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<https://github.com/leonoel/task>
2017-11-20T12:19:19.000507
Lovie
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<@Berry> core.cache has these sorts of things <https://github.com/clojure/core.cache> - it’s very flexible but not as easy to use as memoize
2017-11-20T12:56:49.000411
Margaret
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the key thing for me that made core.cache “click” is that nothing in core.cache knows or cares how your mutable storage is implemented - it has a bunch of functions that accept an immutable hash map, and return an immutable hash-map, and it’s your job to figure out what to do with that hash-map in your app
2017-11-20T12:57:36.000249
Margaret
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compare to memoize, which implicitly uses an atom holding an immutable hash-map that you never touch directly
2017-11-20T12:57:52.000537
Margaret
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oh, sadly core.cache isn’t cljs compatible- I wonder what else is out there
2017-11-20T12:59:33.000272
Margaret
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that was it, thanks <@Lovie>
2017-11-20T13:13:08.000355
Guillermo
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How can I run `lein` in verbose mode and see the source paths that are used
2017-11-20T13:55:12.000236
Jayne
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I have set source path in `:dev` profile
2017-11-20T13:55:48.000427
Jayne
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`:source-paths ["dev/src/clj" "dev/resources" "test/resources"]`
2017-11-20T13:56:09.000353
Jayne
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<@Jayne> One option: run `(clojure.java.classpath/classpath-directories)` in your repl
2017-11-20T13:56:34.000441
Randee
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my main file is not able to find other files in source paths
2017-11-20T13:57:12.000545
Jayne
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<@Jayne> if you look at the classpath in the running repl, all your source directories need to be on the class path (and the namespace needs to form a path starting at a classpath entry matching the namespace name)
2017-11-20T14:00:03.000248
Margaret
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```(System/getProperty "java.class.path")```
2017-11-20T14:00:31.000782
Margaret
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a “source path” is a leaky leiningen abstraction, all clojure itself cares about is the classpath
2017-11-20T14:02:24.000363
Margaret
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<@Margaret> I do see the directory in class path
2017-11-20T14:02:29.000539
Jayne
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but I get file not found
2017-11-20T14:02:46.000278
Jayne
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when I do `lein uberjar`
2017-11-20T14:02:53.000353
Jayne
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then the path to your file does not match the namespace, or it failed to load for some other reason and you misunderstood the error
2017-11-20T14:02:56.000345
Margaret
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`Exception in thread "main" java.io.FileNotFoundException: Could not locate ****/system__init.class or ****/system.clj on classpath., compiling:(server.clj:1:1)`
2017-11-20T14:03:45.000496
Jayne
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well, the part where the problem is would be in the **** somewhere - double check that `-` is translated to `_` and that the file path from the classpath root matches the full namespace
2017-11-20T14:04:53.000712
Margaret
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**** is just a single word
2017-11-20T14:05:33.000723
Jayne
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name of our project
2017-11-20T14:05:39.000392
Jayne
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without any `-` or `_`
2017-11-20T14:06:03.000516
Jayne
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and you have a /****/system.clj on the classpath during uberjar creation?
2017-11-20T14:06:16.000474
Margaret
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How can I check the classpath while uberjar ?
2017-11-20T14:06:55.000622
Jayne
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```lein with-profile uberjar cp```
2017-11-20T14:07:39.000482
Margaret
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yeah <@Margaret> its not there
2017-11-20T14:09:00.000134
Jayne
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Its in dev profile
2017-11-20T14:09:08.000223
Jayne
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dev profile is for things you only use in dev
2017-11-20T14:09:18.000151
Margaret
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and isn’t dev profile loaded by default ?
2017-11-20T14:09:19.000185
Jayne
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no
2017-11-20T14:09:22.000169
Margaret
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`lein with-profile dev uberjar`
2017-11-20T14:09:40.000124
Jayne
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it’s specifically for things you want during dev but not while making an artifact
2017-11-20T14:09:40.000417
Margaret
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should this work ?
2017-11-20T14:09:47.000154
Jayne
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don’t do that! if you need the source files in your uberjar, put them in the normal source paths, don’t put them in dev
2017-11-20T14:10:05.000728
Margaret
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if you add the dev profile to your uberjar command, you also pull in things that are only needed during dev (especially a risk with tools like cider that add to your dev profile)
2017-11-20T14:10:40.000230
Margaret
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it would also mean your test files would end up in the jar - not usually what people want
2017-11-20T14:11:01.000158
Margaret
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Thanks <@Margaret> I was stuck on it for some time. Didnt know how to check class path.
2017-11-20T14:17:18.000592
Jayne
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Can you please explain this command ```lein with-profile uberjar cp``` in one line
2017-11-20T14:17:37.000386
Jayne
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it says “use the uberjar configuration, and run the cp command”
2017-11-20T14:18:07.000117
Margaret
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“lein cp” would run lein with the default profile and show the classpath
2017-11-20T14:18:24.000188
Margaret
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you can also use `lein with-profile +foo ...` to merge rather than replace profiles
2017-11-20T14:18:55.000398
Margaret
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okay so `:uberjar` it self is a profile
2017-11-20T14:19:22.000121
Jayne
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?
2017-11-20T14:19:23.000021
Jayne
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one that comes as default with lein ?
2017-11-20T14:19:42.000285
Jayne
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uberjar is a profile, yes - you can see a lot more example and info in the output of `lein help sample`
2017-11-20T14:19:45.000181
Margaret
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Thanks <@Margaret>.
2017-11-20T14:20:02.000549
Jayne
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any recommendations of mocking libraries ??
2017-11-20T14:43:11.000619
Anneliese
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clojure folks tend to avoid mocking
2017-11-20T14:47:44.000562
Guillermo
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depends on the features you need, but we (CircleCI) use <https://github.com/circleci/bond>
2017-11-20T14:48:14.000481
Mia
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I have had good success in the past with making protocols that represent external side-effects (e.g. a mail server) and then reifying dummy impls.
2017-11-20T14:49:01.000372
Guillermo
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very simple and light
2017-11-20T14:49:04.000018
Mia
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<@Guillermo> but how can i test a function that depends on another one that calls external systems or has side effect
2017-11-20T14:49:08.000536
Anneliese
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<@Guillermo> I got your point
2017-11-20T14:49:35.000137
Anneliese
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if you feel the need to mock, you might have a global that needs to be an argument.
2017-11-20T14:49:44.000651
Guillermo
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^^ that’s an awesome way to think about it
2017-11-20T14:50:10.000319
Mia
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(I'm speaking in vast generalities)
2017-11-20T14:50:12.000614
Guillermo
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ideally the external functionality has a thin wrapper that you can easily cover with integration tests, and you can pass in an alternate stub implementation for testing things that use it
2017-11-20T14:50:15.000405
Margaret
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(I think this expands on what ghadi was saying)
2017-11-20T14:50:27.000175
Margaret
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sometimes it’s even worth making a protocol, in order to have two implementations (the stub and the one that uses some external / stateful / side effecting resource)
2017-11-20T14:51:28.000375
Margaret
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If you're using Ring or similar, you can make a middleware that inserts the appropriate implementation into the request context, that way you don't have to grab it from a global var
2017-11-20T14:52:59.000583
Guillermo
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<@Margaret> <@Guillermo> I got the point but I really don't know why we should avoid mocks? aren't they easier than stubing protocols?
2017-11-20T14:54:07.000467
Anneliese
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they lead to unneeded complexity, you end up wrangling an implicit global state in order to verify something that shouldn’t care about it
2017-11-20T14:54:53.000484
Margaret
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with-redefs for example causes a multitude of problems, including preventing parallel testing
2017-11-20T14:55:15.000675
Margaret
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if you really want the easier / global / implicit thing, at least implement it in terms of something that uses an explicit argument to the function - you can easily build implicit / global / stateful out of explicit immutable arguments, but it is much harder to go the other way
2017-11-20T14:56:25.000530
Margaret
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valid point but this will add too many types and records which i try to avoid most of the time
2017-11-20T14:57:24.000054
Anneliese
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you can do it without a protocol or record - I only mention using a protocol (which in my practice means using a reify in the test, and either a record or reify in the implementation) - because that can simplify the swapping of implementations
2017-11-20T14:58:38.000324
Margaret
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if you prefer functions, use functions, it does work
2017-11-20T14:58:49.000176
Margaret
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<@Margaret> thnx
2017-11-20T15:00:34.000385
Anneliese
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Standard environment. Yeah, it takes a little bit, but it's a lot easier now that there are no restrictions on what classes to use. Let me know if you have specific questions and if there's interest, I might publish it as a lein plugin.
2017-11-20T15:06:12.000158
Ed
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are there any known gotchas involving partial application around a `stest/instrument`ed function ?
2017-11-20T15:23:19.000251
Edward
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I get this error `Warning: The Main-Class specified does not exist within the jar. It may not be executable as expected. A gen-class directive may be missing in the namespace which contains the main method, or the namespace has not been AOT-compiled.`
2017-11-20T15:45:25.000327
Jayne
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you can run an uberjar without AOT if you can specify the java command line: `java -cp my-uber.jar clojure.main -m my.ns`
2017-11-20T15:47:32.000093
Margaret
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if you need the jar to be startable or loaded by some other java process, you probably need aot though
2017-11-20T15:47:53.000064
Margaret
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Thanks <@Margaret>. I was missing `(:gen-class)`
2017-11-20T15:53:19.000100
Jayne
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in the main file
2017-11-20T15:53:22.000196
Jayne
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I have a `wrap-auth` fn in compojure-api, and an endpoint where I'd like it to be conditionally applied contingent on a query parameter is that possible?
2017-11-20T16:33:22.000631
Lori
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ex, either they're authenticated, or a query param has a valid signature (in which case, non-authd is fine)
2017-11-20T16:34:00.000193
Lori
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yes, you can make a middleware that either returns the handler unchanged, or applies a middleware, based on some property of the request-map
2017-11-20T16:51:15.000409
Margaret
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something like `(defn conditional-middleware [pred? middleware handler] (fn [request] (if (pred? request) ((middleware handler) request) (handler request))))`
2017-11-20T16:52:22.000176
Margaret
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if you don’t like `((` you can use let to bind the wrapped handler
2017-11-20T16:52:43.000473
Margaret
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oh nice, I think that'll work thank you!
2017-11-20T16:53:00.000509
Lori
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the devilish thing with ring is it’s very flexible and things like this are easy to apply, but it can be very hard to debug when you have enough wrappers like this - my theory is that pedestal interceptors are an improvement as they are data you can investigate on the fly but haven’t used them in anger
2017-11-20T16:54:20.000446
Margaret
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I'm in the same camp, anytime I can convert "effects" to data, it tends to be a win
2017-11-20T16:57:46.000109
Lori
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Ring is also rather anti-async, you can bolt-in async stuff, but it doesn't work super well.
2017-11-20T17:11:35.000027
Sandy
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from r/Clojure/ :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-11-20T17:40:56.000206
Lovie
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relatedly, I have a `:path-param` that I'm trying to pull off the `request` in my `wrap`per but the best I can find on there is `:path-info` which has my route un-parsed is there place I can get a parsed `:path-param`, eg for `myroute/:x`, `(get-in request [:path-params??? :x)`
2017-11-20T18:10:51.000424
Lori
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basically "no"
2017-11-20T18:24:34.000059
Rebeca
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longer answer is it depends on which library you using for routing
2017-11-20T18:24:57.000078
Rebeca
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even longer is it depends on which library you use for routing and if you use it to do routing before or after your middleware is run
2017-11-20T18:25:58.000231
Rebeca
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Using bidi and yada you can get this, I suspect bidi with Ring would get you most of the way there too. If I understand the question correctly
2017-11-20T19:00:05.000018
Shira
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G’day all. Is the closure.algo.generic really the only standard-ish library fmap? That’s astounding! Is there a transducer for it? I like the look of <@Eunice> but might be a bit much stuff for all I need (at the moment)... mind you I’ll probably use ap and lift soon enough.
2017-11-21T04:51:06.000021
Pattie
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Here's a preview of the latest setup I'm working with. Main draw back at the moment is no nrepl support, but using a socket repl. Definitely a couple of other rough edges, but thought I'll share. For anyone else interested, feel free to reach out. <https://gist.github.com/alpeware/f18bef80cb521347d22b85f1ad07ada7>
2017-11-21T04:53:48.000328
Ed
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<@Pattie> by fmap you mean monads? Then yes, monad usage is quite rare in Clojure except when no other approach will work (for example in test.check).
2017-11-21T08:41:07.000464
Sandy
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In general Clojure tends to drive abstractions with data, and data interpreters/compilers instead of directly with functional composition.
2017-11-21T08:41:57.000613
Sandy
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hey all. I’ve got a function that provides me with a list of all the possible combinations of values from two lists: ``` (defn all-combinations "Return all possible combinations of values from as and bs collections." [as bs] (apply concat (for [a as] (for [b bs] [a b])))) ```
2017-11-21T09:17:45.000635
Timmy
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I’d like to do this to a list of lists rather than just a pair of lists.
2017-11-21T09:18:26.000286
Timmy
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Has anyone got any hints for doing so neatly?
2017-11-21T09:18:37.000191
Timmy
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<@Timmy> Perhaps <https://github.com/clojure/math.combinatorics>
2017-11-21T09:26:27.000160
Adrien
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Thanks <@Adrien> cartesian-product looks just the job
2017-11-21T09:27:03.000394
Timmy