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pythondev | help | compare how? filenames, file contents, modified dates, all the same, subset/superset? | 2019-03-06T14:10:57.818700 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-06T14:10:57.818700 | 1,551,881,457.8187 | 12,421 |
pythondev | help | yes that is my other question as well | 2019-03-06T14:11:08.819000 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T14:11:08.819000 | 1,551,881,468.819 | 12,422 |
pythondev | help | and what is the use case - it is an odd sounding need | 2019-03-06T14:11:34.819600 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-06T14:11:34.819600 | 1,551,881,494.8196 | 12,423 |
pythondev | help | Like strcmp? | 2019-03-06T14:55:13.821400 | Nieves | pythondev_help_Nieves_2019-03-06T14:55:13.821400 | 1,551,884,113.8214 | 12,424 |
pythondev | help | See if they’re the same or different regarding the name? | 2019-03-06T14:55:44.821900 | Nieves | pythondev_help_Nieves_2019-03-06T14:55:44.821900 | 1,551,884,144.8219 | 12,425 |
pythondev | help | in the mac application folder i have bunch of apps that are authorised to be in the folder and what i want to figure out if the user add other apps "not authorised " | 2019-03-06T14:57:40.822100 | Carin | pythondev_help_Carin_2019-03-06T14:57:40.822100 | 1,551,884,260.8221 | 12,426 |
pythondev | help | thank you | 2019-03-06T14:57:46.822300 | Carin | pythondev_help_Carin_2019-03-06T14:57:46.822300 | 1,551,884,266.8223 | 12,427 |
pythondev | help | Something like <https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.listdir> is probably where you'd start | 2019-03-06T14:59:49.822600 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T14:59:49.822600 | 1,551,884,389.8226 | 12,428 |
pythondev | help | then there's a bunch of path tools in <https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.path.html> but I vaguely recall there being some controversy over the *correct* path lib to use? | 2019-03-06T15:01:47.823500 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T15:01:47.823500 | 1,551,884,507.8235 | 12,429 |
pythondev | help | i'd say that approach is rather futile effort .. Applications in mac (just like any os really) can be anywhere.. | 2019-03-06T15:03:00.824400 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-06T15:03:00.824400 | 1,551,884,580.8244 | 12,430 |
pythondev | help | but that wasnt the answer to the question so 'scuse me :smiley: | 2019-03-06T15:03:54.825300 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-06T15:03:54.825300 | 1,551,884,634.8253 | 12,431 |
pythondev | help | I agree <@Eric>. If users are not supposed to be able to install applications, then they shouldn’t have administrator access on the machine. If they do, then the script will be trivially simple to evade | 2019-03-06T15:15:47.826700 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-06T15:15:47.826700 | 1,551,885,347.8267 | 12,432 |
pythondev | help | thank you <@Clemmie> <@Jenice> <@Eric> for taking time to check my problem :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-03-06T16:17:10.828200 | Carin | pythondev_help_Carin_2019-03-06T16:17:10.828200 | 1,551,889,030.8282 | 12,433 |
pythondev | help | i just wanna be able to compare the application folder apps list with a a file that contains my list | 2019-03-06T16:26:26.829600 | Carin | pythondev_help_Carin_2019-03-06T16:26:26.829600 | 1,551,889,586.8296 | 12,434 |
pythondev | help | start by splitting your problem into smaller chunks like "how would i store the list of acceptable directories". Then "how would i populate the list of current directories" and then "how would i compare these two" .. essentilly what you are asking is "how can i get a diff of two arrays". | 2019-03-06T17:13:50.832200 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-06T17:13:50.832200 | 1,551,892,430.8322 | 12,435 |
pythondev | help | and when you have some sort of idea, or not having any idea about those, you get to better questions that people actually can answer without writing things for free for you. | 2019-03-06T17:17:36.833600 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-06T17:17:36.833600 | 1,551,892,656.8336 | 12,436 |
pythondev | help | I'm trying to understand what is going wrong with my script. I'm writing a StackStorm pack, which is a python based package that uses virtualenv. Is it ok to post traceback here? | 2019-03-06T18:52:00.835300 | Elna | pythondev_help_Elna_2019-03-06T18:52:00.835300 | 1,551,898,320.8353 | 12,437 |
pythondev | help | None | 2019-03-06T18:52:45.835400 | Elna | pythondev_help_Elna_2019-03-06T18:52:45.835400 | 1,551,898,365.8354 | 12,438 |
pythondev | help | Does this tell you guys anything or is this output insufficient to tell what is going wrong? | 2019-03-06T18:53:22.836100 | Elna | pythondev_help_Elna_2019-03-06T18:53:22.836100 | 1,551,898,402.8361 | 12,439 |
pythondev | help | Hey, is there alway in beautifulsoup to find element using Xpath | 2019-03-06T18:58:57.836600 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-06T18:58:57.836600 | 1,551,898,737.8366 | 12,440 |
pythondev | help | not as of a year or so ago: <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11465555/can-we-use-xpath-with-beautiful> | 2019-03-06T19:02:10.837400 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T19:02:10.837400 | 1,551,898,930.8374 | 12,441 |
pythondev | help | the BS author says no in that thread | 2019-03-06T19:02:24.838100 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T19:02:24.838100 | 1,551,898,944.8381 | 12,442 |
pythondev | help | but lxml might work | 2019-03-06T19:02:34.838400 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T19:02:34.838400 | 1,551,898,954.8384 | 12,443 |
pythondev | help | <@Elna> Looks like you've got a mix of Python 3.6 and 2.7 libraries going on, though I couldn't tell you how to fix it. | 2019-03-06T19:02:54.838900 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-06T19:02:54.838900 | 1,551,898,974.8389 | 12,444 |
pythondev | help | <@Jenice> hey, do you have experience with selenium? if so, then do you think I should use lxml to speed up the finding elements | 2019-03-06T19:08:57.842800 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-06T19:08:57.842800 | 1,551,899,337.8428 | 12,445 |
pythondev | help | oh hrm. I've only used it for integration tests to run against a beta website stack. I've never done much to optimize element search with it. Is that a noticeable bottleneck for you? | 2019-03-06T19:16:52.844100 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T19:16:52.844100 | 1,551,899,812.8441 | 12,446 |
pythondev | help | <@Jenice> No, I just making web scraper program and I try to speed it up little | 2019-03-06T19:19:54.846800 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-06T19:19:54.846800 | 1,551,899,994.8468 | 12,447 |
pythondev | help | aha. In my (limited) experience with that kind of application, I didn't lose that much time to document searching compared to the network call side. I know lxml had a reputation for being faster than BS's default document engine when I was doing that 5 years ago but I don't know what the state of the art is. If you're noticing particularly slow element finding it might be worth switching out and benchmarking | 2019-03-06T19:22:22.849200 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T19:22:22.849200 | 1,551,900,142.8492 | 12,448 |
pythondev | help | Also consider that selenium is a headless browser, so factor in the rendering time too | 2019-03-06T19:23:10.850300 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-06T19:23:10.850300 | 1,551,900,190.8503 | 12,449 |
pythondev | help | Also, this sounds to me like premature optimization | 2019-03-06T19:23:32.851100 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-06T19:23:32.851100 | 1,551,900,212.8511 | 12,450 |
pythondev | help | What do you mean | 2019-03-06T19:23:51.851900 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-06T19:23:51.851900 | 1,551,900,231.8519 | 12,451 |
pythondev | help | ah yeah. I was using requests or something similar so I did not encounter that aspect | 2019-03-06T19:23:56.852200 | Jenice | pythondev_help_Jenice_2019-03-06T19:23:56.852200 | 1,551,900,236.8522 | 12,452 |
pythondev | help | If all you’re looking for is speedups, without knowing your bottlenecks, anything you do is guesswork | 2019-03-06T19:24:46.853600 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-06T19:24:46.853600 | 1,551,900,286.8536 | 12,453 |
pythondev | help | Measure and find your bottlenecks before you spend time optimizing | 2019-03-06T19:25:18.854700 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-06T19:25:18.854700 | 1,551,900,318.8547 | 12,454 |
pythondev | help | And spend time optimizing the parts with the biggest return | 2019-03-06T19:25:45.855900 | Hiroko | pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-03-06T19:25:45.855900 | 1,551,900,345.8559 | 12,455 |
pythondev | help | Yeah, I see your point | 2019-03-06T19:26:02.856600 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-06T19:26:02.856600 | 1,551,900,362.8566 | 12,456 |
pythondev | help | hello, I am looking to build a basic web app which allows a user to upload two reports, the app will compare the two behind the scenes (per my parameters) and then it will provide a new report with correlations between the two reports. I am looking to use Flask for this. This will be my first solo Flask project, was wondering if there are any libraries or tools anyone could recommend to assist me. | 2019-03-06T19:43:17.859500 | Janella | pythondev_help_Janella_2019-03-06T19:43:17.859500 | 1,551,901,397.8595 | 12,457 |
pythondev | help | I'm also entertaining the idea of using React with Flask so my app can be more interactive, but that may be something to add in after the basic app is built | 2019-03-06T19:43:59.860400 | Janella | pythondev_help_Janella_2019-03-06T19:43:59.860400 | 1,551,901,439.8604 | 12,458 |
pythondev | help | Might want to try <#C0LN2AD7T|flask> if you don't get replies | 2019-03-06T22:37:14.864200 | Cori | pythondev_help_Cori_2019-03-06T22:37:14.864200 | 1,551,911,834.8642 | 12,459 |
pythondev | help | How would I make a new TOTAL after the while loop completes it goes back to 13 | 2019-03-06T22:39:58.864800 | Edward | pythondev_help_Edward_2019-03-06T22:39:58.864800 | 1,551,911,998.8648 | 12,460 |
pythondev | help | Total = 13
MinusOne = -1
MinusTwo = -2
MinusThree = -3
while True:
Option = input("Would You Like One, Two, Three")
if Option == "One":
print(Total + MinusOne)
elif Option == "Two":
print(Total + MinusTwo)
elif Option == "Three":
print(Total + MinusThree)
break | 2019-03-06T22:40:00.865000 | Edward | pythondev_help_Edward_2019-03-06T22:40:00.865000 | 1,551,912,000.865 | 12,461 |
pythondev | help | You're only printing the sums, rather than updating `Total`. You would need logic like `Total = Total + MinusOne`, etc. | 2019-03-06T22:42:40.865600 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-06T22:42:40.865600 | 1,551,912,160.8656 | 12,462 |
pythondev | help | Does anyone know why I'm getting this error ```ConnectionResetError: [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host```? | 2019-03-07T01:07:28.867000 | Natosha | pythondev_help_Natosha_2019-03-07T01:07:28.867000 | 1,551,920,848.867 | 12,463 |
pythondev | help | that's the error I got when I tried to run celery along with django | 2019-03-07T01:07:59.867400 | Natosha | pythondev_help_Natosha_2019-03-07T01:07:59.867400 | 1,551,920,879.8674 | 12,464 |
pythondev | help | it could be that you already have a single alive connection and you are trying to open a new one. | 2019-03-07T03:30:28.868600 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T03:30:28.868600 | 1,551,929,428.8686 | 12,465 |
pythondev | help | is there a way that I can know which connection is alive? | 2019-03-07T04:03:00.869700 | Natosha | pythondev_help_Natosha_2019-03-07T04:03:00.869700 | 1,551,931,380.8697 | 12,466 |
pythondev | help | btw, in the VM from where I'm trying to run the script there's a django site that is running | 2019-03-07T04:06:03.872200 | Natosha | pythondev_help_Natosha_2019-03-07T04:06:03.872200 | 1,551,931,563.8722 | 12,467 |
pythondev | help | could that be the culprit on why I'm getting the error? | 2019-03-07T04:06:31.872700 | Natosha | pythondev_help_Natosha_2019-03-07T04:06:31.872700 | 1,551,931,591.8727 | 12,468 |
pythondev | help | without knowing your whole code, all i can say: Close connections right when you have stopped using them and reuse when possible instead of opening new ones.. | 2019-03-07T04:22:29.873600 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T04:22:29.873600 | 1,551,932,549.8736 | 12,469 |
pythondev | help | Hey guys, need some help with multi processing | 2019-03-07T06:53:06.875500 | Maddie | pythondev_help_Maddie_2019-03-07T06:53:06.875500 | 1,551,941,586.8755 | 12,470 |
pythondev | help | I want push some data to azure by hitting it's API but want that to happen as different processes, as the no. Could be very high in 100 thousands. | 2019-03-07T06:54:07.877100 | Maddie | pythondev_help_Maddie_2019-03-07T06:54:07.877100 | 1,551,941,647.8771 | 12,471 |
pythondev | help | So i want to reduce execution time I have to use multiprocessing | 2019-03-07T06:54:51.878300 | Maddie | pythondev_help_Maddie_2019-03-07T06:54:51.878300 | 1,551,941,691.8783 | 12,472 |
pythondev | help | Here's the snippet of my multiprocessing code | 2019-03-07T06:56:42.879300 | Maddie | pythondev_help_Maddie_2019-03-07T06:56:42.879300 | 1,551,941,802.8793 | 12,473 |
pythondev | help | Knowing how to ask a good question is a highly invaluable skill that will benefit you greatly in any career. Two good resources for suggestions and strategies to help you structure and phrase your question to make it easier for those here to understand your problem and help you work to a solution are:
• <https://www.mikeash.com/getting_answers.html>
• <https://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask>
| 2019-03-07T07:10:44.879900 | Leana | pythondev_help_Leana_2019-03-07T07:10:44.879900 | 1,551,942,644.8799 | 12,474 |
pythondev | help | Please use pastebin and share the link? The glare is making it hard to read the code (I'm also blind). Thanks. | 2019-03-07T07:19:14.880200 | Nieves | pythondev_help_Nieves_2019-03-07T07:19:14.880200 | 1,551,943,154.8802 | 12,475 |
pythondev | help | or <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> | 2019-03-07T07:35:54.880600 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T07:35:54.880600 | 1,551,944,154.8806 | 12,476 |
pythondev | help | I am looking to loop through thousands of json responses via a web url and parse out some of that data and store it in a flat file (csv, txt..etc is ok). Where should I begin? Didn't know which channel to put this in. | 2019-03-07T08:38:09.882900 | Concha | pythondev_help_Concha_2019-03-07T08:38:09.882900 | 1,551,947,889.8829 | 12,477 |
pythondev | help | split the project into smaller tasks and start experimenting, then ask again if particular sub task doesnt seem to work ? | 2019-03-07T08:45:41.885500 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T08:45:41.885500 | 1,551,948,341.8855 | 12,478 |
pythondev | help | Start by getting something working, no matter how slow. Then improve it. | 2019-03-07T08:45:59.886100 | Jonas | pythondev_help_Jonas_2019-03-07T08:45:59.886100 | 1,551,948,359.8861 | 12,479 |
pythondev | help | I've just decided to swap from "just" python to anaconda. In my anaconda installation I've ended up with python 3.6.8. Is it safe to just upgrade this to 3.7 within navigator, or would that cause issues with some other packages?
TBH, not entirely clear why I didn't get 3.7 with it, since I thought I'd downloaded the lates version which does say 3.7.
These are my versions:
```
Python 3.6.8 :: Anaconda custom (64-bit)
anaconda Command line client (version 1.7.2)
conda 4.6.7
``` | 2019-03-07T08:46:11.886400 | Chelsey | pythondev_help_Chelsey_2019-03-07T08:46:11.886400 | 1,551,948,371.8864 | 12,480 |
pythondev | help | None | 2019-03-07T08:47:24.886800 | Janessa | pythondev_help_Janessa_2019-03-07T08:47:24.886800 | 1,551,948,444.8868 | 12,481 |
pythondev | help | <@Janessa> that looks like Java (or maybe C#?). This is a slack for the python community. You would get better/more help in a community for the language in question. Off the top of my head you could try google groups, and reddit | 2019-03-07T08:54:45.889000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-07T08:54:45.889000 | 1,551,948,885.889 | 12,482 |
pythondev | help | yeaa,yea thank you, i noticed now | 2019-03-07T08:55:20.889900 | Janessa | pythondev_help_Janessa_2019-03-07T08:55:20.889900 | 1,551,948,920.8899 | 12,483 |
pythondev | help | Hey all,
Anyone ever encountered non-standard RFC codes in requests?
Like for example error codes 401 unauth, 404 doesnt exist, 500 error are standard. How do I handle a 600 code? | 2019-03-07T08:57:43.890600 | Lydia | pythondev_help_Lydia_2019-03-07T08:57:43.890600 | 1,551,949,063.8906 | 12,484 |
pythondev | help | I would contact them to ask :smile: | 2019-03-07T08:59:09.891200 | Jimmy | pythondev_help_Jimmy_2019-03-07T08:59:09.891200 | 1,551,949,149.8912 | 12,485 |
pythondev | help | Some apis extend the code range. I did a quick google for http 600 and a few show up | 2019-03-07T08:59:50.891500 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-07T08:59:50.891500 | 1,551,949,190.8915 | 12,486 |
pythondev | help | as <@Jimmy> said, I would check the api docs or contact the maintainers | 2019-03-07T09:00:07.891900 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-07T09:00:07.891900 | 1,551,949,207.8919 | 12,487 |
pythondev | help | <@Hiroko> <@Izetta> just want to clear some stuff up.
Selenium isn't a headless browser, but rather an abstraction around the WebDriver protocol with some extra bits to unify behavior between browsers so you can have the same selenium code hopefully do the same thing on every browser. It communicates with the various drivers for each browser to control them either locally or remotely (it's all network requests, so you can have selenium talk to the drivers over a network if you want), and, ideally, it tries to simulate how a real person would interact with the website (albeit much, much faster). The browsers it controls are not headless by default, but some of them support being run headless and you can have Selenium spin up a headless instance if you tell it to do so.
Regarding performance, a long, long time ago, ~in a world wide web far away,~ xpath used to perform better than normal CSS selectors, but even then, only in certain circumstances, and not by much. Nowadays, CSS selectors perform much better across the board. You should always try to use CSS selectors for a number of reasons (e.g. front end developer will be able to understand them easily, they're simpler and easier to write), but performance should not be a concern, especially if you're running e2e tests with selenium (it's already going to chug along relative to other types of tests, so shaving off .01 seconds of a 20 minute test run isn't really worth it). The _only_ time you should use XPATH is it you need some sort of logic in your locator that CSS selectors just can't do (and even then, there's often ways around it). For example, if you need to find an element that happens to have an element inside it with a certain attribute value, XPATH is needed, because CSS selectors can't traverse up the node tree to the parents/ancestors. | 2019-03-07T09:54:22.907800 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-07T09:54:22.907800 | 1,551,952,462.9078 | 12,488 |
pythondev | help | `config.py`
```
DEFAULT_SETTING = os.get(DEFAULT_SETTING'', 'foo')
class BaseConfig(object):
DEFAULT_SETTING = os.get(DEFAULT_SETTING'', 'foo')
```
Case 1
```
from config import DAFAULT_SETTING
print(DEFAULT_SETTING)
```
Case 2
```
from config import BaseConfig
print(BaseConfig.DEFAULT_SETTING)
```
Anyone know why there would be 2 diff appraoches to the this is being done? | 2019-03-07T09:58:06.912000 | Adolfo | pythondev_help_Adolfo_2019-03-07T09:58:06.912000 | 1,551,952,686.912 | 12,489 |
pythondev | help | case 1 is from module, second one within class.. So, they have a different scope. | 2019-03-07T10:01:34.915300 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:01:34.915300 | 1,551,952,894.9153 | 12,490 |
pythondev | help | Is there a benefit to have it in the class, if thats all its doing? | 2019-03-07T10:02:14.916700 | Adolfo | pythondev_help_Adolfo_2019-03-07T10:02:14.916700 | 1,551,952,934.9167 | 12,491 |
pythondev | help | no other logic at all | 2019-03-07T10:02:28.917400 | Adolfo | pythondev_help_Adolfo_2019-03-07T10:02:28.917400 | 1,551,952,948.9174 | 12,492 |
pythondev | help | well, you can then only import the class *only* and still have access to the value pointed by DEFAULT_SETTING | 2019-03-07T10:02:49.918200 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:02:49.918200 | 1,551,952,969.9182 | 12,493 |
pythondev | help | <@Ashley> hey, I’m not using selenium for test purposes, I using it to make web scraper | 2019-03-07T10:03:29.918900 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-07T10:03:29.918900 | 1,551,953,009.9189 | 12,494 |
pythondev | help | <@Izetta> first off, i have never used selenium directly from python, mainly via robotframework and such .. but if the question was would using lxml be a good idea? Afaik, and i might be very wrong - that probably wont work or if it does, it wouldnt probably provide any speed improvements. | 2019-03-07T10:06:04.921300 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:06:04.921300 | 1,551,953,164.9213 | 12,495 |
pythondev | help | because selenium would still be in the middle and for lxml to get its magic, you would still need to wait for within seleniun context for page ready (and any async requests that might trigger dom changes) and only then get the page source .. | 2019-03-07T10:08:03.923700 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:08:03.923700 | 1,551,953,283.9237 | 12,496 |
pythondev | help | and . afaik, you would be more interested in live dom than the just the html .. | 2019-03-07T10:08:32.924700 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:08:32.924700 | 1,551,953,312.9247 | 12,497 |
pythondev | help | <@Eric> what is robotframework | 2019-03-07T10:08:46.925400 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-07T10:08:46.925400 | 1,551,953,326.9254 | 12,498 |
pythondev | help | so,atleat from my pov, lxml is probably not what you are looking for. | 2019-03-07T10:08:54.925600 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:08:54.925600 | 1,551,953,334.9256 | 12,499 |
pythondev | help | <https://robotframework.org/> .. opensource automation framework .. | 2019-03-07T10:09:29.925900 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:09:29.925900 | 1,551,953,369.9259 | 12,500 |
pythondev | help | people will hate my for saying this but essentially: "Its like cucumber but with different syntax and written in python" | 2019-03-07T10:10:03.927100 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:10:03.927100 | 1,551,953,403.9271 | 12,501 |
pythondev | help | <@Eric> can I use it for web scraping | 2019-03-07T10:10:55.928500 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-07T10:10:55.928500 | 1,551,953,455.9285 | 12,502 |
pythondev | help | mm yes ? but it will still be using selenium underneath it :smile: | 2019-03-07T10:11:47.929300 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:11:47.929300 | 1,551,953,507.9293 | 12,503 |
pythondev | help | <@Eric> then, I look into it | 2019-03-07T10:12:50.930500 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-07T10:12:50.930500 | 1,551,953,570.9305 | 12,504 |
pythondev | help | so if you are familiar with sele & python, robot itself wont add much except extra layer of abstraction .. *but* if not, keyword based automation might be a good fit. Depending in your requirements. | 2019-03-07T10:13:34.931200 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:13:34.931200 | 1,551,953,614.9312 | 12,505 |
pythondev | help | <@Eric> yeah, I am pretty familiar sele & python | 2019-03-07T10:16:34.933100 | Izetta | pythondev_help_Izetta_2019-03-07T10:16:34.933100 | 1,551,953,794.9331 | 12,506 |
pythondev | help | while i like people getting introduced to rf, i dont think you will get any extra features from using it | 2019-03-07T10:30:38.934300 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:30:38.934300 | 1,551,954,638.9343 | 12,507 |
pythondev | help | <@Izetta> Selenium is actually a _terrible_ scraping tool. It's built to work like a user, so it will be slow in many areas, and refuse to cooperate in others. (e.g. if an element has text, but isn't "visible", selenium will tell you it has no text). Using a full browser in general is also super slow, so you may want to explore other options. Robot is also a testing framework, so it's not really gonna offer you anything | 2019-03-07T10:49:22.936800 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-07T10:49:22.936800 | 1,551,955,762.9368 | 12,508 |
pythondev | help | testing & *rpa* tool :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-03-07T10:55:33.937600 | Eric | pythondev_help_Eric_2019-03-07T10:55:33.937600 | 1,551,956,133.9376 | 12,509 |
pythondev | help | Selenium sucks. I hate it. | 2019-03-07T10:59:00.938700 | Nieves | pythondev_help_Nieves_2019-03-07T10:59:00.938700 | 1,551,956,340.9387 | 12,510 |
pythondev | help | <@Nieves> why do you hate it? trying to use it here in my prod environment and Ive loved it, especially the headless mode | 2019-03-07T11:13:15.939300 | Lydia | pythondev_help_Lydia_2019-03-07T11:13:15.939300 | 1,551,957,195.9393 | 12,511 |
pythondev | help | I find their insistence on not providing the return code to be baffling | 2019-03-07T12:06:48.939900 | Karoline | pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-07T12:06:48.939900 | 1,551,960,408.9399 | 12,512 |
pythondev | help | I eventually figured a way around it, but it's like some sort of religious objection | 2019-03-07T12:07:04.940300 | Karoline | pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-07T12:07:04.940300 | 1,551,960,424.9403 | 12,513 |
pythondev | help | <@Karoline> because it's not in the WebDriver spec. It's not a selenium issue | 2019-03-07T12:13:40.940600 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-07T12:13:40.940600 | 1,551,960,820.9406 | 12,514 |
pythondev | help | I mean it is in the sense that they could get it, and choose not to. I've seen them reply on issues that it's not what the tool is for as if it were some sort of philosophical issue. | 2019-03-07T12:14:33.942500 | Karoline | pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-07T12:14:33.942500 | 1,551,960,873.9425 | 12,515 |
pythondev | help | Aside from that, it's geared towards behaving as a user so you can test from as close to a user's perspective as you can in automation. Users don't care about return codes | 2019-03-07T12:15:25.943500 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-07T12:15:25.943500 | 1,551,960,925.9435 | 12,516 |
pythondev | help | Right, but it's not a user. It's a machine. | 2019-03-07T12:15:43.944200 | Karoline | pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-07T12:15:43.944200 | 1,551,960,943.9442 | 12,517 |
pythondev | help | If there's a problem, it should be evident from other things | 2019-03-07T12:15:51.944600 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-07T12:15:51.944600 | 1,551,960,951.9446 | 12,518 |
pythondev | help | And lots of people have the use case of needing the return code. | 2019-03-07T12:15:55.944800 | Karoline | pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-07T12:15:55.944800 | 1,551,960,955.9448 | 12,519 |
pythondev | help | It's a machine meant to behave like a person | 2019-03-07T12:16:13.945100 | Ashley | pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-03-07T12:16:13.945100 | 1,551,960,973.9451 | 12,520 |
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