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w5x41i | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Psychiatrist admitted to stealing and selling my brothers antipsychotic medication the day we went for his appointment. So my younger brother got caught up with the wrong crowd developed a thought disorder a few years ago after experimenting with heavy drugs. Now he needs to get an antipsychotic administered via shot every month so that he doesn't have another episode. My brother hasn't had his shots since January if this year, but the pharmacy delivers his meds to this Psychiatrist's office every month, incase he goes to get it. Last week, my brother cane to me, and said he's realized that he really needs the meds and can't go on without them much longer (up until then, basically denied he needed anything, saying "I'm not crazy, you can't make me") but now begging for it essentially, claiming he's now experiencing suicidal thoughts. I called, made an appointment, told his doctor everything, today we get there, expecting 6 vials, only to be told he doesn't have any left. He admitted to selling them, as each shot is worth $2,600. I'm planning to get the insurance involved, and I want to sue this man. Do I have a case? | ihb7gzy | ihbbpdl | 1,658,575,869 | 1,658,578,597 | 20 | 77 | Did your brother, or his insurance, already pay for the meds? | Not a lawyer but am medical. Hmm, the psychiatrist is in a lot of trouble if he did this. It should be easy enough to follow up by just getting records from the pharmacy and insurance that they were paid for and delivered. Then it will be on the psychiatrist to produce them. He should not have ordered the next injection to be delivered if he didn’t use the last one (around me, they don’t just send those on auto refill because they are so expensive, the nurse calls each week and gives a list of injections to send over and the receiving doctor has to sign a yearly form that they agree to only use the patient’s injection on that patient). I’m not sure who the right person to report this to would be, but the DEA would be a start. The DEA has local offices and you just need to google it and call them. Other avenues to follow include notifying the insurance, the pharmacy and possibly local authorities. That being said, if this actually happened, the psychiatrist is really stupid for saying he sold them. Doctors can easily get samples of all the expensive injections for free from the drug companies. They love to give them to doctors and it wouldn’t take much for him to just replace them that way (which will still leave him in trouble if caught, but he could have covered his tail without you realizing it). | 0 | 2,728 | 3.85 |
w5x41i | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Psychiatrist admitted to stealing and selling my brothers antipsychotic medication the day we went for his appointment. So my younger brother got caught up with the wrong crowd developed a thought disorder a few years ago after experimenting with heavy drugs. Now he needs to get an antipsychotic administered via shot every month so that he doesn't have another episode. My brother hasn't had his shots since January if this year, but the pharmacy delivers his meds to this Psychiatrist's office every month, incase he goes to get it. Last week, my brother cane to me, and said he's realized that he really needs the meds and can't go on without them much longer (up until then, basically denied he needed anything, saying "I'm not crazy, you can't make me") but now begging for it essentially, claiming he's now experiencing suicidal thoughts. I called, made an appointment, told his doctor everything, today we get there, expecting 6 vials, only to be told he doesn't have any left. He admitted to selling them, as each shot is worth $2,600. I'm planning to get the insurance involved, and I want to sue this man. Do I have a case? | ihb7gzy | ihbo51t | 1,658,575,869 | 1,658,585,250 | 20 | 21 | Did your brother, or his insurance, already pay for the meds? | Call the medical board of California's consumer hotline, which regulates doctors, and ask them how to proceed. 1 (800) 633-2322 I would also call the California department of insurance consumer helpline. 1-800-927-4357 Neither of these will directly solve your problem, but they are the first point of consumer contact for people having problems, they are staffed by very competent people who want to help you, who will help you get to the right state agencies and offices to report this, get this doctor in a lot of trouble, and get your brother the help he needs, get your money back, etc. I don't know exactly what they will tell you, but they will often tell you when you need to file a police report, when you need to call your own attorney, and they can be very helpful about getting you those numbers and getting you in touch with a local officer who's handled this kind of issue before, etc. | 0 | 9,381 | 1.05 |
w5x41i | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Psychiatrist admitted to stealing and selling my brothers antipsychotic medication the day we went for his appointment. So my younger brother got caught up with the wrong crowd developed a thought disorder a few years ago after experimenting with heavy drugs. Now he needs to get an antipsychotic administered via shot every month so that he doesn't have another episode. My brother hasn't had his shots since January if this year, but the pharmacy delivers his meds to this Psychiatrist's office every month, incase he goes to get it. Last week, my brother cane to me, and said he's realized that he really needs the meds and can't go on without them much longer (up until then, basically denied he needed anything, saying "I'm not crazy, you can't make me") but now begging for it essentially, claiming he's now experiencing suicidal thoughts. I called, made an appointment, told his doctor everything, today we get there, expecting 6 vials, only to be told he doesn't have any left. He admitted to selling them, as each shot is worth $2,600. I'm planning to get the insurance involved, and I want to sue this man. Do I have a case? | ihcm0p0 | ihbzrzm | 1,658,599,970 | 1,658,590,474 | 6 | 5 | You are probably referring to Invega Sustenna, Abilify Maintenna, Aristada or Persaris. All these medications are $1500+ a shot. What that doctor is doing is insurance fraud and theft. Is there another psychiatric provider in your area available? This should be reported to your brothers insurance company and thebproviders licensing board. Your insurance can authorize a replacement but if you are rural or long wait list he may have to utilize an a emergency room or go for acute hospitilization voluntarily/involuntaril since he is suicidal. Edit. You should also make a police report. | Not a lawyer. Does this medication expire? For example, if he didn't get his vial from January, would it still be viable today? The reason I ask is because this could affect the value of damages you might be able to collect. | 1 | 9,496 | 1.2 |
w5x41i | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Psychiatrist admitted to stealing and selling my brothers antipsychotic medication the day we went for his appointment. So my younger brother got caught up with the wrong crowd developed a thought disorder a few years ago after experimenting with heavy drugs. Now he needs to get an antipsychotic administered via shot every month so that he doesn't have another episode. My brother hasn't had his shots since January if this year, but the pharmacy delivers his meds to this Psychiatrist's office every month, incase he goes to get it. Last week, my brother cane to me, and said he's realized that he really needs the meds and can't go on without them much longer (up until then, basically denied he needed anything, saying "I'm not crazy, you can't make me") but now begging for it essentially, claiming he's now experiencing suicidal thoughts. I called, made an appointment, told his doctor everything, today we get there, expecting 6 vials, only to be told he doesn't have any left. He admitted to selling them, as each shot is worth $2,600. I'm planning to get the insurance involved, and I want to sue this man. Do I have a case? | ihcm0p0 | ihbvh2v | 1,658,599,970 | 1,658,588,591 | 6 | 5 | You are probably referring to Invega Sustenna, Abilify Maintenna, Aristada or Persaris. All these medications are $1500+ a shot. What that doctor is doing is insurance fraud and theft. Is there another psychiatric provider in your area available? This should be reported to your brothers insurance company and thebproviders licensing board. Your insurance can authorize a replacement but if you are rural or long wait list he may have to utilize an a emergency room or go for acute hospitilization voluntarily/involuntaril since he is suicidal. Edit. You should also make a police report. | it's stealing, unless he has stock to replace it exactly. I used to give chemo in an oncologist office, and we had this happen occasionally with chemo meds. we would set that particular patients meds aside, dipping into them only if we were out of something that day, and would replace it from stock as soon as we received the item. sounds like doc had no "floor stock" supply to replenish the private supply. Thief. | 1 | 11,379 | 1.2 |
qa7fsc | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | 5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail. Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. (She’s okay now thank goodness) Well..They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help. This is in US, IA. | hh12xkp | hh15ct5 | 1,634,503,941 | 1,634,504,965 | 2 | 246 | ---
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Title: **5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail.**
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> Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. > > Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. > > My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. > > What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help.
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qa7fsc | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | 5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail. Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. (She’s okay now thank goodness) Well..They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help. This is in US, IA. | hh1cnc3 | hh12xkp | 1,634,508,169 | 1,634,503,941 | 213 | 2 | Not a lawyer. Your uncle committed mail fraud and either individually or with his siblings also likely committed wire fraud. Contact the police and give them all details. Also get a restraining order against them. Make sure your grandma is ready to see this through against her kids, as they will use an emotional appeal to get her to drop the charges. | ---
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Author: /u/Ashamed_Rips
Title: **5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail.**
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> Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. > > Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. > > My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. > > What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help.
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qa7fsc | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | 5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail. Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. (She’s okay now thank goodness) Well..They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help. This is in US, IA. | hh12xkp | hh1q301 | 1,634,503,941 | 1,634,514,509 | 2 | 98 | ---
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Author: /u/Ashamed_Rips
Title: **5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail.**
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> Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. > > Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. > > My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. > > What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help.
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LocationBot 4.99998891 ^109/37rds | Report Issues | >!adEb1pVeCtmYyUjb!< | You need an attorney who specializes in elderly abuse. A civil lawsuit would have to be filed for the return of her money, the police will do nothing but write a report. Unfortunately, senior citizens are very reluctant to sue their family members. | 0 | 10,568 | 49 |
qa7fsc | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | 5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail. Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. (She’s okay now thank goodness) Well..They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help. This is in US, IA. | hh2ekzw | hh2ckud | 1,634,526,893 | 1,634,525,823 | 45 | 19 | First off, file a police report. Then she needs to follow the guide here from identitytheft.gov. Check her credit reports, lock down all accounts, replace credit cards, and make sure they aren't listed as accountholders on anything. Take notes of anything suspicious (new accounts created, recently sent "replacement" cards, etc. u/ThinkerWhoTinkers is right about this being mail and/or wire fraud, and that a restraining order is a good step. I would also suggest she revisit the will with an estate attorney, in case someone was part of the will and the shenanigans (and thus should be removed from the will). However, she can also go after them for trespassing. It is also advisable to check the house and make sure any small valuables didn't vanish. Keepsakes, jewelry, coins, guns, identification documents - visually verify that they are still there. It may be too late to track them down if they were pawned, but it's possible that family members stupidly stole something and kept it. It may be worth it to get a locking residential mailbox, which will limit future attempts to get into her mail. | Contact Postmaster General on guy stealing your mail. That's a Federal crime and will start the ball rolling. | 1 | 1,070 | 2.368421 |
qa7fsc | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | 5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail. Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. (She’s okay now thank goodness) Well..They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help. This is in US, IA. | hh2ekzw | hh12xkp | 1,634,526,893 | 1,634,503,941 | 45 | 2 | First off, file a police report. Then she needs to follow the guide here from identitytheft.gov. Check her credit reports, lock down all accounts, replace credit cards, and make sure they aren't listed as accountholders on anything. Take notes of anything suspicious (new accounts created, recently sent "replacement" cards, etc. u/ThinkerWhoTinkers is right about this being mail and/or wire fraud, and that a restraining order is a good step. I would also suggest she revisit the will with an estate attorney, in case someone was part of the will and the shenanigans (and thus should be removed from the will). However, she can also go after them for trespassing. It is also advisable to check the house and make sure any small valuables didn't vanish. Keepsakes, jewelry, coins, guns, identification documents - visually verify that they are still there. It may be too late to track them down if they were pawned, but it's possible that family members stupidly stole something and kept it. It may be worth it to get a locking residential mailbox, which will limit future attempts to get into her mail. | ---
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Title: **5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail.**
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> Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. > > Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. > > My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. > > What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help.
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qa7fsc | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | 5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail. Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. (She’s okay now thank goodness) Well..They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help. This is in US, IA. | hh12xkp | hh2ckud | 1,634,503,941 | 1,634,525,823 | 2 | 19 | ---
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Title: **5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail.**
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> Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. > > Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. > > My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. > > What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help.
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qa7fsc | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | 5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail. Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. (She’s okay now thank goodness) Well..They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help. This is in US, IA. | hh12xkp | hh31kul | 1,634,503,941 | 1,634,542,841 | 2 | 9 | ---
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Author: /u/Ashamed_Rips
Title: **5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail.**
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> Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. > > Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. > > My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. > > What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help.
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LocationBot 4.99998891 ^109/37rds | Report Issues | >!adEb1pVeCtmYyUjb!< | This is a lot. When you say they have court on Tuesday... what is that for, exactly? It's not clear from your post. You're asking if they can "press charges" and it seems charges have already been pressed on *something* if they are going to court. Unless your grandma is suing them instead? Or is it a trial about elder abuse for your dad? Or a competency hearing for your grandmother, is the the family trying to POA instead of your father? The way to press charges is not by going to court, so no, she won't be able to do that in court Tuesday. What she and your dad need to do is go to the police station and fill out a report. She can also sue them for the $40k if she is not already. Look into getting a dropbox that needs a key for the mail, possibly, have your dad talk to the local post office to see what's allowed. Maybe also change the locks on her house and get new keys so that only she and your dad and other emergency people that they choose have access. How can you help your grandmother? Well, has anyone asked you to be any kind of a witness for whatever kind of court case is going on Tuesday? That would be one way. Another would be to visit her, help her with more chores and such, and make sure she is secure and safe in her home and her belongings are secured, perhaps get her a safe for important documents like her will, there are no dangerous conditions, and she has enough food and her bills are being paid. If she wants her will to stay like it is now, she should visit an attorney with your father and file it with that attorney and perhaps name a professional as executor rather than a family member. | 0 | 38,900 | 4.5 |
qa7fsc | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | 5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail. Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. (She’s okay now thank goodness) Well..They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help. This is in US, IA. | hh12xkp | hh42ro9 | 1,634,503,941 | 1,634,567,957 | 2 | 5 | ---
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Author: /u/Ashamed_Rips
Title: **5 out of the 11 children of my grandmothers just froze her bank accounts/assets and have been stealing her mail.**
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> Backstory. My grandmother got COVID and was found collapsed in her home by my father. My grandma made my dad POA and the other siblings were pissed. They decided to help my grandma and clean up her place a bit(without permission) and what does someone find? Her will. They opened her mail, and find her will. They didn’t like what they found, and put boards over my grandmas door claiming my father (Whom has been driving her everywhere and taking care of her animals for 20 years) has been causing elder abuse. The police were contacted and found nothing. > > Now, 4 months later my grandma tried to get some milk and her card was decline. Almost $40,000 gone from her reach. One uncle is taking her mail from her mailbox. They have court Tuesday and I hope charges are pressed against the family that did this to her. > > My grandmother pays her bills. She tends to her huge garden unassisted, and she gets her groceries and does everything herself. If they were concerned they would visit her daily, they would have attempted to get her an in home nurse. But they didn’t. None of them really care about her, just her money. They’re trying to break her heart and have her die so they can get her will. It’s disgusting. > > What can I do for my grandma. What can they do to fight back, can they press charges on my uncles that did this to her? I’m so livid. My grandmother would give her last dime to help her family. They are greedy and cannot be allowed to do this. Please help.
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i5gcbm | legaladvice_train | 0.85 | Mother stole grandmother’s identity and found out it was worse than she originally thought. This was the fourth victim my mother preyed on. What can be done? Back in June I reported my mother for taking advantage of my grandmother when I found out. She talked my grandmother into becoming power of attorney and moved my grandmother in after my grandfather passed. She opened loans, tried for a mortgage, opened credit cards, withdrew from my grandmother’s checking accounts, and more all without my grandmother’s knowledge. The credit cards and loans were never paid off and went to collections. The debt was around $9,000-10,000. I helped her file a report online with the FTC. I made copies and letters for her to mail to any business involved and to take to the police station. My grandmother refused to press charges, refused a restraining order against my mother for harassment despite everyone involved saying she should, and talked the aging agency that got involved into not pressing it any farther once they recovered only $3,000 of the money back. Debt collectors have been harassing her still despite having the identity theft report and are trying to scare her into paying those debts. I found out today due to a collector telling her to contact me and see if I’ll loan her money to pay them or they’ll take her to court and get the money anyway. I told her it’s a scare tactic and that I won’t give her money. She can’t afford much now that my mother ruined her so she offered to pay them smaller monthly payments and they refused. I told her she should of never said she would pay or accept the debt because she has the report to prove it was identity theft but she did so anyways. Her reason was that she already got my mother into enough trouble and she hopes that maybe my mother will forgive her(yes, I told her it should be the other way around). Since I reported it all back in June she’s found out the identity theft was a lot worse than she thought but still refuses to press charges as she feels she doesn’t have the heart to do so. My mother harasses her weekly and despite me blocking her on my grandmother’s phone when asked my grandmother turns around and unblocks her in hopes to build a relationship with her again. Debt collectors call every day, she found out there’s more accounts falsely opened, her savings is very low and she’s always stressed about how she’ll continue living off her fixed income. I’m at my wits end, I keep getting calls from her almost daily crying about this and I always suggest she press charges but she won’t. Im very vocal about how I feel my mother deserves to be charged as I had to file a report in September 2018, at the time of filing I had no clue it was my own mother that stole my identity. When I found out I chickened out of pressing charges as mine was less than $2,000 and the businesses all dropped the debt once they seen the report. I had no clue I wasn’t the first victim she did this too. I’m guessing there isn’t anything that can be done to end this because she won’t press charges herself? If something can be done who do I need to contact? Location: PA, USA | g0pmtu8 | g0pfq0k | 1,596,827,648 | 1,596,824,275 | 20 | 17 | Call your states Adult Protection Services. | I'm not sure there is much you can do if your grandmother refuses to listen to or take your advice. I understand she doesnt want to think the worst of her own daughter but ignoring everything she's done is like burying her head in the sand. Could you get a lawyer or someone professional to speak to your grandmother? I'm not sure if she would listen but having someone spell it out might open her eyes a bit. | 1 | 3,373 | 1.176471 |
i5gcbm | legaladvice_train | 0.85 | Mother stole grandmother’s identity and found out it was worse than she originally thought. This was the fourth victim my mother preyed on. What can be done? Back in June I reported my mother for taking advantage of my grandmother when I found out. She talked my grandmother into becoming power of attorney and moved my grandmother in after my grandfather passed. She opened loans, tried for a mortgage, opened credit cards, withdrew from my grandmother’s checking accounts, and more all without my grandmother’s knowledge. The credit cards and loans were never paid off and went to collections. The debt was around $9,000-10,000. I helped her file a report online with the FTC. I made copies and letters for her to mail to any business involved and to take to the police station. My grandmother refused to press charges, refused a restraining order against my mother for harassment despite everyone involved saying she should, and talked the aging agency that got involved into not pressing it any farther once they recovered only $3,000 of the money back. Debt collectors have been harassing her still despite having the identity theft report and are trying to scare her into paying those debts. I found out today due to a collector telling her to contact me and see if I’ll loan her money to pay them or they’ll take her to court and get the money anyway. I told her it’s a scare tactic and that I won’t give her money. She can’t afford much now that my mother ruined her so she offered to pay them smaller monthly payments and they refused. I told her she should of never said she would pay or accept the debt because she has the report to prove it was identity theft but she did so anyways. Her reason was that she already got my mother into enough trouble and she hopes that maybe my mother will forgive her(yes, I told her it should be the other way around). Since I reported it all back in June she’s found out the identity theft was a lot worse than she thought but still refuses to press charges as she feels she doesn’t have the heart to do so. My mother harasses her weekly and despite me blocking her on my grandmother’s phone when asked my grandmother turns around and unblocks her in hopes to build a relationship with her again. Debt collectors call every day, she found out there’s more accounts falsely opened, her savings is very low and she’s always stressed about how she’ll continue living off her fixed income. I’m at my wits end, I keep getting calls from her almost daily crying about this and I always suggest she press charges but she won’t. Im very vocal about how I feel my mother deserves to be charged as I had to file a report in September 2018, at the time of filing I had no clue it was my own mother that stole my identity. When I found out I chickened out of pressing charges as mine was less than $2,000 and the businesses all dropped the debt once they seen the report. I had no clue I wasn’t the first victim she did this too. I’m guessing there isn’t anything that can be done to end this because she won’t press charges herself? If something can be done who do I need to contact? Location: PA, USA | g0pm8vu | g0pmtu8 | 1,596,827,380 | 1,596,827,648 | 7 | 20 | Have you considered an adult guardianship or conservatorship? | Call your states Adult Protection Services. | 0 | 268 | 2.857143 |
3rajwf | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | I'm a teacher in CA. A student used my facebook profile picture to create a fake instagram account and sent creepy messages to high school girls. He's fessed up to it and deleted the fake account. What can/should I do? The principal has suspended him and stipulated that he contact everyone and make it known that I had no part. I'm still uncomfortable. He's a 7th grader ~12-13 years old. | cwmqsyj | cwmn7bj | 1,446,548,339 | 1,446,534,080 | 24 | 6 | The only other thing I think you need to do is ask that a letter or other written document detailing what has happened be placed in your personnel file with a copy given to you. That way if the incident comes up years later you are covered. | I wonder if you can ask the principal to reach out to the local police's community affairs people or a school counselor to have a sit down with our young friend to help him understand the potential consequences of his actions for OP? | 1 | 14,259 | 4 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0ddr9i | d0d9gxy | 1,456,417,754 | 1,456,411,227 | 86 | 80 | This has happened to me, whereby someone used my address to commit fraud. It's called mail fraud or address fraud. Identity theft also happens this way. You can file a complaint with the USPS. | 1 | 6,527 | 1.075 |
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47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0dbscs | d0ddr9i | 1,456,414,948 | 1,456,417,754 | 47 | 86 | Does she have a child that she's getting into a better school, by using your address? | This has happened to me, whereby someone used my address to commit fraud. It's called mail fraud or address fraud. Identity theft also happens this way. You can file a complaint with the USPS. | 0 | 2,806 | 1.829787 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0ddffq | d0ddr9i | 1,456,417,307 | 1,456,417,754 | 33 | 86 | This is something that pops up in my practice. Here are some things I have done: * Send Affidavit to local Postmaster. * Send Affidavit to your states DMV * Contact local authorities and file a report for identity theft. Do they work? I don't know, usually I am doing it cause a client is being accused of having an unautorized occupant so these are things to alert people to the issue. Sometimes it stops, sometimes it doesn't, couldn't tell you why or why not. | This has happened to me, whereby someone used my address to commit fraud. It's called mail fraud or address fraud. Identity theft also happens this way. You can file a complaint with the USPS. | 0 | 447 | 2.606061 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0d9fg0 | d0ddr9i | 1,456,411,154 | 1,456,417,754 | 12 | 86 | I don't know what to tell you OP. Hopefully someone else has experience or has heard of this happening before. All I want to say is not to follow Malachi's second post advice (mailing her stuff to her place of employment). While it may not be illegal per se, it's asking for things to escalate higher and faster than they need to. There's a better answer to your problem out there. It's just a matter of figuring it out. | This has happened to me, whereby someone used my address to commit fraud. It's called mail fraud or address fraud. Identity theft also happens this way. You can file a complaint with the USPS. | 0 | 6,600 | 7.166667 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0dceg8 | d0ddr9i | 1,456,415,847 | 1,456,417,754 | 8 | 86 | Your husband should report her to the police for harassment clarifying she has never lived at your address and make sure to mention that you have been told she falsified her ID. Also, keep an eye on your credit reports. If you know her actual address, you could inform the senders of this. | This has happened to me, whereby someone used my address to commit fraud. It's called mail fraud or address fraud. Identity theft also happens this way. You can file a complaint with the USPS. | 0 | 1,907 | 10.75 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0ddr9i | d0d9bfz | 1,456,417,754 | 1,456,410,965 | 86 | 7 | This has happened to me, whereby someone used my address to commit fraud. It's called mail fraud or address fraud. Identity theft also happens this way. You can file a complaint with the USPS. | I am not a lawyer, but in addition to what everyone else has said, I don't see any reason not to file a police report. She's lying to the government, I'm sure she's broken the law. | 1 | 6,789 | 12.285714 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0d9fg0 | d0d9gxy | 1,456,411,154 | 1,456,411,227 | 12 | 80 | I don't know what to tell you OP. Hopefully someone else has experience or has heard of this happening before. All I want to say is not to follow Malachi's second post advice (mailing her stuff to her place of employment). While it may not be illegal per se, it's asking for things to escalate higher and faster than they need to. There's a better answer to your problem out there. It's just a matter of figuring it out. | 0 | 73 | 6.666667 |
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47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0d9bfz | d0d9gxy | 1,456,410,965 | 1,456,411,227 | 7 | 80 | I am not a lawyer, but in addition to what everyone else has said, I don't see any reason not to file a police report. She's lying to the government, I'm sure she's broken the law. | 0 | 262 | 11.428571 |
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47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0dbscs | d0d9fg0 | 1,456,414,948 | 1,456,411,154 | 47 | 12 | Does she have a child that she's getting into a better school, by using your address? | I don't know what to tell you OP. Hopefully someone else has experience or has heard of this happening before. All I want to say is not to follow Malachi's second post advice (mailing her stuff to her place of employment). While it may not be illegal per se, it's asking for things to escalate higher and faster than they need to. There's a better answer to your problem out there. It's just a matter of figuring it out. | 1 | 3,794 | 3.916667 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0d9bfz | d0dbscs | 1,456,410,965 | 1,456,414,948 | 7 | 47 | I am not a lawyer, but in addition to what everyone else has said, I don't see any reason not to file a police report. She's lying to the government, I'm sure she's broken the law. | Does she have a child that she's getting into a better school, by using your address? | 0 | 3,983 | 6.714286 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0d9fg0 | d0dg4t5 | 1,456,411,154 | 1,456,420,997 | 12 | 33 | I don't know what to tell you OP. Hopefully someone else has experience or has heard of this happening before. All I want to say is not to follow Malachi's second post advice (mailing her stuff to her place of employment). While it may not be illegal per se, it's asking for things to escalate higher and faster than they need to. There's a better answer to your problem out there. It's just a matter of figuring it out. | /u/locationbot only needs like 5 more lines of code to start automatically recognizing this nuttery as Florida. | 0 | 9,843 | 2.75 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0dg4t5 | d0dceg8 | 1,456,420,997 | 1,456,415,847 | 33 | 8 | /u/locationbot only needs like 5 more lines of code to start automatically recognizing this nuttery as Florida. | Your husband should report her to the police for harassment clarifying she has never lived at your address and make sure to mention that you have been told she falsified her ID. Also, keep an eye on your credit reports. If you know her actual address, you could inform the senders of this. | 1 | 5,150 | 4.125 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0dg4t5 | d0d9bfz | 1,456,420,997 | 1,456,410,965 | 33 | 7 | /u/locationbot only needs like 5 more lines of code to start automatically recognizing this nuttery as Florida. | I am not a lawyer, but in addition to what everyone else has said, I don't see any reason not to file a police report. She's lying to the government, I'm sure she's broken the law. | 1 | 10,032 | 4.714286 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0ddffq | d0d9fg0 | 1,456,417,307 | 1,456,411,154 | 33 | 12 | This is something that pops up in my practice. Here are some things I have done: * Send Affidavit to local Postmaster. * Send Affidavit to your states DMV * Contact local authorities and file a report for identity theft. Do they work? I don't know, usually I am doing it cause a client is being accused of having an unautorized occupant so these are things to alert people to the issue. Sometimes it stops, sometimes it doesn't, couldn't tell you why or why not. | I don't know what to tell you OP. Hopefully someone else has experience or has heard of this happening before. All I want to say is not to follow Malachi's second post advice (mailing her stuff to her place of employment). While it may not be illegal per se, it's asking for things to escalate higher and faster than they need to. There's a better answer to your problem out there. It's just a matter of figuring it out. | 1 | 6,153 | 2.75 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0dceg8 | d0ddffq | 1,456,415,847 | 1,456,417,307 | 8 | 33 | Your husband should report her to the police for harassment clarifying she has never lived at your address and make sure to mention that you have been told she falsified her ID. Also, keep an eye on your credit reports. If you know her actual address, you could inform the senders of this. | This is something that pops up in my practice. Here are some things I have done: * Send Affidavit to local Postmaster. * Send Affidavit to your states DMV * Contact local authorities and file a report for identity theft. Do they work? I don't know, usually I am doing it cause a client is being accused of having an unautorized occupant so these are things to alert people to the issue. Sometimes it stops, sometimes it doesn't, couldn't tell you why or why not. | 0 | 1,460 | 4.125 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0ddffq | d0d9bfz | 1,456,417,307 | 1,456,410,965 | 33 | 7 | This is something that pops up in my practice. Here are some things I have done: * Send Affidavit to local Postmaster. * Send Affidavit to your states DMV * Contact local authorities and file a report for identity theft. Do they work? I don't know, usually I am doing it cause a client is being accused of having an unautorized occupant so these are things to alert people to the issue. Sometimes it stops, sometimes it doesn't, couldn't tell you why or why not. | I am not a lawyer, but in addition to what everyone else has said, I don't see any reason not to file a police report. She's lying to the government, I'm sure she's broken the law. | 1 | 6,342 | 4.714286 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0d9bfz | d0d9fg0 | 1,456,410,965 | 1,456,411,154 | 7 | 12 | I am not a lawyer, but in addition to what everyone else has said, I don't see any reason not to file a police report. She's lying to the government, I'm sure she's broken the law. | I don't know what to tell you OP. Hopefully someone else has experience or has heard of this happening before. All I want to say is not to follow Malachi's second post advice (mailing her stuff to her place of employment). While it may not be illegal per se, it's asking for things to escalate higher and faster than they need to. There's a better answer to your problem out there. It's just a matter of figuring it out. | 0 | 189 | 1.714286 |
47iovj | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (FL) Husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. My husbands ex-wife keeps claiming to live at our address. She puts on everything from magazine subscriptions to government documents. All her crap ends up here. She has **never** lived here. We mark all the mail return to sender. She changed her address to ours at the post office and according to a friend of ours(owns a car dealership, she test drive something) she even changed her drivers license. We live in a gated community so it's not like she can take the mail. What can we do to make this stop? | d0d9bfz | d0dceg8 | 1,456,410,965 | 1,456,415,847 | 7 | 8 | I am not a lawyer, but in addition to what everyone else has said, I don't see any reason not to file a police report. She's lying to the government, I'm sure she's broken the law. | Your husband should report her to the police for harassment clarifying she has never lived at your address and make sure to mention that you have been told she falsified her ID. Also, keep an eye on your credit reports. If you know her actual address, you could inform the senders of this. | 0 | 4,882 | 1.142857 |
hp7h7q | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My husband’s ex wife is asking for money for their adult children- past the age of child support. Hello! Just a quick question. I’m hoping someone can guide us to the right direction. My husband has an ex wife and 2 children who are 38 and 40. My husband paid child support and had a life insurance policy (in case he passed while they were on child support) up until they were done with college. So it has been almost 20 years since he has had to pay anything. Now his ex wife is threatening to sue my husband and is harassing him for the life insurance policy money. According to her it was a permanent policy and according to my husband it was only while he paid child support. How can I find out what the real divorce settlement was? What should I do? What is the quickest way to close this up and get her to leave us alone? We are in NJ if that makes a difference. | fxnhow5 | fxnmte5 | 1,594,464,942 | 1,594,467,381 | 9 | 11 | Not a lawyer - live in NJ and needed a copy of my mother's divorce decree after she died. If he does not have a certified copy of his divorce decree, he really should get one. Since it has been a while since they were divorce, the papers are in Trenton. Call the superior court where the divorce was filed and get the docket number. Call Trenton and get a copy. There will be a charge, but not a lot. | As other commenters have said, you'll have to look at the divorce decree and the separation agreement (if there is one). These records can be obtained from the court (https://njcourts.gov/forms/10200_records_req.pdf?c=wi3). I suspect, however, that your husband was obliged to maintain insurance during the time he was paying support, as security to ensure the support obligation would be paid even if he died. I seriously doubt that any insurance obligation extended beyond the period of support, which has long passed. | 0 | 2,439 | 1.222222 |
hp7h7q | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My husband’s ex wife is asking for money for their adult children- past the age of child support. Hello! Just a quick question. I’m hoping someone can guide us to the right direction. My husband has an ex wife and 2 children who are 38 and 40. My husband paid child support and had a life insurance policy (in case he passed while they were on child support) up until they were done with college. So it has been almost 20 years since he has had to pay anything. Now his ex wife is threatening to sue my husband and is harassing him for the life insurance policy money. According to her it was a permanent policy and according to my husband it was only while he paid child support. How can I find out what the real divorce settlement was? What should I do? What is the quickest way to close this up and get her to leave us alone? We are in NJ if that makes a difference. | fxnfsk6 | fxnhow5 | 1,594,464,249 | 1,594,464,942 | 7 | 9 | Ignore her unless sued. It's easy to talk about suing someone; all you have to do is flap your lips. Most people don't actually do it. | Not a lawyer - live in NJ and needed a copy of my mother's divorce decree after she died. If he does not have a certified copy of his divorce decree, he really should get one. Since it has been a while since they were divorce, the papers are in Trenton. Call the superior court where the divorce was filed and get the docket number. Call Trenton and get a copy. There will be a charge, but not a lot. | 0 | 693 | 1.285714 |
hp7h7q | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My husband’s ex wife is asking for money for their adult children- past the age of child support. Hello! Just a quick question. I’m hoping someone can guide us to the right direction. My husband has an ex wife and 2 children who are 38 and 40. My husband paid child support and had a life insurance policy (in case he passed while they were on child support) up until they were done with college. So it has been almost 20 years since he has had to pay anything. Now his ex wife is threatening to sue my husband and is harassing him for the life insurance policy money. According to her it was a permanent policy and according to my husband it was only while he paid child support. How can I find out what the real divorce settlement was? What should I do? What is the quickest way to close this up and get her to leave us alone? We are in NJ if that makes a difference. | fxnfsk6 | fxnmte5 | 1,594,464,249 | 1,594,467,381 | 7 | 11 | Ignore her unless sued. It's easy to talk about suing someone; all you have to do is flap your lips. Most people don't actually do it. | As other commenters have said, you'll have to look at the divorce decree and the separation agreement (if there is one). These records can be obtained from the court (https://njcourts.gov/forms/10200_records_req.pdf?c=wi3). I suspect, however, that your husband was obliged to maintain insurance during the time he was paying support, as security to ensure the support obligation would be paid even if he died. I seriously doubt that any insurance obligation extended beyond the period of support, which has long passed. | 0 | 3,132 | 1.571429 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvjz0q8 | fvkuk6x | 1,592,760,188 | 1,592,777,429 | 213 | 476 | The only advice anyone can give you is to get a family law attorney to read your agreement and react according to what's reasonable for the facts and the agreement. It's cliche for the sub, but it's true. | Not a lawyer but I have gone through this situation in California. Contact the State Department and get the passport flagged. Here is their website for Child Abduction prevention. Meet with an attorney (California has Certified Family Law Specialists) and get a ex parte order and have the child's passport kept by your attorney. Have your custody order modified to indicate that the passport can only be released by stipulation with a court order. The D.A's office may issue an alert to nearby airports and airlines. Have a copy of your child's and ex wife's photo ready so they can transmit it to law enforcement and the airlines at the airports. Act NOW. Don't wait. | 0 | 17,241 | 2.234742 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvkuk6x | fvk0rhm | 1,592,777,429 | 1,592,761,133 | 476 | 63 | Not a lawyer but I have gone through this situation in California. Contact the State Department and get the passport flagged. Here is their website for Child Abduction prevention. Meet with an attorney (California has Certified Family Law Specialists) and get a ex parte order and have the child's passport kept by your attorney. Have your custody order modified to indicate that the passport can only be released by stipulation with a court order. The D.A's office may issue an alert to nearby airports and airlines. Have a copy of your child's and ex wife's photo ready so they can transmit it to law enforcement and the airlines at the airports. Act NOW. Don't wait. | Not a lawyer. In the case of her attempting to leave the country, I would recommend reaching out to the Office of Children’s Issues at the State Department; they deal with passports for minors, among other things—for instance, if your ex wife were ordered to surrender the children’s passports to the court pending a final custody order. | 1 | 16,296 | 7.555556 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvk5ia4 | fvkuk6x | 1,592,763,701 | 1,592,777,429 | 63 | 476 | I am a lawyer, but not in CA. Something would need to be filed with the Court if you don’t hear from them or you find they’ve left. It sounds like proceedings are underway, and this may be considered an emergency to allow for expedited processes to at least get something ordered about passports of the children. Best of luck. | Not a lawyer but I have gone through this situation in California. Contact the State Department and get the passport flagged. Here is their website for Child Abduction prevention. Meet with an attorney (California has Certified Family Law Specialists) and get a ex parte order and have the child's passport kept by your attorney. Have your custody order modified to indicate that the passport can only be released by stipulation with a court order. The D.A's office may issue an alert to nearby airports and airlines. Have a copy of your child's and ex wife's photo ready so they can transmit it to law enforcement and the airlines at the airports. Act NOW. Don't wait. | 0 | 13,728 | 7.555556 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvkuk6x | fvkajlp | 1,592,777,429 | 1,592,766,397 | 476 | 38 | Not a lawyer but I have gone through this situation in California. Contact the State Department and get the passport flagged. Here is their website for Child Abduction prevention. Meet with an attorney (California has Certified Family Law Specialists) and get a ex parte order and have the child's passport kept by your attorney. Have your custody order modified to indicate that the passport can only be released by stipulation with a court order. The D.A's office may issue an alert to nearby airports and airlines. Have a copy of your child's and ex wife's photo ready so they can transmit it to law enforcement and the airlines at the airports. Act NOW. Don't wait. | It is time to call the police where she lives for a welfare check on the children. Did she go off in a vehicle? Police may issue a BOLO (be on the lookout). If she has behavioral health or substance abuse problems, or the children are medically vulnerable, the police may issue an Amber Alert. They may also be able to find out if she and the kids have crossed the US-Mexico border. | 1 | 11,032 | 12.526316 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvk0y2s | fvkuk6x | 1,592,761,232 | 1,592,777,429 | 27 | 476 | Check if the court can hold their passports. | Not a lawyer but I have gone through this situation in California. Contact the State Department and get the passport flagged. Here is their website for Child Abduction prevention. Meet with an attorney (California has Certified Family Law Specialists) and get a ex parte order and have the child's passport kept by your attorney. Have your custody order modified to indicate that the passport can only be released by stipulation with a court order. The D.A's office may issue an alert to nearby airports and airlines. Have a copy of your child's and ex wife's photo ready so they can transmit it to law enforcement and the airlines at the airports. Act NOW. Don't wait. | 0 | 16,197 | 17.62963 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvkk3qt | fvkuk6x | 1,592,771,615 | 1,592,777,429 | 21 | 476 | See to having the passports held in the possession of the courts or a court appointed guardian for the kids. Then both of you have to run any trips by them. As for no contact, call your lawyer and see your options. They may contact her lawyer for you or suggest you call the police for a welfare check | Not a lawyer but I have gone through this situation in California. Contact the State Department and get the passport flagged. Here is their website for Child Abduction prevention. Meet with an attorney (California has Certified Family Law Specialists) and get a ex parte order and have the child's passport kept by your attorney. Have your custody order modified to indicate that the passport can only be released by stipulation with a court order. The D.A's office may issue an alert to nearby airports and airlines. Have a copy of your child's and ex wife's photo ready so they can transmit it to law enforcement and the airlines at the airports. Act NOW. Don't wait. | 0 | 5,814 | 22.666667 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvkfdx4 | fvkuk6x | 1,592,769,009 | 1,592,777,429 | 21 | 476 | Call the police, file what’s a called a parental child abduction report. Don’t take no for an answer. Ask for a supervisor if they deny you Make sure you have your custody paperwork available Monday Call the DAs office in your area and speak to an ADA. They will be helpful. Also get to the courthouse and file and emergency writ. If it’s approved you’ll see a judge in I think 48 hours. —Not a lawyer just a parent | Not a lawyer but I have gone through this situation in California. Contact the State Department and get the passport flagged. Here is their website for Child Abduction prevention. Meet with an attorney (California has Certified Family Law Specialists) and get a ex parte order and have the child's passport kept by your attorney. Have your custody order modified to indicate that the passport can only be released by stipulation with a court order. The D.A's office may issue an alert to nearby airports and airlines. Have a copy of your child's and ex wife's photo ready so they can transmit it to law enforcement and the airlines at the airports. Act NOW. Don't wait. | 0 | 8,420 | 22.666667 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvk5ia4 | fvk0y2s | 1,592,763,701 | 1,592,761,232 | 63 | 27 | I am a lawyer, but not in CA. Something would need to be filed with the Court if you don’t hear from them or you find they’ve left. It sounds like proceedings are underway, and this may be considered an emergency to allow for expedited processes to at least get something ordered about passports of the children. Best of luck. | Check if the court can hold their passports. | 1 | 2,469 | 2.333333 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvkajlp | fvk0y2s | 1,592,766,397 | 1,592,761,232 | 38 | 27 | It is time to call the police where she lives for a welfare check on the children. Did she go off in a vehicle? Police may issue a BOLO (be on the lookout). If she has behavioral health or substance abuse problems, or the children are medically vulnerable, the police may issue an Amber Alert. They may also be able to find out if she and the kids have crossed the US-Mexico border. | Check if the court can hold their passports. | 1 | 5,165 | 1.407407 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvl6h2l | fvm2349 | 1,592,784,525 | 1,592,806,127 | 10 | 11 | Declare her and your children as missing persons. If it’s been 48 hours and no one has heard from them, call thee police. If you can prove or have a valid fear that she’s trying to take them out of the country, file for emergency custody. | Lawyer in Mexico. Well when a custody is settled a regime of visits and hollydays is settled too, so the custodian parent is legally obligated to watch the schedule. You can not assume she's here in Mexico as you possibly suppose (and lets be honest there's a high probability it is that way but until you are not able to proof that with solid evidence they're legally in your country). So with that in mind, if father's day was into the schedule of the visits regime and you were not able to be with your kids, you'll have to legally act in familiar court to demonstrate the following: 1) the kids are your kids 2) that you were married 3) that you divorced 4) that she has the custody 5) that a vists regime was settled 6) that the regime was approved 7) that father's day was in the schedule 8) that the regime was unobserved by her What it can lead into, depends on the local legislation but best case scenario is she losing the custody and the judge giving it to you. And if she actually took the kids into another country without your consent that's a crime that should be prosectuted in the criminal way, there's methods and cooperation between countries to seek information to legally demonstrate that the kids crossed the border but that's the prosecutor work to ask for those documents to make a case to present to court. It's tedious but you gotta follow the legal steps and there's no shortcuts. Greetings from Mexico hope you get out of this shitty situation. | 0 | 21,602 | 1.1 |
hd9q6w | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Ex-wife has stopped communicating with me and her parents for several days, we have joint legal custody of our children, she has threatened to leave with the country with the children in the past. It's Fathers day and still nothing. What are my options? My ex has physical custody but we're still working on getting permanent custody orders; we both want physical custody of the children as we live in different states. The temporary orders give her physical custody but we share legal custody. I get 3 calls a week (which I rarely get), and the children are to made available to me when I am in the state (California). She had a fight with her parents (with whom she lives) and said she was going to move out. This was on Thursday, we talked briefly on Friday morning because I was supposed to visit with our children, but she canceled last minute. Since then she has not answered any of my texts or calls, she is also not answering her parents calls. It's now Fathers day, I've texted her to see if I can see them today with no response. In the past she threatened to take the kids to Mexico, she has family there and I don't speak Spanish; also both of our children have their passports. I'm afraid she's going to take them and I might never see them again. What are my options? | fvl8bpw | fvm2349 | 1,592,785,673 | 1,592,806,127 | 3 | 11 | After they are found and you see the kids, give them Cell phones or GPS trackers if the are not old enough for phones. Unfortunately you need to teach the kids if mommy tries to take you on a long trip or airplane need to talk to daddy or grandma first, tell other adults you need help that mommy is trying to take you away. Make sure they know your phone number. | Lawyer in Mexico. Well when a custody is settled a regime of visits and hollydays is settled too, so the custodian parent is legally obligated to watch the schedule. You can not assume she's here in Mexico as you possibly suppose (and lets be honest there's a high probability it is that way but until you are not able to proof that with solid evidence they're legally in your country). So with that in mind, if father's day was into the schedule of the visits regime and you were not able to be with your kids, you'll have to legally act in familiar court to demonstrate the following: 1) the kids are your kids 2) that you were married 3) that you divorced 4) that she has the custody 5) that a vists regime was settled 6) that the regime was approved 7) that father's day was in the schedule 8) that the regime was unobserved by her What it can lead into, depends on the local legislation but best case scenario is she losing the custody and the judge giving it to you. And if she actually took the kids into another country without your consent that's a crime that should be prosectuted in the criminal way, there's methods and cooperation between countries to seek information to legally demonstrate that the kids crossed the border but that's the prosecutor work to ask for those documents to make a case to present to court. It's tedious but you gotta follow the legal steps and there's no shortcuts. Greetings from Mexico hope you get out of this shitty situation. | 0 | 20,454 | 3.666667 |
suwwvp | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | [USA] My ex wife is making false claims to our child's healthcare providers regarding my mental health and stability. These claims are being written into child's medical records. What can I do? My ex and I have been separated for nearly 5 years, we have an 8-year old daughter. We've had a contentious custody situation this entire time, but it's gotten worse ever since I motioned for a modification last year and succeeded in securing more control over my relationship with my child. I'd previously accepted a shit deal under the naive assumption that we'd be able to work things out amicably without a formal custody arrangement, and it resulted in a lot of very short visits with my daughter in the first few years of our separation. Eventually, my ex started denying time all together and that's when I was able to successfully move to modify the order. I abstain from alcohol as a personal choice, and at times over the last several years I've seen a couple of therapists to work through stressful circumstances. My ex is aware of this, and now claims that I have a history of substance abuse and mental illness, despite never running into any issues as a result of past alcohol use, nor being diagnosed with any mental illnesses at any time. The big problem -- and what my question boils down to -- is that I noticed a note in my daughter's medical records from a recent appointment. The NP at the practice (not my child's PCP) wrote a note stating that my child has been experiencing extreme anxiety due to my "sudden reappearance" in her life, that I am diagnosed bipolar, that I'm unmedicated, that I am "at times unstable," and essentially that our daughter is scared of me and is wetting the bed in response to the trauma of being "ripped away from her mother." I know that this note was a transcription of my ex's words to the NP, more or less. But none of these things are true. My daughter has repeatedly expressed to me how excited she is now that she gets to spend more time with me, and she has shown absolutely no discomfort throughout the overnights so far. I contacted my child's medical care provider about it, and pretty much all they said was that they don't like to get in the middle of these conflicts, which I totally understand. But am I within my right to ask them to strike that note from my daughter's records? If not, what other options do I have here? I'm aware that my ex could potentially be lining me up for a visit from CPS and I'm beyond prepared for it, but is there anything more proactive that I can do to get this all to stop somehow? My only thought is to attend every single appointment, but that's tough to manage with my work schedule. Any advice is greatly appreciated. \-- **TL;DR - Ex wife made false claims to child's healthcare provider that I have a diagnosed mental illness, that I'm unstable, and that my child is suffering from symptoms of trauma and distress now that she spends nights at my residence. None of it's true. What can I do?** | hxcvqub | hxcukdl | 1,645,131,093 | 1,645,130,647 | 20 | 6 | You can’t be diagnosed through someone else’s medical records. If there’s concern over if she’ll print those notes to use in court, I’d personally have my doctor write a letter on letterhead stating you’ve been their client for x length of time and you’ve never been diagnosed with bipolar or any other serious mental illness (presuming that’s true), have them sign the letter, then put it in a sealed envelope with their signature again over the seal. Run everything by your lawyer first before doing anything, but that would be a way to potentially get the argument thrown out without bringing your own medical records and specific diagnoses/treatment into the mix. And stay prepared for a CPS interview just in case, but if all of this is true, your daughter honestly says that she’s happy to get to see you more, and you’re level-headed during the interview with nothing at home that poses a major hazard, you shouldn’t have anything to worry about. She can’t wave around a note from a person you may have never met, much less been diagnosed by, and use that as proof to say you’re bipolar. I’d also suggest getting your daughter into therapy as well. I’m a strong proponent that therapy is for everyone, but messy custody situations can put a lot of stress on kids. Help her learn now that this isn’t her fault and how she can cope when those feelings get hard to deal with. Even kids should get time with their therapist with parents out of the room, so they would be able to assess for signs of trauma and other feelings or struggles in a safe space without her feeling pressure to say one thing or another because a parent is in the room. | The subjective portion of medical documentation is just that, subjective. The child or parent can say anything and the provider can and/or will document that it was stated during the visit in their note. That is not an official diagnosis of you. It is just record of a statement. No one can diagnosis you with a disorder without an actual evaluation of yourself. Their is no way to have this removed, and it isn’t against the law for a medical provider to document things told to them during a visit even if you believe them not to be true. I don’t know how or if this could be used against you but that would be a question for your attorney handling your custody case. | 1 | 446 | 3.333333 |
suwwvp | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | [USA] My ex wife is making false claims to our child's healthcare providers regarding my mental health and stability. These claims are being written into child's medical records. What can I do? My ex and I have been separated for nearly 5 years, we have an 8-year old daughter. We've had a contentious custody situation this entire time, but it's gotten worse ever since I motioned for a modification last year and succeeded in securing more control over my relationship with my child. I'd previously accepted a shit deal under the naive assumption that we'd be able to work things out amicably without a formal custody arrangement, and it resulted in a lot of very short visits with my daughter in the first few years of our separation. Eventually, my ex started denying time all together and that's when I was able to successfully move to modify the order. I abstain from alcohol as a personal choice, and at times over the last several years I've seen a couple of therapists to work through stressful circumstances. My ex is aware of this, and now claims that I have a history of substance abuse and mental illness, despite never running into any issues as a result of past alcohol use, nor being diagnosed with any mental illnesses at any time. The big problem -- and what my question boils down to -- is that I noticed a note in my daughter's medical records from a recent appointment. The NP at the practice (not my child's PCP) wrote a note stating that my child has been experiencing extreme anxiety due to my "sudden reappearance" in her life, that I am diagnosed bipolar, that I'm unmedicated, that I am "at times unstable," and essentially that our daughter is scared of me and is wetting the bed in response to the trauma of being "ripped away from her mother." I know that this note was a transcription of my ex's words to the NP, more or less. But none of these things are true. My daughter has repeatedly expressed to me how excited she is now that she gets to spend more time with me, and she has shown absolutely no discomfort throughout the overnights so far. I contacted my child's medical care provider about it, and pretty much all they said was that they don't like to get in the middle of these conflicts, which I totally understand. But am I within my right to ask them to strike that note from my daughter's records? If not, what other options do I have here? I'm aware that my ex could potentially be lining me up for a visit from CPS and I'm beyond prepared for it, but is there anything more proactive that I can do to get this all to stop somehow? My only thought is to attend every single appointment, but that's tough to manage with my work schedule. Any advice is greatly appreciated. \-- **TL;DR - Ex wife made false claims to child's healthcare provider that I have a diagnosed mental illness, that I'm unstable, and that my child is suffering from symptoms of trauma and distress now that she spends nights at my residence. None of it's true. What can I do?** | hxcukdl | hxd3t5p | 1,645,130,647 | 1,645,134,140 | 6 | 15 | The subjective portion of medical documentation is just that, subjective. The child or parent can say anything and the provider can and/or will document that it was stated during the visit in their note. That is not an official diagnosis of you. It is just record of a statement. No one can diagnosis you with a disorder without an actual evaluation of yourself. Their is no way to have this removed, and it isn’t against the law for a medical provider to document things told to them during a visit even if you believe them not to be true. I don’t know how or if this could be used against you but that would be a question for your attorney handling your custody case. | When you called the doctors office, did you specifically ask what the procedure is for correcting your child’s medical record? As long as you are a legal guardian, you should be able to fill out a form requesting that the erroneous family history be corrected. I think this has less to do with custody and more to do with the possibility that the incorrect notation that you have a hereditable mental illness might affect her diagnosis and treatment. | 0 | 3,493 | 2.5 |
pq6nb7 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor trespassed into our backyard and cut down our tree… Can we do anything? Hi all, So my backyard is completely fenced in. We have a few small trees along the perimeter of our property. Apparently our neighbor (we share a backyard property border, so he is directly behind us) knocked on our door this morning, but since we didn’t answer, felt he was entitled to hop our fence with a chainsaw and cut down our tree. The tree was fully on our property, with some of the branches above the fence line and going onto his property. He then left the entire tree in our backyard and left. We came home and when confronting him, said he was doing us a favor but that he would help us “clean our yard up tomorrow”. Do we have any rights to legal action??? His sense of entitlement is just blowing my mind right now. Please advise! Thank you!! | hd8qjv2 | hd8ribd | 1,631,906,019 | 1,631,906,429 | 5 | 1,148 | ---
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LocationBot 4.99998891 ^109/37rds | Report Issues | >!adEb1pVeCtmYyUjb!< | A report to the police to start would be prudent. That could likely be trespassing as well as property damage. The neighbor would likely have been entitled to trim the portion of the tree overhanging his property, but not to the extent that it would kill the tree -- and certainly not the entire tree, on your property. Some trees are worth a lot, some not so much -- it can depend on both type and age of the tree. If you feel this tree was worth a good amount, suing your neighbor for the value of that tree would be an option -- an arborist would be able to give you a good estimate of what the tree might have been worth. If it were me, after my neighbor trespassed one time and cut down my tree, I would absolutely not allow them back onto the property again. I'd hire professionals to clean up the felled tree and tack that cost onto the lawsuit against him. But that's just me. | 0 | 410 | 229.6 |
pq6nb7 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor trespassed into our backyard and cut down our tree… Can we do anything? Hi all, So my backyard is completely fenced in. We have a few small trees along the perimeter of our property. Apparently our neighbor (we share a backyard property border, so he is directly behind us) knocked on our door this morning, but since we didn’t answer, felt he was entitled to hop our fence with a chainsaw and cut down our tree. The tree was fully on our property, with some of the branches above the fence line and going onto his property. He then left the entire tree in our backyard and left. We came home and when confronting him, said he was doing us a favor but that he would help us “clean our yard up tomorrow”. Do we have any rights to legal action??? His sense of entitlement is just blowing my mind right now. Please advise! Thank you!! | hd91kb5 | hd92rdb | 1,631,910,694 | 1,631,911,205 | 200 | 531 | And the neighbor was so happy, he even admitted to cutting it, and is willing to haul it off your property at no cost? Well, then that Tree has value. OP, if your neighbor didn't like your tree, then cutting it down, and making it your problem, would make this simple. But since neighbor volunteered to haul it off, then the lumber has potential value. Don't let neighbor back onto your property until you've gotten a arborist to appraise your tree. Oak Tree? What type of tree is it? Would it's root system help ensure erosion of your land won't occur. Besides the fence line, what else does that tree have value to you? Privacy? OP, seek your next steps ASAP. | Oh boy. You have stumbled into a situation covered by …. Tree law. Look up tree law for your state. Collect photos, contact an arborist, and have the police file a report and trespass your neighbor. Tree law is designed to prevent logging where it shouldn’t happen so the damages you are entitled to are often magnified depending on the state you’re in. | 0 | 511 | 2.655 |
pq6nb7 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor trespassed into our backyard and cut down our tree… Can we do anything? Hi all, So my backyard is completely fenced in. We have a few small trees along the perimeter of our property. Apparently our neighbor (we share a backyard property border, so he is directly behind us) knocked on our door this morning, but since we didn’t answer, felt he was entitled to hop our fence with a chainsaw and cut down our tree. The tree was fully on our property, with some of the branches above the fence line and going onto his property. He then left the entire tree in our backyard and left. We came home and when confronting him, said he was doing us a favor but that he would help us “clean our yard up tomorrow”. Do we have any rights to legal action??? His sense of entitlement is just blowing my mind right now. Please advise! Thank you!! | hd92rdb | hd8qjv2 | 1,631,911,205 | 1,631,906,019 | 531 | 5 | Oh boy. You have stumbled into a situation covered by …. Tree law. Look up tree law for your state. Collect photos, contact an arborist, and have the police file a report and trespass your neighbor. Tree law is designed to prevent logging where it shouldn’t happen so the damages you are entitled to are often magnified depending on the state you’re in. | ---
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> Hi all, > > So my backyard is completely fenced in. We have a few small trees along the perimeter of our property. Apparently our neighbor (we share a backyard property border, so he is directly behind us) knocked on our door this morning, but since we didn’t answer, felt he was entitled to hop our fence with a chainsaw and cut down our tree. The tree was fully on our property, with some of the branches above the fence line and going onto his property. > > He then left the entire tree in our backyard and left. We came home and when confronting him, said he was doing us a favor but that he would help us “clean our yard up tomorrow”. > > Do we have any rights to legal action??? His sense of entitlement is just blowing my mind right now. Please advise! Thank you!!
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pq6nb7 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor trespassed into our backyard and cut down our tree… Can we do anything? Hi all, So my backyard is completely fenced in. We have a few small trees along the perimeter of our property. Apparently our neighbor (we share a backyard property border, so he is directly behind us) knocked on our door this morning, but since we didn’t answer, felt he was entitled to hop our fence with a chainsaw and cut down our tree. The tree was fully on our property, with some of the branches above the fence line and going onto his property. He then left the entire tree in our backyard and left. We came home and when confronting him, said he was doing us a favor but that he would help us “clean our yard up tomorrow”. Do we have any rights to legal action??? His sense of entitlement is just blowing my mind right now. Please advise! Thank you!! | hd99bhm | hd98qvo | 1,631,914,088 | 1,631,913,830 | 168 | 51 | Not a lawyer. Tree law is a real thing. File a report and call an arborist. Depending on the type of tree, it could be worth a lot of money but more the entitlement is unreal and he deserves some kind of consequence. | If you can, get it in writing (text counts) or on recording (adhering to one- and two-party laws in your state) that he took it on himself to cut it down. Bonus if he admits to the trespass. Reason being is one, to protect yourself from him claiming you asked him to do it; and two, in some states (you didn't mention yours) you may be entitled to treble (up to triple) damages for such an intentional destruction of a tree. Damages may not be just the value of the wood, or the cost of stump removal and a sapling, either. Since you wanted the tree and he did this without your permission, you may be entitled to the cost of replacing the tree with one of like size, health, and age, including labor and transportation. Before he can haul the tree away, get a quote (or quotes) from an arborist(s) as to the , and find a lawyer who is skilled in tree law. Yes, that's a thing. | 1 | 258 | 3.294118 |
pq6nb7 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor trespassed into our backyard and cut down our tree… Can we do anything? Hi all, So my backyard is completely fenced in. We have a few small trees along the perimeter of our property. Apparently our neighbor (we share a backyard property border, so he is directly behind us) knocked on our door this morning, but since we didn’t answer, felt he was entitled to hop our fence with a chainsaw and cut down our tree. The tree was fully on our property, with some of the branches above the fence line and going onto his property. He then left the entire tree in our backyard and left. We came home and when confronting him, said he was doing us a favor but that he would help us “clean our yard up tomorrow”. Do we have any rights to legal action??? His sense of entitlement is just blowing my mind right now. Please advise! Thank you!! | hd99bhm | hd8qjv2 | 1,631,914,088 | 1,631,906,019 | 168 | 5 | Not a lawyer. Tree law is a real thing. File a report and call an arborist. Depending on the type of tree, it could be worth a lot of money but more the entitlement is unreal and he deserves some kind of consequence. | ---
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pq6nb7 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor trespassed into our backyard and cut down our tree… Can we do anything? Hi all, So my backyard is completely fenced in. We have a few small trees along the perimeter of our property. Apparently our neighbor (we share a backyard property border, so he is directly behind us) knocked on our door this morning, but since we didn’t answer, felt he was entitled to hop our fence with a chainsaw and cut down our tree. The tree was fully on our property, with some of the branches above the fence line and going onto his property. He then left the entire tree in our backyard and left. We came home and when confronting him, said he was doing us a favor but that he would help us “clean our yard up tomorrow”. Do we have any rights to legal action??? His sense of entitlement is just blowing my mind right now. Please advise! Thank you!! | hd98qvo | hd8qjv2 | 1,631,913,830 | 1,631,906,019 | 51 | 5 | If you can, get it in writing (text counts) or on recording (adhering to one- and two-party laws in your state) that he took it on himself to cut it down. Bonus if he admits to the trespass. Reason being is one, to protect yourself from him claiming you asked him to do it; and two, in some states (you didn't mention yours) you may be entitled to treble (up to triple) damages for such an intentional destruction of a tree. Damages may not be just the value of the wood, or the cost of stump removal and a sapling, either. Since you wanted the tree and he did this without your permission, you may be entitled to the cost of replacing the tree with one of like size, health, and age, including labor and transportation. Before he can haul the tree away, get a quote (or quotes) from an arborist(s) as to the , and find a lawyer who is skilled in tree law. Yes, that's a thing. | ---
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> Hi all, > > So my backyard is completely fenced in. We have a few small trees along the perimeter of our property. Apparently our neighbor (we share a backyard property border, so he is directly behind us) knocked on our door this morning, but since we didn’t answer, felt he was entitled to hop our fence with a chainsaw and cut down our tree. The tree was fully on our property, with some of the branches above the fence line and going onto his property. > > He then left the entire tree in our backyard and left. We came home and when confronting him, said he was doing us a favor but that he would help us “clean our yard up tomorrow”. > > Do we have any rights to legal action??? His sense of entitlement is just blowing my mind right now. Please advise! Thank you!!
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wz4fw5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (NJ) Dad wants to use my birth certificate to help him get a green card but I said no and so far he has my SSN. Can he use my info without me giving consent? Basically my dad kicked me out a month ago and cut me off. After not speaking to me for a month he calls me asking for my birth certificate but I said no. Can he still use my info without my consent? | im0jor9 | im0bmyb | 1,661,615,325 | 1,661,612,028 | 1,281 | 308 | Immigration attorney here. You are likely 21 (or just turned) and he is trying to prepare an I-130 Immediate relative petition on his behalf. The problem is, the I-130 petition is supposed to be filed by YOU As the petitioner. The only way he would be able to submit this form is if he forged your signature on the I-130 petition. If you are afraid that he’s going to do this, you can always call USCIS give them his name and date of birth and explain that he may have attempted to file a fraudulent I-130 petition claiming you as the petitioner. If he did, this will amount to materially misrepresenting a material fact and will create a ground of inadmissibility for him to get his green card. | He can use your information but it would be fraud. Freeze your credit now and keep track of your credit reports. | 1 | 3,297 | 4.159091 |
wz4fw5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (NJ) Dad wants to use my birth certificate to help him get a green card but I said no and so far he has my SSN. Can he use my info without me giving consent? Basically my dad kicked me out a month ago and cut me off. After not speaking to me for a month he calls me asking for my birth certificate but I said no. Can he still use my info without my consent? | im0jor9 | im0abze | 1,661,615,325 | 1,661,611,482 | 1,281 | 40 | Immigration attorney here. You are likely 21 (or just turned) and he is trying to prepare an I-130 Immediate relative petition on his behalf. The problem is, the I-130 petition is supposed to be filed by YOU As the petitioner. The only way he would be able to submit this form is if he forged your signature on the I-130 petition. If you are afraid that he’s going to do this, you can always call USCIS give them his name and date of birth and explain that he may have attempted to file a fraudulent I-130 petition claiming you as the petitioner. If he did, this will amount to materially misrepresenting a material fact and will create a ground of inadmissibility for him to get his green card. | Any one person who is listed on the birth certificate can order one either online or at a clerks office in person, in the county in which you were born. | 1 | 3,843 | 32.025 |
wz4fw5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (NJ) Dad wants to use my birth certificate to help him get a green card but I said no and so far he has my SSN. Can he use my info without me giving consent? Basically my dad kicked me out a month ago and cut me off. After not speaking to me for a month he calls me asking for my birth certificate but I said no. Can he still use my info without my consent? | im0bmyb | im0abze | 1,661,612,028 | 1,661,611,482 | 308 | 40 | He can use your information but it would be fraud. Freeze your credit now and keep track of your credit reports. | Any one person who is listed on the birth certificate can order one either online or at a clerks office in person, in the county in which you were born. | 1 | 546 | 7.7 |
wz4fw5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (NJ) Dad wants to use my birth certificate to help him get a green card but I said no and so far he has my SSN. Can he use my info without me giving consent? Basically my dad kicked me out a month ago and cut me off. After not speaking to me for a month he calls me asking for my birth certificate but I said no. Can he still use my info without my consent? | im0m7a2 | im0abze | 1,661,616,351 | 1,661,611,482 | 108 | 40 | As your parent he can order a new birth certificate for you from the state. Don’t remind him of this. If he used your ssn to open a bank account, that is identity theft. You should a) pull your free credit report, b) make a police report about any and all fraudulent accounts you find, c) contact the banks etc to let them know about the identity theft, d) dispute the accounts on your credit report in order to restore your credit. There are detailed guides for doing this on r/personalfinance. It’s very common for parents to steal their children’s identities in this way and it can have terrible consequences for you down the line. Future You will be very grateful to Present You if you handle this now, before you find out about $80k of fraudulent debt when you first try to get a mortgage. | Any one person who is listed on the birth certificate can order one either online or at a clerks office in person, in the county in which you were born. | 1 | 4,869 | 2.7 |
x05qkc | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Signed a lease with a property management company but the owner is saying they messed up and had everything all wrong and we might have to move again I’m in Pennsylvania So I signed a lease for a 1 bedroom apartment with a property management company for a year for $800 a month, paid a pet deposit fee and a security deposit along with my first months we are in the process of moving in we already got the key signed the lease and everything. The owner of the actual house walked in, and spoke with me a bit about how he doesn’t allow pets, and I say it was allowed on my lease and I paid a pet fee deposit already plus they add money on each month per pet. Then he goes and asks how much rent we pay them and I tell him and he says oh no no that’s wrong that’s not supposed to be that they messed up big time you might have to move again. But I already signed a year lease, paid a couple of friends and people that I know to move my furniture a lot of money we are basically almost all moved in. He told me he has to call the property management company tomorrow and then call me back. What are my options here? I can’t afford another move and I’m already a few thousand dollars into this move w/ the deposits and hiring people and buying packing supplies and etc. Can they even do that? | im6avqi | im6nflm | 1,661,720,191 | 1,661,725,567 | 136 | 312 | He's wrong. | You have a lease that binds him as much as you. If he wants to break it, he'll need to pay you to get your agreement. That means complete costs to move, all deposits and a couple months rent for your trouble. | 0 | 5,376 | 2.294118 |
x05qkc | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Signed a lease with a property management company but the owner is saying they messed up and had everything all wrong and we might have to move again I’m in Pennsylvania So I signed a lease for a 1 bedroom apartment with a property management company for a year for $800 a month, paid a pet deposit fee and a security deposit along with my first months we are in the process of moving in we already got the key signed the lease and everything. The owner of the actual house walked in, and spoke with me a bit about how he doesn’t allow pets, and I say it was allowed on my lease and I paid a pet fee deposit already plus they add money on each month per pet. Then he goes and asks how much rent we pay them and I tell him and he says oh no no that’s wrong that’s not supposed to be that they messed up big time you might have to move again. But I already signed a year lease, paid a couple of friends and people that I know to move my furniture a lot of money we are basically almost all moved in. He told me he has to call the property management company tomorrow and then call me back. What are my options here? I can’t afford another move and I’m already a few thousand dollars into this move w/ the deposits and hiring people and buying packing supplies and etc. Can they even do that? | im75osb | im712sm | 1,661,734,101 | 1,661,731,908 | 110 | 93 | The property management company are his agents. He allowed them to do business on his behalf. You have a legally binding contract and he will need to take this up with the company he hired. You really aren't even obligated to speak to him. | Sounds like someone is SOL and it’s not OP. Signed, sealed and delivered. | 1 | 2,193 | 1.182796 |
x05qkc | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Signed a lease with a property management company but the owner is saying they messed up and had everything all wrong and we might have to move again I’m in Pennsylvania So I signed a lease for a 1 bedroom apartment with a property management company for a year for $800 a month, paid a pet deposit fee and a security deposit along with my first months we are in the process of moving in we already got the key signed the lease and everything. The owner of the actual house walked in, and spoke with me a bit about how he doesn’t allow pets, and I say it was allowed on my lease and I paid a pet fee deposit already plus they add money on each month per pet. Then he goes and asks how much rent we pay them and I tell him and he says oh no no that’s wrong that’s not supposed to be that they messed up big time you might have to move again. But I already signed a year lease, paid a couple of friends and people that I know to move my furniture a lot of money we are basically almost all moved in. He told me he has to call the property management company tomorrow and then call me back. What are my options here? I can’t afford another move and I’m already a few thousand dollars into this move w/ the deposits and hiring people and buying packing supplies and etc. Can they even do that? | im72b0g | im75osb | 1,661,732,498 | 1,661,734,101 | 12 | 110 | Is the lease fully signed; ie, did someone either the property management company or the owner sign the lease too? Do you have a copy of the lease signed by both sides? I could see him trying to claim that he didn’t sign and the property company wasn’t authorized to bind him. Just have your ducks in a row. | The property management company are his agents. He allowed them to do business on his behalf. You have a legally binding contract and he will need to take this up with the company he hired. You really aren't even obligated to speak to him. | 0 | 1,603 | 9.166667 |
x05qkc | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Signed a lease with a property management company but the owner is saying they messed up and had everything all wrong and we might have to move again I’m in Pennsylvania So I signed a lease for a 1 bedroom apartment with a property management company for a year for $800 a month, paid a pet deposit fee and a security deposit along with my first months we are in the process of moving in we already got the key signed the lease and everything. The owner of the actual house walked in, and spoke with me a bit about how he doesn’t allow pets, and I say it was allowed on my lease and I paid a pet fee deposit already plus they add money on each month per pet. Then he goes and asks how much rent we pay them and I tell him and he says oh no no that’s wrong that’s not supposed to be that they messed up big time you might have to move again. But I already signed a year lease, paid a couple of friends and people that I know to move my furniture a lot of money we are basically almost all moved in. He told me he has to call the property management company tomorrow and then call me back. What are my options here? I can’t afford another move and I’m already a few thousand dollars into this move w/ the deposits and hiring people and buying packing supplies and etc. Can they even do that? | im72b0g | im77rnv | 1,661,732,498 | 1,661,735,092 | 12 | 52 | Is the lease fully signed; ie, did someone either the property management company or the owner sign the lease too? Do you have a copy of the lease signed by both sides? I could see him trying to claim that he didn’t sign and the property company wasn’t authorized to bind him. Just have your ducks in a row. | The obvious question here is are you positive that this is the owner and not someone who thinks they are being funny? This just smells fishy to me. If he is local why is he using a property management company, and if he is using a property management company why is he showing up at the house unannounced at all? The only other thing I can think of is that the PM company screwed up and signed you a lease for the wrong property. If that is the case and there is an actual property that is vacant and the lease can be transferred to they should offer you that choice, otherwise the screwup is on the PM and they have to make it right with the home owner and you are under no obligation to move until the end of your lease. Make sure you are prepared to move at the end of the lease though. | 0 | 2,594 | 4.333333 |
x05qkc | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Signed a lease with a property management company but the owner is saying they messed up and had everything all wrong and we might have to move again I’m in Pennsylvania So I signed a lease for a 1 bedroom apartment with a property management company for a year for $800 a month, paid a pet deposit fee and a security deposit along with my first months we are in the process of moving in we already got the key signed the lease and everything. The owner of the actual house walked in, and spoke with me a bit about how he doesn’t allow pets, and I say it was allowed on my lease and I paid a pet fee deposit already plus they add money on each month per pet. Then he goes and asks how much rent we pay them and I tell him and he says oh no no that’s wrong that’s not supposed to be that they messed up big time you might have to move again. But I already signed a year lease, paid a couple of friends and people that I know to move my furniture a lot of money we are basically almost all moved in. He told me he has to call the property management company tomorrow and then call me back. What are my options here? I can’t afford another move and I’m already a few thousand dollars into this move w/ the deposits and hiring people and buying packing supplies and etc. Can they even do that? | im7fvej | im72b0g | 1,661,739,024 | 1,661,732,498 | 26 | 12 | On top of what everyone else is telling you, I advise you to look into PA's rules on "quiet enjoyment" as they apply to the state's landlord-tenant laws. A quick Google search tells me they're fairly standard, but as I don't live there and am largely unfamiliar, don't go solely by what i say here. But quiet enjoyment basically means that you have the right to not be constantly bothered by your landlord, the owner, their agents, etc. If the owner continues to harass you, tell him you need to hear any additional issues directly from the mgmt company and don't engage him further, and also contact the mgmt company yourself about this. Any professional mgmt company worth their salt is going to be bothered by a rogue owner getting all up in a tenant's business, and they *should* try to rein him in. Also reach out to your local tenant rights group on what steps you need to be taking next if the owner continues to harass or if the mgmt company tries to change/rescind your lease. | Is the lease fully signed; ie, did someone either the property management company or the owner sign the lease too? Do you have a copy of the lease signed by both sides? I could see him trying to claim that he didn’t sign and the property company wasn’t authorized to bind him. Just have your ducks in a row. | 1 | 6,526 | 2.166667 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmu31v | dxms4tl | 1,524,156,950 | 1,524,155,260 | 1,529 | 493 | This is where you need to push back against the camp and show that you will not be bullied. You should respond with a short email to the effect of, “If you do not immediately refund my application fees and confirm a release of me from the financial obligations of this contract, I am prepared to direct my attorneys to pursue all applicable legal remedies against the camp for fraudulent inducement of the contract and discrimination under the Americans with Disabilities Act or similar statutory protections.” Or you can hire a local attorney to send a fancier and more intimidating version of the same. Best to create this paper trail ahead of time before he starts billing you. | I don't know too much on this issue but I have two things to say. I'm pretty sure this goes against ADA. And that makes me sick that they're doing that to your son. I can't imagine someone getting my son and I hopes up like that and then trying to back out. | 1 | 1,690 | 3.10142 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmsuxh | dxmu31v | 1,524,155,889 | 1,524,156,950 | 54 | 1,529 | I am not a lawyer. First of all, I’m sorry for how difficult it is for things like this. No one understands with special needs kids parents go through. You did everything you could to work it out before giving them any money. They offered accommodations. You have it in writing (email.) My guess is that rules for summer camps are different from public schools to a degree, but that there are some ADA compliance requirements everywhere. Even if there aren’t, once they offered, they offered compliance, and it is not at all your problem that ownership or management changed hands, it’s theirs. I’d find an ADA expert attorney, and, again, I’m just guessing here, but 2300 is going to be the least of their problems. Good luck. | This is where you need to push back against the camp and show that you will not be bullied. You should respond with a short email to the effect of, “If you do not immediately refund my application fees and confirm a release of me from the financial obligations of this contract, I am prepared to direct my attorneys to pursue all applicable legal remedies against the camp for fraudulent inducement of the contract and discrimination under the Americans with Disabilities Act or similar statutory protections.” Or you can hire a local attorney to send a fancier and more intimidating version of the same. Best to create this paper trail ahead of time before he starts billing you. | 0 | 1,061 | 28.314815 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmu31v | dxmsabe | 1,524,156,950 | 1,524,155,389 | 1,529 | 24 | This is where you need to push back against the camp and show that you will not be bullied. You should respond with a short email to the effect of, “If you do not immediately refund my application fees and confirm a release of me from the financial obligations of this contract, I am prepared to direct my attorneys to pursue all applicable legal remedies against the camp for fraudulent inducement of the contract and discrimination under the Americans with Disabilities Act or similar statutory protections.” Or you can hire a local attorney to send a fancier and more intimidating version of the same. Best to create this paper trail ahead of time before he starts billing you. | Contact your credit card company | 1 | 1,561 | 63.708333 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmvtjf | dxms4tl | 1,524,158,469 | 1,524,155,260 | 639 | 493 | For contracts to be binding on both parties, there must be a "meeting of the minds" when the agreement is signed. This was the case when you expected the program to be center based, and for your son to stay home from the very infrequent filed trips. The program fundamentally altered the nature of the agreement by altering the program in such a way that your son can no longer participate. This is what we refer to as a "material breach of contract." Now, when the other party materially breaches the contract you are under no obligation to uphold your end (paying them any money). Furthermore, I strongly believe there is an ADA violation here. There is plenty of litigation to determine what reasonable accommodations are. There is nothing in your post to indicate that your son needs an RN/special aide to function. You said he has normal mobility, his cath does not need maintenance during the day, the only assistance he needs is help to eat. Unless I am completely off mark (and correct me if I am) there is no special training required to assist him with eating, unless there is a feeding tube or some other device required. So any adult with about 20 minutes of explanation and demonstration should be able to handle his needs. You have also stated you are nearby in case of emergency. Seems reasonable to me. I'll bet it would to a judge/jury to... No one wants to be on a jury telling a child they can't do something because of a disability. So, here is what I would do. I would send a demand letter to the camp company stating the following in whatever degree of politeness you deem necessary. Personally, I would go nuclear because people being shitty to kids is one of my hot buttons, but you seem much more calm about this than I would be if someone pulled this crap on my nieces or nephews. (That was a compliment, not a dig at you - I tend to be hot headed.) 1. Tell them they **materially breached** the contract when they fundamentally altered the nature of the contract. 2. You are notifying them of the **breach**, and because it was **material** you are also notifying them that you accept that they have no intention or desire to **cure** the breach. 3. Because of the **material breach** and lack of **cure** you are under no obligation to pay them and you intend to **rescind** the the contract. (Rescission terminates both parties responsibilities under the contract.) 4. You are **demanding** the immediate return of your $300 that you have already paid. 5. If they refuse to refund your money or agree to rescission as a settlement of your claim, you are fully prepared to sue them and ask a court to set aside the contract, and you would also be happy to litigate the reasonableness of the accommodations you requested under the ADA. 6. You are fully prepared to exercise any and all available legal remedies for their breach of contract and failure to reasonably accommodate your disabled child. 7. They MUST consider this letter **anticipation of litigation** and you are demanding immediate preservation of all electronic and physical records of the camp curricula before and after the change in management, as well as any and all documentation regarding the change in management/ownership and the change in the nature of the camp because all of those materials are reasonably believed to be discoverable in the event of protracted litigation. Now, unless they are completely stupid, someone there will realize that the costs of litigation and discovery will far eclipse the about $6k they are trying to force you to pay. ADA cases are costly, and you can usually find foundations/local groups that will provide you with free/low cost legal services for ADA claims, while the camp is going to have to hire lawyers at full price to defend any suit brought. I would also contact your credit card company and explain to the fraud department that this company may try to charge your card, under a contract that is the subject of a legal dispute, and see if they will block those charges and/or move the existing charges to escrow so you are not paying interest while the case progresses. Good Luck, I am happy to answer any other questions you have. | I don't know too much on this issue but I have two things to say. I'm pretty sure this goes against ADA. And that makes me sick that they're doing that to your son. I can't imagine someone getting my son and I hopes up like that and then trying to back out. | 1 | 3,209 | 1.296146 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmsuxh | dxmvtjf | 1,524,155,889 | 1,524,158,469 | 54 | 639 | I am not a lawyer. First of all, I’m sorry for how difficult it is for things like this. No one understands with special needs kids parents go through. You did everything you could to work it out before giving them any money. They offered accommodations. You have it in writing (email.) My guess is that rules for summer camps are different from public schools to a degree, but that there are some ADA compliance requirements everywhere. Even if there aren’t, once they offered, they offered compliance, and it is not at all your problem that ownership or management changed hands, it’s theirs. I’d find an ADA expert attorney, and, again, I’m just guessing here, but 2300 is going to be the least of their problems. Good luck. | For contracts to be binding on both parties, there must be a "meeting of the minds" when the agreement is signed. This was the case when you expected the program to be center based, and for your son to stay home from the very infrequent filed trips. The program fundamentally altered the nature of the agreement by altering the program in such a way that your son can no longer participate. This is what we refer to as a "material breach of contract." Now, when the other party materially breaches the contract you are under no obligation to uphold your end (paying them any money). Furthermore, I strongly believe there is an ADA violation here. There is plenty of litigation to determine what reasonable accommodations are. There is nothing in your post to indicate that your son needs an RN/special aide to function. You said he has normal mobility, his cath does not need maintenance during the day, the only assistance he needs is help to eat. Unless I am completely off mark (and correct me if I am) there is no special training required to assist him with eating, unless there is a feeding tube or some other device required. So any adult with about 20 minutes of explanation and demonstration should be able to handle his needs. You have also stated you are nearby in case of emergency. Seems reasonable to me. I'll bet it would to a judge/jury to... No one wants to be on a jury telling a child they can't do something because of a disability. So, here is what I would do. I would send a demand letter to the camp company stating the following in whatever degree of politeness you deem necessary. Personally, I would go nuclear because people being shitty to kids is one of my hot buttons, but you seem much more calm about this than I would be if someone pulled this crap on my nieces or nephews. (That was a compliment, not a dig at you - I tend to be hot headed.) 1. Tell them they **materially breached** the contract when they fundamentally altered the nature of the contract. 2. You are notifying them of the **breach**, and because it was **material** you are also notifying them that you accept that they have no intention or desire to **cure** the breach. 3. Because of the **material breach** and lack of **cure** you are under no obligation to pay them and you intend to **rescind** the the contract. (Rescission terminates both parties responsibilities under the contract.) 4. You are **demanding** the immediate return of your $300 that you have already paid. 5. If they refuse to refund your money or agree to rescission as a settlement of your claim, you are fully prepared to sue them and ask a court to set aside the contract, and you would also be happy to litigate the reasonableness of the accommodations you requested under the ADA. 6. You are fully prepared to exercise any and all available legal remedies for their breach of contract and failure to reasonably accommodate your disabled child. 7. They MUST consider this letter **anticipation of litigation** and you are demanding immediate preservation of all electronic and physical records of the camp curricula before and after the change in management, as well as any and all documentation regarding the change in management/ownership and the change in the nature of the camp because all of those materials are reasonably believed to be discoverable in the event of protracted litigation. Now, unless they are completely stupid, someone there will realize that the costs of litigation and discovery will far eclipse the about $6k they are trying to force you to pay. ADA cases are costly, and you can usually find foundations/local groups that will provide you with free/low cost legal services for ADA claims, while the camp is going to have to hire lawyers at full price to defend any suit brought. I would also contact your credit card company and explain to the fraud department that this company may try to charge your card, under a contract that is the subject of a legal dispute, and see if they will block those charges and/or move the existing charges to escrow so you are not paying interest while the case progresses. Good Luck, I am happy to answer any other questions you have. | 0 | 2,580 | 11.833333 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmsabe | dxmvtjf | 1,524,155,389 | 1,524,158,469 | 24 | 639 | Contact your credit card company | For contracts to be binding on both parties, there must be a "meeting of the minds" when the agreement is signed. This was the case when you expected the program to be center based, and for your son to stay home from the very infrequent filed trips. The program fundamentally altered the nature of the agreement by altering the program in such a way that your son can no longer participate. This is what we refer to as a "material breach of contract." Now, when the other party materially breaches the contract you are under no obligation to uphold your end (paying them any money). Furthermore, I strongly believe there is an ADA violation here. There is plenty of litigation to determine what reasonable accommodations are. There is nothing in your post to indicate that your son needs an RN/special aide to function. You said he has normal mobility, his cath does not need maintenance during the day, the only assistance he needs is help to eat. Unless I am completely off mark (and correct me if I am) there is no special training required to assist him with eating, unless there is a feeding tube or some other device required. So any adult with about 20 minutes of explanation and demonstration should be able to handle his needs. You have also stated you are nearby in case of emergency. Seems reasonable to me. I'll bet it would to a judge/jury to... No one wants to be on a jury telling a child they can't do something because of a disability. So, here is what I would do. I would send a demand letter to the camp company stating the following in whatever degree of politeness you deem necessary. Personally, I would go nuclear because people being shitty to kids is one of my hot buttons, but you seem much more calm about this than I would be if someone pulled this crap on my nieces or nephews. (That was a compliment, not a dig at you - I tend to be hot headed.) 1. Tell them they **materially breached** the contract when they fundamentally altered the nature of the contract. 2. You are notifying them of the **breach**, and because it was **material** you are also notifying them that you accept that they have no intention or desire to **cure** the breach. 3. Because of the **material breach** and lack of **cure** you are under no obligation to pay them and you intend to **rescind** the the contract. (Rescission terminates both parties responsibilities under the contract.) 4. You are **demanding** the immediate return of your $300 that you have already paid. 5. If they refuse to refund your money or agree to rescission as a settlement of your claim, you are fully prepared to sue them and ask a court to set aside the contract, and you would also be happy to litigate the reasonableness of the accommodations you requested under the ADA. 6. You are fully prepared to exercise any and all available legal remedies for their breach of contract and failure to reasonably accommodate your disabled child. 7. They MUST consider this letter **anticipation of litigation** and you are demanding immediate preservation of all electronic and physical records of the camp curricula before and after the change in management, as well as any and all documentation regarding the change in management/ownership and the change in the nature of the camp because all of those materials are reasonably believed to be discoverable in the event of protracted litigation. Now, unless they are completely stupid, someone there will realize that the costs of litigation and discovery will far eclipse the about $6k they are trying to force you to pay. ADA cases are costly, and you can usually find foundations/local groups that will provide you with free/low cost legal services for ADA claims, while the camp is going to have to hire lawyers at full price to defend any suit brought. I would also contact your credit card company and explain to the fraud department that this company may try to charge your card, under a contract that is the subject of a legal dispute, and see if they will block those charges and/or move the existing charges to escrow so you are not paying interest while the case progresses. Good Luck, I am happy to answer any other questions you have. | 0 | 3,080 | 26.625 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxms4tl | dxn6oee | 1,524,155,260 | 1,524,167,940 | 493 | 532 | I don't know too much on this issue but I have two things to say. I'm pretty sure this goes against ADA. And that makes me sick that they're doing that to your son. I can't imagine someone getting my son and I hopes up like that and then trying to back out. | I am a lawyer, I am not your lawyer, this is not legal advice. This is kind of an interesting situation based on some of the facts you've presented, and in all honesty, I think you should explore with a lawyer whether your son should in fact be accommodated in the program under the ADA and similar state laws, particularly in light of this binding contract. Sure, the program can make an argument as to why they should not have to accommodate or modify anything, but this is especially interesting because they already made representations to you that this was not a big deal. That, in particular, is very interesting from the standpoint of a lawyer who does ADA cases. Specifically, **I would recommend you contact Disability Rights Arkansas *today* about this** - they may be able to better advise you on the specifics and evaluate the program. From what you've said, it is evident there are more pertinent details to this - make sure you provide the full picture (for example, if this center gets any government funding, that would make it even more compelling). The cool thing about Disability Rights Arkansas is that they are the federally funded protection and advocacy agency for people with disabilities in Arkansas, so they do not charge their clients for services and there are no income or other requirements. https://disabilityrightsar.org/ is their website, 800.482.1174 is their toll free phone number. Best of luck, whether you wish to get a refund or get accommodations for your son to participate in the program! | 0 | 12,680 | 1.079108 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxn6oee | dxmsuxh | 1,524,167,940 | 1,524,155,889 | 532 | 54 | I am a lawyer, I am not your lawyer, this is not legal advice. This is kind of an interesting situation based on some of the facts you've presented, and in all honesty, I think you should explore with a lawyer whether your son should in fact be accommodated in the program under the ADA and similar state laws, particularly in light of this binding contract. Sure, the program can make an argument as to why they should not have to accommodate or modify anything, but this is especially interesting because they already made representations to you that this was not a big deal. That, in particular, is very interesting from the standpoint of a lawyer who does ADA cases. Specifically, **I would recommend you contact Disability Rights Arkansas *today* about this** - they may be able to better advise you on the specifics and evaluate the program. From what you've said, it is evident there are more pertinent details to this - make sure you provide the full picture (for example, if this center gets any government funding, that would make it even more compelling). The cool thing about Disability Rights Arkansas is that they are the federally funded protection and advocacy agency for people with disabilities in Arkansas, so they do not charge their clients for services and there are no income or other requirements. https://disabilityrightsar.org/ is their website, 800.482.1174 is their toll free phone number. Best of luck, whether you wish to get a refund or get accommodations for your son to participate in the program! | I am not a lawyer. First of all, I’m sorry for how difficult it is for things like this. No one understands with special needs kids parents go through. You did everything you could to work it out before giving them any money. They offered accommodations. You have it in writing (email.) My guess is that rules for summer camps are different from public schools to a degree, but that there are some ADA compliance requirements everywhere. Even if there aren’t, once they offered, they offered compliance, and it is not at all your problem that ownership or management changed hands, it’s theirs. I’d find an ADA expert attorney, and, again, I’m just guessing here, but 2300 is going to be the least of their problems. Good luck. | 1 | 12,051 | 9.851852 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmwnp9 | dxn6oee | 1,524,159,198 | 1,524,167,940 | 31 | 532 | I have no doubt a lawyer could resolve this for you in your favor, but I would definitely charge back anything they try to put on the card. | I am a lawyer, I am not your lawyer, this is not legal advice. This is kind of an interesting situation based on some of the facts you've presented, and in all honesty, I think you should explore with a lawyer whether your son should in fact be accommodated in the program under the ADA and similar state laws, particularly in light of this binding contract. Sure, the program can make an argument as to why they should not have to accommodate or modify anything, but this is especially interesting because they already made representations to you that this was not a big deal. That, in particular, is very interesting from the standpoint of a lawyer who does ADA cases. Specifically, **I would recommend you contact Disability Rights Arkansas *today* about this** - they may be able to better advise you on the specifics and evaluate the program. From what you've said, it is evident there are more pertinent details to this - make sure you provide the full picture (for example, if this center gets any government funding, that would make it even more compelling). The cool thing about Disability Rights Arkansas is that they are the federally funded protection and advocacy agency for people with disabilities in Arkansas, so they do not charge their clients for services and there are no income or other requirements. https://disabilityrightsar.org/ is their website, 800.482.1174 is their toll free phone number. Best of luck, whether you wish to get a refund or get accommodations for your son to participate in the program! | 0 | 8,742 | 17.16129 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxn6oee | dxmsabe | 1,524,167,940 | 1,524,155,389 | 532 | 24 | I am a lawyer, I am not your lawyer, this is not legal advice. This is kind of an interesting situation based on some of the facts you've presented, and in all honesty, I think you should explore with a lawyer whether your son should in fact be accommodated in the program under the ADA and similar state laws, particularly in light of this binding contract. Sure, the program can make an argument as to why they should not have to accommodate or modify anything, but this is especially interesting because they already made representations to you that this was not a big deal. That, in particular, is very interesting from the standpoint of a lawyer who does ADA cases. Specifically, **I would recommend you contact Disability Rights Arkansas *today* about this** - they may be able to better advise you on the specifics and evaluate the program. From what you've said, it is evident there are more pertinent details to this - make sure you provide the full picture (for example, if this center gets any government funding, that would make it even more compelling). The cool thing about Disability Rights Arkansas is that they are the federally funded protection and advocacy agency for people with disabilities in Arkansas, so they do not charge their clients for services and there are no income or other requirements. https://disabilityrightsar.org/ is their website, 800.482.1174 is their toll free phone number. Best of luck, whether you wish to get a refund or get accommodations for your son to participate in the program! | Contact your credit card company | 1 | 12,551 | 22.166667 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmsuxh | dxnc1bj | 1,524,155,889 | 1,524,172,798 | 54 | 89 | I am not a lawyer. First of all, I’m sorry for how difficult it is for things like this. No one understands with special needs kids parents go through. You did everything you could to work it out before giving them any money. They offered accommodations. You have it in writing (email.) My guess is that rules for summer camps are different from public schools to a degree, but that there are some ADA compliance requirements everywhere. Even if there aren’t, once they offered, they offered compliance, and it is not at all your problem that ownership or management changed hands, it’s theirs. I’d find an ADA expert attorney, and, again, I’m just guessing here, but 2300 is going to be the least of their problems. Good luck. | It reads a little bit like you feel bad for them about having to potentially accommodate for your son. Don’t. They are a business. Their goal is to make money. They don’t deserve sympathy as they have not been wronged. You and your son are the innocent parties here. You entered into a contract that was fundamentally changed. You would not have entered into that contract had it been presented then as they are advertising now. This business (which exists to make money) CHANGED the program you agreed to, you researched, and you planned to pay for to give your son an experience he deserves. You did everything to ensure that it would be the correct fit for you and him. You asked the right questions, clarified things, and planned for reasonable accommodations. After you signed and agreed to pay, the center stole that from you. They took the agreement and lit it on fire essentially. Your son is the wronged one here. Not the camp. Don’t feel bad for them at all. They agreed to take on the accommodations and changes necessary to fit your son in a program. This is admirable. They then ripped that away from him. That is disgusting. I encourage you to pursue every legal aspect you can so they do not get away with punishing another child for a difference is abilities. | 0 | 16,909 | 1.648148 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmwnp9 | dxnc1bj | 1,524,159,198 | 1,524,172,798 | 31 | 89 | I have no doubt a lawyer could resolve this for you in your favor, but I would definitely charge back anything they try to put on the card. | It reads a little bit like you feel bad for them about having to potentially accommodate for your son. Don’t. They are a business. Their goal is to make money. They don’t deserve sympathy as they have not been wronged. You and your son are the innocent parties here. You entered into a contract that was fundamentally changed. You would not have entered into that contract had it been presented then as they are advertising now. This business (which exists to make money) CHANGED the program you agreed to, you researched, and you planned to pay for to give your son an experience he deserves. You did everything to ensure that it would be the correct fit for you and him. You asked the right questions, clarified things, and planned for reasonable accommodations. After you signed and agreed to pay, the center stole that from you. They took the agreement and lit it on fire essentially. Your son is the wronged one here. Not the camp. Don’t feel bad for them at all. They agreed to take on the accommodations and changes necessary to fit your son in a program. This is admirable. They then ripped that away from him. That is disgusting. I encourage you to pursue every legal aspect you can so they do not get away with punishing another child for a difference is abilities. | 0 | 13,600 | 2.870968 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxnc1bj | dxmsabe | 1,524,172,798 | 1,524,155,389 | 89 | 24 | It reads a little bit like you feel bad for them about having to potentially accommodate for your son. Don’t. They are a business. Their goal is to make money. They don’t deserve sympathy as they have not been wronged. You and your son are the innocent parties here. You entered into a contract that was fundamentally changed. You would not have entered into that contract had it been presented then as they are advertising now. This business (which exists to make money) CHANGED the program you agreed to, you researched, and you planned to pay for to give your son an experience he deserves. You did everything to ensure that it would be the correct fit for you and him. You asked the right questions, clarified things, and planned for reasonable accommodations. After you signed and agreed to pay, the center stole that from you. They took the agreement and lit it on fire essentially. Your son is the wronged one here. Not the camp. Don’t feel bad for them at all. They agreed to take on the accommodations and changes necessary to fit your son in a program. This is admirable. They then ripped that away from him. That is disgusting. I encourage you to pursue every legal aspect you can so they do not get away with punishing another child for a difference is abilities. | Contact your credit card company | 1 | 17,409 | 3.708333 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmsabe | dxmsuxh | 1,524,155,389 | 1,524,155,889 | 24 | 54 | Contact your credit card company | I am not a lawyer. First of all, I’m sorry for how difficult it is for things like this. No one understands with special needs kids parents go through. You did everything you could to work it out before giving them any money. They offered accommodations. You have it in writing (email.) My guess is that rules for summer camps are different from public schools to a degree, but that there are some ADA compliance requirements everywhere. Even if there aren’t, once they offered, they offered compliance, and it is not at all your problem that ownership or management changed hands, it’s theirs. I’d find an ADA expert attorney, and, again, I’m just guessing here, but 2300 is going to be the least of their problems. Good luck. | 0 | 500 | 2.25 |
8dfsu2 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | New management at summer camp won't let my child attend but says they still intend to charge me for the entire summer. Arkansas I enrolled my child in a summer camp. I researched it well and looked over all their paperwork (2 pages, not very long) and even asked the front desk person and director taking my application and fees, if it was ok that my child with a disability to attend. It is a physical disability but most of their time will be spent in a place that the physical disability won't be an issue but I did explain that they would have to feed him. They were ok with that. I actually work within walking distance so I offered to come over on my lunch break and feed him every day he attends. They were fine with that idea. There are some days where they go on field trips so I told the director and the front desk person that I would just keep him home on those days. They were originally fine with this. He has a cath bag but it doesn't need to changed at all during the day so it wouldn't be an issue. If it were, he would be about a two minute walk from me. I really wanted my child to experience this camp and integrate him into an experience with typical kids. I understand there are limitations though so I offered the accommodations of just not having him attend the field trips and for me to come over at lunch and help with the feeding. They seemed on board. My son has mobility and can do all the center based tasks the other kids are doing and doesn't need help or special attention when playing. He is intellectually and emotionally typical for his age group. No behavioral problems. His doctor and physical therapist said he is fine attending a typical summer program with some accommodations. No medication needed during his day. Long walks and some outdoor stuff is limiting hence the not attending the 6 field trips they told me they do during the summer program. If they weren't ok with it, I was fully prepared to just walk away and find another summer camp. We are use to this. If they can't handle his needs, fine. Just let me know. I filled out the application and read over the paperwork. Paid the fees ($300) and put my credit card on file for the monthly charges throughout the summer. Once you sign the application, they have a clause that says you can't be denied entry into the program, your spot will be held and that you can't leave the program without being charged the full amount for the summer. I have a copy of that statement/waiver from the program. We did this back in March because the program tends to fill up fast. Around April 5th I got notice that they changed management and that the management was going in a different direction with the program and that the program would be less center based and more field trip based. I contacted the new director who said that they staff they had couldn't cover my child's needs. Fine. This happens all the time. After further discussion, the director let me know that the wouldn't be returning my money. That I would need to go on ALL the field trips (4 a week for 7 weeks from 9am to 3pm) and be there at all times for my child as he attended the program. Now I can't do that. I have a job. I cannot take 4 days off a week for 7 weeks. A long lunch, sure. "With the changes from a center based summer program to a more field trip heavy summer program, we don't have the staff, training or ability to meet your child's need during the program." and " The contract your signed specifies that you are responsible for the monthly payments throughout the summer for the full $2300, plus any associate fees". and "Regardless of your son's ability to attend, you are responsible for the full amount. We won't be refunding or returning any fees or costs." These are the important sentences in their email to me. So they want me to provide the full cost of the care during my child's summer program with them, do absolutely nothing with or for him, and charge me the full amount. The director went as far to say that he couldn't be in the center without me there because her workers weren't special needs workers. Fine. She is right, they aren't but I checked I cleared this with the original management. I talked to the previous director many times before signing anything or paying anything. I tried to make sure that this program was able to meet his needs. I have the emails from both the former management (outlining the accommodations they would make for him and that they were ok with him needing those and attending) and the new management (saying they couldn't honors those but would be keeping my money anyway). Am I going to have to eat my $2300 plus $300 and associated fees here? First charge goes on the card starting in May. The program is in high demand so they won't have an issue filling his spot. | dxmwnp9 | dxmsabe | 1,524,159,198 | 1,524,155,389 | 31 | 24 | I have no doubt a lawyer could resolve this for you in your favor, but I would definitely charge back anything they try to put on the card. | Contact your credit card company | 1 | 3,809 | 1.291667 |
lxaw8v | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Ontario - Landlord showed us a rental house, we signed lease for the house. On move-in day we arrive to find the main floor divided in half, the other half is now for lease as a commercial property. Landlords response is “sorry, we forgot to mention the commercial unit” As the title says, we signed a lease for a house after viewing the entire house with the landlord. The lease has a single address, no unit number, and makes no mention of another unit. When we arrived in the first of the month with our keys, a door with a deadbolt has been installed dividing the main floor in two, and a commercial lease sign has been out in the window. The landlord has apologized for their mistake, and offered a 50% discount on one months rent. They have cut off 1000sq ft of the house they showed us, and have been dismissive of our problem, saying they are sorry for the mistake, but it is what it is. I know the next step is a lawyer, but time and money are short, what can I realistically expect as an outcome? Is it worth the hassle and expense of pursuing? | gpmdx9f | gplzul0 | 1,614,834,131 | 1,614,826,283 | 596 | 13 | Not a lawyer Did you move in? Is there any chance you have copies of the original ad for the place or any photos? Save those now. Even any correspondence with friends or anyone that you had about the place describing it etc. If the landlord put anything in writing about their "mistake" keep that as well. They will likely suggest that you already knew that it wasn't part of the rented apartment. and you will need to demonstrate otherwise. 1000sq ft is worth pursuing, not only for the space but also because sharing a house opens up all manner of additional questions about noise, foot traffic, garbage disposal, privacy, the use of common elements etc. You can contact your local community legal clinic. They are well-versed in landlord-tenant issues. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. | 1 | 7,848 | 45.846154 |
lxaw8v | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Ontario - Landlord showed us a rental house, we signed lease for the house. On move-in day we arrive to find the main floor divided in half, the other half is now for lease as a commercial property. Landlords response is “sorry, we forgot to mention the commercial unit” As the title says, we signed a lease for a house after viewing the entire house with the landlord. The lease has a single address, no unit number, and makes no mention of another unit. When we arrived in the first of the month with our keys, a door with a deadbolt has been installed dividing the main floor in two, and a commercial lease sign has been out in the window. The landlord has apologized for their mistake, and offered a 50% discount on one months rent. They have cut off 1000sq ft of the house they showed us, and have been dismissive of our problem, saying they are sorry for the mistake, but it is what it is. I know the next step is a lawyer, but time and money are short, what can I realistically expect as an outcome? Is it worth the hassle and expense of pursuing? | gpmnwn7 | gpme4ri | 1,614,841,483 | 1,614,834,267 | 446 | 274 | Sounds like a bait and switch scenario to me. You signed a lease for exclusive use of the property, not to split it 50/50 with another rental. | Where to get help Contact the Landlord and Tenant Board, Monday to Friday from 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., by mail, fax, in-person or by telephone (toll free at 1-888-332-3234), to learn more about your rights and responsibilities. They would be able to answer your questions. They take their jobs pretty seriously. | 1 | 7,216 | 1.627737 |
lxaw8v | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Ontario - Landlord showed us a rental house, we signed lease for the house. On move-in day we arrive to find the main floor divided in half, the other half is now for lease as a commercial property. Landlords response is “sorry, we forgot to mention the commercial unit” As the title says, we signed a lease for a house after viewing the entire house with the landlord. The lease has a single address, no unit number, and makes no mention of another unit. When we arrived in the first of the month with our keys, a door with a deadbolt has been installed dividing the main floor in two, and a commercial lease sign has been out in the window. The landlord has apologized for their mistake, and offered a 50% discount on one months rent. They have cut off 1000sq ft of the house they showed us, and have been dismissive of our problem, saying they are sorry for the mistake, but it is what it is. I know the next step is a lawyer, but time and money are short, what can I realistically expect as an outcome? Is it worth the hassle and expense of pursuing? | gplzul0 | gpmnwn7 | 1,614,826,283 | 1,614,841,483 | 13 | 446 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. | Sounds like a bait and switch scenario to me. You signed a lease for exclusive use of the property, not to split it 50/50 with another rental. | 0 | 15,200 | 34.307692 |
lxaw8v | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Ontario - Landlord showed us a rental house, we signed lease for the house. On move-in day we arrive to find the main floor divided in half, the other half is now for lease as a commercial property. Landlords response is “sorry, we forgot to mention the commercial unit” As the title says, we signed a lease for a house after viewing the entire house with the landlord. The lease has a single address, no unit number, and makes no mention of another unit. When we arrived in the first of the month with our keys, a door with a deadbolt has been installed dividing the main floor in two, and a commercial lease sign has been out in the window. The landlord has apologized for their mistake, and offered a 50% discount on one months rent. They have cut off 1000sq ft of the house they showed us, and have been dismissive of our problem, saying they are sorry for the mistake, but it is what it is. I know the next step is a lawyer, but time and money are short, what can I realistically expect as an outcome? Is it worth the hassle and expense of pursuing? | gplzul0 | gpme4ri | 1,614,826,283 | 1,614,834,267 | 13 | 274 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. | Where to get help Contact the Landlord and Tenant Board, Monday to Friday from 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., by mail, fax, in-person or by telephone (toll free at 1-888-332-3234), to learn more about your rights and responsibilities. They would be able to answer your questions. They take their jobs pretty seriously. | 0 | 7,984 | 21.076923 |
lxaw8v | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Ontario - Landlord showed us a rental house, we signed lease for the house. On move-in day we arrive to find the main floor divided in half, the other half is now for lease as a commercial property. Landlords response is “sorry, we forgot to mention the commercial unit” As the title says, we signed a lease for a house after viewing the entire house with the landlord. The lease has a single address, no unit number, and makes no mention of another unit. When we arrived in the first of the month with our keys, a door with a deadbolt has been installed dividing the main floor in two, and a commercial lease sign has been out in the window. The landlord has apologized for their mistake, and offered a 50% discount on one months rent. They have cut off 1000sq ft of the house they showed us, and have been dismissive of our problem, saying they are sorry for the mistake, but it is what it is. I know the next step is a lawyer, but time and money are short, what can I realistically expect as an outcome? Is it worth the hassle and expense of pursuing? | gplzul0 | gpn9dii | 1,614,826,283 | 1,614,860,813 | 13 | 98 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. | Hi OP! Not a lawyer, but someone who's been around law offices for a while in Ontario. It definitely sounds like you might be pushing into lawyer territory here, and while you might be able to go through the LTB on your own (which is a great thing to have), you may also benefit from having some help with it. The Law Society of Ontario (LSO) has a referral service available on their website for both lawyers AND paralegals. https://lso.ca/public-resources/finding-a-lawyer-or-paralegal/law-society-referral-service Hope this helps, and best of luck! | 0 | 34,530 | 7.538462 |
lxaw8v | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Ontario - Landlord showed us a rental house, we signed lease for the house. On move-in day we arrive to find the main floor divided in half, the other half is now for lease as a commercial property. Landlords response is “sorry, we forgot to mention the commercial unit” As the title says, we signed a lease for a house after viewing the entire house with the landlord. The lease has a single address, no unit number, and makes no mention of another unit. When we arrived in the first of the month with our keys, a door with a deadbolt has been installed dividing the main floor in two, and a commercial lease sign has been out in the window. The landlord has apologized for their mistake, and offered a 50% discount on one months rent. They have cut off 1000sq ft of the house they showed us, and have been dismissive of our problem, saying they are sorry for the mistake, but it is what it is. I know the next step is a lawyer, but time and money are short, what can I realistically expect as an outcome? Is it worth the hassle and expense of pursuing? | gpni3yk | gpnc4lo | 1,614,866,132 | 1,614,862,687 | 62 | 35 | Not a lawyer, but I feel like the lease is key here. What sq footage is listed? If what’s listed includes the “commercial unit” then I’d imagine you’re entitled to a discount on more than the 1st months rent. Lawyer time though. No question. | Check with your local.zoning commission if the property is mixed use or zoned as strictly residential. If landlord is trying to rent out part of property as commercial in a residential zone, he could be in trouble. | 1 | 3,445 | 1.771429 |
lxaw8v | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Ontario - Landlord showed us a rental house, we signed lease for the house. On move-in day we arrive to find the main floor divided in half, the other half is now for lease as a commercial property. Landlords response is “sorry, we forgot to mention the commercial unit” As the title says, we signed a lease for a house after viewing the entire house with the landlord. The lease has a single address, no unit number, and makes no mention of another unit. When we arrived in the first of the month with our keys, a door with a deadbolt has been installed dividing the main floor in two, and a commercial lease sign has been out in the window. The landlord has apologized for their mistake, and offered a 50% discount on one months rent. They have cut off 1000sq ft of the house they showed us, and have been dismissive of our problem, saying they are sorry for the mistake, but it is what it is. I know the next step is a lawyer, but time and money are short, what can I realistically expect as an outcome? Is it worth the hassle and expense of pursuing? | gpni3yk | gplzul0 | 1,614,866,132 | 1,614,826,283 | 62 | 13 | Not a lawyer, but I feel like the lease is key here. What sq footage is listed? If what’s listed includes the “commercial unit” then I’d imagine you’re entitled to a discount on more than the 1st months rent. Lawyer time though. No question. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. | 1 | 39,849 | 4.769231 |
lxaw8v | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Ontario - Landlord showed us a rental house, we signed lease for the house. On move-in day we arrive to find the main floor divided in half, the other half is now for lease as a commercial property. Landlords response is “sorry, we forgot to mention the commercial unit” As the title says, we signed a lease for a house after viewing the entire house with the landlord. The lease has a single address, no unit number, and makes no mention of another unit. When we arrived in the first of the month with our keys, a door with a deadbolt has been installed dividing the main floor in two, and a commercial lease sign has been out in the window. The landlord has apologized for their mistake, and offered a 50% discount on one months rent. They have cut off 1000sq ft of the house they showed us, and have been dismissive of our problem, saying they are sorry for the mistake, but it is what it is. I know the next step is a lawyer, but time and money are short, what can I realistically expect as an outcome? Is it worth the hassle and expense of pursuing? | gplzul0 | gpnc4lo | 1,614,826,283 | 1,614,862,687 | 13 | 35 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. | Check with your local.zoning commission if the property is mixed use or zoned as strictly residential. If landlord is trying to rent out part of property as commercial in a residential zone, he could be in trouble. | 0 | 36,404 | 2.692308 |
y6giyk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | My insurance company misinformed me. I have a transcript of the conversation sent by them proving it, but they still won’t help make it right. Needing help/advice with negotiating medical bills TL;DR at the bottom So, I was bit by a stray cat, and my MD recommended I get the rabies pep course. I'm a single dude, living on my own, and I chatted with my insurance to see if they would cover it. The rep said they would "cover it 100%." Turns out, that was a bald face lie. I have a transcript of the conversation emailed to me FROM Humana, but now I have to front over $3,000 out of pocket. I tried to explain that to Humana, but they said they weren't able to do anything and to talk to the provider (UofL Health - STS Mary and Elizabeth Hospital). So, I talked to the UofL Health's billing department, and they did a check on all the codes just to make sure things were cool. I guess they were, because I just got the bill in the mail for 3.2k. I checked their medical debt forgiveness policy, and I make just barely above the 300% poverty line where they forgive your bills completely. I don't have 3.2k to my name though. I have never had a bill this large before, and I have no clue what to do. I'm kinda freaking out. I’m 27, and just trying to survive. This whole thing has be back on my anxiety medication and everything. TL;DR My insurance didn't cover something they said they would, and now I need advice on how to get my $3.2k bill reduced to avoid going completely bankrupt. | ispbw7c | isp149i | 1,666,030,926 | 1,666,026,621 | 31 | 4 | Not a lawyer, Make sure it was coded as a "POST EXPOSURE" not pre-exposure. Rabies shots should be covered 100% as preventative care if your doctor recommended it after the bite. | You likely have no recourse. What a customer service rep says over the phone will never trump your actual insurance policy. It sounds like this WAS covered by your insurance however you hadn’t met your deductible so again, no recourse. | 1 | 4,305 | 7.75 |
y6giyk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | My insurance company misinformed me. I have a transcript of the conversation sent by them proving it, but they still won’t help make it right. Needing help/advice with negotiating medical bills TL;DR at the bottom So, I was bit by a stray cat, and my MD recommended I get the rabies pep course. I'm a single dude, living on my own, and I chatted with my insurance to see if they would cover it. The rep said they would "cover it 100%." Turns out, that was a bald face lie. I have a transcript of the conversation emailed to me FROM Humana, but now I have to front over $3,000 out of pocket. I tried to explain that to Humana, but they said they weren't able to do anything and to talk to the provider (UofL Health - STS Mary and Elizabeth Hospital). So, I talked to the UofL Health's billing department, and they did a check on all the codes just to make sure things were cool. I guess they were, because I just got the bill in the mail for 3.2k. I checked their medical debt forgiveness policy, and I make just barely above the 300% poverty line where they forgive your bills completely. I don't have 3.2k to my name though. I have never had a bill this large before, and I have no clue what to do. I'm kinda freaking out. I’m 27, and just trying to survive. This whole thing has be back on my anxiety medication and everything. TL;DR My insurance didn't cover something they said they would, and now I need advice on how to get my $3.2k bill reduced to avoid going completely bankrupt. | ispcbis | ispddfo | 1,666,031,093 | 1,666,031,508 | 6 | 17 | They do cover it, but I'm guessing that you have a deductible, Coinsurance, or copay that needs to be met before they make any payment. What is the $3,200 labeled as? | 1. Have you reached your deductible? A lot of health insurance plans can have annual deductibles far higher than $3000. 2. Hospitals can be flexible with payment. Call the billing department back and tell them your insurance won't be covering the procedure, and so you'll need an itemized bill and you want to arrange a payment plan. Go into the meeting with the payment coordinator with an idea of how much you can afford to pay per month. 3. It is possible the $3000 bill was printed and mailed to you despite being under review. Hospitals don't always stop mailings even while something is being double checked, so on the call with the billing department you should ask about the status of the review you requested. 4. Some drug manufacturers have assistance programs if you were treated with their product. Get started here: https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/medical_care/programs.html | 0 | 415 | 2.833333 |
y6giyk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | My insurance company misinformed me. I have a transcript of the conversation sent by them proving it, but they still won’t help make it right. Needing help/advice with negotiating medical bills TL;DR at the bottom So, I was bit by a stray cat, and my MD recommended I get the rabies pep course. I'm a single dude, living on my own, and I chatted with my insurance to see if they would cover it. The rep said they would "cover it 100%." Turns out, that was a bald face lie. I have a transcript of the conversation emailed to me FROM Humana, but now I have to front over $3,000 out of pocket. I tried to explain that to Humana, but they said they weren't able to do anything and to talk to the provider (UofL Health - STS Mary and Elizabeth Hospital). So, I talked to the UofL Health's billing department, and they did a check on all the codes just to make sure things were cool. I guess they were, because I just got the bill in the mail for 3.2k. I checked their medical debt forgiveness policy, and I make just barely above the 300% poverty line where they forgive your bills completely. I don't have 3.2k to my name though. I have never had a bill this large before, and I have no clue what to do. I'm kinda freaking out. I’m 27, and just trying to survive. This whole thing has be back on my anxiety medication and everything. TL;DR My insurance didn't cover something they said they would, and now I need advice on how to get my $3.2k bill reduced to avoid going completely bankrupt. | isp149i | ispddfo | 1,666,026,621 | 1,666,031,508 | 4 | 17 | You likely have no recourse. What a customer service rep says over the phone will never trump your actual insurance policy. It sounds like this WAS covered by your insurance however you hadn’t met your deductible so again, no recourse. | 1. Have you reached your deductible? A lot of health insurance plans can have annual deductibles far higher than $3000. 2. Hospitals can be flexible with payment. Call the billing department back and tell them your insurance won't be covering the procedure, and so you'll need an itemized bill and you want to arrange a payment plan. Go into the meeting with the payment coordinator with an idea of how much you can afford to pay per month. 3. It is possible the $3000 bill was printed and mailed to you despite being under review. Hospitals don't always stop mailings even while something is being double checked, so on the call with the billing department you should ask about the status of the review you requested. 4. Some drug manufacturers have assistance programs if you were treated with their product. Get started here: https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/medical_care/programs.html | 0 | 4,887 | 4.25 |
y6giyk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | My insurance company misinformed me. I have a transcript of the conversation sent by them proving it, but they still won’t help make it right. Needing help/advice with negotiating medical bills TL;DR at the bottom So, I was bit by a stray cat, and my MD recommended I get the rabies pep course. I'm a single dude, living on my own, and I chatted with my insurance to see if they would cover it. The rep said they would "cover it 100%." Turns out, that was a bald face lie. I have a transcript of the conversation emailed to me FROM Humana, but now I have to front over $3,000 out of pocket. I tried to explain that to Humana, but they said they weren't able to do anything and to talk to the provider (UofL Health - STS Mary and Elizabeth Hospital). So, I talked to the UofL Health's billing department, and they did a check on all the codes just to make sure things were cool. I guess they were, because I just got the bill in the mail for 3.2k. I checked their medical debt forgiveness policy, and I make just barely above the 300% poverty line where they forgive your bills completely. I don't have 3.2k to my name though. I have never had a bill this large before, and I have no clue what to do. I'm kinda freaking out. I’m 27, and just trying to survive. This whole thing has be back on my anxiety medication and everything. TL;DR My insurance didn't cover something they said they would, and now I need advice on how to get my $3.2k bill reduced to avoid going completely bankrupt. | isp149i | ispcbis | 1,666,026,621 | 1,666,031,093 | 4 | 6 | You likely have no recourse. What a customer service rep says over the phone will never trump your actual insurance policy. It sounds like this WAS covered by your insurance however you hadn’t met your deductible so again, no recourse. | They do cover it, but I'm guessing that you have a deductible, Coinsurance, or copay that needs to be met before they make any payment. What is the $3,200 labeled as? | 0 | 4,472 | 1.5 |
y6giyk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | My insurance company misinformed me. I have a transcript of the conversation sent by them proving it, but they still won’t help make it right. Needing help/advice with negotiating medical bills TL;DR at the bottom So, I was bit by a stray cat, and my MD recommended I get the rabies pep course. I'm a single dude, living on my own, and I chatted with my insurance to see if they would cover it. The rep said they would "cover it 100%." Turns out, that was a bald face lie. I have a transcript of the conversation emailed to me FROM Humana, but now I have to front over $3,000 out of pocket. I tried to explain that to Humana, but they said they weren't able to do anything and to talk to the provider (UofL Health - STS Mary and Elizabeth Hospital). So, I talked to the UofL Health's billing department, and they did a check on all the codes just to make sure things were cool. I guess they were, because I just got the bill in the mail for 3.2k. I checked their medical debt forgiveness policy, and I make just barely above the 300% poverty line where they forgive your bills completely. I don't have 3.2k to my name though. I have never had a bill this large before, and I have no clue what to do. I'm kinda freaking out. I’m 27, and just trying to survive. This whole thing has be back on my anxiety medication and everything. TL;DR My insurance didn't cover something they said they would, and now I need advice on how to get my $3.2k bill reduced to avoid going completely bankrupt. | isr3wcr | israk6j | 1,666,058,615 | 1,666,061,871 | 2 | 3 | What's your deductible and what's your out of pocket max? | Not a lawyer, did billing for 6 years. Did you call and complain or file an actual appeal with your proof? Was the claim denied as patient responsibility or approved and applied to deductible/coinsurance? You should have an EOB available online with that information, and it's important here. If you haven't already filed an appeal, humana should have information on their site that tells you where to file a claim appeal. You may even talk to the billing department for advice and information before you file, like getting a copy of the claim that they sent. You can Google the codes on it to better understand what exactly the claim says. Write a letter explaining why you believe they are wrong for either denying it, or how they found your benefits paid, depending on which one it is. (Denied vs possibly incorrectly applied benefits, both can be appealed) If I remember correctly, humana actually had one of the best sites for researching their coverage policies with a searchable database. Really root around on their site. Print out pertinent information supporting your side, label each item as exhibit a, b, c etc. so you can refer directly to them in the letter. Scan and save everything you send. Send it certified to the claims address. Allow them 30 days from receipt and call their claims department to follow up and obtain the appeals reference number. Take names of everyone you speak to every time and write down when you speak to them so that you can use that if you need to, because you may be able to appeal up to 3 times depending on their policies. The more organized and intelligent you seem, the more likely you'll be able to get them to do what you want if they're going to do it at all - basically make it obvious on paper that you're willing to be a pain in the ass. They'll respond in writing and maybe you'll be able to overturn their decision. Also, if you notify the doctor's billing department, they have to stop trying to collect until the appeal is complete because appealing basically puts it back into adjudication until it's complete. Edited to add, always ask for a reference number for each call to your insurance company! | 0 | 3,256 | 1.5 |
8svb20 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | USA-TN] An r/legaladvice wet dream: neighbor cut down two of my trees. What should I look for in a lawyer? I live in an older neighborhood in a small town an hour away from Nashville. The cost of living in Nashville has shot up, as well as property values, and some people have begun to move into our sleepy little town to get more out of their dollar. A new-ish neighbor is an aspiring country singer, lives in their own world, and seems to have a lot of money. [This crudely drawn map shows the proximity of our two houses. The Future-Johnny-Cash™ recently built a front porch that includes a fireplace, hanging lights, the whole shebang. Johnny's only source of Hurt is that I had two old oak trees that cast his deck in shade during the prime hours (the map isn't aligned properly). He asked me to cut them down before, even offering to pay, but I did not comply. When I returned from vacation last week, I came home to two tree stumps, mashed up grass, and a letter telling me to expect a venmo payment for $2000. I know that trees are well loved around here, but I don't think that this information is common knowledge to all lawyers. What should I bring up when I meet with a legal representative to explore my punitive retribution? | e12mzwl | e12n2lg | 1,529,616,495 | 1,529,616,559 | 185 | 538 | > What should I bring up when I meet with a legal representative to explore my punitive retribution? Nothing more than what you've told us is necessary. However, it might help if you get some estimates for the cost of replacing those trees with the same species *and same sizes* as the ones your neighbor stole. (Your damages aren't necessarily just the value of the timber.) Also, I would call the police. This could plausibly have been a crime beyond trespass, e.g., vandalism or grand larceny. | Tree Owner Rights and Responsibilities Landowners’ tree rights limit nuisance claims and trespass regarding cutting, trimming or removing trees that extend beyond property boundaries, especially abutting easements for streets and utility lines. According to the trespass law, Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-14-405 (2014), others are not allowed to harm a landowner’s trees. Persons cutting, removing or otherwise harming a tree can be liable for double or triple the value of the tree if the trespass is upheld. As in the case of Jack Jones v. Melvin Johnson, Johnson trespassed onto Jones’s property and made several deep chainsaw cuts into a large black walnut tree, killing it. Jones had to pay to have the tree removed, and the court awarded Jones more than five times the amount he had to pay to have it removed. Jones v. Johnson, M2002-01286-COA-R3-CV, LEXIS 423 (Tenn. Ct. App. June 4, 2003). https://extension.tennessee.edu/publications/Documents/SP687.pdf | 0 | 64 | 2.908108 |
8svb20 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | USA-TN] An r/legaladvice wet dream: neighbor cut down two of my trees. What should I look for in a lawyer? I live in an older neighborhood in a small town an hour away from Nashville. The cost of living in Nashville has shot up, as well as property values, and some people have begun to move into our sleepy little town to get more out of their dollar. A new-ish neighbor is an aspiring country singer, lives in their own world, and seems to have a lot of money. [This crudely drawn map shows the proximity of our two houses. The Future-Johnny-Cash™ recently built a front porch that includes a fireplace, hanging lights, the whole shebang. Johnny's only source of Hurt is that I had two old oak trees that cast his deck in shade during the prime hours (the map isn't aligned properly). He asked me to cut them down before, even offering to pay, but I did not comply. When I returned from vacation last week, I came home to two tree stumps, mashed up grass, and a letter telling me to expect a venmo payment for $2000. I know that trees are well loved around here, but I don't think that this information is common knowledge to all lawyers. What should I bring up when I meet with a legal representative to explore my punitive retribution? | e130dlt | e133vho | 1,529,629,513 | 1,529,633,200 | 44 | 45 | I am not a lawyer - I don’t think this has been mentioned yet, but in addition to quotes on the tree value, I would also recommend getting quotes to remove the stumps and restore your yard to an acceptable condition. That is a cost that this neighbor has also forced you to deal with. | Oh MAN I'm looking forward to this update | 0 | 3,687 | 1.022727 |
8svb20 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | USA-TN] An r/legaladvice wet dream: neighbor cut down two of my trees. What should I look for in a lawyer? I live in an older neighborhood in a small town an hour away from Nashville. The cost of living in Nashville has shot up, as well as property values, and some people have begun to move into our sleepy little town to get more out of their dollar. A new-ish neighbor is an aspiring country singer, lives in their own world, and seems to have a lot of money. [This crudely drawn map shows the proximity of our two houses. The Future-Johnny-Cash™ recently built a front porch that includes a fireplace, hanging lights, the whole shebang. Johnny's only source of Hurt is that I had two old oak trees that cast his deck in shade during the prime hours (the map isn't aligned properly). He asked me to cut them down before, even offering to pay, but I did not comply. When I returned from vacation last week, I came home to two tree stumps, mashed up grass, and a letter telling me to expect a venmo payment for $2000. I know that trees are well loved around here, but I don't think that this information is common knowledge to all lawyers. What should I bring up when I meet with a legal representative to explore my punitive retribution? | e1325nj | e133vho | 1,529,631,457 | 1,529,633,200 | 30 | 45 | Before seeking an attorney let the guy know that the value of the trees is much higher than $2000, and that no amount of cash makes up for them being gone. Someone with money who is already willing to shell out might realize they messed up and just pay the real value, or more. | Oh MAN I'm looking forward to this update | 0 | 1,743 | 1.5 |
8svb20 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | USA-TN] An r/legaladvice wet dream: neighbor cut down two of my trees. What should I look for in a lawyer? I live in an older neighborhood in a small town an hour away from Nashville. The cost of living in Nashville has shot up, as well as property values, and some people have begun to move into our sleepy little town to get more out of their dollar. A new-ish neighbor is an aspiring country singer, lives in their own world, and seems to have a lot of money. [This crudely drawn map shows the proximity of our two houses. The Future-Johnny-Cash™ recently built a front porch that includes a fireplace, hanging lights, the whole shebang. Johnny's only source of Hurt is that I had two old oak trees that cast his deck in shade during the prime hours (the map isn't aligned properly). He asked me to cut them down before, even offering to pay, but I did not comply. When I returned from vacation last week, I came home to two tree stumps, mashed up grass, and a letter telling me to expect a venmo payment for $2000. I know that trees are well loved around here, but I don't think that this information is common knowledge to all lawyers. What should I bring up when I meet with a legal representative to explore my punitive retribution? | e13dbqv | e1325nj | 1,529,644,886 | 1,529,631,457 | 41 | 30 | OP - I hope you use whatever you do get to replace the trees - otherwise he gets what he wanted in the first place - even if it does cost him more. Anyone want to speculate if a judge might take into consideration that the neighbor asked first, was denied and did it anyway? | Before seeking an attorney let the guy know that the value of the trees is much higher than $2000, and that no amount of cash makes up for them being gone. Someone with money who is already willing to shell out might realize they messed up and just pay the real value, or more. | 1 | 13,429 | 1.366667 |
saa4ag | legaladvice_train | 0.72 | Large trees fell in our backyard due to a windy night, broke through fences, and hit neighbors' property. We don't have insurance. We had a very gusty windy night, large enough that several powerlines are out in the neighborhood as a result. We had two trees that fell, the winds were powerful enough that it uprooted the whole tree and fell destroying the fence, a large shed, the roof of THREE neighbors. I believe this falls under the act of god since it was due to wind. Here the thing, we don't have insurance in our house as we aren't legally required to (dumb reason yes I know, but it was my fathers choice I didn't have control over) We have no reason to believe this tree was due to neglect as it was an act of god, however, our neighbors and their respective insurance companies may think otherwise. What should our steps be to protect ourselves? Who might be someone that we need to contact regarding assessing liability or damages? Are there tree lawyers? We haven't spoken with the neighbor yet, but will this afternoon. Who exactly is at fault and who pays for what? https://imgur.com/a/RmIYRCy | htsc5sj | htsiftm | 1,642,883,312 | 1,642,885,872 | 8 | 14 | > it was my fathers choice I didn't have control over So who owns the house? If you own the house, how was it not your decision? What will likely happen is the people who suffered a loss will file a claim with their insurance companies, and those companies may try to come after whoever owns your house. | You did not share your location, so all of this might be wrong. Generally if your tree falls onto your neighbors house *their* insurance covers them, and you are not liable (responsible for the damage). If you knew or should have known that the trees were unhealthy or ready to fall because you had not maintained them, you could be liable. It sounds like if the wind uprooted them that they were pretty healthy and you are not liable. Assuming I am correct, the trouble you may run into is this: The neighbors' insurance companies would prefer not to pay, so they might come after you. If you had insurance they would defend you. Since you do not, you will have to defend yourself (I mean, pay to defend yourself, if it comes to it please hire a lawyer). So that'll cost you. TLDR, I hope you are probably not at fault and do not need to pay for any more than cleaning up the portion that fell on your property, but if someone sues you and tries to get you to pay for more than that.... hire legal help. | 0 | 2,560 | 1.75 |
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