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Limes lives with her 4-year-old son and 8-year-old daughter. | limes lives with her, 4-year-old son and 8-year-old | Limes lives with her 4-year-old son, and 8-year-old. | limes lives with her 4-year-old son and 8-year-old daughter. |
And I also have my niece. She's 18 and she's been going from house to house. So I told her just come stay with me until, you know, she get on her feet. | and i also have my niece she's. 18 and she's been going from house to house so i told her, just come stay with me until you know she get on, her | And I also have my niece She's 18 and she's been going from. house to house, So I told her just come stay with me until you; know she get on her | and i also have my niece. she's 18 and she's been going from house to house. so i told her just come stay with me until, you know, she get on her feet. |
Her ailing father was living there, too, although he died shortly after this interview. Limes is pretty typical of those who end up in rent court - single mother juggling a lot on her own. She says the father of one of her children is in prison. The other is a deadbeat dad. She lost a full-time job last October, and her new one is only 20 hours a week. At $10.50 an hour, that's not nearly enough to cover her $1,275 a month rent. | her ailing father was living there too although. he died shortly after. this interview limes is pretty typical of those who. end up in rent court - single; mother juggling a lot; on her own she says the father of one of her children is in prison the other is a deadbeat dad she, lost a full-time job last october and her new one is only 20 hours a week at $10.50 an hour, that's not nearly enough to cover her $1,275 a month | Her ailing. father was living there too although he died shortly after this interview Limes is pretty. typical of those who end up in rent court - single mother juggling a lot, on her. own She; says the father; of, one of. her children is in prison The other is a deadbeat dad She lost a full-time job last October and her new one is only. 20 hours a week At $10.50 an, hour. that's not, nearly enough to cover; her $1,275 a month | her ailing father was living there, too, although he died shortly after this interview. limes is pretty typical of those who end up in rent court - single mother juggling a lot on her own. she says the father of one of her children is in prison. the other is a deadbeat dad. she lost a full-time job last october, and her new one is only 20 hours a week. at $10.50 an hour, that's not nearly enough to cover her $1,275 a month rent. |
They're living on a very tight margin. | they're living, on a very tight | They're living. on, a very tight | they're living on a very tight margin. |
Judge Judith Bartnoff presides over the D.C. court that includes the Landlord Tenant Branch. She thinks many of the thousands of tenants who come before the court each year can afford their rent at some point but just barely. | judge judith bartnoff, presides over the d.c court; that includes the landlord tenant branch she. thinks many of; the thousands of, tenants. who come before the court each year can afford their rent at some, point but just | Judge Judith Bartnoff presides over the D.C court that includes the Landlord Tenant Branch She thinks many of the thousands of tenants who come before the, court each year. can afford their rent at some point but just. | judge judith bartnoff presides over the d.c. court that includes the landlord tenant branch. she thinks many of the thousands of tenants who come before the court each year can afford their rent at some point but just barely. |
And if something happens, if somebody gets sick, if somebody gets hurt, if somebody loses their job, then it throws the whole system off. | and if something happens if somebody gets sick if somebody gets hurt if, somebody loses. their job then it throws, the whole system | And if something happens if somebody, gets sick. if, somebody gets hurt if somebody. loses their job then it throws the whole system | and if something happens, if somebody gets sick, if somebody gets hurt, if somebody loses their job, then it throws the whole system off. |
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Which is why the hallway outside the landlord Tenant court room is routinely packed with renters trying to work out a deal with their landlord's attorneys. Some offer payment plans so a tenant can catch up. But many renters just agree to move out, or like Meagen Limes, resign themselves to eviction, which doesn't solve a thing. | which is why the hallway outside. the landlord tenant court room is routinely packed with. renters trying to work out a deal with their landlord's, attorneys some offer payment, plans so a. tenant can catch; up but many renters just, agree to move out or like meagen, limes resign themselves to. eviction which doesn't solve a | Which is why the hallway outside the landlord Tenant court room is routinely packed with renters trying to work out a deal with their landlord's attorneys Some offer payment plans so a tenant can catch up But many renters just agree to, move out or like Meagen Limes resign themselves to eviction which doesn't solve a | which is why the hallway outside the landlord tenant court room is routinely packed with renters trying to work out a deal with their landlord's attorneys. some offer payment plans so a tenant can catch up. but many renters just agree to move out, or like meagen limes, resign themselves to eviction, which doesn't solve a thing. |
It really drives people deeper into a state of hardship. | it really drives people deeper into a state of | It. really drives people deeper into a state of | it really drives people deeper into a state of hardship. |
Harvard sociologist Matthew Desmond spent more than a year following low-income renters and landlords in Milwaukee, which he details in his new book called "Evicted." Desmond says evictions are not just a result of poverty but a cause, that it makes lives more unstable. People not only lose their homes... | harvard sociologist matthew desmond spent more than a year following low-income renters and landlords in milwaukee which he details in. his new book called "evicted" desmond says evictions are not. just a result of. poverty but a cause that it makes. lives more unstable people not only lose their | Harvard sociologist Matthew Desmond spent. more than a, year. following low-income renters and landlords in Milwaukee which he details in his new book called "Evicted" Desmond; says evictions are not just a result of poverty but a; cause that. it makes lives more unstable People not only lose their | harvard sociologist matthew desmond spent more than a year following low-income renters and landlords in milwaukee, which he details in his new book called "evicted." desmond says evictions are not just a result of poverty but a cause, that it makes lives more unstable. people not only lose their homes... |
But you often lose your neighborhood and your school. You know, children often have to switch schools and miss long stretches. | but you often lose your neighborhood and your school you know children often have to switch schools and miss long | But you often lose your neighborhood and your school You know children, often have to switch schools and miss long | but you often lose your neighborhood and your school. you know, children often have to switch schools and miss long stretches. |
And families often end up in areas with more crime and poorer-quality housing. Meagen Limes is worried about that. She wants to move, but even studio apartments are $800 a month, which she can't afford. | and families often end up in areas, with more crime and poorer-quality housing meagen limes, is worried about that she wants to move, but even studio apartments are $800 a month which she can't | And families often end up in areas with more crime and, poorer-quality housing Meagen Limes is worried about that She wants to move but even. studio apartments are $800 a, month which she, can't. | and families often end up in areas with more crime and poorer-quality housing. meagen limes is worried about that. she wants to move, but even studio apartments are $800 a month, which she can't afford. |
It's like I'm stuck here. I don't know where else to go. I don't want to go to the shelter. I'm trying to get help, but I can't find help anywhere. | it's like i'm stuck here i don't know where else to go i don't want to go to the shelter i'm trying to get help but i. can't find help | It's like, I'm stuck here I don't know where. else to go I don't want to go to the shelter I'm trying to get help but I can't find help | it's like i'm stuck here. i don't know where else to go. i don't want to go to the shelter. i'm trying to get help, but i can't find help anywhere. |
She did get some temporary assistance from the city a few years ago. But permanent housing aid is almost impossible to find. Limes applied eight years ago for vouchers to help cover her rent. | she did get some temporary assistance from the city, a few years ago, but permanent housing aid is almost impossible to find limes applied eight years ago for; vouchers to help cover her | She; did get some temporary assistance from the city a few years. ago But. permanent housing aid is almost impossible to find Limes applied eight, years ago for, vouchers to help cover her | she did get some temporary assistance from the city a few years ago. but permanent housing aid is almost impossible to find. limes applied eight years ago for vouchers to help cover her rent. |
And nothing. I'm still - what - 1,000-something. | and nothing i'm still - what | And nothing I'm still - what | and nothing. i'm still - what - 1,000-something. |
That's 1,000th on the waiting list. The city recently had to shut down the list because it had more than 70,000 names on it. Across the U.S., only 1 in 4 people who qualify for public housing or vouchers actually gets them. | that's 1,000th on the waiting list the; city recently, had to shut down the list because it had more than 70,000 names on it across; the u.s., only 1 in 4 people who qualify for public housing or vouchers actually gets | That's 1,000th on the waiting list, The city recently had to shut down the list because it, had more. than 70,000 names on it Across the U.S., only 1 in. 4 people who qualify for public, housing or vouchers actually gets | that's 1,000th on the waiting list. the city recently had to shut down the list because it had more than 70,000 names on it. across the u.s., only 1 in 4 people who qualify for public housing or vouchers actually gets them. |
Five weeks after my first visit with Limes, furniture was piled on the curb outside her apartment complex - mattresses, CDs, a flat-screen TV. Two other families had been evicted that day. But Limes was still waiting, worried that she and her kids would end up back in the city's homeless shelter where they lived in 2012. | five weeks after my first visit with limes furniture; was piled on. the curb outside; her apartment complex - mattresses cds a flat-screen tv two, other, families had been evicted that, day but limes was still waiting worried that she and her kids would end up back in the city's homeless shelter where they lived in | Five weeks after my first visit with Limes furniture was piled on the curb outside her apartment complex - mattresses CDs a flat-screen TV Two other families had been, evicted that day But Limes was still waiting worried that she and her, kids would end up back in the city's homeless. shelter where they lived in | five weeks after my first visit with limes, furniture was piled on the curb outside her apartment complex - mattresses, cds, a flat-screen tv. two other families had been evicted that day. but limes was still waiting, worried that she and her kids would end up back in the city's homeless shelter where they lived in 2012. |
Yeah. I tried to be like, well that's the point. That's why we're doing this because both in our American culture and in our Pakistani culture, there's a stigma. And she knows it because now she's afraid that people are going to know this about me and judge me for it. And it's going to make it harder for me to have a future the way she wants me to have a future. | yeah i. tried, to be like well that's the point, that's why. we're doing this because both in our american culture, and in our pakistani culture there's a stigma and she knows it because now. she's afraid that people are going to know this about me and judge me for it and it's, going to, make it harder for me to have. a, future. the way she wants me to have a | Yeah I tried to be like well that's the point That's why we're doing this because. both in our American culture and, in our Pakistani, culture there's a stigma And she knows, it because now she's afraid that people, are going to know this about me, and judge me for it And it's going to make it harder for me to have a future the, way she wants me to have a | yeah. i tried to be like, well that's the point. that's why we're doing this because both in our american culture and in our pakistani culture, there's a stigma. and she knows it because now she's afraid that people are going to know this about me and judge me for it. and it's going to make it harder for me to have a future the way she wants me to have a future. |
Hey Rose, can you hear us? | hey rose, can you hear | Hey Rose can you hear | hey rose, can you hear us? |
I can. | i, | I. | i can. |
I talked to Rose a few weeks after she'd sat down with her mom, and she said things didn't go at all as she'd hoped. | i talked to rose a few weeks after she'd, sat down with her mom and she said things didn't go at all as she'd | I talked to Rose a few weeks. after, she'd sat down with her mom and. she said things didn't go at all as she'd | i talked to rose a few weeks after she'd sat down with her mom, and she said things didn't go at all as she'd hoped. |
Where you have this one hour-long conversation, and then it's beautiful, and it's over. It's never going to be like that as much as I think we picture that to happen in our head. | where you have this one hour-long conversation. and then. it's beautiful and. it's over it's never going to be like that as much as i think we picture that to happen in our | Where you have this one hour-long conversation and then it's beautiful and, it's over It's never going to be like that as much as I; think we picture. that to happen in our | where you have this one hour-long conversation, and then it's beautiful, and it's over. it's never going to be like that as much as i think we picture that to happen in our head. |
And immediately afterwards, honestly, she says, she regretted sharing all this with her mom. But then later that night, Rose's mom started asking these little questions, trying to figure it all out. | and immediately afterwards honestly she says she regretted, sharing all this with her mom but then later. that night, rose's mom started asking these little questions trying. to figure it all | And. immediately afterwards, honestly she says she, regretted sharing all this. with her mom But then later that, night Rose's mom started asking these little questions; trying; to figure it all | and immediately afterwards, honestly, she says, she regretted sharing all this with her mom. but then later that night, rose's mom started asking these little questions, trying to figure it all out. |
Where did this start? What could I have done differently? Like, is this because I wouldn't let you wear makeup to school? And it felt like she was coming from a place of wanting to understand better rather than judging it. | where did this start? what could i have done differently? like is this because i wouldn't let you wear makeup to school? and it felt like she was. coming from a place of wanting to understand better rather than judging | Where did this start? What could I. have done differently? Like is this because I wouldn't let you wear makeup to school? And it felt like she was coming, from a place of wanting to understand better rather than judging | where did this start? what could i have done differently? like, is this because i wouldn't let you wear makeup to school? and it felt like she was coming from a place of wanting to understand better rather than judging it. |
And with a little time, Rose found herself during the same thing - trying to understand her mom's reaction instead of judging it. | and with a little time rose found herself during the same thing - trying to understand her mom's reaction instead of judging | And with a little time Rose found herself during the same; thing - trying; to understand. her mom's reaction instead of, judging | and with a little time, rose found herself during the same thing - trying to understand her mom's reaction instead of judging it. |
I've had years to come to terms with this knowledge about myself. And I gave her what may be an hour-long conversation and then expected her to, at the end of it, be totally understanding and calm and collected about it, which wasn't fair on my part. | i've had years to come to terms with this knowledge about myself and. i gave her what may be, an hour-long conversation and then expected her to at the. end of it be totally understanding and calm and collected about it which wasn't. fair. on my | I've, had years to come to, terms with this knowledge about myself And, I gave her what may be an hour-long conversation and then expected her to at. the end of it be totally understanding and calm and collected about it which wasn't fair on my | i've had years to come to terms with this knowledge about myself. and i gave her what may be an hour-long conversation and then expected her to, at the end of it, be totally understanding and calm and collected about it, which wasn't fair on my part. |
Rose says sharing and being open about mental health may ultimately help bridge this kind of culture gap, but you have to be ready for a process, not some kind of hit-and-run conversation. Laying everything out has helped her and her mom be more reflective. She says if that's the case, maybe it wasn't such a bad idea after all. For NPR News, I'm Kenny Malone in New York. | rose says sharing and being open about mental health may. ultimately help bridge this kind of culture gap but you have to be. ready, for a process not some kind of hit-and-run conversation laying everything out has helped her. and her mom be more reflective she says if, that's the case maybe it wasn't. such a, bad idea after all for npr news i'm kenny malone in new | Rose says. sharing and being open, about mental health may ultimately help bridge this kind of culture gap, but you have to be ready for a process, not some kind of hit-and-run, conversation Laying everything out has helped her and her mom be, more reflective She says if that's the case maybe it wasn't such. a bad idea after all For NPR News; I'm, Kenny Malone in New | rose says sharing and being open about mental health may ultimately help bridge this kind of culture gap, but you have to be ready for a process, not some kind of hit-and-run conversation. laying everything out has helped her and her mom be more reflective. she says if that's the case, maybe it wasn't such a bad idea after all. for npr news, i'm kenny malone in new york. |
That story comes to us from the Only Human podcast at member station WNYC. | that story comes to us from the only human podcast at member station | That story comes to. us, from the Only Human podcast at. member station | that story comes to us from the only human podcast at member station wnyc. |
The banana, at least the kind we usually see at the grocery store, is in trouble. An incurable fungal disease has been slowly spreading through banana-growing regions of the world, and scientists are on the hunt for a new version that is immune to the fungus. If they succeed, it could mean new banana flavors. NPR's Dan Charles reports. | the banana at least the kind we usually see at the grocery store is in trouble an incurable fungal disease has been slowly spreading through banana-growing regions of the, world and scientists are on the. hunt for a new, version; that is immune to, the fungus if they succeed it could mean new banana flavors npr's dan charles | The banana at least the kind we. usually see at the grocery store is in trouble, An incurable fungal disease has been slowly spreading through banana-growing regions of the, world and scientists are on the hunt; for a new version that is immune to the fungus If, they succeed it could mean new banana flavors NPR's Dan Charles | the banana, at least the kind we usually see at the grocery store, is in trouble. an incurable fungal disease has been slowly spreading through banana-growing regions of the world, and scientists are on the hunt for a new version that is immune to the fungus. if they succeed, it could mean new banana flavors. npr's dan charles reports. |
In the U.S., the bananas you find in the store are pretty much all alike. But in the market in Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, where shop owners get their bananas from farms on the island, you have choices. | in the u.s., the bananas you. find in the store are pretty much all alike but in the market. in mayaguez puerto. rico where shop owners get, their, bananas from farms on the. island you have | In the U.S., the bananas you find in the store are pretty much all alike But in the market, in Mayaguez Puerto Rico where shop owners get, their. bananas, from farms, on the island you have | in the u.s., the bananas you find in the store are pretty much all alike. but in the market in mayaguez, puerto rico, where shop owners get their bananas from farms on the island, you have choices. |
(Speaking Spanish). | (speaking | (Speaking | (speaking spanish). |
Brian Irish, a scientist who works for the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Tropical Research Station here, shows me lots of different bananas. There are tiny ones, red-skinned ones, plump ones. | brian irish a scientist who works for the u.s department of agriculture's tropical research station here shows me lots; of different bananas there are tiny ones red-skinned ones plump | Brian Irish a scientist; who works for the U.S Department of Agriculture's Tropical Research Station here shows me lots of different bananas There are tiny ones red-skinned ones plump | brian irish, a scientist who works for the u.s. department of agriculture's tropical research station here, shows me lots of different bananas. there are tiny ones, red-skinned ones, plump ones. |
There's a very popular banana here called Manzano, or apple banana. | there's a. very popular. banana here called, manzano or apple | There's a very popular banana here called Manzano or apple | there's a very popular banana here called manzano, or apple banana. |
He buys a few of them, and we go out to his car for a tasting. | he buys a few of them. and, we go out to his. car for. a | He, buys a few, of them and we go out to his, car for a | he buys a few of them, and we go out to his car for a tasting. |
Manzanos have a little bit of acid, a little puckering of your mouth, especially if they're not very ripe. | manzanos have a; little bit of; acid a little puckering of your mouth especially if they're not very | Manzanos have a little bit of acid a. little puckering of your mouth especially if they're, not very. | manzanos have a little bit of acid, a little puckering of your mouth, especially if they're not very ripe. |
This is a fabulous banana, though. | this is a fabulous banana | This is a fabulous; banana | this is a fabulous banana, though. |
Tasty. It's one of my favorite, too. I really like it. | tasty, it's one of my favorite too i really like | Tasty It's one of my favorite too I really like | tasty. it's one of my favorite, too. i really like it. |
But all of these bananas are vulnerable. There's a deadly fungus that attacks banana plants. In the past century, one version of this fungus wiped out commercial plantings of a variety called Gros Michel that used to dominate the global banana trade. And now history may be repeating itself. | but all of these bananas are vulnerable there's a deadly, fungus that attacks banana plants in the past century. one version of this fungus, wiped out commercial plantings of a variety called gros michel that used to dominate the global banana trade and now history may be repeating | But all of these bananas are vulnerable There's a deadly fungus that attacks banana plants In the past century one. version of this fungus wiped out commercial plantings of a variety called Gros Michel that, used to dominate the global; banana trade And now history may be repeating, | but all of these bananas are vulnerable. there's a deadly fungus that attacks banana plants. in the past century, one version of this fungus wiped out commercial plantings of a variety called gros michel that used to dominate the global banana trade. and now history may be repeating itself. |
A new version of the fungus, called Tropical Race Four, is killing off the current king of the bananas, a variety called Cavendish. That's the kind you see in every supermarket. Tropical Race Four has marched across China and Southeast Asia, laying waste to banana plantations. It's killing bananas in Australia, and cases have been reported in Southern Africa. So far, the fungus has not spread to Latin America, but it can travel on the smallest particle of soil. So when Brian Irish visited a banana plantation in Australia recently, he decided to leave his boots right there. | a. new version of. the fungus called tropical race four is killing off the. current king of the bananas a variety called cavendish that's the kind you see in every supermarket tropical race, four has marched across china and southeast asia, laying waste to, banana plantations it's killing bananas in australia and cases have been reported in southern africa. so far the fungus. has not, spread to latin america but it can travel on the smallest, particle of soil so when brian irish visited a banana plantation in australia recently he decided to leave his boots right | A new version of the fungus called Tropical Race Four is killing off the current king of the bananas a variety called Cavendish That's the kind you. see in every supermarket Tropical Race Four has marched across China and, Southeast Asia laying waste to. banana plantations It's, killing bananas in; Australia and cases have been reported in Southern Africa So far the fungus has not spread to Latin America but it can travel on the smallest particle of soil So when Brian, Irish visited a banana plantation in Australia recently he decided to leave his boots right | a new version of the fungus, called tropical race four, is killing off the current king of the bananas, a variety called cavendish. that's the kind you see in every supermarket. tropical race four has marched across china and southeast asia, laying waste to banana plantations. it's killing bananas in australia, and cases have been reported in southern africa. so far, the fungus has not spread to latin america, but it can travel on the smallest particle of soil. so when brian irish visited a banana plantation in australia recently, he decided to leave his boots right there. |
And not bring them back with me. | and not bring them back. with | And not bring them back with | and not bring them back with me. |
If you had really been attached to those boots, what would you have had to do? | if you had really; been attached to those boots what would you have had. to | If. you had really been attached to those boots what would you have had to | if you had really been attached to those boots, what would you have had to do? |
(Laughter) Cry. No, I mean, it's such a small sacrifice to make for such an important cause. | (laughter) cry no i mean it's such a small sacrifice to make for such an important | (Laughter) Cry. No, I mean it's such a small sacrifice to make for such an important | (laughter) cry. no, i mean, it's such a small sacrifice to make for such an important cause. |
Some people probably don't take those precautions, though. Gert Kema, an expert on tropical plant diseases at Wageningen University in the Netherlands, says the banana industry probably should prepare for the worst. | some people probably don't take those precautions though gert kema an expert on tropical plant diseases at. wageningen university. in the netherlands. says the banana industry probably should prepare for the | Some people probably don't take those precautions, though Gert Kema an expert. on tropical plant diseases at Wageningen University in the Netherlands says the banana industry probably. should prepare for the | some people probably don't take those precautions, though. gert kema, an expert on tropical plant diseases at wageningen university in the netherlands, says the banana industry probably should prepare for the worst. |
I think it's very realistic that this fungus will simply continue to spread. | i think it's very realistic that this fungus, will. simply continue to | I think it's very realistic, that this fungus will simply. continue to | i think it's very realistic that this fungus will simply continue to spread. |
So scientists, including Kema, are starting to search for a banana that could replace Cavendish, one that's immune to Tropical Race Four. And the search starts with banana collections like the one at the USDA's Tropical Research Station in Puerto Rico. Brian Irish walks me through this small forest of banana diversity. Bunches of red fruit dangle from some of the tall stalks, big green fruit from others. And some plants have barely any fruit at all. | so scientists including kema are starting to search, for a banana that could replace cavendish one that's immune to tropical race four and, the search starts; with; banana. collections like the one at the usda's tropical research station in puerto rico brian irish walks me through this small forest of banana diversity bunches of red fruit dangle from some of, the tall stalks big green, fruit from, others and some plants have barely any fruit at | So scientists including Kema are starting to search for a banana that. could replace Cavendish one that's immune to Tropical Race Four And the search starts; with banana collections; like the one at, the. USDA's Tropical Research Station. in Puerto Rico Brian Irish walks me through this small forest of banana diversity Bunches, of red fruit dangle from some of. the tall stalks big green fruit from others And some, plants, have barely any fruit at | so scientists, including kema, are starting to search for a banana that could replace cavendish, one that's immune to tropical race four. and the search starts with banana collections like the one at the usda's tropical research station in puerto rico. brian irish walks me through this small forest of banana diversity. bunches of red fruit dangle from some of the tall stalks, big green fruit from others. and some plants have barely any fruit at all. |
Many of them are wild. The have fruit very small with seeds in them. | many of them are, wild the. have fruit very small with seeds, in | Many, of them are wild The, have fruit very small with seeds in | many of them are wild. the have fruit very small with seeds in them. |
Irish grabs one tiny yellow banana and splits it open. It's full of black seeds hard as rocks. | irish grabs one tiny yellow banana and splits it open it's full of black seeds hard as | Irish grabs one tiny yellow banana and splits it open It's full of, black seeds hard as | irish grabs one tiny yellow banana and splits it open. it's full of black seeds hard as rocks. |
And how many in this small fruit - hundreds. So it's impossible to eat the pulp around these seed. | and, how many, in this small fruit - hundreds so it's impossible to eat the pulp around these | And how many in this small. fruit - hundreds So it's impossible, to eat the pulp around, these | and how many in this small fruit - hundreds. so it's impossible to eat the pulp around these seed. |
It may be useless to eat, but if it could withstand Tropical Race Four, it would be priceless. The only way to know is by exposing it to the disease - not here in Puerto Rico, of course. That would be crazy. Gert Kema is doing these experiments in greenhouses at Wageningen University, one of Europe's biggest centers of agricultural research. He's tested about 200 different kinds of bananas so far. Just a few can survive the disease. | it may be useless, to eat but if it could withstand tropical race four it. would be priceless the only way to know, is by exposing it to the disease - not here in puerto rico of course that would be crazy. gert kema is doing these experiments in greenhouses at wageningen university one of. europe's, biggest centers of agricultural research he's tested about 200 different kinds of bananas so far just a few can survive the | It may be useless to eat but if it could withstand. Tropical Race Four it would be priceless The only way to know is by exposing. it to the disease - not here in. Puerto Rico, of course. That would be. crazy Gert Kema is doing these. experiments in greenhouses at Wageningen University, one of Europe's biggest centers of agricultural research He's tested. about 200 different kinds of bananas so far Just a few can survive the | it may be useless to eat, but if it could withstand tropical race four, it would be priceless. the only way to know is by exposing it to the disease - not here in puerto rico, of course. that would be crazy. gert kema is doing these experiments in greenhouses at wageningen university, one of europe's biggest centers of agricultural research. he's tested about 200 different kinds of bananas so far. just a few can survive the disease. |
Less than 10 percent of the material we have tested is resistant to Tropical Race Four. | less than 10 percent of the material we have tested is. resistant to tropical race, | Less than, 10 percent of the material we have tested is resistant to Tropical Race | less than 10 percent of the material we have tested is resistant to tropical race four. |
And those plants that are often are varieties like that wild one with all the seeds, or they're plantains, not sweet bananas. | and those plants that. are often are varieties like. that wild one with all the seeds or they're plantains not sweet | And those plants; that are often are varieties like that wild one with all the. seeds or they're, plantains not sweet | and those plants that are often are varieties like that wild one with all the seeds, or they're plantains, not sweet bananas. |
Right now, we have nothing to replace Cavendish. | right now we have nothing to replace | Right now we have nothing to, replace | right now, we have nothing to replace cavendish. |
At the same time, you go out of the studio and, as I understand it, it's near the Ninth Ward so obviously not a situation where places were undamaged. | at the same time. you go out of the studio and as i understand it it's, near the ninth ward so obviously not a situation where places were | At the same time you go out of the studio and. as I understand it it's near the Ninth Ward so obviously not a situation where places were | at the same time, you go out of the studio and, as i understand it, it's near the ninth ward so obviously not a situation where places were undamaged. |
So the nightmare scenario is the disease slowly destroys large-scale banana production everywhere. But there's an optimistic scenario, too. Kema says plant breeders can take those few disease-resistant bananas and mate them with others that taste good, looking for offspring that contain the best traits of both. It can be done, Kema says, and in the best of all worlds, this breeding effort would come up with multiple varieties, not just one. | so the nightmare, scenario is the disease slowly destroys large-scale banana production everywhere but there's an optimistic scenario too kema says plant breeders can take those few disease-resistant bananas and mate them. with others that taste good looking. for offspring that contain. the best traits of both it can be done kema says and in the best of all worlds this breeding effort would come up with multiple varieties not just | So the nightmare scenario, is the disease slowly destroys. large-scale banana production everywhere But there's an optimistic scenario too Kema says plant breeders can take those few disease-resistant bananas and mate them with others that taste good looking for offspring. that, contain the best traits of both It can be done Kema says and in the best of all worlds this breeding. effort would come up with multiple; varieties not just | so the nightmare scenario is the disease slowly destroys large-scale banana production everywhere. but there's an optimistic scenario, too. kema says plant breeders can take those few disease-resistant bananas and mate them with others that taste good, looking for offspring that contain the best traits of both. it can be done, kema says, and in the best of all worlds, this breeding effort would come up with multiple varieties, not just one. |
Bringing more diversity into banana cropping is, I think, part of solving this problem. | bringing more diversity into banana cropping is i think part of solving this | Bringing more diversity into banana cropping is I think part of solving this | bringing more diversity into banana cropping is, i think, part of solving this problem. |
And if big plantations grow these varieties for export, consumers here might actually see the variety of banana colors and tastes that you could find now in the markets of places like Puerto Rico. Dan Charles, NPR News. | and if big plantations grow, these varieties for export consumers here might actually see the variety of banana colors, and tastes that you could find now in the markets of places like puerto rico dan charles npr | And if big plantations grow these varieties for export consumers here might actually see the variety of banana, colors and tastes that you could find now in the markets of places like Puerto Rico Dan Charles NPR | and if big plantations grow these varieties for export, consumers here might actually see the variety of banana colors and tastes that you could find now in the markets of places like puerto rico. dan charles, npr news. |
Now it's time for our trip to the Barbershop - that's our weekly conversation about what's in the news and what's on our minds. Sitting in the chairs for a shapeup this week are Goldie Taylor. She's editor at large for The Daily Beast. She's with us from the Radio Foundation Studio in New York City. Hi, Goldie. | now it's time, for our trip to the. barbershop, - that's our weekly conversation about what's in the news and what's on our minds sitting in the chairs for a, shapeup this week are goldie taylor she's editor at large. for the daily beast she's with us from the, radio foundation studio in new york city hi | Now it's time for our trip to the Barbershop - that's our weekly conversation about what's in, the, news and what's on our minds Sitting. in, the chairs for a shapeup this week are Goldie Taylor She's editor at large for. The Daily Beast, She's. with us from; the Radio Foundation Studio in New York City Hi; | now it's time for our trip to the barbershop - that's our weekly conversation about what's in the news and what's on our minds. sitting in the chairs for a shapeup this week are goldie taylor. she's editor at large for the daily beast. she's with us from the radio foundation studio in new york city. hi, goldie. |
Good afternoon. Hey, Michel. | good afternoon hey | Good, afternoon Hey, | good afternoon. hey, michel. |
Ann Hornaday is chief film critic for The Washington Post. She's here in Washington, D.C. Hi, Ann. | ann hornaday is chief film critic. for the washington post. she's here in washington d.c hi. | Ann. Hornaday is chief film critic for The Washington Post She's, here in Washington D.C Hi | ann hornaday is chief film critic for the washington post. she's here in washington, d.c. hi, ann. |
Hello, hello. | hello | Hello | hello, hello. |
And last but not least, NPR's own TV critic Eric Deggans. I think you're in Florida, right? Happy New Year. | and last but not least npr's own tv critic eric deggans i think you're in florida right? happy new | And last but not least NPR's own TV critic Eric Deggans I think you're in Florida right? Happy New; | and last but not least, npr's own tv critic eric deggans. i think you're in florida, right? happy new year. |
Yep, I'm in my office in St. Petersburg, yep, yep. | yep i'm in my. office in st petersburg yep, | Yep I'm in my office in St Petersburg, yep | yep, i'm in my office in st. petersburg, yep, yep. |
All right, so maybe it's because we have a little time off over the holidays and I had some time to actually watch some things that I don't normally do, but, you know, I had pop culture on my mind. But there's nothing light or fluffy about the first big story I wanted to ask you about, and that's Bill Cosby. And I think by now you have to know that dozens of women have accused Bill Cosby of sexually assaulting them. And most of these cases, they say he gave them drugs without their consent to get them to submit. Now, Cosby's never been criminally charged until this past week, when, with only a couple of days left under the statute of limitations, Pennsylvania's incoming Montgomery County district attorney filed charges against him in connection with one of those cases. And he's been arrested, arraigned and released on bail. And he says - and his attorneys say he will vigorously contest these charges. But Goldie, you have been writing about this. In fact, when you wrote about this for the October Ebony magazine cover - cover showed a picture of "The Cosby Show" TV family seen through smashed glass - that really seemed to push people's buttons. It was almost as if people could not accept the idea that this was even, you know, possibly true, right? | all right so maybe it's because, we have a little time off over the holidays and i had some, time to, actually, watch some things that i don't normally. do. but you know i had pop culture on. my mind but, there's nothing light or fluffy about the first big. story i wanted. to ask you about. and that's bill cosby and i think by now you have to. know that dozens. of women have accused bill cosby of sexually assaulting them and most of, these cases, they say, he gave them drugs without their. consent to get them to submit now cosby's never been criminally charged until this past week when with, only a couple of days left under the statute of, limitations pennsylvania's incoming montgomery county district attorney filed charges. against him in connection, with one. of those cases and he's been arrested arraigned and released on bail and he says - and his attorneys say, he will vigorously contest these charges but goldie you have been writing about this in fact when you wrote about this for the october ebony magazine cover - cover showed a picture of "the cosby show" tv family seen through smashed glass - that really seemed to push; people's buttons. it was almost as if people could not accept the idea that this was even you, know possibly true | All right so maybe it's, because we have a little time off. over the holidays and, I had some time to actually watch some things that I don't normally do but you know I had pop culture on my mind But there's nothing, light or fluffy about the first big story I, wanted to ask you about and that's Bill Cosby And I think, by now you have to know that dozens of women have accused Bill Cosby of sexually assaulting them And most of these. cases they say he gave them drugs without their consent to get them to submit Now Cosby's never been criminally charged until this past week when with only a couple of days left under the statute of limitations. Pennsylvania's incoming Montgomery County district attorney filed charges against him in connection with one of those cases. And he's been arrested arraigned and released on; bail And, he says - and his. attorneys say he will vigorously contest these charges But Goldie you have been writing about this In fact when you wrote about this for the October Ebony magazine cover - cover showed a picture of "The Cosby Show" TV family seen through smashed glass - that really seemed to push people's. buttons It was, almost as if people could not accept the idea that this was even you know possibly true | all right, so maybe it's because we have a little time off over the holidays and i had some time to actually watch some things that i don't normally do, but, you know, i had pop culture on my mind. but there's nothing light or fluffy about the first big story i wanted to ask you about, and that's bill cosby. and i think by now you have to know that dozens of women have accused bill cosby of sexually assaulting them. and most of these cases, they say he gave them drugs without their consent to get them to submit. now, cosby's never been criminally charged until this past week, when, with only a couple of days left under the statute of limitations, pennsylvania's incoming montgomery county district attorney filed charges against him in connection with one of those cases. and he's been arrested, arraigned and released on bail. and he says - and his attorneys say he will vigorously contest these charges. but goldie, you have been writing about this. in fact, when you wrote about this for the october ebony magazine cover - cover showed a picture of "the cosby show" tv family seen through smashed glass - that really seemed to push people's buttons. it was almost as if people could not accept the idea that this was even, you know, possibly true, right? |
Oh, sure... | oh. | Oh | oh, sure... |
That seems to be the reaction that people have. What's your reaction to this now? | that seems to be, the reaction that people have what's your reaction to this | That, seems to be the reaction that people have What's. your reaction, to this | that seems to be the reaction that people have. what's your reaction to this now? |
You know, I think that, you know, especially with regard to that cover that we were out to push a conversation that really wasn't happening at the time, and that was what do these allegations mean to the broader culture? What did "The Cosby Show" mean to the culture? And we're still really having - grappling with that conversation, even as he faces, you know, these criminal charges. Bill Cosby deserves due process. He deserves his day in court. But so then do these women. They deserve their day in court, and so often victims of sexual violence don't get that day. | you know i; think that; you know especially with regard to that cover that. we, were out, to push a conversation that really wasn't happening at the time and that was what do these allegations mean to the broader culture? what did "the cosby show" mean to the culture? and we're still really having, - grappling, with that conversation even as he faces you know these criminal charges bill cosby deserves due process he deserves. his day in court but so; then do these women they deserve their. day in court. and so often victims of sexual violence don't get that | You know I think that you know especially with regard to that cover that. we. were out to; push a conversation that really wasn't, happening at the time and; that was what do these allegations mean to the broader culture? What did "The Cosby Show" mean to the culture? And, we're still really having - grappling with, that conversation even as he faces you know these criminal charges Bill Cosby deserves due process He deserves his day in court But so then do these. women They deserve their day in court and so often victims. of sexual violence don't get that | you know, i think that, you know, especially with regard to that cover that we were out to push a conversation that really wasn't happening at the time, and that was what do these allegations mean to the broader culture? what did "the cosby show" mean to the culture? and we're still really having - grappling with that conversation, even as he faces, you know, these criminal charges. bill cosby deserves due process. he deserves his day in court. but so then do these women. they deserve their day in court, and so often victims of sexual violence don't get that day. |
You wrote in a piece for The Daily Beast that you never believed Bill Cosby, and you say that the worst thing Bill Cosby ever said was nothing. Tell us a little bit more about that. | you; wrote in a. piece for the daily beast that you never believed bill cosby. and you say that the worst thing bill cosby ever said was nothing tell us a little bit more about; | You wrote in a piece for. The Daily Beast that you never believed Bill Cosby, and you say that the worst thing Bill Cosby ever said was nothing Tell us a little, bit, more about | you wrote in a piece for the daily beast that you never believed bill cosby, and you say that the worst thing bill cosby ever said was nothing. tell us a little bit more about that. |
You know, I just think that looking back on - you know, and I'm a survivor myself. And the very first thing that you hear from an abuser's lips were, you know, things like, you know, they asked for it or, you know, she shouldn't have been dressed like that or - you know, there are all kinds of victim shaming that we engaged in. Bill Cosby, on the other hand, didn't say a word. He went on about his life. I call it sort of whistling past the graveyard. And in his silence, I heard a lot of other things, a lot of other people speaking on his behalf. And those were people who were his agents, his publicist, his lawyers shaming these women in ways that, you know - you know, were simply untenable to me. And then to turn around and to sue them for daring come forward, you know, with these allegations. | you know i just think, that looking back on - you know and i'm a survivor myself and the very first thing, that you hear from an abuser's lips were, you know things, like you know they. asked for it or you know she shouldn't have been dressed like that or - you, know there are all kinds, of victim shaming that we, engaged in. bill cosby on the other, hand didn't, say a word, he went on about his life i call it sort of whistling past the graveyard, and in. his; silence i heard a lot of other, things a lot of other people speaking on his behalf and those were people who were his agents his publicist his lawyers. shaming these women in ways. that you know - you. know; were simply untenable to me. and then. to turn around and to sue them for daring come forward you know, with these | You know. I just; think that looking back on - you know and I'm a survivor, myself And the very. first thing that you hear from an abuser's, lips were you know. things like you know they asked for it. or you know she shouldn't have been dressed like that or - you know there are all kinds of victim shaming, that we engaged in Bill Cosby on the other. hand didn't say a word He went on about his life I call it sort. of whistling past the graveyard And in his, silence I heard, a lot of other things a lot of other people speaking on his behalf. And those were people who were his agents his publicist his lawyers shaming these women in ways that you know - you know were simply untenable to, me And then to turn around and to, sue them for daring come forward you know with these | you know, i just think that looking back on - you know, and i'm a survivor myself. and the very first thing that you hear from an abuser's lips were, you know, things like, you know, they asked for it or, you know, she shouldn't have been dressed like that or - you know, there are all kinds of victim shaming that we engaged in. bill cosby, on the other hand, didn't say a word. he went on about his life. i call it sort of whistling past the graveyard. and in his silence, i heard a lot of other things, a lot of other people speaking on his behalf. and those were people who were his agents, his publicist, his lawyers shaming these women in ways that, you know - you know, were simply untenable to me. and then to turn around and to sue them for daring come forward, you know, with these allegations. |
Eric, jump in here. You've written about this, too. | eric jump in here you've written about this | Eric jump in; here You've. written about this | eric, jump in here. you've written about this, too. |
Yeah, if I can break in for a second. I mean, one of the things that's interesting to me - I'm helping NPR cover this, so I want to be careful about impugning guilt; you know, I have to try to be as evenhanded as possible. But if these allegations are true, that tactic that Goldie talked about has worked for him for a very long time. And I think Bill Cosby's downfall was when his public image began to become less laudatory. We want to believe that our movie stars and our TV stars are like the virtuous characters that they play on these TV shows and movies. And when he became the scold who was telling young black people and poor black people that they were the reason why they were having problems with the police or they were the reason why they were poor or they were the reason why they were being oppressed, suddenly, his public image became different. And he became much more vulnerable, and he never realized that... | yeah if i can break in for a second, i mean one of the, things that's interesting to me - i'm helping, npr cover this so i want to be careful about, impugning guilt you know i have to try, to be as evenhanded as possible but if these allegations are true that tactic that goldie talked about has worked for him for a very long time and i think bill. cosby's downfall was when. his public image began to become less laudatory we want to believe that our, movie stars and; our tv, stars are; like the virtuous, characters that, they play on these tv shows and movies and. when he became the scold who was telling young black people and poor black people that they were the reason why they were having problems. with the police or. they. were the reason why they were, poor or, they, were the reason why, they were being oppressed suddenly his public image became; different and he became, much more vulnerable, and he never realized | Yeah if I can break in for a. second I mean one of. the things that's interesting to. me, - I'm helping NPR cover this so; I want to be. careful, about impugning guilt you know I have to try to be as evenhanded, as possible But if these allegations are, true, that tactic that Goldie talked about. has worked for him for a very. long time And I think Bill. Cosby's downfall was when his. public image began. to become less laudatory We want to believe that our movie stars and our TV stars are like the virtuous characters that they. play on these TV shows and movies And when he became the scold who, was telling young black people and. poor black people that they were; the reason why they were having problems with the police or they were the reason why they were poor or they were the reason, why they were being oppressed suddenly his public image. became different And he became much more. vulnerable and he never. realized | yeah, if i can break in for a second. i mean, one of the things that's interesting to me - i'm helping npr cover this, so i want to be careful about impugning guilt; you know, i have to try to be as evenhanded as possible. but if these allegations are true, that tactic that goldie talked about has worked for him for a very long time. and i think bill cosby's downfall was when his public image began to become less laudatory. we want to believe that our movie stars and our tv stars are like the virtuous characters that they play on these tv shows and movies. and when he became the scold who was telling young black people and poor black people that they were the reason why they were having problems with the police or they were the reason why they were poor or they were the reason why they were being oppressed, suddenly, his public image became different. and he became much more vulnerable, and he never realized that... |
But - wait a minute, are you saying he's vulnerable - because these are criminal acts - that the only reason that his... | but - wait a minute are you saying. he's vulnerable - because these are criminal acts - that the only reason that | But - wait a minute are, you saying he's vulnerable - because these are criminal acts - that the only reason that | but - wait a minute, are you saying he's vulnerable - because these are criminal acts - that the only reason that his... |
I'm not saying the only reason. | i'm not saying. the only | I'm not saying the only | i'm not saying the only reason. |
...Criminal behavior is being pursued is that his public image is tarnished and - is that it? | ...criminal behavior is being pursued is that his public image is tarnished, and - is that; | ...Criminal behavior is being. pursued is that his public image is tarnished and, - is that | ...criminal behavior is being pursued is that his public image is tarnished and - is that it? |
I'm not saying the only reason, but it seems obvious that he used his tremendous public image to deflect questions about his behavior. And when he got to the point where that image was not able to deflect those questions anymore, people really began to pay attention to them. And the reason why the Hannibal Burress standup routine - this young black comic who called him out for being accused of rape - the reason why that's so important is because that was the voice of a younger generation who didn't grow up necessarily lauding - you know, lionizing Bill Cosby in the same way that people my age did. | i'm not saying the only reason but it seems obvious that he used his tremendous public image to deflect questions. about his behavior and when he got to the point where that image was not able to deflect those questions anymore people really began to pay attention to them and the reason why the hannibal burress standup routine - this young black comic. who called him out for being accused, of rape - the, reason why that's so important is because that was the voice of, a younger, generation who didn't grow up necessarily lauding - you. know lionizing bill cosby in the same way that people my age | I'm not saying the only reason but it seems obvious that he used his tremendous public image. to deflect questions about; his behavior And when he got to the point where that image was. not able to deflect those questions anymore. people really began to pay attention, to them And the reason why the Hannibal Burress standup routine - this young black comic who called him out for being accused of rape - the; reason why that's so. important is because that was the voice of a younger generation; who didn't grow up, necessarily lauding - you know lionizing Bill Cosby in the same way that people my age. | i'm not saying the only reason, but it seems obvious that he used his tremendous public image to deflect questions about his behavior. and when he got to the point where that image was not able to deflect those questions anymore, people really began to pay attention to them. and the reason why the hannibal burress standup routine - this young black comic who called him out for being accused of rape - the reason why that's so important is because that was the voice of a younger generation who didn't grow up necessarily lauding - you know, lionizing bill cosby in the same way that people my age did. |
And if I may... | and if i | And if I | and if i may... |
They weren't as - he didn't have that sort of hallowed space in their pop-culture lives that he may have had in our generation. And they felt, I think, freer to be harsher and look at him and say what's really going on here in a way that people who wanted to believe the Bill Cosby legend had more trouble doing. | they weren't as. - he didn't have that sort of hallowed space. in their pop-culture lives that, he may have had in our generation, and they felt. i think freer to be. harsher and look at him, and. say what's really, going on here in a way that people who wanted to believe the bill cosby legend had more trouble | They, weren't as - he. didn't have that sort of hallowed space in their pop-culture lives that he may have had in our generation And they felt I think freer to be harsher and look at him and say what's, really going on here in a way that people who wanted to believe the Bill Cosby legend had more trouble, | they weren't as - he didn't have that sort of hallowed space in their pop-culture lives that he may have had in our generation. and they felt, i think, freer to be harsher and look at him and say what's really going on here in a way that people who wanted to believe the bill cosby legend had more trouble doing. |
Ann Hornaday? | ann | Ann | ann hornaday? |
Don't like to speculate? | don't like to | Don't. like to | don't like to speculate? |
First, in southeast Michigan, a seasonal rite: the prairies are burning. These are set fires, controlled burns, to clear last year's withered stalks and to allow new growth. But you need a crew to mind the fires and make sure they don't run wild. From the Great Lakes Radio Consortium, producer Mark Brush watched and listened. | first in southeast michigan, a seasonal. rite: the prairies are burning these are set fires, controlled, burns, to clear; last year's withered stalks and to allow new growth, but you need a crew to mind the fires and make sure, they don't, run wild from the great lakes radio consortium producer, mark brush watched and | First. in southeast Michigan a seasonal rite: the prairies are burning These are set; fires controlled burns to clear last year's withered stalks and to allow new growth But you, need a crew to mind the fires, and make sure they don't run wild From the Great Lakes Radio Consortium producer Mark Brush watched and | first, in southeast michigan, a seasonal rite: the prairies are burning. these are set fires, controlled burns, to clear last year's withered stalks and to allow new growth. but you need a crew to mind the fires and make sure they don't run wild. from the great lakes radio consortium, producer mark brush watched and listened. |
Good morning. | good | Good, | good morning. |
Good morning. | good | Good | good morning. |
Hi. How's it going? | hi how's it | Hi How's it. | hi. how's it going? |
Good. How are you doing? | good how are you. | Good How are you | good. how are you doing? |
Good. | good. |
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A little dry. | a little. | A little | a little dry. |
It's pretty dry. | it's pretty, | It's pretty. | it's pretty dry. |
It's forecasted, I think, to be, like, 21 percent humidity. | it's forecasted; i think to, be like 21 percent | It's forecasted I think to be like 21 percent | it's forecasted, i think, to be, like, 21 percent humidity. |
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My name is David Mindell, and I am the burn boss for this project. I'm a contractor that does ecological restoration. | my. name is david mindell and. i am the burn boss for this project i'm a contractor that does ecological | My name is David Mindell and I am, the burn boss for this project I'm a contractor that does ecological | my name is david mindell, and i am the burn boss for this project. i'm a contractor that does ecological restoration. |
The first step is we'll just take a quick walk through and rake some of the fuel around stuff we don't want to burn. | the first, step is we'll just take a quick, walk through and rake some of the fuel around stuff we don't want to | The, first. step is we'll just take; a quick walk through and rake some of the fuel around stuff we don't want to | the first step is we'll just take a quick walk through and rake some of the fuel around stuff we don't want to burn. |
Yeah. This is the kind of thing that if fire got in here, it would burn for hours and hours and just put out a lot of smoke. | yeah this is the kind of thing that. if fire got in here it would burn for hours and hours and just put out a lot of | Yeah This is the kind of thing that if fire, got in here it would, burn for. hours. and hours and just put out a lot of | yeah. this is the kind of thing that if fire got in here, it would burn for hours and hours and just put out a lot of smoke. |
(Soundbite of raking) | (soundbite of | (Soundbite of | (soundbite of raking) |
My name's Lee Root, and I just--I'm a burn crew member. | my name's lee root and i just--i'm a burn crew | My name's. Lee Root and I just--I'm a burn crew | my name's lee root, and i just--i'm a burn crew member. |
I'm filling up what's known as an Indian tank. It's a backpack frame that has a water tank and a hand pump. So you can see where the blacktop is? If that was our fire and we didn't want the fire to come onto the grass, we would just... | i'm filling. up what's known as an indian tank it's a backpack frame, that has a water tank and a hand pump so you can see where the blacktop is? if that, was our fire and we didn't want the fire to come onto the. grass we would | I'm filling up what's known, as an Indian tank It's a backpack frame that; has a water tank and a hand pump So you can see where the blacktop is? If that was our fire and we didn't want the fire to come onto, the grass, we would | i'm filling up what's known as an indian tank. it's a backpack frame that has a water tank and a hand pump. so you can see where the blacktop is? if that was our fire and we didn't want the fire to come onto the grass, we would just... |
(Soundbite of water spraying) | (soundbite of water | (Soundbite of water | (soundbite of water spraying) |
...spray like that, and that would prevent the fire from crossing over. | ...spray like that and that would prevent the fire from crossing | ...spray like that and that would prevent the fire. from crossing | ...spray like that, and that would prevent the fire from crossing over. |
Well, my name's Ross Orr. I've been working with David for a couple of years. And we're wearing these crazy screaming yellow body suits that are flame-retardant fabric and they also just help keep us cool from the radiant heat of the burn. Big cumbersome helmets with visors that flip up and down. | well my name's ross. orr i've been, working with david for a couple of years and. we're wearing these, crazy; screaming, yellow body suits that are flame-retardant fabric and they also just help keep us cool from the; radiant heat of the burn big cumbersome helmets with visors that flip, up and | Well my name's Ross Orr. I've been working with David for a couple. of years And we're wearing these. crazy screaming yellow body suits that are flame-retardant fabric and they, also just help keep us cool from. the radiant heat of, the, burn Big cumbersome helmets with visors that flip up and | well, my name's ross orr. i've been working with david for a couple of years. and we're wearing these crazy screaming yellow body suits that are flame-retardant fabric and they also just help keep us cool from the radiant heat of the burn. big cumbersome helmets with visors that flip up and down. |
(Soundbite of visor flipping up and down) | (soundbite of visor flipping up and | (Soundbite of, visor flipping up and | (soundbite of visor flipping up and down) |
We'll ignite using drip torches, which are these canisters filled with a mixture of diesel and gas. It's got a wick on the end, a burning wick, and as you tip the canister, it dribbles the gas-diesel mix across the wick and trails fire as you go. | we'll ignite using drip torches which are these. canisters filled. with a mixture of diesel and gas, it's got a wick on the end a burning wick and as you tip the canister, it dribbles the gas-diesel mix across the wick and trails fire as you, | We'll ignite using drip torches which are these canisters filled with a mixture of diesel and gas It's got a wick on the end a burning wick and as you tip the canister it dribbles, the gas-diesel mix, across the wick and trails fire as you | we'll ignite using drip torches, which are these canisters filled with a mixture of diesel and gas. it's got a wick on the end, a burning wick, and as you tip the canister, it dribbles the gas-diesel mix across the wick and trails fire as you go. |
(Soundbite of fire crackling) | (soundbite of fire, | (Soundbite of fire | (soundbite of fire crackling) |
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