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If you'd like to join the conversation, our number is 800-989-8255, and our e-mail address is [email protected]. You're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | if you'd like to join the conversation our number is 800-989-8255, and our e-mail, address is [email protected] you're listening to talk of the nation from npr | If you'd like to join the conversation our number is 800-989-8255, and our e-mail address is [email protected] You're listening. to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR | if you'd like to join the conversation, our number is 800-989-8255, and our e-mail address is [email protected]. you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. |
And it's interesting, Reggie Nadelson, Tikay was saying one of the big things was that, well, he was an American doing all this stuff. And that was, I think, you say, a big source of his appeal in the Soviet Union, as well. | and it's, interesting reggie nadelson, tikay was saying one. of the big things was that well he was an american doing all this stuff and that was i think you say a big source of his. appeal in the, soviet union as; | And it's interesting Reggie Nadelson Tikay was saying one of the big things was that well he was an American doing, all this stuff And that was I think you say. a, big source of his appeal in the Soviet Union as. | and it's interesting, reggie nadelson, tikay was saying one of the big things was that, well, he was an american doing all this stuff. and that was, i think, you say, a big source of his appeal in the soviet union, as well. |
I think, in a way, it was always his huge appeal. I mean, the guy didn't have a lot of musical talent and his politics were not original. I mean, they were - you know, at first they were sort of standard ‘60s politics. He touched - he had a bit of everything. He was a Maoist for a while. He was a Stalinist for a while. He was a socialist for a while. | i think. in. a way it was always his huge appeal i mean the guy didn't have a, lot, of musical talent and his politics, were not original i mean they, were. - you know at. first they were sort of, standard ‘60s politics he touched - he had a bit of everything he. was a maoist for a, while he was a, stalinist for a while he was a socialist for a | I think in a way it was always his huge appeal I mean the guy didn't have a lot of musical talent, and his, politics were not original I mean they were - you know at first they were sort of standard ‘60s politics He touched - he had a bit of everything He was a Maoist for. a while He was a Stalinist, for a while, He was a socialist for a | i think, in a way, it was always his huge appeal. i mean, the guy didn't have a lot of musical talent and his politics were not original. i mean, they were - you know, at first they were sort of standard ‘60s politics. he touched - he had a bit of everything. he was a maoist for a while. he was a stalinist for a while. he was a socialist for a while. |
But the real talent he had, especially when he got to the Soviet Union and to the East, was being an American. And one of the things that I found absolutely stunning, and I was helped in this a lot by a journalist, who has probably been on NPR a lot, called Vladimir Posner… | but the. real talent he had especially. when he got to the, soviet union and to the east was being, an american and one. of the things that i found absolutely stunning and i was helped in this a lot by a journalist who has probably been, on npr a lot called; vladimir | But the real, talent he. had especially when he got to. the Soviet Union and to the East was being an American And one of the things that I found absolutely stunning and I; was helped in this a lot by a journalist who has probably been on NPR a; lot, called Vladimir | but the real talent he had, especially when he got to the soviet union and to the east, was being an american. and one of the things that i found absolutely stunning, and i was helped in this a lot by a journalist, who has probably been on npr a lot, called vladimir posner… |
Oh, yes! | oh | Oh | oh, yes! |
…and I went to see Vladimir on my first Dean Reed trip to Moscow. And, you know, one of the things he said, in terms of context, was that from around 1963, when JFK was assassinated and there was more news from the United States into the Soviet Union, people turned 180 degrees. And I remember Vlad saying this specifically. And everything American became wonderful; everything American was seditious and delicious and desired. | …and i went to see vladimir on my first dean reed trip to. moscow and you know one of the; things he said. in terms of context was that from around 1963, when, jfk was assassinated, and there was more news from the united states into the soviet union people turned 180 degrees and i remember vlad saying, this, specifically and everything american became wonderful everything american was seditious and delicious and | …and I went to see Vladimir on my first Dean Reed trip to Moscow And, you know one of the things he said in terms of context, was that from around 1963, when JFK was; assassinated and there was more news from the United States into the Soviet Union people turned 180 degrees And I remember Vlad saying this specifically And, everything American became. wonderful everything American was seditious and delicious and. | …and i went to see vladimir on my first dean reed trip to moscow. and, you know, one of the things he said, in terms of context, was that from around 1963, when jfk was assassinated and there was more news from the united states into the soviet union, people turned 180 degrees. and i remember vlad saying this specifically. and everything american became wonderful; everything american was seditious and delicious and desired. |
And, you know, another person I got to know, Art Troitsky(ph), who was a kind of rocker, who said everything West was good. And here was this gorgeous American in tight jeans singing rock n' roll. But the double-edged sword was he was spouting the party line. And so the irony became that they were only allowed him because he was official, and they only wanted him because he was seditious. | and you know another person i; got to know art troitsky(ph), who was a kind of rocker who said everything west was good and here. was this gorgeous american in tight jeans singing rock n' roll but the double-edged sword was he was spouting the party line and so the irony became that. they were only allowed him because he was official. and, they only wanted him. because he was | And you know another person I got, to know Art Troitsky(ph), who was. a kind of rocker who, said everything West was good And here was this gorgeous American in tight jeans singing rock n' roll But the double-edged sword was he was spouting the. party line And so. the irony became that they were only allowed him because he was official and they only wanted him because he was | and, you know, another person i got to know, art troitsky(ph), who was a kind of rocker, who said everything west was good. and here was this gorgeous american in tight jeans singing rock n' roll. but the double-edged sword was he was spouting the party line. and so the irony became that they were only allowed him because he was official, and they only wanted him because he was seditious. |
As you put it, he ended up playing before every ghoul in Eastern Europe. | as you put it, he ended up playing before every ghoul in eastern | As you put it he ended up playing before every ghoul in Eastern | as you put it, he ended up playing before every ghoul in eastern europe. |
Yes, he did. He made the rounds, but I think nothing more delightful to me then when he - he also played the kind of worldwide socialist camp. And there is a piece of drop-dead wonderful film archive of Dean with the PLO sort of with a checked headscarf, with a rifle. And then you cut and somebody is tapping their fingers on the table while Dean sings Ghost Riders in the Sky. The camera pulls back, and it's Yasser Arafat. Clearly Ghost Riders in the Sky was one of his favorites. | yes he did he made the. rounds but i. think nothing, more delightful to me then when he - he also. played the kind of worldwide socialist camp and there, is a piece of, drop-dead wonderful film archive of dean with, the plo sort of with a checked headscarf with a; rifle and then you cut, and somebody is tapping their, fingers on the table while dean; sings ghost riders in the sky the camera pulls back and it's yasser arafat clearly ghost riders in, the sky was one; of his. | Yes he did. He made the rounds. but, I; think nothing more delightful to me, then when he - he also played the kind of worldwide socialist; camp, And there is a piece of drop-dead wonderful film. archive of Dean with the PLO, sort of with a, checked headscarf with, a rifle And then you cut and somebody is tapping their fingers on the table while Dean sings Ghost Riders in the Sky The camera pulls back and it's, Yasser Arafat Clearly Ghost Riders, in the Sky was one; of his | yes, he did. he made the rounds, but i think nothing more delightful to me then when he - he also played the kind of worldwide socialist camp. and there is a piece of drop-dead wonderful film archive of dean with the plo sort of with a checked headscarf, with a rifle. and then you cut and somebody is tapping their fingers on the table while dean sings ghost riders in the sky. the camera pulls back, and it's yasser arafat. clearly ghost riders in the sky was one of his favorites. |
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Hi. I was just calling because I'm probably one of a few Western people who knew Dean Reed. My dad was a military officer stationed in, what was then West Germany, during the late ‘70s and early ‘80s. And our downstairs neighbor was a German lady whose relatives lived in Eastern part of the country. And it's kind of a reverse thing. Her kids, when they went to go visit with her, used to sneak Dean Reed tapes back across. | hi i. was just calling because i'm, probably one of a, few western. people who knew dean reed my dad was a military officer stationed. in what was then. west, germany during the late ‘70s and early ‘80s and our downstairs neighbor was a german lady whose relatives lived in eastern part. of the country and it's kind of a reverse thing, her kids when they. went. to go visit with her used, to sneak dean reed tapes back | Hi I was, just calling because I'm. probably one of a few Western people who knew Dean Reed My dad was. a military officer. stationed in what was then, West Germany, during, the late ‘70s and early ‘80s And our downstairs neighbor was a German lady whose relatives lived in Eastern, part of the country And it's. kind of. a reverse thing Her kids when they went to go visit with her used to sneak Dean Reed tapes back | hi. i was just calling because i'm probably one of a few western people who knew dean reed. my dad was a military officer stationed in, what was then west germany, during the late ‘70s and early ‘80s. and our downstairs neighbor was a german lady whose relatives lived in eastern part of the country. and it's kind of a reverse thing. her kids, when they went to go visit with her, used to sneak dean reed tapes back across. |
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I was, you know, a (unintelligible), I guess they would call it now, listening to what was then some pretty outrageous stuff. And I got into big trouble from my dad, who was of course very patriotic, for listening to this, you know, commie music. | i was you know a (unintelligible), i guess they would call it now listening to what was then some, pretty outrageous stuff and i. got into big trouble from my dad who was of, course. very patriotic for listening to this you, know commie | I was you know a (unintelligible), I guess they would call it now listening to what was then some pretty outrageous stuff And. I got into big trouble. from my dad who was, of course very patriotic. for listening to this you know commie | i was, you know, a (unintelligible), i guess they would call it now, listening to what was then some pretty outrageous stuff. and i got into big trouble from my dad, who was of course very patriotic, for listening to this, you know, commie music. |
Well, let's hear if you remember this one. This is Dean Reed's, Girl Happy. | well, let's hear, if you remember this one this is; dean reed's girl | Well let's hear if you, remember this one, This is Dean Reed's Girl | well, let's hear if you remember this one. this is dean reed's, girl happy. |
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(Singing) Girl happy. Yes, I am girl happy. Well, I am girl happy can't you see? Every girl I see looks good to me. What a crazy, way-out way to be… | (singing) girl happy yes i am girl happy well, i am girl happy can't. you see? every, girl i see looks good to me what a crazy way-out way, to | (Singing) Girl, happy Yes I am girl happy Well I am girl happy, can't you see? Every girl I see looks good to me What a crazy way-out way. to | (singing) girl happy. yes, i am girl happy. well, i am girl happy can't you see? every girl i see looks good to me. what a crazy, way-out way to be… |
And I think that's complete with East German backup singers there, Karen. | and i think that's complete with east, german backup singers there | And I think that's complete with East, German backup singers there | and i think that's complete with east german backup singers there, karen. |
Yes, and it's really wonderful. I actually still have one of the - I guess I shouldn't probably say this on the radio - but I have, you know, still have a bootleg tape… | yes and it's really wonderful i actually still have one of the - i guess i shouldn't probably say this on the radio - but i have you know still. have a bootleg | Yes and it's really wonderful I actually. still have one of the - I guess I shouldn't probably say, this on. the radio - but I. have you know, still have a bootleg | yes, and it's really wonderful. i actually still have one of the - i guess i shouldn't probably say this on the radio - but i have, you know, still have a bootleg tape… |
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…of Dean Reed, that, you know, should be embarrassing, but it's a guilty pleasure. | …of dean reed that you know; should be embarrassing but it's a guilty | …of Dean Reed that, you know should be embarrassing but it's, a guilty, | …of dean reed, that, you know, should be embarrassing, but it's a guilty pleasure. |
Thanks very much for the call Karen. We appreciate it. | thanks very much for the, call karen we appreciate | Thanks very much for the call Karen, We appreciate, | thanks very much for the call karen. we appreciate it. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
By the way, at our website, npr.org, you can read about what drew Dean Reed to East Berlin. And the first chapter from Comrade Rock Star is on the TALK OF THE NATION page at npr.org. There's also some video clips of Reed singing on East German TV, and I have to say they're pretty hilarious. | by the way. at our website npr.org you can read about. what drew dean reed to east, berlin and the first chapter from comrade rock star is, on the talk of the nation page at npr.org there's also, some video, clips of reed singing. on east german tv and i have to say, they're pretty | By the way at our website npr.org you can read about what drew Dean Reed to East, Berlin And, the first chapter from Comrade Rock Star is on the. TALK OF THE NATION page at npr.org There's also some video clips of Reed singing on East German, TV and, I have. to say they're pretty | by the way, at our website, npr.org, you can read about what drew dean reed to east berlin. and the first chapter from comrade rock star is on the talk of the nation page at npr.org. there's also some video clips of reed singing on east german tv, and i have to say they're pretty hilarious. |
But, Reggie Nadelson, eventually you come to the conclusion that there was no grand conspiracy to kill Dean Reed; that he killed himself. | but reggie nadelson eventually you come to the conclusion that there was no grand conspiracy to, kill dean reed that he killed | But Reggie Nadelson eventually you. come to the, conclusion that there was no grand conspiracy to kill Dean Reed that he killed | but, reggie nadelson, eventually you come to the conclusion that there was no grand conspiracy to kill dean reed; that he killed himself. |
Well, I think, in a funny way, it was the most tragic and most, well, poignant, not tragic, ending. I mean, what happened essentially was that in 1984/1985, he came home. I mean, he remained an American citizen all his life. He filed with the IRS. He was legit. And he came home for a long visit with a friend in Loveland, Colorado, and he totally fell in love with America. | well i think in a funny way. it was the most tragic and. most well poignant not tragic ending i mean what happened essentially was that in 1984/1985, he came home i mean he remained an american citizen all his life he filed with the irs he was legit and he came home for a long visit with, a friend in loveland colorado and he totally fell in love with | Well I think in a funny way it was the most, tragic and most, well poignant not tragic ending I mean what happened essentially was that in 1984/1985, he came home I mean he remained an American citizen all his life He filed with the IRS He was legit And he came home for a long visit with a. friend in Loveland Colorado. and he totally fell in love with | well, i think, in a funny way, it was the most tragic and most, well, poignant, not tragic, ending. i mean, what happened essentially was that in 1984/1985, he came home. i mean, he remained an american citizen all his life. he filed with the irs. he was legit. and he came home for a long visit with a friend in loveland, colorado, and he totally fell in love with america. |
He fell in love with the weather, with the Colorado mountains, with everything. And he wanted to come home. And - but, of course, by now he was a 46, 47 year old. I mean, pretty much a has-been, even in the Soviet Union. Because, remember, by now, in '85 Gorbachev comes in, glasnost, perestroika, they begin to have their own rock stars. They begin to have people like Boris Grebenschikov, who were the real goods. And nobody really wants this kind of old - now old, rocker. | he fell in love with the weather with the colorado mountains with everything and he wanted to. come home and - but of course. by now he was a 46, 47 year old i mean pretty; much a has-been even in the soviet union because. remember by now in '85 gorbachev comes in, glasnost perestroika they begin to have their own rock stars they, begin, to. have people like boris grebenschikov who, were the real goods and nobody really wants this kind of old - now old | He fell in, love with; the. weather with the Colorado mountains with everything And he wanted to come home And - but of course. by now, he was a 46, 47 year old I mean, pretty much a has-been even in the Soviet Union Because remember by now in '85 Gorbachev comes in glasnost perestroika they begin to. have their own rock stars They begin to have people like Boris Grebenschikov who, were the real, goods And, nobody really wants this kind of old - now old | he fell in love with the weather, with the colorado mountains, with everything. and he wanted to come home. and - but, of course, by now he was a 46, 47 year old. i mean, pretty much a has-been, even in the soviet union. because, remember, by now, in '85 gorbachev comes in, glasnost, perestroika, they begin to have their own rock stars. they begin to have people like boris grebenschikov, who were the real goods. and nobody really wants this kind of old - now old, rocker. |
And he - I think he felt trapped. And he was about to make a new movie, and I don't know. I always think it was a sort of half unwilled suicide. He took a sleeping pill; he drove off to meet someone at night. Nobody quite knows what happened, except he disappeared and three days - three or so days later they found his body in the lake. And, of course, because the wall was still up… | and he - i think he felt, trapped and he was about to make a new movie and i don't know i always think it, was a, sort of half, unwilled, suicide, he took, a sleeping, pill he drove off to meet someone at night nobody quite knows what happened except he disappeared and three days - three or. so days later they found, his body in the lake and of course because the wall was, still, | And he, - I think he felt trapped And he was about to make a new movie and. I. don't know I always think it was a sort of half unwilled suicide He took a sleeping pill, he drove off to meet someone at night Nobody quite knows what happened except he disappeared and three days. - three or so days later. they found his body in the lake And of course because the wall was still | and he - i think he felt trapped. and he was about to make a new movie, and i don't know. i always think it was a sort of half unwilled suicide. he took a sleeping pill; he drove off to meet someone at night. nobody quite knows what happened, except he disappeared and three days - three or so days later they found his body in the lake. and, of course, because the wall was still up… |
We have to leave it there, I'm afraid. Reggie Nadelson, thank you so much. | we have to leave it there i'm afraid reggie. nadelson thank you so | We have. to leave it there I'm afraid Reggie Nadelson thank you so | we have to leave it there, i'm afraid. reggie nadelson, thank you so much. |
A pleasure. | a | A | a pleasure. |
Her book is Comrade Rockstar. And you're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | her book is comrade rockstar and you're listening to talk of the nation from npr | Her book is Comrade Rockstar And you're. listening to TALK OF THE NATION. from NPR. | her book is comrade rockstar. and you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. |
This is TALK OF THE NATION SCIENCE FRIDAY. I'm Ira Flatow. | this is talk of the, nation science friday i'm ira | This is TALK OF; THE NATION SCIENCE FRIDAY I'm Ira | this is talk of the nation science friday. i'm ira flatow. |
Alien life? You know, we've been looking for it, for signs of it for centuries. You had Percival Lowell and his canals on Mars, and now you have SETI and its radio ears listening for signals from any civilization on planets orbiting distant stars. But, with so many billions of stars in the galaxy, how are we supposed to know where to look? How do you know where to start? | alien life? you know we've been looking for it. for signs of. it for centuries you had percival lowell and his canals on mars and now you have, seti and its radio. ears listening; for signals, from any civilization on planets orbiting distant stars but with so many billions of stars in the galaxy how are we supposed to know where to look? how do you know where to | Alien life? You know we've been looking for. it for signs of it for centuries You had Percival Lowell and his canals on Mars and now you have SETI and its radio ears listening for signals; from any civilization on planets orbiting distant stars But with so many billions of stars in the galaxy how are we supposed to know, where to look? How do you know where to | alien life? you know, we've been looking for it, for signs of it for centuries. you had percival lowell and his canals on mars, and now you have seti and its radio ears listening for signals from any civilization on planets orbiting distant stars. but, with so many billions of stars in the galaxy, how are we supposed to know where to look? how do you know where to start? |
Well, one astronomer has sifted through a catalog of thousands of stars and come up with a short list of top ten, the top ten stars that have the conditions needed to support life, and are close enough for us to take a look or a listen. And what's so special about these stars that they made the cut and what exactly are scientists looking for when they turn their telescopes on them? Well, my next guest has some of the answers to these and other questions. | well one astronomer, has sifted through, a catalog of; thousands of stars and come up with a short list of top ten the top ten stars that have the conditions needed to support life and are close enough for us to, take a, look, or a listen and what's so special about these stars that they made the cut and what exactly. are scientists looking, for when they turn their telescopes on them? well my next guest has some of the answers to, these and other | Well one astronomer has sifted through a catalog of thousands of stars and come up with a short, list of top ten. the top ten stars that have, the conditions needed, to support life and are close enough for us to take a look or a listen And, what's so special about these stars that they made the cut and what exactly are, scientists looking for. when they turn their telescopes on them? Well my next guest, has some of the answers to these and other | well, one astronomer has sifted through a catalog of thousands of stars and come up with a short list of top ten, the top ten stars that have the conditions needed to support life, and are close enough for us to take a look or a listen. and what's so special about these stars that they made the cut and what exactly are scientists looking for when they turn their telescopes on them? well, my next guest has some of the answers to these and other questions. |
Maggie Turnbull is a post-doctoral research associate with the Department of Terrestrial Magnetism at the Carnegie Institute of Washington and you can talk to us at 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-TALK. Welcome to Science Friday, Dr. Turnbull. | maggie turnbull is a post-doctoral research associate with the. department of terrestrial magnetism at the carnegie institute of washington and you can talk to us at 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-talk, welcome, to science friday dr | Maggie Turnbull is a post-doctoral research associate with the Department of Terrestrial Magnetism at the Carnegie Institute of, Washington and you can. talk to. us, at 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-TALK Welcome to Science Friday Dr | maggie turnbull is a post-doctoral research associate with the department of terrestrial magnetism at the carnegie institute of washington and you can talk to us at 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-talk. welcome to science friday, dr. turnbull. |
Hello, thank you. | hello thank | Hello thank | hello, thank you. |
Why do you even have this list? | why do you even have this, | Why do you even have this | why do you even have this list? |
Well, this list, motivated really by the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence, which is programmed to listen for technological signals from any other civilizations in the neighborhood of the sun. Now, the SETI Institute is working now on building a telescope array called the Allen Telescope Array, after Paul Allen, and what they need most urgently is a list, a target list of good SETI stars. | well. this list motivated really by the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence which is programmed to listen for technological signals, from any other civilizations, in the neighborhood of the sun now the seti institute is working now on building a, telescope array called the allen telescope array, after paul allen and what they need most urgently. is a list a target list of good seti. | Well this list motivated really by the search, for extra-terrestrial intelligence which is, programmed to listen for technological signals from any other, civilizations in the neighborhood of the sun Now the SETI Institute is working now on building a telescope array called. the Allen Telescope Array after, Paul Allen and what they need most urgently is a list a target list of good SETI | well, this list, motivated really by the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence, which is programmed to listen for technological signals from any other civilizations in the neighborhood of the sun. now, the seti institute is working now on building a telescope array called the allen telescope array, after paul allen, and what they need most urgently is a list, a target list of good seti stars. |
Ah-hah. So, how with all these thousands and thousands, I mean, billions of stars, potentially, how do you know which ones to listen in on? | ah-hah, so how with all these thousands and thousands i mean billions of stars potentially how do you know which ones, to listen in | Ah-hah So how with, all these. thousands and thousands I mean billions of stars, potentially how, do you know which ones to listen in | ah-hah. so, how with all these thousands and thousands, i mean, billions of stars, potentially, how do you know which ones to listen in on? |
Right, well, the first thing is that close stars are better, so that we can have a chance of actually detecting any signals. But, the primary thing that I was focusing on is finding stars that behave in a way that is not hostile to any life forms that may be on planets orbiting those stars. | right well the first thing is that close stars are better, so that we can have, a chance, of actually detecting any signals but the primary thing that i was focusing on is finding stars that behave in a way that. is not hostile to any, life forms that may be on, planets, orbiting those | Right well the first thing is that close. stars are better so, that we can have a chance of actually detecting any signals But the primary thing that I was focusing on is finding stars that behave in a way that is not, hostile to any; life forms that may be on planets orbiting those | right, well, the first thing is that close stars are better, so that we can have a chance of actually detecting any signals. but, the primary thing that i was focusing on is finding stars that behave in a way that is not hostile to any life forms that may be on planets orbiting those stars. |
Ah-hah. So is there a criteria, a list of things that a star has to pass or it sort of gets eliminated? | ah-hah so is there a criteria. a list of things that a star has to pass or it sort of gets | Ah-hah So is there a criteria a list of things that a star, has to pass or it sort of gets. | ah-hah. so is there a criteria, a list of things that a star has to pass or it sort of gets eliminated? |
I'm anguished and disappointed. I thought there would be a greater sentence because seven to eight years is too little for this crime, she says. In the United States and other countries child kidnapping is almost akin to murder, she said, adding, there's nothing like that here. | i'm anguished and disappointed i thought. there would be a greater sentence because seven to eight years is too little for this crime she says in the united states and other countries child kidnapping is almost akin to murder she said, adding there's nothing like that | I'm anguished and disappointed I thought there would be a greater sentence because seven to eight years is too; little for this crime she says In the United, States and other countries child kidnapping is almost akin to murder she said adding there's nothing like that | i'm anguished and disappointed. i thought there would be a greater sentence because seven to eight years is too little for this crime, she says. in the united states and other countries child kidnapping is almost akin to murder, she said, adding, there's nothing like that here. |
Maria was just three months old when the defendant couple adopted her with falsified documents, including a birth certificate forged by a military doctor. It was an unhappy home filled with fighting and rancor. Maria told the court, my mother said that I was ungrateful for what they had done for me, and that if not for them I would have been tossed in the gutter. | maria was just three months old when the defendant couple adopted, her. with falsified, documents including a. birth certificate. forged by a military doctor it was an unhappy home, filled with fighting and rancor. maria told the court my, mother said that i was ungrateful for what; they, had done for me and that if not for them i would have been tossed in the | Maria was just three months old when the defendant couple adopted her. with falsified documents including a birth certificate forged by a military doctor It was, an unhappy home filled with fighting and rancor Maria told the court my mother said that. I was ungrateful for what they had done for me and that if not for them I, would have been. tossed in the | maria was just three months old when the defendant couple adopted her with falsified documents, including a birth certificate forged by a military doctor. it was an unhappy home filled with fighting and rancor. maria told the court, my mother said that i was ungrateful for what they had done for me, and that if not for them i would have been tossed in the gutter. |
In the 1990s, Maria ended her relationship with the couple who had given her conflicting stories about her birth mother - a maid who died in a car crash in one version; a stewardess in another. In 2001, DNA testing proved her true identity: the daughter of two political prisoners presumed dead. | in the 1990s maria ended. her relationship with the couple who had given, her conflicting stories. about. her birth mother - a maid who died in a car crash in one version a stewardess in another in 2001, dna testing proved her true identity: the daughter of two political prisoners presumed | In the 1990s Maria ended her relationship with the couple who had given her conflicting stories about her birth mother - a maid who died, in a car crash in one version a stewardess in another In 2001, DNA, testing proved her true, identity: the daughter of two political prisoners presumed | in the 1990s, maria ended her relationship with the couple who had given her conflicting stories about her birth mother - a maid who died in a car crash in one version; a stewardess in another. in 2001, dna testing proved her true identity: the daughter of two political prisoners presumed dead. |
Her parents had been trade unionists and members of the Marxist Leninist Party. In her only public statement Monday she declared, our mothers and fathers did not abandon us. | her parents had been trade unionists and members of the marxist leninist party in her only public statement monday she declared our mothers and fathers did not. abandon | Her, parents had been trade unionists and members of the Marxist Leninist Party In her only public statement. Monday she declared our mothers and fathers did not abandon | her parents had been trade unionists and members of the marxist leninist party. in her only public statement monday she declared, our mothers and fathers did not abandon us. |
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Many of them were murdered or disappeared for political reasons. They endured the most terrible conditions in their captivity. We lived through them, she said. Only by force was the military able to separate us, Maria said. | many of them were; murdered or disappeared for political reasons they endured the most terrible conditions in their captivity we, lived through them she said only by force was the military able to separate us maria, | Many of them were. murdered or disappeared for political reasons They, endured the. most terrible conditions in their. captivity We lived through them she said, Only, by force was the military able to separate us Maria. | many of them were murdered or disappeared for political reasons. they endured the most terrible conditions in their captivity. we lived through them, she said. only by force was the military able to separate us, maria said. |
Human rights groups estimate 500 newborns were seized in a network of torture and detention centers run by the military dictatorship. | human. rights groups estimate 500 newborns were seized in a network of torture and detention centers run by the military | Human rights groups. estimate 500 newborns were seized in a network of torture, and, detention, centers run by the military | human rights groups estimate 500 newborns were seized in a network of torture and detention centers run by the military dictatorship. |
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Some 5,000 political prisoners were detained here in the Navy's engineering school, a leafy complex on the northern edge of Buenos Aires. It's now a museum. | some 5,000 political prisoners were detained here in, the, navy's engineering school; a leafy complex on the northern, edge of buenos aires. it's. now a | Some 5,000 political prisoners were detained, here in the Navy's engineering school a leafy complex; on the northern edge of Buenos Aires It's now a | some 5,000 political prisoners were detained here in the navy's engineering school, a leafy complex on the northern edge of buenos aires. it's now a museum. |
Sabrina Olsalski(ph) took our tour to the dank basement of the officer's headquarters. | sabrina olsalski(ph) took our tour to the dank basement of the officer's | Sabrina Olsalski(ph) took our. tour; to the dank basement of the officer's | sabrina olsalski(ph) took our tour to the dank basement of the officer's headquarters. |
This place, the basement, was used as a torture center where the torture chambers used to be. And it was a place of slavery work. | this place the basement was used as a. torture center where the, torture. chambers used to be and it, was a place of slavery | This place, the basement was used as a. torture center. where the torture chambers used to, be And. it was a place, of slavery | this place, the basement, was used as a torture center where the torture chambers used to be. and it was a place of slavery work. |
Who lived and who died was totally arbitrary, she says. We make our way to the third floor, the site of the maternity ward. | who lived and who died was totally arbitrary she says we make our way to the third floor the site of the maternity | Who. lived, and, who died was totally arbitrary she says We make our way to the third floor the site of the maternity | who lived and who died was totally arbitrary, she says. we make our way to the third floor, the site of the maternity ward. |
So, this is the maternity ward? | so this is the maternity | So this is the maternity | so, this is the maternity ward? |
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The clandestine maternity ward they ran. | the clandestine maternity ward they | The clandestine maternity, ward they | the clandestine maternity ward they ran. |
This is the clandestine maternity, exactly. We estimate that about 35 children were born here, most of them still living under a false identity. | this is the clandestine. maternity, exactly we estimate that about 35 children were born here most of them still living under a false | This is. the, clandestine maternity, exactly We estimate that about 35 children were born here most of them. still living under a false | this is the clandestine maternity, exactly. we estimate that about 35 children were born here, most of them still living under a false identity. |
Eighty-eight children born to dissidents in Argentina have recovered their identities and been reunited with their families. Five of them were born here at the naval school. | eighty-eight. children born to dissidents in argentina have; recovered their identities and been reunited with their families five of them were born here at the naval | Eighty-eight children born to dissidents in Argentina have recovered their identities and been reunited with their families Five of them were born here. at. the naval | eighty-eight children born to dissidents in argentina have recovered their identities and been reunited with their families. five of them were born here at the naval school. |
Among the juntas that held sway over South America in the 1970s and 80s, Argentina's was considered among the most brutal - kidnapping and killing an estimated 30,000 people. The counsel for Maria Barragan has argued that the offenses in this case amount to crimes against humanity. | among the juntas that held sway over south america in the 1970s and 80s argentina's was considered among the most, brutal - kidnapping and. killing an estimated 30,000 people the counsel for maria barragan has argued that the offenses in this. case amount to crimes against. | Among the juntas that held sway over South America in the 1970s and 80s Argentina's was considered among the most brutal - kidnapping and killing an estimated 30,000 people The counsel. for Maria Barragan has argued that. the offenses in this case amount to crimes against | among the juntas that held sway over south america in the 1970s and 80s, argentina's was considered among the most brutal - kidnapping and killing an estimated 30,000 people. the counsel for maria barragan has argued that the offenses in this case amount to crimes against humanity. |
The court last night was silent on that but Barragan's attorney, Tomas Quintana, said the verdict is still a clear condemnation of those who trafficked in stolen children. | the, court last night was silent, on. that but. barragan's attorney. tomas. quintana said the verdict is still a clear condemnation of those, who, trafficked in stolen | The court last night was silent on that but. Barragan's attorney Tomas Quintana said the verdict is still a clear condemnation. of those who, trafficked in stolen | the court last night was silent on that but barragan's attorney, tomas quintana, said the verdict is still a clear condemnation of those who trafficked in stolen children. |
The fact that the three accused have been convicted for these crimes is very important. It's a message. | the fact that the three accused. have been convicted for these crimes is, very important it's a | The fact that the three accused have been. convicted for these crimes is very, important; It's. a | the fact that the three accused have been convicted for these crimes is very important. it's a message. |
Maria Barragan says she hopes her case will convince more young men and women with doubts about their identity to come forward, and, she says, persuade society to reject the term adoptive parents. They are not parents, she said, they are appropriators. | maria, barragan says she, hopes her, case will convince more young men and women with, doubts about their identity. to, come forward and she says persuade society to reject the term adoptive parents they are not. parents she said, they are | Maria Barragan says she hopes her. case will convince more young men and women with doubts about their identity to come forward, and she says persuade society to reject the term adoptive, parents They are not parents she said they are | maria barragan says she hopes her case will convince more young men and women with doubts about their identity to come forward, and, she says, persuade society to reject the term adoptive parents. they are not parents, she said, they are appropriators. |
Julie McCarthy, NPR News, Buenos Aires. | julie mccarthy npr news; buenos | Julie. McCarthy NPR News Buenos | julie mccarthy, npr news, buenos aires. |
Many people don't believe the media, but trust me, this story is true. Researchers have found that a hormone involved in childbirth also seem to help people trust one another. NPR's Jon Hamilton has more. | many people don't believe the media but trust me this, story is true researchers have found that a hormone involved in, childbirth also seem to help people trust one another npr's, jon. hamilton has. | Many people don't believe the media but trust me this story is true Researchers have found that a hormone involved in childbirth also seem to help people trust one another NPR's Jon Hamilton has | many people don't believe the media, but trust me, this story is true. researchers have found that a hormone involved in childbirth also seem to help people trust one another. npr's jon hamilton has more. |
When doctors want to speed up childbirth, they sometimes give women a hormone called oxytocin, or pitocin. But researchers also know your brain also makes this hormone when you're with someone you trust. Brain researcher Paul Zak wondered what would happen if he gave people an extra dose of oxytocin. The experiment involved money. He and some Swiss colleagues gave volunteers a small sum and told them to sit in a booth. | when, doctors want to speed up childbirth they sometimes give women a hormone. called oxytocin or pitocin but researchers also know your brain also makes this hormone. when you're with someone you trust brain researcher paul zak wondered what would happen if he gave people an extra dose of oxytocin the; experiment involved money he and some swiss colleagues gave volunteers; a small, sum and told them to sit in a, | When doctors want, to, speed up. childbirth they sometimes give women a hormone called oxytocin or pitocin But researchers; also, know your, brain also makes this hormone when you're with someone you, trust Brain researcher Paul Zak wondered what would happen if he gave, people an extra dose of oxytocin The experiment involved money He and some Swiss. colleagues, gave; volunteers a. small sum and told them to sit in a | when doctors want to speed up childbirth, they sometimes give women a hormone called oxytocin, or pitocin. but researchers also know your brain also makes this hormone when you're with someone you trust. brain researcher paul zak wondered what would happen if he gave people an extra dose of oxytocin. the experiment involved money. he and some swiss colleagues gave volunteers a small sum and told them to sit in a booth. |
And we walked over and gave them two puffs of this--of drug in each nostril, either drug or placebo, and we didn't know which they were getting, nor did they. | and we walked over and gave them, two puffs of this--of drug in each nostril either drug or placebo and we, didn't know which they were getting nor. did | And we walked over and gave them, two puffs of this--of drug in each. nostril either drug or placebo and we didn't know which they were getting nor did | and we walked over and gave them two puffs of this--of drug in each nostril, either drug or placebo, and we didn't know which they were getting, nor did they. |
Then the volunteers sat down at computers. They got a message saying that if they gave, say, $10 to an anonymous partner, the partner would get an extra $30. The suggestion was that by cooperating, they could both make money. But Zak, who's at Claremont Graduate University in California, says it was a tough decision. | then the volunteers, sat down. at computers they got a message saying that if they gave say $10 to an anonymous partner the partner would get an extra $30. the suggestion was that by cooperating they. could both make money but zak who's at claremont graduate university in california says it was a tough | Then, the volunteers sat down at computers. They got a; message saying that if they gave say, $10 to an anonymous partner the partner would get an, extra $30. The suggestion was that by cooperating they could both. make money But, Zak who's at Claremont Graduate University in, California says it was, a. tough | then the volunteers sat down at computers. they got a message saying that if they gave, say, $10 to an anonymous partner, the partner would get an extra $30. the suggestion was that by cooperating, they could both make money. but zak, who's at claremont graduate university in california, says it was a tough decision. |
You could only send a signal of trust to somebody by making a sacrifice, by actually taking money out of your account, and whether that person will reciprocate and be trustworthy is unknown. There's no way to find out who that person is. There's no way to talk to them. | you could only send a signal, of trust. to somebody by making a sacrifice by actually taking money. out of your account and. whether that person will reciprocate and be trustworthy is unknown there's no way to find out who that person is, there's no way, to talk to | You could only send a signal of trust to somebody by making a sacrifice by actually taking money out of your account and whether that person will reciprocate and be trustworthy. is unknown There's no way to. find out who that person is There's no, way to talk to | you could only send a signal of trust to somebody by making a sacrifice, by actually taking money out of your account, and whether that person will reciprocate and be trustworthy is unknown. there's no way to find out who that person is. there's no way to talk to them. |
It turned out that people who got oxytocin were more likely to trust someone else with their money. | it turned out that people who got oxytocin were more likely to trust someone else with their | It turned out that people who got oxytocin were more likely to trust someone else with their | it turned out that people who got oxytocin were more likely to trust someone else with their money. |
We've identified what could be called a physiologic signature for empathy. If we change underlying oxytocin levels, we indeed could change your level of trust. | we've identified what could be called. a physiologic signature for empathy if we change underlying oxytocin levels we, indeed could change your level of | We've identified what could, be called a physiologic signature. for empathy If we change underlying oxytocin levels we indeed, could, change your level of | we've identified what could be called a physiologic signature for empathy. if we change underlying oxytocin levels, we indeed could change your level of trust. |
Zak say's that's remarkable, especially in an experiment where people's only contact was through a machine. | zak say's that's remarkable especially in an experiment where people's only contact was through a | Zak say's that's remarkable especially in an experiment where people's only contact was through a | zak say's that's remarkable, especially in an experiment where people's only contact was through a machine. |
They don't see the other person. They don't know who they are, and still this hormone motivates them to be socially engaged with other people. | they don't see the other person they don't know who they are and still this hormone motivates them to be socially engaged with other | They don't see the other person They don't know who they are and still this hormone motivates them to be socially engaged. with, other | they don't see the other person. they don't know who they are, and still this hormone motivates them to be socially engaged with other people. |
Or maybe they were just more willing to take a risk, so Zak had them play the game again. This time their anonymous partner was a computer, not a person, and this time oxytocin didn't make a difference. Those studies appear in this week's issue of the journal Nature. | or. maybe they were just more willing to take a risk so zak had them, play the game again. this, time their anonymous partner was a computer not a, person and. this time oxytocin, didn't make a difference those studies appear in this week's issue of the journal | Or maybe, they were just, more willing. to take a risk. so Zak had them. play the. game again This time their, anonymous partner was a computer not, a person and this, time oxytocin didn't make a difference. Those studies, appear in this week's. issue of the journal | or maybe they were just more willing to take a risk, so zak had them play the game again. this time their anonymous partner was a computer, not a person, and this time oxytocin didn't make a difference. those studies appear in this week's issue of the journal nature. |
So should we expect a trust perfume? Well, probably not. | so should. we expect a trust perfume? well probably | So, should we expect a trust perfume? Well probably | so should we expect a trust perfume? well, probably not. |
It would be a mistake to say oxytocin equals trust. | it would be a mistake to say oxytocin equals | It would be a mistake to say oxytocin equals | it would be a mistake to say oxytocin equals trust. |
Antonio Damasio of the University of Iowa says trust is more than just a chemical reaction. | antonio damasio of the university of iowa says trust is more than just. a chemical, | Antonio Damasio, of the University of Iowa says trust is more than just a chemical | antonio damasio of the university of iowa says trust is more than just a chemical reaction. |
Well, there's a feeling that it's changing. And you can cite different polls that show people more inclined. Especially younger people appear to be more open-minded about it. But that was one of the biggest arguments that state Assemblyman Mark Leno from San Francisco, who was pushing this bill, made in the final hours. He went around. There was opposition from Latino--or hesitancy from some of the Latino members of the Democratic Caucus and African-American members who were getting--felt like they were getting pressured from ministers not to go for it. | well there's a feeling; that it's changing and you can cite different polls that show people. more inclined. especially younger people appear to be more open-minded about, it but that. was one of the biggest arguments that state assemblyman mark leno from san, francisco who was pushing this bill made in the final, hours he. went, around there was opposition. from latino--or hesitancy from some of the latino members of the democratic caucus and african-american members who were getting--felt like they were getting pressured from. ministers not to. go, for | Well there's a feeling that, it's changing And you can cite different polls that show people more inclined Especially younger people appear to be more open-minded about, it. But that was one of the biggest arguments that state Assemblyman Mark Leno from, San Francisco who was pushing this bill made in. the final hours He went around There was opposition from Latino--or hesitancy from some of the Latino members of the Democratic Caucus and African-American members who, were getting--felt like they were getting pressured from ministers not to go for | well, there's a feeling that it's changing. and you can cite different polls that show people more inclined. especially younger people appear to be more open-minded about it. but that was one of the biggest arguments that state assemblyman mark leno from san francisco, who was pushing this bill, made in the final hours. he went around. there was opposition from latino--or hesitancy from some of the latino members of the democratic caucus and african-american members who were getting--felt like they were getting pressured from ministers not to go for it. |
But Leno, with the help of others, was able to get in there and say, `Times are changing.' Whether or not that reflects statewide remains to be seen, but that was one of the pitches he was making, that, `OK, it is moving in that direction.' And indeed, some of the Legislature said, `Yes, for our children and our children's children, even though I don't necessarily agree with this, I don't want to be seen as someone standing in the way of what is perceived as a civil rights issue.' | but leno with the help of, others was able to get in there and say `times are changing' whether. or not that reflects statewide remains to be seen but, that was one of the pitches he was making that `ok it is moving. in that direction' and indeed some of, the, legislature said `yes for our children and our children's. children, even though i don't necessarily agree with this i don't want to be seen as someone standing in the way of what is perceived as a civil rights | But Leno with the help of others was able to get in there and say `Times are changing' Whether or not that reflects statewide remains to be seen but that was; one of, the pitches he was making that `OK it is moving in that. direction' And indeed some of the Legislature said `Yes, for our children and our children's. children even though I don't necessarily agree with this I don't want to be seen. as; someone standing in the way of what, is, perceived as a civil rights | but leno, with the help of others, was able to get in there and say, `times are changing.' whether or not that reflects statewide remains to be seen, but that was one of the pitches he was making, that, `ok, it is moving in that direction.' and indeed, some of the legislature said, `yes, for our children and our children's children, even though i don't necessarily agree with this, i don't want to be seen as someone standing in the way of what is perceived as a civil rights issue.' |
The time was, two years ago, I guess, when Arnold Schwarzenegger became the governor, when he could have done just about anything, he was so popular. How much political wiggle room does he have nowadays? | the time was two years ago i guess when arnold schwarzenegger became the, governor when he could have done just about anything he was so popular how much political wiggle room does he have | The time was two years ago I guess, when Arnold Schwarzenegger became the. governor when he could have done just, about anything. he was so popular How; much political wiggle room does he have | the time was, two years ago, i guess, when arnold schwarzenegger became the governor, when he could have done just about anything, he was so popular. how much political wiggle room does he have nowadays? |
A lot less. His popularity has gone from the 60s and 70 percents to about the 30 percent. And so he--and most of that support remains with conservatives and Republicans. Now on the other hand, the wiggle room could also come in in the form of a legal opinion, which would say, `You can't sign this into law, because it's unconstitutional,' because, as we spoke of earlier, Prop. 22. So he might not have wiggle room, but he might have an out, saying, `I agree with many of the principles here, but I think the time is wrong, and we have to let the courts decide which is constitutional or not.' | a lot less his popularity has gone from the 60s and 70 percents to about the 30 percent and so he--and most; of that support remains with conservatives and republicans now on the other. hand; the wiggle room could also come in in the form of a legal opinion which would say `you can't sign this into law because it's unconstitutional' because as we spoke of earlier prop 22. so he might not have wiggle room but he might, have an, out saying, `i; agree with many of the principles here but i think the time is wrong and we have to let the. courts decide which is constitutional or | A lot less His popularity has gone from the 60s and, 70 percents to about the 30 percent And so he--and most of that support remains with conservatives and Republicans Now on the other hand the wiggle room could also come in in the form of a legal opinion which would say `You can't sign this into law because it's unconstitutional' because as we spoke of earlier Prop 22. So he might not have wiggle room but he might have an out saying, `I agree with many of the principles here but I think the time is wrong and we have to let the courts decide which is constitutional or. | a lot less. his popularity has gone from the 60s and 70 percents to about the 30 percent. and so he--and most of that support remains with conservatives and republicans. now on the other hand, the wiggle room could also come in in the form of a legal opinion, which would say, `you can't sign this into law, because it's unconstitutional,' because, as we spoke of earlier, prop. 22. so he might not have wiggle room, but he might have an out, saying, `i agree with many of the principles here, but i think the time is wrong, and we have to let the courts decide which is constitutional or not.' |
Phil Matier, thanks a lot for talking with us once again. | phil matier thanks a lot. for talking with us once | Phil Matier thanks a lot for talking with us. once | phil matier, thanks a lot for talking with us once again. |
Always good to talk with you. | always good to talk with | Always good to talk with | always good to talk with you. |
That's Phil Matier, political columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle. | that's phil matier political columnist for the san francisco | That's Phil Matier political columnist for the San. Francisco | that's phil matier, political columnist for the san francisco chronicle. |
From NPR News, this is All Things Considered. I'm Melissa Block. | from npr news this is all things considered i'm melissa, | From NPR News this is All; Things Considered I'm Melissa | from npr news, this is all things considered. i'm melissa block. |
I'm Robert Siegel. And we begin this hour with the man Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich named to fill out Barack Obama's term in the U.S. Senate. Roland Burris was the first African-American to win a statewide race in Illinois. It was for comptroller, and then he was elected attorney general. Mr. Burris, welcome to the program. | i'm robert siegel and we begin this hour with the man illinois governor rod blagojevich named to, fill out, barack, obama's term in the u.s senate roland, burris. was, the first african-american to win. a statewide race in illinois it was for comptroller and then he was; elected, attorney general mr burris welcome to the | I'm Robert Siegel And we begin this hour with the man Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich named to fill out, Barack Obama's term in the U.S Senate Roland. Burris was; the. first. African-American to. win a statewide race in Illinois It was for comptroller and then he was elected attorney general Mr Burris welcome to the | i'm robert siegel. and we begin this hour with the man illinois governor rod blagojevich named to fill out barack obama's term in the u.s. senate. roland burris was the first african-american to win a statewide race in illinois. it was for comptroller, and then he was elected attorney general. mr. burris, welcome to the program. |
Thank you very much. It's my pleasure. | thank you very much. it's, my | Thank you very much It's my | thank you very much. it's my pleasure. |
For the foreseeable future, I think you're going to be referred to as I just did, as the man Rod Blagojevich picked. Why hang your own career and reputation on the governor's very uncertain future? | for the foreseeable future. i think. you're going to be referred to as i just did as the man rod blagojevich picked why hang your own career and reputation on the governor's very uncertain | For the foreseeable future I think you're going to be referred to as I just, did as the man Rod Blagojevich picked Why hang your own career and reputation on the governor's very uncertain | for the foreseeable future, i think you're going to be referred to as i just did, as the man rod blagojevich picked. why hang your own career and reputation on the governor's very uncertain future? |
Permit me to respond in this way. The governor is still the governor of the state of Illinois. He has Constitutional duties and responsibilities. He sought to carry out that Constitutional duty by appointing a person, Roland Burris, to the vacancy that was created by the resignation of President-elect Barack Obama. That is a constitutional legal decision that he made. It has nothing to do with the governor. I am now the senator from the state of Illinois. You may choose to call me whatever you like. But, I am the senator, legally appointed by the governor. | permit me, to respond in this way the governor is, still the governor of the state of illinois he has constitutional duties and. responsibilities he sought to carry out that constitutional duty by appointing a person. roland burris to the vacancy that was created by the resignation of president-elect barack obama that is a constitutional legal decision that he made it has nothing to do with the governor i. am now the senator from the state of illinois you may choose to call me whatever you like but i am the senator legally appointed by the | Permit me to. respond in this way The governor is still the, governor of the state of, Illinois He has Constitutional, duties and responsibilities He sought to carry out that Constitutional duty by appointing a person Roland Burris to the vacancy that was created by the resignation of President-elect Barack Obama That is a constitutional; legal decision that he made It has nothing to do with the governor I, am now the senator, from the, state of Illinois You may choose to call me whatever you like But I am the senator legally. appointed by the | permit me to respond in this way. the governor is still the governor of the state of illinois. he has constitutional duties and responsibilities. he sought to carry out that constitutional duty by appointing a person, roland burris, to the vacancy that was created by the resignation of president-elect barack obama. that is a constitutional legal decision that he made. it has nothing to do with the governor. i am now the senator from the state of illinois. you may choose to call me whatever you like. but, i am the senator, legally appointed by the governor. |
Well, let me put to you what Chicago Congressman Danny Davis told the Chicago Sun Times today, you know this. He says he was offered the job last week. And then he says, these are his words, it would be difficult to generate the trust level people would have to have in me. I just decided there was too much turmoil, too much disagreement. It was something I wanted to do, that is, become senator. But I said, I would not take an appointment from the governor. How did you see things differently? | well let me put to you what chicago congressman danny davis; told the chicago sun times today you know this he says he was offered the job last week and then he says these are. his words it would be difficult to generate the trust level people would have to have, in me i just decided there was too. much turmoil too much disagreement it was something i wanted to do that, is become senator but i said i would not take an appointment from the governor how did you see things | Well let me put to you what Chicago Congressman Danny Davis. told the Chicago Sun Times today you know, this, He says he was offered the job. last week. And then he says these are his words it would be difficult to generate the trust level people would have to have in. me I just decided there was too much turmoil too much disagreement It was something I wanted, to do that is become senator But I said. I would not take an appointment from the governor How did you see things | well, let me put to you what chicago congressman danny davis told the chicago sun times today, you know this. he says he was offered the job last week. and then he says, these are his words, it would be difficult to generate the trust level people would have to have in me. i just decided there was too much turmoil, too much disagreement. it was something i wanted to do, that is, become senator. but i said, i would not take an appointment from the governor. how did you see things differently? |
I see things differently because I've been a statewide elected official of this state. I know the problems of the state of Illinois. I know that I can impact those problems with my position as senator from our state. I've been elected four times in the state, and therefore, the governor exercised his Constitutional duty, and appointed me. I certainly found it - it was in my interest to continue with my labor of love - is working for the people of Illinois. | i see things differently. because i've been a statewide elected official, of; this state i know the problems of the state of illinois i know that i can impact those problems with my position as senator from our state i've been elected four times in the state and therefore the governor exercised his. constitutional duty and. appointed. me i certainly found. it - it was. in my. interest to continue with my labor of love - is working for the people of | I see things differently because I've been a statewide elected official of this state I know the problems of. the state of Illinois I know that, I can impact those problems with my position as senator from our, state I've been elected, four times in the state and therefore the governor exercised. his Constitutional duty and, appointed me I certainly found it - it was in, my interest to. continue with my labor of, love - is working for the people of | i see things differently because i've been a statewide elected official of this state. i know the problems of the state of illinois. i know that i can impact those problems with my position as senator from our state. i've been elected four times in the state, and therefore, the governor exercised his constitutional duty, and appointed me. i certainly found it - it was in my interest to continue with my labor of love - is working for the people of illinois. |
What's your response to the Democratic senators, and to - including Senator Obama, President-elect Obama, saying that they're disappointed in the governor's action, and they intend not to accept you in the Senate? | what's your response to the democratic senators and to. - including, senator, obama president-elect obama saying that they're disappointed in the. governor's action and they intend; not to accept you in the | What's your response to the Democratic, senators and to - including Senator Obama President-elect Obama saying that they're disappointed in the governor's action and they intend not to accept you, in the | what's your response to the democratic senators, and to - including senator obama, president-elect obama, saying that they're disappointed in the governor's action, and they intend not to accept you in the senate? |
Well, and I think that they have to separate the governor's problems with the governor's duties and responsibilities. Would you venture to say that the governor's actions are illegal? Is that what they're saying? | well and i think that they, have to separate the governor's problems with the governor's duties and responsibilities would you venture to say that the governor's actions are illegal? is. that what they're | Well and I think that they have to separate the governor's problems with the governor's duties and responsibilities Would you venture to say that the governor's actions are illegal? Is that what they're | well, and i think that they have to separate the governor's problems with the governor's duties and responsibilities. would you venture to say that the governor's actions are illegal? is that what they're saying? |
Well, they didn't say that in their letter. No. They didn't say it was illegal. | well they didn't say that, in, their letter no they didn't say it was | Well. they. didn't say that in, their. letter No They didn't say it was | well, they didn't say that in their letter. no. they didn't say it was illegal. |
OK. Then if the actions are legal, then we are right in our position, and the governor has the legal authority to make the appointment. | ok then if the actions are legal then we are right in, our position, and the governor has the legal authority, to make the | OK Then, if the actions are legal then we are right, in our position and the governor has the legal, authority to make the | ok. then if the actions are legal, then we are right in our position, and the governor has the legal authority to make the appointment. |
Let's say that you come to town next week, and the senators decline to seat you, what do you do? | let's say that you come to town next week and the senators decline to seat you what do you | Let's say, that you come to town next week. and the senators decline to seat you what do you | let's say that you come to town next week, and the senators decline to seat you, what do you do? |
Well, I think that we'll have it worked out when I come into Washington. We're not coming to, you know, to make a type of confrontation. That's not what we're about. I have the qualifications and the abilities to serve in that great, august body. I will be seated. | well i think that we'll have it worked out when i come, into washington; we're not coming to you. know. to make a type of confrontation that's. not what we're about i have the qualifications and the abilities to serve in that great august body i will be | Well I think that we'll have it worked out when I come into Washington We're not coming to you know to make a type of confrontation That's not what we're about I have the qualifications and the abilities, to serve in that great august body I will be | well, i think that we'll have it worked out when i come into washington. we're not coming to, you know, to make a type of confrontation. that's not what we're about. i have the qualifications and the abilities to serve in that great, august body. i will be seated. |
But, in fact, Senators Reid and Durbin, the two most senior Democrats, have said the contrary, that they don't want to see you seated. It may be that... | but in fact senators reid and durbin the two most senior democrats have said the contrary that they don't want to, see you seated it may be | But in fact Senators Reid and Durbin the two most senior Democrats have said the contrary that, they don't want to see you seated It may be | but, in fact, senators reid and durbin, the two most senior democrats, have said the contrary, that they don't want to see you seated. it may be that... |
Did anybody asked them why? They actually have nothing against Roland Burris. They also said that, isn't that correct? ..TEXT: SIEGEL: I think they did say that they were against seating you in the body, and I'm wondering whether you will litigate that, and if that happens, would you take them to court on it? | did anybody asked them why? they actually have nothing against roland burris they also said, that isn't that correct? ..text: siegel: i think they did say that, they were against seating you in the body and i'm wondering. whether you will litigate that and if, that happens would you take them to court on | Did anybody asked them why? They actually have nothing against Roland Burris. They also said that isn't that correct? ..TEXT: SIEGEL: I think, they did say that, they, were against seating you in the body and I'm wondering whether you will litigate that and if that, happens would you take them to court on | did anybody asked them why? they actually have nothing against roland burris. they also said that, isn't that correct? ..text: siegel: i think they did say that they were against seating you in the body, and i'm wondering whether you will litigate that, and if that happens, would you take them to court on it? |
Well, if well, if - we'll take these one step at a time. We're pretty sure that we're going to negotiate this and work this out as (unintelligible) into understand what the legal rights are. | well if well if - we'll, take these one step at a time we're pretty sure that we're going to. negotiate this and work this out as (unintelligible) into understand what the legal rights | Well if well if - we'll take these one step at a time, We're pretty sure that we're going to. negotiate this and work this out as (unintelligible) into understand what the legal rights | well, if well, if - we'll take these one step at a time. we're pretty sure that we're going to negotiate this and work this out as (unintelligible) into understand what the legal rights are. |
Thank you for finding time to talk with us. But do you expect to talk this evening with Senator Durbin? | thank you for finding time to talk with. us but do you. expect to talk, this evening with senator | Thank you for finding time to talk with us But do you expect to talk this. evening with Senator | thank you for finding time to talk with us. but do you expect to talk this evening with senator durbin? |
I was, well, yes. As a matter of fact, he has called me twice. But I will certainly talk to Senator Durbin. And I wan to wish you and all the listeners a very Happy New Year. Celebrate heartily, but just keep everything safe, OK? | i was well yes, as a matter of, fact he; has called me twice but; i will certainly talk to senator durbin and i wan to wish you and all the, listeners a very happy new year celebrate heartily; but just keep everything safe | I was well yes As a matter of fact he has called me twice, But I will certainly talk to Senator Durbin And I wan to wish you and all the listeners a very Happy, New, Year Celebrate heartily but just keep everything safe | i was, well, yes. as a matter of fact, he has called me twice. but i will certainly talk to senator durbin. and i wan to wish you and all the listeners a very happy new year. celebrate heartily, but just keep everything safe, ok? |
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