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You know, I appreciate the caller and the question, but I'm really not sure what that would be. You know, I got the sense, as everybody who I think, you know, most of the people who were in the courtroom did, was that Mr. Moussaoui said these things about the family members. I think what the caller was referring to was he called them disgusting, the family members who had, you know, sobbed in court. And he said that they were parading their grief, you know, before the public, you know, unnecessarily. | you know i appreciate the, caller and the question but i'm really not sure what that. would be you know i got, the sense as. everybody who i think you know most of the people who were in the courtroom did was that mr moussaoui said these things about the family members i think what the caller was, referring, to was he called them disgusting. the family members who had you know, sobbed in court and he said that they. were parading, their grief you know before the public you know | You know I appreciate the caller and the question but I'm really not sure what that would be You know I got the sense. as everybody who I think you know most; of the, people, who were in the courtroom did was that Mr Moussaoui said these things about the family members I think what the caller was referring to was he called them disgusting the family members who had you know sobbed in court And he said that. they were parading their grief. you know before the. public you; know | you know, i appreciate the caller and the question, but i'm really not sure what that would be. you know, i got the sense, as everybody who i think, you know, most of the people who were in the courtroom did, was that mr. moussaoui said these things about the family members. i think what the caller was referring to was he called them disgusting, the family members who had, you know, sobbed in court. and he said that they were parading their grief, you know, before the public, you know, unnecessarily. |
It seemed like he really believed it. I mean, it seems like he really believed everything that he said because there was, you know, he had plenty of other opportunities to elaborate. | it seemed like he really believed it i mean, it seems like he really believed; everything that he said because there was, you know he had plenty. of other opportunities to | It. seemed like he really believed, it I. mean. it. seems like he really believed everything that he said because there was you know he had plenty of other opportunities to | it seemed like he really believed it. i mean, it seems like he really believed everything that he said because there was, you know, he had plenty of other opportunities to elaborate. |
I mean, just as a follow up to the same thing, I mean, at one point, you know, the prosecutor was cross-examining him and he said, you know, do you remember the guy, we talked about a guy who had talked about escaping, testified about, you know, escaping his burning office at the Pentagon, you know, crawling on his hands and knees while his colleagues were dying around him and got out. A guy testified. And what did you think of him? | i mean just as, a. follow up to the same thing i mean at one point you. know the prosecutor was cross-examining him and he; said you know do you remember the guy; we talked about a guy who had talked about escaping testified about you. know escaping his burning office at, the pentagon you know crawling on his hands and knees while his colleagues were dying, around him and got out a guy testified and what did you think of | I mean just; as a follow up to the same thing I mean at one point you know the prosecutor was cross-examining him and he said you, know do you remember; the guy we talked about a guy who had. talked about escaping, testified about you know escaping his burning office at the Pentagon you, know crawling on his hands and knees while his colleagues were dying around him and. got out A guy testified And what did you think of | i mean, just as a follow up to the same thing, i mean, at one point, you know, the prosecutor was cross-examining him and he said, you know, do you remember the guy, we talked about a guy who had talked about escaping, testified about, you know, escaping his burning office at the pentagon, you know, crawling on his hands and knees while his colleagues were dying around him and got out. a guy testified. and what did you think of him? |
And Moussaoui says, you know, my only regret was that he didn't die. I mean, so all of his comments sort of built upon each other. I don't really know what he would know that others don't. I mean, he, you know, he clearly was not a high-level member of al-Qaida. It doesn't seem like his knowledge really extended beyond what his own mission may have been. And he's been in jail for the last five years. So I'm not really sure what else that would be. | and moussaoui says you know my only regret was, that he didn't die i mean so all of his comments sort, of built upon, each other i don't really know what he would know, that others; don't i mean. he you know he clearly. was not a high-level member of al-qaida it doesn't seem; like his knowledge really extended beyond what; his own mission may have been and he's. been in. jail for the; last five years so i'm not really sure. what else that would | And Moussaoui says you know. my only; regret was that he didn't die I mean so all of, his, comments sort of built upon each other I don't really know what he would know, that others don't I mean he. you; know he clearly, was not a high-level member of al-Qaida It doesn't. seem like his. knowledge really extended beyond what his own mission may have been And. he's been in jail for the last five years. So I'm not really sure what else that would | and moussaoui says, you know, my only regret was that he didn't die. i mean, so all of his comments sort of built upon each other. i don't really know what he would know that others don't. i mean, he, you know, he clearly was not a high-level member of al-qaida. it doesn't seem like his knowledge really extended beyond what his own mission may have been. and he's been in jail for the last five years. so i'm not really sure what else that would be. |
And the government in its case had to stipulate that they did not believe Moussaoui when he said that he and the shoe bomber, Richard Reid, were supposed to fly another plane in the attack that day. | and the government. in its case had to stipulate that they did not believe moussaoui when he said that he and the shoe bomber. richard, reid were supposed to fly another plane in the attack that | And the government in its case had to stipulate that they did. not believe Moussaoui when he said that he and the shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to fly another plane in the attack that | and the government in its case had to stipulate that they did not believe moussaoui when he said that he and the shoe bomber, richard reid, were supposed to fly another plane in the attack that day. |
Well, I mean, yes, they stipulated, which means it's presented to the jury as fact, that there was no evidence that that was true. But they, you know, when the prosecutors were cross-examining Mr. Moussaoui, I mean, I think they tried to insulate themselves from that, the defense taking that argument, because they basically got Moussaoui to say that, yes, Richard Reid was to be part of his crew, but no, Richard Reid did not know about that. | well i mean. yes they stipulated which means it's presented to the jury as fact that there was, no evidence that that was, true but they you know when the prosecutors were cross-examining mr moussaoui i mean i think they tried to insulate themselves from that. the defense. taking; that. argument because, they basically got moussaoui to say that yes richard reid was to be part of his crew but no richard reid did not, know, about | Well. I mean yes they stipulated. which means it's presented to the jury as fact. that there was. no evidence that that was true But they you know when the prosecutors were cross-examining Mr Moussaoui I mean I think they tried to insulate themselves from that the defense taking that argument, because they basically got Moussaoui to say that yes Richard Reid was to be part of his crew but no Richard Reid did not know about | well, i mean, yes, they stipulated, which means it's presented to the jury as fact, that there was no evidence that that was true. but they, you know, when the prosecutors were cross-examining mr. moussaoui, i mean, i think they tried to insulate themselves from that, the defense taking that argument, because they basically got moussaoui to say that, yes, richard reid was to be part of his crew, but no, richard reid did not know about that. |
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In other words, Moussaoui said, you know, yeah, they told me to do it but they told me not to tell him. | in other words moussaoui said you know yeah they told me to do it but they told me not to tell | In other words Moussaoui said you know yeah they told me; to do it but they told me not. to tell | in other words, moussaoui said, you know, yeah, they told me to do it but they told me not to tell him. |
Were there any instructions from the judge today that are unusual in any way? | were there any instructions from, the judge today that are unusual in any | Were there any instructions from the judge today that are unusual in any | were there any instructions from the judge today that are unusual in any way? |
To be honest, I was not in court for that. My colleague at the Post, Tim Dwyer, was. But no, I did not hear of any that were particularly unusual. | to be honest. i was not; in court for. that my colleague at the post tim dwyer was but no i did not hear of any. that were; particularly | To be honest, I was not in court for that My colleague at the Post Tim Dwyer; was But no I did not hear of any that were particularly | to be honest, i was not in court for that. my colleague at the post, tim dwyer, was. but no, i did not hear of any that were particularly unusual. |
In fact, the most compelling part of the instructions, from my understanding, was what you already referred to was when the jury left and the judge, as you said, praised both sides, especially the defense lawyers, for the job they did. | in fact the most compelling part of the instructions from my understanding was what you already. referred to was when the jury left and, the judge as you said praised both sides especially the defense lawyers for the. job they | In fact the most compelling part of the instructions from my understanding was what you, already referred to was. when the jury left and the. judge as you said praised both sides especially the defense lawyers for. the job they | in fact, the most compelling part of the instructions, from my understanding, was what you already referred to was when the jury left and the judge, as you said, praised both sides, especially the defense lawyers, for the job they did. |
And my understanding also is that Mr. Moussaoui was clapping as he left the courtroom after that, so, right after Judge Brinkema called him the most difficult defendant she'd ever seen. | and my understanding also is that mr moussaoui was clapping as he left, the courtroom after that so; right after judge brinkema called him the most difficult defendant she'd ever | And; my understanding also is that Mr, Moussaoui was clapping as he left the courtroom after that. so right after Judge Brinkema called him the most difficult defendant she'd; ever | and my understanding also is that mr. moussaoui was clapping as he left the courtroom after that, so, right after judge brinkema called him the most difficult defendant she'd ever seen. |
And I don't think anybody's going to argue with her about that. | and. i don't think anybody's going to argue with her about | And I; don't think anybody's going to argue with her about | and i don't think anybody's going to argue with her about that. |
Probably not. Probably not. | probably not probably | Probably not Probably | probably not. probably not. |
As far as procedure goes from here, this is handled just the way any other case is handled, the jury will come back with a verdict? | as far as procedure goes from here this is handled; just the, way any other case is handled the jury will come back with a. | As far as procedure goes from here, this is handled just the way any other case is handled the jury will come back with a | as far as procedure goes from here, this is handled just the way any other case is handled, the jury will come back with a verdict? |
Yeah. The only difference is really in terms of how it handles with the media because there's such a huge media contingent here. And this is very unusual. There will be a one-hour notice when the jury has reached a verdict. And it will go out over the court's web site, emailed to every journalist who subscribed, myself and probably hundreds of others. And everybody who wants to hear the verdict will descend upon the courthouse. | yeah the only difference is really in terms of, how it handles; with the media because there's such; a huge media contingent here and this is very unusual there will, be a one-hour notice when the jury has. reached a verdict and it will go, out over the court's web site emailed to every journalist, who subscribed myself and, probably hundreds of. others and everybody who wants to hear the verdict will descend upon the, | Yeah The only difference is really in terms of how it handles with the media because there's such a huge media; contingent here And this; is very unusual There will be a one-hour notice when; the jury has reached a verdict And it will go out over the court's web site emailed to every journalist. who subscribed myself and probably hundreds of others And everybody who, wants to hear the verdict will descend upon the | yeah. the only difference is really in terms of how it handles with the media because there's such a huge media contingent here. and this is very unusual. there will be a one-hour notice when the jury has reached a verdict. and it will go out over the court's web site, emailed to every journalist who subscribed, myself and probably hundreds of others. and everybody who wants to hear the verdict will descend upon the courthouse. |
And as happened in the first phase of the trial, the court spokesperson will be reading the verdict from a microphone in front of the courthouse at the same time it's being read in the courthouse, in the courtroom, which is quite unusual. | and as happened in the first phase of the trial the court spokesperson will be reading the verdict from a microphone in front of. the courthouse at the same time it's being read in. the courthouse in the courtroom which is quite | And as, happened in the first phase of the trial the, court spokesperson will be reading the verdict from a microphone in front, of the courthouse at; the same, time it's being read in the courthouse in the courtroom which is quite | and as happened in the first phase of the trial, the court spokesperson will be reading the verdict from a microphone in front of the courthouse at the same time it's being read in the courthouse, in the courtroom, which is quite unusual. |
But other than that, it's the same as any trial. If the jury has questions, they, you know, they notify the judge in writing and the judge calls them in and they answer the question. | but other, than that it's the same as any trial if the jury has questions, they you know they, notify the judge in writing and the judge calls them in and they answer the | But other than that it's. the same as any trial If the jury has questions they you know they notify the judge in, writing and the judge calls them in and they answer the | but other than that, it's the same as any trial. if the jury has questions, they, you know, they notify the judge in writing and the judge calls them in and they answer the question. |
And other than that, we go until there's a verdict. | and other than; that we go until, there's a | And other than that we go, until there's a | and other than that, we go until there's a verdict. |
Jerry Markon, thanks very much for being with us. | jerry markon. thanks very. much for being with | Jerry Markon thanks very much for being, with | jerry markon, thanks very much for being with us. |
Thank you very much. | thank you very, | Thank you very | thank you very much. |
Jerry Markon is the federal court reporter for the Washington Post and joined us today from the courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, where a jury is now deliberating on the death penalty for Zacarias Moussaoui. | jerry markon is the federal court reporter for the washington. post and joined us today from the courthouse in alexandria virginia where a jury is now deliberating on the death, penalty for zacarias | Jerry Markon is the federal, court reporter for the Washington Post. and joined us today from the courthouse in Alexandria Virginia where a jury is now deliberating on the death penalty. for Zacarias | jerry markon is the federal court reporter for the washington post and joined us today from the courthouse in alexandria, virginia, where a jury is now deliberating on the death penalty for zacarias moussaoui. |
On Friday, Israeli dropped leaflets along the border warning Lebanese residents to leave the area for their own safety. Those who could begin heading north and are among the throngs are pouring into the capital city, Beirut and smaller towns along the way. | on friday; israeli dropped leaflets along the border warning lebanese residents to leave the area for. their, own. safety, those who could begin, heading north and are among the throngs, are pouring into the capital city beirut and smaller towns along the | On. Friday Israeli dropped leaflets along the border warning Lebanese residents to leave the area for their own safety Those who could begin heading north and are among the throngs are pouring. into the capital. city Beirut and smaller; towns along the | on friday, israeli dropped leaflets along the border warning lebanese residents to leave the area for their own safety. those who could begin heading north and are among the throngs are pouring into the capital city, beirut and smaller towns along the way. |
NPR's Jackie Northam reports from Beirut. | npr's jackie northam reports from | NPR's. Jackie Northam; reports from | npr's jackie northam reports from beirut. |
It's an instinctive mechanism, and one that the Lebanese have honed over decades of civil war and fighting with Israel: when the bombs start falling, get out of the neighborhood. | it's an instinctive mechanism and one. that the. lebanese have honed over decades of civil war and fighting with israel: when the bombs. start falling get out of the | It's an, instinctive mechanism. and one that the Lebanese have honed over decades of civil war and fighting, with Israel: when the bombs start falling get out of the | it's an instinctive mechanism, and one that the lebanese have honed over decades of civil war and fighting with israel: when the bombs start falling, get out of the neighborhood. |
Peter Bookard(ph) with Human Rights Watch says well over half a million people in Lebanon are on the road. | peter bookard(ph) with human rights watch says well over half a million people in lebanon are on the | Peter Bookard(ph) with Human Rights Watch says. well over half a million people in Lebanon. are. on, the | peter bookard(ph) with human rights watch says well over half a million people in lebanon are on the road. |
The displacement which is taking place is almost unprecedented. In one week, one eighth of the population of Lebanon has been displaced by this Israeli offensive. If you compare that with Kosovo, 300,000 people in Kosovo were displaced during a six-month Serbian offensive. | the displacement which is taking place is almost unprecedented in one week one eighth of, the, population of lebanon, has been displaced by this israeli offensive if you compare that with kosovo, 300,000 people. in kosovo were displaced during a six-month serbian | The displacement which is; taking place; is almost unprecedented, In one week one eighth of the population of Lebanon has been displaced by. this Israeli offensive If you compare that with Kosovo 300,000 people, in Kosovo were displaced during a six-month Serbian | the displacement which is taking place is almost unprecedented. in one week, one eighth of the population of lebanon has been displaced by this israeli offensive. if you compare that with kosovo, 300,000 people in kosovo were displaced during a six-month serbian offensive. |
Beirut's parks are filled with refugees and more than 100,000 people are staying at local schools. | beirut's; parks are filled. with refugees. and more, than 100,000 people are staying at local | Beirut's parks are filled with refugees and more than 100,000 people are staying, at local | beirut's parks are filled with refugees and more than 100,000 people are staying at local schools. |
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Every room at Ramah Al-Sarif(ph) High School is filled with families. Babies lie on old mattresses, men pass a day playing cards and puffing on water pipes, and women fuss over hot plates in the darkened corridors. | every room at ramah al-sarif(ph) high school is filled with families babies lie on, old mattresses men pass a day playing cards and puffing on water pipes and women fuss over hot plates in the darkened | Every room at Ramah Al-Sarif(ph) High School, is filled with families Babies lie on, old mattresses men pass, a day playing cards and puffing on water pipes and; women fuss over hot. plates in the darkened | every room at ramah al-sarif(ph) high school is filled with families. babies lie on old mattresses, men pass a day playing cards and puffing on water pipes, and women fuss over hot plates in the darkened corridors. |
Samad Halleway(ph) with the Communist Party says this high school is just too full. | samad halleway(ph) with the communist. party says this high school is just too | Samad; Halleway(ph) with the Communist Party says this, high school, is just too | samad halleway(ph) with the communist party says this high school is just too full. |
You're welcome. | you're | You're | you're welcome. |
And at the end, I recommended to the governor - I said, look, you know, I get everything that the law says should happen to this individual, but I can't lose sight of the fact that this is a human life and that we are not charged to take that life. So my recommendation, Governor, is that we give life without parole. So I felt, you know, after that journey, very comfortable in my space, if you will, because I brought to that conversation and to the governor's attention my own legal opinion as a lawyer, my professional as lieutenant governor, but I also could bring to the conversation my own moral understanding, as well. | and at the end i recommended to the governor - i said look you know i get everything that the law says should happen to this individual but i can't lose sight of the fact that this is a human life and that we; are not charged to take that life so my recommendation governor is that we give life without parole so i felt you know after, that journey. very comfortable in my, space if you will because i brought to that conversation and to the governor's attention my own legal, opinion as a lawyer my professional as lieutenant governor but i also could bring to, the conversation my own moral understanding as, | And at the end I recommended to the governor - I said. look you know I get everything that the law says should happen to this individual but I can't lose sight of the, fact; that this is a human life and that we are not charged to take that life So my recommendation Governor is. that we give life without parole So I felt you know, after that journey very comfortable in. my; space if you will; because I brought. to that, conversation, and to the governor's attention my own legal opinion as a lawyer my professional as lieutenant governor, but. I also could bring to the conversation my own. moral understanding as | and at the end, i recommended to the governor - i said, look, you know, i get everything that the law says should happen to this individual, but i can't lose sight of the fact that this is a human life and that we are not charged to take that life. so my recommendation, governor, is that we give life without parole. so i felt, you know, after that journey, very comfortable in my space, if you will, because i brought to that conversation and to the governor's attention my own legal opinion as a lawyer, my professional as lieutenant governor, but i also could bring to the conversation my own moral understanding, as well. |
But to that end, though, this is exactly the argument some people are making about Kim Davis on all sides of that question. | but to that end though this is. exactly the argument some, people, are making about kim davis on all sides of that | But to that end though this is exactly the argument some people, are making, about Kim Davis on all, sides of that | but to that end, though, this is exactly the argument some people are making about kim davis on all sides of that question. |
Sure. | sure. |
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Some people are saying, well, she should not have to be forced to act in a way that is diametrically opposed to her core beliefs. On the other hand, people say she is a servant of the public, and that is the law. | some people are saying well, she should not have to be forced to act in a way that is. diametrically. opposed. to her core beliefs on the other hand people say she is a, servant of the public and that is the. | Some. people are saying well she should not have to be forced to, act in a way that is diametrically opposed. to her core beliefs On, the other hand people say she is a servant of the. public and that is the | some people are saying, well, she should not have to be forced to act in a way that is diametrically opposed to her core beliefs. on the other hand, people say she is a servant of the public, and that is the law. |
Right, right. | right | Right | right, right. |
She's not obeying the law. | she's not obeying the | She's not obeying the | she's not obeying the law. |
It is a delicate balance. And I thought that she, by her actions, had raised the conversation. I thought she also should have removed herself because she was so firmly one way that she could not make an objective decision relative to her responsibilities as a constitutional officer of the court. | it, is a delicate balance and i thought. that she by her actions had raised the conversation i thought she also should have removed herself because, she was so firmly one. way that she could not make an. objective decision. relative to her responsibilities as, a constitutional officer of the. | It is; a delicate balance And I thought that she by, her actions had, raised the conversation I thought she also should have removed. herself because, she was. so firmly one way that she could not make an, objective decision relative to her responsibilities as a constitutional officer of the | it is a delicate balance. and i thought that she, by her actions, had raised the conversation. i thought she also should have removed herself because she was so firmly one way that she could not make an objective decision relative to her responsibilities as a constitutional officer of the court. |
I'd like to end this conversation where we started it with the Pope's visit and what you think he was trying to reflect by his own actions, which is that leaders must listen to all sides. Do you see that happening right now? Do you think that's happening? | i'd like to end this. conversation where we started it; with the pope's visit and what you think he was. trying to reflect by his own actions which is that leaders must listen to all sides do you see that happening right now? do you think that's | I'd like to end this conversation. where we started it with the Pope's visit and what you think he was trying to; reflect by his own actions. which is that leaders must listen to all sides Do you. see that happening right now? Do you think that's | i'd like to end this conversation where we started it with the pope's visit and what you think he was trying to reflect by his own actions, which is that leaders must listen to all sides. do you see that happening right now? do you think that's happening? |
No, I don't. I don't see that happening, and I think that the problem is that the political class - as you can already see, they've fallen back into old behaviors. The finger-pointing, the name-calling is back on the table again. And so those lessons from those brief shining moments that he was here have not been absorbed by the political system. And that's going to take leadership from within that class to do that, and I just don't see it at this point, unfortunately. | no i don't i don't. see that happening and i think that. the problem is that the political class - as you can already see they've fallen back into old behaviors the finger-pointing the name-calling is back on the table, again and so those lessons from those brief shining moments that he was here have not been, absorbed by the, political system and that's going to take leadership from within that class to do that and i, just don't see. it at this point | No. I don't I don't see that happening and I think. that the problem is that the political class - as you can already see they've fallen. back into old behaviors The finger-pointing, the name-calling is back on the table, again And so; those, lessons from those brief shining moments that he was here have not been absorbed by. the political system And that's going to take leadership from within that class to do that and I just don't see it at this point | no, i don't. i don't see that happening, and i think that the problem is that the political class - as you can already see, they've fallen back into old behaviors. the finger-pointing, the name-calling is back on the table again. and so those lessons from those brief shining moments that he was here have not been absorbed by the political system. and that's going to take leadership from within that class to do that, and i just don't see it at this point, unfortunately. |
Michael Steele is a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, and he was kind of enough to join us here in our Washington, D.C., studios. Michael Steele, thank you so much for speaking with us. | michael steele is a former chairman of the republican national committee and he was kind of enough to join us here in our washington d.c., studios michael steele thank you so much for speaking with | Michael, Steele is a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, and he was. kind of enough to join us here in our Washington D.C., studios. Michael Steele thank you so much for speaking with | michael steele is a former chairman of the republican national committee, and he was kind of enough to join us here in our washington, d.c., studios. michael steele, thank you so much for speaking with us. |
My pleasure. | my | My | my pleasure. |
Today, we're learning that there is life in space. The Philae lander was originally designed by the European Space Agency to send data back to Earth after landing on a comet. But before it could teach us much, it went radio silent. Some thought Philae was a goner. But the lander shocked everyone last night by sending its first message in seven months. Philae is alive. Mark McCaughrean is a senior science advisor at the European Space Agency. He joined us by Skype, and he explained what went wrong. | today we're learning that there is life in space the philae lander was originally designed by the european space agency to send data back to earth after landing on a comet but before it could teach us much it went radio, silent some thought philae was a goner but the lander shocked everyone, last night by sending. its first message in, seven months philae, is alive mark mccaughrean is a senior science advisor at the, european space agency he joined us by skype and he explained what went | Today we're learning that there is life in space The Philae lander. was originally designed by the European Space Agency to send data back, to Earth after landing on a comet But before, it could teach us much it went radio silent Some thought Philae was a, goner But the lander shocked everyone last night by sending. its first message in. seven; months Philae. is alive Mark McCaughrean is a senior science. advisor at the European Space Agency He joined us by Skype and he explained what went | today, we're learning that there is life in space. the philae lander was originally designed by the european space agency to send data back to earth after landing on a comet. but before it could teach us much, it went radio silent. some thought philae was a goner. but the lander shocked everyone last night by sending its first message in seven months. philae is alive. mark mccaughrean is a senior science advisor at the european space agency. he joined us by skype, and he explained what went wrong. |
Well, Philae was landed on the surface and bounced a couple of times before it ended up in a gully and relied on its primary battery, which was charged up and lasted for 60 hours. But what we hoped for was that using the solar panels on Philae - that they were charging a secondary battery up, and we could use those batteries then to extend the mission for weeks, maybe even months. | well philae, was landed on the surface and bounced a. couple of times before it ended up in a gully and relied. on its primary battery which. was charged up and lasted for 60 hours but what we hoped for was that using the solar panels on philae - that they were charging a secondary battery up and we could use those batteries then to extend the mission for weeks maybe even | Well Philae was landed on the surface and bounced a couple of times before it ended up in a gully and relied on its primary battery which was charged up and lasted for 60 hours But. what we hoped for was that using the solar panels on Philae - that they were charging a secondary battery up and we could use those batteries then to extend the mission for; weeks maybe even, | well, philae was landed on the surface and bounced a couple of times before it ended up in a gully and relied on its primary battery, which was charged up and lasted for 60 hours. but what we hoped for was that using the solar panels on philae - that they were charging a secondary battery up, and we could use those batteries then to extend the mission for weeks, maybe even months. |
That didn't happen, because we were in a shaded place. But what's happened now is as we've moved closer to the sun, the intensity of the sunlight is high enough now that we can charge the batteries. | that didn't happen because we, were in a shaded place but what's happened now is as we've moved closer to the sun the intensity of the sunlight is high enough now that we can charge the | That, didn't happen because we were in a, shaded place But what's happened now is as we've moved, closer to the sun the intensity of the sunlight is, high; enough now that we can charge the | that didn't happen, because we were in a shaded place. but what's happened now is as we've moved closer to the sun, the intensity of the sunlight is high enough now that we can charge the batteries. |
When it went quiet, after it went quiet, did you have any expectation you'd be hearing from the lander again? | when it went quiet after it went quiet. did you have any expectation; you'd be hearing. from the lander, | When it went quiet after it went quiet did, you have; any expectation you'd be, hearing from the lander | when it went quiet, after it went quiet, did you have any expectation you'd be hearing from the lander again? |
Well, we always knew we were going to be moving closer to the sun. But there were two things going the other way. One was that we didn't really know - and we still don't know exactly where Philae is on the comet. And it's possible that as we move towards the sun, we actually - we see seasons on the comet. So the southern hemisphere is now being illuminated. And it was always possible that that gully might go into shade even more. | well we always knew we were going to be, moving closer to. the sun but there were two, things going the other way one was that we didn't really know; - and we still don't, know exactly. where philae is on the comet and it's possible that as we move towards the sun we actually - we see, seasons on the comet so the southern hemisphere is now being illuminated and it. was always possible that that gully might go, into shade even | Well we always knew we were going to be moving closer to the sun, But there were two, things. going the other way One was that we; didn't really; know - and we still, don't know exactly, where Philae, is, on the comet And it's possible that as we move. towards the sun we actually - we see seasons on the comet So the southern hemisphere is now being, illuminated And it was always possible, that, that gully might go, into shade even | well, we always knew we were going to be moving closer to the sun. but there were two things going the other way. one was that we didn't really know - and we still don't know exactly where philae is on the comet. and it's possible that as we move towards the sun, we actually - we see seasons on the comet. so the southern hemisphere is now being illuminated. and it was always possible that that gully might go into shade even more. |
And the other downside - possible downside - was that by sitting cold for months at a time at minus 100 degrees or so or even colder, that the electrons might just freeze and break up. But we now know that that's not the case and it's warmed up far enough that everything's turned back on. And as of now, it's looking pretty good. | and the other downside - possible. downside - was that by sitting cold for months. at a time at minus 100 degrees or so or even colder that the electrons might just freeze. and break up, but we now know that that's not the case. and it's warmed up far enough that everything's turned back on and as of, now, it's looking pretty | And the other downside - possible downside - was that by. sitting cold for months at a time. at minus 100 degrees or so or even colder that the electrons might just freeze and break up But we now, know that that's not the case, and it's warmed. up far enough that everything's turned back on And as of now. it's looking pretty | and the other downside - possible downside - was that by sitting cold for months at a time at minus 100 degrees or so or even colder, that the electrons might just freeze and break up. but we now know that that's not the case and it's warmed up far enough that everything's turned back on. and as of now, it's looking pretty good. |
So tell us about how you first heard from the spacecraft and your reaction. | so tell us about how you. first heard from the spacecraft and your | So tell us about how you first heard from. the spacecraft and your | so tell us about how you first heard from the spacecraft and your reaction. |
The teams had first seen the signal appear on the incoming telemetry around 10:30 here. Of course, we were listening for it, but not expecting it at any given moment. So clearly there were people running around saying what have we seen? What is this? Is it what we hope it is? | the. teams had. first seen the signal. appear on the incoming telemetry around 10:30 here of course we were listening for it but not expecting it at any. given moment so clearly there were people running around saying what have we seen? what is this? is it what we hope. it | The teams had first seen, the signal appear on the incoming; telemetry, around 10:30 here Of course we were listening for it but not expecting it at any given moment So clearly there were people running, around saying what have we seen? What is this? Is it what we hope it | the teams had first seen the signal appear on the incoming telemetry around 10:30 here. of course, we were listening for it, but not expecting it at any given moment. so clearly there were people running around saying what have we seen? what is this? is it what we hope it is? |
I think we'd all - not began to write it off, but say, well, let's not get too excited about the prospects. So of course, you know, your heart rate goes up. And immediately, my wife - I woke her up and said look, you know, Philae's woken up. So it was great excitement. I let the kids sleep though. I waited for this morning for them. | i think we'd all - not began to write it off, but say well let's not get too excited about the prospects so, of course you know your heart rate goes up and immediately my wife. - i woke her up and said look you know philae's woken up so it was great excitement i, let the. kids. sleep though i waited for. this morning for | I think we'd all - not began to write it off but say well let's not get too excited about the prospects So of course, you, know your heart rate goes up And immediately my wife - I woke her up and said look you; know Philae's woken up So it was great excitement I let the kids sleep though I waited for this morning for | i think we'd all - not began to write it off, but say, well, let's not get too excited about the prospects. so of course, you know, your heart rate goes up. and immediately, my wife - i woke her up and said look, you know, philae's woken up. so it was great excitement. i let the kids sleep though. i waited for this morning for them. |
You know, I can think of spacecraft that have overcome problems before, say, like, you know, a faulty antenna - something like that. But has one ever come back to life like this? | you know i can think of spacecraft that have overcome problems before say like you know a faulty antenna - something. like that but, has, one ever come back to, life like | You know I can think of spacecraft that have overcome problems before say like. you know a faulty antenna, - something like that But has, one ever come back to life like | you know, i can think of spacecraft that have overcome problems before, say, like, you know, a faulty antenna - something like that. but has one ever come back to life like this? |
In general, spacecraft, once they die, it's rare that they come back to life. In fact, there's a silver lining here, because if we had been on a flat piece of surface, full sunlight from November, we actually predicted the electronics would have warmed up to the point they would have broken from the heat from the sun by March. And so now we're actually at a more interesting time because the comet is approaching its nearest point to the sun on the 13th of August. And we're seeing the comet in a much more active time than we would've seen it between November and March. | in general spacecraft once they die it's rare that, they, come, back to life in, fact there's a silver lining here, because, if we had. been on a flat piece of surface full sunlight from november we actually predicted the electronics would have, warmed up to the point they would have broken from the heat from the sun by march and so now we're actually at a more interesting time because the comet is approaching its nearest. point, to the. sun on the 13th of august and we're seeing the comet in a much more; active time than we would've seen it between november and. | In, general spacecraft once they die it's. rare that they come back to, life In fact there's. a silver lining here because if we had. been on a flat piece of, surface full sunlight from November we actually predicted, the electronics would have warmed up to the point they would. have broken from the heat from the sun by March. And so now, we're actually at a. more interesting time because the comet is approaching its nearest point to the sun on the 13th, of August And, we're seeing the comet in a much more active, time than we would've seen, it between November and, | in general, spacecraft, once they die, it's rare that they come back to life. in fact, there's a silver lining here, because if we had been on a flat piece of surface, full sunlight from november, we actually predicted the electronics would have warmed up to the point they would have broken from the heat from the sun by march. and so now we're actually at a more interesting time because the comet is approaching its nearest point to the sun on the 13th of august. and we're seeing the comet in a much more active time than we would've seen it between november and march. |
So what's the future for Philae? | so what's the future for | So what's the. future for | so what's the future for philae? |
We can actually study the comet now as it gets more active. And in the end, we're trying to piece together this whole puzzle, you know? What are comets made of? What kind of form of water is there in comets? Is it like the water we have on the Earth? Are there carbon-bearing molecules, things which actually are the building blocks of life? | we can actually. study the comet now as it gets more active and in the end we're trying to piece together this whole puzzle you know? what are comets made of? what kind of form of, water is there in comets? is it like the water we have on, the earth? are there carbon-bearing. molecules things which actually are the building. blocks of | We can actually study the comet, now as it gets more active And in the, end; we're trying to, piece together this whole puzzle you know? What are comets, made of? What kind of form of water is there in comets? Is it like the water. we have on the. Earth? Are there, carbon-bearing molecules things which, actually are the building blocks; of | we can actually study the comet now as it gets more active. and in the end, we're trying to piece together this whole puzzle, you know? what are comets made of? what kind of form of water is there in comets? is it like the water we have on the earth? are there carbon-bearing molecules, things which actually are the building blocks of life? |
The whole beauty of this mission is to try to understand the origins of the planet Earth and potentially of human beings and other life on the planet Earth. | the whole beauty of this mission is, to try to understand the origins of the planet earth and potentially. of human beings and other life on the planet | The, whole beauty of this mission is to; try to understand the origins of; the, planet Earth and potentially of human beings and other. life on the planet | the whole beauty of this mission is to try to understand the origins of the planet earth and potentially of human beings and other life on the planet earth. |
Mark McCaughrean is a senior science advisor at the European Space Agency. Mark, congratulations and thanks very much. | mark mccaughrean, is a senior science advisor at the. european space agency mark congratulations and thanks very | Mark, McCaughrean is a senior science, advisor, at the European Space Agency Mark congratulations and thanks very | mark mccaughrean is a senior science advisor at the european space agency. mark, congratulations and thanks very much. |
It's my pleasure. It's been great to talk to you. | it's my pleasure it's been great to talk to | It's my pleasure It's been great to talk to | it's my pleasure. it's been great to talk to you. |
In the months before taking office, Xi Jinping delivered a speech announcing the campaign he would use to consolidate power, a sweeping crusade against corruption, which had become prevalent on every level of society after decades of double-digit growth. According to Professor Willy Wo-Lap Lam, it was now or never. | in the months before taking office xi jinping delivered a speech announcing the campaign he would use to consolidate power a; sweeping crusade against corruption which had become prevalent on every, level of society after decades of double-digit growth according to professor willy wo-lap lam it, was now or | In the months before taking. office Xi Jinping delivered a speech announcing the campaign he would use to consolidate, power a sweeping crusade against, corruption; which had become prevalent on every level of, society after decades of double-digit growth According to Professor Willy Wo-Lap Lam it was, now or | in the months before taking office, xi jinping delivered a speech announcing the campaign he would use to consolidate power, a sweeping crusade against corruption, which had become prevalent on every level of society after decades of double-digit growth. according to professor willy wo-lap lam, it was now or never. |
There is a good possibility, in fact, that if high-level corruption continues, the people will rise up and overthrow the party. | there is a good, possibility in fact that if high-level corruption, continues the people will rise up and overthrow the | There is a good possibility in. fact that if. high-level corruption continues the people will rise up and overthrow the | there is a good possibility, in fact, that if high-level corruption continues, the people will rise up and overthrow the party. |
Lam says Xi has used his anti-corruption campaign to eliminate key members of rival factions within China's Communist Party - the Shanghai faction, led by former leader Jiang Zemin, and the Youth League faction, led by former leader Hu Jintao. | lam says xi has used his anti-corruption campaign to eliminate key members of rival factions within china's communist party - the shanghai faction led by former leader jiang zemin and the youth league faction, led by former leader hu. | Lam. says Xi has used his. anti-corruption campaign to eliminate key members of rival factions within China's Communist Party - the Shanghai faction led by, former leader Jiang Zemin and the Youth. League faction led by former leader Hu | lam says xi has used his anti-corruption campaign to eliminate key members of rival factions within china's communist party - the shanghai faction, led by former leader jiang zemin, and the youth league faction, led by former leader hu jintao. |
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At the opening session of the 19th Party Congress, Xi announced a new era for China. It was a way of distinguishing his policies from his predecessors'. Lam says Xi has started his own faction and become the strongest Chinese leader since Mao by wielding the anti-corruption campaign as a Machiavellian tool to eliminate potential rivals. | at, the; opening session of the 19th party congress xi announced a new era for china it was a way of distinguishing his policies from his predecessors'. lam says xi has started his own faction and become the strongest chinese leader since mao by wielding the anti-corruption campaign as a machiavellian tool to eliminate potential | At the opening session of the 19th Party Congress Xi announced, a new era for China It was a. way of distinguishing his policies from his predecessors'. Lam says Xi has started his own faction and become the strongest Chinese leader since Mao by wielding the anti-corruption campaign as a Machiavellian tool to eliminate potential | at the opening session of the 19th party congress, xi announced a new era for china. it was a way of distinguishing his policies from his predecessors'. lam says xi has started his own faction and become the strongest chinese leader since mao by wielding the anti-corruption campaign as a machiavellian tool to eliminate potential rivals. |
I think the evidence that we have is that that is not his aim. | i think the evidence that, we have is that that is not his | I think the evidence that we have is that that is not his | i think the evidence that we have is that that is not his aim. |
Again, Arthur Kroeber. He points to how far-reaching Xi's campaign has been. Hundreds of thousands of officials have been investigated. | again arthur kroeber he points to. how far-reaching, xi's campaign has, been hundreds of thousands of officials have been | Again Arthur Kroeber He points to how far-reaching Xi's campaign has been Hundreds of thousands of officials have been, | again, arthur kroeber. he points to how far-reaching xi's campaign has been. hundreds of thousands of officials have been investigated. |
His aim is much broader, that he wants to create a system that will survive after him and that, in that sense, he is a kind of member of this Chinese elite that has a sense of mission about the country as a whole. | his aim is much broader that he, wants to, create a; system that will survive after him and that in, that sense he is a kind of member of. this chinese elite that has a sense. of mission about. the country as, a | His aim is much broader that he wants to create a system that will survive after, him and that in, that, sense. he is a kind, of member of this Chinese elite that has a sense of mission about the country as a | his aim is much broader, that he wants to create a system that will survive after him and that, in that sense, he is a kind of member of this chinese elite that has a sense of mission about the country as a whole. |
Peter Corne, a managing partner at Dorsey & Whitney, has practiced law in China for more than two decades. He says if Xi's using the campaign to remove political rivals, then it's only a small part of what has become a far-reaching reform of how China's governed. | peter corne a managing partner at dorsey & whitney has practiced law in china for more than two decades he says if xi's using the campaign to remove. political rivals then it's only a small part of what, has become a far-reaching reform of how china's | Peter Corne a managing partner at Dorsey & Whitney has practiced, law in; China for more than two decades He says if Xi's using the campaign to. remove political rivals, then it's only a small part of what has. become a far-reaching reform, of how, China's | peter corne, a managing partner at dorsey & whitney, has practiced law in china for more than two decades. he says if xi's using the campaign to remove political rivals, then it's only a small part of what has become a far-reaching reform of how china's governed. |
The fact that all government officials are so aware of this and so careful now means that it's become the new normality. It's just changed the way people think and the way people do things. And I think that's going to sustain. | the fact that all government officials are so aware of this and so careful now. means that it's become the new normality it's just changed the way people think and. the way people. do things and i think that's, going to | The fact that all government officials are so aware of this and so careful; now means that it's become the new normality It's, just changed the way people think and the way people do things And I think that's going to | the fact that all government officials are so aware of this and so careful now means that it's become the new normality. it's just changed the way people think and the way people do things. and i think that's going to sustain. |
Corne says for years, he's felt that practicing law in China was promoting an illusion. He says now it's a little more meaningful. Rob Schmitz, NPR News, Shanghai. | corne says for years he's felt that practicing law in china was promoting an. illusion he, says now it's a little more meaningful, rob schmitz npr news, | Corne says for years he's, felt that practicing law in China was promoting an illusion He says now it's a little more meaningful Rob Schmitz NPR News | corne says for years, he's felt that practicing law in china was promoting an illusion. he says now it's a little more meaningful. rob schmitz, npr news, shanghai. |
Now, we want to spend a few minutes talking about a new television show that examines the criminal justice system from a critical but often overlooked angle. "Released" follows six former inmates after they have completed their time in prison. It takes place during their first three months in the outside world after years and, in some cases, decades behind bars. Shaka Senghor is an author and a consulting producer on the project, which is one of the latest offerings of Oprah Winfrey's OWN network. He's with us now from New York. Shaka Senghor, thanks so much for speaking with us. | now we want to spend a few minutes talking about, a new television, show that examines the criminal justice system. from a critical but often overlooked angle "released" follows six former inmates after they have completed their time in. prison it takes place during their first three months in the outside. world after years and in some cases. decades behind bars shaka senghor. is an author and, a, consulting producer, on the project which is one of the latest offerings. of oprah winfrey's own network he's with us now from new york shaka. senghor. thanks so much for speaking with; | Now we want to spend a few minutes talking about a new television show that examines the criminal justice system from a, critical but often overlooked angle "Released" follows six former inmates. after they have completed their time in prison It takes place during their first three months in the outside world after years and in some cases decades behind bars Shaka Senghor is an author and a consulting producer on the project which is one of the latest offerings, of Oprah Winfrey's OWN network He's with us. now from New. York Shaka Senghor thanks so much for speaking, with | now, we want to spend a few minutes talking about a new television show that examines the criminal justice system from a critical but often overlooked angle. "released" follows six former inmates after they have completed their time in prison. it takes place during their first three months in the outside world after years and, in some cases, decades behind bars. shaka senghor is an author and a consulting producer on the project, which is one of the latest offerings of oprah winfrey's own network. he's with us now from new york. shaka senghor, thanks so much for speaking with us. |
Happy to be here. | happy to be | Happy to be | happy to be here. |
So the title consulting producer - I take it that means you know where of you speak. | so the title consulting, producer - i take it that means you. know where of you | So the, title consulting producer - I take it that means you know where of you | so the title consulting producer - i take it that means you know where of you speak. |
Yes. Coming to this project was really an amazing experience first of all, but to be able to use my own personal experience to help, you know, shape the way that we told these stories was just something that means a lot to me and meant a lot to Oprah to have me as part of it. | yes coming, to this project was really an amazing experience first of all, but to be able to use my own personal experience to help you know, shape the way that we, told, these stories was just something that means, a lot to me and meant a lot to oprah to have me as part of | Yes. Coming to this project was really an amazing experience first, of all but to be able to use my own personal experience to help you know shape the way that we told, these stories was just something, that means a lot to me and meant a lot to Oprah to have me as part of; | yes. coming to this project was really an amazing experience first of all, but to be able to use my own personal experience to help, you know, shape the way that we told these stories was just something that means a lot to me and meant a lot to oprah to have me as part of it. |
What was your experience for people who aren't familiar with your story or who didn't happen to see you on the "Oprah" show? What was your experience that led you to this place? | what was your experience for; people, who aren't familiar with your story or who didn't happen to see. you on the. "oprah" show? what was your experience that led, you to this | What was, your experience for people who aren't familiar with your story. or who didn't happen to see you on the "Oprah" show? What, was your experience that led you to this | what was your experience for people who aren't familiar with your story or who didn't happen to see you on the "oprah" show? what was your experience that led you to this place? |
Yeah, I was incarcerated at the age of 19 in 1991. I spent a total of 19 years in prison, seven in a solitary confinement. And it was in that environment that I began writing and channeling, you know, stories that I felt reflected some experiences in the environment. And once I got out of prison, I wrote about a book - my memoir "Writing My Wrongs: Life, Death, And Redemption In An American Prison." And that was the book that Oprah read that, you know, led her and I having the interview on her "SuperSoul Sunday." | yeah i was incarcerated at, the age of 19 in 1991. i spent. a total of 19 years in prison seven in a solitary confinement and it was in that environment that i began, writing and channeling you know stories that i felt. reflected some experiences in the environment and once i got out of prison i wrote about a book - my. memoir "writing my wrongs: life death and redemption in an american prison" and that was the book that oprah read that you know led her. and i having. the interview on her, "supersoul | Yeah I was incarcerated at the. age of 19 in 1991. I spent a total of 19 years in prison seven in a solitary confinement And it was in that environment that I began writing and channeling you; know stories that I felt reflected some experiences in the; environment And once I got out of prison I wrote about a; book - my, memoir "Writing My Wrongs: Life. Death And. Redemption In An American. Prison" And that was the book that Oprah read that, you know led her and I having the interview on her "SuperSoul; | yeah, i was incarcerated at the age of 19 in 1991. i spent a total of 19 years in prison, seven in a solitary confinement. and it was in that environment that i began writing and channeling, you know, stories that i felt reflected some experiences in the environment. and once i got out of prison, i wrote about a book - my memoir "writing my wrongs: life, death, and redemption in an american prison." and that was the book that oprah read that, you know, led her and i having the interview on her "supersoul sunday." |
The show is - and I don't mean this in a diminishing way, so please don't take it the wrong way - but it is kind of like a reality show. I mean, it follows them through things that a lot of people might take for granted. I know one moment stood out for me when one of the first people you meet doesn't recognize the phone, that his cousins are there to greet him and he doesn't recognize the phone. And he looks at it and he goes what do you want me to do with this? And she says, look, it's a phone. It's a phone. Put it to your ear, and he literally doesn't know. Let me just play a clip from one of the men profiled on the first episode - Kevin. | the show is - and i don't mean this, in a diminishing way so please don't take it the wrong way. - but it is, kind, of. like, a, reality show i mean it. follows them through things. that a lot of people might take for granted i know one moment, stood out for me when; one of the first people you, meet doesn't recognize; the, phone that his cousins are. there to greet him and he doesn't recognize the phone. and he looks at it and. he, goes what do. you want me to do with this? and she says look it's a phone it's a phone put it to your ear. and he literally doesn't know let me. just play; a clip from one. of the men profiled on the first episode | The show is - and I don't mean this in a diminishing way so please don't take it the wrong, way - but it. is kind. of like a reality show I. mean it follows them through things that a lot of people might take for granted I. know one moment stood out for me when, one, of the. first people. you meet doesn't recognize. the phone that. his cousins are, there to greet him and he doesn't recognize the phone And he. looks at it and, he goes what do you want. me to do with this? And she says look it's a phone It's, a phone, Put it to your ear and he literally doesn't know. Let me just play a clip from one of the men profiled on the first. episode | the show is - and i don't mean this in a diminishing way, so please don't take it the wrong way - but it is kind of like a reality show. i mean, it follows them through things that a lot of people might take for granted. i know one moment stood out for me when one of the first people you meet doesn't recognize the phone, that his cousins are there to greet him and he doesn't recognize the phone. and he looks at it and he goes what do you want me to do with this? and she says, look, it's a phone. it's a phone. put it to your ear, and he literally doesn't know. let me just play a clip from one of the men profiled on the first episode - kevin. |
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I'm stepping into a restaurant for the first time in 19 years. It was strange. People were going about their daily business, and it reminded me that life was still going on in society. When you're incarcerated, you kind of expect the whole world to stop because you're in prison. | i'm, stepping into a restaurant, for the first time in 19 years it was strange people were going about their daily business and it reminded me that life was still. going on. in society when you're, incarcerated you, kind of expect the whole world to. stop because. you're in | I'm stepping into a restaurant for the first time in 19 years It was strange People were going about their daily business and it; reminded me that life. was still going on in society When you're incarcerated you kind, of expect the whole world to stop because you're in | i'm stepping into a restaurant for the first time in 19 years. it was strange. people were going about their daily business, and it reminded me that life was still going on in society. when you're incarcerated, you kind of expect the whole world to stop because you're in prison. |
You know, I have to ask that when you saw people struggling with things that you must have struggled with yourself, did you want to help them? Did you help them? | you know i have to ask. that when you saw people struggling, with things that. you must have struggled with yourself did you, want to help them? did you help | You know I have to ask that when you saw people struggling with things that you must have struggled with yourself did you want to help them? Did you help | you know, i have to ask that when you saw people struggling with things that you must have struggled with yourself, did you want to help them? did you help them? |
No, I didn't. Actually we didn't have any interference. You know, and this is - this is the difference between a docuseries and a reality TV show. Nothing is scripted about this. And of course there are moments where I was like I wish I could just say it'll be OK or, you know, just offer up some words of wisdom from my own experience. But for me, seeing them struggle with some of the same things I struggle with validated my feelings about what it was like walking out of prison and how scary it was. I mean, you think about that moment when Kevin picks up the phone - he's been gone for 20 years, and phone technology is dramatically different from what it was when he was incarcerated. And it's just all these little nuance things that I think will help families who have loved ones coming home really understand how important it is to just be patient. It may seem like something that doesn't seem that big in a person's life who's never been incarcerated, but for somebody who's been gone away, it's a very stressful moment. | no i didn't actually we, didn't have any interference, you know and this is - this is the difference between a docuseries and, a reality tv show, nothing is scripted about this and of course; there are moments where i was like i wish i, could just say it'll be, ok. or, you know just offer up some words of wisdom from my own experience but for me seeing them struggle with some of the same things i struggle with validated my feelings about what it was like walking out of prison and how scary it was i mean you, think about that moment when kevin picks up the phone, - he's. been gone for 20 years and phone technology is dramatically different from. what. it was when he was incarcerated. and it's just all these little. nuance things that i think will help families who have loved ones coming home really understand how important it is. to. just be patient it may seem. like something that doesn't seem that big in. a person's life who's never been incarcerated but for somebody who's been gone away. it's a very stressful | No I didn't. Actually we; didn't have any interference You know and this. is - this. is the difference between a docuseries and. a reality, TV show Nothing is scripted about. this And of course, there are, moments where I was like, I wish I could just say it'll be OK or you know just, offer up some words of wisdom from my own experience But for me seeing them struggle with some of, the, same things I struggle with validated my feelings about what it was like walking out, of prison and how, scary it was I mean you think about that moment when Kevin picks up the phone - he's been gone for 20 years and, phone technology is dramatically different from what it. was when he was incarcerated And it's just all these little nuance things that I. think will help families who have loved ones coming home really understand how important it is to just be patient It may seem like something that doesn't seem that big in a person's life who's never been incarcerated but for somebody who's been gone away it's a very stressful | no, i didn't. actually we didn't have any interference. you know, and this is - this is the difference between a docuseries and a reality tv show. nothing is scripted about this. and of course there are moments where i was like i wish i could just say it'll be ok or, you know, just offer up some words of wisdom from my own experience. but for me, seeing them struggle with some of the same things i struggle with validated my feelings about what it was like walking out of prison and how scary it was. i mean, you think about that moment when kevin picks up the phone - he's been gone for 20 years, and phone technology is dramatically different from what it was when he was incarcerated. and it's just all these little nuance things that i think will help families who have loved ones coming home really understand how important it is to just be patient. it may seem like something that doesn't seem that big in a person's life who's never been incarcerated, but for somebody who's been gone away, it's a very stressful moment. |
And it wasn't just the people being released. It's also their families. They play a very critical role in the series and also in these people's lives. There's one woman profiled - Kay - who returns to her son, Simeon, who was born with Down's syndrome. We'll just play that clip. | and it wasn't just the people being released it's also, their families they play a very critical role in, the series and. also in these people's lives there's one woman profiled - kay - who returns to her son simeon who, was born with down's syndrome we'll just play that | And it wasn't just the people being released It's also their families They play. a very critical role in the series and, also in these people's lives. There's one woman profiled - Kay - who returns to her son Simeon who was born with Down's syndrome We'll just play that | and it wasn't just the people being released. it's also their families. they play a very critical role in the series and also in these people's lives. there's one woman profiled - kay - who returns to her son, simeon, who was born with down's syndrome. we'll just play that clip. |
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I never got a chance to tell him look, Mommy, might be gone for a while. | i never, got a chance, to tell him look mommy might be, gone for a | I. never got a chance to tell him. look, Mommy might be gone for a | i never got a chance to tell him look, mommy, might be gone for a while. |
I love you so much. | i, love; you so | I love you so. | i love you so much. |
And to hug Simeon for the first time, it felt good. It felt like I was being mommy. | and to hug simeon for the first, time it felt good it felt like i was being | And to, hug Simeon for the first time it, felt good It felt like I was being | and to hug simeon for the first time, it felt good. it felt like i was being mommy. |
There's a commotion. A teen named Rudy is yelling. He just returned to his cell to discover that the cookies and snacks he had stashed away were confiscated. As punishment for having food in his cell, he got docked 15 minutes of rec time, and he's upset, refusing to go back inside. | there's a commotion a teen named rudy is, yelling, he. just returned to his cell to discover, that the cookies and snacks he had stashed. away were confiscated as punishment for having food in his cell he got docked 15 minutes of rec time, and he's upset, refusing to go back | There's a commotion A teen named Rudy is yelling He just returned, to his cell to discover that the cookies and snacks, he had stashed away were confiscated As punishment for having food in his cell he got docked 15 minutes of rec time and. he's upset refusing to go back | there's a commotion. a teen named rudy is yelling. he just returned to his cell to discover that the cookies and snacks he had stashed away were confiscated. as punishment for having food in his cell, he got docked 15 minutes of rec time, and he's upset, refusing to go back inside. |
Rudy. Wait a minute; let me go get him. | rudy wait a minute let me go get | Rudy Wait a minute let, me go get | rudy. wait a minute; let me go get him. |
Bonnie Lacy is one of the guards working Unit 1. She walks towards Rudy, making eye contact. | bonnie lacy is one of the guards working unit 1. she walks towards rudy making eye | Bonnie Lacy is one of the guards working Unit 1. She walks towards Rudy making eye | bonnie lacy is one of the guards working unit 1. she walks towards rudy, making eye contact. |
Fifteen minutes for me. Thank you. | fifteen minutes for me thank | Fifteen minutes for me Thank | fifteen minutes for me. thank you. |
Fifteen minutes for me, she tells Rudy. With that, Rudy turns around, steps into his cell and closes the door. The superintendent and several guards told me they prefer to talk through conflicts like this with kids, but incidents can escalate quickly. According to county records obtained by Youth Radio, guards used pepper spray 147 times last year. The kicker - 90 percent of state-run juvenile correctional agencies don't allow guards to carry pepper spray. But here, with guards working an average of 30 hours of overtime per week, there's been an increase in the use of force on juvenile inmates, like guards performing takedowns or handcuffing inmates. The department calls these acts use of physical and mechanical restraints, and that number has nearly tripled in the last five years. Supervisor Ray Colon has been working for Alameda County Juvenile Hall for 25 years. | fifteen minutes for me she. tells, rudy with. that rudy turns around steps into his cell and closes the door the superintendent and several guards told me they. prefer to talk through, conflicts like this with kids but incidents can escalate quickly according. to county records obtained by youth radio guards used pepper spray 147 times last year the kicker - 90 percent of state-run juvenile correctional agencies don't allow guards to carry pepper spray but here with guards working an average of 30 hours of overtime per week there's been an increase in the use of force on juvenile inmates like guards performing takedowns, or handcuffing inmates the department calls these acts use of physical and mechanical, restraints and, that number has nearly tripled in the last five years supervisor ray colon has been working for alameda county juvenile hall for | Fifteen minutes for me she; tells Rudy With that Rudy turns. around steps into his cell and closes, the door The superintendent and several guards told me they prefer to talk through conflicts like this with. kids but incidents can escalate quickly According to county records obtained by, Youth Radio guards used pepper. spray 147 times last year The kicker - 90 percent of state-run juvenile correctional agencies don't allow. guards to carry pepper spray But here. with guards working an average of 30 hours of overtime per week there's been an increase in the use of force on juvenile inmates. like guards performing takedowns or handcuffing inmates The department calls these acts use; of, physical and mechanical restraints and that number. has nearly tripled in the last five years Supervisor Ray Colon has been working for Alameda County Juvenile Hall. for | fifteen minutes for me, she tells rudy. with that, rudy turns around, steps into his cell and closes the door. the superintendent and several guards told me they prefer to talk through conflicts like this with kids, but incidents can escalate quickly. according to county records obtained by youth radio, guards used pepper spray 147 times last year. the kicker - 90 percent of state-run juvenile correctional agencies don't allow guards to carry pepper spray. but here, with guards working an average of 30 hours of overtime per week, there's been an increase in the use of force on juvenile inmates, like guards performing takedowns or handcuffing inmates. the department calls these acts use of physical and mechanical restraints, and that number has nearly tripled in the last five years. supervisor ray colon has been working for alameda county juvenile hall for 25 years. |
You know, you've got just a couple of staff watch a number of kids, and things happen. | you know you've got just a couple of staff watch a number of, kids and things | You know you've got just a couple of staff; watch a number of kids and things | you know, you've got just a couple of staff watch a number of kids, and things happen. |
During waking hours, the state mandates a minimum of one guard for every 10 kids in detention. But Colon says... | during waking hours the state mandates a. minimum of one guard for every 10 kids in detention but colon | During waking hours the state mandates a minimum of one guard for every 10 kids in detention. But Colon | during waking hours, the state mandates a minimum of one guard for every 10 kids in detention. but colon says... |
The kids don't always get the services they should get because we're running short. They spend more time in their room, which is unfortunate, but it's the reality of not having the staff to complete the duties we need to do. | the kids don't always, get the services. they should get because we're running short they spend more, time in their. room which is unfortunate but it's the reality of not having the staff to, complete. the duties we need to, | The kids don't always get the services they, should get because, we're running short They spend more time. in their room which is unfortunate but it's the reality of not having the staff to complete the, duties; we need to | the kids don't always get the services they should get because we're running short. they spend more time in their room, which is unfortunate, but it's the reality of not having the staff to complete the duties we need to do. |
When they're short on guards, supervisors sometimes run what they call split recs - basically dividing recreation, exercise and dinner time in half. Fifteen kids come out while the other 15 remain in their cells. Eighteen-year-old Malik spent more than four months incarcerated in Alameda County Juvenile Hall. He says when young people are locked in their cells, tensions flare. | when they're short on guards supervisors sometimes run what they call split recs - basically. dividing recreation exercise and dinner time in half fifteen kids come out while. the other 15 remain in their, cells eighteen-year-old malik spent. more than four. months incarcerated in alameda county juvenile hall he says when young. people. are locked in their cells tensions | When they're short on guards supervisors sometimes run, what, they call split recs. - basically dividing recreation exercise and dinner time in half Fifteen kids come out while the other 15 remain in their cells Eighteen-year-old Malik, spent more than, four months incarcerated in Alameda County. Juvenile Hall; He says when young people. are locked in their cells tensions | when they're short on guards, supervisors sometimes run what they call split recs - basically dividing recreation, exercise and dinner time in half. fifteen kids come out while the other 15 remain in their cells. eighteen-year-old malik spent more than four months incarcerated in alameda county juvenile hall. he says when young people are locked in their cells, tensions flare. |
Man, more fights, more attitudes. You know, they want to be out their rooms. I mean, if I know that I have a guaranteed hour of PE each day no matter what, like, I'm going to be angry if I can't get that. | man more fights more attitudes you know they. want to be out their rooms i mean if i know that i have a guaranteed. hour of pe each day no matter what like. i'm going. to, be angry if i, can't get | Man. more fights more attitudes You know they want to be out their rooms I mean if I know that, I have a guaranteed hour of PE each day no matter what like I'm going to be angry; if, I can't get | man, more fights, more attitudes. you know, they want to be out their rooms. i mean, if i know that i have a guaranteed hour of pe each day no matter what, like, i'm going to be angry if i can't get that. |
While conditions for both the inmates and the guards have gone down, the costs have not. On average, there are only about 150 kids at Alameda County Juvenile Hall at any given time, and it costs $48 million a year to detain them. For NPR News, I'm Brett Myers. | while conditions for both the inmates and the guards have gone down; the costs have not on average there are only about 150 kids at alameda. county juvenile hall at any given time and it costs $48 million a year to detain them for npr news i'm brett | While conditions; for both the inmates and the guards have gone down the costs have not On average. there are, only about 150 kids at Alameda County Juvenile Hall at any given time and. it costs $48 million a; year to, detain them For NPR News I'm Brett | while conditions for both the inmates and the guards have gone down, the costs have not. on average, there are only about 150 kids at alameda county juvenile hall at any given time, and it costs $48 million a year to detain them. for npr news, i'm brett myers. |
And that story was produced by Youth Radio as part of their juvenile justice series Unlocked. | and that story was produced by youth radio as, part of their juvenile justice, series | And. that story was, produced by Youth. Radio; as part of their juvenile justice, series | and that story was produced by youth radio as part of their juvenile justice series unlocked. |
Republicans have been talking about reforming their party ever since President Obama was re-elected. Now the Supreme Court has weighed in on two huge issues, Obamacare and same-sex marriage, and some see a moment of opportunity for the GOP to move on to fresh issues and create a new image. But, as NPR national political correspondent Mara Liasson reports, change can be hard. | republicans have been talking about reforming their party ever since president obama was re-elected now the supreme court has weighed. in on, two huge issues obamacare and same-sex marriage and some see a moment of opportunity for the gop to move on to, fresh issues and create a new image but as npr national political correspondent mara liasson reports change can, be | Republicans have, been talking about reforming their party ever since President Obama was re-elected Now the Supreme. Court has weighed in on two huge issues Obamacare and same-sex marriage and some see a moment, of opportunity for the GOP to move on to fresh, issues and create a new image But, as, NPR national political, correspondent Mara Liasson reports change can be | republicans have been talking about reforming their party ever since president obama was re-elected. now the supreme court has weighed in on two huge issues, obamacare and same-sex marriage, and some see a moment of opportunity for the gop to move on to fresh issues and create a new image. but, as npr national political correspondent mara liasson reports, change can be hard. |
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