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77kgv6
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I work at a pet store in Virginia. Not me but one of my coworkers got bit pretty bad by one of our big macaws. At the time it happened the managers did not inform her of workers compensation and told her "since you're married to a military dude go to the doctors on base". I was the one that informed her of workers compensation and that she needed to get her finger looked at. When she did all the managers were upset by it and were talking poorly of her in the back. And as a little side note all of the managers are related to the owner of the pet store and that is the only reason they are managers. They believed it was ridiculous that she filed for workers compensation. I heard their conversations in the back as they got together and poked fun at her and thinking of ways to get her fired or make her quit. This lasted several days. All though she's not the best employee she's super sweet and works hard but just isn't into birds. Is their behavior illegal? How could I report it. Also they are knowingly selling sick birds. Customers have brought in prof from their veterinarians that their bird died from this disease caused by a bad breeder. The owner has been made aware but they keep using the same bad breeder. How could I report them for this? This has got to be illegal right?
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dompk7r
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don0p19
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INAL but you should probably reformat this and repost. Your title is part of the post and I’m pretty sure that’s against a rule or something. It’s difficult to read.
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They should know that if she goes to a hospital on base and the injury appears to be work related, the military hospital will require her to file for workman's comp.
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77kgv6
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I work at a pet store in Virginia. Not me but one of my coworkers got bit pretty bad by one of our big macaws. At the time it happened the managers did not inform her of workers compensation and told her "since you're married to a military dude go to the doctors on base". I was the one that informed her of workers compensation and that she needed to get her finger looked at. When she did all the managers were upset by it and were talking poorly of her in the back. And as a little side note all of the managers are related to the owner of the pet store and that is the only reason they are managers. They believed it was ridiculous that she filed for workers compensation. I heard their conversations in the back as they got together and poked fun at her and thinking of ways to get her fired or make her quit. This lasted several days. All though she's not the best employee she's super sweet and works hard but just isn't into birds. Is their behavior illegal? How could I report it. Also they are knowingly selling sick birds. Customers have brought in prof from their veterinarians that their bird died from this disease caused by a bad breeder. The owner has been made aware but they keep using the same bad breeder. How could I report them for this? This has got to be illegal right?
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domsg2j
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domq8e2
| 1,508,500,848 | 1,508,496,229 | 54 | 48 |
have her file a claim directly. http://www.vwc.state.va.us/content/injured-workers
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> I heard their conversations in the back as they got together and poked fun at her and thinking of ways to get her fired or make her quit. Getting together to poke fun at someone or try to imagine ways to get them fired or make them quit makes these folks terrible human beings, but it is not against the law -- the right to free speech includes the right to say some terrible things. *Actually*, making someone quit might be harassment (depending on lots of details), and firing someone because of workman's comp claim might be illegal but since "she's not the best employee she's super sweet and works hard but just isn't into birds" there are lots of other legitimate grounds on which to fire her. > The owner has been made aware [that a particular breeder has provided sick birds in the past] but they keep using the same bad breeder. [...] This has got to be illegal right? Also not illegal. If your store's owner were aware that an individual bird was sick and sold it to a customer without informing them that might be some sort of fraud. But continuing to use a particular supplier who has provided bad merchandise in the past is not, in itself, illegal. **Important disclaimer**: I am not a lawyer in your state, I am not your lawyer, I have just some dude on the internet expressing my opinions about what the law is. So take that into advisement, and feel free to consult other sources if you want a more reliable answer.
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77kgv6
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legaladvice_train
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I work at a pet store in Virginia. Not me but one of my coworkers got bit pretty bad by one of our big macaws. At the time it happened the managers did not inform her of workers compensation and told her "since you're married to a military dude go to the doctors on base". I was the one that informed her of workers compensation and that she needed to get her finger looked at. When she did all the managers were upset by it and were talking poorly of her in the back. And as a little side note all of the managers are related to the owner of the pet store and that is the only reason they are managers. They believed it was ridiculous that she filed for workers compensation. I heard their conversations in the back as they got together and poked fun at her and thinking of ways to get her fired or make her quit. This lasted several days. All though she's not the best employee she's super sweet and works hard but just isn't into birds. Is their behavior illegal? How could I report it. Also they are knowingly selling sick birds. Customers have brought in prof from their veterinarians that their bird died from this disease caused by a bad breeder. The owner has been made aware but they keep using the same bad breeder. How could I report them for this? This has got to be illegal right?
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domsg2j
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dompk7r
| 1,508,500,848 | 1,508,494,511 | 54 | 3 |
have her file a claim directly. http://www.vwc.state.va.us/content/injured-workers
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INAL but you should probably reformat this and repost. Your title is part of the post and I’m pretty sure that’s against a rule or something. It’s difficult to read.
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77kgv6
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legaladvice_train
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I work at a pet store in Virginia. Not me but one of my coworkers got bit pretty bad by one of our big macaws. At the time it happened the managers did not inform her of workers compensation and told her "since you're married to a military dude go to the doctors on base". I was the one that informed her of workers compensation and that she needed to get her finger looked at. When she did all the managers were upset by it and were talking poorly of her in the back. And as a little side note all of the managers are related to the owner of the pet store and that is the only reason they are managers. They believed it was ridiculous that she filed for workers compensation. I heard their conversations in the back as they got together and poked fun at her and thinking of ways to get her fired or make her quit. This lasted several days. All though she's not the best employee she's super sweet and works hard but just isn't into birds. Is their behavior illegal? How could I report it. Also they are knowingly selling sick birds. Customers have brought in prof from their veterinarians that their bird died from this disease caused by a bad breeder. The owner has been made aware but they keep using the same bad breeder. How could I report them for this? This has got to be illegal right?
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dompk7r
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domq8e2
| 1,508,494,511 | 1,508,496,229 | 3 | 48 |
INAL but you should probably reformat this and repost. Your title is part of the post and I’m pretty sure that’s against a rule or something. It’s difficult to read.
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> I heard their conversations in the back as they got together and poked fun at her and thinking of ways to get her fired or make her quit. Getting together to poke fun at someone or try to imagine ways to get them fired or make them quit makes these folks terrible human beings, but it is not against the law -- the right to free speech includes the right to say some terrible things. *Actually*, making someone quit might be harassment (depending on lots of details), and firing someone because of workman's comp claim might be illegal but since "she's not the best employee she's super sweet and works hard but just isn't into birds" there are lots of other legitimate grounds on which to fire her. > The owner has been made aware [that a particular breeder has provided sick birds in the past] but they keep using the same bad breeder. [...] This has got to be illegal right? Also not illegal. If your store's owner were aware that an individual bird was sick and sold it to a customer without informing them that might be some sort of fraud. But continuing to use a particular supplier who has provided bad merchandise in the past is not, in itself, illegal. **Important disclaimer**: I am not a lawyer in your state, I am not your lawyer, I have just some dude on the internet expressing my opinions about what the law is. So take that into advisement, and feel free to consult other sources if you want a more reliable answer.
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twhs61
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3fd97h
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i3fg66d
| 1,649,118,233 | 1,649,119,488 | 75 | 1,632 |
It's not clear that is illegal. Do you have proof he said what you are claiming he said?
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>building pew pews [...] notified the ATF I think that means you know, or think you know, that Tom was assembling firearms or destructive devices illegally. >the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job It is legal for an employer to demote an employee because they believe that employee is lying about a violent threat to workplace safety and specific other employees. It is also wildly foolish. It could expose that manager, the corporation, or other surviving executives to liability in the event that Tom does attack his co-workers. But making a report to the police or ATF is very probably not the sort of workplace-related official agency that would make retaliation unlawful. OSHA, Dept. of Labor, Dept. of Transportation, Dept. of Ecology... all of those. But probably not ATF. >recorded the entire meeting/demotion. That is not by itself unlawful in Georgia, so it's good evidence if there is litigation later. If you are a union member, the union may have some advice or representation for you. Or you can consult with an employment attorney. But as nutty as "demote the guy warning us about a threat of a murderous rampage" sounds, it might not be illegal.
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twhs61
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3fmjfx
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i3fd97h
| 1,649,122,263 | 1,649,118,233 | 747 | 75 |
OP if your employer has no interest in taking your threat seriously, or at least beginning an investigation under the assumption it may be true, then i strongly urge you to stop physically appearing at work until this is resolved. Your physical safety needs to be the number one priority here.
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It's not clear that is illegal. Do you have proof he said what you are claiming he said?
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3fwzg7
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i3fd97h
| 1,649,126,912 | 1,649,118,233 | 150 | 75 |
OP I would recommend looking for an employment lawyer in Savannah. If this is where I think it is, I don’t know how many helpful local resources you will find.
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It's not clear that is illegal. Do you have proof he said what you are claiming he said?
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twhs61
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3g9t3c
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i3gc78c
| 1,649,133,566 | 1,649,135,023 | 41 | 52 |
Do Tom a favor and refer him to a veteran’s crisis assistance group before 💩 really goes sideways. There are groups where you can anonymously give them tom’s contact info and they can reach out with resources to maybe avoid a tragedy and improve Tom’s mental health and quality of life. All it takes is a Google and a phone call to possibly save several lives (one of which may be your own).
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Sounds like he has motive, means and opportunity. You should call the police
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twhs61
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gc78c
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i3gbo8p
| 1,649,135,023 | 1,649,134,695 | 52 | 21 |
Sounds like he has motive, means and opportunity. You should call the police
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You should probably forward all relevant information to local law enforcement agencies at the city state and federal levels. Whatever happens happens but at least you try to inform the authorities and those groups are the ones best cable of protecting and stopping a mass shooting event.
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gc78c
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i3gbkhe
| 1,649,135,023 | 1,649,134,631 | 52 | 11 |
Sounds like he has motive, means and opportunity. You should call the police
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Sad, maybe ask if there is a transfer to another facility if possible. You can't always win the war but if you could win a battle on this one buddy or ma'am please do so. Get yourself out of that facility near the human resources department is extremely lacking when it comes to modern day training that is often giving and is often required to be given to all employees and not just management or HR employees. Maybe it's a good time to go on leave?
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gb482
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i3gc78c
| 1,649,134,352 | 1,649,135,023 | 11 | 52 |
I havent seen anyone say this, and I absolutely have no clue if it's a viable option. But you could try to inform the VA about the incident. If he has PTSD then he's seeing a VA psych. Might be worth looking into
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Sounds like he has motive, means and opportunity. You should call the police
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gc78c
| 1,649,133,743 | 1,649,135,023 | 12 | 52 |
They’ll regret demoting you if Tom decides to start a mass shooting
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Sounds like he has motive, means and opportunity. You should call the police
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twhs61
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gc78c
| 1,649,134,735 | 1,649,135,023 | 8 | 52 |
Ahh, isn't this a case for the FBI, not just ATF? Threats were made and retaliation.
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Sounds like he has motive, means and opportunity. You should call the police
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twhs61
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gbo8p
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i3gn4af
| 1,649,134,695 | 1,649,142,855 | 21 | 23 |
You should probably forward all relevant information to local law enforcement agencies at the city state and federal levels. Whatever happens happens but at least you try to inform the authorities and those groups are the ones best cable of protecting and stopping a mass shooting event.
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just FYI it's not necessarily illegal to build a firearm and sell it to someone. it's only an illegal gun sale if it's going to someone in a different state or someone who isn't legally allowed to possess said gun, or if it's being built specifically to be sold to someone. It sounds like it might be the latter from what you said, but also possibly fairly fact-dependent (ie they're buying the parts and he's helping them put it together). "build" also has a very specific meaning, essentially that's creating the receiver of the gun, which is the part of the gun that's legally the 'gun' (everything else, the stock, barrel, trigger etc, are more like gun accessories). If a finished receiver was bought, then he's just assembling the gun parts, not creating a new gun, as that finished received already has a serial number etc.
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
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I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gbkhe
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i3gn4af
| 1,649,134,631 | 1,649,142,855 | 11 | 23 |
Sad, maybe ask if there is a transfer to another facility if possible. You can't always win the war but if you could win a battle on this one buddy or ma'am please do so. Get yourself out of that facility near the human resources department is extremely lacking when it comes to modern day training that is often giving and is often required to be given to all employees and not just management or HR employees. Maybe it's a good time to go on leave?
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just FYI it's not necessarily illegal to build a firearm and sell it to someone. it's only an illegal gun sale if it's going to someone in a different state or someone who isn't legally allowed to possess said gun, or if it's being built specifically to be sold to someone. It sounds like it might be the latter from what you said, but also possibly fairly fact-dependent (ie they're buying the parts and he's helping them put it together). "build" also has a very specific meaning, essentially that's creating the receiver of the gun, which is the part of the gun that's legally the 'gun' (everything else, the stock, barrel, trigger etc, are more like gun accessories). If a finished receiver was bought, then he's just assembling the gun parts, not creating a new gun, as that finished received already has a serial number etc.
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gn4af
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i3gb482
| 1,649,142,855 | 1,649,134,352 | 23 | 11 |
just FYI it's not necessarily illegal to build a firearm and sell it to someone. it's only an illegal gun sale if it's going to someone in a different state or someone who isn't legally allowed to possess said gun, or if it's being built specifically to be sold to someone. It sounds like it might be the latter from what you said, but also possibly fairly fact-dependent (ie they're buying the parts and he's helping them put it together). "build" also has a very specific meaning, essentially that's creating the receiver of the gun, which is the part of the gun that's legally the 'gun' (everything else, the stock, barrel, trigger etc, are more like gun accessories). If a finished receiver was bought, then he's just assembling the gun parts, not creating a new gun, as that finished received already has a serial number etc.
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I havent seen anyone say this, and I absolutely have no clue if it's a viable option. But you could try to inform the VA about the incident. If he has PTSD then he's seeing a VA psych. Might be worth looking into
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gn4af
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i3ga3pk
| 1,649,142,855 | 1,649,133,743 | 23 | 12 |
just FYI it's not necessarily illegal to build a firearm and sell it to someone. it's only an illegal gun sale if it's going to someone in a different state or someone who isn't legally allowed to possess said gun, or if it's being built specifically to be sold to someone. It sounds like it might be the latter from what you said, but also possibly fairly fact-dependent (ie they're buying the parts and he's helping them put it together). "build" also has a very specific meaning, essentially that's creating the receiver of the gun, which is the part of the gun that's legally the 'gun' (everything else, the stock, barrel, trigger etc, are more like gun accessories). If a finished receiver was bought, then he's just assembling the gun parts, not creating a new gun, as that finished received already has a serial number etc.
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They’ll regret demoting you if Tom decides to start a mass shooting
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gmypn
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i3gn4af
| 1,649,142,731 | 1,649,142,855 | 9 | 23 |
Call the GBI. 404-244-2600
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just FYI it's not necessarily illegal to build a firearm and sell it to someone. it's only an illegal gun sale if it's going to someone in a different state or someone who isn't legally allowed to possess said gun, or if it's being built specifically to be sold to someone. It sounds like it might be the latter from what you said, but also possibly fairly fact-dependent (ie they're buying the parts and he's helping them put it together). "build" also has a very specific meaning, essentially that's creating the receiver of the gun, which is the part of the gun that's legally the 'gun' (everything else, the stock, barrel, trigger etc, are more like gun accessories). If a finished receiver was bought, then he's just assembling the gun parts, not creating a new gun, as that finished received already has a serial number etc.
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gn4af
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i3gbqjb
| 1,649,142,855 | 1,649,134,735 | 23 | 8 |
just FYI it's not necessarily illegal to build a firearm and sell it to someone. it's only an illegal gun sale if it's going to someone in a different state or someone who isn't legally allowed to possess said gun, or if it's being built specifically to be sold to someone. It sounds like it might be the latter from what you said, but also possibly fairly fact-dependent (ie they're buying the parts and he's helping them put it together). "build" also has a very specific meaning, essentially that's creating the receiver of the gun, which is the part of the gun that's legally the 'gun' (everything else, the stock, barrel, trigger etc, are more like gun accessories). If a finished receiver was bought, then he's just assembling the gun parts, not creating a new gun, as that finished received already has a serial number etc.
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Ahh, isn't this a case for the FBI, not just ATF? Threats were made and retaliation.
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gbo8p
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i3gbkhe
| 1,649,134,695 | 1,649,134,631 | 21 | 11 |
You should probably forward all relevant information to local law enforcement agencies at the city state and federal levels. Whatever happens happens but at least you try to inform the authorities and those groups are the ones best cable of protecting and stopping a mass shooting event.
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Sad, maybe ask if there is a transfer to another facility if possible. You can't always win the war but if you could win a battle on this one buddy or ma'am please do so. Get yourself out of that facility near the human resources department is extremely lacking when it comes to modern day training that is often giving and is often required to be given to all employees and not just management or HR employees. Maybe it's a good time to go on leave?
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gb482
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i3gbo8p
| 1,649,134,352 | 1,649,134,695 | 11 | 21 |
I havent seen anyone say this, and I absolutely have no clue if it's a viable option. But you could try to inform the VA about the incident. If he has PTSD then he's seeing a VA psych. Might be worth looking into
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You should probably forward all relevant information to local law enforcement agencies at the city state and federal levels. Whatever happens happens but at least you try to inform the authorities and those groups are the ones best cable of protecting and stopping a mass shooting event.
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gbo8p
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i3ga3pk
| 1,649,134,695 | 1,649,133,743 | 21 | 12 |
You should probably forward all relevant information to local law enforcement agencies at the city state and federal levels. Whatever happens happens but at least you try to inform the authorities and those groups are the ones best cable of protecting and stopping a mass shooting event.
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They’ll regret demoting you if Tom decides to start a mass shooting
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twhs61
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was demoted after informing HR my coworker was threatening to bring in his gun and shoot managment Hi everyone I was advised to up date my post because I used the term (pew pew instead of hun) I am 34m and I worked in a chicken plant. The town I’m from in Georgia is known as the chicken capital of the world. I work as a yard driver. Basically it’s a small semi type truck for moving trailers in and out of the shipping dock doors. Ok enough of a background my coworker let’s call him Tom, is a veteran, and has mental health issues from his time over seas. He is a gun fanatic, I’m pro 2A. But I watched him have a complete meltdown because he received a write up for verbally berated a truck driver. He even threatened to shoot the lady. After his write up he came outside and started threatening the management that had written him up said he’d grab the gun out of his truck and walk in and shoot them in their smug ass faces. I tried calming him down and he looked me in the face and said don’t make me shoot you too. This happened in the middle of the night so HR wasn’t in. So the next morning I called HR and told them what I heard and everything that was going on. I found out that Tom was building pew pews for the same managers that he was threatening to kill. Well because I informed HR I was put out of work for a week and then I was called into the management office the plant manager basically called me a liar and I was being demoted to a lower paying job because I felt it was a safety concern and someone needed to know. I notified the ATF of the illegal gun sales and recorded the entire meeting/demotion. How do I hold them responsible for illegal retaliation. Any advice would be appreciated
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i3gmypn
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i3gbqjb
| 1,649,142,731 | 1,649,134,735 | 9 | 8 |
Call the GBI. 404-244-2600
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Ahh, isn't this a case for the FBI, not just ATF? Threats were made and retaliation.
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y4lvfd
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My HOA filed a property insurance claim for a hurricane that happened 4 years ago and got $3mil. Now they are trying to bail on fixing hurricane damage on my condo because “you bought the unit with the drywall that way.” Some context: I live in NC. I bought this condo in a 14 unit building in 2022 through a normal conventional loan. They had people in here late 2021, shortly after I moved in, documenting damage from a hurricane that happened in 2018 to use for their claim (taking 3D pictures of each room, checking windows, running video scopes in the walls to check for mold, wall moisture, moisture barrier, etc.) They got about $3mil from the insurance claim and started by replacing roofs, storm drains, mail boxes, painting, and external things. Then they sent an email out to send them any remaining internal repairs that still need done from the hurricane. My unit had water in it in 2018. They sent someone in to cut the bottom 18in of dry wall out, dry out the place, and replace the that drywall. Whoever they had do it, just free handed the corners with no bead and did a terrible sloppy putty job so you can see the seam on every wall and the corners look like play dough. I submitted this for repair. They sent a guy to quote the job. Then the sent the HOA board members in to look at the unit. The two older ladies from the board said that to do it right, there would be a lot of work and repainting and that the job is bigger than they want to do. They even asked if my insurance would paint so they didn’t have to. They also learned at that time that I didn’t live in the unit during the storm. When I followed up a few days later they said “unfortunately, it looks like we don’t have to do your repairs after talking to our lawyers. Since you bought the condo as is, you took ownership of the previous poorly done repairs.” So they essentially are saying we only have to spend this money to fix your unit if you owned since 2018 and we’re here during the hurricane. Mind you several of the units have changed hands in 4 hrs. I don’t understand how me purchasing the unit would absolve the HOA from their responsibilities. I didn’t sign anything assuming financial responsibility for the drywall repairs. I talked to my realtor and the closing/title lawyer and they said they don’t think that makes sense but neither does litigation work. The HOA isn’t a party to the home purchase, that’s a contract between buyer and seller. They used my unit to inflate their insurance claim and are not trying to use money from the claim to make adequate repairs, which I’ve read could be property insurance fraud. I sent them an email back explaining that other lawyers and the realtor do not agree, and they sent me an email telling me they would have someone else do the work. Then two days later, they want their attorney to talk to mine before proceeding. I don’t really want to incur lawyer fees because they don’t want to do the right thing and they want to pocket the money, but I would love to have the drywall fixed. Is what they are doing wrong here? Am I wrong that the repairs should be done if they claimed the damage to get some money? Any help is appreciated.
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isexynw
| 1,665,839,727 | 1,665,841,103 | 16 | 43 |
you already have the answer. either the repairs are costly enough that you need to speak to an attorney or they aren't. not much we can really do to help you from here. you can try to go through your state bar's website to find someone who will consult for cheap or free.
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I'll second that you are likely SOL if the repairs weren't addressed with the Seller or HOA up front. Now, that said, if the HOA made an insurance claim on the damages to your apartment, insurance paid out for said damages, and the HOA is now stating the damages aren't valid under their policy, it may be worth having the discussion with your attorney and theirs. It may be in their best interest to do the repairs and make it go away, rather than acknowledge they made a false insurance claim and deal with the insurance company - because chances are they did this with other units also.
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y4lvfd
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legaladvice_train
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My HOA filed a property insurance claim for a hurricane that happened 4 years ago and got $3mil. Now they are trying to bail on fixing hurricane damage on my condo because “you bought the unit with the drywall that way.” Some context: I live in NC. I bought this condo in a 14 unit building in 2022 through a normal conventional loan. They had people in here late 2021, shortly after I moved in, documenting damage from a hurricane that happened in 2018 to use for their claim (taking 3D pictures of each room, checking windows, running video scopes in the walls to check for mold, wall moisture, moisture barrier, etc.) They got about $3mil from the insurance claim and started by replacing roofs, storm drains, mail boxes, painting, and external things. Then they sent an email out to send them any remaining internal repairs that still need done from the hurricane. My unit had water in it in 2018. They sent someone in to cut the bottom 18in of dry wall out, dry out the place, and replace the that drywall. Whoever they had do it, just free handed the corners with no bead and did a terrible sloppy putty job so you can see the seam on every wall and the corners look like play dough. I submitted this for repair. They sent a guy to quote the job. Then the sent the HOA board members in to look at the unit. The two older ladies from the board said that to do it right, there would be a lot of work and repainting and that the job is bigger than they want to do. They even asked if my insurance would paint so they didn’t have to. They also learned at that time that I didn’t live in the unit during the storm. When I followed up a few days later they said “unfortunately, it looks like we don’t have to do your repairs after talking to our lawyers. Since you bought the condo as is, you took ownership of the previous poorly done repairs.” So they essentially are saying we only have to spend this money to fix your unit if you owned since 2018 and we’re here during the hurricane. Mind you several of the units have changed hands in 4 hrs. I don’t understand how me purchasing the unit would absolve the HOA from their responsibilities. I didn’t sign anything assuming financial responsibility for the drywall repairs. I talked to my realtor and the closing/title lawyer and they said they don’t think that makes sense but neither does litigation work. The HOA isn’t a party to the home purchase, that’s a contract between buyer and seller. They used my unit to inflate their insurance claim and are not trying to use money from the claim to make adequate repairs, which I’ve read could be property insurance fraud. I sent them an email back explaining that other lawyers and the realtor do not agree, and they sent me an email telling me they would have someone else do the work. Then two days later, they want their attorney to talk to mine before proceeding. I don’t really want to incur lawyer fees because they don’t want to do the right thing and they want to pocket the money, but I would love to have the drywall fixed. Is what they are doing wrong here? Am I wrong that the repairs should be done if they claimed the damage to get some money? Any help is appreciated.
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isey2ky
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isevckt
| 1,665,841,157 | 1,665,839,727 | 23 | 16 |
Although this seems complicated, it's really not. Your HOA is correct in saying, at least initially, that you are on the hook for the repairs. You have to follow the trail of negligence and work backwards. Did your realtor/their realtor disclose that there had been a hurricane previously? Did you have the property inspected before purchasing? Did you wave contingencies? Depending on the answer to these questions it moves to the contractor. If the contractor conducted work, they also needed to purchase a permit for this work which would then need to have been inspected. Have you looked at the permits/licenses for your property? If there are any open or missing permits -- its your realtor. If there IS a permit and its closed, it falls on the contractor. Most contractors work comes with a warranty for labor/mechanical work for XX years. My company has one for the lifetime of the product we install, which although is 30 years, the manufacturer usually warranties it for up to 50! In any event, if the work was done and it passed inspection but was shoddy......well...its too early in the morning for me to type that answer...you really need to speak to an attorney that specializes in real estate.
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you already have the answer. either the repairs are costly enough that you need to speak to an attorney or they aren't. not much we can really do to help you from here. you can try to go through your state bar's website to find someone who will consult for cheap or free.
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y4lvfd
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My HOA filed a property insurance claim for a hurricane that happened 4 years ago and got $3mil. Now they are trying to bail on fixing hurricane damage on my condo because “you bought the unit with the drywall that way.” Some context: I live in NC. I bought this condo in a 14 unit building in 2022 through a normal conventional loan. They had people in here late 2021, shortly after I moved in, documenting damage from a hurricane that happened in 2018 to use for their claim (taking 3D pictures of each room, checking windows, running video scopes in the walls to check for mold, wall moisture, moisture barrier, etc.) They got about $3mil from the insurance claim and started by replacing roofs, storm drains, mail boxes, painting, and external things. Then they sent an email out to send them any remaining internal repairs that still need done from the hurricane. My unit had water in it in 2018. They sent someone in to cut the bottom 18in of dry wall out, dry out the place, and replace the that drywall. Whoever they had do it, just free handed the corners with no bead and did a terrible sloppy putty job so you can see the seam on every wall and the corners look like play dough. I submitted this for repair. They sent a guy to quote the job. Then the sent the HOA board members in to look at the unit. The two older ladies from the board said that to do it right, there would be a lot of work and repainting and that the job is bigger than they want to do. They even asked if my insurance would paint so they didn’t have to. They also learned at that time that I didn’t live in the unit during the storm. When I followed up a few days later they said “unfortunately, it looks like we don’t have to do your repairs after talking to our lawyers. Since you bought the condo as is, you took ownership of the previous poorly done repairs.” So they essentially are saying we only have to spend this money to fix your unit if you owned since 2018 and we’re here during the hurricane. Mind you several of the units have changed hands in 4 hrs. I don’t understand how me purchasing the unit would absolve the HOA from their responsibilities. I didn’t sign anything assuming financial responsibility for the drywall repairs. I talked to my realtor and the closing/title lawyer and they said they don’t think that makes sense but neither does litigation work. The HOA isn’t a party to the home purchase, that’s a contract between buyer and seller. They used my unit to inflate their insurance claim and are not trying to use money from the claim to make adequate repairs, which I’ve read could be property insurance fraud. I sent them an email back explaining that other lawyers and the realtor do not agree, and they sent me an email telling me they would have someone else do the work. Then two days later, they want their attorney to talk to mine before proceeding. I don’t really want to incur lawyer fees because they don’t want to do the right thing and they want to pocket the money, but I would love to have the drywall fixed. Is what they are doing wrong here? Am I wrong that the repairs should be done if they claimed the damage to get some money? Any help is appreciated.
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Generally, HOAs are only responsible for what happens on the exterior of a building or damage that occurs to common areas (eg, hallways, etc.). Damage that occurs within a specific unit is the responsibility of the homeowner and their insurance. In the event that damage is the result of another owner (eg, an overflowing toilet that damages your unit) that would need to be resolved between the owners and their insurance questions. The HOA board is likely correct that the issue of shoddy workmanship would have been something you accepted responsibility for at the time of purchase (whether you were informed of it or not). The e-mail regarding requests for information re: internal damage likely referred to damage to common areas that they are unaware of v. damage to private property. Unless you are able to prove that 1) the insurance claim was definitely inflated as re: to your unit or 2) the HOA was involved in private property repairs related to the event, the HOA is likely not guilty of insurance fraud or responsible for repairs to the interior of your unit. If in NC the previous owners had a duty to inform you of the defect (if they were aware of the fact) then you might have a course of action against them for failure to do so.
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What about the insurance company who paid the claim? They are a party to all this too. I recently had an insurance claim and the adjuster explained to me that they come up with their best effort $ amount before demo is done. After demo, if further damage is found, I could reopen the claim to request addl funds. Is this like that? Has the 3mil been completely spent?
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My HOA filed a property insurance claim for a hurricane that happened 4 years ago and got $3mil. Now they are trying to bail on fixing hurricane damage on my condo because “you bought the unit with the drywall that way.” Some context: I live in NC. I bought this condo in a 14 unit building in 2022 through a normal conventional loan. They had people in here late 2021, shortly after I moved in, documenting damage from a hurricane that happened in 2018 to use for their claim (taking 3D pictures of each room, checking windows, running video scopes in the walls to check for mold, wall moisture, moisture barrier, etc.) They got about $3mil from the insurance claim and started by replacing roofs, storm drains, mail boxes, painting, and external things. Then they sent an email out to send them any remaining internal repairs that still need done from the hurricane. My unit had water in it in 2018. They sent someone in to cut the bottom 18in of dry wall out, dry out the place, and replace the that drywall. Whoever they had do it, just free handed the corners with no bead and did a terrible sloppy putty job so you can see the seam on every wall and the corners look like play dough. I submitted this for repair. They sent a guy to quote the job. Then the sent the HOA board members in to look at the unit. The two older ladies from the board said that to do it right, there would be a lot of work and repainting and that the job is bigger than they want to do. They even asked if my insurance would paint so they didn’t have to. They also learned at that time that I didn’t live in the unit during the storm. When I followed up a few days later they said “unfortunately, it looks like we don’t have to do your repairs after talking to our lawyers. Since you bought the condo as is, you took ownership of the previous poorly done repairs.” So they essentially are saying we only have to spend this money to fix your unit if you owned since 2018 and we’re here during the hurricane. Mind you several of the units have changed hands in 4 hrs. I don’t understand how me purchasing the unit would absolve the HOA from their responsibilities. I didn’t sign anything assuming financial responsibility for the drywall repairs. I talked to my realtor and the closing/title lawyer and they said they don’t think that makes sense but neither does litigation work. The HOA isn’t a party to the home purchase, that’s a contract between buyer and seller. They used my unit to inflate their insurance claim and are not trying to use money from the claim to make adequate repairs, which I’ve read could be property insurance fraud. I sent them an email back explaining that other lawyers and the realtor do not agree, and they sent me an email telling me they would have someone else do the work. Then two days later, they want their attorney to talk to mine before proceeding. I don’t really want to incur lawyer fees because they don’t want to do the right thing and they want to pocket the money, but I would love to have the drywall fixed. Is what they are doing wrong here? Am I wrong that the repairs should be done if they claimed the damage to get some money? Any help is appreciated.
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Generally, HOAs are only responsible for what happens on the exterior of a building or damage that occurs to common areas (eg, hallways, etc.). Damage that occurs within a specific unit is the responsibility of the homeowner and their insurance. In the event that damage is the result of another owner (eg, an overflowing toilet that damages your unit) that would need to be resolved between the owners and their insurance questions. The HOA board is likely correct that the issue of shoddy workmanship would have been something you accepted responsibility for at the time of purchase (whether you were informed of it or not). The e-mail regarding requests for information re: internal damage likely referred to damage to common areas that they are unaware of v. damage to private property. Unless you are able to prove that 1) the insurance claim was definitely inflated as re: to your unit or 2) the HOA was involved in private property repairs related to the event, the HOA is likely not guilty of insurance fraud or responsible for repairs to the interior of your unit. If in NC the previous owners had a duty to inform you of the defect (if they were aware of the fact) then you might have a course of action against them for failure to do so.
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Could you submit a claim with the HOAs insurance company? Send them the quote from the contractor and then let them know that they used your unit to inflate their payout but are refusing to do the repairs. If other units were sold/bought in the 4 years since the hurricane happened, they might be using this line on a lot of other people in the building and pocketing a crap ton of cash.. I'm Not a lawyer but just a thought. Don't know if it's viable but maybe an option.
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My company promised a bonus at a specific event, I asked for it to be in writing and this is what happened.. The VP of HR sent an email to me, promising the bonus would be paid to me after this specific event was completed. The catch is, she emailed it to me through her gmail account and not her company account, and she mentioned it was because the servers were down. My questions, 1) does an email count it as “being in writing” and guarantees me I will receive this bonus? 2) does her sending this deal through her personal email account completely invalidate it? Thanks all!
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Is the "specific event" something like "buy a bunch of iTunes gift cards and give the codes to me" or "install this sketchy-looking .exe"?
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Are you sure this was actually your VP of HR that contacted you? This is bizarre. This sounds like spoofing. What was the actual "event"?
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My company promised a bonus at a specific event, I asked for it to be in writing and this is what happened.. The VP of HR sent an email to me, promising the bonus would be paid to me after this specific event was completed. The catch is, she emailed it to me through her gmail account and not her company account, and she mentioned it was because the servers were down. My questions, 1) does an email count it as “being in writing” and guarantees me I will receive this bonus? 2) does her sending this deal through her personal email account completely invalidate it? Thanks all!
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If you received an email on your work account, smells like the servers weren't down.
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FYI, if you used company funds to buy the gift cards, you might want to start calling around for lawyers.
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My company promised a bonus at a specific event, I asked for it to be in writing and this is what happened.. The VP of HR sent an email to me, promising the bonus would be paid to me after this specific event was completed. The catch is, she emailed it to me through her gmail account and not her company account, and she mentioned it was because the servers were down. My questions, 1) does an email count it as “being in writing” and guarantees me I will receive this bonus? 2) does her sending this deal through her personal email account completely invalidate it? Thanks all!
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You need that from the HR VPs work email address. Also make sure you print it out to keep a copy. Hr can make emails dissappear off the server. Updated to clean up fast mobile typing.
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If you received an email on your work account, smells like the servers weren't down.
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My company promised a bonus at a specific event, I asked for it to be in writing and this is what happened.. The VP of HR sent an email to me, promising the bonus would be paid to me after this specific event was completed. The catch is, she emailed it to me through her gmail account and not her company account, and she mentioned it was because the servers were down. My questions, 1) does an email count it as “being in writing” and guarantees me I will receive this bonus? 2) does her sending this deal through her personal email account completely invalidate it? Thanks all!
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j12bzna
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You need that from the HR VPs work email address. Also make sure you print it out to keep a copy. Hr can make emails dissappear off the server. Updated to clean up fast mobile typing.
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FYI, if you used company funds to buy the gift cards, you might want to start calling around for lawyers.
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My company promised a bonus at a specific event, I asked for it to be in writing and this is what happened.. The VP of HR sent an email to me, promising the bonus would be paid to me after this specific event was completed. The catch is, she emailed it to me through her gmail account and not her company account, and she mentioned it was because the servers were down. My questions, 1) does an email count it as “being in writing” and guarantees me I will receive this bonus? 2) does her sending this deal through her personal email account completely invalidate it? Thanks all!
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If this “event” is part of your regular duties, then a promise of a bonus is not enforceable as there is no consideration (this of course assumes that there isn’t a bonus schedule drawn up in your employment agreement).
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/n00o17/rscams\_common\_scam\_master\_post/ It sounds to me like a scam of some sort.
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I allowed my 17 year old sister to move in with me (CT to NY), Dad is threatening me with kidnapping charges [NY] Sorry for the huge post. Last year (April 2017), my sister (then 17 and living in CT with our mother) dropped out of high school and came to live with me. I live in NY State, Albany area. My mother is disabled by mental illness and in her condition was neglecting my sister and my adult brother that lived there (disabled w/ autism) was physically abusive towards both of them. According to the custody agreement in my mother and father's divorce (in 2006) it was Dad that was supposed to be the custodial parent and my Mom was supposed to be paying him child support and getting weekend visitation. My sister lived with Dad and his then-girlfriend (now wife) for about 3 years and then sent her to live with Mom. However, Mom never got the support order changed but worked out an agreement with Dad: she got to keep the SSI money that was my sister's benefit instead of it being forwarded to Dad for support and he kept her on his health insurance. When my sister came to live with me last year, Mom told me she would send the benefit money on to me for taking care of my sister. She didn't. Dad kept her on his health insurance but refused to pay anything towards her online high school course when asked saying he didn't have any money to spare. So, I'm paying it because she needs a high school education and it's only $50/month. This year my sister turned 18 and is almost finished her online high courses,and has started looking for a job but is considering trade school (so proud of her!) She will be staying with me until she can afford to move out; my wife and I have agreed to that and have no problem with that. In NY, child support can be received up to age 21. So, I filed a petition for child support for Mom and for Dad through NY State and the county court here sent out notices to them to appear for a court date. Dad received his yesterday and called me up, asked me why I was doing this to him, told me I need to drop the case because it's going to ruin him financially and that "technically what you did was kidnapping" because nobody asked him permission when my sister was moving from CT to NY to live with me when the court order still says she's supposed to live with him but that he didn't want to go down that route because it's "low" but that it's low of me to bring him to court about child support. So, my question is: Do I need to worry about being arrested for kidnapping? Would I be better off dropping the child support case? TLDR: Filed for child support against both parents after taking in my little sister, Dad said to drop the case and he'll overlook the "kidnapping".
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You do not need to be worried about being arrested for kidnapping because you never kidnapped her. You looked after your sister and went above and beyond for her. Your dad, quite frankly, is unsurprsingly, an idiot. Imagine being a police officer and getting called to a "kidnapping charge" where the girl is happy to be there, was given permission by the current parent, is now 18 years of age, and was given an opportunity to get an education, the kidnapper is a family member who allows her to come and go as she pleases, AND the complainant is a deadbeat dad. AND, said father said he would overlook said charge for financial gain. Be proud of what you have done and who you are as a person.
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So, extortion? The police aren't going to get involved in a kidnapping where the victim was a consenting 17-year-old at the time and neither parent thought to report it until after she reached the age of majority. The threat is largely empty. If, by some miracle, the police _do_ want to talk to you about this, don't respond without an attorney (and tell them, frankly but politely, that you are not going to speak to them without one), but otherwise, relax. Personally, I would overlook your father's threats and ignore them, but however you choose to proceed, there's no point in engaging with them. The rest of this will be worked out in the hearing about support.
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I allowed my 17 year old sister to move in with me (CT to NY), Dad is threatening me with kidnapping charges [NY] Sorry for the huge post. Last year (April 2017), my sister (then 17 and living in CT with our mother) dropped out of high school and came to live with me. I live in NY State, Albany area. My mother is disabled by mental illness and in her condition was neglecting my sister and my adult brother that lived there (disabled w/ autism) was physically abusive towards both of them. According to the custody agreement in my mother and father's divorce (in 2006) it was Dad that was supposed to be the custodial parent and my Mom was supposed to be paying him child support and getting weekend visitation. My sister lived with Dad and his then-girlfriend (now wife) for about 3 years and then sent her to live with Mom. However, Mom never got the support order changed but worked out an agreement with Dad: she got to keep the SSI money that was my sister's benefit instead of it being forwarded to Dad for support and he kept her on his health insurance. When my sister came to live with me last year, Mom told me she would send the benefit money on to me for taking care of my sister. She didn't. Dad kept her on his health insurance but refused to pay anything towards her online high school course when asked saying he didn't have any money to spare. So, I'm paying it because she needs a high school education and it's only $50/month. This year my sister turned 18 and is almost finished her online high courses,and has started looking for a job but is considering trade school (so proud of her!) She will be staying with me until she can afford to move out; my wife and I have agreed to that and have no problem with that. In NY, child support can be received up to age 21. So, I filed a petition for child support for Mom and for Dad through NY State and the county court here sent out notices to them to appear for a court date. Dad received his yesterday and called me up, asked me why I was doing this to him, told me I need to drop the case because it's going to ruin him financially and that "technically what you did was kidnapping" because nobody asked him permission when my sister was moving from CT to NY to live with me when the court order still says she's supposed to live with him but that he didn't want to go down that route because it's "low" but that it's low of me to bring him to court about child support. So, my question is: Do I need to worry about being arrested for kidnapping? Would I be better off dropping the child support case? TLDR: Filed for child support against both parents after taking in my little sister, Dad said to drop the case and he'll overlook the "kidnapping".
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You mother is the one who has a problem. Social Security does not look favorably on representative payees who do not support the person for whom the SSI is intended. The SSI should have started coming to your sister when she turned 18. It would end when she completes high school (I think). Have your sister contact Social Security (SSA.gov). Have her ask if anyone is receiving SSI on her behalf. Edit: Spelling
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Not an answer to your legal question, but you might encourage your sister to make sure her online diploma is seen as “official”. Many times they are not. She may want to get her GED to avoid acceptance delay in a trade school.
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I allowed my 17 year old sister to move in with me (CT to NY), Dad is threatening me with kidnapping charges [NY] Sorry for the huge post. Last year (April 2017), my sister (then 17 and living in CT with our mother) dropped out of high school and came to live with me. I live in NY State, Albany area. My mother is disabled by mental illness and in her condition was neglecting my sister and my adult brother that lived there (disabled w/ autism) was physically abusive towards both of them. According to the custody agreement in my mother and father's divorce (in 2006) it was Dad that was supposed to be the custodial parent and my Mom was supposed to be paying him child support and getting weekend visitation. My sister lived with Dad and his then-girlfriend (now wife) for about 3 years and then sent her to live with Mom. However, Mom never got the support order changed but worked out an agreement with Dad: she got to keep the SSI money that was my sister's benefit instead of it being forwarded to Dad for support and he kept her on his health insurance. When my sister came to live with me last year, Mom told me she would send the benefit money on to me for taking care of my sister. She didn't. Dad kept her on his health insurance but refused to pay anything towards her online high school course when asked saying he didn't have any money to spare. So, I'm paying it because she needs a high school education and it's only $50/month. This year my sister turned 18 and is almost finished her online high courses,and has started looking for a job but is considering trade school (so proud of her!) She will be staying with me until she can afford to move out; my wife and I have agreed to that and have no problem with that. In NY, child support can be received up to age 21. So, I filed a petition for child support for Mom and for Dad through NY State and the county court here sent out notices to them to appear for a court date. Dad received his yesterday and called me up, asked me why I was doing this to him, told me I need to drop the case because it's going to ruin him financially and that "technically what you did was kidnapping" because nobody asked him permission when my sister was moving from CT to NY to live with me when the court order still says she's supposed to live with him but that he didn't want to go down that route because it's "low" but that it's low of me to bring him to court about child support. So, my question is: Do I need to worry about being arrested for kidnapping? Would I be better off dropping the child support case? TLDR: Filed for child support against both parents after taking in my little sister, Dad said to drop the case and he'll overlook the "kidnapping".
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In a lot of states (I live in Michigan and it is true here) a 17 year old is legally an adult and can choose where they live, and can not be told by a parent where to live. They have the legal right to stay at home and the legal right to leave.
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If you do end up wanting/needing a lawyer or legal advice, the Legal Aid Society Of Northeastern NY is based on Albany and they are great. I’m personally more familiar with their tenants rights work but I’m sure they could help navigate things or connect you with local resources. Good luck!
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I allowed my 17 year old sister to move in with me (CT to NY), Dad is threatening me with kidnapping charges [NY] Sorry for the huge post. Last year (April 2017), my sister (then 17 and living in CT with our mother) dropped out of high school and came to live with me. I live in NY State, Albany area. My mother is disabled by mental illness and in her condition was neglecting my sister and my adult brother that lived there (disabled w/ autism) was physically abusive towards both of them. According to the custody agreement in my mother and father's divorce (in 2006) it was Dad that was supposed to be the custodial parent and my Mom was supposed to be paying him child support and getting weekend visitation. My sister lived with Dad and his then-girlfriend (now wife) for about 3 years and then sent her to live with Mom. However, Mom never got the support order changed but worked out an agreement with Dad: she got to keep the SSI money that was my sister's benefit instead of it being forwarded to Dad for support and he kept her on his health insurance. When my sister came to live with me last year, Mom told me she would send the benefit money on to me for taking care of my sister. She didn't. Dad kept her on his health insurance but refused to pay anything towards her online high school course when asked saying he didn't have any money to spare. So, I'm paying it because she needs a high school education and it's only $50/month. This year my sister turned 18 and is almost finished her online high courses,and has started looking for a job but is considering trade school (so proud of her!) She will be staying with me until she can afford to move out; my wife and I have agreed to that and have no problem with that. In NY, child support can be received up to age 21. So, I filed a petition for child support for Mom and for Dad through NY State and the county court here sent out notices to them to appear for a court date. Dad received his yesterday and called me up, asked me why I was doing this to him, told me I need to drop the case because it's going to ruin him financially and that "technically what you did was kidnapping" because nobody asked him permission when my sister was moving from CT to NY to live with me when the court order still says she's supposed to live with him but that he didn't want to go down that route because it's "low" but that it's low of me to bring him to court about child support. So, my question is: Do I need to worry about being arrested for kidnapping? Would I be better off dropping the child support case? TLDR: Filed for child support against both parents after taking in my little sister, Dad said to drop the case and he'll overlook the "kidnapping".
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Document the threats and keep strong and continue to take him to court. Your sister deserves to be able to get support and an education.
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If you do end up wanting/needing a lawyer or legal advice, the Legal Aid Society Of Northeastern NY is based on Albany and they are great. I’m personally more familiar with their tenants rights work but I’m sure they could help navigate things or connect you with local resources. Good luck!
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I allowed my 17 year old sister to move in with me (CT to NY), Dad is threatening me with kidnapping charges [NY] Sorry for the huge post. Last year (April 2017), my sister (then 17 and living in CT with our mother) dropped out of high school and came to live with me. I live in NY State, Albany area. My mother is disabled by mental illness and in her condition was neglecting my sister and my adult brother that lived there (disabled w/ autism) was physically abusive towards both of them. According to the custody agreement in my mother and father's divorce (in 2006) it was Dad that was supposed to be the custodial parent and my Mom was supposed to be paying him child support and getting weekend visitation. My sister lived with Dad and his then-girlfriend (now wife) for about 3 years and then sent her to live with Mom. However, Mom never got the support order changed but worked out an agreement with Dad: she got to keep the SSI money that was my sister's benefit instead of it being forwarded to Dad for support and he kept her on his health insurance. When my sister came to live with me last year, Mom told me she would send the benefit money on to me for taking care of my sister. She didn't. Dad kept her on his health insurance but refused to pay anything towards her online high school course when asked saying he didn't have any money to spare. So, I'm paying it because she needs a high school education and it's only $50/month. This year my sister turned 18 and is almost finished her online high courses,and has started looking for a job but is considering trade school (so proud of her!) She will be staying with me until she can afford to move out; my wife and I have agreed to that and have no problem with that. In NY, child support can be received up to age 21. So, I filed a petition for child support for Mom and for Dad through NY State and the county court here sent out notices to them to appear for a court date. Dad received his yesterday and called me up, asked me why I was doing this to him, told me I need to drop the case because it's going to ruin him financially and that "technically what you did was kidnapping" because nobody asked him permission when my sister was moving from CT to NY to live with me when the court order still says she's supposed to live with him but that he didn't want to go down that route because it's "low" but that it's low of me to bring him to court about child support. So, my question is: Do I need to worry about being arrested for kidnapping? Would I be better off dropping the child support case? TLDR: Filed for child support against both parents after taking in my little sister, Dad said to drop the case and he'll overlook the "kidnapping".
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Document the threats and keep strong and continue to take him to court. Your sister deserves to be able to get support and an education.
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In a lot of states (I live in Michigan and it is true here) a 17 year old is legally an adult and can choose where they live, and can not be told by a parent where to live. They have the legal right to stay at home and the legal right to leave.
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My ex GF has a restraining order against me and wont leave me alone. New York State- My ex gf has an order of protection against me without merit. A few months ago she called me drunk and I recorded the phone call. Basically in the phone call she stated that she wanted the restraining order so that she could essentially control me. I violated the order of protection by engaging in this conversation. Fast forward to a week ago, I went to court thinking I would be able to defend myself, unfortunately my attorney didn't believe me and pretty much tried to give me an attitude adjustment, needless to say I never got to bring this evidence forward. So now she has an order of protection against me and is still texting me everyday and won't stop, I notified her current boyfriend, and tried to notify my attorney but he won't take my calls. Can I get in trouble for telling her current BF that she won't stop contacting me, and what if any trouble will I be in?
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> needless to say I never got to bring this evidence forward. Probably a good thing that your lawyer didn't let you present evidence that you have violated a protection order, don't you think?
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Find a new lawyer. Don't respond or communicate with her or with her boyfriend or her family or anybody associated with her. Continue to record and keep a record of every time she contacts you. Then you get a restraining order against her.
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etdoau
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I have a lifetime restraining order (filed in 2016) against my abusive ex. He hasn't contacted me since then, but he has started sending abusive messages again. What can I do? I had to get a restraining order against my ex for mental and physical abuse. He's a classic abuser who will reach out under seemingly harmless circumstances, but I never respond and I block him. Be it via social media, phone numbers, or by email. When I don't respond, he becomes irate and lashes out against me. I have not responded to or acknowledged any of his messages since 2015, but I have documented each and every time he has tried to reach out. I want this to stop. I thought my lifetime restraining order from 2016 would suffice, but I don't know where he currently is to be able to tell the authorities. Is there any sort of recourse I can take? I am in Texas if this helps, and the restraining order was filed and executed in a different county than the one in which I currently reside.
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Not a lawyer: Contact includes any direct forms of communication including but not limited to: Mail, third party deliveries, third party communication, email, online messages, etc. I would contact your local law enforcement in person with the most recent attempts (past month or two's worth of messages), and a copy of your RO and let them know he is in violation of a court ordered no contact. They may tell him to knock it off or arrest him immediately based on the severity and frequency of his insistence. Continue documenting it, and cooperate with the DA in charge of his case if prosecution occurs and show a long standing pattern of all contact. Courts will probably nail him for what they can, buying you more time and peace of mind if/when incarcerated for harassment and violation of the order in place.
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An actual lifetime restraining order? Or "permanent" restraining order?
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cih1ye
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I was convinced by my lawyers to drop my restraining order against my murderous ex-husband. Now he’s moving in next-door to me. Help [Maine] My marriage ended in August of last year when my now-ex confessed he was planning to murder me, then 3 days later laid hands on me to do it. He was arrested for DVA but released on bail thanks to his mistress, final outcome of the case was he was cleared of all charges and ordered to take a domestic violence class of some kind and get therapy, neither of which he has done. I had a restraining order but during the divorce process I was advised to drop it in favor of putting similar rules into our divorce agreement. This past week he contacted me, against our divorce agreement’s rules, to remind me that he was *disturbed* by his fantasy of killing me and did not *want* to kill me, which was upsetting and made me feel frightened that he must be fantasizing about it again. Now his former mistress/most recent ex-gf has contacted me to warn me that he told her he’s moving in next door to me. What can I do? My understanding is that I cannot get the restraining order back now. The divorce agreement doesn’t say anything about him living in close proximity to me, because no one thought he would do this? I feel like my only option is to purchase a gun and start praying. But I don’t want a gun, because I have small children in the house.
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ev6ngxm
| 1,564,244,036 | 1,564,249,068 | 15 | 29 |
Would it be any sort of tortious interference to talk to the current owner of the next door property and advise them of the situation? If it's a rental, the owner may not want to deal with this sort of thing (at the very least, if the ex is in jail, they wouldn't get their rent). Even if it's a sale, some might stall or cancel the sale.
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>This past week he contacted me How did he contact you? If he calls, and you're required to answer the calls (if, for example, you have shared custody and need to be in contact), then you need to record every call. There are apps which will do that. If you aren't required to answer his calls then don't - let him go to voicemail and save them. If he's sending texts or emails using social media, you need to document those contacts. >I feel like my only option is to purchase a gun Maine has constitutional carry, so you can carry a pistol without a permit. But doing so without training is not a good idea. If you're seriously considering a firearm (or pepper spray or other self-defense weapons), you should get training. Whatever your feelings are toward the NRA (and I'm a pro-2A guy who isn't and won't ever be an NRA member), they do offer courses that are worth taking. https://www.nrainstructors.org/Search.aspx Women on target or basic pistol Basic personal protection inside the home >and start praying. Resorting to prayer is giving up. Don't give up. >But I don’t want a gun, because I have small children in the house. This changes everything. It's no longer just about you and your life. You are going to have to consider the possibility that your children are at risk too. What does the divorce settlement say about custody/visitation/etc? You really need to get this all sorted out with the combined help of law enforcement, your lawyer, domestic violence counselors, etc. Maine Coalition to end domestic violence: https://www.mcedv.org/
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cih1ye
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legaladvice_train
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I was convinced by my lawyers to drop my restraining order against my murderous ex-husband. Now he’s moving in next-door to me. Help [Maine] My marriage ended in August of last year when my now-ex confessed he was planning to murder me, then 3 days later laid hands on me to do it. He was arrested for DVA but released on bail thanks to his mistress, final outcome of the case was he was cleared of all charges and ordered to take a domestic violence class of some kind and get therapy, neither of which he has done. I had a restraining order but during the divorce process I was advised to drop it in favor of putting similar rules into our divorce agreement. This past week he contacted me, against our divorce agreement’s rules, to remind me that he was *disturbed* by his fantasy of killing me and did not *want* to kill me, which was upsetting and made me feel frightened that he must be fantasizing about it again. Now his former mistress/most recent ex-gf has contacted me to warn me that he told her he’s moving in next door to me. What can I do? My understanding is that I cannot get the restraining order back now. The divorce agreement doesn’t say anything about him living in close proximity to me, because no one thought he would do this? I feel like my only option is to purchase a gun and start praying. But I don’t want a gun, because I have small children in the house.
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ev6ngxm
| 1,564,245,715 | 1,564,249,068 | 11 | 29 |
You can seek a new restraining order. You say you put similar rules into the divorce agreement: is he violating the terms of that agreement by moving next door to you? I think your understanding that you can't get the restraining order back is most likely flawed: you should be able to get a new one, and the fact that he contacted you and is moving next to you provides you with new facts to support your application. On another note, cameras are cheap now. Get a camera for your front door (I have Nest and it works very well, integrated with phone). Are you at all a dog person? A dog can be a great protector, and your kids would love the dog.
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>This past week he contacted me How did he contact you? If he calls, and you're required to answer the calls (if, for example, you have shared custody and need to be in contact), then you need to record every call. There are apps which will do that. If you aren't required to answer his calls then don't - let him go to voicemail and save them. If he's sending texts or emails using social media, you need to document those contacts. >I feel like my only option is to purchase a gun Maine has constitutional carry, so you can carry a pistol without a permit. But doing so without training is not a good idea. If you're seriously considering a firearm (or pepper spray or other self-defense weapons), you should get training. Whatever your feelings are toward the NRA (and I'm a pro-2A guy who isn't and won't ever be an NRA member), they do offer courses that are worth taking. https://www.nrainstructors.org/Search.aspx Women on target or basic pistol Basic personal protection inside the home >and start praying. Resorting to prayer is giving up. Don't give up. >But I don’t want a gun, because I have small children in the house. This changes everything. It's no longer just about you and your life. You are going to have to consider the possibility that your children are at risk too. What does the divorce settlement say about custody/visitation/etc? You really need to get this all sorted out with the combined help of law enforcement, your lawyer, domestic violence counselors, etc. Maine Coalition to end domestic violence: https://www.mcedv.org/
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cih1ye
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legaladvice_train
| 0.96 |
I was convinced by my lawyers to drop my restraining order against my murderous ex-husband. Now he’s moving in next-door to me. Help [Maine] My marriage ended in August of last year when my now-ex confessed he was planning to murder me, then 3 days later laid hands on me to do it. He was arrested for DVA but released on bail thanks to his mistress, final outcome of the case was he was cleared of all charges and ordered to take a domestic violence class of some kind and get therapy, neither of which he has done. I had a restraining order but during the divorce process I was advised to drop it in favor of putting similar rules into our divorce agreement. This past week he contacted me, against our divorce agreement’s rules, to remind me that he was *disturbed* by his fantasy of killing me and did not *want* to kill me, which was upsetting and made me feel frightened that he must be fantasizing about it again. Now his former mistress/most recent ex-gf has contacted me to warn me that he told her he’s moving in next door to me. What can I do? My understanding is that I cannot get the restraining order back now. The divorce agreement doesn’t say anything about him living in close proximity to me, because no one thought he would do this? I feel like my only option is to purchase a gun and start praying. But I don’t want a gun, because I have small children in the house.
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ev8lv61
| 1,564,275,216 | 1,564,283,558 | 5 | 6 |
You can still get a restraining order
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You can file a new restraining order. There should be an emergency order you can file.
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cih1ye
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legaladvice_train
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I was convinced by my lawyers to drop my restraining order against my murderous ex-husband. Now he’s moving in next-door to me. Help [Maine] My marriage ended in August of last year when my now-ex confessed he was planning to murder me, then 3 days later laid hands on me to do it. He was arrested for DVA but released on bail thanks to his mistress, final outcome of the case was he was cleared of all charges and ordered to take a domestic violence class of some kind and get therapy, neither of which he has done. I had a restraining order but during the divorce process I was advised to drop it in favor of putting similar rules into our divorce agreement. This past week he contacted me, against our divorce agreement’s rules, to remind me that he was *disturbed* by his fantasy of killing me and did not *want* to kill me, which was upsetting and made me feel frightened that he must be fantasizing about it again. Now his former mistress/most recent ex-gf has contacted me to warn me that he told her he’s moving in next door to me. What can I do? My understanding is that I cannot get the restraining order back now. The divorce agreement doesn’t say anything about him living in close proximity to me, because no one thought he would do this? I feel like my only option is to purchase a gun and start praying. But I don’t want a gun, because I have small children in the house.
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ev8cx69
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ev7mbpp
| 1,564,275,853 | 1,564,261,507 | 7 | 6 |
Contact Partners for Peace! They are a really great resource in Maine for victims of DV!
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I'm not sure which city or town you live in, but you may be able to find out the landlord info. Contact the landlord and tell him/her about the his arrest for domestic violence. The landlord may not want him living there, the roommates either. Don't take any chances, don't be 'nice' about it and give him the benefit of the doubt.
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cih1ye
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legaladvice_train
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I was convinced by my lawyers to drop my restraining order against my murderous ex-husband. Now he’s moving in next-door to me. Help [Maine] My marriage ended in August of last year when my now-ex confessed he was planning to murder me, then 3 days later laid hands on me to do it. He was arrested for DVA but released on bail thanks to his mistress, final outcome of the case was he was cleared of all charges and ordered to take a domestic violence class of some kind and get therapy, neither of which he has done. I had a restraining order but during the divorce process I was advised to drop it in favor of putting similar rules into our divorce agreement. This past week he contacted me, against our divorce agreement’s rules, to remind me that he was *disturbed* by his fantasy of killing me and did not *want* to kill me, which was upsetting and made me feel frightened that he must be fantasizing about it again. Now his former mistress/most recent ex-gf has contacted me to warn me that he told her he’s moving in next door to me. What can I do? My understanding is that I cannot get the restraining order back now. The divorce agreement doesn’t say anything about him living in close proximity to me, because no one thought he would do this? I feel like my only option is to purchase a gun and start praying. But I don’t want a gun, because I have small children in the house.
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ev8cx69
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ev8c5j6
| 1,564,275,853 | 1,564,275,216 | 7 | 5 |
Contact Partners for Peace! They are a really great resource in Maine for victims of DV!
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You can still get a restraining order
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfbrck
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Realistically, that "special allowance" sounds like a reasonable proposal. The covenants and such are the main reason people DON'T want to join HOAs. If they're letting him continue to have water without having to be subject to all those restrictions, that's a good thing. Let's say that the old well company sold to a new well company who just jacked up the prices. Why would that be any different? That said, private water systems are frequently regulated by the state and the state may dictate what rates are allowed to be. So, if the new rates are significantly higher than the old ones, he might want to hire a lawyer to look into that.
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INAL, but I see 2 potential options to pursue in addition to contacting a lawyer. One is to pay the HOA the amount he has paid the previous well owner. It obviously has been well (not pun intended) established what the actual cost is to maintain the equipment over a long period of time. That way he isn't "harming" the other owners. The other is to install his own well. Good luck and let us know the outcome.
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfalxy
| 1,589,323,944 | 1,589,321,524 | 178 | 9 |
Realistically, that "special allowance" sounds like a reasonable proposal. The covenants and such are the main reason people DON'T want to join HOAs. If they're letting him continue to have water without having to be subject to all those restrictions, that's a good thing. Let's say that the old well company sold to a new well company who just jacked up the prices. Why would that be any different? That said, private water systems are frequently regulated by the state and the state may dictate what rates are allowed to be. So, if the new rates are significantly higher than the old ones, he might want to hire a lawyer to look into that.
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Has he considered digging his own well? That's keep him from having to get involved ? Ianal
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfbrck
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fqfq0z8
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INAL, but I see 2 potential options to pursue in addition to contacting a lawyer. One is to pay the HOA the amount he has paid the previous well owner. It obviously has been well (not pun intended) established what the actual cost is to maintain the equipment over a long period of time. That way he isn't "harming" the other owners. The other is to install his own well. Good luck and let us know the outcome.
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Did he have a well agreement with the original company -- anything in writing granting him access? Having dealt with a variety of shared wells over the years, if there's an air tight well agreement granting him access to the well, he may be able to tell them legally to pound sand. Or not. Well agreements are complicated, and it always seems that they aren't particularly well thought out or there are loopholes that unscrupulous people can take advantage of. This is lawyer territory. However, weigh the cost of a lawyer against the cost of a new well -- which is also highly variable. Get quotes from a couple well drillers. Don't go with the cheapest one, either. Also factor in the possible loss of value inherent in joining an HOA. (In my area, at least, property values are negatively affected by the presence of an HOA, and "no HOA" is a definite selling point.)
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gijkoz
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legaladvice_train
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfib28
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fqfq0z8
| 1,589,325,397 | 1,589,329,472 | 8 | 113 |
He needs an expert real estate attorney with experience with water rights issues in that state. In a newer development with a community well, typically the residential property owners do not own water rights.
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Did he have a well agreement with the original company -- anything in writing granting him access? Having dealt with a variety of shared wells over the years, if there's an air tight well agreement granting him access to the well, he may be able to tell them legally to pound sand. Or not. Well agreements are complicated, and it always seems that they aren't particularly well thought out or there are loopholes that unscrupulous people can take advantage of. This is lawyer territory. However, weigh the cost of a lawyer against the cost of a new well -- which is also highly variable. Get quotes from a couple well drillers. Don't go with the cheapest one, either. Also factor in the possible loss of value inherent in joining an HOA. (In my area, at least, property values are negatively affected by the presence of an HOA, and "no HOA" is a definite selling point.)
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gijkoz
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legaladvice_train
| 0.98 |
Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfalxy
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fqfq0z8
| 1,589,321,524 | 1,589,329,472 | 9 | 113 |
Has he considered digging his own well? That's keep him from having to get involved ? Ianal
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Did he have a well agreement with the original company -- anything in writing granting him access? Having dealt with a variety of shared wells over the years, if there's an air tight well agreement granting him access to the well, he may be able to tell them legally to pound sand. Or not. Well agreements are complicated, and it always seems that they aren't particularly well thought out or there are loopholes that unscrupulous people can take advantage of. This is lawyer territory. However, weigh the cost of a lawyer against the cost of a new well -- which is also highly variable. Get quotes from a couple well drillers. Don't go with the cheapest one, either. Also factor in the possible loss of value inherent in joining an HOA. (In my area, at least, property values are negatively affected by the presence of an HOA, and "no HOA" is a definite selling point.)
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfalxy
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INAL, but I see 2 potential options to pursue in addition to contacting a lawyer. One is to pay the HOA the amount he has paid the previous well owner. It obviously has been well (not pun intended) established what the actual cost is to maintain the equipment over a long period of time. That way he isn't "harming" the other owners. The other is to install his own well. Good luck and let us know the outcome.
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Has he considered digging his own well? That's keep him from having to get involved ? Ianal
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfrll7
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fqfyq24
| 1,589,330,328 | 1,589,334,363 | 22 | 32 |
This is territory for a real-estate lawyer, or contract lawyer. This affects your ownership, and possibly the future sale of your property, and should not be considered a self-help situation. In California, there is something called water access rights, and it is serious business. Unfortunately, I don't see water access laws in depth like that for Iowa. You may find this site useful: https://www.iowadnr.gov/Environmental-Protection/Water-Quality/Drinking-Water-Compliance And I might be able to get access to this interesting-looking article for you. https://www.jstor.org/stable/41254284?seq=1 As far as I know, and I am not a lawyer, you purchased the property and the water access before the HOA assumed control. Your contract and agreement with the water well company supersedes anything else. The company, when they transferred the well (or sold it) had the responsibility of transferring its liabilities and debts as well - including their contractual obligation to provide you water, if such an agreement existed. Do you still have that paper that granted your family the water rights originally? (Do not agree to anything with the HOA. Once you do, the older contract will assume to be surrendered in its entirety).
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First I would love to hear what your attorney does with this, which is my advice is to get an attorney. IF we assume the HOA is disingenuous then let's look at their long plan. They are probably offering to give your dad the moon, we will "exempt you from everything" Which is we don't want to just send you a water bill; we want you home. They want your dad to join the HOA and are using their new water rights to force him, with what will probably be a "temporary exemption". Which will probably be once he sells or dies the home is then fully in the HOA and the new owner will be covered by the CC&R's. This play lowers the value of the home so I would definitely fight this with a good attorney. You will also want to know what the value change will be once you're in the HOA, It might be digging a well is cheaper.
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfyq24
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fqfybsj
| 1,589,334,363 | 1,589,334,133 | 32 | 15 |
First I would love to hear what your attorney does with this, which is my advice is to get an attorney. IF we assume the HOA is disingenuous then let's look at their long plan. They are probably offering to give your dad the moon, we will "exempt you from everything" Which is we don't want to just send you a water bill; we want you home. They want your dad to join the HOA and are using their new water rights to force him, with what will probably be a "temporary exemption". Which will probably be once he sells or dies the home is then fully in the HOA and the new owner will be covered by the CC&R's. This play lowers the value of the home so I would definitely fight this with a good attorney. You will also want to know what the value change will be once you're in the HOA, It might be digging a well is cheaper.
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Your dad needs a real estate attorney to check and see if he has any easement or water rights from that well. In the end it may be less expensive to dig his own well. If he is going to "join" the HOA make sure an attorney reads through the documentation before signing.
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfyq24
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fqfib28
| 1,589,334,363 | 1,589,325,397 | 32 | 8 |
First I would love to hear what your attorney does with this, which is my advice is to get an attorney. IF we assume the HOA is disingenuous then let's look at their long plan. They are probably offering to give your dad the moon, we will "exempt you from everything" Which is we don't want to just send you a water bill; we want you home. They want your dad to join the HOA and are using their new water rights to force him, with what will probably be a "temporary exemption". Which will probably be once he sells or dies the home is then fully in the HOA and the new owner will be covered by the CC&R's. This play lowers the value of the home so I would definitely fight this with a good attorney. You will also want to know what the value change will be once you're in the HOA, It might be digging a well is cheaper.
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He needs an expert real estate attorney with experience with water rights issues in that state. In a newer development with a community well, typically the residential property owners do not own water rights.
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfyq24
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fqfalxy
| 1,589,334,363 | 1,589,321,524 | 32 | 9 |
First I would love to hear what your attorney does with this, which is my advice is to get an attorney. IF we assume the HOA is disingenuous then let's look at their long plan. They are probably offering to give your dad the moon, we will "exempt you from everything" Which is we don't want to just send you a water bill; we want you home. They want your dad to join the HOA and are using their new water rights to force him, with what will probably be a "temporary exemption". Which will probably be once he sells or dies the home is then fully in the HOA and the new owner will be covered by the CC&R's. This play lowers the value of the home so I would definitely fight this with a good attorney. You will also want to know what the value change will be once you're in the HOA, It might be digging a well is cheaper.
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Has he considered digging his own well? That's keep him from having to get involved ? Ianal
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gijkoz
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legaladvice_train
| 0.98 |
Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfrll7
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fqfib28
| 1,589,330,328 | 1,589,325,397 | 22 | 8 |
This is territory for a real-estate lawyer, or contract lawyer. This affects your ownership, and possibly the future sale of your property, and should not be considered a self-help situation. In California, there is something called water access rights, and it is serious business. Unfortunately, I don't see water access laws in depth like that for Iowa. You may find this site useful: https://www.iowadnr.gov/Environmental-Protection/Water-Quality/Drinking-Water-Compliance And I might be able to get access to this interesting-looking article for you. https://www.jstor.org/stable/41254284?seq=1 As far as I know, and I am not a lawyer, you purchased the property and the water access before the HOA assumed control. Your contract and agreement with the water well company supersedes anything else. The company, when they transferred the well (or sold it) had the responsibility of transferring its liabilities and debts as well - including their contractual obligation to provide you water, if such an agreement existed. Do you still have that paper that granted your family the water rights originally? (Do not agree to anything with the HOA. Once you do, the older contract will assume to be surrendered in its entirety).
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He needs an expert real estate attorney with experience with water rights issues in that state. In a newer development with a community well, typically the residential property owners do not own water rights.
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfrll7
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fqfalxy
| 1,589,330,328 | 1,589,321,524 | 22 | 9 |
This is territory for a real-estate lawyer, or contract lawyer. This affects your ownership, and possibly the future sale of your property, and should not be considered a self-help situation. In California, there is something called water access rights, and it is serious business. Unfortunately, I don't see water access laws in depth like that for Iowa. You may find this site useful: https://www.iowadnr.gov/Environmental-Protection/Water-Quality/Drinking-Water-Compliance And I might be able to get access to this interesting-looking article for you. https://www.jstor.org/stable/41254284?seq=1 As far as I know, and I am not a lawyer, you purchased the property and the water access before the HOA assumed control. Your contract and agreement with the water well company supersedes anything else. The company, when they transferred the well (or sold it) had the responsibility of transferring its liabilities and debts as well - including their contractual obligation to provide you water, if such an agreement existed. Do you still have that paper that granted your family the water rights originally? (Do not agree to anything with the HOA. Once you do, the older contract will assume to be surrendered in its entirety).
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Has he considered digging his own well? That's keep him from having to get involved ? Ianal
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gijkoz
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legaladvice_train
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfybsj
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fqfib28
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Your dad needs a real estate attorney to check and see if he has any easement or water rights from that well. In the end it may be less expensive to dig his own well. If he is going to "join" the HOA make sure an attorney reads through the documentation before signing.
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He needs an expert real estate attorney with experience with water rights issues in that state. In a newer development with a community well, typically the residential property owners do not own water rights.
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfalxy
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Your dad needs a real estate attorney to check and see if he has any easement or water rights from that well. In the end it may be less expensive to dig his own well. If he is going to "join" the HOA make sure an attorney reads through the documentation before signing.
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Has he considered digging his own well? That's keep him from having to get involved ? Ianal
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqg2cv8
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It’s considered to be a public water system under Iowa law. The laws governing what they can and can’t do are very specific to Iowa and even the county they are in. Really need to get an attorney familiar with utility and property law. I suppose you could call Iowa DNR if you wanted to do your own research. But there is going to be a labyrinth to walk through
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When the HOA bought the well they also received all its encumbrances, including supplying your father with water. Tell him to sign nothing, do not even speak to their representatives. He will need a lawyer immediately for this.
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfib28
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fqh5zgq
| 1,589,325,397 | 1,589,368,875 | 8 | 14 |
He needs an expert real estate attorney with experience with water rights issues in that state. In a newer development with a community well, typically the residential property owners do not own water rights.
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It’s considered to be a public water system under Iowa law. The laws governing what they can and can’t do are very specific to Iowa and even the county they are in. Really need to get an attorney familiar with utility and property law. I suppose you could call Iowa DNR if you wanted to do your own research. But there is going to be a labyrinth to walk through
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfalxy
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It’s considered to be a public water system under Iowa law. The laws governing what they can and can’t do are very specific to Iowa and even the county they are in. Really need to get an attorney familiar with utility and property law. I suppose you could call Iowa DNR if you wanted to do your own research. But there is going to be a labyrinth to walk through
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Has he considered digging his own well? That's keep him from having to get involved ? Ianal
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gijkoz
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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I mean, he's going to need a lawyer at this point, but in a perfect world, he had a contract (formal or otherwise some sort of written agreement) with the well company and the new owner of the well (The HOA) would obligated to continue fulfilling their responsibilities with existing contracts.
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It’s considered to be a public water system under Iowa law. The laws governing what they can and can’t do are very specific to Iowa and even the county they are in. Really need to get an attorney familiar with utility and property law. I suppose you could call Iowa DNR if you wanted to do your own research. But there is going to be a labyrinth to walk through
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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It’s considered to be a public water system under Iowa law. The laws governing what they can and can’t do are very specific to Iowa and even the county they are in. Really need to get an attorney familiar with utility and property law. I suppose you could call Iowa DNR if you wanted to do your own research. But there is going to be a labyrinth to walk through
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Not a lawyer - Your father needs to see a lawyer. Also, in conjunction with the lawyer, your father may want to approach the Iowa Utilities Board, as the HOA may be considered as a public water company, since they serve your father's property, which is not part of the HOA. This may help or hurt your father's position. I don't know. I'm somewhat betting that since the HOA is neither a municipal utilities or a rural water districts, and that the HOA's ownership does not fall into any type of water utility system the state oversees - that may raise some interesting questions with the entire situation. * https://iub.iowa.gov/regulated-industries/water
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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It’s considered to be a public water system under Iowa law. The laws governing what they can and can’t do are very specific to Iowa and even the county they are in. Really need to get an attorney familiar with utility and property law. I suppose you could call Iowa DNR if you wanted to do your own research. But there is going to be a labyrinth to walk through
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I read the other comments and didn’t see it asked. “What does the land deed/title say about it?” There should have been something written up about it. Also, there should have been a lawyer with the original purchase. Contact him/her.
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqfib28
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When the HOA bought the well they also received all its encumbrances, including supplying your father with water. Tell him to sign nothing, do not even speak to their representatives. He will need a lawyer immediately for this.
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He needs an expert real estate attorney with experience with water rights issues in that state. In a newer development with a community well, typically the residential property owners do not own water rights.
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqg2cv8
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fqfalxy
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When the HOA bought the well they also received all its encumbrances, including supplying your father with water. Tell him to sign nothing, do not even speak to their representatives. He will need a lawyer immediately for this.
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Has he considered digging his own well? That's keep him from having to get involved ? Ianal
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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I read the other comments and didn’t see it asked. “What does the land deed/title say about it?” There should have been something written up about it. Also, there should have been a lawyer with the original purchase. Contact him/her.
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When the HOA bought the well they also received all its encumbrances, including supplying your father with water. Tell him to sign nothing, do not even speak to their representatives. He will need a lawyer immediately for this.
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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I mean, he's going to need a lawyer at this point, but in a perfect world, he had a contract (formal or otherwise some sort of written agreement) with the well company and the new owner of the well (The HOA) would obligated to continue fulfilling their responsibilities with existing contracts.
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I read the other comments and didn’t see it asked. “What does the land deed/title say about it?” There should have been something written up about it. Also, there should have been a lawyer with the original purchase. Contact him/her.
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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Not a lawyer - Your father needs to see a lawyer. Also, in conjunction with the lawyer, your father may want to approach the Iowa Utilities Board, as the HOA may be considered as a public water company, since they serve your father's property, which is not part of the HOA. This may help or hurt your father's position. I don't know. I'm somewhat betting that since the HOA is neither a municipal utilities or a rural water districts, and that the HOA's ownership does not fall into any type of water utility system the state oversees - that may raise some interesting questions with the entire situation. * https://iub.iowa.gov/regulated-industries/water
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IAAL - It’s time for some cost-benefit analysis. Look into the cost of retaining counsel v. the annual HOA assessment and any related expenses minus what you are already paying. In many situations like this, the client is better served sucking it up. And be very wary of any attorney that is eager to take your money without considering that.
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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Not a lawyer - Your father needs to see a lawyer. Also, in conjunction with the lawyer, your father may want to approach the Iowa Utilities Board, as the HOA may be considered as a public water company, since they serve your father's property, which is not part of the HOA. This may help or hurt your father's position. I don't know. I'm somewhat betting that since the HOA is neither a municipal utilities or a rural water districts, and that the HOA's ownership does not fall into any type of water utility system the state oversees - that may raise some interesting questions with the entire situation. * https://iub.iowa.gov/regulated-industries/water
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I read the other comments and didn’t see it asked. “What does the land deed/title say about it?” There should have been something written up about it. Also, there should have been a lawyer with the original purchase. Contact him/her.
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Iowa. My dad's house is serviced by a community well that is now owned by an HOA. They want him to join the HOA to keep using the well. Does have any defense? My father owns a house in an area with a community well. Back in the 90s when he bought the land and had the house built, the neighborhood was all supposed to be developed. My father knew someone involved in the plans and bought a plot as soon as the opportunity came up. Meanwhile the well was put in by a well service and the way the contract worked, the well service owns the well and lines. However there was some drama with the development company and the rest of the development didn't end up happening at that time. They eventually sold it all to a different development company and that new company developed the block as an HOA neighborhood. They asked my dad to join, he said no, it was never really an issue again until recently. After the area was developed, the well company has always managed the well and bills people directly. They pay a very small amount that covers the cost of maintaining the well as well (extremely cheap). Apparently the well servicer recently wanted to get out of the well biz, but not a lot of well servicers want to OWN the well - they want to service them on contracts but don't want to be the actual owners these days. So, they sold the well back to the HOA who now owns it and hired a new company to do the maintenance. Now here is a failure on our part. My dad received notice in the mail about this from the HOA. However they have sent him mail in the past that was not relevant to him, so he thought the recent mailings were crap and ignored it. So apparently there were three community meetings held about this that he did not attend. They've left him voicemails but he admits that he listened to the first two seconds, thought it was political spam, and ignored it. Now they have finally gotten in touch with him that since the well is owned by the HOA, they are treating it as an HOA benefit and they can't give those benefits to non-members. They told him they understand that he doesn't want to be held to HOA covenants just to keep getting the same water he always has, but since the HOA is taking on the burden of the well they need to be fair to members and not have someone who isn't paying for HOA benefits receiving them. (It sounded exactly as slimy as it reads). They are offering him a "special allowance" to join the HOA but not be held to the covenants such as house colors and fences and all those other things, but so he can use the well. I don't know if they're being slimy and pulling a fast one without a legal basis, or if my father should be legitimately concerned. Should he get a lawyer?
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fqg0m9j
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IAAL - It’s time for some cost-benefit analysis. Look into the cost of retaining counsel v. the annual HOA assessment and any related expenses minus what you are already paying. In many situations like this, the client is better served sucking it up. And be very wary of any attorney that is eager to take your money without considering that.
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I read the other comments and didn’t see it asked. “What does the land deed/title say about it?” There should have been something written up about it. Also, there should have been a lawyer with the original purchase. Contact him/her.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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You can file a police report for the damages and/or sue whomever you feel damaged your property. You can move.
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Blaming her dogs is an admission of her responsibility. Pet owners are responsible for damages caused by their pets. So absolutely move, and file a police report for the property destruction, and you can sue her but the odds of recovering anything are slim since as you describe it she sounds insolvent. Edit: Find a roommate - maybe a co-worker?
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Blaming her dogs is an admission of her responsibility. Pet owners are responsible for damages caused by their pets. So absolutely move, and file a police report for the property destruction, and you can sue her but the odds of recovering anything are slim since as you describe it she sounds insolvent. Edit: Find a roommate - maybe a co-worker?
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What is your dad doing? Legal side you should/could make a police report and/or sue her in small claims court. If you don't want to do that I would get a lock for your bedroom door so she can't enter again. Non legal advice I would try to move our anyway and try to find a place with a roommate so you aren't alone and try to get some help from therapy or something so you can eventually live alone
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Blaming her dogs is an admission of her responsibility. Pet owners are responsible for damages caused by their pets. So absolutely move, and file a police report for the property destruction, and you can sue her but the odds of recovering anything are slim since as you describe it she sounds insolvent. Edit: Find a roommate - maybe a co-worker?
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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You can file a police report for the damages and/or sue whomever you feel damaged your property. You can move.
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What is your dad doing? Legal side you should/could make a police report and/or sue her in small claims court. If you don't want to do that I would get a lock for your bedroom door so she can't enter again. Non legal advice I would try to move our anyway and try to find a place with a roommate so you aren't alone and try to get some help from therapy or something so you can eventually live alone
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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You can file a police report for the damages and/or sue whomever you feel damaged your property. You can move.
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> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
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> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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What is your dad doing? Legal side you should/could make a police report and/or sue her in small claims court. If you don't want to do that I would get a lock for your bedroom door so she can't enter again. Non legal advice I would try to move our anyway and try to find a place with a roommate so you aren't alone and try to get some help from therapy or something so you can eventually live alone
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Get a motion activated camera for your bedroom. Put it up high so she can’t say the dogs got at it. If she is never suppose to be in your room then she has no grounds to complain about it.
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File a police report and tell your dad you are going to make a claim against the homeowner's insurance or they need to pay up. Then move. There are other places to rent a room. What is your father doing about his girlfriend's campaign of harassment against you? Her dogs sound unruly and have got to be tearing the house up as well. Surely he doesn't want to live like that either? Tell your landlord whom you are paying (father or not he's acting like a landlord since he taking money in exchange for your room) tell your father and his girlfriend you want your things replaced and the harassment to stop, file a police report, attach it to the homeowner's claim you should do, tell your father's girlfriend to keep her dogs and herself away from you, get a lock for the room you rent. Look for other places to rent a room and then move. Ignore the trash-digging girlfriend at all cost. She sounds unstable. Who waits around the door to listen in or goes through the garbage? Nobody sane does that.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1it8wv
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> someone broke into my place and destroyed a bunch of my stuff Call the cops.
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File a police report and tell your dad you are going to make a claim against the homeowner's insurance or they need to pay up. Then move. There are other places to rent a room. What is your father doing about his girlfriend's campaign of harassment against you? Her dogs sound unruly and have got to be tearing the house up as well. Surely he doesn't want to live like that either? Tell your landlord whom you are paying (father or not he's acting like a landlord since he taking money in exchange for your room) tell your father and his girlfriend you want your things replaced and the harassment to stop, file a police report, attach it to the homeowner's claim you should do, tell your father's girlfriend to keep her dogs and herself away from you, get a lock for the room you rent. Look for other places to rent a room and then move. Ignore the trash-digging girlfriend at all cost. She sounds unstable. Who waits around the door to listen in or goes through the garbage? Nobody sane does that.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1it8wv
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Do you have a rental agreement or is it just a family 'you can live here, but pay me money' type deal?
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File a police report and tell your dad you are going to make a claim against the homeowner's insurance or they need to pay up. Then move. There are other places to rent a room. What is your father doing about his girlfriend's campaign of harassment against you? Her dogs sound unruly and have got to be tearing the house up as well. Surely he doesn't want to live like that either? Tell your landlord whom you are paying (father or not he's acting like a landlord since he taking money in exchange for your room) tell your father and his girlfriend you want your things replaced and the harassment to stop, file a police report, attach it to the homeowner's claim you should do, tell your father's girlfriend to keep her dogs and herself away from you, get a lock for the room you rent. Look for other places to rent a room and then move. Ignore the trash-digging girlfriend at all cost. She sounds unstable. Who waits around the door to listen in or goes through the garbage? Nobody sane does that.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
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> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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File a police report and tell your dad you are going to make a claim against the homeowner's insurance or they need to pay up. Then move. There are other places to rent a room. What is your father doing about his girlfriend's campaign of harassment against you? Her dogs sound unruly and have got to be tearing the house up as well. Surely he doesn't want to live like that either? Tell your landlord whom you are paying (father or not he's acting like a landlord since he taking money in exchange for your room) tell your father and his girlfriend you want your things replaced and the harassment to stop, file a police report, attach it to the homeowner's claim you should do, tell your father's girlfriend to keep her dogs and herself away from you, get a lock for the room you rent. Look for other places to rent a room and then move. Ignore the trash-digging girlfriend at all cost. She sounds unstable. Who waits around the door to listen in or goes through the garbage? Nobody sane does that.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Get a motion activated camera for your bedroom. Put it up high so she can’t say the dogs got at it. If she is never suppose to be in your room then she has no grounds to complain about it.
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
Original Post:
> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1iqlg4
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Do you have a rental agreement or is it just a family 'you can live here, but pay me money' type deal?
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> someone broke into my place and destroyed a bunch of my stuff Call the cops.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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> someone broke into my place and destroyed a bunch of my stuff Call the cops.
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
Original Post:
> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Can you possibly install a lock on your door and or get some security cameras set up in the meantime? Can you also look into renters insurance or at least itemize and location/time-stamp photograph every item of value?
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Lock your door, only be at home when your dad is there. Also, you need a nanny cam with recording.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1jaczl
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Do you have a rental agreement or is it just a family 'you can live here, but pay me money' type deal?
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Can you possibly install a lock on your door and or get some security cameras set up in the meantime? Can you also look into renters insurance or at least itemize and location/time-stamp photograph every item of value?
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Can you possibly install a lock on your door and or get some security cameras set up in the meantime? Can you also look into renters insurance or at least itemize and location/time-stamp photograph every item of value?
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Have a serious chat with your dad & set surveillance in your room as a defence
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
Original Post:
> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Can you possibly install a lock on your door and or get some security cameras set up in the meantime? Can you also look into renters insurance or at least itemize and location/time-stamp photograph every item of value?
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1jxttx
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Lock your door, only be at home when your dad is there. Also, you need a nanny cam with recording.
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You are a tenant. You have tenant rights, which means that you can protect your property. Start by putting an external lock on lock on your door.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1imkyc
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Lock your door, only be at home when your dad is there. Also, you need a nanny cam with recording.
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Do you have a rental agreement or is it just a family 'you can live here, but pay me money' type deal?
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
Original Post:
> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Lock your door, only be at home when your dad is there. Also, you need a nanny cam with recording.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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You are a tenant. You have tenant rights, which means that you can protect your property. Start by putting an external lock on lock on your door.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1jxttx
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Have a serious chat with your dad & set surveillance in your room as a defence
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You are a tenant. You have tenant rights, which means that you can protect your property. Start by putting an external lock on lock on your door.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1jxttx
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You should start with a lock and maybe even a disguised motion camera
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You are a tenant. You have tenant rights, which means that you can protect your property. Start by putting an external lock on lock on your door.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
Original Post:
> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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You are a tenant. You have tenant rights, which means that you can protect your property. Start by putting an external lock on lock on your door.
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
Original Post:
> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1ia6fo
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Have a serious chat with your dad & set surveillance in your room as a defence
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
Original Post:
> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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h1ia6fo
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You should start with a lock and maybe even a disguised motion camera
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
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> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend. My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Can you put a lock on your door? And get a security camera for your room so fi she breaks in/damages you have proof?
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Author: /u/Trefiddyy91
Title: **I rent a room in my dad's house and am constantly being harrased by his girlfriend.**
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> My dad and I never had much of a relationship while I was growing up. Weve reconnected though me being an adult in my 20s and i actually rent a room in his house. This brings me to his girlfriend.. > > She for whatever reason is in a constant state of aggression with me and is constantly telling my dad lies about me and will literally go through my garbage once thrown out. Go through my room once I leave for work. She'll post up for hours right by my door just trying to listen in on what I'm doing! I'm very much an introvert and am content hanging out in my room when I'm home and just playing video games alone or whatever. I keep to myself is what I'm getting at I guess.. > > Tonight though I came home from work to find my room ransacked my gaming headphones, multiple pairs of shoes, my pillows, all destroyed. Many things are just missing and I know she's going to just blame her dogs. Which nay be partly true but it doesn't make it okay by any means. Regardless though my remote I know for a fact I left high up on my dresser when I left where it couldn't be reached. Also my headphones literally have no chew marks but the cord is severed in one spot. > > She doesn't work, she doesn't contribute anything financially to the household. Whereas I pay my rent and stay in my lane. I like living here because it's literally down the road from my job and I battle with extreme bouts of depression and don't want to live alone for fear of falling completely into seclusion from the world.. > > Sorry for the long post if anyone has any thoughts or advice please let me know. .
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Landlord billed us $200 as a late fee on our rent, but we have receipts from our bank that says it was paid on time. What can we do? We live in VA. Our rent is due on the 3rd of every month, and we set an automatic rent payment through our bank to go out on the 1st of the month. We have never been late on rent. there have been a few instances where we paid the rent/utilities, but there were still remaining charges of like $40 for "services and fees" where the office would call us to ask for payment. We always paid this as well ​ This month, specifically on the 7th, we found a 14-day notice because we failed to pay rent taped to our door. The letter said we did not pay rent on the 3rd. We pulled up our bank statements, and it showed the rent being withdrawn from the account on the 1st as always, but we were simply told that they did not receive it, so it must have been a problem on our end. ​ We asked why no one called to let us know that there was a hold-up in the payment process before we would have to pay a late fee. They told us that they "meant to" notify on the 4th by taping the note on our door then, but that they were too busy and couldn't get to it. ​ We asked why they did not call or email us, and they replied that they have "always communicated" by leaving notes on the door. There have been prior incidents where notes about pest control or security inspections on alarm systems were blown off our door by wind, so we never knew about these things until those employees showed up to perform the job. We have asked before to please email us instead to avoid this, and they said they would, but it never changed. We kept trying to understand why we were being pinned with the bill if everything seemed fine according to our statements, and that they failed to give us any chance to verify or correct it, but they essentially spoke in circles and kept saying "well we didn't receive it, so it's late" ​ Is there anything we can do at this point?
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Check with your bank on how the payment was actually sent out. Most "epay" systems are actually mailing the majority of payments and a very small percentage of those do get lost or delayed in the mail. (They mail a certified check and ACH the funds out of your account on the day of scheduled delivery. When I worked at a credit union I was told they do this so they can make interest money during the float period until the checks are cleared.) When I worked at a credit union our epay vendor would actually cover late fees for mailed payments not received on time, but you had to let us know about the problem, then we'd have to file a case with the vendor to a) get the lost check stopped and either resent or refunded to your account and b) get the late fee amount credited. With our vendor it would all be resolved in about a week. If your banks epay vendor won't credit you the amount of the late fee, you should argue with the landlord via email now and if necessary via small claims after you move out that "didn't get around to it" is not a valid reason to not let you know your payment was not received in a timely manner and they shouldn't charge you a late fee for a payment you didn't know was delayed.
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Makes me wonder if your bank mails the check, as opposed to an ACH? Many banks have a bill pay service where they mail the check instead.
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