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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
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No law enforcement agency is going to waste their time on something this ridiculous. Your married adults now and there is a discrepancy on an adoption paper. They will sound like absolute fools presenting that to any type of law enforcement agent. I'm embarrassed for their stupidity.
There’s been a lot of good advice here regarding potential criminality (or lack thereof), but my bigger concern for you would be ensuring that you are legally each other’s next of kin. If your current marriage is, in fact, void, then her parents could conceivably succeed in petitioning a court to replace you as her next of kin. This could have an effect on end-of-life decision making (for both of you), as well as inheritance and even an analysis of grandparents rights (since they seem the type to seek them and many states differentiate rights based on whether or not the parents are married). I wouldn’t do anything until you speak to a lawyer who can advise you, but this is something you should be sure to discuss with them.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itmmpuv
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No law enforcement agency is going to waste their time on something this ridiculous. Your married adults now and there is a discrepancy on an adoption paper. They will sound like absolute fools presenting that to any type of law enforcement agent. I'm embarrassed for their stupidity.
Question: how did her parents not know that she was (assuming this mix up is legit) approximately 18 months old at time of adoption? A three year old and an 18month old are very different in terms of development, delays or not. How did a pediatrician or other professional not catch this?
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
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Utah does have a close in age law regarding statutory rape, which allows minors of ages 16 and 17 to consent to sex with an adult who is less than 7 years older than the minor. So leaving aside the issue of the marriage, you couldn't be charged with statutory rape for having sex with her when she was 17. So the only issue would be the marriage.
No law enforcement agency is going to waste their time on something this ridiculous. Your married adults now and there is a discrepancy on an adoption paper. They will sound like absolute fools presenting that to any type of law enforcement agent. I'm embarrassed for their stupidity.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
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Her parents told her her age. And she told you her age based on what her parents told her. The fact it's taken them like a decade to bring up the (possibility) of shoddy record keeping...and they didnt try to prevent the marriage in the first place... highlights this have nothing to do with age or consent. They're trying to blackmail you based on information that just came to light and may or may not be true...(when they gave you the supposedly false information in the first place)...It's unreal. She's in her late 20s now and is obviously still happy to be married to you. So her parents can't argue this is about her lack of ability to consent. But hell, if they want to go there...they're the ones who didnt examine the orphanage paperwork more closely until now and set up their daughter for an underage marriage in the first place. Let's call this what it is. They're trying to blackmail you to divorce based on religion, not age. And it's a laughable blackmail at that. A lot of orphanages have shoddy paperwork and make a guess on age. That age legally tends to stick. But even if it doesnt, the worst case scenario is you have to get remarried. Might be a hastle, but you wouldnt have to pay for divorce paperwork at least.
No law enforcement agency is going to waste their time on something this ridiculous. Your married adults now and there is a discrepancy on an adoption paper. They will sound like absolute fools presenting that to any type of law enforcement agent. I'm embarrassed for their stupidity.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itmmpuv
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No law enforcement agency is going to waste their time on something this ridiculous. Your married adults now and there is a discrepancy on an adoption paper. They will sound like absolute fools presenting that to any type of law enforcement agent. I'm embarrassed for their stupidity.
I'm not a lawyer but I'd say this hinges on her actual legal age - now and when you were married. What is her legal age on her birth certificate? Has she had it updated based on that paperwork or does she plan to?
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itm85pn
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Not a lawyer but I would find it hard to believe that any prosecuting attorney would pursue a criminal case here with her older age in all legal documents. Criminal intent is generally a necessary component of mens rea.
No law enforcement agency is going to waste their time on something this ridiculous. Your married adults now and there is a discrepancy on an adoption paper. They will sound like absolute fools presenting that to any type of law enforcement agent. I'm embarrassed for their stupidity.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itmcjvv
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Question: how did her parents not know that she was (assuming this mix up is legit) approximately 18 months old at time of adoption? A three year old and an 18month old are very different in terms of development, delays or not. How did a pediatrician or other professional not catch this?
There’s been a lot of good advice here regarding potential criminality (or lack thereof), but my bigger concern for you would be ensuring that you are legally each other’s next of kin. If your current marriage is, in fact, void, then her parents could conceivably succeed in petitioning a court to replace you as her next of kin. This could have an effect on end-of-life decision making (for both of you), as well as inheritance and even an analysis of grandparents rights (since they seem the type to seek them and many states differentiate rights based on whether or not the parents are married). I wouldn’t do anything until you speak to a lawyer who can advise you, but this is something you should be sure to discuss with them.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itlzirh
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Utah does have a close in age law regarding statutory rape, which allows minors of ages 16 and 17 to consent to sex with an adult who is less than 7 years older than the minor. So leaving aside the issue of the marriage, you couldn't be charged with statutory rape for having sex with her when she was 17. So the only issue would be the marriage.
There’s been a lot of good advice here regarding potential criminality (or lack thereof), but my bigger concern for you would be ensuring that you are legally each other’s next of kin. If your current marriage is, in fact, void, then her parents could conceivably succeed in petitioning a court to replace you as her next of kin. This could have an effect on end-of-life decision making (for both of you), as well as inheritance and even an analysis of grandparents rights (since they seem the type to seek them and many states differentiate rights based on whether or not the parents are married). I wouldn’t do anything until you speak to a lawyer who can advise you, but this is something you should be sure to discuss with them.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itlzj9l
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I'm not a lawyer but I'd say this hinges on her actual legal age - now and when you were married. What is her legal age on her birth certificate? Has she had it updated based on that paperwork or does she plan to?
There’s been a lot of good advice here regarding potential criminality (or lack thereof), but my bigger concern for you would be ensuring that you are legally each other’s next of kin. If your current marriage is, in fact, void, then her parents could conceivably succeed in petitioning a court to replace you as her next of kin. This could have an effect on end-of-life decision making (for both of you), as well as inheritance and even an analysis of grandparents rights (since they seem the type to seek them and many states differentiate rights based on whether or not the parents are married). I wouldn’t do anything until you speak to a lawyer who can advise you, but this is something you should be sure to discuss with them.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itmgsqh
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There’s been a lot of good advice here regarding potential criminality (or lack thereof), but my bigger concern for you would be ensuring that you are legally each other’s next of kin. If your current marriage is, in fact, void, then her parents could conceivably succeed in petitioning a court to replace you as her next of kin. This could have an effect on end-of-life decision making (for both of you), as well as inheritance and even an analysis of grandparents rights (since they seem the type to seek them and many states differentiate rights based on whether or not the parents are married). I wouldn’t do anything until you speak to a lawyer who can advise you, but this is something you should be sure to discuss with them.
Not a lawyer but I would find it hard to believe that any prosecuting attorney would pursue a criminal case here with her older age in all legal documents. Criminal intent is generally a necessary component of mens rea.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itmcjvv
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Question: how did her parents not know that she was (assuming this mix up is legit) approximately 18 months old at time of adoption? A three year old and an 18month old are very different in terms of development, delays or not. How did a pediatrician or other professional not catch this?
Utah does have a close in age law regarding statutory rape, which allows minors of ages 16 and 17 to consent to sex with an adult who is less than 7 years older than the minor. So leaving aside the issue of the marriage, you couldn't be charged with statutory rape for having sex with her when she was 17. So the only issue would be the marriage.
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
itmcjvv
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Question: how did her parents not know that she was (assuming this mix up is legit) approximately 18 months old at time of adoption? A three year old and an 18month old are very different in terms of development, delays or not. How did a pediatrician or other professional not catch this?
I'm not a lawyer but I'd say this hinges on her actual legal age - now and when you were married. What is her legal age on her birth certificate? Has she had it updated based on that paperwork or does she plan to?
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
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Not a lawyer but I would find it hard to believe that any prosecuting attorney would pursue a criminal case here with her older age in all legal documents. Criminal intent is generally a necessary component of mens rea.
Question: how did her parents not know that she was (assuming this mix up is legit) approximately 18 months old at time of adoption? A three year old and an 18month old are very different in terms of development, delays or not. How did a pediatrician or other professional not catch this?
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
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Her parents told her her age. And she told you her age based on what her parents told her. The fact it's taken them like a decade to bring up the (possibility) of shoddy record keeping...and they didnt try to prevent the marriage in the first place... highlights this have nothing to do with age or consent. They're trying to blackmail you based on information that just came to light and may or may not be true...(when they gave you the supposedly false information in the first place)...It's unreal. She's in her late 20s now and is obviously still happy to be married to you. So her parents can't argue this is about her lack of ability to consent. But hell, if they want to go there...they're the ones who didnt examine the orphanage paperwork more closely until now and set up their daughter for an underage marriage in the first place. Let's call this what it is. They're trying to blackmail you to divorce based on religion, not age. And it's a laughable blackmail at that. A lot of orphanages have shoddy paperwork and make a guess on age. That age legally tends to stick. But even if it doesnt, the worst case scenario is you have to get remarried. Might be a hastle, but you wouldnt have to pay for divorce paperwork at least.
I'm not a lawyer but I'd say this hinges on her actual legal age - now and when you were married. What is her legal age on her birth certificate? Has she had it updated based on that paperwork or does she plan to?
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[UT] Wife's parents threatening to bring a lawsuit against me for "underage marriage" I realize this is going to sound like a troll post, but it's not. My wife was adopted from Russia when she was 3 years old. A few years ago, we were looking into finding more information about her biological family. We looked over the documents we do have with a translator, who said that it looked like her birth date was translated incorrectly, and that actual birth date was about a year and a half later than what was told to her parents and ended up on her American paperwork. This meant that she wasn't 3 years old when she was adopted, she was actually about 18 months old. Her parents were surprised but not shocked by this because she was delayed as a child, but they thought that it was just because she was in an orphanage, and that it would even out when she was older, which it did. Here's where it gets dicey. My wife and I started dating when we were 16 and 18, and we got married at 18. If this is true, then we actually started dating at 14 and 18, and she would have been just short of 17 when we got married. This would obviously not be legal. I wouldn't have gotten married that early now or encourage it, but I obviously wouldn't have been dating someone that young in any case if I had known, but what's done is done and we're both in our late 20s now. They've never liked that we left the church and have since moved out of state. They're now threatening to show this "evidence" to the police and get me arrested for statutory and saying that our marriage isn't legal because she was (possibly) underage and didn't have the parental consent that would have been required. How much do we have to worry about here?
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Not a lawyer but I would find it hard to believe that any prosecuting attorney would pursue a criminal case here with her older age in all legal documents. Criminal intent is generally a necessary component of mens rea.
Her parents told her her age. And she told you her age based on what her parents told her. The fact it's taken them like a decade to bring up the (possibility) of shoddy record keeping...and they didnt try to prevent the marriage in the first place... highlights this have nothing to do with age or consent. They're trying to blackmail you based on information that just came to light and may or may not be true...(when they gave you the supposedly false information in the first place)...It's unreal. She's in her late 20s now and is obviously still happy to be married to you. So her parents can't argue this is about her lack of ability to consent. But hell, if they want to go there...they're the ones who didnt examine the orphanage paperwork more closely until now and set up their daughter for an underage marriage in the first place. Let's call this what it is. They're trying to blackmail you to divorce based on religion, not age. And it's a laughable blackmail at that. A lot of orphanages have shoddy paperwork and make a guess on age. That age legally tends to stick. But even if it doesnt, the worst case scenario is you have to get remarried. Might be a hastle, but you wouldnt have to pay for divorce paperwork at least.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Not a lawyer, but in the US if you were fired you owe them nothing - barring a signed contract that says otherwise.
Tell them your consulting rate, which should be well above the rate they used to pay you. I suggest 4x is a good starting point. Go up from there each time they whine about it. Unless you have some weird contract (highly unlikely), you can tell them to go pound sand.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Was there anything related to this demand in your original employment contract? Or anything similar to a noncompete clause? And was your contract for a fixed term or was it at will full employment? You are generally required to give over any company property, and I believe that would require intellectual property. But you are not required to continue working for someone or providing services or labor just because the services you provided were unique. You could be liable for breach of contract if you contracted to do something that you are now not doing. Otherwise, you cannot be compelled or sued for terminating at-will employment.
Tell them your consulting rate, which should be well above the rate they used to pay you. I suggest 4x is a good starting point. Go up from there each time they whine about it. Unless you have some weird contract (highly unlikely), you can tell them to go pound sand.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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When you say “removed from your job” - were you terminated? Given severance? Some companies may be able to condition the receipt of a severance package or discretionary benefits (unused vacation/sick time) on training a replacement. Depends on the state. In the US there is no set notice requirement - most states are ‘at will’ employment which means either party can terminate an employment contract at any time. Any SOP manuals or training manuals developed using company resources on company time could be considered their property, so you should turn over any copies you have. I’m assuming you didn’t destroy or delete anything like that on your way out, and turned over copies. As others have said, unless specific in a contract, there’s no obligation to train a replacement. You and they are free to contract for your subsequent time.
Tell them your consulting rate, which should be well above the rate they used to pay you. I suggest 4x is a good starting point. Go up from there each time they whine about it. Unless you have some weird contract (highly unlikely), you can tell them to go pound sand.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Tell them your consulting rate, which should be well above the rate they used to pay you. I suggest 4x is a good starting point. Go up from there each time they whine about it. Unless you have some weird contract (highly unlikely), you can tell them to go pound sand.
Not a lawyer, but I'd say in general 'No'. ​ For instance, lets say you worked from home for Netflix, and were coding their new Roku app, and had months of work done. I think you do need to turn it in, since its work you were paid to do. I don't think you have to 'explain' it, other than professional courtesy. Same if you were instrumental on a new Tesla battery, here's the diagnostics, good luck! If there's contracts or non-compete type arraignments or something signed beforehand, then maybe but I think 'explaining it to the team' sounds like the boss just f'ed up as that's pretty generic.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Tell them your consulting rate, which should be well above the rate they used to pay you. I suggest 4x is a good starting point. Go up from there each time they whine about it. Unless you have some weird contract (highly unlikely), you can tell them to go pound sand.
Where are you located? People are assuming you’re in the US, but the answer may be different if you’re not.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Not a lawyer. However, theoretically, they can try. Anyone can try to sue anyone for anything. The issue for them is that they don’t have any sort of case. It’s unlikely that their attorney would actually try anything beyond scare tactics because it would almost certainly be dismissed almost immediately. They can threaten you with legal action. They can send you letters or emails threatening legal action. But that’s probably the extent of what they’ll really do. All of that said, they theoretically can file a lawsuit. It won’t go anywhere but you’d need an attorney at that point to make it go away. So it would be a headache. I agree with the person who said to tell them you’ll be happy to do whatever for a consulting rate. Make sure you get everything in writing before doing any actual work if you go this route. That’s really the only reasonable option. They’ve already terminated you. It’s not like you’re going to be rehired for two weeks to do this task. And you’re certainly not going to volunteer for it. This is a time to politely say “f you, pay me.”
Not a lawyer, but in the US if you were fired you owe them nothing - barring a signed contract that says otherwise.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Was there anything related to this demand in your original employment contract? Or anything similar to a noncompete clause? And was your contract for a fixed term or was it at will full employment? You are generally required to give over any company property, and I believe that would require intellectual property. But you are not required to continue working for someone or providing services or labor just because the services you provided were unique. You could be liable for breach of contract if you contracted to do something that you are now not doing. Otherwise, you cannot be compelled or sued for terminating at-will employment.
Not a lawyer. However, theoretically, they can try. Anyone can try to sue anyone for anything. The issue for them is that they don’t have any sort of case. It’s unlikely that their attorney would actually try anything beyond scare tactics because it would almost certainly be dismissed almost immediately. They can threaten you with legal action. They can send you letters or emails threatening legal action. But that’s probably the extent of what they’ll really do. All of that said, they theoretically can file a lawsuit. It won’t go anywhere but you’d need an attorney at that point to make it go away. So it would be a headache. I agree with the person who said to tell them you’ll be happy to do whatever for a consulting rate. Make sure you get everything in writing before doing any actual work if you go this route. That’s really the only reasonable option. They’ve already terminated you. It’s not like you’re going to be rehired for two weeks to do this task. And you’re certainly not going to volunteer for it. This is a time to politely say “f you, pay me.”
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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When you say “removed from your job” - were you terminated? Given severance? Some companies may be able to condition the receipt of a severance package or discretionary benefits (unused vacation/sick time) on training a replacement. Depends on the state. In the US there is no set notice requirement - most states are ‘at will’ employment which means either party can terminate an employment contract at any time. Any SOP manuals or training manuals developed using company resources on company time could be considered their property, so you should turn over any copies you have. I’m assuming you didn’t destroy or delete anything like that on your way out, and turned over copies. As others have said, unless specific in a contract, there’s no obligation to train a replacement. You and they are free to contract for your subsequent time.
Not a lawyer. However, theoretically, they can try. Anyone can try to sue anyone for anything. The issue for them is that they don’t have any sort of case. It’s unlikely that their attorney would actually try anything beyond scare tactics because it would almost certainly be dismissed almost immediately. They can threaten you with legal action. They can send you letters or emails threatening legal action. But that’s probably the extent of what they’ll really do. All of that said, they theoretically can file a lawsuit. It won’t go anywhere but you’d need an attorney at that point to make it go away. So it would be a headache. I agree with the person who said to tell them you’ll be happy to do whatever for a consulting rate. Make sure you get everything in writing before doing any actual work if you go this route. That’s really the only reasonable option. They’ve already terminated you. It’s not like you’re going to be rehired for two weeks to do this task. And you’re certainly not going to volunteer for it. This is a time to politely say “f you, pay me.”
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Not a lawyer, but I'd say in general 'No'. ​ For instance, lets say you worked from home for Netflix, and were coding their new Roku app, and had months of work done. I think you do need to turn it in, since its work you were paid to do. I don't think you have to 'explain' it, other than professional courtesy. Same if you were instrumental on a new Tesla battery, here's the diagnostics, good luck! If there's contracts or non-compete type arraignments or something signed beforehand, then maybe but I think 'explaining it to the team' sounds like the boss just f'ed up as that's pretty generic.
Not a lawyer. However, theoretically, they can try. Anyone can try to sue anyone for anything. The issue for them is that they don’t have any sort of case. It’s unlikely that their attorney would actually try anything beyond scare tactics because it would almost certainly be dismissed almost immediately. They can threaten you with legal action. They can send you letters or emails threatening legal action. But that’s probably the extent of what they’ll really do. All of that said, they theoretically can file a lawsuit. It won’t go anywhere but you’d need an attorney at that point to make it go away. So it would be a headache. I agree with the person who said to tell them you’ll be happy to do whatever for a consulting rate. Make sure you get everything in writing before doing any actual work if you go this route. That’s really the only reasonable option. They’ve already terminated you. It’s not like you’re going to be rehired for two weeks to do this task. And you’re certainly not going to volunteer for it. This is a time to politely say “f you, pay me.”
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Where are you located? People are assuming you’re in the US, but the answer may be different if you’re not.
Not a lawyer. However, theoretically, they can try. Anyone can try to sue anyone for anything. The issue for them is that they don’t have any sort of case. It’s unlikely that their attorney would actually try anything beyond scare tactics because it would almost certainly be dismissed almost immediately. They can threaten you with legal action. They can send you letters or emails threatening legal action. But that’s probably the extent of what they’ll really do. All of that said, they theoretically can file a lawsuit. It won’t go anywhere but you’d need an attorney at that point to make it go away. So it would be a headache. I agree with the person who said to tell them you’ll be happy to do whatever for a consulting rate. Make sure you get everything in writing before doing any actual work if you go this route. That’s really the only reasonable option. They’ve already terminated you. It’s not like you’re going to be rehired for two weeks to do this task. And you’re certainly not going to volunteer for it. This is a time to politely say “f you, pay me.”
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Was there anything related to this demand in your original employment contract? Or anything similar to a noncompete clause? And was your contract for a fixed term or was it at will full employment? You are generally required to give over any company property, and I believe that would require intellectual property. But you are not required to continue working for someone or providing services or labor just because the services you provided were unique. You could be liable for breach of contract if you contracted to do something that you are now not doing. Otherwise, you cannot be compelled or sued for terminating at-will employment.
Not a lawyer, but in the US if you were fired you owe them nothing - barring a signed contract that says otherwise.
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This is a "them" emergency, not a "you" emergency. If you feel like helping them at all, do it only on your terms. Charge a reasonable hourly rate ($200-300/hr is common for IT and coders) and demand a minimum as well as up-front payment for each day you work. They can take or leave it. If they want further work, I recommend getting a Squareup reader so that you can take credit cards on the spot. No judge in the USA is going to order you to work in a situation like this, and certainly not for free. If they are playing games like this (immediately firing you, then trying to threaten you into returning immediately when they realize it will hurt the company) then they are toxic and clueless and make decisions based on irrational feelings rather than good business sense. Make every effort to arrange things in a way that puts all of the risk and downside on them and not you. Also, you have leverage here. If you're in a state that enforces non-compete agreements, feel free to make a written release of that a condition of doing the work.
Was there anything related to this demand in your original employment contract? Or anything similar to a noncompete clause? And was your contract for a fixed term or was it at will full employment? You are generally required to give over any company property, and I believe that would require intellectual property. But you are not required to continue working for someone or providing services or labor just because the services you provided were unique. You could be liable for breach of contract if you contracted to do something that you are now not doing. Otherwise, you cannot be compelled or sued for terminating at-will employment.
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This is a "them" emergency, not a "you" emergency. If you feel like helping them at all, do it only on your terms. Charge a reasonable hourly rate ($200-300/hr is common for IT and coders) and demand a minimum as well as up-front payment for each day you work. They can take or leave it. If they want further work, I recommend getting a Squareup reader so that you can take credit cards on the spot. No judge in the USA is going to order you to work in a situation like this, and certainly not for free. If they are playing games like this (immediately firing you, then trying to threaten you into returning immediately when they realize it will hurt the company) then they are toxic and clueless and make decisions based on irrational feelings rather than good business sense. Make every effort to arrange things in a way that puts all of the risk and downside on them and not you. Also, you have leverage here. If you're in a state that enforces non-compete agreements, feel free to make a written release of that a condition of doing the work.
When you say “removed from your job” - were you terminated? Given severance? Some companies may be able to condition the receipt of a severance package or discretionary benefits (unused vacation/sick time) on training a replacement. Depends on the state. In the US there is no set notice requirement - most states are ‘at will’ employment which means either party can terminate an employment contract at any time. Any SOP manuals or training manuals developed using company resources on company time could be considered their property, so you should turn over any copies you have. I’m assuming you didn’t destroy or delete anything like that on your way out, and turned over copies. As others have said, unless specific in a contract, there’s no obligation to train a replacement. You and they are free to contract for your subsequent time.
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I am not a lawyer The burden of training your replacement is NOT on you. You are no longer an employee of this company and you are not required to offer anything to them, especially if they terminated your employment. Your former employers incompetency to handle the workload is their problem, not yours. I would ignore them completely unless you receive notice of a lawsuit. But I find it hard to believe there is a lawyer out there that would take this case. If they continue, I would seriously consider filing a police report for harassment. Be cautious and ready for anything, but I would not be concerned at all with this. Also, unless you have found new employment I would consider filing for unemployment.
This is a "them" emergency, not a "you" emergency. If you feel like helping them at all, do it only on your terms. Charge a reasonable hourly rate ($200-300/hr is common for IT and coders) and demand a minimum as well as up-front payment for each day you work. They can take or leave it. If they want further work, I recommend getting a Squareup reader so that you can take credit cards on the spot. No judge in the USA is going to order you to work in a situation like this, and certainly not for free. If they are playing games like this (immediately firing you, then trying to threaten you into returning immediately when they realize it will hurt the company) then they are toxic and clueless and make decisions based on irrational feelings rather than good business sense. Make every effort to arrange things in a way that puts all of the risk and downside on them and not you. Also, you have leverage here. If you're in a state that enforces non-compete agreements, feel free to make a written release of that a condition of doing the work.
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Not a lawyer, but I'd say in general 'No'. ​ For instance, lets say you worked from home for Netflix, and were coding their new Roku app, and had months of work done. I think you do need to turn it in, since its work you were paid to do. I don't think you have to 'explain' it, other than professional courtesy. Same if you were instrumental on a new Tesla battery, here's the diagnostics, good luck! If there's contracts or non-compete type arraignments or something signed beforehand, then maybe but I think 'explaining it to the team' sounds like the boss just f'ed up as that's pretty generic.
This is a "them" emergency, not a "you" emergency. If you feel like helping them at all, do it only on your terms. Charge a reasonable hourly rate ($200-300/hr is common for IT and coders) and demand a minimum as well as up-front payment for each day you work. They can take or leave it. If they want further work, I recommend getting a Squareup reader so that you can take credit cards on the spot. No judge in the USA is going to order you to work in a situation like this, and certainly not for free. If they are playing games like this (immediately firing you, then trying to threaten you into returning immediately when they realize it will hurt the company) then they are toxic and clueless and make decisions based on irrational feelings rather than good business sense. Make every effort to arrange things in a way that puts all of the risk and downside on them and not you. Also, you have leverage here. If you're in a state that enforces non-compete agreements, feel free to make a written release of that a condition of doing the work.
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Where are you located? People are assuming you’re in the US, but the answer may be different if you’re not.
This is a "them" emergency, not a "you" emergency. If you feel like helping them at all, do it only on your terms. Charge a reasonable hourly rate ($200-300/hr is common for IT and coders) and demand a minimum as well as up-front payment for each day you work. They can take or leave it. If they want further work, I recommend getting a Squareup reader so that you can take credit cards on the spot. No judge in the USA is going to order you to work in a situation like this, and certainly not for free. If they are playing games like this (immediately firing you, then trying to threaten you into returning immediately when they realize it will hurt the company) then they are toxic and clueless and make decisions based on irrational feelings rather than good business sense. Make every effort to arrange things in a way that puts all of the risk and downside on them and not you. Also, you have leverage here. If you're in a state that enforces non-compete agreements, feel free to make a written release of that a condition of doing the work.
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This is a "them" emergency, not a "you" emergency. If you feel like helping them at all, do it only on your terms. Charge a reasonable hourly rate ($200-300/hr is common for IT and coders) and demand a minimum as well as up-front payment for each day you work. They can take or leave it. If they want further work, I recommend getting a Squareup reader so that you can take credit cards on the spot. No judge in the USA is going to order you to work in a situation like this, and certainly not for free. If they are playing games like this (immediately firing you, then trying to threaten you into returning immediately when they realize it will hurt the company) then they are toxic and clueless and make decisions based on irrational feelings rather than good business sense. Make every effort to arrange things in a way that puts all of the risk and downside on them and not you. Also, you have leverage here. If you're in a state that enforces non-compete agreements, feel free to make a written release of that a condition of doing the work.
This is not legal advice because I don’t know your jurisdiction or the terms of your employment. Generally It’s at-will employment, not at “my-demand”employment. When he fired you, he made the decision that you no longer work for him. How do you have obligation to teach someone how to do it if you don’t work there? Someone is out there that could do what you do and he could have hired them before firing you. Individual hires, temps, consulting agencies, past employees he didn’t burn bridges with are all out there to help him. He terminated you and you turned over your data. That’s all you are obligated to do. If you have specific intellectual property (1) that belongs to him (I.e a patented process), (2) you are able to give this knowledge back, (3) there is anyone else that can teach him, It sounds like have you fulfilled your obligations. If it’s his ip he should have a procedure or idea of what he does. Go file for unemployment, ignore calls and let someone else teach him or figure it out. If he tries to sue you, he can file suit and serve you process, and that is where you’ll need an attorney. His mistakes and poor planning won’t get rewarded. I don’t know of many attorneys that would take that. If anything, I wonder what employment related claims you could have against him. Even if he offers you a high consulting fee, at this point the relationship is soured and legal action has been threatened, I wouldn’t take it. His mistakes and poor planning won’t get rewarded.
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You owe them nothing. Don't help them in any way. Don't be a consultant as they may try and screw you later. Get an attorney to right them a letter if they keep bothering you
This is a "them" emergency, not a "you" emergency. If you feel like helping them at all, do it only on your terms. Charge a reasonable hourly rate ($200-300/hr is common for IT and coders) and demand a minimum as well as up-front payment for each day you work. They can take or leave it. If they want further work, I recommend getting a Squareup reader so that you can take credit cards on the spot. No judge in the USA is going to order you to work in a situation like this, and certainly not for free. If they are playing games like this (immediately firing you, then trying to threaten you into returning immediately when they realize it will hurt the company) then they are toxic and clueless and make decisions based on irrational feelings rather than good business sense. Make every effort to arrange things in a way that puts all of the risk and downside on them and not you. Also, you have leverage here. If you're in a state that enforces non-compete agreements, feel free to make a written release of that a condition of doing the work.
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Ignore them. You don't have to work for anybody, that's called slavery. They can only sue successfully if you maliciously damaged property (virus, etc.) Not if they can't replace you or you don't want to work for them.
This is a "them" emergency, not a "you" emergency. If you feel like helping them at all, do it only on your terms. Charge a reasonable hourly rate ($200-300/hr is common for IT and coders) and demand a minimum as well as up-front payment for each day you work. They can take or leave it. If they want further work, I recommend getting a Squareup reader so that you can take credit cards on the spot. No judge in the USA is going to order you to work in a situation like this, and certainly not for free. If they are playing games like this (immediately firing you, then trying to threaten you into returning immediately when they realize it will hurt the company) then they are toxic and clueless and make decisions based on irrational feelings rather than good business sense. Make every effort to arrange things in a way that puts all of the risk and downside on them and not you. Also, you have leverage here. If you're in a state that enforces non-compete agreements, feel free to make a written release of that a condition of doing the work.
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When you say “removed from your job” - were you terminated? Given severance? Some companies may be able to condition the receipt of a severance package or discretionary benefits (unused vacation/sick time) on training a replacement. Depends on the state. In the US there is no set notice requirement - most states are ‘at will’ employment which means either party can terminate an employment contract at any time. Any SOP manuals or training manuals developed using company resources on company time could be considered their property, so you should turn over any copies you have. I’m assuming you didn’t destroy or delete anything like that on your way out, and turned over copies. As others have said, unless specific in a contract, there’s no obligation to train a replacement. You and they are free to contract for your subsequent time.
Where are you located? People are assuming you’re in the US, but the answer may be different if you’re not.
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Not a lawyer, but I'd say in general 'No'. ​ For instance, lets say you worked from home for Netflix, and were coding their new Roku app, and had months of work done. I think you do need to turn it in, since its work you were paid to do. I don't think you have to 'explain' it, other than professional courtesy. Same if you were instrumental on a new Tesla battery, here's the diagnostics, good luck! If there's contracts or non-compete type arraignments or something signed beforehand, then maybe but I think 'explaining it to the team' sounds like the boss just f'ed up as that's pretty generic.
I am not a lawyer The burden of training your replacement is NOT on you. You are no longer an employee of this company and you are not required to offer anything to them, especially if they terminated your employment. Your former employers incompetency to handle the workload is their problem, not yours. I would ignore them completely unless you receive notice of a lawsuit. But I find it hard to believe there is a lawyer out there that would take this case. If they continue, I would seriously consider filing a police report for harassment. Be cautious and ready for anything, but I would not be concerned at all with this. Also, unless you have found new employment I would consider filing for unemployment.
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I am not a lawyer The burden of training your replacement is NOT on you. You are no longer an employee of this company and you are not required to offer anything to them, especially if they terminated your employment. Your former employers incompetency to handle the workload is their problem, not yours. I would ignore them completely unless you receive notice of a lawsuit. But I find it hard to believe there is a lawyer out there that would take this case. If they continue, I would seriously consider filing a police report for harassment. Be cautious and ready for anything, but I would not be concerned at all with this. Also, unless you have found new employment I would consider filing for unemployment.
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This is not legal advice because I don’t know your jurisdiction or the terms of your employment. Generally It’s at-will employment, not at “my-demand”employment. When he fired you, he made the decision that you no longer work for him. How do you have obligation to teach someone how to do it if you don’t work there? Someone is out there that could do what you do and he could have hired them before firing you. Individual hires, temps, consulting agencies, past employees he didn’t burn bridges with are all out there to help him. He terminated you and you turned over your data. That’s all you are obligated to do. If you have specific intellectual property (1) that belongs to him (I.e a patented process), (2) you are able to give this knowledge back, (3) there is anyone else that can teach him, It sounds like have you fulfilled your obligations. If it’s his ip he should have a procedure or idea of what he does. Go file for unemployment, ignore calls and let someone else teach him or figure it out. If he tries to sue you, he can file suit and serve you process, and that is where you’ll need an attorney. His mistakes and poor planning won’t get rewarded. I don’t know of many attorneys that would take that. If anything, I wonder what employment related claims you could have against him. Even if he offers you a high consulting fee, at this point the relationship is soured and legal action has been threatened, I wouldn’t take it. His mistakes and poor planning won’t get rewarded.
I am not a lawyer The burden of training your replacement is NOT on you. You are no longer an employee of this company and you are not required to offer anything to them, especially if they terminated your employment. Your former employers incompetency to handle the workload is their problem, not yours. I would ignore them completely unless you receive notice of a lawsuit. But I find it hard to believe there is a lawyer out there that would take this case. If they continue, I would seriously consider filing a police report for harassment. Be cautious and ready for anything, but I would not be concerned at all with this. Also, unless you have found new employment I would consider filing for unemployment.
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This is good advice from everyone. However, just an FYI, if by chance your boss decides to file a lawsuit against you it against, you do not ignore it. If you ignore it he can get a default judgment against you. This sounds like a worthless lawsuit and odds are he will never file it. It sounds like he is just trying to scare you. But dont just ignore a lawsuit if he is foolish enough to file one. If it happens, file an answer and get an attorney to get the thing dismissed. In the meantime, charge an outrageous consulting fee to train your replacements, just like others suggested.
Not a lawyer, but I'd say in general 'No'. ​ For instance, lets say you worked from home for Netflix, and were coding their new Roku app, and had months of work done. I think you do need to turn it in, since its work you were paid to do. I don't think you have to 'explain' it, other than professional courtesy. Same if you were instrumental on a new Tesla battery, here's the diagnostics, good luck! If there's contracts or non-compete type arraignments or something signed beforehand, then maybe but I think 'explaining it to the team' sounds like the boss just f'ed up as that's pretty generic.
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Where are you located? People are assuming you’re in the US, but the answer may be different if you’re not.
This is good advice from everyone. However, just an FYI, if by chance your boss decides to file a lawsuit against you it against, you do not ignore it. If you ignore it he can get a default judgment against you. This sounds like a worthless lawsuit and odds are he will never file it. It sounds like he is just trying to scare you. But dont just ignore a lawsuit if he is foolish enough to file one. If it happens, file an answer and get an attorney to get the thing dismissed. In the meantime, charge an outrageous consulting fee to train your replacements, just like others suggested.
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This is not legal advice because I don’t know your jurisdiction or the terms of your employment. Generally It’s at-will employment, not at “my-demand”employment. When he fired you, he made the decision that you no longer work for him. How do you have obligation to teach someone how to do it if you don’t work there? Someone is out there that could do what you do and he could have hired them before firing you. Individual hires, temps, consulting agencies, past employees he didn’t burn bridges with are all out there to help him. He terminated you and you turned over your data. That’s all you are obligated to do. If you have specific intellectual property (1) that belongs to him (I.e a patented process), (2) you are able to give this knowledge back, (3) there is anyone else that can teach him, It sounds like have you fulfilled your obligations. If it’s his ip he should have a procedure or idea of what he does. Go file for unemployment, ignore calls and let someone else teach him or figure it out. If he tries to sue you, he can file suit and serve you process, and that is where you’ll need an attorney. His mistakes and poor planning won’t get rewarded. I don’t know of many attorneys that would take that. If anything, I wonder what employment related claims you could have against him. Even if he offers you a high consulting fee, at this point the relationship is soured and legal action has been threatened, I wouldn’t take it. His mistakes and poor planning won’t get rewarded.
This is good advice from everyone. However, just an FYI, if by chance your boss decides to file a lawsuit against you it against, you do not ignore it. If you ignore it he can get a default judgment against you. This sounds like a worthless lawsuit and odds are he will never file it. It sounds like he is just trying to scare you. But dont just ignore a lawsuit if he is foolish enough to file one. If it happens, file an answer and get an attorney to get the thing dismissed. In the meantime, charge an outrageous consulting fee to train your replacements, just like others suggested.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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You can sue anyone for anything, but he’s not going to find an attorney willing to do this. He can offer you some consideration for help but you have no obligation.
This is good advice from everyone. However, just an FYI, if by chance your boss decides to file a lawsuit against you it against, you do not ignore it. If you ignore it he can get a default judgment against you. This sounds like a worthless lawsuit and odds are he will never file it. It sounds like he is just trying to scare you. But dont just ignore a lawsuit if he is foolish enough to file one. If it happens, file an answer and get an attorney to get the thing dismissed. In the meantime, charge an outrageous consulting fee to train your replacements, just like others suggested.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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You owe them nothing. Don't help them in any way. Don't be a consultant as they may try and screw you later. Get an attorney to right them a letter if they keep bothering you
This is good advice from everyone. However, just an FYI, if by chance your boss decides to file a lawsuit against you it against, you do not ignore it. If you ignore it he can get a default judgment against you. This sounds like a worthless lawsuit and odds are he will never file it. It sounds like he is just trying to scare you. But dont just ignore a lawsuit if he is foolish enough to file one. If it happens, file an answer and get an attorney to get the thing dismissed. In the meantime, charge an outrageous consulting fee to train your replacements, just like others suggested.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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This is good advice from everyone. However, just an FYI, if by chance your boss decides to file a lawsuit against you it against, you do not ignore it. If you ignore it he can get a default judgment against you. This sounds like a worthless lawsuit and odds are he will never file it. It sounds like he is just trying to scare you. But dont just ignore a lawsuit if he is foolish enough to file one. If it happens, file an answer and get an attorney to get the thing dismissed. In the meantime, charge an outrageous consulting fee to train your replacements, just like others suggested.
Ignore them. You don't have to work for anybody, that's called slavery. They can only sue successfully if you maliciously damaged property (virus, etc.) Not if they can't replace you or you don't want to work for them.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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You owe them nothing. Don't help them in any way. Don't be a consultant as they may try and screw you later. Get an attorney to right them a letter if they keep bothering you
You can sue anyone for anything, but he’s not going to find an attorney willing to do this. He can offer you some consideration for help but you have no obligation.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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You can sue anyone for anything, but he’s not going to find an attorney willing to do this. He can offer you some consideration for help but you have no obligation.
Ignore them. You don't have to work for anybody, that's called slavery. They can only sue successfully if you maliciously damaged property (virus, etc.) Not if they can't replace you or you don't want to work for them.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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You owe them nothing. Don't help them in any way. Don't be a consultant as they may try and screw you later. Get an attorney to right them a letter if they keep bothering you
Contacting a lawyer may be good for a few reasons. Peace of mind as someone suggested and to assist you in creating a contract to present to ex boss if you are interested in working as a contractor to train the employee. Someone also mentioned future issues could come back to haunt you if you train. A lawyer could help you with a fee, minimum hours, no future liability, etc.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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Ignore them. You don't have to work for anybody, that's called slavery. They can only sue successfully if you maliciously damaged property (virus, etc.) Not if they can't replace you or you don't want to work for them.
Contacting a lawyer may be good for a few reasons. Peace of mind as someone suggested and to assist you in creating a contract to present to ex boss if you are interested in working as a contractor to train the employee. Someone also mentioned future issues could come back to haunt you if you train. A lawyer could help you with a fee, minimum hours, no future liability, etc.
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Previous employer threatening lawsuit as I did not transfer my complete knowledge/work(according to him) to my peers before leaving. I was removed from my job by my ex-employer. I left the company immediately and gave my codebase to my peer. I did not thouroughly explain my work to the person who would take my work or give any notice period to my ex-employer. Now after 2 weeks, my ex-employer is demanding me to meet the team and explain my work to the team as they cannot reproduce my work. My ex-employer is threatening legal action if I do not accept his demand. Is this possible? Is he allowed to take legal action against me? Am I legally obligated to respond to my ex-employer? What would happen if I completely ignore my ex-employer?
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You owe them nothing. Don't help them in any way. Don't be a consultant as they may try and screw you later. Get an attorney to right them a letter if they keep bothering you
Ignore them. You don't have to work for anybody, that's called slavery. They can only sue successfully if you maliciously damaged property (virus, etc.) Not if they can't replace you or you don't want to work for them.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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It's a common scam. You just ignore them. Absolutely don't send them any money back.
Ignore them. If they file a lawsuit, you should respond If the money's been returned by then, it's a moot issue (bring proof). If it hasn't, bring the documentation that you've been trying to get it done
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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Not a lawyer but This guy accidentally sent you $1000, you don't know who he is, but he somehow knows where you work and has your home address and he thinks he has a chance of suing you for the funds this quickly instead of waiting for the claim? Nah... scam. I'm not a judge can't imagine any of them that would even consider finding in his favor, given the circumstance and how much it LOOKS like a scam. No one would fault you for following the bank's advice on this. He wouldn't even have the paperwork filed before the claim timeframe was up anyway, much less get a court date.
As many people have already said this is surely a scam and they are just trying to scare you into sending them the money. Check out r/scams. Tons of posts about people who were scammed this way.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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This sounds like a scam. I wouldn't communicate any further with this person.
Not a lawyer but This guy accidentally sent you $1000, you don't know who he is, but he somehow knows where you work and has your home address and he thinks he has a chance of suing you for the funds this quickly instead of waiting for the claim? Nah... scam. I'm not a judge can't imagine any of them that would even consider finding in his favor, given the circumstance and how much it LOOKS like a scam. No one would fault you for following the bank's advice on this. He wouldn't even have the paperwork filed before the claim timeframe was up anyway, much less get a court date.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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It's a scam, someone tired this with me some years back and said that he was going to send the cops to my work to arrest me if I did not pay him the money right now. I said that I'm at work and I will be waiting for the cops. They never showed and never heard back again. Let them know they this is harassments and you are filing a police report and you won't here from them again. They try to play on your fears. Don't let them. ​ I had a guy call said he worked for Social Security and my SS# was frozen due to fraud and I was going to jail. I asked him why didn't he just come down to the Second Floor where I work at the SS office and let me know. They hung up and never called again. If you want have fun with them. I have even had a gut try to catfish me and I know right away what he was doing and cat fished him back. Man was he pissed when he realized I wasn't falling for his scam.
***There is no $1000, you are being scammed. Do not send them any money.*** After you send the money, you'll end up losing another $1000.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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As many people have already said this is surely a scam and they are just trying to scare you into sending them the money. Check out r/scams. Tons of posts about people who were scammed this way.
***There is no $1000, you are being scammed. Do not send them any money.*** After you send the money, you'll end up losing another $1000.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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This sounds like a scam. I wouldn't communicate any further with this person.
***There is no $1000, you are being scammed. Do not send them any money.*** After you send the money, you'll end up losing another $1000.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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More than likely it is a scam. Just ignore this person until you receive papers from the court. Keep your documentation showing the contact you've had with him along woth the communications woth the bank.
***There is no $1000, you are being scammed. Do not send them any money.*** After you send the money, you'll end up losing another $1000.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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It's a scam, someone tired this with me some years back and said that he was going to send the cops to my work to arrest me if I did not pay him the money right now. I said that I'm at work and I will be waiting for the cops. They never showed and never heard back again. Let them know they this is harassments and you are filing a police report and you won't here from them again. They try to play on your fears. Don't let them. ​ I had a guy call said he worked for Social Security and my SS# was frozen due to fraud and I was going to jail. I asked him why didn't he just come down to the Second Floor where I work at the SS office and let me know. They hung up and never called again. If you want have fun with them. I have even had a gut try to catfish me and I know right away what he was doing and cat fished him back. Man was he pissed when he realized I wasn't falling for his scam.
**To clarify on how this particular scam works:** it is not the same scam as in the classic "Oh sorry I got a check for more than I should have, can you please give me change" where the check ends up being fraudulent so you lose the money you sent back; this time there is indeed a valid Zelle transaction that happened, most likely, from a stolen/hacked account. When you receive a Zelle transfer it does not include the email/phone number that the payee registered, only their name. Email I got from my bank (Chase) after I received Zelle transfer: >You received a payment > >LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME sent you money through Chase QuickPay® with Zelle®. > >Your sender is registered with a Zelle member bank that supports payments in real time. You'll usually get their payment in a few minutes. > >Payment details: > >Amount: $xxx,xxx.xx (USD) > >Memo: memotext > >To learn more, sign in to chase.com/QP. > >Have questions? Please call Chase Customer Service at 1-877-242-7372. > >Sincerely, > >Chase QuickPay® with Zelle® team To send them money back they would give you an email or phone number registered with Zelle so that you "send the money back", but you have no way to verify this is the same as the one registered with the stolen/hacked account. If you do send them money, there is no way to recover it, as they warn you with big letters before you press send, and the owner of the stolen account may be able to cancel the fraudulent transaction, so either you or the hacked account owner lose the money "sent by accident". What OP did is the best possible approach: report the transaction and have them return the money. It would be even better if the bank could somehow put out a warning on the stolen account for possible fraudulent activity. Edit: typos
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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**To clarify on how this particular scam works:** it is not the same scam as in the classic "Oh sorry I got a check for more than I should have, can you please give me change" where the check ends up being fraudulent so you lose the money you sent back; this time there is indeed a valid Zelle transaction that happened, most likely, from a stolen/hacked account. When you receive a Zelle transfer it does not include the email/phone number that the payee registered, only their name. Email I got from my bank (Chase) after I received Zelle transfer: >You received a payment > >LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME sent you money through Chase QuickPay® with Zelle®. > >Your sender is registered with a Zelle member bank that supports payments in real time. You'll usually get their payment in a few minutes. > >Payment details: > >Amount: $xxx,xxx.xx (USD) > >Memo: memotext > >To learn more, sign in to chase.com/QP. > >Have questions? Please call Chase Customer Service at 1-877-242-7372. > >Sincerely, > >Chase QuickPay® with Zelle® team To send them money back they would give you an email or phone number registered with Zelle so that you "send the money back", but you have no way to verify this is the same as the one registered with the stolen/hacked account. If you do send them money, there is no way to recover it, as they warn you with big letters before you press send, and the owner of the stolen account may be able to cancel the fraudulent transaction, so either you or the hacked account owner lose the money "sent by accident". What OP did is the best possible approach: report the transaction and have them return the money. It would be even better if the bank could somehow put out a warning on the stolen account for possible fraudulent activity. Edit: typos
As many people have already said this is surely a scam and they are just trying to scare you into sending them the money. Check out r/scams. Tons of posts about people who were scammed this way.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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This sounds like a scam. I wouldn't communicate any further with this person.
**To clarify on how this particular scam works:** it is not the same scam as in the classic "Oh sorry I got a check for more than I should have, can you please give me change" where the check ends up being fraudulent so you lose the money you sent back; this time there is indeed a valid Zelle transaction that happened, most likely, from a stolen/hacked account. When you receive a Zelle transfer it does not include the email/phone number that the payee registered, only their name. Email I got from my bank (Chase) after I received Zelle transfer: >You received a payment > >LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME sent you money through Chase QuickPay® with Zelle®. > >Your sender is registered with a Zelle member bank that supports payments in real time. You'll usually get their payment in a few minutes. > >Payment details: > >Amount: $xxx,xxx.xx (USD) > >Memo: memotext > >To learn more, sign in to chase.com/QP. > >Have questions? Please call Chase Customer Service at 1-877-242-7372. > >Sincerely, > >Chase QuickPay® with Zelle® team To send them money back they would give you an email or phone number registered with Zelle so that you "send the money back", but you have no way to verify this is the same as the one registered with the stolen/hacked account. If you do send them money, there is no way to recover it, as they warn you with big letters before you press send, and the owner of the stolen account may be able to cancel the fraudulent transaction, so either you or the hacked account owner lose the money "sent by accident". What OP did is the best possible approach: report the transaction and have them return the money. It would be even better if the bank could somehow put out a warning on the stolen account for possible fraudulent activity. Edit: typos
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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More than likely it is a scam. Just ignore this person until you receive papers from the court. Keep your documentation showing the contact you've had with him along woth the communications woth the bank.
**To clarify on how this particular scam works:** it is not the same scam as in the classic "Oh sorry I got a check for more than I should have, can you please give me change" where the check ends up being fraudulent so you lose the money you sent back; this time there is indeed a valid Zelle transaction that happened, most likely, from a stolen/hacked account. When you receive a Zelle transfer it does not include the email/phone number that the payee registered, only their name. Email I got from my bank (Chase) after I received Zelle transfer: >You received a payment > >LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME sent you money through Chase QuickPay® with Zelle®. > >Your sender is registered with a Zelle member bank that supports payments in real time. You'll usually get their payment in a few minutes. > >Payment details: > >Amount: $xxx,xxx.xx (USD) > >Memo: memotext > >To learn more, sign in to chase.com/QP. > >Have questions? Please call Chase Customer Service at 1-877-242-7372. > >Sincerely, > >Chase QuickPay® with Zelle® team To send them money back they would give you an email or phone number registered with Zelle so that you "send the money back", but you have no way to verify this is the same as the one registered with the stolen/hacked account. If you do send them money, there is no way to recover it, as they warn you with big letters before you press send, and the owner of the stolen account may be able to cancel the fraudulent transaction, so either you or the hacked account owner lose the money "sent by accident". What OP did is the best possible approach: report the transaction and have them return the money. It would be even better if the bank could somehow put out a warning on the stolen account for possible fraudulent activity. Edit: typos
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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As many people have already said this is surely a scam and they are just trying to scare you into sending them the money. Check out r/scams. Tons of posts about people who were scammed this way.
It's a scam, someone tired this with me some years back and said that he was going to send the cops to my work to arrest me if I did not pay him the money right now. I said that I'm at work and I will be waiting for the cops. They never showed and never heard back again. Let them know they this is harassments and you are filing a police report and you won't here from them again. They try to play on your fears. Don't let them. ​ I had a guy call said he worked for Social Security and my SS# was frozen due to fraud and I was going to jail. I asked him why didn't he just come down to the Second Floor where I work at the SS office and let me know. They hung up and never called again. If you want have fun with them. I have even had a gut try to catfish me and I know right away what he was doing and cat fished him back. Man was he pissed when he realized I wasn't falling for his scam.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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It's a scam, someone tired this with me some years back and said that he was going to send the cops to my work to arrest me if I did not pay him the money right now. I said that I'm at work and I will be waiting for the cops. They never showed and never heard back again. Let them know they this is harassments and you are filing a police report and you won't here from them again. They try to play on your fears. Don't let them. ​ I had a guy call said he worked for Social Security and my SS# was frozen due to fraud and I was going to jail. I asked him why didn't he just come down to the Second Floor where I work at the SS office and let me know. They hung up and never called again. If you want have fun with them. I have even had a gut try to catfish me and I know right away what he was doing and cat fished him back. Man was he pissed when he realized I wasn't falling for his scam.
This sounds like a scam. I wouldn't communicate any further with this person.
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A random person “accidentally” sent me money through Zelle. I filed a claim to return it but they are threatening legal action for how long it’s taking. A couple of weeks ago I received a notification for a Zelle payment of a little under $1000. I did not recognize the sender and figured this was some sort of scam and it wouldn’t clear. The money cleared 3 days later and I received an email from this man asking to return the money. I called my bank and they advised me to file a claim so I did. This was to take up to 10 business days and I informed this person and provided him all of the information the bank had provided to me (claim number as well as mail confirmation of the claim I received from the bank) This apparently in his words was stupid and I should immediately send the money but I refused as the bank advised and said to wait the 10 business days for the claim to come to completion. He threatened Legal action as advised supposedly by his attorney, says he has my place of employment as well as home address and is now saying “you have court papers served to you” The 10 business days this claim is supposed to be finished by is Nov. 4th. What should I do? I have never been in a situation like this before.
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It's a scam, someone tired this with me some years back and said that he was going to send the cops to my work to arrest me if I did not pay him the money right now. I said that I'm at work and I will be waiting for the cops. They never showed and never heard back again. Let them know they this is harassments and you are filing a police report and you won't here from them again. They try to play on your fears. Don't let them. ​ I had a guy call said he worked for Social Security and my SS# was frozen due to fraud and I was going to jail. I asked him why didn't he just come down to the Second Floor where I work at the SS office and let me know. They hung up and never called again. If you want have fun with them. I have even had a gut try to catfish me and I know right away what he was doing and cat fished him back. Man was he pissed when he realized I wasn't falling for his scam.
More than likely it is a scam. Just ignore this person until you receive papers from the court. Keep your documentation showing the contact you've had with him along woth the communications woth the bank.
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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Contact your local renters rights organization. You could look through your city’s renters rights bill. Worst case get a lawyer.
Not a lawyer - Make a police report. Also, call the local city health department, since all housing is to have running water and power. File a complaint with the Arkansas Attorney General's office. * https://arkansasag.gov/consumer-protection/home/landlord-and-tenant-rights/ * https://d38t1cionx51tx.cloudfront.net/af79vg5lpt6ircsaxx5c5nbocbxc?d=&e=pdf%22 * https://katv.com/news/local/what-are-tenant-rights-in-arkansas-brian-contino-kendall-lewellen-arkansas-legal-services-city-of-little-rock-act-1052-inspection-air-conditioning-tenant-rights-free-legal-advice-rental-agreements Here is a set of links to some Arkansas tenant organizations that may be able to help. * https://www.arkansaslegal.org/housing-and-rentals * https://www.arkstrongcommunities.com/issues/local-and-national-organizations/ * https://www.arkstrongcommunities.com/get-involved/
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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Contact your local renters rights organization. You could look through your city’s renters rights bill. Worst case get a lawyer.
Arkansas has some of the worst tenant protection laws out there. They have no requirement of warrant of habitability that requires it meets a very low bar of safety from cold with heat, running water, etc. As others say tenant's rights lawyers/organizations can help point you to your rights in preexisting things being turned off. But I'm not sure others recognize Arkansas can legally rent out inhabitable units.
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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In addition to the rest of the great advice here, I would speak to the local utility companies. They tend to not like it when their equipment is tampered with, and may have a good grasp of the legal implications of shutting off power and water in anticipation of a storm like that.
Contact your local renters rights organization. You could look through your city’s renters rights bill. Worst case get a lawyer.
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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"Winterization" has nothing to do with turnig electric power off. "Winterization" has nothing to do with cuttting off water in house that is still occupied. "Winterization" needed only in vacant house. Landlord tried to kill you by freezing to death.
Info: Does the house have central heat and you don't turn it on to save utility bills?
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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If you are in Central Arkansas,you can contact Central AR Legal Services for assistance with tenant landlord issues. 501-376-3423
"Winterization" has nothing to do with turnig electric power off. "Winterization" has nothing to do with cuttting off water in house that is still occupied. "Winterization" needed only in vacant house. Landlord tried to kill you by freezing to death.
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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Not a lawyer Contact an attorney for your area. If you are living there, them turning off the water or electricity does not seem legal. That would leave you without means to survive there. You also would do well to check your lease, and due to there being no power or water, means that the place is not really habitable, especially in the winter and presents a danger. And how are you suppose to say cook food?
"Winterization" has nothing to do with turnig electric power off. "Winterization" has nothing to do with cuttting off water in house that is still occupied. "Winterization" needed only in vacant house. Landlord tried to kill you by freezing to death.
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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I’m very sorry this happened to you. You’ve already got great recommendations for legal resources. Here’s a free website that will allow you to locate help with housing, heat, food, clothes, blankets, etc. It will basically list all of the agencies and non-profits in your area that can assist you in getting into warm housing. https://www.findhelp.org/
"Winterization" has nothing to do with turnig electric power off. "Winterization" has nothing to do with cuttting off water in house that is still occupied. "Winterization" needed only in vacant house. Landlord tried to kill you by freezing to death.
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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How about stay in a hotel until the landlord restores water and electricity and send them the bill since they chose to shut you out for the storm?
"Winterization" has nothing to do with turnig electric power off. "Winterization" has nothing to do with cuttting off water in house that is still occupied. "Winterization" needed only in vacant house. Landlord tried to kill you by freezing to death.
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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If you are in Central Arkansas,you can contact Central AR Legal Services for assistance with tenant landlord issues. 501-376-3423
Not a lawyer Contact an attorney for your area. If you are living there, them turning off the water or electricity does not seem legal. That would leave you without means to survive there. You also would do well to check your lease, and due to there being no power or water, means that the place is not really habitable, especially in the winter and presents a danger. And how are you suppose to say cook food?
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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If you are in Central Arkansas,you can contact Central AR Legal Services for assistance with tenant landlord issues. 501-376-3423
I’m very sorry this happened to you. You’ve already got great recommendations for legal resources. Here’s a free website that will allow you to locate help with housing, heat, food, clothes, blankets, etc. It will basically list all of the agencies and non-profits in your area that can assist you in getting into warm housing. https://www.findhelp.org/
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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If you are in Central Arkansas,you can contact Central AR Legal Services for assistance with tenant landlord issues. 501-376-3423
How about stay in a hotel until the landlord restores water and electricity and send them the bill since they chose to shut you out for the storm?
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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I’m very sorry this happened to you. You’ve already got great recommendations for legal resources. Here’s a free website that will allow you to locate help with housing, heat, food, clothes, blankets, etc. It will basically list all of the agencies and non-profits in your area that can assist you in getting into warm housing. https://www.findhelp.org/
Not a lawyer Contact an attorney for your area. If you are living there, them turning off the water or electricity does not seem legal. That would leave you without means to survive there. You also would do well to check your lease, and due to there being no power or water, means that the place is not really habitable, especially in the winter and presents a danger. And how are you suppose to say cook food?
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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How about stay in a hotel until the landlord restores water and electricity and send them the bill since they chose to shut you out for the storm?
I’m very sorry this happened to you. You’ve already got great recommendations for legal resources. Here’s a free website that will allow you to locate help with housing, heat, food, clothes, blankets, etc. It will basically list all of the agencies and non-profits in your area that can assist you in getting into warm housing. https://www.findhelp.org/
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Landlord turned off my electricity & water the day before a winter storm hit This happened this past Thursday in Arkansas. I was sleeping & I heard banging on my bedroom door. I live alone & I know I locked my doors, so I get up to see who’s in my house. It was my landlords. No idea how they even got in my house & all the way to my bedroom. I was literally just wearing a tshirt & boxers because i was sleep. They turned my water & electricity off the day before a winter storm was supposed to hit. Their reason being is that the house is “winterized” because I don’t have central heat. I just use my space heater, which works really well. They say I can’t use the space heater because it will burn the wiring of the whole house, however, I’ve used that same space heater for the last 3 years in the house & never had a problem with electricity. They poured anti freeze down my toilet & drains. When they turned my electricity off, they put their own lock on it to keep from turning it back on. And since they turned my water off, the water has frozen in the pipes. I’ve been having to basically live in my car the past few days because it is -3 degrees in the house. After they did all that, they left to go spend Christmas with their family. I was just able to get the police to get my lights back on, but is there more that I can do? I feel like what they did is completely illegal & immoral.
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How about stay in a hotel until the landlord restores water and electricity and send them the bill since they chose to shut you out for the storm?
There is great advice in regards to what others have said about who to contact to fix what they did. But this space heater thing is a HUGE issue. You're continously creating a hazard by not using gas heating. The reason youre not suppose to only heat the room youre in is because the pipes are all around the house, they contain water, and if they freeze they can burst the pipe completely. Therefore you need to always heat your house to about 12 degrees minimum 24/7. If you cannot afford to heat that house to that then you need to move out as its a safety thing and maintenance issue. A burst pipe is not easily fixable and the costs are great.
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landlord kicked me out and is deliberately shutting off the power so i leave faster. long story short ive been subletting from a CREEPY man. this happened 4 days ago. me and my roommate confronted him about all of the illegal things he’s been doing. not telling us about lead paint, not fixing the fridge that freezes all of our food, charging us outrageous fees to have friends over, trying to give my roommate alcohol and weed, the DANGEROUS living conditions, mold, unsafe stairs, no smoke alarms etc. he flipped out and says hes “selling the house in two days”, tried bribing us $1k to leave, i told him that id rather have 30 days than any amount of money because otherwise i’d be homeless. i have no friends or family. he did not say this in writing. and i dont have a lease with him. now all of the sudden our rooms have no power, the bathroom also doesnt. he refuses to turn the heat on for us or do anything about it. i know i’m not gonna be here for long but i want him held accountable for treating his tenants poorly. anything i can do? before anyone says “the lead paint wont bother you unless you’re a child or pregnant”. i dont care.
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Not a lawyer. This isn't legal advice. You have been subletting from this man. That means you have estalished residency, giving you certain rights. Your lack of a lease is largely irrelevant in this case afaik. In order to "kick you out" your landlord is legally required to go through the eviction process. He CANNOT deprive you of utilities such as heat, electricity, running water, etc, nor can he lock you out of the house or your room in an attempt to expedite you vacating the building. If he does any of these things you need to get a lawyer ASAP. Contact Legal Aid for assistance. What he is doing is illegal and he will be held liable.
Shutting off essential utilities like electricity or heat is illegal; it's a form of constructive eviction. Contact your local housing court immediately. Here's a web page with further information and links to resources: https://masslegalhelp.org/health-mental-health/covid-19-illegal-eviction
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landlord kicked me out and is deliberately shutting off the power so i leave faster. long story short ive been subletting from a CREEPY man. this happened 4 days ago. me and my roommate confronted him about all of the illegal things he’s been doing. not telling us about lead paint, not fixing the fridge that freezes all of our food, charging us outrageous fees to have friends over, trying to give my roommate alcohol and weed, the DANGEROUS living conditions, mold, unsafe stairs, no smoke alarms etc. he flipped out and says hes “selling the house in two days”, tried bribing us $1k to leave, i told him that id rather have 30 days than any amount of money because otherwise i’d be homeless. i have no friends or family. he did not say this in writing. and i dont have a lease with him. now all of the sudden our rooms have no power, the bathroom also doesnt. he refuses to turn the heat on for us or do anything about it. i know i’m not gonna be here for long but i want him held accountable for treating his tenants poorly. anything i can do? before anyone says “the lead paint wont bother you unless you’re a child or pregnant”. i dont care.
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Call the fire department. Not having heat or power to rooms is unsafe and building violation.
Not a lawyer. This isn't legal advice. You have been subletting from this man. That means you have estalished residency, giving you certain rights. Your lack of a lease is largely irrelevant in this case afaik. In order to "kick you out" your landlord is legally required to go through the eviction process. He CANNOT deprive you of utilities such as heat, electricity, running water, etc, nor can he lock you out of the house or your room in an attempt to expedite you vacating the building. If he does any of these things you need to get a lawyer ASAP. Contact Legal Aid for assistance. What he is doing is illegal and he will be held liable.
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landlord kicked me out and is deliberately shutting off the power so i leave faster. long story short ive been subletting from a CREEPY man. this happened 4 days ago. me and my roommate confronted him about all of the illegal things he’s been doing. not telling us about lead paint, not fixing the fridge that freezes all of our food, charging us outrageous fees to have friends over, trying to give my roommate alcohol and weed, the DANGEROUS living conditions, mold, unsafe stairs, no smoke alarms etc. he flipped out and says hes “selling the house in two days”, tried bribing us $1k to leave, i told him that id rather have 30 days than any amount of money because otherwise i’d be homeless. i have no friends or family. he did not say this in writing. and i dont have a lease with him. now all of the sudden our rooms have no power, the bathroom also doesnt. he refuses to turn the heat on for us or do anything about it. i know i’m not gonna be here for long but i want him held accountable for treating his tenants poorly. anything i can do? before anyone says “the lead paint wont bother you unless you’re a child or pregnant”. i dont care.
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Not a lawyer. This isn't legal advice. You have been subletting from this man. That means you have estalished residency, giving you certain rights. Your lack of a lease is largely irrelevant in this case afaik. In order to "kick you out" your landlord is legally required to go through the eviction process. He CANNOT deprive you of utilities such as heat, electricity, running water, etc, nor can he lock you out of the house or your room in an attempt to expedite you vacating the building. If he does any of these things you need to get a lawyer ASAP. Contact Legal Aid for assistance. What he is doing is illegal and he will be held liable.
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landlord kicked me out and is deliberately shutting off the power so i leave faster. long story short ive been subletting from a CREEPY man. this happened 4 days ago. me and my roommate confronted him about all of the illegal things he’s been doing. not telling us about lead paint, not fixing the fridge that freezes all of our food, charging us outrageous fees to have friends over, trying to give my roommate alcohol and weed, the DANGEROUS living conditions, mold, unsafe stairs, no smoke alarms etc. he flipped out and says hes “selling the house in two days”, tried bribing us $1k to leave, i told him that id rather have 30 days than any amount of money because otherwise i’d be homeless. i have no friends or family. he did not say this in writing. and i dont have a lease with him. now all of the sudden our rooms have no power, the bathroom also doesnt. he refuses to turn the heat on for us or do anything about it. i know i’m not gonna be here for long but i want him held accountable for treating his tenants poorly. anything i can do? before anyone says “the lead paint wont bother you unless you’re a child or pregnant”. i dont care.
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Call the fire department. Not having heat or power to rooms is unsafe and building violation.
Shutting off essential utilities like electricity or heat is illegal; it's a form of constructive eviction. Contact your local housing court immediately. Here's a web page with further information and links to resources: https://masslegalhelp.org/health-mental-health/covid-19-illegal-eviction
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landlord kicked me out and is deliberately shutting off the power so i leave faster. long story short ive been subletting from a CREEPY man. this happened 4 days ago. me and my roommate confronted him about all of the illegal things he’s been doing. not telling us about lead paint, not fixing the fridge that freezes all of our food, charging us outrageous fees to have friends over, trying to give my roommate alcohol and weed, the DANGEROUS living conditions, mold, unsafe stairs, no smoke alarms etc. he flipped out and says hes “selling the house in two days”, tried bribing us $1k to leave, i told him that id rather have 30 days than any amount of money because otherwise i’d be homeless. i have no friends or family. he did not say this in writing. and i dont have a lease with him. now all of the sudden our rooms have no power, the bathroom also doesnt. he refuses to turn the heat on for us or do anything about it. i know i’m not gonna be here for long but i want him held accountable for treating his tenants poorly. anything i can do? before anyone says “the lead paint wont bother you unless you’re a child or pregnant”. i dont care.
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Shutting off essential utilities like electricity or heat is illegal; it's a form of constructive eviction. Contact your local housing court immediately. Here's a web page with further information and links to resources: https://masslegalhelp.org/health-mental-health/covid-19-illegal-eviction
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landlord kicked me out and is deliberately shutting off the power so i leave faster. long story short ive been subletting from a CREEPY man. this happened 4 days ago. me and my roommate confronted him about all of the illegal things he’s been doing. not telling us about lead paint, not fixing the fridge that freezes all of our food, charging us outrageous fees to have friends over, trying to give my roommate alcohol and weed, the DANGEROUS living conditions, mold, unsafe stairs, no smoke alarms etc. he flipped out and says hes “selling the house in two days”, tried bribing us $1k to leave, i told him that id rather have 30 days than any amount of money because otherwise i’d be homeless. i have no friends or family. he did not say this in writing. and i dont have a lease with him. now all of the sudden our rooms have no power, the bathroom also doesnt. he refuses to turn the heat on for us or do anything about it. i know i’m not gonna be here for long but i want him held accountable for treating his tenants poorly. anything i can do? before anyone says “the lead paint wont bother you unless you’re a child or pregnant”. i dont care.
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Call the fire department. Not having heat or power to rooms is unsafe and building violation.
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landlord kicked me out and is deliberately shutting off the power so i leave faster. long story short ive been subletting from a CREEPY man. this happened 4 days ago. me and my roommate confronted him about all of the illegal things he’s been doing. not telling us about lead paint, not fixing the fridge that freezes all of our food, charging us outrageous fees to have friends over, trying to give my roommate alcohol and weed, the DANGEROUS living conditions, mold, unsafe stairs, no smoke alarms etc. he flipped out and says hes “selling the house in two days”, tried bribing us $1k to leave, i told him that id rather have 30 days than any amount of money because otherwise i’d be homeless. i have no friends or family. he did not say this in writing. and i dont have a lease with him. now all of the sudden our rooms have no power, the bathroom also doesnt. he refuses to turn the heat on for us or do anything about it. i know i’m not gonna be here for long but i want him held accountable for treating his tenants poorly. anything i can do? before anyone says “the lead paint wont bother you unless you’re a child or pregnant”. i dont care.
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Offering you money to voluntarily terminate a lease is not bribery. "Cash for keys" is a very common and legal way to e.g. get troublesome tenants to leave without the hassle of going through the formal eviction process.
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[Washington] Can my landlord shut off my water? So I live in King County and am just trying to figure out whether my landlord can legally threaten to shut my water/electric off. Our utility and electric bills have been *outrageously* high (like 10-15x the amount of our average bills) since November 2021. The landlord let us know this when we received the bill and said that they were working with the city to investigate the issue. I didn’t hear back from my landlord until last month. He sent a pile of bills that have not been adjusted and is insisting we pay them with our next rent check or he will turn off the utilities. Is this legal? We do third party billing so all of the bills are in the landlord’s name and he said that he has paid the city but I don’t feel comfortable paying these bills until we figure out why they are in the $1000’s of dollars when before it was like $100/month. Tl;dr Can our landlord turn the water off if we are trying to dispute a crazy charge? Thanks!
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Cutting your utilities wouldn’t be one of your landlord’s available remedies even if you definitely owed money. There’s a good blip with more info here.
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[Washington] Can my landlord shut off my water? So I live in King County and am just trying to figure out whether my landlord can legally threaten to shut my water/electric off. Our utility and electric bills have been *outrageously* high (like 10-15x the amount of our average bills) since November 2021. The landlord let us know this when we received the bill and said that they were working with the city to investigate the issue. I didn’t hear back from my landlord until last month. He sent a pile of bills that have not been adjusted and is insisting we pay them with our next rent check or he will turn off the utilities. Is this legal? We do third party billing so all of the bills are in the landlord’s name and he said that he has paid the city but I don’t feel comfortable paying these bills until we figure out why they are in the $1000’s of dollars when before it was like $100/month. Tl;dr Can our landlord turn the water off if we are trying to dispute a crazy charge? Thanks!
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No, your landlord cannot deny you utilities for non payment. That is up to the utility department/city/county. You/your landlord (if there are in his name) should be able to request an extension for payment while the situation is investigated by the utility. These problems usually come down to a broken meter, and then they adjust your bill down based on average daily use over the past X months.
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[Washington] Can my landlord shut off my water? So I live in King County and am just trying to figure out whether my landlord can legally threaten to shut my water/electric off. Our utility and electric bills have been *outrageously* high (like 10-15x the amount of our average bills) since November 2021. The landlord let us know this when we received the bill and said that they were working with the city to investigate the issue. I didn’t hear back from my landlord until last month. He sent a pile of bills that have not been adjusted and is insisting we pay them with our next rent check or he will turn off the utilities. Is this legal? We do third party billing so all of the bills are in the landlord’s name and he said that he has paid the city but I don’t feel comfortable paying these bills until we figure out why they are in the $1000’s of dollars when before it was like $100/month. Tl;dr Can our landlord turn the water off if we are trying to dispute a crazy charge? Thanks!
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I don’t know your financial situation but if you need additional help dealing with this landlord and qualify, King County has several available resources to assist tenants with landlord-tenant issues. https://www.atg.wa.gov/residential-landlord-tenant-resources#:~:text=206%2D267%2D7070%20%E2%80%94%20King,to%20renters%2C%20regardless%20of%20income.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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I would get a lawyer quicker than that, especially because you feel unsafe. Get multiple appointments. Choose who you feel is right. Any chance you could stay with somebody else for a couple days? Friend? Family? (Hotel? Not sure if that would be covered under any lawsuit since I’m not a lawyer, maybe one will respond) Be safe, and please continue to update. This is odd enough to warrant concern. I have multiple properties and this is weird. Not a lawyer, but genuinely concerned.
I want to add an app to the conversation. It's called noonlight. You download it, and whenever you're in a situation you don't feel safe you hold the button on the app. If you let go of the button you have to put your pin in otherwise the authorities will be notified. If you can't (such as you've become incapacitated or hurt) that's when they will be notified. They may check on you anyway even if you put your pin in. I'm suggesting this just in case you get in a situation with your landlord and may need a little extra safety measure. It's a good idea to add your physical description info in the app (I think it's the notes section) so authorities know what you look like. Sorry I can't help you with the cameras issue.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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I would get a lawyer quicker than that, especially because you feel unsafe. Get multiple appointments. Choose who you feel is right. Any chance you could stay with somebody else for a couple days? Friend? Family? (Hotel? Not sure if that would be covered under any lawsuit since I’m not a lawyer, maybe one will respond) Be safe, and please continue to update. This is odd enough to warrant concern. I have multiple properties and this is weird. Not a lawyer, but genuinely concerned.
This is not legal advice, but having been in an abusive relationship things tend to escalate when you make steps to protect yourself. Unplugging the cameras may have triggered that. Please be safe, if possible call around a couple more law practices and plead your case to see if you can even get 30 minutes of their lunch break.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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This is not legal advice, but having been in an abusive relationship things tend to escalate when you make steps to protect yourself. Unplugging the cameras may have triggered that. Please be safe, if possible call around a couple more law practices and plead your case to see if you can even get 30 minutes of their lunch break.
you can't change the locks without giving the landlord a copy of the key. I'd recommend getting your own camera and setting it up to catch your landlord if they try entering your apartment to plug theirs back in. you can get decent ones on Amazon for about $25.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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Echoing the advice already offered, but you really should find somewhere else to stay for a few days, even a week, until you get that meeting with lawyer. They can advise you better what your options are. This sounds hella creepy and invasive regardless of legality. Your landlord is very stupid if all he wants is to monitor the property. He’s also very stupid if this is an attempt at spying on you as they’re obviously placed. Check your air vents in the bedrooms and bathroom for hidden cameras.
I would get a lawyer quicker than that, especially because you feel unsafe. Get multiple appointments. Choose who you feel is right. Any chance you could stay with somebody else for a couple days? Friend? Family? (Hotel? Not sure if that would be covered under any lawsuit since I’m not a lawyer, maybe one will respond) Be safe, and please continue to update. This is odd enough to warrant concern. I have multiple properties and this is weird. Not a lawyer, but genuinely concerned.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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Echoing the advice already offered, but you really should find somewhere else to stay for a few days, even a week, until you get that meeting with lawyer. They can advise you better what your options are. This sounds hella creepy and invasive regardless of legality. Your landlord is very stupid if all he wants is to monitor the property. He’s also very stupid if this is an attempt at spying on you as they’re obviously placed. Check your air vents in the bedrooms and bathroom for hidden cameras.
you can't change the locks without giving the landlord a copy of the key. I'd recommend getting your own camera and setting it up to catch your landlord if they try entering your apartment to plug theirs back in. you can get decent ones on Amazon for about $25.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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I would get a lawyer quicker than that, especially because you feel unsafe. Get multiple appointments. Choose who you feel is right. Any chance you could stay with somebody else for a couple days? Friend? Family? (Hotel? Not sure if that would be covered under any lawsuit since I’m not a lawyer, maybe one will respond) Be safe, and please continue to update. This is odd enough to warrant concern. I have multiple properties and this is weird. Not a lawyer, but genuinely concerned.
Check the air vents for possible hidden cameras. Also if the place was furnished check for spy cameras as well.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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Check the air vents for possible hidden cameras. Also if the place was furnished check for spy cameras as well.
you can't change the locks without giving the landlord a copy of the key. I'd recommend getting your own camera and setting it up to catch your landlord if they try entering your apartment to plug theirs back in. you can get decent ones on Amazon for about $25.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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I would get a lawyer quicker than that, especially because you feel unsafe. Get multiple appointments. Choose who you feel is right. Any chance you could stay with somebody else for a couple days? Friend? Family? (Hotel? Not sure if that would be covered under any lawsuit since I’m not a lawyer, maybe one will respond) Be safe, and please continue to update. This is odd enough to warrant concern. I have multiple properties and this is weird. Not a lawyer, but genuinely concerned.
>is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing In general, it would be legal but you would be obligated to return the doors/knobs/locks to how they were when you moved in. Not really a big deal. If you haven't yet, it would be worth searching for actual hidden cameras. Check vents, wall outlets, clocks, etc. If you find anything actually hidden call the police again ASAP, and if you find anything in private areas such as bathrooms or bedrooms, make sure to specifically mention that because that seriously raises the issue from invasion to a potential sex crime. https://reolink.com/blog/how-to-detect-hidden-cameras/
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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>is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing In general, it would be legal but you would be obligated to return the doors/knobs/locks to how they were when you moved in. Not really a big deal. If you haven't yet, it would be worth searching for actual hidden cameras. Check vents, wall outlets, clocks, etc. If you find anything actually hidden call the police again ASAP, and if you find anything in private areas such as bathrooms or bedrooms, make sure to specifically mention that because that seriously raises the issue from invasion to a potential sex crime. https://reolink.com/blog/how-to-detect-hidden-cameras/
you can't change the locks without giving the landlord a copy of the key. I'd recommend getting your own camera and setting it up to catch your landlord if they try entering your apartment to plug theirs back in. you can get decent ones on Amazon for about $25.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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If you're worried about him getting into the house while you're sleeping or busy, Dollar Tree sells these little door alarms that have one half adhere to your door frame, the other half adheres to your door itself and when they're separated they set off a LOUD alarm. It wouldn't permanently alter your door or do any damage and you'd definitely hear if he made his way inside or even attempted to. We've used them for years and it's crazy they're only a dollar bc they work so well. It'd be better than having to jam your bed against your door every night, at least it would save some time. You could add one of those lil wedges that others are talking about ( also at Dollar Tree ) and bam for a couple bucks you'd have guaranteed protection of keeping him out. I'm telling you tho those lil alarms are the shit.
I would get a lawyer quicker than that, especially because you feel unsafe. Get multiple appointments. Choose who you feel is right. Any chance you could stay with somebody else for a couple days? Friend? Family? (Hotel? Not sure if that would be covered under any lawsuit since I’m not a lawyer, maybe one will respond) Be safe, and please continue to update. This is odd enough to warrant concern. I have multiple properties and this is weird. Not a lawyer, but genuinely concerned.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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you can't change the locks without giving the landlord a copy of the key. I'd recommend getting your own camera and setting it up to catch your landlord if they try entering your apartment to plug theirs back in. you can get decent ones on Amazon for about $25.
If you're worried about him getting into the house while you're sleeping or busy, Dollar Tree sells these little door alarms that have one half adhere to your door frame, the other half adheres to your door itself and when they're separated they set off a LOUD alarm. It wouldn't permanently alter your door or do any damage and you'd definitely hear if he made his way inside or even attempted to. We've used them for years and it's crazy they're only a dollar bc they work so well. It'd be better than having to jam your bed against your door every night, at least it would save some time. You could add one of those lil wedges that others are talking about ( also at Dollar Tree ) and bam for a couple bucks you'd have guaranteed protection of keeping him out. I'm telling you tho those lil alarms are the shit.
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UPDATE] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? [Previous post I called the police this morning, and they came by a few hours ago. I gave them the photos I took, and they took some more photos of the cameras and the area they're recording. I'm also scheduled to talk with an attorney later this week to discuss my options. The downside is I am not allowed to move the cameras, but the cops did let me unplug them. They told me to call them back if I find any more cameras or if these ones are plugged back in. For the time being I'm still staying here, but I want to take a few more steps for my own security until I can move out. In California, is it legal for a tenant to change the locks on her bedroom and bathroom if there are no provisions in the lease that prevent lock changing? Similarly, if I were to file a TRO against my landlord that prevents him from entering the property, is there any actions he can take against me before I can move out?
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you can't change the locks without giving the landlord a copy of the key. I'd recommend getting your own camera and setting it up to catch your landlord if they try entering your apartment to plug theirs back in. you can get decent ones on Amazon for about $25.
This is a very dangerous situation. Please remove yourself from the premises till he can be brought under legal control. I would be in this guys face had he done this to my 20 yr old daughter. He's sick. And dangerous. Please get away asap.
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I was left with the family house, my brother (executor of the estate) ditched my daughter and me. He hasn’t paid a single bill for 5+years but I can’t refinance the house because, it’s his not mine. Pueblo, Colorado. The executor of the estate, my brother. He’s gone, I don’t know where? Last face to face we had was him call me a stupid bit”” and I’m dead to him. There’s a story behind this. He moved in with just a few hours notice to me. After 2 weeks I asked “ I asked are you going to help out with the bills,electric, gas,water,laundry soap….” He said no. I’m paying him rent to live here so he owes me nothing. My daughter is terrified of my brother. She’s also afraid of dogs. My brother didn’t get why I couldn’t let him live here. I have no paperwork stating this is my house. I have paid all of the bills since 2018. This has been the family house 80+ years. It’s just my daughter and me living here and I can’t refinance loans or hire someone to fix my staircase. ( 36 years old made from 2x4s and 6x8s.) I’ve called every lawyer in southern Colorado. None of them will help unless it’s a personal injury claim. I need help. I wish I could ask my parents or big brother.🥺 It’s going to be an injury claim. The stairs go to my daughters room. I’ve done my best.
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Is the deed in your name, your brothers name, or both? Whose name is on the mortgage? Are you paying rent to your brother or making mortgage payments? What does your daughter being afraid of dogs have anything to do with this?
I don’t understand any of this.
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