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o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2x7ysm | h2x9dbk | 1,624,564,557 | 1,624,565,197 | 2 | 3 | I definitely prefer times skips like that than when there are too much mundane things happening, unless the chapter/book is built around those mundane things (Being a fan of the ''Slice of Life'' Manga/Novel, I really don't mind that happening when it's appropriate. I don't expect that to happen in more action oriented series) | I met Steven James at the Writers Digest Conference a couple of years ago. He talked about time passage and said you can get away with a lot of time passing (and skipping as you described) at the beginning and middle of the story but by the third act there should be a lot less time passage. | 0 | 640 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xe8am | h2x04gk | 1,624,567,449 | 1,624,561,011 | 3 | 2 | it really depends most of the time, if nothing interesting is happening then skip it and its okay im currently reading the Poppy War and im actually bothered a bit by the pacing and i feel that the time skips in the middle were too big | The best stories seem my skip all this stuff unless it’s relevant. If you have your driving principle, everything should be building toward that or cut it if you can | 1 | 6,438 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xe8am | h2x0no7 | 1,624,567,449 | 1,624,561,246 | 3 | 2 | it really depends most of the time, if nothing interesting is happening then skip it and its okay im currently reading the Poppy War and im actually bothered a bit by the pacing and i feel that the time skips in the middle were too big | In story it annoys me, yes, unless it’s the time between classes in Harry Potter and there’s a reason for it, for example. Generally time skips should be reserved for the end of chapters where it makes sense. | 1 | 6,203 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2x5job | h2xe8am | 1,624,563,461 | 1,624,567,449 | 2 | 3 | Only tell the most interesting parts of the story. | it really depends most of the time, if nothing interesting is happening then skip it and its okay im currently reading the Poppy War and im actually bothered a bit by the pacing and i feel that the time skips in the middle were too big | 0 | 3,988 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xe8am | h2x7ysm | 1,624,567,449 | 1,624,564,557 | 3 | 2 | it really depends most of the time, if nothing interesting is happening then skip it and its okay im currently reading the Poppy War and im actually bothered a bit by the pacing and i feel that the time skips in the middle were too big | I definitely prefer times skips like that than when there are too much mundane things happening, unless the chapter/book is built around those mundane things (Being a fan of the ''Slice of Life'' Manga/Novel, I really don't mind that happening when it's appropriate. I don't expect that to happen in more action oriented series) | 1 | 2,892 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2x04gk | h2xj68d | 1,624,561,011 | 1,624,570,024 | 2 | 3 | The best stories seem my skip all this stuff unless it’s relevant. If you have your driving principle, everything should be building toward that or cut it if you can | Maybe you could do a small summary of what happens during that time, as in "In the following days, they do.....until...." or something like that. | 0 | 9,013 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xj68d | h2x0no7 | 1,624,570,024 | 1,624,561,246 | 3 | 2 | Maybe you could do a small summary of what happens during that time, as in "In the following days, they do.....until...." or something like that. | In story it annoys me, yes, unless it’s the time between classes in Harry Potter and there’s a reason for it, for example. Generally time skips should be reserved for the end of chapters where it makes sense. | 1 | 8,778 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2x5job | h2xj68d | 1,624,563,461 | 1,624,570,024 | 2 | 3 | Only tell the most interesting parts of the story. | Maybe you could do a small summary of what happens during that time, as in "In the following days, they do.....until...." or something like that. | 0 | 6,563 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2x7ysm | h2xj68d | 1,624,564,557 | 1,624,570,024 | 2 | 3 | I definitely prefer times skips like that than when there are too much mundane things happening, unless the chapter/book is built around those mundane things (Being a fan of the ''Slice of Life'' Manga/Novel, I really don't mind that happening when it's appropriate. I don't expect that to happen in more action oriented series) | Maybe you could do a small summary of what happens during that time, as in "In the following days, they do.....until...." or something like that. | 0 | 5,467 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xj68d | h2xfq34 | 1,624,570,024 | 1,624,568,207 | 3 | 2 | Maybe you could do a small summary of what happens during that time, as in "In the following days, they do.....until...." or something like that. | As a reader, i would think that it's a bunch of missed opportunities, and if there were scene's i was specifically looking forward to I'd get annoyed, but i might not be your target audience | 1 | 1,817 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xne93 | h2x04gk | 1,624,576,215 | 1,624,561,011 | 3 | 2 | I think honestly, it depends on the type of story your telling. Where is the focus on? The story? The characters? The setting? Might make sense to skip very unnecessary events which hold little to no impact on the rest of the story. I personally don't enjoy when time skips are used to hide future "convenient" plot elements. I believe you should ground yourself somewhere so that those skips don't feel like an endless hat to pull elements from. | The best stories seem my skip all this stuff unless it’s relevant. If you have your driving principle, everything should be building toward that or cut it if you can | 1 | 15,204 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2x0no7 | h2xne93 | 1,624,561,246 | 1,624,576,215 | 2 | 3 | In story it annoys me, yes, unless it’s the time between classes in Harry Potter and there’s a reason for it, for example. Generally time skips should be reserved for the end of chapters where it makes sense. | I think honestly, it depends on the type of story your telling. Where is the focus on? The story? The characters? The setting? Might make sense to skip very unnecessary events which hold little to no impact on the rest of the story. I personally don't enjoy when time skips are used to hide future "convenient" plot elements. I believe you should ground yourself somewhere so that those skips don't feel like an endless hat to pull elements from. | 0 | 14,969 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xne93 | h2x5job | 1,624,576,215 | 1,624,563,461 | 3 | 2 | I think honestly, it depends on the type of story your telling. Where is the focus on? The story? The characters? The setting? Might make sense to skip very unnecessary events which hold little to no impact on the rest of the story. I personally don't enjoy when time skips are used to hide future "convenient" plot elements. I believe you should ground yourself somewhere so that those skips don't feel like an endless hat to pull elements from. | Only tell the most interesting parts of the story. | 1 | 12,754 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xne93 | h2x7ysm | 1,624,576,215 | 1,624,564,557 | 3 | 2 | I think honestly, it depends on the type of story your telling. Where is the focus on? The story? The characters? The setting? Might make sense to skip very unnecessary events which hold little to no impact on the rest of the story. I personally don't enjoy when time skips are used to hide future "convenient" plot elements. I believe you should ground yourself somewhere so that those skips don't feel like an endless hat to pull elements from. | I definitely prefer times skips like that than when there are too much mundane things happening, unless the chapter/book is built around those mundane things (Being a fan of the ''Slice of Life'' Manga/Novel, I really don't mind that happening when it's appropriate. I don't expect that to happen in more action oriented series) | 1 | 11,658 | 1.5 | ||
o76325 | writing_train | 0.94 | Does it annoy you as a reader when there’s a lot of unaccounted for time? In my current story, there’s a lot of “a few days later”, “three weeks later”, “months later”. Just wondering how annoying that might be as a reader. Some of it I do plan to fill in but not much. For example, there’s a pregnancy I don’t plan to account for because it was uneventful. There are a few projects the MC works on also and the fact that the project happened is important but not what happened during the project. Interested in hearing different perspectives on this. | h2xne93 | h2xfq34 | 1,624,576,215 | 1,624,568,207 | 3 | 2 | I think honestly, it depends on the type of story your telling. Where is the focus on? The story? The characters? The setting? Might make sense to skip very unnecessary events which hold little to no impact on the rest of the story. I personally don't enjoy when time skips are used to hide future "convenient" plot elements. I believe you should ground yourself somewhere so that those skips don't feel like an endless hat to pull elements from. | As a reader, i would think that it's a bunch of missed opportunities, and if there were scene's i was specifically looking forward to I'd get annoyed, but i might not be your target audience | 1 | 8,008 | 1.5 | ||
yn1sm1 | writing_train | 0.87 | I Fear I've Lost My Voice As A Writer. Help! Hello everyone. I've been writing since I was a young lad. But over the last year, I've barely written anything. Procrastination mostly. As of now, I'm working on some short stories but I just can't seem to "get in the flow" like I used to. I miss writing like a psychopath, quickly and violently, mashing the keys until I had a five page story that I could comb through and edit. Currently, I write a sentence. Then read through it. Repeat. Repeat. Delete. Change this word. Get rid of that. Wait a second. Suddenly, it's 30 minutes later and I have 6 sentences. I fear I've lost my voice. What are some tricks from fellow writers or creatives that helps you get into the flow? I read a lot, and watch movies for inspiration but at some point I need to put words to paper. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. | iv8rnqj | iv7obuk | 1,667,707,136 | 1,667,689,318 | 3 | 2 | If you overthink and edit every sentence you get tense and that gets you bad flow, at least that's how it goes for me. So when just pushing forward isnt working I use a transcribing app(otter). When speaking it's way more noticable if I stop, and while in that recording session I cant pause to edit so I have to get it out. The result is way worse than if I had written it, the draft usually isnt workable, but the next draft will be, and I'll be better acquainted with the story and less in my head. Handwriting also gets me out of my head but that's because I've kept messy journals for years now and writing even just the first paragraph in my current one feels less serious and removes the pressure. | This happened to me and I didn’t write for 20 years. Your voice will eventually come back. | 1 | 17,818 | 1.5 | ||
yn1sm1 | writing_train | 0.87 | I Fear I've Lost My Voice As A Writer. Help! Hello everyone. I've been writing since I was a young lad. But over the last year, I've barely written anything. Procrastination mostly. As of now, I'm working on some short stories but I just can't seem to "get in the flow" like I used to. I miss writing like a psychopath, quickly and violently, mashing the keys until I had a five page story that I could comb through and edit. Currently, I write a sentence. Then read through it. Repeat. Repeat. Delete. Change this word. Get rid of that. Wait a second. Suddenly, it's 30 minutes later and I have 6 sentences. I fear I've lost my voice. What are some tricks from fellow writers or creatives that helps you get into the flow? I read a lot, and watch movies for inspiration but at some point I need to put words to paper. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. | iv8rnqj | iv7sqav | 1,667,707,136 | 1,667,691,244 | 3 | 2 | If you overthink and edit every sentence you get tense and that gets you bad flow, at least that's how it goes for me. So when just pushing forward isnt working I use a transcribing app(otter). When speaking it's way more noticable if I stop, and while in that recording session I cant pause to edit so I have to get it out. The result is way worse than if I had written it, the draft usually isnt workable, but the next draft will be, and I'll be better acquainted with the story and less in my head. Handwriting also gets me out of my head but that's because I've kept messy journals for years now and writing even just the first paragraph in my current one feels less serious and removes the pressure. | Simple. Don’t do that. Don’t rewrite sentences. Take the shit or leave the pot. I know you’ll write something and it’ll be garbage and you’ll want to die but just push through. You can look at it later *AFTER THE STORY IS FINISHED*! | 1 | 15,892 | 1.5 | ||
yn1sm1 | writing_train | 0.87 | I Fear I've Lost My Voice As A Writer. Help! Hello everyone. I've been writing since I was a young lad. But over the last year, I've barely written anything. Procrastination mostly. As of now, I'm working on some short stories but I just can't seem to "get in the flow" like I used to. I miss writing like a psychopath, quickly and violently, mashing the keys until I had a five page story that I could comb through and edit. Currently, I write a sentence. Then read through it. Repeat. Repeat. Delete. Change this word. Get rid of that. Wait a second. Suddenly, it's 30 minutes later and I have 6 sentences. I fear I've lost my voice. What are some tricks from fellow writers or creatives that helps you get into the flow? I read a lot, and watch movies for inspiration but at some point I need to put words to paper. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. | iv8rnqj | iv7os93 | 1,667,707,136 | 1,667,689,515 | 3 | 1 | If you overthink and edit every sentence you get tense and that gets you bad flow, at least that's how it goes for me. So when just pushing forward isnt working I use a transcribing app(otter). When speaking it's way more noticable if I stop, and while in that recording session I cant pause to edit so I have to get it out. The result is way worse than if I had written it, the draft usually isnt workable, but the next draft will be, and I'll be better acquainted with the story and less in my head. Handwriting also gets me out of my head but that's because I've kept messy journals for years now and writing even just the first paragraph in my current one feels less serious and removes the pressure. | I tend to write straight out as it flows, then go back and edit, then when you’ve done one edit continue writing then edit that…. Then I re-edit the whole thing till I’m happy with it. | 1 | 17,621 | 3 | ||
yn1sm1 | writing_train | 0.87 | I Fear I've Lost My Voice As A Writer. Help! Hello everyone. I've been writing since I was a young lad. But over the last year, I've barely written anything. Procrastination mostly. As of now, I'm working on some short stories but I just can't seem to "get in the flow" like I used to. I miss writing like a psychopath, quickly and violently, mashing the keys until I had a five page story that I could comb through and edit. Currently, I write a sentence. Then read through it. Repeat. Repeat. Delete. Change this word. Get rid of that. Wait a second. Suddenly, it's 30 minutes later and I have 6 sentences. I fear I've lost my voice. What are some tricks from fellow writers or creatives that helps you get into the flow? I read a lot, and watch movies for inspiration but at some point I need to put words to paper. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. | iv7os93 | iv7sqav | 1,667,689,515 | 1,667,691,244 | 1 | 2 | I tend to write straight out as it flows, then go back and edit, then when you’ve done one edit continue writing then edit that…. Then I re-edit the whole thing till I’m happy with it. | Simple. Don’t do that. Don’t rewrite sentences. Take the shit or leave the pot. I know you’ll write something and it’ll be garbage and you’ll want to die but just push through. You can look at it later *AFTER THE STORY IS FINISHED*! | 0 | 1,729 | 2 | ||
yn1sm1 | writing_train | 0.87 | I Fear I've Lost My Voice As A Writer. Help! Hello everyone. I've been writing since I was a young lad. But over the last year, I've barely written anything. Procrastination mostly. As of now, I'm working on some short stories but I just can't seem to "get in the flow" like I used to. I miss writing like a psychopath, quickly and violently, mashing the keys until I had a five page story that I could comb through and edit. Currently, I write a sentence. Then read through it. Repeat. Repeat. Delete. Change this word. Get rid of that. Wait a second. Suddenly, it's 30 minutes later and I have 6 sentences. I fear I've lost my voice. What are some tricks from fellow writers or creatives that helps you get into the flow? I read a lot, and watch movies for inspiration but at some point I need to put words to paper. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. | iv7os93 | iv8wb1u | 1,667,689,515 | 1,667,709,849 | 1 | 2 | I tend to write straight out as it flows, then go back and edit, then when you’ve done one edit continue writing then edit that…. Then I re-edit the whole thing till I’m happy with it. | Have you checked down the back of the couch. | 0 | 20,334 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if74r01 | if7031o | 1,657,196,009 | 1,657,193,206 | 34 | 29 | Your first draft is allowed to be shit. That's why it's a first draft. I've spent way too long trying to make my writing perfect. A bad page is significantly better than an empty one | Write the book you want to read. And anyone who says to start with something small you're not passionate about can go play in traffic. If you don't give a damn about what you're writing it's going to suck and be a pointless waste of time and energy and your lifespan. | 1 | 2,803 | 1.172414 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if74r01 | if6z2w5 | 1,657,196,009 | 1,657,192,555 | 34 | 19 | Your first draft is allowed to be shit. That's why it's a first draft. I've spent way too long trying to make my writing perfect. A bad page is significantly better than an empty one | First you write a sentence. | 1 | 3,454 | 1.789474 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if6tvpc | if74r01 | 1,657,188,797 | 1,657,196,009 | 3 | 34 | read books from all sorts of genres. one regret i have is not reading as much books when i was young so i have a lot to catch up on now that im old | Your first draft is allowed to be shit. That's why it's a first draft. I've spent way too long trying to make my writing perfect. A bad page is significantly better than an empty one | 0 | 7,212 | 11.333333 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7031o | if6z2w5 | 1,657,193,206 | 1,657,192,555 | 29 | 19 | Write the book you want to read. And anyone who says to start with something small you're not passionate about can go play in traffic. If you don't give a damn about what you're writing it's going to suck and be a pointless waste of time and energy and your lifespan. | First you write a sentence. | 1 | 651 | 1.526316 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7031o | if6tvpc | 1,657,193,206 | 1,657,188,797 | 29 | 3 | Write the book you want to read. And anyone who says to start with something small you're not passionate about can go play in traffic. If you don't give a damn about what you're writing it's going to suck and be a pointless waste of time and energy and your lifespan. | read books from all sorts of genres. one regret i have is not reading as much books when i was young so i have a lot to catch up on now that im old | 1 | 4,409 | 9.666667 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if6tvpc | if6z2w5 | 1,657,188,797 | 1,657,192,555 | 3 | 19 | read books from all sorts of genres. one regret i have is not reading as much books when i was young so i have a lot to catch up on now that im old | First you write a sentence. | 0 | 3,758 | 6.333333 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7qrmy | if6tvpc | 1,657,206,180 | 1,657,188,797 | 11 | 3 | TL:Dr at the bottom! Write whatever you want to write, number 1. Number 2, it might not be perfect and that's ok, don't worry about it..you're just starting Number 3, reading books or fanfiction that fit your genre will give you more inspiration if you keep a sharp eye on what you like. Number 4, If you have trouble writing characters, draw from yourself; who's someone you wouldn't want to meet? Who's someone you would? Draw from family members, video game characters, drawing inspiration is fine as long as it isn't a literal copy Number 5, if you aren't sure "if it's ok" to write certain characters; **as long as they are people, it's probably fine.** You'll need to do research on anything you arent familiar with, obviously, but anything can sound like a terrible idea until you write it out. Instead of "I'm a white author writing a black main character, what do", (example), approach it as "I am writing a main character; he happens to be black. He isn't defined by this fact alone but is there anything to keep in mind?" There are no explicit rules for writing, maybe your character resonates with people in a raw way that leaves your novel unforgettable. You can WRITE anything, whether you write it WELL is another story and we can't necessarily help with that. Number 6, if you don't know how good your book reads or if readers will like something; step away from the book. Read it like you picked it up in a bookstore with no further idea on what it's about. This is some book you saw and you gave it a try. Does it hook you in? Do you put it down or not like certain points or characters and can you name why? I typically read the first page of a book, then the first chapter if it's short enough to figure out if I like it enough to borrow it from the library/borrow it. TL:DR >Write whatever story you want >It may not be perfect or it could suck; finish it and then edit it later and THEN see if it's still bad somehow. >Read books or fanfiction with similar genres/tones to what you want to write and try to pick things up with a critical eye; this can take time to learn. >Character inspiration: Yourself, people you know, people you would hate to meet, characters from media; avoid carbon copies or there will be issues. >It's OK to write about most of anything, but the key is writing it well/respectfully. Do research, ask questions, make these characters people. >If you don't know how good the writing is, re-read it like it's a book by some other author. See if you can figure out if anything is off, and *why* it's off. | read books from all sorts of genres. one regret i have is not reading as much books when i was young so i have a lot to catch up on now that im old | 1 | 17,383 | 3.666667 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7qrmy | if7mnkt | 1,657,206,180 | 1,657,204,500 | 11 | 5 | TL:Dr at the bottom! Write whatever you want to write, number 1. Number 2, it might not be perfect and that's ok, don't worry about it..you're just starting Number 3, reading books or fanfiction that fit your genre will give you more inspiration if you keep a sharp eye on what you like. Number 4, If you have trouble writing characters, draw from yourself; who's someone you wouldn't want to meet? Who's someone you would? Draw from family members, video game characters, drawing inspiration is fine as long as it isn't a literal copy Number 5, if you aren't sure "if it's ok" to write certain characters; **as long as they are people, it's probably fine.** You'll need to do research on anything you arent familiar with, obviously, but anything can sound like a terrible idea until you write it out. Instead of "I'm a white author writing a black main character, what do", (example), approach it as "I am writing a main character; he happens to be black. He isn't defined by this fact alone but is there anything to keep in mind?" There are no explicit rules for writing, maybe your character resonates with people in a raw way that leaves your novel unforgettable. You can WRITE anything, whether you write it WELL is another story and we can't necessarily help with that. Number 6, if you don't know how good your book reads or if readers will like something; step away from the book. Read it like you picked it up in a bookstore with no further idea on what it's about. This is some book you saw and you gave it a try. Does it hook you in? Do you put it down or not like certain points or characters and can you name why? I typically read the first page of a book, then the first chapter if it's short enough to figure out if I like it enough to borrow it from the library/borrow it. TL:DR >Write whatever story you want >It may not be perfect or it could suck; finish it and then edit it later and THEN see if it's still bad somehow. >Read books or fanfiction with similar genres/tones to what you want to write and try to pick things up with a critical eye; this can take time to learn. >Character inspiration: Yourself, people you know, people you would hate to meet, characters from media; avoid carbon copies or there will be issues. >It's OK to write about most of anything, but the key is writing it well/respectfully. Do research, ask questions, make these characters people. >If you don't know how good the writing is, re-read it like it's a book by some other author. See if you can figure out if anything is off, and *why* it's off. | Read and write as much as you can. Listen to booktube until you get the hang of the beginner lessons. Read and write as much as you can. (It's worth saying twice.) | 1 | 1,680 | 2.2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7qrmy | if75cuq | 1,657,206,180 | 1,657,196,346 | 11 | 2 | TL:Dr at the bottom! Write whatever you want to write, number 1. Number 2, it might not be perfect and that's ok, don't worry about it..you're just starting Number 3, reading books or fanfiction that fit your genre will give you more inspiration if you keep a sharp eye on what you like. Number 4, If you have trouble writing characters, draw from yourself; who's someone you wouldn't want to meet? Who's someone you would? Draw from family members, video game characters, drawing inspiration is fine as long as it isn't a literal copy Number 5, if you aren't sure "if it's ok" to write certain characters; **as long as they are people, it's probably fine.** You'll need to do research on anything you arent familiar with, obviously, but anything can sound like a terrible idea until you write it out. Instead of "I'm a white author writing a black main character, what do", (example), approach it as "I am writing a main character; he happens to be black. He isn't defined by this fact alone but is there anything to keep in mind?" There are no explicit rules for writing, maybe your character resonates with people in a raw way that leaves your novel unforgettable. You can WRITE anything, whether you write it WELL is another story and we can't necessarily help with that. Number 6, if you don't know how good your book reads or if readers will like something; step away from the book. Read it like you picked it up in a bookstore with no further idea on what it's about. This is some book you saw and you gave it a try. Does it hook you in? Do you put it down or not like certain points or characters and can you name why? I typically read the first page of a book, then the first chapter if it's short enough to figure out if I like it enough to borrow it from the library/borrow it. TL:DR >Write whatever story you want >It may not be perfect or it could suck; finish it and then edit it later and THEN see if it's still bad somehow. >Read books or fanfiction with similar genres/tones to what you want to write and try to pick things up with a critical eye; this can take time to learn. >Character inspiration: Yourself, people you know, people you would hate to meet, characters from media; avoid carbon copies or there will be issues. >It's OK to write about most of anything, but the key is writing it well/respectfully. Do research, ask questions, make these characters people. >If you don't know how good the writing is, re-read it like it's a book by some other author. See if you can figure out if anything is off, and *why* it's off. | Just write | 1 | 9,834 | 5.5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7amc5 | if7qrmy | 1,657,199,069 | 1,657,206,180 | 1 | 11 | Just start | TL:Dr at the bottom! Write whatever you want to write, number 1. Number 2, it might not be perfect and that's ok, don't worry about it..you're just starting Number 3, reading books or fanfiction that fit your genre will give you more inspiration if you keep a sharp eye on what you like. Number 4, If you have trouble writing characters, draw from yourself; who's someone you wouldn't want to meet? Who's someone you would? Draw from family members, video game characters, drawing inspiration is fine as long as it isn't a literal copy Number 5, if you aren't sure "if it's ok" to write certain characters; **as long as they are people, it's probably fine.** You'll need to do research on anything you arent familiar with, obviously, but anything can sound like a terrible idea until you write it out. Instead of "I'm a white author writing a black main character, what do", (example), approach it as "I am writing a main character; he happens to be black. He isn't defined by this fact alone but is there anything to keep in mind?" There are no explicit rules for writing, maybe your character resonates with people in a raw way that leaves your novel unforgettable. You can WRITE anything, whether you write it WELL is another story and we can't necessarily help with that. Number 6, if you don't know how good your book reads or if readers will like something; step away from the book. Read it like you picked it up in a bookstore with no further idea on what it's about. This is some book you saw and you gave it a try. Does it hook you in? Do you put it down or not like certain points or characters and can you name why? I typically read the first page of a book, then the first chapter if it's short enough to figure out if I like it enough to borrow it from the library/borrow it. TL:DR >Write whatever story you want >It may not be perfect or it could suck; finish it and then edit it later and THEN see if it's still bad somehow. >Read books or fanfiction with similar genres/tones to what you want to write and try to pick things up with a critical eye; this can take time to learn. >Character inspiration: Yourself, people you know, people you would hate to meet, characters from media; avoid carbon copies or there will be issues. >It's OK to write about most of anything, but the key is writing it well/respectfully. Do research, ask questions, make these characters people. >If you don't know how good the writing is, re-read it like it's a book by some other author. See if you can figure out if anything is off, and *why* it's off. | 0 | 7,111 | 11 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7kbjf | if7qrmy | 1,657,203,511 | 1,657,206,180 | 1 | 11 | Write about things you are most interested in. It will make life as a professional writer much easier. | TL:Dr at the bottom! Write whatever you want to write, number 1. Number 2, it might not be perfect and that's ok, don't worry about it..you're just starting Number 3, reading books or fanfiction that fit your genre will give you more inspiration if you keep a sharp eye on what you like. Number 4, If you have trouble writing characters, draw from yourself; who's someone you wouldn't want to meet? Who's someone you would? Draw from family members, video game characters, drawing inspiration is fine as long as it isn't a literal copy Number 5, if you aren't sure "if it's ok" to write certain characters; **as long as they are people, it's probably fine.** You'll need to do research on anything you arent familiar with, obviously, but anything can sound like a terrible idea until you write it out. Instead of "I'm a white author writing a black main character, what do", (example), approach it as "I am writing a main character; he happens to be black. He isn't defined by this fact alone but is there anything to keep in mind?" There are no explicit rules for writing, maybe your character resonates with people in a raw way that leaves your novel unforgettable. You can WRITE anything, whether you write it WELL is another story and we can't necessarily help with that. Number 6, if you don't know how good your book reads or if readers will like something; step away from the book. Read it like you picked it up in a bookstore with no further idea on what it's about. This is some book you saw and you gave it a try. Does it hook you in? Do you put it down or not like certain points or characters and can you name why? I typically read the first page of a book, then the first chapter if it's short enough to figure out if I like it enough to borrow it from the library/borrow it. TL:DR >Write whatever story you want >It may not be perfect or it could suck; finish it and then edit it later and THEN see if it's still bad somehow. >Read books or fanfiction with similar genres/tones to what you want to write and try to pick things up with a critical eye; this can take time to learn. >Character inspiration: Yourself, people you know, people you would hate to meet, characters from media; avoid carbon copies or there will be issues. >It's OK to write about most of anything, but the key is writing it well/respectfully. Do research, ask questions, make these characters people. >If you don't know how good the writing is, re-read it like it's a book by some other author. See if you can figure out if anything is off, and *why* it's off. | 0 | 2,669 | 11 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if80jct | if6tvpc | 1,657,210,056 | 1,657,188,797 | 8 | 3 | Even though it's one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see here, I don't think you should fully embrace the idea that your first draft is garbage. It's probably not going to be a stellar piece of work, but it's not meant to be a finished product. A first draft is you telling yourself the story, and including the things you feel need to be there. You're just sketching out the book at this point, and it's okay for it to be a bit messy and distorted, but I feel like too many people harp on the first draft as being terrible. As a book, yeah, it's terrible. But it's not a book, it's your first draft. | read books from all sorts of genres. one regret i have is not reading as much books when i was young so i have a lot to catch up on now that im old | 1 | 21,259 | 2.666667 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if80jct | if7mnkt | 1,657,210,056 | 1,657,204,500 | 8 | 5 | Even though it's one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see here, I don't think you should fully embrace the idea that your first draft is garbage. It's probably not going to be a stellar piece of work, but it's not meant to be a finished product. A first draft is you telling yourself the story, and including the things you feel need to be there. You're just sketching out the book at this point, and it's okay for it to be a bit messy and distorted, but I feel like too many people harp on the first draft as being terrible. As a book, yeah, it's terrible. But it's not a book, it's your first draft. | Read and write as much as you can. Listen to booktube until you get the hang of the beginner lessons. Read and write as much as you can. (It's worth saying twice.) | 1 | 5,556 | 1.6 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if80jct | if75cuq | 1,657,210,056 | 1,657,196,346 | 8 | 2 | Even though it's one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see here, I don't think you should fully embrace the idea that your first draft is garbage. It's probably not going to be a stellar piece of work, but it's not meant to be a finished product. A first draft is you telling yourself the story, and including the things you feel need to be there. You're just sketching out the book at this point, and it's okay for it to be a bit messy and distorted, but I feel like too many people harp on the first draft as being terrible. As a book, yeah, it's terrible. But it's not a book, it's your first draft. | Just write | 1 | 13,710 | 4 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7amc5 | if80jct | 1,657,199,069 | 1,657,210,056 | 1 | 8 | Just start | Even though it's one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see here, I don't think you should fully embrace the idea that your first draft is garbage. It's probably not going to be a stellar piece of work, but it's not meant to be a finished product. A first draft is you telling yourself the story, and including the things you feel need to be there. You're just sketching out the book at this point, and it's okay for it to be a bit messy and distorted, but I feel like too many people harp on the first draft as being terrible. As a book, yeah, it's terrible. But it's not a book, it's your first draft. | 0 | 10,987 | 8 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7kbjf | if80jct | 1,657,203,511 | 1,657,210,056 | 1 | 8 | Write about things you are most interested in. It will make life as a professional writer much easier. | Even though it's one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see here, I don't think you should fully embrace the idea that your first draft is garbage. It's probably not going to be a stellar piece of work, but it's not meant to be a finished product. A first draft is you telling yourself the story, and including the things you feel need to be there. You're just sketching out the book at this point, and it's okay for it to be a bit messy and distorted, but I feel like too many people harp on the first draft as being terrible. As a book, yeah, it's terrible. But it's not a book, it's your first draft. | 0 | 6,545 | 8 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if6tvpc | if7mnkt | 1,657,188,797 | 1,657,204,500 | 3 | 5 | read books from all sorts of genres. one regret i have is not reading as much books when i was young so i have a lot to catch up on now that im old | Read and write as much as you can. Listen to booktube until you get the hang of the beginner lessons. Read and write as much as you can. (It's worth saying twice.) | 0 | 15,703 | 1.666667 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if6tvpc | if84xqm | 1,657,188,797 | 1,657,211,776 | 3 | 5 | read books from all sorts of genres. one regret i have is not reading as much books when i was young so i have a lot to catch up on now that im old | Joseph Campbell famously said "Follow your bliss." He didn't mean to aim for the stars or set lofty goals, but to find that thing that you could happily do for hours with no other reward than the joy the activity itself brings. If you want to write, find the method that makes you feel this bliss. It's really the key to everything, because it will keep you coming back to write more words, and that's really all that matters if you want to write a longer piece of work. When you've find your method, you should start studying the art of editing. It's where all the technical stuff is, and you'll need it too. Make sure to only measure your success by how much you've learned, not how many books you written, or how many readers you have. | 0 | 22,979 | 1.666667 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7mnkt | if75cuq | 1,657,204,500 | 1,657,196,346 | 5 | 2 | Read and write as much as you can. Listen to booktube until you get the hang of the beginner lessons. Read and write as much as you can. (It's worth saying twice.) | Just write | 1 | 8,154 | 2.5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7amc5 | if7mnkt | 1,657,199,069 | 1,657,204,500 | 1 | 5 | Just start | Read and write as much as you can. Listen to booktube until you get the hang of the beginner lessons. Read and write as much as you can. (It's worth saying twice.) | 0 | 5,431 | 5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7mnkt | if7kbjf | 1,657,204,500 | 1,657,203,511 | 5 | 1 | Read and write as much as you can. Listen to booktube until you get the hang of the beginner lessons. Read and write as much as you can. (It's worth saying twice.) | Write about things you are most interested in. It will make life as a professional writer much easier. | 1 | 989 | 5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if84xqm | if75cuq | 1,657,211,776 | 1,657,196,346 | 5 | 2 | Joseph Campbell famously said "Follow your bliss." He didn't mean to aim for the stars or set lofty goals, but to find that thing that you could happily do for hours with no other reward than the joy the activity itself brings. If you want to write, find the method that makes you feel this bliss. It's really the key to everything, because it will keep you coming back to write more words, and that's really all that matters if you want to write a longer piece of work. When you've find your method, you should start studying the art of editing. It's where all the technical stuff is, and you'll need it too. Make sure to only measure your success by how much you've learned, not how many books you written, or how many readers you have. | Just write | 1 | 15,430 | 2.5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7amc5 | if84xqm | 1,657,199,069 | 1,657,211,776 | 1 | 5 | Just start | Joseph Campbell famously said "Follow your bliss." He didn't mean to aim for the stars or set lofty goals, but to find that thing that you could happily do for hours with no other reward than the joy the activity itself brings. If you want to write, find the method that makes you feel this bliss. It's really the key to everything, because it will keep you coming back to write more words, and that's really all that matters if you want to write a longer piece of work. When you've find your method, you should start studying the art of editing. It's where all the technical stuff is, and you'll need it too. Make sure to only measure your success by how much you've learned, not how many books you written, or how many readers you have. | 0 | 12,707 | 5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if84xqm | if7kbjf | 1,657,211,776 | 1,657,203,511 | 5 | 1 | Joseph Campbell famously said "Follow your bliss." He didn't mean to aim for the stars or set lofty goals, but to find that thing that you could happily do for hours with no other reward than the joy the activity itself brings. If you want to write, find the method that makes you feel this bliss. It's really the key to everything, because it will keep you coming back to write more words, and that's really all that matters if you want to write a longer piece of work. When you've find your method, you should start studying the art of editing. It's where all the technical stuff is, and you'll need it too. Make sure to only measure your success by how much you've learned, not how many books you written, or how many readers you have. | Write about things you are most interested in. It will make life as a professional writer much easier. | 1 | 8,265 | 5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if75cuq | if994e2 | 1,657,196,346 | 1,657,227,167 | 2 | 3 | Just write | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | 0 | 30,821 | 1.5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if88p9n | if994e2 | 1,657,213,219 | 1,657,227,167 | 2 | 3 | Accept that you won't be able to match what is in your imagination at the start. You need to write out thousands of words of mediocre writing, so get to it and eventually it will improve. Read craft books, read fiction you love, and keep feeding your creativity with whatever sparks it for you. | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | 0 | 13,948 | 1.5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8fzm3 | if994e2 | 1,657,216,019 | 1,657,227,167 | 2 | 3 | "Write everything you want to write. Write everything you have in mind. Don't mind what people will think of you and your work. What matters is that you're happy and you're not hurting anybody with what you're doing." | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | 0 | 11,148 | 1.5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if994e2 | if8t24n | 1,657,227,167 | 1,657,221,031 | 3 | 2 | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | I've made a living writing my entire adult life - as a journalist, editor and now in advocacy communications. A few things. I'm not sure where you are living, but journalism in the US is not something I'd recommend getting into right now. I came up through newspapers and watched newsrooms lay off half of their newsrooms or more, until my number finally came up. That was more than a decade ago. By this point, journalists are vastly overworked, standards have slipped, and I don't know a single person in the business who is still happy. That said, if you have a real burning desire to go into journalism - I'm talking a calling here, not just "I guess I'll do this" - go for it, but do it with your eyes open and your head clear. Public relations doesn't sound as noble perhaps, but keep in mind that you don't have to do PR for a corporation. I did PR for my state Legislature and now for a nonprofit working on criminal justice reform. This is far more rewarding for me than journalism ever was, to be honest. For me, the expectation that journalists be neutral and have no public opinions always felt like a straitjacket, and I'm glad to be free of it. Now, I don't mean to be harsh, and you do say you aren't in an English-speaking country, but please hear me out. If you seek to become an editor, you have to know the rules of grammar better than most anyone you know, and you better not be relying on spellcheck to catch your errors. You wrote, "Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor." I realize this is the internet, but if you ever sent in a cover letter to be an editor using 'u' for 'you' ... just, no. Even if you will end up writing or editing for a youth-oriented publication, you have to demonstrate you know what the rules are before you go about breaking them. Freelancing isn't something I've done a lot of, but the fact that you live where a lot of English speaking people aren't could give you an advantage. You could try reaching out to some English-language publications and letting them know that you're interested in work as a freelancer or stringer, and give them some of your writing samples. If something interesting happens in the area where you live, it would be a lot more affordable for them to turn to you to contribute to a story or write an entire story than it would be to send a reporter for the US/UK/Canada or wherever to where you are. Another thing you could do is set up an account on a place like Medium and start writing essays. See if you can build up a following. Not only does that give you practice, but it also makes you a lot more marketable when or if you want to approach a publisher. Good luck! | 1 | 6,136 | 1.5 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8i5cy | if994e2 | 1,657,216,847 | 1,657,227,167 | 1 | 3 | Read | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | 0 | 10,320 | 3 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if994e2 | if7amc5 | 1,657,227,167 | 1,657,199,069 | 3 | 1 | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | Just start | 1 | 28,098 | 3 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if994e2 | if7kbjf | 1,657,227,167 | 1,657,203,511 | 3 | 1 | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | Write about things you are most interested in. It will make life as a professional writer much easier. | 1 | 23,656 | 3 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if994e2 | if8qskx | 1,657,227,167 | 1,657,220,149 | 3 | 1 | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | There are no rules when you know what you are doing. Don't think you know what you are doing. When you know it, you know it. Also, write whatever you want. If your unfamiliar with a topic, do some research. You are not forbidden to write something, because you are not experienced in that. If that would be the case, woman wouldn't be allowed to write men, and men wouldn't be allowed to write woman. | 1 | 7,018 | 3 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8rlja | if994e2 | 1,657,220,462 | 1,657,227,167 | 1 | 3 | For newbie novelists, I like the resources on NaNoWriMo.org | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | 0 | 6,705 | 3 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8w8pe | if994e2 | 1,657,222,266 | 1,657,227,167 | 1 | 3 | Get your heart broken a lot. The faster you get rejected and learn what people don't like, the sooner you'll be able to sharpen your work up. Plus it will be easier to submit to agents and publishers. I mean, just going by your writing right now, you're in no position to be applying for work in any professional trade as a writer or editor. But in a few years with lots of practice, you can get there. | As a young writer who is also just starting: things are allowed to suck. Don’t get caught on them sucking. | 0 | 4,901 | 3 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7amc5 | if88p9n | 1,657,199,069 | 1,657,213,219 | 1 | 2 | Just start | Accept that you won't be able to match what is in your imagination at the start. You need to write out thousands of words of mediocre writing, so get to it and eventually it will improve. Read craft books, read fiction you love, and keep feeding your creativity with whatever sparks it for you. | 0 | 14,150 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7kbjf | if88p9n | 1,657,203,511 | 1,657,213,219 | 1 | 2 | Write about things you are most interested in. It will make life as a professional writer much easier. | Accept that you won't be able to match what is in your imagination at the start. You need to write out thousands of words of mediocre writing, so get to it and eventually it will improve. Read craft books, read fiction you love, and keep feeding your creativity with whatever sparks it for you. | 0 | 9,708 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7amc5 | if8fzm3 | 1,657,199,069 | 1,657,216,019 | 1 | 2 | Just start | "Write everything you want to write. Write everything you have in mind. Don't mind what people will think of you and your work. What matters is that you're happy and you're not hurting anybody with what you're doing." | 0 | 16,950 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if7kbjf | if8fzm3 | 1,657,203,511 | 1,657,216,019 | 1 | 2 | Write about things you are most interested in. It will make life as a professional writer much easier. | "Write everything you want to write. Write everything you have in mind. Don't mind what people will think of you and your work. What matters is that you're happy and you're not hurting anybody with what you're doing." | 0 | 12,508 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8i5cy | if8t24n | 1,657,216,847 | 1,657,221,031 | 1 | 2 | Read | I've made a living writing my entire adult life - as a journalist, editor and now in advocacy communications. A few things. I'm not sure where you are living, but journalism in the US is not something I'd recommend getting into right now. I came up through newspapers and watched newsrooms lay off half of their newsrooms or more, until my number finally came up. That was more than a decade ago. By this point, journalists are vastly overworked, standards have slipped, and I don't know a single person in the business who is still happy. That said, if you have a real burning desire to go into journalism - I'm talking a calling here, not just "I guess I'll do this" - go for it, but do it with your eyes open and your head clear. Public relations doesn't sound as noble perhaps, but keep in mind that you don't have to do PR for a corporation. I did PR for my state Legislature and now for a nonprofit working on criminal justice reform. This is far more rewarding for me than journalism ever was, to be honest. For me, the expectation that journalists be neutral and have no public opinions always felt like a straitjacket, and I'm glad to be free of it. Now, I don't mean to be harsh, and you do say you aren't in an English-speaking country, but please hear me out. If you seek to become an editor, you have to know the rules of grammar better than most anyone you know, and you better not be relying on spellcheck to catch your errors. You wrote, "Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor." I realize this is the internet, but if you ever sent in a cover letter to be an editor using 'u' for 'you' ... just, no. Even if you will end up writing or editing for a youth-oriented publication, you have to demonstrate you know what the rules are before you go about breaking them. Freelancing isn't something I've done a lot of, but the fact that you live where a lot of English speaking people aren't could give you an advantage. You could try reaching out to some English-language publications and letting them know that you're interested in work as a freelancer or stringer, and give them some of your writing samples. If something interesting happens in the area where you live, it would be a lot more affordable for them to turn to you to contribute to a story or write an entire story than it would be to send a reporter for the US/UK/Canada or wherever to where you are. Another thing you could do is set up an account on a place like Medium and start writing essays. See if you can build up a following. Not only does that give you practice, but it also makes you a lot more marketable when or if you want to approach a publisher. Good luck! | 0 | 4,184 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8t24n | if7amc5 | 1,657,221,031 | 1,657,199,069 | 2 | 1 | I've made a living writing my entire adult life - as a journalist, editor and now in advocacy communications. A few things. I'm not sure where you are living, but journalism in the US is not something I'd recommend getting into right now. I came up through newspapers and watched newsrooms lay off half of their newsrooms or more, until my number finally came up. That was more than a decade ago. By this point, journalists are vastly overworked, standards have slipped, and I don't know a single person in the business who is still happy. That said, if you have a real burning desire to go into journalism - I'm talking a calling here, not just "I guess I'll do this" - go for it, but do it with your eyes open and your head clear. Public relations doesn't sound as noble perhaps, but keep in mind that you don't have to do PR for a corporation. I did PR for my state Legislature and now for a nonprofit working on criminal justice reform. This is far more rewarding for me than journalism ever was, to be honest. For me, the expectation that journalists be neutral and have no public opinions always felt like a straitjacket, and I'm glad to be free of it. Now, I don't mean to be harsh, and you do say you aren't in an English-speaking country, but please hear me out. If you seek to become an editor, you have to know the rules of grammar better than most anyone you know, and you better not be relying on spellcheck to catch your errors. You wrote, "Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor." I realize this is the internet, but if you ever sent in a cover letter to be an editor using 'u' for 'you' ... just, no. Even if you will end up writing or editing for a youth-oriented publication, you have to demonstrate you know what the rules are before you go about breaking them. Freelancing isn't something I've done a lot of, but the fact that you live where a lot of English speaking people aren't could give you an advantage. You could try reaching out to some English-language publications and letting them know that you're interested in work as a freelancer or stringer, and give them some of your writing samples. If something interesting happens in the area where you live, it would be a lot more affordable for them to turn to you to contribute to a story or write an entire story than it would be to send a reporter for the US/UK/Canada or wherever to where you are. Another thing you could do is set up an account on a place like Medium and start writing essays. See if you can build up a following. Not only does that give you practice, but it also makes you a lot more marketable when or if you want to approach a publisher. Good luck! | Just start | 1 | 21,962 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8t24n | if7kbjf | 1,657,221,031 | 1,657,203,511 | 2 | 1 | I've made a living writing my entire adult life - as a journalist, editor and now in advocacy communications. A few things. I'm not sure where you are living, but journalism in the US is not something I'd recommend getting into right now. I came up through newspapers and watched newsrooms lay off half of their newsrooms or more, until my number finally came up. That was more than a decade ago. By this point, journalists are vastly overworked, standards have slipped, and I don't know a single person in the business who is still happy. That said, if you have a real burning desire to go into journalism - I'm talking a calling here, not just "I guess I'll do this" - go for it, but do it with your eyes open and your head clear. Public relations doesn't sound as noble perhaps, but keep in mind that you don't have to do PR for a corporation. I did PR for my state Legislature and now for a nonprofit working on criminal justice reform. This is far more rewarding for me than journalism ever was, to be honest. For me, the expectation that journalists be neutral and have no public opinions always felt like a straitjacket, and I'm glad to be free of it. Now, I don't mean to be harsh, and you do say you aren't in an English-speaking country, but please hear me out. If you seek to become an editor, you have to know the rules of grammar better than most anyone you know, and you better not be relying on spellcheck to catch your errors. You wrote, "Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor." I realize this is the internet, but if you ever sent in a cover letter to be an editor using 'u' for 'you' ... just, no. Even if you will end up writing or editing for a youth-oriented publication, you have to demonstrate you know what the rules are before you go about breaking them. Freelancing isn't something I've done a lot of, but the fact that you live where a lot of English speaking people aren't could give you an advantage. You could try reaching out to some English-language publications and letting them know that you're interested in work as a freelancer or stringer, and give them some of your writing samples. If something interesting happens in the area where you live, it would be a lot more affordable for them to turn to you to contribute to a story or write an entire story than it would be to send a reporter for the US/UK/Canada or wherever to where you are. Another thing you could do is set up an account on a place like Medium and start writing essays. See if you can build up a following. Not only does that give you practice, but it also makes you a lot more marketable when or if you want to approach a publisher. Good luck! | Write about things you are most interested in. It will make life as a professional writer much easier. | 1 | 17,520 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8t24n | if8qskx | 1,657,221,031 | 1,657,220,149 | 2 | 1 | I've made a living writing my entire adult life - as a journalist, editor and now in advocacy communications. A few things. I'm not sure where you are living, but journalism in the US is not something I'd recommend getting into right now. I came up through newspapers and watched newsrooms lay off half of their newsrooms or more, until my number finally came up. That was more than a decade ago. By this point, journalists are vastly overworked, standards have slipped, and I don't know a single person in the business who is still happy. That said, if you have a real burning desire to go into journalism - I'm talking a calling here, not just "I guess I'll do this" - go for it, but do it with your eyes open and your head clear. Public relations doesn't sound as noble perhaps, but keep in mind that you don't have to do PR for a corporation. I did PR for my state Legislature and now for a nonprofit working on criminal justice reform. This is far more rewarding for me than journalism ever was, to be honest. For me, the expectation that journalists be neutral and have no public opinions always felt like a straitjacket, and I'm glad to be free of it. Now, I don't mean to be harsh, and you do say you aren't in an English-speaking country, but please hear me out. If you seek to become an editor, you have to know the rules of grammar better than most anyone you know, and you better not be relying on spellcheck to catch your errors. You wrote, "Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor." I realize this is the internet, but if you ever sent in a cover letter to be an editor using 'u' for 'you' ... just, no. Even if you will end up writing or editing for a youth-oriented publication, you have to demonstrate you know what the rules are before you go about breaking them. Freelancing isn't something I've done a lot of, but the fact that you live where a lot of English speaking people aren't could give you an advantage. You could try reaching out to some English-language publications and letting them know that you're interested in work as a freelancer or stringer, and give them some of your writing samples. If something interesting happens in the area where you live, it would be a lot more affordable for them to turn to you to contribute to a story or write an entire story than it would be to send a reporter for the US/UK/Canada or wherever to where you are. Another thing you could do is set up an account on a place like Medium and start writing essays. See if you can build up a following. Not only does that give you practice, but it also makes you a lot more marketable when or if you want to approach a publisher. Good luck! | There are no rules when you know what you are doing. Don't think you know what you are doing. When you know it, you know it. Also, write whatever you want. If your unfamiliar with a topic, do some research. You are not forbidden to write something, because you are not experienced in that. If that would be the case, woman wouldn't be allowed to write men, and men wouldn't be allowed to write woman. | 1 | 882 | 2 | ||
vtf32k | writing_train | 0.71 | What advices could you give to a young writer who’s just starting? I’m genuinely interested in anything related to languages - writing, reading, linguistics, poems, anything. However, i’m just not sure where or how to start writing. Do i just jump to writing a mini novel? I do write sometimes, mostly poems for my loved ones on their birthdays or when something evokes my emotions but i want to take it to next level. Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor? Or get to publish an article in a magazine or a newspaper. The issues is im not living in an English speaking country but i want to get started on journalism. Any advices would be appreciated. | if8rlja | if8t24n | 1,657,220,462 | 1,657,221,031 | 1 | 2 | For newbie novelists, I like the resources on NaNoWriMo.org | I've made a living writing my entire adult life - as a journalist, editor and now in advocacy communications. A few things. I'm not sure where you are living, but journalism in the US is not something I'd recommend getting into right now. I came up through newspapers and watched newsrooms lay off half of their newsrooms or more, until my number finally came up. That was more than a decade ago. By this point, journalists are vastly overworked, standards have slipped, and I don't know a single person in the business who is still happy. That said, if you have a real burning desire to go into journalism - I'm talking a calling here, not just "I guess I'll do this" - go for it, but do it with your eyes open and your head clear. Public relations doesn't sound as noble perhaps, but keep in mind that you don't have to do PR for a corporation. I did PR for my state Legislature and now for a nonprofit working on criminal justice reform. This is far more rewarding for me than journalism ever was, to be honest. For me, the expectation that journalists be neutral and have no public opinions always felt like a straitjacket, and I'm glad to be free of it. Now, I don't mean to be harsh, and you do say you aren't in an English-speaking country, but please hear me out. If you seek to become an editor, you have to know the rules of grammar better than most anyone you know, and you better not be relying on spellcheck to catch your errors. You wrote, "Also, how do u get yourself to work as a proofreader or an editor." I realize this is the internet, but if you ever sent in a cover letter to be an editor using 'u' for 'you' ... just, no. Even if you will end up writing or editing for a youth-oriented publication, you have to demonstrate you know what the rules are before you go about breaking them. Freelancing isn't something I've done a lot of, but the fact that you live where a lot of English speaking people aren't could give you an advantage. You could try reaching out to some English-language publications and letting them know that you're interested in work as a freelancer or stringer, and give them some of your writing samples. If something interesting happens in the area where you live, it would be a lot more affordable for them to turn to you to contribute to a story or write an entire story than it would be to send a reporter for the US/UK/Canada or wherever to where you are. Another thing you could do is set up an account on a place like Medium and start writing essays. See if you can build up a following. Not only does that give you practice, but it also makes you a lot more marketable when or if you want to approach a publisher. Good luck! | 0 | 569 | 2 | ||
zs1da4 | writing_train | 0.78 | Any advice on how to recall a query? Hello reddit! I've been querying a completed manuscript the last few months and recently received some feedback from an agent that was really helpful. If I follow it, I will need to rewrite a lot of things, which I am willing and want to do. However, I have a few active queries out with agents I'd love to work with. Has anyone ever reached out to withdraw an active query and been able resubmit after revising? How should I go about doing this? | j16t8de | j17ty04 | 1,671,675,268 | 1,671,697,278 | 1 | 2 | No chance. Makes little sense, you have a response already. Did the agent tell you fix this but don't send it to me after? The others may tell you the same. Fix it and return it to everyone who asks for it. | Don't worry about it. If you have to re-categorize your work then it's a major revision rendering the previous version invalid anyway. And if someone else like your work "as is", maybe the first feedback was not quite on the nose. Either way, your life goes on. | 0 | 22,010 | 2 | ||
1rm0o8 | writing_train | 0.87 | At what point does a world become too much? We all know of extensive and thought out worlds such as that of say Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. I ask: at what point does it go from a successful thought out world to someone rambling on about delusions? If the issue is less about quantity of material and more on the deliverance, what would you all say are the do's and don'ts? I'm simply curious because I've been working on one thoroughly, and have seen that there are many others who do the exact same. I'm just curious as to what makes fantasy worlds successful and what makes them fail, if there is a line to draw in the sand or if it's the very extensiveness that makes them strong. | cdoqf70 | cdp0b80 | 1,385,614,857 | 1,385,659,421 | 1 | 2 | A fantasy world doesn't work for me when I can tell that the author hasn't actually been there in his imagination. That he's just making up stuff he thinks is cool, and hasn't bothered to experience his story the way he expects me to. | >extensive and thought out worlds such as that of say Star Wars or Lord of the Rings SW did not start out extensive and thought out, but only with a princess in trouble. When Lucas started taking his "politics" seriously, the movies turned to suck. LotR is famously extensive and thought out but the only story we love is of a little hobbit in trouble. The Silmarillion knocks most readers out cold. >what makes fantasy worlds successful and what makes them fail They are successful as settings in which characters think, feel, and act. They fail where the story is about the world and not the characters. | 0 | 44,564 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hokymd9 | hokyv07 | 1,639,528,223 | 1,639,528,335 | 1 | 7 | >What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? This is a problem I have with my story. MC moves very fast. They meet on Monday, and the next week-end she's already sleeping at her place! (with challenging circumstances) I make it believable with MC's manipulative talent (80%) and the other character good will and traits (20%). This isn't a normal relationship at the beginning. (EDIT: not even after, but for other reasons) Chemistry: something subtle happens but both are not aware of it yet. MC fells in love on Saturday and she hides it. Btw what do you mean by '*general*' audience? | It partially depends on what kind of story you are telling. If the story is a classic enemies to lovers, then the drama comes from having them NOT like each other at first, and watching the relationship build slowly over time. If we are talking more forbidden lovers, the drama comes from them wanting to be together but not being able to. In this case, you want the fact that the two characters are interested in each other to be apparent very quickly. But being attracted to someone is very different than loving them! In this case, you want the bud of the relationship to be obvious, but you need to have scenes where they get to know one another before anyone throws out the L word. This is also somewhat affected by the length of story. If you are writing a short story, the pacing is increased. You may only have time for a few scenes to further a relationship unless it's the central plot. In a novel, you have more time to explore nuance. Just remember that the interesting part of love stories isn't the happy ever after. It's getting to watch the relationship build over time, seeing the characters find things about the other that they treasure. | 0 | 112 | 7 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hokzf3q | hokymd9 | 1,639,528,591 | 1,639,528,223 | 4 | 1 | This question rather conflates two sentiments that don't go together. In real life, moving too fast means one or both parties are not ready yet the relationship progresses more quickly anyway. That's where someone would say, "I think we're moving too fast." In terms of fictional realism? There is no "too fast" when it comes to developing a relationship; they can occur spontaneously. Fiction doesn't recreate reality, so "being plausible" is not a high priority. Readers typically don't say, "That's too fast," when they're reading about a relationship -- they're just looking to see how \[the hasty speediness\] all unfolds; in the same way people don't question Batman's whole schtick, we just want to watch him mess up criminals with his fists. When did huge ears ever strike terror?? What you can do is turn the realistic opinion into a story idea; you can dramatize the sentiment of moving too quickly, which would be both accurate to real life as well as compelling drama. Compelling drama is where you want to be, not necessarily accurate to real-life. Readers want to see the ups and downs and the forwards and retreats when it comes to relationships. Remember, when creating a compelling romance -- you don't want to compare fictional romances to real romances; what you want to do is portray the romance as being a rollercoaster unto itself. **Mixing in bittersweet moments will help prevent criticisms of "they're moving too fast."** | >What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? This is a problem I have with my story. MC moves very fast. They meet on Monday, and the next week-end she's already sleeping at her place! (with challenging circumstances) I make it believable with MC's manipulative talent (80%) and the other character good will and traits (20%). This isn't a normal relationship at the beginning. (EDIT: not even after, but for other reasons) Chemistry: something subtle happens but both are not aware of it yet. MC fells in love on Saturday and she hides it. Btw what do you mean by '*general*' audience? | 1 | 368 | 4 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | homwmbm | hop22ls | 1,639,570,687 | 1,639,603,200 | 2 | 3 | I would guess that it's the editing process that causes a lot of these. The writer's second draft has two characters meet, interact with each other in believable ways, and fall in love. But the draft is 50% too long. Something has to be cut. So he starts snipping away everything which doesn't advance the plot, which includes 50% of the characters' early interaction. At this point, the two characters meet, interact briefly, and suddenly they're in love. But the draft is only 10% too long, and his agent says it's good enough. So off it goes, and you have yet another relationship which moves too fast. If only he'd developed it properly, say the critics. But then they wouldn't be buying the book at all. | It depends on the genre. Love at first sight (or "instalove" or "instalust") is common in romance and all its sub-genres. The timeline isn't the issue. You have to make it work, make it credible to the reader. | 0 | 32,513 | 1.5 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hop22ls | hona0f9 | 1,639,603,200 | 1,639,577,904 | 3 | 2 | It depends on the genre. Love at first sight (or "instalove" or "instalust") is common in romance and all its sub-genres. The timeline isn't the issue. You have to make it work, make it credible to the reader. | I think it depends on the characters. For example, some people who are emotionally unstable or mentally ill tend to move too fast with relationships. I myself am/was one of those people. Also, there might be an event that causes two characters to become quickly attached to each other. Maybe they both experience a traumatic event together. Maybe one of them has had a particularly devastating breakup or divorce and is desperate for a rebound to fill the void. Maybe one of the characters is naive about love or desperate for it. Maybe they confuse lust with love. There are many variables and factors to consider. It all depends on your characters and what they go through individually or together on the epic journey like you mentioned. | 1 | 25,296 | 1.5 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hop22ls | hona1dt | 1,639,603,200 | 1,639,577,916 | 3 | 2 | It depends on the genre. Love at first sight (or "instalove" or "instalust") is common in romance and all its sub-genres. The timeline isn't the issue. You have to make it work, make it credible to the reader. | I think sexual attraction plays into it. If you start with that, then the rest can fall into line as the story develops. I see this through descriptions, how they see each other - or maybe they are doing something fairly common together but the one has a sexualized thought about the other. I’m also super into a romance where there is some obstacle about why they can’t just acknowledge that sexual attraction, have sex and build a relationship. They have to overcome something just to be together so there is a sexual longing. I also like when there is a sense of loss if their relationship wouldn’t work. Not just a loss of sexual opportunity but that they’d actually miss things about them or their life wouldn’t be as great because they aren’t in it. | 1 | 25,284 | 1.5 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | honzf5r | hop22ls | 1,639,588,308 | 1,639,603,200 | 2 | 3 | I think if they are too emotionally involved, and passionate from the get go. I like relationship stories where an interest is made, but they get to know each other and live their own life only to end up together. Might just be me though | It depends on the genre. Love at first sight (or "instalove" or "instalust") is common in romance and all its sub-genres. The timeline isn't the issue. You have to make it work, make it credible to the reader. | 0 | 14,892 | 1.5 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hop22ls | hokymd9 | 1,639,603,200 | 1,639,528,223 | 3 | 1 | It depends on the genre. Love at first sight (or "instalove" or "instalust") is common in romance and all its sub-genres. The timeline isn't the issue. You have to make it work, make it credible to the reader. | >What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? This is a problem I have with my story. MC moves very fast. They meet on Monday, and the next week-end she's already sleeping at her place! (with challenging circumstances) I make it believable with MC's manipulative talent (80%) and the other character good will and traits (20%). This isn't a normal relationship at the beginning. (EDIT: not even after, but for other reasons) Chemistry: something subtle happens but both are not aware of it yet. MC fells in love on Saturday and she hides it. Btw what do you mean by '*general*' audience? | 1 | 74,977 | 3 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | holgj3m | hop22ls | 1,639,536,365 | 1,639,603,200 | 1 | 3 | One of the biggest things I see. Is that authors who cater to those major principles of real life. I.e. they can't have sex before marriage, they can't hold hands, or they just based off kiddy love (anime love) For example, a random stranger I met wrote a YA romance... I'm a tough guy but I read it anyways. The first opening was a solid line of how my childhood wasn't. The Mc had a crush on a girl who was popular.. I had a crush on an average girl who I, one hundred percent could relate to. (She wasn't top ten best looking girl, she didn't have my taste that I developed now, and she was a tomboy that couldn't stop hitting hitting cause I had a little more meat then she did.. abusive women I tell ya) In his story, the Mc didn't do anything to get this girl attention, he didn't stand out in any way, shape, or form. However, he accidentally saves her from falling off a ladder.. (I saved tons of women but other than being grateful.. nothing progress.) They started hanging out and chatting from that point on. (Friends-zone) however, it somehow started getting steamy.. those looks, bumps, pen falling and they bump hands (I tried this and I got elbowed, punch, shen kicked, pinch. Then I finally said fuck it, you want to fuxk or what? She said No, I walked away and found someone else.. she realized her mistake, few months of acting like terrier, we got engage and she died of cancer) But the point is, during this whole thing.. everything he did didn't work for me.. Definitely didn't work for the corny ass kids I knew and hung with. Didn't work for me after boxing or during it.. nor when I got depressed and join the military.. Some might say it didn't sound like it moved fast.. the book was 50k words and 25 percent in he saved her 30% he moved to second base 40% it got real steamy, they bump lips.. 50% her dad found out and was like oh hell naw, to naw, naw, naw.. in short it moves quickly and didn't really look like shit that could be believable to me but other people said it was possible.. Possible enough to take my fist to face for lying.. | It depends on the genre. Love at first sight (or "instalove" or "instalust") is common in romance and all its sub-genres. The timeline isn't the issue. You have to make it work, make it credible to the reader. | 0 | 66,835 | 3 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hokymd9 | homwmbm | 1,639,528,223 | 1,639,570,687 | 1 | 2 | >What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? This is a problem I have with my story. MC moves very fast. They meet on Monday, and the next week-end she's already sleeping at her place! (with challenging circumstances) I make it believable with MC's manipulative talent (80%) and the other character good will and traits (20%). This isn't a normal relationship at the beginning. (EDIT: not even after, but for other reasons) Chemistry: something subtle happens but both are not aware of it yet. MC fells in love on Saturday and she hides it. Btw what do you mean by '*general*' audience? | I would guess that it's the editing process that causes a lot of these. The writer's second draft has two characters meet, interact with each other in believable ways, and fall in love. But the draft is 50% too long. Something has to be cut. So he starts snipping away everything which doesn't advance the plot, which includes 50% of the characters' early interaction. At this point, the two characters meet, interact briefly, and suddenly they're in love. But the draft is only 10% too long, and his agent says it's good enough. So off it goes, and you have yet another relationship which moves too fast. If only he'd developed it properly, say the critics. But then they wouldn't be buying the book at all. | 0 | 42,464 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | homwmbm | holgj3m | 1,639,570,687 | 1,639,536,365 | 2 | 1 | I would guess that it's the editing process that causes a lot of these. The writer's second draft has two characters meet, interact with each other in believable ways, and fall in love. But the draft is 50% too long. Something has to be cut. So he starts snipping away everything which doesn't advance the plot, which includes 50% of the characters' early interaction. At this point, the two characters meet, interact briefly, and suddenly they're in love. But the draft is only 10% too long, and his agent says it's good enough. So off it goes, and you have yet another relationship which moves too fast. If only he'd developed it properly, say the critics. But then they wouldn't be buying the book at all. | One of the biggest things I see. Is that authors who cater to those major principles of real life. I.e. they can't have sex before marriage, they can't hold hands, or they just based off kiddy love (anime love) For example, a random stranger I met wrote a YA romance... I'm a tough guy but I read it anyways. The first opening was a solid line of how my childhood wasn't. The Mc had a crush on a girl who was popular.. I had a crush on an average girl who I, one hundred percent could relate to. (She wasn't top ten best looking girl, she didn't have my taste that I developed now, and she was a tomboy that couldn't stop hitting hitting cause I had a little more meat then she did.. abusive women I tell ya) In his story, the Mc didn't do anything to get this girl attention, he didn't stand out in any way, shape, or form. However, he accidentally saves her from falling off a ladder.. (I saved tons of women but other than being grateful.. nothing progress.) They started hanging out and chatting from that point on. (Friends-zone) however, it somehow started getting steamy.. those looks, bumps, pen falling and they bump hands (I tried this and I got elbowed, punch, shen kicked, pinch. Then I finally said fuck it, you want to fuxk or what? She said No, I walked away and found someone else.. she realized her mistake, few months of acting like terrier, we got engage and she died of cancer) But the point is, during this whole thing.. everything he did didn't work for me.. Definitely didn't work for the corny ass kids I knew and hung with. Didn't work for me after boxing or during it.. nor when I got depressed and join the military.. Some might say it didn't sound like it moved fast.. the book was 50k words and 25 percent in he saved her 30% he moved to second base 40% it got real steamy, they bump lips.. 50% her dad found out and was like oh hell naw, to naw, naw, naw.. in short it moves quickly and didn't really look like shit that could be believable to me but other people said it was possible.. Possible enough to take my fist to face for lying.. | 1 | 34,322 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hokymd9 | hona0f9 | 1,639,528,223 | 1,639,577,904 | 1 | 2 | >What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? This is a problem I have with my story. MC moves very fast. They meet on Monday, and the next week-end she's already sleeping at her place! (with challenging circumstances) I make it believable with MC's manipulative talent (80%) and the other character good will and traits (20%). This isn't a normal relationship at the beginning. (EDIT: not even after, but for other reasons) Chemistry: something subtle happens but both are not aware of it yet. MC fells in love on Saturday and she hides it. Btw what do you mean by '*general*' audience? | I think it depends on the characters. For example, some people who are emotionally unstable or mentally ill tend to move too fast with relationships. I myself am/was one of those people. Also, there might be an event that causes two characters to become quickly attached to each other. Maybe they both experience a traumatic event together. Maybe one of them has had a particularly devastating breakup or divorce and is desperate for a rebound to fill the void. Maybe one of the characters is naive about love or desperate for it. Maybe they confuse lust with love. There are many variables and factors to consider. It all depends on your characters and what they go through individually or together on the epic journey like you mentioned. | 0 | 49,681 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hona0f9 | holgj3m | 1,639,577,904 | 1,639,536,365 | 2 | 1 | I think it depends on the characters. For example, some people who are emotionally unstable or mentally ill tend to move too fast with relationships. I myself am/was one of those people. Also, there might be an event that causes two characters to become quickly attached to each other. Maybe they both experience a traumatic event together. Maybe one of them has had a particularly devastating breakup or divorce and is desperate for a rebound to fill the void. Maybe one of the characters is naive about love or desperate for it. Maybe they confuse lust with love. There are many variables and factors to consider. It all depends on your characters and what they go through individually or together on the epic journey like you mentioned. | One of the biggest things I see. Is that authors who cater to those major principles of real life. I.e. they can't have sex before marriage, they can't hold hands, or they just based off kiddy love (anime love) For example, a random stranger I met wrote a YA romance... I'm a tough guy but I read it anyways. The first opening was a solid line of how my childhood wasn't. The Mc had a crush on a girl who was popular.. I had a crush on an average girl who I, one hundred percent could relate to. (She wasn't top ten best looking girl, she didn't have my taste that I developed now, and she was a tomboy that couldn't stop hitting hitting cause I had a little more meat then she did.. abusive women I tell ya) In his story, the Mc didn't do anything to get this girl attention, he didn't stand out in any way, shape, or form. However, he accidentally saves her from falling off a ladder.. (I saved tons of women but other than being grateful.. nothing progress.) They started hanging out and chatting from that point on. (Friends-zone) however, it somehow started getting steamy.. those looks, bumps, pen falling and they bump hands (I tried this and I got elbowed, punch, shen kicked, pinch. Then I finally said fuck it, you want to fuxk or what? She said No, I walked away and found someone else.. she realized her mistake, few months of acting like terrier, we got engage and she died of cancer) But the point is, during this whole thing.. everything he did didn't work for me.. Definitely didn't work for the corny ass kids I knew and hung with. Didn't work for me after boxing or during it.. nor when I got depressed and join the military.. Some might say it didn't sound like it moved fast.. the book was 50k words and 25 percent in he saved her 30% he moved to second base 40% it got real steamy, they bump lips.. 50% her dad found out and was like oh hell naw, to naw, naw, naw.. in short it moves quickly and didn't really look like shit that could be believable to me but other people said it was possible.. Possible enough to take my fist to face for lying.. | 1 | 41,539 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hokymd9 | hona1dt | 1,639,528,223 | 1,639,577,916 | 1 | 2 | >What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? This is a problem I have with my story. MC moves very fast. They meet on Monday, and the next week-end she's already sleeping at her place! (with challenging circumstances) I make it believable with MC's manipulative talent (80%) and the other character good will and traits (20%). This isn't a normal relationship at the beginning. (EDIT: not even after, but for other reasons) Chemistry: something subtle happens but both are not aware of it yet. MC fells in love on Saturday and she hides it. Btw what do you mean by '*general*' audience? | I think sexual attraction plays into it. If you start with that, then the rest can fall into line as the story develops. I see this through descriptions, how they see each other - or maybe they are doing something fairly common together but the one has a sexualized thought about the other. I’m also super into a romance where there is some obstacle about why they can’t just acknowledge that sexual attraction, have sex and build a relationship. They have to overcome something just to be together so there is a sexual longing. I also like when there is a sense of loss if their relationship wouldn’t work. Not just a loss of sexual opportunity but that they’d actually miss things about them or their life wouldn’t be as great because they aren’t in it. | 0 | 49,693 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | holgj3m | hona1dt | 1,639,536,365 | 1,639,577,916 | 1 | 2 | One of the biggest things I see. Is that authors who cater to those major principles of real life. I.e. they can't have sex before marriage, they can't hold hands, or they just based off kiddy love (anime love) For example, a random stranger I met wrote a YA romance... I'm a tough guy but I read it anyways. The first opening was a solid line of how my childhood wasn't. The Mc had a crush on a girl who was popular.. I had a crush on an average girl who I, one hundred percent could relate to. (She wasn't top ten best looking girl, she didn't have my taste that I developed now, and she was a tomboy that couldn't stop hitting hitting cause I had a little more meat then she did.. abusive women I tell ya) In his story, the Mc didn't do anything to get this girl attention, he didn't stand out in any way, shape, or form. However, he accidentally saves her from falling off a ladder.. (I saved tons of women but other than being grateful.. nothing progress.) They started hanging out and chatting from that point on. (Friends-zone) however, it somehow started getting steamy.. those looks, bumps, pen falling and they bump hands (I tried this and I got elbowed, punch, shen kicked, pinch. Then I finally said fuck it, you want to fuxk or what? She said No, I walked away and found someone else.. she realized her mistake, few months of acting like terrier, we got engage and she died of cancer) But the point is, during this whole thing.. everything he did didn't work for me.. Definitely didn't work for the corny ass kids I knew and hung with. Didn't work for me after boxing or during it.. nor when I got depressed and join the military.. Some might say it didn't sound like it moved fast.. the book was 50k words and 25 percent in he saved her 30% he moved to second base 40% it got real steamy, they bump lips.. 50% her dad found out and was like oh hell naw, to naw, naw, naw.. in short it moves quickly and didn't really look like shit that could be believable to me but other people said it was possible.. Possible enough to take my fist to face for lying.. | I think sexual attraction plays into it. If you start with that, then the rest can fall into line as the story develops. I see this through descriptions, how they see each other - or maybe they are doing something fairly common together but the one has a sexualized thought about the other. I’m also super into a romance where there is some obstacle about why they can’t just acknowledge that sexual attraction, have sex and build a relationship. They have to overcome something just to be together so there is a sexual longing. I also like when there is a sense of loss if their relationship wouldn’t work. Not just a loss of sexual opportunity but that they’d actually miss things about them or their life wouldn’t be as great because they aren’t in it. | 0 | 41,551 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | honzf5r | hokymd9 | 1,639,588,308 | 1,639,528,223 | 2 | 1 | I think if they are too emotionally involved, and passionate from the get go. I like relationship stories where an interest is made, but they get to know each other and live their own life only to end up together. Might just be me though | >What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? This is a problem I have with my story. MC moves very fast. They meet on Monday, and the next week-end she's already sleeping at her place! (with challenging circumstances) I make it believable with MC's manipulative talent (80%) and the other character good will and traits (20%). This isn't a normal relationship at the beginning. (EDIT: not even after, but for other reasons) Chemistry: something subtle happens but both are not aware of it yet. MC fells in love on Saturday and she hides it. Btw what do you mean by '*general*' audience? | 1 | 60,085 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | honzf5r | holgj3m | 1,639,588,308 | 1,639,536,365 | 2 | 1 | I think if they are too emotionally involved, and passionate from the get go. I like relationship stories where an interest is made, but they get to know each other and live their own life only to end up together. Might just be me though | One of the biggest things I see. Is that authors who cater to those major principles of real life. I.e. they can't have sex before marriage, they can't hold hands, or they just based off kiddy love (anime love) For example, a random stranger I met wrote a YA romance... I'm a tough guy but I read it anyways. The first opening was a solid line of how my childhood wasn't. The Mc had a crush on a girl who was popular.. I had a crush on an average girl who I, one hundred percent could relate to. (She wasn't top ten best looking girl, she didn't have my taste that I developed now, and she was a tomboy that couldn't stop hitting hitting cause I had a little more meat then she did.. abusive women I tell ya) In his story, the Mc didn't do anything to get this girl attention, he didn't stand out in any way, shape, or form. However, he accidentally saves her from falling off a ladder.. (I saved tons of women but other than being grateful.. nothing progress.) They started hanging out and chatting from that point on. (Friends-zone) however, it somehow started getting steamy.. those looks, bumps, pen falling and they bump hands (I tried this and I got elbowed, punch, shen kicked, pinch. Then I finally said fuck it, you want to fuxk or what? She said No, I walked away and found someone else.. she realized her mistake, few months of acting like terrier, we got engage and she died of cancer) But the point is, during this whole thing.. everything he did didn't work for me.. Definitely didn't work for the corny ass kids I knew and hung with. Didn't work for me after boxing or during it.. nor when I got depressed and join the military.. Some might say it didn't sound like it moved fast.. the book was 50k words and 25 percent in he saved her 30% he moved to second base 40% it got real steamy, they bump lips.. 50% her dad found out and was like oh hell naw, to naw, naw, naw.. in short it moves quickly and didn't really look like shit that could be believable to me but other people said it was possible.. Possible enough to take my fist to face for lying.. | 1 | 51,943 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | hopgjpa | hokymd9 | 1,639,608,994 | 1,639,528,223 | 2 | 1 | Given that the sort of adventure we're talking about constitutes a good test of a person's character, many of potential problems within a relationship (such as unreliability) will be filtered out if the people involved survive. | >What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? This is a problem I have with my story. MC moves very fast. They meet on Monday, and the next week-end she's already sleeping at her place! (with challenging circumstances) I make it believable with MC's manipulative talent (80%) and the other character good will and traits (20%). This isn't a normal relationship at the beginning. (EDIT: not even after, but for other reasons) Chemistry: something subtle happens but both are not aware of it yet. MC fells in love on Saturday and she hides it. Btw what do you mean by '*general*' audience? | 1 | 80,771 | 2 | ||
rgle78 | writing_train | 0.96 | What makes a relationship move too fast in a story? At what point would a general audience not take one seriously? Obviously this is a case be case thing, and of course various things like age, personality, and a tonne of other factors add to the nuance, whereas the falling in love in a matter of days or weeks thing is a trope that even Disney is subverting. I'd just like to know if there's any advice for pacing a functional relationship? If two+ characters who have never met each other are thrown into a situation, say an epic journey or strange phenomenon that lasts a couple weeks, would it be reasonable for them to fall in love with each other by the end? Would it be better for them to just develop affection or a friendship? What sort of interactions or feelings would need to happen between them before they could have any believable chemistry? | holgj3m | hopgjpa | 1,639,536,365 | 1,639,608,994 | 1 | 2 | One of the biggest things I see. Is that authors who cater to those major principles of real life. I.e. they can't have sex before marriage, they can't hold hands, or they just based off kiddy love (anime love) For example, a random stranger I met wrote a YA romance... I'm a tough guy but I read it anyways. The first opening was a solid line of how my childhood wasn't. The Mc had a crush on a girl who was popular.. I had a crush on an average girl who I, one hundred percent could relate to. (She wasn't top ten best looking girl, she didn't have my taste that I developed now, and she was a tomboy that couldn't stop hitting hitting cause I had a little more meat then she did.. abusive women I tell ya) In his story, the Mc didn't do anything to get this girl attention, he didn't stand out in any way, shape, or form. However, he accidentally saves her from falling off a ladder.. (I saved tons of women but other than being grateful.. nothing progress.) They started hanging out and chatting from that point on. (Friends-zone) however, it somehow started getting steamy.. those looks, bumps, pen falling and they bump hands (I tried this and I got elbowed, punch, shen kicked, pinch. Then I finally said fuck it, you want to fuxk or what? She said No, I walked away and found someone else.. she realized her mistake, few months of acting like terrier, we got engage and she died of cancer) But the point is, during this whole thing.. everything he did didn't work for me.. Definitely didn't work for the corny ass kids I knew and hung with. Didn't work for me after boxing or during it.. nor when I got depressed and join the military.. Some might say it didn't sound like it moved fast.. the book was 50k words and 25 percent in he saved her 30% he moved to second base 40% it got real steamy, they bump lips.. 50% her dad found out and was like oh hell naw, to naw, naw, naw.. in short it moves quickly and didn't really look like shit that could be believable to me but other people said it was possible.. Possible enough to take my fist to face for lying.. | Given that the sort of adventure we're talking about constitutes a good test of a person's character, many of potential problems within a relationship (such as unreliability) will be filtered out if the people involved survive. | 0 | 72,629 | 2 | ||
qao9yb | writing_train | 0.96 | At what point is a book “agent ready?” I would self publish, but I’m in college and can't afford to do that route successfully, already tried once and learned this truth. I think the book is polished and the story still hits home, but I feel like agency expects you to have a following or an already best selling work. I have a list of targetable agents, been told by five different beta readers that it's solid but needs a little grammar work and slight story knots. I drafted it out three times with a detailed chapter outline. Is it wise to submit? | hh4mc2o | hh4mv3e | 1,634,576,193 | 1,634,576,408 | -2 | 3 | You answered the question when you said “I’m in college.” This is going to hurt but the truth is that creatives aren’t taken seriously until they’re in their late 20’s/30’s. On top of that, reputable agencies will likely want a reference from someone in publishing. You could write the next Moby Dick but an agent will still turn his nose up at you because of your age and lack of industry presence. My advice would be to shelf this book for a while and get started on the next one. Also, consider going into an MFA program. They’re usually two year programs where you get to make literary contacts and write with other writers and get paid while doing it. | the voice in my head yells: “never!” and quickly sets my manuscript on fire. lol but for real I want to say when you have a tested and revised all around completed piece you should also have the art finished as well because it really is a large part of the book. from there you have a solid piece that you own and then I feel like will be confident enough to put out there. That is what I did at least! | 0 | 215 | -1.5 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1mfm5u | j1mfe30 | 1,671,985,915 | 1,671,985,804 | 29 | 15 | Depends on the quality of your first draft. Why would you rewrite it if you don’t have to Some people heavily rewrite, others work on scene structure, plot structure, character development, improving dialogue, other important things that don’t mean changing everything about the story. | This post maybe be helpful to you. | 1 | 111 | 1.933333 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1mmynm | j1mfwma | 1,671,989,435 | 1,671,986,060 | 10 | 6 | There is not "objectively best way" to do it. Part of becoming better at anything is learning yourself and your own process. But in general, your first draft isn't going to be good so you'll need to revise it. You can do that any way that works for you. You might need multiple revisions. | My last book, the second draft involved rearranging pretty much the entire thing (to mix up the different storylines more) and introducing an entire new character. | 1 | 3,375 | 1.666667 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1mmynm | j1mm62z | 1,671,989,435 | 1,671,989,054 | 10 | 4 | There is not "objectively best way" to do it. Part of becoming better at anything is learning yourself and your own process. But in general, your first draft isn't going to be good so you'll need to revise it. You can do that any way that works for you. You might need multiple revisions. | There's no standard. There are many professional authors who don't even use the word 'draft' to describe their process. They just save versions hourly. Me personally, I edit as I go. Such that when I finish it's pretty much ready for just a sanity check, polish, and proofread, before sending to the beta readers. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea for you or anybody else to do this. | 1 | 381 | 2.5 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1mhdl8 | j1mmynm | 1,671,986,770 | 1,671,989,435 | 2 | 10 | If 'second draft' means starting over, I don't do that. Typically I read the previous day's work, tweak and hopefully move forward. | There is not "objectively best way" to do it. Part of becoming better at anything is learning yourself and your own process. But in general, your first draft isn't going to be good so you'll need to revise it. You can do that any way that works for you. You might need multiple revisions. | 0 | 2,665 | 5 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1niexc | j1mfwma | 1,672,004,228 | 1,671,986,060 | 9 | 6 | For me, the first draft is about getting the story out of my head and written. So it's almost a stream of consciousness thing. Whenever I can't think of the word I want I type in something that's not in the story, like elephant or tumbleweed, but I write as fast as I can. I'm not building the sand castle, just filling the sandbox first. The second draft is where I change all of the filler words, fix punctuation and grammar, and add things I forgot the first time around. The third draft is where I decide what the story needs but does have and put that in. So like, better descriptions, elaborating on plot points, filling in any 2 dimensional characters. This is also when I cut out or change things I don't like. If I killed off the wrong character, or a car accident makes more sense than a bomb, or there's a whole subplot that doesn't make sense in the story. | My last book, the second draft involved rearranging pretty much the entire thing (to mix up the different storylines more) and introducing an entire new character. | 1 | 18,168 | 1.5 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1niexc | j1mm62z | 1,672,004,228 | 1,671,989,054 | 9 | 4 | For me, the first draft is about getting the story out of my head and written. So it's almost a stream of consciousness thing. Whenever I can't think of the word I want I type in something that's not in the story, like elephant or tumbleweed, but I write as fast as I can. I'm not building the sand castle, just filling the sandbox first. The second draft is where I change all of the filler words, fix punctuation and grammar, and add things I forgot the first time around. The third draft is where I decide what the story needs but does have and put that in. So like, better descriptions, elaborating on plot points, filling in any 2 dimensional characters. This is also when I cut out or change things I don't like. If I killed off the wrong character, or a car accident makes more sense than a bomb, or there's a whole subplot that doesn't make sense in the story. | There's no standard. There are many professional authors who don't even use the word 'draft' to describe their process. They just save versions hourly. Me personally, I edit as I go. Such that when I finish it's pretty much ready for just a sanity check, polish, and proofread, before sending to the beta readers. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea for you or anybody else to do this. | 1 | 15,174 | 2.25 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1mhdl8 | j1niexc | 1,671,986,770 | 1,672,004,228 | 2 | 9 | If 'second draft' means starting over, I don't do that. Typically I read the previous day's work, tweak and hopefully move forward. | For me, the first draft is about getting the story out of my head and written. So it's almost a stream of consciousness thing. Whenever I can't think of the word I want I type in something that's not in the story, like elephant or tumbleweed, but I write as fast as I can. I'm not building the sand castle, just filling the sandbox first. The second draft is where I change all of the filler words, fix punctuation and grammar, and add things I forgot the first time around. The third draft is where I decide what the story needs but does have and put that in. So like, better descriptions, elaborating on plot points, filling in any 2 dimensional characters. This is also when I cut out or change things I don't like. If I killed off the wrong character, or a car accident makes more sense than a bomb, or there's a whole subplot that doesn't make sense in the story. | 0 | 17,458 | 4.5 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1n0fpg | j1niexc | 1,671,995,733 | 1,672,004,228 | 1 | 9 | What you are doing would already constitute a "second" draft. I personally rewrite in a 2nd document and rename it accordingly so that I can compare both. | For me, the first draft is about getting the story out of my head and written. So it's almost a stream of consciousness thing. Whenever I can't think of the word I want I type in something that's not in the story, like elephant or tumbleweed, but I write as fast as I can. I'm not building the sand castle, just filling the sandbox first. The second draft is where I change all of the filler words, fix punctuation and grammar, and add things I forgot the first time around. The third draft is where I decide what the story needs but does have and put that in. So like, better descriptions, elaborating on plot points, filling in any 2 dimensional characters. This is also when I cut out or change things I don't like. If I killed off the wrong character, or a car accident makes more sense than a bomb, or there's a whole subplot that doesn't make sense in the story. | 0 | 8,495 | 9 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1n9jyq | j1niexc | 1,672,000,035 | 1,672,004,228 | 1 | 9 | Depends on how you write, honestly. My second draft is typically a content pass. This means going through and moving, adding, removing or changing core plot elements. I'm a pantser and I write without outlines so my first draft is usually a bit messy in that respect. | For me, the first draft is about getting the story out of my head and written. So it's almost a stream of consciousness thing. Whenever I can't think of the word I want I type in something that's not in the story, like elephant or tumbleweed, but I write as fast as I can. I'm not building the sand castle, just filling the sandbox first. The second draft is where I change all of the filler words, fix punctuation and grammar, and add things I forgot the first time around. The third draft is where I decide what the story needs but does have and put that in. So like, better descriptions, elaborating on plot points, filling in any 2 dimensional characters. This is also when I cut out or change things I don't like. If I killed off the wrong character, or a car accident makes more sense than a bomb, or there's a whole subplot that doesn't make sense in the story. | 0 | 4,193 | 9 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1niexc | j1n5xg7 | 1,672,004,228 | 1,671,998,341 | 9 | 0 | For me, the first draft is about getting the story out of my head and written. So it's almost a stream of consciousness thing. Whenever I can't think of the word I want I type in something that's not in the story, like elephant or tumbleweed, but I write as fast as I can. I'm not building the sand castle, just filling the sandbox first. The second draft is where I change all of the filler words, fix punctuation and grammar, and add things I forgot the first time around. The third draft is where I decide what the story needs but does have and put that in. So like, better descriptions, elaborating on plot points, filling in any 2 dimensional characters. This is also when I cut out or change things I don't like. If I killed off the wrong character, or a car accident makes more sense than a bomb, or there's a whole subplot that doesn't make sense in the story. | Some people who whole rewrites. I suspect it's more common to do big edits and revise/restructure after the first draft. | 1 | 5,887 | 9,000 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1ncg34 | j1niexc | 1,672,001,384 | 1,672,004,228 | 0 | 9 | I am using The Fantasy Fiction Formula which has a 10 phase editing process. I edit in layers because trying to fix everything is daunting. So draft 2 I just fixed any plot holes. Another draft I made sure all my locations were described well. Etc. | For me, the first draft is about getting the story out of my head and written. So it's almost a stream of consciousness thing. Whenever I can't think of the word I want I type in something that's not in the story, like elephant or tumbleweed, but I write as fast as I can. I'm not building the sand castle, just filling the sandbox first. The second draft is where I change all of the filler words, fix punctuation and grammar, and add things I forgot the first time around. The third draft is where I decide what the story needs but does have and put that in. So like, better descriptions, elaborating on plot points, filling in any 2 dimensional characters. This is also when I cut out or change things I don't like. If I killed off the wrong character, or a car accident makes more sense than a bomb, or there's a whole subplot that doesn't make sense in the story. | 0 | 2,844 | 9,000 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1mhdl8 | j1mm62z | 1,671,986,770 | 1,671,989,054 | 2 | 4 | If 'second draft' means starting over, I don't do that. Typically I read the previous day's work, tweak and hopefully move forward. | There's no standard. There are many professional authors who don't even use the word 'draft' to describe their process. They just save versions hourly. Me personally, I edit as I go. Such that when I finish it's pretty much ready for just a sanity check, polish, and proofread, before sending to the beta readers. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea for you or anybody else to do this. | 0 | 2,284 | 2 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1n0fpg | j1ob9w0 | 1,671,995,733 | 1,672,018,934 | 1 | 2 | What you are doing would already constitute a "second" draft. I personally rewrite in a 2nd document and rename it accordingly so that I can compare both. | I always found that if I retyped the entire thing I discovered ways to improve it in almost every paragraph. If I just read it I didn't recognize most of these potential improvements. | 0 | 23,201 | 2 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1n9jyq | j1ob9w0 | 1,672,000,035 | 1,672,018,934 | 1 | 2 | Depends on how you write, honestly. My second draft is typically a content pass. This means going through and moving, adding, removing or changing core plot elements. I'm a pantser and I write without outlines so my first draft is usually a bit messy in that respect. | I always found that if I retyped the entire thing I discovered ways to improve it in almost every paragraph. If I just read it I didn't recognize most of these potential improvements. | 0 | 18,899 | 2 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1n5xg7 | j1ob9w0 | 1,671,998,341 | 1,672,018,934 | 0 | 2 | Some people who whole rewrites. I suspect it's more common to do big edits and revise/restructure after the first draft. | I always found that if I retyped the entire thing I discovered ways to improve it in almost every paragraph. If I just read it I didn't recognize most of these potential improvements. | 0 | 20,593 | 2,000 | ||
zv163s | writing_train | 0.78 | What does writing a second draft mean, exactly? Is this something most people do the same way, or is there, objectively a best way to go about it? My biggest question here is if you're supposed to start over completely after your first draft. Up until now I've just been editing my first drafts of short stories and maybe changing a paragraph here and there but nothing huge. What is you guys' method to writing second drafts? | j1ob9w0 | j1ncg34 | 1,672,018,934 | 1,672,001,384 | 2 | 0 | I always found that if I retyped the entire thing I discovered ways to improve it in almost every paragraph. If I just read it I didn't recognize most of these potential improvements. | I am using The Fantasy Fiction Formula which has a 10 phase editing process. I edit in layers because trying to fix everything is daunting. So draft 2 I just fixed any plot holes. Another draft I made sure all my locations were described well. Etc. | 1 | 17,550 | 2,000 |
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