XRunner, Autotester, and SRI's CAPBAK, SMARTS and EXDIFF.
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No it's not. If you would have read my other post I was accurate. Here's what [material from another post]-------------------------> The other point that I would like to make because I know it's true (looked this one up in the Illinois this is for you Andy-----> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ statutes before) is that it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon in Illinois. ^^^^^^^^ <------ Also for you Andy. And then I went on to say: There is no such thing as a CCW for us ordinary folk here. [end of quoted material] Of course I forgot to mention who "us ordinary folk" are so just for Andy I'm going to go to the library tomorrow and photocopy the part of the Illinois statutes with this information and post it. Ordinary citizens CAN NOT get a license to carry a concealed weapon. There are very few people who can. I even asked my lawyer friend about this and he told me that only certain people can get licenses for concealed carry. He couldn't remember which people but he knew for sure that regular citizens couldn't get that type of license. He told me to go check at the library for the statutes which I did. I'll post that info tomorrow night. Until then.......
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: One not-so-quick question to throw out there for you guys... : For our class project, we need to design and build a power supply : to the following specs: : Voltatge: adjustable from 1-12V : Current: *limited* at 1A : Voltage must stay within 2% of designated value for I from 0-1A : AC ripple less than 5 mV (rms) To decide which kind of circuit you must know the initialprecission of the limiter-current and the allowed temp-drift. In the first case, you can use a Ube of a transistor as a voltage-reference of about 0.7 VDC with a temp-drift of 2mV/K. In the second case its better you use a bandgap-ref and a opamp-circuit to detect the maximum-current. The output of this opamp controlls the outputstage to limit the current.
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# #Do anyone know about any shading program based on Xlib in the public domain? #I need an example about how to allocate correct colormaps for the program. # #Appreciate the help. # I don't know if this might help, but I've just started playing with a program called POVRay (Persistance of Vision Raytracer) that also displays its output via X Windows. It does a fairly good job of allocating the colormap on my Psuedo-Color 8-plane display. I got the source from from a site in Canda. The person I retrieved them from was David Buck ([email protected]). Patrick L. Mahan --- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- [email protected] ---------
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In billions of dollars (%GNP): year GNP receipts outlays deficit debt unempl% admin ==== ==== =========== ============ ========= ====== ======= ======= 1977 1930 355.6 (18.4) 409.2 (21.2) 53.6 (2.8) 709.1 Carter 1978 2174 399.6 (18.4) 458.7 (21.1) 59.2 (2.7) 780.4 Carter 1979 2444 463.3 (19.0) 503.5 (20.6) 40.2 (1.6) 833.8 Carter 1980 2674 517.1 (19.3) 590.9 (22.1) 73.8 (2.8) 914.3 7.9 Carter 1981 2986 599.3 (20.1) 678.2 (22.7) 78.9 (2.6) 1003.9 8.4 Reagan 1982 3130 617.8 (19.7) 745.7 (23.8) 127.9 (4.1) 1147.0 11.0 Reagan 1983 3325 600.6 (18.1) 808.3 (24.3) 207.8 (6.2) 1381.9 10.9 Reagan 1984 3688 666.5 (18.1) 851.8 (23.1) 185.3 (5.0) 1576.7 8.6 Reagan 1985 3958 734.1 (18.5) 946.3 (23.9) 212.3 (5.4) 1827.5 8.1 Reagan 1986 4177 769.1 (18.4) 989.8 (23.7) 220.7 (5.3) 2129.5 7.9 Reagan 1987 4442 854.1 (19.2) 1002.1 (22.6) 148.0 (3.4) 2354.3 7.1 Reagan 1988 4771 909.0 (19.1) 1064.1 (22.3) 155.1 (3.2) 2614.6 6.3 Reagan 1989 5201 990.8 (19.0) 1142.8 (22.0) 152.0 (2.9) 2881.1 Bush 1990 1031.2 1251.6 220.4 3190.5 Bush 1991 1054.3 1323.0 268.7 3599.0 Bush [Source: Statistical Abstract of the US (1990 version), American Almanac (1993 version), Universal Almanac (1993 version), Information Please Almanac (1991 version)] GRAPHICALLY: Deficits as a % of GNP, 1981-89 % GNP 7| | 6| X | X X 5| X | 4| X | X 3| X X | X 2| | 1| |____________________________________________________________________________ 0 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 Ironically, Bush could have frozen spending, kept his "no new taxes" pledge and balanced the budget.
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This is to followup my previous reply on this topic, which it has been pointed out to me might have been dangerously misleading in two spots. 1. I stated that psychotherapy (meaning talking therapy and so on) was used to treat Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, which though sometimes true is misleading. It is not often found effective, particularly by itself. Primary treatment today usually consists at least in part of drug therapy. The most current theories of this condition attribute it to more to biological causes than psychological, in places where this distinction becomes important. 2. I mentioned that the DSM-IIIR mentions 'impulses' as a possible diagnostic marker. However, this might look like something people associate with psychotic conditions, uncontrollable or unpredictable behaviors, which is NOT the case with OCD. One of the diagnostic criteria of OCD is that the individual can and does suppress some of their 'impulses,' although they are an unending source of anxiety. The obsessive thoughts and ritualistic actions usually associated with OCD are most frequently very mundane and predictable, closer to a superstitious nature than a dangerous nature for the most part. Some references (one non-technical and several technical) that someone was kind enough to supply for me but was unable to post themself : (technical refs) : And thanks very much to those who supplied constructive criticism to my first post on OCD. I hope this helps clarify the parts that were misleading. kind regards,
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Diplomatic :-) I realize I'm fighting Occam's razor in this argument, so I'll try to explain why I feel a mind is necessary. Firstly, I'm not impressed with the ability of algorithms. They're great at solving problems once the method has been worked out, but not at working out the method itself. As a specific example, I like to solve numerical crosswords (not the simple do-the-sums-and-insert-the-answers type, the hard ones.) To do these with any efficiency, you need to figure out a variety of tricks. Now, I know that you can program a computer to do these puzzles, but in doing so you have to work out the tricks _yourself_, and program them into the computer. You can, of course, 'obfuscate' the trick, and write the program so that it is uncovered, but as far as I can see, the trick still has to be there in some form to be discovered. Does this mean that all the ideas we will ever have are already pre-programmed into our brains? This is somewhat unlikely, given that our brains ultimately are encoded in 46 chromosomes worth of genetic material, much of which isn't used. One way around this is to bring the environment into the equation, but (again, as far as I can see) this still has an air of 'if you see object X, then perform action Y,' and we don't seem to get anywhere. The algorithm has to anticipate what it might see, and what conclusions to draw from it's experience. The other problem with algorithms is their instability. Not many algorithms survive if you take out a large portion of their code, yet people survive strokes without going completely haywire (there are side-effects, but patients still seem remarkably stable.) Also, neurons in perfectly healthy people are dying at an alarming rate - can an algorithm survive if I randomly corrupt various bits of it's code? The next problem is the sticky question of "What is colour?" (replace 'colour' with the sensation of your choice.) Presumably, the materialist viewpoint is that it's the product of some kind of chemical reaction. The usual products of such a reaction are energy + different chemicals. Is colour a mixture of these? If this is so, a computer won't see colour, because the chemistry is different. Does an algorithm that sees colour have a selective advantage over an equivalent that doesn't? It shouldn't, because the outputs of each algorithm ought to be the same in equivalent circumstances. So why do we see colour? A bit of idle speculation... If I remember correctly, quantum mechanics consists of a wavefunction, with two processes acting on it. The first process has been called 'Unitary Evolution' (or 'U'), is governed by Schroedinger's equation and is well known. The second process, called various things such as 'collapse of the wavefunction' or 'state vector reduction' (or 'R'), and is more mysterious. It is usually said to occur when a 'measurement' takes place, although nobody seems to know precisely when that occurs. When it does occur, the effect of R is to abruptly change the wavefunction. I envisage R as an interaction between the wavefunction and 'something else,' which I shall imaginitively call 'part X.' It seems reasonable to assume that _something_ causes R, although that something might be the wavefunction itself (in which case, part X is simply the wavefunction. Note, though, that we'd need more than U to explain R.) Anyway, I'm speculating that minds would be in part X. There seems to be some link between consciousness and R, in that we never see linear superpositions of anything, although there are alternative explainations for this. I've no idea how a brain is supposed to access part X, but since this is only speculation, that won't matter too much :-) My main point is that there might be a place for minds in physics. I'll go back to my nice padded cell now, if that's OK with you :-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin Anthoney [email protected] Don't believe anything you read in .sig files.
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This is the 2nd Reguest for Discussion ( RFD ) for the creation of comp.databases.ms-access The discussion period started on April 6 and it will last until April 28, ( 22 days ). This is an official RFD for the creation of a new newsgroup for the general discussion of the Microsoft Access RDMS. NAME: COMP.DATABASES.MS-ACCESS MODERATION: UNMODERATED. At this time, no need for a moderator has been assertained. Future evaluation will determine if one is needed. PURPOSE: Access is a new RDBMS for the Windows Operating System. It includes WYSIWYG design tools for easy creation of tables, reports, forms and queries and a database programming language called Access Basic. THe purpose of the group will be to provide help to people who use Access's WYSIWYG design tools to create simple databases as well as to people who use Access Basic to create complex databases. RATIONALE: Eventhough Access is a new RDBMS, it is very popular because of its Graphical Development enviroment and its initial low price. Been a version 1.0 product means that all Access users are Novices. For that reason a newsgroup is needed where Access users can discuss their experiences with the product and answer each other's questions.
comp.os.ms-windows.misc
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In the words of Doktor Kultur, in the Ottawa Citizen, "Remember to unhook the Nitrous Oxide before you leave the Dentist Chair!" 8^)
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Ignore the attacks and look at the sales numbers and the MS stock price if you need some gratification. Just keep doing the great job you have done in the past. Thx Dave L
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Anyone claiming that 1500 "real watts" isn't possible in a mobile should dig through their back issues of 73 (and, I think, QST) for a description of the mobile installation of that most revered of OMs, W6AM. As I recall, this included a Heath 1kW (DC in) amp (what was that model number...SB- something.... my mind is turning to the usual Friday mush...) and was run full-out CW fairly regulary. The car's electrical system had been modified, including a rather seriously-heavy-duty alternator, but such an installation HAS been done, and so IS possible. This installation was the source of the legendary story of W6AM sitting in the car, and paging his wife over the department store PA systems!
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Here is the OPI (Offensive Production Index) for all AL players with at least 10 at bats. It is early in the season so there are some very high numbers. Last years leader was Frank Thomas at 0.682. Teams are denoted by an * as the first character of the name and each player has his team preceeding his name. The equations used are found at the end of the post. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Kevin League OPI: 0.448 League BA: 0.268 League SLG: 0.405 League OBA: 0.341 Rank Player OPI BA SLG OBA ----------------------------------------------------- 1 Tor,carter 2.142 0.583 1.417 0.615 2 Cle,baerga 1.432 0.520 1.040 0.538 3 Det,phillips 1.334 0.565 0.609 0.655 4 Oak,mcgwire 1.147 0.364 0.636 0.632 5 Tor,white 1.065 0.500 0.650 0.545 6 Bal,anderson 0.951 0.423 0.692 0.500 7 NYY,owen 0.934 0.500 0.577 0.567 8 Oak,rhenderson 0.911 0.391 0.565 0.533 9 Mil,thon 0.804 0.476 0.619 0.476 10 Oak,browne 0.800 0.476 0.476 0.522 11 Tex,palmer 0.781 0.333 0.875 0.333 11 Det,gibson 0.781 0.312 0.562 0.500 13 Cle,howard 0.755 0.455 0.727 0.455 14 NYY,tartabull 0.742 0.296 0.667 0.424 15 Tex,rodriguez 0.736 0.429 0.500 0.529 15 Tex,gonzalez 0.736 0.261 0.913 0.292 17 Bos,zupcic 0.728 0.400 0.500 0.455 18 Sea,felder 0.723 0.357 0.429 0.471 19 Oak,blankenship 0.722 0.333 0.333 0.524 20 Min,puckett 0.717 0.280 0.720 0.379 21 NYY,oneill 0.710 0.435 0.609 0.458 22 Cle,belle 0.703 0.348 0.696 0.375 23 Sea,buhner 0.699 0.294 0.471 0.478 24 Mil,hamilton 0.682 0.458 0.458 0.500 25 Det,whitaker 0.680 0.312 0.500 0.421 26 Det,fielder 0.666 0.273 0.591 0.407 27 Tor,sprague 0.649 0.300 0.750 0.300 28 Whi,cora 0.646 0.350 0.500 0.458 29 Whi,raines 0.641 0.250 0.750 0.308 30 NYY,kelly 0.625 0.348 0.565 0.375 31 Bos,quintana 0.617 0.455 0.455 0.455 32 Sea,tmartinez 0.612 0.211 0.632 0.348 32 Cal,gonzales 0.612 0.250 0.250 0.478 34 Whi,burks 0.609 0.348 0.565 0.375 35 Cal,snow 0.602 0.368 0.526 0.400 36 Whi,karkovice 0.598 0.167 0.417 0.412 37 *Cleveland 0.595 0.340 0.549 0.377 38 Cle,sorrento 0.594 0.273 0.727 0.273 39 Sea,amaral 0.587 0.368 0.579 0.429 39 Bos,cooper 0.587 0.375 0.458 0.423 41 Min,winfield 0.578 0.292 0.667 0.292 42 Cal,curtis 0.571 0.333 0.381 0.417 43 Bos,mvaughn 0.566 0.316 0.526 0.350 44 Oak,steinbach 0.556 0.333 0.542 0.385 45 *Oakland 0.555 0.298 0.439 0.406 46 NYY,maas 0.547 0.333 0.389 0.429 47 Kan,joyner 0.546 0.300 0.400 0.417 48 Min,knoblauch 0.535 0.304 0.348 0.448 49 Bos,greenwell 0.534 0.261 0.478 0.370 50 Oak,brosius 0.532 0.273 0.545 0.333 51 Tor,olerud 0.530 0.333 0.400 0.412 52 Bal,mercedes 0.529 0.286 0.429 0.412 53 *NYYankees 0.527 0.321 0.468 0.377 54 Bal,hoiles 0.525 0.263 0.526 0.333 55 Mil,kmak 0.523 0.286 0.286 0.412 56 Oak,dhenderson 0.517 0.231 0.462 0.412 57 Cle,lofton 0.515 0.346 0.385 0.370 58 Min,larkin 0.514 0.357 0.500 0.400 59 Bos,dawson 0.504 0.333 0.458 0.360 60 Cle,camartinez 0.503 0.333 0.389 0.400 61 Det,gladden 0.498 0.312 0.500 0.312 62 Cal,polonia 0.494 0.292 0.500 0.320 63 *California 0.487 0.295 0.404 0.364 64 *Detroit 0.484 0.260 0.410 0.357 65 Det,tettleton 0.475 0.211 0.421 0.348 66 Cal,disarcina 0.473 0.304 0.478 0.304 67 Cal,easley 0.472 0.304 0.435 0.333 68 Bal,baines 0.470 0.300 0.400 0.364 69 Tex,franco 0.469 0.300 0.350 0.391 70 Whi,ljohnson 0.464 0.280 0.400 0.333 71 Sea,vizquel 0.463 0.222 0.222 0.417 72 NYY,bwilliams 0.461 0.294 0.471 0.314 73 Mil,gvaughn 0.460 0.222 0.389 0.391 74 Min,hrbek 0.458 0.240 0.360 0.367 75 Bal,cripken 0.451 0.333 0.407 0.379 75 *Seattle 0.451 0.237 0.367 0.361 77 Cal,salmon 0.448 0.267 0.267 0.450 78 Kan,mcreynolds 0.447 0.182 0.500 0.280 79 *Toronto 0.443 0.261 0.430 0.318 79 *Texas 0.443 0.237 0.489 0.289 81 Min,pagliarulo 0.439 0.286 0.429 0.333 82 *WhiteSox 0.432 0.243 0.378 0.336 83 Kan,hiatt 0.431 0.278 0.500 0.316 84 Whi,guillen 0.426 0.263 0.263 0.364 85 Whi,thomas 0.419 0.259 0.333 0.355 86 Kan,mcrae 0.414 0.296 0.333 0.345 87 *Boston 0.411 0.270 0.365 0.336 88 Cle,hill 0.410 0.300 0.500 0.300 89 NYY,mattingly 0.400 0.324 0.353 0.343 90 *Baltimore 0.394 0.251 0.361 0.315 91 Bal,gomez 0.382 0.316 0.316 0.350 91 *Minnesota 0.382 0.237 0.379 0.298 93 Whi,fisk 0.381 0.273 0.545 0.273 94 Cle,jefferson 0.379 0.263 0.316 0.333 95 Oak,neel 0.370 0.188 0.500 0.188 96 Cal,cdavis 0.369 0.211 0.421 0.250 97 Bos,fletcher 0.364 0.217 0.391 0.280 98 *Milwaukee 0.361 0.257 0.293 0.333 99 Det,livingstone 0.360 0.250 0.438 0.294 100 Tor,ralomar 0.354 0.263 0.316 0.333 101 *KansasCity 0.343 0.236 0.327 0.291 102 Oak,bordick 0.339 0.200 0.250 0.304 103 Tex,canseco 0.337 0.190 0.381 0.261 104 Sea,valle 0.336 0.250 0.312 0.294 105 Bal,devereaux 0.329 0.207 0.379 0.233 106 Kan,lind 0.323 0.188 0.438 0.188 107 Mil,surhoff 0.312 0.227 0.273 0.292 107 Kan,brett 0.312 0.259 0.296 0.286 109 Whi,bell 0.310 0.207 0.310 0.258 110 Cle,salomar 0.306 0.200 0.200 0.304 111 Mil,jaha 0.304 0.267 0.267 0.353 111 Det,fryman 0.304 0.185 0.296 0.214 113 NYY,boggs 0.296 0.200 0.233 0.294 114 Tex,bripken 0.290 0.250 0.333 0.308 115 Min,mack 0.289 0.233 0.333 0.258 116 Min,harper 0.288 0.280 0.280 0.280 117 Cle,fermin 0.284 0.200 0.200 0.304 118 Bos,rivera 0.276 0.118 0.176 0.286 119 Mil,spiers 0.275 0.231 0.231 0.286 120 Mil,yount 0.268 0.208 0.208 0.269 121 Tor,schofield 0.265 0.133 0.267 0.235 121 Tex,hulse 0.265 0.154 0.308 0.214 123 Sea,griffey 0.261 0.105 0.263 0.261 124 Sea,obrien 0.259 0.100 0.100 0.308 124 Kan,macfarlane 0.259 0.273 0.273 0.333 126 Oak,sierra 0.256 0.200 0.240 0.231 127 Kan,jose 0.254 0.167 0.167 0.286 128 Bos,hatcher 0.252 0.188 0.188 0.278 129 Sea,blowers 0.251 0.200 0.200 0.273 130 Whi,ventura 0.247 0.167 0.167 0.310 130 Tex,palmeiro 0.247 0.130 0.261 0.167 132 Bal,reynolds 0.227 0.118 0.118 0.250 133 Kan,mayne 0.222 0.231 0.231 0.231 133 Cal,myers 0.222 0.231 0.231 0.231 135 NYY,nokes 0.219 0.150 0.300 0.150 136 Bos,calderon 0.209 0.167 0.167 0.286 137 Bos,pena 0.207 0.267 0.267 0.267 138 Tor,molitor 0.194 0.150 0.200 0.190 139 Det,deer 0.182 0.125 0.167 0.192 140 Det,cuyler 0.179 0.077 0.154 0.143 141 Tor,borders 0.159 0.111 0.167 0.158 142 Whi,grebeck 0.141 0.100 0.100 0.182 143 Bal,gdavis 0.137 0.111 0.148 0.143 144 Tex,dascenzo 0.128 0.091 0.182 0.091 145 Min,leius 0.115 0.083 0.083 0.154 145 Mil,reimer 0.115 0.083 0.083 0.154 147 Tor,djackson 0.114 0.133 0.133 0.133 148 Tex,gill 0.070 0.059 0.059 0.158 149 Kan,gagne 0.042 0.095 0.095 0.095 0.74*1B + 1.28*2B + 1.64*3B + 2.25*HR + 0.53*BB + 0.34*(SB-2*CS) OPI = ---------------------------------------------------------------- AB - H BA = H / AB SLG = (H + 2B + 2*3B + 3*HR) / AB OBA = (H + BB) / (AB + BB)
rec.sport.baseball
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