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Perhaps the answer is: Clojure only accidentally works on doubles, and it is not the intended API.
2017-11-18T10:31:10.000017
Dirk
clojurians
clojure
There is a cast to `int` sitting right in the `:inline` definition, though, so perhaps it is intentional.
2017-11-18T10:31:53.000096
Dirk
clojurians
clojure
JavaScript also accepts doubles but interprets them as keys. Another source of confusion: should `aget` be more like the host or weird behavior in JVM Clojure
2017-11-18T10:32:04.000055
Johana
clojurians
clojure
Valid question IMHO
2017-11-18T10:33:07.000098
Dirk
clojurians
clojure
``` x = {1.5: 1} x[1.5] // 1 ```
2017-11-18T10:33:50.000068
Johana
clojurians
clojure
I successfully wrote lots of ClojureScript, relying on Clojure's semantics, without ever having learned JavaScript. Perhaps this is an argument for staying away from host semantics when you can.
2017-11-18T10:40:53.000041
Dirk
clojurians
clojure
Numbers and regexes have host semantics/implementations as well.
2017-11-18T10:44:00.000075
Johana
clojurians
clojure
But like I said, it’s no big deal to move to goog.object for objects… just don’t understand the double behavior… maybe it has a reason… :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-11-18T10:51:39.000030
Johana
clojurians
clojure
Maybe there is no reason for it <@Johana>. It could well just be an accident of a change made to avoid reflection <https://github.com/clojure/clojure/commit/742619e583400400e69cd46ab9e9536c10afb738>
2017-11-18T10:53:42.000038
Dirk
clojurians
clojure
Hmm, commit message says ‘hints’ indeed…
2017-11-18T10:54:59.000059
Johana
clojurians
clojure
isn't the int cast there so that clojure defaulting to longs doesn't make things inconvenient?
2017-11-18T10:55:28.000066
Margaret
clojurians
clojure
That's the hypothesis (better support for `long`, not an intention to support `double`)
2017-11-18T10:56:01.000084
Dirk
clojurians
clojure
without all the int casting clojure does, our code would get ugly with all the long-&gt;int conversions we would be doing every time we interact with methods
2017-11-18T10:56:40.000044
Margaret
clojurians
clojure
So perhaps `(aget (into-array [1 2 3]) 0.1)` is not correct code and only works as an accident.
2017-11-18T10:57:22.000128
Dirk
clojurians
clojure
I think so yes
2017-11-18T10:57:29.000003
Johana
clojurians
clojure
Cool. I captured this concept in the relevant ClojureScript ticket <https://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJS-2149?focusedCommentId=47399&amp;page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-47399>
2017-11-18T11:02:35.000082
Dirk
clojurians
clojure
I was doing some inspection of stacktraces, and I noticed that I don't have `clojure/lang/RT.java` on the classpath, only `clojure/lang/RT.class`. Is that normal?
2017-11-18T11:30:17.000057
Jodie
clojurians
clojure
If it is normal, why is it this way? I have some other java sources on the classpath.
2017-11-18T11:31:26.000062
Jodie
clojurians
clojure
why would a java file be on classpath?
2017-11-18T11:32:04.000114
Margaret
clojurians
clojure
you can't run it
2017-11-18T11:32:15.000053
Margaret
clojurians
clojure
<@Margaret> I presumed so that tooling could read it, is that not correct?
2017-11-18T11:59:11.000118
Jodie
clojurians
clojure
<@Jodie> sources are often distributed as separate source jars, to reduce jar sizes
2017-11-18T12:03:31.000099
Carletta
clojurians
clojure
<http://central.maven.org/maven2/org/clojure/clojure/1.9.0-RC1/> like -sources jar here
2017-11-18T12:04:17.000060
Carletta
clojurians
clojure
ah, I've found that jar. Looks like cider has an open discussion about this: <https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider-nrepl/issues/64>
2017-11-18T12:04:19.000094
Jodie
clojurians
clojure
<https://gitlab.com/vise890/lein-pocketbook> works, even if very verbose. Interesting tool.
2017-11-18T12:10:25.000094
Jodie
clojurians
clojure
Does anyone have any preferred Clojure libraries/wrappers for working with Apache Kafka?
2017-11-18T13:52:47.000089
Adelina
clojurians
clojure
YMMV but I've had the most luck with avoiding clojure bindings as much as possible and using interop, I use a few things from clj-kafka (mostly for creating the objects) and a lot of interop once I have the things to work with
2017-11-18T13:54:43.000001
Margaret
clojurians
clojure
<@Adelina> hi, btw, I think we met at clojure/west for an example of why I avoid clojure bindings, there's a tendency to wrap side effecting IO operations in lazy abstractions, which is a technique that creates more problems than it solves
2017-11-18T13:59:57.000053
Margaret
clojurians
clojure
the abstraction of lazy computation over IO is very lossy, you can't ignore the IO so now you have to keep track of two abstractions (the IO abstraction itself, plus the laziness abstraction) and the lazy thing will tend to break things
2017-11-18T14:01:01.000064
Margaret
clojurians
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:thinking_face: interesting! Yeah, I think I remember meeting you at the conference!
2017-11-18T14:05:12.000098
Adelina
clojurians
clojure
Those are some things I definitely hadn't thought about or considered. I was trying to weigh using interop vs using an existing kafka library like clj-kafka.
2017-11-18T14:11:47.000037
Adelina
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clojure
<@Bettyann> :flag-br:
2017-11-18T14:38:54.000042
Lois
clojurians
clojure
<@Adelina> Have not seem one I’m really happy with, but not doing kafka now, but worked on a java library which wrapped the java clients. I almost used it for a pet project so did some research. Most likely I will use the java client. If I would want to to do something with the stream api, I would probably just use java.
2017-11-18T14:50:03.000080
Daine
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clojure
teng - `read` takes a stream, you can use it to repeatedly access a stream and get the next form
2017-11-18T15:15:43.000015
Margaret
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clojure
I haven't used lein in a while and upgraded before I created a new project and am getting errors like this when I try and do `lein deps`: ```Could not transfer artifact enlive:enlive:jar:1.1.6 from/to central (<https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/>): Connect to [localhost/127.0.0.1] failed: Connection refused (Connection refused) Could not transfer artifact enlive:enlive:jar:1.1.6 from/to clojars (<https://repo.clojars.org/>): Connect to [localhost/127.0.0.1] failed: Connection refused (Connection refused) ```
2017-11-18T15:24:48.000045
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
Any ideas why it's trying to connect to localhost?
2017-11-18T15:25:15.000061
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
<@Kassie> ```(with-open [rdr (-&gt; "clojure/conduit/src/conduit/status_transmitter.clj" (io/reader) (java.io.PushbackReader.))] (doall (take-while #(not= ::done %) (repeatedly #(try (read rdr) (catch Exception _ ::done))))))``` `((ns conduit.status-transmitter (:require [taoensso.timbre :as timbre] [conduit.kafka :as kafka] [noisesmith.component :as component] [conduit.tools.component-util :as util]) (:import (java.util.concurrent ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor TimeUnit) (java.util Date) (<http://java.net|java.net> InetAddress) (java.lang.management ManagementFactory) (javax.management ObjectName))) (defn get-cpu [] (let [mbs (ManagementFactory/getPlatformMBeanServer) oname (ObjectName/getInstance "java.lang:type=OperatingSystem") ls (.getAttributes mbs oname (into-array ["ProcessCpuLoad"])) usages-raw (map (fn* [p1__249#] (.getValue p1__249#)) ls) usage (map (fn* [p1__250#] (/ (* p1__250# 1000) 10.0)) usages-raw)] usage)) (defn get-all-stacks [] (map (fn*...`
2017-11-18T15:26:15.000045
Margaret
clojurians
clojure
<@Margaret> Wow, that worked! Thank you so much! I was surprised that I couldn’t find this anywhere though :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-11-18T15:29:05.000023
Kassie
clojurians
clojure
``` (defstyles media (at-media {:orientation :landscape} {:html {:transform "rotate(-90deg)"}})) (css media) (comment @media (orientation: landscape) { html-transform: rotate(-90deg); }) @media screen and (min-width: 320px) and (max-width: 767px) and (orientation: landscape) { html { transform: rotate(-90deg); transform-origin: left top; width: 100vh; overflow-x: hidden; position: absolute; top: 100%; left: 0; } } ``` how do I inject the 'screen and' into the @media part ?
2017-11-18T15:37:28.000020
Berry
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clojure
found it, {:screen true}
2017-11-18T15:47:05.000034
Berry
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clojure
any ideas how I can figure out what's going on with my lein? is there a better place to ask?
2017-11-18T16:07:36.000066
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
<@Gwendolyn> There's a <#C0AB48493|leiningen> channel -- but you could try your question since a lot of people here use `lein`...
2017-11-18T16:29:37.000011
Daniell
clojurians
clojure
<@Daniell> Thanks, my question is above <https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/C03S1KBA2/p1511036688000045> I found the lein channel too and posted there as well
2017-11-18T16:30:28.000076
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
Maybe something odd in your `~/.lein/profiles.clj` file?
2017-11-18T16:34:36.000005
Daniell
clojurians
clojure
I deleted my .lein folder to try and fix it
2017-11-18T16:34:54.000052
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
'k... Do you have any network proxy running or perhaps a firewall that might be messing with things?
2017-11-18T16:36:00.000051
Daniell
clojurians
clojure
nope, I am at home and using a standard ubuntu install
2017-11-18T16:36:15.000033
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
Can you get to those repo URLs in a browser on that machine?
2017-11-18T16:36:37.000019
Daniell
clojurians
clojure
yes
2017-11-18T16:36:40.000015
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
curl and chrome both
2017-11-18T16:36:46.000039
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
`Connect to [localhost/127.0.0.1] failed: Connection refused (Connection refused)` seems unusual to me, but I could be wrong
2017-11-18T16:37:10.000058
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
should it be trying to connect to localhost?
2017-11-18T16:37:19.000023
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
Yeah I've never seen that.
2017-11-18T16:37:29.000014
Daniell
clojurians
clojure
proxy env's are all empty
2017-11-18T16:39:09.000067
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
Did you try `lein repl` outside a project folder? (Just to make sure there's nothing odd in your `project.clj` file)
2017-11-18T16:40:00.000021
Daniell
clojurians
clojure
yes, I did, I tried it from ~/
2017-11-18T16:40:12.000025
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
I'm out of suggestions at this point, sorry :disappointed:
2017-11-18T16:46:22.000033
Daniell
clojurians
clojure
no problem, thanks
2017-11-18T16:47:45.000073
Gwendolyn
clojurians
clojure
I’m trying to read a json from stdin but I’m having some problems.. I’m using cheshire trying to convert the entry but I’m getting a “JsonEOFException: Unexpected end-of-input” Does anyone tried to do this?
2017-11-18T20:43:07.000029
Audie
clojurians
clojure
```(ns job-queue.core (:gen-class) (:require [job-queue.job-queue-handler :as handler] [cheshire.core :refer :all])) (defn handle-json [json] (prn "json: " json) (prn "json decoded: " (decode json true))) (defn -main [&amp; args] (println "Hi, enter the JSON!") (doseq [in (line-seq (java.io.BufferedReader. *in*))] (handle-json in))) ```
2017-11-18T20:43:48.000035
Audie
clojurians
clojure
perhaps that’s because stdin is bringing one line at a time?
2017-11-18T20:45:37.000085
Audie
clojurians
clojure
probably, yes
2017-11-18T20:48:31.000056
Domingo
clojurians
clojure
hmm Is there a way to bring the lines all together?
2017-11-18T20:48:56.000004
Audie
clojurians
clojure
`slurp` is a common way of reading a file into a string
2017-11-18T20:49:24.000070
Domingo
clojurians
clojure
<http://clojuredocs.org/clojure.core/slurp>
2017-11-18T20:49:41.000007
Domingo
clojurians
clojure
I have tried to do with slurp but it doesn’t print anything ```(ns job-queue.core (:gen-class) (:require [job-queue.job-queue-handler :as handler] [cheshire.core :refer :all])) (defn handle-json [json] (prn "json: " json) (prn "json decoded: " (decode json true))) (defn -main [&amp; args] (println "Hi, enter the JSON!") (let [in (slurp *in*)] (handle-json in))) ```
2017-11-18T20:52:56.000013
Audie
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clojure
am I doing something wrong?
2017-11-18T20:53:27.000007
Audie
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clojure
how are you calling it from the command line?
2017-11-18T20:59:01.000001
Domingo
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clojure
I’m executing the command ```lein run```
2017-11-18T21:00:35.000070
Audie
clojurians
clojure
and then pasting a json that is correctly formatted
2017-11-18T21:01:40.000027
Audie
clojurians
clojure
try `echo '"string"' | lein run`
2017-11-18T21:04:39.000059
Domingo
clojurians
clojure
I suspect `slurp` needs and EOF, which it's not getting if you're running just `lein run` and typing
2017-11-18T21:06:35.000016
Domingo
clojurians
clojure
(well, `ctrl-d` will send EOF, but it'll also quit the program. that works for me.)
2017-11-18T21:07:20.000038
Domingo
clojurians
clojure
yeah, if I executes ```echo '"string"' | lein run``` it works
2017-11-18T21:09:06.000001
Audie
clojurians
clojure
well, It’s an exercice and I have more things to do. I’m going to move on this way
2017-11-18T21:10:32.000065
Audie
clojurians
clojure
thanks a lot <@Domingo>
2017-11-18T21:10:45.000048
Audie
clojurians
clojure
glad to help!
2017-11-18T21:11:06.000085
Domingo
clojurians
clojure
This is a common code pattern I use: ``` (case (:tag obj) :foo (let [{:keys [a b c]} obj] ...) :bar (let [{:keys [x y z]} obj] ...) :cat (let [{:keys [aa dd ff]} obj] ...)) ``` Is there a nice macro to simplify this? basically, I want to 1. dispatch on the :tag field, and 2. do a destructuring bind on keys
2017-11-18T21:41:28.000044
Berry
clojurians
clojure
You could just use a multimethod
2017-11-18T21:45:03.000085
Sonny
clojurians
clojure
``` (defn rule-&gt;sexp [obj [[tag &amp; vars] &amp; body]] `[~tag (let [{:keys ~(vec vars)} ~obj] ~@body)]) (defmacro tdbind [obj &amp; rules] (let [obj-var (gensym "obj")] `(let [~obj-var ~obj] (case (:tag ~obj-var) ~@(mapcat #(rule-&gt;sexp obj-var %) rules))))) (macroexpand-1 '(tdbind (make some obj) [[:rect x y] (* x y)] [[:circle r] (* r r 3.14)] [[:triangle a b c] (assert false "no idea")])) (comment (clojure.core/let [obj9109 (make some obj)] (clojure.core/case (:tag obj9109) :rect (clojure.core/let [{:keys [x y]} obj9109] (* x y)) :circle (clojure.core/let [{:keys [r]} obj9109] (* r r 3.14)) :triangle (clojure.core/let [{:keys [a b c]} obj9109] (assert false "no idea"))))) ``` is closer to what . I had in mind :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-11-18T21:53:24.000065
Berry
clojurians
clojure
cross-posting this link here from <#C03RZMDSH|datomic>, would appreciate any help <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47373356/query-result-pagination-in-datomic>
2017-11-18T22:24:01.000044
Ahmad
clojurians
clojure
What's your way of introducing new bindings as you test some conditions? I see that let bindings in `cond` was rejected. <https://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-200?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel> <https://github.com/Engelberg/better-cond>
2017-11-19T03:43:16.000020
Lesia
clojurians
clojure
that's to avoid boxing
2017-11-19T04:52:03.000036
Kareen
clojurians
clojure
ah, sorry didn't notice I was this back in the scrollback :)
2017-11-19T04:53:08.000027
Kareen
clojurians
clojure
Hi, how to get the min value's index of a vector? shall i use `(let [v [1 2 3 4]] (.indexOf v (apply min v)))`?
2017-11-19T04:55:22.000048
Tari
clojurians
clojure
you can `(apply min-key v (range (count v)))`
2017-11-19T05:26:04.000066
Kareen
clojurians
clojure
Here’s my try, bit verbose; would the use of reduce make it more or less efficient than using ranges? ``` (let [v [7 2 4 3]] (reduce-kv (fn [[min-k min-v] k v] (if (&lt; v min-v) [k v] [min-k min-v])) [0 (first v)] v)) ```
2017-11-19T05:32:16.000070
Deborah
clojurians
clojure
(also, doesn’t work correctly for an empty vector but gives you both key and value)
2017-11-19T05:33:23.000022
Deborah
clojurians
clojure
A multimethod would be a lot simpler
2017-11-19T09:10:20.000055
Sonny
clojurians
clojure
(defmulti area :tag) (defmethod area :rect [{:keys [x y]}] (* x y))
2017-11-19T09:12:46.000055
Sonny
clojurians
clojure
Etc
2017-11-19T09:12:57.000051
Sonny
clojurians
clojure
Hello everyone. Did anyone of you ever wrote a logging into a clojure application? I am currently building a clojure app with postgresql and one of main features should be activity log. This feature was actualy designed after i wrote a lot of code, so customizing every database action to also make a activity log would be time counsuming and to be honest not very clean solution.
2017-11-19T15:48:09.000054
Logan
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clojure
Therefore I am asking if anyone of you know any good clean solution to this? I was thinking about some posgres triggers or stuff like that, but i need to know which user in my application is doing such action
2017-11-19T15:49:05.000061
Logan
clojurians
clojure
realistically, how big can a *.cljc file get before it becomes too big ?
2017-11-19T18:31:39.000035
Berry
clojurians
clojure
<@Berry> depends on who you ask :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
2017-11-19T18:36:05.000057
Kristy
clojurians
clojure
personally I go by these lines in general
2017-11-19T18:37:09.000116
Kristy
clojurians
clojure
Anyone who might help me with my issue :slightly_smiling_face:?
2017-11-19T18:37:28.000004
Logan
clojurians
clojure
&gt; Did anyone of you ever wrote a logging into a clojure application? I'm confused by the wording
2017-11-19T18:38:19.000076
Kristy
clojurians
clojure
Sorry, i will try to clarify it as much as possible
2017-11-19T18:38:44.000114
Logan
clojurians
clojure
We have appplication where several users perform basic CRUD actions on postgresql database
2017-11-19T18:39:40.000016
Logan