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hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw4yh4s | fw4fd4o | 1,593,232,367 | 1,593,219,782 | 2 | 1 | Unpopular opinion: I went looking for my voice and found it | What people mean by voice is using subjectivity when you write. No one has a unique voice because different voices are necessary in different contexts. A good writer can pick and choose what tools they use and when. Voice is only one tool in the box. | 1 | 12,585 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw4yh4s | fw4h7x8 | 1,593,232,367 | 1,593,220,933 | 2 | 1 | Unpopular opinion: I went looking for my voice and found it | Every artist you know is just a mix from the artists they look upon. I'm pretty sure its the same in every art, not just drawing/painting. | 1 | 11,434 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw4zaf7 | fw4fd4o | 1,593,232,979 | 1,593,219,782 | 2 | 1 | I though finding ones voice just meant the state where you'd learned enough and had enough practice to be called good? | What people mean by voice is using subjectivity when you write. No one has a unique voice because different voices are necessary in different contexts. A good writer can pick and choose what tools they use and when. Voice is only one tool in the box. | 1 | 13,197 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw4h7x8 | fw4zaf7 | 1,593,220,933 | 1,593,232,979 | 1 | 2 | Every artist you know is just a mix from the artists they look upon. I'm pretty sure its the same in every art, not just drawing/painting. | I though finding ones voice just meant the state where you'd learned enough and had enough practice to be called good? | 0 | 12,046 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw60uj4 | fw4fd4o | 1,593,266,547 | 1,593,219,782 | 2 | 1 | The way I see it, 'finding your voice' happens when two conditions are met: 1. "I finally know what I really want to say." So at a certain point, you know what you really feel like banging on about. You just really want to scare the shit out of people with your horror stories. You want to write comedy that will leave them on the floor trying to keep their ribs in line. You want to write crystal-clear essays on great Renaissance artists. Whatever it is, it's your jam. 2. "I finally have the technique to say what I really want to say. I know what works for me and what doesn't, and it's as natural for me as breathing." You may have spent a minute or two trying on Hemingway terseness, or Elmore Leonard and Quentin Tarantino snappy dialogue, or Joycean digression, but now you trust your instinct and experience to create the effect upon the reader that Condition 1 demands. Both these things take time; it's very unusual for someone to emerge as a fully formed artist. You have your message, your viewpoint; and you have technical control. That's your voice. It may resemble this or that writer; it may be unlike any other. But you know how to be heard by those who will listen. | What people mean by voice is using subjectivity when you write. No one has a unique voice because different voices are necessary in different contexts. A good writer can pick and choose what tools they use and when. Voice is only one tool in the box. | 1 | 46,765 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw4h7x8 | fw60uj4 | 1,593,220,933 | 1,593,266,547 | 1 | 2 | Every artist you know is just a mix from the artists they look upon. I'm pretty sure its the same in every art, not just drawing/painting. | The way I see it, 'finding your voice' happens when two conditions are met: 1. "I finally know what I really want to say." So at a certain point, you know what you really feel like banging on about. You just really want to scare the shit out of people with your horror stories. You want to write comedy that will leave them on the floor trying to keep their ribs in line. You want to write crystal-clear essays on great Renaissance artists. Whatever it is, it's your jam. 2. "I finally have the technique to say what I really want to say. I know what works for me and what doesn't, and it's as natural for me as breathing." You may have spent a minute or two trying on Hemingway terseness, or Elmore Leonard and Quentin Tarantino snappy dialogue, or Joycean digression, but now you trust your instinct and experience to create the effect upon the reader that Condition 1 demands. Both these things take time; it's very unusual for someone to emerge as a fully formed artist. You have your message, your viewpoint; and you have technical control. That's your voice. It may resemble this or that writer; it may be unlike any other. But you know how to be heard by those who will listen. | 0 | 45,614 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw60uj4 | fw53lky | 1,593,266,547 | 1,593,236,431 | 2 | 1 | The way I see it, 'finding your voice' happens when two conditions are met: 1. "I finally know what I really want to say." So at a certain point, you know what you really feel like banging on about. You just really want to scare the shit out of people with your horror stories. You want to write comedy that will leave them on the floor trying to keep their ribs in line. You want to write crystal-clear essays on great Renaissance artists. Whatever it is, it's your jam. 2. "I finally have the technique to say what I really want to say. I know what works for me and what doesn't, and it's as natural for me as breathing." You may have spent a minute or two trying on Hemingway terseness, or Elmore Leonard and Quentin Tarantino snappy dialogue, or Joycean digression, but now you trust your instinct and experience to create the effect upon the reader that Condition 1 demands. Both these things take time; it's very unusual for someone to emerge as a fully formed artist. You have your message, your viewpoint; and you have technical control. That's your voice. It may resemble this or that writer; it may be unlike any other. But you know how to be heard by those who will listen. | Could not agree more, thanks for sharing :) | 1 | 30,116 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw60uj4 | fw5765f | 1,593,266,547 | 1,593,239,561 | 2 | 1 | The way I see it, 'finding your voice' happens when two conditions are met: 1. "I finally know what I really want to say." So at a certain point, you know what you really feel like banging on about. You just really want to scare the shit out of people with your horror stories. You want to write comedy that will leave them on the floor trying to keep their ribs in line. You want to write crystal-clear essays on great Renaissance artists. Whatever it is, it's your jam. 2. "I finally have the technique to say what I really want to say. I know what works for me and what doesn't, and it's as natural for me as breathing." You may have spent a minute or two trying on Hemingway terseness, or Elmore Leonard and Quentin Tarantino snappy dialogue, or Joycean digression, but now you trust your instinct and experience to create the effect upon the reader that Condition 1 demands. Both these things take time; it's very unusual for someone to emerge as a fully formed artist. You have your message, your viewpoint; and you have technical control. That's your voice. It may resemble this or that writer; it may be unlike any other. But you know how to be heard by those who will listen. | The same thing with singing | 1 | 26,986 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw60uj4 | fw5ayyn | 1,593,266,547 | 1,593,243,194 | 2 | 1 | The way I see it, 'finding your voice' happens when two conditions are met: 1. "I finally know what I really want to say." So at a certain point, you know what you really feel like banging on about. You just really want to scare the shit out of people with your horror stories. You want to write comedy that will leave them on the floor trying to keep their ribs in line. You want to write crystal-clear essays on great Renaissance artists. Whatever it is, it's your jam. 2. "I finally have the technique to say what I really want to say. I know what works for me and what doesn't, and it's as natural for me as breathing." You may have spent a minute or two trying on Hemingway terseness, or Elmore Leonard and Quentin Tarantino snappy dialogue, or Joycean digression, but now you trust your instinct and experience to create the effect upon the reader that Condition 1 demands. Both these things take time; it's very unusual for someone to emerge as a fully formed artist. You have your message, your viewpoint; and you have technical control. That's your voice. It may resemble this or that writer; it may be unlike any other. But you know how to be heard by those who will listen. | The most overrated thing I’ve seen in some time. | 1 | 23,353 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw6c5m2 | fw4fd4o | 1,593,273,189 | 1,593,219,782 | 2 | 1 | I'm published and this is still some of the best advice I have ever read when it comes to writing. | What people mean by voice is using subjectivity when you write. No one has a unique voice because different voices are necessary in different contexts. A good writer can pick and choose what tools they use and when. Voice is only one tool in the box. | 1 | 53,407 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw6c5m2 | fw4h7x8 | 1,593,273,189 | 1,593,220,933 | 2 | 1 | I'm published and this is still some of the best advice I have ever read when it comes to writing. | Every artist you know is just a mix from the artists they look upon. I'm pretty sure its the same in every art, not just drawing/painting. | 1 | 52,256 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw6c5m2 | fw53lky | 1,593,273,189 | 1,593,236,431 | 2 | 1 | I'm published and this is still some of the best advice I have ever read when it comes to writing. | Could not agree more, thanks for sharing :) | 1 | 36,758 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw6c5m2 | fw5765f | 1,593,273,189 | 1,593,239,561 | 2 | 1 | I'm published and this is still some of the best advice I have ever read when it comes to writing. | The same thing with singing | 1 | 33,628 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw5ayyn | fw6c5m2 | 1,593,243,194 | 1,593,273,189 | 1 | 2 | The most overrated thing I’ve seen in some time. | I'm published and this is still some of the best advice I have ever read when it comes to writing. | 0 | 29,995 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw7ptgu | fw4fd4o | 1,593,299,773 | 1,593,219,782 | 2 | 1 | Why are so many writers trying to find their voice? Are they mute? Did they hurt their voice box? Maybe that's why they write so much. | What people mean by voice is using subjectivity when you write. No one has a unique voice because different voices are necessary in different contexts. A good writer can pick and choose what tools they use and when. Voice is only one tool in the box. | 1 | 79,991 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw4h7x8 | fw7ptgu | 1,593,220,933 | 1,593,299,773 | 1 | 2 | Every artist you know is just a mix from the artists they look upon. I'm pretty sure its the same in every art, not just drawing/painting. | Why are so many writers trying to find their voice? Are they mute? Did they hurt their voice box? Maybe that's why they write so much. | 0 | 78,840 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw53lky | fw7ptgu | 1,593,236,431 | 1,593,299,773 | 1 | 2 | Could not agree more, thanks for sharing :) | Why are so many writers trying to find their voice? Are they mute? Did they hurt their voice box? Maybe that's why they write so much. | 0 | 63,342 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw5765f | fw7ptgu | 1,593,239,561 | 1,593,299,773 | 1 | 2 | The same thing with singing | Why are so many writers trying to find their voice? Are they mute? Did they hurt their voice box? Maybe that's why they write so much. | 0 | 60,212 | 2 | ||
hghi1u | writing_train | 0.97 | Quit looking for your voice, you'll never find it! I recently stumbled upon an article online titled, "Quit Looking for Your Voice, You'll Never Find It." The author took the approach that the so-called "greatest writing advice ever: find your voice" is a load of hubbub and a distraction from your work. They postulate that we're all born with a unique voice. There's no voice-forest where they grow in abundance and we go pick the ones that conform to what we like. Therefore, the best writing advice ever is: write every chance you get - hone the voice you were given. They recognize the advice may not inherently be literal, but to many aspiring writers it can seem a little ambiguous, if not intimidating. I appreciate the advice because I too have been in that boat of searching for my voice. I'd compile the greatest authors I know and extract what I can from the way they write. That's not necessarily bad, but spending too much time studying left me with little time to practice. I know Im not alone. To the aspiring writers in this sub, the best thing you can do is continue to write until your fingers bleed. Your voice is already there, you just need to strengthen it! | fw7ptgu | fw5ayyn | 1,593,299,773 | 1,593,243,194 | 2 | 1 | Why are so many writers trying to find their voice? Are they mute? Did they hurt their voice box? Maybe that's why they write so much. | The most overrated thing I’ve seen in some time. | 1 | 56,579 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icexe65 | icez48g | 1,655,264,536 | 1,655,265,515 | 15 | 26 | In the beginning, there was The Words. The Words were with the Author. The Words were IN the Author. And, the Author said, "Let there be Write!" And, he did write. And, the Author looked at what he had written, and saw that it was... well, OK, he guessed. But, he could do better. And, the Author said, "Let there be Edit!" And, he did edit. And, the Author looked at what he had edited, and saw that it was... better, but now it needs a full going over again. And, the Author said, "Let there be Second Draft!" And, he did have another beer. | Haha this seems kinda baity, but I'll bite and assume its real. Two main types of writers, I've noticed. 1) Planners - Have a graph, a plot, multiple folders, and an excel sheet. Know exactly what they want, what each character is going to do, and a specific route that they won't deviate from. 2) Dreamers - The "write as you go" aka "word vomit". You just.... write. Don't think about it being good or bad, and just write. After a few chapters, or after the entire book, you go back and edit it to be pretty. The story itself mostly evolves as you go, even if you have a final point you're aiming for. | 0 | 979 | 1.733333 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices683 | icez48g | 1,655,261,755 | 1,655,265,515 | 8 | 26 | 1. Write the story. 2. ? 3. Profit. | Haha this seems kinda baity, but I'll bite and assume its real. Two main types of writers, I've noticed. 1) Planners - Have a graph, a plot, multiple folders, and an excel sheet. Know exactly what they want, what each character is going to do, and a specific route that they won't deviate from. 2) Dreamers - The "write as you go" aka "word vomit". You just.... write. Don't think about it being good or bad, and just write. After a few chapters, or after the entire book, you go back and edit it to be pretty. The story itself mostly evolves as you go, even if you have a final point you're aiming for. | 0 | 3,760 | 3.25 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icez48g | icewd76 | 1,655,265,515 | 1,655,263,978 | 26 | 2 | Haha this seems kinda baity, but I'll bite and assume its real. Two main types of writers, I've noticed. 1) Planners - Have a graph, a plot, multiple folders, and an excel sheet. Know exactly what they want, what each character is going to do, and a specific route that they won't deviate from. 2) Dreamers - The "write as you go" aka "word vomit". You just.... write. Don't think about it being good or bad, and just write. After a few chapters, or after the entire book, you go back and edit it to be pretty. The story itself mostly evolves as you go, even if you have a final point you're aiming for. | It's really up to you and what you feel is best for your style of focus and writing. I generally start by writing out my characters and what their specific goals are(what they need to achieve by the end), then doing things like plot structure or chapter sequence for full length novels. Some people don't work like that, though. If you're the type of person that needs to jump into things in order to find the motivation, then go for it and don't get too consumed in the details. | 1 | 1,537 | 13 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icexjg0 | icez48g | 1,655,264,618 | 1,655,265,515 | 2 | 26 | When I come up with a story idea I sit down and write as much as I can following the idea wherever it takes me. I usually read it the next day and sit on it for a week mulling over the tone/plot/characters and which direction each is pointed in from that initial session. For me, the first few paragraphs and chapter set up everything to follow so I always want those to be "perfect" in a sense. Think of the first bit, the amount you can sit and write in say half an hour, as the beginning of a hiking trail. All you have to do is follow the trail and make some minor adjustments to hit points along the way that you wish to. | Haha this seems kinda baity, but I'll bite and assume its real. Two main types of writers, I've noticed. 1) Planners - Have a graph, a plot, multiple folders, and an excel sheet. Know exactly what they want, what each character is going to do, and a specific route that they won't deviate from. 2) Dreamers - The "write as you go" aka "word vomit". You just.... write. Don't think about it being good or bad, and just write. After a few chapters, or after the entire book, you go back and edit it to be pretty. The story itself mostly evolves as you go, even if you have a final point you're aiming for. | 0 | 897 | 13 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | iceqofe | icez48g | 1,655,260,988 | 1,655,265,515 | 1 | 26 | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | Haha this seems kinda baity, but I'll bite and assume its real. Two main types of writers, I've noticed. 1) Planners - Have a graph, a plot, multiple folders, and an excel sheet. Know exactly what they want, what each character is going to do, and a specific route that they won't deviate from. 2) Dreamers - The "write as you go" aka "word vomit". You just.... write. Don't think about it being good or bad, and just write. After a few chapters, or after the entire book, you go back and edit it to be pretty. The story itself mostly evolves as you go, even if you have a final point you're aiming for. | 0 | 4,527 | 26 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icez48g | ices6xp | 1,655,265,515 | 1,655,261,766 | 26 | 0 | Haha this seems kinda baity, but I'll bite and assume its real. Two main types of writers, I've noticed. 1) Planners - Have a graph, a plot, multiple folders, and an excel sheet. Know exactly what they want, what each character is going to do, and a specific route that they won't deviate from. 2) Dreamers - The "write as you go" aka "word vomit". You just.... write. Don't think about it being good or bad, and just write. After a few chapters, or after the entire book, you go back and edit it to be pretty. The story itself mostly evolves as you go, even if you have a final point you're aiming for. | Bruh... | 1 | 3,749 | 26,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icexe65 | ices683 | 1,655,264,536 | 1,655,261,755 | 15 | 8 | In the beginning, there was The Words. The Words were with the Author. The Words were IN the Author. And, the Author said, "Let there be Write!" And, he did write. And, the Author looked at what he had written, and saw that it was... well, OK, he guessed. But, he could do better. And, the Author said, "Let there be Edit!" And, he did edit. And, the Author looked at what he had edited, and saw that it was... better, but now it needs a full going over again. And, the Author said, "Let there be Second Draft!" And, he did have another beer. | 1. Write the story. 2. ? 3. Profit. | 1 | 2,781 | 1.875 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icewd76 | icexe65 | 1,655,263,978 | 1,655,264,536 | 2 | 15 | It's really up to you and what you feel is best for your style of focus and writing. I generally start by writing out my characters and what their specific goals are(what they need to achieve by the end), then doing things like plot structure or chapter sequence for full length novels. Some people don't work like that, though. If you're the type of person that needs to jump into things in order to find the motivation, then go for it and don't get too consumed in the details. | In the beginning, there was The Words. The Words were with the Author. The Words were IN the Author. And, the Author said, "Let there be Write!" And, he did write. And, the Author looked at what he had written, and saw that it was... well, OK, he guessed. But, he could do better. And, the Author said, "Let there be Edit!" And, he did edit. And, the Author looked at what he had edited, and saw that it was... better, but now it needs a full going over again. And, the Author said, "Let there be Second Draft!" And, he did have another beer. | 0 | 558 | 7.5 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | iceqofe | icexe65 | 1,655,260,988 | 1,655,264,536 | 1 | 15 | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | In the beginning, there was The Words. The Words were with the Author. The Words were IN the Author. And, the Author said, "Let there be Write!" And, he did write. And, the Author looked at what he had written, and saw that it was... well, OK, he guessed. But, he could do better. And, the Author said, "Let there be Edit!" And, he did edit. And, the Author looked at what he had edited, and saw that it was... better, but now it needs a full going over again. And, the Author said, "Let there be Second Draft!" And, he did have another beer. | 0 | 3,548 | 15 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icexe65 | ices6xp | 1,655,264,536 | 1,655,261,766 | 15 | 0 | In the beginning, there was The Words. The Words were with the Author. The Words were IN the Author. And, the Author said, "Let there be Write!" And, he did write. And, the Author looked at what he had written, and saw that it was... well, OK, he guessed. But, he could do better. And, the Author said, "Let there be Edit!" And, he did edit. And, the Author looked at what he had edited, and saw that it was... better, but now it needs a full going over again. And, the Author said, "Let there be Second Draft!" And, he did have another beer. | Bruh... | 1 | 2,770 | 15,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices683 | icf89fg | 1,655,261,755 | 1,655,271,423 | 8 | 10 | 1. Write the story. 2. ? 3. Profit. | Depends on your mental process prior to wanting to start to write the story. Do you think about it all the time. Do you have scenes that have played out vividly in your head and you just need to fill in the blanks? Try just writing one of those scenes. I've been playing with what I'm calling 'campfire outlines' It's where I tell (myself) a condensed version of my story as if I were telling it to people while sitting around a campfire. This is because this is both the origin of storytelling, and it helps me figure out the story with broad strokes, and then it acts as an outline. THEN it gives me questions. "Well, what happened between scene B and C!? Well, that's what writing a novel is about. | 0 | 9,668 | 1.25 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icf89fg | icewd76 | 1,655,271,423 | 1,655,263,978 | 10 | 2 | Depends on your mental process prior to wanting to start to write the story. Do you think about it all the time. Do you have scenes that have played out vividly in your head and you just need to fill in the blanks? Try just writing one of those scenes. I've been playing with what I'm calling 'campfire outlines' It's where I tell (myself) a condensed version of my story as if I were telling it to people while sitting around a campfire. This is because this is both the origin of storytelling, and it helps me figure out the story with broad strokes, and then it acts as an outline. THEN it gives me questions. "Well, what happened between scene B and C!? Well, that's what writing a novel is about. | It's really up to you and what you feel is best for your style of focus and writing. I generally start by writing out my characters and what their specific goals are(what they need to achieve by the end), then doing things like plot structure or chapter sequence for full length novels. Some people don't work like that, though. If you're the type of person that needs to jump into things in order to find the motivation, then go for it and don't get too consumed in the details. | 1 | 7,445 | 5 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icf89fg | icexjg0 | 1,655,271,423 | 1,655,264,618 | 10 | 2 | Depends on your mental process prior to wanting to start to write the story. Do you think about it all the time. Do you have scenes that have played out vividly in your head and you just need to fill in the blanks? Try just writing one of those scenes. I've been playing with what I'm calling 'campfire outlines' It's where I tell (myself) a condensed version of my story as if I were telling it to people while sitting around a campfire. This is because this is both the origin of storytelling, and it helps me figure out the story with broad strokes, and then it acts as an outline. THEN it gives me questions. "Well, what happened between scene B and C!? Well, that's what writing a novel is about. | When I come up with a story idea I sit down and write as much as I can following the idea wherever it takes me. I usually read it the next day and sit on it for a week mulling over the tone/plot/characters and which direction each is pointed in from that initial session. For me, the first few paragraphs and chapter set up everything to follow so I always want those to be "perfect" in a sense. Think of the first bit, the amount you can sit and write in say half an hour, as the beginning of a hiking trail. All you have to do is follow the trail and make some minor adjustments to hit points along the way that you wish to. | 1 | 6,805 | 5 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icf89fg | iceqofe | 1,655,271,423 | 1,655,260,988 | 10 | 1 | Depends on your mental process prior to wanting to start to write the story. Do you think about it all the time. Do you have scenes that have played out vividly in your head and you just need to fill in the blanks? Try just writing one of those scenes. I've been playing with what I'm calling 'campfire outlines' It's where I tell (myself) a condensed version of my story as if I were telling it to people while sitting around a campfire. This is because this is both the origin of storytelling, and it helps me figure out the story with broad strokes, and then it acts as an outline. THEN it gives me questions. "Well, what happened between scene B and C!? Well, that's what writing a novel is about. | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | 1 | 10,435 | 10 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icf89fg | ices6xp | 1,655,271,423 | 1,655,261,766 | 10 | 0 | Depends on your mental process prior to wanting to start to write the story. Do you think about it all the time. Do you have scenes that have played out vividly in your head and you just need to fill in the blanks? Try just writing one of those scenes. I've been playing with what I'm calling 'campfire outlines' It's where I tell (myself) a condensed version of my story as if I were telling it to people while sitting around a campfire. This is because this is both the origin of storytelling, and it helps me figure out the story with broad strokes, and then it acts as an outline. THEN it gives me questions. "Well, what happened between scene B and C!? Well, that's what writing a novel is about. | Bruh... | 1 | 9,657 | 10,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | iceqofe | ices683 | 1,655,260,988 | 1,655,261,755 | 1 | 8 | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | 1. Write the story. 2. ? 3. Profit. | 0 | 767 | 8 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icewd76 | iceqofe | 1,655,263,978 | 1,655,260,988 | 2 | 1 | It's really up to you and what you feel is best for your style of focus and writing. I generally start by writing out my characters and what their specific goals are(what they need to achieve by the end), then doing things like plot structure or chapter sequence for full length novels. Some people don't work like that, though. If you're the type of person that needs to jump into things in order to find the motivation, then go for it and don't get too consumed in the details. | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | 1 | 2,990 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices6xp | icewd76 | 1,655,261,766 | 1,655,263,978 | 0 | 2 | Bruh... | It's really up to you and what you feel is best for your style of focus and writing. I generally start by writing out my characters and what their specific goals are(what they need to achieve by the end), then doing things like plot structure or chapter sequence for full length novels. Some people don't work like that, though. If you're the type of person that needs to jump into things in order to find the motivation, then go for it and don't get too consumed in the details. | 0 | 2,212 | 2,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icexjg0 | iceqofe | 1,655,264,618 | 1,655,260,988 | 2 | 1 | When I come up with a story idea I sit down and write as much as I can following the idea wherever it takes me. I usually read it the next day and sit on it for a week mulling over the tone/plot/characters and which direction each is pointed in from that initial session. For me, the first few paragraphs and chapter set up everything to follow so I always want those to be "perfect" in a sense. Think of the first bit, the amount you can sit and write in say half an hour, as the beginning of a hiking trail. All you have to do is follow the trail and make some minor adjustments to hit points along the way that you wish to. | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | 1 | 3,630 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icexjg0 | ices6xp | 1,655,264,618 | 1,655,261,766 | 2 | 0 | When I come up with a story idea I sit down and write as much as I can following the idea wherever it takes me. I usually read it the next day and sit on it for a week mulling over the tone/plot/characters and which direction each is pointed in from that initial session. For me, the first few paragraphs and chapter set up everything to follow so I always want those to be "perfect" in a sense. Think of the first bit, the amount you can sit and write in say half an hour, as the beginning of a hiking trail. All you have to do is follow the trail and make some minor adjustments to hit points along the way that you wish to. | Bruh... | 1 | 2,852 | 2,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | iceqofe | icf9r4h | 1,655,260,988 | 1,655,272,508 | 1 | 2 | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | You first step is to consistently finish your sentences with a punctuation. | 0 | 11,520 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icf9r4h | ices6xp | 1,655,272,508 | 1,655,261,766 | 2 | 0 | You first step is to consistently finish your sentences with a punctuation. | Bruh... | 1 | 10,742 | 2,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | iceqofe | icf9vb4 | 1,655,260,988 | 1,655,272,594 | 1 | 2 | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | The first question has to be "Why are you writing a story to begin with?" If you have a blank page and no inkling of why you actually want to write a story there's little help to be had. But let's assume there is a bug up a rear, some notion or idea that begs for a story even if we don't know what the story is. We need characters that want something and we need conflicts or oppositions that coincide/intersect with what characters want. None of that need be direct---the conflicts could be more thematic than plot-related (but I would still need character-associated conflicts that drive the plot if that's the case)---but what we are looking for is the motivator that powers us through writing the story. Themes and the right characterization might emerge if we light on a plot idea that gets us going. Conversely, letting an already-conceived character lead us as they grapple with a conflict/opposition/theme could allow the right plot to emerge. We can take the elements we know we want and use that given to solve for the missing elements that make for a complete story. And none of that need be accomplished in the actual writing; we could figure out what we need first---solve the story---and then write (and possibly be surprised when the actual writing solves differently). Hope this helps. | 0 | 11,606 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices6xp | icf9vb4 | 1,655,261,766 | 1,655,272,594 | 0 | 2 | Bruh... | The first question has to be "Why are you writing a story to begin with?" If you have a blank page and no inkling of why you actually want to write a story there's little help to be had. But let's assume there is a bug up a rear, some notion or idea that begs for a story even if we don't know what the story is. We need characters that want something and we need conflicts or oppositions that coincide/intersect with what characters want. None of that need be direct---the conflicts could be more thematic than plot-related (but I would still need character-associated conflicts that drive the plot if that's the case)---but what we are looking for is the motivator that powers us through writing the story. Themes and the right characterization might emerge if we light on a plot idea that gets us going. Conversely, letting an already-conceived character lead us as they grapple with a conflict/opposition/theme could allow the right plot to emerge. We can take the elements we know we want and use that given to solve for the missing elements that make for a complete story. And none of that need be accomplished in the actual writing; we could figure out what we need first---solve the story---and then write (and possibly be surprised when the actual writing solves differently). Hope this helps. | 0 | 10,828 | 2,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfu8kq | iceqofe | 1,655,289,769 | 1,655,260,988 | 2 | 1 | Step one, read the damn sidebar. | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | 1 | 28,781 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfu8kq | ices6xp | 1,655,289,769 | 1,655,261,766 | 2 | 0 | Step one, read the damn sidebar. | Bruh... | 1 | 28,003 | 2,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfghz4 | icfu8kq | 1,655,277,873 | 1,655,289,769 | 1 | 2 | Its pretty flexible. There's no one process. If you're just starting out i'd recommend writing a short story. Something you know you can finish. Maybe 10-30 pages max. Shorter is also okay. For me, it can help to have a starting idea of what you want to write about. I usually set some time aside to brain storm concepts if I don't have one i want to write about. It's important to not be too picky when you're starting out. Just go with whatever you feel motivated to write. You'll get more ideas and better ones as you go. There are hundreds of ways of getting ideas, but one of the ones I find helpful is "What if X BUT Y" So for example: "What if a man goes to buy some milk. but he gets attacked by a helicopter?" or "What if the president needs to deliver a speech, but he has a stutter?" or "What if a man goes to mars, but his ship stops working and he gets stranded?" You can also take an idea from a story you enjoy and flip it on its head. Taking Harry Potter for example; What if a non magical detective uncovers a secret school of magical wizards? You can write off the cuff if you'd like, but it can help to think of some basic things that might happen. Like an ending, or a scene. Try to fill in the gaps. If A happens and C happens, what is B? It can also help to come up with some characters and think about why they might be involved in the story. Again, don't be too picky. Basically just jot down anything you think might help you make the story. I wouldn't worry too much about having everything fleshed out if you do plan in advance. Just get enough down to get you started. At this stage its less important to get the story perfect and more important to get it written, so don't get too self conscious about your work or linger too much on what is wrong with it. Just try to focus on getting to the end of the story and having fun. It can be tempting to get feedback on your first story after you write it, but i'd advise against it. Share it if you'd like, but i'd mainly focus on putting it down, writing some more and coming back to improve it using what you've learned before getting feedback.Figuring stuff out on your own before you get a second opinion can help strengthen your writing. | Step one, read the damn sidebar. | 0 | 11,896 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfjcjw | icfu8kq | 1,655,280,287 | 1,655,289,769 | 1 | 2 | One thing you can do is think in terms of change. If you want to change you have to start somewhere, who are the characters at the beginning and at the end and how do you get there. Same with the world etc. That leads you to their beliefs and the theme. Youtube is your friend: https://youtube.com/user/clickokDOTcoDOTuk | Step one, read the damn sidebar. | 0 | 9,482 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfu8kq | icfm3y2 | 1,655,289,769 | 1,655,282,735 | 2 | 1 | Step one, read the damn sidebar. | As many have stated there are different ways one approaches this. If you just start out and want to write a story of your own here is what i would do: 1. Generate an idea A very good thing that helped me was the concept of "The heros journey" it gives you all the basic structure you need for a compelling story from start to finish. All you have to do is create the world/setting and characters for it. I am sure there are different formulas and writing tips so be sure to search for them if you want to generate ideas. There are also various idea generators oj the internet i am sure, if you don't have any idea for your story. 2. Experiment and make a small premise! Brainstorm various ideas. Good thing is you don't need to start completly from scratch. Here's one for starters: Have a good guy fight a bad guy. Now you have your entry point. 3. Expand on the idea Think about your premise. In the case of "good guy vs bad guy" you could ask: "why is the bad guy evil? Why is the good guy considered good? What happened between them to get in conflict with each other? Find answers to those questions and let your ideas flow! Here is an example: The bad guy wanted to make the worlds evilest omlette so he started kidnapping all the chickens around the good guys farm. The good guy noticed his chickens are missing and is now on a quest to get his chickens back. The best thing is, it's up to you wether you want comedy, drama, action, etc. From here on out you can expand more and more and before you know it you have your little story! | 1 | 7,034 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | iceqofe | icfusca | 1,655,260,988 | 1,655,290,175 | 1 | 2 | There is no set step, everyone has their own process. Some make characters first, some start with the World-building, some start at the end, others the beginning, etc. Just write from anywhere and you can organize it later. | List the Characters. Pick the genre. Write a summary. And then your imagination flow. | 0 | 29,187 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices6xp | icfusca | 1,655,261,766 | 1,655,290,175 | 0 | 2 | Bruh... | List the Characters. Pick the genre. Write a summary. And then your imagination flow. | 0 | 28,409 | 2,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfghz4 | icfusca | 1,655,277,873 | 1,655,290,175 | 1 | 2 | Its pretty flexible. There's no one process. If you're just starting out i'd recommend writing a short story. Something you know you can finish. Maybe 10-30 pages max. Shorter is also okay. For me, it can help to have a starting idea of what you want to write about. I usually set some time aside to brain storm concepts if I don't have one i want to write about. It's important to not be too picky when you're starting out. Just go with whatever you feel motivated to write. You'll get more ideas and better ones as you go. There are hundreds of ways of getting ideas, but one of the ones I find helpful is "What if X BUT Y" So for example: "What if a man goes to buy some milk. but he gets attacked by a helicopter?" or "What if the president needs to deliver a speech, but he has a stutter?" or "What if a man goes to mars, but his ship stops working and he gets stranded?" You can also take an idea from a story you enjoy and flip it on its head. Taking Harry Potter for example; What if a non magical detective uncovers a secret school of magical wizards? You can write off the cuff if you'd like, but it can help to think of some basic things that might happen. Like an ending, or a scene. Try to fill in the gaps. If A happens and C happens, what is B? It can also help to come up with some characters and think about why they might be involved in the story. Again, don't be too picky. Basically just jot down anything you think might help you make the story. I wouldn't worry too much about having everything fleshed out if you do plan in advance. Just get enough down to get you started. At this stage its less important to get the story perfect and more important to get it written, so don't get too self conscious about your work or linger too much on what is wrong with it. Just try to focus on getting to the end of the story and having fun. It can be tempting to get feedback on your first story after you write it, but i'd advise against it. Share it if you'd like, but i'd mainly focus on putting it down, writing some more and coming back to improve it using what you've learned before getting feedback.Figuring stuff out on your own before you get a second opinion can help strengthen your writing. | List the Characters. Pick the genre. Write a summary. And then your imagination flow. | 0 | 12,302 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfusca | icfjcjw | 1,655,290,175 | 1,655,280,287 | 2 | 1 | List the Characters. Pick the genre. Write a summary. And then your imagination flow. | One thing you can do is think in terms of change. If you want to change you have to start somewhere, who are the characters at the beginning and at the end and how do you get there. Same with the world etc. That leads you to their beliefs and the theme. Youtube is your friend: https://youtube.com/user/clickokDOTcoDOTuk | 1 | 9,888 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfm3y2 | icfusca | 1,655,282,735 | 1,655,290,175 | 1 | 2 | As many have stated there are different ways one approaches this. If you just start out and want to write a story of your own here is what i would do: 1. Generate an idea A very good thing that helped me was the concept of "The heros journey" it gives you all the basic structure you need for a compelling story from start to finish. All you have to do is create the world/setting and characters for it. I am sure there are different formulas and writing tips so be sure to search for them if you want to generate ideas. There are also various idea generators oj the internet i am sure, if you don't have any idea for your story. 2. Experiment and make a small premise! Brainstorm various ideas. Good thing is you don't need to start completly from scratch. Here's one for starters: Have a good guy fight a bad guy. Now you have your entry point. 3. Expand on the idea Think about your premise. In the case of "good guy vs bad guy" you could ask: "why is the bad guy evil? Why is the good guy considered good? What happened between them to get in conflict with each other? Find answers to those questions and let your ideas flow! Here is an example: The bad guy wanted to make the worlds evilest omlette so he started kidnapping all the chickens around the good guys farm. The good guy noticed his chickens are missing and is now on a quest to get his chickens back. The best thing is, it's up to you wether you want comedy, drama, action, etc. From here on out you can expand more and more and before you know it you have your little story! | List the Characters. Pick the genre. Write a summary. And then your imagination flow. | 0 | 7,440 | 2 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices6xp | icfghz4 | 1,655,261,766 | 1,655,277,873 | 0 | 1 | Bruh... | Its pretty flexible. There's no one process. If you're just starting out i'd recommend writing a short story. Something you know you can finish. Maybe 10-30 pages max. Shorter is also okay. For me, it can help to have a starting idea of what you want to write about. I usually set some time aside to brain storm concepts if I don't have one i want to write about. It's important to not be too picky when you're starting out. Just go with whatever you feel motivated to write. You'll get more ideas and better ones as you go. There are hundreds of ways of getting ideas, but one of the ones I find helpful is "What if X BUT Y" So for example: "What if a man goes to buy some milk. but he gets attacked by a helicopter?" or "What if the president needs to deliver a speech, but he has a stutter?" or "What if a man goes to mars, but his ship stops working and he gets stranded?" You can also take an idea from a story you enjoy and flip it on its head. Taking Harry Potter for example; What if a non magical detective uncovers a secret school of magical wizards? You can write off the cuff if you'd like, but it can help to think of some basic things that might happen. Like an ending, or a scene. Try to fill in the gaps. If A happens and C happens, what is B? It can also help to come up with some characters and think about why they might be involved in the story. Again, don't be too picky. Basically just jot down anything you think might help you make the story. I wouldn't worry too much about having everything fleshed out if you do plan in advance. Just get enough down to get you started. At this stage its less important to get the story perfect and more important to get it written, so don't get too self conscious about your work or linger too much on what is wrong with it. Just try to focus on getting to the end of the story and having fun. It can be tempting to get feedback on your first story after you write it, but i'd advise against it. Share it if you'd like, but i'd mainly focus on putting it down, writing some more and coming back to improve it using what you've learned before getting feedback.Figuring stuff out on your own before you get a second opinion can help strengthen your writing. | 0 | 16,107 | 1,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices6xp | icfjcjw | 1,655,261,766 | 1,655,280,287 | 0 | 1 | Bruh... | One thing you can do is think in terms of change. If you want to change you have to start somewhere, who are the characters at the beginning and at the end and how do you get there. Same with the world etc. That leads you to their beliefs and the theme. Youtube is your friend: https://youtube.com/user/clickokDOTcoDOTuk | 0 | 18,521 | 1,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icfm3y2 | ices6xp | 1,655,282,735 | 1,655,261,766 | 1 | 0 | As many have stated there are different ways one approaches this. If you just start out and want to write a story of your own here is what i would do: 1. Generate an idea A very good thing that helped me was the concept of "The heros journey" it gives you all the basic structure you need for a compelling story from start to finish. All you have to do is create the world/setting and characters for it. I am sure there are different formulas and writing tips so be sure to search for them if you want to generate ideas. There are also various idea generators oj the internet i am sure, if you don't have any idea for your story. 2. Experiment and make a small premise! Brainstorm various ideas. Good thing is you don't need to start completly from scratch. Here's one for starters: Have a good guy fight a bad guy. Now you have your entry point. 3. Expand on the idea Think about your premise. In the case of "good guy vs bad guy" you could ask: "why is the bad guy evil? Why is the good guy considered good? What happened between them to get in conflict with each other? Find answers to those questions and let your ideas flow! Here is an example: The bad guy wanted to make the worlds evilest omlette so he started kidnapping all the chickens around the good guys farm. The good guy noticed his chickens are missing and is now on a quest to get his chickens back. The best thing is, it's up to you wether you want comedy, drama, action, etc. From here on out you can expand more and more and before you know it you have your little story! | Bruh... | 1 | 20,969 | 1,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icgafva | ices6xp | 1,655,299,418 | 1,655,261,766 | 1 | 0 | There aren't any rules, but if it's your first time and you need some direction: Keep a journal and write down all your ideas. Order doesn't matter, just get everything on the page. Answer questions like who are the characters, what are they like, what do they like, what kinds of relationships do they have? What's the setting? What resources do the characters have to accomplish their goals? What's standing in the way of them accomplishing their goals? Identify the plot. You need to do this on some level even if you're a pantster. What's the incident that kicks everything off (A)? What's the final incident or climax (B)? The story is what gets you from A to B. What's the primary conflict? Or in other words, what changes between points A and B? Who (or what) does the change happen to? Decide on your audience. Who will be reading your book? That will determine HOW you write, chapter length, vocabulary, complexity, etc. You don't need to decide right now if you're a pantser or a plotter (other people will tell you exactly what those words mean) but if you aren't sure what works best for you, start by outling your plot. Fill in the spaces between points A and B with other points. Think of it as a map with a starting place and a destination - the story is your route, and the plot points are your stops and turns. | Bruh... | 1 | 37,652 | 1,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icgh1qk | ices6xp | 1,655,302,478 | 1,655,261,766 | 1 | 0 | I hate this problem because I get it whenever I want to write but do you have a general direction you want to go to. If so, find out how you get there and then start a bit before. This way, the reader gets to see how things normally are before the inciting incident | Bruh... | 1 | 40,712 | 1,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices6xp | icgv9hp | 1,655,261,766 | 1,655,308,437 | 0 | 1 | Bruh... | Steps are for alcoholics. Writing is different. *We outline*. | 0 | 46,671 | 1,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | icgwdwd | ices6xp | 1,655,308,892 | 1,655,261,766 | 1 | 0 | I can only speak for my own process. This is what I do: 1. Decide on your objective. The idea came from a desire to express something. What is it? A specific character arc? A certain kind of conflict? Some kind of relationship between characters, or a character and their environment? Is there a specific experience or emotion you want the reader to have? 2. Begin fleshing out logistics around the objective. Give your characters traits, occupations, and relationships to each other that will allow their role in the story to shine through the most clearly. If it's sci-fi or fantasy, tailor your lore to your objective. 3. Create an outline. On a high level, what are the events of the story? In the same way that your world and characters should point to the objective, the events should also do the same. 4. Slowly paint over the outline with your prose. Do it as quickly as you can, laying down the bare essentials of dialogue and stage directions. The less concerned you are about the believability of the dialogue or the quality of the prose itself, the better. It's really easy to get stuck on this step, and the more concerned you are with writing quality, the harder it will be! 5. Take some time away from your story. Don't read it, and if you can, don't think about it. Focus on other stories, or better yet, other hobbies. This should be a minimum of three days, but two weeks away is best. 6. Read through your story and begin fixing the obvious issues. Bad dialogue, redundant or suboptimal use of vocabulary, etc. Flesh out your stage directions with actual descriptions. 7. Read through your story and take it in on a macroscopic scale. Assess its quality relative to your original objective. This is the time to plan and execute high-level revisions, such as changing fundamental sections of the plot or characters if you find inconsistencies (logical or tonal) or untapped opportunities (sections of your prose which do not service the objective.) 8. Repeat steps 5-7 until your revisions are miniscule and you feel like even the biggest changes you're making are splitting hairs. | Bruh... | 1 | 47,126 | 1,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices6xp | ichbkf0 | 1,655,261,766 | 1,655,315,081 | 0 | 1 | Bruh... | Aside from all the obvious planning to do when you actually decide to write a book. I suggest you start with something small. Experiment on like a fanfic or a movie you’ve seen and want to make your own interpretations about. I don’t think people talk enough about how hard it is to actually finish a story. That’s why I say start small, know your limits first. Before you get into all the planning and making an original story. | 0 | 53,315 | 1,000 | ||
vck3kg | writing_train | 0.82 | What is the order of steps I should take when first writing a story? I don't really know what I should start with when writing my story | ices6xp | ichisi7 | 1,655,261,766 | 1,655,318,008 | 0 | 1 | Bruh... | > One man came to Mozart and asked him how to write a symphony. Mozart replied, “You are too young to write a symphony.” The man said, “You were writing symphonies when you were 10 years of age, and I am 21.” Mozart said, “Yes, but I didn’t run around asking people how to do it.” | 0 | 56,242 | 1,000 | ||
w8mucl | writing_train | 0.87 | I have a problem regarding my search for my own voice and style as a writer. Help needed Hi! I have always been interested of writing. English is not my native language, so pardon my possible mistakes. I like to write in my native language. But here is the problem. Writing is very natural for me. I write poetically. I have a very distinctive style. In school I was taught to write in a certain way. To use certain kind of structure etc. I haven’t written in a year or so. But now that I want to write, I am worried. YES, I have a style! BUT I am worried that it is not my style but a product of what I have been taught to do. Unoriginal schoolbook example of writing. I unconsciously write in this certain way because I did it in school for years. How can I find my own original style and my own voice? I mean, it is easy if you are a beginner. But I have written for years like this. So it is extremely hard to change style so that it would FEEL NATURAL. To make it feel like my writing. Any advice? Thank you so much! | ihq73bw | ihq6kag | 1,658,850,210 | 1,658,850,007 | 10 | 7 | Just write what comes to you naturally, and your style will evolve on its own. | As a writer and a painter, I was worried about not having a particular style in both arts. Fast forward to a few years of practicing both for a few hours a week. All this time, I did not bother about my style, I just worked on producing quality work. In a few years, my style has emerged organically with the volume of work that I made. This style is both a reflection of the process that is now "my process", a choice of subjects, and all my other quirks and interests. The only way a style can come through is a large volume of work that has some sort of consistency in it. We can easily pick someone's style out because we can see their works lined up together. I did not work on my style, it emerged by itself. Happy end. e: clarity | 1 | 203 | 1.428571 | ||
w8mucl | writing_train | 0.87 | I have a problem regarding my search for my own voice and style as a writer. Help needed Hi! I have always been interested of writing. English is not my native language, so pardon my possible mistakes. I like to write in my native language. But here is the problem. Writing is very natural for me. I write poetically. I have a very distinctive style. In school I was taught to write in a certain way. To use certain kind of structure etc. I haven’t written in a year or so. But now that I want to write, I am worried. YES, I have a style! BUT I am worried that it is not my style but a product of what I have been taught to do. Unoriginal schoolbook example of writing. I unconsciously write in this certain way because I did it in school for years. How can I find my own original style and my own voice? I mean, it is easy if you are a beginner. But I have written for years like this. So it is extremely hard to change style so that it would FEEL NATURAL. To make it feel like my writing. Any advice? Thank you so much! | ihqavi5 | ihq9ifp | 1,658,851,670 | 1,658,851,145 | 5 | 4 | At first, you create art after your own mind because it's all you know. However, you're limited by not being technically proficient, and many things that you can envision is simply out of your reach. So you start learning technique, to get where you want to go, and all of a sudden it's apparent how much there is to learn. The focus on getting the technique right makes your art look stilted and unimaginative. It looks like you're further away from your vision than when you started. To reach a state where you can actually express yourself freely, and find out what your art actually looks like, there's no other way than to turn all those techniques into intuitive skill, and free yourself of the limitations a poor grasp of the craft puts on you. When you've been through this crucible, that's when your true voice will emerge. | Personally, I think style develops by itself with practice. If you try to force a style into your writing, it comes across as forced. Style also changes over the span of your life and you can't be afraid of that change. My work as a teenager was very different from my work in my twenties which was very different from my work in my thirties. It's a lesson that took me a long time to learn, but style is the last layer to be concerned about. First and foremost you should be concerned with the craft of writing - learning to weave good stories. Focus on characterization, character development, plotting, theme, communicating concisely. As you develop the craft of your writing, the style just sort of...happens. You find it. | 1 | 525 | 1.25 | ||
le89aw | writing_train | 0.77 | I have an amazing idea for a novel, but I’m not a very descriptive writer and don’t think I’m good enough. I’ve always loved fantasy and have a great idea for my own project, but I just don’t think my writing is good enough. It’s not bad, but when I see pieces of work from other authors I’m like “damn, how can I even compete with that? It’s incredible!” I have a bug imagination but I think I’m held back a bit by my abilities to paint a pretty picture. I love writing and sometimes will just freehand and am getting better, but sometimes it’s hard to practice and stuff, as I’m a full-time science student, studying biology and organic chemistry, so I’m very busy. Does anyone have any tips or motivation for me? I’d really appreciate it! I’ve heard that the first draft is never pretty, but I’m such a perfectionist that when I finish writing a paragraph/scene, I’ll go back and be like “this is complete shit. No one will like it and you’ll never make it,” and it makes me think I have to keep rewriting it. Even in my studies at school I’m just so damn hard on myself all of the time. I’ll continue to finish it but I just think that I stink, and nothing I write will ever get published. | gmadnp5 | gmadxtr | 1,612,650,513 | 1,612,650,591 | 4 | 7 | There are many books who mostly live off their ideas where the writing was not great. Also, just because you are a perfectionist does not mean you have to live with that forever. You can work on that (I did by purposly doing stuff not perfect and just having to deal with it). Perfectionism in writing is impossible. Even if your book seels a billion times you will still think, ah I should have put a different word there, or something like that. It will never really go away. But maybe this also is not even your problem at all but something else. Also: whatever trash you write will be better than anything that was never written Quote (rough translation) for the end: Perfectionism is worth striving for, but only if you know that you may never reach it. | Play the long game. Keep reading and jot down your ideas as a journal. Be analytical about what you read that you like and want to emulate. Don't look at great writing as magic. Look at it as a style with explicit features that you can reproduce if you understand it well enough. Start to acknowledge your weaknesses to improve them. Is it your vocabulary? Your sense of meter? Your sentence structure? There are solutions to these problems. But again, play the long game. The idea isn't going anywhere, and if you focus even part time on improving your writing craft, one day you'll be able to do it justice. | 0 | 78 | 1.75 | ||
le89aw | writing_train | 0.77 | I have an amazing idea for a novel, but I’m not a very descriptive writer and don’t think I’m good enough. I’ve always loved fantasy and have a great idea for my own project, but I just don’t think my writing is good enough. It’s not bad, but when I see pieces of work from other authors I’m like “damn, how can I even compete with that? It’s incredible!” I have a bug imagination but I think I’m held back a bit by my abilities to paint a pretty picture. I love writing and sometimes will just freehand and am getting better, but sometimes it’s hard to practice and stuff, as I’m a full-time science student, studying biology and organic chemistry, so I’m very busy. Does anyone have any tips or motivation for me? I’d really appreciate it! I’ve heard that the first draft is never pretty, but I’m such a perfectionist that when I finish writing a paragraph/scene, I’ll go back and be like “this is complete shit. No one will like it and you’ll never make it,” and it makes me think I have to keep rewriting it. Even in my studies at school I’m just so damn hard on myself all of the time. I’ll continue to finish it but I just think that I stink, and nothing I write will ever get published. | gmafk1a | gmagbww | 1,612,651,146 | 1,612,651,424 | 1 | 3 | You are right, you're most likely not good enough. Then again, every writer has been there and you'll never get out unless you read, practice your writing and finish your draft so you have something to improve upon. | Sounds like you've got a bad case of internal editor. You can deal with it in two ways, either by de-stressing the work, that is s, making it feel less important in your mind, or by combating the editor itself. Getting rid of your internal editor is doable, but, like any psychological shifts, takes a lot of time and effort. I'm not going to go into specifics here, because a lot of it is individual, but I'd suggest reading up on ways to combat perfectionism and impostor syndrome. As an added bonus for us writers: we absolutely stink at judging the quality of our own work. That's because we see the idea we want to convey, and compare it to the little black marks on the screen, Nad and the black marks will always lose such a comparison. De-stressing your work might be a better bet, but it requires that you change perception of your idea. For me, it sometimes work to view everything I do as practice. That is, I'm not writing my grand idea, I'm just practicing for when I will start, and if what I write turns out to be a good enough to keep, so much the better. Luck! | 0 | 278 | 3 | ||
le89aw | writing_train | 0.77 | I have an amazing idea for a novel, but I’m not a very descriptive writer and don’t think I’m good enough. I’ve always loved fantasy and have a great idea for my own project, but I just don’t think my writing is good enough. It’s not bad, but when I see pieces of work from other authors I’m like “damn, how can I even compete with that? It’s incredible!” I have a bug imagination but I think I’m held back a bit by my abilities to paint a pretty picture. I love writing and sometimes will just freehand and am getting better, but sometimes it’s hard to practice and stuff, as I’m a full-time science student, studying biology and organic chemistry, so I’m very busy. Does anyone have any tips or motivation for me? I’d really appreciate it! I’ve heard that the first draft is never pretty, but I’m such a perfectionist that when I finish writing a paragraph/scene, I’ll go back and be like “this is complete shit. No one will like it and you’ll never make it,” and it makes me think I have to keep rewriting it. Even in my studies at school I’m just so damn hard on myself all of the time. I’ll continue to finish it but I just think that I stink, and nothing I write will ever get published. | gmafk1a | gmah1xh | 1,612,651,146 | 1,612,651,680 | 1 | 2 | You are right, you're most likely not good enough. Then again, every writer has been there and you'll never get out unless you read, practice your writing and finish your draft so you have something to improve upon. | I can guarantee ever piece of writing you're comparing your own to has gone through multiple line edits and drafts. No one writes fiction perfectly the first time. | 0 | 534 | 2 | ||
le89aw | writing_train | 0.77 | I have an amazing idea for a novel, but I’m not a very descriptive writer and don’t think I’m good enough. I’ve always loved fantasy and have a great idea for my own project, but I just don’t think my writing is good enough. It’s not bad, but when I see pieces of work from other authors I’m like “damn, how can I even compete with that? It’s incredible!” I have a bug imagination but I think I’m held back a bit by my abilities to paint a pretty picture. I love writing and sometimes will just freehand and am getting better, but sometimes it’s hard to practice and stuff, as I’m a full-time science student, studying biology and organic chemistry, so I’m very busy. Does anyone have any tips or motivation for me? I’d really appreciate it! I’ve heard that the first draft is never pretty, but I’m such a perfectionist that when I finish writing a paragraph/scene, I’ll go back and be like “this is complete shit. No one will like it and you’ll never make it,” and it makes me think I have to keep rewriting it. Even in my studies at school I’m just so damn hard on myself all of the time. I’ll continue to finish it but I just think that I stink, and nothing I write will ever get published. | gmafk1a | gmbcenk | 1,612,651,146 | 1,612,661,582 | 1 | 2 | You are right, you're most likely not good enough. Then again, every writer has been there and you'll never get out unless you read, practice your writing and finish your draft so you have something to improve upon. | I suffer from wanting to be good at something as soon as I start and it only rarely ever happens. To get good at drawing I had to draw every day. To get good at guitar I had to play every day. Now also keep in mind that I'm not actually very good at those things but I'm way better than I was when I started and I enjoy both a good deal which is the important thing here. I made heaps and piles of garbage along the way but I had fun doing it and that motivated me to keep going. Learn how to say, "Yeah, that sucked." with a grin on your face and then keep going. EDIT: Work on other stuff while you're getting good. If you try to hone your craft by beginning with your master work you'll totally kill it. Write a bunch of stuff that just doesn't matter. Kill that stuff instead. Soon you'll only be lightly maiming stories and in a while just bruising them. | 0 | 10,436 | 2 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flruasf | flrup3v | 1,585,428,007 | 1,585,428,244 | 25 | 44 | Be diverse! There are endless possibilities for male characters! :) Diversity is pretty important (in my opinion!) in stories. Some male characters fit into the category as “the strong tough guy”, and some male characters don’t ! :) | I would give the same advice now as I would to any man asking how to write from a woman’s point of view, but flipped: write it about the same way you would a woman. Some men are emotional, some are needy. Some are cowardly and suck. Despicable and downright evil in some cases. Same for women. But some are strong and brave. Noble, willing to sacrifice and put the greater good ahead of their own safety — same for women. What matters to me, as a reader, is character consistency, as I think establishing strong character and staying true with it will naturally help you avoid stereotypes — and characteristics you include that ARE technically stereotypes, wouldn’t stand out as they would on a flat character. (Unless it’s, like, SUPER racist) .Understanding the character and their life, letting that show through in how they behave, rather than making them do something for plot’s sake. That’ll go miles further than than simply how does a man act; how does a woman act. And for this to really sing, that’s where worldbuilding comes in, if it isn’t set in our exact society (admittedly male-centric, though shifting). I actually don’t know what genre you write but in fantasy, in any genre, a world and its cast typically stays relatable as long as you stay consistent and realistic within the scope of your narrative. To me, this is how your character interacts with the overall world, the established society and its norms — all balanced in the context of their life., their experiences. Not just man or women, but what that means in both their society and to them. If you set up your society to be male-centric (like defaulting to masculine terms and stuff) then that would impact how the character you’ve set up would behave. It’s not necessarily just how would a man behave, but how would a man behave who’d been abused by his mother for years? That same story could be flipped any number of ways: for both point of view, and overall world/society. But in essence that character is very close to the same. Like, would Psycho be less scary if it were about Norene Bates killing people because of an obsession with her father, than it is about Norman Bates and his mother? For what it’s worth, I think a man dressed in woman’s clothes coming at me with a knife is far scarier an image than the inverse, but I hope that illustrates my point for most cases This is all opinion, but gender doesn’t HAVE to be a big deal or obstacle, or on the tip of everyone’s mind. Especially from a worldbuilding perspective before you even get into what it means for the character, I think a subtle hand paints the most detail. I enjoyed how Wheel of Time presented women as the dominant force in the society, especially at the village level where common people interacted. I loved that all the men gossiped about what the women were doing, and all the women were doing the same back. Both, frankly, thought they were superior to the other. A pretty realistic take, actually; he just flipped it so society leaned towards women instead (if I recall, been a long while). He can be a bit heavy once in a while with it, but for the most part I thought it was a neat take. Another is in Brandon Sanderson’s Stormlight Archive, where the women have a safe hand and wear a glove over it all times. Men do not. It shows a sort of oppressive society that, though not one abusively so from what I’ve read, errs on the side of masculinity. Sorry for the raving rant, I’ll get off my soapbox. TL;DR Since I wasted everyone’s time with my word vomit, here’s something I think is neat and relatively factual (and relevent to topic). Men typically default to masculine phrases when describing objects, unless it’s an object they hold great affection for. Then a feminine tag and name are typically used. (Lucille from TWD, anything where someone names a gun). I think this is born of many things, but also the way our society is set up. (Edited for thumb slips) | 0 | 237 | 1.76 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrup3v | flro0l6 | 1,585,428,244 | 1,585,424,191 | 44 | 10 | I would give the same advice now as I would to any man asking how to write from a woman’s point of view, but flipped: write it about the same way you would a woman. Some men are emotional, some are needy. Some are cowardly and suck. Despicable and downright evil in some cases. Same for women. But some are strong and brave. Noble, willing to sacrifice and put the greater good ahead of their own safety — same for women. What matters to me, as a reader, is character consistency, as I think establishing strong character and staying true with it will naturally help you avoid stereotypes — and characteristics you include that ARE technically stereotypes, wouldn’t stand out as they would on a flat character. (Unless it’s, like, SUPER racist) .Understanding the character and their life, letting that show through in how they behave, rather than making them do something for plot’s sake. That’ll go miles further than than simply how does a man act; how does a woman act. And for this to really sing, that’s where worldbuilding comes in, if it isn’t set in our exact society (admittedly male-centric, though shifting). I actually don’t know what genre you write but in fantasy, in any genre, a world and its cast typically stays relatable as long as you stay consistent and realistic within the scope of your narrative. To me, this is how your character interacts with the overall world, the established society and its norms — all balanced in the context of their life., their experiences. Not just man or women, but what that means in both their society and to them. If you set up your society to be male-centric (like defaulting to masculine terms and stuff) then that would impact how the character you’ve set up would behave. It’s not necessarily just how would a man behave, but how would a man behave who’d been abused by his mother for years? That same story could be flipped any number of ways: for both point of view, and overall world/society. But in essence that character is very close to the same. Like, would Psycho be less scary if it were about Norene Bates killing people because of an obsession with her father, than it is about Norman Bates and his mother? For what it’s worth, I think a man dressed in woman’s clothes coming at me with a knife is far scarier an image than the inverse, but I hope that illustrates my point for most cases This is all opinion, but gender doesn’t HAVE to be a big deal or obstacle, or on the tip of everyone’s mind. Especially from a worldbuilding perspective before you even get into what it means for the character, I think a subtle hand paints the most detail. I enjoyed how Wheel of Time presented women as the dominant force in the society, especially at the village level where common people interacted. I loved that all the men gossiped about what the women were doing, and all the women were doing the same back. Both, frankly, thought they were superior to the other. A pretty realistic take, actually; he just flipped it so society leaned towards women instead (if I recall, been a long while). He can be a bit heavy once in a while with it, but for the most part I thought it was a neat take. Another is in Brandon Sanderson’s Stormlight Archive, where the women have a safe hand and wear a glove over it all times. Men do not. It shows a sort of oppressive society that, though not one abusively so from what I’ve read, errs on the side of masculinity. Sorry for the raving rant, I’ll get off my soapbox. TL;DR Since I wasted everyone’s time with my word vomit, here’s something I think is neat and relatively factual (and relevent to topic). Men typically default to masculine phrases when describing objects, unless it’s an object they hold great affection for. Then a feminine tag and name are typically used. (Lucille from TWD, anything where someone names a gun). I think this is born of many things, but also the way our society is set up. (Edited for thumb slips) | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | 1 | 4,053 | 4.4 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrup3v | flro411 | 1,585,428,244 | 1,585,424,249 | 44 | 10 | I would give the same advice now as I would to any man asking how to write from a woman’s point of view, but flipped: write it about the same way you would a woman. Some men are emotional, some are needy. Some are cowardly and suck. Despicable and downright evil in some cases. Same for women. But some are strong and brave. Noble, willing to sacrifice and put the greater good ahead of their own safety — same for women. What matters to me, as a reader, is character consistency, as I think establishing strong character and staying true with it will naturally help you avoid stereotypes — and characteristics you include that ARE technically stereotypes, wouldn’t stand out as they would on a flat character. (Unless it’s, like, SUPER racist) .Understanding the character and their life, letting that show through in how they behave, rather than making them do something for plot’s sake. That’ll go miles further than than simply how does a man act; how does a woman act. And for this to really sing, that’s where worldbuilding comes in, if it isn’t set in our exact society (admittedly male-centric, though shifting). I actually don’t know what genre you write but in fantasy, in any genre, a world and its cast typically stays relatable as long as you stay consistent and realistic within the scope of your narrative. To me, this is how your character interacts with the overall world, the established society and its norms — all balanced in the context of their life., their experiences. Not just man or women, but what that means in both their society and to them. If you set up your society to be male-centric (like defaulting to masculine terms and stuff) then that would impact how the character you’ve set up would behave. It’s not necessarily just how would a man behave, but how would a man behave who’d been abused by his mother for years? That same story could be flipped any number of ways: for both point of view, and overall world/society. But in essence that character is very close to the same. Like, would Psycho be less scary if it were about Norene Bates killing people because of an obsession with her father, than it is about Norman Bates and his mother? For what it’s worth, I think a man dressed in woman’s clothes coming at me with a knife is far scarier an image than the inverse, but I hope that illustrates my point for most cases This is all opinion, but gender doesn’t HAVE to be a big deal or obstacle, or on the tip of everyone’s mind. Especially from a worldbuilding perspective before you even get into what it means for the character, I think a subtle hand paints the most detail. I enjoyed how Wheel of Time presented women as the dominant force in the society, especially at the village level where common people interacted. I loved that all the men gossiped about what the women were doing, and all the women were doing the same back. Both, frankly, thought they were superior to the other. A pretty realistic take, actually; he just flipped it so society leaned towards women instead (if I recall, been a long while). He can be a bit heavy once in a while with it, but for the most part I thought it was a neat take. Another is in Brandon Sanderson’s Stormlight Archive, where the women have a safe hand and wear a glove over it all times. Men do not. It shows a sort of oppressive society that, though not one abusively so from what I’ve read, errs on the side of masculinity. Sorry for the raving rant, I’ll get off my soapbox. TL;DR Since I wasted everyone’s time with my word vomit, here’s something I think is neat and relatively factual (and relevent to topic). Men typically default to masculine phrases when describing objects, unless it’s an object they hold great affection for. Then a feminine tag and name are typically used. (Lucille from TWD, anything where someone names a gun). I think this is born of many things, but also the way our society is set up. (Edited for thumb slips) | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | 1 | 3,995 | 4.4 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrpzx2 | flrup3v | 1,585,425,395 | 1,585,428,244 | 11 | 44 | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | I would give the same advice now as I would to any man asking how to write from a woman’s point of view, but flipped: write it about the same way you would a woman. Some men are emotional, some are needy. Some are cowardly and suck. Despicable and downright evil in some cases. Same for women. But some are strong and brave. Noble, willing to sacrifice and put the greater good ahead of their own safety — same for women. What matters to me, as a reader, is character consistency, as I think establishing strong character and staying true with it will naturally help you avoid stereotypes — and characteristics you include that ARE technically stereotypes, wouldn’t stand out as they would on a flat character. (Unless it’s, like, SUPER racist) .Understanding the character and their life, letting that show through in how they behave, rather than making them do something for plot’s sake. That’ll go miles further than than simply how does a man act; how does a woman act. And for this to really sing, that’s where worldbuilding comes in, if it isn’t set in our exact society (admittedly male-centric, though shifting). I actually don’t know what genre you write but in fantasy, in any genre, a world and its cast typically stays relatable as long as you stay consistent and realistic within the scope of your narrative. To me, this is how your character interacts with the overall world, the established society and its norms — all balanced in the context of their life., their experiences. Not just man or women, but what that means in both their society and to them. If you set up your society to be male-centric (like defaulting to masculine terms and stuff) then that would impact how the character you’ve set up would behave. It’s not necessarily just how would a man behave, but how would a man behave who’d been abused by his mother for years? That same story could be flipped any number of ways: for both point of view, and overall world/society. But in essence that character is very close to the same. Like, would Psycho be less scary if it were about Norene Bates killing people because of an obsession with her father, than it is about Norman Bates and his mother? For what it’s worth, I think a man dressed in woman’s clothes coming at me with a knife is far scarier an image than the inverse, but I hope that illustrates my point for most cases This is all opinion, but gender doesn’t HAVE to be a big deal or obstacle, or on the tip of everyone’s mind. Especially from a worldbuilding perspective before you even get into what it means for the character, I think a subtle hand paints the most detail. I enjoyed how Wheel of Time presented women as the dominant force in the society, especially at the village level where common people interacted. I loved that all the men gossiped about what the women were doing, and all the women were doing the same back. Both, frankly, thought they were superior to the other. A pretty realistic take, actually; he just flipped it so society leaned towards women instead (if I recall, been a long while). He can be a bit heavy once in a while with it, but for the most part I thought it was a neat take. Another is in Brandon Sanderson’s Stormlight Archive, where the women have a safe hand and wear a glove over it all times. Men do not. It shows a sort of oppressive society that, though not one abusively so from what I’ve read, errs on the side of masculinity. Sorry for the raving rant, I’ll get off my soapbox. TL;DR Since I wasted everyone’s time with my word vomit, here’s something I think is neat and relatively factual (and relevent to topic). Men typically default to masculine phrases when describing objects, unless it’s an object they hold great affection for. Then a feminine tag and name are typically used. (Lucille from TWD, anything where someone names a gun). I think this is born of many things, but also the way our society is set up. (Edited for thumb slips) | 0 | 2,849 | 4 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls0j78 | flruasf | 1,585,431,776 | 1,585,428,007 | 41 | 25 | Something important is that there's this growing idea that most men are deeply emotional and touchy/feely inside but are just being suppressed by "toxic masculinity." It's just not the case, though. The average men, even with their closest friend who they know they can trust to not tell anyone else, won't want to grieve over something by cuddling up with their guy friend on the couch under a blanket and binge watch TV shows while eating pizza. Male emotional bonding is usually more reserved on the surface, but with it also comes an understanding that you have your guy's back and also trust him to handle it in his own way. You can still look after him, but in a more casual way that gives him an out to say "nahh, I'm good." You don't want to impose too much on him. Basically, just don't write men as emotionally stunted women. | Be diverse! There are endless possibilities for male characters! :) Diversity is pretty important (in my opinion!) in stories. Some male characters fit into the category as “the strong tough guy”, and some male characters don’t ! :) | 1 | 3,769 | 1.64 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flryl47 | fls0j78 | 1,585,430,603 | 1,585,431,776 | 12 | 41 | The people that say some sort of special insight is required to write females, males or any demographic are, for the most part, completely full of it. Just spend some time thinking about it and write the best things you come up with. It'll be fine. We're all people. We all get jealous, happy, angry, ambitious and nostalgic. Everyone's complicated :) It depends on what you want to write, of course. If you're writing a fantasy story about some folks travelling to a volcano to destroy some magical jewelry, no special expertise is required. It DOES get problematic when for instance a man writes about a woman who only thinks she's being oppressed/groped/discriminated against, but deep down she likes it. That's going to raise some eyebrows. Or when a white person writes about super kind and benevolent white people trying to help a black man, but the black guy only wants to do crime and drugs (and he only talks in rap). That's going to turn you into a target, for good reason. I assume that's not the type of story you're trying to write :) | Something important is that there's this growing idea that most men are deeply emotional and touchy/feely inside but are just being suppressed by "toxic masculinity." It's just not the case, though. The average men, even with their closest friend who they know they can trust to not tell anyone else, won't want to grieve over something by cuddling up with their guy friend on the couch under a blanket and binge watch TV shows while eating pizza. Male emotional bonding is usually more reserved on the surface, but with it also comes an understanding that you have your guy's back and also trust him to handle it in his own way. You can still look after him, but in a more casual way that gives him an out to say "nahh, I'm good." You don't want to impose too much on him. Basically, just don't write men as emotionally stunted women. | 0 | 1,173 | 3.416667 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrxit5 | fls0j78 | 1,585,429,958 | 1,585,431,776 | 13 | 41 | yes, we do enjoy discussing breasts, but not all that much. | Something important is that there's this growing idea that most men are deeply emotional and touchy/feely inside but are just being suppressed by "toxic masculinity." It's just not the case, though. The average men, even with their closest friend who they know they can trust to not tell anyone else, won't want to grieve over something by cuddling up with their guy friend on the couch under a blanket and binge watch TV shows while eating pizza. Male emotional bonding is usually more reserved on the surface, but with it also comes an understanding that you have your guy's back and also trust him to handle it in his own way. You can still look after him, but in a more casual way that gives him an out to say "nahh, I'm good." You don't want to impose too much on him. Basically, just don't write men as emotionally stunted women. | 0 | 1,818 | 3.153846 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls0j78 | flro0l6 | 1,585,431,776 | 1,585,424,191 | 41 | 10 | Something important is that there's this growing idea that most men are deeply emotional and touchy/feely inside but are just being suppressed by "toxic masculinity." It's just not the case, though. The average men, even with their closest friend who they know they can trust to not tell anyone else, won't want to grieve over something by cuddling up with their guy friend on the couch under a blanket and binge watch TV shows while eating pizza. Male emotional bonding is usually more reserved on the surface, but with it also comes an understanding that you have your guy's back and also trust him to handle it in his own way. You can still look after him, but in a more casual way that gives him an out to say "nahh, I'm good." You don't want to impose too much on him. Basically, just don't write men as emotionally stunted women. | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | 1 | 7,585 | 4.1 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flro411 | fls0j78 | 1,585,424,249 | 1,585,431,776 | 10 | 41 | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | Something important is that there's this growing idea that most men are deeply emotional and touchy/feely inside but are just being suppressed by "toxic masculinity." It's just not the case, though. The average men, even with their closest friend who they know they can trust to not tell anyone else, won't want to grieve over something by cuddling up with their guy friend on the couch under a blanket and binge watch TV shows while eating pizza. Male emotional bonding is usually more reserved on the surface, but with it also comes an understanding that you have your guy's back and also trust him to handle it in his own way. You can still look after him, but in a more casual way that gives him an out to say "nahh, I'm good." You don't want to impose too much on him. Basically, just don't write men as emotionally stunted women. | 0 | 7,527 | 4.1 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrpzx2 | fls0j78 | 1,585,425,395 | 1,585,431,776 | 11 | 41 | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | Something important is that there's this growing idea that most men are deeply emotional and touchy/feely inside but are just being suppressed by "toxic masculinity." It's just not the case, though. The average men, even with their closest friend who they know they can trust to not tell anyone else, won't want to grieve over something by cuddling up with their guy friend on the couch under a blanket and binge watch TV shows while eating pizza. Male emotional bonding is usually more reserved on the surface, but with it also comes an understanding that you have your guy's back and also trust him to handle it in his own way. You can still look after him, but in a more casual way that gives him an out to say "nahh, I'm good." You don't want to impose too much on him. Basically, just don't write men as emotionally stunted women. | 0 | 6,381 | 3.727273 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrzuqx | fls0j78 | 1,585,431,365 | 1,585,431,776 | 10 | 41 | A trick I use, I make my characters based on interesting people I met irl, this way the look alive and interesting | Something important is that there's this growing idea that most men are deeply emotional and touchy/feely inside but are just being suppressed by "toxic masculinity." It's just not the case, though. The average men, even with their closest friend who they know they can trust to not tell anyone else, won't want to grieve over something by cuddling up with their guy friend on the couch under a blanket and binge watch TV shows while eating pizza. Male emotional bonding is usually more reserved on the surface, but with it also comes an understanding that you have your guy's back and also trust him to handle it in his own way. You can still look after him, but in a more casual way that gives him an out to say "nahh, I'm good." You don't want to impose too much on him. Basically, just don't write men as emotionally stunted women. | 0 | 411 | 4.1 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrvj8b | fls0j78 | 1,585,428,753 | 1,585,431,776 | 7 | 41 | Not a writer but l love to read, I suggest you look at the writing characterizations by an assortment of different styles/writers men and women and find your own. | Something important is that there's this growing idea that most men are deeply emotional and touchy/feely inside but are just being suppressed by "toxic masculinity." It's just not the case, though. The average men, even with their closest friend who they know they can trust to not tell anyone else, won't want to grieve over something by cuddling up with their guy friend on the couch under a blanket and binge watch TV shows while eating pizza. Male emotional bonding is usually more reserved on the surface, but with it also comes an understanding that you have your guy's back and also trust him to handle it in his own way. You can still look after him, but in a more casual way that gives him an out to say "nahh, I'm good." You don't want to impose too much on him. Basically, just don't write men as emotionally stunted women. | 0 | 3,023 | 5.857143 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flruasf | flro0l6 | 1,585,428,007 | 1,585,424,191 | 25 | 10 | Be diverse! There are endless possibilities for male characters! :) Diversity is pretty important (in my opinion!) in stories. Some male characters fit into the category as “the strong tough guy”, and some male characters don’t ! :) | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | 1 | 3,816 | 2.5 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flruasf | flro411 | 1,585,428,007 | 1,585,424,249 | 25 | 10 | Be diverse! There are endless possibilities for male characters! :) Diversity is pretty important (in my opinion!) in stories. Some male characters fit into the category as “the strong tough guy”, and some male characters don’t ! :) | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | 1 | 3,758 | 2.5 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrpzx2 | flruasf | 1,585,425,395 | 1,585,428,007 | 11 | 25 | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | Be diverse! There are endless possibilities for male characters! :) Diversity is pretty important (in my opinion!) in stories. Some male characters fit into the category as “the strong tough guy”, and some male characters don’t ! :) | 0 | 2,612 | 2.272727 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls5cws | flryl47 | 1,585,434,695 | 1,585,430,603 | 16 | 12 | I've definitely seen some terrible examples of women writing men. One of the most cringe-worthy examples is the movie "What Women Want." Two mistakes I've seen over and over again from women writers are, weirdly enough, men picking up women in ways that wouldn't work in real life and men reading way too much into a single look, smile, or conversation with a woman and having them be right that the woman really is attracted to them. In real life, most men realize that women can be easily scared off if we get overexcited. There are exceptions, but most men are also not super likely to make as much physical contact as women do, because people tend to read male touch as sexual or violent. | The people that say some sort of special insight is required to write females, males or any demographic are, for the most part, completely full of it. Just spend some time thinking about it and write the best things you come up with. It'll be fine. We're all people. We all get jealous, happy, angry, ambitious and nostalgic. Everyone's complicated :) It depends on what you want to write, of course. If you're writing a fantasy story about some folks travelling to a volcano to destroy some magical jewelry, no special expertise is required. It DOES get problematic when for instance a man writes about a woman who only thinks she's being oppressed/groped/discriminated against, but deep down she likes it. That's going to raise some eyebrows. Or when a white person writes about super kind and benevolent white people trying to help a black man, but the black guy only wants to do crime and drugs (and he only talks in rap). That's going to turn you into a target, for good reason. I assume that's not the type of story you're trying to write :) | 1 | 4,092 | 1.333333 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls5cws | flrxit5 | 1,585,434,695 | 1,585,429,958 | 16 | 13 | I've definitely seen some terrible examples of women writing men. One of the most cringe-worthy examples is the movie "What Women Want." Two mistakes I've seen over and over again from women writers are, weirdly enough, men picking up women in ways that wouldn't work in real life and men reading way too much into a single look, smile, or conversation with a woman and having them be right that the woman really is attracted to them. In real life, most men realize that women can be easily scared off if we get overexcited. There are exceptions, but most men are also not super likely to make as much physical contact as women do, because people tend to read male touch as sexual or violent. | yes, we do enjoy discussing breasts, but not all that much. | 1 | 4,737 | 1.230769 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flro0l6 | fls5cws | 1,585,424,191 | 1,585,434,695 | 10 | 16 | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | I've definitely seen some terrible examples of women writing men. One of the most cringe-worthy examples is the movie "What Women Want." Two mistakes I've seen over and over again from women writers are, weirdly enough, men picking up women in ways that wouldn't work in real life and men reading way too much into a single look, smile, or conversation with a woman and having them be right that the woman really is attracted to them. In real life, most men realize that women can be easily scared off if we get overexcited. There are exceptions, but most men are also not super likely to make as much physical contact as women do, because people tend to read male touch as sexual or violent. | 0 | 10,504 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls5cws | flro411 | 1,585,434,695 | 1,585,424,249 | 16 | 10 | I've definitely seen some terrible examples of women writing men. One of the most cringe-worthy examples is the movie "What Women Want." Two mistakes I've seen over and over again from women writers are, weirdly enough, men picking up women in ways that wouldn't work in real life and men reading way too much into a single look, smile, or conversation with a woman and having them be right that the woman really is attracted to them. In real life, most men realize that women can be easily scared off if we get overexcited. There are exceptions, but most men are also not super likely to make as much physical contact as women do, because people tend to read male touch as sexual or violent. | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | 1 | 10,446 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls5cws | flrpzx2 | 1,585,434,695 | 1,585,425,395 | 16 | 11 | I've definitely seen some terrible examples of women writing men. One of the most cringe-worthy examples is the movie "What Women Want." Two mistakes I've seen over and over again from women writers are, weirdly enough, men picking up women in ways that wouldn't work in real life and men reading way too much into a single look, smile, or conversation with a woman and having them be right that the woman really is attracted to them. In real life, most men realize that women can be easily scared off if we get overexcited. There are exceptions, but most men are also not super likely to make as much physical contact as women do, because people tend to read male touch as sexual or violent. | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | 1 | 9,300 | 1.454545 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls5cws | flrzuqx | 1,585,434,695 | 1,585,431,365 | 16 | 10 | I've definitely seen some terrible examples of women writing men. One of the most cringe-worthy examples is the movie "What Women Want." Two mistakes I've seen over and over again from women writers are, weirdly enough, men picking up women in ways that wouldn't work in real life and men reading way too much into a single look, smile, or conversation with a woman and having them be right that the woman really is attracted to them. In real life, most men realize that women can be easily scared off if we get overexcited. There are exceptions, but most men are also not super likely to make as much physical contact as women do, because people tend to read male touch as sexual or violent. | A trick I use, I make my characters based on interesting people I met irl, this way the look alive and interesting | 1 | 3,330 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls5cws | flrvj8b | 1,585,434,695 | 1,585,428,753 | 16 | 7 | I've definitely seen some terrible examples of women writing men. One of the most cringe-worthy examples is the movie "What Women Want." Two mistakes I've seen over and over again from women writers are, weirdly enough, men picking up women in ways that wouldn't work in real life and men reading way too much into a single look, smile, or conversation with a woman and having them be right that the woman really is attracted to them. In real life, most men realize that women can be easily scared off if we get overexcited. There are exceptions, but most men are also not super likely to make as much physical contact as women do, because people tend to read male touch as sexual or violent. | Not a writer but l love to read, I suggest you look at the writing characterizations by an assortment of different styles/writers men and women and find your own. | 1 | 5,942 | 2.285714 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls5cws | fls1tjk | 1,585,434,695 | 1,585,432,551 | 16 | 6 | I've definitely seen some terrible examples of women writing men. One of the most cringe-worthy examples is the movie "What Women Want." Two mistakes I've seen over and over again from women writers are, weirdly enough, men picking up women in ways that wouldn't work in real life and men reading way too much into a single look, smile, or conversation with a woman and having them be right that the woman really is attracted to them. In real life, most men realize that women can be easily scared off if we get overexcited. There are exceptions, but most men are also not super likely to make as much physical contact as women do, because people tend to read male touch as sexual or violent. | Not sure if this is relevant, but I heard that when Ridley Scott and Dan O’Bannon wrote Alien (1979) they just wrote a character. They didn’t really care if it was male or female they just wrote a good character. When Sigourney Weaver came around they found her to be the most fit option so only then did the character become female. Just interesting to note that they didn’t really care what the gender of their character was. They just wrote a good story and with no gender bias in mind. It could’ve easily been a male, just as easily as they made it a female. That’s equality. | 1 | 2,144 | 2.666667 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flryl47 | flsda45 | 1,585,430,603 | 1,585,439,572 | 12 | 16 | The people that say some sort of special insight is required to write females, males or any demographic are, for the most part, completely full of it. Just spend some time thinking about it and write the best things you come up with. It'll be fine. We're all people. We all get jealous, happy, angry, ambitious and nostalgic. Everyone's complicated :) It depends on what you want to write, of course. If you're writing a fantasy story about some folks travelling to a volcano to destroy some magical jewelry, no special expertise is required. It DOES get problematic when for instance a man writes about a woman who only thinks she's being oppressed/groped/discriminated against, but deep down she likes it. That's going to raise some eyebrows. Or when a white person writes about super kind and benevolent white people trying to help a black man, but the black guy only wants to do crime and drugs (and he only talks in rap). That's going to turn you into a target, for good reason. I assume that's not the type of story you're trying to write :) | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | 0 | 8,969 | 1.333333 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrxit5 | flsda45 | 1,585,429,958 | 1,585,439,572 | 13 | 16 | yes, we do enjoy discussing breasts, but not all that much. | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | 0 | 9,614 | 1.230769 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flro0l6 | flsda45 | 1,585,424,191 | 1,585,439,572 | 10 | 16 | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | 0 | 15,381 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsda45 | flro411 | 1,585,439,572 | 1,585,424,249 | 16 | 10 | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | 1 | 15,323 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsda45 | flrpzx2 | 1,585,439,572 | 1,585,425,395 | 16 | 11 | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | 1 | 14,177 | 1.454545 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrzuqx | flsda45 | 1,585,431,365 | 1,585,439,572 | 10 | 16 | A trick I use, I make my characters based on interesting people I met irl, this way the look alive and interesting | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | 0 | 8,207 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrvj8b | flsda45 | 1,585,428,753 | 1,585,439,572 | 7 | 16 | Not a writer but l love to read, I suggest you look at the writing characterizations by an assortment of different styles/writers men and women and find your own. | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | 0 | 10,819 | 2.285714 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | fls6294 | flsda45 | 1,585,435,129 | 1,585,439,572 | 6 | 16 | A highly generalized observation: When a man encounters a problem, he likes it to be concrete, something he can compartmentalize, get down to the bottom line. He may pride himself on being direct, on rising above or looking past the little details and squabbles and social and emotional issues and just getting it done, fixing it, being the man with the plan, the man of action. When we run into something with more emotional issues surrounding it, it can throw us off. It's, like, geez, I did the steps X, Y and Z, why hasn't my intended result occurred yet? He wants to know why, and what he can do to fix it. And then when we have fixed it we can be done and move on. I'm comfortable offering this generalization because in my experience, this mindset is as easy to find in men who don't fit the traditional masculine molds (artsy sorts, theatre kids, nerdy guys) as who do (athletes, alpha males, knights, businessmen, leaders, beer-drinking suburban dad types). And it is a trait we share that be expressed in a positive way (the reliable guy you can always count on to help out) or a negative way (the guy who doesn't listen, the guy who thinks he's "earned" a date with a girl because he's nice and her boyfriend's a jerk), or even just the comically benign (the oafish suburban dad on the sitcom who can't understand why his wife had a fight with her friend or whatever). | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | 0 | 4,443 | 2.666667 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsda45 | fls1tjk | 1,585,439,572 | 1,585,432,551 | 16 | 6 | First let me open with: think of them as characters first, men second. Every man is different. That said I'll go over some of the differences. Doesn't mean all men act this way. Men are pressured by society to strong and competent. Part of this is emotions. A lot of men feel the pressure to not show or even feel "weak" emotions. It doesn't mean we don't feel those, though. A lot of men enjoy feeling strong and competent, such as from achieving a task or helping someone do something difficult (without being taken advantage of). A lot of men will have hobbies and interests that make them feel more strong and competent, be it making money, sports, reading/researching to build intelligence/knowledge, video games... Men often form friendships over common interests or doing something together. We don't usually talk about feelings even with close friends. Women are sometimes astounded that men who are really close friends for 10+ years won't know basic stuff about each other, simply because they never talked about just... "life" stuff. Very strong male bonding happens in "tough" situations. Such as the military. Men form really tight bonds when they are going through terrible stuff together. Attraction works differently for men. Men find women attractive waaay more often than women find men attractive. It doesn't mean he would want a relationship with her, or try to get with her. | Not sure if this is relevant, but I heard that when Ridley Scott and Dan O’Bannon wrote Alien (1979) they just wrote a character. They didn’t really care if it was male or female they just wrote a good character. When Sigourney Weaver came around they found her to be the most fit option so only then did the character become female. Just interesting to note that they didn’t really care what the gender of their character was. They just wrote a good story and with no gender bias in mind. It could’ve easily been a male, just as easily as they made it a female. That’s equality. | 1 | 7,021 | 2.666667 |
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