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Happy New Year. And we'd like to hear the substance of your conversation with Senator Durbin later in the week. Thanks a lot for talking with us. | happy new year and we'd like to hear the substance of your conversation with senator durbin later in the week thanks a lot for talking with | Happy New Year And we'd like to hear. the substance of, your conversation with Senator Durbin later in the week Thanks a lot for talking with | happy new year. and we'd like to hear the substance of your conversation with senator durbin later in the week. thanks a lot for talking with us. |
Well, OK. Thank you so much. Happy New Year. | well ok thank you so much happy new | Well OK Thank you so much Happy New | well, ok. thank you so much. happy new year. |
Happy New Year. That is Roland Burris, appointed by Rod Blagojevich, Senator Roland Burris from the State of Illinois. | happy new year that is roland burris appointed by rod blagojevich senator roland. burris. from the state of | Happy New Year. That is Roland Burris. appointed by Rod Blagojevich Senator Roland, Burris, from the State of | happy new year. that is roland burris, appointed by rod blagojevich, senator roland burris from the state of illinois. |
This is TALK of THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan in Washington. | this is talk of the nation i'm neal conan in | This is TALK of THE. NATION I'm Neal Conan in | this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan in washington. |
Over the weekend, Colombian soldiers crossed into Ecuador and killed 21 guerrillas including one of the top leaders of the FARC, the leftist rebel army that's been fighting the Colombian government for decades. | over the weekend colombian soldiers crossed into ecuador and killed 21 guerrillas including one of the top leaders of the farc the leftist rebel army that's been fighting the colombian government for | Over the; weekend Colombian; soldiers crossed into Ecuador and killed 21 guerrillas including one of the top leaders of the FARC the leftist rebel army that's been fighting the Colombian. government for, | over the weekend, colombian soldiers crossed into ecuador and killed 21 guerrillas including one of the top leaders of the farc, the leftist rebel army that's been fighting the colombian government for decades. |
Colombian officials discovered a FARC laptop which they claim contains evidence that the rebels wanted to obtain radioactive material to make a so-called dirty bomb, and that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez channeled $300 million to support the FARC. | colombian officials discovered a farc laptop which, they claim, contains evidence that the rebels wanted to obtain radioactive material, to make a so-called dirty bomb, and that venezuelan president. hugo chavez channeled $300 million to support the | Colombian officials discovered a FARC laptop which they, claim contains evidence that the. rebels wanted to obtain; radioactive material to make a so-called; dirty, bomb and, that Venezuelan President Hugo, Chavez channeled $300 million, to support the | colombian officials discovered a farc laptop which they claim contains evidence that the rebels wanted to obtain radioactive material to make a so-called dirty bomb, and that venezuelan president hugo chavez channeled $300 million to support the farc. |
Both Venezuela and Ecuador sent troops to the Colombian border in protest, and today, Venezuela mobilized naval, air and armored units. President Chavez called Colombia the Israel of Latin America while Ecuador and Venezuela demanded that the Organization of American States condemn the cross-border raid. The OAS stopped short of condemnation, however, and did say that Colombia violated international law. President Bush said the U.S. stands by its ally, Colombia. | both venezuela and ecuador sent troops to the colombian border in protest and today. venezuela mobilized naval air and, armored units president, chavez called colombia the israel, of latin america while. ecuador and venezuela demanded that the, organization of american states condemn the cross-border raid the oas, stopped short of condemnation however and. did say. that. colombia, violated international law president bush said the u.s stands by its ally | Both Venezuela and Ecuador sent troops to. the Colombian border in, protest and today Venezuela mobilized naval air and armored units President Chavez called Colombia the Israel of Latin America while Ecuador and Venezuela demanded that, the Organization of American States condemn the cross-border raid The OAS stopped short of condemnation however and did say that Colombia. violated international law President Bush said the U.S stands by its ally | both venezuela and ecuador sent troops to the colombian border in protest, and today, venezuela mobilized naval, air and armored units. president chavez called colombia the israel of latin america while ecuador and venezuela demanded that the organization of american states condemn the cross-border raid. the oas stopped short of condemnation, however, and did say that colombia violated international law. president bush said the u.s. stands by its ally, colombia. |
If you want to know more about the tensions between Colombia, Ecuador and Venezuela, the roles of the U.S., and the FARC, our numbers is 800-989-8255. E-mail is [email protected]. You can also join the conversation on our blog at npr.org/blogofthenation. | if you want to know more about the tensions between colombia ecuador and venezuela the roles of the u.s., and the farc our numbers is, 800-989-8255. e-mail is [email protected] you can also join the, conversation on our blog at | If you; want to know more about the tensions between Colombia Ecuador and Venezuela the roles of the U.S., and the FARC our numbers is 800-989-8255. E-mail is [email protected]. You, can; also join the conversation on our, blog at | if you want to know more about the tensions between colombia, ecuador and venezuela, the roles of the u.s., and the farc, our numbers is 800-989-8255. e-mail is [email protected]. you can also join the conversation on our blog at npr.org/blogofthenation. |
We begin with Julia Sweig, senior fellow and director of Latin American Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. She's with us from a studio there. | we begin with julia sweig senior fellow and director of latin american studies at the council, on foreign relations she's with us from a; studio | We begin with Julia Sweig senior fellow and director of Latin American Studies at the Council on, Foreign Relations She's with us from a studio | we begin with julia sweig, senior fellow and director of latin american studies at the council on foreign relations. she's with us from a studio there. |
Nice to have you on TALK OF THE NATION again. | nice to have you on talk of the nation; | Nice to have you on TALK OF THE NATION | nice to have you on talk of the nation again. |
Thanks for having me, Neal. | thanks, for having me. | Thanks for having me | thanks for having me, neal. |
And what exactly happened over the weekend? | and what exactly happened over the | And what exactly, happened over the, | and what exactly happened over the weekend? |
Well, as you said, over the weekend, late over Saturday night, I believe, the Colombian government obtained, I guess, actionable intelligence which allowed them to pinpoint the exact location on the very northern border with Ecuador of a FARC encampment where Raul Reyes the number two in command was located. And they sent a helicopter, dropped some soldiers on the ground, followed up very rapidly with air strikes and, as you said, killed 20 people include Reyes and confiscated this laptop. | well as you said, over the weekend late over, saturday night i believe the colombian government obtained i guess actionable intelligence which allowed them to pinpoint the exact location on the very northern border with ecuador of a farc encampment where raul reyes the number. two in command was located and they sent a. helicopter dropped some soldiers on the ground followed up very; rapidly with air strikes. and as you said killed. 20 people include reyes and confiscated this | Well as you said over the weekend late over Saturday night I. believe the Colombian government obtained I. guess actionable intelligence which allowed, them to pinpoint, the exact. location, on the very northern border with Ecuador of a FARC encampment where Raul Reyes the number two in. command was located And they sent a helicopter. dropped, some soldiers on the ground followed up very rapidly with air strikes and as you said killed 20 people include Reyes and confiscated this | well, as you said, over the weekend, late over saturday night, i believe, the colombian government obtained, i guess, actionable intelligence which allowed them to pinpoint the exact location on the very northern border with ecuador of a farc encampment where raul reyes the number two in command was located. and they sent a helicopter, dropped some soldiers on the ground, followed up very rapidly with air strikes and, as you said, killed 20 people include reyes and confiscated this laptop. |
And was it widely known that the FARC had refuges, safe places to operate from inside Ecuadorian territory? | and was it, widely known that the farc had refuges safe places to operate. from inside ecuadorian | And was, it widely known that the FARC had refuges safe places to operate from inside Ecuadorian | and was it widely known that the farc had refuges, safe places to operate from inside ecuadorian territory? |
Absolutely. The FARC has for probably decades but at least for the last eight to 10 years used the northern part of Ecuador for its rear guard; the FARC's presence there helps sustain villages, rest and relaxation, and basically a rear guard area for their troops, so this is a longstanding presence. The Ecuadorian governments in the past have said that - and probably in the present - that their northern border is with the FARC not with Colombia, so it's a longstanding presence. | absolutely the farc has for probably decades but at. least for the last eight to 10 years used the northern part, of ecuador for its rear. guard the farc's presence there helps sustain villages rest and, relaxation and basically a rear guard area for their troops so this. is a longstanding presence the ecuadorian governments in. the past have said. that - and probably in the present - that their northern border is with the farc not with colombia so it's a, longstanding | Absolutely The FARC has for probably. decades but at least for the last eight to 10 years used the northern, part of Ecuador for its rear guard the FARC's presence. there helps. sustain villages rest. and relaxation and basically a rear guard area. for their troops so this is a longstanding presence The Ecuadorian governments in the past have said that - and probably in the present - that their northern border, is with the FARC not with Colombia so, it's a longstanding | absolutely. the farc has for probably decades but at least for the last eight to 10 years used the northern part of ecuador for its rear guard; the farc's presence there helps sustain villages, rest and relaxation, and basically a rear guard area for their troops, so this is a longstanding presence. the ecuadorian governments in the past have said that - and probably in the present - that their northern border is with the farc not with colombia, so it's a longstanding presence. |
There's also this - you mentioned the laptop which contained a lot of information including, if you believe it, a longstanding relationship with the FARC and Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela. | there's also this - you mentioned the laptop which contained a lot of information including if you believe it a longstanding relationship, with the farc and hugo. chavez the president of | There's also this - you mentioned the laptop which contained a lot, of information including if you believe it a longstanding relationship with the FARC and Hugo Chavez the president of | there's also this - you mentioned the laptop which contained a lot of information including, if you believe it, a longstanding relationship with the farc and hugo chavez, the president of venezuela. |
Well, I don't know why we wouldn't believe it. Of course, the details of the nature of that relationship are hard to ascertain just on the basis of the transcriptions the Colombian government has given to the public. But the FARC and Hugo Chavez do have a relationship that goes back to early in this century - I don't know, about earlier. And of course, Hugo Chavez had been engaged in negotiating with the FARC to get some Colombian hostages released. We know about that relationship but this seems to be a relationship that is deeper, that has financial and other security connotations, the ideological sympathies are articulated by both the Venezuelans and the FARC, so the relationship is not in doubt. It's just its nature that we're starting to see now. | well; i don't know why we wouldn't believe it. of course the details of the nature of that, relationship are hard to ascertain just on the basis of the transcriptions the colombian government has given to the public but the farc and hugo chavez do have a relationship that goes, back to early in this century - i. don't know about earlier and of course hugo chavez had been engaged in. negotiating with the farc to get some colombian hostages released, we know about that relationship but this seems to be, a relationship that is, deeper, that has financial, and other security connotations the ideological sympathies. are articulated by both the venezuelans, and the farc so the relationship is not in doubt. it's just its nature that we're starting to see | Well. I don't know why we wouldn't believe it, Of course the details of the nature of that relationship, are hard to ascertain just on the basis of the transcriptions the Colombian government has given to; the public But the FARC and Hugo Chavez do, have a relationship that goes back to early in this century - I don't know about earlier. And of course Hugo Chavez had been engaged in negotiating with the FARC; to get some, Colombian hostages released We know about that relationship but this. seems to be a relationship that is deeper that has financial and other. security connotations the ideological sympathies are articulated by both the Venezuelans and the FARC so the relationship is not in doubt It's just its nature that we're starting to see | well, i don't know why we wouldn't believe it. of course, the details of the nature of that relationship are hard to ascertain just on the basis of the transcriptions the colombian government has given to the public. but the farc and hugo chavez do have a relationship that goes back to early in this century - i don't know, about earlier. and of course, hugo chavez had been engaged in negotiating with the farc to get some colombian hostages released. we know about that relationship but this seems to be a relationship that is deeper, that has financial and other security connotations, the ideological sympathies are articulated by both the venezuelans and the farc, so the relationship is not in doubt. it's just its nature that we're starting to see now. |
And with that first prisoner exchange which was - what - just a couple of - three weeks ago, there was open support calling on European and the United Nations to drop the FARC as a terrorist organization and say there was a legitimate organization. | and with, that, first prisoner exchange which was - what - just, a couple of - three weeks ago. there was open support. calling on european and the united nations to drop, the farc. as a terrorist organization and, say there was a legitimate, | And, with that first prisoner exchange which, was - what, - just a couple of - three weeks ago there was open support. calling on European and the United Nations to drop the FARC as a terrorist organization and say there was a legitimate | and with that first prisoner exchange which was - what - just a couple of - three weeks ago, there was open support calling on european and the united nations to drop the farc as a terrorist organization and say there was a legitimate organization. |
Neal, in my view, that's the really and crucial turning point in this episode when Chavez comes out and says that the FARC should come off of the terrorist list kept in Europe and by the United States which has been supported by both Democrats and Republicans and pretty much across the globe by U.S. allies to see the FARC as terrorists. | neal in my view that's the really and crucial turning point in this episode when chavez comes out and says that the, farc should come off of the terrorist list kept in europe and by the united. states which has been supported, by both democrats and republicans and pretty much across the globe by u.s, allies to see the farc as | Neal in my view, that's the really and crucial turning point in this; episode when Chavez. comes out and says that the. FARC should come off of the terrorist list kept in Europe and by the United States. which has been supported, by both Democrats and Republicans and pretty much across the globe by U.S allies to see the FARC as | neal, in my view, that's the really and crucial turning point in this episode when chavez comes out and says that the farc should come off of the terrorist list kept in europe and by the united states which has been supported by both democrats and republicans and pretty much across the globe by u.s. allies to see the farc as terrorists. |
That was a real turning point because there looks as though Hugo Chavez is trying to get the FARC to have legitimate status as a belligerent group which under international law would give it a different kind of status. And that really is a turning point and as what makes plausible some of the allegations that the Colombian government is now putting out there on the basis of what's in that laptop. | that was a real turning point because there looks as though hugo chavez is trying to. get the farc to. have legitimate status as a belligerent group which under, international law would give it a different kind of status, and that really is a, turning point and as what makes plausible some of. the allegations that the colombian. government is. now putting out there on. the basis of what's. in that | That was a real turning point because there looks as though Hugo Chavez is trying to get the FARC; to have legitimate, status as a belligerent group which under international law would give it a. different kind of status; And that really is a turning point and. as what makes plausible some of the allegations that the Colombian government is now putting out, there on. the basis of, what's in that | that was a real turning point because there looks as though hugo chavez is trying to get the farc to have legitimate status as a belligerent group which under international law would give it a different kind of status. and that really is a turning point and as what makes plausible some of the allegations that the colombian government is now putting out there on the basis of what's in that laptop. |
Yet, a lot of people will mistrust almost anything the Colombian government says particularly about its bitter rival, Hugo Chavez. | yet a lot of people will mistrust almost. anything the colombian government says particularly about; its bitter rival hugo | Yet a, lot, of people will mistrust almost anything the Colombian government says particularly about its bitter rival. Hugo | yet, a lot of people will mistrust almost anything the colombian government says particularly about its bitter rival, hugo chavez. |
You're very welcome. Thank you. | you're very welcome thank | You're very welcome, Thank | you're very welcome. thank you. |
Trust is something very complex and it is something that is cognitive. You know, it has to do with our mind making judgments. But, of course, when we make those judgments, inevitably we also generate emotion and feeling in relation to those judgments. | trust is something very complex and it is something that is; cognitive, you know it has to. do with our mind. making judgments but of course when we, make those judgments inevitably we also generate emotion and feeling in relation to those | Trust, is something, very. complex and it is something that, is cognitive You know it has to do with our mind making judgments But of course when. we make those judgments inevitably we also generate emotion and feeling in relation to. those | trust is something very complex and it is something that is cognitive. you know, it has to do with our mind making judgments. but, of course, when we make those judgments, inevitably we also generate emotion and feeling in relation to those judgments. |
Damasio says it's the combination of reason and emotion that's allowed people to create societies based on trust, and he speculates that politicians and marketers have already learned what to say to get our brains to churn out oxytocin. | damasio says it's the combination, of reason, and emotion that's allowed people to create societies based on trust. and he speculates that politicians and marketers have already learned what to say; to get our brains to churn out | Damasio says it's the combination. of reason and emotion that's allowed people; to create; societies based on, trust and he speculates. that politicians and marketers have already learned; what to say, to get our brains to churn out | damasio says it's the combination of reason and emotion that's allowed people to create societies based on trust, and he speculates that politicians and marketers have already learned what to say to get our brains to churn out oxytocin. |
How do we know that the effects of advertisement and marketing are not produced precisely by the natural release of such a substance into our brains? So maybe we have, in fact, been using it all along without knowing that we have been using it specifically. | how do we know that the effects of advertisement and marketing are not produced precisely by the natural release of such, a substance into, our brains? so maybe we have in fact been using it all along without knowing that we have been using it | How do we know that the effects of. advertisement and marketing are not produced precisely by the natural release of such a substance, into our brains? So maybe we have in fact been using it all along without knowing, that we, have. been using it | how do we know that the effects of advertisement and marketing are not produced precisely by the natural release of such a substance into our brains? so maybe we have, in fact, been using it all along without knowing that we have been using it specifically. |
Someday, Damasio says, someone may figure out a way to use oxytocin to win false trust. But the study suggests that won't be easy. Once the brain is flooded with its own oxytocin, adding an extra dose doesn't seem to make us any more trusting. | someday damasio says someone may figure out a way to use. oxytocin to, win false trust but the study suggests that won't be easy once the. brain is flooded with. its own oxytocin adding an extra, dose doesn't seem to make us any more | Someday Damasio says; someone may figure; out a way to use oxytocin to, win false trust But. the study suggests that won't be easy Once the brain, is flooded. with, its own oxytocin adding an extra dose doesn't seem to make us any more | someday, damasio says, someone may figure out a way to use oxytocin to win false trust. but the study suggests that won't be easy. once the brain is flooded with its own oxytocin, adding an extra dose doesn't seem to make us any more trusting. |
Jon Hamilton, NPR News. | jon hamilton npr | Jon Hamilton NPR | jon hamilton, npr news. |
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From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Rebecca Roberts. | from npr news this. is all things considered. i'm rebecca | From NPR News this is ALL; THINGS CONSIDERED I'm Rebecca | from npr news, this is all things considered. i'm rebecca roberts. |
And I'm Robert Siegel. | and i'm robert | And; I'm Robert | and i'm robert siegel. |
Google is a company that does things in a big way, and in 2004, been announced one of its most ambitious projects ever. It said it wanted to digitize all the books in the world and make them available to its users online. The idea provoked lawsuits by publishers and authors groups who said it violated their copyrights. | google is a company that, does. things in a big way and. in 2004, been announced one, of. its most ambitious projects ever it, said it wanted to digitize all the books in the world and make, them available to its users online the idea provoked lawsuits. by publishers and authors groups who said it violated their | Google is a company that does things in a big way and in, 2004, been. announced one of, its most ambitious projects ever It said it wanted to digitize all the books in the world and. make. them. available to its users online, The idea provoked lawsuits by publishers and authors groups. who said it violated, their | google is a company that does things in a big way, and in 2004, been announced one of its most ambitious projects ever. it said it wanted to digitize all the books in the world and make them available to its users online. the idea provoked lawsuits by publishers and authors groups who said it violated their copyrights. |
Well, since then, Google has managed to digitize more than a million books, and some publishers now say the project is good for business. | well since then google has managed to digitize more than a, million books. and some publishers. now say, the project. is, good for | Well since then Google, has managed to digitize more than a million books and some publishers now say, the project is good. for | well, since then, google has managed to digitize more than a million books, and some publishers now say the project is good for business. |
NPR's Jim Zarroli has the story. | npr's jim zarroli has the | NPR's Jim Zarroli has the | npr's jim zarroli has the story. |
For the publishing industry, Book Expo in New York is a biennial spring ritual. Librarians, bookstore owners and publishers of every size come to the Javits Convention Center to see what's happening in the book business. | for the publishing industry book expo. in new york; is a biennial spring ritual librarians bookstore owners and publishers of every size come to the javits convention; center; to, see, what's happening in the book | For the. publishing industry Book Expo; in New York is a biennial spring ritual Librarians bookstore owners and publishers of every size come to the Javits Convention Center to see what's. happening in the book | for the publishing industry, book expo in new york is a biennial spring ritual. librarians, bookstore owners and publishers of every size come to the javits convention center to see what's happening in the book business. |
At this year's convention - which ended yesterday - established companies like HarperCollins and Barnes & Noble found themselves sharing the floor with a relative newcomer, Google Book Search. | at this year's; convention. - which ended yesterday - established companies, like harpercollins and barnes & noble found themselves sharing the floor with a relative newcomer google. book | At this year's convention - which ended yesterday - established companies like HarperCollins, and Barnes & Noble found, themselves sharing the floor with a, relative newcomer Google Book | at this year's convention - which ended yesterday - established companies like harpercollins and barnes & noble found themselves sharing the floor with a relative newcomer, google book search. |
One of the things you really realize early on this project is there's lots of great information on the Web, but books were missing. | one of the things you really realize early on this project is there's lots of great information on the web but books were | One of the things you really realize early on this project is there's lots of great information on the Web but, books, were | one of the things you really realize early on this project is there's lots of great information on the web, but books were missing. |
Adam Smith manages Google Book Search. | adam smith manages google book | Adam Smith manages Google Book | adam smith manages google book search. |
And in order to really create a comprehensive search index, we thought it was very important that the world books are also searched when a user comes to Google. | and in order to really create a comprehensive search index we thought it was very important that the world books are, also searched when a user comes to | And in order to really create a comprehensive, search index we, thought it was. very important that the world books are also, searched when a user comes to, | and in order to really create a comprehensive search index, we thought it was very important that the world books are also searched when a user comes to google. |
Smith and other Google employees have camped out here to show people how Book Search works. He types into a laptop. | smith and other google employees have camped out here to show. people how book search works he types into a | Smith and other Google employees have camped out here to show people how; Book, Search works He types into a | smith and other google employees have camped out here to show people how book search works. he types into a laptop. |
Here, you type in "Moby Dick" in Google, and you'll see next to this word - Web, there is a book link. And in this case, you have access to a public domain copy of the book, where you can see the book in its entirety. If you're interested, you could also download a copy or you… | here you type in "moby dick" in google, and you'll see next to this word - web. there is; a book link and in this case you have, access to a public domain copy of the book where you can see the book in its entirety if you're interested you. could also. download a copy or | Here you. type, in "Moby Dick" in. Google and you'll, see next to. this word - Web there is a, book. link And in this case you have access to a public domain copy of, the, book where you can see the book in its entirety If, you're interested you could also download a, copy or | here, you type in "moby dick" in google, and you'll see next to this word - web, there is a book link. and in this case, you have access to a public domain copy of the book, where you can see the book in its entirety. if you're interested, you could also download a copy or you… |
Nineteen-point-three megabytes, right? | nineteen-point-three megabytes | Nineteen-point-three megabytes | nineteen-point-three megabytes, right? |
It's a very long book. | it's a very long | It's a very long | it's a very long book. |
But Smith says books are just about more than downloading old books. When Book Search was unveiled three years ago, it was portrayed in the press as a kind of rapacious monster, giving books away online and playing havoc with the publishing industry's economic model. | but smith says books are just about more than downloading old books when book, search was unveiled three years, ago it was portrayed, in the press as a. kind of rapacious monster giving. books away online and playing havoc with the publishing industry's economic | But Smith says books are just about more than downloading old books When Book Search was, unveiled three years ago it was portrayed in the press as a kind of rapacious monster giving. books away online and playing havoc with the publishing industry's economic | but smith says books are just about more than downloading old books. when book search was unveiled three years ago, it was portrayed in the press as a kind of rapacious monster, giving books away online and playing havoc with the publishing industry's economic model. |
Today, there are more than a million books on Book Search - histories, biographies, novels, even textbooks. But Smith says unlike "Moby Dick", most of the books on Book Search are still under copyright, which means the company can only show a portion of them. That hasn't stopped the Author's Guild and a major publisher's group from suing Google for copyright infringement. But even as these suits have winded their way through the courts, Google has been reaching out to individual publishers. | today; there are more than a million books on book search - histories biographies novels even textbooks but smith says unlike, "moby dick", most of the books, on book search are still under, copyright which means the company can only show a portion of them that hasn't stopped the author's guild and a major publisher's group from suing. google for copyright infringement but even as these suits have winded their way through the courts google has been reaching out, to individual, | Today there are more than, a million books on Book Search - histories biographies. novels even textbooks But Smith says unlike "Moby Dick", most of the books on Book Search, are still under, copyright which, means the company can only show. a portion of them That hasn't stopped the Author's. Guild and a major publisher's group from suing Google for copyright infringement But even as these suits have winded their way through the courts Google has been reaching, out. to individual | today, there are more than a million books on book search - histories, biographies, novels, even textbooks. but smith says unlike "moby dick", most of the books on book search are still under copyright, which means the company can only show a portion of them. that hasn't stopped the author's guild and a major publisher's group from suing google for copyright infringement. but even as these suits have winded their way through the courts, google has been reaching out to individual publishers. |
In many cases now, Google displays a portion of a book with a link, allowing a reader to buy the entire text. Evan Schnittman of Oxford University Press says it's been a great way to reaching in readers. | in many cases now google displays a portion, of a book, with a, link allowing a reader to buy the entire text evan schnittman of oxford university press says it's been a great way to reaching in | In many cases now Google displays a. portion of a. book with a link allowing a reader. to buy the entire text Evan Schnittman of Oxford; University, Press says it's, been a great way to reaching in | in many cases now, google displays a portion of a book with a link, allowing a reader to buy the entire text. evan schnittman of oxford university press says it's been a great way to reaching in readers. |
Three hundred and twenty-one thousand times in the last year and a half or so - two and a half years - people have clicked on an Oxford book saying, I want to buy this, which is a really, really, really important thing for us, our authors, you know, the state of publishing. And we spent nothing to do that. That's why we're a big fan of this program. | three hundred and twenty-one thousand times in the last. year and a half or so - two; and. a half years - people have clicked on an oxford. book, saying i want to buy this which is a really really really important thing for us our authors you know the state of publishing and, we, spent nothing to do, that that's why we're a big fan of this | Three hundred and twenty-one, thousand times. in the last year and a half or so. - two and a half years - people have clicked on an Oxford book saying I want to buy this which is a really really really important thing for us our authors, you know, the state of publishing And we spent nothing to do that That's why we're, a big fan of this | three hundred and twenty-one thousand times in the last year and a half or so - two and a half years - people have clicked on an oxford book saying, i want to buy this, which is a really, really, really important thing for us, our authors, you know, the state of publishing. and we spent nothing to do that. that's why we're a big fan of this program. |
But for other publishers, the program generates more questions than answers. Kate Tentler of Simon & Schuster says it's hard to say how much the program has affected sales. | but for other. publishers, the program generates more questions than answers kate; tentler of simon & schuster says it's hard. to say how much the program has affected | But for other publishers the program generates more, questions than answers. Kate Tentler of Simon & Schuster says it's hard to say how much, the program has affected | but for other publishers, the program generates more questions than answers. kate tentler of simon & schuster says it's hard to say how much the program has affected sales. |
I can see that when somebody comes from Google Book Search, they are more likely to buy that book than someone who'd came through just Google or MSN. But is that a sale that's living from some place else? I don't really know. It's hard to say it's already incremental. | i. can see that when somebody. comes from google book search they are more likely to buy, that book than, someone who'd came through just google or msn but is that a sale. that's living from some place else? i don't really know it's hard to say it's already. | I can see that when. somebody comes. from Google Book Search they are more likely to; buy that book than someone who'd came through just Google or MSN But is that a sale that's living from; some place else? I don't really know It's hard to. say it's. already | i can see that when somebody comes from google book search, they are more likely to buy that book than someone who'd came through just google or msn. but is that a sale that's living from some place else? i don't really know. it's hard to say it's already incremental. |
But Simon & Schuster still participates in Book Search, asking more than 10,000 other publishers. As Book Search has grown, it's also faced more competition. Random House now has an online book site of its own, and now, Microsoft had started its own service called Live Book Search. | but simon & schuster still participates in book search asking. more than 10,000 other publishers as book search has grown it's also faced more competition random house now has an online book site of its, own and now microsoft had started its own, service called live book | But Simon & Schuster still participates in Book. Search asking, more than 10,000 other publishers As Book Search has grown, it's also faced more competition Random House now has an online book, site of its own. and now Microsoft had, started. its own service called Live Book | but simon & schuster still participates in book search, asking more than 10,000 other publishers. as book search has grown, it's also faced more competition. random house now has an online book site of its own, and now, microsoft had started its own service called live book search. |
Google could end up transforming the way people buy books, but it's not going to do so without a fight. | google could end up transforming the way people buy books but it's not going to do so without a | Google could end up transforming the way people buy books but it's not going to do so without a. | google could end up transforming the way people buy books, but it's not going to do so without a fight. |
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From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Melissa Block. | from, npr news this is all things considered i'm melissa | From NPR News this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED I'm Melissa | from npr news, this is all things considered. i'm melissa block. |
In 1905, representatives of 43 labor groups came together in Chicago to form one big union - the Industrial Workers of the World, known as the Wobblies. The union was a big presence in the labor movement, leading strikes, walkouts and rallies across the nation. And everywhere its members went, they sang. | in 1905, representatives of 43 labor groups came together in chicago to form, one big union - the industrial workers of the world known as the. wobblies the union was a big presence in the labor movement leading strikes walkouts and rallies across the nation and everywhere its members went they | In 1905, representatives of 43 labor groups came together; in Chicago to form one big union - the Industrial Workers. of the World known as the Wobblies The union was a big presence in. the labor movement leading strikes walkouts and rallies across the nation And everywhere its members went they | in 1905, representatives of 43 labor groups came together in chicago to form one big union - the industrial workers of the world, known as the wobblies. the union was a big presence in the labor movement, leading strikes, walkouts and rallies across the nation. and everywhere its members went, they sang. |
On this Labor Day, independent producer Rachel Ann Goodman has this story about the music of the movement. | on this labor day independent, producer rachel ann goodman, has this story about the music of the | On, this Labor; Day independent producer Rachel Ann, Goodman has this story about the music of the | on this labor day, independent producer rachel ann goodman has this story about the music of the movement. |
The Wobblies were a radical union. Their motto was A World Without Bosses. and they were a singing union. | the wobblies were a radical union their motto, was a world without bosses. and they were a singing | The Wobblies were a. radical union Their motto was A World Without Bosses and they were a; singing | the wobblies were a radical union. their motto was a world without bosses. and they were a singing union. |
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Yes, Rome didn't lose too often. | yes. rome didn't lose, too, | Yes Rome didn't lose too | yes, rome didn't lose too often. |
Well, you know, the Colombian government has not done a good job in its regional diplomacy. It has tethered itself very closely to the United States, and as the relationship with the United States and Venezuela has worsen for lots of reasons over the last several years, Colombia has - and as, of course, we've seen governments in Ecuador, for example, in Bolivia become a lot closer to Chavez. Colombia has become isolated as compared to the past within the Andean region. | well you know the colombian government has not done a; good job in its regional diplomacy it has tethered itself very closely, to the united states and as the relationship with. the united states and venezuela has worsen for lots of reasons over the last several years colombia. has - and as of course we've seen governments in ecuador for example in bolivia become a lot closer to chavez colombia has become. isolated as compared to the past within the andean | Well you know the Colombian government has not done; a good job in. its, regional, diplomacy It has tethered itself very closely to the, United States and as the relationship with the United States and Venezuela has worsen for lots of reasons over, the last several years Colombia. has - and as of course we've seen governments in. Ecuador for example in Bolivia become; a lot closer to Chavez Colombia has become isolated as compared to the past within the Andean | well, you know, the colombian government has not done a good job in its regional diplomacy. it has tethered itself very closely to the united states, and as the relationship with the united states and venezuela has worsen for lots of reasons over the last several years, colombia has - and as, of course, we've seen governments in ecuador, for example, in bolivia become a lot closer to chavez. colombia has become isolated as compared to the past within the andean region. |
And that in addition to expecting the United States to protect it, I believe, at all cost has put itself in a very awkward position within the entire hemisphere, a hemisphere which, of course, as you know, is historically sensitive about incursions into sovereignty but, of course, the Ecuadorians, in this case, and Venezuela for many, many years because of the porous borders have had these rebel terrorists, drug trafficking groups incurring into their sovereignty for a very long time. | and that in. addition to expecting the united states to protect it i believe at. all cost has, put itself in. a very awkward position within the entire hemisphere a hemisphere, which of course as you know is historically sensitive about incursions into sovereignty, but of course the; ecuadorians in this case and venezuela, for. many many, years because of the porous borders have had these. rebel terrorists. drug trafficking groups incurring into their sovereignty for a very long | And that, in addition to, expecting the United States to protect it I; believe at all cost has put itself in a very awkward position, within the entire hemisphere a hemisphere which of course as you know; is historically sensitive about incursions into sovereignty but of course the Ecuadorians in this case and Venezuela for many many years because of the porous borders, have had these rebel; terrorists. drug trafficking groups incurring into their, sovereignty for a very long, | and that in addition to expecting the united states to protect it, i believe, at all cost has put itself in a very awkward position within the entire hemisphere, a hemisphere which, of course, as you know, is historically sensitive about incursions into sovereignty but, of course, the ecuadorians, in this case, and venezuela for many, many years because of the porous borders have had these rebel terrorists, drug trafficking groups incurring into their sovereignty for a very long time. |
Mm-hmm. The Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was asked about this situation earlier today and said the, well, the United States does support its ally, Colombia, but asked if the United States would act to support Colombia in the event of a military confrontation breaking out, he said, first of all, he thought that was very unlikely and that further, Colombia could take care of itself. | mm-hmm. the secretary of defense robert gates was asked about this situation earlier today and said the, well the, united states does support its ally colombia but asked if the united states would act to. support colombia in the event of a military confrontation breaking out he said first of all he thought that was very unlikely and that further colombia could take, care of | Mm-hmm The Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was asked about this situation earlier; today and said the. well. the United; States does support its ally Colombia but asked if the United States would, act to support Colombia in. the event of a military confrontation breaking out he said first of all he thought that was very unlikely and that further. Colombia could take, care of | mm-hmm. the secretary of defense robert gates was asked about this situation earlier today and said the, well, the united states does support its ally, colombia, but asked if the united states would act to support colombia in the event of a military confrontation breaking out, he said, first of all, he thought that was very unlikely and that further, colombia could take care of itself. |
On those two points, is this likely and can Colombia take care of itself? | on those, two points is this likely and can colombia, take care. of | On those two points. is this likely and can Colombia take care of | on those two points, is this likely and can colombia take care of itself? |
Well, if you look at the numbers, the Colombian Armed Forces are much larger in terms of boots on the ground capacity than the Venezuelans and also in terms of military capacity, I think. Is it likely? I have no idea because I don't think any of us know what Chavez's intentions are nor what the consequences, unintended perhaps, of putting that much military hardware and personnel on the border as he is doing. I hope it doesn't but we don't know. | well if you look. at the numbers the colombian armed forces are much larger in terms of boots on. the ground, capacity than the venezuelans, and also in terms of military capacity, i think is it likely? i have no idea because i. don't think any of us know what chavez's intentions are nor. what. the consequences unintended perhaps of, putting that much military hardware and personnel on the border as he is doing, i hope it doesn't but we don't. | Well. if you look at the numbers the Colombian. Armed Forces. are much larger in terms of boots on the, ground capacity than the Venezuelans, and. also in terms of, military capacity I think Is it likely? I have no idea because I don't think any of us know what Chavez's intentions are nor what the consequences unintended perhaps of putting that much military hardware and personnel on the, border as he is doing I hope it doesn't. but we don't | well, if you look at the numbers, the colombian armed forces are much larger in terms of boots on the ground capacity than the venezuelans and also in terms of military capacity, i think. is it likely? i have no idea because i don't think any of us know what chavez's intentions are nor what the consequences, unintended perhaps, of putting that much military hardware and personnel on the border as he is doing. i hope it doesn't but we don't know. |
And on the second point, can Colombia take care of itself? Also very, very hard to say. I think that there is a lot of pressure on Colombia right now, publicly and privately from other countries in the hemisphere that have more influence than the United States does regionally to resist the temptation to be provoked by Venezuela. | and; on the second point can colombia take care of itself? also very very hard to say i think that there is a lot of pressure on colombia right now publicly and privately from other countries in the hemisphere that have more influence than. the; united states does regionally to resist the temptation to be provoked by | And on the second point can Colombia take care of, itself? Also very very hard to say I think that there is a lot of pressure on Colombia right now publicly and privately from other countries in the hemisphere that have more influence than the United States does regionally, to. resist the temptation to be provoked by | and on the second point, can colombia take care of itself? also very, very hard to say. i think that there is a lot of pressure on colombia right now, publicly and privately from other countries in the hemisphere that have more influence than the united states does regionally to resist the temptation to be provoked by venezuela. |
Let's see, we get a caller in on the conversation. Diego(ph) is with us calling from Denver, Colorado. | let's see we get a caller in on the conversation diego(ph) is with us calling from denver | Let's see we get a caller in on the conversation Diego(ph) is with us calling from, Denver | let's see, we get a caller in on the conversation. diego(ph) is with us calling from denver, colorado. |
Hi. Thank you for having me on. | hi thank you for having me | Hi Thank you for having me | hi. thank you for having me on. |
Go ahead. | go | Go | go ahead. |
I love your show. | i love your. | I love your | i love your show. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
My comments were that - I was actually born in Colombia and moved here when I was about four years old. And I'm 42 now, and have been going back and forth, frequently to visit. My parents are there right now. And I have to say that for the first time in all these years, there's actually sense of pride, of progress, of decreased violence, and security in Colombia; and most of the Colombians that I speak to attribute that to the leadership of the current president, President Uribe. | my comments were that - i was actually born in colombia and moved here when i was about four years old. and. i'm 42 now and have been going back and forth frequently to visit my parents are, there right now and i have, to say that for the first time in all these years there's actually sense of pride of; progress of, decreased violence and security in colombia and most of the colombians that i speak; to attribute that to the leadership of the current president president | My. comments were that - I was, actually born in Colombia and moved here; when I was about four years, old And I'm 42 now and have been going back and forth frequently to visit My parents are there right now And I have to say that for the first time in all these years there's actually sense of pride; of progress of decreased violence and security in Colombia, and most of the Colombians that, I speak to attribute that to the leadership of the; current president President | my comments were that - i was actually born in colombia and moved here when i was about four years old. and i'm 42 now, and have been going back and forth, frequently to visit. my parents are there right now. and i have to say that for the first time in all these years, there's actually sense of pride, of progress, of decreased violence, and security in colombia; and most of the colombians that i speak to attribute that to the leadership of the current president, president uribe. |
And also wanted to note that about a month ago, there were worldwide peaceful demonstrations against the FARC because, frankly, I think Colombians are just fed up with years of this war that's just, frankly, terrorizes the whole country. | and also wanted to note that about, a month ago there were worldwide peaceful demonstrations. against the, farc because frankly i think colombians. are just fed up, with years of this war that's. just frankly terrorizes the whole | And also wanted to note that about a month. ago there were worldwide peaceful demonstrations against the, FARC because frankly I think Colombians are just fed up with years of this war that's just frankly terrorizes the whole | and also wanted to note that about a month ago, there were worldwide peaceful demonstrations against the farc because, frankly, i think colombians are just fed up with years of this war that's just, frankly, terrorizes the whole country. |
Mm-hmm. Also the, apparently, deteriorating conditions of Ingrid Betancourt, the former Colombian presidential candidate who's been held hostage by the FARC for many years now. | mm-hmm; also the apparently deteriorating conditions of ingrid betancourt the former colombian presidential candidate who's been held hostage by the farc for many years. | Mm-hmm Also the apparently, deteriorating conditions of Ingrid Betancourt the former Colombian presidential candidate who's been held hostage by. the FARC. for many years | mm-hmm. also the, apparently, deteriorating conditions of ingrid betancourt, the former colombian presidential candidate who's been held hostage by the farc for many years now. |
And I wonder, Julia Sweig, how do you think that this situation is going to affect popular support for both the FARC and for President Uribe in Colombia? | and i wonder julia sweig how do, you, think that this situation. is going to affect popular support for both the farc and for, president uribe in | And I wonder Julia Sweig how do you think that this situation. is going to affect popular support for both the FARC and for President Uribe in, | and i wonder, julia sweig, how do you think that this situation is going to affect popular support for both the farc and for president uribe in colombia? |
Well, I was just in Colombia two weeks ago and not only my presence, my visit there but just generally I would say there is no popular support for the FARC. And I think that this will boost or probably already has boosted Uribe's standing but the fact that he goes and takes the risk of going in and whacking the number two in this armed insurgency that as you say has kept hostage and been brutal to its hostages for many years - that will enhance his standing. | well i. was just in colombia two weeks ago and not only my presence my visit there but just generally i would say there is no popular support for the farc and i think, that this will boost or probably already has. boosted uribe's standing but, the. fact that he goes and takes the risk of going in and whacking the number two in this armed insurgency that as you say has kept hostage and been brutal to its. hostages for many years - that will enhance his | Well I. was just in Colombia two weeks ago and not only, my presence my visit there but just generally I would say there is no popular support for the FARC And I think; that this will. boost or probably already has boosted Uribe's standing but the fact, that he goes and takes the risk of going in and whacking the number two in this armed insurgency that as you say has kept hostage and been brutal to its hostages for. many years - that will enhance his | well, i was just in colombia two weeks ago and not only my presence, my visit there but just generally i would say there is no popular support for the farc. and i think that this will boost or probably already has boosted uribe's standing but the fact that he goes and takes the risk of going in and whacking the number two in this armed insurgency that as you say has kept hostage and been brutal to its hostages for many years - that will enhance his standing. |
The FARC has no popularity, the problem in Colombia. And as in all of the countries of the Andean region, is that historically, there has been no social contract, no institutions to withstand the temptations and the violence and the illegality of the drug trade. | the farc has no popularity the problem in colombia and as in all. of the countries of the andean region is that historically. there has been no social contract no institutions to withstand the temptations and the violence and the illegality of the drug | The FARC has no popularity the problem in Colombia And as in all of the countries of the Andean region is that historically there has been no social contract no institutions to withstand the temptations and the violence and the illegality of the drug | the farc has no popularity, the problem in colombia. and as in all of the countries of the andean region, is that historically, there has been no social contract, no institutions to withstand the temptations and the violence and the illegality of the drug trade. |
And so what we're seeing is the kind of - I could see why Gates would say Colombia could take care of itself - it's now gotten much stronger armed forces. But that doesn't mean that the sources of the violence that support the FARC, that support the paramilitaries have disappeared, but the caller's comment about the sense of progress is real and I think this will reinforce it. | and so what we're seeing is the kind of - i could see why gates would say colombia could take care of itself - it's now gotten much stronger armed forces but that doesn't mean that the sources of the violence that support the farc that support the paramilitaries have disappeared but the caller's. comment about the sense of progress is real and i think this will. reinforce. | And so what we're seeing is the. kind of - I could. see; why Gates would say Colombia could take care of itself - it's now, gotten much stronger armed, forces But that doesn't mean that. the sources, of the violence that support the FARC that; support the paramilitaries have disappeared but the caller's comment about the sense of progress is real and I think this will reinforce | and so what we're seeing is the kind of - i could see why gates would say colombia could take care of itself - it's now gotten much stronger armed forces. but that doesn't mean that the sources of the violence that support the farc, that support the paramilitaries have disappeared, but the caller's comment about the sense of progress is real and i think this will reinforce it. |
Julia Sweig, thanks very much for being with us today. | julia sweig thanks very much for being with us | Julia Sweig thanks very much for being with us | julia sweig, thanks very much for being with us today. |
Thanks for having me, Neal. | thanks for having me | Thanks for having me | thanks for having me, neal. |
Julia Sweig, senior fellow and director of Latin American Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations with us from a studio at the council here in Washington, D.C. | julia sweig senior fellow and, director of latin american studies; at the council on foreign relations with us from a studio at the council here in. washington | Julia Sweig senior fellow and director of Latin American Studies at. the Council on Foreign Relations with us, from a studio at the council here in Washington, | julia sweig, senior fellow and director of latin american studies at the council on foreign relations with us from a studio at the council here in washington, d.c. |
Michael Evans joins us now. He's director of the Colombia Documentation Project of the National Security Archives, and joins us here in Studio 3A. | michael. evans joins us now he's director of the colombia documentation project of the national security archives and joins us here in studio | Michael Evans joins us now He's director of, the Colombia Documentation Project of the National Security Archives and joins us here in Studio | michael evans joins us now. he's director of the colombia documentation project of the national security archives, and joins us here in studio 3a. |
Thanks very much for coming in today. | thanks very much for coming in | Thanks very much for coming in | thanks very much for coming in today. |
Thank you, Neal. | thank you | Thank. you | thank you, neal. |
And I wanted to ask you, Colombia retrieved documents from the FARC laptop and there's some fascinating information in there. | and i wanted to ask you colombia retrieved documents from the farc laptop and there's some fascinating information, in | And I wanted to ask you Colombia retrieved documents from the FARC laptop and. there's some fascinating information in | and i wanted to ask you, colombia retrieved documents from the farc laptop and there's some fascinating information in there. |
Yes, there is. What we've learned, we've learned only through the Colombian government but the recovery of the laptop has led to some pretty extraordinary accusations that the Venezuelan government under Chavez, President Hugo Chavez has formed a, quote/unquote, "armed alliance" with the FARC rebels in Colombia. In other words, that Venezuela is actively supporting a movement to topple the Colombian government. | yes there is what we've learned we've learned only through the colombian government but the recovery. of the laptop has, led to some pretty extraordinary accusations that the venezuelan government under, chavez president hugo chavez has. formed a quote/unquote "armed alliance" with the farc rebels. in colombia in other words that venezuela is actively supporting a movement; to, topple, the. colombian | Yes there is What we've learned we've learned only through, the Colombian. government but the recovery of the laptop has led to some pretty extraordinary accusations that the Venezuelan; government. under Chavez President Hugo Chavez has formed a quote/unquote "armed alliance" with the FARC rebels in Colombia In other, words that Venezuela is actively supporting a movement to. topple the Colombian | yes, there is. what we've learned, we've learned only through the colombian government but the recovery of the laptop has led to some pretty extraordinary accusations that the venezuelan government under chavez, president hugo chavez has formed a, quote/unquote, "armed alliance" with the farc rebels in colombia. in other words, that venezuela is actively supporting a movement to topple the colombian government. |
And also, of course, what she mentioned about the FARC's alleged efforts to acquire radioactive material to build a so-called dirty bomb. | and also of. course what she mentioned about the farc's alleged. efforts to acquire radioactive material to build a so-called dirty | And also of course what she mentioned about the FARC's alleged efforts. to acquire radioactive material to build a so-called dirty | and also, of course, what she mentioned about the farc's alleged efforts to acquire radioactive material to build a so-called dirty bomb. |
Though what apparently they meant to do with that is less than clear. The Colombian government asserts to detonate a dirty bomb either in Colombia or the - as I understand it, the interpretation could be that they were acquiring these material to sell it to the highest bidder. | though; what apparently they meant to do with that is less than clear. the colombian. government asserts to. detonate a. dirty bomb either in colombia or the - as i understand it the interpretation could, be that they were acquiring these material to sell it to the highest | Though. what apparently they meant to do with that is less than clear The Colombian government asserts to detonate a dirty bomb either in Colombia or the - as I understand it. the interpretation could be that they were acquiring these material. to. sell, it to the highest | though what apparently they meant to do with that is less than clear. the colombian government asserts to detonate a dirty bomb either in colombia or the - as i understand it, the interpretation could be that they were acquiring these material to sell it to the highest bidder. |
Yeah, it's not clear. The information was revealed by Vice President Francisco Santos at a U.N.-sponsored disarmament conference in Geneva. And it's important to remember that, so far, these are really just allegations. | yeah it's not clear the information, was revealed by vice president francisco. santos at a u.n.-sponsored disarmament conference in geneva, and it's important to remember, that so far these are really. just | Yeah it's not clear The information was revealed by Vice President Francisco Santos at a U.N.-sponsored disarmament conference in Geneva And it's, important to remember that so far, these are really just | yeah, it's not clear. the information was revealed by vice president francisco santos at a u.n.-sponsored disarmament conference in geneva. and it's important to remember that, so far, these are really just allegations. |
So there's no way to check and make sure that - let me put it this way, how much do you believe? | so there's no way to check. and make sure that - let me put it this way how much do you | So there's no way to check and make sure that - let me put it this way how much do you | so there's no way to check and make sure that - let me put it this way, how much do you believe? |
Well, I'm not really sure how much is believable at this point or whether I have a basis for making that judgment. What we know is - we don't really know exactly the significance of the information is. We don't know exactly who the FARC was talking to in Venezuela, for example. The communications that they did recover refer to someone named Angel, which could be Chavez. It could be somebody else in the Venezuelan government, but it's really not clear who that refers to. There's no indication that any money was actually ever delivered to the FARC. And the… | well i'm not really sure how much is believable at. this point or whether; i have a basis for making that judgment what we, know is, - we don't really know exactly, the significance of the information is we don't know exactly who the farc was talking to in venezuela. for, example the communications that they did recover refer to someone named angel which could be chavez it could be somebody else in the venezuelan government but it's really not; clear who that refers to there's no indication that any money, was actually, ever delivered to the. farc and | Well I'm not really sure how much is believable at this point or whether I have, a basis. for. making that judgment What we know is - we don't really know exactly the significance of the information is We don't. know exactly who the FARC was talking to in Venezuela. for example. The communications that they did recover refer, to someone named Angel which could be. Chavez It could be somebody else in the Venezuelan government but it's really not clear who that, refers, to There's no indication that any, money was actually ever delivered to the FARC And | well, i'm not really sure how much is believable at this point or whether i have a basis for making that judgment. what we know is - we don't really know exactly the significance of the information is. we don't know exactly who the farc was talking to in venezuela, for example. the communications that they did recover refer to someone named angel, which could be chavez. it could be somebody else in the venezuelan government, but it's really not clear who that refers to. there's no indication that any money was actually ever delivered to the farc. and the… |
Though there were questions about where you're going to store the dollars. | though there. were questions about where you're going to store the, | Though there were questions. about, where you're going to store the | though there were questions about where you're going to store the dollars. |
Yes, but as I recall from what I saw of this communications in - by January or February, there was still some question as to whether or not the money was coming. And the dirty bomb plot is probably the most vague of all the allegations, so far. Again, that was released by Vice President Francisco Santos, and he gives no indication even what country the FARC may have been trying to obtain the radioactive material from. But obviously if any of it proves to be true, it's a very, very significant turn of events in the region and an extremely negative development for the FARC which has suffered a series of political and military setbacks in recent months. | yes but as i. recall from what i saw of this communications in - by january or. february there was still, some question as to whether or not the, money was coming and the dirty. bomb plot is probably the. most vague of all the. allegations so far again that was released by vice president francisco santos and he gives no, indication; even what. country the farc may have been trying to obtain the radioactive material from but obviously. if any of it proves to be true it's a very very significant turn of events in the region and an. extremely negative development for the farc which has suffered a series of, political and military setbacks in, recent | Yes but as I recall from what I saw, of this communications in. - by January or February there was; still some question as to whether or. not the money was coming; And the dirty bomb plot is probably the most vague of all the allegations so far Again that was released by Vice President Francisco Santos and he, gives no, indication, even what, country the FARC, may have been trying. to. obtain the radioactive material from But obviously if any of it proves to be true it's a very very significant turn of events in the region and an extremely negative development for the FARC which has suffered a series of political and military setbacks in recent | yes, but as i recall from what i saw of this communications in - by january or february, there was still some question as to whether or not the money was coming. and the dirty bomb plot is probably the most vague of all the allegations, so far. again, that was released by vice president francisco santos, and he gives no indication even what country the farc may have been trying to obtain the radioactive material from. but obviously if any of it proves to be true, it's a very, very significant turn of events in the region and an extremely negative development for the farc which has suffered a series of political and military setbacks in recent months. |
And the Colombian government has no plans - or now has plans, I should say, to use the information found on the laptop to file charges against President Chavez in the International Criminal Court for supporting its armed insurgency, so it's all very significant regardless of whether or not, at this point, it's been verified, which of course remains to be seen. | and the colombian, government has no plans - or now has plans i should say to use the information. found, on the laptop to file. charges against president chavez in the international. criminal court for supporting; its armed insurgency so it's all very significant regardless of. whether or not at this point it's been verified which of course remains to be | And the Colombian government has no plans - or now has plans I should say to use the information found on the. laptop to file charges against, President Chavez in. the International Criminal Court for. supporting its armed insurgency so it's all very significant regardless of whether or not at this point, it's been verified which of, course remains to be | and the colombian government has no plans - or now has plans, i should say, to use the information found on the laptop to file charges against president chavez in the international criminal court for supporting its armed insurgency, so it's all very significant regardless of whether or not, at this point, it's been verified, which of course remains to be seen. |
We're talking with Michael Evans of the National Security Archive about the situation in northern part of central of South America. You're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | we're talking with michael. evans. of the national security archive about, the situation in northern part of central of south america you're listening to talk of the. nation; from npr | We're talking with Michael Evans of the National Security Archive about the situation in northern part. of central of South America You're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR | we're talking with michael evans of the national security archive about the situation in northern part of central of south america. you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. |
And the man, the number two leader of the FARC who was killed, a man named Raul Reyes, or I guess that was his pseudonym or nom de guerre, who was he? What role did he play? | and. the man. the number two; leader, of the farc who was killed a man named raul. reyes or i guess that. was his pseudonym or nom de guerre. who was he? what role did he | And the man the; number two leader of the FARC who was. killed a man named Raul Reyes or I guess that was his pseudonym or nom de guerre who was, he? What role did he | and the man, the number two leader of the farc who was killed, a man named raul reyes, or i guess that was his pseudonym or nom de guerre, who was he? what role did he play? |
Right. Raul Reyes was the, really the chief spokesperson in the FARC's seven-member secretariat, their, you know, political wing, and his death is really a huge blow to the FARC. He's the highest ranking FARC leader ever killed in the conflict. And he's, for many years, been the public face of the FARC and its meetings with government officials and international observers and… | right. raul reyes was the really the, chief spokesperson in. the, farc's seven-member secretariat their you, know political wing and his death is really a huge blow to the farc he's the highest ranking, farc leader ever killed in the conflict and he's for many years been the public face of the. farc and its meetings with government officials and international, observers | Right Raul Reyes was the really the chief spokesperson in the FARC's seven-member secretariat their you know political wing and his death is really a huge blow, to the FARC He's the highest ranking FARC leader ever killed in the. conflict And he's for many years been the. public face of the FARC and its meetings with government officials and international observers | right. raul reyes was the, really the chief spokesperson in the farc's seven-member secretariat, their, you know, political wing, and his death is really a huge blow to the farc. he's the highest ranking farc leader ever killed in the conflict. and he's, for many years, been the public face of the farc and its meetings with government officials and international observers and… |
And including, according to this laptop, meetings with the gringos, the United States. | and including according to this laptop meetings with the gringos the united | And including according to this laptop meetings with the gringos the United | and including, according to this laptop, meetings with the gringos, the united states. |
Absolutely. He was the FARC's chief negotiator in all the peace talks with the Colombian government and in that respect, he was at least, you know, at least symbolically, his death is a very significant setback for peace efforts to the extent that there were any with the FARC at this time. | absolutely he was, the farc's chief negotiator in all the peace talks with the colombian government and in that respect. he, was at least you know, at. least symbolically his; death. is, a, very significant setback for peace efforts to the extent that there, were any with the farc at this | Absolutely He was the, FARC's chief negotiator in all the peace talks with the Colombian government and in, that respect he was at least you know at. least symbolically his death is a very significant setback for peace, efforts to, the, extent that there were. any with the FARC at this | absolutely. he was the farc's chief negotiator in all the peace talks with the colombian government and in that respect, he was at least, you know, at least symbolically, his death is a very significant setback for peace efforts to the extent that there were any with the farc at this time. |
And also for the likelihood of - for movement on other issues including the release of FARC-held hostages some of whom have been languishing in FARC camps in the jungle for many years. | and also for the likelihood of - for movement. on other issues including the release of farc-held hostages some of whom have been languishing in farc camps in the jungle for many | And also for the, likelihood of - for movement. on; other issues including the release of FARC-held hostages some of whom have been languishing in FARC camps, in the. jungle for many | and also for the likelihood of - for movement on other issues including the release of farc-held hostages some of whom have been languishing in farc camps in the jungle for many years. |
Let's get a caller in. This is David(ph). David with us from Sand Springs in Oklahoma. | let's get a. caller in this is, david(ph). david with us from sand springs in | Let's get a; caller in This is David(ph). David, with us from Sand Springs in | let's get a caller in. this is david(ph). david with us from sand springs in oklahoma. |
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