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(Through translator) This raises the question whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the contrary. My reply is that one would like to be both; but it is difficult to combine love and fear. If one has to choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved. | (through translator) this raises the question whether it. is better to be loved than feared or the. contrary my. reply is that one, would like to be both but it is difficult to combine love and fear if one has to choose between, them it is far safer to be feared than | (Through translator) This raises the question whether it is better to be loved than. feared or, the contrary My reply is that, one would like to be both but it is difficult to, combine love and fear If one has to choose between, them. it is far safer to be feared than | (through translator) this raises the question whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the contrary. my reply is that one would like to be both; but it is difficult to combine love and fear. if one has to choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved. |
Machiavelli's "The Prince" was written in a time of political upheaval. He used direct language and dry humor to address the problems one could expect when setting out to overthrow an existing state. | machiavelli's "the prince" was written in a time of political upheaval he used direct; language and, dry humor to address the problems one could expect when setting out to, overthrow an existing | Machiavelli's "The Prince" was written in a time, of political upheaval He used direct language and dry humor to address the problems one could; expect when setting out to overthrow an existing. | machiavelli's "the prince" was written in a time of political upheaval. he used direct language and dry humor to address the problems one could expect when setting out to overthrow an existing state. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
Unidentified Man #1: Whoa. Politician Reid Ribble has a worse idea. Ribble wants to phase out Social Security. | unidentified man #1: whoa politician reid ribble has a worse idea ribble wants to phase out social | Unidentified Man #1: Whoa Politician Reid Ribble has a worse idea, Ribble wants, to phase out Social | unidentified man #1: whoa. politician reid ribble has a worse idea. ribble wants to phase out social security. |
Okay, Bill Adair. So those are some of the finalists for lie of the year as chosen by PolitiFact.com. Here we go. The drama is intense. What, in your view, is the lie of the year? | okay bill adair so those are some of the finalists for lie of the year. as chosen by politifact.com here we go the, drama is intense what in your view is the; lie of the | Okay Bill Adair So those are some of the finalists for. lie of the year as. chosen by PolitiFact.com Here we go The drama is, intense What in your view is the lie. of the | okay, bill adair. so those are some of the finalists for lie of the year as chosen by politifact.com. here we go. the drama is intense. what, in your view, is the lie of the year? |
The claim that the Democratic healthcare law is a government takeover of healthcare. | the claim that the democratic healthcare law. is a government takeover of | The claim that the Democratic healthcare law is a government takeover of, | the claim that the democratic healthcare law is a government takeover of healthcare. |
What's wrong with that? | what's wrong. with | What's wrong with, | what's wrong with that? |
Well, it's just ridiculously false. The plan relies on private insurance companies, and in fact private insurance companies are actually going to end up with more business because of the law, and yet it was a refrain we heard again and again. It was definitely the most pervasive falsehood of the year. | well it's just ridiculously false the plan relies on private insurance companies and in fact private insurance companies are actually going to, end up with. more. business because of the. law and yet it was a refrain we heard again and again. it was definitely the most pervasive falsehood of the, | Well it's just ridiculously false The plan relies on; private insurance companies and in. fact private insurance companies are actually going to. end up with more business because of the law and. yet it was, a refrain we heard again and again It was definitely the most pervasive falsehood of the | well, it's just ridiculously false. the plan relies on private insurance companies, and in fact private insurance companies are actually going to end up with more business because of the law, and yet it was a refrain we heard again and again. it was definitely the most pervasive falsehood of the year. |
Let's hear that phrase as used again and again in different ways by various politicians this year. | let's hear that phrase as used, again and again in different ways by various politicians this | Let's hear that phrase as used again and again in different ways by various politicians this | let's hear that phrase as used again and again in different ways by various politicians this year. |
Unidentified Man #2: People don't want a government takeover of healthcare. | unidentified man #2: people don't want a government takeover, of | Unidentified Man #2: People don't want a, government takeover of | unidentified man #2: people don't want a government takeover of healthcare. |
Cradle to grave government takeover of the... | cradle to grave, government takeover of, | Cradle to grave government takeover. of | cradle to grave government takeover of the... |
Unidentified Man #3: ...the government takeover, just as they are with other aspects of our economy. | unidentified man #3: ...the government takeover just as they are with other aspects of our | Unidentified Man #3: ...the government takeover just. as, they are with other aspects of our | unidentified man #3: ...the government takeover, just as they are with other aspects of our economy. |
And let's clarify here. You can say that this is a dumb law, that it doesn't work, that it's going to cost more than the president claims. You can say that it increases government regulation. You can even say, as a federal judge did this week, that part of it is unconstitutional. | and let's clarify here you can. say that. this, is, a dumb law that it doesn't work that it's. going to cost more than the president claims you can say that it increases government regulation you can even say as a federal. judge did this week that part of it is | And. let's clarify here You can say that this is. a dumb, law that. it doesn't. work that it's going to cost more than the president claims You can say that it increases government regulation You can, even say as a federal judge did, this week that part of it is | and let's clarify here. you can say that this is a dumb law, that it doesn't work, that it's going to cost more than the president claims. you can say that it increases government regulation. you can even say, as a federal judge did this week, that part of it is unconstitutional. |
You're specifically saying, though, that it's wrong to say it's government takeover. | you're specifically saying though that it's wrong to say it's government. | You're specifically saying though that. it's wrong to say it's government | you're specifically saying, though, that it's wrong to say it's government takeover. |
Exactly. There's no question that it increases government regulation. There's no question, as you said, that there is a mandate for individuals to have health coverage. But the phrase government takeover suggests a Canadian or a British-style system where the government runs the hospitals, employs the doctors. And of course that's the intent here. | exactly there's no question that it increases government regulation there's no question as, you said that there is a; mandate for, individuals to have health coverage but the phrase government takeover suggests; a canadian or a british-style system where the government runs the hospitals employs the. doctors and of course that's. the intent | Exactly There's no question that it increases government regulation There's no question as. you said that there is a; mandate for individuals, to have health coverage, But the phrase government takeover, suggests, a Canadian or a British-style system where the government runs the hospitals employs the doctors And of course that's the intent | exactly. there's no question that it increases government regulation. there's no question, as you said, that there is a mandate for individuals to have health coverage. but the phrase government takeover suggests a canadian or a british-style system where the government runs the hospitals, employs the doctors. and of course that's the intent here. |
The intent is to scare people about it and to make them think that the healthcare system is going to become this big bureaucracy. And that's not to say it's not that way now. | the intent is to scare people about it and to make them think that the healthcare system is going to, become this big bureaucracy and that's not to say it's not that way | The intent is to scare people about it and to make them think that, the healthcare system is going to become this big bureaucracy And that's not to say it's not that way; | the intent is to scare people about it and to make them think that the healthcare system is going to become this big bureaucracy. and that's not to say it's not that way now. |
Yeah. | yeah. |
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But it is not going to be a government takeover. | but it. is not going to be a government | But it is not. going to be a government | but it is not going to be a government takeover. |
I want to ask about a refinement of this argument. We interviewed earlier this year Texas Governor Rick Perry, who was a fierce opponent of the healthcare law, and he referred to a government program, and we asked him to clarify what he meant. Let's listen. | i want to ask, about a refinement of this argument; we interviewed earlier; this year texas. governor rick perry who was a fierce. opponent of, the, healthcare law and he, referred to a government program and; we asked him to clarify what he meant let's | I want to ask about a refinement of this argument We interviewed earlier this; year Texas Governor Rick Perry who was a fierce opponent of the healthcare law and he referred to a government program and we asked him to clarify what he meant Let's | i want to ask about a refinement of this argument. we interviewed earlier this year texas governor rick perry, who was a fierce opponent of the healthcare law, and he referred to a government program, and we asked him to clarify what he meant. let's listen. |
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(Governor, Texas): Forcing us all to buy health insurance from, you know, a Washington-devised program is - is faulty on its face and I think unconstitutional as well. | (governor texas): forcing, us all to buy health insurance from you know a washington-devised. program is. - is faulty on its face and i think unconstitutional as | (Governor Texas): Forcing us all to buy health insurance from you know a Washington-devised program. is - is faulty on its face and I think unconstitutional, as | (governor, texas): forcing us all to buy health insurance from, you know, a washington-devised program is - is faulty on its face and i think unconstitutional as well. |
Oh, you're referring to the healthcare law which eventually will require just about everybody to buy health insurance, most likely from a private company, correct? | oh you're referring to the healthcare law which eventually will require just about everybody to buy health insurance most likely from a private company | Oh you're referring to the healthcare law which, eventually will require just about. everybody to buy health insurance, most likely from a private, company | oh, you're referring to the healthcare law which eventually will require just about everybody to buy health insurance, most likely from a private company, correct? |
Yes. And I think it's set up to fail. The private companies will end up not being able to make a profit, and they will fail and the government will take over. I mean, I think that's the that's the template. | yes and i think it's set; up to fail the private companies will end up not being able to, make a profit and they will fail and the government will take over i mean i. think that's the that's the | Yes And I think it's set. up to fail The private companies will end up not being able to make, a profit and they will fail and the government, will take over I mean I think that's the that's the | yes. and i think it's set up to fail. the private companies will end up not being able to make a profit, and they will fail and the government will take over. i mean, i think that's the that's the template. |
Seems to be acknowledging it's not a government takeover, but he's making the slippery slope argument here. | seems to be acknowledging it's not a government takeover but, he's making the, slippery slope argument | Seems to be acknowledging, it's not a government takeover but he's making the slippery slope argument | seems to be acknowledging it's not a government takeover, but he's making the slippery slope argument here. |
And the slippery slope argument is a perfectly legitimate opinion. But what happened here was it became a shorthand, and that's where it became inaccurate. | and the slippery slope argument is a perfectly legitimate opinion. but what happened here was it. became a shorthand and that's where it became | And the slippery slope argument is. a perfectly, legitimate opinion But what, happened. here was it became a shorthand and that's where it became | and the slippery slope argument is a perfectly legitimate opinion. but what happened here was it became a shorthand, and that's where it became inaccurate. |
Bill Adair of PolitiFact.com, thanks for coming by all year long. | bill adair of politifact.com thanks for coming by all year | Bill Adair of PolitiFact.com thanks for coming by all year | bill adair of politifact.com, thanks for coming by all year long. |
Thanks, Steve. | thanks, | Thanks | thanks, steve. |
A senior leader of the Mormons, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, recently stirred up a controversy with his remarks about gays. Gay rights groups say the statements are dangerous, inaccurate and could lead to more gay teen suicides. From member station KUER in Salt Lake City, Jenny Brundin reports.� | a senior leader of the mormons the church of jesus, christ of latter, day saints recently stirred up a controversy with his remarks, about gays. gay rights groups say the statements are dangerous inaccurate and could lead to, more gay teen suicides from member station kuer in salt lake city jenny brundin | A senior leader. of the Mormons the Church of Jesus Christ, of Latter Day, Saints recently stirred up a, controversy with his. remarks about gays Gay rights, groups say the. statements are dangerous inaccurate and could lead to. more gay teen. suicides From. member station KUER in Salt Lake City Jenny Brundin | a senior leader of the mormons, the church of jesus christ of latter day saints, recently stirred up a controversy with his remarks about gays. gay rights groups say the statements are dangerous, inaccurate and could lead to more gay teen suicides. from member station kuer in salt lake city, jenny brundin reports.� |
Tuesday afternoon, about a dozen gay rights leaders approached one of the tallest buildings in Salt Lake City, the Mormon church headquarters. They were carrying a box. | tuesday afternoon about a dozen gay rights leaders approached one of the tallest buildings in salt lake. city, the mormon church headquarters they were carrying a | Tuesday afternoon. about a dozen gay rights leaders approached one of the tallest buildings in Salt Lake City the Mormon church headquarters They were, carrying a | tuesday afternoon, about a dozen gay rights leaders approached one of the tallest buildings in salt lake city, the mormon church headquarters. they were carrying a box. |
(Unintelligible) nice to meet you. | (unintelligible) nice to meet | (Unintelligible) nice to. meet | (unintelligible) nice to meet you. |
Church spokesperson Scott Trotter greeted them and took the cardboard box, containing 150,000 signatures from people across the country. Theyre upset by these recent statements about gays and lesbians from church leader Boyd K. Packer.� | church spokesperson. scott trotter, greeted them and took the cardboard box containing 150,000 signatures. from people across the country theyre, upset by these recent. statements about gays and lesbians from church leader boyd k | Church spokesperson Scott Trotter greeted, them and took the cardboard, box containing 150,000 signatures from people across the. country Theyre upset, by, these recent statements about gays and lesbians from church leader Boyd, K | church spokesperson scott trotter greeted them and took the cardboard box, containing 150,000 signatures from people across the country. theyre upset by these recent statements about gays and lesbians from church leader boyd k. packer.� |
Mr. BOYD K. PACKER (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints): Some suppose that they were preset and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and the unnatural. Not so. Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone?� | mr boyd k packer. (church of jesus christ of latter day saints): some. suppose that they were preset and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and the unnatural not so why; would our heavenly father do; that to | Mr BOYD K PACKER (Church of Jesus. Christ of Latter Day. Saints): Some suppose that. they were preset and. cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and the unnatural Not so. Why would our Heavenly Father do that to | mr. boyd k. packer (church of jesus christ of latter day saints): some suppose that they were preset and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and the unnatural. not so. why would our heavenly father do that to anyone?� |
We want to tell men like Boyd K. Packer that we are tired of watching our children die. | we want to tell men like boyd k packer that we are tired of watching our children | We want to tell men like Boyd K Packer that we are, tired of watching our children | we want to tell men like boyd k. packer that we are tired of watching our children die. |
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Eric Ethington of Pride in Utah organized an earlier protest against the church. Thousands dressed in black lay silently, head-to-toe, circling a six block perimeter. Among them was 24-year-old Zachary Reichert. Hes gay and was raised Mormon. He says his mother supports him. But his father wants him to go to therapy to make him straight.� | eric ethington of pride in utah, organized an earlier protest. against the church thousands dressed in black lay silently head-to-toe circling a six. block perimeter among. them was 24-year-old zachary reichert hes gay and was raised mormon he says his mother supports him. but his father wants him to go to therapy to make him | Eric Ethington of Pride in Utah organized. an earlier protest against the church Thousands dressed in black lay silently head-to-toe circling a six block; perimeter Among them was 24-year-old Zachary Reichert Hes, gay and was raised Mormon He says his mother supports him But his father wants him to go, to therapy. to make him | eric ethington of pride in utah organized an earlier protest against the church. thousands dressed in black lay silently, head-to-toe, circling a six block perimeter. among them was 24-year-old zachary reichert. hes gay and was raised mormon. he says his mother supports him. but his father wants him to go to therapy to make him straight.� |
I was on the verge of thinking of suicide, and that really was luckily I have a great sister, but it was really hard and I really do understand why kids think about it, because religions have a huge impact on your life. | i was on the verge of thinking of suicide and that really was luckily i. have a great sister but it was really hard and i really do understand. why kids think about it because religions have a huge impact on. your | I, was on. the verge of, thinking of suicide and that really was luckily I have a great sister but it was really hard and I really do understand why kids think about it because religions have a huge impact on your | i was on the verge of thinking of suicide, and that really was luckily i have a great sister, but it was really hard and i really do understand why kids think about it, because religions have a huge impact on your life. |
The Mormon leaders sermon came on the heels of several gay teen suicides across the country. And Human Rights Campaign director Joe Solomonese says thats particularly harmful. | the mormon; leaders sermon came on the, heels of several gay teen suicides across the, country and human rights campaign director joe solomonese says thats particularly | The Mormon leaders sermon came on the heels, of several gay teen suicides. across the country, And. Human Rights; Campaign director Joe Solomonese. says thats particularly | the mormon leaders sermon came on the heels of several gay teen suicides across the country. and human rights campaign director joe solomonese says thats particularly harmful. |
The danger with the statements that he made is that they will be believed as revealed truth and then used by some to rationalize discrimination or violence and by others to perpetuate a self-loathing or suicide. That is simply not acceptable conduct by a man who should know better.� | the danger. with the statements that he made is that they will be believed as revealed truth, and then used by some. to, rationalize discrimination or violence and by others. to perpetuate a self-loathing or. suicide that is simply not acceptable conduct by a man who should know | The danger with the. statements that he made is that they will be believed as revealed, truth and then used by some to rationalize discrimination or violence and, by others to perpetuate a self-loathing or suicide That is simply not. acceptable conduct by a man who should know | the danger with the statements that he made is that they will be believed as revealed truth and then used by some to rationalize discrimination or violence and by others to perpetuate a self-loathing or suicide. that is simply not acceptable conduct by a man who should know better.� |
Solomonese says there's a moral imperative to correct Packers statements. He noted that the American Psychological Association and other groups have found that same-sex attraction is normal, and that therapies to make people straight cause harm.� | solomonese says there's a moral imperative to correct packers statements he, noted that the american psychological association. and other groups have found that same-sex attraction is normal and, that therapies to make people straight cause | Solomonese says there's a moral imperative to correct Packers statements He noted that the, American Psychological Association and other groups. have found. that same-sex attraction is normal and that therapies to make. people straight cause | solomonese says there's a moral imperative to correct packers statements. he noted that the american psychological association and other groups have found that same-sex attraction is normal, and that therapies to make people straight cause harm.� |
Wow. | wow. |
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For example, the study by the National Academy of Sciences recommends creating an independent organization to oversee forensic techniques. | for example the study by the national academy of sciences recommends creating. an independent organization to oversee forensic | For example the study by the National Academy of Sciences recommends creating. an independent. organization to oversee forensic | for example, the study by the national academy of sciences recommends creating an independent organization to oversee forensic techniques. |
There is no entity like this right now. And hence, what you're seeing, is that every entity of the existing ones is just pulling in their own way. | there is no entity like this right now and hence what you're seeing is that every entity of, the existing ones is just pulling in their own | There is no entity like this right now And hence, what, you're seeing is that every, entity of the existing ones, is just pulling in their, own | there is no entity like this right now. and hence, what you're seeing, is that every entity of the existing ones is just pulling in their own way. |
Dr. Constantine Gatsonis co-chaired the committee that wrote the forensic science report. | dr, constantine gatsonis co-chaired the committee that wrote the forensic science | Dr Constantine Gatsonis co-chaired the committee that wrote the forensic science | dr. constantine gatsonis co-chaired the committee that wrote the forensic science report. |
My personal opinion is that real progress is going to be very difficult to make without such an entity. | my personal opinion, is that real progress is going to be very difficult. to make without such an | My personal opinion is that real progress is going to be very difficult to make, without such an | my personal opinion is that real progress is going to be very difficult to make without such an entity. |
But realistically that proposal now looks all but dead. Scott Burns is executive director of the National District Attorneys Association. | but realistically that proposal now looks all but dead scott burns is executive, director, of the national district attorneys | But realistically that proposal now looks all but dead Scott Burns is executive director of the National District Attorneys | but realistically that proposal now looks all but dead. scott burns is executive director of the national district attorneys association. |
We don't agree with setting up a national institute of forensic science, another bureaucracy. | we don't agree with setting up a national institute of forensic science another | We don't agree with setting up a national institute of forensic science another | we don't agree with setting up a national institute of forensic science, another bureaucracy. |
Congress will be the one to actually make these decisions. And a Senate Judiciary Committee staffer confirmed that in this economic climate creating a new body to oversee forensic sciences seems unlikely. | congress will be the one to, actually make these decisions and, a, senate judiciary, committee. staffer confirmed that in this economic. climate creating a new body to oversee forensic sciences seems | Congress will be the one to actually make these decisions And a Senate Judiciary Committee staffer confirmed that in this economic climate creating a new body to oversee forensic sciences seems | congress will be the one to actually make these decisions. and a senate judiciary committee staffer confirmed that in this economic climate creating a new body to oversee forensic sciences seems unlikely. |
There are some things everyone agrees on, says Burns of the District Attorneys Association. | there are some things everyone; agrees on says burns of the district attorneys | There are some things everyone agrees on says, Burns of the District Attorneys | there are some things everyone agrees on, says burns of the district attorneys association. |
Clearly accreditation of all private and public labs is important, that we ought to certify the analysts and the scientists. We've got to come up with some standards that everybody agrees are appropriate. | clearly accreditation of, all, private and public, labs; is; important that we ought to certify the analysts, and the scientists we've got, to come up with some standards that everybody agrees are | Clearly accreditation of all private and public labs is important that we ought to certify the. analysts, and, the scientists We've got, to, come up with some standards, that everybody agrees are | clearly accreditation of all private and public labs is important, that we ought to certify the analysts and the scientists. we've got to come up with some standards that everybody agrees are appropriate. |
And everyone agrees some areas will need further research. For example, Bohan - of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences - points to shaken baby syndrome. Parents and caregivers have been convicted of murder on the theory that a certain type of internal bleeding is almost always caused by shaking a baby. | and everyone agrees some areas will need further research for. example bohan - of the american academy of forensic sciences - points to shaken baby syndrome parents and caregivers have been convicted of murder on the; theory that a certain type of internal bleeding is almost always. caused by shaking a | And everyone agrees some areas; will need further research For example Bohan - of the, American Academy of Forensic Sciences - points to, shaken baby, syndrome Parents and caregivers have been, convicted of murder on the theory. that a certain type of, internal bleeding. is almost always. caused by shaking a | and everyone agrees some areas will need further research. for example, bohan - of the american academy of forensic sciences - points to shaken baby syndrome. parents and caregivers have been convicted of murder on the theory that a certain type of internal bleeding is almost always caused by shaking a baby. |
We have respected people on both sides in the medical profession speaking very loudly, and now, more and more, with greater and greater vitriol, as to whether that theory is legitimate. And so to get off of go we've got to have somebody like the National Academy of Sciences look at all of the studies that are put forth as validating that theory — and see whether they're valid. | we have respected people on both sides in the medical profession speaking very loudly and now more, and more with, greater and greater vitriol as to whether that, theory is legitimate and so to get off of go we've got to. have somebody like the national academy of sciences look at. all of the studies, that are put forth as validating that theory — and see whether they're | We have respected people on both sides in the medical profession speaking very loudly and now more and more, with greater, and greater vitriol as to. whether that theory is legitimate And so, to get, off of go we've got to have somebody like the National Academy of Sciences look at all of the studies that are put forth as validating that theory — and see whether. they're | we have respected people on both sides in the medical profession speaking very loudly, and now, more and more, with greater and greater vitriol, as to whether that theory is legitimate. and so to get off of go we've got to have somebody like the national academy of sciences look at all of the studies that are put forth as validating that theory — and see whether they're valid. |
The money for studies and everything else has to come from Congress. All summer, constituent groups have been meeting with lawmakers and their staff, trying to win over the decision-makers. | the money for studies and everything else has. to come from congress all summer constituent groups have been meeting with lawmakers and their staff trying to win over, the | The money for studies and everything else has to come, from Congress All summer constituent groups have been meeting. with lawmakers and their staff trying to win over the | the money for studies and everything else has to come from congress. all summer, constituent groups have been meeting with lawmakers and their staff, trying to win over the decision-makers. |
Dr. Gatsonis, who wrote the study, says this seems typical. | dr gatsonis who. wrote the. study says this seems | Dr Gatsonis who wrote, the study says this seems | dr. gatsonis, who wrote the study, says this seems typical. |
What is happening, I think, at this point, is the various constituencies are trying to see how best the report fits into their own agendas. | what is happening i, think at this point is the various constituencies are trying to see how best the report fits into their own | What is happening I, think. at this point is the various constituencies are trying to see how best, the report fits into their own | what is happening, i think, at this point, is the various constituencies are trying to see how best the report fits into their own agendas. |
Gatsonis says, as a scientist he's disappointed, but as a citizen he's not surprised. | gatsonis says as a scientist he's disappointed but as a citizen he's not | Gatsonis says as a scientist he's disappointed but as a citizen he's not | gatsonis says, as a scientist he's disappointed, but as a citizen he's not surprised. |
Ari Shapiro, NPR News, Washington. | ari, shapiro npr news, | Ari Shapiro NPR News | ari shapiro, npr news, washington. |
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The documents released by the Justice Department also included emails in which Bruce Ivins described himself as being, at times, paranoid and delusional. NPR's health policy correspondent Joanne Silberner is here with more on what is known about Ivins's state of mind. Good morning, Joanne. | the documents released by the justice department also included emails in which bruce ivins described himself as being at times paranoid and delusional npr's health policy correspondent joanne silberner is here with more on what is known about. ivins's state of mind good morning | The documents released by the Justice Department also included emails in which Bruce Ivins described, himself as being at times paranoid and delusional NPR's health policy correspondent. Joanne Silberner is here, with more on what, is known about Ivins's state of mind Good morning | the documents released by the justice department also included emails in which bruce ivins described himself as being, at times, paranoid and delusional. npr's health policy correspondent joanne silberner is here with more on what is known about ivins's state of mind. good morning, joanne. |
Good morning, Renee. | good morning | Good morning | good morning, renee. |
Now, there's been a lot of hearsay, unnamed sources quoted in this investigation. What do we know for sure about Bruce Ivins? | now there's been a. lot of hearsay unnamed sources quoted in this investigation what do we know for sure, about bruce | Now there's been a lot of hearsay unnamed sources quoted in this. investigation What do we know for sure about Bruce | now, there's been a lot of hearsay, unnamed sources quoted in this investigation. what do we know for sure about bruce ivins? |
For absolutely sure, not all that much. There are no full medical reports from psychiatrists or other comments that have been made public on the medical end of it. Now the government claims he sought help from a psychiatrist and was on medication as of February 2000, and there was that report that from 2000 to 2006 he was prescribed antidepressants, anti-psychotics and anti-anxiety drugs. | for absolutely. sure not all that much there are no full medical reports from psychiatrists or other comments that have been made public on; the medical end of it now. the government claims he sought help from a psychiatrist and was on medication as of february 2000, and there was that report, that from 2000 to 2006 he was prescribed antidepressants; anti-psychotics and anti-anxiety | For absolutely sure not all that much There are. no full medical reports from psychiatrists or other comments that have been made public; on the medical end of it Now the government claims he sought help from a psychiatrist and was, on medication as of February. 2000, and there, was that report; that from 2000 to 2006 he was prescribed antidepressants anti-psychotics and anti-anxiety | for absolutely sure, not all that much. there are no full medical reports from psychiatrists or other comments that have been made public on the medical end of it. now the government claims he sought help from a psychiatrist and was on medication as of february 2000, and there was that report that from 2000 to 2006 he was prescribed antidepressants, anti-psychotics and anti-anxiety drugs. |
Now, that doesn't tip someone into violence or homicide certainly. The other evidence that's on the record: there's testimony from a counselor at a local clinic, and his lawyer talked a little bit about his mental status. And there were emails, and some of them were in the Department of Justice release yesterday. | now that doesn't tip someone into violence, or homicide certainly, the. other. evidence. that's on the record: there's testimony from a. counselor at a local clinic and his lawyer talked a little bit about his mental status and there, were emails and. some of them were in the department of justice, release | Now that doesn't tip someone into violence or homicide certainly The other evidence that's on the record: there's testimony from a. counselor at a local clinic and his lawyer talked a little bit about his, mental status And there were emails and some of them were in the, Department of Justice release | now, that doesn't tip someone into violence or homicide certainly. the other evidence that's on the record: there's testimony from a counselor at a local clinic, and his lawyer talked a little bit about his mental status. and there were emails, and some of them were in the department of justice release yesterday. |
Let's get to those emails. I just mentioned one thing in them, that he had described himself as paranoid, for instance, but what else did they have to say? | let's get to those emails i just mentioned one thing in them. that he had described himself as paranoid for instance but what else did they have to | Let's get to those emails, I just mentioned one, thing in them that he had. described himself as paranoid for instance. but what else did they have to, | let's get to those emails. i just mentioned one thing in them, that he had described himself as paranoid, for instance, but what else did they have to say? |
Well, let's just take an email from June of 2000. On it he wrote to a friend that he was on the antidepressant Celexa. He said that he had depressive episodes that came and went. And he said he was suffering from paranoid episodes where he felt like he was outside of his body and watching himself. And then a month later he emailed the friend saying that his psychiatrist and counselor say - and I'm going to read this, it's a quote - he said that my symptoms may not be those of a depression or bipolar disorder; they may be that of a paranoid personality disorder. | well let's just take an email from june of 2000. on it he wrote. to a friend that he, was on the antidepressant celexa he said that he had depressive episodes, that came, and went and he. said he was suffering from paranoid episodes where he felt like he, was, outside. of his body and watching himself and then a month; later he; emailed the friend saying that his psychiatrist and counselor say - and i'm; going to read this, it's a quote - he said that; my symptoms may not, be those of a depression or bipolar disorder they may be; that, of a paranoid personality | Well let's just. take an email, from June. of 2000. On it he wrote to a friend, that he was on the antidepressant. Celexa He said, that he had depressive episodes that came and went And he said he was suffering from paranoid. episodes where he, felt. like he was outside of his. body and watching himself, And then a month later he emailed; the friend saying that his psychiatrist and counselor say - and I'm going. to, read this it's a quote - he said that my symptoms may not be those of a depression or bipolar disorder they may be that of a paranoid personality | well, let's just take an email from june of 2000. on it he wrote to a friend that he was on the antidepressant celexa. he said that he had depressive episodes that came and went. and he said he was suffering from paranoid episodes where he felt like he was outside of his body and watching himself. and then a month later he emailed the friend saying that his psychiatrist and counselor say - and i'm going to read this, it's a quote - he said that my symptoms may not be those of a depression or bipolar disorder; they may be that of a paranoid personality disorder. |
Now, this is from before the 9/11 and the anthrax attacks, right? So do authorities have much information about his life or his state of mind more recently? | now this is from, before the 9/11 and the anthrax attacks right? so do authorities have, much information, about his life or his state of mind more | Now this is from before the 9/11 and the anthrax. attacks right? So do authorities have much information about his life. or his state of mind more | now, this is from before the 9/11 and the anthrax attacks, right? so do authorities have much information about his life or his state of mind more recently? |
Well, that's also really sketchy. I mean, we do know that he was certainly under a lot of pressure. The FBI was searching his home, his office and his car. And he complained to friends that they were harassing his family. As for psychiatric care, he was in some form of group therapy. It was led by a drug and alcohol counselor, but you know, again, there's no records on that. Mental health records are generally kept very quiet. | well that's also really sketchy i mean we do. know that he, was certainly under a lot of pressure the fbi was searching his home his office and his car and he, complained to friends. that they were harassing his family as for, psychiatric care he was in some form of group therapy it was led, by. a, drug. and alcohol counselor but you know again there's no records. on that mental health records. are generally kept very | Well that's also really sketchy I mean we. do know that he was certainly under a lot of pressure The FBI was searching his home, his office and, his car And he complained to. friends that. they were harassing his family As for psychiatric care he was in some form of group therapy, It was led by. a drug and alcohol counselor but you know again there's no records. on that Mental health records are generally kept very | well, that's also really sketchy. i mean, we do know that he was certainly under a lot of pressure. the fbi was searching his home, his office and his car. and he complained to friends that they were harassing his family. as for psychiatric care, he was in some form of group therapy. it was led by a drug and alcohol counselor, but you know, again, there's no records on that. mental health records are generally kept very quiet. |
And what I'm going to tell you next comes from court testimony by the group's counselor. She said on July 9th Ivins told the group he intended to kill some of his coworkers because he was about to be indicted on capital murder charges, and she said he had the means to do it. And she said she'd gotten him committed to a psychiatric inpatient facility on July 10th and that she was worried about her own personal safety when he got out because of a couple of phone calls that he had made to her, a couple of phone mail messages that he had left. | and what i'm going to; tell you, next comes from court testimony by the group's, counselor she said on july 9th ivins told the group he intended to kill some of his coworkers because he was about to be indicted on capital murder charges and she said he had the means, to do it and, she said she'd, gotten him committed to. a psychiatric inpatient facility on july 10th and that she was. worried about her, own personal safety when he got. out because of a couple of. phone calls that he. had made, to her a couple of phone mail messages, that he had | And what I'm going to; tell you next comes from court testimony by the group's counselor She said on July 9th Ivins told the. group he intended to kill some of his, coworkers because he was about. to be indicted on, capital murder charges and she said he had, the means to do it And she said she'd gotten him committed to a psychiatric inpatient facility on July, 10th and that she was worried about her own personal. safety when, he got out because of a couple of phone calls that he had made to her a couple of phone mail messages that he had; | and what i'm going to tell you next comes from court testimony by the group's counselor. she said on july 9th ivins told the group he intended to kill some of his coworkers because he was about to be indicted on capital murder charges, and she said he had the means to do it. and she said she'd gotten him committed to a psychiatric inpatient facility on july 10th and that she was worried about her own personal safety when he got out because of a couple of phone calls that he had made to her, a couple of phone mail messages that he had left. |
Now, she made these statements on July 24th and that's when she filed for a restraining order against him. She said she feared for her personal safety when Ivins got out of the institution. | now she made these statements on july 24th and that's when she filed for a restraining, order against him she said she feared for her. personal safety when ivins got out of the | Now she. made these statements on July 24th and that's when she filed for a. restraining order against, him She, said she feared for her personal, safety when Ivins got out of the | now, she made these statements on july 24th and that's when she filed for a restraining order against him. she said she feared for her personal safety when ivins got out of the institution. |
Joanne, tell us a little bit more about this counselor. There's been reporting that's brought up some questions about possibly her own credibility. | joanne tell us a little bit more about this counselor there's been reporting that's brought up some questions about possibly her own | Joanne tell us a little bit more. about this counselor There's been reporting that's brought up some questions, about possibly, her own | joanne, tell us a little bit more about this counselor. there's been reporting that's brought up some questions about possibly her own credibility. |
Thousand of people on the boat start to sing the national anthem when they lower the flag. And they cry, cry, cry. | thousand of people on the boat start to sing the national anthem when they lower the flag and they cry cry | Thousand of people on the boat, start to sing the national anthem when they lower the flag And they, cry cry | thousand of people on the boat start to sing the national anthem when they lower the flag. and they cry, cry, cry. |
According to Professor Ascoli, Machiavelli was a scrupulous satirist, describing, not advocating, a form of political behavior. | according. to; professor ascoli machiavelli was a scrupulous satirist describing not advocating a form of political | According to Professor. Ascoli Machiavelli, was a scrupulous satirist describing not advocating a form of political | according to professor ascoli, machiavelli was a scrupulous satirist, describing, not advocating, a form of political behavior. |
Machiavellian doesn't describe Machiavelli himself very well, and I would say it also doesn't describe his books very well. | machiavellian doesn't describe machiavelli himself very well and i would, say it also doesn't describe; his books very | Machiavellian doesn't describe Machiavelli himself very well and I would say it also doesn't describe his books very | machiavellian doesn't describe machiavelli himself very well, and i would say it also doesn't describe his books very well. |
Machiavelli's "The Prince" is purposely ambiguous. One can read it as black humor or sage advice. But while Machiavelli's work is open to interpretation, his name, especially when used by a politician, will have a very specific and very negative connotation — as it has for centuries. | machiavelli's "the prince" is, purposely ambiguous; one can read it as black humor or, sage advice but while machiavelli's work. is. open to interpretation his name especially when used. by a politician will have a very specific and very negative. connotation — as. it has; for | Machiavelli's "The Prince" is purposely ambiguous; One can read it as, black humor or sage advice But while Machiavelli's work is open to interpretation his name especially when used by a politician will have a very specific. and very negative connotation — as it has for | machiavelli's "the prince" is purposely ambiguous. one can read it as black humor or sage advice. but while machiavelli's work is open to interpretation, his name, especially when used by a politician, will have a very specific and very negative connotation — as it has for centuries. |
For NPR News, I'm Rick Kleffel. | for npr news i'm rick | For NPR News I'm Rick | for npr news, i'm rick kleffel. |
Commentator Christian Bauman made the transition from solider to civilian and remembers it was not easy. | commentator christian bauman made the transition from solider to civilian and remembers it was not | Commentator Christian Bauman made the transition from solider to civilian and remembers, it was not | commentator christian bauman made the transition from solider to civilian and remembers it was not easy. |
I got out of the Army in 1995 after a four-year enlistment that took me to Somalia and Haiti. The Army offered classes on networking and resume writing and job interview skills, but like most former grunts, I wasn't headed for corporate America. | i got out, of the army in 1995 after a four-year enlistment that took me to somalia and, haiti. the army offered classes on networking and resume writing and job interview skills. but like most, former grunts. i wasn't headed, for corporate, | I got out of the Army in, 1995 after a four-year enlistment that took me to Somalia and Haiti The, Army offered classes on networking and resume writing and job interview skills, but like most former grunts I wasn't headed for corporate | i got out of the army in 1995 after a four-year enlistment that took me to somalia and haiti. the army offered classes on networking and resume writing and job interview skills, but like most former grunts, i wasn't headed for corporate america. |
Back in my hometown, I scoured the want ads and found an opening for a records clerk at a local hospital. They agreed to see me the next day. I figured no other institution could approach the slow, blood-thick, papered bureaucracy of the United States Army. They gave the Army a run for their money at Hunterdon Medical Center, though, sure enough. | back in my hometown i scoured the want ads and found an opening for a records clerk at a, local hospital they agreed to see me the next day i figured no other institution could approach the slow blood-thick papered bureaucracy of the united states army they gave the, army a run for their money at hunterdon, medical center though sure | Back in my, hometown I scoured the, want ads. and found an opening for a records clerk at a local hospital They agreed to see me the next day I figured no other institution could; approach the slow blood-thick papered bureaucracy of the United States Army They gave the Army a run for their money at Hunterdon Medical Center though sure | back in my hometown, i scoured the want ads and found an opening for a records clerk at a local hospital. they agreed to see me the next day. i figured no other institution could approach the slow, blood-thick, papered bureaucracy of the united states army. they gave the army a run for their money at hunterdon medical center, though, sure enough. |
In the bowels of the records room, the dark tools of clerkdom were laid out on a long worktable like little bureaucrats neat in a line; two-hole punch, three-hole punch, standard stapler, industrial stapler, staple remover, white-out, highlighter, and at the very end of the table, business end up, an electric paper shredder. A clear progression across the table, a progression in the life of paperwork. Punch it, staple it, fold it, file it, unfile it, rework it, throw it out. The paraphernalia of this profession made me uneasier than even my army rifle had. | in the bowels of the records room the dark tools of. clerkdom. were laid out on a long worktable like little. bureaucrats neat in a line two-hole punch three-hole punch, standard stapler industrial stapler staple remover white-out highlighter and at the very end of the table business end up an electric paper shredder a clear progression across the table a progression in the, life of paperwork punch it staple it fold it file it unfile it rework it throw it out the paraphernalia of this, profession made me uneasier than, even my army rifle | In the bowels of the records room, the dark tools of clerkdom were laid out on a long worktable like little bureaucrats neat in a line two-hole. punch three-hole punch standard stapler industrial; stapler staple remover white-out highlighter and at the very end of the table. business end up an electric paper shredder A clear progression across; the; table a progression in the life of paperwork Punch it staple it fold it file it unfile it rework it, throw it out The paraphernalia of this profession made me uneasier than. even my army. rifle. | in the bowels of the records room, the dark tools of clerkdom were laid out on a long worktable like little bureaucrats neat in a line; two-hole punch, three-hole punch, standard stapler, industrial stapler, staple remover, white-out, highlighter, and at the very end of the table, business end up, an electric paper shredder. a clear progression across the table, a progression in the life of paperwork. punch it, staple it, fold it, file it, unfile it, rework it, throw it out. the paraphernalia of this profession made me uneasier than even my army rifle had. |
The workplace tour and job interview were conducted by a pale hospital administrator in a gray suit. Toward the end of the interview, this man paused, squinted at me, then said, It can get pretty tense in here, you know, a lot of pressure. I'm wondering if you'll be able to handle that kind of pressure. | the workplace, tour and job interview were conducted by a pale hospital administrator in a gray suit toward the end of the interview this, man paused squinted at, me then said. it can, get pretty tense in here you know a lot of pressure i'm wondering if you'll be; able to handle that kind of | The workplace. tour and job. interview were conducted by a pale, hospital administrator in a gray suit Toward the end of. the interview this man paused squinted at me; then said It can get pretty, tense in here you know a lot of pressure I'm, wondering if you'll, be able to handle that kind of | the workplace tour and job interview were conducted by a pale hospital administrator in a gray suit. toward the end of the interview, this man paused, squinted at me, then said, it can get pretty tense in here, you know, a lot of pressure. i'm wondering if you'll be able to handle that kind of pressure. |
One year prior to this, I'd been in a foreign country with a rifle in my hand, the second of two wars in two years. I'd had people above and below who counted on me, friends who without hesitation would have given their life to save mine. I'd lived days without sleep, weeks without a shower or hot meal. | one year prior to. this i'd been in, a foreign country with a rifle in my hand the second of two wars in two years, i'd had people above and below who counted on me; friends who without hesitation would have given their life to save mine i'd lived days without sleep weeks without a shower, or hot | One. year, prior to this; I'd been in a foreign country with a rifle in my hand the second of two wars in, two years I'd had people above. and below who counted. on me friends who without hesitation would have given their life to save mine I'd lived. days, without sleep weeks without a shower or hot | one year prior to this, i'd been in a foreign country with a rifle in my hand, the second of two wars in two years. i'd had people above and below who counted on me, friends who without hesitation would have given their life to save mine. i'd lived days without sleep, weeks without a shower or hot meal. |
Now I looked around the dusty records room of this hospital and at this administrator in his gray suit. The Army had paid a basic but living wage with 100 percent healthcare for my family. This job would pay me nine bucks an hour, with a third of that gone if I wanted benefits. | now i, looked around the, dusty records room of this hospital and at this administrator in, his gray suit the army had, paid a basic but living wage with 100 percent; healthcare for my family this job would. pay me nine bucks an hour, with a third of that gone if i wanted | Now I looked around the dusty records room of this hospital and at this administrator in his gray suit The Army had paid a basic but; living wage. with, 100 percent healthcare. for my family This job would pay, me nine bucks an hour with a third of that gone if I wanted | now i looked around the dusty records room of this hospital and at this administrator in his gray suit. the army had paid a basic but living wage with 100 percent healthcare for my family. this job would pay me nine bucks an hour, with a third of that gone if i wanted benefits. |
I wanted to answer this man's question by standing up and walking out, never to return. I wanted to walk all the way back to Virginia, where there was a platoon of guys who knew what I was worth. Truth is, though, when you have a family to support, what you're worth is often not the point. I didn't walk out. Instead, I just looked down and said simply, I think I'll be able to handle this job okay. | i wanted to answer this man's question by standing, up and walking out. never to return i wanted to walk all the way back to virginia where there was a platoon, of guys who knew what i was worth truth is though when you have a family to support, what you're worth is often not the point, i didn't walk out instead i just looked down and said simply i think i'll be able to handle this job | I wanted to answer this man's question by, standing up and walking out never to return I wanted. to walk, all the way back to Virginia where. there was a platoon of guys who knew what I was, worth Truth is though when you have a family to, support what you're worth, is often not the point, I didn't walk, out Instead I just looked down and said simply I think I'll be able to handle this job | i wanted to answer this man's question by standing up and walking out, never to return. i wanted to walk all the way back to virginia, where there was a platoon of guys who knew what i was worth. truth is, though, when you have a family to support, what you're worth is often not the point. i didn't walk out. instead, i just looked down and said simply, i think i'll be able to handle this job okay. |
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Writer Christian Bauman's new novel Voodoo Lounge is set during the American occupation of Haiti in 1994. He lives in Bucks County, Pennsylvania. | writer christian bauman's new novel voodoo lounge is set during the american occupation of haiti. in 1994. he; lives in bucks county | Writer Christian Bauman's new novel Voodoo Lounge is set during the American occupation of Haiti in 1994. He lives in Bucks County | writer christian bauman's new novel voodoo lounge is set during the american occupation of haiti in 1994. he lives in bucks county, pennsylvania. |
From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Melissa Block. | from npr news this is all things considered i'm melissa | From NPR News this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED I'm Melissa | from npr news, this is all things considered. i'm melissa block. |
And I'm Robert Siegel. | and i'm robert | And I'm Robert, | and i'm robert siegel. |
Now that the California state legislature has voted to legalize same-sex marriage, the issue goes to the desk of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. And the question is: Will Schwarzenegger, who is generally considered liberal on social issues, sign it or veto it? Phil Matier writes about politics for the San Francisco Chronicle. | now that the california state. legislature has voted to legalize same-sex marriage the issue goes to the desk of governor arnold schwarzenegger and the question is: will schwarzenegger who is; generally considered liberal on social issues sign it. or veto it? phil matier writes about politics for the san francisco | Now that. the California, state legislature has voted to legalize same-sex marriage the issue goes to the desk of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger And the question, is: Will Schwarzenegger who is generally considered liberal on social issues sign it, or veto it? Phil Matier writes about politics for the San Francisco | now that the california state legislature has voted to legalize same-sex marriage, the issue goes to the desk of governor arnold schwarzenegger. and the question is: will schwarzenegger, who is generally considered liberal on social issues, sign it or veto it? phil matier writes about politics for the san francisco chronicle. |
And, Phil Matier, Arnold Schwarzenegger is the first governor to face this question, and what is he known to think about it? | and phil matier arnold schwarzenegger is the first governor to face this question and what is he known to think about | And Phil Matier Arnold Schwarzenegger. is the first governor to face this question and what is he. known to think about; | and, phil matier, arnold schwarzenegger is the first governor to face this question, and what is he known to think about it? |
Well, he hasn't said anything directly, but this much we know: that he is in favor, or he has no problem with domestic partners. That's what gay marriage has been up to this point. On the other hand, he's said that he wants it to be the will of the people or the courts to decide, you know, that California is working its way through the courts on the whole question of whether or not banning gay marriages is legal. That stems out of the San Francisco `weddings Woodstock' that we had here. And then there's also this question on Proposition 22 which was passed by the voters years ago that said, `No, we're not going for gay marriage.' | well he hasn't, said anything directly but this. much we know: that he is in. favor or he has no problem with domestic partners that's what gay marriage has been up to this point on the, other hand he's said that he wants it to be the will; of the people or the courts to decide you know that california is working its way through the courts on the whole question of whether or not banning gay marriages is legal that stems out of the san francisco `weddings. woodstock' that we had here and then there's also this, question on proposition, 22 which was passed by the voters years ago that said `no we're not going. for gay | Well he hasn't said anything directly but this, much we know: that he. is in favor or he has; no problem with domestic partners That's what gay marriage has been up to this point On the other hand he's said that, he wants it, to be the will of the people or the courts to decide you know that California. is working its way. through the courts on. the whole question of whether or not banning gay. marriages is legal That, stems out of the San Francisco `weddings Woodstock' that we, had here And then there's also this question on. Proposition 22 which was passed by the voters years ago, that said. `No we're not going for gay | well, he hasn't said anything directly, but this much we know: that he is in favor, or he has no problem with domestic partners. that's what gay marriage has been up to this point. on the other hand, he's said that he wants it to be the will of the people or the courts to decide, you know, that california is working its way through the courts on the whole question of whether or not banning gay marriages is legal. that stems out of the san francisco `weddings woodstock' that we had here. and then there's also this question on proposition 22 which was passed by the voters years ago that said, `no, we're not going for gay marriage.' |
Now this Cal--this legislative move, you know, can't trump that under California Constitution. I was speaking with Vik Amar, constitutional expert at Hastings, this morning about this very subject, and he said that... | now this cal--this legislative move, you know can't trump that under california constitution i was speaking with vik amar constitutional expert, at hastings this morning about this very subject and he said | Now this Cal--this legislative move you know can't, trump that under California Constitution I was speaking with Vik Amar constitutional expert. at. Hastings this morning about this very, subject and he said | now this cal--this legislative move, you know, can't trump that under california constitution. i was speaking with vik amar, constitutional expert at hastings, this morning about this very subject, and he said that... |
Hastings College of Law. | hastings college of; | Hastings College of | hastings college of law. |
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That's the Berkeley law school. | that's the berkeley law | That's the Berkeley law | that's the berkeley law school. |
Yeah, and he said that the Legislature can't, by itself, outdo the California Constitution. Now at the same time, we had the mayor of San Francisco challenge the constitutionality of Prop. 22 by his marriages a while ago. And that test case is working its way through the courts. Now on top of that--just as long as you can try to really keep this on who's on first--there is a move afoot to put a constitution amendment on the ballot that would ban gay marriages once and for all in the state as a constitutional amendment. | yeah and he said that the legislature can't by itself outdo the california. constitution now at the, same time we had the mayor of san francisco challenge the, constitutionality of prop 22 by his marriages a while ago and that test case is working its way; through the courts now on top of that--just, as; long as you can try to. really keep. this on who's. on first--there is, a move afoot to put a constitution amendment on the ballot that would ban gay marriages once and for all in. the state as a constitutional | Yeah and he said that the Legislature, can't by itself outdo the California Constitution Now at the same time we had the, mayor. of San Francisco challenge the constitutionality of Prop 22 by his marriages a while. ago And that test, case, is working. its way through the courts. Now on top of, that--just as; long as you can try to. really keep this on who's, on first--there is a move, afoot to put a; constitution amendment on the ballot that, would ban gay marriages once and for all in the state as. a constitutional | yeah, and he said that the legislature can't, by itself, outdo the california constitution. now at the same time, we had the mayor of san francisco challenge the constitutionality of prop. 22 by his marriages a while ago. and that test case is working its way through the courts. now on top of that--just as long as you can try to really keep this on who's on first--there is a move afoot to put a constitution amendment on the ballot that would ban gay marriages once and for all in the state as a constitutional amendment. |
So there are all these different paths in motion right now, and the governor is sitting there in the midst of it, saying, with his thumb up in the air, going which way to go. | so there are all these different paths in. motion, right now and the governor is sitting, there in, the midst of it saying with his thumb up in the air. going which way to | So there are all these different. paths in motion right now and the governor is sitting. there in the midst of it saying with his thumb up in the air going which way. to | so there are all these different paths in motion right now, and the governor is sitting there in the midst of it, saying, with his thumb up in the air, going which way to go. |
Supporters of same-sex marriage in the California Legislature argued--having recently lost this same issue not very long ago--argue that the trend is on their side, and that makes me think back to the election night of 2004, when any number of referenda that would have legalized same-sex marriage failed, and anything that was against it succeeded. Is public opinion in California really that different from what it was elsewhere in the country just a couple years ago? | supporters of, same-sex marriage in the. california legislature argued--having recently lost this same issue not very long ago--argue. that the trend is on their side and that makes me think back to the election night of 2004, when any number of referenda that would have legalized same-sex. marriage failed and anything that was against it succeeded is public. opinion in california really that different from what it was elsewhere in; the country just a couple years | Supporters of same-sex marriage in the California Legislature argued--having recently lost this same issue not very long ago--argue that the trend. is on their side and that makes me think back to, the election night of. 2004, when any; number. of referenda, that would have legalized same-sex marriage failed and anything that was. against it succeeded Is, public opinion in California really, that different, from what it was elsewhere in the country just a couple years | supporters of same-sex marriage in the california legislature argued--having recently lost this same issue not very long ago--argue that the trend is on their side, and that makes me think back to the election night of 2004, when any number of referenda that would have legalized same-sex marriage failed, and anything that was against it succeeded. is public opinion in california really that different from what it was elsewhere in the country just a couple years ago? |
Their failure isn't that surprising. Engineers all over the world have been after the Sikorsky Prize for three decades and they haven't even come close. Rising straight up into the air and staying there requires an incredible amount of power. Flapping your arms isn't going to work. To generate enough lift, you need enormous wings, or in the case of a helicopter, enormous rotors, to convert human power to flying power. And at the same time, Bowen-Davies says you want everything to weigh as little as possible. | their failure isn't that surprising engineers, all over the world. have been after, the sikorsky prize for three decades and they haven't, even come close rising straight up into the air and staying there requires an incredible amount; of power flapping your; arms isn't going to work. to generate enough lift you, need enormous wings or in the, case of a helicopter enormous rotors to convert human, power. to flying power and at the same time, bowen-davies. says you want, everything to. weigh. as little as | Their failure isn't that surprising Engineers all over the world have, been after, the Sikorsky Prize for three decades and they haven't even come close Rising straight up into the air and staying there requires an incredible amount, of power Flapping your arms isn't going to work To generate enough, lift you need enormous wings or in the case of, a helicopter enormous rotors to convert human power to. flying power And at the same time Bowen-Davies says you want everything to. weigh as, little. as | their failure isn't that surprising. engineers all over the world have been after the sikorsky prize for three decades and they haven't even come close. rising straight up into the air and staying there requires an incredible amount of power. flapping your arms isn't going to work. to generate enough lift, you need enormous wings, or in the case of a helicopter, enormous rotors, to convert human power to flying power. and at the same time, bowen-davies says you want everything to weigh as little as possible. |
That's something we're constantly balancing, trying to see how light can we make it but still be strong enough that we can safely take off and carry our pilot off the ground. | that's something we're constantly balancing trying. to see how light can we make it but still be strong enough that we can safely take off and. carry our pilot. off the | That's something we're constantly balancing trying to see how light can we make it but still be strong enough that, we can safely. take off and carry our pilot off the | that's something we're constantly balancing, trying to see how light can we make it but still be strong enough that we can safely take off and carry our pilot off the ground. |
They built Gamera of super-light materials, mostly toothpick-thin carbon fiber tubes and Styrofoam. And the pilots who fly this thing, they have to be super-light too. | they built gamera of super-light, materials mostly toothpick-thin carbon fiber tubes and, styrofoam and the pilots who fly this thing they, have to be super-light. | They built Gamera of super-light materials mostly toothpick-thin carbon fiber tubes and Styrofoam And the pilots. who fly. this thing they, have to be super-light | they built gamera of super-light materials, mostly toothpick-thin carbon fiber tubes and styrofoam. and the pilots who fly this thing, they have to be super-light too. |
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