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I was left with the family house, my brother (executor of the estate) ditched my daughter and me. He hasn’t paid a single bill for 5+years but I can’t refinance the house because, it’s his not mine. Pueblo, Colorado. The executor of the estate, my brother. He’s gone, I don’t know where? Last face to face we had was him call me a stupid bit”” and I’m dead to him. There’s a story behind this. He moved in with just a few hours notice to me. After 2 weeks I asked “ I asked are you going to help out with the bills,electric, gas,water,laundry soap….” He said no. I’m paying him rent to live here so he owes me nothing. My daughter is terrified of my brother. She’s also afraid of dogs. My brother didn’t get why I couldn’t let him live here. I have no paperwork stating this is my house. I have paid all of the bills since 2018. This has been the family house 80+ years. It’s just my daughter and me living here and I can’t refinance loans or hire someone to fix my staircase. ( 36 years old made from 2x4s and 6x8s.) I’ve called every lawyer in southern Colorado. None of them will help unless it’s a personal injury claim. I need help. I wish I could ask my parents or big brother.🥺 It’s going to be an injury claim. The stairs go to my daughters room. I’ve done my best.
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im2weby
| 1,661,663,446 | 1,661,653,207 | 35 | 17 |
I don’t understand any of this.
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Was there a will? Was he given the house as one of the beneficiaries in the will? If there was a will, then the ownership of the home should have been done during probate. Did you receive anything from the will? It's not exactly clear from your posting but were you implying that someone got injured from going doing the staircase?
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xe99nh
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iogalmt
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iofgwpm
| 1,663,192,243 | 1,663,180,074 | 199 | 196 |
Have her take the watch off when she's in your custody.
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This isn’t a lawsuit, this is a parenting issue m. Just take the watch from your daughter when she gets to your house. You’re the parent-you dictate what electronics she has access to when she’s with you.
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xe99nh
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legaladvice_train
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iogalmt
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iofin8e
| 1,663,192,243 | 1,663,180,770 | 199 | 93 |
Have her take the watch off when she's in your custody.
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If it's truly benign on his part, ask him for access to the app, etc. when she's with him. Otherwise, I'd do as others have suggested.
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xe99nh
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legaladvice_train
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iofin8e
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iohcyu4
| 1,663,180,770 | 1,663,209,775 | 93 | 167 |
If it's truly benign on his part, ask him for access to the app, etc. when she's with him. Otherwise, I'd do as others have suggested.
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You make her take it off and leave it with dad. Anything you have like this stays at your house, and his stuff stays at his house. That's it, that's all you need to do.
| 0 | 29,005 | 1.795699 |
xe99nh
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legaladvice_train
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iohcyu4
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ioh1s7v
| 1,663,209,775 | 1,663,204,671 | 167 | 66 |
You make her take it off and leave it with dad. Anything you have like this stays at your house, and his stuff stays at his house. That's it, that's all you need to do.
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As another poster said, Pennsylvania is a two party consent state. If your ex were to introduce something from this watch in court, just go to the police in your home and explain the situation. Now, that being said. Pennsylvania's wiretap act is a hot mess that absolutely is unclear and subject to the whims of the judge, but still the police will make your ex at least answer some questions
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xe99nh
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legaladvice_train
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iohcyu4
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iogp3bq
| 1,663,209,775 | 1,663,198,910 | 167 | 38 |
You make her take it off and leave it with dad. Anything you have like this stays at your house, and his stuff stays at his house. That's it, that's all you need to do.
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I am not a lawyer in PA and not your lawyer. It is my understanding that 18 PA Cons. Stat. sec. 5703(1) makes it a third degree felony to intercept, or to get any other person to intercept, any oral communication without the consent of all parties engaged in that communication. https://casetext.com/statute/pennsylvania-statutes/consolidated-statutes/title-18-pacs-crimes-and-offenses/part-ii-definition-of-specific-offenses/article-f-offenses-against-public-order-and-decency/chapter-57-wiretapping-and-electronic-surveillance/subchapter-b-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication/section-5703-interception-disclosure-or-use-of-wire-electronic-or-oral-communications EDIT: There is also a civil action available for actual damages or liquidated damages of $100/day for each day of violation or $1,000, which ever is higher; punitive damages; and attorney’s fees. https://casetext.com/statute/pennsylvania-statutes/consolidated-statutes/title-18-pacs-crimes-and-offenses/part-ii-definition-of-specific-offenses/article-f-offenses-against-public-order-and-decency/chapter-57-wiretapping-and-electronic-surveillance/subchapter-b-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication/section-5725-civil-action-for-unlawful-interception-disclosure-or-use-of-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication’s
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xe99nh
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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ioh1s7v
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iogp3bq
| 1,663,204,671 | 1,663,198,910 | 66 | 38 |
As another poster said, Pennsylvania is a two party consent state. If your ex were to introduce something from this watch in court, just go to the police in your home and explain the situation. Now, that being said. Pennsylvania's wiretap act is a hot mess that absolutely is unclear and subject to the whims of the judge, but still the police will make your ex at least answer some questions
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I am not a lawyer in PA and not your lawyer. It is my understanding that 18 PA Cons. Stat. sec. 5703(1) makes it a third degree felony to intercept, or to get any other person to intercept, any oral communication without the consent of all parties engaged in that communication. https://casetext.com/statute/pennsylvania-statutes/consolidated-statutes/title-18-pacs-crimes-and-offenses/part-ii-definition-of-specific-offenses/article-f-offenses-against-public-order-and-decency/chapter-57-wiretapping-and-electronic-surveillance/subchapter-b-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication/section-5703-interception-disclosure-or-use-of-wire-electronic-or-oral-communications EDIT: There is also a civil action available for actual damages or liquidated damages of $100/day for each day of violation or $1,000, which ever is higher; punitive damages; and attorney’s fees. https://casetext.com/statute/pennsylvania-statutes/consolidated-statutes/title-18-pacs-crimes-and-offenses/part-ii-definition-of-specific-offenses/article-f-offenses-against-public-order-and-decency/chapter-57-wiretapping-and-electronic-surveillance/subchapter-b-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication/section-5725-civil-action-for-unlawful-interception-disclosure-or-use-of-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication’s
| 1 | 5,761 | 1.736842 |
xe99nh
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legaladvice_train
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iohhz8r
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iogp3bq
| 1,663,212,267 | 1,663,198,910 | 51 | 38 |
If it works off of wifi just blacklist the watch so it dosnt work at home
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I am not a lawyer in PA and not your lawyer. It is my understanding that 18 PA Cons. Stat. sec. 5703(1) makes it a third degree felony to intercept, or to get any other person to intercept, any oral communication without the consent of all parties engaged in that communication. https://casetext.com/statute/pennsylvania-statutes/consolidated-statutes/title-18-pacs-crimes-and-offenses/part-ii-definition-of-specific-offenses/article-f-offenses-against-public-order-and-decency/chapter-57-wiretapping-and-electronic-surveillance/subchapter-b-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication/section-5703-interception-disclosure-or-use-of-wire-electronic-or-oral-communications EDIT: There is also a civil action available for actual damages or liquidated damages of $100/day for each day of violation or $1,000, which ever is higher; punitive damages; and attorney’s fees. https://casetext.com/statute/pennsylvania-statutes/consolidated-statutes/title-18-pacs-crimes-and-offenses/part-ii-definition-of-specific-offenses/article-f-offenses-against-public-order-and-decency/chapter-57-wiretapping-and-electronic-surveillance/subchapter-b-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication/section-5725-civil-action-for-unlawful-interception-disclosure-or-use-of-wire-electronic-or-oral-communication’s
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xe99nh
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legaladvice_train
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iohp1gb
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ioi023r
| 1,663,216,130 | 1,663,223,506 | 18 | 23 |
Most judges want you to provide "reasonable phone access" to the co-parent while your child is with you. That doesn't mean 24/7 access. I got one of these watches for my son to wear at his dad's house. I didn't know this was a feature on it; now I'm paranoid my ex would use it to listen to ME so I just went and turned off the watch. Could you just turn it off while she's at your house, unless she's making a scheduled or agreed upon call?
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The watch may need to be stored so it can’t access or be accessed. Google faraday cage. Faraday pouch. They use similar tech to wrap up key fobs to prevent cloning of remote starters on cars.
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xe99nh
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legaladvice_train
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iohxuge
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ioi023r
| 1,663,221,867 | 1,663,223,506 | 3 | 23 |
A Faraday box could also be a place to store the phone if privacy is a serious concern.
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The watch may need to be stored so it can’t access or be accessed. Google faraday cage. Faraday pouch. They use similar tech to wrap up key fobs to prevent cloning of remote starters on cars.
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xe99nh
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legaladvice_train
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Concerned that my daughter’s father is effectively spying on my household by means of a SmartWatch he gave her Posted this in r/custody as this relates to an upcoming custody battle, but now I’m really wondering if there’s a separate lawsuit somewhere in here: Daughter’s father gave her a TickTalk SmartWatch to wear when she’s at my house. This watch, along with being able to track our every move, is equipped with a feature called “Super Hearing” which allows the parent controlling the watch to call it remotely, answer the call, and listen in on what’s going on around the watch without the child or anyone else around her knowing. I am very concerned as this seems like an enormous invasion of privacy for everyone in my household as he could be listening in at anytime without our knowledge or consent. This feature called “Super Hearing” is mentioned on the watch’s product website, buried deep in the FAQ’s and is referred to as something to be used for safety and emergencies and with all applicable parties’ consent. I live in PA and he lives in NJ. What, if anything, can I do in this situation where I feel like I am effectively being spied on by means of this SmartWatch?
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iohxuge
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iok2y1f
| 1,663,221,867 | 1,663,263,543 | 3 | 5 |
A Faraday box could also be a place to store the phone if privacy is a serious concern.
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Put it in a soundproof but not signal proof box with Baby Shark or fart noises on a loop.
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d079en
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Made direct contact with a bat that may or may not have had rabies and started treatment. Filed workers comp and the claim was denied. What are my next steps? I came into direct contact with a bat on my work property last Wednesday (8/28). I started treatment for post-rabies exposure per the recommendation of the local health department and the ER I visited for the first initial shot. Now I am being told my claim is being denied because there wasn’t a “visible” bite, even though I was told by both the health department and the ER that they aren’t always noticeable or detectable. What are my next options? Is it even worth trying to fight? I know I should’ve gotten the shots regardless of who paid for them but the idea of being thousands of dollars in medical debt for them is making me very anxious. I live in Arizona.
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ez7eo8d
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ez77c1d
| 1,567,722,596 | 1,567,719,839 | 21 | 5 |
Go over to r/insurance. The person making this decision is not a doctor. Bat bites can be incredibly tiny, and since the virus is spread through the nerves, not the blood system, there doesn't have to be any bloodshed for the infection to have been passed. The number one cause of rabies infections in humans in the US is bat bites. (The number two is bites from rabid dogs while traveling abroad.) https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/exposure/type.html
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This is not exactly legal advice, but here is help for the costs Programs for Uninsured and Underinsured Patients
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d079en
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legaladvice_train
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Made direct contact with a bat that may or may not have had rabies and started treatment. Filed workers comp and the claim was denied. What are my next steps? I came into direct contact with a bat on my work property last Wednesday (8/28). I started treatment for post-rabies exposure per the recommendation of the local health department and the ER I visited for the first initial shot. Now I am being told my claim is being denied because there wasn’t a “visible” bite, even though I was told by both the health department and the ER that they aren’t always noticeable or detectable. What are my next options? Is it even worth trying to fight? I know I should’ve gotten the shots regardless of who paid for them but the idea of being thousands of dollars in medical debt for them is making me very anxious. I live in Arizona.
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ez77c1d
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ez89qhd
| 1,567,719,839 | 1,567,737,615 | 5 | 6 |
This is not exactly legal advice, but here is help for the costs Programs for Uninsured and Underinsured Patients
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Not a lawyer but pharmacist who works in an ER/hospital ... You always treat if you come in contact with a bat doesn't matter. The bites can be invisible and rabies has a 99.9% fatality rate.. I'd post in the insurance sub as well
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bvgh3s
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I went away for two weeks, and my landlord allowed friends and family into my home to stay for a total of four days. I have video and audio recording which is probably not legal where I am. What's my next step? NSW/Australia To preface, I was once victim of a home invasion by a relative that would have been much better prosecuted if I'd had camera evidence, so I've been paranoid ever since. I have hidden cameras throughout my home that detect movement and foreign-object based video & audio 24/7, stored on a server on the premises. Every room and the front verandah and back yard is covered. This week I came back from two weeks away and found my landlord allowed two separate groups of people into my home to stay, one group was his family members and the other his friends. They were given keys, and they all knew they were staying in a home the landlord was renting to someone else (me) because he warned them about it and to leave everything as it was. One of the groups was doing highly illegal activities involving hard drugs, and my home had these drugs stored in it for a time. The recordings allow clear identification of most of these people by name, their vehicles, and their relation to the landlord. I've already confronted my landlord about people being let into my home while I was away, and he's denied it. I didn't let him know how I knew. I already have plans to move out and this will involve breaking a lease with three months left on it which I'll gladly do. I'm pretty sure these video recordings with audio are illegal here. Can I get in trouble if I admit even to a lawyer I've hired that I have them, or would a lawyer be a good safe start? Is the illegality in the recording, or in the listening, or in the sharing, or all of it?
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epp64qm
| 1,559,366,400 | 1,559,365,494 | 225 | 112 |
well a quick google search shows that it's generally not illegal to record in public in australia. considering you have recordings in your home and i'm assuming that everyone who lives in that home knows of the recordings, then it should be LEGAL. "It is legal to install surveillance cameras on your property, but not in bathrooms or bedrooms without the consent of the person being filmed."
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Probably depends on how far you want to take it and what you want out of it. First: do you lease a whole house/separate property or distinct apartment or do you lease a room in a house/property/apartment? Who can go where and when is very different if you only lease a room as opposed to a full standalone property/house/apartment. ​ If you lease a clearly distinct property/house/apartment then what the landlord did is clearly against the tenancy agreement. ​ Next there's levels of escalation, how mad are you? how far do you want to take it? what do you want as an outcome? This site goes through your options broadly: https://www.tenants.org.au/factsheet-08-access-and-privacy ​ If you have somewhere else to go and are willing to put the time and effort, you can report the trespassing to the police and see if they are willing to press charges against the landlord and guests. You will probably want to consult with a lawyer in terms of how you can prove that the landlord did this and how to best manage the situation, especially around what you can and can't record, generally if you're not sharing the property (i.e. just renting a room) then you can record stuff for your own purposes and security, if it's a shared area or you're recording someone else's private areas (i.e. you've got a camera in your house that looks on to a neighbour's window or if you only rent a room and it's looking in to a shared bathroom) then you need to get some legal advice. The other complicating factor that you want to discuss with a lawyer is the illegal substances aspect. You don't want the police somehow deciding that it was your illegal substance or that you had anything to do with those activities, so don't dob in the landlord and friends only to get yourself in trouble. ​ If you just want out of the lease (probably best way to protect yourself and least amount of drama) you can break the lease and give the reason as breach of agreement. This is probably the minimum you should do. You can't trust the landlord and this person does not appear to be upholding the laws and agreement that protects you as a tenant. This is not somewhere you want to live and store your things. As a tenant you have the right to have sole possession of the property you're leasing(assuming you're not just renting a room in a house), that means the landlord can't let other people in unless it's to fix things and they have to give proper notice. If the landlord fights you and tries to charge you fees, etc. then that's when you start going in to specifics as to why and may have to end up in tribunal and present your evidence. https://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/housing-and-property/renting/ending-a-tenancy ​ Even if you are just renting a room, you have rights in terms of your own room, and it gets complicated about shared areas, definitely talk to tenant advocacy or a lawyer. ​ You could potentially ask for money back from your rent as you paid rent for the two weeks and they used your house for that time, but that's something you'd want to talk to a lawyer or tenancy advocacy service and also do a bit of research about. ​ If you want to take it a bit further you can make a complaint about the landlord. What they did is very illegal and very wrong, this is a step down from calling the police but you probably wouldn't need a lawyer and having a tribunal decision go against the landlord would cause them to rethink their practices and not sure about NSW but should have some sort of consequences in terms of fines, bans or getting their name on a bad landlord register: https://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/housing-and-property/renting/resolving-rental-problems ​ No matter what, you have to be prepared to move out, argue for your bond, rent paid, and any refunds. There's a lot of help out there and you have a choice in how far you want to take things but inform yourself of what each step means and what it will require in terms of your time, proof and how to best argue your side and what you can and can't do. For example you can't just show up at a tribunal and expect it to be a trial and have that be the first time you raise that you have cameras and caught your landlord doing illegal activities. This isn't a US law tv show, there's set processes for accusing people and providing evidence to back up your accusations. ​ LAST BIT: if you only want to go down the tenancy dispute track, make sure you keep the issues separate (trespassing/breach of agreement and illegal activity), Fair trading won't step in to the issue about the illegal activity, it only provides a voluntary mediation service that will try and come up with a solution between you and the landlord, it's not going to put the landlord in jail or anything like that. You will need to get advice about the best way to navigate this, you may not be able to clearly separate the two or it may not be in your particular interest.
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[NSW, Australia] Need to get out of home ASAP. Don't have tax file number, don't have birth certificate. Need to get far away quickly, have a few hundred in cash. What do I do? I turned 18 a couple days ago. It's no longer safe for me to remain at home. My mum's destroyed my birth certificate to prevent me getting TFN and a job. I have about $600 cash, and $3500 in bank but my mum's cosigned on my account so I probably can't access any of it. I pretty much have no life skills but I'm a fast learner, and physically fit so I can probably cover a large distance with that $600. I need to get my birth certificate replaced, then I can get a TFN and a job, then I should be alright. If possible I'd like to get out of the state, maybe get to Melbourne or Adelaide. Problem is I've got basically nothing in the way of proof of ID, just my student ID from school, mum took my medicare card and I never could apply for a driver's license. I should be able to get out Monday night or real early Tuesday morning. What should I do from here?
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Once you get your paperwork, can you get a job on a cruise ship or somewhere else that offers housing & food?
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You can get your own Medicare card once you hit 15 so you wont have to be linked to your parents. Also go into the bank and open a new account and transfer your money there, I saw you mentioned a credit card in your name above. Ask them to close it while you are at the bank. Check the oaic website for how to lock your credit, initially it will only be locked for 21 days but you can request for it to be locked for longer. Good luck.
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[NSW, Australia] Need to get out of home ASAP. Don't have tax file number, don't have birth certificate. Need to get far away quickly, have a few hundred in cash. What do I do? I turned 18 a couple days ago. It's no longer safe for me to remain at home. My mum's destroyed my birth certificate to prevent me getting TFN and a job. I have about $600 cash, and $3500 in bank but my mum's cosigned on my account so I probably can't access any of it. I pretty much have no life skills but I'm a fast learner, and physically fit so I can probably cover a large distance with that $600. I need to get my birth certificate replaced, then I can get a TFN and a job, then I should be alright. If possible I'd like to get out of the state, maybe get to Melbourne or Adelaide. Problem is I've got basically nothing in the way of proof of ID, just my student ID from school, mum took my medicare card and I never could apply for a driver's license. I should be able to get out Monday night or real early Tuesday morning. What should I do from here?
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With ID, you should be able to get the money out of the bank account you share. I would think just because she's a cosigner that you can still take your own money back. Be careful about this so she doesn't know your plans until you can get the money. Go to the bank in person and talk to an officer (someone at a desk) about removing some or all of the money. Then put it in the other bank account. Keep very little on you in case she finds it and tries to take it back. Good luck!
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Once you get your paperwork, can you get a job on a cruise ship or somewhere else that offers housing & food?
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[NSW, Australia] Need to get out of home ASAP. Don't have tax file number, don't have birth certificate. Need to get far away quickly, have a few hundred in cash. What do I do? I turned 18 a couple days ago. It's no longer safe for me to remain at home. My mum's destroyed my birth certificate to prevent me getting TFN and a job. I have about $600 cash, and $3500 in bank but my mum's cosigned on my account so I probably can't access any of it. I pretty much have no life skills but I'm a fast learner, and physically fit so I can probably cover a large distance with that $600. I need to get my birth certificate replaced, then I can get a TFN and a job, then I should be alright. If possible I'd like to get out of the state, maybe get to Melbourne or Adelaide. Problem is I've got basically nothing in the way of proof of ID, just my student ID from school, mum took my medicare card and I never could apply for a driver's license. I should be able to get out Monday night or real early Tuesday morning. What should I do from here?
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When you get out of town, try and stay in youth hostels rather than homeless shelters. There are plenty of nasty folk looking for victims. Youth hostels are great for meeting people, finding casual work and people to share with. If you can find out what hostels are popular with people on working holiday visas, that way you can be with people looking for the basics (job/apartment/new friends). Do not tell everyone your story. Only when you become good friends, do not become a victim. If you need to save up decent money look at working at the mines, they normally pay for your housing and bills as well as good rates of pay even as a cleaner.....my advice for life is, don't drink alcohol every day and never touch heroine, crack and meth. Good luck
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With ID, you should be able to get the money out of the bank account you share. I would think just because she's a cosigner that you can still take your own money back. Be careful about this so she doesn't know your plans until you can get the money. Go to the bank in person and talk to an officer (someone at a desk) about removing some or all of the money. Then put it in the other bank account. Keep very little on you in case she finds it and tries to take it back. Good luck!
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[NSW, Australia] Need to get out of home ASAP. Don't have tax file number, don't have birth certificate. Need to get far away quickly, have a few hundred in cash. What do I do? I turned 18 a couple days ago. It's no longer safe for me to remain at home. My mum's destroyed my birth certificate to prevent me getting TFN and a job. I have about $600 cash, and $3500 in bank but my mum's cosigned on my account so I probably can't access any of it. I pretty much have no life skills but I'm a fast learner, and physically fit so I can probably cover a large distance with that $600. I need to get my birth certificate replaced, then I can get a TFN and a job, then I should be alright. If possible I'd like to get out of the state, maybe get to Melbourne or Adelaide. Problem is I've got basically nothing in the way of proof of ID, just my student ID from school, mum took my medicare card and I never could apply for a driver's license. I should be able to get out Monday night or real early Tuesday morning. What should I do from here?
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When you get out of town, try and stay in youth hostels rather than homeless shelters. There are plenty of nasty folk looking for victims. Youth hostels are great for meeting people, finding casual work and people to share with. If you can find out what hostels are popular with people on working holiday visas, that way you can be with people looking for the basics (job/apartment/new friends). Do not tell everyone your story. Only when you become good friends, do not become a victim. If you need to save up decent money look at working at the mines, they normally pay for your housing and bills as well as good rates of pay even as a cleaner.....my advice for life is, don't drink alcohol every day and never touch heroine, crack and meth. Good luck
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Even though you have graduated, your university might be able to directly connect you to supportive crises resources. That’s how it is in the US at least. Schools have counselors who know how to manage these kinds of situations...using shelters, job placement, legal support etc. Connecting to just one official at school or in government - a person who is knowledgeable about the specific resources near you, could be your ticket to getting out quickly.
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[NSW, Australia] Need to get out of home ASAP. Don't have tax file number, don't have birth certificate. Need to get far away quickly, have a few hundred in cash. What do I do? I turned 18 a couple days ago. It's no longer safe for me to remain at home. My mum's destroyed my birth certificate to prevent me getting TFN and a job. I have about $600 cash, and $3500 in bank but my mum's cosigned on my account so I probably can't access any of it. I pretty much have no life skills but I'm a fast learner, and physically fit so I can probably cover a large distance with that $600. I need to get my birth certificate replaced, then I can get a TFN and a job, then I should be alright. If possible I'd like to get out of the state, maybe get to Melbourne or Adelaide. Problem is I've got basically nothing in the way of proof of ID, just my student ID from school, mum took my medicare card and I never could apply for a driver's license. I should be able to get out Monday night or real early Tuesday morning. What should I do from here?
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When you get out of town, try and stay in youth hostels rather than homeless shelters. There are plenty of nasty folk looking for victims. Youth hostels are great for meeting people, finding casual work and people to share with. If you can find out what hostels are popular with people on working holiday visas, that way you can be with people looking for the basics (job/apartment/new friends). Do not tell everyone your story. Only when you become good friends, do not become a victim. If you need to save up decent money look at working at the mines, they normally pay for your housing and bills as well as good rates of pay even as a cleaner.....my advice for life is, don't drink alcohol every day and never touch heroine, crack and meth. Good luck
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INAL, ​ Perhaps others here can chime in on covering yourself for retaliation by your mother as "harm to oneself or others". If you leave and empty the bank account your mother may try something involving the police to bring you back home. ​ Also be cautious of where you land, major cities can have folks looking to recruit runaways into a variety of unsavory items.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6omogm
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If the plant was on your porch, I would ask them to cover the cost of replacing the plant. The dog was trespassing when he stole/destroyed your plant, correct? You are the one who needs to be made whole, not them.
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Calgary and Edmonton are both cities that require dogs to be leashed in public spaces. You can check your specific town (if you live somewhere else in Alberta) though but it’s pretty common to have a leash ordinance. So with that their demand is absolutely absurd since it is not your duty to prevent their uncontrolled dog from doing something stupid. You should not have a problem defending against it in any court if they come up with some form of argument (like if they somehow try to argue that you baited their dogs - which is also absurd since you just set your house plants on your porch for the afternoon). As stressful as this might be for you - I personally can’t help but think about how this would go in small claims - he’s going testify in a court of law to a judge that a) he is negligent in care of his dog as there are many dangers in the world for an off leash dog, b) violated the leash ordinance as most jurisdictions have one, c) his dog caused property damage during trespass. After all of that he’s then going to ask the judge to award him damages. Do you have any televised judges in Alberta?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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Calgary and Edmonton are both cities that require dogs to be leashed in public spaces. You can check your specific town (if you live somewhere else in Alberta) though but it’s pretty common to have a leash ordinance. So with that their demand is absolutely absurd since it is not your duty to prevent their uncontrolled dog from doing something stupid. You should not have a problem defending against it in any court if they come up with some form of argument (like if they somehow try to argue that you baited their dogs - which is also absurd since you just set your house plants on your porch for the afternoon). As stressful as this might be for you - I personally can’t help but think about how this would go in small claims - he’s going testify in a court of law to a judge that a) he is negligent in care of his dog as there are many dangers in the world for an off leash dog, b) violated the leash ordinance as most jurisdictions have one, c) his dog caused property damage during trespass. After all of that he’s then going to ask the judge to award him damages. Do you have any televised judges in Alberta?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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Calgary and Edmonton are both cities that require dogs to be leashed in public spaces. You can check your specific town (if you live somewhere else in Alberta) though but it’s pretty common to have a leash ordinance. So with that their demand is absolutely absurd since it is not your duty to prevent their uncontrolled dog from doing something stupid. You should not have a problem defending against it in any court if they come up with some form of argument (like if they somehow try to argue that you baited their dogs - which is also absurd since you just set your house plants on your porch for the afternoon). As stressful as this might be for you - I personally can’t help but think about how this would go in small claims - he’s going testify in a court of law to a judge that a) he is negligent in care of his dog as there are many dangers in the world for an off leash dog, b) violated the leash ordinance as most jurisdictions have one, c) his dog caused property damage during trespass. After all of that he’s then going to ask the judge to award him damages. Do you have any televised judges in Alberta?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Calgary and Edmonton are both cities that require dogs to be leashed in public spaces. You can check your specific town (if you live somewhere else in Alberta) though but it’s pretty common to have a leash ordinance. So with that their demand is absolutely absurd since it is not your duty to prevent their uncontrolled dog from doing something stupid. You should not have a problem defending against it in any court if they come up with some form of argument (like if they somehow try to argue that you baited their dogs - which is also absurd since you just set your house plants on your porch for the afternoon). As stressful as this might be for you - I personally can’t help but think about how this would go in small claims - he’s going testify in a court of law to a judge that a) he is negligent in care of his dog as there are many dangers in the world for an off leash dog, b) violated the leash ordinance as most jurisdictions have one, c) his dog caused property damage during trespass. After all of that he’s then going to ask the judge to award him damages. Do you have any televised judges in Alberta?
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6ojxqu
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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If the plant was on your porch, I would ask them to cover the cost of replacing the plant. The dog was trespassing when he stole/destroyed your plant, correct? You are the one who needs to be made whole, not them.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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The emotional damage claim is the cherry on top that he doesn't he doesn't know what he's talking about and/or expects you not to. If he let his dogs run loose, they could have died to anything. It just happened to be your plants. There was no reasonable expectation that his dogs would eat your plants, and he had every opportunity to control his dogs and chose not to. If he sues you, go to court and watch as the judge tells him off. He's got no case. Let this be a lesson to him that if he's going to spend so much money on a dog (or even have a dog to begin with), he should take better care of his things. If he chooses not to, no one else has to take the consequences for him.
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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Do not respond to them anymore. Do not give them a cent. Most areas have dog leash laws. I would look up to see what’s in your area as that would be a nail in the coffin of any lawsuit. Others are correct that a dog coming on to your property and destroying it will have a judge rolling their eyes. People have poisonous plants for dogs everywhere. People use cocoa mulch and can’t get sued. This is a case of a wandering unsupervised dog (these kids were not old enough to supervise an unleashed dog). As a dog owner, these people suck, and the poor dog didn’t deserve their neglect. *edited
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Further to the above, your neighbours will have to allege that there is a law or ordinance that prevents homeowners from planting non-edible plants like the sago palm. Is it toxic to humans when ingested? Is it prohibited like weed? Is its existence can be considered a nuisance per se? If not, your irresponsible, reckless and negligent neighbours have no valid claim to stand on.
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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Nal- however if the dog was unleashed on public property it is the dogs owner responsibility to keep an eye of their dog on a leash. I would be asking for replacement of the plant and for possible future incidents with your neighbor, install security cameras around your property, particularly by the neighbor who thinks this is your fault they didn't keep their dog and children under their care.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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They have no claim. If they do sue, and they wont win, I would would file a counter claim for the cost of the plants their dog destroyed, they are after all responsible for his actions.
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Your homeowners/renters insurance most likely covers some of this and/or defending you if they do take legal action.
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Not a lawyer: Sounds like an uncontrolled dog trespassed and damaged your property. Sorry for their loss, but the dog just as easily could have suffered the same fate by eating a bowl of grapes off your patio. This isn’t about your plants, it’s about their negligence.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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If the plant was on your porch, I would ask them to cover the cost of replacing the plant. The dog was trespassing when he stole/destroyed your plant, correct? You are the one who needs to be made whole, not them.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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If the plant was on your porch, I would ask them to cover the cost of replacing the plant. The dog was trespassing when he stole/destroyed your plant, correct? You are the one who needs to be made whole, not them.
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Do not respond to them anymore. Do not give them a cent. Most areas have dog leash laws. I would look up to see what’s in your area as that would be a nail in the coffin of any lawsuit. Others are correct that a dog coming on to your property and destroying it will have a judge rolling their eyes. People have poisonous plants for dogs everywhere. People use cocoa mulch and can’t get sued. This is a case of a wandering unsupervised dog (these kids were not old enough to supervise an unleashed dog). As a dog owner, these people suck, and the poor dog didn’t deserve their neglect. *edited
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The emotional damage claim is the cherry on top that he doesn't he doesn't know what he's talking about and/or expects you not to. If he let his dogs run loose, they could have died to anything. It just happened to be your plants. There was no reasonable expectation that his dogs would eat your plants, and he had every opportunity to control his dogs and chose not to. If he sues you, go to court and watch as the judge tells him off. He's got no case. Let this be a lesson to him that if he's going to spend so much money on a dog (or even have a dog to begin with), he should take better care of his things. If he chooses not to, no one else has to take the consequences for him.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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The emotional damage claim is the cherry on top that he doesn't he doesn't know what he's talking about and/or expects you not to. If he let his dogs run loose, they could have died to anything. It just happened to be your plants. There was no reasonable expectation that his dogs would eat your plants, and he had every opportunity to control his dogs and chose not to. If he sues you, go to court and watch as the judge tells him off. He's got no case. Let this be a lesson to him that if he's going to spend so much money on a dog (or even have a dog to begin with), he should take better care of his things. If he chooses not to, no one else has to take the consequences for him.
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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The emotional damage claim is the cherry on top that he doesn't he doesn't know what he's talking about and/or expects you not to. If he let his dogs run loose, they could have died to anything. It just happened to be your plants. There was no reasonable expectation that his dogs would eat your plants, and he had every opportunity to control his dogs and chose not to. If he sues you, go to court and watch as the judge tells him off. He's got no case. Let this be a lesson to him that if he's going to spend so much money on a dog (or even have a dog to begin with), he should take better care of his things. If he chooses not to, no one else has to take the consequences for him.
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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The emotional damage claim is the cherry on top that he doesn't he doesn't know what he's talking about and/or expects you not to. If he let his dogs run loose, they could have died to anything. It just happened to be your plants. There was no reasonable expectation that his dogs would eat your plants, and he had every opportunity to control his dogs and chose not to. If he sues you, go to court and watch as the judge tells him off. He's got no case. Let this be a lesson to him that if he's going to spend so much money on a dog (or even have a dog to begin with), he should take better care of his things. If he chooses not to, no one else has to take the consequences for him.
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Further to the above, your neighbours will have to allege that there is a law or ordinance that prevents homeowners from planting non-edible plants like the sago palm. Is it toxic to humans when ingested? Is it prohibited like weed? Is its existence can be considered a nuisance per se? If not, your irresponsible, reckless and negligent neighbours have no valid claim to stand on.
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The emotional damage claim is the cherry on top that he doesn't he doesn't know what he's talking about and/or expects you not to. If he let his dogs run loose, they could have died to anything. It just happened to be your plants. There was no reasonable expectation that his dogs would eat your plants, and he had every opportunity to control his dogs and chose not to. If he sues you, go to court and watch as the judge tells him off. He's got no case. Let this be a lesson to him that if he's going to spend so much money on a dog (or even have a dog to begin with), he should take better care of his things. If he chooses not to, no one else has to take the consequences for him.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Do not respond to them anymore. Do not give them a cent. Most areas have dog leash laws. I would look up to see what’s in your area as that would be a nail in the coffin of any lawsuit. Others are correct that a dog coming on to your property and destroying it will have a judge rolling their eyes. People have poisonous plants for dogs everywhere. People use cocoa mulch and can’t get sued. This is a case of a wandering unsupervised dog (these kids were not old enough to supervise an unleashed dog). As a dog owner, these people suck, and the poor dog didn’t deserve their neglect. *edited
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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Do not respond to them anymore. Do not give them a cent. Most areas have dog leash laws. I would look up to see what’s in your area as that would be a nail in the coffin of any lawsuit. Others are correct that a dog coming on to your property and destroying it will have a judge rolling their eyes. People have poisonous plants for dogs everywhere. People use cocoa mulch and can’t get sued. This is a case of a wandering unsupervised dog (these kids were not old enough to supervise an unleashed dog). As a dog owner, these people suck, and the poor dog didn’t deserve their neglect. *edited
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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Do not respond to them anymore. Do not give them a cent. Most areas have dog leash laws. I would look up to see what’s in your area as that would be a nail in the coffin of any lawsuit. Others are correct that a dog coming on to your property and destroying it will have a judge rolling their eyes. People have poisonous plants for dogs everywhere. People use cocoa mulch and can’t get sued. This is a case of a wandering unsupervised dog (these kids were not old enough to supervise an unleashed dog). As a dog owner, these people suck, and the poor dog didn’t deserve their neglect. *edited
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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While the Canadian legal advice subreddit is probably the place to go, your answer is relatively straightforward. 1- if you are served with an application (in this case it would go to small claims), you must respond. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the claim, if you don’t respond you are deemed to be admitting their claim and they will get a default judgment. 2- you should get a lawyer to review it, but you probably don’t need to because their claims will fail. 3- however you should contact your home owner’s insurance who will defend you if sued. 4- for the overall liability, their dog is required to be on leash in public. This is their failing; the loss of the dog is their responsibility. Especially since they failed to control it / it ate a plant on your porch. 5- replacing the dog isn’t your responsibility, but the amount is almost certainly less than the value of a new puppy - it is the value of the dog (based on age, training, etc). 6- Canada almost never does emotional damages, and this is an especially losing argument. Without getting into the details: just no.
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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Further to the above, your neighbours will have to allege that there is a law or ordinance that prevents homeowners from planting non-edible plants like the sago palm. Is it toxic to humans when ingested? Is it prohibited like weed? Is its existence can be considered a nuisance per se? If not, your irresponsible, reckless and negligent neighbours have no valid claim to stand on.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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Nal- however if the dog was unleashed on public property it is the dogs owner responsibility to keep an eye of their dog on a leash. I would be asking for replacement of the plant and for possible future incidents with your neighbor, install security cameras around your property, particularly by the neighbor who thinks this is your fault they didn't keep their dog and children under their care.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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They have no claim. If they do sue, and they wont win, I would would file a counter claim for the cost of the plants their dog destroyed, they are after all responsible for his actions.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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You don't owe them shit. You didn't ask for their dog to be on your property, you didn't invite the dog over, you didn't say your property was safe for dogs. This is 100% on them for being irresponsible with their dog. You are just dealing with some childish, uneducated dummies who think they are the shit cause they have an expensive dog.
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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Did you take any photos of where the plant was when the dog got into it? If you have any communications with them where they admit the dog was off leash, it might be very useful in proving which party was negligent. I would take as many photos as you can that contextualizes how far into your property an animal would need to have gone to access the plant, and have any communications between you and them happen via email or something documentable.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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Your homeowners/renters insurance most likely covers some of this and/or defending you if they do take legal action.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Sago palm are very popular and not illegal. You have zero liability here. They need to control their own animals. Ignore them and block any communications from them. If they harass you then keep reporting it to the police. Only respond to a summons from a court. If they sue you then show up and they will lose. If they damaged your sago palm then they actually owe you money to replace it.
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I am not a lawyer, but your Homeowner's insurance may cover this. Although they really don't have a case, they could still sue and you would have to hire an attorney, etc. If your homeowner's insurance covers this, your insurance company will pay a lawyer to handle it.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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Further to the above, your neighbours will have to allege that there is a law or ordinance that prevents homeowners from planting non-edible plants like the sago palm. Is it toxic to humans when ingested? Is it prohibited like weed? Is its existence can be considered a nuisance per se? If not, your irresponsible, reckless and negligent neighbours have no valid claim to stand on.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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Nal- however if the dog was unleashed on public property it is the dogs owner responsibility to keep an eye of their dog on a leash. I would be asking for replacement of the plant and for possible future incidents with your neighbor, install security cameras around your property, particularly by the neighbor who thinks this is your fault they didn't keep their dog and children under their care.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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They have no claim. If they do sue, and they wont win, I would would file a counter claim for the cost of the plants their dog destroyed, they are after all responsible for his actions.
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It is the responsibility of the dog owner to monitor their dog. They did not. He came to your house and ate your plant. Now he is dead. No one is at fault for the dog's death but the dog owners and the dog who was not on a leash and not trained to not eat plants. It is not your responsibility to make sure every unleashed dog doesn't eat plants, especially because most cities and towns have leash laws that would have prevented the dog from trespassing on your property. You additionally sound like you were living there first so they don't even have a tradition/schedule that you interrupted to stand on with that "I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place". He may try to claim attractive nuisance claim but that only applies to humans. He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Tell him to try complying to the leash law next time and to stay off your property.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6ohxr4
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6p44l2
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Further to the above, your neighbours will have to allege that there is a law or ordinance that prevents homeowners from planting non-edible plants like the sago palm. Is it toxic to humans when ingested? Is it prohibited like weed? Is its existence can be considered a nuisance per se? If not, your irresponsible, reckless and negligent neighbours have no valid claim to stand on.
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Nal- however if the dog was unleashed on public property it is the dogs owner responsibility to keep an eye of their dog on a leash. I would be asking for replacement of the plant and for possible future incidents with your neighbor, install security cameras around your property, particularly by the neighbor who thinks this is your fault they didn't keep their dog and children under their care.
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6p44l2
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They have no claim. If they do sue, and they wont win, I would would file a counter claim for the cost of the plants their dog destroyed, they are after all responsible for his actions.
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Contact your homeowners insurance -- they have an obligation to defend you against claims, but you likely have an obligation to tell them about potential claims. You don't want these people to sue you and for your insurer to say "you should have told us about this earlier, so we're not defending you."
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6pxmfe
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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While the Canadian legal advice subreddit is probably the place to go, your answer is relatively straightforward. 1- if you are served with an application (in this case it would go to small claims), you must respond. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the claim, if you don’t respond you are deemed to be admitting their claim and they will get a default judgment. 2- you should get a lawyer to review it, but you probably don’t need to because their claims will fail. 3- however you should contact your home owner’s insurance who will defend you if sued. 4- for the overall liability, their dog is required to be on leash in public. This is their failing; the loss of the dog is their responsibility. Especially since they failed to control it / it ate a plant on your porch. 5- replacing the dog isn’t your responsibility, but the amount is almost certainly less than the value of a new puppy - it is the value of the dog (based on age, training, etc). 6- Canada almost never does emotional damages, and this is an especially losing argument. Without getting into the details: just no.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6ohchf
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Not a lawyer but I think their only recourse would be to sue you in small claims court. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re served and then definitely attend if served but in small claims court they’d have to explain why they think having their dogs off leash means the entire neighbour hood must protect their dogs when they don’t
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6okaep
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While the Canadian legal advice subreddit is probably the place to go, your answer is relatively straightforward. 1- if you are served with an application (in this case it would go to small claims), you must respond. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the claim, if you don’t respond you are deemed to be admitting their claim and they will get a default judgment. 2- you should get a lawyer to review it, but you probably don’t need to because their claims will fail. 3- however you should contact your home owner’s insurance who will defend you if sued. 4- for the overall liability, their dog is required to be on leash in public. This is their failing; the loss of the dog is their responsibility. Especially since they failed to control it / it ate a plant on your porch. 5- replacing the dog isn’t your responsibility, but the amount is almost certainly less than the value of a new puppy - it is the value of the dog (based on age, training, etc). 6- Canada almost never does emotional damages, and this is an especially losing argument. Without getting into the details: just no.
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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While the Canadian legal advice subreddit is probably the place to go, your answer is relatively straightforward. 1- if you are served with an application (in this case it would go to small claims), you must respond. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the claim, if you don’t respond you are deemed to be admitting their claim and they will get a default judgment. 2- you should get a lawyer to review it, but you probably don’t need to because their claims will fail. 3- however you should contact your home owner’s insurance who will defend you if sued. 4- for the overall liability, their dog is required to be on leash in public. This is their failing; the loss of the dog is their responsibility. Especially since they failed to control it / it ate a plant on your porch. 5- replacing the dog isn’t your responsibility, but the amount is almost certainly less than the value of a new puppy - it is the value of the dog (based on age, training, etc). 6- Canada almost never does emotional damages, and this is an especially losing argument. Without getting into the details: just no.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Further to the above, your neighbours will have to allege that there is a law or ordinance that prevents homeowners from planting non-edible plants like the sago palm. Is it toxic to humans when ingested? Is it prohibited like weed? Is its existence can be considered a nuisance per se? If not, your irresponsible, reckless and negligent neighbours have no valid claim to stand on.
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While the Canadian legal advice subreddit is probably the place to go, your answer is relatively straightforward. 1- if you are served with an application (in this case it would go to small claims), you must respond. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the claim, if you don’t respond you are deemed to be admitting their claim and they will get a default judgment. 2- you should get a lawyer to review it, but you probably don’t need to because their claims will fail. 3- however you should contact your home owner’s insurance who will defend you if sued. 4- for the overall liability, their dog is required to be on leash in public. This is their failing; the loss of the dog is their responsibility. Especially since they failed to control it / it ate a plant on your porch. 5- replacing the dog isn’t your responsibility, but the amount is almost certainly less than the value of a new puppy - it is the value of the dog (based on age, training, etc). 6- Canada almost never does emotional damages, and this is an especially losing argument. Without getting into the details: just no.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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While the Canadian legal advice subreddit is probably the place to go, your answer is relatively straightforward. 1- if you are served with an application (in this case it would go to small claims), you must respond. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the claim, if you don’t respond you are deemed to be admitting their claim and they will get a default judgment. 2- you should get a lawyer to review it, but you probably don’t need to because their claims will fail. 3- however you should contact your home owner’s insurance who will defend you if sued. 4- for the overall liability, their dog is required to be on leash in public. This is their failing; the loss of the dog is their responsibility. Especially since they failed to control it / it ate a plant on your porch. 5- replacing the dog isn’t your responsibility, but the amount is almost certainly less than the value of a new puppy - it is the value of the dog (based on age, training, etc). 6- Canada almost never does emotional damages, and this is an especially losing argument. Without getting into the details: just no.
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Nal- however if the dog was unleashed on public property it is the dogs owner responsibility to keep an eye of their dog on a leash. I would be asking for replacement of the plant and for possible future incidents with your neighbor, install security cameras around your property, particularly by the neighbor who thinks this is your fault they didn't keep their dog and children under their care.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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While the Canadian legal advice subreddit is probably the place to go, your answer is relatively straightforward. 1- if you are served with an application (in this case it would go to small claims), you must respond. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the claim, if you don’t respond you are deemed to be admitting their claim and they will get a default judgment. 2- you should get a lawyer to review it, but you probably don’t need to because their claims will fail. 3- however you should contact your home owner’s insurance who will defend you if sued. 4- for the overall liability, their dog is required to be on leash in public. This is their failing; the loss of the dog is their responsibility. Especially since they failed to control it / it ate a plant on your porch. 5- replacing the dog isn’t your responsibility, but the amount is almost certainly less than the value of a new puppy - it is the value of the dog (based on age, training, etc). 6- Canada almost never does emotional damages, and this is an especially losing argument. Without getting into the details: just no.
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They have no claim. If they do sue, and they wont win, I would would file a counter claim for the cost of the plants their dog destroyed, they are after all responsible for his actions.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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While the Canadian legal advice subreddit is probably the place to go, your answer is relatively straightforward. 1- if you are served with an application (in this case it would go to small claims), you must respond. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the claim, if you don’t respond you are deemed to be admitting their claim and they will get a default judgment. 2- you should get a lawyer to review it, but you probably don’t need to because their claims will fail. 3- however you should contact your home owner’s insurance who will defend you if sued. 4- for the overall liability, their dog is required to be on leash in public. This is their failing; the loss of the dog is their responsibility. Especially since they failed to control it / it ate a plant on your porch. 5- replacing the dog isn’t your responsibility, but the amount is almost certainly less than the value of a new puppy - it is the value of the dog (based on age, training, etc). 6- Canada almost never does emotional damages, and this is an especially losing argument. Without getting into the details: just no.
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Your homeowners/renters insurance most likely covers some of this and/or defending you if they do take legal action.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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Further to the above, your neighbours will have to allege that there is a law or ordinance that prevents homeowners from planting non-edible plants like the sago palm. Is it toxic to humans when ingested? Is it prohibited like weed? Is its existence can be considered a nuisance per se? If not, your irresponsible, reckless and negligent neighbours have no valid claim to stand on.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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Nal- however if the dog was unleashed on public property it is the dogs owner responsibility to keep an eye of their dog on a leash. I would be asking for replacement of the plant and for possible future incidents with your neighbor, install security cameras around your property, particularly by the neighbor who thinks this is your fault they didn't keep their dog and children under their care.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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They have no claim. If they do sue, and they wont win, I would would file a counter claim for the cost of the plants their dog destroyed, they are after all responsible for his actions.
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6q51lj
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Did you take any photos of where the plant was when the dog got into it? If you have any communications with them where they admit the dog was off leash, it might be very useful in proving which party was negligent. I would take as many photos as you can that contextualizes how far into your property an animal would need to have gone to access the plant, and have any communications between you and them happen via email or something documentable.
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6q51lj
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Your homeowners/renters insurance most likely covers some of this and/or defending you if they do take legal action.
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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j0621u
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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Plant enthusiast and dog owner here... If you were to google ‘plants poisonous to dogs’, the list is massive. Most plants are in some way or quantity are bad for dogs. Just look out your window, there’s likely a plant in view that is poisonous in some way to dogs. Their dog was in their care, under their supervision, and they allowed it to eat one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of plants that are in your area that could hurt their dog. Sago Palms are one of the most dangerous plants out there for dogs, unfortunately. They should have been more informed about protecting their investment.
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I am not a lawyer, but your Homeowner's insurance may cover this. Although they really don't have a case, they could still sue and you would have to hire an attorney, etc. If your homeowner's insurance covers this, your insurance company will pay a lawyer to handle it.
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j0621u
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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It doesn't sound like they've spoken to an attorney; tell them you won't pay anything and they can take you to court.
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Not a lawyer but that’s not your fault that they didn’t have their dogs on a leash, or that they are the decorative plant that many people have at their homes that are poisonous to dogs. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something that wasn’t your responsibility to begin with. That’s just my opinion though. They should’ve had their dogs. It’s their fault. At my home, we have a plethora of sago palms and we have a dog that freely roams the backyard. She’s smart enough to know not to eat them. She’s alive, what’s the difference here?
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6qe983
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Did you take any photos of where the plant was when the dog got into it? If you have any communications with them where they admit the dog was off leash, it might be very useful in proving which party was negligent. I would take as many photos as you can that contextualizes how far into your property an animal would need to have gone to access the plant, and have any communications between you and them happen via email or something documentable.
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You don't owe them shit. You didn't ask for their dog to be on your property, you didn't invite the dog over, you didn't say your property was safe for dogs. This is 100% on them for being irresponsible with their dog. You are just dealing with some childish, uneducated dummies who think they are the shit cause they have an expensive dog.
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j0621u
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6p6uan
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g6qe983
| 1,601,139,631 | 1,601,157,143 | 13 | 19 |
Your homeowners/renters insurance most likely covers some of this and/or defending you if they do take legal action.
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You don't owe them shit. You didn't ask for their dog to be on your property, you didn't invite the dog over, you didn't say your property was safe for dogs. This is 100% on them for being irresponsible with their dog. You are just dealing with some childish, uneducated dummies who think they are the shit cause they have an expensive dog.
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j0621u
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(AB, Canada) Neighbor's Dog Ate Poisonous Plant Off My Front Porch And Died I'm sorry for the long post but it's been really stressing me out. So I (26F) am a house plant enthusiast and I love finding some super rare exotic houseplants. During the hot days leading up to cold fall, I like to keep a few on my porch so they can bask in the sun during the day and bring them back in during the colder nights. I do own a few that are more or less poisonous to animals and human consumption however I live alone so I never thought of it to be an issue. Last spring, a new family moved in with have two very large dogs. They have two kids probably around 10-12, and almost every day they'll walk these dogs off leash around the neighborhood. I never found this to be a problem because they'll always clean up after the dogs. So here's where it all hits the fan. Last Thursday I get a loud bang on my door and it was my neighbor. And based on what his kids are saying, they were walking the dogs and one of them ran onto my porch and started so chew on one of my plants (sago palm). They called him back right away but within 15 minutes their dog started throwing up, having seizures, and died at the vets after they tried pumping out his stomach or something. From the looks of the plant, he ate quite a bit of middle which holds the seeds, which I admit are very toxic to dogs. They now are wanting me to pay for what the dogs costed them, I think he said it was a Purebreed Tibetan Mastiff and they paid $4000. They also want me to pay the vet fee ($2500), emotional damage because his kids are traumatized their dog died right in front of thrm ($1500). I told him that's not fair because it was his dog that came onto my property and ate my plant but he said I shouldn't have such toxic plants in a neighborhood with dogs in the first place. And told me if I don't pay he'll take legal action. Now I'm freaking out because I don't have $8000 dollars to pay for all that and I don't know if I can even afford a lawyer if he takes me to court. Do I have any legal right or is there anything I can do?
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g6q3ahu
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You don't owe them shit. You didn't ask for their dog to be on your property, you didn't invite the dog over, you didn't say your property was safe for dogs. This is 100% on them for being irresponsible with their dog. You are just dealing with some childish, uneducated dummies who think they are the shit cause they have an expensive dog.
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I am not a lawyer, but your Homeowner's insurance may cover this. Although they really don't have a case, they could still sue and you would have to hire an attorney, etc. If your homeowner's insurance covers this, your insurance company will pay a lawyer to handle it.
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A Falcon ate my neighbor's dog while it was in my backyard. Am I responsible? (WA State) So I own 2.25 acres in WA state, most of which is fenced. The rest and surrounding area is very heavily wooded with very high trees. My daughter's friend came over, and the friend brought one of her chihuahuas. (My daughter and her friend are both 10 if that matters.) They were in the backyard playing with the dog, but they both came inside to get something to eat, leaving the dog in the backyard. Apparently a falcon took the opportunity to swoop down, pick up the dog, and fly away. I didn't see this, but my daughter and her friend both saw the bird swoop down through the window. I hear screaming, come running, and the dog is gone. I run into the backyard and can't find anything. We looked around in the woods around the house for a while but couldn't find anything. The dog was gone. The poor girl is understandably upset, so I walk her home so I can talk to her parents and tell them what happened. The mom *lost her shit*, which, again, is understandable, but this was the craziest thing I had ever seen. She started rolling on the ground and making these wild, incoherent noises while their 5-6 other chihuahuas were jumping all over her, howling and barking. I thought I was going to have to dial 911. Then she jumped up and started smacking her daughter on the head, screaming at her about how she knew she wasn't allowed to leave the dog unattended outside because of the coyotes and hawks and eagles. She proceeded to scream at me how I could've let the dog play in the backyard. I said I was sorry for their loss, and I went home. A couple days later (today) the husband knocks on my door and demands $10,000 for the dog. I actually laughed at that, which pissed him off. Apparently the mom and dad showed the dog in dog shows and studded him out for $1,000 a pop. I basically told the guy to sue me, and he said I would be sorry, and he stormed off. If they do try to sue, is there a case here for them? I haven't told my home insurance policy about this yet. Should I tell them now or should I wait until he does something? TL:DR A hawk took a prize chihuahua while it was visiting my property. Should I worry?
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cw9hd5f
| 1,445,557,576 | 1,445,558,340 | 420 | 914 |
I don't see how you'd be liable here, but that won't stop them from suing you if they want to.
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Is it your falcon?
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3pu8mh
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A Falcon ate my neighbor's dog while it was in my backyard. Am I responsible? (WA State) So I own 2.25 acres in WA state, most of which is fenced. The rest and surrounding area is very heavily wooded with very high trees. My daughter's friend came over, and the friend brought one of her chihuahuas. (My daughter and her friend are both 10 if that matters.) They were in the backyard playing with the dog, but they both came inside to get something to eat, leaving the dog in the backyard. Apparently a falcon took the opportunity to swoop down, pick up the dog, and fly away. I didn't see this, but my daughter and her friend both saw the bird swoop down through the window. I hear screaming, come running, and the dog is gone. I run into the backyard and can't find anything. We looked around in the woods around the house for a while but couldn't find anything. The dog was gone. The poor girl is understandably upset, so I walk her home so I can talk to her parents and tell them what happened. The mom *lost her shit*, which, again, is understandable, but this was the craziest thing I had ever seen. She started rolling on the ground and making these wild, incoherent noises while their 5-6 other chihuahuas were jumping all over her, howling and barking. I thought I was going to have to dial 911. Then she jumped up and started smacking her daughter on the head, screaming at her about how she knew she wasn't allowed to leave the dog unattended outside because of the coyotes and hawks and eagles. She proceeded to scream at me how I could've let the dog play in the backyard. I said I was sorry for their loss, and I went home. A couple days later (today) the husband knocks on my door and demands $10,000 for the dog. I actually laughed at that, which pissed him off. Apparently the mom and dad showed the dog in dog shows and studded him out for $1,000 a pop. I basically told the guy to sue me, and he said I would be sorry, and he stormed off. If they do try to sue, is there a case here for them? I haven't told my home insurance policy about this yet. Should I tell them now or should I wait until he does something? TL:DR A hawk took a prize chihuahua while it was visiting my property. Should I worry?
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cw9j7m8
| 1,445,558,499 | 1,445,561,478 | 192 | 349 |
Well unless you secretly own the falcon or belong to some sort of bird cult. Otherwise act of god. And the dog visiting in no way implies you are responsible for its safety. If the kid was taken then they'd have a case. Maybe. These sound like the kind of people that will send a "letter" or something like that. Call your lawyer just to make sure you have some ammo ready to load up on them , just in case.
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I feel bad for the girl getting hit. Also show up to court if he takes it that far
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3pu8mh
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A Falcon ate my neighbor's dog while it was in my backyard. Am I responsible? (WA State) So I own 2.25 acres in WA state, most of which is fenced. The rest and surrounding area is very heavily wooded with very high trees. My daughter's friend came over, and the friend brought one of her chihuahuas. (My daughter and her friend are both 10 if that matters.) They were in the backyard playing with the dog, but they both came inside to get something to eat, leaving the dog in the backyard. Apparently a falcon took the opportunity to swoop down, pick up the dog, and fly away. I didn't see this, but my daughter and her friend both saw the bird swoop down through the window. I hear screaming, come running, and the dog is gone. I run into the backyard and can't find anything. We looked around in the woods around the house for a while but couldn't find anything. The dog was gone. The poor girl is understandably upset, so I walk her home so I can talk to her parents and tell them what happened. The mom *lost her shit*, which, again, is understandable, but this was the craziest thing I had ever seen. She started rolling on the ground and making these wild, incoherent noises while their 5-6 other chihuahuas were jumping all over her, howling and barking. I thought I was going to have to dial 911. Then she jumped up and started smacking her daughter on the head, screaming at her about how she knew she wasn't allowed to leave the dog unattended outside because of the coyotes and hawks and eagles. She proceeded to scream at me how I could've let the dog play in the backyard. I said I was sorry for their loss, and I went home. A couple days later (today) the husband knocks on my door and demands $10,000 for the dog. I actually laughed at that, which pissed him off. Apparently the mom and dad showed the dog in dog shows and studded him out for $1,000 a pop. I basically told the guy to sue me, and he said I would be sorry, and he stormed off. If they do try to sue, is there a case here for them? I haven't told my home insurance policy about this yet. Should I tell them now or should I wait until he does something? TL:DR A hawk took a prize chihuahua while it was visiting my property. Should I worry?
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cw9j7m8
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Well, if this a troll post it's a good one. 10/10.
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I feel bad for the girl getting hit. Also show up to court if he takes it that far
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Neighbor's loose rottweilers are charging at my dog (VA) My neighbor has 2 rottweilers that he routinely walks without a leash. Walking dogs unleashed is against local law, and is also a violation of our HOA. A few weeks ago while I was walking my small puppy, both of the rottweilers charged at my dog/me while the neighbor was walking them unleashed. I managed to pick up my dog, and the neighbor managed to restrain his, but only after the rotts managed to scratch up my arm. I now have a blood-stained shirt to prove it. We have spoken to him and threatened legal action if this happenens again. Despite this, he still walks his dogs like this almost every day. Fortunately I haven't run into him again yet, but that's only because I've rarely walked my dog in the neighborhood since the aforementioned incident. If I needed to defend myself/my dog in the event this happens again (I'm thinking kicking or carrying a knife might be necessary for defense), what type of proof would I need to show that my dog/myself were actually in danger? I know how awful that sounds, but I'm willing to do what it takes to defend my dog.
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j0awvpp
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Was animal control involved with the attack? Every incident needs to be reported so there is a track history of them being dangerous dogs.
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I know someone who always bicycles with a go pro. You could do something similar: strap a go pro to you or your pup on your walks. This will provide evidence. Even if the area was off leash friendly, you always have to have your dog under voice control. He doesn't. I'm sorry you are having to deal with that.
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Neighbor's loose dog killed my livestock While I was at work, my neighbor's pitbull got loose, wiggled through a gap between the gate and fence of my backyard, killed one of my ducks, and injured another before fleeing. I am wondering if the dog gets loose again and comes onto my property, and I preemptively shoot it based on it's past actions, would I be in trouble? I live in the state of Georgia.
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ix3i5po
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Not a lawyer but it seems like you wouldn’t get in trouble for doing it. Personally I would shoot it with a paintball gun or pellet gun first. The dog’s owner might say your fence is the problem, so I would fix the fence if it’s possible. I would talk with the dog owners first, they might agree to contain the dog and if you bring up court they might pay you off for the ducks or get rid of the dog
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You can shoot the dog if it's trying to kill your livestock on your property. https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2020/title-4/chapter-8/article-1/section-4-8-5/
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yzxzi3
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Neighbor's loose dog killed my livestock While I was at work, my neighbor's pitbull got loose, wiggled through a gap between the gate and fence of my backyard, killed one of my ducks, and injured another before fleeing. I am wondering if the dog gets loose again and comes onto my property, and I preemptively shoot it based on it's past actions, would I be in trouble? I live in the state of Georgia.
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Not a lawyer but it seems like you wouldn’t get in trouble for doing it. Personally I would shoot it with a paintball gun or pellet gun first. The dog’s owner might say your fence is the problem, so I would fix the fence if it’s possible. I would talk with the dog owners first, they might agree to contain the dog and if you bring up court they might pay you off for the ducks or get rid of the dog
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Perhaps consult with the town or county dog warden and file a report of killed livestock. It may be good to have a record of it, and they may have advice to offer or be able to give the owners a warning or ticket.
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Neighbor's loose dog killed my livestock While I was at work, my neighbor's pitbull got loose, wiggled through a gap between the gate and fence of my backyard, killed one of my ducks, and injured another before fleeing. I am wondering if the dog gets loose again and comes onto my property, and I preemptively shoot it based on it's past actions, would I be in trouble? I live in the state of Georgia.
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Not a lawyer but it seems like you wouldn’t get in trouble for doing it. Personally I would shoot it with a paintball gun or pellet gun first. The dog’s owner might say your fence is the problem, so I would fix the fence if it’s possible. I would talk with the dog owners first, they might agree to contain the dog and if you bring up court they might pay you off for the ducks or get rid of the dog
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As noted above, check with your local sheriff or dog warden to be sure. That being said, fix your fence and make sure everything is secure. That way if you do shoot the dog, they can't come back and say it was your fault for not properly protecting your livestock. I had a neighbors dog come to my yard multiple times and take chickens. The warden wasn't willing to do much since my yard isn't secure.
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Neighbor's loose dog killed my livestock While I was at work, my neighbor's pitbull got loose, wiggled through a gap between the gate and fence of my backyard, killed one of my ducks, and injured another before fleeing. I am wondering if the dog gets loose again and comes onto my property, and I preemptively shoot it based on it's past actions, would I be in trouble? I live in the state of Georgia.
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Not a lawyer but it seems like you wouldn’t get in trouble for doing it. Personally I would shoot it with a paintball gun or pellet gun first. The dog’s owner might say your fence is the problem, so I would fix the fence if it’s possible. I would talk with the dog owners first, they might agree to contain the dog and if you bring up court they might pay you off for the ducks or get rid of the dog
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I had a neighbors dog kill some of my chickens, they replaced them and apologized. The situation really sucked but they owned up to it and we dealt with it between the two of us. I know not everyone’s that lucky of course. I’d tighten up the fence and let them know he gets shot next time and hope for the best.
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