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Landlord billed us $200 as a late fee on our rent, but we have receipts from our bank that says it was paid on time. What can we do? We live in VA. Our rent is due on the 3rd of every month, and we set an automatic rent payment through our bank to go out on the 1st of the month. We have never been late on rent. there have been a few instances where we paid the rent/utilities, but there were still remaining charges of like $40 for "services and fees" where the office would call us to ask for payment. We always paid this as well ​ This month, specifically on the 7th, we found a 14-day notice because we failed to pay rent taped to our door. The letter said we did not pay rent on the 3rd. We pulled up our bank statements, and it showed the rent being withdrawn from the account on the 1st as always, but we were simply told that they did not receive it, so it must have been a problem on our end. ​ We asked why no one called to let us know that there was a hold-up in the payment process before we would have to pay a late fee. They told us that they "meant to" notify on the 4th by taping the note on our door then, but that they were too busy and couldn't get to it. ​ We asked why they did not call or email us, and they replied that they have "always communicated" by leaving notes on the door. There have been prior incidents where notes about pest control or security inspections on alarm systems were blown off our door by wind, so we never knew about these things until those employees showed up to perform the job. We have asked before to please email us instead to avoid this, and they said they would, but it never changed. We kept trying to understand why we were being pinned with the bill if everything seemed fine according to our statements, and that they failed to give us any chance to verify or correct it, but they essentially spoke in circles and kept saying "well we didn't receive it, so it's late" ​ Is there anything we can do at this point?
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Explain to your landlord before you accept the late fee is due to a fault on your end, they are going to have to show you a bank statement on their end showing the date the payment was received and they will need a letter from their bank that states that any delay in funds is due to the originating institution.
I would dispute the charge and say the landlord is claiming he never got it. Have them run a trace on the money and see exactly where it went. I am betting on he wants you out of there for some stupid reason and is trying to do this bullshit. Keep everything he sends you and make sure you document everything. He sounds as bad as mine.
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Landlord billed us $200 as a late fee on our rent, but we have receipts from our bank that says it was paid on time. What can we do? We live in VA. Our rent is due on the 3rd of every month, and we set an automatic rent payment through our bank to go out on the 1st of the month. We have never been late on rent. there have been a few instances where we paid the rent/utilities, but there were still remaining charges of like $40 for "services and fees" where the office would call us to ask for payment. We always paid this as well ​ This month, specifically on the 7th, we found a 14-day notice because we failed to pay rent taped to our door. The letter said we did not pay rent on the 3rd. We pulled up our bank statements, and it showed the rent being withdrawn from the account on the 1st as always, but we were simply told that they did not receive it, so it must have been a problem on our end. ​ We asked why no one called to let us know that there was a hold-up in the payment process before we would have to pay a late fee. They told us that they "meant to" notify on the 4th by taping the note on our door then, but that they were too busy and couldn't get to it. ​ We asked why they did not call or email us, and they replied that they have "always communicated" by leaving notes on the door. There have been prior incidents where notes about pest control or security inspections on alarm systems were blown off our door by wind, so we never knew about these things until those employees showed up to perform the job. We have asked before to please email us instead to avoid this, and they said they would, but it never changed. We kept trying to understand why we were being pinned with the bill if everything seemed fine according to our statements, and that they failed to give us any chance to verify or correct it, but they essentially spoke in circles and kept saying "well we didn't receive it, so it's late" ​ Is there anything we can do at this point?
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I would dispute the charge and say the landlord is claiming he never got it. Have them run a trace on the money and see exactly where it went. I am betting on he wants you out of there for some stupid reason and is trying to do this bullshit. Keep everything he sends you and make sure you document everything. He sounds as bad as mine.
From your end, if this is your routine methods of payment, then you have fulfilled your end - especially since they didn't even tell you they never received it. 1. confirm with your bank it's sent 2. confirm it was sent to the right person 3. show this proof in written form (as certified mail) to the landlord 4. If all else fails, take it to small claims court. I'm a landlord and I would drop the late fees immediately. Hell, with a good tenant, I'll text them the day it was late and ask if everything was ok and then post a formal written notification it was late as a reminder. Usually if it's a rare occasion, I don't even enforce the late fee.
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Landlord billed us $200 as a late fee on our rent, but we have receipts from our bank that says it was paid on time. What can we do? We live in VA. Our rent is due on the 3rd of every month, and we set an automatic rent payment through our bank to go out on the 1st of the month. We have never been late on rent. there have been a few instances where we paid the rent/utilities, but there were still remaining charges of like $40 for "services and fees" where the office would call us to ask for payment. We always paid this as well ​ This month, specifically on the 7th, we found a 14-day notice because we failed to pay rent taped to our door. The letter said we did not pay rent on the 3rd. We pulled up our bank statements, and it showed the rent being withdrawn from the account on the 1st as always, but we were simply told that they did not receive it, so it must have been a problem on our end. ​ We asked why no one called to let us know that there was a hold-up in the payment process before we would have to pay a late fee. They told us that they "meant to" notify on the 4th by taping the note on our door then, but that they were too busy and couldn't get to it. ​ We asked why they did not call or email us, and they replied that they have "always communicated" by leaving notes on the door. There have been prior incidents where notes about pest control or security inspections on alarm systems were blown off our door by wind, so we never knew about these things until those employees showed up to perform the job. We have asked before to please email us instead to avoid this, and they said they would, but it never changed. We kept trying to understand why we were being pinned with the bill if everything seemed fine according to our statements, and that they failed to give us any chance to verify or correct it, but they essentially spoke in circles and kept saying "well we didn't receive it, so it's late" ​ Is there anything we can do at this point?
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In our state, regardless of what the lease says, there are certain things that cannot be waived. Of particular note is that late fees cannot exceed 8% of the total due amount and must be correctly invoiced in a certain way in a set number of days following notice of default of deficiency. Like, I saw a lease that said the late fee was $20, plus a dollar for every day any balance remained unpaid and would be expected with the next's months rent even without an invoice or notice. Some people will use their implied position of authority to pray on ignorance because it historically has worked for them.
Okay so question... You set up bill pay through your bank, right? Now, a lot of banks do this and I'm assuming yours does it too... When you do bill pay via your bank it isn't an electronic payment. Your bank prints a check and mails it. Do you think the check got lost in the mail? I'd call your bank and see if they can tell whether the check they cut was cashed or not.
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If my landlord just emails me saying “got the rent check, thanks” each month, does that “count” as a receipt? And would be a good record of my payments? Location: New York Title basically covers it. Landlord only wants cash or check payments. Annoying, but whatever...as long as I get confirmation from him so there’s no possibility of claims I didn’t pay rent. I could use a “normal” check where I have my own receipt, and where he would cash it so there’d be a bank record that he cashed it. But then I have to wait for him to cash the check and he takes forever to do so. So I’d love to leave cash or a bank check. But I just want to know that if I text or email him asking if he got the payment that this “counts” as a receipt
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--- > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb --- *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.** --- ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.*** --- Author: /u/randomdouchebag55555 Title: **If my landlord just emails me saying “got the rent check, thanks” each month, does that “count” as a receipt? And would be a good record of my payments?** Original Post: > Title basically covers it. Landlord only wants cash or check payments. Annoying, but whatever...as long as I get confirmation from him so there’s no possibility of claims I didn’t pay rent. > > I could use a “normal” check where I have my own receipt, and where he would cash it so there’d be a bank record that he cashed it. > > But then I have to wait for him to cash the check and he takes forever to do so. > > So I’d love to leave cash or a bank check. But I just want to know that if I text or email him asking if he got the payment that this “counts” as a receipt --- LocationBot 4.6319918 & 17/64ths | Report Issues
It's not a receipt, but it is an acknowledgement that you've paid him. I would imagine that's pretty similar in principle.
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If my landlord just emails me saying “got the rent check, thanks” each month, does that “count” as a receipt? And would be a good record of my payments? Location: New York Title basically covers it. Landlord only wants cash or check payments. Annoying, but whatever...as long as I get confirmation from him so there’s no possibility of claims I didn’t pay rent. I could use a “normal” check where I have my own receipt, and where he would cash it so there’d be a bank record that he cashed it. But then I have to wait for him to cash the check and he takes forever to do so. So I’d love to leave cash or a bank check. But I just want to know that if I text or email him asking if he got the payment that this “counts” as a receipt
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--- > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb --- *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.** --- ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.*** --- Author: /u/randomdouchebag55555 Title: **If my landlord just emails me saying “got the rent check, thanks” each month, does that “count” as a receipt? And would be a good record of my payments?** Original Post: > Title basically covers it. Landlord only wants cash or check payments. Annoying, but whatever...as long as I get confirmation from him so there’s no possibility of claims I didn’t pay rent. > > I could use a “normal” check where I have my own receipt, and where he would cash it so there’d be a bank record that he cashed it. > > But then I have to wait for him to cash the check and he takes forever to do so. > > So I’d love to leave cash or a bank check. But I just want to know that if I text or email him asking if he got the payment that this “counts” as a receipt --- LocationBot 4.6319918 & 17/64ths | Report Issues
This is more receipt than I’ve ever gotten anywhere I’ve ever lived. Depending on why you need a “receipt” though, bank statements showing an image of the deposited check are likely better evidence than even a formal receipt though, as that shows the money transferred from you to the landlord. A receipt only shows you wrote the check and they received the check; if the check bounces (since you mention elsewhere that you’re “living on the margins” and that could potentially happen), you still need to make the rent payment. Showing that the check was deposited shows that.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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There are definitely organizations that will pick her up, with security, and take her to the embassy. You can call and set it up for her there was a doc on it. I'm sure some googling will help you find the one nearest her.
Do you have the means to travel to Pakistan under guise of a family visit and then escort her to the embassy? If you are male, you would probably be able to go places with her without anyone suspecting anything. I know two plane tickets would be quite expensive. Do you know any family or friends who would be willing do that?
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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Help her get her birth certificate. Contact the bureau of vital statistics for the state she was born in and see what it will take to get her birth certificate. Once she has that, things will be a lot easier when dealing with US government.
There are definitely organizations that will pick her up, with security, and take her to the embassy. You can call and set it up for her there was a doc on it. I'm sure some googling will help you find the one nearest her.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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Help her get her birth certificate. Contact the bureau of vital statistics for the state she was born in and see what it will take to get her birth certificate. Once she has that, things will be a lot easier when dealing with US government.
i don’t know how much you can do without any official paperwork with her info on it but it might be worth looking into how you can replace her vital records like her birth certificate https://www.usa.gov/replace-vital-documents#item-36582
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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American citizen services at the embassy or consulate for the United states. They will speak Pakistani. Call the embassy and ask to speak to an operator. Explain that you're an American and you're in danger. No matter who picks up the phone, say these things.
Help her get her birth certificate. Contact the bureau of vital statistics for the state she was born in and see what it will take to get her birth certificate. Once she has that, things will be a lot easier when dealing with US government.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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You need to coordinate for your cousin w an aid group so she can run away w them and get to the embassy. She needs to find her birth certificate first. Other than that there’s no real option.
Help her get her birth certificate. Contact the bureau of vital statistics for the state she was born in and see what it will take to get her birth certificate. Once she has that, things will be a lot easier when dealing with US government.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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Where is she in Sindh? If in and around Karachi, she can go anywhere even by herself using Careem - it’s very safe and took it this past summer when I️ was there. Get the birth certificate. Once she has that, the embassy will take care of her as soon as she gets it. Without it and no other form to show citizenship, the embassy can review this as a fraud case - unless she goes there seeking asylum and then works with the embassy to retrieve the birth certificate - however think that will be a longer process. P.s order multiple copies of the document also in case one gets lost or damaged.
There are definitely organizations that will pick her up, with security, and take her to the embassy. You can call and set it up for her there was a doc on it. I'm sure some googling will help you find the one nearest her.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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i don’t know how much you can do without any official paperwork with her info on it but it might be worth looking into how you can replace her vital records like her birth certificate https://www.usa.gov/replace-vital-documents#item-36582
Where is she in Sindh? If in and around Karachi, she can go anywhere even by herself using Careem - it’s very safe and took it this past summer when I️ was there. Get the birth certificate. Once she has that, the embassy will take care of her as soon as she gets it. Without it and no other form to show citizenship, the embassy can review this as a fraud case - unless she goes there seeking asylum and then works with the embassy to retrieve the birth certificate - however think that will be a longer process. P.s order multiple copies of the document also in case one gets lost or damaged.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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Where is she in Sindh? If in and around Karachi, she can go anywhere even by herself using Careem - it’s very safe and took it this past summer when I️ was there. Get the birth certificate. Once she has that, the embassy will take care of her as soon as she gets it. Without it and no other form to show citizenship, the embassy can review this as a fraud case - unless she goes there seeking asylum and then works with the embassy to retrieve the birth certificate - however think that will be a longer process. P.s order multiple copies of the document also in case one gets lost or damaged.
American citizen services at the embassy or consulate for the United states. They will speak Pakistani. Call the embassy and ask to speak to an operator. Explain that you're an American and you're in danger. No matter who picks up the phone, say these things.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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Where is she in Sindh? If in and around Karachi, she can go anywhere even by herself using Careem - it’s very safe and took it this past summer when I️ was there. Get the birth certificate. Once she has that, the embassy will take care of her as soon as she gets it. Without it and no other form to show citizenship, the embassy can review this as a fraud case - unless she goes there seeking asylum and then works with the embassy to retrieve the birth certificate - however think that will be a longer process. P.s order multiple copies of the document also in case one gets lost or damaged.
You need to coordinate for your cousin w an aid group so she can run away w them and get to the embassy. She needs to find her birth certificate first. Other than that there’s no real option.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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i don’t know how much you can do without any official paperwork with her info on it but it might be worth looking into how you can replace her vital records like her birth certificate https://www.usa.gov/replace-vital-documents#item-36582
>She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. Talk to the U.S. State Department, and ask her what state and city or county she was born in so you can help her obtain a copy of her birth certificate. Those are issued by states, not the federal government. Certified copies of birth certificates aren't free, but they're relatively affordable so you can pony up the money to help her buy one. Until you can get a copy of her birth certificate and PROVE she's an actual bonafide 100% citizen that the government is required to care about, your friend won't have any luck.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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>She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. Talk to the U.S. State Department, and ask her what state and city or county she was born in so you can help her obtain a copy of her birth certificate. Those are issued by states, not the federal government. Certified copies of birth certificates aren't free, but they're relatively affordable so you can pony up the money to help her buy one. Until you can get a copy of her birth certificate and PROVE she's an actual bonafide 100% citizen that the government is required to care about, your friend won't have any luck.
American citizen services at the embassy or consulate for the United states. They will speak Pakistani. Call the embassy and ask to speak to an operator. Explain that you're an American and you're in danger. No matter who picks up the phone, say these things.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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>She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. Talk to the U.S. State Department, and ask her what state and city or county she was born in so you can help her obtain a copy of her birth certificate. Those are issued by states, not the federal government. Certified copies of birth certificates aren't free, but they're relatively affordable so you can pony up the money to help her buy one. Until you can get a copy of her birth certificate and PROVE she's an actual bonafide 100% citizen that the government is required to care about, your friend won't have any luck.
There is a consulate in Karachi. She must get there,
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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>She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. Talk to the U.S. State Department, and ask her what state and city or county she was born in so you can help her obtain a copy of her birth certificate. Those are issued by states, not the federal government. Certified copies of birth certificates aren't free, but they're relatively affordable so you can pony up the money to help her buy one. Until you can get a copy of her birth certificate and PROVE she's an actual bonafide 100% citizen that the government is required to care about, your friend won't have any luck.
You need to coordinate for your cousin w an aid group so she can run away w them and get to the embassy. She needs to find her birth certificate first. Other than that there’s no real option.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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American citizen services at the embassy or consulate for the United states. They will speak Pakistani. Call the embassy and ask to speak to an operator. Explain that you're an American and you're in danger. No matter who picks up the phone, say these things.
You need to coordinate for your cousin w an aid group so she can run away w them and get to the embassy. She needs to find her birth certificate first. Other than that there’s no real option.
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US citizen cousin (16F) is abroad and under heavy pressure to get married by parents. She asked for my help. My cousin is 16 years old. I'm 22 and live in MA. She was born in MA to non-citizen parents and has not been in the US since she was 1 year old. But she was born in the US so she is a US citizen. But she doesn't speak any English. She currently lives in Pakistan and told me that she is under heavy pressure to get married to someone that is picked by her parents. She asked me to help her somehow get out of that situation and if possible come to the US. She doesn't have a passport or a US birth certificate. I know there is one, but she doesn't have it herself. Either her parents destroyed it or they have it. She lives in a rural area, is generally heavily montitored and has a very limited internet access. She also can't go to the embassy which is in Islamabad, she lives in the Sindh province. Who do I contact here to get her the help she needs? Is there a hope that she can come here? I'm happy to pay for her plane ticket.
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You need to coordinate for your cousin w an aid group so she can run away w them and get to the embassy. She needs to find her birth certificate first. Other than that there’s no real option.
There is a consulate in Karachi. She must get there,
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A national chain store (tire shop) street raced my car, destroyed it, lied and covered their tracks about it, and it was all caught on my dash cam I have an attorney in this matter so a lot of fine details can’t be mentioned. The tire shop in question raced my car and blew my transmission, the employees and manager are all heard in camera rehearsing their stories and never planned on telling me. They erased all the cars trouble codes so when I picked up the car there was no indication of an issue. I pull onto a very busy highway the store is located on and nearly caused an accident because my car didn’t accelerate or drive like it should’ve. Long story short; I have a dash camera and to my surprise there’s 43 min of video of my car being abused and then destroyed (including audio) I’ve filed a police report and a comprehensive claim with my insurance, but the car is only worth around $5000. My dad retained an attorney, but I haven’t been able to speak to him for more than 60 seconds. It been 3 weeks, and I don’t have rental reimbursement on my insurance policy so it’s costing me quite a bit of money. I’m going to be suing this company for a lot of the financial damages I’m already incurring in the long term, but I need these people to be accountable in the short term. I’m thinking of selling the video to a media outlet, because I’m getting desperate. I’m wondering if anyone has advice on how I should proceed?
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You should resolve whatever issue is preventing you from speaking with your attorney (it is not clear from your story whether this is on your end or theirs), then speak with your attorney and follow their advice. Very little that we could say here will be nearly as helpful as that.
OP, a lot of people post here saying they have video footage or other evidence related to their cases, wondering if they should take their evidence to press. This subreddit has a rule against advising you to do that and for good reasons. If your attorney thinks that it is in your strategic interest to do so, then you should follow his or her advice. Until then, consider that your video footage a valuable bargaining chip and understand that it may not be worth as much if spent out of short term desperation. For example, the defendant may ultimately be willing to make concessions to keep that video footage private. At face value, it seems like you may end up with a good outcome here, but it's not guaranteed and it's unlikely to be fast. So (1) back up that footage. (2) Get your attorney's attention (or get a new attorney) and then do not take any action without their advice, and (3) figure out how to live, travel, and keep your cash flow sustainable in the medium term because resolution may take a very long time.
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A national chain store (tire shop) street raced my car, destroyed it, lied and covered their tracks about it, and it was all caught on my dash cam I have an attorney in this matter so a lot of fine details can’t be mentioned. The tire shop in question raced my car and blew my transmission, the employees and manager are all heard in camera rehearsing their stories and never planned on telling me. They erased all the cars trouble codes so when I picked up the car there was no indication of an issue. I pull onto a very busy highway the store is located on and nearly caused an accident because my car didn’t accelerate or drive like it should’ve. Long story short; I have a dash camera and to my surprise there’s 43 min of video of my car being abused and then destroyed (including audio) I’ve filed a police report and a comprehensive claim with my insurance, but the car is only worth around $5000. My dad retained an attorney, but I haven’t been able to speak to him for more than 60 seconds. It been 3 weeks, and I don’t have rental reimbursement on my insurance policy so it’s costing me quite a bit of money. I’m going to be suing this company for a lot of the financial damages I’m already incurring in the long term, but I need these people to be accountable in the short term. I’m thinking of selling the video to a media outlet, because I’m getting desperate. I’m wondering if anyone has advice on how I should proceed?
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Releasing the footage can complicate your case. You should be discussing any strategies with your lawyer
OP, a lot of people post here saying they have video footage or other evidence related to their cases, wondering if they should take their evidence to press. This subreddit has a rule against advising you to do that and for good reasons. If your attorney thinks that it is in your strategic interest to do so, then you should follow his or her advice. Until then, consider that your video footage a valuable bargaining chip and understand that it may not be worth as much if spent out of short term desperation. For example, the defendant may ultimately be willing to make concessions to keep that video footage private. At face value, it seems like you may end up with a good outcome here, but it's not guaranteed and it's unlikely to be fast. So (1) back up that footage. (2) Get your attorney's attention (or get a new attorney) and then do not take any action without their advice, and (3) figure out how to live, travel, and keep your cash flow sustainable in the medium term because resolution may take a very long time.
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A national chain store (tire shop) street raced my car, destroyed it, lied and covered their tracks about it, and it was all caught on my dash cam I have an attorney in this matter so a lot of fine details can’t be mentioned. The tire shop in question raced my car and blew my transmission, the employees and manager are all heard in camera rehearsing their stories and never planned on telling me. They erased all the cars trouble codes so when I picked up the car there was no indication of an issue. I pull onto a very busy highway the store is located on and nearly caused an accident because my car didn’t accelerate or drive like it should’ve. Long story short; I have a dash camera and to my surprise there’s 43 min of video of my car being abused and then destroyed (including audio) I’ve filed a police report and a comprehensive claim with my insurance, but the car is only worth around $5000. My dad retained an attorney, but I haven’t been able to speak to him for more than 60 seconds. It been 3 weeks, and I don’t have rental reimbursement on my insurance policy so it’s costing me quite a bit of money. I’m going to be suing this company for a lot of the financial damages I’m already incurring in the long term, but I need these people to be accountable in the short term. I’m thinking of selling the video to a media outlet, because I’m getting desperate. I’m wondering if anyone has advice on how I should proceed?
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Legal action will not be fast if the store doesn't want to play ball. A call to the chain's corporate office may speed things along.
OP, a lot of people post here saying they have video footage or other evidence related to their cases, wondering if they should take their evidence to press. This subreddit has a rule against advising you to do that and for good reasons. If your attorney thinks that it is in your strategic interest to do so, then you should follow his or her advice. Until then, consider that your video footage a valuable bargaining chip and understand that it may not be worth as much if spent out of short term desperation. For example, the defendant may ultimately be willing to make concessions to keep that video footage private. At face value, it seems like you may end up with a good outcome here, but it's not guaranteed and it's unlikely to be fast. So (1) back up that footage. (2) Get your attorney's attention (or get a new attorney) and then do not take any action without their advice, and (3) figure out how to live, travel, and keep your cash flow sustainable in the medium term because resolution may take a very long time.
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A national chain store (tire shop) street raced my car, destroyed it, lied and covered their tracks about it, and it was all caught on my dash cam I have an attorney in this matter so a lot of fine details can’t be mentioned. The tire shop in question raced my car and blew my transmission, the employees and manager are all heard in camera rehearsing their stories and never planned on telling me. They erased all the cars trouble codes so when I picked up the car there was no indication of an issue. I pull onto a very busy highway the store is located on and nearly caused an accident because my car didn’t accelerate or drive like it should’ve. Long story short; I have a dash camera and to my surprise there’s 43 min of video of my car being abused and then destroyed (including audio) I’ve filed a police report and a comprehensive claim with my insurance, but the car is only worth around $5000. My dad retained an attorney, but I haven’t been able to speak to him for more than 60 seconds. It been 3 weeks, and I don’t have rental reimbursement on my insurance policy so it’s costing me quite a bit of money. I’m going to be suing this company for a lot of the financial damages I’m already incurring in the long term, but I need these people to be accountable in the short term. I’m thinking of selling the video to a media outlet, because I’m getting desperate. I’m wondering if anyone has advice on how I should proceed?
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Please don't undermine your attorney by doing anything like this. S/he can strategize with you how to use this best. Lawsuits often take a while, and you're just going to have to sit tight and be patient. Do not be the Kramer to your Jackie Chiles!
Are you the client or is your dad? If your dad retained the attorney maybe you need to talk to him.
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A national chain store (tire shop) street raced my car, destroyed it, lied and covered their tracks about it, and it was all caught on my dash cam I have an attorney in this matter so a lot of fine details can’t be mentioned. The tire shop in question raced my car and blew my transmission, the employees and manager are all heard in camera rehearsing their stories and never planned on telling me. They erased all the cars trouble codes so when I picked up the car there was no indication of an issue. I pull onto a very busy highway the store is located on and nearly caused an accident because my car didn’t accelerate or drive like it should’ve. Long story short; I have a dash camera and to my surprise there’s 43 min of video of my car being abused and then destroyed (including audio) I’ve filed a police report and a comprehensive claim with my insurance, but the car is only worth around $5000. My dad retained an attorney, but I haven’t been able to speak to him for more than 60 seconds. It been 3 weeks, and I don’t have rental reimbursement on my insurance policy so it’s costing me quite a bit of money. I’m going to be suing this company for a lot of the financial damages I’m already incurring in the long term, but I need these people to be accountable in the short term. I’m thinking of selling the video to a media outlet, because I’m getting desperate. I’m wondering if anyone has advice on how I should proceed?
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If you've filed a claim with your insurance company, they will handle Subrogation against the tire shop for the value of your car. Talk to your adjuster and see if they can include your out of pocket expenses as well. If they can't then I'd follow up with an attorney about filing suit for your expenses. The tire shop is likely going to try and deny liability and pass it off to the employee, but that's something that their insurance and your insurance will argue about. Have you gotten paid by your insurance company yet?
Please don't undermine your attorney by doing anything like this. S/he can strategize with you how to use this best. Lawsuits often take a while, and you're just going to have to sit tight and be patient. Do not be the Kramer to your Jackie Chiles!
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A national chain store (tire shop) street raced my car, destroyed it, lied and covered their tracks about it, and it was all caught on my dash cam I have an attorney in this matter so a lot of fine details can’t be mentioned. The tire shop in question raced my car and blew my transmission, the employees and manager are all heard in camera rehearsing their stories and never planned on telling me. They erased all the cars trouble codes so when I picked up the car there was no indication of an issue. I pull onto a very busy highway the store is located on and nearly caused an accident because my car didn’t accelerate or drive like it should’ve. Long story short; I have a dash camera and to my surprise there’s 43 min of video of my car being abused and then destroyed (including audio) I’ve filed a police report and a comprehensive claim with my insurance, but the car is only worth around $5000. My dad retained an attorney, but I haven’t been able to speak to him for more than 60 seconds. It been 3 weeks, and I don’t have rental reimbursement on my insurance policy so it’s costing me quite a bit of money. I’m going to be suing this company for a lot of the financial damages I’m already incurring in the long term, but I need these people to be accountable in the short term. I’m thinking of selling the video to a media outlet, because I’m getting desperate. I’m wondering if anyone has advice on how I should proceed?
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If you've filed a claim with your insurance company, they will handle Subrogation against the tire shop for the value of your car. Talk to your adjuster and see if they can include your out of pocket expenses as well. If they can't then I'd follow up with an attorney about filing suit for your expenses. The tire shop is likely going to try and deny liability and pass it off to the employee, but that's something that their insurance and your insurance will argue about. Have you gotten paid by your insurance company yet?
Are you the client or is your dad? If your dad retained the attorney maybe you need to talk to him.
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A national chain store (tire shop) street raced my car, destroyed it, lied and covered their tracks about it, and it was all caught on my dash cam I have an attorney in this matter so a lot of fine details can’t be mentioned. The tire shop in question raced my car and blew my transmission, the employees and manager are all heard in camera rehearsing their stories and never planned on telling me. They erased all the cars trouble codes so when I picked up the car there was no indication of an issue. I pull onto a very busy highway the store is located on and nearly caused an accident because my car didn’t accelerate or drive like it should’ve. Long story short; I have a dash camera and to my surprise there’s 43 min of video of my car being abused and then destroyed (including audio) I’ve filed a police report and a comprehensive claim with my insurance, but the car is only worth around $5000. My dad retained an attorney, but I haven’t been able to speak to him for more than 60 seconds. It been 3 weeks, and I don’t have rental reimbursement on my insurance policy so it’s costing me quite a bit of money. I’m going to be suing this company for a lot of the financial damages I’m already incurring in the long term, but I need these people to be accountable in the short term. I’m thinking of selling the video to a media outlet, because I’m getting desperate. I’m wondering if anyone has advice on how I should proceed?
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(1) If the car is only worth $5000, then that's really about all you're going to get in damages. I would add onto that whatever work they did on your car, cost of getting the problems diagnosed someplace else, cost of the tow, etc.... Depending on your state, you may get some sort of multiple for punitive damages or "unfair and deceptive trade practices" (which, in my state, gives you treble damages if you can prove it). (2) If your insurance covers you, then your damages are really just your deductible. (3) So, it's not clear if an attorney even makes sense. Right now, I'd be talking mainly with my insurance company and not so much worrying about the attorney. (4) that said, the attorney should be able to advise you about what you do with the dashcam footage. I'd think the tire shop would be very interested in owning all copies of that video. That's a discussion that should be had between the attorney and the tire shop -- if you try it yourself, you might end up committing extortion. (5) you haven't said whether this shop was part of a national chain. If it is, then corporate may be in the best position (a) to go after the people involved (e.g. firing them), and (b) making you whole.
There's usually some form of deceptive and unfair trade practices act in most jurisdictions. These statutes also usually award some form of damages multiplier in case you win. Contact a lawyer to start making demands or else the Tire Store and its Chain is gonna have a baaaddd day. *This is not legal advice and I am not your lawyer nor does this comment create an attorney client relationship.
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My mother wants to drop me out of high school without consent-is this allowed? Hello. I am a 14 year old male and I was wondering if my mom could actually do this. I do want to continue my high school education, because I don't want to spend my life working odd jobs and hard labor. The reason my mom wants to do so is that she doesn't want to get letters or texts/emails from the school because I have past due assignments. I know I get myself in that hole, but I turned them in. I, however still want to continue my education. She is saying it's stressing her out. I know she is legitimately worried, but trying to drop me out would make things worse. She says I would have to get a job right after. Basically it's school or a full time job, yet she wants to pull me out of my education. What rights do I have? Thank you for reading.
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Alongside the excellent advice you've already received, I recommend talking to a trusted adult. Maybe that's a counselor or teacher at school. Tell this person what your mom is thinking of doing. They can help you protect yourself far better than internet strangers can.
Is she planning on doing any home school or similar? You are required to be educated but the government lets mom decide how.
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My mother wants to drop me out of high school without consent-is this allowed? Hello. I am a 14 year old male and I was wondering if my mom could actually do this. I do want to continue my high school education, because I don't want to spend my life working odd jobs and hard labor. The reason my mom wants to do so is that she doesn't want to get letters or texts/emails from the school because I have past due assignments. I know I get myself in that hole, but I turned them in. I, however still want to continue my education. She is saying it's stressing her out. I know she is legitimately worried, but trying to drop me out would make things worse. She says I would have to get a job right after. Basically it's school or a full time job, yet she wants to pull me out of my education. What rights do I have? Thank you for reading.
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As others have explained, your mother is legally required to provide you with an education. It's worth pointing out, though,that even if you weren't in school, there are laws which would prevent many employers from hiring you at all. If you did manage to find a job, the number of hours you could work and the kinds of work you could do would be severely limited.
Is she planning on doing any home school or similar? You are required to be educated but the government lets mom decide how.
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My mother wants to drop me out of high school without consent-is this allowed? Hello. I am a 14 year old male and I was wondering if my mom could actually do this. I do want to continue my high school education, because I don't want to spend my life working odd jobs and hard labor. The reason my mom wants to do so is that she doesn't want to get letters or texts/emails from the school because I have past due assignments. I know I get myself in that hole, but I turned them in. I, however still want to continue my education. She is saying it's stressing her out. I know she is legitimately worried, but trying to drop me out would make things worse. She says I would have to get a job right after. Basically it's school or a full time job, yet she wants to pull me out of my education. What rights do I have? Thank you for reading.
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For what its worth, my husband and his brother were given this same choice at the age of 14. My husband moved out, finished high-school, and is now a successful professional in a well-paying field and we own a home. His brother dropped out, and now lives in our attic making minimum wage and is looking to get his GED now in his 30's so he can actually get on a career path that goes somewhere. Getting an education is your best shot at escaping poverty. Don't give that up for anyone.
Not a lawyer but need some INFO question: is your mom threatening to pull you from school if you don’t get your grades up? Seems like she may be saying one thing and OP is hearing another…
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My mother wants to drop me out of high school without consent-is this allowed? Hello. I am a 14 year old male and I was wondering if my mom could actually do this. I do want to continue my high school education, because I don't want to spend my life working odd jobs and hard labor. The reason my mom wants to do so is that she doesn't want to get letters or texts/emails from the school because I have past due assignments. I know I get myself in that hole, but I turned them in. I, however still want to continue my education. She is saying it's stressing her out. I know she is legitimately worried, but trying to drop me out would make things worse. She says I would have to get a job right after. Basically it's school or a full time job, yet she wants to pull me out of my education. What rights do I have? Thank you for reading.
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OP, as far as your future working goes; trade school is an option. Don’t underestimate the money a tradesman can make. Most of the tech schools should have financial aid available, and it’s usually 1 year of schooling. Many also help place you at your first job in said field you’re educated for.
For what its worth, my husband and his brother were given this same choice at the age of 14. My husband moved out, finished high-school, and is now a successful professional in a well-paying field and we own a home. His brother dropped out, and now lives in our attic making minimum wage and is looking to get his GED now in his 30's so he can actually get on a career path that goes somewhere. Getting an education is your best shot at escaping poverty. Don't give that up for anyone.
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My mother wants to drop me out of high school without consent-is this allowed? Hello. I am a 14 year old male and I was wondering if my mom could actually do this. I do want to continue my high school education, because I don't want to spend my life working odd jobs and hard labor. The reason my mom wants to do so is that she doesn't want to get letters or texts/emails from the school because I have past due assignments. I know I get myself in that hole, but I turned them in. I, however still want to continue my education. She is saying it's stressing her out. I know she is legitimately worried, but trying to drop me out would make things worse. She says I would have to get a job right after. Basically it's school or a full time job, yet she wants to pull me out of my education. What rights do I have? Thank you for reading.
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Not a lawyer but need some INFO question: is your mom threatening to pull you from school if you don’t get your grades up? Seems like she may be saying one thing and OP is hearing another…
Please go to your school counselor and let them know what’s happening. Also stay in school. It’s your only way out of living an entire life of poverty. If your mom doesn’t care about your education or future you are going to have to learn to advocate for yourself.
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My mother wants to drop me out of high school without consent-is this allowed? Hello. I am a 14 year old male and I was wondering if my mom could actually do this. I do want to continue my high school education, because I don't want to spend my life working odd jobs and hard labor. The reason my mom wants to do so is that she doesn't want to get letters or texts/emails from the school because I have past due assignments. I know I get myself in that hole, but I turned them in. I, however still want to continue my education. She is saying it's stressing her out. I know she is legitimately worried, but trying to drop me out would make things worse. She says I would have to get a job right after. Basically it's school or a full time job, yet she wants to pull me out of my education. What rights do I have? Thank you for reading.
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Please go to your school counselor and let them know what’s happening. Also stay in school. It’s your only way out of living an entire life of poverty. If your mom doesn’t care about your education or future you are going to have to learn to advocate for yourself.
OP, as far as your future working goes; trade school is an option. Don’t underestimate the money a tradesman can make. Most of the tech schools should have financial aid available, and it’s usually 1 year of schooling. Many also help place you at your first job in said field you’re educated for.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
hb7afah
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School is the first priority, which they were notified. Their misstep in scheduling is no fault of yours and they cannot reasonably expect you to cut class for your shift.
If they scheduled you outside of your documented availability, then escalate this higher in the food chain. Someone above you isn't doing their job, don't accept responsibility or writeups for their error. If you made a mistake in giving them your available work time then you may have to accept the writeup, but also escalating it up the chain that they expect a high schooler to skip school (possibly a crime) to work will get someone's attention.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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Can you find a coworker to cover your shift for you? If so, then you shouldn't have a problem with your manager based on what you posted. If you cannot, and you do not show up due to going to school (which you absolutely should), they can fire you, but honestly, I'd be okay with that. I wouldn't want to work for someone who thinks ditching out on high school due to their scheduling failure is acceptable.
If they scheduled you outside of your documented availability, then escalate this higher in the food chain. Someone above you isn't doing their job, don't accept responsibility or writeups for their error. If you made a mistake in giving them your available work time then you may have to accept the writeup, but also escalating it up the chain that they expect a high schooler to skip school (possibly a crime) to work will get someone's attention.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
hb7afah
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School is the first priority, which they were notified. Their misstep in scheduling is no fault of yours and they cannot reasonably expect you to cut class for your shift.
This is the perfect time to just swing into the administrators office. Not the unit manager. Not the CNA manager. Just clue them into the problem and advise them of the steps you have taken to try to fix the issue. Advise them that missing school is an unexcused absence and is against the law, so you can’t make your shift. Just a heads up if this gets written up and it crosses their desk. I’m sure they will fix it. It feels like a cna schedule maker on a bit of a power trip and not realizing they are screwing around and now may indeed find out.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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Can you find a coworker to cover your shift for you? If so, then you shouldn't have a problem with your manager based on what you posted. If you cannot, and you do not show up due to going to school (which you absolutely should), they can fire you, but honestly, I'd be okay with that. I wouldn't want to work for someone who thinks ditching out on high school due to their scheduling failure is acceptable.
This is the perfect time to just swing into the administrators office. Not the unit manager. Not the CNA manager. Just clue them into the problem and advise them of the steps you have taken to try to fix the issue. Advise them that missing school is an unexcused absence and is against the law, so you can’t make your shift. Just a heads up if this gets written up and it crosses their desk. I’m sure they will fix it. It feels like a cna schedule maker on a bit of a power trip and not realizing they are screwing around and now may indeed find out.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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Not a lawyer Did you get this job thru the school/ program you attend? Talk to the school counselor. They may have made an agreement with the school to schedule employees to attend classes. Even if not, the counselor may either have resources available or at least ability to help you navigate the situation.
This is the perfect time to just swing into the administrators office. Not the unit manager. Not the CNA manager. Just clue them into the problem and advise them of the steps you have taken to try to fix the issue. Advise them that missing school is an unexcused absence and is against the law, so you can’t make your shift. Just a heads up if this gets written up and it crosses their desk. I’m sure they will fix it. It feels like a cna schedule maker on a bit of a power trip and not realizing they are screwing around and now may indeed find out.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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As crass as it sounds, this is a lesson most people get to learn. You put *yourself* before your job. Always. A job will never put you before it's own interests, and you shouldn't put them before yourself either. Try to get it corrected, maybe get your parents involved as you are still in highschool. But, if that fails, companies are painfully understaffed right now, finding another job, even in the same field, is probably your best bet.
Can you find a coworker to cover your shift for you? If so, then you shouldn't have a problem with your manager based on what you posted. If you cannot, and you do not show up due to going to school (which you absolutely should), they can fire you, but honestly, I'd be okay with that. I wouldn't want to work for someone who thinks ditching out on high school due to their scheduling failure is acceptable.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
hb7p67a
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Not a lawyer Did you get this job thru the school/ program you attend? Talk to the school counselor. They may have made an agreement with the school to schedule employees to attend classes. Even if not, the counselor may either have resources available or at least ability to help you navigate the situation.
As crass as it sounds, this is a lesson most people get to learn. You put *yourself* before your job. Always. A job will never put you before it's own interests, and you shouldn't put them before yourself either. Try to get it corrected, maybe get your parents involved as you are still in highschool. But, if that fails, companies are painfully understaffed right now, finding another job, even in the same field, is probably your best bet.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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Not a lawyer Did you get this job thru the school/ program you attend? Talk to the school counselor. They may have made an agreement with the school to schedule employees to attend classes. Even if not, the counselor may either have resources available or at least ability to help you navigate the situation.
This is a red flag. You should call off your shift in compliance with whatever policies and go to school. You may get a write up, they may fire you. If they do, understand that they are in the wrong here and not you, but unfortunately that often doesn't matter in life. I would start looking for another job either way, this doesn't sound like a place that you will be at for very long anyway.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
hb9vxk3
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This is a red flag. You should call off your shift in compliance with whatever policies and go to school. You may get a write up, they may fire you. If they do, understand that they are in the wrong here and not you, but unfortunately that often doesn't matter in life. I would start looking for another job either way, this doesn't sound like a place that you will be at for very long anyway.
There can be legal ramifications for missing school in Utah (aka truancy laws and court) but not for missing work, it's not your job to manage your manager and places who pawn the schedule issues off on employees are just places pawning managerial work off on you. They are trying to take advantage of you because you're young. Don't let them get away with it and make them understand exactly what a fine legal line they're walking, (aka child labor laws territory)
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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Tell your manager that they are the manager. That position includes doing things like resolving scheduling conflicts.and finding workers to fill in for you if you call out. IOW, finding a replacement for your shift is her job, not yours. Of course, you may want to be a little less blunt about it than I just was. But heck, maybe you don't. This may, of course, wind up with you looking for a new job. But if they're willing to pull this garbage, it's not much of a loss. If it does come to that, then on any future application when they ask why you left this job, just put down "scheduling conflicts," and in the meantime apply for unemployment.
Might be worth reporting to the Department of Labor: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/youthrules/young-worker-toolkit While they state 16+ year olds can work any hours, I would think that was intended to remove the day(s) and hour limitations that apply to those 15 and younger, with "outside school hours" still being applicable/common sense. But yes, in the end they can fire you, and as others suggested you should take this and other issues as red flags and find new employment anyhow. Good luck!
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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There can be legal ramifications for missing school in Utah (aka truancy laws and court) but not for missing work, it's not your job to manage your manager and places who pawn the schedule issues off on employees are just places pawning managerial work off on you. They are trying to take advantage of you because you're young. Don't let them get away with it and make them understand exactly what a fine legal line they're walking, (aka child labor laws territory)
Might be worth reporting to the Department of Labor: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/youthrules/young-worker-toolkit While they state 16+ year olds can work any hours, I would think that was intended to remove the day(s) and hour limitations that apply to those 15 and younger, with "outside school hours" still being applicable/common sense. But yes, in the end they can fire you, and as others suggested you should take this and other issues as red flags and find new employment anyhow. Good luck!
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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Might be worth reporting to the Department of Labor: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/youthrules/young-worker-toolkit While they state 16+ year olds can work any hours, I would think that was intended to remove the day(s) and hour limitations that apply to those 15 and younger, with "outside school hours" still being applicable/common sense. But yes, in the end they can fire you, and as others suggested you should take this and other issues as red flags and find new employment anyhow. Good luck!
Education always comes first. Don’t sacrifice your future for the sake of a high school job. If you get fired, it’s sad, but you can find something else. You only get one shot at graduating with your class.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
hbal394
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Tell your manager that they are the manager. That position includes doing things like resolving scheduling conflicts.and finding workers to fill in for you if you call out. IOW, finding a replacement for your shift is her job, not yours. Of course, you may want to be a little less blunt about it than I just was. But heck, maybe you don't. This may, of course, wind up with you looking for a new job. But if they're willing to pull this garbage, it's not much of a loss. If it does come to that, then on any future application when they ask why you left this job, just put down "scheduling conflicts," and in the meantime apply for unemployment.
There can be legal ramifications for missing school in Utah (aka truancy laws and court) but not for missing work, it's not your job to manage your manager and places who pawn the schedule issues off on employees are just places pawning managerial work off on you. They are trying to take advantage of you because you're young. Don't let them get away with it and make them understand exactly what a fine legal line they're walking, (aka child labor laws territory)
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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Education always comes first. Don’t sacrifice your future for the sake of a high school job. If you get fired, it’s sad, but you can find something else. You only get one shot at graduating with your class.
Tell your manager that they are the manager. That position includes doing things like resolving scheduling conflicts.and finding workers to fill in for you if you call out. IOW, finding a replacement for your shift is her job, not yours. Of course, you may want to be a little less blunt about it than I just was. But heck, maybe you don't. This may, of course, wind up with you looking for a new job. But if they're willing to pull this garbage, it's not much of a loss. If it does come to that, then on any future application when they ask why you left this job, just put down "scheduling conflicts," and in the meantime apply for unemployment.
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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School is more important than work. Tell your manager you will not show up on the days you have school. They messed up the schedule, this is their issue to fix. If you're fired, so be it. You won't have any trouble finding a CNA job at a facility that actually respects your schedule.
There can be legal ramifications for missing school in Utah (aka truancy laws and court) but not for missing work, it's not your job to manage your manager and places who pawn the schedule issues off on employees are just places pawning managerial work off on you. They are trying to take advantage of you because you're young. Don't let them get away with it and make them understand exactly what a fine legal line they're walking, (aka child labor laws territory)
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I have accidentally been scheduled for work during school hours. I am in high school and my manager is saying she can't change it and that I have to find coverage. Can I be fired when I don't show up? I am in Utah, 17, and in High School. I work as a CNA in a LTC facility and they allow us to put up the days we wish to work. Since our high school follows an a and b schedule, I am off on b days and those are the days I work. However I have been scheduled on a days and I will be in school for the first two hours of my shift. I reached out to the CNA manager who makes the schedule, and she told me that it is up to me to find coverage. I told her that if I can't get coverage I can't show up for work, but she still refuses to accommodate for me. I even offered to work the last four hours of my shift instead (this is a different shift block but still falls in my regular block. Just half the time). What should I do?
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School is more important than work. Tell your manager you will not show up on the days you have school. They messed up the schedule, this is their issue to fix. If you're fired, so be it. You won't have any trouble finding a CNA job at a facility that actually respects your schedule.
Education always comes first. Don’t sacrifice your future for the sake of a high school job. If you get fired, it’s sad, but you can find something else. You only get one shot at graduating with your class.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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A few crimes. Possibly a few torts. It is unclear if the police will press charges or the teacher will sue.
Congratulations! You have committed a felony! Statute.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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> We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty. No, what you're feeling is fear of consequences. I doubt you'd feel so "guilty" if you didn't think you were about to get in trouble. You're about to learn a very hard lesson in not behaving like a turd. If you're lucky, all you'll get is expelled.
A few crimes. Possibly a few torts. It is unclear if the police will press charges or the teacher will sue.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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> We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty. No, what you're feeling is fear of consequences. I doubt you'd feel so "guilty" if you didn't think you were about to get in trouble. You're about to learn a very hard lesson in not behaving like a turd. If you're lucky, all you'll get is expelled.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Did it even occur to you that you were possibly ending this woman's entire career? One that she possibly paid thousands of dollars in education for? Confess to your parents before the school tells them for you, and hope that your parents can afford a better lawyer (by an order of magnitude) than she can.
Stop talking to everyone but your parents about this. Get a lawyer ASAP, before your friends do. Consider being the first to snitch if your lawyer agrees to try and avoid all fingers pointing back at you. Start looking for a new high school. Just curious, how many friends are in this plot? How many people can link it back to you? Was it your idea or did you just follow along?
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Did it even occur to you that you were possibly ending this woman's entire career? One that she possibly paid thousands of dollars in education for? Confess to your parents before the school tells them for you, and hope that your parents can afford a better lawyer (by an order of magnitude) than she can.
A few crimes. Possibly a few torts. It is unclear if the police will press charges or the teacher will sue.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Did it even occur to you that you were possibly ending this woman's entire career? One that she possibly paid thousands of dollars in education for? Confess to your parents before the school tells them for you, and hope that your parents can afford a better lawyer (by an order of magnitude) than she can.
I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - /r/bestoflegaladvice] [Students record teacher's private phone conversations. They go viral. Students now want to make sure police don't get involved. [](#footer)*^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger/wiki/) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose/?to=\/r\/TotesMessenger))* [](#bot)
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Stop talking to everyone but your parents about this. Get a lawyer ASAP, before your friends do. Consider being the first to snitch if your lawyer agrees to try and avoid all fingers pointing back at you. Start looking for a new high school. Just curious, how many friends are in this plot? How many people can link it back to you? Was it your idea or did you just follow along?
You need to tell your parents because unless you’re a super cashed up 15 year old, you’re going to need their money to engage a lawyer. Do not, under any circumstances, think that your friends or their lawyers will have your best interests at heart. Furthermore, do not, under any circumstances, try to be smart and lie to your parents or your lawyer. You’ve committed potentially multiple crimes, and may be liable civilly. There’s also the possibility that your school may expel you. Regardless of what happens, but especially if nothing happens, I really do hope you learn a lesson from this, because your response to detention in this instance was totally inappropriate and unjustified. Sometimes, rightly or wrongly, things that seem unfair are going to happen to you – almost certainly a lecturer, a family member, or a boss will do something you feel is unfair, and what you did was absolutely not the way to respond to this.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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You need to tell your parents because unless you’re a super cashed up 15 year old, you’re going to need their money to engage a lawyer. Do not, under any circumstances, think that your friends or their lawyers will have your best interests at heart. Furthermore, do not, under any circumstances, try to be smart and lie to your parents or your lawyer. You’ve committed potentially multiple crimes, and may be liable civilly. There’s also the possibility that your school may expel you. Regardless of what happens, but especially if nothing happens, I really do hope you learn a lesson from this, because your response to detention in this instance was totally inappropriate and unjustified. Sometimes, rightly or wrongly, things that seem unfair are going to happen to you – almost certainly a lecturer, a family member, or a boss will do something you feel is unfair, and what you did was absolutely not the way to respond to this.
A few crimes. Possibly a few torts. It is unclear if the police will press charges or the teacher will sue.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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You need to tell your parents because unless you’re a super cashed up 15 year old, you’re going to need their money to engage a lawyer. Do not, under any circumstances, think that your friends or their lawyers will have your best interests at heart. Furthermore, do not, under any circumstances, try to be smart and lie to your parents or your lawyer. You’ve committed potentially multiple crimes, and may be liable civilly. There’s also the possibility that your school may expel you. Regardless of what happens, but especially if nothing happens, I really do hope you learn a lesson from this, because your response to detention in this instance was totally inappropriate and unjustified. Sometimes, rightly or wrongly, things that seem unfair are going to happen to you – almost certainly a lecturer, a family member, or a boss will do something you feel is unfair, and what you did was absolutely not the way to respond to this.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Y'all did that just because y'all got detention....spoiled little brats...
Stop talking to everyone but your parents about this. Get a lawyer ASAP, before your friends do. Consider being the first to snitch if your lawyer agrees to try and avoid all fingers pointing back at you. Start looking for a new high school. Just curious, how many friends are in this plot? How many people can link it back to you? Was it your idea or did you just follow along?
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Y'all did that just because y'all got detention....spoiled little brats...
A few crimes. Possibly a few torts. It is unclear if the police will press charges or the teacher will sue.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Y'all did that just because y'all got detention....spoiled little brats...
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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A few crimes. Possibly a few torts. It is unclear if the police will press charges or the teacher will sue.
Stop talking to everyone but your parents about this. Get a lawyer ASAP, before your friends do. Consider being the first to snitch if your lawyer agrees to try and avoid all fingers pointing back at you. Start looking for a new high school. Just curious, how many friends are in this plot? How many people can link it back to you? Was it your idea or did you just follow along?
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Stop talking to everyone but your parents about this. Get a lawyer ASAP, before your friends do. Consider being the first to snitch if your lawyer agrees to try and avoid all fingers pointing back at you. Start looking for a new high school. Just curious, how many friends are in this plot? How many people can link it back to you? Was it your idea or did you just follow along?
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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It also sounds like you might be civilly liable under the federal wiretap act which has penalties of $10,000 per violation among others including attorney fees. What you did was extraordinarily stupid and immature. Even if you are fortunate and not charged with a crime, depending on your state laws, you or your parents (same goes for your friends) can still be held liable for your actions if the teacher decides to file a suit.
So your teacher now just needs to get online and she can tell that she is looking for a 15 year old who she recently gave detention to with his friends. Also, she's looking for a wrestling fan, by your username. You better pray there are other kids in your school who like wrestling and have been given detention recently with friends and are tech savvy. It won't even work to delete this post at this point since it has been archived on /r/bestoflegaladvice Just for the future, I'm going to draw you a bad decision map. Bad decision number one - whatever you did to get your detention in the first place. You obviously think it was unfair but nobody is going to agree now that they have seen what kind of a person you are (bad) Bad decision number two - revenge for a detention not in the form of tping a car, or shaving cream, or normal high school bullshit, but a *felony*. You can not control a classroom if people don't respect you, and there are always parents waiting to be outraged at teachers out of school behavior, so if she's not fired she's likely boned anyways. Bad decision number three - posting about it on reddit using highly identifiable details. Seriously dude, stop making bad decisions. Because right now I wouldn't be surprised if you went to juvie or even jail and hopefully you understand that 100% of the blame for that lies with you.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Can the police subpoena Reddit's IP logs and figure out who this kid is? Follow up question, does anyone else think that this admission of guilt included enough identifying information to figure out who was responsible? If an administrator were to get wind of this post, they're already looking for who did this, you've admitted it was you and a bunch of friends in revenge of detention. How often do(edited cause I wrote 'to') groups of people get sent to detention together? I feel like this would be pretty easy to figure out given that piece of information.
So your teacher now just needs to get online and she can tell that she is looking for a 15 year old who she recently gave detention to with his friends. Also, she's looking for a wrestling fan, by your username. You better pray there are other kids in your school who like wrestling and have been given detention recently with friends and are tech savvy. It won't even work to delete this post at this point since it has been archived on /r/bestoflegaladvice Just for the future, I'm going to draw you a bad decision map. Bad decision number one - whatever you did to get your detention in the first place. You obviously think it was unfair but nobody is going to agree now that they have seen what kind of a person you are (bad) Bad decision number two - revenge for a detention not in the form of tping a car, or shaving cream, or normal high school bullshit, but a *felony*. You can not control a classroom if people don't respect you, and there are always parents waiting to be outraged at teachers out of school behavior, so if she's not fired she's likely boned anyways. Bad decision number three - posting about it on reddit using highly identifiable details. Seriously dude, stop making bad decisions. Because right now I wouldn't be surprised if you went to juvie or even jail and hopefully you understand that 100% of the blame for that lies with you.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Aside from the legal advice I recommend you learn about the prisoner's dilemma
So your teacher now just needs to get online and she can tell that she is looking for a 15 year old who she recently gave detention to with his friends. Also, she's looking for a wrestling fan, by your username. You better pray there are other kids in your school who like wrestling and have been given detention recently with friends and are tech savvy. It won't even work to delete this post at this point since it has been archived on /r/bestoflegaladvice Just for the future, I'm going to draw you a bad decision map. Bad decision number one - whatever you did to get your detention in the first place. You obviously think it was unfair but nobody is going to agree now that they have seen what kind of a person you are (bad) Bad decision number two - revenge for a detention not in the form of tping a car, or shaving cream, or normal high school bullshit, but a *felony*. You can not control a classroom if people don't respect you, and there are always parents waiting to be outraged at teachers out of school behavior, so if she's not fired she's likely boned anyways. Bad decision number three - posting about it on reddit using highly identifiable details. Seriously dude, stop making bad decisions. Because right now I wouldn't be surprised if you went to juvie or even jail and hopefully you understand that 100% of the blame for that lies with you.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - /r/bestoflegaladvice] [Students record teacher's private phone conversations. They go viral. Students now want to make sure police don't get involved. [](#footer)*^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger/wiki/) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose/?to=\/r\/TotesMessenger))* [](#bot)
So your teacher now just needs to get online and she can tell that she is looking for a 15 year old who she recently gave detention to with his friends. Also, she's looking for a wrestling fan, by your username. You better pray there are other kids in your school who like wrestling and have been given detention recently with friends and are tech savvy. It won't even work to delete this post at this point since it has been archived on /r/bestoflegaladvice Just for the future, I'm going to draw you a bad decision map. Bad decision number one - whatever you did to get your detention in the first place. You obviously think it was unfair but nobody is going to agree now that they have seen what kind of a person you are (bad) Bad decision number two - revenge for a detention not in the form of tping a car, or shaving cream, or normal high school bullshit, but a *felony*. You can not control a classroom if people don't respect you, and there are always parents waiting to be outraged at teachers out of school behavior, so if she's not fired she's likely boned anyways. Bad decision number three - posting about it on reddit using highly identifiable details. Seriously dude, stop making bad decisions. Because right now I wouldn't be surprised if you went to juvie or even jail and hopefully you understand that 100% of the blame for that lies with you.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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I am not a lawyer but you're an idiot.
So your teacher now just needs to get online and she can tell that she is looking for a 15 year old who she recently gave detention to with his friends. Also, she's looking for a wrestling fan, by your username. You better pray there are other kids in your school who like wrestling and have been given detention recently with friends and are tech savvy. It won't even work to delete this post at this point since it has been archived on /r/bestoflegaladvice Just for the future, I'm going to draw you a bad decision map. Bad decision number one - whatever you did to get your detention in the first place. You obviously think it was unfair but nobody is going to agree now that they have seen what kind of a person you are (bad) Bad decision number two - revenge for a detention not in the form of tping a car, or shaving cream, or normal high school bullshit, but a *felony*. You can not control a classroom if people don't respect you, and there are always parents waiting to be outraged at teachers out of school behavior, so if she's not fired she's likely boned anyways. Bad decision number three - posting about it on reddit using highly identifiable details. Seriously dude, stop making bad decisions. Because right now I wouldn't be surprised if you went to juvie or even jail and hopefully you understand that 100% of the blame for that lies with you.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Will someone please update this with the news article when they are arrested? Thanks
It also sounds like you might be civilly liable under the federal wiretap act which has penalties of $10,000 per violation among others including attorney fees. What you did was extraordinarily stupid and immature. Even if you are fortunate and not charged with a crime, depending on your state laws, you or your parents (same goes for your friends) can still be held liable for your actions if the teacher decides to file a suit.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Can the police subpoena Reddit's IP logs and figure out who this kid is? Follow up question, does anyone else think that this admission of guilt included enough identifying information to figure out who was responsible? If an administrator were to get wind of this post, they're already looking for who did this, you've admitted it was you and a bunch of friends in revenge of detention. How often do(edited cause I wrote 'to') groups of people get sent to detention together? I feel like this would be pretty easy to figure out given that piece of information.
Will someone please update this with the news article when they are arrested? Thanks
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Will someone please update this with the news article when they are arrested? Thanks
Aside from the legal advice I recommend you learn about the prisoner's dilemma
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - /r/bestoflegaladvice] [Students record teacher's private phone conversations. They go viral. Students now want to make sure police don't get involved. [](#footer)*^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger/wiki/) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose/?to=\/r\/TotesMessenger))* [](#bot)
Will someone please update this with the news article when they are arrested? Thanks
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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I am not a lawyer but you're an idiot.
Will someone please update this with the news article when they are arrested? Thanks
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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It also sounds like you might be civilly liable under the federal wiretap act which has penalties of $10,000 per violation among others including attorney fees. What you did was extraordinarily stupid and immature. Even if you are fortunate and not charged with a crime, depending on your state laws, you or your parents (same goes for your friends) can still be held liable for your actions if the teacher decides to file a suit.
Aside from the legal advice I recommend you learn about the prisoner's dilemma
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - /r/bestoflegaladvice] [Students record teacher's private phone conversations. They go viral. Students now want to make sure police don't get involved. [](#footer)*^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger/wiki/) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose/?to=\/r\/TotesMessenger))* [](#bot)
It also sounds like you might be civilly liable under the federal wiretap act which has penalties of $10,000 per violation among others including attorney fees. What you did was extraordinarily stupid and immature. Even if you are fortunate and not charged with a crime, depending on your state laws, you or your parents (same goes for your friends) can still be held liable for your actions if the teacher decides to file a suit.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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Can the police subpoena Reddit's IP logs and figure out who this kid is? Follow up question, does anyone else think that this admission of guilt included enough identifying information to figure out who was responsible? If an administrator were to get wind of this post, they're already looking for who did this, you've admitted it was you and a bunch of friends in revenge of detention. How often do(edited cause I wrote 'to') groups of people get sent to detention together? I feel like this would be pretty easy to figure out given that piece of information.
Aside from the legal advice I recommend you learn about the prisoner's dilemma
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - /r/bestoflegaladvice] [Students record teacher's private phone conversations. They go viral. Students now want to make sure police don't get involved. [](#footer)*^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger/wiki/) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose/?to=\/r\/TotesMessenger))* [](#bot)
Can the police subpoena Reddit's IP logs and figure out who this kid is? Follow up question, does anyone else think that this admission of guilt included enough identifying information to figure out who was responsible? If an administrator were to get wind of this post, they're already looking for who did this, you've admitted it was you and a bunch of friends in revenge of detention. How often do(edited cause I wrote 'to') groups of people get sent to detention together? I feel like this would be pretty easy to figure out given that piece of information.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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I am not a lawyer but you're an idiot.
Can the police subpoena Reddit's IP logs and figure out who this kid is? Follow up question, does anyone else think that this admission of guilt included enough identifying information to figure out who was responsible? If an administrator were to get wind of this post, they're already looking for who did this, you've admitted it was you and a bunch of friends in revenge of detention. How often do(edited cause I wrote 'to') groups of people get sent to detention together? I feel like this would be pretty easy to figure out given that piece of information.
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[NY] Me and a bunch of my friends stealthily installed an voice recording app in our high school teacher's phone and recorded dirty phone calls of her and her husband. We made that voice clip viral in our school. Rumors says teacher has figured out it was us. What would happen? Help. We did it in revenge of our detention, now we are feeling guilty.
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I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - /r/bestoflegaladvice] [Students record teacher's private phone conversations. They go viral. Students now want to make sure police don't get involved. [](#footer)*^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger/wiki/) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose/?to=\/r\/TotesMessenger))* [](#bot)
Aside from the legal advice I recommend you learn about the prisoner's dilemma
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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As an aside, have you talked to the school about an IEP to address the social anxiety and/or have you been aggressive about treating it with health care providers and counselors. Dropping out of high school is a one-way ticket to a lifetime of poverty. I'd be pulling out all the stops to make sure it doesn't happen.
Allowing your daughter to shrink away from society due to a social anxiety disorder is not helping her. I would meet with school counselors or a private therapist for additional help.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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As long as she keeps schooling, yes. Kansas has very lax homeschool laws, they recognize homeschool essentially as private school, and you just need to register as a private school (my mom does this). Look for options for online schooling, and how to homeschool in Kansas (legal site with Christian bias but still a good resource is hslda.org. You'll need to be organized to show that your daughter was in school for a certain number of hours/days in a year and maintain a transcript. Community colleges are also an option for dual-enrollment, she can start those at any point with a transcript and permission from a teacher and principal (mom and dad, mom, etc). So for example instead of taking high school math you can enroll her at one of the CCs near you so she can get college credit.
Allowing your daughter to shrink away from society due to a social anxiety disorder is not helping her. I would meet with school counselors or a private therapist for additional help.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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Allowing your daughter to shrink away from society due to a social anxiety disorder is not helping her. I would meet with school counselors or a private therapist for additional help.
Why not call the school and ask them? Also, congrats on touching Morrissey. I've gotten close, but no actual touching.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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As an aside, have you talked to the school about an IEP to address the social anxiety and/or have you been aggressive about treating it with health care providers and counselors. Dropping out of high school is a one-way ticket to a lifetime of poverty. I'd be pulling out all the stops to make sure it doesn't happen.
As long as she keeps schooling, yes. Kansas has very lax homeschool laws, they recognize homeschool essentially as private school, and you just need to register as a private school (my mom does this). Look for options for online schooling, and how to homeschool in Kansas (legal site with Christian bias but still a good resource is hslda.org. You'll need to be organized to show that your daughter was in school for a certain number of hours/days in a year and maintain a transcript. Community colleges are also an option for dual-enrollment, she can start those at any point with a transcript and permission from a teacher and principal (mom and dad, mom, etc). So for example instead of taking high school math you can enroll her at one of the CCs near you so she can get college credit.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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Why not call the school and ask them? Also, congrats on touching Morrissey. I've gotten close, but no actual touching.
As an aside, have you talked to the school about an IEP to address the social anxiety and/or have you been aggressive about treating it with health care providers and counselors. Dropping out of high school is a one-way ticket to a lifetime of poverty. I'd be pulling out all the stops to make sure it doesn't happen.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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I'll tell it to you straight. Your daughter needs to get her "act" together... and quick. No parent should "encourage" their child to drop out of high school. That should not even be a discussed "option" in your household. If you've "gave up"... then it's time for social services to do their thing. Life is MANY times tougher than high school. She is eventually going to have to suffer though life on her own. If social anxiety is holding her back from high school... she has NO IDEA how it's going to hold her back a few years from now. Back in my day... it was "get your ass to school... or else!" There was NO discussion on the matter. Get her treatment. Get her support. DON'T let her drop out!
As long as she keeps schooling, yes. Kansas has very lax homeschool laws, they recognize homeschool essentially as private school, and you just need to register as a private school (my mom does this). Look for options for online schooling, and how to homeschool in Kansas (legal site with Christian bias but still a good resource is hslda.org. You'll need to be organized to show that your daughter was in school for a certain number of hours/days in a year and maintain a transcript. Community colleges are also an option for dual-enrollment, she can start those at any point with a transcript and permission from a teacher and principal (mom and dad, mom, etc). So for example instead of taking high school math you can enroll her at one of the CCs near you so she can get college credit.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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I'll tell it to you straight. Your daughter needs to get her "act" together... and quick. No parent should "encourage" their child to drop out of high school. That should not even be a discussed "option" in your household. If you've "gave up"... then it's time for social services to do their thing. Life is MANY times tougher than high school. She is eventually going to have to suffer though life on her own. If social anxiety is holding her back from high school... she has NO IDEA how it's going to hold her back a few years from now. Back in my day... it was "get your ass to school... or else!" There was NO discussion on the matter. Get her treatment. Get her support. DON'T let her drop out!
Why not call the school and ask them? Also, congrats on touching Morrissey. I've gotten close, but no actual touching.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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I'll tell it to you straight. Your daughter needs to get her "act" together... and quick. No parent should "encourage" their child to drop out of high school. That should not even be a discussed "option" in your household. If you've "gave up"... then it's time for social services to do their thing. Life is MANY times tougher than high school. She is eventually going to have to suffer though life on her own. If social anxiety is holding her back from high school... she has NO IDEA how it's going to hold her back a few years from now. Back in my day... it was "get your ass to school... or else!" There was NO discussion on the matter. Get her treatment. Get her support. DON'T let her drop out!
Well a parent trying to get their kid to drop out doesn't help.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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I'll tell it to you straight. Your daughter needs to get her "act" together... and quick. No parent should "encourage" their child to drop out of high school. That should not even be a discussed "option" in your household. If you've "gave up"... then it's time for social services to do their thing. Life is MANY times tougher than high school. She is eventually going to have to suffer though life on her own. If social anxiety is holding her back from high school... she has NO IDEA how it's going to hold her back a few years from now. Back in my day... it was "get your ass to school... or else!" There was NO discussion on the matter. Get her treatment. Get her support. DON'T let her drop out!
If 16 she can get an equivalency diploma. http://www.kansasregents.org/students/kansas_ged_information
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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Why not call the school and ask them? Also, congrats on touching Morrissey. I've gotten close, but no actual touching.
As long as she keeps schooling, yes. Kansas has very lax homeschool laws, they recognize homeschool essentially as private school, and you just need to register as a private school (my mom does this). Look for options for online schooling, and how to homeschool in Kansas (legal site with Christian bias but still a good resource is hslda.org. You'll need to be organized to show that your daughter was in school for a certain number of hours/days in a year and maintain a transcript. Community colleges are also an option for dual-enrollment, she can start those at any point with a transcript and permission from a teacher and principal (mom and dad, mom, etc). So for example instead of taking high school math you can enroll her at one of the CCs near you so she can get college credit.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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A young lady in my extended family was in exactly the same situation about two years ago. Her family consulted her pediatrician, who prescribed a small dose of an SSRI. Within 2 or 3 weeks, she was a completely different girl, who is now confident doing public speaking, and who was elected by her classmate for various positions. Talk to the counselors at school, and to your daughter's pediatrician. In the worst case, if that *doesn't* work, several Kansas school districts offer complete on-line high school curricula, so she could learn the material that way and obtain a regular diploma. Best of luck.
Why not call the school and ask them? Also, congrats on touching Morrissey. I've gotten close, but no actual touching.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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Well a parent trying to get their kid to drop out doesn't help.
A young lady in my extended family was in exactly the same situation about two years ago. Her family consulted her pediatrician, who prescribed a small dose of an SSRI. Within 2 or 3 weeks, she was a completely different girl, who is now confident doing public speaking, and who was elected by her classmate for various positions. Talk to the counselors at school, and to your daughter's pediatrician. In the worst case, if that *doesn't* work, several Kansas school districts offer complete on-line high school curricula, so she could learn the material that way and obtain a regular diploma. Best of luck.
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Can my daughter who is a sophomore in high school legally drop out of high school in Kansas? She has all kinds of social anxiety issues. Nothing will motivate her to get her assignments done. I am exhausted from trying to get her to do it.
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If 16 she can get an equivalency diploma. http://www.kansasregents.org/students/kansas_ged_information
A young lady in my extended family was in exactly the same situation about two years ago. Her family consulted her pediatrician, who prescribed a small dose of an SSRI. Within 2 or 3 weeks, she was a completely different girl, who is now confident doing public speaking, and who was elected by her classmate for various positions. Talk to the counselors at school, and to your daughter's pediatrician. In the worst case, if that *doesn't* work, several Kansas school districts offer complete on-line high school curricula, so she could learn the material that way and obtain a regular diploma. Best of luck.
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The state of Alabama has suspended my driver's license because they say I am a minor who dropped out of school. I'm a 33 year old nurse. I have gone to three different DMV offices and have spent countless hours on the phone and I've gotten nowhere. I have also been pulled over and have to go to court because I got caught driving with a suspended license. So now I have to take a cab to and from work which is costing me a ton of money because I don't want to get charged again. Every time I go to the DMV I bring my passport, my license and my hospital ID to prove that I'm 33. The third time I went in person I brought my high school transcript and my nursing degree to show I graduated high school 15 years ago. Each time I go to the DMV they just give me some phone numbers to call. What else can I do here? I'm asking because I'm not well versed in the law and I don't know to navigate this. Thank you in advance to anyone who responds.
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Document everything. Get the people you speak with name and title and extension. If you mail anything send it certified mail with a receipt.
Did you ever receive written notification that your license was suspended? From the Alabama DMV website: "When your Alabama driver’s license is suspended, the DPS will send you a written notification. You have 30 days after the effective date of your suspension to surrender your driver’s license to the DPS. " If you didn't, I wonder if you could be dealing with some sort of identity theft? Someone manufactured a (perhaps very good) facsimile of your license and sold it to a minor. Who got pulled over and had their (your) license suspended. Check this page... https://www.dmv.org/al-alabama/suspended-license.php
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The state of Alabama has suspended my driver's license because they say I am a minor who dropped out of school. I'm a 33 year old nurse. I have gone to three different DMV offices and have spent countless hours on the phone and I've gotten nowhere. I have also been pulled over and have to go to court because I got caught driving with a suspended license. So now I have to take a cab to and from work which is costing me a ton of money because I don't want to get charged again. Every time I go to the DMV I bring my passport, my license and my hospital ID to prove that I'm 33. The third time I went in person I brought my high school transcript and my nursing degree to show I graduated high school 15 years ago. Each time I go to the DMV they just give me some phone numbers to call. What else can I do here? I'm asking because I'm not well versed in the law and I don't know to navigate this. Thank you in advance to anyone who responds.
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Forget supervisors if you are not getting results. Find out who the director is, and make an appointment with them.
Document everything. Get the people you speak with name and title and extension. If you mail anything send it certified mail with a receipt.
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Landlord sold building. New owner wants me to submit application and pay the app fee for the apartment I'm already living in [TN] Knoxville, Tennessee. I'm renting an apartment with a lease that goes to August 2022. The owner recently sold the building. The new owner's property manager just sent us an application and a letter saying we have to submit the application, along with the $50 application fee (per adult), and come in to their office by the end of the month to sign a new lease. They say starting in January, we won't be able to pay rent if we're not in their system, and they can't get us into their system unless we fill out the application, pay the fee, and sign a new lease. It was my understanding that the lease would transfer as-is to the new owners, and that they are not allowed to change any terms of our lease. If that is the case, why would we need to sign a new one? Isn't my original lease still a valid legally binding contract until next August? Can they force me to pay an application fee for an apartment that I'm already living in and have a lease for? Can they refuse to accept my rent payments if I don't fill out the application and pay the application fee?
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Check your lease to see if it includes a clause that gives the landlord a right of termination when he sells the building. If not, the terms of the current lease remain in place.
Your lease is what controls. A simple, polite, "no thank you, I have a lease" is all you really need. This person doesn't know how to landlord. They can add you to their "system" just fine.
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Landlord sold building. New owner wants me to submit application and pay the app fee for the apartment I'm already living in [TN] Knoxville, Tennessee. I'm renting an apartment with a lease that goes to August 2022. The owner recently sold the building. The new owner's property manager just sent us an application and a letter saying we have to submit the application, along with the $50 application fee (per adult), and come in to their office by the end of the month to sign a new lease. They say starting in January, we won't be able to pay rent if we're not in their system, and they can't get us into their system unless we fill out the application, pay the fee, and sign a new lease. It was my understanding that the lease would transfer as-is to the new owners, and that they are not allowed to change any terms of our lease. If that is the case, why would we need to sign a new one? Isn't my original lease still a valid legally binding contract until next August? Can they force me to pay an application fee for an apartment that I'm already living in and have a lease for? Can they refuse to accept my rent payments if I don't fill out the application and pay the application fee?
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I hope this doesn't run afoul of the "no recommendations" rule, but if your landlord plays hardball with you, UT's law school has a law clinic that deals with landlord-tenant disputes.
Not a lawyer but I've been a renter in a few states. Everyone that rents should read and understand renters rights for the state they rent in. I got double my security deposit back from a landlord that held onto longer than they were allowed to. Here is the site for TN: https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/environmental/healthy-homes/hh/renters.html
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Landlord sold building. New owner wants me to submit application and pay the app fee for the apartment I'm already living in [TN] Knoxville, Tennessee. I'm renting an apartment with a lease that goes to August 2022. The owner recently sold the building. The new owner's property manager just sent us an application and a letter saying we have to submit the application, along with the $50 application fee (per adult), and come in to their office by the end of the month to sign a new lease. They say starting in January, we won't be able to pay rent if we're not in their system, and they can't get us into their system unless we fill out the application, pay the fee, and sign a new lease. It was my understanding that the lease would transfer as-is to the new owners, and that they are not allowed to change any terms of our lease. If that is the case, why would we need to sign a new one? Isn't my original lease still a valid legally binding contract until next August? Can they force me to pay an application fee for an apartment that I'm already living in and have a lease for? Can they refuse to accept my rent payments if I don't fill out the application and pay the application fee?
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Not a lawyer but if they are going to refuse rent, make sure to pay in a way you can prove you paid rent. An example would be a money order or a cashiers check.
I hope this doesn't run afoul of the "no recommendations" rule, but if your landlord plays hardball with you, UT's law school has a law clinic that deals with landlord-tenant disputes.
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Landlord sold building. New owner wants me to submit application and pay the app fee for the apartment I'm already living in [TN] Knoxville, Tennessee. I'm renting an apartment with a lease that goes to August 2022. The owner recently sold the building. The new owner's property manager just sent us an application and a letter saying we have to submit the application, along with the $50 application fee (per adult), and come in to their office by the end of the month to sign a new lease. They say starting in January, we won't be able to pay rent if we're not in their system, and they can't get us into their system unless we fill out the application, pay the fee, and sign a new lease. It was my understanding that the lease would transfer as-is to the new owners, and that they are not allowed to change any terms of our lease. If that is the case, why would we need to sign a new one? Isn't my original lease still a valid legally binding contract until next August? Can they force me to pay an application fee for an apartment that I'm already living in and have a lease for? Can they refuse to accept my rent payments if I don't fill out the application and pay the application fee?
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I think there's a ton of spot on advice for renters, I'd double check it but I figured it'd be nice to have someone collect it all for lack of better words. (I've also added some of my own thoughts in parenthesis, I am not a lawyer, but things worth double checking for lack of better words) 1. A simple "No," to your landlord, if you already have a lease such suffice \*Until the lease expires, they may want you to sign a new one because of this (Still may be illegal, as you're previous lease likely had a clause stating you become "Month-to-Month.) 2. BS, they can add your info to the system fine, (it's a signature they want, and likely to change something u/particle409 has some good speculative ideas) 3. I also want to re-iterate u/particle409 's thought on signing a new lease, IF YOU WANT, keywords there, just make sure the terms are agreeable. Otherwise you're likely under no obligation to do so. (You should also ask them to waive any fees for application, seeing as you already live there, it may not be legal for them to charge you to apply for a home you already live in) 4. u/BoltLink puts out some good info to, be ready if you play hardball, for them to play right back. For example, if you're on month to month, they may choose not to renew your "month-to-month" lease, and have a non renewal at end of lease (If this is even something that can be done? I don't know there) and (if it's month to month, that means like a 30 day notice, but if you know you're lease is good for a year, then you're probably fine, until that year ends) 5. u/thorbutskinny points out another good thought and I'm just going to quote it:"They can't legally make you pay an application fee to continue living there on your current lease. On top of that, make sure you send them whatever you need to through email or certified mail so you have a copy telling them "no thanks, I'm happy with my current lease".From what it sounds like, they want more information on you than the previous owner gave them, and are hoping you'll provide it at your own expense."Prior to this he mentions they likely just want to get your info into their style of systems, which should be at no cost to you to apply. (I'd also think no credit checks etc.) That's about it! TL:DR. (I am not a lawyer) Probably a new landlord, doesn't quite know the rules, or a new landlord that does, and is trying to be shady. Your lease stands even with new owners until it ends.
I hope this doesn't run afoul of the "no recommendations" rule, but if your landlord plays hardball with you, UT's law school has a law clinic that deals with landlord-tenant disputes.
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Landlord sold building. New owner wants me to submit application and pay the app fee for the apartment I'm already living in [TN] Knoxville, Tennessee. I'm renting an apartment with a lease that goes to August 2022. The owner recently sold the building. The new owner's property manager just sent us an application and a letter saying we have to submit the application, along with the $50 application fee (per adult), and come in to their office by the end of the month to sign a new lease. They say starting in January, we won't be able to pay rent if we're not in their system, and they can't get us into their system unless we fill out the application, pay the fee, and sign a new lease. It was my understanding that the lease would transfer as-is to the new owners, and that they are not allowed to change any terms of our lease. If that is the case, why would we need to sign a new one? Isn't my original lease still a valid legally binding contract until next August? Can they force me to pay an application fee for an apartment that I'm already living in and have a lease for? Can they refuse to accept my rent payments if I don't fill out the application and pay the application fee?
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Not a lawyer but if they are going to refuse rent, make sure to pay in a way you can prove you paid rent. An example would be a money order or a cashiers check.
Not a lawyer but I've been a renter in a few states. Everyone that rents should read and understand renters rights for the state they rent in. I got double my security deposit back from a landlord that held onto longer than they were allowed to. Here is the site for TN: https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/environmental/healthy-homes/hh/renters.html
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Landlord sold building. New owner wants me to submit application and pay the app fee for the apartment I'm already living in [TN] Knoxville, Tennessee. I'm renting an apartment with a lease that goes to August 2022. The owner recently sold the building. The new owner's property manager just sent us an application and a letter saying we have to submit the application, along with the $50 application fee (per adult), and come in to their office by the end of the month to sign a new lease. They say starting in January, we won't be able to pay rent if we're not in their system, and they can't get us into their system unless we fill out the application, pay the fee, and sign a new lease. It was my understanding that the lease would transfer as-is to the new owners, and that they are not allowed to change any terms of our lease. If that is the case, why would we need to sign a new one? Isn't my original lease still a valid legally binding contract until next August? Can they force me to pay an application fee for an apartment that I'm already living in and have a lease for? Can they refuse to accept my rent payments if I don't fill out the application and pay the application fee?
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My apartment complex changed management systems (And staff) 3 times in my year and a half there. Never had to sign a new lease, application or pay any additional fees. This guy is scamming you.
I think there's a ton of spot on advice for renters, I'd double check it but I figured it'd be nice to have someone collect it all for lack of better words. (I've also added some of my own thoughts in parenthesis, I am not a lawyer, but things worth double checking for lack of better words) 1. A simple "No," to your landlord, if you already have a lease such suffice \*Until the lease expires, they may want you to sign a new one because of this (Still may be illegal, as you're previous lease likely had a clause stating you become "Month-to-Month.) 2. BS, they can add your info to the system fine, (it's a signature they want, and likely to change something u/particle409 has some good speculative ideas) 3. I also want to re-iterate u/particle409 's thought on signing a new lease, IF YOU WANT, keywords there, just make sure the terms are agreeable. Otherwise you're likely under no obligation to do so. (You should also ask them to waive any fees for application, seeing as you already live there, it may not be legal for them to charge you to apply for a home you already live in) 4. u/BoltLink puts out some good info to, be ready if you play hardball, for them to play right back. For example, if you're on month to month, they may choose not to renew your "month-to-month" lease, and have a non renewal at end of lease (If this is even something that can be done? I don't know there) and (if it's month to month, that means like a 30 day notice, but if you know you're lease is good for a year, then you're probably fine, until that year ends) 5. u/thorbutskinny points out another good thought and I'm just going to quote it:"They can't legally make you pay an application fee to continue living there on your current lease. On top of that, make sure you send them whatever you need to through email or certified mail so you have a copy telling them "no thanks, I'm happy with my current lease".From what it sounds like, they want more information on you than the previous owner gave them, and are hoping you'll provide it at your own expense."Prior to this he mentions they likely just want to get your info into their style of systems, which should be at no cost to you to apply. (I'd also think no credit checks etc.) That's about it! TL:DR. (I am not a lawyer) Probably a new landlord, doesn't quite know the rules, or a new landlord that does, and is trying to be shady. Your lease stands even with new owners until it ends.
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