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elmlang
general
yeah true
2019-01-29T04:18:58.198900
Nana
elmlang
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I dream of an Elm with Lisp-like powers, where you can evaluate Elm expressions within a running Elm program.
2019-01-29T04:19:07.199100
Dorsey
elmlang
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Ah, the source code is here: <https://github.com/girishso/elm-repl-in-browser>
2019-01-29T04:22:20.199400
Dorsey
elmlang
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As I thought, it's connecting to REPL running in a container. Not ideal, but I guess good enough.
2019-01-29T04:23:05.199600
Dorsey
elmlang
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Ellie also compiles server-side. The 0.19 compiler does tricks for efficiency which GHCJS can't handle.
2019-01-29T04:47:14.199900
Huong
elmlang
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Oh, I see. Thanks.
2019-01-29T04:47:35.200100
Dorsey
elmlang
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does anyone have a glue why the linear-algebra package does provide `add`, `sub` for vectors, but not `div` and `mul`? Am I missing something here?
2019-01-29T04:50:23.201800
Earnestine
elmlang
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There is a reason why there is no vector division: <https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/111652/can-we-divide-two-vectors>
2019-01-29T04:52:16.201900
Antonette
elmlang
general
As for the products, all the products you need are there.
2019-01-29T04:52:31.202200
Antonette
elmlang
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<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm-explorations/linear-algebra/latest/Math-Vector2#scale>
2019-01-29T04:52:59.202400
Antonette
elmlang
general
(product with a scalar ; if you want to divide by said scalar, you can scale by a fraction)
2019-01-29T04:54:05.202600
Antonette
elmlang
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<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm-explorations/linear-algebra/latest/Math-Vector2#dot>
2019-01-29T04:54:14.202800
Antonette
elmlang
general
:point_up_2: And if you want to multiply two vectors between one another, there's the dot product.
2019-01-29T04:56:01.203000
Antonette
elmlang
general
:slightly_smiling_face:
2019-01-29T04:56:03.203200
Antonette
elmlang
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(does it answer your question?)
2019-01-29T04:56:56.203400
Antonette
elmlang
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wait... I'll respond in a sec
2019-01-29T05:00:30.203600
Earnestine
elmlang
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related: <https://github.com/elm/projects#in-browser-repl>
2019-01-29T05:02:21.203800
Velia
elmlang
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:slightly_smiling_face:
2019-01-29T05:03:17.204000
Antonette
elmlang
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Nice link. Thanks.
2019-01-29T05:04:02.204200
Dorsey
elmlang
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Ok, I see. I already assumed there's a reason. But in practice, how would you do this: ``` mousePos : Vec2 resolution : Vec2 normalizedMousePos : Vec2 normalizedMousePos = ? ``` of course, I can write a helper: ``` v2div : Vec2 -&gt; Vec2 -&gt; Vec2 v2div v1 v2 = vec2 (V2.getX v1 / V2.getX v2) (V2.getY v1 / V2.getY v2) ``` and then say: ``` normalizedMousePos = v2div mousePos resoltution ``` but maybe there's a better way..
2019-01-29T05:07:46.204400
Earnestine
elmlang
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Well, there is :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-01-29T05:17:54.204800
Antonette
elmlang
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cool, looking forward to hear...
2019-01-29T05:18:34.205000
Earnestine
elmlang
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(or maybe not ; I'm not sure ; just a sec)
2019-01-29T05:18:55.205200
Antonette
elmlang
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Maybe I wouldn't use `normalize` in the name ; `normalize` already exists and consists in turning a vector of arbitrary length into a unit vector (length == 1) without changing its angle.
2019-01-29T05:20:08.205400
Antonette
elmlang
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Except for that, your v2div function is fine if that's what you want to achieve (i.e. having a vector representing the coordinates of the mouse relative to the screen width and height).
2019-01-29T05:21:20.205600
Antonette
elmlang
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I'm a little curious as to what you're trying to achieve with this, but if it makes sense in your situation, go for it :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-01-29T05:22:01.205900
Antonette
elmlang
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(and since there's no pre-built way to do this in the package, so there's no better way than your way as far as I know)
2019-01-29T05:24:02.206100
Antonette
elmlang
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Hello
2019-01-29T05:24:21.206400
Sadie
elmlang
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I am trying to port kallaspriit/elm-basic-auth to Elm 0.19
2019-01-29T05:24:35.206700
Sadie
elmlang
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It is working up to the elm-test part <https://github.com/kallaspriit/elm-basic-auth/pull/2>
2019-01-29T05:24:47.207100
Sadie
elmlang
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As for the naming, maybe `relativeMousePos` would make more sense.
2019-01-29T05:25:02.207200
Antonette
elmlang
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When I run it I get: ``` elm-basic-auth$ elm-test elm-test internal error: got an unexpected result from 'elm make' when validating transitive dependencies. Please report this at <https://github.com/rtfeldman/node-test-runner/issues> ```
2019-01-29T05:25:11.207600
Sadie
elmlang
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If I try to run elm-make on the file I get ``` $ elm make tests/Tests.elm -- UNKNOWN IMPORT ---------------------------------------------- tests/Tests.elm The Tests module has a bad import: import Test I cannot find that module! Is there a typo in the module name? When creating a package, all modules must live in the src/ directory. ```
2019-01-29T05:25:41.208000
Sadie
elmlang
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I tried: ``` $ elm install elm-explorations/test I found it in your elm.json file, but in the "test-dependencies" field. Should I move it into "dependencies" for more general use? [Y/n]: Dependencies loaded from local cache. Dependencies ready! rhubscher@NATIM-ThinkPad-T470s:~/elm/elm-basic-auth$ elm make tests/Tests.elm Dependencies loaded from local cache. Dependencies ready! Success! Compiled 2 modules. ```
2019-01-29T05:26:16.208300
Sadie
elmlang
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So I am a bit lost
2019-01-29T05:26:22.208600
Sadie
elmlang
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any idea ?
2019-01-29T05:26:24.208800
Sadie
elmlang
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you don't `make` your tests, you need the `elm-test` npm package.
2019-01-29T05:50:40.209300
Danika
elmlang
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<https://www.npmjs.com/package/elm-test>
2019-01-29T05:51:09.209400
Danika
elmlang
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This makes me think there's something funky with the elm.json or elm-stuff
2019-01-29T06:09:01.209800
Bert
elmlang
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Did you try removing elm-stuff and re-running elm-test?
2019-01-29T06:09:29.210000
Bert
elmlang
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That is what they are running (see the first code block)
2019-01-29T06:10:45.210200
Bert
elmlang
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Oh yeah, oops!
2019-01-29T06:25:08.210400
Danika
elmlang
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mhhh... this is a bit unconvenient... From other languages I'm used to have this functions.. Having a `map` function would not be bad as well... Maybe a `linear-algebra-extra` package would make sense (?)
2019-01-29T06:29:07.210700
Earnestine
elmlang
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Sure :slightly_smiling_face: you can even propose it if you like (and don't find it already existing of course).
2019-01-29T06:30:15.210900
Antonette
elmlang
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Also, it's possible to suggest a contribution to the existing package (through a pull request for example, maybe with an issue to start the conversation less abruptly).
2019-01-29T06:31:20.211100
Antonette
elmlang
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But before that, there's nothing wrong with creating these functions in the scope of your project (they'll even give you the basic code if you want to send a PR or something).
2019-01-29T06:32:00.211300
Antonette
elmlang
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jepp, also possible...
2019-01-29T06:32:08.211500
Earnestine
elmlang
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or is there maybe a way to archive the thing by using the Matrix module from the package?
2019-01-29T06:32:43.211700
Earnestine
elmlang
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I would start there if I were you, if only to get familiar with it.
2019-01-29T06:33:32.211900
Antonette
elmlang
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Hi, I am using this package <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/browser/latest/Browser-Events> to grab onMouseMove events
2019-01-29T06:57:44.213300
Cameron
elmlang
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but I would like to get position information and there is no documentation in the module's documentation on how is it possible to get position information out of the onMouseMoveEvent for example
2019-01-29T06:58:56.214600
Cameron
elmlang
general
anybody got any idea ?
2019-01-29T06:59:00.214800
Cameron
elmlang
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<@Cameron> the idea of that API is that you provide a `Json.Decode.Decoder` that can grab the values you're interested in from the event object.
2019-01-29T07:00:36.216500
Earlean
elmlang
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<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Events/mousemove> is the documentation for the DOM mousemove event
2019-01-29T07:01:29.217800
Earlean
elmlang
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<@Earlean> thanks for your response but it's wird because to decode the values I need to now how the Java script event object looks like
2019-01-29T07:01:36.218100
Cameron
elmlang
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Oh now I get it
2019-01-29T07:02:20.218700
Cameron
elmlang
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<@Cameron> easiest is to just type `addEventListener("click", console.log)` in the console :wink:
2019-01-29T07:07:11.220100
Nana
elmlang
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then you can just click on stuff and inspect the event object
2019-01-29T07:07:39.220500
Nana
elmlang
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<@Nana> I think I am going to start with this aproach to get a better feeling thanks really apriciate your help
2019-01-29T07:08:50.221600
Cameron
elmlang
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How often do you all pick apart the `(model, cmd)` return pair once constructed?
2019-01-29T08:20:40.226400
Saran
elmlang
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Seldom
2019-01-29T08:21:21.226600
Lynne
elmlang
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Hey Folks! What's your go-to style for conditionally append items to a list? something like ``` case (a. b) of (False, False) -&gt; [ a, b, c ] (False, True) -&gt; [ a, b, c, y ] (True, False) -&gt; [ a, b, c, y ] (True, True) -&gt; [ a, b, c, x, y] ``` I usually if/case with the different lists, but that may lead to a lot of duplication for the common static element of the lists; I saw people having a list of `(Boolean, A)` or `Maybe A` and then call `List.filter`. What do you use? :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-01-29T11:40:43.237400
Lilli
elmlang
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I'd go for list of maybes
2019-01-29T11:41:29.237800
Kris
elmlang
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Hey <@Lilli> :slightly_smiling_face: I usually go for the `List (Maybe a)` (usually more readable imo) ; you may want to use `Maybe.Extra.values : List (Maybe a) -&gt; List a` that does pretty much what you would expect from its type signature.
2019-01-29T11:46:26.239600
Antonette
elmlang
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<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm-community/maybe-extra/latest/Maybe-Extra#values>
2019-01-29T11:48:44.241200
Antonette
elmlang
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<@Antonette> yea, i don't use it much because when you have a lot of common items you just end with too many "Just", in my example `[a, b, c]` are always there. But there are cases where it's super convenient and easy to read aswell
2019-01-29T11:49:28.241700
Lilli
elmlang
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The way I do it to avoid clutter is like: ``` [ somethingAlwaysThere |&gt; Just , somethingAlsoAlwaysThere |&gt; Just , somethingOptional ] ```
2019-01-29T11:50:53.243100
Antonette
elmlang
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<@Lilli> wow I don't understand what that's supposed to do at all :sweat_smile:
2019-01-29T11:51:02.243300
Nana
elmlang
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that alone won't do anything :smile: it's just a matter of coding style
2019-01-29T11:52:08.243400
Lilli
elmlang
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that's cute actually :smile:
2019-01-29T11:52:35.243600
Lilli
elmlang
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ah I think I get it now, so would you do like that if you wanted do conditionally show an element, or conditionally add a style?
2019-01-29T11:54:42.243800
Nana
elmlang
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yea, conditionally show elements, add classes, add rows to a table. Those are all possible applications
2019-01-29T11:56:15.244000
Lilli
elmlang
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yeah it's tricky to make that look neat, often ends up messy
2019-01-29T11:57:19.244200
Nana
elmlang
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The cutest I ever came up with in that situation :wink:
2019-01-29T11:58:09.245000
Antonette
elmlang
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I also do `List (Maybe a)` w/ filtermap, but you could also do something like ``` let extras = if List.all identity [a,b] then [x, y] else if List.any identity [a,b] then [y] else [] in [a,b,c] ++ extras ``` Or even just filtermap the optionals and append them
2019-01-29T12:00:16.247500
Earnest
elmlang
general
I usually do something like ``` [a, b, c] ++ (if something then [x, y] else [] ) ```
2019-01-29T12:00:55.248300
Nana
elmlang
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I did that for a while, but I find it less readable most of the times.
2019-01-29T12:01:02.248400
Antonette
elmlang
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Aaaaand that is pretty ugly, no offense.
2019-01-29T12:01:23.248600
Antonette
elmlang
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yes it is :laughing:
2019-01-29T12:01:45.248800
Nana
elmlang
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the thing [a,b,c] ++ extra ends up messy when the contidion if no straight forward. At least in my experience :smile:
2019-01-29T12:02:52.249000
Lilli
elmlang
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Yep. Even worse when you want the extra to appear at specific points. Even worse when there are lots of them.
2019-01-29T12:05:38.250300
Antonette
elmlang
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At that point I'd start writing functions that handle the conditional testing or switch to Maybe
2019-01-29T12:06:09.251000
Earnest
elmlang
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And yeah if you need optional things in arbitrary positions instead of beginning or end, just use the filterMap
2019-01-29T12:06:34.251600
Earnest
elmlang
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sometimes i also do something like this ``` [ (a, True) , (b, True) , (c, True) , (x, #someCondition) , (y, #someOtherCondition) ] |&gt; filterMap filterHelper ``` This way it's easy to read when things should be there or not
2019-01-29T12:07:32.253300
Lilli
elmlang
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for html nodes in particular I have this function though: ``` nodeIf : Bool -&gt; Html msg -&gt; Html msg nodeIf condition ifTrue = if condition then ifTrue else text "" ``` it's kinda nice I think
2019-01-29T12:07:49.253700
Nana
elmlang
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You can also do `|&gt; List.filter Tuple.second |&gt; List.map Tupel.first` instead of writing `filterHelper`
2019-01-29T12:09:08.255100
Earnest
elmlang
general
so you can just do: ``` div [] [ text "hello" , text "world" , nodeIf model.show (text "foo") ] ```
2019-01-29T12:09:22.255600
Nana
elmlang
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Yeah that's common, also a `nodeMaybe : Maybe a -&gt; (a -&gt; Html msg) -&gt; Html msg`
2019-01-29T12:09:39.256000
Earnest
elmlang
general
in this case you can have a neutral element `text ""` but sometimes there is no such element :sweat_smile: but yea, this is the same approach of Maybe X, where the neutral element is Nothing
2019-01-29T12:10:06.256200
Lilli
elmlang
general
Looks pretty ok too :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-01-29T12:10:43.256900
Antonette
elmlang
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I've been thinking, I wonder if it'd be neater if html node/attribute lists were trees instead of lists, which were automatically flattened in the end
2019-01-29T12:11:05.257400
Nana
elmlang
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or if Elm had a "list spread operator" like `...` in JavaScript
2019-01-29T12:11:59.258100
Nana
elmlang
general
a list spread operator would be pretty nice I think!
2019-01-29T12:12:46.258400
Nana
elmlang
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I'm not a fan of "polluting" the dom tree with useless nodes ; at least the `List (Maybe a)` doesn't introduce long-living `Nothing` elements in a deep structure.
2019-01-29T12:12:53.258500
Antonette
elmlang
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Still, if there was a value that says "this is technically an `Html msg` but don't put it in the dom tree please" I'd rather use that than a `List (Maybe a)`.
2019-01-29T12:14:48.260300
Antonette
elmlang
general
(like an `Hml.none` or something)
2019-01-29T12:15:15.261100
Antonette
elmlang
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<@Rutha> never thought of that. So far i never encountered a situation where a tree would be clearer to read compared to a list
2019-01-29T12:15:16.261300
Lilli
elmlang
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then you could do: ``` [ a , b , c , ... (if condition then [x, y] else [] ) ] ```
2019-01-29T12:15:26.261500
Nana
elmlang
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Hmm. That's a great feature to have actually.
2019-01-29T12:15:55.262300
Antonette
elmlang
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nodes _are_ trees :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-01-29T12:16:27.264100
Carman