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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2enqd0
| 1,531,670,888 | 1,531,620,138 | 355 | 51 |
Honey I live in Kentucky and your husband is so full of crap. Call your momma, have her pick you and your things up, stop at the bank where the marital joint account is, withdraw 50%, and GTFO outta here.
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Something to consider: did your husband know that you didn’t want to be pregnant? Does he know you want to leave? Is it possible that he messed with your birth control/condoms in an attempt to make you stay?
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2fl4op
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e2e1hvu
| 1,531,670,888 | 1,531,595,803 | 355 | 42 |
Honey I live in Kentucky and your husband is so full of crap. Call your momma, have her pick you and your things up, stop at the bank where the marital joint account is, withdraw 50%, and GTFO outta here.
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1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2e0mfd
| 1,531,595,180 | 1,531,594,871 | 204 | 95 |
Your husband is being financially abusive if you believe you can't legally use any money in your joint accounts without his permission. Abusive people convince their victims of all sorts of things that just aren't true we can't guess all of the things he has deceived you about. Try here also for more questions and exit strategies or just strategies to get an abortion without your spouse knowing. Among other things inform Drs in written they are not to discuss your medical history with your spouse. http://www.thehotline.org/blog/get-help-today/ Not legal advice it may be best if you are surrounded by people you trust and will protect you from your spouse before you take any noticable action. So husband doesn't apply pressure to you or harm you.
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You don't need to discuss why you're getting an abortion at the clinic. Yes, you can get one anytime you want without needing anyone's permission. It's your body, your decision. Joint account means you own the money in there as much as he does. You can use that money any way you please. This is another area you don't need your husband's permission or approval on how to use said money.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2e3l75
| 1,531,595,685 | 1,531,598,019 | 91 | 134 |
> when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion To my knowledge no state requires spousal permission. Some states will notify though. > If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. LOL! That's not a thing. 1. You don't need his permission to use any marital funds. They are yours... do as you please. 2. You don't need to lie. Spousal consent isn't required.
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Your husband is full of crap, and you shouldn’t believe anything he tells you. Your husband has no claim at all on the joint account with your mother. You can use the money in your joint accounts with your husband, but a judge would look poorly on it if you completely drained them. You could safely withdraw about half. You have the right to travel anywhere you like regardless of whether you’re carrying a fetus, and your husband has no say in whether or not you receive an abortion anywhere in the US. This isn’t the Handmaid’s Tale. Get out, and good luck.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2e3l75
| 1,531,594,871 | 1,531,598,019 | 95 | 134 |
You don't need to discuss why you're getting an abortion at the clinic. Yes, you can get one anytime you want without needing anyone's permission. It's your body, your decision. Joint account means you own the money in there as much as he does. You can use that money any way you please. This is another area you don't need your husband's permission or approval on how to use said money.
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Your husband is full of crap, and you shouldn’t believe anything he tells you. Your husband has no claim at all on the joint account with your mother. You can use the money in your joint accounts with your husband, but a judge would look poorly on it if you completely drained them. You could safely withdraw about half. You have the right to travel anywhere you like regardless of whether you’re carrying a fetus, and your husband has no say in whether or not you receive an abortion anywhere in the US. This isn’t the Handmaid’s Tale. Get out, and good luck.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2e1hvu
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e2e3l75
| 1,531,595,803 | 1,531,598,019 | 42 | 134 |
1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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Your husband is full of crap, and you shouldn’t believe anything he tells you. Your husband has no claim at all on the joint account with your mother. You can use the money in your joint accounts with your husband, but a judge would look poorly on it if you completely drained them. You could safely withdraw about half. You have the right to travel anywhere you like regardless of whether you’re carrying a fetus, and your husband has no say in whether or not you receive an abortion anywhere in the US. This isn’t the Handmaid’s Tale. Get out, and good luck.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2e1duq
| 1,531,665,106 | 1,531,595,685 | 93 | 91 |
OP, just a word on withdrawing money. Withdraw from your joint account on your way out of town. Don't take out the money before you leave. I have another alert on my account from transactions over a certain amount so I can check for fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if your husband has the same alert set to monitor your usage.
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> when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion To my knowledge no state requires spousal permission. Some states will notify though. > If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. LOL! That's not a thing. 1. You don't need his permission to use any marital funds. They are yours... do as you please. 2. You don't need to lie. Spousal consent isn't required.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ffa4g
| 1,531,612,787 | 1,531,665,106 | 87 | 93 |
OP, please, please be careful. Please call a women's shelter to get advice on leaving safely and covering your tracks. You can also call the police non-emergency number and ask for an escort as you pack your things. Statistically, an abusive partner is most likely to turn to violence when you attempt to leave. Additionally, being pregnant multiplies the chances of you dying at the hands of your partner. Be safe and don't take any chances. You're doing the right thing. Stay strong.
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OP, just a word on withdrawing money. Withdraw from your joint account on your way out of town. Don't take out the money before you leave. I have another alert on my account from transactions over a certain amount so I can check for fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if your husband has the same alert set to monitor your usage.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ffa4g
| 1,531,627,371 | 1,531,665,106 | 84 | 93 |
Take your id and some clothes & necessities. Go to the bank and take half the money; it's yours. Legally you can remove all the money, but half of it is his and a court would likely order you to return his share. Go to a DIFFERENT bank entirely to open an account in your name only. Keep enough cash for your abortion and living expenses for a couple weeks. NEVER tell anyone about that account, not even your parents. Then go to your parents' home. Get your abortion if that's what you want, and get a divorce lawyer. Also therapy. Wishing you the very best as you take your next steps as a free woman.
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OP, just a word on withdrawing money. Withdraw from your joint account on your way out of town. Don't take out the money before you leave. I have another alert on my account from transactions over a certain amount so I can check for fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if your husband has the same alert set to monitor your usage.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ef0og
| 1,531,665,106 | 1,531,610,158 | 93 | 75 |
OP, just a word on withdrawing money. Withdraw from your joint account on your way out of town. Don't take out the money before you leave. I have another alert on my account from transactions over a certain amount so I can check for fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if your husband has the same alert set to monitor your usage.
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Abort your pregnancy, then your marriage.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ffa4g
| 1,531,621,917 | 1,531,665,106 | 70 | 93 |
You sound like you are in a abusive relationship. Walk out the door and keep going until you get somewhere safe. Then follow the rest of the advice in this thread.
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OP, just a word on withdrawing money. Withdraw from your joint account on your way out of town. Don't take out the money before you leave. I have another alert on my account from transactions over a certain amount so I can check for fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if your husband has the same alert set to monitor your usage.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ffa4g
| 1,531,610,992 | 1,531,665,106 | 69 | 93 |
**You do not, under any circumstances, need anyone's permission to get an abortion. Not your husband's, not your parents, no one!** This is the link for Planned Parenthood: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ They will help you obtain treatment. They will likely do it for a reduced cost, or even for free.
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OP, just a word on withdrawing money. Withdraw from your joint account on your way out of town. Don't take out the money before you leave. I have another alert on my account from transactions over a certain amount so I can check for fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if your husband has the same alert set to monitor your usage.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ffa4g
| 1,531,620,138 | 1,531,665,106 | 51 | 93 |
Something to consider: did your husband know that you didn’t want to be pregnant? Does he know you want to leave? Is it possible that he messed with your birth control/condoms in an attempt to make you stay?
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OP, just a word on withdrawing money. Withdraw from your joint account on your way out of town. Don't take out the money before you leave. I have another alert on my account from transactions over a certain amount so I can check for fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if your husband has the same alert set to monitor your usage.
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ffa4g
| 1,531,595,803 | 1,531,665,106 | 42 | 93 |
1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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OP, just a word on withdrawing money. Withdraw from your joint account on your way out of town. Don't take out the money before you leave. I have another alert on my account from transactions over a certain amount so I can check for fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if your husband has the same alert set to monitor your usage.
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8yvcu4
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ef0og
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e2ehd9s
| 1,531,610,158 | 1,531,612,787 | 75 | 87 |
Abort your pregnancy, then your marriage.
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OP, please, please be careful. Please call a women's shelter to get advice on leaving safely and covering your tracks. You can also call the police non-emergency number and ask for an escort as you pack your things. Statistically, an abusive partner is most likely to turn to violence when you attempt to leave. Additionally, being pregnant multiplies the chances of you dying at the hands of your partner. Be safe and don't take any chances. You're doing the right thing. Stay strong.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2efs2g
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e2ehd9s
| 1,531,610,992 | 1,531,612,787 | 69 | 87 |
**You do not, under any circumstances, need anyone's permission to get an abortion. Not your husband's, not your parents, no one!** This is the link for Planned Parenthood: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ They will help you obtain treatment. They will likely do it for a reduced cost, or even for free.
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OP, please, please be careful. Please call a women's shelter to get advice on leaving safely and covering your tracks. You can also call the police non-emergency number and ask for an escort as you pack your things. Statistically, an abusive partner is most likely to turn to violence when you attempt to leave. Additionally, being pregnant multiplies the chances of you dying at the hands of your partner. Be safe and don't take any chances. You're doing the right thing. Stay strong.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
| 0.9 |
I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ehd9s
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e2e1hvu
| 1,531,612,787 | 1,531,595,803 | 87 | 42 |
OP, please, please be careful. Please call a women's shelter to get advice on leaving safely and covering your tracks. You can also call the police non-emergency number and ask for an escort as you pack your things. Statistically, an abusive partner is most likely to turn to violence when you attempt to leave. Additionally, being pregnant multiplies the chances of you dying at the hands of your partner. Be safe and don't take any chances. You're doing the right thing. Stay strong.
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1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
| 0.9 |
I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ef0og
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e2etpa9
| 1,531,610,158 | 1,531,627,371 | 75 | 84 |
Abort your pregnancy, then your marriage.
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Take your id and some clothes & necessities. Go to the bank and take half the money; it's yours. Legally you can remove all the money, but half of it is his and a court would likely order you to return his share. Go to a DIFFERENT bank entirely to open an account in your name only. Keep enough cash for your abortion and living expenses for a couple weeks. NEVER tell anyone about that account, not even your parents. Then go to your parents' home. Get your abortion if that's what you want, and get a divorce lawyer. Also therapy. Wishing you the very best as you take your next steps as a free woman.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ep8nc
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e2etpa9
| 1,531,621,917 | 1,531,627,371 | 70 | 84 |
You sound like you are in a abusive relationship. Walk out the door and keep going until you get somewhere safe. Then follow the rest of the advice in this thread.
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Take your id and some clothes & necessities. Go to the bank and take half the money; it's yours. Legally you can remove all the money, but half of it is his and a court would likely order you to return his share. Go to a DIFFERENT bank entirely to open an account in your name only. Keep enough cash for your abortion and living expenses for a couple weeks. NEVER tell anyone about that account, not even your parents. Then go to your parents' home. Get your abortion if that's what you want, and get a divorce lawyer. Also therapy. Wishing you the very best as you take your next steps as a free woman.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2efs2g
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e2etpa9
| 1,531,610,992 | 1,531,627,371 | 69 | 84 |
**You do not, under any circumstances, need anyone's permission to get an abortion. Not your husband's, not your parents, no one!** This is the link for Planned Parenthood: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ They will help you obtain treatment. They will likely do it for a reduced cost, or even for free.
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Take your id and some clothes & necessities. Go to the bank and take half the money; it's yours. Legally you can remove all the money, but half of it is his and a court would likely order you to return his share. Go to a DIFFERENT bank entirely to open an account in your name only. Keep enough cash for your abortion and living expenses for a couple weeks. NEVER tell anyone about that account, not even your parents. Then go to your parents' home. Get your abortion if that's what you want, and get a divorce lawyer. Also therapy. Wishing you the very best as you take your next steps as a free woman.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2etpa9
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e2enqd0
| 1,531,627,371 | 1,531,620,138 | 84 | 51 |
Take your id and some clothes & necessities. Go to the bank and take half the money; it's yours. Legally you can remove all the money, but half of it is his and a court would likely order you to return his share. Go to a DIFFERENT bank entirely to open an account in your name only. Keep enough cash for your abortion and living expenses for a couple weeks. NEVER tell anyone about that account, not even your parents. Then go to your parents' home. Get your abortion if that's what you want, and get a divorce lawyer. Also therapy. Wishing you the very best as you take your next steps as a free woman.
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Something to consider: did your husband know that you didn’t want to be pregnant? Does he know you want to leave? Is it possible that he messed with your birth control/condoms in an attempt to make you stay?
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2etpa9
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e2e1hvu
| 1,531,627,371 | 1,531,595,803 | 84 | 42 |
Take your id and some clothes & necessities. Go to the bank and take half the money; it's yours. Legally you can remove all the money, but half of it is his and a court would likely order you to return his share. Go to a DIFFERENT bank entirely to open an account in your name only. Keep enough cash for your abortion and living expenses for a couple weeks. NEVER tell anyone about that account, not even your parents. Then go to your parents' home. Get your abortion if that's what you want, and get a divorce lawyer. Also therapy. Wishing you the very best as you take your next steps as a free woman.
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1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ef0og
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e2e1hvu
| 1,531,610,158 | 1,531,595,803 | 75 | 42 |
Abort your pregnancy, then your marriage.
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1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2efs2g
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e2ep8nc
| 1,531,610,992 | 1,531,621,917 | 69 | 70 |
**You do not, under any circumstances, need anyone's permission to get an abortion. Not your husband's, not your parents, no one!** This is the link for Planned Parenthood: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ They will help you obtain treatment. They will likely do it for a reduced cost, or even for free.
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You sound like you are in a abusive relationship. Walk out the door and keep going until you get somewhere safe. Then follow the rest of the advice in this thread.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2enqd0
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e2ep8nc
| 1,531,620,138 | 1,531,621,917 | 51 | 70 |
Something to consider: did your husband know that you didn’t want to be pregnant? Does he know you want to leave? Is it possible that he messed with your birth control/condoms in an attempt to make you stay?
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You sound like you are in a abusive relationship. Walk out the door and keep going until you get somewhere safe. Then follow the rest of the advice in this thread.
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8yvcu4
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2ep8nc
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e2e1hvu
| 1,531,621,917 | 1,531,595,803 | 70 | 42 |
You sound like you are in a abusive relationship. Walk out the door and keep going until you get somewhere safe. Then follow the rest of the advice in this thread.
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1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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legaladvice_train
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2efs2g
| 1,531,595,803 | 1,531,610,992 | 42 | 69 |
1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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**You do not, under any circumstances, need anyone's permission to get an abortion. Not your husband's, not your parents, no one!** This is the link for Planned Parenthood: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ They will help you obtain treatment. They will likely do it for a reduced cost, or even for free.
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8yvcu4
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I'm pregnant and I want to leave my husband I have been married for five years and this is my second pregnancy. I took the test yesterday and I think I am about 6 weeks. I had a late miscarriage last time and the pregnancy was awful (I was very sick.) I do not want to be pregnant. My husband found the test and when I told him I don't want to be pregnant he said he will not give his permission to have an abortion and it is fraud for me to get one without him. If I try to leave he will have me arrested for kidnapping. He said I do not have a valid reason to not want to be pregnant anymore. I have been wanting to leave for some time now and to go back to stay with my parents. I cannot use any of the money in the bank for this because they are joint accounts and I do not have my husband's permission. However I also have a debit card from a joint account with my mother that my husband does not know about. My questions are: 1) Is my account with my mom also marital property that I could get in trouble for using without his permission? 2) How likely is it that I will get in trouble if I go to NH (where my parents live) from KY (where I live now) and lie and say I don't know who the father is so I can get an abortion? I know it may be illegal but I am willing to risk it I can't handle another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your help and please please don't judge me
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e2e1hvu
| 1,531,620,138 | 1,531,595,803 | 51 | 42 |
Something to consider: did your husband know that you didn’t want to be pregnant? Does he know you want to leave? Is it possible that he messed with your birth control/condoms in an attempt to make you stay?
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1. Joint accounts mean that you have legal access to them. If you do want to divorce I would try not to use more than 50% that's in there since those accounts would usually be split 50/50 between you two. 2. You do not need spousal permission to go through an abortion. It's your body and it's your health. 3. If he's threatening kidnapping because of your being pregnant he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't get you arrested for leaving him, even if you're pregnant. 4. He sounds like a very controlling person and I would perhaps look into therapy for yourself. I obviously don't know the full story but it sounds like he at the very least mentally/emotionally abuses you. Everything you've said so far in your post is very alarming and his behavior is -- unusual to say the least. Edit: Misunderstood something, fixed part of my advice as a result.
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76lqu7
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[TX]I'm leaving my pregnant girlfriend because she refuses to get an abortion. I told her from the beginning I never want kids and if she got pregnant and didn't terminate I'd have nothing to do with her or the kid. Will I only have to pay child support and provide insurance? Also I know I'm a pos please don't remind me.
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doexzqd
| 1,508,102,002 | 1,508,101,996 | 288 | 134 |
The courts can't force you to have custody of the kid,but yes, you will be on the hook for child support and possibly insurance.
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Yes, you'll have to support the child you created.
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76lqu7
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legaladvice_train
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[TX]I'm leaving my pregnant girlfriend because she refuses to get an abortion. I told her from the beginning I never want kids and if she got pregnant and didn't terminate I'd have nothing to do with her or the kid. Will I only have to pay child support and provide insurance? Also I know I'm a pos please don't remind me.
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doey004
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doexzqd
| 1,508,102,004 | 1,508,101,996 | 241 | 134 |
If you want nothing to do with either of them, that’s your choice. You will have to pay child support, and you may have to list them on your insurance if a court orders it, but you will not be ordered to parent. If your coparent is similarly disinterested in parenthood, it’s be in both of your interests to cooperate long enough to deal with an adoption.
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Yes, you'll have to support the child you created.
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76lqu7
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legaladvice_train
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[TX]I'm leaving my pregnant girlfriend because she refuses to get an abortion. I told her from the beginning I never want kids and if she got pregnant and didn't terminate I'd have nothing to do with her or the kid. Will I only have to pay child support and provide insurance? Also I know I'm a pos please don't remind me.
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doexzqd
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dof1d4g
| 1,508,101,996 | 1,508,106,042 | 134 | 176 |
Yes, you'll have to support the child you created.
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Actually she would be within her rights to ask for half of childcare and expenses too. If you refuse to exercise parenting time, expect to pay as much as possible. You're also likely going to be imputed a higher income because $1000/mo isn't even minimum wage.
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5k9llu
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legaladvice_train
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(NC) My co-worker is pregnant and the test showed I'm the father. My wife filed for divorce but her husband decided to stay. How do I establish paternity if she is married but not to me?
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dbmlelg
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dbmjrxo
| 1,482,709,411 | 1,482,706,641 | 43 | 17 |
Isn't North Carolina known for their alienation of affection laws?
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In NC there is a marital presumption, so essentially if the mother is married at the time of conception or birth then the husband is presumed to be the father and their name is required be entered onto the birth certificate as the father. Once this happens the court can be asked to adjudicate who the actual father is if there is disagreement. So you would have to file a complaint for paternity with the court then go through their process to establish your paternity, which they may or may not recognised based on various factors (is she and the husband going to fight you on this?). Expect that to take some time, between notice periods, results of tests etc it will take several months. As others have said at least consult an attorney now, so you can figure out how to best approach this going forwards.
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xzptuv
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Accused of stealing money and being threatened with a search warrant. Recently I (19M) was accused by my grandmother of stealing money out of her purse. I occasionally visit her home to help with tasks such as maintenance or lawncare. She claims because my fingerprints were on her purse after she supposedly had it tested (the last time I was at her home was nearly a week ago, and I picked it up to move it out of the way.) The fingerprint story is likely a bluff afaik due to the fact that I don't ever recall having my prints taken for any reason. But to cut to the chase, how long would it take her to get a search warrant for my house, and what are the odds of me going to jail/prison even if I'm innocent and nothing is found?
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irnim8v
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irnnawl
| 1,665,334,037 | 1,665,335,936 | 700 | 2,200 |
> how long would it take her to get a search warrant for my house, Your grandmother doesn't get a search warrant or fingerprint her purse. All she can do is report her suspicion to the police and if the police are interested they will do those things. If they become interested and ask you to explain anything just tell them that you aren't interested in talking to them. That's all.
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In addition to what others said, wild claims like that can be a sign of dementia. If her children aren't aware of the issue you should bring it up to them.
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xzptuv
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
Accused of stealing money and being threatened with a search warrant. Recently I (19M) was accused by my grandmother of stealing money out of her purse. I occasionally visit her home to help with tasks such as maintenance or lawncare. She claims because my fingerprints were on her purse after she supposedly had it tested (the last time I was at her home was nearly a week ago, and I picked it up to move it out of the way.) The fingerprint story is likely a bluff afaik due to the fact that I don't ever recall having my prints taken for any reason. But to cut to the chase, how long would it take her to get a search warrant for my house, and what are the odds of me going to jail/prison even if I'm innocent and nothing is found?
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iro0la1
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irnz5p6
| 1,665,341,087 | 1,665,340,514 | 620 | 109 |
It does sound like dementia. Is she living alone? I'd stop visiting/helping her for now and let your parents know what she's accusing you of. It may be time for someone to step in. Even without dementia a lot of older people start to feel less safe on their own, they see bad things on the news and start worrying that they'd not be able to defend themselves if it happened to them. Being alone at night dwelling on stuff can lead to paranoia and accusations. Often the ones accused are also the closest ones to them.
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Near 0 chance . If she sues you you need to be at The court at the time listed. If police question you tell them nothing and don't go down to the station.
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xzptuv
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
Accused of stealing money and being threatened with a search warrant. Recently I (19M) was accused by my grandmother of stealing money out of her purse. I occasionally visit her home to help with tasks such as maintenance or lawncare. She claims because my fingerprints were on her purse after she supposedly had it tested (the last time I was at her home was nearly a week ago, and I picked it up to move it out of the way.) The fingerprint story is likely a bluff afaik due to the fact that I don't ever recall having my prints taken for any reason. But to cut to the chase, how long would it take her to get a search warrant for my house, and what are the odds of me going to jail/prison even if I'm innocent and nothing is found?
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iro0qak
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irnz5p6
| 1,665,341,139 | 1,665,340,514 | 368 | 109 |
She can’t just get a search warrant for your house, period. The police can request a warrant from a judge if they feel that they have probable cause that you committed a crime, and that they can prove that you did so by conducting a search. But unless we’re talking about an extraordinarily large amount of money, the likelihood of that happening is extremely slim to none.
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Near 0 chance . If she sues you you need to be at The court at the time listed. If police question you tell them nothing and don't go down to the station.
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I live near a facility owned and operated by the county. About 3 months ago, the facility went from being ignorably quiet to invasively loud. Is there anything I can do? (North Carolina) Hello LegalAdvice, I live on a 30 acre farm in the mountains of western North Carolina, and my property is not far the county landfill. “As the crow flies” it’s probably just under a mile from my house. The landfill has been in operation for about 20 years. To its credit, the county does do a good job of mitigating the effect that the facility has on the surrounding area and seems to take that seriously. In the six years I’ve lived here, I’ve had no real complaints about the landfill, and any effects or impacts I’ve felt have been minimal. That is, until around late September, when the beeping started. You see, there are two giant bulldozer type machines at the landfill that push the garbage around, level it, etc., and like all large commercial vehicles, these bulldozer things beep when they’re in reverse. Because I had never heard the beeping prior to this fall (seriously, it really came out of nowhere), what I suspect has happened is that they’ve moved or expanded the area where garbage gets dumped, which has changed the distance and/or direction of the bulldozers and their noise relative to my house. This beeping is not the kind of noise that you can just tune out and will eventually become ambient. I mean, it’s meant to get your attention and be difficult to ignore. That’s the point. But it’s really starting to fray my nerves a bit, and I’m not sure what, if anything, I can do about it. I’ll give you a general rundown of what I’ve experienced and observed over the past few months: - The beeping starts just before 8am (although I’ve heard the bulldozers as early as 6:45am, so before sunrise), and it’s pretty much constant for the next 8-9 hours. Depending on where the bulldozers are on the site, the beeping moves around and varies in intensity, so it can become more distant and muffled, and not quite so obtrusive, but it’s always *there*. I get maybe 30 minute-1 hour stretches without beeping 2-3 times a day. - I’ve been timing the beeping, and the average frequency and duration seems to be about 10-20 seconds of beeping, followed by 10-20 seconds of silence, followed by another 10-20 seconds of beeping, etc., but I’ve timed it lasting as long as a minute, and sometimes it comes and goes in shorter bursts. But that’s *per bulldozer*. If one isn’t beeping, the other one probably is, or they’re beeping at the same time... like I said, it’s pretty much constant. - The bulldozers frequently (I’d say at least twice a week) continue to operate well past business hours (landfill closes at 4:30 M-F, 12:30 on Sat). During the fall, before daylight savings time ended, they’d routinely be up there working past 6pm and occasionally even after dark. Last Saturday (12/21), the beeping stopped not long after the landfill closed, so I took the opportunity to relax outside on my deck, but the beeping suddenly started up again at around 3:30, and didn’t stop until dark, around 5:30. I eventually just gave up and went inside. This is a primary concern for me right now, as the daylight hours will only get longer from here. - The beeping can get *loud*. Have you ever been in your driveway as the UPS truck backed out? That loud. Not constantly, but if the bulldozers are on the side closer to me, which is at least 40% of the time (mainly at the beginning and end of the day), it ranges from “UPS truck backing out of your driveway” loud, to “UPS truck backing out of your neighbor’s driveway down the block” loud. At those times, I can hear the beeping in my house, with all the doors and windows closed. And Monday morning (12/23), the beeping was so loud it *woke me up* (I thought I might sleep in a bit. Nope!). I fully acknowledge and accept that choosing to live next to the landfill comes with potential risks and downsides (there are also some upsides). But is ceaseless beeping one of the risks I should have foreseen and expected? I’ve tried to temper my expectations and be realistic about what and/or how much can be done about this. While going back to zero beeping would obviously be ideal, I accept that might not happen. I also understand that “fighting” the county on this could be an uphill battle, and that even if they were sympathetic and *wanted* to help, there may only be so much they can do. So, my question for the legal minds of Reddit is: What would be the best way to go about addressing this? Where do I start? Should I talk to the person who manages the landfill (I’m not sure they’re even aware of the problem)? Contact my representative in the county government? Reach out to my neighbors and see if they’re being similarly effected? Or is this not a legitimate grievance and something I signed up for when I bought my property? I have no problem contacting a lawyer if necessary, and I have the means to do so, but I’m disinclined to take an adversarial approach until I’ve exhausted all other options. I guess I’m a bit of an idealist (or maybe delusional), but my best case scenario is that we (meaning the county, myself, and maybe my neighbors) could work together to find a solution or reach a compromise. Lastly, before anyone suggests it, yes, I have checked the noise ordinances for my county, and as expected, there are exceptions for “noises resulting from the normal operations of any governmental facility”. I just don’t know if there are exceptions to the exceptions, or what constitutes “normal operations”. Oh, also, I have some recordings of the beeping, if anyone would like to hear them. And, of course, I’d be happy to answer any questions or provide more info if needed. TIA
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fcantbk
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fca9ng7
| 1,577,572,952 | 1,577,565,231 | 21 | 3 |
Because automod deleted my video link: white noise backup alarms are a thing. They are required in some locations, instead of beeps. I would recommend asking the county to switch to those as they are safer (apparently humans can localize white noise more accurately than tonal noise) and less annoying for people not in immediate danger of being run over.
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You can check your local regulations to see what needs to occur to violate any noise ordinances. They usually state the hours for noises from construction. If they are starting earlier than they are supposed to, file a code violation. You should contact the landfill management and ask about the recent increase in noise. Maybe they are doing construction and the noise will be temporary. Maybe it is a new system of doing things and you can expect the noise for a long time.
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ex-carmax salesman harvested my personal and financial information from the dealership credit application and called my cellphone to solicit me for rooftop solar 15 months later I'm in California, USA. I bought a car from CarMax in 2021. My salesperson (let's call him Steve) helped me. Right before we signed papers Steve and I had a disagreement regarding the charger being included with the plug-in hybrid that I was purchasing. He became extremely rude and condescending to my wife and I so I spoke to a manager and finished the sale without him. I never heard anything from him again. ​ Fast-forward to tonight, nearly 15 months later: I get a call at 7:40pm from a local area code and I answer it. The person identifies themselves as Steve from Carmax and asks for me by my full first and last name, I don't confirm but instead say "what is this regarding" Steve goes on to say he helped me shop for(the make and model of car that I purchased) but he has recently switched industries and he was calling all his pervious customers that owned homes seeing if they were interested in putting solar on their roof given the pending net energy metering changes in California. He said are you still at (insert my home address). I paused and immediately asked if he was no longer a carmax employee how he had all my information including my home address and the knowledge that I owned my home. He started to stumble and back pedal and said he had it all saved in his phone, because he used his personal phone as a customer database for everyone he networked with. I could tell he was reaching for answers because he just kept talking and trying to explain. I interrupted his blabbering and said that it was extremely unprofessional and more than likely illegal to take my information from carmax when he left and please dont call me again. Before I could finish he hung up. ​ I never gave Steve my cellphone number, and he never called me from his cellphone during the car buying process. The only time I ever divulged peronal information (including my income, SSN, addresses, and owning a house) was on the carmax credit application that the salesperson fills out on the computer with the buyer. Before Steve left carmax he had to have gotten my sensitive personal information from the carmax system/database. Given his verbiage/script, I'm positive I'm not the only one he called, so he definitely done this to others too. ​ Should I tell CarMax/will they care? Is this illegal? Do I have any recourse? ​ tl;dr guy who showed me cars and I filled out a credit application with harvested my personal and financial information before the left the dealership and is now calling asking if I want to buy solar from him at his new job.
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j28a1ea
| 1,672,383,915 | 1,672,396,408 | 23 | 41 |
Not much recourse. It would be a CCPA (California Consumer Privacy Act) violation. See the AG’s office: https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa#collapse7 Under Gen Info Chap 7 : “You cannot sue businesses for most CCPA violations. You can only sue a business under the CCPA if there is a data breach, and even then, only under limited circumstances. You can sue a business if your nonencrypted and nonredacted personal information was stolen in a data breach as a result of the business’s failure to maintain reasonable security procedures and practices to protect it. If this happens, you can sue for the amount of monetary damages you actually suffered from the breach or “statutory damages” of up to $750 per incident. If you want to sue for statutory damages, you must give the business written notice of which CCPA sections it violated and give it 30 days to give you a written statement that it has cured the violations in your notice and that no further violations will occur. You cannot sue for statutory damages for a CCPA violation if the business is able to cure the violation and gives you its written statement that it has done so, unless the business continues to violate the CCPA contrary to its statement. For all other violations of the CCPA, only the Attorney General can file an action against businesses. The Attorney General does not represent individual California consumers. Using consumer complaints and other information, the Attorney General may identify patterns of misconduct that may lead to investigations and actions on behalf of the collective legal interests of the people of California. If you believe a business has violated the CCPA, you may file a consumer complaint with the Office of the Attorney General. If you choose to file a complaint with our office, explain exactly how the business violated the CCPA, and describe when and how the violation occurred. Please note that the Attorney General cannot represent you or give you legal advice on how to resolve your individual complaint.”
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While I don't know the legality of what "steve" did, I suggest you put a freeze on your credit with the 3 credit bureaus at the very least. Contacting CarMax would also be a good second step.
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s5uuu5
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legaladvice_train
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My boss said he is taking my workers comp checks? So, long story short.. back in the middle of November, I hurt my back. I was off for two weeks. My boss put in a workers comp claim and I am just now hearing back about it. He said that he is taking both of my workers comp checks because I don’t deserve them.. he said he is having them made out to the company. Is this allowed?? This is illegal right??
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ht0jr3s
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hszzos7
| 1,642,406,429 | 1,642,394,116 | 332 | 269 |
Workers Comp isn't going to send money to your company. They might inquire to how the accident happened and want that side of the story. My case hasn't even been settled. The preferred pay method insurance wants is direct deposit anyway. You should call a Workers Comp lawyer. There is r/WorkersComp.
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Do not hand them over. Speak to a worker's comp attorney.
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s5uuu5
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legaladvice_train
| 0.98 |
My boss said he is taking my workers comp checks? So, long story short.. back in the middle of November, I hurt my back. I was off for two weeks. My boss put in a workers comp claim and I am just now hearing back about it. He said that he is taking both of my workers comp checks because I don’t deserve them.. he said he is having them made out to the company. Is this allowed?? This is illegal right??
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ht43nbe
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ht4rp3k
| 1,642,467,377 | 1,642,477,504 | 10 | 12 |
Man... if that is in writing, a worker's comp attorney is going to have a field day. Like internally salivating to represent you field day
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I'm a work comp adjuster and we would never send checks for your claim to the employer unless we wanted to face massive penalties. I hope the adjuster makes that clear to the employer.
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s5uuu5
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legaladvice_train
| 0.98 |
My boss said he is taking my workers comp checks? So, long story short.. back in the middle of November, I hurt my back. I was off for two weeks. My boss put in a workers comp claim and I am just now hearing back about it. He said that he is taking both of my workers comp checks because I don’t deserve them.. he said he is having them made out to the company. Is this allowed?? This is illegal right??
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ht2hqmx
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ht4rp3k
| 1,642,444,322 | 1,642,477,504 | 8 | 12 |
How would he get them to send him money? Workers comp should be paying you directly, but I guess it could depend on where you live. Call your case worker and explain the situation, they'll be able to tell you how it all works and advise you on what to do.
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I'm a work comp adjuster and we would never send checks for your claim to the employer unless we wanted to face massive penalties. I hope the adjuster makes that clear to the employer.
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s5uuu5
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legaladvice_train
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My boss said he is taking my workers comp checks? So, long story short.. back in the middle of November, I hurt my back. I was off for two weeks. My boss put in a workers comp claim and I am just now hearing back about it. He said that he is taking both of my workers comp checks because I don’t deserve them.. he said he is having them made out to the company. Is this allowed?? This is illegal right??
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ht3axr5
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ht4rp3k
| 1,642,455,502 | 1,642,477,504 | 5 | 12 |
That’s illegal. Workers comp is there for that reason specifically. Consult with an attorney asap.
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I'm a work comp adjuster and we would never send checks for your claim to the employer unless we wanted to face massive penalties. I hope the adjuster makes that clear to the employer.
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s5uuu5
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legaladvice_train
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My boss said he is taking my workers comp checks? So, long story short.. back in the middle of November, I hurt my back. I was off for two weeks. My boss put in a workers comp claim and I am just now hearing back about it. He said that he is taking both of my workers comp checks because I don’t deserve them.. he said he is having them made out to the company. Is this allowed?? This is illegal right??
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ht33ik8
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ht4rp3k
| 1,642,452,628 | 1,642,477,504 | 5 | 12 |
Get him to say that in writing and then sue the F outta him.
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I'm a work comp adjuster and we would never send checks for your claim to the employer unless we wanted to face massive penalties. I hope the adjuster makes that clear to the employer.
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s5uuu5
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legaladvice_train
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My boss said he is taking my workers comp checks? So, long story short.. back in the middle of November, I hurt my back. I was off for two weeks. My boss put in a workers comp claim and I am just now hearing back about it. He said that he is taking both of my workers comp checks because I don’t deserve them.. he said he is having them made out to the company. Is this allowed?? This is illegal right??
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ht2hqmx
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ht43nbe
| 1,642,444,322 | 1,642,467,377 | 8 | 10 |
How would he get them to send him money? Workers comp should be paying you directly, but I guess it could depend on where you live. Call your case worker and explain the situation, they'll be able to tell you how it all works and advise you on what to do.
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Man... if that is in writing, a worker's comp attorney is going to have a field day. Like internally salivating to represent you field day
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s5uuu5
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legaladvice_train
| 0.98 |
My boss said he is taking my workers comp checks? So, long story short.. back in the middle of November, I hurt my back. I was off for two weeks. My boss put in a workers comp claim and I am just now hearing back about it. He said that he is taking both of my workers comp checks because I don’t deserve them.. he said he is having them made out to the company. Is this allowed?? This is illegal right??
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ht43nbe
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ht3axr5
| 1,642,467,377 | 1,642,455,502 | 10 | 5 |
Man... if that is in writing, a worker's comp attorney is going to have a field day. Like internally salivating to represent you field day
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That’s illegal. Workers comp is there for that reason specifically. Consult with an attorney asap.
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s5uuu5
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legaladvice_train
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My boss said he is taking my workers comp checks? So, long story short.. back in the middle of November, I hurt my back. I was off for two weeks. My boss put in a workers comp claim and I am just now hearing back about it. He said that he is taking both of my workers comp checks because I don’t deserve them.. he said he is having them made out to the company. Is this allowed?? This is illegal right??
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ht33ik8
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ht43nbe
| 1,642,452,628 | 1,642,467,377 | 5 | 10 |
Get him to say that in writing and then sue the F outta him.
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Man... if that is in writing, a worker's comp attorney is going to have a field day. Like internally salivating to represent you field day
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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In addition to everyone else's suggestions, I would also suggest seeking out civil legal aid (which you probably qualify for if you have WIC). This site can connect you with NY legal aid resources, who may be able to help you navigate figuring out how to deal with this. As a note - while it may be legal to fire someone for using a public benefit in NY, it is not in the public interest, and you may also want to drop a line to your state representative and senator. They may be able to point you to more help.
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OP, please contact A Better Balance: www.abetterbalance.org They are a NYC-based non-profit consisting of attorneys that focus on labor rights for women, mothers and families. I've worked with them in the past and they do excellent work and can give you legal advice. Good luck.
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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OP, please contact A Better Balance: www.abetterbalance.org They are a NYC-based non-profit consisting of attorneys that focus on labor rights for women, mothers and families. I've worked with them in the past and they do excellent work and can give you legal advice. Good luck.
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Edit: Revised. See my response to Ramady below. I'm having a hard time believing this is a real post and not a skit from a bad indie movie, but regardless: Both /u/jumbledfiasco and /u/ordermeetschaos are debating a side issue. To be clear, if you are an at-will employee you can be fired for any reason that isn't *illegally* discriminatory, or doesn't fall under a public policy exception, and then a few other things on top of that. Many, many legal firings are discriminatory. Most workplace discrimination is legal. The question here isn't "is firing someone for using WIC discrimination" (which it is) but rather, "is firing someone for using WIC legal or illegal discrimination?" ~~I can't find anything to suggest this would be an illegal firing. But NY might have some laws that don't immediately pop up upon a search.~~ REVISED: WIC is a federal program that is specifically intended for women with children, making a firing for using it *potentially* gender discrimination and/or familial status discrimination. However, the pumping room threat would be illegal if carried out, depending on the age of the child: >*...section 7 of the Fair Labor Standards Act (“FLSA”) requires employers to provide “reasonable break time for an employee to express breast milk for her nursing child for 1 year after the child’s birth each time such employee has need to express the milk.” Employers are also required to provide “a place, other than a bathroom, that is shielded from view and free from intrusion from coworkers and the public, which may be used by an employee to express breast milk.” See 29 U.S.C. 207(r).* Edit, typo.
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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OP, please contact A Better Balance: www.abetterbalance.org They are a NYC-based non-profit consisting of attorneys that focus on labor rights for women, mothers and families. I've worked with them in the past and they do excellent work and can give you legal advice. Good luck.
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Approximately 15 years ago foodstamps went to a debit card system. Are wic funds still disbursed on paper?
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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In addition to everyone else's suggestions, I would also suggest seeking out civil legal aid (which you probably qualify for if you have WIC). This site can connect you with NY legal aid resources, who may be able to help you navigate figuring out how to deal with this. As a note - while it may be legal to fire someone for using a public benefit in NY, it is not in the public interest, and you may also want to drop a line to your state representative and senator. They may be able to point you to more help.
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Edit: Revised. See my response to Ramady below. I'm having a hard time believing this is a real post and not a skit from a bad indie movie, but regardless: Both /u/jumbledfiasco and /u/ordermeetschaos are debating a side issue. To be clear, if you are an at-will employee you can be fired for any reason that isn't *illegally* discriminatory, or doesn't fall under a public policy exception, and then a few other things on top of that. Many, many legal firings are discriminatory. Most workplace discrimination is legal. The question here isn't "is firing someone for using WIC discrimination" (which it is) but rather, "is firing someone for using WIC legal or illegal discrimination?" ~~I can't find anything to suggest this would be an illegal firing. But NY might have some laws that don't immediately pop up upon a search.~~ REVISED: WIC is a federal program that is specifically intended for women with children, making a firing for using it *potentially* gender discrimination and/or familial status discrimination. However, the pumping room threat would be illegal if carried out, depending on the age of the child: >*...section 7 of the Fair Labor Standards Act (“FLSA”) requires employers to provide “reasonable break time for an employee to express breast milk for her nursing child for 1 year after the child’s birth each time such employee has need to express the milk.” Employers are also required to provide “a place, other than a bathroom, that is shielded from view and free from intrusion from coworkers and the public, which may be used by an employee to express breast milk.” See 29 U.S.C. 207(r).* Edit, typo.
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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Approximately 15 years ago foodstamps went to a debit card system. Are wic funds still disbursed on paper?
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In addition to everyone else's suggestions, I would also suggest seeking out civil legal aid (which you probably qualify for if you have WIC). This site can connect you with NY legal aid resources, who may be able to help you navigate figuring out how to deal with this. As a note - while it may be legal to fire someone for using a public benefit in NY, it is not in the public interest, and you may also want to drop a line to your state representative and senator. They may be able to point you to more help.
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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Edit: Revised. See my response to Ramady below. I'm having a hard time believing this is a real post and not a skit from a bad indie movie, but regardless: Both /u/jumbledfiasco and /u/ordermeetschaos are debating a side issue. To be clear, if you are an at-will employee you can be fired for any reason that isn't *illegally* discriminatory, or doesn't fall under a public policy exception, and then a few other things on top of that. Many, many legal firings are discriminatory. Most workplace discrimination is legal. The question here isn't "is firing someone for using WIC discrimination" (which it is) but rather, "is firing someone for using WIC legal or illegal discrimination?" ~~I can't find anything to suggest this would be an illegal firing. But NY might have some laws that don't immediately pop up upon a search.~~ REVISED: WIC is a federal program that is specifically intended for women with children, making a firing for using it *potentially* gender discrimination and/or familial status discrimination. However, the pumping room threat would be illegal if carried out, depending on the age of the child: >*...section 7 of the Fair Labor Standards Act (“FLSA”) requires employers to provide “reasonable break time for an employee to express breast milk for her nursing child for 1 year after the child’s birth each time such employee has need to express the milk.” Employers are also required to provide “a place, other than a bathroom, that is shielded from view and free from intrusion from coworkers and the public, which may be used by an employee to express breast milk.” See 29 U.S.C. 207(r).* Edit, typo.
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I'm not a lawyer, but I live in NY state, and there are all kinds of protections for breastfeeding mothers. If he follows through with taking away your place to pump, you'd probably have some sort of case against him. Also, SAVE THOSE TEXTS. OMG, how stupid is he that he put that in writing.
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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I'm not a lawyer, but I live in NY state, and there are all kinds of protections for breastfeeding mothers. If he follows through with taking away your place to pump, you'd probably have some sort of case against him. Also, SAVE THOSE TEXTS. OMG, how stupid is he that he put that in writing.
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Approximately 15 years ago foodstamps went to a debit card system. Are wic funds still disbursed on paper?
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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Not a lawyer but one piece of advice to add is you a boss that is willing to stupidly text you threats of termination. Don't discuss the breastfeeding issue in person. You want that documented. You can text him anything from your need to pump during your regularly scheduled breaks & the need to supplement with formula. I think the breastfeeding issue is going to be the key here.
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Op, please be sure to retain copies of his text messages and a detailed breakdown of your phone bill (usually available from your carrier online, for free) which shows the number the messages came from. Also take notes of what was said to you during that meeting. I would take it a step further and document it via email and send that email to your boss asking for written clarification of what he said and what the final ruling is on you being able to pump at work. This may make him realize that you're documenting his behavior and have him backtrack, or he will confirm what you said in writing. As others have suggested, please file a complaint with the EEOC and reach out to your local senators, especially Kirsten Gillibrand.
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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Op, please be sure to retain copies of his text messages and a detailed breakdown of your phone bill (usually available from your carrier online, for free) which shows the number the messages came from. Also take notes of what was said to you during that meeting. I would take it a step further and document it via email and send that email to your boss asking for written clarification of what he said and what the final ruling is on you being able to pump at work. This may make him realize that you're documenting his behavior and have him backtrack, or he will confirm what you said in writing. As others have suggested, please file a complaint with the EEOC and reach out to your local senators, especially Kirsten Gillibrand.
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Approximately 15 years ago foodstamps went to a debit card system. Are wic funds still disbursed on paper?
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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Not a lawyer but one piece of advice to add is you a boss that is willing to stupidly text you threats of termination. Don't discuss the breastfeeding issue in person. You want that documented. You can text him anything from your need to pump during your regularly scheduled breaks & the need to supplement with formula. I think the breastfeeding issue is going to be the key here.
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Approximately 15 years ago foodstamps went to a debit card system. Are wic funds still disbursed on paper?
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(NY) Boss threatening to fire me unless I stop using WIC checks Location is NY and throwaway because this is humiliating. Basically, my boss saw me in the grocery store using WIC checks to pay for part of my groceries & a can of baby formula. He texted me afterwards, to say "It reflects badly on me if my employee is using WIC. It makes it look like I don't pay you enough. I hope you can understand that if I find out you are continuing to use government assistance, I will have to fire you." I responded back apologizing and requested that we talk about it in person (at work) the next day. During that conversation, I explained that the only government assistance I get is WIC which is a benefit of about $75 a month, and that if he was willing to raise my pay $75 a month I would stop using the checks. He refused. He further stated that he was considering cutting off access to the room that I pump in, because he had seen I was buying baby formula. This was previously never an issue - I pump on my regular breaks, in an unused room. I have never requested any sort of accommodation or extra break time for pumping. I told him that I have to supplement a little formula because I can't pump enough for the baby, but that I wish to continue pumping on my own regular breaks. He's still considering it. I know the NY pumping law covers this, at least. Basically, my question is if there is anything I can do if he follows through? I feel like it has to be wrong to fire someone for using a government program that they are qualified for. Where would I report this, and what should I do if I am fired? I am now looking for another job, but I'm afraid of being jobless if it takes a little while to secure something.
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As an HR Director, you’ve gotten tons of great advice so I’ll just say this made me very angry and, as somebody in HR, would hope that you have a rep where you work that would help protect you from illegal actions such as this! Also, always document document document. Because somebody who thinks they can fire you over that is certainly not doing so.
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Approximately 15 years ago foodstamps went to a debit card system. Are wic funds still disbursed on paper?
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My former employer withheld the information that my drinking water was contaminated with Arsenic (carcinogen), which I think contributed to giving me a chronic illness. I have emails and tests to prove that he knew but didn't tell. (BC, Canada) My girlfriend and I worked on a small private island in BC. My superiors were the caretakers of the island, my girlfriend and I worked in the garden. We drunk out of the garden well every day. While working there I began to not be able to digest certain foods and was diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I assumed it was onset from stress and have been trying to manage it. We lived and worked there for 6 and half months. I have just found out from the previous caretakers (the caretakers from the year before that were fired) that they asked for the garden well to be tested. The owner of the island got it tested, but for some reason wouldn't show the results. They tested it out on their own and found high levels of Arsenic, known to destroy the gut biome, causing gut disruption which often leads to liver cancer. These previous caretakers never mentioned this to the new caretakers, so they (the caretakers I worked with) had no idea. But the owner of the island clearly did. I can get email evidence and the test results from the previous caretakers. I suffer with in indigestion and diarrhea every day. Is there a case here? I want justice. But he is a millionaire. Would I ever be able to survive the legal battle? I have no savings. Thank you for your help.
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Collect evidence first. Now you were exposed during work. Did your employer have Worksafe BC coverage? If they did they are your first call. If they did not, you likely need a personal injury lawyer. Some will work for a portion of the pay out a bit up front as a retainer.
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Do more water quality research as well. Arsenic is very common in water systems and will have ambient naturally occuring background levels as well as treatment limits. It will turn hair a reddish color. Your home water supply may also be a source even if filtered. This information would be helpful to your toxicologist. I recommend sampling work and home systems. Special sample containers are needed and have protocals on how to collect the samples. A chain of custody form provided by the lab is also needed
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fnarsb
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My former employer withheld the information that my drinking water was contaminated with Arsenic (carcinogen), which I think contributed to giving me a chronic illness. I have emails and tests to prove that he knew but didn't tell. (BC, Canada) My girlfriend and I worked on a small private island in BC. My superiors were the caretakers of the island, my girlfriend and I worked in the garden. We drunk out of the garden well every day. While working there I began to not be able to digest certain foods and was diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I assumed it was onset from stress and have been trying to manage it. We lived and worked there for 6 and half months. I have just found out from the previous caretakers (the caretakers from the year before that were fired) that they asked for the garden well to be tested. The owner of the island got it tested, but for some reason wouldn't show the results. They tested it out on their own and found high levels of Arsenic, known to destroy the gut biome, causing gut disruption which often leads to liver cancer. These previous caretakers never mentioned this to the new caretakers, so they (the caretakers I worked with) had no idea. But the owner of the island clearly did. I can get email evidence and the test results from the previous caretakers. I suffer with in indigestion and diarrhea every day. Is there a case here? I want justice. But he is a millionaire. Would I ever be able to survive the legal battle? I have no savings. Thank you for your help.
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fl9jza3
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fl9q32d
| 1,584,959,154 | 1,584,965,913 | 28 | 55 |
The well may also have Giardia or other bugs that could also explain your symptoms.
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How many ppb? I reviewed the UpToDate literate and it mentions liver/skin issues but nothing of IBS. I found nothing relating gut bacteria to chronic arsenic exposure in the literature. There does appear to be quite a bit of information regarding ppb levels and effects. Without the ppb it would be difficult to prove anything.
| 0 | 6,759 | 1.964286 |
sw0ksx
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| 0.92 |
My employer is telling me that the reason I have not had any federal taxes withheld on my wages is because of Biden? I started at my current employer last April. I got my W2 and noticed my box 2 is empty. I started looking through my paystubs and federal taxes have never been withheld on any of them. Once I caught this, I immediately contacted our HR rep. I told her when I hired on and signed my W4, I wanted to claim 0 exemptions so that the most amount of taxes would be withheld during the year to ensure I would not owe anything back at tax time. She is saying "everything matches in the system" according to how I filled out my W4. I asked her to send me a copy of the W4 so I could look at it. Once she emailed it to me, my SSN is not on the form, and the bottom part for the employer to sign is also blank. I pointed that out to her and said the IRS would not accept an incomplete form like that, so that is why I have not been paying taxes. She said the W4 is not submitted to the IRS, they just input the info into our payroll system. She keeps repeating that I need to "Google the new tax laws under our current presidential administration" to see why I am not paying taxes. I have no idea what she's talking about. Can anyone help me out on what I can do to correct this? I find it incredibly difficult to belive that no one in the US is paying federal taxes because Biden said so.
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hxkcpxm
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hxjocgr
| 1,645,268,237 | 1,645,249,317 | 27 | 25 |
The advice here is correct, I will just add that your withholding also depends on how much you make and if you said to withhold as single or married on your W4. Because of the standard deduction, there is a portion of your income which would not be subject to federal income tax. Withholding takes this into account. This means if you are making under a certain amount per pay period then it is possible to have no federal income tax withheld. As other comments have mentioned, the W-4 is new and there are no allowances. The W-4 is designed to withhold tax as accurately as possible. If you are married and your spouse works, then you need to read the form and fill it out appropriately to account for that.
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Your employer is required to withhold payroll taxes unless you claim to be exempt. There are boxes for specific dollar amounts related to child care/dependent credits. There's no more "I want 1-9 exemptions (dependents)" to adjust withholding amounts on a w-4 form. Your supposed to used a calculator on the IRS website to determine the amount. I did have a employee this who actually got confused with the terminology with the change in the W-4. He ended up not getting any federal tax withheld throughout the year, but he didn't catch till he sat down to do his taxes because he never reviewed his pay stubs. Legally, it has nothing to do with Biden. It's just the terminology between "exempt" and "exemptions" on the form confused people. There was no way to claim exemptions on the form in April. That was likely the the problem. The only thing you could claim was exempt. If you claimed exempt on the form, then your employer is in the clear on doing anything wrong. Did you get a chance to review your pay stubs to see if there was a deduction for FICA taxes?
| 1 | 18,920 | 1.08 |
unblwn
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legaladvice_train
| 0.77 |
My Employer says I cant work another side job or do anything else outside of work like a job or something right. What if I dont report it and just dont tell anyone. Will they eventually find out? Do they have people like monitoring my social security number? Thanks! any legal device is good. Im supposed to report all my side jobs or projects or whatever, but heres the thing. Im not gonna because they are just gonna tell me i cant do it
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i86xm40
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i86wpp8
| 1,652,281,351 | 1,652,280,996 | 30 | 12 |
If you don't have a contract (most people don't in the US), there's not much they can do to find out unless they're using a HR system that reports other employment with the same system (there are one or two that do - check out r/overemployed for detail there). If they do find out, then they can (and probably will) fire you.
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Generally, No employers writes it in the contract. Check employment agreement. I’m not a lawyer, Take legal advice on the employment agreement. Most of them will mention ‘at-will’ meaning you can leave and they can fire you at anytime.
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7gd18f
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| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi5xfk
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dqi6f68
| 1,511,962,098 | 1,511,962,780 | 209 | 3,054 |
I would insist in filling a police report for theft.
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Did you call the police? Because when someone refuses to return your property you call the police. And they’d solve the matter in all of 2 minutes. Go to the bar when the place opens and ask for it back, if they refuse call the police and wait for them to show up. Plenty of underage kids claim to have real ID’s. All of them threaten to call the police on the bar. None of them get the officers there. I’d have stayed in the venue until an officer showed up. Next best thing is to tell/ask the day shift manager for it back.
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7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi6f68
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dqi6aro
| 1,511,962,780 | 1,511,962,615 | 3,054 | 141 |
Did you call the police? Because when someone refuses to return your property you call the police. And they’d solve the matter in all of 2 minutes. Go to the bar when the place opens and ask for it back, if they refuse call the police and wait for them to show up. Plenty of underage kids claim to have real ID’s. All of them threaten to call the police on the bar. None of them get the officers there. I’d have stayed in the venue until an officer showed up. Next best thing is to tell/ask the day shift manager for it back.
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I would start off by calling the State Department and asking what you should do if a private business has confiscated your passport. After all, it is property of the US Government, so the bar has technically confiscated US Government property. I would then physically go to the police station and file a police report detailing the incident. I would also request that an officer escort you back to the bar during operating hours to attempt to retrieve your IDs. At the very least they will be able to verify the authenticity of the DL and should help you get your property back. Edit: Ive been informed that the following is terrible advice and you should carry your passport with you wherever you wish, so take the next part with a grain of salt...In the future, it's probably a good idea to not walk around the US with your passport on your person. If you really need it, make a copy and keep it in your wallet, but store the physical passport in a safe place at home.
| 1 | 165 | 21.659574 |
7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi62br
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dqi6f68
| 1,511,962,291 | 1,511,962,780 | 64 | 3,054 |
There is really nothing else you can do except get the police involved here.
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Did you call the police? Because when someone refuses to return your property you call the police. And they’d solve the matter in all of 2 minutes. Go to the bar when the place opens and ask for it back, if they refuse call the police and wait for them to show up. Plenty of underage kids claim to have real ID’s. All of them threaten to call the police on the bar. None of them get the officers there. I’d have stayed in the venue until an officer showed up. Next best thing is to tell/ask the day shift manager for it back.
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7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqiatu8
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dqi5xfk
| 1,511,968,023 | 1,511,962,098 | 395 | 209 |
Take an Uber or Lyft to the police station. As u/rhapsodyknit said, bring with you a bill or something with your name on it. You should have alerted the police the second the manager took your passport.
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I would insist in filling a police report for theft.
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7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi6aro
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dqiatu8
| 1,511,962,615 | 1,511,968,023 | 141 | 395 |
I would start off by calling the State Department and asking what you should do if a private business has confiscated your passport. After all, it is property of the US Government, so the bar has technically confiscated US Government property. I would then physically go to the police station and file a police report detailing the incident. I would also request that an officer escort you back to the bar during operating hours to attempt to retrieve your IDs. At the very least they will be able to verify the authenticity of the DL and should help you get your property back. Edit: Ive been informed that the following is terrible advice and you should carry your passport with you wherever you wish, so take the next part with a grain of salt...In the future, it's probably a good idea to not walk around the US with your passport on your person. If you really need it, make a copy and keep it in your wallet, but store the physical passport in a safe place at home.
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Take an Uber or Lyft to the police station. As u/rhapsodyknit said, bring with you a bill or something with your name on it. You should have alerted the police the second the manager took your passport.
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7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi9ezl
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dqiatu8
| 1,511,966,455 | 1,511,968,023 | 107 | 395 |
call 911 and report that your passport and id have been stolen if you do not get it back right away, contact the state department and let them know it has been stolen, and they will cancel it https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/lost-stolen.html you can get a replacement temporary NC driver's licence online https://edmv.ncdot.gov/DuplicateDriverLicense
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Take an Uber or Lyft to the police station. As u/rhapsodyknit said, bring with you a bill or something with your name on it. You should have alerted the police the second the manager took your passport.
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7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqiatu8
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dqi62br
| 1,511,968,023 | 1,511,962,291 | 395 | 64 |
Take an Uber or Lyft to the police station. As u/rhapsodyknit said, bring with you a bill or something with your name on it. You should have alerted the police the second the manager took your passport.
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There is really nothing else you can do except get the police involved here.
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7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi5xfk
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dqicl88
| 1,511,962,098 | 1,511,969,851 | 209 | 221 |
I would insist in filling a police report for theft.
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Go to the police, ASAP as other's have said, Passport theft is a very very serious crime and since 9/11 most authorities have zero patience for that.
| 0 | 7,753 | 1.057416 |
7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqicl88
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dqi6aro
| 1,511,969,851 | 1,511,962,615 | 221 | 141 |
Go to the police, ASAP as other's have said, Passport theft is a very very serious crime and since 9/11 most authorities have zero patience for that.
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I would start off by calling the State Department and asking what you should do if a private business has confiscated your passport. After all, it is property of the US Government, so the bar has technically confiscated US Government property. I would then physically go to the police station and file a police report detailing the incident. I would also request that an officer escort you back to the bar during operating hours to attempt to retrieve your IDs. At the very least they will be able to verify the authenticity of the DL and should help you get your property back. Edit: Ive been informed that the following is terrible advice and you should carry your passport with you wherever you wish, so take the next part with a grain of salt...In the future, it's probably a good idea to not walk around the US with your passport on your person. If you really need it, make a copy and keep it in your wallet, but store the physical passport in a safe place at home.
| 1 | 7,236 | 1.567376 |
7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi9ezl
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dqicl88
| 1,511,966,455 | 1,511,969,851 | 107 | 221 |
call 911 and report that your passport and id have been stolen if you do not get it back right away, contact the state department and let them know it has been stolen, and they will cancel it https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/lost-stolen.html you can get a replacement temporary NC driver's licence online https://edmv.ncdot.gov/DuplicateDriverLicense
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Go to the police, ASAP as other's have said, Passport theft is a very very serious crime and since 9/11 most authorities have zero patience for that.
| 0 | 3,396 | 2.065421 |
7gd18f
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi62br
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dqicl88
| 1,511,962,291 | 1,511,969,851 | 64 | 221 |
There is really nothing else you can do except get the police involved here.
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Go to the police, ASAP as other's have said, Passport theft is a very very serious crime and since 9/11 most authorities have zero patience for that.
| 0 | 7,560 | 3.453125 |
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[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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FWIW, I used to work criminal counterintelligence investigations for the military. If a passport were stolen, the Department of State would REALLY like to know about it.
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I would start off by calling the State Department and asking what you should do if a private business has confiscated your passport. After all, it is property of the US Government, so the bar has technically confiscated US Government property. I would then physically go to the police station and file a police report detailing the incident. I would also request that an officer escort you back to the bar during operating hours to attempt to retrieve your IDs. At the very least they will be able to verify the authenticity of the DL and should help you get your property back. Edit: Ive been informed that the following is terrible advice and you should carry your passport with you wherever you wish, so take the next part with a grain of salt...In the future, it's probably a good idea to not walk around the US with your passport on your person. If you really need it, make a copy and keep it in your wallet, but store the physical passport in a safe place at home.
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[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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call 911 and report that your passport and id have been stolen if you do not get it back right away, contact the state department and let them know it has been stolen, and they will cancel it https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/lost-stolen.html you can get a replacement temporary NC driver's licence online https://edmv.ncdot.gov/DuplicateDriverLicense
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FWIW, I used to work criminal counterintelligence investigations for the military. If a passport were stolen, the Department of State would REALLY like to know about it.
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[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqipuqc
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There is really nothing else you can do except get the police involved here.
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FWIW, I used to work criminal counterintelligence investigations for the military. If a passport were stolen, the Department of State would REALLY like to know about it.
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[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi62br
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I would start off by calling the State Department and asking what you should do if a private business has confiscated your passport. After all, it is property of the US Government, so the bar has technically confiscated US Government property. I would then physically go to the police station and file a police report detailing the incident. I would also request that an officer escort you back to the bar during operating hours to attempt to retrieve your IDs. At the very least they will be able to verify the authenticity of the DL and should help you get your property back. Edit: Ive been informed that the following is terrible advice and you should carry your passport with you wherever you wish, so take the next part with a grain of salt...In the future, it's probably a good idea to not walk around the US with your passport on your person. If you really need it, make a copy and keep it in your wallet, but store the physical passport in a safe place at home.
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There is really nothing else you can do except get the police involved here.
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[MI/NC] Bartender took my (real) ID and passport and won't give them back! I'm a NC resident attending a MI 4 year college. I just turned 21 about a month ago, and I went to a dive bar/music venue to drink and watch a show. I look incredibly young in person, but my ID is up-to-date and so is my passport as well. The bartender confiscated my ID last night because it looked fake because: "it is out-of-state and your hair doesnt match." My hair is currently dark purple, but in my license picture it's black, it looks almost exactly the same in a dimly lit bar anyway! So I tell the bartender I have a passport and he is confiscating my real ID and he says he will believe me when I bring my passport. I retrieve my passport, which clearly shows my age, and this time I ask to speak to the manager. The manager REFUSES to give my ID back, saying he's going to call the police to confiscate it, AND THEN HE TAKES MY PASSPORT. No, I'm not kidding, I wish I was. He went on a rant about how I tried so hard to act "of age" and had all this fake proof and a fake life. By this point the venue is almost empty and the bouncers kick us out. I now have 0 forms of identification on me. What can I do here? I'm supposed to drive back home in 10 days for a wedding, and I'm worried that he did call the police, they told him it was real, and he threw them away or something. Please help!
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dqi9ezl
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There is really nothing else you can do except get the police involved here.
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call 911 and report that your passport and id have been stolen if you do not get it back right away, contact the state department and let them know it has been stolen, and they will cancel it https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/lost-stolen.html you can get a replacement temporary NC driver's licence online https://edmv.ncdot.gov/DuplicateDriverLicense
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NC: Parent took and is hiding my passport to exert control. What am I looking at legally? I’m a 24F who is recently disabled. My parents have full control over my disability payments and have made it a fight to get any of my money. They’re also using my EBT card unauthorized. I’m living with them for now but have been offered a different place to stay with a friend. What am I looking at legally interns of getting control over my passport and disability money?
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https://disabilityrightsnc.org/ https://www.ssa.gov/payee/bene.htm
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You can report your passport as lost or stolen to the US State Department and order a replacement.
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Bouncers took my real ID and escorted me out of the bar My friend is 22 and has a vertical Iowa ID. In Iowa, your vertical ID does not expire at age 21 like some other states. She is in Illinois right now. Will calling the police help? What should she do?
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I'd call.
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Nal, but Call the nonemergency line for the police. In most places, typically the establishment has a time frame where they have to legally turn in what they believe to be a Fake ID over to the police. It might just be easier to go back and request a manager, though. Typically the doorman knows enough basic law to know if an ID is fake or not. This bars doorman did not, I'm guessing his manager will.
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Bouncers took my real ID and escorted me out of the bar My friend is 22 and has a vertical Iowa ID. In Iowa, your vertical ID does not expire at age 21 like some other states. She is in Illinois right now. Will calling the police help? What should she do?
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I'd call.
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Call the non-emergency line and have the police come and help her retrieve it. They can verify it's a real ID and regardless of whether it's real or not, the bar has no legal right to hold onto her ID. I had this happen to me in WA state and the cops were able to get my ID back for me and verify it was real, though the doorman did insist I called "fake cops" till the manager came out and was like wtf those aren't fake cops give them the ID.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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Next time a bouncer takes it pull up the Oregon DOL websiteon your phone and do a license look up using the number on the card. It will show that status of your ID.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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You can always file a police report. You can use the bouncers name. You can always get a copy of that report and mail it to the establishments owner. You can also put a freeze on your credit report and cite that police report. The owners won’t like it, but you’re free to do it.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Given that they had your ID overnight, you may want to consider freezing your credit, just to be safe.
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Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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The next time someone takes your ID and won't return it, call the police. A brief, polite "hi, a bouncer took my ID and won't return it" will usually get an officer to come around reasonably promptly to sort things out. People who have fake IDs generally aren't willing to call the cops on themselves, as well, so calling may be all it takes to convince an otherwise-pigheaded bouncer to stop playing games.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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I can tell you that in Kansas it would be criminal deprivation of property. only a duly appointed and certified law enforcement officer can take your ID as part of their DUI investigation. ​ This seems to be theapplicable Washington state law. ​ I'd say you would have to talk to an attorney from here.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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Not a lawyer but I suspect the state liquor board or local District attorney’s offices accept written complaints (or other appropriate bureau). If their conduct was criminal the bureau/department can take further action. Arguably taking your real ID is theft, but I’m not sure if bars would have an extra defense
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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When I worked on a government installation, we were only able to confiscate expired ID'S, this bar can't pull your ID or drivers license off of suspicion. This doesn't sound right at all, and the fact the bouncer was showing your sensitive information (DOB, full name, and DL #) all information for the police to call over for dispatch to verify you as an individual is not only unprofessional, but places you in potential harm. Plus the carelessness of the owner keeping your ID in their pocket. I would report this to BBB and leaves reviews.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hht9kru
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Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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Wouldn't an OR license technically be property of the State of Oregon, issued to a specific individual for a specific set of purposes? Call the issuing state's Attorney General. Article IV of the federal Constitution pretty explicitly talks about how states can and should treat documents that come from other states.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hhtq8lh
| 1,635,051,406 | 1,635,049,576 | 3,299 | 33 |
Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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Contact the liquor control board of your state and file a complaint.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hhtishh
| 1,635,051,406 | 1,635,045,385 | 3,299 | 32 |
Contact the Washington State Liquor Control Board and file a complaint. Licensees are not allowed to confiscate IDs.
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Practical advice, if it happens again: request a replacement ID with the explanation that it was stolen.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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The next time someone takes your ID and won't return it, call the police. A brief, polite "hi, a bouncer took my ID and won't return it" will usually get an officer to come around reasonably promptly to sort things out. People who have fake IDs generally aren't willing to call the cops on themselves, as well, so calling may be all it takes to convince an otherwise-pigheaded bouncer to stop playing games.
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Next time a bouncer takes it pull up the Oregon DOL websiteon your phone and do a license look up using the number on the card. It will show that status of your ID.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Given that they had your ID overnight, you may want to consider freezing your credit, just to be safe.
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You can always file a police report. You can use the bouncers name. You can always get a copy of that report and mail it to the establishments owner. You can also put a freeze on your credit report and cite that police report. The owners won’t like it, but you’re free to do it.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hhrt070
| 1,635,046,863 | 1,635,016,355 | 1,295 | 630 |
You can always file a police report. You can use the bouncers name. You can always get a copy of that report and mail it to the establishments owner. You can also put a freeze on your credit report and cite that police report. The owners won’t like it, but you’re free to do it.
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The next time someone takes your ID and won't return it, call the police. A brief, polite "hi, a bouncer took my ID and won't return it" will usually get an officer to come around reasonably promptly to sort things out. People who have fake IDs generally aren't willing to call the cops on themselves, as well, so calling may be all it takes to convince an otherwise-pigheaded bouncer to stop playing games.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hht9kru
| 1,635,046,863 | 1,635,040,745 | 1,295 | 46 |
You can always file a police report. You can use the bouncers name. You can always get a copy of that report and mail it to the establishments owner. You can also put a freeze on your credit report and cite that police report. The owners won’t like it, but you’re free to do it.
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Wouldn't an OR license technically be property of the State of Oregon, issued to a specific individual for a specific set of purposes? Call the issuing state's Attorney General. Article IV of the federal Constitution pretty explicitly talks about how states can and should treat documents that come from other states.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hhtlho7
| 1,635,045,385 | 1,635,046,863 | 32 | 1,295 |
Practical advice, if it happens again: request a replacement ID with the explanation that it was stolen.
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You can always file a police report. You can use the bouncers name. You can always get a copy of that report and mail it to the establishments owner. You can also put a freeze on your credit report and cite that police report. The owners won’t like it, but you’re free to do it.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hht5h2u
| 1,635,016,355 | 1,635,038,777 | 630 | 1,186 |
The next time someone takes your ID and won't return it, call the police. A brief, polite "hi, a bouncer took my ID and won't return it" will usually get an officer to come around reasonably promptly to sort things out. People who have fake IDs generally aren't willing to call the cops on themselves, as well, so calling may be all it takes to convince an otherwise-pigheaded bouncer to stop playing games.
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Given that they had your ID overnight, you may want to consider freezing your credit, just to be safe.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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Not a lawyer but I suspect the state liquor board or local District attorney’s offices accept written complaints (or other appropriate bureau). If their conduct was criminal the bureau/department can take further action. Arguably taking your real ID is theft, but I’m not sure if bars would have an extra defense
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I can tell you that in Kansas it would be criminal deprivation of property. only a duly appointed and certified law enforcement officer can take your ID as part of their DUI investigation. ​ This seems to be theapplicable Washington state law. ​ I'd say you would have to talk to an attorney from here.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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I can tell you that in Kansas it would be criminal deprivation of property. only a duly appointed and certified law enforcement officer can take your ID as part of their DUI investigation. ​ This seems to be theapplicable Washington state law. ​ I'd say you would have to talk to an attorney from here.
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When I worked on a government installation, we were only able to confiscate expired ID'S, this bar can't pull your ID or drivers license off of suspicion. This doesn't sound right at all, and the fact the bouncer was showing your sensitive information (DOB, full name, and DL #) all information for the police to call over for dispatch to verify you as an individual is not only unprofessional, but places you in potential harm. Plus the carelessness of the owner keeping your ID in their pocket. I would report this to BBB and leaves reviews.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hhtqdn3
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Wouldn't an OR license technically be property of the State of Oregon, issued to a specific individual for a specific set of purposes? Call the issuing state's Attorney General. Article IV of the federal Constitution pretty explicitly talks about how states can and should treat documents that come from other states.
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I can tell you that in Kansas it would be criminal deprivation of property. only a duly appointed and certified law enforcement officer can take your ID as part of their DUI investigation. ​ This seems to be theapplicable Washington state law. ​ I'd say you would have to talk to an attorney from here.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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hhtqdn3
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Contact the liquor control board of your state and file a complaint.
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I can tell you that in Kansas it would be criminal deprivation of property. only a duly appointed and certified law enforcement officer can take your ID as part of their DUI investigation. ​ This seems to be theapplicable Washington state law. ​ I'd say you would have to talk to an attorney from here.
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Bouncer took my real ID saying it was fake. The bouncer also showed my ID to other people he thought had fake IDs. On Thursday night I went to a bar in Spokane Washington with some friends. The bouncer at the door took a look at my ID and then said it was fake. He then confiscated it. For reference I have an Oregon ID. I proceeded to argue with him and he said if I wanted it back I had to call the police. I called the police and after waiting an hour for a response they called my saying I had to return to the bar tomorrow and talk to management if I wanted to get my ID back. After I left the bar I was then told by two different people that the bouncer had been showing other people trying to get into the bar my ID. Apparently he was using it as proof that their IDs were also fake or something. I returned to the bar yesterday and talked to the bartender who said they had sent all the taken IDs to the state liquor board. After arguing with him I was able to talk to the owner of the bar. The owner asked for my name and after hearing it took my ID out of his pocket. He then said he believed it was fake and told me the only way I could prove it was real was by sending it to the state liquor board. After arguing with him more he gave it back to me but said if I ever try to go to the bar again they will take it. Ironically I have been to this bar in the past and they never thought it was fake. I also question whether he actually though it was fake given that he already had it in his pocket. I’m assuming that because he gave my ID back there isn’t really any crime being committed, I’m just curious what my rights are as a citizen when it comes to my ID being taken by a bar. I am also wondering if the bouncer violated any laws by showing my ID to other people at the bar.
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I can tell you that in Kansas it would be criminal deprivation of property. only a duly appointed and certified law enforcement officer can take your ID as part of their DUI investigation. ​ This seems to be theapplicable Washington state law. ​ I'd say you would have to talk to an attorney from here.
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Practical advice, if it happens again: request a replacement ID with the explanation that it was stolen.
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