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zvywaj
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legaladvice_train
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Ex & his dad want to keep my half of the equity of the home that ex & I are both on the mortgage of. I moved out to my own place in early Oct. and ex shortly thereafter went into a mental health facility for care for two months. He is now saying that when we complete the sale of the house, he is going to keep my half of the equity/savings in order to pay off the clinic bill. Now, I have no savings of my own because we lived off of my paycheck (mortgage, bills, etc) and his went into a separate account (that he never added my name to). Where in Houston can I get low cost legal advice as I’m currently living paycheck to paycheck and not able afford full time legal services.
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j1uwyep
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j1vemq0
| 1,672,157,825 | 1,672,164,848 | 2 | 7 |
Get a divorce lawyer.
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I worked with a woman who had been divorced years before, but they didn’t sell the marital home. She stayed there and raised the kids. She took over all house expenses (mortgage, utilities, taxes) after separating. Years later, ex-hubby hired a lawyer. He finally wanted his half of the house. Well, she had to take out a mortgage because he was able to get half of the current value, even though he hadn’t paid a dime in years. She had also upgraded and maintained the house so it was worth quite a bit more by then. Handle these things immediately when divorcing. Also, insist on a neutral realtor.
| 0 | 7,023 | 3.5 |
zvywaj
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legaladvice_train
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Ex & his dad want to keep my half of the equity of the home that ex & I are both on the mortgage of. I moved out to my own place in early Oct. and ex shortly thereafter went into a mental health facility for care for two months. He is now saying that when we complete the sale of the house, he is going to keep my half of the equity/savings in order to pay off the clinic bill. Now, I have no savings of my own because we lived off of my paycheck (mortgage, bills, etc) and his went into a separate account (that he never added my name to). Where in Houston can I get low cost legal advice as I’m currently living paycheck to paycheck and not able afford full time legal services.
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j1spx79
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j1vemq0
| 1,672,108,143 | 1,672,164,848 | 2 | 7 |
Not a lawyer You may want to contact legal aid, or call the bar association for the state of texas and get a referral to such.
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I worked with a woman who had been divorced years before, but they didn’t sell the marital home. She stayed there and raised the kids. She took over all house expenses (mortgage, utilities, taxes) after separating. Years later, ex-hubby hired a lawyer. He finally wanted his half of the house. Well, she had to take out a mortgage because he was able to get half of the current value, even though he hadn’t paid a dime in years. She had also upgraded and maintained the house so it was worth quite a bit more by then. Handle these things immediately when divorcing. Also, insist on a neutral realtor.
| 0 | 56,705 | 3.5 |
zvywaj
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
Ex & his dad want to keep my half of the equity of the home that ex & I are both on the mortgage of. I moved out to my own place in early Oct. and ex shortly thereafter went into a mental health facility for care for two months. He is now saying that when we complete the sale of the house, he is going to keep my half of the equity/savings in order to pay off the clinic bill. Now, I have no savings of my own because we lived off of my paycheck (mortgage, bills, etc) and his went into a separate account (that he never added my name to). Where in Houston can I get low cost legal advice as I’m currently living paycheck to paycheck and not able afford full time legal services.
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j1umq2g
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j1upx4p
| 1,672,153,435 | 1,672,154,840 | 2 | 7 |
In Houston, see if Houston Volunteer Lawyers can help: https://legalhelphouston.org/
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Texas is a wonderful community property state. If you are divorcing him make sure to have as much financial information as you can get your hands on. However divorce settlements are sometimes just paper. I divorced my ex 16 years ago in North Texas and in my decree he was supposed to pay me $5000 but unfortunately I have never seen a dime of that. But he also didn’t pay child support on the regular either.
| 0 | 1,405 | 3.5 |
zvywaj
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legaladvice_train
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Ex & his dad want to keep my half of the equity of the home that ex & I are both on the mortgage of. I moved out to my own place in early Oct. and ex shortly thereafter went into a mental health facility for care for two months. He is now saying that when we complete the sale of the house, he is going to keep my half of the equity/savings in order to pay off the clinic bill. Now, I have no savings of my own because we lived off of my paycheck (mortgage, bills, etc) and his went into a separate account (that he never added my name to). Where in Houston can I get low cost legal advice as I’m currently living paycheck to paycheck and not able afford full time legal services.
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j1spx79
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j1upx4p
| 1,672,108,143 | 1,672,154,840 | 2 | 7 |
Not a lawyer You may want to contact legal aid, or call the bar association for the state of texas and get a referral to such.
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Texas is a wonderful community property state. If you are divorcing him make sure to have as much financial information as you can get your hands on. However divorce settlements are sometimes just paper. I divorced my ex 16 years ago in North Texas and in my decree he was supposed to pay me $5000 but unfortunately I have never seen a dime of that. But he also didn’t pay child support on the regular either.
| 0 | 46,697 | 3.5 |
zvywaj
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
Ex & his dad want to keep my half of the equity of the home that ex & I are both on the mortgage of. I moved out to my own place in early Oct. and ex shortly thereafter went into a mental health facility for care for two months. He is now saying that when we complete the sale of the house, he is going to keep my half of the equity/savings in order to pay off the clinic bill. Now, I have no savings of my own because we lived off of my paycheck (mortgage, bills, etc) and his went into a separate account (that he never added my name to). Where in Houston can I get low cost legal advice as I’m currently living paycheck to paycheck and not able afford full time legal services.
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j1vsyhc
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j1umq2g
| 1,672,170,537 | 1,672,153,435 | 3 | 2 |
This is illegal. If your name is on the deed, don't sign the sale until it clearly states where the proceeds go. If the sale already agreed upon, there is no way he can legally take your share.
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In Houston, see if Houston Volunteer Lawyers can help: https://legalhelphouston.org/
| 1 | 17,102 | 1.5 |
zvywaj
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
Ex & his dad want to keep my half of the equity of the home that ex & I are both on the mortgage of. I moved out to my own place in early Oct. and ex shortly thereafter went into a mental health facility for care for two months. He is now saying that when we complete the sale of the house, he is going to keep my half of the equity/savings in order to pay off the clinic bill. Now, I have no savings of my own because we lived off of my paycheck (mortgage, bills, etc) and his went into a separate account (that he never added my name to). Where in Houston can I get low cost legal advice as I’m currently living paycheck to paycheck and not able afford full time legal services.
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j1uwyep
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j1vsyhc
| 1,672,157,825 | 1,672,170,537 | 2 | 3 |
Get a divorce lawyer.
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This is illegal. If your name is on the deed, don't sign the sale until it clearly states where the proceeds go. If the sale already agreed upon, there is no way he can legally take your share.
| 0 | 12,712 | 1.5 |
zvywaj
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
Ex & his dad want to keep my half of the equity of the home that ex & I are both on the mortgage of. I moved out to my own place in early Oct. and ex shortly thereafter went into a mental health facility for care for two months. He is now saying that when we complete the sale of the house, he is going to keep my half of the equity/savings in order to pay off the clinic bill. Now, I have no savings of my own because we lived off of my paycheck (mortgage, bills, etc) and his went into a separate account (that he never added my name to). Where in Houston can I get low cost legal advice as I’m currently living paycheck to paycheck and not able afford full time legal services.
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j1spx79
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j1vsyhc
| 1,672,108,143 | 1,672,170,537 | 2 | 3 |
Not a lawyer You may want to contact legal aid, or call the bar association for the state of texas and get a referral to such.
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This is illegal. If your name is on the deed, don't sign the sale until it clearly states where the proceeds go. If the sale already agreed upon, there is no way he can legally take your share.
| 0 | 62,394 | 1.5 |
ddz8zo
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Ex-wife abuses my eight year old son. He is a US citizen, but she lives in Mexico. Mexican court are ignoring me, but custody agreement was signed down there. Do I have any US legal options? My ex-wife scratches, hits, makes fun of and puts down my eight year old son. She has admitted to hitting him in writing (through What’s App) and I have pictures of the scratches. The catch...I live in the US and she lives in Mexico. The Mexican Courts have been unresponsive and haven’t responded to my latest request to meet with child services for ten months. She is a bit of a monster so I am trying to get a protective order, while I ask for a change in custody. He is a US citizen but lives most of the time with her in Mexico. Divorce and custody agreement were signed in Mexico.
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f2qpott
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f2pk5fk
| 1,570,365,387 | 1,570,344,970 | 69 | 31 |
Try contacting the US embassy closest to the City they live in. I'm sure they would be interested in an underage US citizen being abused. They may be able to guide you to resources that could help you navigate the Mexican Govt.
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How long has he lived primarily in Mexico?
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ddz8zo
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legaladvice_train
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Ex-wife abuses my eight year old son. He is a US citizen, but she lives in Mexico. Mexican court are ignoring me, but custody agreement was signed down there. Do I have any US legal options? My ex-wife scratches, hits, makes fun of and puts down my eight year old son. She has admitted to hitting him in writing (through What’s App) and I have pictures of the scratches. The catch...I live in the US and she lives in Mexico. The Mexican Courts have been unresponsive and haven’t responded to my latest request to meet with child services for ten months. She is a bit of a monster so I am trying to get a protective order, while I ask for a change in custody. He is a US citizen but lives most of the time with her in Mexico. Divorce and custody agreement were signed in Mexico.
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f2qpott
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f2qkfi0
| 1,570,365,387 | 1,570,363,422 | 69 | 16 |
Try contacting the US embassy closest to the City they live in. I'm sure they would be interested in an underage US citizen being abused. They may be able to guide you to resources that could help you navigate the Mexican Govt.
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Contact DIF with your issues. They are the Mexican CPS and yes they can and do take action to stop abuse. If the local DIF won’t take action then go higher. Be prepared with a Mexican attorney to take custody once she loses it.
| 1 | 1,965 | 4.3125 |
zlib7m
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legaladvice_train
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Insurance firm didn’t take abusive ex’s name off policy and is insisting on putting any payment checks in BOTH our names Hi, A few months ago, I had a major theft claim from my old residence (this was a place I had only been staying in and my ex was not likely involved), and for the first time in my life, I had to file a claim against my insurance. Several years ago, when my ex and I were first together, I had him put on my policy documents because we had moved in together. I was told by the CS agent that sold me the policy that his being on there was revocable at any time. When I renewed my policy earlier this year, I told them to take his name off the policy, but it’s clear they did not, as I am now finding that even though I was the only payer (I started the policy; I paid for it the entire time; I asked them to remove his name off of it when the abuse got to be really bad), and I was the only person that incurred any losses, they’re demanding that the check for the losses be paid in both names. It’s outrageous to me because not only did I ask them to take his name off (and they did not apparently), but the only person that incurred loss WAS me, and that having a check under his name as well will literally cause me to have to put my life in danger just to get a refund for my losses. I don’t know what to do. I explained to the agent that I had told them to remove his name and that he is a danger to me, and nothing is being done. I can’t just let all of my stuff just be stolen because I’ll be worse than bankrupted if I can’t get the pay out to pay for the items that I still owe on, but the insurance company isn’t listening and I’m scared to death that I’ll have to find him, which will put me and my pets in danger, to get the loss resolved. Advice?
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j05i0tc
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j05n5vo
| 1,670,994,999 | 1,670,998,118 | 87 | 103 |
Usually when two names are on a check, either person can endorse it and cash it / deposit it. Can you ask your bank if that’s the case? Then you’d have nothing to worry about.
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When you told them to remove his name, was that in writing?
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54dn42
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legaladvice_train
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FL: My schizophrenic neighbor has over 30 times accused my 9 year old nephew (who I’ve adopted) of raping her and fathering her 20 year old son. He’s been taken twice by CPS (and then returned) and interviewed by police over 12. The cops won’t stop her because she hasn’t harmed herself or others
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d80z0r0
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d80ykjt
| 1,474,777,328 | 1,474,776,430 | 1,673 | 451 |
It's not right that you should have to but: have you considered moving? Because this can't be good for your son and you sometimes have to take the pragmatic approach.
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Not a lawyer. Can you get a restraining order or file harassment charges?
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54dn42
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legaladvice_train
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FL: My schizophrenic neighbor has over 30 times accused my 9 year old nephew (who I’ve adopted) of raping her and fathering her 20 year old son. He’s been taken twice by CPS (and then returned) and interviewed by police over 12. The cops won’t stop her because she hasn’t harmed herself or others
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d80zj55
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d810s7d
| 1,474,778,395 | 1,474,781,242 | 177 | 263 |
Fhave a lawyer send her a cease and desist then immediately file suit for defamation under florida's defamation per se law. Also call adult protective services
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Have you talked to her son about this? And at some point, surely the cops would stop taking her seriously.
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54dn42
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legaladvice_train
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FL: My schizophrenic neighbor has over 30 times accused my 9 year old nephew (who I’ve adopted) of raping her and fathering her 20 year old son. He’s been taken twice by CPS (and then returned) and interviewed by police over 12. The cops won’t stop her because she hasn’t harmed herself or others
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d810s7d
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d80zgel
| 1,474,781,242 | 1,474,778,231 | 263 | 85 |
Have you talked to her son about this? And at some point, surely the cops would stop taking her seriously.
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In a situation like this would calling APS be useful?
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54dn42
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legaladvice_train
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FL: My schizophrenic neighbor has over 30 times accused my 9 year old nephew (who I’ve adopted) of raping her and fathering her 20 year old son. He’s been taken twice by CPS (and then returned) and interviewed by police over 12. The cops won’t stop her because she hasn’t harmed herself or others
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d80zj55
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d80zgel
| 1,474,778,395 | 1,474,778,231 | 177 | 85 |
Fhave a lawyer send her a cease and desist then immediately file suit for defamation under florida's defamation per se law. Also call adult protective services
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In a situation like this would calling APS be useful?
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54dn42
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legaladvice_train
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FL: My schizophrenic neighbor has over 30 times accused my 9 year old nephew (who I’ve adopted) of raping her and fathering her 20 year old son. He’s been taken twice by CPS (and then returned) and interviewed by police over 12. The cops won’t stop her because she hasn’t harmed herself or others
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d81ajd1
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d80zgel
| 1,474,812,439 | 1,474,778,231 | 93 | 85 |
OK, looks like you've tried the obvious things, and your nephew/son already has a serious history with CPS and police due to this woman's actions. You will need a private lawyer for this, and let me caution that this remedy is not for every time a neighbor meddles or pisses you off. But in this case, I would: FILE A DEFAMATION ACTION. Or at least seriously propose one. Your neighbor has zero basis for asserting that a nine-year-old fathered her 20-year-old son. That's the kind of baseless, patent lie that can succeed in a defamation action. You have actual damages, due to the reputational injury with the public and enforcement agencies. It's a cut and dried defamation case for a private figure. EDIT: and note that you don't need mens rea or specific intent for private figure defamation, just recklessness as to truth or falsity, which shouldn't be ruled out by the defamer being insane. So let me again point out that you need a lawyer, to handle the complexities which are substantial, and to sort out local law on insane people. And I'm not your lawyer. But this is basically how I'd do it, hypothetically: - Draft up a civil claim for defamation, asking for substantial damages such as $3 million or more. Yes, obviously this woman has no money. And you don't want money. The damage claim is simply to underscore how serious this is. - You may also be able to add a claim for malicious prosecution and/or abuse of process. - In addition to asking for damages on the defamation/etc. claim, either in the same suit or a concurrently filed petition, depending on your local law, *ask that a legal guardian be appointed to care for this woman.* Yes, I know that you may not have the classic form of standing to do that. But both of these things, put together, will command the attention you need to shake local law enforcement and CPS out of its complacency. And there is a non-frivolous argument for standing - I've done similar ones before, not exactly like this, but if you're injured, the law gives you standing equitably, and a statute restricting who can ask that a guardian be appointed can't take that away. - In conjunction with all three, consider making a report to Adult Protective Services. Yes, I know, normally CPS would pass information on from a situation like this. But no one is doing anything now. Now let me say again, since I normally don't go into this kind of detail: I'm not your lawyer, and you should consult one with all the details. Depending on that advice, your lawyer will likely want to draft up a pre-suit letter and send it out to this woman, basically a cease-and-desist letter. *Now again, she's crazy* - everything that you're doing is basically a wake up call to *other people* who can fix this problem. But she may well cease and desist if she gets a convincing, well-crafted letter signed by a local attorney, usually with a clearly marked "DRAFT" complaint attached that you propose to file if you can't solve the problem pre-judicially.
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In a situation like this would calling APS be useful?
| 1 | 34,208 | 1.094118 |
54dn42
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
FL: My schizophrenic neighbor has over 30 times accused my 9 year old nephew (who I’ve adopted) of raping her and fathering her 20 year old son. He’s been taken twice by CPS (and then returned) and interviewed by police over 12. The cops won’t stop her because she hasn’t harmed herself or others
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d81ajd1
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d813kv1
| 1,474,812,439 | 1,474,789,550 | 93 | 76 |
OK, looks like you've tried the obvious things, and your nephew/son already has a serious history with CPS and police due to this woman's actions. You will need a private lawyer for this, and let me caution that this remedy is not for every time a neighbor meddles or pisses you off. But in this case, I would: FILE A DEFAMATION ACTION. Or at least seriously propose one. Your neighbor has zero basis for asserting that a nine-year-old fathered her 20-year-old son. That's the kind of baseless, patent lie that can succeed in a defamation action. You have actual damages, due to the reputational injury with the public and enforcement agencies. It's a cut and dried defamation case for a private figure. EDIT: and note that you don't need mens rea or specific intent for private figure defamation, just recklessness as to truth or falsity, which shouldn't be ruled out by the defamer being insane. So let me again point out that you need a lawyer, to handle the complexities which are substantial, and to sort out local law on insane people. And I'm not your lawyer. But this is basically how I'd do it, hypothetically: - Draft up a civil claim for defamation, asking for substantial damages such as $3 million or more. Yes, obviously this woman has no money. And you don't want money. The damage claim is simply to underscore how serious this is. - You may also be able to add a claim for malicious prosecution and/or abuse of process. - In addition to asking for damages on the defamation/etc. claim, either in the same suit or a concurrently filed petition, depending on your local law, *ask that a legal guardian be appointed to care for this woman.* Yes, I know that you may not have the classic form of standing to do that. But both of these things, put together, will command the attention you need to shake local law enforcement and CPS out of its complacency. And there is a non-frivolous argument for standing - I've done similar ones before, not exactly like this, but if you're injured, the law gives you standing equitably, and a statute restricting who can ask that a guardian be appointed can't take that away. - In conjunction with all three, consider making a report to Adult Protective Services. Yes, I know, normally CPS would pass information on from a situation like this. But no one is doing anything now. Now let me say again, since I normally don't go into this kind of detail: I'm not your lawyer, and you should consult one with all the details. Depending on that advice, your lawyer will likely want to draft up a pre-suit letter and send it out to this woman, basically a cease-and-desist letter. *Now again, she's crazy* - everything that you're doing is basically a wake up call to *other people* who can fix this problem. But she may well cease and desist if she gets a convincing, well-crafted letter signed by a local attorney, usually with a clearly marked "DRAFT" complaint attached that you propose to file if you can't solve the problem pre-judicially.
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Not a lawyer and this isn't even advice, but if an adult is saying they had sex with a 9 year old, why isn't the adult being charged/investigated for pedophilia and statutory rape? Is it even possible for a 9 year old to legally rape an adult? (I realize that a 9 year old fathering a 20 year old son is also impossible either way.) If the two did happen to have sex, isn't the adult, even if schizophrenic, still the party at fault here?
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54dn42
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
FL: My schizophrenic neighbor has over 30 times accused my 9 year old nephew (who I’ve adopted) of raping her and fathering her 20 year old son. He’s been taken twice by CPS (and then returned) and interviewed by police over 12. The cops won’t stop her because she hasn’t harmed herself or others
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d81ajd1
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d8143b0
| 1,474,812,439 | 1,474,791,391 | 93 | 51 |
OK, looks like you've tried the obvious things, and your nephew/son already has a serious history with CPS and police due to this woman's actions. You will need a private lawyer for this, and let me caution that this remedy is not for every time a neighbor meddles or pisses you off. But in this case, I would: FILE A DEFAMATION ACTION. Or at least seriously propose one. Your neighbor has zero basis for asserting that a nine-year-old fathered her 20-year-old son. That's the kind of baseless, patent lie that can succeed in a defamation action. You have actual damages, due to the reputational injury with the public and enforcement agencies. It's a cut and dried defamation case for a private figure. EDIT: and note that you don't need mens rea or specific intent for private figure defamation, just recklessness as to truth or falsity, which shouldn't be ruled out by the defamer being insane. So let me again point out that you need a lawyer, to handle the complexities which are substantial, and to sort out local law on insane people. And I'm not your lawyer. But this is basically how I'd do it, hypothetically: - Draft up a civil claim for defamation, asking for substantial damages such as $3 million or more. Yes, obviously this woman has no money. And you don't want money. The damage claim is simply to underscore how serious this is. - You may also be able to add a claim for malicious prosecution and/or abuse of process. - In addition to asking for damages on the defamation/etc. claim, either in the same suit or a concurrently filed petition, depending on your local law, *ask that a legal guardian be appointed to care for this woman.* Yes, I know that you may not have the classic form of standing to do that. But both of these things, put together, will command the attention you need to shake local law enforcement and CPS out of its complacency. And there is a non-frivolous argument for standing - I've done similar ones before, not exactly like this, but if you're injured, the law gives you standing equitably, and a statute restricting who can ask that a guardian be appointed can't take that away. - In conjunction with all three, consider making a report to Adult Protective Services. Yes, I know, normally CPS would pass information on from a situation like this. But no one is doing anything now. Now let me say again, since I normally don't go into this kind of detail: I'm not your lawyer, and you should consult one with all the details. Depending on that advice, your lawyer will likely want to draft up a pre-suit letter and send it out to this woman, basically a cease-and-desist letter. *Now again, she's crazy* - everything that you're doing is basically a wake up call to *other people* who can fix this problem. But she may well cease and desist if she gets a convincing, well-crafted letter signed by a local attorney, usually with a clearly marked "DRAFT" complaint attached that you propose to file if you can't solve the problem pre-judicially.
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9 year old's right to peace trumps schizophrenic adult's right to not take their pills. The police need to either fill her up with some good medicine or take her in custody or some shit.
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xdz3q6
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legaladvice_train
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iodqv3b
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ioe6bh9
| 1,663,154,108 | 1,663,161,881 | 180 | 3,530 |
They have no likely legal obligation to deliver mail from a shared box to your subtenant but they do have a legal obligation to keep their hands off of and leave mail addressed to your subtenant in the box so that they can pick up their own mail. BTW: Your subtenant needs to be the one to complain to the postal service since if it is their mail.
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Filling a complaint with the US postal inspector is a good first step. You should also file a police report at your local police station to help create a paper trail over the theft of your mail. As a practical matter, you should ask your local post office to hold your mail for pickup rather than deliver it. You shouldn't have to, but it's the easiest way to ensure no future mail is stolen.
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xdz3q6
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legaladvice_train
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iodqe1n
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ioe6bh9
| 1,663,153,852 | 1,663,161,881 | 66 | 3,530 |
Not a lawyer... I'd suggest you call the police (not the emergency line) and and file a report of stolen property.
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Filling a complaint with the US postal inspector is a good first step. You should also file a police report at your local police station to help create a paper trail over the theft of your mail. As a practical matter, you should ask your local post office to hold your mail for pickup rather than deliver it. You shouldn't have to, but it's the easiest way to ensure no future mail is stolen.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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ioeb6ts
| 1,663,165,284 | 1,663,163,921 | 741 | 522 |
So San Francisco actually prevents what it considers eviction by harassment or coercion. And it does not require the landlord to do the harassment. Prop M applies to anyone reasonably acting on behalf of the landlord. I would first send an email or letter by certified mail to your landlord indicating that neighbor is acting on behalf of the family and therefore the landlord in illegally withholding your mail. Notify them that stealing mail is a crime and it has been reported to USPIS. Additionally, you are reaching out to the to the tenants union to enforce your rights under Proposition M. Make sure to note that any additional harassment by neighbor will be reported.
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I'm a mail carrier. I think contacting the postal inspectors is a good first step. If you go to your local post office and talk to the postmaster, they may be able to force the owner of the building to put up separate boxes for each apartment and hold ALL mail until this is met. Maybe. It's not against the rules to have multiple addresses delivered to one box but it isn't optimal either. And apartments in one building ARE separate addresses as far as emergency services is concerned. It depends on how proactive your local PO is. Practically it may be best to open a PO box and have all your mail directed there.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iodqv3b
| 1,663,165,284 | 1,663,154,108 | 741 | 180 |
So San Francisco actually prevents what it considers eviction by harassment or coercion. And it does not require the landlord to do the harassment. Prop M applies to anyone reasonably acting on behalf of the landlord. I would first send an email or letter by certified mail to your landlord indicating that neighbor is acting on behalf of the family and therefore the landlord in illegally withholding your mail. Notify them that stealing mail is a crime and it has been reported to USPIS. Additionally, you are reaching out to the to the tenants union to enforce your rights under Proposition M. Make sure to note that any additional harassment by neighbor will be reported.
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They have no likely legal obligation to deliver mail from a shared box to your subtenant but they do have a legal obligation to keep their hands off of and leave mail addressed to your subtenant in the box so that they can pick up their own mail. BTW: Your subtenant needs to be the one to complain to the postal service since if it is their mail.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iodqe1n
| 1,663,165,284 | 1,663,153,852 | 741 | 66 |
So San Francisco actually prevents what it considers eviction by harassment or coercion. And it does not require the landlord to do the harassment. Prop M applies to anyone reasonably acting on behalf of the landlord. I would first send an email or letter by certified mail to your landlord indicating that neighbor is acting on behalf of the family and therefore the landlord in illegally withholding your mail. Notify them that stealing mail is a crime and it has been reported to USPIS. Additionally, you are reaching out to the to the tenants union to enforce your rights under Proposition M. Make sure to note that any additional harassment by neighbor will be reported.
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Not a lawyer... I'd suggest you call the police (not the emergency line) and and file a report of stolen property.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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ioeb6ts
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iodqv3b
| 1,663,163,921 | 1,663,154,108 | 522 | 180 |
I'm a mail carrier. I think contacting the postal inspectors is a good first step. If you go to your local post office and talk to the postmaster, they may be able to force the owner of the building to put up separate boxes for each apartment and hold ALL mail until this is met. Maybe. It's not against the rules to have multiple addresses delivered to one box but it isn't optimal either. And apartments in one building ARE separate addresses as far as emergency services is concerned. It depends on how proactive your local PO is. Practically it may be best to open a PO box and have all your mail directed there.
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They have no likely legal obligation to deliver mail from a shared box to your subtenant but they do have a legal obligation to keep their hands off of and leave mail addressed to your subtenant in the box so that they can pick up their own mail. BTW: Your subtenant needs to be the one to complain to the postal service since if it is their mail.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iodqe1n
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ioeb6ts
| 1,663,153,852 | 1,663,163,921 | 66 | 522 |
Not a lawyer... I'd suggest you call the police (not the emergency line) and and file a report of stolen property.
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I'm a mail carrier. I think contacting the postal inspectors is a good first step. If you go to your local post office and talk to the postmaster, they may be able to force the owner of the building to put up separate boxes for each apartment and hold ALL mail until this is met. Maybe. It's not against the rules to have multiple addresses delivered to one box but it isn't optimal either. And apartments in one building ARE separate addresses as far as emergency services is concerned. It depends on how proactive your local PO is. Practically it may be best to open a PO box and have all your mail directed there.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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ioekk2k
| 1,663,154,108 | 1,663,167,664 | 180 | 259 |
They have no likely legal obligation to deliver mail from a shared box to your subtenant but they do have a legal obligation to keep their hands off of and leave mail addressed to your subtenant in the box so that they can pick up their own mail. BTW: Your subtenant needs to be the one to complain to the postal service since if it is their mail.
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Additional advice: sign up for Informed Delivery and take screenshots of the mail you’re missing as it comes in. There is also an option to mark the mail as stolen, which will be sent to USPIS.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iodqe1n
| 1,663,167,664 | 1,663,153,852 | 259 | 66 |
Additional advice: sign up for Informed Delivery and take screenshots of the mail you’re missing as it comes in. There is also an option to mark the mail as stolen, which will be sent to USPIS.
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Not a lawyer... I'd suggest you call the police (not the emergency line) and and file a report of stolen property.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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| 1,663,167,664 | 1,663,167,629 | 259 | 37 |
Additional advice: sign up for Informed Delivery and take screenshots of the mail you’re missing as it comes in. There is also an option to mark the mail as stolen, which will be sent to USPIS.
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Since your in SF I know from experience there the rent board it very effective. Maybe not on mail. But worth a try. I had mice where I lived, landlord manager did nothing. I used rent board and got three months free rent and the mice were taken care of within 24 hours by a professional. Edit: The SF rent board has enough power to enforce financial compensation to tenants quickly. Thinking on this further, in addition to usps inspector and police reports I think you’ll get a very quick response from the actual landlord, who may or may not be aware of what’s happening. Sorry if I missed any details. I thought of this in the shower. Good luck. 🍀
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iodqe1n
| 1,663,154,108 | 1,663,153,852 | 180 | 66 |
They have no likely legal obligation to deliver mail from a shared box to your subtenant but they do have a legal obligation to keep their hands off of and leave mail addressed to your subtenant in the box so that they can pick up their own mail. BTW: Your subtenant needs to be the one to complain to the postal service since if it is their mail.
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Not a lawyer... I'd suggest you call the police (not the emergency line) and and file a report of stolen property.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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Not a lawyer... I'd suggest you call the police (not the emergency line) and and file a report of stolen property.
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First I would inform the guy that took other person's mail that tampering with mail is a federal offense. It will go on their criminal record. If they are still willing to go that route, involve the police. If you have the recording of them refusing to return mail that is clearly not theirs that's quite a confession.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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ioetxyw
| 1,663,167,629 | 1,663,171,240 | 37 | 86 |
Since your in SF I know from experience there the rent board it very effective. Maybe not on mail. But worth a try. I had mice where I lived, landlord manager did nothing. I used rent board and got three months free rent and the mice were taken care of within 24 hours by a professional. Edit: The SF rent board has enough power to enforce financial compensation to tenants quickly. Thinking on this further, in addition to usps inspector and police reports I think you’ll get a very quick response from the actual landlord, who may or may not be aware of what’s happening. Sorry if I missed any details. I thought of this in the shower. Good luck. 🍀
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First I would inform the guy that took other person's mail that tampering with mail is a federal offense. It will go on their criminal record. If they are still willing to go that route, involve the police. If you have the recording of them refusing to return mail that is clearly not theirs that's quite a confession.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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I agree, call SFPD's non-emergency number and request an officer or two come vist, and remind your neighbor that mail theft is a Federal offense AND violation of California Penal Code 530.5(e) >Every person who commits mail theft, as defined in Section 1708 of Title 18 of the United States Code, is guilty of a public offense, and upon conviction therefore shall be punished by a fine, by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by both a fine and imprisonment. My question for you: does your neighbor considers himself the "on site manager" because his family owns the building? Who do you contact if there's a problem? Is it on your lease? Because this sounds like you should complain directly to the landlord, but if your neighbor is directly related, that probably won't do any good. Alternate solution is to rent a mailbox nearby. Post office or UPS Store.
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Everyone's focused on the fact that mail was stolen and saying go through USPS, but this is actually an attempted eviction by harassment, so you should call the regular police and get them involved, too. You can read more about it here: https://sfrb.org/proposition-m-passed-11408-tenant-harassment-prohibited
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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ioft5f8
| 1,663,185,671 | 1,663,185,024 | 24 | 9 |
Everyone's focused on the fact that mail was stolen and saying go through USPS, but this is actually an attempted eviction by harassment, so you should call the regular police and get them involved, too. You can read more about it here: https://sfrb.org/proposition-m-passed-11408-tenant-harassment-prohibited
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Pretty sure that’s a felony to take someone’s mail…
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iofurbt
| 1,663,184,425 | 1,663,185,671 | 7 | 24 |
Simple:order something over 1000 with signature they will sign file felony theft report press charges.
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Everyone's focused on the fact that mail was stolen and saying go through USPS, but this is actually an attempted eviction by harassment, so you should call the regular police and get them involved, too. You can read more about it here: https://sfrb.org/proposition-m-passed-11408-tenant-harassment-prohibited
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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ioft5f8
| 1,663,194,627 | 1,663,185,024 | 18 | 9 |
First of all, one mailbox for a multi-family home is ridiculous and you should ask the Post Office about this. More specifically to your neighbor keeping your mail, you need to read up on California Penal Code 530.5 (e) and then contact the police. Based off of your post, your neighbor is stealling your mail.
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Pretty sure that’s a felony to take someone’s mail…
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iofrnuy
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iogfwic
| 1,663,184,425 | 1,663,194,627 | 7 | 18 |
Simple:order something over 1000 with signature they will sign file felony theft report press charges.
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First of all, one mailbox for a multi-family home is ridiculous and you should ask the Post Office about this. More specifically to your neighbor keeping your mail, you need to read up on California Penal Code 530.5 (e) and then contact the police. Based off of your post, your neighbor is stealling your mail.
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Neighbor is holding my USPS Mail and refuses to deliver it I live in a rent control house in San Francisco. It is three stories -- I have the lower story. The entire house shares one address and one mail box. My neighbor's family owns the building. My neighbor does not own the building. Currently there is a sublet tenant in my unit. This is permitted under my lease. My neighbor objects. As a way to try to get me to move they are refusing to deliver DMV mail and insurance mail. I have contacted the US Postal inspector and filed a complaint. What further legal options do I have? What actions can I take? Best -JW-
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iofrnuy
| 1,663,185,024 | 1,663,184,425 | 9 | 7 |
Pretty sure that’s a felony to take someone’s mail…
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Simple:order something over 1000 with signature they will sign file felony theft report press charges.
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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Based on what was said, his vehicle to obstructing clear approach to the box. The obstruction doesn't necessarily have to be right in front of the box. If a vehicle is parked 5 ft (as an example only) before or after the box, it would prevent the postman from pulling his/her delivery vehicle up to the mailbox. It could be more than 5 ft and still be an obstruction. https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Requirements-for-City-Delivery-Mail-Receptacles#curbside_mailboxes Clear approach Customers must keep the approach to their mailboxes clear of obstructions to allow safe access for delivery. If USPS employees are impeded in reaching a mail receptacle, the postmaster may withdraw delivery service.
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Can they just move the mailbox? My uncle had this problem. The sidewalk was not up to the standards of the mailman so he stopped getting mail. The easiest solution was just to move the mailbox
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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| 1,644,076,544 | 1,644,077,302 | 7 | 56 |
your friend might have better luck moving the mailbox, which is a quick conversation with the postmaster. the USPS trucks needs clearance to pull up to and away from the box safely. being able to get to the box doesnt always mean it isnt obstructed.
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Obstructions can be anything from ice, snow, wobbly steps, porches with missing floor boards, vehicles… anything that impedes access to the mailbox. They will not simply cut service because the postie doesn’t feel like it. They will send out an inspector, they will leave a note or have a conversation with the resident outlining what needs to be corrected. So, there are things your family member hasn’t told you all the information. Source of procedure: I’m a postie.
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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hvpm6wi
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You could also go to the USPS subreddit and ask for advice there
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Obstructions can be anything from ice, snow, wobbly steps, porches with missing floor boards, vehicles… anything that impedes access to the mailbox. They will not simply cut service because the postie doesn’t feel like it. They will send out an inspector, they will leave a note or have a conversation with the resident outlining what needs to be corrected. So, there are things your family member hasn’t told you all the information. Source of procedure: I’m a postie.
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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hvprnkw
| 1,644,081,754 | 1,644,079,498 | 5 | 4 |
I went through this when my neighbor kept parking too close to my mailbox. There is not an official rule about what is or is not an obstruction. Basiscally, it is left up to the usps driver to decide what they can and cant reach. Essentially this is a customer service issue more than it is a legal one. As others have said, get a PO box quickly. See what can be done to accommodate the parking and mail box. Document the days in which no mail is received. Take photos of how the car is parked. Find what location services your house, set aside like 3 hours. Be polite to everyone. Explain the situation and ask for a meeting with the someone who can help. You may have to go back on a different day. Your goal in this meeting is to work with them to find a resolution, not to accuse the driver of being unreasonable.
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Tell him to put his mail on hold and pick up at the post office. The must be something wrong with the delivery to that mailbox if their going to such lengths to stop delivery.
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sl704j
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legaladvice_train
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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hvprnkw
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hvpl0rp
| 1,644,079,498 | 1,644,076,820 | 4 | 3 |
Tell him to put his mail on hold and pick up at the post office. The must be something wrong with the delivery to that mailbox if their going to such lengths to stop delivery.
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You could also go to the USPS subreddit and ask for advice there
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sl704j
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legaladvice_train
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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hvpxf84
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hvpsx33
| 1,644,081,754 | 1,644,079,990 | 5 | 4 |
I went through this when my neighbor kept parking too close to my mailbox. There is not an official rule about what is or is not an obstruction. Basiscally, it is left up to the usps driver to decide what they can and cant reach. Essentially this is a customer service issue more than it is a legal one. As others have said, get a PO box quickly. See what can be done to accommodate the parking and mail box. Document the days in which no mail is received. Take photos of how the car is parked. Find what location services your house, set aside like 3 hours. Be polite to everyone. Explain the situation and ask for a meeting with the someone who can help. You may have to go back on a different day. Your goal in this meeting is to work with them to find a resolution, not to accuse the driver of being unreasonable.
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Is he parking on his property or on the street? Is he allowed to park on the street? Can he park on some other part of the street? You said he's on a corner lot. ... Can't he park around the corner?
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sl704j
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legaladvice_train
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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hvpxf84
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hvpl0rp
| 1,644,081,754 | 1,644,076,820 | 5 | 3 |
I went through this when my neighbor kept parking too close to my mailbox. There is not an official rule about what is or is not an obstruction. Basiscally, it is left up to the usps driver to decide what they can and cant reach. Essentially this is a customer service issue more than it is a legal one. As others have said, get a PO box quickly. See what can be done to accommodate the parking and mail box. Document the days in which no mail is received. Take photos of how the car is parked. Find what location services your house, set aside like 3 hours. Be polite to everyone. Explain the situation and ask for a meeting with the someone who can help. You may have to go back on a different day. Your goal in this meeting is to work with them to find a resolution, not to accuse the driver of being unreasonable.
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You could also go to the USPS subreddit and ask for advice there
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sl704j
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legaladvice_train
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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hvpsx33
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hvpl0rp
| 1,644,079,990 | 1,644,076,820 | 4 | 3 |
Is he parking on his property or on the street? Is he allowed to park on the street? Can he park on some other part of the street? You said he's on a corner lot. ... Can't he park around the corner?
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You could also go to the USPS subreddit and ask for advice there
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sl704j
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legaladvice_train
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USPS refusing to deliver mail, returning to sender. Complaints to the post office resulted in them going in agreement with the delivery driver. First, this isn't me, but a family member. He stopped getting mail to his residence and made a complaint, the driver said his mail box was obstructed (which was not the case), and instructed the resident he had to park his car somewhere else (which is impossible. Unless he parks on some other property he does not own). Essentially the mail driver was in full refusal so I advised they contact the post office. The local post office manager or whomever "signed off", whatever that means, that all the mail to that address can be returned to sender (?!) Isn't this illegal? I could provide pictures to show the mail box is not obstructed, is fully accessible. What is going on here? What is the next step? Who do I call after the local post office? I just worry about my family member because this sequence of events resulted in his water suddenly being turned off, since he was unaware the bill was past-due. He also is a partner to my LLC, so you can maybe guess why I would be putting in so much effort trying to resolve this issue for him. Thanks in advance!
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hvq5dyx
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hvpl0rp
| 1,644,085,289 | 1,644,076,820 | 4 | 3 |
All he can do is to comply with their request. They can and often do refuse to deliver to problematic addresses. USPS tries to make everything efficient. Most likely his mail is delivered by a carrier inside a vehicle. This person has probably 600 mailboxes to hit and having to shut off the vehicle, safety it, ett could take substantial time even though it may be seconds, they are not designed to deliver around obstacles. Your friend could get a PO Box and forward his mail to it.
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You could also go to the USPS subreddit and ask for advice there
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Post office is refusing to deliver mail go forward to entire street due to neighbor they won't identify, is this legal? Hi all, Recently my post office is refusing to deliver mail to my entire street. They provided us no notice they were no longer going to deliver, they simply stopped. I talked to the post office and they said they will no longer be delivering mail and we will need to come collect it. Supposedly my neighbors dog has tried to attack the mail carrier and the carrier feels it's no longer safe to deliver. I live right next to the mailbox (we have a big metal box shared for the entire street) and am not aware of any dogs near me. I have never heard a dog bark, seen a dog, or anything of the sort when I go to the mailbox daily and either has my roommate. Because of this I asked the post office who the individual was and they said they can not share that information. They also said this stoppage is going to continue (potentially permanently) until the neighbor removes the dog from her home or pays to have the shared mailbox relocated and these ultimatums have been handed down and until something is done there is nothing any of us can do. Apparently this has been an ongoing issue so these are the only remaining options. This simply doesn't sound right to me. Doesn't the post office have a legal obligation to deliver? Can the post office demand someone to get rid of their dog? Shouldn't animal control be involved to resolve this as a middleman on this issue so a remedy can be implemented? My neighbors have all complained but the post office has said this is end of conversation. I know this is a first world complaint but it's difficult to get to the post office when I work full time and every time I go to collect my mail it takes 45 mins. Not sure if this is the right forum since it's not a cut and dry legal issue but I guess I am just wondering if the post office has the legal right to do this and if so what we should all do to resolve! Thanks all! Edit: in Santa Barbara, CA!
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dnnl87p
| 1,506,625,790 | 1,506,649,641 | 13 | 26 |
R/usps may have some good advice for you as well.
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The issue likely wasn't delivering mail to the shared mailbox, but rather when delivering a large package, certified mail, etc to one of the homes on the street. If the USPS doesn't provide more info, you'll likely need to research who has the offending dog. Asking around and walking the street at various times of day, in particular, early morning and evening, since most people walk their dogs. If your street has a nosy neighbor, they'll near certain know who has dogs along with other details. If all else fails, make some small talk with the UPS, FedEx, and other such drivers. Probably best to avoid talk of USPS not delivering, but rather broach the topic in a more general way. Maybe mentioning seeking temporary, seasonal work for one of those companies, and asking about dealing with vicious dogs. Good chance, if the particular neighborhood dog is a frequent problem, it will come up in conversation.
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731yhz
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legaladvice_train
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Post office is refusing to deliver mail go forward to entire street due to neighbor they won't identify, is this legal? Hi all, Recently my post office is refusing to deliver mail to my entire street. They provided us no notice they were no longer going to deliver, they simply stopped. I talked to the post office and they said they will no longer be delivering mail and we will need to come collect it. Supposedly my neighbors dog has tried to attack the mail carrier and the carrier feels it's no longer safe to deliver. I live right next to the mailbox (we have a big metal box shared for the entire street) and am not aware of any dogs near me. I have never heard a dog bark, seen a dog, or anything of the sort when I go to the mailbox daily and either has my roommate. Because of this I asked the post office who the individual was and they said they can not share that information. They also said this stoppage is going to continue (potentially permanently) until the neighbor removes the dog from her home or pays to have the shared mailbox relocated and these ultimatums have been handed down and until something is done there is nothing any of us can do. Apparently this has been an ongoing issue so these are the only remaining options. This simply doesn't sound right to me. Doesn't the post office have a legal obligation to deliver? Can the post office demand someone to get rid of their dog? Shouldn't animal control be involved to resolve this as a middleman on this issue so a remedy can be implemented? My neighbors have all complained but the post office has said this is end of conversation. I know this is a first world complaint but it's difficult to get to the post office when I work full time and every time I go to collect my mail it takes 45 mins. Not sure if this is the right forum since it's not a cut and dry legal issue but I guess I am just wondering if the post office has the legal right to do this and if so what we should all do to resolve! Thanks all! Edit: in Santa Barbara, CA!
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dnnl87p
| 1,506,646,173 | 1,506,649,641 | 11 | 26 |
First, contact the Postmaster. If the Postmaster maintains they do not want to deliver to your street, you may consider a PO Box. Given the circumstances, you can probably get the PO Box for free. If the Postmaster is unhelpful or you don't get the resolution you want, you may consider calling your local Congressman. They can be surprisingly helpful in situations like this.
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The issue likely wasn't delivering mail to the shared mailbox, but rather when delivering a large package, certified mail, etc to one of the homes on the street. If the USPS doesn't provide more info, you'll likely need to research who has the offending dog. Asking around and walking the street at various times of day, in particular, early morning and evening, since most people walk their dogs. If your street has a nosy neighbor, they'll near certain know who has dogs along with other details. If all else fails, make some small talk with the UPS, FedEx, and other such drivers. Probably best to avoid talk of USPS not delivering, but rather broach the topic in a more general way. Maybe mentioning seeking temporary, seasonal work for one of those companies, and asking about dealing with vicious dogs. Good chance, if the particular neighborhood dog is a frequent problem, it will come up in conversation.
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USPS is refusing to deliver mail to my building due to bedbugs; management won't arrange for mail to be held I live in a housing complex in New York City \(7 bldgs, 1 management company\). For the past 3\-4 days \(accounts differ\), no mail has been delivered in my building. I went to the post office to ask about the situation and was told that the mail carrier refuses to deliver here because she believes the mail room is infested by bedbugs. No mail is being held, so we have no way of getting to our mail unless the management company requests that the post office hold the mail. The mail goes out for delivery every day and simply isn't dropped off because the carriers won't enter the building. When I went to the management office, I was told that the mail carrier "was just here, and is distributing the mail now." That was well over an hour ago and there's clearly no mail being delivered and no sign of a carrier on premises. Do we have any legal recourse here? Is the management company violating any laws by failing to arrange for mail delivery? I've never heard of anything like this and frankly have no idea what to do.
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dygfixe
| 1,525,465,971 | 1,525,463,837 | 13 | 7 |
I find it hard to comprehend that mail isn't being held for the entire building. Returning an entire buildings worth of mail to sender every day is insane. I think it is more likely that they are informally holding the mail for the entire building until this is resolved. However, no one is going go delve through that to get your individual mail. I think you should pay them to hold your mail until this is resolved.
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Are there actually bed bugs? If not, then contact the postmaster to see what your resolution is.
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8h0rm3
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USPS is refusing to deliver mail to my building due to bedbugs; management won't arrange for mail to be held I live in a housing complex in New York City \(7 bldgs, 1 management company\). For the past 3\-4 days \(accounts differ\), no mail has been delivered in my building. I went to the post office to ask about the situation and was told that the mail carrier refuses to deliver here because she believes the mail room is infested by bedbugs. No mail is being held, so we have no way of getting to our mail unless the management company requests that the post office hold the mail. The mail goes out for delivery every day and simply isn't dropped off because the carriers won't enter the building. When I went to the management office, I was told that the mail carrier "was just here, and is distributing the mail now." That was well over an hour ago and there's clearly no mail being delivered and no sign of a carrier on premises. Do we have any legal recourse here? Is the management company violating any laws by failing to arrange for mail delivery? I've never heard of anything like this and frankly have no idea what to do.
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dygfixe
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dygjpof
| 1,525,463,837 | 1,525,468,000 | 7 | 9 |
Are there actually bed bugs? If not, then contact the postmaster to see what your resolution is.
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You're right that management would have to request that mail be held for the entire building. But you can have USPS hold the mail for your unit only.
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8h0rm3
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USPS is refusing to deliver mail to my building due to bedbugs; management won't arrange for mail to be held I live in a housing complex in New York City \(7 bldgs, 1 management company\). For the past 3\-4 days \(accounts differ\), no mail has been delivered in my building. I went to the post office to ask about the situation and was told that the mail carrier refuses to deliver here because she believes the mail room is infested by bedbugs. No mail is being held, so we have no way of getting to our mail unless the management company requests that the post office hold the mail. The mail goes out for delivery every day and simply isn't dropped off because the carriers won't enter the building. When I went to the management office, I was told that the mail carrier "was just here, and is distributing the mail now." That was well over an hour ago and there's clearly no mail being delivered and no sign of a carrier on premises. Do we have any legal recourse here? Is the management company violating any laws by failing to arrange for mail delivery? I've never heard of anything like this and frankly have no idea what to do.
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dygs13k
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FYI: I am not a lawyer, but I highly doubt BBs are hanging out in your mail room *unless someone is sleeping there*. BBs are ridiculously lazy and like to live where the food (aka: warm-blooded mammals, such as humans) live, like your mattress, couch, etc. They like to strike when humans are sleeping (as in, not moving around) as they are attracted to the carbon dioxide we exhale. I totally agree with others here that this needs to be escalated, as the mail carrier is paranoid about BBs and does not have their facts straight regarding them. /was an unfortunate early entry into the BB infestation resurgence back in the early '00s and learned quite a bit about them as I eradicated their presence in my home.
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Not a lawyer. Go to the Post Office and ask them to hold the mail for you to pick up, using your apartment number. If that doesn't work, have it forwarded to a PO box that you rent, at the Post Office.
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[NY] Female relative let a man stay in her apartment to get back on his feet, he had mail delivered there and is now refusing to leave. Buffalo, NY I have a relative who is in a tough situation, trying to get a job and pay her bills after losing her job due to medication issues for her mental problems. She lives in an apartment by herself with her two daughters. In the last few months she took in a man and allowed him to sleep on her couch in exchange for a promise of payment, as she badly needed money and felt sympathetic due to him being a recovering alcoholic and having gone through similar times of struggle herself. He has not come up with any money. This is not entirely his fault, it's a combination of problems with his boss and weather (he is a roofer). Still, due to now being a financial drain instead of a source of income, she has asked him to leave. This is where it may become relevant that this is a large, physically imposing man. While he has never used force, she describes him as 'intimidating her', and he has refused to leave stating that he has a right to stay due to having used her place as a mailing address. She's called the police and they agree he has a legal right to stay. In response she says she has begun an eviction procedure. However in the meantime he is eating her food and costing her money she doesn't have, and she is afraid to start any kind of confrontation. She cannot afford a lawyer for this, at all. There is very little possibility of recouping the thousands of dollars this man owes her for rent and expenses, as he has no money and limited ability to obtain a job. All she wants is him out of her house so she can feel safe and stop losing money. Is there anything she can legally do to make that happen faster?
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f68ytgn
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>She lives in an apartment by herself with her two daughters Sounds like she lives there with herself, two daughters, and her adult male tenant. They have a verbal lease agreement for an agreed upon amount of rent. She must evict him like any other month-to-month tenant. If she is violating her lease agreement with her apartment complex, that's not his problem. That's her problem. They can't make him leave, because that's he is a tenant there. Unfortunately, this will be an expensive and painful lesson for your relative.
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While she can't throw him out, she is not required to feed him.
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dqorv2
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[NY] Female relative let a man stay in her apartment to get back on his feet, he had mail delivered there and is now refusing to leave. Buffalo, NY I have a relative who is in a tough situation, trying to get a job and pay her bills after losing her job due to medication issues for her mental problems. She lives in an apartment by herself with her two daughters. In the last few months she took in a man and allowed him to sleep on her couch in exchange for a promise of payment, as she badly needed money and felt sympathetic due to him being a recovering alcoholic and having gone through similar times of struggle herself. He has not come up with any money. This is not entirely his fault, it's a combination of problems with his boss and weather (he is a roofer). Still, due to now being a financial drain instead of a source of income, she has asked him to leave. This is where it may become relevant that this is a large, physically imposing man. While he has never used force, she describes him as 'intimidating her', and he has refused to leave stating that he has a right to stay due to having used her place as a mailing address. She's called the police and they agree he has a legal right to stay. In response she says she has begun an eviction procedure. However in the meantime he is eating her food and costing her money she doesn't have, and she is afraid to start any kind of confrontation. She cannot afford a lawyer for this, at all. There is very little possibility of recouping the thousands of dollars this man owes her for rent and expenses, as he has no money and limited ability to obtain a job. All she wants is him out of her house so she can feel safe and stop losing money. Is there anything she can legally do to make that happen faster?
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f68fwt6
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While she can't throw him out, she is not required to feed him.
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If she’s truly in fear, she should report that to the police and see about a protective order. If he’s just annoying, she needs to go through the eviction process. If he’s stealing her food, she can document it and sue him at the end.
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[NY] Female relative let a man stay in her apartment to get back on his feet, he had mail delivered there and is now refusing to leave. Buffalo, NY I have a relative who is in a tough situation, trying to get a job and pay her bills after losing her job due to medication issues for her mental problems. She lives in an apartment by herself with her two daughters. In the last few months she took in a man and allowed him to sleep on her couch in exchange for a promise of payment, as she badly needed money and felt sympathetic due to him being a recovering alcoholic and having gone through similar times of struggle herself. He has not come up with any money. This is not entirely his fault, it's a combination of problems with his boss and weather (he is a roofer). Still, due to now being a financial drain instead of a source of income, she has asked him to leave. This is where it may become relevant that this is a large, physically imposing man. While he has never used force, she describes him as 'intimidating her', and he has refused to leave stating that he has a right to stay due to having used her place as a mailing address. She's called the police and they agree he has a legal right to stay. In response she says she has begun an eviction procedure. However in the meantime he is eating her food and costing her money she doesn't have, and she is afraid to start any kind of confrontation. She cannot afford a lawyer for this, at all. There is very little possibility of recouping the thousands of dollars this man owes her for rent and expenses, as he has no money and limited ability to obtain a job. All she wants is him out of her house so she can feel safe and stop losing money. Is there anything she can legally do to make that happen faster?
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f69et64
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If she’s truly in fear, she should report that to the police and see about a protective order. If he’s just annoying, she needs to go through the eviction process. If he’s stealing her food, she can document it and sue him at the end.
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I am not a lawyer, but I am a rental property owner in Buffalo that has dealt with eviction before. If he has been there 30+ days, he’s considered to be a tenant. She will need to go down to city court (it’s on Delaware Ave near city hall) and file for an eviction. If it’s an eviction for non-payment of rent, she’ll get a court date in 10-14 days. If it’s for anything other than that, she’s looking at up to six weeks for a court date. She doesn’t need a lawyer to do this. There are forms at the clerks office (near the metal detectors that are at the parking garage entrance) and the clerks will help guide her. Her best bet is a cash for keys deal mentioned in other comments. Edit to add: burden of proof of payment is on the tenant in Buffalo. She should evict for non-payment. He’ll be out of there in 45 days or less from the date she first files.
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dqorv2
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[NY] Female relative let a man stay in her apartment to get back on his feet, he had mail delivered there and is now refusing to leave. Buffalo, NY I have a relative who is in a tough situation, trying to get a job and pay her bills after losing her job due to medication issues for her mental problems. She lives in an apartment by herself with her two daughters. In the last few months she took in a man and allowed him to sleep on her couch in exchange for a promise of payment, as she badly needed money and felt sympathetic due to him being a recovering alcoholic and having gone through similar times of struggle herself. He has not come up with any money. This is not entirely his fault, it's a combination of problems with his boss and weather (he is a roofer). Still, due to now being a financial drain instead of a source of income, she has asked him to leave. This is where it may become relevant that this is a large, physically imposing man. While he has never used force, she describes him as 'intimidating her', and he has refused to leave stating that he has a right to stay due to having used her place as a mailing address. She's called the police and they agree he has a legal right to stay. In response she says she has begun an eviction procedure. However in the meantime he is eating her food and costing her money she doesn't have, and she is afraid to start any kind of confrontation. She cannot afford a lawyer for this, at all. There is very little possibility of recouping the thousands of dollars this man owes her for rent and expenses, as he has no money and limited ability to obtain a job. All she wants is him out of her house so she can feel safe and stop losing money. Is there anything she can legally do to make that happen faster?
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I am not a lawyer, but I am a rental property owner in Buffalo that has dealt with eviction before. If he has been there 30+ days, he’s considered to be a tenant. She will need to go down to city court (it’s on Delaware Ave near city hall) and file for an eviction. If it’s an eviction for non-payment of rent, she’ll get a court date in 10-14 days. If it’s for anything other than that, she’s looking at up to six weeks for a court date. She doesn’t need a lawyer to do this. There are forms at the clerks office (near the metal detectors that are at the parking garage entrance) and the clerks will help guide her. Her best bet is a cash for keys deal mentioned in other comments. Edit to add: burden of proof of payment is on the tenant in Buffalo. She should evict for non-payment. He’ll be out of there in 45 days or less from the date she first files.
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Is their agreement a monthly rent or a weekly rent agreement? She may be able to get him out sooner if it's a weekly agreement. I know that the laws are different for Florida as in New York, but there may be something she can look into as a way to have him out sooner if it's a weekly rent agreement.
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chmmtk
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NY: package delivered to previous address, current tenant is refusing to return it I moved a month ago. I forgot to update my address with my pharmacy and they ended up delivering some prescribed medication in my name to my previous address. The building's concierge signed for the package and then delivered it to the apartment's current tenant, who also signed for it in the building's system. This was 2 days ago. ​ So far, the concierge has called the tenant three times, they said they have the package but they always come up with some excuse and haven't returned it yet, they sound unwillingly to do so. By now, I think it's possible they will just want to keep it or say they threw it away. They know it's a pharmacy package because it surely says so in the package label but they don't care. ​ About the medicine: all of it is prescribed and in my name but I believe there's no controlled substance. My healthcare plan paid for most of it, my co-pay was around $100. If they don't return it, I'll need to ask my doctor to resend the prescription, talk to my plan to pay for it again (I don't know if they will) and pay for the $100 co-pay again. ​ My questions: \- What are my legal options if they decide not to return it? \- How long should I wait until taking action? So far, one roommate said they couldn't find the package, the other said they were at work and would resolve it when they got home but then nothing happened. Should I wait 1 day more? \- I have renter's insurance. Would it be something I could file a claim for the stolen $100 value (maybe more if my plan doesn't allow me to buy the medicine again and I have to pay for all of it)? ​ Thanks.
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euvb1w3
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> What are my legal options if they decide not to return it? Call the police. This is theft. > How long should I wait until taking action? So far, one roommate said they couldn't find the package, the other said they were at work and would resolve it when they got home but then nothing happened. Should I wait 1 day more? No. Don't wait. Do it now. You should have done it two days ago. The thieves have helpfully provided proof of their acts. > I have renter's insurance. Would it be something I could file a claim for the stolen $100 value (maybe more if my plan doesn't allow me to buy the medicine again and I have to pay for all of it)? It seems unlikely that your renters insurance would cover this. If it did, I would also assume it has a higher deductible than $100, and presumably your premiums will go up as a result of the claim. So this doesn't seem like a good idea.
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This is not for renter's insurance. File a police report. Call your health insurance about the situation, not renter's. They will instruct you on what to do. If this is something that needs to be taken ASAP there may be a way for you to get some of a new prescription to hold you over. The absolute best course of action after the police is to call insurance from the pharmacy to work it out together until the rest is settled.
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chmmtk
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NY: package delivered to previous address, current tenant is refusing to return it I moved a month ago. I forgot to update my address with my pharmacy and they ended up delivering some prescribed medication in my name to my previous address. The building's concierge signed for the package and then delivered it to the apartment's current tenant, who also signed for it in the building's system. This was 2 days ago. ​ So far, the concierge has called the tenant three times, they said they have the package but they always come up with some excuse and haven't returned it yet, they sound unwillingly to do so. By now, I think it's possible they will just want to keep it or say they threw it away. They know it's a pharmacy package because it surely says so in the package label but they don't care. ​ About the medicine: all of it is prescribed and in my name but I believe there's no controlled substance. My healthcare plan paid for most of it, my co-pay was around $100. If they don't return it, I'll need to ask my doctor to resend the prescription, talk to my plan to pay for it again (I don't know if they will) and pay for the $100 co-pay again. ​ My questions: \- What are my legal options if they decide not to return it? \- How long should I wait until taking action? So far, one roommate said they couldn't find the package, the other said they were at work and would resolve it when they got home but then nothing happened. Should I wait 1 day more? \- I have renter's insurance. Would it be something I could file a claim for the stolen $100 value (maybe more if my plan doesn't allow me to buy the medicine again and I have to pay for all of it)? ​ Thanks.
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euvb7hg
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euva7vm
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> What are my legal options if they decide not to return it? Call the police. This is theft. > How long should I wait until taking action? So far, one roommate said they couldn't find the package, the other said they were at work and would resolve it when they got home but then nothing happened. Should I wait 1 day more? No. Don't wait. Do it now. You should have done it two days ago. The thieves have helpfully provided proof of their acts. > I have renter's insurance. Would it be something I could file a claim for the stolen $100 value (maybe more if my plan doesn't allow me to buy the medicine again and I have to pay for all of it)? It seems unlikely that your renters insurance would cover this. If it did, I would also assume it has a higher deductible than $100, and presumably your premiums will go up as a result of the claim. So this doesn't seem like a good idea.
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A quick note on the insurance. Your deductible is probably more than the $100, and since it wasn't stolen from your home that seems like a stretch as a claim anyway. Also, any claims you make will lead to higher future premiums, it's why many people try to pay out of pocket for small things and not get insurance companies involved if they can.
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chmmtk
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NY: package delivered to previous address, current tenant is refusing to return it I moved a month ago. I forgot to update my address with my pharmacy and they ended up delivering some prescribed medication in my name to my previous address. The building's concierge signed for the package and then delivered it to the apartment's current tenant, who also signed for it in the building's system. This was 2 days ago. ​ So far, the concierge has called the tenant three times, they said they have the package but they always come up with some excuse and haven't returned it yet, they sound unwillingly to do so. By now, I think it's possible they will just want to keep it or say they threw it away. They know it's a pharmacy package because it surely says so in the package label but they don't care. ​ About the medicine: all of it is prescribed and in my name but I believe there's no controlled substance. My healthcare plan paid for most of it, my co-pay was around $100. If they don't return it, I'll need to ask my doctor to resend the prescription, talk to my plan to pay for it again (I don't know if they will) and pay for the $100 co-pay again. ​ My questions: \- What are my legal options if they decide not to return it? \- How long should I wait until taking action? So far, one roommate said they couldn't find the package, the other said they were at work and would resolve it when they got home but then nothing happened. Should I wait 1 day more? \- I have renter's insurance. Would it be something I could file a claim for the stolen $100 value (maybe more if my plan doesn't allow me to buy the medicine again and I have to pay for all of it)? ​ Thanks.
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euvb1w3
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euva7vm
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This is not for renter's insurance. File a police report. Call your health insurance about the situation, not renter's. They will instruct you on what to do. If this is something that needs to be taken ASAP there may be a way for you to get some of a new prescription to hold you over. The absolute best course of action after the police is to call insurance from the pharmacy to work it out together until the rest is settled.
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A quick note on the insurance. Your deductible is probably more than the $100, and since it wasn't stolen from your home that seems like a stretch as a claim anyway. Also, any claims you make will lead to higher future premiums, it's why many people try to pay out of pocket for small things and not get insurance companies involved if they can.
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chmmtk
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NY: package delivered to previous address, current tenant is refusing to return it I moved a month ago. I forgot to update my address with my pharmacy and they ended up delivering some prescribed medication in my name to my previous address. The building's concierge signed for the package and then delivered it to the apartment's current tenant, who also signed for it in the building's system. This was 2 days ago. ​ So far, the concierge has called the tenant three times, they said they have the package but they always come up with some excuse and haven't returned it yet, they sound unwillingly to do so. By now, I think it's possible they will just want to keep it or say they threw it away. They know it's a pharmacy package because it surely says so in the package label but they don't care. ​ About the medicine: all of it is prescribed and in my name but I believe there's no controlled substance. My healthcare plan paid for most of it, my co-pay was around $100. If they don't return it, I'll need to ask my doctor to resend the prescription, talk to my plan to pay for it again (I don't know if they will) and pay for the $100 co-pay again. ​ My questions: \- What are my legal options if they decide not to return it? \- How long should I wait until taking action? So far, one roommate said they couldn't find the package, the other said they were at work and would resolve it when they got home but then nothing happened. Should I wait 1 day more? \- I have renter's insurance. Would it be something I could file a claim for the stolen $100 value (maybe more if my plan doesn't allow me to buy the medicine again and I have to pay for all of it)? ​ Thanks.
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euva7vm
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euvblub
| 1,564,057,751 | 1,564,058,325 | 11 | 24 |
A quick note on the insurance. Your deductible is probably more than the $100, and since it wasn't stolen from your home that seems like a stretch as a claim anyway. Also, any claims you make will lead to higher future premiums, it's why many people try to pay out of pocket for small things and not get insurance companies involved if they can.
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(1) Was it sent via US Postal Service or a commercial courier service? If USPS, contact the USPS Inspector General—It’s a crime to keep *mail* sent to someone else. If the wrong address was listed, the correct thing to do is leave it in your mailbox with a “wrong address, return to sender” note. If a commercial courier, they might have insurance on it with the pharmacy. Contact the pharmacy. (2) How soon do you need these meds? Try to schedule with the roommates when they will be there, so you can pick them up. Waiting one more day probably won’t hurt, but in a lot of these situations Time is always running against you. (3) I’m not sure your renter’s insurance would cover this. It seems like it was your mistake to have the package sent to the wrong address by failing to update your information. If it won’t cover you for that, DO NOT tell the insurance company that it was stolen from your residence.
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chmmtk
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NY: package delivered to previous address, current tenant is refusing to return it I moved a month ago. I forgot to update my address with my pharmacy and they ended up delivering some prescribed medication in my name to my previous address. The building's concierge signed for the package and then delivered it to the apartment's current tenant, who also signed for it in the building's system. This was 2 days ago. ​ So far, the concierge has called the tenant three times, they said they have the package but they always come up with some excuse and haven't returned it yet, they sound unwillingly to do so. By now, I think it's possible they will just want to keep it or say they threw it away. They know it's a pharmacy package because it surely says so in the package label but they don't care. ​ About the medicine: all of it is prescribed and in my name but I believe there's no controlled substance. My healthcare plan paid for most of it, my co-pay was around $100. If they don't return it, I'll need to ask my doctor to resend the prescription, talk to my plan to pay for it again (I don't know if they will) and pay for the $100 co-pay again. ​ My questions: \- What are my legal options if they decide not to return it? \- How long should I wait until taking action? So far, one roommate said they couldn't find the package, the other said they were at work and would resolve it when they got home but then nothing happened. Should I wait 1 day more? \- I have renter's insurance. Would it be something I could file a claim for the stolen $100 value (maybe more if my plan doesn't allow me to buy the medicine again and I have to pay for all of it)? ​ Thanks.
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euva7vm
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euvk7go
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A quick note on the insurance. Your deductible is probably more than the $100, and since it wasn't stolen from your home that seems like a stretch as a claim anyway. Also, any claims you make will lead to higher future premiums, it's why many people try to pay out of pocket for small things and not get insurance companies involved if they can.
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The value of your meds is the full cost of the meds, not just your portion of the cost. Your medical insurance will most likely not cover the cost of a second filling of your prescription in a month.
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chmmtk
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NY: package delivered to previous address, current tenant is refusing to return it I moved a month ago. I forgot to update my address with my pharmacy and they ended up delivering some prescribed medication in my name to my previous address. The building's concierge signed for the package and then delivered it to the apartment's current tenant, who also signed for it in the building's system. This was 2 days ago. ​ So far, the concierge has called the tenant three times, they said they have the package but they always come up with some excuse and haven't returned it yet, they sound unwillingly to do so. By now, I think it's possible they will just want to keep it or say they threw it away. They know it's a pharmacy package because it surely says so in the package label but they don't care. ​ About the medicine: all of it is prescribed and in my name but I believe there's no controlled substance. My healthcare plan paid for most of it, my co-pay was around $100. If they don't return it, I'll need to ask my doctor to resend the prescription, talk to my plan to pay for it again (I don't know if they will) and pay for the $100 co-pay again. ​ My questions: \- What are my legal options if they decide not to return it? \- How long should I wait until taking action? So far, one roommate said they couldn't find the package, the other said they were at work and would resolve it when they got home but then nothing happened. Should I wait 1 day more? \- I have renter's insurance. Would it be something I could file a claim for the stolen $100 value (maybe more if my plan doesn't allow me to buy the medicine again and I have to pay for all of it)? ​ Thanks.
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euw0xjb
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>talk to my plan to pay for it again (I don't know if they will) and pay for the $100 co-pay again. I really doubt they will pay for it again. I think you’ll be responsible for the whole amount.
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In addition to what some people are saying here, your doctor, to protect his own liablility, may require you to show a police report before he will issue you another prescription for the meds (too often people claim meds were stolen to get more than they need) But it sounds like you are relying on the word of the concierge, who might not be telling you the truth. Have you tried simply calling the person yourself or knocking on their door to ask for the meds back?
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rhgjaf
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Is it illegal for my mom to pull money out of her dying boyfriends bank account that she lives with? My mom's long-time live in boyfriend (m50) had sudden cardiac arrest and I've been told he's not going to make it. He was suppose to put her as the joint account holder on his account but it doesn't look like he did (I'm checking his online account). He wouldn't have done this maliciously but probably hadn't got to it yet. She has his debt cards, pin number and bank info. Can she pull the $16k out of his account in money orders? Or at least some of it? She has to pay their utilities and rent he usually covers. He doesn't have health insurance and the hospital bills will probably be high. I'm also not sure how my mom will pay for the funeral. He also has a will that leaves everything to my mom but all he has is what's in his bank account and it doesn't sound like it was notarized. They clearly really weren't prepared for this. Is it legal if my Mom pulls out this money? I know it will alert the IRS but I figure if it's legal that doesn't matter? I just want to make sure she isn't going to get into legal trouble. He is estranged from most of his family.
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hoqljhe
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If she's not on the back account, she can get in trouble for taking money from the account. His next if kin (children- even if they don't talk) will be responsible for closing his bank accounts and everything abd they will most likely look at the transactions. Especially if there's little to no money in it and will try to find out why.
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It would be illegal but it's hard to say who would have an interest in filing charges against her about this. Perhaps a better solution would be for her to make a copy of the current account balance/bank statement so she can have it as backup paperwork when she applies for a loan from a bank or credit union. The money is eventually going to be hers anyway. If the will does not designate who he wanted to be as executor, she can do that herself or hire a probate attorney to do it. Executor fee will be 5% of estate value and that will be paid out of whatever monies are put into the estate bank account. Executor can pay the funeral bill and whatever other debts exist and then she gets to keep what is left over.
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rhgjaf
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Is it illegal for my mom to pull money out of her dying boyfriends bank account that she lives with? My mom's long-time live in boyfriend (m50) had sudden cardiac arrest and I've been told he's not going to make it. He was suppose to put her as the joint account holder on his account but it doesn't look like he did (I'm checking his online account). He wouldn't have done this maliciously but probably hadn't got to it yet. She has his debt cards, pin number and bank info. Can she pull the $16k out of his account in money orders? Or at least some of it? She has to pay their utilities and rent he usually covers. He doesn't have health insurance and the hospital bills will probably be high. I'm also not sure how my mom will pay for the funeral. He also has a will that leaves everything to my mom but all he has is what's in his bank account and it doesn't sound like it was notarized. They clearly really weren't prepared for this. Is it legal if my Mom pulls out this money? I know it will alert the IRS but I figure if it's legal that doesn't matter? I just want to make sure she isn't going to get into legal trouble. He is estranged from most of his family.
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hoql3y7
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hoqljhe
| 1,639,627,141 | 1,639,627,355 | 4 | 9 |
She would be better off waiting until he passes to get it. Then it will become part of his estate and she can claim it as part of settling the estate - which she would get given the will you mentioned.
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It would be illegal but it's hard to say who would have an interest in filing charges against her about this. Perhaps a better solution would be for her to make a copy of the current account balance/bank statement so she can have it as backup paperwork when she applies for a loan from a bank or credit union. The money is eventually going to be hers anyway. If the will does not designate who he wanted to be as executor, she can do that herself or hire a probate attorney to do it. Executor fee will be 5% of estate value and that will be paid out of whatever monies are put into the estate bank account. Executor can pay the funeral bill and whatever other debts exist and then she gets to keep what is left over.
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zr39x3
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Boyfriend is still in process of divorce but can't find his ex-wife. KY. What are the options? My boyfriend lives in KY and so does his Ex. His ex needs to be served but the sheriff's department says they've been out 3 separate occasions to serve her but she was nowhere to be found. His lawyer isn't giving much help into providing advice. What are the options that he'll have to face in KY in order to get this processed?
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j11euwm
| 1,671,597,325 | 1,671,579,054 | 15 | 2 |
His lawyer could hire an investigator to locate the ex and move for a special process server to be appointed in order to serve her. Often sheriff’s departments will put forth very little effort in service. Special process servers will be much more likely to successfully get service.
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Not a lawyer. Do you know where the works? Have her served there.
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o9t2hn
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My brother died, he owned a home and we need to terminate my cousin's tenancy but don't know if we have standing to do so. Also, what about rent? ILLINOIS. Hi, I found another question similar to this but nobody answered it. I'm not new to Reddit but I am using a throwaway as a precaution. ​ My brother owned a home he was still making mortgage payments on. He died unexpectedly. He recently invited our cousin to live with him. We (my parents/siblings) have nothing against our cousin, but we'd like him to leave for reasons I won't get into. He was paying a little rent and we have gathered that since he is a tenant he has rights. We'd like to give him notice, (no less than 70 days, which is more than sufficient IMO) but we aren't sure if we have the right to do so since we aren't his landlords. My brother didn't have a will and had no children. I'm vaguely aware of terms like next-of-kin and probate, and this vague awareness makes me think that even if the house goes to next of kin (my parents???) it doesn't do that immediately. My questions are: 1) do my parents or I have standing to kick my cousin? and 2) If we have standing to kick him, do we have to wait for probate to end to give him notice? and 3) should his rent payments go to us and how do we communicate this fact to him? Certain members of our family have told him he doesn't have to pay us and he's the type to take favorable advice at face value.
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h3d7uvc
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None of you have standing or any legal rights here unless you’ve been appointed as administrator of the estate by the courts. Whoever is appointed to handle your brothers estate can handle your cousins tenancy.
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Right now, your brother's home (and everything else he owned) is the property of an entity called Estate of Brother's Name. Someone had to be appointed to be in charge of the estate. That person, as the legal representative of the estate, has the right to initiate formal eviction procedures, as set out in state and local laws. The person willing to be in charge of the estate petitions for appointment with the probate court in the ~~country~~ county where Brother lived. There is a certain amount of legal rigmarole involved. When the appointment is made, the person gets a piece of paper called Letters of Administration. That gives you the right to act on behalf of the estate. The administrator's duties are to inventory assets & debts; pay debts using estate assets; and distribute what's left to the heirs. That's a simplified description of probate. If his entire estate is worth less than $100,000, there is a simpler process. Without a will (he was "intestate"), state law determines who his heirs are. It will be his parents. They also have first priority to petition the probate court to be appointed as administrators of his estate (only need for one person to be appointed, not both parents). If your parents aren't up to it, you and/or other siblings have next priority. He should send his rent in the usual way, until an estate administrator is appointed. At that pint, you can instruct him to make payments to "Estate of Bother's Name." You are going to need an estate checking account as soon as you can get one. The administrator should then transfer all money into the estate account and transfer funds to the new account. You may find it useful to work with an estate or probate attorney, not only to get the appointment paperwork done correctly, but to set up rent payments correctly and to be sure that eviction is done the correct way. If you miss a detail on eviction, you might have to start all over again. Attorney fees are paid by the estate, although the attorney may ask for an upfront retainer. How do I settle an estate after someone dies? from Illinois Legal Aid may be helpful.
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neighbor built driveway and road on my property, bulldozed a road across and cut down trees Asked in tree law, but wanted more legal advice. I live in missouri. I inherited a property with two lots and house sitting between the two. This property is vacant and was fully wooded. Went over to mow grass and pickup leaves yesterday and noticed a lot more light coming from behind the property. Walked around and saw a road had been bulldozed across it, and all the trees in a fenced in yard had been dropped. Just cut down and left there. The new neighbor built a driveway across his property into mine, by bulldozing land and put up a retaining wall of concrete blocks, of which 75 feet is on my land according to the survey pins. In addition from his driveway, he bulldozed a road across both lots to other neighbors yard. There was a solar street light mounted on a pole on my lot, a picnic table, a stack of ladders locked up , and his two vehicles are sitting on my property, again according to pins placed by his survey company when he bought house. We removed all his property except for vehicles, waiting for survey company to establish boundary, then will tow. We placed no tresspassing signs on fence and painted purple on fence and stumps in yard, the color for no tresspassing in missouri. I am hiring a surveyor to place new boundary pins, and looking for a lawyer versed in real property law and tree law. Just frustrated with this change of events and want this done. How do you find a lawyer versed in real property and tree law. What are my rights and next steps. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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gz9oktm
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You can look up real property attorneys on your state bar's website. If you used a lawyer for the inheritance you may want to start there.
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Your new neighbor bulldozed through your two lots to the next one down the line? Sounds strange, why does he need access to the other guy’s land? Does he have an easement or right of way? Is his parcel landlocked? You’d be best served taking all the pictures you can and bringing the case to a real estate attorney. You’re solidly outside of small claims court territory ($5000 maximum). Either talk to friends to see if they know a good lawyer, or the Bar usually has an attorney referral service.
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njwi5b
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neighbor built driveway and road on my property, bulldozed a road across and cut down trees Asked in tree law, but wanted more legal advice. I live in missouri. I inherited a property with two lots and house sitting between the two. This property is vacant and was fully wooded. Went over to mow grass and pickup leaves yesterday and noticed a lot more light coming from behind the property. Walked around and saw a road had been bulldozed across it, and all the trees in a fenced in yard had been dropped. Just cut down and left there. The new neighbor built a driveway across his property into mine, by bulldozing land and put up a retaining wall of concrete blocks, of which 75 feet is on my land according to the survey pins. In addition from his driveway, he bulldozed a road across both lots to other neighbors yard. There was a solar street light mounted on a pole on my lot, a picnic table, a stack of ladders locked up , and his two vehicles are sitting on my property, again according to pins placed by his survey company when he bought house. We removed all his property except for vehicles, waiting for survey company to establish boundary, then will tow. We placed no tresspassing signs on fence and painted purple on fence and stumps in yard, the color for no tresspassing in missouri. I am hiring a surveyor to place new boundary pins, and looking for a lawyer versed in real property law and tree law. Just frustrated with this change of events and want this done. How do you find a lawyer versed in real property and tree law. What are my rights and next steps. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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gz9khob
| 1,621,875,172 | 1,621,859,136 | 118 | 41 |
Before you get too hopped up on tree law, recognize that there is a big difference between the value you can get for, say, a maple tree in the middle of a forest and a similar maple tree growing in your front yard. The one in your front yard is generally done on replacement cost while the one in the middle of the forest is generally done on timber value. Your damages are generally going to be the cost of restoring the area to its previous condition (removing concrete blocks, restoring grade, etc....). But, you asked how you find a lawyer versed in real property and tree law. Ignore the tree law -- find a mid-sized litigation firm in your area.
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You can look up real property attorneys on your state bar's website. If you used a lawyer for the inheritance you may want to start there.
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mnnhho
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My neighbor, also has 10 acres but his home is approx.150 ft from my property line.He has been cutting down trees on my property for 5+years. We have gone over the property line with him 2x’s a year, every year. I recorded,our conversations. Advice please
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gtym0xe
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Make sure to get an arborist involved to evaluate the value of the trees he stole from you.
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Tree law is your friend here. Consult with a specialist lawyer - you could potentially receive a lot of money if you sue. As for the land, you may have some claims involving trespass.
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mnnhho
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My neighbor, also has 10 acres but his home is approx.150 ft from my property line.He has been cutting down trees on my property for 5+years. We have gone over the property line with him 2x’s a year, every year. I recorded,our conversations. Advice please
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gu055v1
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gtzievy
| 1,618,022,109 | 1,618,009,581 | 35 | 29 |
You can call an arborist to value the trees he cut down and sue for that. Also you can serve him with an official trespass warning, using certified mail. It seems you need to take this to the next level since being polite isn't working.
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You might consider getting a few IP cameras to point around the property so you can document any further trespassing and timber theft.
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mnnhho
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My neighbor, also has 10 acres but his home is approx.150 ft from my property line.He has been cutting down trees on my property for 5+years. We have gone over the property line with him 2x’s a year, every year. I recorded,our conversations. Advice please
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gu0nqpc
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gu0fd8y
| 1,618,034,883 | 1,618,028,448 | 17 | 12 |
Log everything and keep all legal papers. Also get a hold of the forestry department of your state and tell them you'd like to set up a sanctuary and the trees are needed for that and if he cuts your trees down again he will get in huge trouble for altering protected land.
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Don’t forget the purple paint law. Purple paint on trees on your property line=no trespassing
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mnnhho
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
My neighbor, also has 10 acres but his home is approx.150 ft from my property line.He has been cutting down trees on my property for 5+years. We have gone over the property line with him 2x’s a year, every year. I recorded,our conversations. Advice please
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gu0nqpc
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gu060xl
| 1,618,034,883 | 1,618,022,605 | 17 | 11 |
Log everything and keep all legal papers. Also get a hold of the forestry department of your state and tell them you'd like to set up a sanctuary and the trees are needed for that and if he cuts your trees down again he will get in huge trouble for altering protected land.
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Not a lawyer, but PA has very strict wiretapping laws and it’s a felony to record a conversation without the consent of all parties.
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mnnhho
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
My neighbor, also has 10 acres but his home is approx.150 ft from my property line.He has been cutting down trees on my property for 5+years. We have gone over the property line with him 2x’s a year, every year. I recorded,our conversations. Advice please
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gu0beds
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gu0nqpc
| 1,618,025,816 | 1,618,034,883 | 11 | 17 |
Fences make good neighbors. It’ll clearly mark the property line.
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Log everything and keep all legal papers. Also get a hold of the forestry department of your state and tell them you'd like to set up a sanctuary and the trees are needed for that and if he cuts your trees down again he will get in huge trouble for altering protected land.
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mnnhho
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
My neighbor, also has 10 acres but his home is approx.150 ft from my property line.He has been cutting down trees on my property for 5+years. We have gone over the property line with him 2x’s a year, every year. I recorded,our conversations. Advice please
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gu0nqpc
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gu0klr9
| 1,618,034,883 | 1,618,032,304 | 17 | 6 |
Log everything and keep all legal papers. Also get a hold of the forestry department of your state and tell them you'd like to set up a sanctuary and the trees are needed for that and if he cuts your trees down again he will get in huge trouble for altering protected land.
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I haven’t seen it suggested but besides cameras have you considered installing a fence?
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mnnhho
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
My neighbor, also has 10 acres but his home is approx.150 ft from my property line.He has been cutting down trees on my property for 5+years. We have gone over the property line with him 2x’s a year, every year. I recorded,our conversations. Advice please
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gu0fd8y
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gu060xl
| 1,618,028,448 | 1,618,022,605 | 12 | 11 |
Don’t forget the purple paint law. Purple paint on trees on your property line=no trespassing
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Not a lawyer, but PA has very strict wiretapping laws and it’s a felony to record a conversation without the consent of all parties.
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mnnhho
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
My neighbor, also has 10 acres but his home is approx.150 ft from my property line.He has been cutting down trees on my property for 5+years. We have gone over the property line with him 2x’s a year, every year. I recorded,our conversations. Advice please
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gu0fd8y
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gu0beds
| 1,618,028,448 | 1,618,025,816 | 12 | 11 |
Don’t forget the purple paint law. Purple paint on trees on your property line=no trespassing
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Fences make good neighbors. It’ll clearly mark the property line.
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4dbqui
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My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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d1ph1u5
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d1ph29e
| 1,459,786,699 | 1,459,786,715 | 13 | 607 |
I am not a lawyer but I don't think they should go. If Neighbour wants to discuss his options with a lawyer, let him. If he actually serves them then your folks should get an attorney of their own and respond, but until/unless that happens, they shouldn't engage with Neighbour at all, and definitely not with Neighbour's lawyer.
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There is no realistic upside to attending that meeting. Theoretically, I suppose that your parents might be able to convince the opposing attorney that his position is incorrect, but it is unlikely. The opposing attorney works for your neighbor and will only be governed from that point of view. Best strategy is to ignore the request to attend. If the neighbor sues (unlikely, since if the lawyer had a case, they'd sue outright) only then should your parents hire a lawyer to represent them. Going to this meeting won't convince the neighbor of anything and could only make things worse.
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4dbqui
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legaladvice_train
| 0.95 |
My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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d1phznq
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d1ph3ja
| 1,459,787,967 | 1,459,786,763 | 340 | 51 |
UNLESS THEY GET SERVED ignore the neighbor.
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Generally, the location of the tree trunk determines who owns the tree, regardless of roots or branches encroaching onto neighboring property. Personally, I think your parents really have no reason to entertain this letter from the attorney or the neighbors and can do whatever they want, so long as the trunk is on their side of the property line. I wouldn't go. But it's always best to try to come to a reasonable solution when permanent neighbors are involved, so if they choose to go to the meeting have them listen to the concerns of the neighbors and explain their reasons for cutting it down calmly and rationally. If it degenerates into threats of lawsuits, have them explain that the trees are located on their property, and that they can do whatever they want with them, and that they are ending the meeting until they can meet with their own attorney. ETA: If the tree trunk straddles the property line, they jointly own the tree and are responsible to each other for any damage to the tree, so the above really only applies if the trunk is located within the property line of your parents' property.
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4dbqui
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| 0.95 |
My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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d1phc9j
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d1phznq
| 1,459,787,088 | 1,459,787,967 | 39 | 340 |
They should either attend with legal representation of their own or not at all.
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UNLESS THEY GET SERVED ignore the neighbor.
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4dbqui
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legaladvice_train
| 0.95 |
My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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d1phznq
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d1ph1u5
| 1,459,787,967 | 1,459,786,699 | 340 | 13 |
UNLESS THEY GET SERVED ignore the neighbor.
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I am not a lawyer but I don't think they should go. If Neighbour wants to discuss his options with a lawyer, let him. If he actually serves them then your folks should get an attorney of their own and respond, but until/unless that happens, they shouldn't engage with Neighbour at all, and definitely not with Neighbour's lawyer.
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4dbqui
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legaladvice_train
| 0.95 |
My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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d1ph3ja
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d1pjdvp
| 1,459,786,763 | 1,459,789,844 | 51 | 53 |
Generally, the location of the tree trunk determines who owns the tree, regardless of roots or branches encroaching onto neighboring property. Personally, I think your parents really have no reason to entertain this letter from the attorney or the neighbors and can do whatever they want, so long as the trunk is on their side of the property line. I wouldn't go. But it's always best to try to come to a reasonable solution when permanent neighbors are involved, so if they choose to go to the meeting have them listen to the concerns of the neighbors and explain their reasons for cutting it down calmly and rationally. If it degenerates into threats of lawsuits, have them explain that the trees are located on their property, and that they can do whatever they want with them, and that they are ending the meeting until they can meet with their own attorney. ETA: If the tree trunk straddles the property line, they jointly own the tree and are responsible to each other for any damage to the tree, so the above really only applies if the trunk is located within the property line of your parents' property.
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I second all of the advice given. It's a bad idea to go to this meeting unless they bring their own lawyer with them. So long as the trunk was entirely within the property that belongs to your parents the neighbor has no case. Meanwhile (see below) while the neighbor can claim fallen fruit for his own he has no legal right to it's continued existence. They should really be telling the neighbor to pound sand. This guide wa sproduced by the town of North Branch, MN says the location of the trunk determines ownership. More definitively the MN Bar Association (the governing body for lawyers) also states that the location of the trunk determines ownership. It also has a section on fallen fruit. Specifically "Neighbors may disagree as to who has the right to the apples or other fruit growing on an encroaching tree branch. The rule of thumb is that if the tree trunk stands in a neighbor's yard, all of the fruit wherever it is hanging belongs to the neighbor.10 Picking the fruit may not be so simple. Ownership of the fruit does not give the neighbor any right to trespass onto your client's property to retrieve the fruit. Courts would probably weigh the right to keep trespassers out of your client's yard against the tree owner's right to harvest the fruit of her tree. The orchard owner whose livelihood depends upon the harvest probably has a stronger claim than an urban gardener. The law is also unclear on the issue of fallen fruit. As a practical matter, it would not be worthwhile for a neighbor to sue your client for keeping fallen fruit, because it would have nominal value. The courts would probably hold the tree owner responsible for making advance arrangements to harvest the fruit if it had sufficient value to bother with. Your client is probably safe to keep the fallen fruit if his neighbor says nothing about it. As with most neighbor disputes, the best counsel you can give is to encourage communication and neighborliness."
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4dbqui
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legaladvice_train
| 0.95 |
My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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d1phc9j
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d1pjdvp
| 1,459,787,088 | 1,459,789,844 | 39 | 53 |
They should either attend with legal representation of their own or not at all.
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I second all of the advice given. It's a bad idea to go to this meeting unless they bring their own lawyer with them. So long as the trunk was entirely within the property that belongs to your parents the neighbor has no case. Meanwhile (see below) while the neighbor can claim fallen fruit for his own he has no legal right to it's continued existence. They should really be telling the neighbor to pound sand. This guide wa sproduced by the town of North Branch, MN says the location of the trunk determines ownership. More definitively the MN Bar Association (the governing body for lawyers) also states that the location of the trunk determines ownership. It also has a section on fallen fruit. Specifically "Neighbors may disagree as to who has the right to the apples or other fruit growing on an encroaching tree branch. The rule of thumb is that if the tree trunk stands in a neighbor's yard, all of the fruit wherever it is hanging belongs to the neighbor.10 Picking the fruit may not be so simple. Ownership of the fruit does not give the neighbor any right to trespass onto your client's property to retrieve the fruit. Courts would probably weigh the right to keep trespassers out of your client's yard against the tree owner's right to harvest the fruit of her tree. The orchard owner whose livelihood depends upon the harvest probably has a stronger claim than an urban gardener. The law is also unclear on the issue of fallen fruit. As a practical matter, it would not be worthwhile for a neighbor to sue your client for keeping fallen fruit, because it would have nominal value. The courts would probably hold the tree owner responsible for making advance arrangements to harvest the fruit if it had sufficient value to bother with. Your client is probably safe to keep the fallen fruit if his neighbor says nothing about it. As with most neighbor disputes, the best counsel you can give is to encourage communication and neighborliness."
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4dbqui
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legaladvice_train
| 0.95 |
My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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d1piexq
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d1pjdvp
| 1,459,788,536 | 1,459,789,844 | 14 | 53 |
I am not a lawyer, but my parents had a similar dispute, where fruit from our tree was falling on their driveway, and we had to clean it up because it was our fruit. Similar cases might provide precedent that they were actually nabbing your fruit this whole time!
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I second all of the advice given. It's a bad idea to go to this meeting unless they bring their own lawyer with them. So long as the trunk was entirely within the property that belongs to your parents the neighbor has no case. Meanwhile (see below) while the neighbor can claim fallen fruit for his own he has no legal right to it's continued existence. They should really be telling the neighbor to pound sand. This guide wa sproduced by the town of North Branch, MN says the location of the trunk determines ownership. More definitively the MN Bar Association (the governing body for lawyers) also states that the location of the trunk determines ownership. It also has a section on fallen fruit. Specifically "Neighbors may disagree as to who has the right to the apples or other fruit growing on an encroaching tree branch. The rule of thumb is that if the tree trunk stands in a neighbor's yard, all of the fruit wherever it is hanging belongs to the neighbor.10 Picking the fruit may not be so simple. Ownership of the fruit does not give the neighbor any right to trespass onto your client's property to retrieve the fruit. Courts would probably weigh the right to keep trespassers out of your client's yard against the tree owner's right to harvest the fruit of her tree. The orchard owner whose livelihood depends upon the harvest probably has a stronger claim than an urban gardener. The law is also unclear on the issue of fallen fruit. As a practical matter, it would not be worthwhile for a neighbor to sue your client for keeping fallen fruit, because it would have nominal value. The courts would probably hold the tree owner responsible for making advance arrangements to harvest the fruit if it had sufficient value to bother with. Your client is probably safe to keep the fallen fruit if his neighbor says nothing about it. As with most neighbor disputes, the best counsel you can give is to encourage communication and neighborliness."
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4dbqui
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My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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d1ph1u5
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I second all of the advice given. It's a bad idea to go to this meeting unless they bring their own lawyer with them. So long as the trunk was entirely within the property that belongs to your parents the neighbor has no case. Meanwhile (see below) while the neighbor can claim fallen fruit for his own he has no legal right to it's continued existence. They should really be telling the neighbor to pound sand. This guide wa sproduced by the town of North Branch, MN says the location of the trunk determines ownership. More definitively the MN Bar Association (the governing body for lawyers) also states that the location of the trunk determines ownership. It also has a section on fallen fruit. Specifically "Neighbors may disagree as to who has the right to the apples or other fruit growing on an encroaching tree branch. The rule of thumb is that if the tree trunk stands in a neighbor's yard, all of the fruit wherever it is hanging belongs to the neighbor.10 Picking the fruit may not be so simple. Ownership of the fruit does not give the neighbor any right to trespass onto your client's property to retrieve the fruit. Courts would probably weigh the right to keep trespassers out of your client's yard against the tree owner's right to harvest the fruit of her tree. The orchard owner whose livelihood depends upon the harvest probably has a stronger claim than an urban gardener. The law is also unclear on the issue of fallen fruit. As a practical matter, it would not be worthwhile for a neighbor to sue your client for keeping fallen fruit, because it would have nominal value. The courts would probably hold the tree owner responsible for making advance arrangements to harvest the fruit if it had sufficient value to bother with. Your client is probably safe to keep the fallen fruit if his neighbor says nothing about it. As with most neighbor disputes, the best counsel you can give is to encourage communication and neighborliness."
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I am not a lawyer but I don't think they should go. If Neighbour wants to discuss his options with a lawyer, let him. If he actually serves them then your folks should get an attorney of their own and respond, but until/unless that happens, they shouldn't engage with Neighbour at all, and definitely not with Neighbour's lawyer.
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My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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I second all of the advice given. It's a bad idea to go to this meeting unless they bring their own lawyer with them. So long as the trunk was entirely within the property that belongs to your parents the neighbor has no case. Meanwhile (see below) while the neighbor can claim fallen fruit for his own he has no legal right to it's continued existence. They should really be telling the neighbor to pound sand. This guide wa sproduced by the town of North Branch, MN says the location of the trunk determines ownership. More definitively the MN Bar Association (the governing body for lawyers) also states that the location of the trunk determines ownership. It also has a section on fallen fruit. Specifically "Neighbors may disagree as to who has the right to the apples or other fruit growing on an encroaching tree branch. The rule of thumb is that if the tree trunk stands in a neighbor's yard, all of the fruit wherever it is hanging belongs to the neighbor.10 Picking the fruit may not be so simple. Ownership of the fruit does not give the neighbor any right to trespass onto your client's property to retrieve the fruit. Courts would probably weigh the right to keep trespassers out of your client's yard against the tree owner's right to harvest the fruit of her tree. The orchard owner whose livelihood depends upon the harvest probably has a stronger claim than an urban gardener. The law is also unclear on the issue of fallen fruit. As a practical matter, it would not be worthwhile for a neighbor to sue your client for keeping fallen fruit, because it would have nominal value. The courts would probably hold the tree owner responsible for making advance arrangements to harvest the fruit if it had sufficient value to bother with. Your client is probably safe to keep the fallen fruit if his neighbor says nothing about it. As with most neighbor disputes, the best counsel you can give is to encourage communication and neighborliness."
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so.... arborist here. What kind of fruit tree is subjectable to ash borers? They have migrated slightly to other trees in their native region (read: not USA). However, in the US i have never seen a single instance of EOBs in anything except ash trees. And ash trees dont bear fruit or nuts.
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My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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Generally, the location of the tree trunk determines who owns the tree, regardless of roots or branches encroaching onto neighboring property. Personally, I think your parents really have no reason to entertain this letter from the attorney or the neighbors and can do whatever they want, so long as the trunk is on their side of the property line. I wouldn't go. But it's always best to try to come to a reasonable solution when permanent neighbors are involved, so if they choose to go to the meeting have them listen to the concerns of the neighbors and explain their reasons for cutting it down calmly and rationally. If it degenerates into threats of lawsuits, have them explain that the trees are located on their property, and that they can do whatever they want with them, and that they are ending the meeting until they can meet with their own attorney. ETA: If the tree trunk straddles the property line, they jointly own the tree and are responsible to each other for any damage to the tree, so the above really only applies if the trunk is located within the property line of your parents' property.
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I am not a lawyer but I don't think they should go. If Neighbour wants to discuss his options with a lawyer, let him. If he actually serves them then your folks should get an attorney of their own and respond, but until/unless that happens, they shouldn't engage with Neighbour at all, and definitely not with Neighbour's lawyer.
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4dbqui
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My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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They should either attend with legal representation of their own or not at all.
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I am not a lawyer but I don't think they should go. If Neighbour wants to discuss his options with a lawyer, let him. If he actually serves them then your folks should get an attorney of their own and respond, but until/unless that happens, they shouldn't engage with Neighbour at all, and definitely not with Neighbour's lawyer.
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4dbqui
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My parents cut down trees on their (rural) MN property. Neighbor is claiming they had no right to do so because the tree branches hanged over into his yard and they provided him with fruit, wants to meet with them at a lawyer's office My parents bought the property 10 years ago. On one side of the house there were ~20 trees of various kinds all in a row, kind of marking the edge of the property. For years they've thought about cutting them down to put a driveway to a new garage/shed they could build but never got around to it. However, they learned last fall that 2/3 off the trees are prone to ash borer beetles and the county offered them assistance cutting them down this spring. The county cut down all those trees and my parents hired a company to cut down the rest so they can build the garage/shed and driveway this summer. Last summer they discussed this with the previous owner of the land next to theirs (not asking for permission, but actually asking if he could recommend the company he used to take down some trees on his property). He had no problem with it, recommended the company he used, made some suggestions for the new garage/shed, everyone was happy. He doesn't actually live on the property (just uses it for a shed to house his ag equipment) so they rarely saw the guy over the winter, and did not know that he had actually sold the property to someone else until they got a letter a couple of days ago from the new property owner/his lawyer. They are stating that he is concerned by the removal of established trees on the property and lists reasons like that the trees overhanged over his property, that they had roots on his property and that they provided his property with falling fruit. They are requesting that my parents attend a meeting at a lawyer office to discuss the matter (sorry for bad paraphrasing). My parents are planning to go, but I am worried that would be a bad idea. I would appreciate any advice for them, as to whether they should respond at all and what kind of lawyer they would want if I suggest they get one. I did some research and it sounds like trees can actually have very high values so this could be very serious and I want to make sure everything turns out okay. Thank you very much.
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I am not a lawyer but I don't think they should go. If Neighbour wants to discuss his options with a lawyer, let him. If he actually serves them then your folks should get an attorney of their own and respond, but until/unless that happens, they shouldn't engage with Neighbour at all, and definitely not with Neighbour's lawyer.
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I am not a lawyer, but my parents had a similar dispute, where fruit from our tree was falling on their driveway, and we had to clean it up because it was our fruit. Similar cases might provide precedent that they were actually nabbing your fruit this whole time!
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[MD] I was left a vehicle in my grandfather’s Will, my aunt is refusing to transfer ownership and sold the vehicle without my knowledge or consent My grandfather has a 1968 Mustang which he left to me in his will it is in a legal document that ownership supposed to be transferred to me. My aunt for the past month or so has downright refused to transfer the ownership, stating that because she was his POA she is in charge of his possessions. I have come to find out that she has in fact SOLD the vehicle and it has been transferred over to the person she sold it to. I have not received any money from this transaction. The will was set up in an odd way, everyone else got a fair share of the cash and my grandfather devoted the Mustang to me since I was not inheriting any money from him. That was the one thing I would have had left of him. Nonetheless, this document was registered in some way, stating that legally I was supposed to inherit this and I didn’t. What do I do?
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How long's it been since he passed? Do you know what he had in debts? > My aunt for the past month or so has downright refused to transfer the ownership, stating that because she was his POA she is in charge of his possessions That's not how it works. But she may have filed to be the executor as a separate act
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> because she was his POA she is in charge of his possessions Bull. POA expires upon death. And a will is a will. But you need to have a probate attorney look at the will, and then presumably you'd sue your aunt for the proceeds.
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mz5psb
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[MD] I was left a vehicle in my grandfather’s Will, my aunt is refusing to transfer ownership and sold the vehicle without my knowledge or consent My grandfather has a 1968 Mustang which he left to me in his will it is in a legal document that ownership supposed to be transferred to me. My aunt for the past month or so has downright refused to transfer the ownership, stating that because she was his POA she is in charge of his possessions. I have come to find out that she has in fact SOLD the vehicle and it has been transferred over to the person she sold it to. I have not received any money from this transaction. The will was set up in an odd way, everyone else got a fair share of the cash and my grandfather devoted the Mustang to me since I was not inheriting any money from him. That was the one thing I would have had left of him. Nonetheless, this document was registered in some way, stating that legally I was supposed to inherit this and I didn’t. What do I do?
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Lawyer, now. FULL STOP. You were not to get cash but a valued asset, so she liquidated said asset to get more cash. Do not accept her ideas and comments as legal advice. Never take advice from the enemy. Get a consult ASAP. State bar Association may help you get some leads on a lawyer. Good luck and don't dawdle.
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How long's it been since he passed? Do you know what he had in debts? > My aunt for the past month or so has downright refused to transfer the ownership, stating that because she was his POA she is in charge of his possessions That's not how it works. But she may have filed to be the executor as a separate act
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mz5psb
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[MD] I was left a vehicle in my grandfather’s Will, my aunt is refusing to transfer ownership and sold the vehicle without my knowledge or consent My grandfather has a 1968 Mustang which he left to me in his will it is in a legal document that ownership supposed to be transferred to me. My aunt for the past month or so has downright refused to transfer the ownership, stating that because she was his POA she is in charge of his possessions. I have come to find out that she has in fact SOLD the vehicle and it has been transferred over to the person she sold it to. I have not received any money from this transaction. The will was set up in an odd way, everyone else got a fair share of the cash and my grandfather devoted the Mustang to me since I was not inheriting any money from him. That was the one thing I would have had left of him. Nonetheless, this document was registered in some way, stating that legally I was supposed to inherit this and I didn’t. What do I do?
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Not a lawyer. If she sold the car before he passed, the POA may have given her that authority and the will can't distribute assets his estate never held. It sounds like you are saying she sold it after he passed or it's unclear. If so, time for a probate attorney.
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You say nothing about receiving a notice, so I suspect that there has not been a probate estate opened and no court appointment of the executor. If that is the case, your aunt had no authority to do anything. When you consult a lawyer, he will likely tell you that you have the option of filing to be the executor, seeking a ruling from the court that she has acted illegally, and imposing a financial penalty against her. You may even be able to get the car back from the buyer, if you are lucky. But you must act.
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(20, F, FL) Last week I checked myself into the hospital for suicidal ideation. I have an excuse note but my workplace is demanding to know why I was in the hospital. I'm uncomfortable with sharing this and scared of getting reprimanded. What do I do? TL;DR: Last week I checked myself into a hospital because I had plans to kill myself. Let my work know (I just work part time at a shitty craft store as a cashier but it's my first job and you gotta start somewhere) before going like a responsible adult. I have an excuse note but it doesn't mention I was at a behavioral hospital or that I was there for suicidal ideation. My work is demanding to know WHY I was at the hospital and I'm scared if I tell them why they'll do something bad to my job or any even fire me. What do I do? DETAILED VERSION I have a serious issue guys. Last week I was admitted to the hospital for severe suicidal ideation. I had a plan, note, and everything. I realized how fucked up that was and had my mom take me to the behavioral hospital until I could get my shit together. I called my work to tell them I was going to the hospital for a week so they had notice and I got bitched out. My job is just a cashier at a craft store, so I'm not very important or hard to replace. I have an excuse note but all it says is along the lines of "please excuse Lauren from the days 9/30-10/5, she was in the hospital." It doesn't say that it was a behavioral hospital or that I was there for intended suicide. I'm scheduled to work tomorrow and they want the note. No big deal, yeah? But they're also demanding to know WHY I was in the hospital. What the fuck am I supposed to say? "Oh yeah two weeks ago I tried to kill myself by turning on the car in a sealed garage but that didn't work so last week I planned to swallow a bunch of pills but realized I needed to get help so I checked myself into the nut house for 24/7 observation until I calmed the fuck down." They know that I have severe anxiety and sometimes I need to pop off for five minutes to take my emergency meds and chill the fuck out. They don't know about my depression or BPD or anything else fucking with me because that's something they don't need to know. They've been very accommodating with my anxiety as long as I don't take more than around 10 minutes to calm down from a panic attack, then they get testy because I'm on the clock. That's completely reasonable IMO. But I'm afraid if I tell them that I'm suicidal and needed extra help so I didn't hurt myself. I'm afraid that if I do they'll see me as a liability issue or even fire me. Are they allowed to do those things? Am I required to tell them why I was in the hospital? Do you think my job is at risk?
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Not a lawyer, been where you are. You said part time, but double check if you qualify for FMLA, just in case. Call HR and ask for the documents before you get to work. When it happened to me, I just said that I was sick and the doctors are not quite sure why. It is a honest answer, because what you are going through is the beginning of a long process. You will need a couple of years of therapy and recovery to find the root cause to your condition. No one knows why you are sick, but we thankfully live in a time were help and treatment is available. Good luck on your path and know that you are on a better one now that you want to get healthy.
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Your employer does not have a right to know why you're being hospitalized or ill, unless you are seeking accommodation through the ADA or for FMLA leave. As long as you have a note from your doctor stating you were ill at the time you were out and that he certifies that you are able to return to normal duties without restrictions, that should be enough. It will relieve the employer of any potential liabilities. So it's up to you how to proceed. I would simply say it's "personal, you know" and here's my note clearing me to return to work with no restrictions. Off topic but if you're female and have a male boss, saying "female problems" usually ends the questioning 99.9% of the time :o)
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(20, F, FL) Last week I checked myself into the hospital for suicidal ideation. I have an excuse note but my workplace is demanding to know why I was in the hospital. I'm uncomfortable with sharing this and scared of getting reprimanded. What do I do? TL;DR: Last week I checked myself into a hospital because I had plans to kill myself. Let my work know (I just work part time at a shitty craft store as a cashier but it's my first job and you gotta start somewhere) before going like a responsible adult. I have an excuse note but it doesn't mention I was at a behavioral hospital or that I was there for suicidal ideation. My work is demanding to know WHY I was at the hospital and I'm scared if I tell them why they'll do something bad to my job or any even fire me. What do I do? DETAILED VERSION I have a serious issue guys. Last week I was admitted to the hospital for severe suicidal ideation. I had a plan, note, and everything. I realized how fucked up that was and had my mom take me to the behavioral hospital until I could get my shit together. I called my work to tell them I was going to the hospital for a week so they had notice and I got bitched out. My job is just a cashier at a craft store, so I'm not very important or hard to replace. I have an excuse note but all it says is along the lines of "please excuse Lauren from the days 9/30-10/5, she was in the hospital." It doesn't say that it was a behavioral hospital or that I was there for intended suicide. I'm scheduled to work tomorrow and they want the note. No big deal, yeah? But they're also demanding to know WHY I was in the hospital. What the fuck am I supposed to say? "Oh yeah two weeks ago I tried to kill myself by turning on the car in a sealed garage but that didn't work so last week I planned to swallow a bunch of pills but realized I needed to get help so I checked myself into the nut house for 24/7 observation until I calmed the fuck down." They know that I have severe anxiety and sometimes I need to pop off for five minutes to take my emergency meds and chill the fuck out. They don't know about my depression or BPD or anything else fucking with me because that's something they don't need to know. They've been very accommodating with my anxiety as long as I don't take more than around 10 minutes to calm down from a panic attack, then they get testy because I'm on the clock. That's completely reasonable IMO. But I'm afraid if I tell them that I'm suicidal and needed extra help so I didn't hurt myself. I'm afraid that if I do they'll see me as a liability issue or even fire me. Are they allowed to do those things? Am I required to tell them why I was in the hospital? Do you think my job is at risk?
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Your employer does not have a right to know why you're being hospitalized or ill, unless you are seeking accommodation through the ADA or for FMLA leave. As long as you have a note from your doctor stating you were ill at the time you were out and that he certifies that you are able to return to normal duties without restrictions, that should be enough. It will relieve the employer of any potential liabilities. So it's up to you how to proceed. I would simply say it's "personal, you know" and here's my note clearing me to return to work with no restrictions. Off topic but if you're female and have a male boss, saying "female problems" usually ends the questioning 99.9% of the time :o)
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Yeah just an easy lie would be best here. I assume they want to know just out of curiosity and such, and not for any official reason. Asking WHY someone was at a doctos is kind of standard small talk, even if it shouldn't be. You could say you're still waiting for the test results to evade answering. "I had a really bad pain in my head, that was effecting my motor functions. I think it was anxiety related." Could be an answer too.
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(20, F, FL) Last week I checked myself into the hospital for suicidal ideation. I have an excuse note but my workplace is demanding to know why I was in the hospital. I'm uncomfortable with sharing this and scared of getting reprimanded. What do I do? TL;DR: Last week I checked myself into a hospital because I had plans to kill myself. Let my work know (I just work part time at a shitty craft store as a cashier but it's my first job and you gotta start somewhere) before going like a responsible adult. I have an excuse note but it doesn't mention I was at a behavioral hospital or that I was there for suicidal ideation. My work is demanding to know WHY I was at the hospital and I'm scared if I tell them why they'll do something bad to my job or any even fire me. What do I do? DETAILED VERSION I have a serious issue guys. Last week I was admitted to the hospital for severe suicidal ideation. I had a plan, note, and everything. I realized how fucked up that was and had my mom take me to the behavioral hospital until I could get my shit together. I called my work to tell them I was going to the hospital for a week so they had notice and I got bitched out. My job is just a cashier at a craft store, so I'm not very important or hard to replace. I have an excuse note but all it says is along the lines of "please excuse Lauren from the days 9/30-10/5, she was in the hospital." It doesn't say that it was a behavioral hospital or that I was there for intended suicide. I'm scheduled to work tomorrow and they want the note. No big deal, yeah? But they're also demanding to know WHY I was in the hospital. What the fuck am I supposed to say? "Oh yeah two weeks ago I tried to kill myself by turning on the car in a sealed garage but that didn't work so last week I planned to swallow a bunch of pills but realized I needed to get help so I checked myself into the nut house for 24/7 observation until I calmed the fuck down." They know that I have severe anxiety and sometimes I need to pop off for five minutes to take my emergency meds and chill the fuck out. They don't know about my depression or BPD or anything else fucking with me because that's something they don't need to know. They've been very accommodating with my anxiety as long as I don't take more than around 10 minutes to calm down from a panic attack, then they get testy because I'm on the clock. That's completely reasonable IMO. But I'm afraid if I tell them that I'm suicidal and needed extra help so I didn't hurt myself. I'm afraid that if I do they'll see me as a liability issue or even fire me. Are they allowed to do those things? Am I required to tell them why I was in the hospital? Do you think my job is at risk?
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d8jmf4e
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Your employer does not have a right to know why you're being hospitalized or ill, unless you are seeking accommodation through the ADA or for FMLA leave. As long as you have a note from your doctor stating you were ill at the time you were out and that he certifies that you are able to return to normal duties without restrictions, that should be enough. It will relieve the employer of any potential liabilities. So it's up to you how to proceed. I would simply say it's "personal, you know" and here's my note clearing me to return to work with no restrictions. Off topic but if you're female and have a male boss, saying "female problems" usually ends the questioning 99.9% of the time :o)
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First off I'm glad that you chose to get help and not go through with the suicidal thoughts. Your first priority should be to take care of yourself and get counseling or other help. I would start off by asking a physician to write a note that you were admitted to the hospital and treated and are better now but not cite a reason. Your work has no right to know the reason, only to verify that you were hospitalized and not just taking a vacation. This should be enough to satisfy your boss and HR department. It is best not to lie but just withhold the reason for your hospitalization. If your work fired you even with a doctors note you would have a good case for wrongful termination. If your boss presses for details tell them that it was vey serious and it was a trying experience but you choose not to discuss your private medical information.
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(20, F, FL) Last week I checked myself into the hospital for suicidal ideation. I have an excuse note but my workplace is demanding to know why I was in the hospital. I'm uncomfortable with sharing this and scared of getting reprimanded. What do I do? TL;DR: Last week I checked myself into a hospital because I had plans to kill myself. Let my work know (I just work part time at a shitty craft store as a cashier but it's my first job and you gotta start somewhere) before going like a responsible adult. I have an excuse note but it doesn't mention I was at a behavioral hospital or that I was there for suicidal ideation. My work is demanding to know WHY I was at the hospital and I'm scared if I tell them why they'll do something bad to my job or any even fire me. What do I do? DETAILED VERSION I have a serious issue guys. Last week I was admitted to the hospital for severe suicidal ideation. I had a plan, note, and everything. I realized how fucked up that was and had my mom take me to the behavioral hospital until I could get my shit together. I called my work to tell them I was going to the hospital for a week so they had notice and I got bitched out. My job is just a cashier at a craft store, so I'm not very important or hard to replace. I have an excuse note but all it says is along the lines of "please excuse Lauren from the days 9/30-10/5, she was in the hospital." It doesn't say that it was a behavioral hospital or that I was there for intended suicide. I'm scheduled to work tomorrow and they want the note. No big deal, yeah? But they're also demanding to know WHY I was in the hospital. What the fuck am I supposed to say? "Oh yeah two weeks ago I tried to kill myself by turning on the car in a sealed garage but that didn't work so last week I planned to swallow a bunch of pills but realized I needed to get help so I checked myself into the nut house for 24/7 observation until I calmed the fuck down." They know that I have severe anxiety and sometimes I need to pop off for five minutes to take my emergency meds and chill the fuck out. They don't know about my depression or BPD or anything else fucking with me because that's something they don't need to know. They've been very accommodating with my anxiety as long as I don't take more than around 10 minutes to calm down from a panic attack, then they get testy because I'm on the clock. That's completely reasonable IMO. But I'm afraid if I tell them that I'm suicidal and needed extra help so I didn't hurt myself. I'm afraid that if I do they'll see me as a liability issue or even fire me. Are they allowed to do those things? Am I required to tell them why I was in the hospital? Do you think my job is at risk?
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d8jo67o
| 1,475,959,524 | 1,475,962,093 | 3 | 9 |
First off I'm glad that you chose to get help and not go through with the suicidal thoughts. Your first priority should be to take care of yourself and get counseling or other help. I would start off by asking a physician to write a note that you were admitted to the hospital and treated and are better now but not cite a reason. Your work has no right to know the reason, only to verify that you were hospitalized and not just taking a vacation. This should be enough to satisfy your boss and HR department. It is best not to lie but just withhold the reason for your hospitalization. If your work fired you even with a doctors note you would have a good case for wrongful termination. If your boss presses for details tell them that it was vey serious and it was a trying experience but you choose not to discuss your private medical information.
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Not a lawyer, been where you are. You said part time, but double check if you qualify for FMLA, just in case. Call HR and ask for the documents before you get to work. When it happened to me, I just said that I was sick and the doctors are not quite sure why. It is a honest answer, because what you are going through is the beginning of a long process. You will need a couple of years of therapy and recovery to find the root cause to your condition. No one knows why you are sick, but we thankfully live in a time were help and treatment is available. Good luck on your path and know that you are on a better one now that you want to get healthy.
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56i421
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(20, F, FL) Last week I checked myself into the hospital for suicidal ideation. I have an excuse note but my workplace is demanding to know why I was in the hospital. I'm uncomfortable with sharing this and scared of getting reprimanded. What do I do? TL;DR: Last week I checked myself into a hospital because I had plans to kill myself. Let my work know (I just work part time at a shitty craft store as a cashier but it's my first job and you gotta start somewhere) before going like a responsible adult. I have an excuse note but it doesn't mention I was at a behavioral hospital or that I was there for suicidal ideation. My work is demanding to know WHY I was at the hospital and I'm scared if I tell them why they'll do something bad to my job or any even fire me. What do I do? DETAILED VERSION I have a serious issue guys. Last week I was admitted to the hospital for severe suicidal ideation. I had a plan, note, and everything. I realized how fucked up that was and had my mom take me to the behavioral hospital until I could get my shit together. I called my work to tell them I was going to the hospital for a week so they had notice and I got bitched out. My job is just a cashier at a craft store, so I'm not very important or hard to replace. I have an excuse note but all it says is along the lines of "please excuse Lauren from the days 9/30-10/5, she was in the hospital." It doesn't say that it was a behavioral hospital or that I was there for intended suicide. I'm scheduled to work tomorrow and they want the note. No big deal, yeah? But they're also demanding to know WHY I was in the hospital. What the fuck am I supposed to say? "Oh yeah two weeks ago I tried to kill myself by turning on the car in a sealed garage but that didn't work so last week I planned to swallow a bunch of pills but realized I needed to get help so I checked myself into the nut house for 24/7 observation until I calmed the fuck down." They know that I have severe anxiety and sometimes I need to pop off for five minutes to take my emergency meds and chill the fuck out. They don't know about my depression or BPD or anything else fucking with me because that's something they don't need to know. They've been very accommodating with my anxiety as long as I don't take more than around 10 minutes to calm down from a panic attack, then they get testy because I'm on the clock. That's completely reasonable IMO. But I'm afraid if I tell them that I'm suicidal and needed extra help so I didn't hurt myself. I'm afraid that if I do they'll see me as a liability issue or even fire me. Are they allowed to do those things? Am I required to tell them why I was in the hospital? Do you think my job is at risk?
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d8jof0k
| 1,475,959,524 | 1,475,962,455 | 3 | 8 |
First off I'm glad that you chose to get help and not go through with the suicidal thoughts. Your first priority should be to take care of yourself and get counseling or other help. I would start off by asking a physician to write a note that you were admitted to the hospital and treated and are better now but not cite a reason. Your work has no right to know the reason, only to verify that you were hospitalized and not just taking a vacation. This should be enough to satisfy your boss and HR department. It is best not to lie but just withhold the reason for your hospitalization. If your work fired you even with a doctors note you would have a good case for wrongful termination. If your boss presses for details tell them that it was vey serious and it was a trying experience but you choose not to discuss your private medical information.
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Yeah just an easy lie would be best here. I assume they want to know just out of curiosity and such, and not for any official reason. Asking WHY someone was at a doctos is kind of standard small talk, even if it shouldn't be. You could say you're still waiting for the test results to evade answering. "I had a really bad pain in my head, that was effecting my motor functions. I think it was anxiety related." Could be an answer too.
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gismmr
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PA Police officer attempting to coerce my friend into sending nude photos of herself - we don’t know what to do My friend (we’ll call her R) recently had to contact the police department in our area because she’s facing some online harassment problems regarding photos from when she was underage. Officers show up, basically say there’s not much to do but get her number and say they’ll tell her if anything changes. The one officer (we’ll call him Q) calls her without using *69 to tell her that they need to come back and take her phone for evidence. She says no but that she’ll give her account information from the platforms, they say that’s not enough and have her sign a paper saying she doesn’t require any more help from the cops. HERE’S where shit gets fucked up. Q “accidentally” texts her a blank bubble/empty text, R responds and says hey what’s up. Q freaks out and says that he could get in a ton of trouble for contacting a sex crimes victim without using *69, that he could lose a promotion or worse, and that the only way to save his skin would be for her to send him 4-5 nude photos with her face in them that nobody else has to prove that they “knew each other outside of the investigation”. He’s being persistent and unbelievably manipulative, telling her that he could lose his job for contacting her and all she needs to do is send him nude photos. Further, he’s asking her to delete the messages (she has not + has screenshots) and then asking if they can establish a friendship. To me it seems clear that this is something he has done before and he needs to be reported for abuse of power or misconduct at least, but R is scared to rock the boat. How do we deal with this?
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fqgyksz
| 1,589,354,394 | 1,589,361,649 | 25 | 47 |
Why in the world is she scared to rock the boat? This is clearly salacious. Call 311 and request the info you need. Which department is this officer in, who is his supervisor, how can you get in contact. They have to give you that info. Persist if they’re reluctant and don’t tell whoever you speak with on the phone whats going on/the nature of the call (if they ask - “I just need this information please.”) You may even be better off talking to the sheriff department, I’m not too sure. But definitely don’t hesistate. Get this taken care of.
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Wow. Please report this person, both for your friend and for any other people he has/is doing this to! Go to a police station and ask for the duty Sergeant and say you would like to make a complain gilt about one of the officers. Do you have their name/badge number? Alternatively, if he was a pennsylvania state police officer, you can do it online at https://www.psp.pa.gov/contact/Pages/Compliment-Complaint-Procedures.aspx
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gismmr
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legaladvice_train
| 0.91 |
PA Police officer attempting to coerce my friend into sending nude photos of herself - we don’t know what to do My friend (we’ll call her R) recently had to contact the police department in our area because she’s facing some online harassment problems regarding photos from when she was underage. Officers show up, basically say there’s not much to do but get her number and say they’ll tell her if anything changes. The one officer (we’ll call him Q) calls her without using *69 to tell her that they need to come back and take her phone for evidence. She says no but that she’ll give her account information from the platforms, they say that’s not enough and have her sign a paper saying she doesn’t require any more help from the cops. HERE’S where shit gets fucked up. Q “accidentally” texts her a blank bubble/empty text, R responds and says hey what’s up. Q freaks out and says that he could get in a ton of trouble for contacting a sex crimes victim without using *69, that he could lose a promotion or worse, and that the only way to save his skin would be for her to send him 4-5 nude photos with her face in them that nobody else has to prove that they “knew each other outside of the investigation”. He’s being persistent and unbelievably manipulative, telling her that he could lose his job for contacting her and all she needs to do is send him nude photos. Further, he’s asking her to delete the messages (she has not + has screenshots) and then asking if they can establish a friendship. To me it seems clear that this is something he has done before and he needs to be reported for abuse of power or misconduct at least, but R is scared to rock the boat. How do we deal with this?
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fqgwvkc
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fqgr4pl
| 1,589,359,937 | 1,589,354,394 | 48 | 25 |
Rock the fuck out of the boat. This cop needs to be fired before his behavior escalates.
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Why in the world is she scared to rock the boat? This is clearly salacious. Call 311 and request the info you need. Which department is this officer in, who is his supervisor, how can you get in contact. They have to give you that info. Persist if they’re reluctant and don’t tell whoever you speak with on the phone whats going on/the nature of the call (if they ask - “I just need this information please.”) You may even be better off talking to the sheriff department, I’m not too sure. But definitely don’t hesistate. Get this taken care of.
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wsc5ax
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Kids won't stop messing with my retaining wall I'm in the USA, specifically Pennsylvania. Neighbor kids have been told countless times to stop walking along my retaining wall. It surrounds most of my property and at its highest, there is a 4 foot drop. One kid, last year, actually pulled a stone down onto herself and she got her foot out of the way before it crashed down onto the concrete. I had warned her many times to never touch the wall because the top stones aren't secured by concrete, they are secured by their weight. I just went outside and found the same stone on the sidewalk. We have security cameras but due to the fence on top of the wall and it being a corner stone, we don't have footage of the culprit actually doing it. The parents of these kids weren't concerned when their kids carved their names into the wood on my porch, picked all of my flowers or threw trash into my yard so reasoning with the adults is off the table. The kids and adults all know about our security system and that has not been a deterrent. My main point is, can i be sued if one of these kids does this again and gets hurt? They've been warned so many times over the last few years, i have records of the texts to the parent of the kid who nearly got hurt. Short of standing outside all day, i don't know what to do. I don't want to get sued because some jerky kids refuse to stop trespassing and vandalizing my property.
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ikx98fy
| 1,660,911,907 | 1,660,910,742 | 382 | 267 |
Send a letter to your neighbors laying out that their kids are constantly trespassing on your property and that you've had enough. They aren't welcome and if they continue to do it, you'll report them to the police.
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Not a lawyer but I'll refer you to this article regarding property owners potential liability regarding injury to trespassers, which has a specific section regarding trespassing children and attractive nuisances. https://www.findlaw.com/realestate/land-use-laws/homeowner-liability-for-trespasser-injuries.html
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wsc5ax
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Kids won't stop messing with my retaining wall I'm in the USA, specifically Pennsylvania. Neighbor kids have been told countless times to stop walking along my retaining wall. It surrounds most of my property and at its highest, there is a 4 foot drop. One kid, last year, actually pulled a stone down onto herself and she got her foot out of the way before it crashed down onto the concrete. I had warned her many times to never touch the wall because the top stones aren't secured by concrete, they are secured by their weight. I just went outside and found the same stone on the sidewalk. We have security cameras but due to the fence on top of the wall and it being a corner stone, we don't have footage of the culprit actually doing it. The parents of these kids weren't concerned when their kids carved their names into the wood on my porch, picked all of my flowers or threw trash into my yard so reasoning with the adults is off the table. The kids and adults all know about our security system and that has not been a deterrent. My main point is, can i be sued if one of these kids does this again and gets hurt? They've been warned so many times over the last few years, i have records of the texts to the parent of the kid who nearly got hurt. Short of standing outside all day, i don't know what to do. I don't want to get sued because some jerky kids refuse to stop trespassing and vandalizing my property.
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ikyj7uk
| 1,660,919,371 | 1,660,929,653 | 46 | 79 |
You are responsible for your wall, and it almost doesn't matter if it falls on someone due to their actions, by accident, or by neglect. But I have to ask, how strong is this wall if a child "pulled a stone down onto herself"? IMHO, this wall is not secure and not strong enough if a child can pull out the stones. Sorry. You probably need to get a contractor to review the wall and assess its structural integrity. A properly built and secured wall will not allow anyone to pull out the stones. This is your first priority. The second is to engage the police at this time, since the children may be trespassing onto your property and putting themselves at risk. You will be held liable for any injuries, especially since you already know the wall is not secure.
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I'm petty. I'd put up a no tresspassing sign. The next time the kids mess with your stuff tell the parents to keep them away. EVERY SINGLE TIME IT HAPPENS AFTER THAT CALL THE COPS. Not 911, call your local number, tell them you have minors tresspassing and they are unsupervised. If they damage anything ask to file a report. You may have to go to the station to do so. Document everything. Eventually someone will break an arm and you can show your insurance that you've reported that child X number of times to the police for tresspassing. It will help you if you get sued. Source, I had a shitty kid on my block. Damage, entering fenced in yards, ding dong ditching, throwing feces, running nude down the street etc ect. He was an asshole with parents that didn't care. Yes he was evaluated for mental disorders with nothing wrong found with him. I finally started calling the police. Eventually cps got involved. The kid finally got what he needed which was a guardian that actually cared about him. He's still kind of an asshole, but he leaves our property alone now.
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wsc5ax
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legaladvice_train
| 0.97 |
Kids won't stop messing with my retaining wall I'm in the USA, specifically Pennsylvania. Neighbor kids have been told countless times to stop walking along my retaining wall. It surrounds most of my property and at its highest, there is a 4 foot drop. One kid, last year, actually pulled a stone down onto herself and she got her foot out of the way before it crashed down onto the concrete. I had warned her many times to never touch the wall because the top stones aren't secured by concrete, they are secured by their weight. I just went outside and found the same stone on the sidewalk. We have security cameras but due to the fence on top of the wall and it being a corner stone, we don't have footage of the culprit actually doing it. The parents of these kids weren't concerned when their kids carved their names into the wood on my porch, picked all of my flowers or threw trash into my yard so reasoning with the adults is off the table. The kids and adults all know about our security system and that has not been a deterrent. My main point is, can i be sued if one of these kids does this again and gets hurt? They've been warned so many times over the last few years, i have records of the texts to the parent of the kid who nearly got hurt. Short of standing outside all day, i don't know what to do. I don't want to get sued because some jerky kids refuse to stop trespassing and vandalizing my property.
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iky7vb5
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ikyj7uk
| 1,660,925,302 | 1,660,929,653 | 5 | 79 |
You can be sued. I don’t know if they’d be successful, but the types of parents you’re dealing with would 100% file a suit and make your life miserable if their precious little kids get hurt. Have you contacted the police? Couldn’t you call that damage to property with the broken stone? They probably won’t do anything, but you’ll have that report on record to back you up. You tried.
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I'm petty. I'd put up a no tresspassing sign. The next time the kids mess with your stuff tell the parents to keep them away. EVERY SINGLE TIME IT HAPPENS AFTER THAT CALL THE COPS. Not 911, call your local number, tell them you have minors tresspassing and they are unsupervised. If they damage anything ask to file a report. You may have to go to the station to do so. Document everything. Eventually someone will break an arm and you can show your insurance that you've reported that child X number of times to the police for tresspassing. It will help you if you get sued. Source, I had a shitty kid on my block. Damage, entering fenced in yards, ding dong ditching, throwing feces, running nude down the street etc ect. He was an asshole with parents that didn't care. Yes he was evaluated for mental disorders with nothing wrong found with him. I finally started calling the police. Eventually cps got involved. The kid finally got what he needed which was a guardian that actually cared about him. He's still kind of an asshole, but he leaves our property alone now.
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5cwcy0
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legaladvice_train
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[FL] My sister wants to use a hidden nanny cam at her daughter's daycare. Is this legal since it's filming other kids too? She doesn't suspect any foul play or anything. She just wants to be able to see her daughter through out the day but I don't want her to get into trouble.
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d9zvefz
| 1,479,136,309 | 1,479,137,370 | 42 | 188 |
For audio Florida is a two party consent state. Meaning anyone involved in a conversation most be aware that a camera is recording audio. That would very much be illegal since not even 1 party would be consenting. Video is a lot less straight forward. It would be prohibited in any area with a high expectation of privacy. I would argue that there are plenty of areas within a daycare that would fall under that. This just sounds like a really bad idea.
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Why not just find a daycare that has monitors you can watch from online? This one doesn't have what she wants so she finds a daycare that does.
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