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fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flryl47 | flsepkp | 1,585,430,603 | 1,585,440,454 | 12 | 16 | The people that say some sort of special insight is required to write females, males or any demographic are, for the most part, completely full of it. Just spend some time thinking about it and write the best things you come up with. It'll be fine. We're all people. We all get jealous, happy, angry, ambitious and nostalgic. Everyone's complicated :) It depends on what you want to write, of course. If you're writing a fantasy story about some folks travelling to a volcano to destroy some magical jewelry, no special expertise is required. It DOES get problematic when for instance a man writes about a woman who only thinks she's being oppressed/groped/discriminated against, but deep down she likes it. That's going to raise some eyebrows. Or when a white person writes about super kind and benevolent white people trying to help a black man, but the black guy only wants to do crime and drugs (and he only talks in rap). That's going to turn you into a target, for good reason. I assume that's not the type of story you're trying to write :) | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | 0 | 9,851 | 1.333333 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsepkp | flrxit5 | 1,585,440,454 | 1,585,429,958 | 16 | 13 | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | yes, we do enjoy discussing breasts, but not all that much. | 1 | 10,496 | 1.230769 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsepkp | flro0l6 | 1,585,440,454 | 1,585,424,191 | 16 | 10 | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | 1 | 16,263 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsepkp | flro411 | 1,585,440,454 | 1,585,424,249 | 16 | 10 | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | 1 | 16,205 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsepkp | flrpzx2 | 1,585,440,454 | 1,585,425,395 | 16 | 11 | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | 1 | 15,059 | 1.454545 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsepkp | flrzuqx | 1,585,440,454 | 1,585,431,365 | 16 | 10 | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | A trick I use, I make my characters based on interesting people I met irl, this way the look alive and interesting | 1 | 9,089 | 1.6 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsepkp | flrvj8b | 1,585,440,454 | 1,585,428,753 | 16 | 7 | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | Not a writer but l love to read, I suggest you look at the writing characterizations by an assortment of different styles/writers men and women and find your own. | 1 | 11,701 | 2.285714 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsepkp | fls6294 | 1,585,440,454 | 1,585,435,129 | 16 | 6 | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | A highly generalized observation: When a man encounters a problem, he likes it to be concrete, something he can compartmentalize, get down to the bottom line. He may pride himself on being direct, on rising above or looking past the little details and squabbles and social and emotional issues and just getting it done, fixing it, being the man with the plan, the man of action. When we run into something with more emotional issues surrounding it, it can throw us off. It's, like, geez, I did the steps X, Y and Z, why hasn't my intended result occurred yet? He wants to know why, and what he can do to fix it. And then when we have fixed it we can be done and move on. I'm comfortable offering this generalization because in my experience, this mindset is as easy to find in men who don't fit the traditional masculine molds (artsy sorts, theatre kids, nerdy guys) as who do (athletes, alpha males, knights, businessmen, leaders, beer-drinking suburban dad types). And it is a trait we share that be expressed in a positive way (the reliable guy you can always count on to help out) or a negative way (the guy who doesn't listen, the guy who thinks he's "earned" a date with a girl because he's nice and her boyfriend's a jerk), or even just the comically benign (the oafish suburban dad on the sitcom who can't understand why his wife had a fight with her friend or whatever). | 1 | 5,325 | 2.666667 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flsepkp | fls1tjk | 1,585,440,454 | 1,585,432,551 | 16 | 6 | Not necessarily advice, but a thought of encouragement: The Outsiders), one of the books most universally praised for it's portrayal of masculine bonding and the internal strife of teenage boys in gangs, was written by a high school girl. So definitely don't second-guess your ability to write accurate male characters. | Not sure if this is relevant, but I heard that when Ridley Scott and Dan O’Bannon wrote Alien (1979) they just wrote a character. They didn’t really care if it was male or female they just wrote a good character. When Sigourney Weaver came around they found her to be the most fit option so only then did the character become female. Just interesting to note that they didn’t really care what the gender of their character was. They just wrote a good story and with no gender bias in mind. It could’ve easily been a male, just as easily as they made it a female. That’s equality. | 1 | 7,903 | 2.666667 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flro0l6 | flryl47 | 1,585,424,191 | 1,585,430,603 | 10 | 12 | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | The people that say some sort of special insight is required to write females, males or any demographic are, for the most part, completely full of it. Just spend some time thinking about it and write the best things you come up with. It'll be fine. We're all people. We all get jealous, happy, angry, ambitious and nostalgic. Everyone's complicated :) It depends on what you want to write, of course. If you're writing a fantasy story about some folks travelling to a volcano to destroy some magical jewelry, no special expertise is required. It DOES get problematic when for instance a man writes about a woman who only thinks she's being oppressed/groped/discriminated against, but deep down she likes it. That's going to raise some eyebrows. Or when a white person writes about super kind and benevolent white people trying to help a black man, but the black guy only wants to do crime and drugs (and he only talks in rap). That's going to turn you into a target, for good reason. I assume that's not the type of story you're trying to write :) | 0 | 6,412 | 1.2 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flro411 | flryl47 | 1,585,424,249 | 1,585,430,603 | 10 | 12 | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | The people that say some sort of special insight is required to write females, males or any demographic are, for the most part, completely full of it. Just spend some time thinking about it and write the best things you come up with. It'll be fine. We're all people. We all get jealous, happy, angry, ambitious and nostalgic. Everyone's complicated :) It depends on what you want to write, of course. If you're writing a fantasy story about some folks travelling to a volcano to destroy some magical jewelry, no special expertise is required. It DOES get problematic when for instance a man writes about a woman who only thinks she's being oppressed/groped/discriminated against, but deep down she likes it. That's going to raise some eyebrows. Or when a white person writes about super kind and benevolent white people trying to help a black man, but the black guy only wants to do crime and drugs (and he only talks in rap). That's going to turn you into a target, for good reason. I assume that's not the type of story you're trying to write :) | 0 | 6,354 | 1.2 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrpzx2 | flryl47 | 1,585,425,395 | 1,585,430,603 | 11 | 12 | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | The people that say some sort of special insight is required to write females, males or any demographic are, for the most part, completely full of it. Just spend some time thinking about it and write the best things you come up with. It'll be fine. We're all people. We all get jealous, happy, angry, ambitious and nostalgic. Everyone's complicated :) It depends on what you want to write, of course. If you're writing a fantasy story about some folks travelling to a volcano to destroy some magical jewelry, no special expertise is required. It DOES get problematic when for instance a man writes about a woman who only thinks she's being oppressed/groped/discriminated against, but deep down she likes it. That's going to raise some eyebrows. Or when a white person writes about super kind and benevolent white people trying to help a black man, but the black guy only wants to do crime and drugs (and he only talks in rap). That's going to turn you into a target, for good reason. I assume that's not the type of story you're trying to write :) | 0 | 5,208 | 1.090909 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flryl47 | flrvj8b | 1,585,430,603 | 1,585,428,753 | 12 | 7 | The people that say some sort of special insight is required to write females, males or any demographic are, for the most part, completely full of it. Just spend some time thinking about it and write the best things you come up with. It'll be fine. We're all people. We all get jealous, happy, angry, ambitious and nostalgic. Everyone's complicated :) It depends on what you want to write, of course. If you're writing a fantasy story about some folks travelling to a volcano to destroy some magical jewelry, no special expertise is required. It DOES get problematic when for instance a man writes about a woman who only thinks she's being oppressed/groped/discriminated against, but deep down she likes it. That's going to raise some eyebrows. Or when a white person writes about super kind and benevolent white people trying to help a black man, but the black guy only wants to do crime and drugs (and he only talks in rap). That's going to turn you into a target, for good reason. I assume that's not the type of story you're trying to write :) | Not a writer but l love to read, I suggest you look at the writing characterizations by an assortment of different styles/writers men and women and find your own. | 1 | 1,850 | 1.714286 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flro0l6 | flrxit5 | 1,585,424,191 | 1,585,429,958 | 10 | 13 | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | yes, we do enjoy discussing breasts, but not all that much. | 0 | 5,767 | 1.3 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrxit5 | flro411 | 1,585,429,958 | 1,585,424,249 | 13 | 10 | yes, we do enjoy discussing breasts, but not all that much. | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | 1 | 5,709 | 1.3 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrpzx2 | flrxit5 | 1,585,425,395 | 1,585,429,958 | 11 | 13 | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | yes, we do enjoy discussing breasts, but not all that much. | 0 | 4,563 | 1.181818 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrvj8b | flrxit5 | 1,585,428,753 | 1,585,429,958 | 7 | 13 | Not a writer but l love to read, I suggest you look at the writing characterizations by an assortment of different styles/writers men and women and find your own. | yes, we do enjoy discussing breasts, but not all that much. | 0 | 1,205 | 1.857143 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrpzx2 | flro0l6 | 1,585,425,395 | 1,585,424,191 | 11 | 10 | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | Definitely ask your male friends what they would do in specific situations. | 1 | 1,204 | 1.1 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrpzx2 | flro411 | 1,585,425,395 | 1,585,424,249 | 11 | 10 | Unless an aspect of the characters revolve around them being men, there's really no need to overthink writing them "as a man". Just write them as they are, and use masculine pronouns. | If you have him hit in the groin, no matter how it feels, it will hurt. Even if it’s a light hit, it will feel a little bad to him. | 1 | 1,146 | 1.1 | ||
fqq4x0 | writing_train | 0.98 | So I know there’s lots of advice out there about how to write good female characters, but can I have some advice about writing male characters? I, a fifteen year old female writer, want to have well-written male characters. I was hoping for some general advice on making my male characters as well-represented and accurate as possible. Thanks! | flrzuqx | flrvj8b | 1,585,431,365 | 1,585,428,753 | 10 | 7 | A trick I use, I make my characters based on interesting people I met irl, this way the look alive and interesting | Not a writer but l love to read, I suggest you look at the writing characterizations by an assortment of different styles/writers men and women and find your own. | 1 | 2,612 | 1.428571 | ||
ib9jww | writing_train | 1 | Is there something that isn't talked about in writing that you thinks need to be? Like tips or advice? I've been writing since 5th grade and started off with fanfiction. Over time, I branched off and started writing my own stories. I've got somewhat of an audience off the fanfics I write (still do a few here and there), and I was thinking of compiling some tips and things to keep in mind when writing and publishing it on a something like Wattpad. People on Wattpad are a little less vocal than most since most people just use the site for reading and not writing. So I want to know, is there something you really want to know or need help on that isn't something that already has readily available sources or tutorials on? I'm not a master author but I'd like to think going from my cringe assasination classroom fanfic to legible writing and digestible writing accounts for something. At least my grammar has improved to the point that I fight autocorrect on a daily basis. | g1tdqz7 | g1tdm37 | 1,597,649,615 | 1,597,649,480 | 15 | 3 | I think there is an overabundance of "advice" given to writers from all kinds of sources. Less experienced authors will search it out and take it as gospel. Then they'll struggle and their writing will suffer because they aren't told that this advice is situational and the trick to to know when to apply it and when to ignore it. As an example, one of the most tossed about phrases is "show, don't tell." This is shit advice on its own, because it becomes a mantra to people that they always have to show, never tell. Exposition is the devil and has no place in fiction whatsoever. Instead, it should say "know when to show and when to tell," followed by an explanation and some examples. There are only two rules I've seen that are nearly universal, although these also have exceptions: 1. Know your audience, and 2. learn discipline. I'd focus on those two more than anything, and also hammer it home that there are no hard and fast rules in creative writing. For every "rule" out there, there exists at least one successful breaking of that rule. | How to fight writer's block/writing anxiety. I dont think that gets talked about as much as it needs to be. I struggled in writing until i had a writing professor give me the best tip i ever had. He told me "writing is a war between your creative brain and your critical brain. Let your creative brain do its thing and get the idea on the page. Dont try to criticize as you write just get the idea out. Once its done then you can unleash critical brain on it later and smooth it out." Its especially important for writers who are intentionally writing for an audience. | 1 | 135 | 5 | ||
ib9jww | writing_train | 1 | Is there something that isn't talked about in writing that you thinks need to be? Like tips or advice? I've been writing since 5th grade and started off with fanfiction. Over time, I branched off and started writing my own stories. I've got somewhat of an audience off the fanfics I write (still do a few here and there), and I was thinking of compiling some tips and things to keep in mind when writing and publishing it on a something like Wattpad. People on Wattpad are a little less vocal than most since most people just use the site for reading and not writing. So I want to know, is there something you really want to know or need help on that isn't something that already has readily available sources or tutorials on? I'm not a master author but I'd like to think going from my cringe assasination classroom fanfic to legible writing and digestible writing accounts for something. At least my grammar has improved to the point that I fight autocorrect on a daily basis. | g1u4d5l | g1tq5nu | 1,597,663,075 | 1,597,656,968 | 5 | 3 | Doing your own problem solving. Watching lectures and reading "how to" books are nice base lines, but to really improve and make sure those improvements stick, you need to work out the problem on your own. One does this by analyzing your own work for the problems, analyzing what you are reading for how those authors accomplish it, and developing a method to improve. Getting your brain working rather than just being lectured to will solidify the thought and idea much stronger in your head. | I long for a blog that doesn't preach one method as gospel, but one that takes many writing styles and methods into account and describes and compares them against each other. I think the discourse has deteriorated because a lot of writers want to know "the best method" for any given thing, and then people go and reply with "*their* best method" that doesn't necessarily work for anyone else. The literary world is made up of a huge pool of easily marketable works, and then there are so many outliers in every direction that there is no universal advice that works for any and all writers/genres/stories. The only constant to writing is that the words need to be written. Everything else depends. And I want that to be reflected. That might discourage some writers who want the act of writing to be a simple three-step process, but I also think other writers are going to be empowered to explore and find their own style. If I had the time I would sit down and create such a blog myself. I also see a lot of questions about how to write dialogue, but there are probably soooo many other, better, blog posts about dialogue out there, that people just haven't bothered searching for. | 1 | 6,107 | 1.666667 | ||
ib9jww | writing_train | 1 | Is there something that isn't talked about in writing that you thinks need to be? Like tips or advice? I've been writing since 5th grade and started off with fanfiction. Over time, I branched off and started writing my own stories. I've got somewhat of an audience off the fanfics I write (still do a few here and there), and I was thinking of compiling some tips and things to keep in mind when writing and publishing it on a something like Wattpad. People on Wattpad are a little less vocal than most since most people just use the site for reading and not writing. So I want to know, is there something you really want to know or need help on that isn't something that already has readily available sources or tutorials on? I'm not a master author but I'd like to think going from my cringe assasination classroom fanfic to legible writing and digestible writing accounts for something. At least my grammar has improved to the point that I fight autocorrect on a daily basis. | g1tuw53 | g1u4d5l | 1,597,658,927 | 1,597,663,075 | 4 | 5 | To be honest most writing advice and communities is really focused on beginners, all the questions are beginner questions, all the advice is beginner advice. So if you are writer that is pretty confident with actually writing, but still need help you really don't have anywhere to go. For example my problems are pretty in depth and specific, but I'm not going to get any help for it because it's not really beginner stuff and so people on this and most other communities are not really going to know how to answer it. | Doing your own problem solving. Watching lectures and reading "how to" books are nice base lines, but to really improve and make sure those improvements stick, you need to work out the problem on your own. One does this by analyzing your own work for the problems, analyzing what you are reading for how those authors accomplish it, and developing a method to improve. Getting your brain working rather than just being lectured to will solidify the thought and idea much stronger in your head. | 0 | 4,148 | 1.25 | ||
ib9jww | writing_train | 1 | Is there something that isn't talked about in writing that you thinks need to be? Like tips or advice? I've been writing since 5th grade and started off with fanfiction. Over time, I branched off and started writing my own stories. I've got somewhat of an audience off the fanfics I write (still do a few here and there), and I was thinking of compiling some tips and things to keep in mind when writing and publishing it on a something like Wattpad. People on Wattpad are a little less vocal than most since most people just use the site for reading and not writing. So I want to know, is there something you really want to know or need help on that isn't something that already has readily available sources or tutorials on? I'm not a master author but I'd like to think going from my cringe assasination classroom fanfic to legible writing and digestible writing accounts for something. At least my grammar has improved to the point that I fight autocorrect on a daily basis. | g1tdm37 | g1u4d5l | 1,597,649,480 | 1,597,663,075 | 3 | 5 | How to fight writer's block/writing anxiety. I dont think that gets talked about as much as it needs to be. I struggled in writing until i had a writing professor give me the best tip i ever had. He told me "writing is a war between your creative brain and your critical brain. Let your creative brain do its thing and get the idea on the page. Dont try to criticize as you write just get the idea out. Once its done then you can unleash critical brain on it later and smooth it out." Its especially important for writers who are intentionally writing for an audience. | Doing your own problem solving. Watching lectures and reading "how to" books are nice base lines, but to really improve and make sure those improvements stick, you need to work out the problem on your own. One does this by analyzing your own work for the problems, analyzing what you are reading for how those authors accomplish it, and developing a method to improve. Getting your brain working rather than just being lectured to will solidify the thought and idea much stronger in your head. | 0 | 13,595 | 1.666667 | ||
ib9jww | writing_train | 1 | Is there something that isn't talked about in writing that you thinks need to be? Like tips or advice? I've been writing since 5th grade and started off with fanfiction. Over time, I branched off and started writing my own stories. I've got somewhat of an audience off the fanfics I write (still do a few here and there), and I was thinking of compiling some tips and things to keep in mind when writing and publishing it on a something like Wattpad. People on Wattpad are a little less vocal than most since most people just use the site for reading and not writing. So I want to know, is there something you really want to know or need help on that isn't something that already has readily available sources or tutorials on? I'm not a master author but I'd like to think going from my cringe assasination classroom fanfic to legible writing and digestible writing accounts for something. At least my grammar has improved to the point that I fight autocorrect on a daily basis. | g1u4d5l | g1th4sg | 1,597,663,075 | 1,597,652,601 | 5 | 3 | Doing your own problem solving. Watching lectures and reading "how to" books are nice base lines, but to really improve and make sure those improvements stick, you need to work out the problem on your own. One does this by analyzing your own work for the problems, analyzing what you are reading for how those authors accomplish it, and developing a method to improve. Getting your brain working rather than just being lectured to will solidify the thought and idea much stronger in your head. | How to learn accurate writing. A lot of people don't want to proofread until their final draft, but inaccurate writing -- talking spelling, grammar and punctuation here, particularly fiction dialogue formatting -- can be quite difficult even to read through for critique. I must admit I've never had a problem with this, but it seems important to make sure people are producing clean copy almost automatically, otherwise people find it hard to give feedback on the story. Also, proofreading a hundred thousand words full of known errors is stressful, and you won't catch them all. Getting work to the point where it's precise as possible as it comes off your fingertips is really important even in stages prior to a final draft. | 1 | 10,474 | 1.666667 | ||
ib9jww | writing_train | 1 | Is there something that isn't talked about in writing that you thinks need to be? Like tips or advice? I've been writing since 5th grade and started off with fanfiction. Over time, I branched off and started writing my own stories. I've got somewhat of an audience off the fanfics I write (still do a few here and there), and I was thinking of compiling some tips and things to keep in mind when writing and publishing it on a something like Wattpad. People on Wattpad are a little less vocal than most since most people just use the site for reading and not writing. So I want to know, is there something you really want to know or need help on that isn't something that already has readily available sources or tutorials on? I'm not a master author but I'd like to think going from my cringe assasination classroom fanfic to legible writing and digestible writing accounts for something. At least my grammar has improved to the point that I fight autocorrect on a daily basis. | g1tuw53 | g1tq5nu | 1,597,658,927 | 1,597,656,968 | 4 | 3 | To be honest most writing advice and communities is really focused on beginners, all the questions are beginner questions, all the advice is beginner advice. So if you are writer that is pretty confident with actually writing, but still need help you really don't have anywhere to go. For example my problems are pretty in depth and specific, but I'm not going to get any help for it because it's not really beginner stuff and so people on this and most other communities are not really going to know how to answer it. | I long for a blog that doesn't preach one method as gospel, but one that takes many writing styles and methods into account and describes and compares them against each other. I think the discourse has deteriorated because a lot of writers want to know "the best method" for any given thing, and then people go and reply with "*their* best method" that doesn't necessarily work for anyone else. The literary world is made up of a huge pool of easily marketable works, and then there are so many outliers in every direction that there is no universal advice that works for any and all writers/genres/stories. The only constant to writing is that the words need to be written. Everything else depends. And I want that to be reflected. That might discourage some writers who want the act of writing to be a simple three-step process, but I also think other writers are going to be empowered to explore and find their own style. If I had the time I would sit down and create such a blog myself. I also see a lot of questions about how to write dialogue, but there are probably soooo many other, better, blog posts about dialogue out there, that people just haven't bothered searching for. | 1 | 1,959 | 1.333333 | ||
ib9jww | writing_train | 1 | Is there something that isn't talked about in writing that you thinks need to be? Like tips or advice? I've been writing since 5th grade and started off with fanfiction. Over time, I branched off and started writing my own stories. I've got somewhat of an audience off the fanfics I write (still do a few here and there), and I was thinking of compiling some tips and things to keep in mind when writing and publishing it on a something like Wattpad. People on Wattpad are a little less vocal than most since most people just use the site for reading and not writing. So I want to know, is there something you really want to know or need help on that isn't something that already has readily available sources or tutorials on? I'm not a master author but I'd like to think going from my cringe assasination classroom fanfic to legible writing and digestible writing accounts for something. At least my grammar has improved to the point that I fight autocorrect on a daily basis. | g1tuw53 | g1tdm37 | 1,597,658,927 | 1,597,649,480 | 4 | 3 | To be honest most writing advice and communities is really focused on beginners, all the questions are beginner questions, all the advice is beginner advice. So if you are writer that is pretty confident with actually writing, but still need help you really don't have anywhere to go. For example my problems are pretty in depth and specific, but I'm not going to get any help for it because it's not really beginner stuff and so people on this and most other communities are not really going to know how to answer it. | How to fight writer's block/writing anxiety. I dont think that gets talked about as much as it needs to be. I struggled in writing until i had a writing professor give me the best tip i ever had. He told me "writing is a war between your creative brain and your critical brain. Let your creative brain do its thing and get the idea on the page. Dont try to criticize as you write just get the idea out. Once its done then you can unleash critical brain on it later and smooth it out." Its especially important for writers who are intentionally writing for an audience. | 1 | 9,447 | 1.333333 | ||
ib9jww | writing_train | 1 | Is there something that isn't talked about in writing that you thinks need to be? Like tips or advice? I've been writing since 5th grade and started off with fanfiction. Over time, I branched off and started writing my own stories. I've got somewhat of an audience off the fanfics I write (still do a few here and there), and I was thinking of compiling some tips and things to keep in mind when writing and publishing it on a something like Wattpad. People on Wattpad are a little less vocal than most since most people just use the site for reading and not writing. So I want to know, is there something you really want to know or need help on that isn't something that already has readily available sources or tutorials on? I'm not a master author but I'd like to think going from my cringe assasination classroom fanfic to legible writing and digestible writing accounts for something. At least my grammar has improved to the point that I fight autocorrect on a daily basis. | g1tuw53 | g1th4sg | 1,597,658,927 | 1,597,652,601 | 4 | 3 | To be honest most writing advice and communities is really focused on beginners, all the questions are beginner questions, all the advice is beginner advice. So if you are writer that is pretty confident with actually writing, but still need help you really don't have anywhere to go. For example my problems are pretty in depth and specific, but I'm not going to get any help for it because it's not really beginner stuff and so people on this and most other communities are not really going to know how to answer it. | How to learn accurate writing. A lot of people don't want to proofread until their final draft, but inaccurate writing -- talking spelling, grammar and punctuation here, particularly fiction dialogue formatting -- can be quite difficult even to read through for critique. I must admit I've never had a problem with this, but it seems important to make sure people are producing clean copy almost automatically, otherwise people find it hard to give feedback on the story. Also, proofreading a hundred thousand words full of known errors is stressful, and you won't catch them all. Getting work to the point where it's precise as possible as it comes off your fingertips is really important even in stages prior to a final draft. | 1 | 6,326 | 1.333333 | ||
qnsv55 | writing_train | 0.72 | There is a point at which all advice will fail you and that's when you're ready to write for an audience Has it ever struck you as odd that there are maybe three books that people recommend to novelists? With no so many writers out there, writing so many different kinds of novel, it seems strange that just a couple of 'how to' books would rise to the surface. There are thousands of 'how to' books out there, but just a few famous ones. Or maybe you're getting writing advice from YouTube videos. Have you noticed that they all tell you the same five-seven things? Show don't tell, hero's journey, three-act structure, read more, etc. It seems impossible that a craft this old would have so little advice going around. Well, here's the dirt. All of that advice is for Apprentices. Apprentice writers turn out work so bad that one wonders if they actually speak the language that they are writing in. They struggle to finish anything because nothing they write has any momentum. The characters aren't developed enough to keep stepping forward and the conflict isn't defined enough to draw them in. Apprentice-level stories are amorphous blobs of idea. Every book or lecture about how to write fiction is aimed at getting those blobs to stand on their own. The people who *can* follow all of that advice are Journeyman writers. Journeymen still get a lot of value from advice books and lectures because their instincts veer them off course and revisiting the three-act structure provides noticeable improvements to their writing. Journeyman stories are serviceable, but they generally lack voice, confidence, and precision. They're nothing special. Master writers are the people who have found their voice, know their audience, and write books that are definably about something. You read the whole story feeling like you understand why the characters are doing what they're doing. This is the point at which you have a realistic hope of getting published. Masters have all of that advice memorized and are in the process of understanding *why* those rules are the rules. That's important to learn because once you know what the rule is accomplishing, you can get away with breaking it. And that's where the Grand Masters come in. These are the writers who have no apparent regard for Joseph Campbell and look a little exasperated when they know someone is about to say "show, don't tell". They break the rules and produce better books than the people following them because they have learned the true lesson of the rules. So, at some point, the widely available advice is going to fail you. The good news is that this means you're close to being a master writer. The bad news is that you are now on your own. The only people who can help you, now, are people who are going to get paid to do so. Good luck. | hjj6829 | hjim60e | 1,636,192,253 | 1,636,176,480 | 5 | 2 | I also think there’s a point, because certainly I reached it, at which you’re reading all of these books and looking at videos and attending conferences and joining groups and doing everything but…writing. They are people who talk about wanting to be a writer and will do everything to make it appear that that’s true and then there are those who actually become writers because they write. Eventually you’re going to have to start writing and no amount of research is ever going to substitute for putting fingers to keys or pen to paper or whatever medium you use. Start writing! | I came in thinking this was going to be a rant and left very motivated! I'm not sure I can ever leave my humbleness at the door and call myself a master at anything, but I'm happy with a journeyman title for now. I think this advice/not advice is solid. Eventually, a writer comes across all the answers she needs, and when she still asks questions, then it's time to just write. The business hasn't changed THAT much in the last century to warrant all new advice on things. What would be more helpful is finding reliable sources on trends and niches, but that's a different story! Thank you for your input :) | 1 | 15,773 | 2.5 | ||
qnsv55 | writing_train | 0.72 | There is a point at which all advice will fail you and that's when you're ready to write for an audience Has it ever struck you as odd that there are maybe three books that people recommend to novelists? With no so many writers out there, writing so many different kinds of novel, it seems strange that just a couple of 'how to' books would rise to the surface. There are thousands of 'how to' books out there, but just a few famous ones. Or maybe you're getting writing advice from YouTube videos. Have you noticed that they all tell you the same five-seven things? Show don't tell, hero's journey, three-act structure, read more, etc. It seems impossible that a craft this old would have so little advice going around. Well, here's the dirt. All of that advice is for Apprentices. Apprentice writers turn out work so bad that one wonders if they actually speak the language that they are writing in. They struggle to finish anything because nothing they write has any momentum. The characters aren't developed enough to keep stepping forward and the conflict isn't defined enough to draw them in. Apprentice-level stories are amorphous blobs of idea. Every book or lecture about how to write fiction is aimed at getting those blobs to stand on their own. The people who *can* follow all of that advice are Journeyman writers. Journeymen still get a lot of value from advice books and lectures because their instincts veer them off course and revisiting the three-act structure provides noticeable improvements to their writing. Journeyman stories are serviceable, but they generally lack voice, confidence, and precision. They're nothing special. Master writers are the people who have found their voice, know their audience, and write books that are definably about something. You read the whole story feeling like you understand why the characters are doing what they're doing. This is the point at which you have a realistic hope of getting published. Masters have all of that advice memorized and are in the process of understanding *why* those rules are the rules. That's important to learn because once you know what the rule is accomplishing, you can get away with breaking it. And that's where the Grand Masters come in. These are the writers who have no apparent regard for Joseph Campbell and look a little exasperated when they know someone is about to say "show, don't tell". They break the rules and produce better books than the people following them because they have learned the true lesson of the rules. So, at some point, the widely available advice is going to fail you. The good news is that this means you're close to being a master writer. The bad news is that you are now on your own. The only people who can help you, now, are people who are going to get paid to do so. Good luck. | hjipxh0 | hjj6829 | 1,636,179,249 | 1,636,192,253 | 2 | 5 | Well put. I think this is true of many, if not all skills and disciplines in life. Someone is going to debate you (welcome to the internet), but I agree. The better you know The Rules, the more often you'll see master craftspeople breaking them. | I also think there’s a point, because certainly I reached it, at which you’re reading all of these books and looking at videos and attending conferences and joining groups and doing everything but…writing. They are people who talk about wanting to be a writer and will do everything to make it appear that that’s true and then there are those who actually become writers because they write. Eventually you’re going to have to start writing and no amount of research is ever going to substitute for putting fingers to keys or pen to paper or whatever medium you use. Start writing! | 0 | 13,004 | 2.5 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwda1vn | iwd6862 | 1,668,456,320 | 1,668,454,836 | 10 | 5 | You know the thing of what a character wants and what a character needs? Maybe what you wanted was the payment, but what you needed was to write all down, and now that you have, you don't feel the need anymore. | Just stop, put it away and if you want to go back to it later you can. Mostly, think of it as a learning experience, for what you want to be as a writer. You already recognize things you think others won't like. How can you change that? What was good, that you like and think others would, and what was bad? Don't think of it as a waste, but as experience. And remember, you can always reuse/rework some of the good stuff in other stories you write. | 1 | 1,484 | 2 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwda1vn | iwd9zbs | 1,668,456,320 | 1,668,456,292 | 10 | 3 | You know the thing of what a character wants and what a character needs? Maybe what you wanted was the payment, but what you needed was to write all down, and now that you have, you don't feel the need anymore. | It is okay to stop. It sounds like you're done using yourself like that. | 1 | 28 | 3.333333 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwda1vn | iwd68ur | 1,668,456,320 | 1,668,454,843 | 10 | 2 | You know the thing of what a character wants and what a character needs? Maybe what you wanted was the payment, but what you needed was to write all down, and now that you have, you don't feel the need anymore. | I would never write something if I didn't enjoy it when taken as a whole, and I would never share it unless I was happy to receive any and all attention, negative or positive. Even the negative is either irrelevant or useful for learning. That might not be the case in your situation. | 1 | 1,477 | 5 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwda1vn | iwd8tj4 | 1,668,456,320 | 1,668,455,844 | 10 | 1 | You know the thing of what a character wants and what a character needs? Maybe what you wanted was the payment, but what you needed was to write all down, and now that you have, you don't feel the need anymore. | That’s a lot of work to discard. If it’s really close to done could you give it to another writer you trust with instructions to change telling details? If you split any proceeds you’re better off, financially speaking, than you were. And the beast is off your todo list. | 1 | 476 | 10 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwd6862 | iwg4jty | 1,668,454,836 | 1,668,512,288 | 5 | 7 | Just stop, put it away and if you want to go back to it later you can. Mostly, think of it as a learning experience, for what you want to be as a writer. You already recognize things you think others won't like. How can you change that? What was good, that you like and think others would, and what was bad? Don't think of it as a waste, but as experience. And remember, you can always reuse/rework some of the good stuff in other stories you write. | This reminds me of the episode "good damage" from Bojack Horseman. It might be worth watching, it helped me put down my 90K word millstone of a project. Basically the episode has a writer who had a shitty childhood and tried to turn that pain into art, to make something amazing. So her damage would be 'good damage'. She's miserable and struggling the entire time, and when she's screwing around procrastinating she writes something silly about a teenage food court detective. Even though it comes easier to her and people like it, she hates the story, because what was the point of all that suffering if it didn't amount to anything? In the end, she has to learn that sometimes we suffer for no reason, that just because you've put so much of yourself into something doesn't make it worth holding onto. Sometimes you're just hurting yourself and you're not letting go because you've convinced yourself the pain makes it worth something. There is no good damage. There never was. Go write something that makes you happy. | 0 | 57,452 | 1.4 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwg4jty | iwd9zbs | 1,668,512,288 | 1,668,456,292 | 7 | 3 | This reminds me of the episode "good damage" from Bojack Horseman. It might be worth watching, it helped me put down my 90K word millstone of a project. Basically the episode has a writer who had a shitty childhood and tried to turn that pain into art, to make something amazing. So her damage would be 'good damage'. She's miserable and struggling the entire time, and when she's screwing around procrastinating she writes something silly about a teenage food court detective. Even though it comes easier to her and people like it, she hates the story, because what was the point of all that suffering if it didn't amount to anything? In the end, she has to learn that sometimes we suffer for no reason, that just because you've put so much of yourself into something doesn't make it worth holding onto. Sometimes you're just hurting yourself and you're not letting go because you've convinced yourself the pain makes it worth something. There is no good damage. There never was. Go write something that makes you happy. | It is okay to stop. It sounds like you're done using yourself like that. | 1 | 55,996 | 2.333333 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwd68ur | iwg4jty | 1,668,454,843 | 1,668,512,288 | 2 | 7 | I would never write something if I didn't enjoy it when taken as a whole, and I would never share it unless I was happy to receive any and all attention, negative or positive. Even the negative is either irrelevant or useful for learning. That might not be the case in your situation. | This reminds me of the episode "good damage" from Bojack Horseman. It might be worth watching, it helped me put down my 90K word millstone of a project. Basically the episode has a writer who had a shitty childhood and tried to turn that pain into art, to make something amazing. So her damage would be 'good damage'. She's miserable and struggling the entire time, and when she's screwing around procrastinating she writes something silly about a teenage food court detective. Even though it comes easier to her and people like it, she hates the story, because what was the point of all that suffering if it didn't amount to anything? In the end, she has to learn that sometimes we suffer for no reason, that just because you've put so much of yourself into something doesn't make it worth holding onto. Sometimes you're just hurting yourself and you're not letting go because you've convinced yourself the pain makes it worth something. There is no good damage. There never was. Go write something that makes you happy. | 0 | 57,445 | 3.5 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwg4jty | iweg1cf | 1,668,512,288 | 1,668,473,962 | 7 | 2 | This reminds me of the episode "good damage" from Bojack Horseman. It might be worth watching, it helped me put down my 90K word millstone of a project. Basically the episode has a writer who had a shitty childhood and tried to turn that pain into art, to make something amazing. So her damage would be 'good damage'. She's miserable and struggling the entire time, and when she's screwing around procrastinating she writes something silly about a teenage food court detective. Even though it comes easier to her and people like it, she hates the story, because what was the point of all that suffering if it didn't amount to anything? In the end, she has to learn that sometimes we suffer for no reason, that just because you've put so much of yourself into something doesn't make it worth holding onto. Sometimes you're just hurting yourself and you're not letting go because you've convinced yourself the pain makes it worth something. There is no good damage. There never was. Go write something that makes you happy. | Do you need to try to fictionalize more of the things that are too close to reality? Would that reduce your guilty feelings and potential for chaos? | 1 | 38,326 | 3.5 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwg4jty | iwfqi6q | 1,668,512,288 | 1,668,499,931 | 7 | 1 | This reminds me of the episode "good damage" from Bojack Horseman. It might be worth watching, it helped me put down my 90K word millstone of a project. Basically the episode has a writer who had a shitty childhood and tried to turn that pain into art, to make something amazing. So her damage would be 'good damage'. She's miserable and struggling the entire time, and when she's screwing around procrastinating she writes something silly about a teenage food court detective. Even though it comes easier to her and people like it, she hates the story, because what was the point of all that suffering if it didn't amount to anything? In the end, she has to learn that sometimes we suffer for no reason, that just because you've put so much of yourself into something doesn't make it worth holding onto. Sometimes you're just hurting yourself and you're not letting go because you've convinced yourself the pain makes it worth something. There is no good damage. There never was. Go write something that makes you happy. | K | 1 | 12,357 | 7 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwd8tj4 | iwg4jty | 1,668,455,844 | 1,668,512,288 | 1 | 7 | That’s a lot of work to discard. If it’s really close to done could you give it to another writer you trust with instructions to change telling details? If you split any proceeds you’re better off, financially speaking, than you were. And the beast is off your todo list. | This reminds me of the episode "good damage" from Bojack Horseman. It might be worth watching, it helped me put down my 90K word millstone of a project. Basically the episode has a writer who had a shitty childhood and tried to turn that pain into art, to make something amazing. So her damage would be 'good damage'. She's miserable and struggling the entire time, and when she's screwing around procrastinating she writes something silly about a teenage food court detective. Even though it comes easier to her and people like it, she hates the story, because what was the point of all that suffering if it didn't amount to anything? In the end, she has to learn that sometimes we suffer for no reason, that just because you've put so much of yourself into something doesn't make it worth holding onto. Sometimes you're just hurting yourself and you're not letting go because you've convinced yourself the pain makes it worth something. There is no good damage. There never was. Go write something that makes you happy. | 0 | 56,444 | 7 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwg4jty | iwdwfem | 1,668,512,288 | 1,668,465,260 | 7 | 1 | This reminds me of the episode "good damage" from Bojack Horseman. It might be worth watching, it helped me put down my 90K word millstone of a project. Basically the episode has a writer who had a shitty childhood and tried to turn that pain into art, to make something amazing. So her damage would be 'good damage'. She's miserable and struggling the entire time, and when she's screwing around procrastinating she writes something silly about a teenage food court detective. Even though it comes easier to her and people like it, she hates the story, because what was the point of all that suffering if it didn't amount to anything? In the end, she has to learn that sometimes we suffer for no reason, that just because you've put so much of yourself into something doesn't make it worth holding onto. Sometimes you're just hurting yourself and you're not letting go because you've convinced yourself the pain makes it worth something. There is no good damage. There never was. Go write something that makes you happy. | Just write (your new stories after you just stop this one) | 1 | 47,028 | 7 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwev7u6 | iwg4jty | 1,668,480,743 | 1,668,512,288 | 1 | 7 | If you not enjoy don't do. Read good novels for inspiration. To be youself not your idol. | This reminds me of the episode "good damage" from Bojack Horseman. It might be worth watching, it helped me put down my 90K word millstone of a project. Basically the episode has a writer who had a shitty childhood and tried to turn that pain into art, to make something amazing. So her damage would be 'good damage'. She's miserable and struggling the entire time, and when she's screwing around procrastinating she writes something silly about a teenage food court detective. Even though it comes easier to her and people like it, she hates the story, because what was the point of all that suffering if it didn't amount to anything? In the end, she has to learn that sometimes we suffer for no reason, that just because you've put so much of yourself into something doesn't make it worth holding onto. Sometimes you're just hurting yourself and you're not letting go because you've convinced yourself the pain makes it worth something. There is no good damage. There never was. Go write something that makes you happy. | 0 | 31,545 | 7 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwd68ur | iwd9zbs | 1,668,454,843 | 1,668,456,292 | 2 | 3 | I would never write something if I didn't enjoy it when taken as a whole, and I would never share it unless I was happy to receive any and all attention, negative or positive. Even the negative is either irrelevant or useful for learning. That might not be the case in your situation. | It is okay to stop. It sounds like you're done using yourself like that. | 0 | 1,449 | 1.5 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwd8tj4 | iwd9zbs | 1,668,455,844 | 1,668,456,292 | 1 | 3 | That’s a lot of work to discard. If it’s really close to done could you give it to another writer you trust with instructions to change telling details? If you split any proceeds you’re better off, financially speaking, than you were. And the beast is off your todo list. | It is okay to stop. It sounds like you're done using yourself like that. | 0 | 448 | 3 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwd68ur | iwgu3i9 | 1,668,454,843 | 1,668,525,796 | 2 | 3 | I would never write something if I didn't enjoy it when taken as a whole, and I would never share it unless I was happy to receive any and all attention, negative or positive. Even the negative is either irrelevant or useful for learning. That might not be the case in your situation. | Disregard all external factors and ask yourself what you really want to do. Forget all the critique, all the judgement, all the money, and all the people. If there were no problems you had to face in any of these sectors, would you still continue? why did you start in the first place? think about it. if you still feel like not continuing... let it go. Stop writing, take a break. Sometimes that's all you need. When writing, you have to be writing for yourself before you consider anyone at all. I get that criticism is hard to deal with. People irl are even more difficult. But you have to believe in your work. That's really the key to starting AND completing your book. Look for inspiration. Maybe watch masterclasses of established authors like Neil Gaiman. Or read books, watch movies, visit places, talk to strangers, etc. Maybe something out there will help rekindle the spark. If you decide to take a break, you can still always return back to the draft and rewrite or continue it. What I really wouldn't recommend is that you delete your work. Keep it safe. Maybe even let it stay published on wattpad. It doesn't matter that you will never return to those pages. What matters is that you wrote them. If other ideas interest you better, go for them. But make sure whatever you start next, you see it to the end. You really don't want to be a seriel quitter who doesn't ever finish a book. Also if you're worried about people irl reading your work or if that Wattpad won't be paying you, but have built a readership, then you can start a patreon where you send out chapters. Hope this helps!! | 0 | 70,953 | 1.5 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwgu3i9 | iweg1cf | 1,668,525,796 | 1,668,473,962 | 3 | 2 | Disregard all external factors and ask yourself what you really want to do. Forget all the critique, all the judgement, all the money, and all the people. If there were no problems you had to face in any of these sectors, would you still continue? why did you start in the first place? think about it. if you still feel like not continuing... let it go. Stop writing, take a break. Sometimes that's all you need. When writing, you have to be writing for yourself before you consider anyone at all. I get that criticism is hard to deal with. People irl are even more difficult. But you have to believe in your work. That's really the key to starting AND completing your book. Look for inspiration. Maybe watch masterclasses of established authors like Neil Gaiman. Or read books, watch movies, visit places, talk to strangers, etc. Maybe something out there will help rekindle the spark. If you decide to take a break, you can still always return back to the draft and rewrite or continue it. What I really wouldn't recommend is that you delete your work. Keep it safe. Maybe even let it stay published on wattpad. It doesn't matter that you will never return to those pages. What matters is that you wrote them. If other ideas interest you better, go for them. But make sure whatever you start next, you see it to the end. You really don't want to be a seriel quitter who doesn't ever finish a book. Also if you're worried about people irl reading your work or if that Wattpad won't be paying you, but have built a readership, then you can start a patreon where you send out chapters. Hope this helps!! | Do you need to try to fictionalize more of the things that are too close to reality? Would that reduce your guilty feelings and potential for chaos? | 1 | 51,834 | 1.5 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwfqi6q | iwgu3i9 | 1,668,499,931 | 1,668,525,796 | 1 | 3 | K | Disregard all external factors and ask yourself what you really want to do. Forget all the critique, all the judgement, all the money, and all the people. If there were no problems you had to face in any of these sectors, would you still continue? why did you start in the first place? think about it. if you still feel like not continuing... let it go. Stop writing, take a break. Sometimes that's all you need. When writing, you have to be writing for yourself before you consider anyone at all. I get that criticism is hard to deal with. People irl are even more difficult. But you have to believe in your work. That's really the key to starting AND completing your book. Look for inspiration. Maybe watch masterclasses of established authors like Neil Gaiman. Or read books, watch movies, visit places, talk to strangers, etc. Maybe something out there will help rekindle the spark. If you decide to take a break, you can still always return back to the draft and rewrite or continue it. What I really wouldn't recommend is that you delete your work. Keep it safe. Maybe even let it stay published on wattpad. It doesn't matter that you will never return to those pages. What matters is that you wrote them. If other ideas interest you better, go for them. But make sure whatever you start next, you see it to the end. You really don't want to be a seriel quitter who doesn't ever finish a book. Also if you're worried about people irl reading your work or if that Wattpad won't be paying you, but have built a readership, then you can start a patreon where you send out chapters. Hope this helps!! | 0 | 25,865 | 3 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwd8tj4 | iwgu3i9 | 1,668,455,844 | 1,668,525,796 | 1 | 3 | That’s a lot of work to discard. If it’s really close to done could you give it to another writer you trust with instructions to change telling details? If you split any proceeds you’re better off, financially speaking, than you were. And the beast is off your todo list. | Disregard all external factors and ask yourself what you really want to do. Forget all the critique, all the judgement, all the money, and all the people. If there were no problems you had to face in any of these sectors, would you still continue? why did you start in the first place? think about it. if you still feel like not continuing... let it go. Stop writing, take a break. Sometimes that's all you need. When writing, you have to be writing for yourself before you consider anyone at all. I get that criticism is hard to deal with. People irl are even more difficult. But you have to believe in your work. That's really the key to starting AND completing your book. Look for inspiration. Maybe watch masterclasses of established authors like Neil Gaiman. Or read books, watch movies, visit places, talk to strangers, etc. Maybe something out there will help rekindle the spark. If you decide to take a break, you can still always return back to the draft and rewrite or continue it. What I really wouldn't recommend is that you delete your work. Keep it safe. Maybe even let it stay published on wattpad. It doesn't matter that you will never return to those pages. What matters is that you wrote them. If other ideas interest you better, go for them. But make sure whatever you start next, you see it to the end. You really don't want to be a seriel quitter who doesn't ever finish a book. Also if you're worried about people irl reading your work or if that Wattpad won't be paying you, but have built a readership, then you can start a patreon where you send out chapters. Hope this helps!! | 0 | 69,952 | 3 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwgu3i9 | iwdwfem | 1,668,525,796 | 1,668,465,260 | 3 | 1 | Disregard all external factors and ask yourself what you really want to do. Forget all the critique, all the judgement, all the money, and all the people. If there were no problems you had to face in any of these sectors, would you still continue? why did you start in the first place? think about it. if you still feel like not continuing... let it go. Stop writing, take a break. Sometimes that's all you need. When writing, you have to be writing for yourself before you consider anyone at all. I get that criticism is hard to deal with. People irl are even more difficult. But you have to believe in your work. That's really the key to starting AND completing your book. Look for inspiration. Maybe watch masterclasses of established authors like Neil Gaiman. Or read books, watch movies, visit places, talk to strangers, etc. Maybe something out there will help rekindle the spark. If you decide to take a break, you can still always return back to the draft and rewrite or continue it. What I really wouldn't recommend is that you delete your work. Keep it safe. Maybe even let it stay published on wattpad. It doesn't matter that you will never return to those pages. What matters is that you wrote them. If other ideas interest you better, go for them. But make sure whatever you start next, you see it to the end. You really don't want to be a seriel quitter who doesn't ever finish a book. Also if you're worried about people irl reading your work or if that Wattpad won't be paying you, but have built a readership, then you can start a patreon where you send out chapters. Hope this helps!! | Just write (your new stories after you just stop this one) | 1 | 60,536 | 3 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwgu3i9 | iwev7u6 | 1,668,525,796 | 1,668,480,743 | 3 | 1 | Disregard all external factors and ask yourself what you really want to do. Forget all the critique, all the judgement, all the money, and all the people. If there were no problems you had to face in any of these sectors, would you still continue? why did you start in the first place? think about it. if you still feel like not continuing... let it go. Stop writing, take a break. Sometimes that's all you need. When writing, you have to be writing for yourself before you consider anyone at all. I get that criticism is hard to deal with. People irl are even more difficult. But you have to believe in your work. That's really the key to starting AND completing your book. Look for inspiration. Maybe watch masterclasses of established authors like Neil Gaiman. Or read books, watch movies, visit places, talk to strangers, etc. Maybe something out there will help rekindle the spark. If you decide to take a break, you can still always return back to the draft and rewrite or continue it. What I really wouldn't recommend is that you delete your work. Keep it safe. Maybe even let it stay published on wattpad. It doesn't matter that you will never return to those pages. What matters is that you wrote them. If other ideas interest you better, go for them. But make sure whatever you start next, you see it to the end. You really don't want to be a seriel quitter who doesn't ever finish a book. Also if you're worried about people irl reading your work or if that Wattpad won't be paying you, but have built a readership, then you can start a patreon where you send out chapters. Hope this helps!! | If you not enjoy don't do. Read good novels for inspiration. To be youself not your idol. | 1 | 45,053 | 3 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwd8tj4 | iweg1cf | 1,668,455,844 | 1,668,473,962 | 1 | 2 | That’s a lot of work to discard. If it’s really close to done could you give it to another writer you trust with instructions to change telling details? If you split any proceeds you’re better off, financially speaking, than you were. And the beast is off your todo list. | Do you need to try to fictionalize more of the things that are too close to reality? Would that reduce your guilty feelings and potential for chaos? | 0 | 18,118 | 2 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iweg1cf | iwdwfem | 1,668,473,962 | 1,668,465,260 | 2 | 1 | Do you need to try to fictionalize more of the things that are too close to reality? Would that reduce your guilty feelings and potential for chaos? | Just write (your new stories after you just stop this one) | 1 | 8,702 | 2 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwfqi6q | iwh611w | 1,668,499,931 | 1,668,530,572 | 1 | 2 | K | In stories you often have a turn of events. It sounds like you need some fresh new ideas. Maybe you are ready to get more into healing? So maybe the characters in your book are too! I truely believe people can learn real lessons from stories and OP no one IRL need to read your book. It sounds like you have some fears and that is good. You now have reached one of your goals. Set new ones! Look at the bits in your story that you fear and maybe when you continue writing fall back on it and make positive changes/add new characters if you can. It is oke to be and an writer and have a career. You have a pen name, people do not need to know you write. It is art. It is yours. Goodluck OP. Do not forget to believe in yourself and do what you enjoy (especially in your free time). | 0 | 30,641 | 2 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwh611w | iwd8tj4 | 1,668,530,572 | 1,668,455,844 | 2 | 1 | In stories you often have a turn of events. It sounds like you need some fresh new ideas. Maybe you are ready to get more into healing? So maybe the characters in your book are too! I truely believe people can learn real lessons from stories and OP no one IRL need to read your book. It sounds like you have some fears and that is good. You now have reached one of your goals. Set new ones! Look at the bits in your story that you fear and maybe when you continue writing fall back on it and make positive changes/add new characters if you can. It is oke to be and an writer and have a career. You have a pen name, people do not need to know you write. It is art. It is yours. Goodluck OP. Do not forget to believe in yourself and do what you enjoy (especially in your free time). | That’s a lot of work to discard. If it’s really close to done could you give it to another writer you trust with instructions to change telling details? If you split any proceeds you’re better off, financially speaking, than you were. And the beast is off your todo list. | 1 | 74,728 | 2 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwdwfem | iwh611w | 1,668,465,260 | 1,668,530,572 | 1 | 2 | Just write (your new stories after you just stop this one) | In stories you often have a turn of events. It sounds like you need some fresh new ideas. Maybe you are ready to get more into healing? So maybe the characters in your book are too! I truely believe people can learn real lessons from stories and OP no one IRL need to read your book. It sounds like you have some fears and that is good. You now have reached one of your goals. Set new ones! Look at the bits in your story that you fear and maybe when you continue writing fall back on it and make positive changes/add new characters if you can. It is oke to be and an writer and have a career. You have a pen name, people do not need to know you write. It is art. It is yours. Goodluck OP. Do not forget to believe in yourself and do what you enjoy (especially in your free time). | 0 | 65,312 | 2 | ||
yv9hwp | writing_train | 0.69 | I want to stop writing my book So, I've been writing this novel for Wattpad, hoping to be a part of "paid stories". I'm almost at 50,000 words, thus making it finally eligible for paid stories. This novel hasn't been the easiest to write. I took so many aspects of my life and inserted them into my novel– all that trauma and grief. But, I also took from reality and wrote something that if it got in the hands of the people I go to college with, chaos would ensue. My problem is that I have so many reasons to stop writing this. I'm tired of referring to my feelings of heartache to write it. I'm tired of seeing the critique on Colleen Hoover's writing style because it's so similar to mine and discouraging. I'm tired of the guilt I feel while writing this story. I keep on feeling like I've done something wrong. Hell, I've written it under a pen name. It's not my preferred genre to write either. Though, I like to read adult fiction, I'd love to write science fiction. I'm a stem major. I have so many other story ideas that would be worth more of my time, and they could be written under my real name, and traced back to my future career. I'd just like some advice, words of motivation, anything really. I appreciate you taking the time to read this! | iwh611w | iwev7u6 | 1,668,530,572 | 1,668,480,743 | 2 | 1 | In stories you often have a turn of events. It sounds like you need some fresh new ideas. Maybe you are ready to get more into healing? So maybe the characters in your book are too! I truely believe people can learn real lessons from stories and OP no one IRL need to read your book. It sounds like you have some fears and that is good. You now have reached one of your goals. Set new ones! Look at the bits in your story that you fear and maybe when you continue writing fall back on it and make positive changes/add new characters if you can. It is oke to be and an writer and have a career. You have a pen name, people do not need to know you write. It is art. It is yours. Goodluck OP. Do not forget to believe in yourself and do what you enjoy (especially in your free time). | If you not enjoy don't do. Read good novels for inspiration. To be youself not your idol. | 1 | 49,829 | 2 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gycfyuk | gyc56ot | 1,621,186,172 | 1,621,181,350 | 33 | 27 | Without naming names, some of the worst errors I've run across have been: * Mistaking their unsupported opinions for facts, and pretending facts are someone else's opinion. This is an almost surefire method to render an essay unconvincing to the target audience. * Preaching at readers, or worse: railing at people who will never be their readers, in anything promoted as entertainment. * When conducting research, stopping midway through a work because they're happy with the sentence they've found. * When coopting an unfamiliar subculture, forgetting that the surface aesthetics are meaningless without any understanding of how the underlying beliefs and attitudes came to be expressed that way. I.e., being a poser. * Outside of speculative fiction: demanding that the general audience use common words and terms the way the writer and their social bubble have redefined them. Leave technical jargon to the field's journals. | Even if everyone read the exact same things, I think you would get wildly different answers. You can't please everyone and stories rarely displease everyone. But bad grammar is one of the things that I can't abide, though that's more of an editing thing I suppose. | 1 | 4,822 | 1.222222 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gycfyuk | gyc5kp1 | 1,621,186,172 | 1,621,181,536 | 33 | 16 | Without naming names, some of the worst errors I've run across have been: * Mistaking their unsupported opinions for facts, and pretending facts are someone else's opinion. This is an almost surefire method to render an essay unconvincing to the target audience. * Preaching at readers, or worse: railing at people who will never be their readers, in anything promoted as entertainment. * When conducting research, stopping midway through a work because they're happy with the sentence they've found. * When coopting an unfamiliar subculture, forgetting that the surface aesthetics are meaningless without any understanding of how the underlying beliefs and attitudes came to be expressed that way. I.e., being a poser. * Outside of speculative fiction: demanding that the general audience use common words and terms the way the writer and their social bubble have redefined them. Leave technical jargon to the field's journals. | The worst story I ever saw was a short Werewolf story I wrote myself. In a more professional example, Stephen Kings: The landgoilers. Real proof that no matter how good you write a story, a stupid/bad ending ruins everything. | 1 | 4,636 | 2.0625 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyc5tky | gycfyuk | 1,621,181,652 | 1,621,186,172 | 4 | 33 | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | Without naming names, some of the worst errors I've run across have been: * Mistaking their unsupported opinions for facts, and pretending facts are someone else's opinion. This is an almost surefire method to render an essay unconvincing to the target audience. * Preaching at readers, or worse: railing at people who will never be their readers, in anything promoted as entertainment. * When conducting research, stopping midway through a work because they're happy with the sentence they've found. * When coopting an unfamiliar subculture, forgetting that the surface aesthetics are meaningless without any understanding of how the underlying beliefs and attitudes came to be expressed that way. I.e., being a poser. * Outside of speculative fiction: demanding that the general audience use common words and terms the way the writer and their social bubble have redefined them. Leave technical jargon to the field's journals. | 0 | 4,520 | 8.25 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd9qjk | gyctypg | 1,621,199,564 | 1,621,192,450 | 26 | 21 | A story that stuck with me for the wrong reasons explored mental health and suicide. Without outing the author/book, The protagonist had several “negative” life events all in one go, leaving her struggling mentally. Death of a family member, survivors guilt, parents blamed her, boyfriend left her. The story fell down when everything in her life was miraculously better for her when she got back with her ex. Depression cured, everything was always fine, she just didn’t realise. A bit of an insulting take on depression and a horrible example of emotional dependency as an antidote. | There infinitely more ways for a story to fail than to succeed, so cataloging failure is a mug’s game. Anyway, the worst story is the one that’s never written. The only way to avoid failure is to court it by writing. | 1 | 7,114 | 1.238095 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyc5kp1 | gyd9qjk | 1,621,181,536 | 1,621,199,564 | 16 | 26 | The worst story I ever saw was a short Werewolf story I wrote myself. In a more professional example, Stephen Kings: The landgoilers. Real proof that no matter how good you write a story, a stupid/bad ending ruins everything. | A story that stuck with me for the wrong reasons explored mental health and suicide. Without outing the author/book, The protagonist had several “negative” life events all in one go, leaving her struggling mentally. Death of a family member, survivors guilt, parents blamed her, boyfriend left her. The story fell down when everything in her life was miraculously better for her when she got back with her ex. Depression cured, everything was always fine, she just didn’t realise. A bit of an insulting take on depression and a horrible example of emotional dependency as an antidote. | 0 | 18,028 | 1.625 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gycj2yk | gyd9qjk | 1,621,187,555 | 1,621,199,564 | 14 | 26 | *My Immortal.* How to avoid repeating it's errors? Write something - *anything*. It will never be anywhere near as bad. | A story that stuck with me for the wrong reasons explored mental health and suicide. Without outing the author/book, The protagonist had several “negative” life events all in one go, leaving her struggling mentally. Death of a family member, survivors guilt, parents blamed her, boyfriend left her. The story fell down when everything in her life was miraculously better for her when she got back with her ex. Depression cured, everything was always fine, she just didn’t realise. A bit of an insulting take on depression and a horrible example of emotional dependency as an antidote. | 0 | 12,009 | 1.857143 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd9qjk | gycknlu | 1,621,199,564 | 1,621,188,265 | 26 | 10 | A story that stuck with me for the wrong reasons explored mental health and suicide. Without outing the author/book, The protagonist had several “negative” life events all in one go, leaving her struggling mentally. Death of a family member, survivors guilt, parents blamed her, boyfriend left her. The story fell down when everything in her life was miraculously better for her when she got back with her ex. Depression cured, everything was always fine, she just didn’t realise. A bit of an insulting take on depression and a horrible example of emotional dependency as an antidote. | "please kill m" It's a Gnomeo/reader vore fanfic. I just read it because that's where the meme where God comments "I regret creating you" and the author replies "then get rid of me, pussy." Fantastic read, 10/10 Jokes aside it's pretty funny and intentionally bad. I guess writers should avoid gnome vore and piss drinking lmao | 1 | 11,299 | 2.6 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd5ww5 | gyd9qjk | 1,621,197,851 | 1,621,199,564 | 10 | 26 | I enjoyed *Fight Club* by Chuck Palhaniuk, so when I saw another one of his books, *Pygmy* at a goodwill I picked it up. I couldn’t get more than 20 pages through it. It was from the perspective of a 12 year old foreign spy, so he decided to write the entire book in broken English, making it just obnoxious to read. Then in the first however many pages I got through, there’s a graphic scene of this 12 year old boy raping another boy in a public bathroom. Lessons to be learned: don’t pretend you don’t know how to write, and understand when shock begins to lose its value. | A story that stuck with me for the wrong reasons explored mental health and suicide. Without outing the author/book, The protagonist had several “negative” life events all in one go, leaving her struggling mentally. Death of a family member, survivors guilt, parents blamed her, boyfriend left her. The story fell down when everything in her life was miraculously better for her when she got back with her ex. Depression cured, everything was always fine, she just didn’t realise. A bit of an insulting take on depression and a horrible example of emotional dependency as an antidote. | 0 | 1,713 | 2.6 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd9qjk | gycn4u7 | 1,621,199,564 | 1,621,189,357 | 26 | 8 | A story that stuck with me for the wrong reasons explored mental health and suicide. Without outing the author/book, The protagonist had several “negative” life events all in one go, leaving her struggling mentally. Death of a family member, survivors guilt, parents blamed her, boyfriend left her. The story fell down when everything in her life was miraculously better for her when she got back with her ex. Depression cured, everything was always fine, she just didn’t realise. A bit of an insulting take on depression and a horrible example of emotional dependency as an antidote. | Digital Fortress by Dan Brown. I hated this book I read about 3/4 the way through out of respect for his da Vinci code stuff but I couldn’t read anymore as an IT person everything in that book was completely inappropriate. What I would do is make sure that you can absolutely know what you’re talking about before you write about a subject especially something as complicated as cyber security in a global scale. To me that was the biggest mistake. | 1 | 10,207 | 3.25 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd9qjk | gyc5tky | 1,621,199,564 | 1,621,181,652 | 26 | 4 | A story that stuck with me for the wrong reasons explored mental health and suicide. Without outing the author/book, The protagonist had several “negative” life events all in one go, leaving her struggling mentally. Death of a family member, survivors guilt, parents blamed her, boyfriend left her. The story fell down when everything in her life was miraculously better for her when she got back with her ex. Depression cured, everything was always fine, she just didn’t realise. A bit of an insulting take on depression and a horrible example of emotional dependency as an antidote. | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | 1 | 17,912 | 6.5 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyc5kp1 | gyctypg | 1,621,181,536 | 1,621,192,450 | 16 | 21 | The worst story I ever saw was a short Werewolf story I wrote myself. In a more professional example, Stephen Kings: The landgoilers. Real proof that no matter how good you write a story, a stupid/bad ending ruins everything. | There infinitely more ways for a story to fail than to succeed, so cataloging failure is a mug’s game. Anyway, the worst story is the one that’s never written. The only way to avoid failure is to court it by writing. | 0 | 10,914 | 1.3125 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyctypg | gycj2yk | 1,621,192,450 | 1,621,187,555 | 21 | 14 | There infinitely more ways for a story to fail than to succeed, so cataloging failure is a mug’s game. Anyway, the worst story is the one that’s never written. The only way to avoid failure is to court it by writing. | *My Immortal.* How to avoid repeating it's errors? Write something - *anything*. It will never be anywhere near as bad. | 1 | 4,895 | 1.5 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyctypg | gycknlu | 1,621,192,450 | 1,621,188,265 | 21 | 10 | There infinitely more ways for a story to fail than to succeed, so cataloging failure is a mug’s game. Anyway, the worst story is the one that’s never written. The only way to avoid failure is to court it by writing. | "please kill m" It's a Gnomeo/reader vore fanfic. I just read it because that's where the meme where God comments "I regret creating you" and the author replies "then get rid of me, pussy." Fantastic read, 10/10 Jokes aside it's pretty funny and intentionally bad. I guess writers should avoid gnome vore and piss drinking lmao | 1 | 4,185 | 2.1 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyctypg | gycn4u7 | 1,621,192,450 | 1,621,189,357 | 21 | 8 | There infinitely more ways for a story to fail than to succeed, so cataloging failure is a mug’s game. Anyway, the worst story is the one that’s never written. The only way to avoid failure is to court it by writing. | Digital Fortress by Dan Brown. I hated this book I read about 3/4 the way through out of respect for his da Vinci code stuff but I couldn’t read anymore as an IT person everything in that book was completely inappropriate. What I would do is make sure that you can absolutely know what you’re talking about before you write about a subject especially something as complicated as cyber security in a global scale. To me that was the biggest mistake. | 1 | 3,093 | 2.625 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyctypg | gyc5tky | 1,621,192,450 | 1,621,181,652 | 21 | 4 | There infinitely more ways for a story to fail than to succeed, so cataloging failure is a mug’s game. Anyway, the worst story is the one that’s never written. The only way to avoid failure is to court it by writing. | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | 1 | 10,798 | 5.25 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyed3xp | gyc5kp1 | 1,621,219,093 | 1,621,181,536 | 17 | 16 | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | The worst story I ever saw was a short Werewolf story I wrote myself. In a more professional example, Stephen Kings: The landgoilers. Real proof that no matter how good you write a story, a stupid/bad ending ruins everything. | 1 | 37,557 | 1.0625 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gycj2yk | gyed3xp | 1,621,187,555 | 1,621,219,093 | 14 | 17 | *My Immortal.* How to avoid repeating it's errors? Write something - *anything*. It will never be anywhere near as bad. | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 31,538 | 1.214286 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gycknlu | gyed3xp | 1,621,188,265 | 1,621,219,093 | 10 | 17 | "please kill m" It's a Gnomeo/reader vore fanfic. I just read it because that's where the meme where God comments "I regret creating you" and the author replies "then get rid of me, pussy." Fantastic read, 10/10 Jokes aside it's pretty funny and intentionally bad. I guess writers should avoid gnome vore and piss drinking lmao | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 30,828 | 1.7 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydmggw | gyed3xp | 1,621,205,587 | 1,621,219,093 | 11 | 17 | The worst most successful book I've ever read was The Da Vinci Code. From the very first page it was poorly written and poorly edited and the ideas aren't particularly new or surprising. I couldn't figure out why it was a best seller with so many people raving about it so I forced myself to read it to the end and I still don't understand it. The main character is a symbologist who has spent his whole career studying symbols. There's a major plot point towards the end where he suddenly realises that a mysterious symbol is formed from two other symbols merged together. How could a symbol expert not spot that straight away? | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 13,506 | 1.545455 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd5ww5 | gyed3xp | 1,621,197,851 | 1,621,219,093 | 10 | 17 | I enjoyed *Fight Club* by Chuck Palhaniuk, so when I saw another one of his books, *Pygmy* at a goodwill I picked it up. I couldn’t get more than 20 pages through it. It was from the perspective of a 12 year old foreign spy, so he decided to write the entire book in broken English, making it just obnoxious to read. Then in the first however many pages I got through, there’s a graphic scene of this 12 year old boy raping another boy in a public bathroom. Lessons to be learned: don’t pretend you don’t know how to write, and understand when shock begins to lose its value. | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 21,242 | 1.7 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyed3xp | gydpgdt | 1,621,219,093 | 1,621,207,098 | 17 | 8 | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | Prior to the Internet Age, there were underground readings held of The Eye of Argon. It's the only truly bad story I've ever seen that's non-fanfic, though it still suffers from a lot of the same issues: self-inserts, overwrought prose, wounds that disappear at will, etc. It's kind of so bad it's good, though. Really the worst non-fanfiction stories are the boring ones, I'd say - the ones you can't even enjoy ironically. They just sit there, being boring. | 1 | 11,995 | 2.125 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gycn4u7 | gyed3xp | 1,621,189,357 | 1,621,219,093 | 8 | 17 | Digital Fortress by Dan Brown. I hated this book I read about 3/4 the way through out of respect for his da Vinci code stuff but I couldn’t read anymore as an IT person everything in that book was completely inappropriate. What I would do is make sure that you can absolutely know what you’re talking about before you write about a subject especially something as complicated as cyber security in a global scale. To me that was the biggest mistake. | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 29,736 | 2.125 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydas8h | gyed3xp | 1,621,200,040 | 1,621,219,093 | 7 | 17 | Black Leopard, Red Wolf by Marlon James. I didn’t finish the book, and I’ll preemptively begin by saying “I don’t give a flying fuck how good the book gets, if it starts like raw ass.” And boy does the book start like raw ass. The story begins by some jackass in a tribunal explaining why he fucked up his most recent mission, but instead of just beginning that take, he starts with three or four anecdotes building up his character. But the character is so unlikeable, and his stories so outlandish, that they seem unbelievable, and to top it off, he establishes himself as an unreliable narrator. So thirty pages in, I’ve read three irrelevant anecdotes of a guy I don’t like, and there’s no way to tell if he’s even telling the truth. I stopped reading at that point. | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 19,053 | 2.428571 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydz143 | gyed3xp | 1,621,211,992 | 1,621,219,093 | 5 | 17 | Whenever a character says “I don’t have time to explain” when they very clearly do. It’s a thing that gets under my skin every time. There is no reason to keep the person you’re helping in the dark like that. How to fix: just tell the person the reason | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 7,101 | 3.4 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydumiq | gyed3xp | 1,621,209,785 | 1,621,219,093 | 4 | 17 | The House of Night series is by far one of the worst series I have ever attempted to read (got through about five books before I finally gave up). Someone can avoid making the same mistakes as the authors by not creating obnoxiously Mary Sue protagonists, not referencing super trendy pop stars that may not stand the test of time like Zac Efron, and knowing when to END a series (just looked it up for the first time in years. TWENTY BOOKS?? Come ON). | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 9,308 | 4.25 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyc5tky | gyed3xp | 1,621,181,652 | 1,621,219,093 | 4 | 17 | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 37,441 | 4.25 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyed3xp | gydeaij | 1,621,219,093 | 1,621,201,663 | 17 | 6 | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | I don't remember the name of it. It was one of the required readings for a literature class. It had more flashbacks than a bottle episode. More time jumps than the back to the future franchise. They were random and sporadic. Often-times in the middle of a paragraph. "He worked at the warehouse. He'd worked there since 1982. In 1987, he was promoted to manager. The warehouse was built in 1850. In 1892, there was a fire. It wasn't as bad as the fire from 1884. The warehouse stocked paper during that fire. In 1885, when it was rebuilt, it stocked corn, which is what burned the second time. Initially, it stored textiles to be taken by wagon down the street. In 1920, it transitioned from corn to all sorts of canned goods. The cannery was built in 1915, just down the street..." This isn't an exact excerpt, just an example. And I'm not even doing it justice. It jumped all over the place, and there wasn't even a coherent story or main character. It was just a bunch of random facts in random chronological order. | 1 | 17,430 | 2.833333 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydo9mf | gyed3xp | 1,621,206,496 | 1,621,219,093 | 5 | 17 | Andy Weir's "The Egg" is the worst "well known" and "real" short story I've ever seen. Sure, we've all seen crappy fanfic that's worse, but "The Egg" sucks, yet somehow got critical acclaim. This short story is available online for free: go read it! It sucks. Basically, the entire story is dedicated to explaining an idea that your 24 year old stoner cousin Greg came up with at 2 AM while hitting a fat fucking blunt; beyond this, the story is devoid of substance. What meaningful choices does the second person protagonist make in The Egg? What meaningful choices does the god character make? Nothing. The entire story consists of god (its complicated, but he basically is god) expositing to the second person protagonist while speaking in a notably un-godly tone. That's it. That's the whole story. God's actions are also very confusing: why exposit to the protagonist at all? Sure, hes unknowable and the way he sees the world is mysterious, but that's awfully convenient for Andy, isn't it? He doesn't have to explain shit about this god character. If you want to go "BRUUHHHH WHAT IF THE UNIVERSE WAS AN EGG AND WE WERE ALL..." then just do that instead of wasting an entire story on it, Andy! Stephen King wrote an afterlife-based short story (i do not rememeber what it was called) where the protagonist had to choose between moving on to the afterlife or reincarnating in their old life to try and make it better; this story worked because 1) the two major characters involved are actually interesting people, unlike the phenomenally bland second person protagonist and the nonsensical god character, and 2) the protagonist makes an actual choice in it. In conclusion, short stories should 1) have interesting characters, which Andy did not have, and 2) have characters who make choices, which Andy did not have. The Egg also sucked for a few other minor reasons but I'll arbitrarily stop here. anyway this was my incoherent "Andy Weir's 'The Egg' sucks" rant~~, SMASH that like button and ring that bell for more~~ | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 12,597 | 3.4 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyed3xp | gye6dys | 1,621,219,093 | 1,621,215,756 | 17 | 3 | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | I nominate *World Without End* by Ken Follett, for a combination of being one part boring, one part creepy as fuck, and three parts completely, completely annoying. Let’s start from the top: 1: WWE is an ensemble story, as it’s told mostly from the perspective of 4 characters who meet as children and grow up in the same smallish town that has a massive church at the center. Merthin, a young builder/architect who has to balance his budding relationship with his career, and whom aspires to build the tallest spire in the world, his brother Ralph, an oafish but handsome man who wants to become a knight, and who progressively becomes corrupted with power as he keeps rising in rank, Caris, a girl who hates the church as much as she loves Merthin, and Gwenda, a former child thief who wants to bone a farmer. You’ll notice that the latter two don’t really have much, and that’s the issue there. For an ensemble, only Merthin and Ralph (and Caris way, way later) have any real motivation or emotional stake in the story. Caris mostly gets pushed around by societal forces she can’t control, and Gwenda only really exists to get raped repeatedly and eventually kill Ralph within the last 5 pages of a nearly 1200 page book. A large cast can be a good thing, and you can make that work, but if you’re set on having a pool of main characters rather than one or two, actually develop them. 2: Speaking on the Gwenda thing, a lot of the book is horny in a way that’s just flat out disgusting. I’m the farthest thing from prudish when it comes to sexual content, but so much of the story and much of the dialogue between the characters (is it surprising to know most sex discussion happens between the two female characters referring to the males?) about sex is gross. And there’s way, WAY too much rape. I don’t usually like rape as motivator as a trope. I think it was overdone in the 80s and it’s even harder to pull off now. Rape in general is often completely unnecessary in most stories. But if you really, TRULY have to include a rape in your story, take great care you don’t accidentally write it as erotic. One of the earliest rapes of the book is Gwenda being assaulted by a bandit almost twice her age, and too much time is spent discussing how pleasurable it is despite it being against her will. This happens a LOT, and even Gwenda herself rapes a farmer as he’s grieving and half asleep. 3: A general issue: the story jumps all over the damn place and basically ends up having a lackluster narrative because of it. Running a story with a lot of subplots is not easy. And often a major issue is simply poor structuring of the plot points. Why is there a whole arc about Merthin getting accused of impregnating his rapist that literally adds nothing to the story? Why is there two different rape scenes of Ralph inspecting women for various purposes that barely adds anything? Why does the main conflict (Caris is accused of witchcraft and can only survive by becoming a nun, meaning she can never leave the church) start almost halfway into the book? Pacing is a big fucking deal, and you need to really keep it in mind when you’re working on your pieces | 1 | 3,337 | 5.666667 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gye1hbk | gyed3xp | 1,621,213,256 | 1,621,219,093 | 2 | 17 | Probably not the worst, but the most infuriating to me. A Dance of Blades. It’s the second book in a series and the farthest I went with it. The part I hated the most was the sheer arrogance in the writers note in the back. On its own, it was probably a 2 star book, confusing, very little in the way of stakes because the magic system is entirely based on rule of cool and seems to have no adverse effects, it name-drops elves and orcs but they have absolutely no effect. The note opens with “I think I’m getting the hang of this.” Just that arrogance compelled me to make a goodreads and tear into it as a review. | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 5,837 | 8.5 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gye71ti | gyed3xp | 1,621,216,094 | 1,621,219,093 | 2 | 17 | I've read slush piles so I've seen some bad stuff. Here's how you avoid fucking up: Answer these questions. 1) Who is the audience for this book (sci-fi fans who loved Wool, teenagers who loved Twilight etc)? 2) Can you name three books/series in your chosen genre that are appropriate comparisons? (Hunger Games, Wintersmith etc) 3) Does yours radically diverge from those examples? If you cannot name your audience, cannot name comparative works, or have a book that radically diverges then you fucked up and need to fix it. It's like someone wants a 24-page picture book for six-year-olds and you write a graphic murder scene with drug use. You fucked up. Unfortunately, people can't tell when they've fucked up in subtler ways in other genres (and I'd argue most of the time it's not so subtle anyway). | This one is kind of a joke response. It was in high school and it this author wanted to write a story about a woman falling in love with a homeless man. In the story, the woman brings the man home to live with her and offers him a glass of milk, the man doesn't know what milk is...and I was like "why doesn't he know what milk is?" and she responded "because he is just SO POOR." I couldn't help but laugh and I still feel bad because it hurt her feelings a lot. But come on, he hasn't even HEARD of milk??? The character wasn't homeless since birth, he wasn't completely illiterate, he didn't live under a rock! He had just been living on the streets for a few years. I will commend her efforts to show and not tell but oh man, she missed the mark. I don't think we always have to "write what we know" but you should definitely consult someone who has knowledge on the topic you're writing about. Or else you will write a character who is SO POOR he's NEVER HEARD OF MILK. | 0 | 2,999 | 8.5 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyc5tky | gycj2yk | 1,621,181,652 | 1,621,187,555 | 4 | 14 | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | *My Immortal.* How to avoid repeating it's errors? Write something - *anything*. It will never be anywhere near as bad. | 0 | 5,903 | 3.5 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydmggw | gycknlu | 1,621,205,587 | 1,621,188,265 | 11 | 10 | The worst most successful book I've ever read was The Da Vinci Code. From the very first page it was poorly written and poorly edited and the ideas aren't particularly new or surprising. I couldn't figure out why it was a best seller with so many people raving about it so I forced myself to read it to the end and I still don't understand it. The main character is a symbologist who has spent his whole career studying symbols. There's a major plot point towards the end where he suddenly realises that a mysterious symbol is formed from two other symbols merged together. How could a symbol expert not spot that straight away? | "please kill m" It's a Gnomeo/reader vore fanfic. I just read it because that's where the meme where God comments "I regret creating you" and the author replies "then get rid of me, pussy." Fantastic read, 10/10 Jokes aside it's pretty funny and intentionally bad. I guess writers should avoid gnome vore and piss drinking lmao | 1 | 17,322 | 1.1 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gycknlu | gyc5tky | 1,621,188,265 | 1,621,181,652 | 10 | 4 | "please kill m" It's a Gnomeo/reader vore fanfic. I just read it because that's where the meme where God comments "I regret creating you" and the author replies "then get rid of me, pussy." Fantastic read, 10/10 Jokes aside it's pretty funny and intentionally bad. I guess writers should avoid gnome vore and piss drinking lmao | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | 1 | 6,613 | 2.5 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd5ww5 | gydmggw | 1,621,197,851 | 1,621,205,587 | 10 | 11 | I enjoyed *Fight Club* by Chuck Palhaniuk, so when I saw another one of his books, *Pygmy* at a goodwill I picked it up. I couldn’t get more than 20 pages through it. It was from the perspective of a 12 year old foreign spy, so he decided to write the entire book in broken English, making it just obnoxious to read. Then in the first however many pages I got through, there’s a graphic scene of this 12 year old boy raping another boy in a public bathroom. Lessons to be learned: don’t pretend you don’t know how to write, and understand when shock begins to lose its value. | The worst most successful book I've ever read was The Da Vinci Code. From the very first page it was poorly written and poorly edited and the ideas aren't particularly new or surprising. I couldn't figure out why it was a best seller with so many people raving about it so I forced myself to read it to the end and I still don't understand it. The main character is a symbologist who has spent his whole career studying symbols. There's a major plot point towards the end where he suddenly realises that a mysterious symbol is formed from two other symbols merged together. How could a symbol expert not spot that straight away? | 0 | 7,736 | 1.1 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gycn4u7 | gydmggw | 1,621,189,357 | 1,621,205,587 | 8 | 11 | Digital Fortress by Dan Brown. I hated this book I read about 3/4 the way through out of respect for his da Vinci code stuff but I couldn’t read anymore as an IT person everything in that book was completely inappropriate. What I would do is make sure that you can absolutely know what you’re talking about before you write about a subject especially something as complicated as cyber security in a global scale. To me that was the biggest mistake. | The worst most successful book I've ever read was The Da Vinci Code. From the very first page it was poorly written and poorly edited and the ideas aren't particularly new or surprising. I couldn't figure out why it was a best seller with so many people raving about it so I forced myself to read it to the end and I still don't understand it. The main character is a symbologist who has spent his whole career studying symbols. There's a major plot point towards the end where he suddenly realises that a mysterious symbol is formed from two other symbols merged together. How could a symbol expert not spot that straight away? | 0 | 16,230 | 1.375 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydas8h | gydmggw | 1,621,200,040 | 1,621,205,587 | 7 | 11 | Black Leopard, Red Wolf by Marlon James. I didn’t finish the book, and I’ll preemptively begin by saying “I don’t give a flying fuck how good the book gets, if it starts like raw ass.” And boy does the book start like raw ass. The story begins by some jackass in a tribunal explaining why he fucked up his most recent mission, but instead of just beginning that take, he starts with three or four anecdotes building up his character. But the character is so unlikeable, and his stories so outlandish, that they seem unbelievable, and to top it off, he establishes himself as an unreliable narrator. So thirty pages in, I’ve read three irrelevant anecdotes of a guy I don’t like, and there’s no way to tell if he’s even telling the truth. I stopped reading at that point. | The worst most successful book I've ever read was The Da Vinci Code. From the very first page it was poorly written and poorly edited and the ideas aren't particularly new or surprising. I couldn't figure out why it was a best seller with so many people raving about it so I forced myself to read it to the end and I still don't understand it. The main character is a symbologist who has spent his whole career studying symbols. There's a major plot point towards the end where he suddenly realises that a mysterious symbol is formed from two other symbols merged together. How could a symbol expert not spot that straight away? | 0 | 5,547 | 1.571429 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydmggw | gyc5tky | 1,621,205,587 | 1,621,181,652 | 11 | 4 | The worst most successful book I've ever read was The Da Vinci Code. From the very first page it was poorly written and poorly edited and the ideas aren't particularly new or surprising. I couldn't figure out why it was a best seller with so many people raving about it so I forced myself to read it to the end and I still don't understand it. The main character is a symbologist who has spent his whole career studying symbols. There's a major plot point towards the end where he suddenly realises that a mysterious symbol is formed from two other symbols merged together. How could a symbol expert not spot that straight away? | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | 1 | 23,935 | 2.75 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydeaij | gydmggw | 1,621,201,663 | 1,621,205,587 | 6 | 11 | I don't remember the name of it. It was one of the required readings for a literature class. It had more flashbacks than a bottle episode. More time jumps than the back to the future franchise. They were random and sporadic. Often-times in the middle of a paragraph. "He worked at the warehouse. He'd worked there since 1982. In 1987, he was promoted to manager. The warehouse was built in 1850. In 1892, there was a fire. It wasn't as bad as the fire from 1884. The warehouse stocked paper during that fire. In 1885, when it was rebuilt, it stocked corn, which is what burned the second time. Initially, it stored textiles to be taken by wagon down the street. In 1920, it transitioned from corn to all sorts of canned goods. The cannery was built in 1915, just down the street..." This isn't an exact excerpt, just an example. And I'm not even doing it justice. It jumped all over the place, and there wasn't even a coherent story or main character. It was just a bunch of random facts in random chronological order. | The worst most successful book I've ever read was The Da Vinci Code. From the very first page it was poorly written and poorly edited and the ideas aren't particularly new or surprising. I couldn't figure out why it was a best seller with so many people raving about it so I forced myself to read it to the end and I still don't understand it. The main character is a symbologist who has spent his whole career studying symbols. There's a major plot point towards the end where he suddenly realises that a mysterious symbol is formed from two other symbols merged together. How could a symbol expert not spot that straight away? | 0 | 3,924 | 1.833333 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd5ww5 | gycn4u7 | 1,621,197,851 | 1,621,189,357 | 10 | 8 | I enjoyed *Fight Club* by Chuck Palhaniuk, so when I saw another one of his books, *Pygmy* at a goodwill I picked it up. I couldn’t get more than 20 pages through it. It was from the perspective of a 12 year old foreign spy, so he decided to write the entire book in broken English, making it just obnoxious to read. Then in the first however many pages I got through, there’s a graphic scene of this 12 year old boy raping another boy in a public bathroom. Lessons to be learned: don’t pretend you don’t know how to write, and understand when shock begins to lose its value. | Digital Fortress by Dan Brown. I hated this book I read about 3/4 the way through out of respect for his da Vinci code stuff but I couldn’t read anymore as an IT person everything in that book was completely inappropriate. What I would do is make sure that you can absolutely know what you’re talking about before you write about a subject especially something as complicated as cyber security in a global scale. To me that was the biggest mistake. | 1 | 8,494 | 1.25 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyd5ww5 | gyc5tky | 1,621,197,851 | 1,621,181,652 | 10 | 4 | I enjoyed *Fight Club* by Chuck Palhaniuk, so when I saw another one of his books, *Pygmy* at a goodwill I picked it up. I couldn’t get more than 20 pages through it. It was from the perspective of a 12 year old foreign spy, so he decided to write the entire book in broken English, making it just obnoxious to read. Then in the first however many pages I got through, there’s a graphic scene of this 12 year old boy raping another boy in a public bathroom. Lessons to be learned: don’t pretend you don’t know how to write, and understand when shock begins to lose its value. | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | 1 | 16,199 | 2.5 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydas8h | gydpgdt | 1,621,200,040 | 1,621,207,098 | 7 | 8 | Black Leopard, Red Wolf by Marlon James. I didn’t finish the book, and I’ll preemptively begin by saying “I don’t give a flying fuck how good the book gets, if it starts like raw ass.” And boy does the book start like raw ass. The story begins by some jackass in a tribunal explaining why he fucked up his most recent mission, but instead of just beginning that take, he starts with three or four anecdotes building up his character. But the character is so unlikeable, and his stories so outlandish, that they seem unbelievable, and to top it off, he establishes himself as an unreliable narrator. So thirty pages in, I’ve read three irrelevant anecdotes of a guy I don’t like, and there’s no way to tell if he’s even telling the truth. I stopped reading at that point. | Prior to the Internet Age, there were underground readings held of The Eye of Argon. It's the only truly bad story I've ever seen that's non-fanfic, though it still suffers from a lot of the same issues: self-inserts, overwrought prose, wounds that disappear at will, etc. It's kind of so bad it's good, though. Really the worst non-fanfiction stories are the boring ones, I'd say - the ones you can't even enjoy ironically. They just sit there, being boring. | 0 | 7,058 | 1.142857 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gyc5tky | gydpgdt | 1,621,181,652 | 1,621,207,098 | 4 | 8 | i don't really think we need to form a dunk circle on this topic, do you? | Prior to the Internet Age, there were underground readings held of The Eye of Argon. It's the only truly bad story I've ever seen that's non-fanfic, though it still suffers from a lot of the same issues: self-inserts, overwrought prose, wounds that disappear at will, etc. It's kind of so bad it's good, though. Really the worst non-fanfiction stories are the boring ones, I'd say - the ones you can't even enjoy ironically. They just sit there, being boring. | 0 | 25,446 | 2 | ||
ndr73y | writing_train | 0.9 | What is the worst story you've ever seen, and how can new writers avoid repeating its errors? This title could apply to stories in any medium, whether they be books, comics, film, puppet shows, plays, or videogames. | gydpgdt | gydeaij | 1,621,207,098 | 1,621,201,663 | 8 | 6 | Prior to the Internet Age, there were underground readings held of The Eye of Argon. It's the only truly bad story I've ever seen that's non-fanfic, though it still suffers from a lot of the same issues: self-inserts, overwrought prose, wounds that disappear at will, etc. It's kind of so bad it's good, though. Really the worst non-fanfiction stories are the boring ones, I'd say - the ones you can't even enjoy ironically. They just sit there, being boring. | I don't remember the name of it. It was one of the required readings for a literature class. It had more flashbacks than a bottle episode. More time jumps than the back to the future franchise. They were random and sporadic. Often-times in the middle of a paragraph. "He worked at the warehouse. He'd worked there since 1982. In 1987, he was promoted to manager. The warehouse was built in 1850. In 1892, there was a fire. It wasn't as bad as the fire from 1884. The warehouse stocked paper during that fire. In 1885, when it was rebuilt, it stocked corn, which is what burned the second time. Initially, it stored textiles to be taken by wagon down the street. In 1920, it transitioned from corn to all sorts of canned goods. The cannery was built in 1915, just down the street..." This isn't an exact excerpt, just an example. And I'm not even doing it justice. It jumped all over the place, and there wasn't even a coherent story or main character. It was just a bunch of random facts in random chronological order. | 1 | 5,435 | 1.333333 |
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