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pythondev | help | but Martin is not saying there are such systems existing without any context | 2019-03-05T13:19:32.639300 | Jettie | pythondev_help_Jettie_2019-03-05T13:19:32.639300 | 1,551,791,972.6393 | 12,221 |
pythondev | help | he's saying you, as a developer of such systems, should also make such tools | 2019-03-05T13:19:56.639900 | Jettie | pythondev_help_Jettie_2019-03-05T13:19:56.639900 | 1,551,791,996.6399 | 12,222 |
pythondev | help | right. i'd love to see any existing approaches to solving these pain points, maybe to reuse, maybe to just understand the challenges better. | 2019-03-05T13:21:39.641100 | Rosamaria | pythondev_help_Rosamaria_2019-03-05T13:21:39.641100 | 1,551,792,099.6411 | 12,223 |
pythondev | help | i'd be willing to pay quite a bit for a great SaaS solution which takes care of these concerns | 2019-03-05T13:22:17.642100 | Rosamaria | pythondev_help_Rosamaria_2019-03-05T13:22:17.642100 | 1,551,792,137.6421 | 12,224 |
pythondev | help | I don't think having a generalized solution is even possible | 2019-03-05T13:22:51.642500 | Jettie | pythondev_help_Jettie_2019-03-05T13:22:51.642500 | 1,551,792,171.6425 | 12,225 |
pythondev | help | absolutely true. lets see what we can afford to de-generalize to make it possible. maybe i have to follow a particular schema of events. maybe i have to use a complimentary client library with an event broker. i will still have immense flexibility to to make all sorts of applications with that. | 2019-03-05T13:26:43.646300 | Rosamaria | pythondev_help_Rosamaria_2019-03-05T13:26:43.646300 | 1,551,792,403.6463 | 12,226 |
pythondev | help | Question:
I have a `class Account` and `class InsufficientFundsError(Exception)`. Both reside in the module `account.py`.
An instance of `Account` raises a `InsufficientFundsError` within a member method if a particular condition is met.
In my main module, I am importing: `from account import Account`. My code in the main method calls a method with an argument that raises the `InsufficientFundsError`.
And it works. Now my question: Why does it? I thought I would have to import the custom exception as well, but it works without it, too. | 2019-03-05T13:51:04.651200 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-05T13:51:04.651200 | 1,551,793,864.6512 | 12,227 |
pythondev | help | <@Dominga> Is the code path that triggers the `InssufficientFundsError` getting run/tested? Python won’t normally cause an error until it is encountered at runtime, at which point you will get a `NameError`. Another possibility is that you have the code path wrapped in a greedy except (such as `except: ...` or `except Exception: ...`) | 2019-03-05T13:57:19.654300 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-05T13:57:19.654300 | 1,551,794,239.6543 | 12,228 |
pythondev | help | <@Clemmie> Thanks for the reply, and sorry for my late response.
It is being run and works as expected. I am using:
```
try:
# something
except InsufficientFundsError:
# something
```
The error is raised by the account class in the account module and not within my code of the main module. Maybe that’s why? I am not importing the entire module, but just the class though. Which is why I am confused. | 2019-03-05T14:24:04.658400 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-05T14:24:04.658400 | 1,551,795,844.6584 | 12,229 |
pythondev | help | So the snippet above is in your main module? Have you tested it to so that the error is actually raised by the account? If not then that `except` is not reached at runtime, and the `NameError` will not occur | 2019-03-05T14:26:05.660000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-05T14:26:05.660000 | 1,551,795,965.66 | 12,230 |
pythondev | help | put another way, run some code that will make `Account` raise that error in the main module, and then see if it still works | 2019-03-05T14:26:46.660700 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-05T14:26:46.660700 | 1,551,796,006.6607 | 12,231 |
pythondev | help | I’ve expressed myself unclear. Let me rephrase:
The exception is encountered at runtime and handled properly. The handler is in the account class. The main module just calls a void method of the account class. If as a result of this method, the account’s attribute would be set below 0, the InsufficientFundsError is raised within the account class, by the account class.
actual snippet (excluding docstrings for brevity:
```
class Account(...)
...
def withdraw(self, amount):
amount = abs(amount)
new_balance = self.get_balance() - amount
try:
self.set_balance(new_balance)
except InsufficientFundsError:
print(f"Insufficient funds. The amount of ${amount:,.2f} was not withdrawn.")
else:
print(f"The amount of ${amount:,.2f} was withdrawn successfully.\n")
# method that raises the exception
def set_balance(self, balance):
if not isinstance(balance, (int, float)):
raise ValueError("The balance needs to be either an int or a float.")
elif balance < 0:
raise InsufficientFundsError("An account can't have a negative balance.")
else:
self.__balance = balance
``` | 2019-03-05T14:35:55.666500 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-05T14:35:55.666500 | 1,551,796,555.6665 | 12,232 |
pythondev | help | so you're saying the instance of the class raised the exception inside itself, and then caught it inside itself | 2019-03-05T14:38:39.668900 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-05T14:38:39.668900 | 1,551,796,719.6689 | 12,233 |
pythondev | help | So the class `InsufficientFundsError` itself never shows up in the main module, correct? That means the python import stack is working correctly. You only have to import classes that you explicitly use, in this case you are importing `Account`, which correctly (itself) handles the import/reference to `InsufficientFundsError` | 2019-03-05T14:39:16.669600 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-05T14:39:16.669600 | 1,551,796,756.6696 | 12,234 |
pythondev | help | Are there any good open source python frameworks that I can ease myself into? | 2019-03-05T15:07:19.670200 | Earleen | pythondev_help_Earleen_2019-03-05T15:07:19.670200 | 1,551,798,439.6702 | 12,235 |
pythondev | help | Maybe smaller libraries | 2019-03-05T15:08:02.670700 | Earleen | pythondev_help_Earleen_2019-03-05T15:08:02.670700 | 1,551,798,482.6707 | 12,236 |
pythondev | help | Do you mean to use, or contribute to? | 2019-03-05T15:08:16.671100 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-05T15:08:16.671100 | 1,551,798,496.6711 | 12,237 |
pythondev | help | in terms of making contributions | 2019-03-05T15:08:18.671300 | Earleen | pythondev_help_Earleen_2019-03-05T15:08:18.671300 | 1,551,798,498.6713 | 12,238 |
pythondev | help | also, what are your preferred domains (web, data, graphics, games……) | 2019-03-05T15:08:39.671700 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-05T15:08:39.671700 | 1,551,798,519.6717 | 12,239 |
pythondev | help | I enjoy backend, algorithms | 2019-03-05T15:10:15.672200 | Earleen | pythondev_help_Earleen_2019-03-05T15:10:15.672200 | 1,551,798,615.6722 | 12,240 |
pythondev | help | Organizing code, documentation | 2019-03-05T15:10:38.672600 | Earleen | pythondev_help_Earleen_2019-03-05T15:10:38.672600 | 1,551,798,638.6726 | 12,241 |
pythondev | help | Usually the best is a library that you have used and have some sense of | 2019-03-05T15:13:53.673100 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-05T15:13:53.673100 | 1,551,798,833.6731 | 12,242 |
pythondev | help | There are tens of thousands of smaller python libraries, it would be hard to just suggest one out of thin air | 2019-03-05T15:14:46.674100 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-05T15:14:46.674100 | 1,551,798,886.6741 | 12,243 |
pythondev | help | I know `selenium` is pretty popular, but has a huge need for python documentation | 2019-03-05T15:23:13.674700 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-05T15:23:13.674700 | 1,551,799,393.6747 | 12,244 |
pythondev | help | Hey everyone, is there a way to get pip to send a flag to a module's setup.py? | 2019-03-05T15:26:33.675400 | Almeda | pythondev_help_Almeda_2019-03-05T15:26:33.675400 | 1,551,799,593.6754 | 12,245 |
pythondev | help | I have a similar issue where I'd like to install some, but not all, dependencies in develop mode. Is there an easy way to do it within setuptools or pip? | 2019-03-05T15:29:18.676200 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T15:29:18.676200 | 1,551,799,758.6762 | 12,246 |
pythondev | help | Are you using something like pip install -r requirements.txt to build out the environment? | 2019-03-05T15:30:44.677100 | Almeda | pythondev_help_Almeda_2019-03-05T15:30:44.677100 | 1,551,799,844.6771 | 12,247 |
pythondev | help | right now I am, but I'd like to move the dependencies into setup.py for a proper package | 2019-03-05T15:31:41.677800 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T15:31:41.677800 | 1,551,799,901.6778 | 12,248 |
pythondev | help | <@Clemmie> Thank you very much. That was helpful. | 2019-03-05T15:33:26.678200 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-05T15:33:26.678200 | 1,551,800,006.6782 | 12,249 |
pythondev | help | For the requirements-driven method, you can reference another requirements file by putting the -r <some other file> right in the .txt file, and split them out into "full" and "development" requirements. More on that at <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36744143/how-can-i-define-multiple-requirement-files> I'm less sure about doing it through setup.py. | 2019-03-05T15:35:17.680900 | Almeda | pythondev_help_Almeda_2019-03-05T15:35:17.680900 | 1,551,800,117.6809 | 12,250 |
pythondev | help | Brett Cannon does some trickery with the dependencies in setup.py here <https://snarky.ca/clarifying-pep-518/> , and I thought I could somehow extend this idea. Have a list of the "internal" packages that I might need to hack on and install them in develop mode. | 2019-03-05T15:35:18.681100 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T15:35:18.681100 | 1,551,800,118.6811 | 12,251 |
pythondev | help | If you don't mind me asking, what's the use case? Usually you're trying to go the other way around, where your dev environment has more packages than you want distributed. | 2019-03-05T15:38:04.682000 | Almeda | pythondev_help_Almeda_2019-03-05T15:38:04.682000 | 1,551,800,284.682 | 12,252 |
pythondev | help | team harmony :wink: | 2019-03-05T16:04:17.682600 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T16:04:17.682600 | 1,551,801,857.6826 | 12,253 |
pythondev | help | The idea is that we have a variety of internal packages that serve as libraries for a project. Sometimes a dev wants to be able to fiddle with one of the underlying libraries, as you would in develop mode. | 2019-03-05T16:06:58.685100 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T16:06:58.685100 | 1,551,802,018.6851 | 12,254 |
pythondev | help | the team harmony part is finding a single way of defining the dependencies that serves 1) the guy who doesn't care about the supporting libs, wants to treat them like blessed versions and is ok waiting 15 mins to pull in a new build, and 2) the gal who manually fiddles with PYTHONPATH for "control" because they need may need to work on all 15 libraries | 2019-03-05T16:11:18.688200 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T16:11:18.688200 | 1,551,802,278.6882 | 12,255 |
pythondev | help | Just looked at a neat walkthrough here: <https://realpython.com/modern-web-automation-with-python-and-selenium/> | 2019-03-05T16:13:01.689000 | Rosemarie | pythondev_help_Rosemarie_2019-03-05T16:13:01.689000 | 1,551,802,381.689 | 12,256 |
pythondev | help | doing `-e` in requirements.txt files gets close, but I think it would be ideal to specify things in `setup.py` and have a flag for dev power install for user 2 vs package install for user 1 | 2019-03-05T16:13:32.690200 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T16:13:32.690200 | 1,551,802,412.6902 | 12,257 |
pythondev | help | interesting writeup, although selenium is more of a test automation tool, as it's meant to emulate user interaction. It's not a very good scraping tool. | 2019-03-05T16:23:40.690500 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-05T16:23:40.690500 | 1,551,803,020.6905 | 12,258 |
pythondev | help | <@Hildegard> Why not just host a private PyPI server? | 2019-03-05T16:24:46.691100 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-05T16:24:46.691100 | 1,551,803,086.6911 | 12,259 |
pythondev | help | oh sorry, misread | 2019-03-05T16:25:43.691300 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-05T16:25:43.691300 | 1,551,803,143.6913 | 12,260 |
pythondev | help | nevermind | 2019-03-05T16:25:45.691500 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-05T16:25:45.691500 | 1,551,803,145.6915 | 12,261 |
pythondev | help | but if you want to go that route, you should probably split things into separate pacakges | 2019-03-05T16:26:52.692000 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-05T16:26:52.692000 | 1,551,803,212.692 | 12,262 |
pythondev | help | each with their own dependencies | 2019-03-05T16:27:01.692300 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-05T16:27:01.692300 | 1,551,803,221.6923 | 12,263 |
pythondev | help | I see that the Pillow project (only picking on them because I'm neck-deep in their source anyway) uses setup.py for its distribution, but a separate requirements.txt for its development, and its requirements.txt uses -e flags for local modules. | 2019-03-05T16:33:28.695300 | Almeda | pythondev_help_Almeda_2019-03-05T16:33:28.695300 | 1,551,803,608.6953 | 12,264 |
pythondev | help | :+1::skin-tone-2: | 2019-03-05T16:33:36.695400 | Rosemarie | pythondev_help_Rosemarie_2019-03-05T16:33:36.695400 | 1,551,803,616.6954 | 12,265 |
pythondev | help | So your power user would just have to run pip install on the requirements file | 2019-03-05T16:34:25.696200 | Almeda | pythondev_help_Almeda_2019-03-05T16:34:25.696200 | 1,551,803,665.6962 | 12,266 |
pythondev | help | is it common to convert result of `map` `filter` to list in order to call `len` on it? | 2019-03-05T16:39:05.697500 | Lanny | pythondev_help_Lanny_2019-03-05T16:39:05.697500 | 1,551,803,945.6975 | 12,267 |
pythondev | help | Yes! Generally it's only a good idea if know it will be relatively small. | 2019-03-05T16:43:56.697900 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-05T16:43:56.697900 | 1,551,804,236.6979 | 12,268 |
pythondev | help | Otherwise you risk really using a lot of CPU and memory just to get a `len` call. | 2019-03-05T16:44:23.698100 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-05T16:44:23.698100 | 1,551,804,263.6981 | 12,269 |
pythondev | help | So the below class, when doing something like this:
```
revl_vpc = RELV_VPC(t, cluster_name, params)
print(type(revl_vpc.subnets))
print(type(revl_vpc.private_subnets))
print(type(revl_vpc.public_subnets))
print(type(revl_vpc.private_subnets + revl_vpc.public_subnets))
```
why is it that for the `revl_vpc.subnets` it prints a `class 'method'` while the others print `list` (which is what I want). | 2019-03-05T16:46:01.698300 | Carlota | pythondev_help_Carlota_2019-03-05T16:46:01.698300 | 1,551,804,361.6983 | 12,270 |
pythondev | help | You're making a direct reference to the subnets method. Try .subnets() or putting the @property decorator just above def subnets. | 2019-03-05T16:47:43.698700 | Almeda | pythondev_help_Almeda_2019-03-05T16:47:43.698700 | 1,551,804,463.6987 | 12,271 |
pythondev | help | gotcha! | 2019-03-05T16:47:58.698900 | Carlota | pythondev_help_Carlota_2019-03-05T16:47:58.698900 | 1,551,804,478.6989 | 12,272 |
pythondev | help | thanks. | 2019-03-05T17:19:58.699400 | Lanny | pythondev_help_Lanny_2019-03-05T17:19:58.699400 | 1,551,806,398.6994 | 12,273 |
pythondev | help | Hi all. I am trying to import twitter in order to call the rest API, but when I am running the script I am getting this error: | 2019-03-05T17:32:24.700700 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:32:24.700700 | 1,551,807,144.7007 | 12,274 |
pythondev | help | ```import twitter
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'twitter'``` | 2019-03-05T17:32:27.700900 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:32:27.700900 | 1,551,807,147.7009 | 12,275 |
pythondev | help | I tried to `pip3 uninstall twitter` and install from the source | 2019-03-05T17:32:55.701500 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:32:55.701500 | 1,551,807,175.7015 | 12,276 |
pythondev | help | by downloading the tar.gz | 2019-03-05T17:33:04.701800 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:33:04.701800 | 1,551,807,184.7018 | 12,277 |
pythondev | help | but still get the same error | 2019-03-05T17:33:10.702000 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:33:10.702000 | 1,551,807,190.702 | 12,278 |
pythondev | help | any thoughts? | 2019-03-05T17:33:19.702300 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:33:19.702300 | 1,551,807,199.7023 | 12,279 |
pythondev | help | does 'from twitter import *' work? | 2019-03-05T17:37:28.702900 | Deon | pythondev_help_Deon_2019-03-05T17:37:28.702900 | 1,551,807,448.7029 | 12,280 |
pythondev | help | assuming it installed correctly my first guess would be that its' not on your path | 2019-03-05T17:48:54.703600 | Joette | pythondev_help_Joette_2019-03-05T17:48:54.703600 | 1,551,808,134.7036 | 12,281 |
pythondev | help | how are you executing your script? `python3 some_script.py`? | 2019-03-05T17:49:34.704500 | Joette | pythondev_help_Joette_2019-03-05T17:49:34.704500 | 1,551,808,174.7045 | 12,282 |
pythondev | help | <@Deon> doesnt work | 2019-03-05T17:55:56.704800 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:55:56.704800 | 1,551,808,556.7048 | 12,283 |
pythondev | help | <@Joette>./some_script.py | 2019-03-05T17:56:20.705200 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:56:20.705200 | 1,551,808,580.7052 | 12,284 |
pythondev | help | its friking `python2 some_script.py` | 2019-03-05T17:57:19.706400 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:57:19.706400 | 1,551,808,639.7064 | 12,285 |
pythondev | help | its working now | 2019-03-05T17:57:25.706800 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:57:25.706800 | 1,551,808,645.7068 | 12,286 |
pythondev | help | thought so | 2019-03-05T17:57:27.707000 | Joette | pythondev_help_Joette_2019-03-05T17:57:27.707000 | 1,551,808,647.707 | 12,287 |
pythondev | help | thanks for the impulse guys | 2019-03-05T17:57:35.707200 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:57:35.707200 | 1,551,808,655.7072 | 12,288 |
pythondev | help | much appreciated | 2019-03-05T17:57:45.707600 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:57:45.707600 | 1,551,808,665.7076 | 12,289 |
pythondev | help | enjoy your evening of Twitter API'ing | 2019-03-05T17:57:51.707800 | Joette | pythondev_help_Joette_2019-03-05T17:57:51.707800 | 1,551,808,671.7078 | 12,290 |
pythondev | help | thx | 2019-03-05T17:57:58.708000 | Susie | pythondev_help_Susie_2019-03-05T17:57:58.708000 | 1,551,808,678.708 | 12,291 |
pythondev | help | Hi, everyone - I have a regex pattern that looks for SQL tables following a from|into|join, but I am having a hard time with the space between the keyword and the table name.
Is there anyway to capture the `\s` before the table name, but not include it?
my example: <https://regex101.com/r/In747J/2> | 2019-03-05T18:28:37.710500 | Shirley | pythondev_help_Shirley_2019-03-05T18:28:37.710500 | 1,551,810,517.7105 | 12,292 |
pythondev | help | sounds like you want a capture group, put the table name part in parens | 2019-03-05T18:30:44.711200 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T18:30:44.711200 | 1,551,810,644.7112 | 12,293 |
pythondev | help | or put the space in the lookbehind and wrap the keyword options in a non-capturing group `(?: ... )`. | 2019-03-05T18:33:54.712400 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T18:33:54.712400 | 1,551,810,834.7124 | 12,294 |
pythondev | help | I tried the lookbehind, but it complains that lookbehinds need to be a fixed width | 2019-03-05T18:38:00.712800 | Shirley | pythondev_help_Shirley_2019-03-05T18:38:00.712800 | 1,551,811,080.7128 | 12,295 |
pythondev | help | and it is hard to account for the table pattern as it can be a varying mix of `db.shcema.table`, `shcema.table`, `#table`, etc. | 2019-03-05T18:39:46.713800 | Shirley | pythondev_help_Shirley_2019-03-05T18:39:46.713800 | 1,551,811,186.7138 | 12,296 |
pythondev | help | ah right, <@Shirley>, so capture the table name in a capture group `(<tablename_regex>)`. depending on how full strength you want this to be, you might end up needing a real parser. i give up on regexes if the syntax is detailed and i need something really robust. | 2019-03-05T18:56:26.716000 | Hildegard | pythondev_help_Hildegard_2019-03-05T18:56:26.716000 | 1,551,812,186.716 | 12,297 |
pythondev | help | yeah, I might leave it as is and just `.strip()` it after words | 2019-03-05T18:58:47.716400 | Shirley | pythondev_help_Shirley_2019-03-05T18:58:47.716400 | 1,551,812,327.7164 | 12,298 |
pythondev | help | Still not sure the difference between 'docstrings' and 'comments' ? | 2019-03-05T19:45:16.717600 | Clayton | pythondev_help_Clayton_2019-03-05T19:45:16.717600 | 1,551,815,116.7176 | 12,299 |
pythondev | help | Keep getting the following error: `TypeError: can only concatenate str (not "ImportValue") to str`. Not sure how I can insert the `eks_cluster_name`. | 2019-03-05T19:47:21.717800 | Carlota | pythondev_help_Carlota_2019-03-05T19:47:21.717800 | 1,551,815,241.7178 | 12,300 |
pythondev | help | <@Clayton> A docstring is a Python literal quoted string in a specific position, like the start of a function, which is available to the software at runtime for help commands, etc. A comment, using `#`, can be sprinkled anywhere in the code, but it's invisible except to a human reading those lines. So the former is usually used for documentation, and the latter for notes to developers maintaining the app. | 2019-03-05T19:52:40.720800 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-05T19:52:40.720800 | 1,551,815,560.7208 | 12,301 |
pythondev | help | is it like logging ? | 2019-03-05T19:53:07.721100 | Clayton | pythondev_help_Clayton_2019-03-05T19:53:07.721100 | 1,551,815,587.7211 | 12,302 |
pythondev | help | No, it's just fixed text, embedded in the program. Logging would be dynamic output. | 2019-03-05T19:55:05.722000 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-05T19:55:05.722000 | 1,551,815,705.722 | 12,303 |
pythondev | help | isnt the stack trace enough for troubleshooting errors ? | 2019-03-05T19:55:45.722600 | Clayton | pythondev_help_Clayton_2019-03-05T19:55:45.722600 | 1,551,815,745.7226 | 12,304 |
pythondev | help | Well, that will tell you where an error was encountered, but not what the code was doing or why. Compare `x += (len(data) + 9) // 10` with `x += (len(data) + 9) // 10 # Split rows into batches of 10, rounded up`. | 2019-03-05T19:59:20.724900 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-05T19:59:20.724900 | 1,551,815,960.7249 | 12,305 |
pythondev | help | like a debugger output ? | 2019-03-05T20:00:12.725300 | Clayton | pythondev_help_Clayton_2019-03-05T20:00:12.725300 | 1,551,816,012.7253 | 12,306 |
pythondev | help | No, it's just a note from the programmer explaining what they were thinking, etc. or clarifying something which works but might be confusing to understand how it works. | 2019-03-05T20:01:00.726200 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-05T20:01:00.726200 | 1,551,816,060.7262 | 12,307 |
pythondev | help | comment = what the code does , docstring = why it it does what it does | 2019-03-05T20:01:49.727000 | Clayton | pythondev_help_Clayton_2019-03-05T20:01:49.727000 | 1,551,816,109.727 | 12,308 |
pythondev | help | It's more like docstring = what this function does, why you might want to call it, and what the parameters mean. Comment = how the function was implemented, in case you need to change how it works. | 2019-03-05T20:08:49.728500 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-05T20:08:49.728500 | 1,551,816,529.7285 | 12,309 |
pythondev | help | Ive been reading about it and i still dont see anything that really elevates it above comments | 2019-03-05T20:18:32.729800 | Clayton | pythondev_help_Clayton_2019-03-05T20:18:32.729800 | 1,551,817,112.7298 | 12,310 |
pythondev | help | The main difference is that it's accessible at runtime through `__doc__`, and is a standard place to look for documentation. | 2019-03-05T20:24:58.730800 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-05T20:24:58.730800 | 1,551,817,498.7308 | 12,311 |
pythondev | help | i saw that, you access it through the ipyhon / interactive prompt. why not just look at the script to see the docstrings. just dont get really get it | 2019-03-05T20:34:33.732000 | Clayton | pythondev_help_Clayton_2019-03-05T20:34:33.732000 | 1,551,818,073.732 | 12,312 |
pythondev | help | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 2019-03-05T20:35:55.732400 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-05T20:35:55.732400 | 1,551,818,155.7324 | 12,313 |
pythondev | help | Consider documentation builders like Sphinx | 2019-03-05T20:39:10.733400 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-05T20:39:10.733400 | 1,551,818,350.7334 | 12,314 |
pythondev | help | >>> Docstrings versus Block comments
These aren’t interchangeable. For a function or class, the leading comment block is a programmer’s note. The docstring describes the operation of the function or class | 2019-03-05T20:41:30.733700 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-05T20:41:30.733700 | 1,551,818,490.7337 | 12,315 |
pythondev | help | <https://docs.python-guide.org/writing/documentation/> | 2019-03-05T20:41:48.733900 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-05T20:41:48.733900 | 1,551,818,508.7339 | 12,316 |
pythondev | help | <@Clayton> :point_up: | 2019-03-05T20:42:14.734200 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-05T20:42:14.734200 | 1,551,818,534.7342 | 12,317 |
pythondev | help | Thanks, <@Hiroko>. I hadn't run across Doctest before... that's a cute hack. | 2019-03-05T20:45:54.734700 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-05T20:45:54.734700 | 1,551,818,754.7347 | 12,318 |
pythondev | help | The access to docstrings also makes it so ide can easily show you docs of functions you're calling. The fact that it's part of the language means the tooling can all work with it. The comments are not as easily accessible programmatically | 2019-03-05T20:54:11.736600 | Bethany | pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-03-05T20:54:11.736600 | 1,551,819,251.7366 | 12,319 |
pythondev | help | Other languages don't all have a standard like this. It's big QoL improvement | 2019-03-05T20:55:05.737300 | Bethany | pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-03-05T20:55:05.737300 | 1,551,819,305.7373 | 12,320 |
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