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qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2boas | hl2gguo | 1,637,198,868 | 1,637,201,025 | 2 | 28 | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | In my experience, my professors always told me that if a student escalates beyond the 2nd or 3rd email that you just forward it to the professor. From my PI's own words, they usually don't pull this stuff with professors, only with TAs. | 0 | 2,157 | 14 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1wnzu | hl1xf5w | 1,637,192,005 | 1,637,192,340 | 19 | 22 | Everyone is cautioning you to not reply. I think that's probably the wrong move here. It's not "unprofessional" to issue a rebuke (even a sharp rebuke), as long as it's not ad hominem or abusive. Something like "Also, I'm not sure if you're aware, but the tone of this email was pretty rude, particularly given that the XYZ test you're adding doesn't make sense in the context of this data set. Please be more polite in future communications." If the student responds negatively to that, well, that's when you stop replying. | Oh, I just ignore them. They may think they will win the battle, but I will inevitably win the war. (Especially in statistics, because they never know what they are talking about.) Honestly, I find that being cheerfully nonchalant strikes the tone I want to convey and also irritates these types of students so deliciously. One thing I don't do, though, is get drawn into long back-and-forths with students. I am more than willing to admit when I've made a mistake and give students points, but when they're wrong and I know they're wrong...why am I going to argue with you? You're in this class because you *don't* know what you're doing. I will send them the resources; if they continue to try to argue, I will ignore them unless they are asking an actual question. | 0 | 335 | 1.157895 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1xf5w | hl1uq43 | 1,637,192,340 | 1,637,191,146 | 22 | 17 | Oh, I just ignore them. They may think they will win the battle, but I will inevitably win the war. (Especially in statistics, because they never know what they are talking about.) Honestly, I find that being cheerfully nonchalant strikes the tone I want to convey and also irritates these types of students so deliciously. One thing I don't do, though, is get drawn into long back-and-forths with students. I am more than willing to admit when I've made a mistake and give students points, but when they're wrong and I know they're wrong...why am I going to argue with you? You're in this class because you *don't* know what you're doing. I will send them the resources; if they continue to try to argue, I will ignore them unless they are asking an actual question. | Kill him with kindness, but at a certain point you just give him the tools and enough rope to hang from and leave it at that. He can choose what to do with the rope. You could, this time, dedicate a portion of class to reminding the students why we use the analyses we use for different situations. You could also ask if his major is stats. If it is. Good luck, I have met a few who dont understand that in many applied fields we have very noisy data and must do things to deal with that. The only thing I have to add is that, if you want to bring up him being rude to you via email as a learning opportunity you can phrase it to come from a place of concern. I.e.: "Hey is everything ok? The tone of your email came off like you were pretty stressed. You cant get any body language across, so it might help you to choose your words more carefully in that format. Otherwise people may think things are not OK." | 1 | 1,194 | 1.294118 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1xf5w | hl1lttv | 1,637,192,340 | 1,637,187,332 | 22 | 9 | Oh, I just ignore them. They may think they will win the battle, but I will inevitably win the war. (Especially in statistics, because they never know what they are talking about.) Honestly, I find that being cheerfully nonchalant strikes the tone I want to convey and also irritates these types of students so deliciously. One thing I don't do, though, is get drawn into long back-and-forths with students. I am more than willing to admit when I've made a mistake and give students points, but when they're wrong and I know they're wrong...why am I going to argue with you? You're in this class because you *don't* know what you're doing. I will send them the resources; if they continue to try to argue, I will ignore them unless they are asking an actual question. | I think the biggest mistake here is pressing the 'reply' button. I've had a student looking for a MSc project supervisor. He wad quite open about being very picky about it. I told him straight about his attitude and the reason he's in the uni. Never seen him again. | 1 | 5,008 | 2.444444 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1nfyp | hl1xf5w | 1,637,188,012 | 1,637,192,340 | 9 | 22 | Do you need to reply emails? I worked as a TA, I didn't contact any students out of office hours. If he had questions he should have asked during the class period. I wouldn't put so much effort onto that and I agree I would just grade their quizzes, assignments etc. Don't be too helpful, I get where you are coming from but that's so draining and they would take you as granted, some wouldnt even respect you because you're very available and friendly (sad but true) | Oh, I just ignore them. They may think they will win the battle, but I will inevitably win the war. (Especially in statistics, because they never know what they are talking about.) Honestly, I find that being cheerfully nonchalant strikes the tone I want to convey and also irritates these types of students so deliciously. One thing I don't do, though, is get drawn into long back-and-forths with students. I am more than willing to admit when I've made a mistake and give students points, but when they're wrong and I know they're wrong...why am I going to argue with you? You're in this class because you *don't* know what you're doing. I will send them the resources; if they continue to try to argue, I will ignore them unless they are asking an actual question. | 0 | 4,328 | 2.444444 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1xf5w | hl1rph4 | 1,637,192,340 | 1,637,189,834 | 22 | 9 | Oh, I just ignore them. They may think they will win the battle, but I will inevitably win the war. (Especially in statistics, because they never know what they are talking about.) Honestly, I find that being cheerfully nonchalant strikes the tone I want to convey and also irritates these types of students so deliciously. One thing I don't do, though, is get drawn into long back-and-forths with students. I am more than willing to admit when I've made a mistake and give students points, but when they're wrong and I know they're wrong...why am I going to argue with you? You're in this class because you *don't* know what you're doing. I will send them the resources; if they continue to try to argue, I will ignore them unless they are asking an actual question. | What a dummy that kid is. Ignore him, and mark him down (fairly and) accordingly. Sorry that you’re dealing with this, by the way. | 1 | 2,506 | 2.444444 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1xf5w | hl1vq1m | 1,637,192,340 | 1,637,191,588 | 22 | 7 | Oh, I just ignore them. They may think they will win the battle, but I will inevitably win the war. (Especially in statistics, because they never know what they are talking about.) Honestly, I find that being cheerfully nonchalant strikes the tone I want to convey and also irritates these types of students so deliciously. One thing I don't do, though, is get drawn into long back-and-forths with students. I am more than willing to admit when I've made a mistake and give students points, but when they're wrong and I know they're wrong...why am I going to argue with you? You're in this class because you *don't* know what you're doing. I will send them the resources; if they continue to try to argue, I will ignore them unless they are asking an actual question. | Oof. I’ve had to deal with so many students like that (& the numbers seem to be increasing over the years). My situation is slightly different cause I’m hired externally as a part time lecturer but I’d say the same steps can apply. Normally, I wouldn’t engage in email ping pong but keep my answers brief, firm, & to the point (making it clear they are wrong & backing up where I’m right) then stop responding when they start being rude/ condescending. I’d also let my higher up (in your case, the professor in charge of the class) know of the details (students behaviour, my response, etc) so in case the student appeals when they (predictably) score poorly, then they can back me up. Oh, and during marking I make it VERY VERY clear why they’re wrong & use almost the exact same words I use in the email. | 1 | 752 | 3.142857 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1wyt4 | hl1xf5w | 1,637,192,137 | 1,637,192,340 | 6 | 22 | I've always believed that back and forth through email does come across rude. Its always to "clear the air" in person. I've found that people are less rude while talking in-person. | Oh, I just ignore them. They may think they will win the battle, but I will inevitably win the war. (Especially in statistics, because they never know what they are talking about.) Honestly, I find that being cheerfully nonchalant strikes the tone I want to convey and also irritates these types of students so deliciously. One thing I don't do, though, is get drawn into long back-and-forths with students. I am more than willing to admit when I've made a mistake and give students points, but when they're wrong and I know they're wrong...why am I going to argue with you? You're in this class because you *don't* know what you're doing. I will send them the resources; if they continue to try to argue, I will ignore them unless they are asking an actual question. | 0 | 203 | 3.666667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1wnzu | hl1uq43 | 1,637,192,005 | 1,637,191,146 | 19 | 17 | Everyone is cautioning you to not reply. I think that's probably the wrong move here. It's not "unprofessional" to issue a rebuke (even a sharp rebuke), as long as it's not ad hominem or abusive. Something like "Also, I'm not sure if you're aware, but the tone of this email was pretty rude, particularly given that the XYZ test you're adding doesn't make sense in the context of this data set. Please be more polite in future communications." If the student responds negatively to that, well, that's when you stop replying. | Kill him with kindness, but at a certain point you just give him the tools and enough rope to hang from and leave it at that. He can choose what to do with the rope. You could, this time, dedicate a portion of class to reminding the students why we use the analyses we use for different situations. You could also ask if his major is stats. If it is. Good luck, I have met a few who dont understand that in many applied fields we have very noisy data and must do things to deal with that. The only thing I have to add is that, if you want to bring up him being rude to you via email as a learning opportunity you can phrase it to come from a place of concern. I.e.: "Hey is everything ok? The tone of your email came off like you were pretty stressed. You cant get any body language across, so it might help you to choose your words more carefully in that format. Otherwise people may think things are not OK." | 1 | 859 | 1.117647 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1lttv | hl1wnzu | 1,637,187,332 | 1,637,192,005 | 9 | 19 | I think the biggest mistake here is pressing the 'reply' button. I've had a student looking for a MSc project supervisor. He wad quite open about being very picky about it. I told him straight about his attitude and the reason he's in the uni. Never seen him again. | Everyone is cautioning you to not reply. I think that's probably the wrong move here. It's not "unprofessional" to issue a rebuke (even a sharp rebuke), as long as it's not ad hominem or abusive. Something like "Also, I'm not sure if you're aware, but the tone of this email was pretty rude, particularly given that the XYZ test you're adding doesn't make sense in the context of this data set. Please be more polite in future communications." If the student responds negatively to that, well, that's when you stop replying. | 0 | 4,673 | 2.111111 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1nfyp | hl1wnzu | 1,637,188,012 | 1,637,192,005 | 9 | 19 | Do you need to reply emails? I worked as a TA, I didn't contact any students out of office hours. If he had questions he should have asked during the class period. I wouldn't put so much effort onto that and I agree I would just grade their quizzes, assignments etc. Don't be too helpful, I get where you are coming from but that's so draining and they would take you as granted, some wouldnt even respect you because you're very available and friendly (sad but true) | Everyone is cautioning you to not reply. I think that's probably the wrong move here. It's not "unprofessional" to issue a rebuke (even a sharp rebuke), as long as it's not ad hominem or abusive. Something like "Also, I'm not sure if you're aware, but the tone of this email was pretty rude, particularly given that the XYZ test you're adding doesn't make sense in the context of this data set. Please be more polite in future communications." If the student responds negatively to that, well, that's when you stop replying. | 0 | 3,993 | 2.111111 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1wnzu | hl1rph4 | 1,637,192,005 | 1,637,189,834 | 19 | 9 | Everyone is cautioning you to not reply. I think that's probably the wrong move here. It's not "unprofessional" to issue a rebuke (even a sharp rebuke), as long as it's not ad hominem or abusive. Something like "Also, I'm not sure if you're aware, but the tone of this email was pretty rude, particularly given that the XYZ test you're adding doesn't make sense in the context of this data set. Please be more polite in future communications." If the student responds negatively to that, well, that's when you stop replying. | What a dummy that kid is. Ignore him, and mark him down (fairly and) accordingly. Sorry that you’re dealing with this, by the way. | 1 | 2,171 | 2.111111 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1wnzu | hl1vq1m | 1,637,192,005 | 1,637,191,588 | 19 | 7 | Everyone is cautioning you to not reply. I think that's probably the wrong move here. It's not "unprofessional" to issue a rebuke (even a sharp rebuke), as long as it's not ad hominem or abusive. Something like "Also, I'm not sure if you're aware, but the tone of this email was pretty rude, particularly given that the XYZ test you're adding doesn't make sense in the context of this data set. Please be more polite in future communications." If the student responds negatively to that, well, that's when you stop replying. | Oof. I’ve had to deal with so many students like that (& the numbers seem to be increasing over the years). My situation is slightly different cause I’m hired externally as a part time lecturer but I’d say the same steps can apply. Normally, I wouldn’t engage in email ping pong but keep my answers brief, firm, & to the point (making it clear they are wrong & backing up where I’m right) then stop responding when they start being rude/ condescending. I’d also let my higher up (in your case, the professor in charge of the class) know of the details (students behaviour, my response, etc) so in case the student appeals when they (predictably) score poorly, then they can back me up. Oh, and during marking I make it VERY VERY clear why they’re wrong & use almost the exact same words I use in the email. | 1 | 417 | 2.714286 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1lttv | hl1uq43 | 1,637,187,332 | 1,637,191,146 | 9 | 17 | I think the biggest mistake here is pressing the 'reply' button. I've had a student looking for a MSc project supervisor. He wad quite open about being very picky about it. I told him straight about his attitude and the reason he's in the uni. Never seen him again. | Kill him with kindness, but at a certain point you just give him the tools and enough rope to hang from and leave it at that. He can choose what to do with the rope. You could, this time, dedicate a portion of class to reminding the students why we use the analyses we use for different situations. You could also ask if his major is stats. If it is. Good luck, I have met a few who dont understand that in many applied fields we have very noisy data and must do things to deal with that. The only thing I have to add is that, if you want to bring up him being rude to you via email as a learning opportunity you can phrase it to come from a place of concern. I.e.: "Hey is everything ok? The tone of your email came off like you were pretty stressed. You cant get any body language across, so it might help you to choose your words more carefully in that format. Otherwise people may think things are not OK." | 0 | 3,814 | 1.888889 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1nfyp | hl1uq43 | 1,637,188,012 | 1,637,191,146 | 9 | 17 | Do you need to reply emails? I worked as a TA, I didn't contact any students out of office hours. If he had questions he should have asked during the class period. I wouldn't put so much effort onto that and I agree I would just grade their quizzes, assignments etc. Don't be too helpful, I get where you are coming from but that's so draining and they would take you as granted, some wouldnt even respect you because you're very available and friendly (sad but true) | Kill him with kindness, but at a certain point you just give him the tools and enough rope to hang from and leave it at that. He can choose what to do with the rope. You could, this time, dedicate a portion of class to reminding the students why we use the analyses we use for different situations. You could also ask if his major is stats. If it is. Good luck, I have met a few who dont understand that in many applied fields we have very noisy data and must do things to deal with that. The only thing I have to add is that, if you want to bring up him being rude to you via email as a learning opportunity you can phrase it to come from a place of concern. I.e.: "Hey is everything ok? The tone of your email came off like you were pretty stressed. You cant get any body language across, so it might help you to choose your words more carefully in that format. Otherwise people may think things are not OK." | 0 | 3,134 | 1.888889 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1uq43 | hl1rph4 | 1,637,191,146 | 1,637,189,834 | 17 | 9 | Kill him with kindness, but at a certain point you just give him the tools and enough rope to hang from and leave it at that. He can choose what to do with the rope. You could, this time, dedicate a portion of class to reminding the students why we use the analyses we use for different situations. You could also ask if his major is stats. If it is. Good luck, I have met a few who dont understand that in many applied fields we have very noisy data and must do things to deal with that. The only thing I have to add is that, if you want to bring up him being rude to you via email as a learning opportunity you can phrase it to come from a place of concern. I.e.: "Hey is everything ok? The tone of your email came off like you were pretty stressed. You cant get any body language across, so it might help you to choose your words more carefully in that format. Otherwise people may think things are not OK." | What a dummy that kid is. Ignore him, and mark him down (fairly and) accordingly. Sorry that you’re dealing with this, by the way. | 1 | 1,312 | 1.888889 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2k5dc | hl1lttv | 1,637,202,674 | 1,637,187,332 | 13 | 9 | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | I think the biggest mistake here is pressing the 'reply' button. I've had a student looking for a MSc project supervisor. He wad quite open about being very picky about it. I told him straight about his attitude and the reason he's in the uni. Never seen him again. | 1 | 15,342 | 1.444444 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2k5dc | hl1nfyp | 1,637,202,674 | 1,637,188,012 | 13 | 9 | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | Do you need to reply emails? I worked as a TA, I didn't contact any students out of office hours. If he had questions he should have asked during the class period. I wouldn't put so much effort onto that and I agree I would just grade their quizzes, assignments etc. Don't be too helpful, I get where you are coming from but that's so draining and they would take you as granted, some wouldnt even respect you because you're very available and friendly (sad but true) | 1 | 14,662 | 1.444444 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1rph4 | hl2k5dc | 1,637,189,834 | 1,637,202,674 | 9 | 13 | What a dummy that kid is. Ignore him, and mark him down (fairly and) accordingly. Sorry that you’re dealing with this, by the way. | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | 0 | 12,840 | 1.444444 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1vq1m | hl2k5dc | 1,637,191,588 | 1,637,202,674 | 7 | 13 | Oof. I’ve had to deal with so many students like that (& the numbers seem to be increasing over the years). My situation is slightly different cause I’m hired externally as a part time lecturer but I’d say the same steps can apply. Normally, I wouldn’t engage in email ping pong but keep my answers brief, firm, & to the point (making it clear they are wrong & backing up where I’m right) then stop responding when they start being rude/ condescending. I’d also let my higher up (in your case, the professor in charge of the class) know of the details (students behaviour, my response, etc) so in case the student appeals when they (predictably) score poorly, then they can back me up. Oh, and during marking I make it VERY VERY clear why they’re wrong & use almost the exact same words I use in the email. | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | 0 | 11,086 | 1.857143 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2k5dc | hl1wyt4 | 1,637,202,674 | 1,637,192,137 | 13 | 6 | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | I've always believed that back and forth through email does come across rude. Its always to "clear the air" in person. I've found that people are less rude while talking in-person. | 1 | 10,537 | 2.166667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24x4c | hl2k5dc | 1,637,195,775 | 1,637,202,674 | 6 | 13 | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | 0 | 6,899 | 2.166667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2k5dc | hl2h6h0 | 1,637,202,674 | 1,637,201,345 | 13 | 7 | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | 1 | 1,329 | 1.857143 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1xxdg | hl2k5dc | 1,637,192,565 | 1,637,202,674 | 5 | 13 | Don't do anything special to or for the student. Talk to your supervisor/the instructor/your mentor/whomever is supposed to be in charge of you as a TA. | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | 0 | 10,109 | 2.6 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl21q6z | hl2k5dc | 1,637,194,298 | 1,637,202,674 | 3 | 13 | I think the work as teacher is guide your students to the knoweldge, you can help them with someproblems, but if your students don't try to learn something and don't listen you, you must not keeping help them. I think you should give up whit him and use his emaik as evidence. | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | 0 | 8,376 | 4.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2k5dc | hl24poo | 1,637,202,674 | 1,637,195,681 | 13 | 3 | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | Hello ! This post just appeared in my feed for whatever mysterious reason. I am curious to know what is a TA. Anybody could explain ? Thanks in advance ! | 1 | 6,993 | 4.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2k5dc | hl2boas | 1,637,202,674 | 1,637,198,868 | 13 | 2 | >TA dealing with a condescending student Save those e-mail exchanges. Grade him according to what he's supposed to be learning. | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | 1 | 3,806 | 6.5 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl3dxjt | hl1vq1m | 1,637,219,195 | 1,637,191,588 | 8 | 7 | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | Oof. I’ve had to deal with so many students like that (& the numbers seem to be increasing over the years). My situation is slightly different cause I’m hired externally as a part time lecturer but I’d say the same steps can apply. Normally, I wouldn’t engage in email ping pong but keep my answers brief, firm, & to the point (making it clear they are wrong & backing up where I’m right) then stop responding when they start being rude/ condescending. I’d also let my higher up (in your case, the professor in charge of the class) know of the details (students behaviour, my response, etc) so in case the student appeals when they (predictably) score poorly, then they can back me up. Oh, and during marking I make it VERY VERY clear why they’re wrong & use almost the exact same words I use in the email. | 1 | 27,607 | 1.142857 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl3dxjt | hl1wyt4 | 1,637,219,195 | 1,637,192,137 | 8 | 6 | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | I've always believed that back and forth through email does come across rude. Its always to "clear the air" in person. I've found that people are less rude while talking in-person. | 1 | 27,058 | 1.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24x4c | hl3dxjt | 1,637,195,775 | 1,637,219,195 | 6 | 8 | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | 0 | 23,420 | 1.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2lphu | hl3dxjt | 1,637,203,401 | 1,637,219,195 | 7 | 8 | I have had a couple of students like that. I probably didn't deal with this the most constructively, but I used to cc the unit coordinator or another colleague in (sometimes male) to "confirm their ideas". The colleagues would confirm that I was correct, and I have even had students apologise to me afterwards. I also get someone else to mark the work if possible or get it cross checked. It is not really worth engaging with these students to argue. I have done that in the past and it has lead to further emails that are nastier, and even being threatened/stalked. | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | 0 | 15,794 | 1.142857 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2qqu8 | hl3dxjt | 1,637,205,739 | 1,637,219,195 | 7 | 8 | Just fail him. Why bother even talking so much to a student? | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | 0 | 13,456 | 1.142857 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl3dxjt | hl2h6h0 | 1,637,219,195 | 1,637,201,345 | 8 | 7 | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | 1 | 17,850 | 1.142857 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl3dxjt | hl1xxdg | 1,637,219,195 | 1,637,192,565 | 8 | 5 | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | Don't do anything special to or for the student. Talk to your supervisor/the instructor/your mentor/whomever is supposed to be in charge of you as a TA. | 1 | 26,630 | 1.6 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl3dxjt | hl2ksy0 | 1,637,219,195 | 1,637,202,971 | 8 | 3 | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | Can’t wait for him to get his terrible grade. Make sure you alert the professor in advance | 1 | 16,224 | 2.666667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl3dxjt | hl2vmje | 1,637,219,195 | 1,637,208,139 | 8 | 4 | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | You're the expert. You explained. He's the student. He chose not to listen. It's his money. Let him waste it if he wants. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. That said, I generally just ignore such students. After it becomes evident that they're willing to paint themselves into a corner trying to have to last word, my response time gets exponentially slower with each exchange until my reply won't reach them before the end of the semester. | 1 | 11,056 | 2 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl3dxjt | hl21q6z | 1,637,219,195 | 1,637,194,298 | 8 | 3 | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | I think the work as teacher is guide your students to the knoweldge, you can help them with someproblems, but if your students don't try to learn something and don't listen you, you must not keeping help them. I think you should give up whit him and use his emaik as evidence. | 1 | 24,897 | 2.666667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl3dxjt | hl24poo | 1,637,219,195 | 1,637,195,681 | 8 | 3 | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | Hello ! This post just appeared in my feed for whatever mysterious reason. I am curious to know what is a TA. Anybody could explain ? Thanks in advance ! | 1 | 23,514 | 2.666667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2boas | hl3dxjt | 1,637,198,868 | 1,637,219,195 | 2 | 8 | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | I (F28) have only had that that kind of thing happen once like 5 years ago and it was super shitty. If I had that happen today with a student I think I would tell them they can ask the professor if they like. It might be that he doesn’t want to hear it, might be that he just doesn’t want to hear it from you. either way he will lose credit if he’s wrong | 0 | 20,327 | 4 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2l9db | hl1vq1m | 1,637,203,198 | 1,637,191,588 | 8 | 7 | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | Oof. I’ve had to deal with so many students like that (& the numbers seem to be increasing over the years). My situation is slightly different cause I’m hired externally as a part time lecturer but I’d say the same steps can apply. Normally, I wouldn’t engage in email ping pong but keep my answers brief, firm, & to the point (making it clear they are wrong & backing up where I’m right) then stop responding when they start being rude/ condescending. I’d also let my higher up (in your case, the professor in charge of the class) know of the details (students behaviour, my response, etc) so in case the student appeals when they (predictably) score poorly, then they can back me up. Oh, and during marking I make it VERY VERY clear why they’re wrong & use almost the exact same words I use in the email. | 1 | 11,610 | 1.142857 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1wyt4 | hl2l9db | 1,637,192,137 | 1,637,203,198 | 6 | 8 | I've always believed that back and forth through email does come across rude. Its always to "clear the air" in person. I've found that people are less rude while talking in-person. | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | 0 | 11,061 | 1.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24x4c | hl2l9db | 1,637,195,775 | 1,637,203,198 | 6 | 8 | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | 0 | 7,423 | 1.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2h6h0 | hl2l9db | 1,637,201,345 | 1,637,203,198 | 7 | 8 | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | 0 | 1,853 | 1.142857 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2l9db | hl1xxdg | 1,637,203,198 | 1,637,192,565 | 8 | 5 | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | Don't do anything special to or for the student. Talk to your supervisor/the instructor/your mentor/whomever is supposed to be in charge of you as a TA. | 1 | 10,633 | 1.6 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2ksy0 | hl2l9db | 1,637,202,971 | 1,637,203,198 | 3 | 8 | Can’t wait for him to get his terrible grade. Make sure you alert the professor in advance | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | 0 | 227 | 2.666667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl21q6z | hl2l9db | 1,637,194,298 | 1,637,203,198 | 3 | 8 | I think the work as teacher is guide your students to the knoweldge, you can help them with someproblems, but if your students don't try to learn something and don't listen you, you must not keeping help them. I think you should give up whit him and use his emaik as evidence. | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | 0 | 8,900 | 2.666667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24poo | hl2l9db | 1,637,195,681 | 1,637,203,198 | 3 | 8 | Hello ! This post just appeared in my feed for whatever mysterious reason. I am curious to know what is a TA. Anybody could explain ? Thanks in advance ! | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | 0 | 7,517 | 2.666667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2l9db | hl2boas | 1,637,203,198 | 1,637,198,868 | 8 | 2 | Sorry to hear about this experience. Like a lot of respondents I've been there... unfortunately in my experience universities aren't great with dealing with bullying of staff by students, but I still think it's worth letting your department head know (or someone above them if they're not trustworthy) so there's at least a record in case the students behaviour doesn't improve. Maybe also start one of your classes with a little chat about what sorts of behaviours are in/appropriate? I had to do that once because (absurdly) a student apparently complained about me wearing flip flops to class. I know that seems trite and I hope it doesn't come across as a belittling example. Anyway in that case the class took it well and I didn't have any further problems with them. A silly case I know, but there just a little "I'm actually at work, not talking sh*t in the pub" helped. Hopefully things improve for you soon. | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | 1 | 4,330 | 4 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2lphu | hl1wyt4 | 1,637,203,401 | 1,637,192,137 | 7 | 6 | I have had a couple of students like that. I probably didn't deal with this the most constructively, but I used to cc the unit coordinator or another colleague in (sometimes male) to "confirm their ideas". The colleagues would confirm that I was correct, and I have even had students apologise to me afterwards. I also get someone else to mark the work if possible or get it cross checked. It is not really worth engaging with these students to argue. I have done that in the past and it has lead to further emails that are nastier, and even being threatened/stalked. | I've always believed that back and forth through email does come across rude. Its always to "clear the air" in person. I've found that people are less rude while talking in-person. | 1 | 11,264 | 1.166667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1wyt4 | hl2qqu8 | 1,637,192,137 | 1,637,205,739 | 6 | 7 | I've always believed that back and forth through email does come across rude. Its always to "clear the air" in person. I've found that people are less rude while talking in-person. | Just fail him. Why bother even talking so much to a student? | 0 | 13,602 | 1.166667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1wyt4 | hl2h6h0 | 1,637,192,137 | 1,637,201,345 | 6 | 7 | I've always believed that back and forth through email does come across rude. Its always to "clear the air" in person. I've found that people are less rude while talking in-person. | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | 0 | 9,208 | 1.166667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2lphu | hl24x4c | 1,637,203,401 | 1,637,195,775 | 7 | 6 | I have had a couple of students like that. I probably didn't deal with this the most constructively, but I used to cc the unit coordinator or another colleague in (sometimes male) to "confirm their ideas". The colleagues would confirm that I was correct, and I have even had students apologise to me afterwards. I also get someone else to mark the work if possible or get it cross checked. It is not really worth engaging with these students to argue. I have done that in the past and it has lead to further emails that are nastier, and even being threatened/stalked. | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | 1 | 7,626 | 1.166667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24x4c | hl2qqu8 | 1,637,195,775 | 1,637,205,739 | 6 | 7 | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | Just fail him. Why bother even talking so much to a student? | 0 | 9,964 | 1.166667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2h6h0 | hl24x4c | 1,637,201,345 | 1,637,195,775 | 7 | 6 | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | 1 | 5,570 | 1.166667 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24x4c | hl1xxdg | 1,637,195,775 | 1,637,192,565 | 6 | 5 | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | Don't do anything special to or for the student. Talk to your supervisor/the instructor/your mentor/whomever is supposed to be in charge of you as a TA. | 1 | 3,210 | 1.2 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24x4c | hl21q6z | 1,637,195,775 | 1,637,194,298 | 6 | 3 | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | I think the work as teacher is guide your students to the knoweldge, you can help them with someproblems, but if your students don't try to learn something and don't listen you, you must not keeping help them. I think you should give up whit him and use his emaik as evidence. | 1 | 1,477 | 2 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24x4c | hl24poo | 1,637,195,775 | 1,637,195,681 | 6 | 3 | Just grade him appropriately if he gets the wrong answer he fails and that's it. Bak in my undergrad I remember a student trying to correct the proffessor constantly despite the guy being fully and utterly wrong. The proffessor one day walked out for 5 minutes, walked back in and kept the lecture pretty much ignoring the guy for the rest of it. I thought that was a fairly decent way to prevent ripping the idiot in front of the class. | Hello ! This post just appeared in my feed for whatever mysterious reason. I am curious to know what is a TA. Anybody could explain ? Thanks in advance ! | 1 | 94 | 2 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2lphu | hl1xxdg | 1,637,203,401 | 1,637,192,565 | 7 | 5 | I have had a couple of students like that. I probably didn't deal with this the most constructively, but I used to cc the unit coordinator or another colleague in (sometimes male) to "confirm their ideas". The colleagues would confirm that I was correct, and I have even had students apologise to me afterwards. I also get someone else to mark the work if possible or get it cross checked. It is not really worth engaging with these students to argue. I have done that in the past and it has lead to further emails that are nastier, and even being threatened/stalked. | Don't do anything special to or for the student. Talk to your supervisor/the instructor/your mentor/whomever is supposed to be in charge of you as a TA. | 1 | 10,836 | 1.4 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2lphu | hl2ksy0 | 1,637,203,401 | 1,637,202,971 | 7 | 3 | I have had a couple of students like that. I probably didn't deal with this the most constructively, but I used to cc the unit coordinator or another colleague in (sometimes male) to "confirm their ideas". The colleagues would confirm that I was correct, and I have even had students apologise to me afterwards. I also get someone else to mark the work if possible or get it cross checked. It is not really worth engaging with these students to argue. I have done that in the past and it has lead to further emails that are nastier, and even being threatened/stalked. | Can’t wait for him to get his terrible grade. Make sure you alert the professor in advance | 1 | 430 | 2.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl21q6z | hl2lphu | 1,637,194,298 | 1,637,203,401 | 3 | 7 | I think the work as teacher is guide your students to the knoweldge, you can help them with someproblems, but if your students don't try to learn something and don't listen you, you must not keeping help them. I think you should give up whit him and use his emaik as evidence. | I have had a couple of students like that. I probably didn't deal with this the most constructively, but I used to cc the unit coordinator or another colleague in (sometimes male) to "confirm their ideas". The colleagues would confirm that I was correct, and I have even had students apologise to me afterwards. I also get someone else to mark the work if possible or get it cross checked. It is not really worth engaging with these students to argue. I have done that in the past and it has lead to further emails that are nastier, and even being threatened/stalked. | 0 | 9,103 | 2.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl24poo | hl2lphu | 1,637,195,681 | 1,637,203,401 | 3 | 7 | Hello ! This post just appeared in my feed for whatever mysterious reason. I am curious to know what is a TA. Anybody could explain ? Thanks in advance ! | I have had a couple of students like that. I probably didn't deal with this the most constructively, but I used to cc the unit coordinator or another colleague in (sometimes male) to "confirm their ideas". The colleagues would confirm that I was correct, and I have even had students apologise to me afterwards. I also get someone else to mark the work if possible or get it cross checked. It is not really worth engaging with these students to argue. I have done that in the past and it has lead to further emails that are nastier, and even being threatened/stalked. | 0 | 7,720 | 2.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2boas | hl2lphu | 1,637,198,868 | 1,637,203,401 | 2 | 7 | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | I have had a couple of students like that. I probably didn't deal with this the most constructively, but I used to cc the unit coordinator or another colleague in (sometimes male) to "confirm their ideas". The colleagues would confirm that I was correct, and I have even had students apologise to me afterwards. I also get someone else to mark the work if possible or get it cross checked. It is not really worth engaging with these students to argue. I have done that in the past and it has lead to further emails that are nastier, and even being threatened/stalked. | 0 | 4,533 | 3.5 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1xxdg | hl2qqu8 | 1,637,192,565 | 1,637,205,739 | 5 | 7 | Don't do anything special to or for the student. Talk to your supervisor/the instructor/your mentor/whomever is supposed to be in charge of you as a TA. | Just fail him. Why bother even talking so much to a student? | 0 | 13,174 | 1.4 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2ksy0 | hl2qqu8 | 1,637,202,971 | 1,637,205,739 | 3 | 7 | Can’t wait for him to get his terrible grade. Make sure you alert the professor in advance | Just fail him. Why bother even talking so much to a student? | 0 | 2,768 | 2.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl21q6z | hl2qqu8 | 1,637,194,298 | 1,637,205,739 | 3 | 7 | I think the work as teacher is guide your students to the knoweldge, you can help them with someproblems, but if your students don't try to learn something and don't listen you, you must not keeping help them. I think you should give up whit him and use his emaik as evidence. | Just fail him. Why bother even talking so much to a student? | 0 | 11,441 | 2.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2qqu8 | hl24poo | 1,637,205,739 | 1,637,195,681 | 7 | 3 | Just fail him. Why bother even talking so much to a student? | Hello ! This post just appeared in my feed for whatever mysterious reason. I am curious to know what is a TA. Anybody could explain ? Thanks in advance ! | 1 | 10,058 | 2.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2boas | hl2qqu8 | 1,637,198,868 | 1,637,205,739 | 2 | 7 | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | Just fail him. Why bother even talking so much to a student? | 0 | 6,871 | 3.5 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl1xxdg | hl2h6h0 | 1,637,192,565 | 1,637,201,345 | 5 | 7 | Don't do anything special to or for the student. Talk to your supervisor/the instructor/your mentor/whomever is supposed to be in charge of you as a TA. | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | 0 | 8,780 | 1.4 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl21q6z | hl2h6h0 | 1,637,194,298 | 1,637,201,345 | 3 | 7 | I think the work as teacher is guide your students to the knoweldge, you can help them with someproblems, but if your students don't try to learn something and don't listen you, you must not keeping help them. I think you should give up whit him and use his emaik as evidence. | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | 0 | 7,047 | 2.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2h6h0 | hl24poo | 1,637,201,345 | 1,637,195,681 | 7 | 3 | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | Hello ! This post just appeared in my feed for whatever mysterious reason. I am curious to know what is a TA. Anybody could explain ? Thanks in advance ! | 1 | 5,664 | 2.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2boas | hl2h6h0 | 1,637,198,868 | 1,637,201,345 | 2 | 7 | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | Maybe CC the professor in your next communication. And email the professor ahead of time too. I think it would be a good idea to be professional, maybe if he continues it might be a good idea to point out his rudeness. It’s up to you. Do what feels best for the situation. Dude just sounds like an entitled prick. | 0 | 2,477 | 3.5 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2vmje | hl2ksy0 | 1,637,208,139 | 1,637,202,971 | 4 | 3 | You're the expert. You explained. He's the student. He chose not to listen. It's his money. Let him waste it if he wants. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. That said, I generally just ignore such students. After it becomes evident that they're willing to paint themselves into a corner trying to have to last word, my response time gets exponentially slower with each exchange until my reply won't reach them before the end of the semester. | Can’t wait for him to get his terrible grade. Make sure you alert the professor in advance | 1 | 5,168 | 1.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2ksy0 | hl2boas | 1,637,202,971 | 1,637,198,868 | 3 | 2 | Can’t wait for him to get his terrible grade. Make sure you alert the professor in advance | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | 1 | 4,103 | 1.5 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2vmje | hl21q6z | 1,637,208,139 | 1,637,194,298 | 4 | 3 | You're the expert. You explained. He's the student. He chose not to listen. It's his money. Let him waste it if he wants. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. That said, I generally just ignore such students. After it becomes evident that they're willing to paint themselves into a corner trying to have to last word, my response time gets exponentially slower with each exchange until my reply won't reach them before the end of the semester. | I think the work as teacher is guide your students to the knoweldge, you can help them with someproblems, but if your students don't try to learn something and don't listen you, you must not keeping help them. I think you should give up whit him and use his emaik as evidence. | 1 | 13,841 | 1.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2vmje | hl24poo | 1,637,208,139 | 1,637,195,681 | 4 | 3 | You're the expert. You explained. He's the student. He chose not to listen. It's his money. Let him waste it if he wants. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. That said, I generally just ignore such students. After it becomes evident that they're willing to paint themselves into a corner trying to have to last word, my response time gets exponentially slower with each exchange until my reply won't reach them before the end of the semester. | Hello ! This post just appeared in my feed for whatever mysterious reason. I am curious to know what is a TA. Anybody could explain ? Thanks in advance ! | 1 | 12,458 | 1.333333 |
qw9xrs | askacademia_train | 0.98 | TA dealing with a condescending student Hi all, Have any of you had to deal with a condescending student? How did you deal with it (or did you?)? I (30F) have a student (19M) this semester who emails me frequently with questions that have always seemed to insinuate that I didn't know what I was talking about. But I assumed I was being oversensitive or paranoid, so I have always answered him promptly and cheerfully. However, today, the student got in a long back and forth with me (over email) about a basic statistical analysis in which he is FULLY incorrect, but has continued doubling down no matter what I say (or how many resources I send him). Finally he wrote back something along the lines of "fine I still think it means xyz but I guess I just won't include how we got our results." To be clear, he literally added a new statistical test that is not part of the assignment, and makes no sense with the data. The last email especially was honestly very rude, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm leaning towards just leaving it alone, since he apparently cares so much about having the last word, but I'm worried about grading his final paper if he continues to double down on this. Has anyone else encountered something like this, and what did you do? | hl2vmje | hl2boas | 1,637,208,139 | 1,637,198,868 | 4 | 2 | You're the expert. You explained. He's the student. He chose not to listen. It's his money. Let him waste it if he wants. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. That said, I generally just ignore such students. After it becomes evident that they're willing to paint themselves into a corner trying to have to last word, my response time gets exponentially slower with each exchange until my reply won't reach them before the end of the semester. | As a TA, your are there to support students and if they fail to respect you, the conversation ends. If you have illustrated the correct answer/approach and they believe you are wrong, they have two options: proceed as if you are wrong or take it to the professor. If a student came to me and said “my answer is right and the TA is wrong, I would listen to the student, ascertain they were wrong, and the have the, explain their answer to me and the TA. Then I would proceed to illustrate the correct answer all the while noting ‘as the TA told you’. If a student was disrespectful, then they would be speaking to me. It is was sufficient serious, it would be in writing copied to the chair and dean. Universities are places of work and disagreement is fine, disrespectful conduct is not. In short, you have done your job, don’t engage further, their choices have consequences. | 1 | 9,271 | 2 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hk3p1 | h4hjxxw | 1,625,760,648 | 1,625,760,579 | 541 | 203 | I bought a copy of my thesis and a frame for my diploma. It was a two panel frame. I was going to put my undergraduate diploma in one and doctorate in the other, but then my dog graduated obedience school so I put her certificate by my doctorate. I want her to know I'm proud of her. | I buy myself a small gift after every milestone. Often it’s affordable jewelry that I can then wear when I’m feeling like an imposter. It’s like armor, reminding me of my successes. After I defended my PhD I did a long road trip to celebrate. I have no regrets and many amazing memories from that trip. | 1 | 69 | 2.665025 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hk3p1 | h4hdyou | 1,625,760,648 | 1,625,757,963 | 541 | 85 | I bought a copy of my thesis and a frame for my diploma. It was a two panel frame. I was going to put my undergraduate diploma in one and doctorate in the other, but then my dog graduated obedience school so I put her certificate by my doctorate. I want her to know I'm proud of her. | "I'm going to buy a nice mechanical watch" That was four years ago, still haven't gotten around to it. | 1 | 2,685 | 6.364706 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hk2xj | h4hk3p1 | 1,625,760,639 | 1,625,760,648 | 48 | 541 | My husband bought me the full set of Roald Dahl children's books when I completed. Love them. | I bought a copy of my thesis and a frame for my diploma. It was a two panel frame. I was going to put my undergraduate diploma in one and doctorate in the other, but then my dog graduated obedience school so I put her certificate by my doctorate. I want her to know I'm proud of her. | 0 | 9 | 11.270833 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hd3du | h4hk3p1 | 1,625,757,574 | 1,625,760,648 | 41 | 541 | My partner is entering his PhD this year. Some ideas I have for him: quality leather satchel/laptop bag (will last forever), shadow box containing his graduation regalia and degree, bound copy of thesis, etc. The leather bag is probably the best “gift to self” idea on the list because you can use it daily in your work and it will only become better with use. | I bought a copy of my thesis and a frame for my diploma. It was a two panel frame. I was going to put my undergraduate diploma in one and doctorate in the other, but then my dog graduated obedience school so I put her certificate by my doctorate. I want her to know I'm proud of her. | 0 | 3,074 | 13.195122 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hj9i8 | h4hk3p1 | 1,625,760,286 | 1,625,760,648 | 26 | 541 | I won't defend until next summer, but I plan on getting myself a tattoo. | I bought a copy of my thesis and a frame for my diploma. It was a two panel frame. I was going to put my undergraduate diploma in one and doctorate in the other, but then my dog graduated obedience school so I put her certificate by my doctorate. I want her to know I'm proud of her. | 0 | 362 | 20.807692 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hjxxw | h4hdyou | 1,625,760,579 | 1,625,757,963 | 203 | 85 | I buy myself a small gift after every milestone. Often it’s affordable jewelry that I can then wear when I’m feeling like an imposter. It’s like armor, reminding me of my successes. After I defended my PhD I did a long road trip to celebrate. I have no regrets and many amazing memories from that trip. | "I'm going to buy a nice mechanical watch" That was four years ago, still haven't gotten around to it. | 1 | 2,616 | 2.388235 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hd3du | h4hjxxw | 1,625,757,574 | 1,625,760,579 | 41 | 203 | My partner is entering his PhD this year. Some ideas I have for him: quality leather satchel/laptop bag (will last forever), shadow box containing his graduation regalia and degree, bound copy of thesis, etc. The leather bag is probably the best “gift to self” idea on the list because you can use it daily in your work and it will only become better with use. | I buy myself a small gift after every milestone. Often it’s affordable jewelry that I can then wear when I’m feeling like an imposter. It’s like armor, reminding me of my successes. After I defended my PhD I did a long road trip to celebrate. I have no regrets and many amazing memories from that trip. | 0 | 3,005 | 4.95122 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hjxxw | h4hj9i8 | 1,625,760,579 | 1,625,760,286 | 203 | 26 | I buy myself a small gift after every milestone. Often it’s affordable jewelry that I can then wear when I’m feeling like an imposter. It’s like armor, reminding me of my successes. After I defended my PhD I did a long road trip to celebrate. I have no regrets and many amazing memories from that trip. | I won't defend until next summer, but I plan on getting myself a tattoo. | 1 | 293 | 7.807692 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i57je | h4i6n6a | 1,625,769,843 | 1,625,770,468 | 112 | 151 | I bought chicken nuggets, french fries, and a diet coke, and took the best 2 hour nap of my life. | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | 0 | 625 | 1.348214 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i6n6a | h4hdyou | 1,625,770,468 | 1,625,757,963 | 151 | 85 | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | "I'm going to buy a nice mechanical watch" That was four years ago, still haven't gotten around to it. | 1 | 12,505 | 1.776471 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i6n6a | h4hlq7z | 1,625,770,468 | 1,625,761,357 | 151 | 60 | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | I got myself a camera (a used Sony a7iii) that I'd been lusting after since its release in Feb '18. Cost me a pretty penny (~$1k, plus another $800 for a lens), but I combined it with my birthday as justification, alongside the sale of previous camera gear (a heavily used a6000 and some lenses, which I got ~$600 for). edit: here are a few photos I've taken with in in the last ~year :] https://i.redd.it/j8ltjlkg71a71.jpg https://i.redd.it/yofqm5g764y51.jpg https://i.redd.it/l2sm1fc061e51.jpg https://i.redd.it/a0ayuwavcxa61.jpg https://i.redd.it/cdpfftphd4251.jpg https://i.redd.it/3xopxdnxgzr61.jpg https://i.redd.it/p1qpgbdspqs51.jpg https://i.redd.it/kspntyd5rra61.jpg https://i.redd.it/clvkret9krs61.jpg https://i.redd.it/jhny92k571a71.jpg https://i.redd.it/ahibohr0bxa61.jpg https://i.redd.it/c3uja9s6wx051.jpg https://i.redd.it/fh1oxl6w23a71.jpg | 1 | 9,111 | 2.516667 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hqyww | h4i6n6a | 1,625,763,616 | 1,625,770,468 | 58 | 151 | No savings, no job, so probably nothing | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | 0 | 6,852 | 2.603448 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hk2xj | h4i6n6a | 1,625,760,639 | 1,625,770,468 | 48 | 151 | My husband bought me the full set of Roald Dahl children's books when I completed. Love them. | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | 0 | 9,829 | 3.145833 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i6n6a | h4i18ft | 1,625,770,468 | 1,625,768,091 | 151 | 48 | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | At this point, I buy myself something nice as a reward after each semester lmaoo | 1 | 2,377 | 3.145833 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hd3du | h4i6n6a | 1,625,757,574 | 1,625,770,468 | 41 | 151 | My partner is entering his PhD this year. Some ideas I have for him: quality leather satchel/laptop bag (will last forever), shadow box containing his graduation regalia and degree, bound copy of thesis, etc. The leather bag is probably the best “gift to self” idea on the list because you can use it daily in your work and it will only become better with use. | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | 0 | 12,894 | 3.682927 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hz3r1 | h4i6n6a | 1,625,767,152 | 1,625,770,468 | 25 | 151 | I bought myself an iPad and gave myself a month off to rest. My partner bought me diamond stud earrings (have always wanted some.) Favourite gift was the rest! I was starting a postdoc a few months later and it gave me the break I needed! | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | 0 | 3,316 | 6.04 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hj9i8 | h4i6n6a | 1,625,760,286 | 1,625,770,468 | 26 | 151 | I won't defend until next summer, but I plan on getting myself a tattoo. | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | 0 | 10,182 | 5.807692 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i6n6a | h4hs3gj | 1,625,770,468 | 1,625,764,105 | 151 | 22 | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | Yep, I got the large tattoo I'd been wanting for years. It's not directly or explicitly about my research, but the aesthetic evokes some of the stuff I was contemplating. And now I carry it with me. | 1 | 6,363 | 6.863636 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i6n6a | h4i4md4 | 1,625,770,468 | 1,625,769,584 | 151 | 20 | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | This is going to sound lame, but as kind of a treat for myself, I bought my own set of regalia. Already have a career outside of academia so I will most likely never ever need it again, but goddamnit I wanted it. Might buy myself an owl mask and wear it all at Halloween. (Caveat: I did not buy the super expensive Herff Jones bullshit, but found a decent quality off- brand supplier. Still wasn't cheap, but it was a fraction of the price of the official ones. I also didn't wear it for the actual ceremony (still had to rent) because I didn't want to stick out in case it wasn't identical, but in retrospect I think it would've been fine. Point is, it was 100% frivolous.) | 1 | 884 | 7.55 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4hnad8 | h4i6n6a | 1,625,762,032 | 1,625,770,468 | 19 | 151 | I had planned to when I started the program, but when I reached that point I wondered where I had thought the money to do that was going to come from. I did buy a nice pair of pants to defend in, but they actually didn't fit and a new pair wasn't going to arrive in time, so I ended up just wearing pants I already had. I did take a day trip to the town where I went to undergrad with a couple of my childhood friends the next day, and we had a nice lunch and got blowouts, which felt like a real treat! I'm finishing my postdoc and starting my first faculty position at the end of this month though, and I do think I'll probably get something nice for myself. Maybe frame my diploma for my office? Or maybe I'll just get some nice clothes (which won't last forever, but will certainly mark the transition). | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | 0 | 8,436 | 7.947368 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4ho0lq | h4i6n6a | 1,625,762,349 | 1,625,770,468 | 19 | 151 | Bought myself an Xbox One and a cool game as a gift after my defense and then proceeded to vegg out for about three days :) | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | 0 | 8,119 | 7.947368 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i6n6a | h4hv9cd | 1,625,770,468 | 1,625,765,474 | 151 | 18 | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | I really like fountain pens, and I plan to save up through my program and get myself a nice fountain pen once I successfully finish my PhD. | 1 | 4,994 | 8.388889 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i6n6a | h4i11pv | 1,625,770,468 | 1,625,768,010 | 151 | 13 | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | I was able to pay my security deposit for a place where I was going to do my post-doc. That's all the money I had to "buy myself a nice gift." I still haven't been able to buy a frame for my diploma. That cardboard tube is getting its use | 1 | 2,458 | 11.615385 |
og99xm | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Did you buy yourselves a nice gift when you defended your PhD? I was talking to a fellow grad student recently and she told me she’s been planning to buy herself a really nice pair of shoes when she defends, as a gift to herself for making it through. I defend in a little over a month and I can’t stop thinking about this. I feel like I should commemorate this milestone with something that I can hold onto forever but I’m at a loss for ideas. Have you ever given yourself a really nice gift either for defending or reaching some other academic milestone? If so, what was it? | h4i6n6a | h4i1vox | 1,625,770,468 | 1,625,768,373 | 151 | 11 | I defended in the early months of this year and got a pretty prestigious postdoc; when I arrive in my new town next month I'm buying myself a celebratory Le Creuset dutch oven. I can at least sell the dutch oven if I don't get a job after my postdoc to cover some expenses. It's like a dowry for academics. | No, I had a relatively young child at home. More important things to address by that point. | 1 | 2,095 | 13.727273 |
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